Sep 22, 2026 Planning & Zoning 09222026

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I WAS STRUGGLING TOO.

I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU'D SABOTAGE FOR ME.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

UH, SORRY FOR THE LATE START.

UH, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026.

I'M JOHN FEDORKO, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS MEETING AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS HEREBY CALLED BACK TO ORDER AT 6:33 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH.

ALL MEETING, ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE RE RETAINING ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.

INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.

THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER IN THE BACK, AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE, I'LL START WITH MYSELF.

JOHN FEDORKO.

HERE.

KENNETH PRESLEY.

HERE.

MARQUITA NEMO.

HERE.

MICAH LOCK.

LOCKHART.

HERE.

FRANK GONZALEZ.

HERE.

JANIE MENDEZ.

ARI HERE.

MALCOLM CHARI.

TY CHAPMAN HERE.

AND CHERYL ANN SMITH.

HERE, LET LET THE RECORD REFLECT, PLEASE THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR MR. ERY.

UM, AND NOW, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER CHERYL SMITH WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.

AND AFTERWARDS, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL LOCKHART WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAGS.

YOU BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU ONCE AGAIN TO SAY THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE A PART OF THE P AND Z COMMISSIONERS, UH, MEETING.

WE ASK YOUR CHOICE, BLESSINGS ON THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE HERE, AND ALL THOSE PRESENT.

WE ASK, SHARE OUR BLESSINGS ON THE MAYOR, OUR HONORABLE MAYOR, OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR COMMUNITY.

WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR CHOICE, BLESSINGS ON OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON, LORD, BUT YOU KNOW THAT IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE ASK THAT YOU ENSURE THAT WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

ALL THESE THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR SON JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGES OF BELIEF, OUR PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND CONSIDER THE REPUBLIC OVER STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, LIBERTY, JUSTICE, ALL HONOR, SEE, TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER SMITH AND LOCK CARD, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF.

APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

A SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, MS. DOSER, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK? NO, SIR.

AWESOME.

UM, THE NEXT

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ]

THERE IS ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING.

UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, BUT IF THERE IS NO CONVERSATION, CAN I GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR? UH, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC

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AND, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020 SEC 2026.

I'M ASSUMING NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT.

IF SO, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND.

PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THAT MOTION PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, THERE IS ONE

[2. STP-26-07-0016 - Site Plan - 360 Logistics Crossing (City Council District 2). Site Plan to construct a 90,777 sq. ft. distribution warehouse on 5.97 acres. Tracts 3B & 3C, Ezekiel Roland Survey, Abstract No. 1313, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-224, within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 3611 S Hwy 360]

ITEM TWO STP DASH 26 DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 1 6 SITE PLAN 360 LOGISTICS CROSSING THE SITE PLAN FOR DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE AT, UH, 36 11, UH, SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 360.

UM, AND I THINK JUNE, YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT ON THAT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THE ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A SIP PLAN REQUEST.

STP 26 0 7 0 0 1 6, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SIP PLAN APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE.

IT IS LOCATED ON 3 6 1 1 SOUTH HIGHWAY 360.

IT IS THE PROPERTY SHOWN IN YELLOW.

HERE'S THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF, UM, 360 AND GENERALLY NORTH OF THE I 20.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A 90,000 SQUARE FOOT DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE.

THE PROPOSAL MEETS THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO MEETING THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT.

THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO THE REQUIRED SCREENING WALL.

THE SCREENINGS WALLS ARE REQUIRED ON THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, WHICH I'LL COVER MORE IN DETAIL LATER.

HERE ARE THE PROVIDED RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE APPENDIX X REQUIREMENT.

HERE'S ELEVATION 2 360, AND HERE ARE SA UH, SIDE ELEVATIONS.

AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIREMENT TO CONSTRUCT A EIGHT FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO ALLOW NO MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG NORTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.

HERE'S THE, UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS WHAT YOU SEE.

UM, THE RED HEDGE, UH, AREA REPRESENTS THE, UM, TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY EASEMENT.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A SORE LINE THAT RUNS ACROSS THE PROPERTY.

THEREFORE, THEY'RE, UH, REQUESTING THAT EASEMENT TO BE PRESERVED SO THAT, UM, THEY CAN ACCESS IT IF THEY EVER NEED TO GO MAINTAIN IT OR FIX THE PROBLEMS, UM, PER ZONING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABUTTING, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH AND EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.

THEY ARE, UH, SUBJECT TO PROVIDING A FOOT MASON SCREENING WALL HERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

AND TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE TRA EASEMENT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THIS PROJECT BE ALLOWED TO CONSTRUCT, UH, CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT THE SCREENING WALL.

THE NEAREST POINT TO THE NEARBY RESIDENT IS ABOUT 330 FEET.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, 30 FOOT SHORT OF A HUNDRED FOOT LONG, UH, FOOTBALL FIELD.

THE TYPICALLY A HUNDRED YARD IS ABOUT 360 FEET.

SO THERE ARE, THAT DISTANCE IS PROVIDED BETWEEN THE PRO PROPOSED PROJECT AND THE NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

SHOULD THE PNZ UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT RECOMMENDS THAT A NOISE STUDY BE APPROVED BY PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BEFORE THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.

AND, UM, NUMBER TWO, A DRAINAGE STUDY OR A DETENTION SHALL BE PROVIDED TO CONFIRM THERE IS NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, PER, UH, AS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT IN DURING THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW.

THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND READY TO DO THEIR OWN PRESENTATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU, JUNE.

MM-HMM .

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? OKAY.

NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JULIE.

I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE SOME WE DO, SIR.

UM, BRYCE NER WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING, C COMMISSIONERS, BRYCE HAFFNER FROM ADDRESS, UH, 83 33 DOUGLAS AVENUE, SUITE 1550 IN DALLAS.

UH, I'M A PARTNER OF IDER CREEK DEVELOPMENT.

WE ARE A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY BASED OUTTA DALLAS.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

TODAY WE HAVE A PROJECT, A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION MCKINNEY, OFF HIGHWAY 1 21.

WE JUST COMPLETED A PROJECT IN LEWISVILLE, A TWO BUILDING PROJECT WHERE WE REDEVELOPED A MOVIE THEATER INTO A 38,000 SQUARE

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WE HAVE, UM, 165,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UH, THAT JUST DELIVERED IN NORTH FORT WORTH AS WELL.

AND ANOTHER SITE IN WEST FORT WORTH.

OUR, UM, STRATEGY IS TO TARGET LAND SITES THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED BY THE CITY TO BE INDUSTRIAL.

UH, WE DON'T COME IN CITIES TO TRY AND REZONE IT, SO WE LOOK FOR SITES THAT ALLOW FOR BUYRIGHT DEVELOPMENTS ON THE INDUSTRIAL SITE.

UM, GRAND PRAIRIE IS THE CENTER OF THE METROPLEX, HAS BEEN SINCE I STARTED THE INDUSTRY 15 YEARS AGO.

ONE OF THE GOLD STANDARDS FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE LABOR PROXIMITY, UH, TO ROOFTOP GROWTH IN MIDLOTHIAN AND MANSFIELD, DFW AIRPORT, YOU NAME IT.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF A HUB, UH, FOR INDUSTRIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND ACTIVITY.

SO WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THIS SITE ON AN OFF MARKET BASIS, WE WERE VERY EXCITED.

SO, SIX ACRES, UH, ZONED PD 2000, UH, 224, UH, WHICH WAS ZONED IN 1997.

THERE WAS A CONDEMNATION IN 2000, UH, 14 TO DO THE SANUR SEWER, UH, MAINE.

WITH THE WAY THE MARKET IS PROCEEDED TODAY WITH A RENT STA WITH RENT GROWTH, UH, THE PROJECT IS FINALLY VIABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND IN A WAY TO, TO JUSTIFY THE LAND PRICE, WE ARE PAYING THE RETURNS REQUESTED BY OUR, UH, INVESTORS, UH, TO DEVELOP, UH, THIS TYPE OF, OF PROPERTY.

SO WE PUT TOGETHER JUST A PRESENTATION TO KIND OF SHARE, UM, THE BUFFER THAT WE HAVE NATURALLY GIVEN, UH, BEEN GIVEN BY GOD AND, UH, JUST THE TOPOGRAPHY.

SO THERE'S A FLOOD FEMA FLOODPLAIN WHERE IT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED EVER.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SO THIS IS THE, THE AREA, UH, THE SITE PICTURES.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS LOOKING OUT TO 360, AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS LOOKING TO THE PROPERTY TOWARDS THE, THE EAST, TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, LOTS.

UM, THIS IS OUR, OUR PLANNED BUILDING.

UM, FRONT PARK, REAR LOAD PARKING IN THE FRONT, HIGH VISIBILITY, UH, FREEWAY FRONTAGE.

SO WE'VE DRESSED UP THE, THE ENTRYWAYS.

UM, AS PART OF OUR VARIANCE REQUEST TO REMOVE THE EIGHT FOOT MASON WALL, WE HAVE UPGRADED THE, UH, FRONT FACING FACADE TO HAVE MORE CANOPIES, HAVE MORE MASONRY BRICK, AND ALSO MORE TEXTURED, MORE, UH, FORM LINER BRICKS.

WE HAVE DRESSED UP THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS KIND OF A, IF WE RECEIVE THE VARIANCE, WE'LL DRESS UP THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING REGARDLESS.

WE WILL DO IT BECAUSE FROM A MANY STANDPOINT, FROM TENANTS, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE DO HAVE A SCREEN WALL RIGHT HERE BY THE RAMP ON THE NORTH END.

THAT'S ABOUT 10 TO 12 FEET.

SO THERE IS ALREADY A SHIELD FROM THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY FROM TRUCK ACTIVITY.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TRUCKS HERE ARE SMALLER.

IT'S A SMALLER BUILDING.

I, I KNOW THE WORD DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE IS BEING USED BECAUSE OF THE ZONING, BUT THIS IS MORE YOUR LOCAL, UH, DISTRIBUTOR THAT MAYBE HAS MORE BOX TRUCKS, BOBTAILS, MAYBE AN OFFICE SHOWROOM COMPONENT TO IT, MAYBE A LIGHT MANUFACTURER.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE HEAVY DISTRIBUTION WITH BIG 55 FOOT TRAILERS DRIVING ON PROPERTY.

OR, UH, ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME, BUT NOT TOO MANY.

SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE PUT TOGETHER OVERLAYING THE, THE FLOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS THREE 30 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST POINT.

I WON'T, UM, ARGUE THAT, BUT I JUST WANNA SHOW, SHOW YOU THE CREEK.

SO THERE IS ROUGHLY A 22 FOOT FALL FROM OUR PROPERTY DOWN TO THE CREEK.

SO I KNOW THERE WAS A, A CONCERN, UM, IN THE BRIEF MEETING ABOUT POTENTIALLY NEIGHBORS OR KIDS COMING TO OUR PROPERTY.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO CRAWL, GO DOWN 22 FEET PAST THE CREEK AND THEN KIND OF CLIMB UP TO OUR END.

SO I THINK ALREADY THERE'S A BARRIER TO PREVENT THAT FROM, FROM HAPPENING.

UM, THE, THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION AS DO WE HAVE A PICTURE IN THE NORTH END.

SO THIS IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER, SORRY, OF OUR PROPERTY, WHERE YOU ALREADY SEE A LOT OF TREES AND A NATURAL BUFFER THAT WILL NOT BE REMOVED.

UM, THIS IS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, UH, OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE TREES WILL NOT BE REMOVED.

UM, THESE PICTURES I WALKED INSIDE THAT EASTERN BUFFER, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SLOPE THAT THE SLOPE BEGINNING TO OCCUR.

THIS IS 60 FEET IN TO THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

YOU CAN SEE DENSELY POPULATED, UM, TREES AND AREA.

THIS IS LOOKING OUT EAST TOWARDS THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

AND RIGHT HERE IS KIND OF WHERE THE CREEK STARTS.

SO EX EXTREME AMOUNT OF DENSE VEGETATION THAT WILL NEVER BE REMOVED, UM, BY US.

THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN AT THE PARHAM DRIVE, CUL-DE-SAC.

I WENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE JUST TO SHOW THAT VISIBILITY WISE FROM THE BUILDING, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE US.

THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF, UM, DENSE POPULATED TREES.

AND THEN ALSO, THIS IS FROM DAISY LANE.

CUL-DE-SAC SHOWS A LOT OF VEGETATION AND KIND OF HARD TO, TO GET IN THERE.

UM, THIS IS

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SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE UPGRADED THE, THE, THE FRONT FACADE TO HAVE WINDOWS AT THE TOP, YOU KNOW, EXTERIOR CANOPY.

WE HAVE THIS FORM LINER AND TEXTURE TO MAKE IT A FORM MORE APPEALING.

UM, YOU HAVE THE, THE CORNICES AND THE PARAPET AT THE TOP, MAKING IT MORE OF LIKE A RETAIL, LIKE BUILDING VERSUS TRADITIONAL INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.

UM, AND THIS IS A DRESSED UP LINING AS WELL.

WE'VE ALSO DRESSED UP THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING VERSUS IT JUST BEING A, A METAL, UM, FIRE DOOR.

WE'VE DRESSED UP WITH GLASS, UH, CANOPIES AND BRICK.

UM, SO HERE'S THE SANTO SEWER LINE.

SO THE BLUE LINE THAT YOU SEE IS OUR PROPERTY LINE, AND THE RED LINE IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE EASEMENT, UH, GOES.

SO IT DOES FALL ONTO THE CITY'S PROPERTY.

THE EASEMENT PREVENTS US FROM BUILDING ANY PERMANENT STRUCTURES, BUILDINGS, TOWERS, BUT ALSO FOOTINGS.

SO IF WE WERE TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, THOSE FOOTINGS WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRA EASEMENT, WHICH AT THIS MOMENT, THEY HAVE NOT APPROVED OUR ABILITY TO BUILD THAT.

UH, BUT WITH THE NATURAL BUFFER, UM, WE THINK WE PROVIDE THE NECESSARY PROTECTIONS FOR THE RESIDENCES FROM A NOISE PERSPECTIVE.

UM, AND, UH, VISUAL PERSPECTIVE.

UM, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR NOISE STUDY.

THE CITY HAS REVIEWED IT.

THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS.

WE DO MEET THE CURRENT NOISE DECIBEL REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE'RE 300 FEET AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES.

THERE'S ALSO A RESTRICTION OF, OF BUSINESS HOURS.

THIS FACILITY WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO OPERATE BETWEEN 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM UM, DURING THE WEEK.

UH, IT MIGHT BE WEEKENDS.

I DON'T FORESEE OUR TENANTS USING ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A RESTRICTION OF HOURS.

YOU CAN ONLY OPERATE BETWEEN 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM ON THE DRAINAGE SIDE, WE'VE ALREADY HAD FEED FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY STAFF, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE DO NOT HARM THE LOCAL, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS OR DOWNSTREAM POPULATIONS.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS AND GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UM, DOES ANYONE, I, I FORGOT YOUR LAST NAME, SIR.

UH, BRYCE HAFFNER.

HAF HANER.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HAFNER? UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I REALLY, IT PUTS MORE LIGHT INTO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, AND I SEE THE BUFFER THERE, BUT MY CONCERN WAS THAT WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING? ARE YOU GONNA HAVE, UH, THE LIGHTING, THE LI THERE WILL BE WALL PACKS ON THE BUILDING AND PER CODE, THEY CAN ONLY GO OUT PROBABLY 50 OR 60 FEET OFF THE BUILDING.

MM-HMM .

SO THE TREES THEMSELVES WILL SHIELD ANY LIGHTING FROM THE PERIPHERAL.

MM-HMM .

THERE WILL BE LIGHTING FACING, UM, 6 35, UH, 360, BUT ON THE EAST END, THERE WILL BE NO LIGHTING THAT SHOULD SHED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ALSO, WITH REGARD TO, YOU SAID, UH, DURING THE WEEK UP TILL 10:00 PM THAT'S STILL LATE FOR HOMEOWNERS.

UM, I'M ASSUMING THERE WON'T BE A LOT OF NOISE FROM THE TRUCKS AND THE UP AND DOWN WITH THE, UH, MOVING MATERIALS.

NO, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

YOU KNOW, UH, MOST OPERATIONS CLOSED BEFORE 10:00 AM UH, 10:00 PM SORRY, I CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

WELL, THE ONLY REASON I SAID, 'CAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME IN THE EVENING, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE DINNER AND THE NOISE, HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE NOISE.

THAT WOULD BE A DISTRACTION FROM THEM HAVING A, A NICE EVENING.

SO THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED FOR THAT.

YEAH.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

MM-HMM.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES OF THIS NATURE, THIS SIZE? UH, BACKED UP BY, UH, THE, UM, THIS E AN EASEMENT LIKE THIS ANYWHERE? UH, WE, NOT AN, NOT AN EASEMENT THAT HAS A SANITARY SEWER LINE.

WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY, TWO BUILDINGS IN LEWISVILLE THAT DO BACKUP, THAT DOES BACK UP TO MULTIFAMILY, WHERE WE HAVE A, A NATURAL BUFFER AS WELL WHERE NO SCREEN WALL WAS REQUIRED IN LEWISVILLE.

AND THOSE ARE TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS, A 37,000 SQUARE OF BUILDING AND A 68 WHERE THERE, THAT'S MORE DAYTIME TRAFFIC.

CONTRACTORS COMING IN TO PICK UP WOOD FLOORING FROM THE SMALLER BUILDING.

THE 68,000 SQUARE OF BUILDING IS STILL VACANT.

WE HAVE ACTIVITY ON THAT, BUT LEWISVILLE DOES NOT HAVE A RESTRICTIVE, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION LIKE GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO THERE THEY COULD GO 24 HOURS A DAY.

UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BRYCE.

UM, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING SO THOROUGH, YOU KNOW, FOR ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND SHOWING US VISUALS THAT WE COULD REALLY, UM, SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS ABOUT THE PROPOSED, UH, RETAINING WALL.

I SEE, ACCORDING TO THE PLANS, IT LOOKS TO ME AS IF IT'S THE CORNER AND THEN IT'S GOING UP.

IS IT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY? UH, THE RETAINING WALL WILL BE ON THE CITY'S LAND, YES.

IT'S ABOUT A TWO TO THREE FOOT RETAINING WALL THAT WE HAVE, UM, PRESENTED TO THE CITY.

WE'VE PROVIDED THEM THE, UM, S SERV, UH, SURVEY, LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

AND THAT I, I THINK WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF EITHER PNZ OR CITY

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OKAY.

AND IT'S THE EXTENT OF THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST CORRECT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE, MR. HAVNER? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, THAT YOU, YOU GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IF I LOOK AT THIS MAP THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE RIGHT NOW, THAT IF THERE WAS A, A FENCE THAT WAS PUT UP INSIDE THE TRA EASEMENT, IT'S REALLY NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR EASEMENT.

RIGHT? YOU WOULD AGREE? IT'S KIND OF ON THE PERIMETER? UH, WELL, IT'S IN THE EASEMENT, YES.

BUT IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EASEMENT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO I ALSO COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I AM 60 YEARS OLD, THAT CREEK IS A BARRIER.

BUT IF I'M AN EIGHT TO 12-YEAR-OLD BOY, THAT CREEK IS A PLACE OF, I WON A 22 FOOT DROP AND A 22 FOOT CLIMB IN A CREEK.

IF MY MOM AND DAD SAID GO PLAY OUTSIDE, AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY WHERE OUTSIDE THAT CREEK IS ON, THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

AND COMMISSIONER SMITH IN THE MEETING BEFORE.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE A PLACE THAT COULD BE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY INCLUDED WITH NO FENCE BETWEEN A CREEK NEXT TO HUNDREDS OF HOUSES WITH KIDS.

THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR ASK.

UH, I GUESS SO, BUT CAN YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I LOVE THE PROJECT.

I JUST THINK, I DON'T THINK THE TRA IS GONNA BE SO PIGHEADED TO SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T PUT AN, LET'S GO WITH THE CHEAPEST FENCE YOU CAN AN IRON RAILING.

I WOULD EVEN GO WITH A CHAIN LINK IF THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD GET IN TROUBLE FOR THAT, BUT I'M JUST, I'M NOT COMPLETELY CONVINCED THAT THAT CREEK IS A BARRIER TO PEOPLE WHOSE MINDS ARE NOT COMPLETELY DEVELOPED JUST YET.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE ARE NOT THE TRA CONTROLS THE NARRATIVE WHEN IT COMES WITHIN THE EASEMENT.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ON THE EDGE, WE ARE, WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR, SAY IN THE EASEMENT.

SO IF WE WERE TO PUT A WROUGHT IRON FENCE OR A CHAIN LINK FENCE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME AND GET CITY APPROVAL TO USE THEIR, THE CITY OWNED LAND TO BE ABLE TO PUT A FENCE.

PAUSE, MS. DOZIER, IS THAT TRUE OR DOES HE JUST PUT THE FENCE UP AT HIS WRIST THAT THE, IF THE TRA WANTS TO TEAR IT DOWN, HE HAS TO REPLACE IT AT HIS COST? NO, WHAT HE SAID IS TRUE.

UM, I READ IT IN THE BRIEFING.

UM, THE EASEMENT WAS A CONDEMNATION EASEMENT FROM TRA MM-HMM .

AND AS PART, UH, THERE WAS AN AGREED JUDGMENT THAT WAS ENTERED BETWEEN THE PARTIES TRA AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THAT EASEMENT SAYS THAT TRA HAS SOLE DISCRETION ON DETERMINING WHAT CAN GO IN THERE.

AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, IN BEING WHAT GOES IN THEIR EASEMENT AREA.

AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, THE ABILITY TO RESTRICT RESERVOIRS, BUILDINGS, OR OTHER STRUCTURES, DRILLING AND MINING EQUIPMENT OR TREES.

SO THAT BEING SAID, ANY KIND OF, AS HE STATED FOOTING, ANY KIND OF FENCING WALLS WOULD BE FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF OTHER STRUCTURES.

UM, THIS BEING A JUDGMENT FROM A COURT, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THE OWNER COULD FACE, UH, CON UH, FACE CONTEMPT FROM THE COURT, OF COURSE FOR VIOLATING AN AGREED JUDGMENT.

UM, HE'S CORRECTED THAT IF, IF THE P AND Z WERE TO REQUIRE, UH, THE BUILDING OF ANY KIND OF FENCE WALL, UM, THEN THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE BUILT IN THE CITY PROPERTY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE, GIVE THEM AN ACCESS EASEMENT PROBABLY TO DO THAT.

AND AREN'T YOU DOING THAT OTHERWISE THOUGH, FOR THE RETAINING WALL? WE'RE DOING THAT FOR THE RETAINING WALL, YES.

SO IS IT CRAZY RASHAD TO THINK OF A RETAINING WALL WITH SOME SORT OF BARRIER OR, I MEAN, I MIGHT BE OVERSTATING THE CASE, BUT I, I JUST, I DON'T THINK FOR KIDS A A 22 FOOT DROP TO A CREEK IS A, IS A BARRIER.

I THINK IF THERE'S AN OP, THERE COULDN'T BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A WALL ON TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL.

NOW THERE'S ENGINEERING INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND OUR ENGINEERING TEAM WOULD NEED TO REVIEW THAT.

SO THAT COULD BE AN ASK, UM, IF THEY'VE ALREADY WORK, IF THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH ENGINEERING TO PUT THE RETAINING WALL, YOU CAN PUT THAT AS A POTENTIAL CONDITION OR, UH, EXCEPTION TO WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED AS THE, THE WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND.

JUST, JUST ON THE, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE.

JUST ON THE RETAINING WALL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I DUNNO.

I'M JUST, I'M THROWING THAT OUT TO Y'ALL 'CAUSE I JUST, IT STRUCK ME.

YEAH.

WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE COMMISSIONER.

YOU, I, UM, I, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT WAS MY INITIAL THOUGHT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE MURPHY'S LAW IS MURPHY'S LAW AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, CHILDREN, THEY DON'T HAVE, AND THEN IT'S A, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE IN MY OPINION.

IT'S STILL A SAFETY ISSUE.

THEY HAVE ALL THAT

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OR IT COULD BE ANYBODY WANNA DO SOMETHING MALICIOUS? WE WOULD NEVER KNOW.

I MEAN, IT COULD BE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT.

BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M AT A LOSS AND JUST OPENING IT UP.

BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD LET MR. HAFFNER SIT DOWN.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HAFFNER? OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT.

I AM IN SUPPORT.

I JUST, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND THAT SIDE.

A CARD FROM DAVID MORALES WHO'S IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SIR? NOTHING? NO.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A CARD FROM RANDY BAIRD, UM, WHO WISHES TO NOTE HIS SUPPORT.

HE'S AVAILABLE TO SPEAK IF, IF NEEDED.

I'M GOOD, UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS? NO.

ARE YOU A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON PUTTING FENCES ON RETAINER WALLS? I WISH I WAS OKAY ON THAT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN.

I BELIEVE HE'S THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT, RIGHT? ARCHITECT? CORRECT.

DAVID IS THERE.

AH, OKAY.

.

OKAY.

SO ANYWAY, THAT IS ALL THE CARTS WE HAVE FOR THIS ITEM.

WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING, RASHAD? I WAS LOOKING BACK AT OUR, UH, STAFF ENGINEER WHO'S HERE.

UH, BUT I, I WOULD SAY SINCE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT PER THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY ARE ASKING EXEMPTION FROM THE, THE SCREENING WALL, YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL IF Y'ALL CHOOSE TO, AND SAY THAT WITH THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S REQUIRED WITH THIS SITE, THAT A WALL SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, A FENCE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH THAT.

AND, AND FORWARD THAT ON TO, TO COUNCIL.

PUT THAT ONTO COUNCIL? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT CAN SEE IF THEY CAN GET THAT ADDRESSED OR NOT.

OKAY.

WHAT DISTRICT WAS THIS IN? I APOLOGIZE, MALCOLM.

OH, THAT'S MALCOLM.

SO WHO'S GONNA TAKE MALCOLM'S PLACE? SO FRANK, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? YES, I WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

UM, SO HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL IS WHERE YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT HE SHOULD PUT A RETAINING WALL THERE.

I THINK IF, IF YOU LOOK AT JUNE.

OH, JUNE, YEAH.

STAY RIGHT THERE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JUNE, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A RETAINING WALL.

YOU SEE THAT RED THING STRIP THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH? YOU SEE THE RED STRIP THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH? YES.

SO BASED ON THEIR GRAPHIC, THE RETAINING WALL LOCATION WILL BE OUTSIDE THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY HERE.

THEY'RE BUILDING IT ON CITY PROPERTY, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

AND WE'RE GIVING THEM AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO BUILD IT AND MAINTAIN IT ON CITY PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S CREEK.

SO WE JUST DON'T WANT THINGS TO START ERODING AND BLOCK THE FLOODWAY WAY.

AND SO THAT, THAT RETAINING WALL WOULD BE, TO ME, WOULD BE THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU COULD THINK ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING A, A FENCE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE ANYWAY, DOING THEIR RETAINING WALL BUSINESS.

MM-HMM.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND TO SPECIFY ALSO THEIR, THEIR REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE TO NOT REQUIRE THE RETAINING WALL ON THE NORTHERN END AND THE EASTERN END OF THE PROPERTY.

WHILE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS RASHAD SAID, MAKE IT A, A CONDITION THAT THEY ATTEMPT TO BUILD A, A WALL ON THE EAST SIDE.

THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO A WALL ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE THE WALL WOULDN'T ENCROACH ON THE EASEMENT.

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THAT WAY, GIVEN HOW THE EASEMENT KIND OF CROSSES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT ON THAT ONE.

I AGREE.

HOW DO THEY, BUT IF WE'RE, IF WE HAVE FEARS OF EROSION, HOW ARE THEY ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO NOT BUILD ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EROSION ISSUE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

NO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO IT'S JUST ON THE EAST SIDE? YEAH.

YES.

YEAH, NO, IF WE DID IT, IT WOULD, UH, WELL, JANIE, I'M SORRY.

YOU, YOU, YOU HAD THE FLOOR.

YOU WERE TALKING.

GO AHEAD.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, AS A RESIDENT, WHEN I SAW THE PICTURES THAT HE WAS SHOWING, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A WALL WALL, LIKE I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT A FENCE OR FENCE, A BARRIER SOMETHING, A WROUGHT IRON FENCE.

SIX, SIX FOOT WALL, SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON.

UM, I MEAN, WHEN JUST LOOKING AT HIS PICTURES FROM THE VEGETATION, I GUESS I LIKE TO KEEP AS MUCH NATURE AS POSSIBLE.

AND IT'S A JUSTIFIED THING.

I, THIS IS ONLY, I MEAN, DON'T LIVE, THERE IS SOME OF THE IDEA, IDEA OF KIDS GOING THERE, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT IS, IT'S, HE'S GOT A BEAUTIFUL A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE THAT'S NEVER GONNA GET BUILT IN.

YEAH.

AND, AND I WOULD AS A RESIDENT, I MEAN, LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

CORRECT.

AND TO THAT POINT, IF I'M A KID AND I'M IN THE EIGHTIES, I WOULD, I WOULD GO AROUND THE WALL, YOU

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SO IT WON'T COMPLETELY BLOCK EVERYTHING.

BUT I, I GET THE REASONING AND THE PURPOSE FROM IT FOR IT, UNFORTUNATELY.

COMPLETELY BLOCKING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH THAT JUDGMENT.

EXACTLY.

EXACTLY.

SO I WOULD JUST CONSIDER THAT, UH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO BE, UM, JUST BE SLIGHT CAREFUL.

'CAUSE THEY KIDS HAVE ACCESS TO IT NOW, AM I CORRECT? THAT'S WE DO.

YEAH.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

IT'S A FIELD.

NO, IT'S A CREEK.

YEAH.

BUT ONCE YOU GET OVER, ONCE YOU GO DOWN THE CREEK AND NOT THE CREEK, THEN IT'S JUST A FIELD UNTIL YOU GET TO 360.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING LOST AT.

WHERE ARE WE CONCERNED WITH THE KIDS? BECAUSE I'M LIKE, THE KIDS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT NOW.

MM-HMM .

AND YOU WANNA PUT A WALL AND BLOCK THAT AXIS.

YEAH.

BUT THERE'LL BE SOMETHING, THERE'LL BE A CONSTRUCTED WAREHOUSE THERE, AND KIDS ARE GONNA SAY, WHAT'S IN THE DUMPSTER? WHAT'S, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, AFTER HOURS, I JUST, MAYBE I WAS A LESS WELL-BEHAVED KID THAN YOU WERE MR. PRESLEY.

YEAH.

YEAH, THEY DO.

IT'LL BE A DETERRENT, RIGHT? YEAH.

NOW YOU, WHICH I MEAN, YEAH, COMMISSIONER, I, I'M JUST IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THAT.

I, I BELIEVE WHATEVER, WHATEVER BARRIERS WE CAN PUT UP, EVEN JUST MINIMAL IS BETTER THAN NOTHING BECAUSE OF COURSE, NO, NOTHING WAS THERE BEFORE, BUT NOW THERE WILL BE.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M OLD SCHOOL TOO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE PROBABLY GONE AND TRY AND GET IN THERE MYSELF, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST RASHAD SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

RASHAD DESIREE'S A GOOD POINT.

I HAVE NO COUNTER TO IT, WHICH IS THERE'S NOT, YOU CANNOT CROSS THE EASEMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO THIS IS A PARTIAL FENCE, AND INSTEAD OF DOING A SIX FOOT CLIMB, YOU MIGHT JUST DO A 200 FOOT WALK.

SO, I, I'M NOT SAYING, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A, THE PROJECT IS NICE.

IT'S ON 360 MM-HMM .

IT'S ACTUALLY AWESOME FOR THE ADULTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IT IS SEPARATED BY A BIG CREEK WITH THESE BIG, TALL TREES.

THAT'S ALMOST IDEAL.

DID YOU TELL THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS WALL? I MEAN, NOT THAT IT'S, IT'S BAD, BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M KIND OF A BIG, UH, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS JUST THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE FOUNDATION AND THE PARKING LOT IN THE REAR.

SO NOT A, SO IT'S NOT A WALL THAT'S GONNA BE UP, IT'S GONNA BE DOWN IN THE CREEK AREA.

TWO OR THREE FEET TALL YOU GUYS SAID.

RIGHT? THREE FEET.

I'M NOT CERTAIN.

NOT I WOULD, YEAH.

THREE FEET.

RIGHT.

ENGINEERING.

BECAUSE THE WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU START BUILDING AND THE PAVEMENT, WHEN IT RAINS, WHERE'S THE WATER? THE WATER.

IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

IS THAT PART OF IT? THIS? YES.

BUT THIS IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL EROSION AND ASSURE THAT THE BUILDING IS ON FIRM FOUNDATION.

RIGHT.

AND PLANTING.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE MEAN, THE REASONING FOR THE RETAINING WALL TO CREATE A, A FLAT SITE.

UH, IT'S NOT A WALL.

MM-HMM .

AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO, UM, AFFECT THE FLOW.

AND IF SO, ENGINEERING WILL ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT, AFFECT FLOW OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, UPSTREAM OR DOWNSTREAM.

I, I THINK RASHAD, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT.

THE, THE POINT OF CLARITY NEEDS TO BE WHAT THE RETAINING WALL DOES AND WHAT A FENCE DOES.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION IS COMING FROM.

MM-HMM .

SO YOU NEED TO CONTINUE IN THE SAME VEIN THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING IN RIGHT NOW, SOIL EROSION VERSUS BLOCKING SOMEONE IN OR BLOCKING A VIEW OR BLOCKING SOMEONE OUT.

EXACTLY.

NOT A, NOT A BIG CEMENT WALL.

RIGHT.

OR MASONRY WALL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOLDING SOIL AT THREE FEET.

SO YOU THINK YARD STICK AND THAT'S IT.

CORRECT.

OPPOSED TO WITH THE PRETTY BRICKS.

HOPEFULLY PRETTY BRICKS ARE NICE.

.

UM, AND, AND THEN OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, US SEEING THIS EIGHT FOOT STRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA BLOCK EVERYBODY IN.

I THINK THAT'S THE CLARITY IS THAT, IS BLOCK, I DON'T ANYBODY ASKED FOR EIGHT FOOT STRUCTURE.

IT WAS YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

JUST SOMETHING IT SAYS AS A DETERRENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHILDREN TO CLIMB OVER.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY ONLY THING.

BUT IT'S PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENT TO BUILD IT, NOT TO BUILD ON THE SITE.

AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT.

IT WAS JUST THE NORTH SIDE, LIKE YOU SAID.

CORRECT.

THE SCREENING WALL, WHICH WOULD BE ABOVE GROUND ELEVATION, THE RETAINING WALL WOULD MAINTAIN THE FOUNDATION AND BELOW.

SO THIS ISN'T BLOCKING THE VIEW.

NOW, OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINI WALL, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BLOCK A VIEW.

WHAT Y'ALL WERE ASKING FOR POTENTIALLY WOULD BLOCK OR SCREEN THE SITE.

BUT AS WE SEE FROM THE PICTURES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED, IT'S HEAVILY WOODED.

AND SO I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD DE, IT WOULD HELP SCREEN.

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FRANK, YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION.

I, I'VE JUST, I JUST RAISED A CONCERN.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M RIGHT OR WRONG, I JUST, IT'S, IT'S A CON CONCERN FOR US TO TALK ABOUT.

YES, I'M FINE EITHER WAY.

OKAY.

UM, EVERYBODY GOOD? ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE TO A CLOSE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, SDP DASH 26 7 DASH ZERO 16.

I PLAN AND APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, THE ITEM PER SE FOR DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, PLUS ADDING AN ALTERNATIVE SCREENING, UH, ON THE EAST, ON THE EAST SIDE OF A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

SUBJECT TO ENGINEERING.

SUBJECT TO ENGINEERING.

YES.

AND DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO PUT THAT IN THERE? I I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION OF YOUR MOTION, FRANK.

YES.

PUT IT IN THERE, OR AS JULIE SAID, MAYBE MAKE IT A, A SUGGESTION TO COUNSEL TO CONSIDER THAT I SAID IT THE SAME THING.

I'M ASKING IT TO BE AT IT.

OKAY.

SAME THING WITH THE RECORD RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

FAIR TO BE CONSIDERED.

ALRIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WITH A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, UH, FOR ITEM TWO, UH, WITH THE, UM, EXTRA CONSIDERATION THAT MR. GONZALEZ SUGGESTED.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO.

IF, IF NOT, THEN CAN I HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS OF ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT? UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.

PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT, UH, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.

UM, THERE'S ONE

[3. SUP-26-08-0020 - Specific Use Permit - Prose and Pours Bookstore (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit to allow the on-premise sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages as an accessory use for a bookstore on 0.22 acres. Lot 1, Block 21, Original Town of Grand Prairie Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Central Area (CA) District, and addressed as 112 N. Center Street]

THE SUP FOR THE PROS AND POS BOOKSTORE TO ALLOW THE ON-PREMISE SALE, CONSUMPTION, SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS AN ACCESSORY USE FOR A BOOKSTORE AT 1 1 2 NORTH CENTER STREET STAFF.

PLEASE PRESENT ITEM THREE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CHAIR.

I'LL JUST GET RIGHT TO IT.

SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE ON-PREMISE SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS AN ACCESSORY USE FOR A BOOKSTORE, AS YOU NOTED, LOCATED AT 1 1 2 NORTH CENTER STREET.

AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONE CENTRAL AREA DISTRICT.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I'M GONNA USE THE MOUSE.

HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW.

YOU CAN SEE IMMEDIATELY.

ADJACENT TO THE NORTH IS A CHURCH AND CHURCH RELATED STRUCTURES TO THE WEST.

WE HAVE CHURCH RELATED STRUCTURES AND PARKING.

UM, TO THE EAST WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAIL WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CHURCH USE.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES ALONG WEST MAIN HERE IS A STREET VIEW SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA READ THE ENTIRE THING, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL DID IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PORTIONS OF OUR CODE TO ALLOW ON-PREMISE SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS AN ACCESSORY USE FOR MUSEUM, ART, GALLERY AND BOOKSTORE USES WITHIN THE CENTRAL AREA AND PD 4 43, WITH, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THE CENTRAL AREA BY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

IT ALSO AMENDED PORTIONS OF ARTICLE 30, WHICH IS DEFINITIONS TO DEFINE MUSEUM ART, GALLERY BOOKSTORE, AND MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE.

SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO OPERATE A RETAIL BOOKSTORE AND CAFE WITH THE SALE AND ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE EXISTING TWO-STORY MASONIC LODGE.

UM, THE BOOKSTORE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 3,700 SQUARE FEET RETAIL BOOKSTORE, CAFE GATHERING SPACE.

AND THE ALCOHOL SERVICE IS INTENDED TO COMPLIMENT THE RETAIL CAFE AND GATHERING FUNCTIONS RATHER THAN SERVING AS THE PRIMARY COMPONENT OF THE USE.

INITIALLY, THE APPLICANT ANTICIPATES EMPLOYING TWO, TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.

IN ADDITION, THE OWNER WHO IS ALSO THE APPLICANT WILL WORK THERE FULL-TIME.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 11:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SATURDAY, 10:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SUNDAY, 1:00 PM TO SIX P PM AND OCCASIONAL EXTENDED HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE ONE HOUR, ONE HOUR.

FOLLOWING THE PERFORMANCE

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THAT MAY INCLUDE AUTHOR READINGS, BOOK SIGNINGS, BOOK CLUBS, GAME AND CRAFT NIGHTS, CHILDREN'S STORY TIMES, WORKSHOPS, AND COMMUNITY GATHERINGS.

A CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ALCOHOL VARIANCE IS REQUIRED, UH, PER THE UDC.

UH, IT UDC PROHIBITS THE SALE AND ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WITHIN 300 FEET OF CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THE ALCOHOL VARIANCE REQUEST AND THAT REQUEST IS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON OCTOBER 20TH.

AND THE ADJACENT UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF GRAND PRAIRIE HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN AND MAINTAIN THE APPROPRIATE TABC PERMIT, AUTHORIZING THE SALE AND ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF BEER AND WINE.

AND EMPLOYEES WHO SELL OR SERVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WILL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE APPLICABLE TABC SELLER SERVER CERTIFICATIONS.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HOW STAFF IS, UM, ANALYZING.

SO JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES DESIGNATE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS MIXED USE, WHICH SUPPORTS A COMBINATION OF COMPLEMENTARY USES AND ACTIVITY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIES DOWNTOWN AS AN AREA FOR CONTINUED REVITALIZATION AND ENVISIONS A WALKABLE MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT SUPPORTED BY INFILL DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT AND USES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO DOWNTOWN AS A LIVE, WORK AND PLAY DESTINATION.

AND THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS THE CITY'S CONTINUED EMPHASIS ON DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.

THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL GOALS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY CONTINUED REVITALIZATION OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND ATTRACTION OF INDEPENDENT, UNIQUE RETAIL STORES AS CITY PRIORITIES.

THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ALSO ENCOURAGES A MIX OF USES THAT GENERATE ACTIVITY AND SUPPORTS DOWNTOWN AS A DESTINATION FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY CONTEMPLATED WITHIN AN ACTIVE MIXED USE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.

AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE DOWNTOWN IS UNDERGOING SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENT INTENDED TO SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS IMPLEMENT SEVERAL OBJECTIVES OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, INCLUDING IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY, CREATING A MORE WALKABLE MAIN STREET, ENHANCING THE PUBLIC REALM, AND SUPPORTING FUTURE INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPOSED USE WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONTINUED ACTIVATION OF AN EXISTING DOWNTOWN PROPERTY AS THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN REDEVELOPMENTS ARE IMPLEMENTED.

THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE EXISTING MASONIC LODGE.

INTRODUCING A NEW COMMERCIAL USE WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BOOKSTORE AND CAFE IS A RELATIVELY LOW INTENSITY USE WITH LIMITED ANTICIPATED IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING STREETS.

AND THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN TRANSPORTATION NETWORK STAFF SENT 30 LETTERS, UH, TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVED ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND 14 IN SUPPORT, REPRESENTING 14 UNIQUE VALID ADDRESSES.

SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHT COMMENTS ARE SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY AND REVITALIZATION IN DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE, SUPPORT FOR MORE DINING, ENTERTAINMENT, AND GATHERING OPPORTUNITIES DOWNTOWN.

AND FINALLY, SUPPORT FOR A LOCALLY OWNED BOOKSTORE.

SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ONE, OPERATIONS SHALL ADHERE TO EXHIBIT B, OPERATIONAL PLAN.

TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE, AND THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN A VALID PERMIT FROM THE TABC.

MR. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO, AND I WILL LEAD OFF WITH MY, WITH THE QUESTION BEFORE LETTING THE OTHER, ASKING THAT FOLKS, SO IF, IF YOU GET RID OF THE, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE CIGAR, CIGAR LOUNGE, PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER MUSEUM, GALLERY OR BOOKSTORE IN GRAND PRAIRIE THAT HAS ASKED FOR SUCH A PERMIT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

IT'D BE KIND OF COOL.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR AARON? I ASK.

OH, YOU'RE GONNA ASK THE OWNER? YEAH.

OKAY, AARON.

THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UM, JULIE, DO WE HAVE ANY? YES.

GREAT.

WE HAVE TWO CARDS.

FIRST CARD IS FROM THE APPLICANT, REESE SMITH, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

AWESOME.

HI EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS REESE SMITH.

I LIVE AT 1405 EAST TARRANT ROAD, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 OH.

WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO GRAND PRAIRIE IN 2014 WITH OUR TWO SMALL KIDS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

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THERE WAS NO PLACE TO TAKE OUR KIDS TO GO SIT AND READ A BOOK.

THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR US TO GO ON OUR DATES THAT WE LIKE TO GO ON WHERE WE WOULD GO HUNTING FOR SOMETHING NEW TO READ.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT REALLY STRUCK ME AS I LIVED HERE.