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ALL I'M GONNA GO, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.[Call to Order]
UM, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 25TH, 2026.I'M THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS HEREBY CALLED BACK TO ORDER AT 6:41 PM.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
FOR ALL THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER IN THE BACK, AND SHE'D BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT, PLEASE DO SO.
I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
ARI HERE PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR MALCOLM CHERY AND KENNETH PRESLEY.
BEFORE MOVING ON TO OUR INVOCATION AND PLEDGES, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME A NEW FACE TO OUR COMMISSION, UH, MR. MICAH LOCKHART.
AND MIKE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOU'D LIKE TO HAPPEN TO BE ON, HAVE YOU ON BOARD? SURE.
SO, MICHAEL LOCKHART, ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, UH, WEST POINT GRAD, UH, FORMER ARMY OFFICER.
UH, GRADUATED FROM UT, MBA, UH, MOVED DIRECTLY TO GRAND PRAIRIE, STAYED IN WESTCHESTER FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEN NOW RESIDE DOWN IN MERRI, LAGOS, UH, OFF OF LAKE RIDGE.
UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE, AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE WEST POINT GRAD.
UM, AND NOW, UM, TY CHAPMAN WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION AND AFTERWARDS, UH, FRANK, UH, GONZALEZ WILL LEAVE US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAGS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS, THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TOGETHER IN SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY PERSON HERE HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH A RESPONSIBILITY THAT IMPACTS THE LIVES OF MANY.
LORD GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU GRANT US WISDOM.
SO WE MAKE DECISIONS, FATHER GOD, WITH A CLARITY OF MIND, DISCERNMENT OF SPIRIT AND HUMILITY TO LISTEN.
WELL, FATHER GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD JUST PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR FAIR CITY, FATHER GOD, AND THOSE THAT SERVE IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH, LORD GOD, FILL THIS ROOM WITH KINDNESS, COMPASSION, AND A GENUINE DESIRE TO WORK TOGETHER.
LORD GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR CITY.
KEEP US FATHER GOD SAFE IN THE SANCTITY OF YOUR WILL.
FATHER GOD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO TOUCH THE LIVES OF MANY.
LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MOMENT.
PLEASE STAND AS WE RECITE THE P OF ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, HONOR.
AND NOW THE TEXAS STATEMENT, THE TEXAS FLAG.
TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.
UM, IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY THE STAFF.
APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED, TOTAL, COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE, MAYBE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE REQUESTING TO SPEAK.
I MIGHT REDUCE THAT TO THREE OR FOUR MINUTES, BUT YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
EVERYBODY WILL BE HEARD AT THIS MEETING.
UM, ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION
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OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, ALONG WITH WHO YOU, WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO, EXCUSE ME.
STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS OF EACH ITEM.
AGAIN, FINAL CALL, BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT PUT IN A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM, PLEASE DO SO.
NOW, AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK UP FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH SPEAKERS? WE DON'T HAVE CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UH, THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION
[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]
IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.THERE IS ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, MR. GONZALEZ, MAY I GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 11TH, 2026.
UM, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, FROM THE AUGUST 11TH MEETING, UH, BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.
IS THERE ANY DEBATE ON THIS ISSUE? CAN OTHERWISE, CAN THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND.
[2. SUP-26-07-0017 - Specific Use Permit - Peaceful Pet Cremation (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for Crematorium in a commercial lease space on 2.77 acres. Lot 2R, Block D, Cox and Hines Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial (LI), and addressed as 520 S Great Southwest Pkwy, Suite 160]
THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE START WITH, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS ITEM NUMBER TWO SUP DASH 26 DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 0 1 7.
IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PEACEFUL PET CREMATION, UH, LOCATED AT FIVE 20 GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY, SUITE NUMBER ONE 60.
UM, THIS AREA, THE REQUEST IS FOR AN SUP FOR CREMATORIUM.
THE AREA IS ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UM, THE HIGHLIGHTED KIND OF YELLOW BLOCK RIGHT THERE IS THAT ENTIRE BLOCK.
THE ORANGE IS THE SPECIFIC SUITE NUMBER ONE 60.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING DISTRICTS AROUND IT.
WE HAVE SOME CELL TOWERS TO THE NORTH, UM, UNDEVELOPED LAND TOWARDS THE SOUTH ACROSS SHERMAN STREET, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE WEST AND COMMERCIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL OFFICE, WHICH IS A RIDER TRUCK RENTAL, UM, TO THE EAST.
SO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST IS FOR A PREP CREMATORIUM IN AN EXISTING 9,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL LEASE SPACE.
IT UTILIZES ALINE HYDROLYSIS, ALSO KNOWN AS ACCLAMATION.
IT'S A WATER-BASED CREMATION PROCESS.
UH, THE BUSINESS HOURS ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM THEY ANTICIPATE EIGHT EMPLOYEES.
UM, THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T BE HAVING A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS, UM, PERMITTED OUTSIDE OF NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
THEY, IT'S USUALLY BY APPOINTMENT.
UH, THE ACCLAMATION EQUIPMENT OPERATIONS OCCUR DURING THESE NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WITH OCCASIONAL EXTENDED OPERATIONAL RUNNING OPERATIONS, RUNNING BE, UH, BEYOND 4:00 PM AS NEEDED.
IF THEY HAD STARTED A CYCLE THAT WAS NOT COMPLETE, THE FACILITY ANTICIPATES HANDLING 70 PETS PER WEEK.
BUT THIS IS ALL BASED ON CUSTOMER DEMAND.
UH, DECEASED COMPANION ANIMALS WILL ARRIVE AT THE FACILITY EITHER VIA PET OWNERS OR THROUGH TRANSPORT SERVICES FROM VE UH, VETERINARY CLINICS.
ONCE RECEIVED ON SITE, THE OPERATIONS FOLLOW THIS PARTICULAR SEQUENCE.
UM, POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION, COMPLETION OF REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION, RESPECTFUL PREPARATION, EXECUTION OF THE ACCLAMATION CYCLE, PROCESSING OF REMAINING BONE FRAGMENTS, PACKAGING, UM, OF THE ASHES, AND THEN COORDINATED RETURN EITHER TO THE PET OWNER OR TO THE VETERINARY CLINIC.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE.
THEY WILL HAVE ABOUT 2000 DEDICATED TO CUSTOMER FACING OFFICE SPACE.
UM, AS YOU SAW, THE LOCATION IS A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
IT HAS A SHARED, UH, PARKING LOT, AND IT DOES PROVIDE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED USE STAFF, UM, DID, UH, PERFORM AN ANALYSIS.
UH, THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE ASK IS, DOES THE PROPOSAL ADVANCE THE CITY'S VISION? THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES.
THIS AREA IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FLUME.
THE PROPOSED PET AFTER CURRENT ACCLAMATION FACILITY FUNCTIONS AS A LOW INTENSITY SPECIALIZED COMMERCIAL SERVICE, UH, WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL FRAMEWORK, MAKING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENDED, UH, CHARACTER OF THIS CORRIDOR.
THE PROJECT ADVANCES THE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY GOAL TO ENCOURAGE RESOURCE CONSERVATION AND RENEWABLE ENERGY, UM, IN THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE SECOND QUESTION WE ASKED IS THE, IS THE PROPOSAL COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS? THE PROJECT ALIGNS WITH ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PATTERNS IN
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THE CORRIDOR OPERATING ENTIRELY INDOORS.THIS USE WILL NOT CONFLICT WITH, UH, NEIGHBORING OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, AND HOSPITAL DISTRICTS.
ALSO, AS A LOW TRAFFIC APPOINTMENT ONLY OPERATION.
THE FACILITY PROVIDES AN EFFECTIVE BUFFER BETWEEN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALL OF THE OTHER USES, UM, SURROUNDING IT.
THE THIRD QUESTION, HOW DOES THE PROPOSAL RELATE TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, UM, AND AREA CONTEXT? THE PROPOSED USE DOES ALIGN WITH ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
AND THE LAST QUESTION, WHAT DEVELOPMENT CHARACTERS OF THE PROPOSAL SHOULD BE CONSIDERED? UM, UNLIKE TRADITIONAL CREMATION OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES, THE PROPOSED WATER-BASED PROCESS OPERATES ENTIRELY INDOORS WITH ZERO COMBUSTION OR AIRBORNE EMISSIONS.
NO SMOKE OR GASES, AND MINIMAL EXTERNAL NOISE.
THE APPOINTMENT ONLY OPERATIONAL MODEL GENERATES MINIMAL SITE TRAFFIC.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
UM, 11 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT, UH, TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE, UM, LETTER OF OPPOSITION, WHICH I HAVE HANDED TO YOU GUYS IN THE BRIEFING.
UM, AND FINALLY, SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE, THE FOLLOWING CONDITION OPERATIONS SHALL ADHERE TO EXHIBIT B, UM, OPERATIONAL PLAN.
THAT'S, UM, THE END OF THE, UM, PRESENTATION.
I DID JUST RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT WHO IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
SOMETHING, SOME EMERGENCY HAS COME UP.
UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HANNAH? I DO.
UH, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, NAN, THANK YOU AGAIN, VERY DETAILED AND INFORMATIVE IN REGARDS TO THE WASTEWATER, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS THE CITY WASTEWATER, UH, DEPARTMENT BE CONTACTED AS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN REGARDS JUST TO DISCHARGE? AND, UM, WILL BE, WILL IT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE, YOU KNOW, OF A, OF OCCUPANCY BEFORE THEY MOVE IN? YEAH, SO I KNOW THAT THE, AGAIN, PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, OUR PHAQ, UM, HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN CONSULTED ON THIS, UM, UH, REVIEW.
AND THEY, THE DISCHARGE IS, IT GOES THROUGH THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, TEAM BASICALLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DISCHARGE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW OUR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UH, DEPARTMENT WILL BE A PART OF THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY REVIEW.
SO IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEY'LL BE REVIEWED AGAIN, AND THEIR OPERATIONS WILL BE VERIFIED BY THEM.
AND WHATEVER DISCHARGE OR PROCESS WILL BE NEEDED, UH, TO MEET, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, QUALITY STANDARDS, THEY'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
RASHAD, I, I DO HAVE COMMENTS, UH, THAT THEY LEFT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY LEFT ON THE SUP REVIEW, IF YOU GUYS WANNA SEE THAT.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA PASS THAT TO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, MS. CHAPMAN, OR COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.
YOU HAVE A, YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION.
RASHAD, IS IT LIKE A STORAGE TANK OR IS IT ACTUALLY GOING INTO, DO WE KNOW? I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS, MA.
IS THERE A PERIODIC INSPECTION OF THE WASTEWATER RUNOFF, OR IS IT A ONETIME CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, OR WHAT'S THE QUALITY CONTROL? THE CO RASHAD, IS THAT ANNUAL OR, THAT IS A LONG TIME.
UM, BUT IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL ISSUES, THEY'LL FOLLOW UP.
UM, BUT I DUNNO IF THEY HAVE A
AND JUST TO DOING A QUICK AI SEARCH HERE, UH, THE, THE BODY IS PLACED IN A CLEAN STAINLESS VESSEL FILLED WITH A MIXTURE OF ROUGHLY 90 PER 95% WATER AND 5%, UM, ALKALINE SOLUTION.
AND SO, UM, HOW THEY HANDLE THAT WATER AFTER THE FACT, I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND THAT ACCELERATES THE DECOM DECOMPOSITION PROCESS.
IT'S A, I DON'T WANNA SAY MORBID, BUT IT'S A VERY UNIQUE TOPIC THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
AND HENA, I'M SORRY, YOU, BUT THERE'S NO DEVELOPER.
YOU DIDN'T GET THE DEVELOPER HERE, SO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE SOME MORE QUESTIONS? UM, I CAN TRY.
I, I, I, I SHARE WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, UH, HAD TO SAY.
'CAUSE I THIS AFTER THE STUFF GETS DECOMPOSED, I DUNNO IF IT'S A ONE TIME ONLY.
BUT THE, THE REAL QUESTION IS, DOES THAT STUFF GET SHIPPED OFF SOMEWHERE OR DOES IT GO INTO THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM? RIGHT.
AND WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, IF Y'ALL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING THIS, AND YOU NEED THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, FEEL FREE TO TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I'M FINE WITH TAB IT TO THE NEXT MEETING, MEETING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS MY DISTRICT.
I'M NOT GONNA BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
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TWO MEETINGS DOWN.IS THAT POSSIBLE? NOT KNOWING THE DETAILS OF THE LEASE? UH, I WOULD LIKELY TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING, JUST NOT TO, UH, CREATE AN ISSUE IN THAT AREA.
UM, HANNAH, THEN MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU RELATES TO THE MAP.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERVIEW, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A MOUSE CAPABILITY, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
WHERE WAS THE, UH, THE MOTEL THAT, UH, COM COMMISSIONER SMITH WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE? I THINK IT'S THIS, IT'S ON RIVER SIDE.
OH, SO IT'S THE NORTH OF, UH, TRUCK.
NO, NO, THAT LITTLE SLIVER BUILDING SIDE.
YOU DRIVE IN ONE WAY, IN ONE WAY OUT, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOT SOME 18 WHEELERS BACKING UP INTO IT.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
UM, JUST GIVEN, THIS IS MY DISTRICT, SO I DON'T MIND LEAVING THE DISCUSSION ON IT.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, DID DID YOU GET SOMETHING FROM THE, UH, OWNER ITSELF THAT, UH, HENA GAVE YOU? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE READ INTO THE RECORD? IF IT'S FROM THE, UH, UH, THE OWNER, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD SO IT CAN AT LEAST HEAR WHAT IT FROM APPLICANT.
I, I CAN, I CAN, THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
PH OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS FROM THE OWNER.
WELL, THAT, NO, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS, OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS PART OF THE REVIEW, UH, FOR THE RECORD, IS THAT I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE OWNER IS NOT HERE, AND WE CAN'T ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, UH, BUSINESS ITSELF, BECAUSE I THINK IT SERVES A PURPOSE.
BUT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO KNOWN WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, BUSINESS OR IF THEY HAVE OTHER OPERATIONS IN OTHER, UH, CITIES.
AND IF THERE WAS ANY TROUBLE, WHY ARE THEY COMING HERE NOW? AND DID THEY LEAVE ANOTHER, DID THEY RUN FROM ANOTHER CITY WITH ISSUES? SO WE CAN'T ANSWER, GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
SO I, I, I FEEL THAT IT IS IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST FOR THE SAKE OF GRAND PRAIRIE THAT WE TABLE THIS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JANIE? NO.
SO, UM, THERE IS NO APPLICANT.
NOBODY ELSE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HANNAH? SO, THANK YOU, HANNAH, VERY MUCH.
UH, JULIE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS TOPIC? WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, AS STATED, THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT, SO I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF JUSTIFIED QUESTIONS HERE THAT, THAT RASHAD AND AI CANNOT ANSWER FOR US.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, ALTHOUGH I SOMETIMES CONSIDER RASHAD MY, HE'S MY TWO LEGGED AI FOR PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
THAT'S, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE, UM, NEXT MEETING.
UM, BUT, UM, I, I, I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT PHEQ HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
MY BIG CONCERN, THE TWO WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE THIS MEETING, IS JUST, UH, WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? AND IS IT COMPLETE CREMATION, MEANING, UH, OR IS IT SOME OF IT'S LIQUID AND BONE STAY BEHIND? BECAUSE I, I, I HEARD, I SAW BONES IN THERE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO ASK HIM OF THAT QUESTION.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD KNOW IT, BUT IT'S, IT WOULD BE KIND OF WEIRD IF IT WAS.
ANYWAY, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU GUYS DECIDE.
UM, JUST SO FOR NOTICE PURPOSES, YOU ARE MOVING TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR SIX 30 ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM.
YEAH, SO I MAKE THAT MOTION IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY MYSELF, UH, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SMITH TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING AT SIX 30.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? NO.
CAN I GET A SHOW OF HANDS OF THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR? PAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[3. SUP-26-06-0015 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Large Retail w/ Gas Sales (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a Large Retail with Gas Sales featuring a Drive-Through Pharmacy and a Convenience Store on 8.87 acres. A portion of Tract 1B13, out of James W. Brannon Survey, Abstract No. 156, and a portion of Lot 1R-1, Block 1, Lake Parks Retail Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-267A, within the Lake Ridge Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 5201 & 5325 Lake Ridge Pkwy]
CASE.THE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SLASH SITE PLAN REQUEST, SUP 26 0 6 0 0 1 5.
SO, UM, THIS IS A SUP SITE PLAN FOR A GROCERY STORE WITH GAS SALES AND DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY AND CONVENIENCE STORE.
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UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE UM, ONLY REASON THAT THEY HAVE TO DO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITH THIS PROPOSAL IS BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY COMPONENT AND GAS SALES AND CONVENIENCE STORE.IF A SINGLE GROCERY STORE WOULD COME, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT.
THEY WILL ONLY NEED TO DO A SITE PLAN.
SO THEY ARE LOCATED AT, UH, 52 0 1 53 25 LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY.
AND, UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON PD 2 67, AND THEY ARE IN THE LAKE RIDGE CORRIDOR.
THIS GENERALLY SHOWS THESE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES EXISTING TO THE NORTH.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, FROST BANK AND NEW BUILDINGS COMING IN HERE.
THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY SOME VACANT, UNDEVELOPED, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND ARE ALSO SURROUNDED BY ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALL AROUND.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THEY ARE PROPOSING 50,000 SQUARE FOOT GROCERY STORE WITH A DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY TO THE SOUTH HERE.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A GAS SALES THAT WILL HAVE, UM, GAS PUMPS, UM, EIGHT GAS PUMPS WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET.
THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO, UH, EXCEED THE PARKING MAXIMUM.
THE LINSKY PLAN, UM, IS SHOWN HERE.
UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING WATERLINE ALONG THE LAKERIDGE, UM, PARKWAY.
THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO BE REDUCED FROM 30 FEET.
THE REQUIRED 30 FEET TO A VARIABLE WIDTH THAT RANGES FROM 17 TO 30 FEET.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO PLANT THE, UH, REQUIRED THE 78 REQUIRED TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE AS SHOWN.
UM, AS PART OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST, THEY ARE PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES AS COMPENSATORY MEASURES.
THEY'RE PROPOSED ALONG THE FRONT WALL OF THE, UH, PROPOSED GROCERY STORE, AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSED SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH.
SO THE AREA TO THE NORTH CONTAINS A PERGOLA WITH BENCHES AND PLANTERS.
THE, UH, AREAS IN FRONT OF THE STORE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT WE'LL HAVE NICE PLANTERS WITH BENCHES AND BIKE RACKS.
SO THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATION I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT TO YOU.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A SIGNIFICANT, UM, UPGRADE FROM WHAT WE WAS INCLUDED IN THE PNZ PACKET.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THIS ARRIVED TO THE STAFF AFTER PACKET WAS POSTED, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT THEY PROPOSED.
SO YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THEIR, UM, ENTRY FEATURE NOW HAS A PROJECTING CANOPY AND WITH CLEAR THREE WINDOWS.
AND WHAT YOU WILL NOTICE IS THE COLOR SCHEME.
UM, IT USED TO BE A LOT MORE, UH, LESS EARTH TONE.
THEY HAVE INTRODUCED DIFFERENT BRICK FINISHES AND STONE FINISHES TO CREATE MORE VARIETY, AND THEY HAVE ADDED MORE DETAIL AROUND THE STREET CORNERS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
OVERALL, IMPROVING THE DESIGN QUALITY OF THE PROPOSAL.
OKAY, HERE ARE OTHER ELEVATIONS, AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
UH, THEY HAVE REDUCED THE AREA THAT, UH, USES THE SIGNATURE BLUE COLOR AND ARE GOING MORE TOWARD THE NEUTRAL TONE.
THEY ARE COMPLYING THE APPENDIX F CHECKLIST BY PROVIDING 12.5 MENU ITEMS. THEY ARE REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES.
THIS IS A VARIANCE TO, UH, THE MAXIMUM ALLOW PARKING SPACES 100, UM, 9 89 TO PROVIDE, TO ALLOW 273 PARKING SPACES.
THE SECOND IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ALLOW A VARIABLE WITH BUFFER RANGING FROM 17 TO 30 FEET.
THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO THE STREET TREES.
THEY ARE, UM, REQUIRED TO PLANT 13 STREET TREES, AND, UM, THEY WOULD WOULD WISH TO PLANT THREE STREET TREES TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE UTILITIES.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO THE OVERALL WINDOWS.
UM, THE VARI, UH, WE REQUIRE A WINDOW TO ACCOUNT FOR 50% OF THE LENGTH OF ALL SIZE.
THEY ARE PROVIDING 11% ON THE GROCERY STORE, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING 11% ALSO ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
UH, THEY, THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO THE PRIMARY FACADE.
THEY'RE PROVIDING 7% ON THE GROCERY STORE, AND 19% ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
ALSO, THE OVERALL CANOPY, WE REQUIRE 25% OF THE OVERALL LENGTH.
THEY'RE PROVIDING 12% FOR THE RETAIL STORE, AND 15% FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
SO STEP PROVIDES ANALYSIS BASED ON THE EXISTING ADOPTED PLANS, POLICIES, UM, EXISTING CONTEXT AND, UM, LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
SO THE FIRST ANALYSIS QUESTION IS, DOES THIS PROPOSAL OR ADVANCE THE CITY'S VISION? SO THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION
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FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES THIS, UM, PROVIDES A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL USE THAT SUPPORTS LEADERS LONG TERM LAND USE AND GROWTH OBJECTIVES.THIS ALSO, UM, SUPPORTS THE EPICENTER PLAN, OUR GOAL, WHICH STATES SUPPORTING RETAIL RECRUITMENT AND PROPERTY UPKEEP.
UH, BY INTRODUCING A NEW RETAIL SERVICE TO A KEY UNDEVELOPED TRACK, THE PROPOSAL SUSTAINS THE ECONOMY MOMENTUM OF THIS LOCATION SUCCESSFULLY.
BUILDING UPON THE COMMERCIAL FOUNDATION ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED BY THE NEARBY FROST BANK MEDICAL CITY, ER IN CHIPOTLE.
THE PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL GOAL BY SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE GROCERY USES AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING? THE PROPOSAL DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, AND WOULD REINFORCE THE, UM, PROPERTY'S INTENDED ROLE AS BEING A PART OF A LARGER COMMERCIAL NODE.
THE PROPOSED USE WOULD FUNCTION AS A SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL, UM, ANCHOR CAPABLE ATTRACTING OTHER, SUPPORTING COMPLEMENTARY RETAIL AND SERVICE USES FOR THE AREA, AND STRENGTHEN THE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS AREA.
HOW THIS, THIS RELATE TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND AREA CONTEXT.
SO THIS PROJECT IS INTENDED TO TRANSFORM AN UNDERUTILIZED PARCEL INTO AN ACTIVE ECONOMY, UH, CONTRIBUTOR.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE ACTIVITY AND VISIBILITY AT THE INTERSECTION AND MAY HELP STIMULATE ADDITIONAL COMM, UH, COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT IN THE AREA.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THE SCALE OF PROPOSED USE WARRANTS CONSIDERING A CONSIDERATION OF TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SITE AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UH, LASTLY, HOW DOES, UH, WHAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT CHARACTERISTICS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED? THE PROPOSED GROCERY STORE REPRESENTS A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER AND MORE TRAFFIC INTENSIVE USE.
THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL AFFECT THE INTERSECTION AND SURROUNDING ROADWAYS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING CONGESTION.
AND THIS SHOULD BE A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION IN EVALUATING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE UTILITY TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY REQUIRED ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE GROCERY STORE AND IMPROVE THE OPERATIONS AND SAFETY OF THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK.
IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIRED TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, THE SITE SHALL PROVIDE ADEQUATE INTERNAL CIRCULATION, VEHICLE STACKING AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC DEMAND AND PREVENT VEHICLE QUEUING OR INTERNAL CIRCULATION ISSUES FROM AFFECTING ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR ACCESS POINTS.
UM, WE, IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE, UH, FORT WORTH STAR TELEGRAM, AND 52 LETTERS WERE SENT OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED, UM, 29 SUPPORT LETTERS REPRESENTING 21 UNIQUE AND VALID ADDRESSES.
WE DID RECEIVE 303, UH, LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, REPRESENTING 228 UNIQUE VALID ADDRESSES.
UM, THESE LETTERS WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AFTER PACKET WAS POSTED, SO THEY WERE NOT INCLUDING THE PNC PACKET, HOWEVER, ALL THE LETTERS RECEIVED WILL BE NUMBERED AND WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE PACKET.
SO HERE'S THE REQUESTED ACTION.
UH, SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY AND BLANCO DRIVE, AND ANY OTHER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS DETERMINED NECESSARY BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, SHALL BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY STANDARDS AND SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPER AS REQUIRED AND APPROVED BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
THE LOCATION AND CONFIGURATION OF ACCESS EASEMENT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
THE APPLICANT SHALL MAKE, UH, MODIFICATION TO ACCESS EASEMENT DETERMINE NECESSARY BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CERTIFICATION AND SAFETY.
ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING SHALL BE PROVIDED AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE TO ENHANCE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG THE MAIN ACCESS DRIVE FROM THE BLANCO DRIVE, INCLUDING THE PORTION OF THE ACCESS DRIVE EXTENDING PAST THE CONVENIENCE STORE, WOULD HELP ESTABLISH A MORE DEFINED AND VISUAL, UH, PROMINENT ENTRANCES.
AGAIN, WE HAVE, UH, PRINTED OUT THE OPPOSITION LETTER FOR YOUR REVIEW, BUT FOR THE, UH, BENEFIT OF THE MEMBERS, WE DO ACCEPT IT.
UM, DOES HAVE A SUMMARY OF RECURRING COMMENTS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED.
WHILE SOME RESIDENTS DID NOT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, THE COMMENTS PROVIDED GENERALLY FALLS INTO, UH, THESE THEMES,
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UH, CONCERNS ABOUT EXISTING TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING NOISE, LIGHTING, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS, THE PROXIMITY OF EXISTING WALMARTS AND OTHER GROCERY OPTIONS, LOSS OF OPEN SPACE AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUELING COMPONENTS AND CONCERNS WITH THE REQUEST EXCEPTION TO LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.UH, SOME REASONS ALSO RAISE CONCERNS REGARDING CRIME, PROPERTY VALUES, AND POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT ON EXISTING BUSINESSES.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PS.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? JUNE, THAT WAS EXCELLENT.
BUT I HAVE A FEELING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? FRANK, YOU JUMP FIRST? YES, OF COURSE.
JUNE, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, THIS SPECIFIC, UH, LOCATION IN TERMS OF ITS ZONING.
UH, IT, IT IT'S SUPPORTED, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE, FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT TO HAVE A A, A GROCERY STORE, I THINK WHAT'S BRINGING, BRINGING IT TO LIGHT IS A, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE CLEAR, IT'S, IT'S A GAS STATION, THE DRIVE THROUGH AS WELL AS THE, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, CONVENIENCE STORE, THE, YOU KNOW, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT WOULD BE BY RIGHT SUPPORTABLE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
SO IF THE APPLICANT DECIDE TO REMOVE THOSE COMPONENTS, JUST, YOU KNOW, TO BE KIND OF EXPLORATIVE, UM, THEY WOULD BE A LAB BUY, RIGHT? AND JUST CAN DO JUST A GROCERY STORE BY ITSELF, WHICH WITHOUT SUP, THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN, BUT IT WOULD BE APPROVED IN THE MINISTRY, UH, MORE, UH, THROUGHOUT JUST THE PROCESS AS LONG AS IT COMPLY.
MARQUITA, JANIE, ONE, JUST ONE QUESTION.
I JUST WONDERED, IN THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH THEM, DID YOU DISCUSS THE VARIANCES BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS THE REASON THAT MIGHT HAVE A BIG CONCERN IS FOR THE VARIANCES? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEY REALIZE THAT BY, RIGHT, THEY COULD BE THERE, BUT WHAT VARIANCES MM-HMM
SO THEY ARE VERY AWARE OF THE, UH, VARIANCES THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS AS AMENITIES.
SO AS A RESULT, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING LOOKS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING STORES WITHIN THE CITY, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SAY, ONE, THEY'RE, UM, MUCH SMALLER SCALE THAN THE SUPERCENTERS, AND THEY WANTED TO SAY, HEY, WE WANNA BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION.
SO THEY ARE PROVIDING A LOT MORE ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS AND OUTDOOR AMENITIES.
AGAIN, UM, SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE DRIVEN BY THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND JUST INABILITY TO PUT GLAZING OR, UH, WINDOWS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, IT IS VERY VALID THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE MANY NUMBERS OF VARIANCES.
UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY NUMBER ONE, UH, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX ARE, UH, GIVEN IN OTHER RETAIL, UM, DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.
IT'S JUST THE DEGREE OR THE, UM, AMOUNT OF VARIANCES THAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY REQUIRE TO VARY.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ISAM WITH REGARD TO THE TREES.
YOU'RE REQUIRING 15, UM, AND THEY'RE ON, UH, CONSIDERING THREE.
WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT YES, MA'AM WAS A VERY, THAT AREA IS FULL OF TREES, BEAUTIFUL TREES, MA'AM? YES, MA'AM.
SO ONE THING I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS PROBABLY BEST ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT MM-HMM
THE EXPLANATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF WAS BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTING WATER LINE UNDERNEATH, AND TYPICALLY PEOPLE TRY TO AVOID PLANTING TREES NEAR A WATERLINE BECAUSE THE ROOTS CAN GO INTO WATERLINE AND CAUSE OTHER TROUBLE.
THAT WAS THE EXPLANATION PROVIDED TO STAFF.
HOWEVER, UH, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE OTHER OPTIONS LIKE ZERO ESCAPING OR SHOVES THAT CAN BE PLANTED POSSIBLY OUTSIDE THE EASEMENT.
AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT FURTHER EXPLAIN.
UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I HAVE A, WILL YOU PULL UP THE PHOTO OF THE PLAT PLEASE? UH, SORRY.
YOU KNOW, I RECOGNIZE THE LONG ROAD COMING IN.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL, IS THAT THE FULL 8.87 ACREAGE, OR ARE WE LOOKING AT LATER MAYBE SUB LOTS COMING IN WHERE THEY'RE LEASING SPACE? SO WE, AGAIN, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY NOTICES, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ACREAGE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE IMPACT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT MAY DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ACCOUNTED TOWARD THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN.
LAND, UM, EITHER THEY'RE, UM, MM-HMM
CONTEMPLATING PURCHASING MM-HMM
OR THEY'VE ALREADY PURCHASED IS INCLUSIVE OF HOW MANY TOTAL ACRES DO WE KNOW? I BELIEVE THAT IS THE EIGHT POINT A SEVEN
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ACRES PROVIDED ON THE SITE PLAN.AND, AND THIS FACILITY WILL OCCUPY HOW MUCH OF THAT SPACE IS, UH, SO ALL OF IT
BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A DETENTION POND IN THE BACK AND PARKING LOTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING BACK TO YOUR BIRDSEYE.
SO AT THE INTERSECTION OF, AT THE T-BONE INTERSECTION OF BLANCO.
AND I GUESS THAT'S LAKERIDGE? YES.
THE, THE BUILDING KIND OF, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST THAT HAS A POOL, THAT'S A, I'M ASSUMING AN HOA FACILITY? YES.
AND THEN THIS MAY BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR BRETT.
BRETT, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF BLANCO, WHOEVER IS THE HOUSE IN THAT CORNER, DOES THAT GUY YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
DOES THAT HOUSE, ARE THEY GONNA SUFFER LIKE UNDUE, UM, BACKYARD INTRUSIONS, ONE MIGHT SAY, WITH TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? I THINK THAT'S A CUL TO SAY, HEY, GO AHEAD.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE ON, ON WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS THAT, THAT SPECIFIC HOME WOULD HAVE, BUT IT WOULD BE THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION THAT WOULD HANDLE BULK OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN REGARDS TO ACCIDENTS, NOISE, THINGS LIKE THAT, I, I WOULD WANT TO SPECULATE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
FOR YOU? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW WILL THE DELIVERY, HOW WILL THE DELIVERY TRUCKS ENTER AND EXIT THE, THE PREMISES? YES.
SO, UM, IN ENTERING, IN EXITING, I THINK THEY CAN HAPPEN.
UM, BRETT, DO YOU KNOW THE TRUCK ENTRY FROM THE NORTH OR SOUTH? SO MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THE TRUCKS WOULD BE COMING FROM STATE HIGHWAY 360, GOING EAST ON CAMP WISDOM, AND THEN USING THAT DECELERATION LANE TO ENTER THE, UM, PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND THEN COME DOWN THAT LONG STRETCH TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FIRST JUNE
SO NOW I THINK THE, UH, APPLICANT, UH, WILL, YES.
I HAVE A CARD FROM CHARLIE ANDERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
MR. ANDERSON, WELCOME, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME UP HERE.
UM, I'VE BEEN UP, I, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE FAMILIAR FACES.
I'VE BEEN UP HERE A FEW TIMES.
WE JUST FINISHED THE UMS. CAN YOU STATE, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? I'M SORRY.
UH, CHARLIE ANDERSON, UH, 48 0 1 WEST LOVERS LANE, DALLAS, UH, 7 5 2 0 9.
UH, I WAS JUST SAYING, WE, WE JUST FINISHED THE, OR FINISHING UP THE, THE DEVELOPMENT UP AT EPIC WITH ANDRETTI'S AND BASS PRO.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HOW THAT'S WORKED OUT.
AND WE, THIS TAKES US WAY BACK.
SO WE BOUGHT THIS LAND 25 YEARS AGO, AND BACK THEN LAKE RIDGE WAS TWO LANE ASPHALT CAMP WISDOM WAS TWO LANE.
AND, UH, IT DIDN'T EVEN GO ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO JUST COME UP AND, 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS HERE THAT ARE WONDERING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY, SO OUR LAND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE TARGET, HOME DEPOT, ALL THE WAY, ALL OF THIS, AND BACK UP TO MATTHEW ROAD.
WE DEDICATED A GREAT DEAL OF RIGHT OF WAY, WORKED WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE MANY, MANY TIMES.
WE FOUND FOUR BUILDERS AND CREATED FOUR POCKETS.
THIS LAND WAS SO FLAT IT WOULDN'T DRAIN.
SO WE CREATED A 27 ACRE MANMADE LAKE AND ACCEPTED A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE, UH, ON LAKERIDGE TO GO INTO THE, INTO THE LAKE.
AND WHEN WE DID THE ZONING, THE, THE STAFF SUGGESTED WE HAVE COMMERCIAL OUT ON THE FREEWAY, WHICH WE FULFILLED THAT COMMITMENT WITH A HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET.
WE HAD, UH, LAKE PARKS WEST, AND THEN WE HAD THESE THREE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS HERE, AND WE WANTED TO CREATE A RETAIL SITE.
AND SO WHAT WAS IMPORTANT WAS WE SOLD THIS SITE TO ARLINGTON, ISD BECAUSE IT BACKED UP TO THE HOUSES.
AND THIS WAS THE IDEA THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE RETAIL.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE, WE HAVE A 250 FOOT POWER LINE WIDTH COMING ACROSS.
THIS WAS A NATURAL SEPARATION BETWEEN LAKE PARKS WEST, UH, AND WHEN THE OTHER TOPIC THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE HOUSE HERE, NOW THAT'S A CUL-DE-SAC THAT DOESN'T COME STRAIGHT IN.
BUT THE, UH, BACK IN THE DAY, THE, THE STAFF OR THE CITY REQUIREMENT
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WAS A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACK.AND SO WE PETITIONED THE CITY, WE ACTUALLY GOT A VAN AND DROVE THEM OUT AND LOOKED AT SOME THINGS OUT IN FLOWER MOUND AND OTHER PLACES, AND SAID, WE WANT TO CREATE A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE EASEMENT.
CAN YOU PULL THAT SIDE PLAN UP THAT, UM, I'M SORRY.
THE, THE, THE ONE THAT SHOWS YOU HAD JUST A MINUTE AGO.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS A CLOSER SHOT.
I, I, UH, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS THIS ONE THAT SHOWS THIS ONE? SURE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
SO WHEN WE CAME IN, WE ASKED FOR, UM, WE, WE HAD THIS IDEA THAT, LOOK, INSTEAD OF A 10 FOOT, MOST, MOST SUBDIVISIONS BACK IN THE MICROPHONE, I'M SORRY, MOST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS HAD A 10, JUST A, A, A THIN WALL SCREENING WALL OR WOOD FENCE WITH A 10 FOOT SETBACK.
SO WE ASKED AND PETITION, AND THE COUNCIL AGREED, AND P AND Z AGREED AND ALLOWED US TO DO A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER HERE AND ALL ALONG LAKE PARKS WEST.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY MATURED AND, AND AND DONE NICELY.
UH, AND I THINK THAT CREATES A LOT OF SCREEN BETWEEN THESE HOUSES.
SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WALLS OR, UM, SETBACKS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 30 FOOT.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CREATED.
SO WHEN THIS WAS GONNA BE THE ONE RETAIL, SO AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE DONE RETAIL, LIKE YOU'D SEE A LOT OF CORNERS.
YOU HAVE A RETAIL SIDE HERE, A RETAIL SIDE HERE AND HERE.
WE SAID WE WILL PUT THE SCHOOL HERE, AND THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT INTO HOUSES.
AND THEN LET'S CREATE THIS RETAIL SITE AND CREATE THIS NATURAL BUFFER HERE.
AND I THINK THE WALMART LINES UP, WELL, BECAUSE IT FRONTS ACROSS FROM THE HOA ALSO, LAKE PARKS WEST HAS TOLD US WHEN WE, WHEN WE'VE BEEN UP HERE BEFORE, THEY WANTED EVERYTHING TO FRONT LAKE RIDGE.
SO THEY THOUGHT THAT THE CAMP WISDOM TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT.
AND SO WE DEDICATE A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS IS A NINE LANE, DOUBLE TURN INTERSECTION.
SO IT'S, AND IT'S BEEN WIDENED A COUPLE OF TIMES BY, BY THE CITY.
SO, UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT IN, IN THAT THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING VARIANCE.
UM, WE SOLD THIS SITE TO WAL, UH, HEB, EXCUSE ME, BACK IN 2012, AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD ONE OF THEIR STORES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY BOUGHT A LOT OF SITES, LIKE 30 OR 40 SITES IN THE METROPLEX, AND THEY CHOSEN SOME OF 'EM, THEY WEREN'T GONNA BUILD ON.
SO WE BOUGHT THE SITE BACK IN 2018.
BUT IN 2011, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPROVED NINE TO NOTHING ON OCTOBER 18TH, 2011, TO ALLOW THIS SITE TO HAVE 685 CAR PARKS BASED ON A HEB STORE THAT WAS 118,000 SQUARE FEET THAT WAS GONNA GROW TO 130,000 SQUARE FEET.
THEY HAD THEIR FUEL CENTER IN EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE OF A PARKING VARIANCE OF 685 CARS TO, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2 73.
TIME IS UP, BUT, UH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT BACKGROUND WOULD HELP A LITTLE BIT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE RETAIL IS ON THIS SITE, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE DOUBLE GO HOME CORNER.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM 360, YOU DO A RIGHT TURN IN.
IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE NORTH, YOU RIGHT TURN IN.
WE ALL KNOW THAT MOST ACCIDENTS OR, OR, OR MAJORITY OF THEM ARE LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHY THE RETAIL HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR THIS SITE, AND THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY HEB WANTED TO BE HERE.
WE ALSO RUN OUR CONTRACT TO SPROUTS, I THINK THREE YEARS AGO.
AND, AND THAT WAS TURNED DOWN AS WELL.
I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU BEFORE, UH, CERTAINLY TO CLARIFY, UM, MR. ANDERSON IS NOT WITH THE APPLICANT.
HE'S THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS WHY HE GOT FIVE MINUTES.
SO WE'RE NOW SWITCHING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, TO THAT APPLICANT OR PRO PROPERTY APPLICANT.
UM, IVAN, HE MAY WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
SO I WAS WONDER, JULIE, I WAS WONDERING THAT, SO THAT WAS WHY THAT CLOCK WAS AT FIVE MINUTES? YES.
THAT WAS MY, UH, I PUT HIS, UM, FIRST BECAUSE I BELIEVE HE WAS THE APPLICANT, BUT HE'S THE OWNER.
WE CAN ASK THAT WE SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION.
UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, CAN I INTRODUCE MYSELF OR PLEASE? YEAH.
WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES, SIR.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR WALMART.
UH, I AM BASED IN SAN ANTONIO AT 1 6 5 0 3 NCHE ROAD IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
AND I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR PROJECT THAT WE WISH TO BRING TO GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, AND TO TRY TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE TODAY AND ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE CAN.
UH, TO THAT END, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS, JUST SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW, AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE KNOW.
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UH, WE GOT RYAN TRIMBLE AND DEB DEBORAH MEEK, IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HANDS.UH, THEY'RE WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP AND HERE ALSO TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE MEDIA IF THERE'S ANY.
AND THEN CAROLYN COOK, FROM WHOM YOU'LL HEAR, UH, IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND DAVID UPTON, UH, ARE CIVIL ENGINEERS.
JUST SO THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, THE TEAM HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP.
SO, UH, THE PROJECT THAT WE WISH TO BRING HERE IS A, A WALMART NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS ARE OUR ANSWER TO SMALLER COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT REQUIRE LESS FOOTPRINT, UM, IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO WHAT WE NOTICED, UM, AT THIS SITE IS WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE NOTICES, RIGHT? IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA.
UH, THERE IS, UH, OPEN LAND THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH, UH, WITH A WILLING SELLER IN AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF GROCERY OPTIONS AND WHERE WE COULD BUILD A GROCERY STORE BY, RIGHT? UM, WE DID, WE DETERMINED THAT OP, UH, THAT OPENING JUST A GROCERY STORE MAY NOT, MAY LEAVE SOME SERVICES ON THE TABLE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD FUEL AND PHARMACY TO THE SITE.
SO, UH, WE, THESE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS ARE ABOUT 50,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE SIZE OF A SUPERCENTER.
UH, THEY DO NOT OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY.
THEY OPERATE DURING ROUGHLY 7:00 AM AND 11:00 PM.
THEY HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF TRUCKS DELIVERED PER DAY IN TERMS OF 18 WHEELERS.
SOMETIMES ONE, SOMETIMES THREE, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE, WHICH IS A LOT LESS THAN A TRADITIONAL SUPERCENTER, ALTHOUGH YOU WILL, YOU WILL SEE, UM, THE DELIVERY TRUCKS THAT YOU SEE FROM THE VENDORS, UH, DROPPING OFF, UH, PRODUCTS DURING THE DAY, JUST NOT THE 18 WHEELER VARIETY ANYWHERE NEAR AS OFTEN.
UM, THIS, UH, SITE WILL BE, UH, COST US ABOUT $30 MILLION TO INVEST.
UM, WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BRING THAT INVESTMENT TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE BUSINESS HERE, WHICH IS WHY WE SEE, SAW THIS SITE.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO INVEST IN THE SITE AND IN THE TRAFFIC, UH, AMENITIES, DESPITE ITS CHALLENGES, WE'RE WILLING TO PUT OUR CAPITAL TO WORK SO THAT WE CAN BRING SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN BE PROUD OF, UH, AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE UTILIZED.
IF WE BUILD SOMETHING AND PEOPLE DON'T SHOP THERE, MAYBE IT'S, IT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF, OF OUR CAPITAL.
UM, WE WILL PLAN TO, UH, EMPLOY AT LEAST 100 ASSOCIATES.
IT COULD BE AS HIGH AS 200 DEPENDING ON THE VOLUMES THAT WE DO AND, AND HOW OFTEN PEOPLE UTILIZE, UH, THE, THE SERVICES, OUR NEW FLEET.
SO I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION WALMART STOPPED BUILDING NEW STORES IN ABOUT 2016 OR 2017.
THE LAST ONE WE BUILT PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC WAS SOMEWHERE IN THIS DFW AREA.
I THINK IT WAS EITHER GRAPEVINE OR MAYBE EVEN SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE.
ABOUT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEW COMMERCE BEING DONE ONLINE, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS, NOT JUST FOR WALMART, BUT FOR MALLS AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF RETAIL, ABOUT WHAT WAS THE FUTURE OF, UH, BRICK AND MORTAR RETAIL IN THE TIME OF E-COMMERCE.
SO WALMART AND MANY OTHER, UH, COMPANIES SLOWED DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS EVEN MORE OF A HIT TO BRICK AND MORTAR.
BUT COMING OUTTA THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE REALLY SEEN A RETURN OF CUSTOMERS GOING BACK IN STORE.
UH, AND WHAT WE CALL, UH, THIS NEW, UH, FORM OF STORES IS OUR OMNI OMNICHANNEL STORES, WHICH IS REALLY JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A SWEET SPOT BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CUSTOMERS THAT LIKE TO SHOP.
UH, I USUALLY, UH, TALK ABOUT MY FAMILY BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD SENSE OF HOW WE SHOP.
SO MY MOM IS ALWAYS AT THE STORE.
SHE'S ALWAYS USUALLY TALKING TO A PHARMACIST.
I TRY TO ENCOURAGE HER TO DOWNLOAD THE APP.
SHE WANTS TO GO IN STORE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE OUR STORES MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR OUR IN-STORE SHOPPERS.
THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
I PREFER, I NEVER REALLY DEVIATE FROM WHAT I BUY.
VERY RARELY DO I BUY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I DON'T NEED SOMEBODY COMING TO MY DOORSTEP.
I'D RATHER JUST TAKE MY PICKUP TRUCK ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, PICK UP WHAT I NEED AND COME HOME.
UH, MY WIFE HAS A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE ALTOGETHER THAT I HAVEN'T DECODED.
THERE'S PACKAGES AND BAGS ARRIVING AND BOXES AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AT THE HOUSE.
UH, AND WE WANNA SERVE ALL THREE OF THOSE CUSTOMERS.
IF YOU WANT TO COME IN STORE, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SERVE YOU.
IF YOU WANNA JUST PICK UP YOUR GROCERIES, WE WANNA SERVE YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE 'EM DELIVERED TO YOUR HOME, WE WANT TO SERVE YOU.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, TODAY.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, UH, OBVIOUSLY WHAT STUCK OUT TO US IMMEDIATELY WAS A LACK OF STRICT OR, OR PRIMARILY GROCERY BUSINESS, UH, AT LEAST WITHIN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO WE DO ALSO HOPE TO BRING ALL THOSE SALES TAXES TO GRAND PRAIRIE, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE WOULD PLAY, THAT WE WOULD PAY TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO AGAIN, UH, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BRING A PHARMACY ALONG WITH OUR GROCERY STORE, UH, A FULL SERVICE PHARMACY WHEREBY PEOPLE CAN COME AND GET THE PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED.
UM, IF YOU DON'T WANNA GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AGAIN, EVERYTHING NOW IS ABOUT HOW DOES THE CUSTOMER, CUSTOMER WANNA SHOP? YOU WANT TO COME INSIDE, YOU'RE MY MOM, THAT'S FINE.
IF YOU'RE ME, YOU JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, PICK UP YOUR MEDICATION, THAT'S FINE.
OR AS YOU WILL SEE, WE HAVE A PROGRAM NOW CALLED WALMART PLUS.
UH, SO IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF WALMART PLUS, YOU CAN HAVE THE, THE MEDICINE ACTUALLY DELIVERED TO YOUR HOME WITHIN 24 HOURS
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A DAY, WHICH IS WHAT I OFFERED TO DO FOR MY MOM, UH, TO HAVE THOSE MEDICINES DELIVERED TO HER SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET ON THE ROADWAY, UM, TO DO THAT.IN TERMS OF OUR JOBS AS WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A COMMON MYTH, AND, AND I WAS MENTIONING, I DIGRESSED.
I I WAS MENTIONING THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T OPENED A STORE SINCE ABOUT 20 16, 20 17.
IN 2025, WE FINALLY STARTED OPENING SUPERCENTERS AGAIN.
WE OPENED A SUPERCENTER, TEXAS WAS THE FIRST ONE.
IT WAS IN CYPRESS JUST OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON.
WE OPENED ONE IN FRISCO AND ONE IN MELISSA.
UH, WHY THOSE AREAS? THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GROWING THE MOST RAPID RAPIDLY, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU ALL ARE GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF ROOFTOPS GOING IN, AND IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET OPENING IN MESQUITE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO THAT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE OF THIS TYPE IN THERE.
THEY'RE, UH, DESIGNED, UH, TO BE MORE AESTHETIC, MORE MODERN, UM, AND, AND TO FIT MORE PROPERLY.
SIMILAR WITH OUR ASSOCIATES, UH, WE'RE REALLY HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BRING OUR ASSOCIATES MORE VALUE FOR WORKING FOR US.
IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET, AS YOU ALL KNOW, PROBABLY AT THE CITY AS WELL, TRYING TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN TALENT.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE OFFER BENEFITS TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, NOT A VERY WELL KNOWN FACT, AND WE OFFER THEM FREE COLLEGE.
UH, SO IF YOU WORK WITH WALMART, YOU'RE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT WE CALL LIVE BETTER UNIVERSITY.
AND IT'S DONE THROUGH THE, THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS, WHERE WALMART IS, IS HEADQUARTERED, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A DEGREE WHILE WORKING FOR WALMART AT NO COST TO YOU.
UM, WE ALSO REALLY TRY TO TARGET VETS, STUDENTS, UH, IN, IN ALL ABILITIES.
UH, SO WE REALLY TRY TO BRING PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW DO WELL IN THESE JOBS.
WE HAVE INVESTED IN OUR WAGES.
WE'VE GROWN UP ABOUT 30% IN RECENT YEARS.
OUR AVERAGE WAGES, UH, AT THE STORE NOW 18 TO $20, UH, WHICH IS ALMOST TRIPLE THE, THE MINIMUM WAGE.
AND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE OFFERING OUR EMPLOYEES MORE THAN ANYTHING IS TRAINING, TRAINING AND MORE TRAINING.
SO WE'RE NOW DEVELOPING JOBS THAT WE DIDN'T REALIZE WERE GONNA BE PRESENT 5, 6, 7 YEARS AGO.
AND SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRAINING OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WANT TO GROW AND STAY WITH THE COMPANY.
THE LAST PIECE THAT I'LL MENTION BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO OUR TECHNICAL, UH, ENGINEERS AND OUR TECHNICAL ASPECTS IS, I DID WANNA POINT THIS OUT AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A PERCEPTION THAT BIG COMPANIES DON'T, DON'T CARE, DON'T WANT TO GIVE BACK.
UH, WALMART HAS A REALLY PROUD, UH, HISTORY IN TERMS OF GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE A MAJOR DISASTER, WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT WE CAN OFTEN LEAN IN EVEN SOONER THAN GOVERNMENTS CAN.
UH, WE HAVE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, WE HAVE STORES, WE HAVE TRUCKS.
UH, WE'RE ABLE TO, IN FACT, WE JUST RECENTLY RAN A, AN EXERCISE IN DALLAS AT ONE OF OUR STORES WHERE WE WANTED TO TEST, GOD FORBID THERE WAS A BIG EMERGENCY, HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD WE FEED IN ONE OF OUR PARKING LOTS? AND WE GOT UP UPWARD.
SOME 40,000 PEOPLE FED IN 24 HOURS.
UH, AN EXAMPLE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE IS A YEAR OR TWO AGO, MAYBE THREE, UM, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM CHERYL DE LEONE AND SAID, HEY, IVAN, WE'RE UNDER A, A BOILED WATER NOTICE.
WE REALLY NEED SOME BOTTLED WATER.
AND I WAS LIKE, SURE, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING? A COUPLE PALLETS.
18 WHEELERS, UH, SAID, SURE, NO PROBLEM.
WITHIN ABOUT 12 HOURS, WE HAD A COUPLE OF 18 WHEELERS OF WATER DONATED TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
I DON'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE, WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY PROVEN THIS IS NOT JUST A SLIDE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH, UH, OUR CITIES WHERE WE OPERATE.
AND FROM THERE I'LL THROW THE TOUGH QUESTIONS TO CAROLYN WHO SHE GETS TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE DESIGN OF THE STORE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY CORPORATE TYPE QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
SO CAROLINE, AND WE DO HAVE A CARD FOR CAROLINE.
WHO WISHES JUST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, MS. KOCH? YES, SIR.
WE'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
ADDRESS IS 61 60 WARREN PARKWAY IN FRISCO, TEXAS.
UM, SO AS I'VE MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE, UH, FOR AN SUP REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR OUR FUEL STATION USE AND OUR DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET STORE, WHICH IS ABOUT 50,000 SQUARE FEET, SO SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN THE SUPER CENTERS YOU ALREADY HAVE IN TOWN, OR EVEN SOME OF YOUR LARGER GROCERIES LIKE KROGER OR HEB.
UM, I JUST WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF OUR SITE PLAN AND SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ITEMS ON THIS SITE.
SO HERE ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE WHITE BOX IS THE, THE GROCERY STORE ITSELF.
UM, THE PHARMACY DRIVE THROUGH AND PHARMACY INSIDE OF THE STORE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
THE ONLINE GROCERY PICKUP, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 22 PARKING SPACES.
THEY'RE LOCATED ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO AGAIN, LIKE IVAN MENTIONED, IF WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT WANT TO COME JUST ORDER THEIR GROCERIES THROUGH THE APP OR ONLINE, THEY'LL PULL INTO ONE OF THOSE 22 SPACES, PICK UP THEIR GROCERIES AND LEAVE.
THEN WE HAVE THE FUEL STATION THERE, UM, ALONG RIDGE.
SO IT'S A, UH, EIGHT PUMP FUEL STATION.
CAN SERVICE ABOUT 16 CARS AT ONE TIME WITH ABOUT A 1500 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE.
ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO THE FUEL STATION, UM, IN COM, COMBINATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET IS JUST CONVENIENCE TO THE CUSTOMERS.
FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I GO GROCERY SHOPPING ON SATURDAYS, THAT'S WHEN I FILL UP MY CAR WITH GAS.
SO I CAN KNOCK OUT TWO TRIPS AT ONCE.
UM, ALSO IF YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY
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TO WORK OR FROM WORK AND YOU JUST NEED THAT MAYBE ONE ITEM, MILK, EGGS, UH, BREAD, YOU CAN GET THAT FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE VERSUS HAVING TO GO TO ONE OF THE LARGER GROCERY STORES OR EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET AND GET OUTTA YOUR CAR, DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER CUSTOMERS.WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UM, OPEN SPACE AMENITIES AS STAFF, UH, PRESENTED THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT DOES HAVE A PERGOLA SEATING, SOME BENCHES, SO AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR, FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO USE THOSE, UM, OR ANY OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EV PARKING, UH, LOCATED AT THIS SITE.
SO THE EV PARKING IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE PICKUP PARKING.
IT'LL BE LOCATED HERE ALONG THIS.
UM, AND THAT IS FOR ANYONE IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY TO USE.
FROM A LANDSCAPE PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE PROVIDING OVER 20% OF THE SITE IS OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPE, GREEN AREA, UM, THAT IS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SITE AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WITH A LARGE PORTION BEING IN THE REAR OF OUR SITE WITH OUR DETENTION.
BUT THAT ALSO ACTS AS A BUFFER, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY THERE TO OUR WEST.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE EASEMENT, UM, THAT, UH, MR. ANDERSON MENTIONED AND OUR DETENTION POND, WE HAVE ABOUT A 400 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE STORE TO ANY OF THAT, ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE ALSO PLANNING, UH, RIGHT NOW ALL OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE KIND OF SHOWN THERE WILL REMAIN AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
WE HAVE ASKED FOR, UM, A VARIANCE FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE ALONG LAKE RIDGE AT ADJACENT TO THE FUEL.
UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE'S AN EXISTING 15 FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT WITH A WATERLINE IN IT.
UM, WE DO NOT PLANT TREES IN, IN CITY EASEMENTS OR ADJACENT TO WATERLINES BECAUSE THAT DOES CAUSE MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE ROOTS.
WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY ISSUE TO THAT WATERLINE THAT'S SERVING THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.
SO THERE'S JUST NOT SUFFICIENT ROOM TO PLANT ALL OF OUR STREET TREES IN THAT AREA.
HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL MEETING THE CODE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF TREES ON THE SITE BY PLACING THEM ALONG OUR ENTRY DRIVE PRIMARILY, UM, THEREBY THE FUEL STATION.
SO OVERALL, WE ARE PROVIDING THE CODE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING FOR THE SITE AND ARE PROVIDING ABOVE THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AREA IN GENERAL.
I KNOW TRAFFIC IS, IS A BIG, UM, ISSUE.
UM, THERE IS, THIS IS AS MENTIONED, A VERY EXISTING, UH, HEAVILY TRAFFICKED CORRIDOR.
AND WHILE WE CAN'T SOLVE EXISTING TRAFFIC CONCERNS, I DO WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'VE EVALUATED AND HOW WE ARE MITIGATING FOR THE TRAFFIC WE WILL BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO ONE THING TO NOTE, THIS AREA IS MARKED AND IS ZONED AS COMMERCIAL.
SO WHILE WE ARE BRINGING A COMMERCIAL USE, WHAT WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU IS THE FUEL STATION.
THE FUEL STATION ITSELF IN, UH, CONJUNCTION WITH A GROCERY STORE ACTUALLY GENERATES LESS TRAFFIC.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A GROCERY STORE OR A FUEL STATION, UM, AND WE'VE DONE OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, A BIG PART OF THE TRAFFIC DRIVER IS WHAT WE CALL BYPASS TRAFFIC.
SO FOR THE GROCERY STORE ITSELF, ABOUT 25% OF THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES TO THE STORE IS PEOPLE THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE ROAD.
SO IT'S, YOU TOOK YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, YOU WENT, DECIDED TO GO GET YOUR GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU DROPPED 'EM OFF, BEFORE YOU WENT HOME, YOU WERE ON YOUR WAY HOME FROM WORK, YOU STOPPED AND GET YOUR GROCERIES.
SO YOU WERE ALREADY ON IN THESE CORRIDORS.
FOR THE FUEL STATION ITSELF, THAT'S ABOUT 50%.
SO THAT'S PEOPLE AGAIN, ALREADY ON THE ROAD GETTING GAS TO OR FROM WORK, FROM SCHOOL.
THEY'RE GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE ALREADY LIKE MYSELF AND GETTING FUEL.
SO WHILE IT, WE WILL BE GENERATING TRAFFIC, UM, A LOT OF IT IS TRAFFIC THAT IS ALREADY ON THE ROAD AND THE WAY THAT WE ARE MITIGATING THE TRAFFIC.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO US TO PROVIDE A SAFE, UM, DEVELOPMENT BOTH FOR EXISTING CU YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE ENTERING, EXITING THE SITE.
SO WHAT WE'VE EVALUATED IS, UM, AND WE'RE PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IS, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE ARE PROPOSING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UM, THERE AT BLANCO DRIVE.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CUSTOMERS COMING TO THE STORE HAVE A SAFE WAY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS INTERSECTION.
SO THERE'S ALREADY A FULL, UH, MEDIAN OPENING HERE WITH THE NECESSARY TURN LANES THAT WAS PLANNED FOR CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
BUT WE FEEL AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF MODERATE THAT TRAFFIC AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS ARE DONE IN A SAFE, IN A SAFE MOVEMENT.
ALSO, ALL OF OUR DRIVEWAYS WILL HAVE DECELERATION LANES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CORRIDOR, BOTH ALONG CAMP CAMP WISDOM AND LAKERIDGE ITSELF, NONE OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL HAS ACTUALLY RIGHT TURNED OR DECELERATION LANES
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INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY.SO WHAT THAT MEANS TODAY FOR ANY OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TURN, THEY ARE SLOWING DOWN IN THE MAIN LANE OF TRAFFIC.
TO DO SO, WE ARE PROVIDING DECELERATION LANES SO THAT ALL THE CUSTOMERS COMING INTO THE SITE WILL HAVE A LANE TO GET OVER DESAL AND THEN TURN IN, WHICH PROVIDES ALSO A SAFER TURNING MOVEMENT.
ALSO WITH CAMP WISDOM, UM, BEING, YOU KNOW, A A HEAVY TRAFFIC CORRIDOR, THERE IS AN EXISTING MEDIAN OPENING, UM, THAT WE ARE SHOWING CONNECTING TO HERE TO THE NORTH.
SO AS THAT STANDS TODAY, CUSTOMERS FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE THE FROST BANK OR TO THE NORTH, CAN MAKE FREE MOVEMENT IN THAT MEDIAN.
UM, THEY CAN TURN LEFT IN, THEY CAN TURN LEFT OUT, BUT WITH CONGESTION AT THE INTERSECTION BOTH TODAY, UM, AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO EVALUATE, UM, WHAT THAT MEDIAN OPENING SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO WE ARE RESTRICTING THAT ACCESS AT THAT MEDIAN OPENING.
SO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT OUT.
SO THAT WAY YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SITTING IN THAT MEDIAN TRYING TO PLAY FROGGER TO TRY TO GET LEFT OUT.
UM, THEY WILL NEED TO COME DOWN TO THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION TO A CONTROLLED ACCESS POINT IN ORDER TO LEAVE AND THEN HEAD WEST ON CAMP WISDOM.
WE ALSO HEARD, UM, IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT LIGHTING WAS A CONCERN.
UM, A FEW JUST TALKING POINTS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTING ON THIS SITE.
SO WE WILL BE SUBMITTING A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY STAFF.
WE WILL MEET ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING, INCLUDING CUTOFF AT THE PROPERTY LINES, UH, SHIELDING OF THE FIXTURES.
UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET, UH, HAS SHORTER POLES THAN A SUPERCENTER AS WELL.
SO THE, THE POLES ON THE SIDE ARE ABOUT 10 FEET SMALLER THAN YOU WOULD SEE AT A WALMART, SUPERCENTER OR ANY LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN JUST LIKE WALMART HAS, UM, BEEN INNOVATIVE AND THEY CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE TECHNOLOGY, UM, INSIDE THE STORE, THEY ALSO HAVE DONE THAT IN THEIR LIGHTING.
SO THEY NOW USE LED LIGHTING WHERE, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE MUCH MORE ABLE TO CONTROL WHERE THAT LIGHT GOES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LIGHTING WHAT WE WANT TO LIGHT, BUT WE ARE NOT LIGHTING THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BRINGING A UNIQUE STORE TO THE CITY.
UM, AS IVAN MENTIONED, THIS IS A ONLY THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET, UM, THAT'LL BE IN THE DFW AREA AND WE WANT IT TO BE UNIQUE AND WE WANT IT TO BE SPECIAL.
THIS IS MORE A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET IS MORE MEANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT THE REGION.
AND SO WE WANT THIS TO, TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO BE SOMETHING EVERYBODY CAN BE PROUD OF.
SO JUST A FEW, FEW THINGS AND STAFF HAS ALREADY POINTED A LOT OF THESE OUT.
UM, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS FACADE.
UM, BUT THE FEW THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE, UM, THAT YOU WILL NOT SEE ON ANY OF THE OTHER STORES IN THE AREA IS THIS LARGE METAL AWNING THAT IS AT THE FRONT OF THE STORE.
UM, THE CLEAR STORY WINDOWS ABOVE THE VEGETABLE TO ALLOW LIGHT INTO THAT VEGETABLE AND TO, TO HELP WITH THE GLAZING.
WE ARE USING A BRICK VENEER, UM, FOR ALL SIDES OF THE FACADE.
SO OUR TREATMENTS DO GO AROUND ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
AND WE'VE ALSO USED DIFFERENT VARIATIONS AND COLORS OF THAT BRICK VENEER TO KIND OF BREAK UP THE FACADE.
UM, BOTH VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY.
WE HAVE THE STONE BASE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN ALSO HAVE SOME VERTICAL STONE ELEMENTS.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE THESE ADDITIONAL KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES WITH THE STARS.
UM, SOME KIND OF WALL SCONCES TO PROVIDE SOME ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING.
AND THEN FOR THE FUEL STATION, UM, WE'VE BROUGHT THOSE SAME ELEMENTS OVER TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
A STAFF MENTIONED A, A PROTOTYPICAL WALMART FUEL STATION, AS I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS WHOLE FRONT WALL HERE WHERE THAT SPARK IS WOULD BE BLUE.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE LIMITED AND A REDUCED, REDUCED THAT BLUE SO THAT THE FUEL STATION, UM, THE CONVENIENCE STORE DOES FIT IN BETTER WITH THE OVERALL AESTHETIC AND WITH IT BEING THE, THE BUILDING THAT RIGHT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE ROAD.
SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
YOU MAY SAY THAT FOR THE END, MS. COOK.
YEAH, WE MAY SAY THAT FOR THE END, MS. COOK FOR PEOPLE, BUT FOR THE DEVELOP, ARE YOU THE LAST PRESENTER FOR THE DEVELOPER? YES.
BUT THEN WE HAVE 10 MINUTES, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO NOBODY'S SPEAKING BEHIND YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COOK? COMMISSIONER SMITH, MS. COOK, THANK YOU FOR COMMENT AND EXPLAINING ALL THAT TO US.
UH, THERE ARE TWO WALMARTS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
UH, DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO CLOSE ONE OF THOSE WALMARTS OR ARE YOU GONNA JUST BE A THIRD WALMART?
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UM, NO, THERE ARE NOT PLAN.THOSE ARE TWO EXISTING SUPER CENTERS.
THERE ARE NOT ANY PLANS TO CLOSE THE SUPER CENTERS.
THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET TO SERVE MUCH MORE OF A COMMUNITY LEVEL WHILE THE SUPER CENTERS ARE ALONG HIGHWAYS AND SERVE MUCH MORE OF A REGIONAL LEVEL.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE INTEND FOR THERE TO BE THREE WALMARTS.
IT JUST SEEMS A BIT INTERESTING THAT, AND THEY'RE SO CLOSE IN PROXIMITY, YOU KNOW, YOUR CUSTOMER, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO SERVICE THAT.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE, THEY'RE BOTH VERY CLOSE IN THE AREA.
I I CAN'T ANSWER ANY OF THE FINANCIAL BUSINESS MODEL MM-HMM
UM, BUT I, I WILL SAY AGAIN, THE COURT.
NO, I I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.
UM, THIS AREA IS GROWING TREMENDOUSLY AS WELL.
UM, IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME TO CONSTRUCT A STORE TO GET UP AND RUNNING TO GET A MANAGEMENT TEAM.
SO WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN BE PROFITABLE, UH, AT THIS LOCATION, UH, WITH A GROWTH IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND WITH THIS PARTICULAR MODEL, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IN A SUPERCENTER AT THIS LOCATION.
AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A GOOD VENTURE.
BUT WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN, IN, IN THIS FACILITY BEING BUSINESS, UH, VIABLE.
WELL, THIS, THIS AREA IS A VERY NICE, QUIET, COMFORTABLE AREA AND I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE ALMOST 30 YEARS MYSELF, AND WE JUST DON'T WANT PROBLEMS AND WE DON'T WANT TO IT TO TURN INTO NOT SO NICE AREA.
AND, UH, WE, WE WANTED WALKABLE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK THEIR DOGS AND THEY, AND THEY, THEY RUN AND WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GONNA TRANSPIRE.
YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE BUILDING UP, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE IT IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
'CAUSE RIGHT NEXT TO SOME GORGEOUS HOMES RIGHT NEXT TO IT, ALL THAT BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING.
AND PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF THEIR HOUSES.
THEY'RE PROUD OF WHERE THEY ARE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE MORE OF A, A DISRUPTION THAN ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY HEAVY ON CAMP WITH SOME, WHEN I MOVED TO THIS AREA, IT WAS CAMP WISDOM WAS A DIRT ROAD.
THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN HERE.
SO WE ARE PROUD OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
WE WANNA KEEP GRAND PRAIRIE SAFE, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE, UH, COMFORTABLE, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE SO LONG.
AND WE, WE, WE HEAR THAT WE SHARE YOUR, YOUR PASSION, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, OUR FOLKS ARE GONNA LIVE AND WORK HERE AS WELL.
UM, WE DO NOTICE THAT THIS FACILITY IS, OR, OR THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR A GROCERY STORE HERE THAT WE COULD BUILD A GROCERY STORE.
UH, WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL USES THAT WE'VE ASKED, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED ALSO NO OVERNIGHT OPERATIONS, NO SUPER CENTERS, LIMITED TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, ABSOLUTELY UNDER UNDERSTAND AND TRYING TO BE AS RESPONSIVE.
AND YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT TO BE A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.
UH, WE DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN LOPEZ AS WELL, AND HE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, BE AS TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN IN THOSE MEETINGS.
ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, GIVE THE INFORMATION, LET THE COMMISSION MAKE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR JUDGMENT.
UH, HE ASKED US TO CALL THE HOA PRESIDENTS AS WELL MM-HMM
AND SOME OF THE PID PRESIDENTS, WHICH WE DID AS WELL.
UH, WE HAD A ONE PAGER CIRCULATING.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO REACH ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY, BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
SO HEAR YOU LOUD AND KOREAN AND WE ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THAT.
SO WE'VE READ THROUGH MOST OF THESE POSITIONS.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THESE? AND IS THIS TYPICAL OF A WALMART TO HAVE THIS ONE AS OPPOSITION? UM, TYPICAL IS, IS IS WHENEVER YOU'RE THIS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO ADDRESS.
LET ME GIVE IT MY BEST SHOT, BEING VERY RESPECTFUL BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK TO EVERY SINGLE ONE.
UH, WE JUST HEARD THE PRESENTATION.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS TYPICAL THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A GREENFIELD SITE LIKE THIS IN A HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL AREA, UM, GROWING AREA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OPERATING ISSUES.
UH, WE HOPE WE ANSWERED SOME OF THOSE, UH, TODAY.
IF THERE'S STILL REMAINING QUESTIONS ON WHAT ELSE WE COULD, UH, THIS SITE IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS OUR ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE WAY THAT IT IS ZONED ON THE WAY THAT IT IS MARKETED ON A SELLER WANTING TO SELL THAT PROPERTY.
UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER COMPETITORS THAT HAVE HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVEN'T PUT THEIR CAPITAL TO WORK ON IT.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WILLING TO BRING THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT SOMETHING IN THERE, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR ELSE IT'S, IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP AS OUR ASSESSMENT.
DO YOU REALIZE HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE NEXT WALMART? OH, YES SIR.
I MEAN, WE RAN ALL THE, WE, WHAT WE CALL THEM IS COMPS.
UH, THAT, THAT GIVES US A SENSE OF HOW MUCH SALES OUR STORES ARE DOING, UH, HOW MUCH SALES THIS MARKET WOULD DO.
COULD IT SUSTAIN A SUPERCENTER? IT COULD NOT CONTAIN A, UH, CONTAIN A SUPERCENTER, COULD IT CONTAIN A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET, WHICH IS A FOURTH OF THE SIZE, LESS THAN A FOURTH OF THE TRAFFIC, UH, IN TERMS OF FOOT TRAFFIC.
AND YES, IT CAN, THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO, UH, TRY TO BRING THIS MODEL IN RESPECT OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, IF WE TRY TO BRING YOU A SUPER CENTER INTO THIS AREA, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AS
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PRUDENT EITHER FOR US OR FOR YOU ALL.SO, UH, I'M GONNA JUMP AHEAD OF COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN HERE.
WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME, SIR? UH, MY LAST NAME IS JAIME, LIKE THE FIRST NAME, BUT THAT'S MY LAST NAME.
SO, SO MR. JAIME, UH, I JUST WANTED TO REFERENCE FOR THE AUDIENCE, UH, COMMISSIONER LOCKHART REFERRED TO OUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS THAT WERE UP HERE BEFORE THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE HAS SEEN THEM.
IT WAS ALMOST A FULL REAM OF PAPER.
SO WHAT, THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER AUGHT WAS REFERRING TO.
UH, THAT IS A LOT OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS BY THE WAY.
UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO NONE OF YOUR OPERATIONS GAS CONVENIENCE STORE STORE WILL BE 24 HOURS.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUE ACTUALLY, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED.
I THINK THE FUEL CENTER IS 24 7.
SO THE, THE PUMP, THE FUEL PUMPS THEMSELVES ARE OPEN 24 7.
THE CONVENIENCE STORE WILL FOLLOW THE STORE HOURS AND WILL NOT BE OPEN 24 7.
WILL THE CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE WALMART HAVE THE SAME HOURS? YES.
AND WHAT ARE THOSE HOURS AGAIN? THEY'RE CURRENTLY 7:00 AM TO 11:00 PM UM, WHAT ABOUT DELIVERIES? DELIVERIES CAN OCCUR OVERNIGHT.
UM, SO, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONE TO TWO TRUCKS PER DAY.
THEY CAN ARRIVE DURING THE DAY, THEY CAN ARRIVE AT NIGHT.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE NEEDS OF THE STORE.
SO IN OTHER WALMARTS, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS 'CAUSE I TRAVEL A LOT, BUT, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE A POLICY OF WELCOMING PEOPLE WITH CAMPERS TO STAY IN YOUR PARKING LOTS OVERNIGHT.
IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN ON THIS PLACE? NO, SIR.
SO WE DID, WE HAVE, SO LET ME, LET ME ANSWER IT TWO WAYS.
WE TRY TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT FOLKS THAT COME IN WITH CAMPERS OR 18 WHEELERS IN OUR SUPERCENTERS.
WHENEVER THEY COME IN, WE USUALLY GIVE THEM ABOUT TWO HOURS TO COME IN, SHOP, EAT, REST UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN GO.
NOW, NOW LET ME ALSO ANSWER IT THIS WAY.
MOST OF OUR CITIES NOW HAVE ORDINANCES REGULATING THAT.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT WE OPERATE UNDER THE CITY'S ORDINANCES, UH, AS IT RELATES TO RETAIL.
SHOULD THERE BE, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFICULT TO CONTROL PEOPLE BREAKING THE RULES.
UM, IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN REGULATE SO WE CAN WORK ON IT TOGETHER.
UH, I MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ABOUT HOW THAT GETS RE BECAUSE I JUST, I JUST HAVE THIS FEAR OF 18 WHEELERS AND CAMPERS PARKING THEIR, RUNNING THEIR ENGINES ALL NIGHT.
THAT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A VERY WELCOME THING.
YEAH, IF I CAN I ANSWER I GUESS ON THE 18 WHEELER PORTION.
SO ALL OF THE DELIVERY TRUCKS, UM, WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY ACTUALLY PLUG, I'M, I'M, I'M, YEAH, THE DELIVERY TRUCKS.
OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT, TALKING ABOUT GUYS THAT PARKING TRUCK HAVE A SIESTA GOTCHA.
DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY FOR GRAND PRAIRIE? BECAUSE I THINK YOU KIND OF SKIRTED THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, NO, THE, SO THE REASON, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
LEMME GET YOU THAT ANSWER BECAUSE I KNOW HERE'S, HERE'S WHERE I'M SPEAKING FROM.
UH, WE HAD AN ISSUE LIKE THIS IN LANCASTER, NOT FAR AWAY FROM HERE.
AND THE CITY WAS TICKETING TRUCKERS.
WE WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE, UH, OFF THE PROPERTY AND EVENTUALLY WE DECIDED TO WORK TOGETHER.
THEY PUT AN ORDINANCE AND WE WERE WORKING ON IT TOGETHER.
SO, I, I APOLOGIZE IF I CAME ACROSS AS SKIRTING THE QUESTION.
LEMME GET YOU A PRECISE ANSWER OF WHAT OUR CORPORATE POLICY IS.
I DON'T HAVE THAT CORPORATE POLICY.
LET ME ALSO REVIEW THE CITY'S GUIDELINES ON 18 WHEELER SPECIFICALLY.
BUT I THINK WHAT I CAN SAY CATEGORICALLY IS WE DO NOT WANT TO DISTURB THE PIECE OF CUSTOMERS.
IF WE HAVE TO RESTRICT ANY TYPE OF PRACTICE LIKE THAT WE WOULD.
SO, AND, AND COMMISSIONER TRAPMAN, I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR BACK IN JUST A SECOND.
I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ASK, UM, THE, UH, TODAY'S THE 25TH.
WHEN DID YOU MEET COUNCILMAN LOPEZ? RYAN, DO YOU REMEMBER? I CAN'T TELL YOU PRECISELY.
LEMME SAY ONE TO TWO MONTHS AGO.
IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE ON THE PRECISE TIME.
WHEN DID YOU APPROACH THE HOA PRESIDENTS WITHIN THAT SAME TIME? WITHIN ABOUT, WITHIN ABOUT THE SAME TIMEFRAME.
AND WE HAVE A LOG, SIR, THAT WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
I THINK WE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCILMAN, UH, TO, TO CHECK THE BOXES.
I BELIEVE WE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER, WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, TO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY PLANNER.
BUT YOU DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THE HOA PEOPLE JUST THREE OR FOUR DAYS AGO.
YOU REACHED OUT TO THEM FOR OVER FOUR WEEKS, CORRECT.
TO THE PRESIDENTS? TO BE FAIR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THAT INFORMATION.
I, I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT DISSEMINATED, BUT WE DID REACH OUT TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE LIST.
WE WERE PROVIDED AS CRITICAL TO BE CONTACTED.
I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER KAMAN, IF YOU DID.
SO YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED ONE OF THEM YOU HAVE NOT YET PURCHASED, IT'S STILL UNDER CONTRACT? THAT'S CORRECT, MA'AM.
AND JUST, UM, AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE STACK BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS PARAMOUNT AT THIS TIME WITH 300 RESPONSES IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT GOES INTO OUR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, WALMART, SHE MENTIONED
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TWO NEW ONES, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO IN THE METROPLEX.IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? YES, CORRECT.
WITHIN THIS AREA, AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER, UM, SMITH SAID, YOU HAVE CEDAR HILL, GRAND PRAIRIE, UM, HIGHWAY 1 61 UPTOWN.
IN ACTUALITY, WALMARTS, HOW MANY WALMART NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS DO YOU HAVE? BECAUSE I CAN THINK OF THE ONE ON DEBBIE, WHICH IS NOT VERY FAR AS WELL.
DEBBIE AND 1 61, MATLOCK, DEBBIE AND MATLOCK.
SO HOW MANY OTHER ONES DO YOU HAVE IN THE AREA? IN THE AREA? I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO, I KNOW WE HAVE 96.
SO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WE HAVE 500 SUPER CENTERS.
AND ABOUT NINE, I'M SORRY, IN ABOUT 100 NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS.
IT'S ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO ONE RATIO.
UM, I DON'T HAVE, IF YOU GIVE ME A PRECISE KIND OF LIKE JUST THE REGION, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT PRECISE NUMBER.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY A 10 MILE RADIUS.
YOU, WE CAN GET BACK TO, YOU CAN TAKE RADIUS HOW MANY WE HAVE.
AND THEN JUST FOR MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE AUDIENCE, I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE ANOTHER THING THAT I SAW, UH, REPEATEDLY IN THE STACK WAS, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS BRING THIS, WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT BRING FORWARD ANY RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT GOES ON A LOT.
I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE DO AS JUNE INTRODUCED, THIS IS BY RIGHT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THIS WITHOUT IT EVER COMING TO US.
IT IS COMING TO US BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL PIECES THAT ARE THERE.
SO WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WE ARE COM COM COMPELLED BY COMPLIANCE TO ADDRESS IT AS SOMETHING THAT IS FEASIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR WHEN WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, UM, YOU SAID ABOUT YOUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, UM, THAT THEY HAD REACHED OUT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DIDN'T REACH OUT RESIDENT BY RESIDENT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS COMING, THIS KIND OF RESPONSE.
IS THERE A RATIONALE? YEAH, I THINK I CAN, I CAN ANSWER FOR THEM SINCE THEY REPORT TO ME.
UM, WHAT WE USUALLY DO IS WE TRY TO, TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT A CITY HAS.
SO WE WILL USUALLY REACH OUT TO A CITY FIRST CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE CODE, WE GO THROUGH OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS USUALLY THE BIG PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S, THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S ANNOUNCED.
WELL, YOU REACH OUT TO THE PROPER FOLKS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
LIKE WE REACHED OUT TO COUNCILMAN LOPEZ, UH, AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL REQUESTS? BUT THIS IS GENERALLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH THIS STILL NEEDS APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, UM, IS USUALLY THE WAY THAT WE ALERT THE, THE PUBLIC.
WE WILL SHARE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
THIS IS AFTER PNZ AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, THIS DOES PROJECT IS AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED.
IT'S GOTTA GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
THERE'S TIME BETWEEN THERE TO DO ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THOSE LETTERS WERE THERE ALSO UNTIL RECENTLY.
WE DIDN'T, UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS, WHAT THE, WHAT THE ANSWERS WERE.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS YOU POSED TODAY, WE WILL COME BACK WITH ANSWERS, UM, TO CITY COUNCIL.
YEAH, I I THINK THAT'S VERY CRITICAL.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT 300, 300 AND THAT'S NOT INCLUSIVE.
MAYBE EVERYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE DIDN'T EVEN SUBMIT, BUT 300.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UM, MOVING INTO THE AREA, YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE YOUR VOICE POSITIVELY HEARD WITH THOSE FOLKS SO THEY WOULDN'T HEAR THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THE OTHER PIECE IS, UM, ARE YOU'RE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY OR IS IT AN ACTUAL LAND LEASE? NO, IT'S A, IT'S, WE'RE IN CONTRACTOR PURCHASE TO PURCHASE.
AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER MS. COOK, TO YOUR POINT, UH, YOU SAID TRAFFIC ALREADY ON THE ROAD AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT HIT A NERVE BECAUSE UNLESS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED OUR PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED IT? NO, MA'AM.
BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO THERE TO GET HOME AS WELL.
PRAIRIE LIGHTS IS AN EXPERIENCE.
PLEASE DON'T MISINTERPRET MY, MY COMMENT, BUT IT IS TRAFFIC WRITTEN.
THE ENTIRE METROPLEX COMING INTO GRAND PRAIRIE TO SEE OUR BEAUTIFUL CHRISTMAS DISPLAY.
BUT AS FAR AS TRAFFIC ALREADY ON THE ROAD, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE.
SO FROM NOVEMBER UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, THAT'S WHERE WE AS CONSTITUENTS, AND I UNDERSTOOD FROM OUR TRAFFIC REPRESENTATIVE THAT YOU HAD NOT GOTTEN A TRAFFIC COUNT FROM THAT PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME.
YOU NEED TO GET THAT TRAFFIC COUNT BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU IT WOULD CHANGE WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING ONE LIGHT.
SO I'M GONNA PASS, I'M GONNA PASS IT DOWN, BUT MR. HUEY, I WILL SAY ONE THING.
I DON'T KNOW OF A MORE SOPHISTICATED PARTY THAN WALMART, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU WERE BEING DISINGENUOUS, BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER HELD A PUBLIC MEETING BEFORE P AND Z WITH PEOPLE.
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WE'VE HAD OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT ARE NOWHERE NEAR SOPHISTICATED AS YOU GUYS THAT REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS AND HAVE A, A PUBLIC MEETING.I KNOW THAT MR. LOPEZ GAVE YOU THE NAMES OF THE, UM, THE HOA PRESIDENTS, BUT IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TO SOLICIT SOME ONE-ON-ONE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS CHAMBER NOW BEFORE THIS MEETING ITSELF.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE IF IT CAME ACROSS AS, UH, BEING DISINGENUOUS.
I, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT.
I WOULD SAY IT'S NORMAL PRACTICE TO NOT, BUT I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
UM, WE HAVE TO DO BETTER WITH RESIDENTS, UM, EXPRESSING CONCERNS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR HOME VALUES.
HAS THERE BEEN SOME SORT OF ANALYSIS ON PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS ON, ON, UM, THEIR VALUES AFTER THIS HAS GONE IN THERE? HAVE, THERE ARE SOME THAT I'M AWARE OF, UH, COMMISSIONER NOT AT THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IT ALSO DEPENDS SITE BY SITE.
UM, SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
THERE'S NOT INFORMATION I CAN GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
BUT IN THE PAST, IN OTHER LOCATIONS, WHAT HAS THE IMPACT BEEN? YOU SEE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU DO SEE SOME AREAS WHERE RETAIL COMES IN.
YOU MIGHT SEE SOME VERY ATTRACTIVE RETAIL, A STEAKHOUSE, UM, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT THAT DOES IMPROVE THE LIVABILITY OF A COMMUNITY WHERE MAYBE THERE WAS A FOOD DESERT WHERE, OR THERE WAS A RESTAURANT DESERT OR, YOU KNOW, IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE, WHAT ELSE DOES THE WALMART ATTRACT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST WHAT ELSE DOES WALMART, UH, ATTRACT? HOW WELL IS TRAFFIC HANDLED? ALL THE SAME, ALL THE SAME ISSUES THAT KIND OF BUILD UPON EACH OTHER, WHICH IS, IF THIS CAN BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IS ADDITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS CAN BE DONE IN A WAY THAT TRAFFIC IS HANDLED, THAT IT ATTRACTS ATTRACTIVE RETAIL.
I THINK IT HAS A, A VERY BIG POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES.
IF IT'S NOT DONE RIGHT, THEN I THINK YOU COULD SEE THE OPPOSITE.
SO I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON BOTH OF US AND STAFF THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I SEE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS, WITH EVERYTHING COMING IN, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIVE THERE.
AND TY EXPRESSED LOTS OF GOOD POINTS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST WANNA REITERATE SOMETHING THAT SHE HAD SAID.
I KNOW THIS IS, EVERYBODY'S VERY UNHAPPY WITH THIS.
BUT LIKE SHE SAID, WHETHER IT BE WALMART, IT COULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT COMES IN AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T GET TO SEE OR VOTE ON, JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
BUT, UM, WILLING TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY TO HEAR WHAT ELSE THEY HAVE TO SAY.
UH, ANY OTHER, NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, MR. HY? MS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
SO WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS AND BEFORE WE PROCESS THOSE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS 'CAUSE WE HAVE, ON THE GOOD SIDE, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE HERE THAN WE NORMALLY DO.
AND I GOTTA SAY IT'S VERY NICE FOR US WHETHER YOU'RE COMING TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT OR SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
I DO ALSO WANNA REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID, I THINK FROM THE PODIUM, WHICH IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD.
THE FINAL DISPOSITIVE FINAL VOTE WILL HAPPEN WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAKE SURE YOU ATTEND THAT MEETING AS WELL.
AND THEN FINALLY, JUST ON LOGISTICS, USUALLY YOU GET ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, SO I'M GONNA LIMIT THAT 'CAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY TO SPEAK THAT WANTS TO HAVE IT, THAT WANTS TO, EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, I WANNA GIVE THEM RIGHT TO SPEAK.
BUT I'M GONNA LIMIT IT TO THREE MINUTES AND I'LL GIVE MR. FCO, I, I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE WE GAVE THE OWNER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES, THAT WE SHOULD GIVE EACH, UM, PERSON WHO'S SI SIGNED UP.
ARE THERE 20 CARDS THERE? I'M SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE 20 CARDS.
'CAUSE I WAS THINKING WE MIGHT BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT, BUT, OKAY.
YEAH, SO I'M SORRY I TAKE THAT BACK.
THE OWNER GOT FIVE MINUTES, SO YOU GUYS WILL GET FIVE MINUTES, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU ABOUT A 32ND, UH, WARNING BEFORE YOU GET TO YOUR TIME.
I'M GUESSING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW WHO SAYS COMMENTS? YES.
UH, DEAN STRAKA WISHES, UH, TO NOTE HIS SUPPORT.
UM, HE SAID HE CAN SPEAK IF, IF NEEDED.
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LATRICE HAYES WISHES TO NOTE HER OPPOSITION ON THIS ITEM AND WILL SPEAK IF NEEDED.OKAY, IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD MA'AM, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALRIGHT, I'LL, HELLO EVERYONE.
AND I RESIDE AT 2 4 3 9 BO BLANCO DRIVE.
SO I AM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED WALMART.
UM, I AM FURIOUS
WALMART COMING
SO YOU COME FROM THE JOE POOL LAKE AND YOU TRY AND GET TO CAMP WISDOM AND LAKE RIDGE.
UM, YOU ADD A WALMART WITH GAS PUMPS, YOU'VE ADDED ANOTHER 15, 20 MINUTES TO YOUR COMMUTE.
AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO.
THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN BLANCO, TURN ON B STREET, CUT THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE CHILDREN, WE HAVE THAT'S A BUS STOP, RIGHT AT BLANCO.
SO I CAN'T ONLY IMAGINE THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND ISSUES WE HAVE.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S A HILL, IT ISN'T JUST A STRAIGHT STREET, IT'S A HILL.
SO WHEN YOU COME DOWN THAT HILL, IF THE BUS IS THERE AND THEIR STOP SIGN OUT, GOD KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE KIDS UP THERE.
NOT TO MENTION, UM, THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE.
UM, WE TALK ABOUT PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
THE ACTIVITY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THE BOATS, EVERYTHING THAT'S FLYING OFF THE BOATS ENDS UP IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ON OUR STREETS, YES, WE FIND EVERYTHING FROM CLOTHES TO ANYTHING THAT'S ON A BOAT THAT SHOULD BE SECURED OR THE BACK OF A TRUCK, IT ENDS UP ON THE STREET.
WE WALK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE RIDE OUR BIKES.
THIS IS JOE POOL LAKE AND CEDAR HILL ON THE OTHER SIDE, PEOPLE CYCLE.
SO WHAT DOES IT DO WHEN YOU ADD THIS TO OUR COMMUNITY? IT DISRUPTS THE WHOLE THING.
A A A STORE, A WALMART COULD COME, BUT THIS GAS STATION AND ALL OF THIS EXTRA WE COULD DO WITHOUT.
AND FURTHERMORE, WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER WALMART? I HAVE, THERE'S A WALMART TWO MILES, TWO AND A HALF MILES FROM BLANCO.
I'VE WALKED IT AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON 1 61.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING BULLIED BY WALMART.
I DON'T WANNA FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT WALMART ANYWAY.
UM, YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL I'M FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 30 YEARS AND NO, IT IS NOT NINE LANES.
IT IS NOT NINE LANE, NINE LANES ON LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY OR CAMP WISDOM.
SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PLEASE CLEARLY DOCUMENT THAT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, CONCERN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
PLEASE TAKE NOTE TO WHAT WE ARE SAYING.
WE IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
MOST OF US HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN, WE ARE NOT IN A DESERT.
WE ARE NOT IN A DESERT FOOD DESERT.
LET ME JUST STATE FOR THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
WE GO TO TARGET, WE KNOW WHERE WALMART IS.
WE HAVE KROGER, WE HAVE TWO KROGER'S.
SO, AND ALDI, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE STORES.
WE ARE NOT REQUESTING A NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART AT THE CORNER OF LAKE RIDGE IN CAMP WISDOM.
LESLIE, UH, MAY WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
YES, MS. MAYS, IF YOU COULD COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
MY NAME IS LESLIE MAY AND I RESIDE AT 1 1 1 6 BEDBURY LANE, 7 5 0 5 2.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE A DEAD HORSE RIGHT HERE.
MY COMPLAINT WITH WALMART IS THE TRASH.
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OKAY, YOU CAN GO TO THE WALMART OVER HERE ON I 20 AND THERE'S TRASH BLOWING ALL OVER THE PLACE.NO ATTEMPT HAS EVER BEEN MADE TO PICK IT UP.
THERE ARE NO TRASH CANS FOR PEOPLE TO THROW THEIR TRASH IN.
THEY LEAVE THEIR TRASH IN THE BUGGIES AND WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, 60 MILE AN HOUR WINDS, IT WINDS UP ALL THE WAY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S MY COMPLAINT ABOUT WALMART.
THERE'S BEEN NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE STORES AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'VE TRIED TO CALL.
I'VE ALSO CALLED FOR ALDIS AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF TRASH.
NOBODY IS PICKING UP TRASH EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYMORE.
JESSICA ROACH FOR, UH, WISHES TO NOTE HER OPPOSITION, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
MADELINE WILSON, UH, WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK BECAUSE MY CONCERNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RAISED.
SEAN SPARKMAN WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
I LIVE ON THE PENINSULA AND NO, I'M NOT DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS, BUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY DAY IS, UM, I ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO COME UP HERE AND JUST SPEAK ABOUT ZONING THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT AFTER THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION OR PRESENTATION, UH, YOU KNOW, TOUTING WALMART'S GOOD NAME, I FELT LIKE I HAD TO SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, GRAND PRAIRIE HAS A HISTORY WITH WALMART AND IT'S NOT A GOOD ONE.
UM, SO FIRST I WANNA SPEAK TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
WALMART STORES HAVE A DOCUMENTED PATTERN IN CITY AFTER CITY OF GENERATING MORE POLICE CALLS FROM THEIR COMPARABLE RETAILERS.
ENOUGH THAT OUTSIDE EXPERTS HAVE DESCRIBED IT AS A SHIFTING OF PRIVATE SECURITY BURDEN TO THE PUBLIC POLICE BUDGETS.
I DON'T HAVE GRAND PRAIRIE'S FIGURES TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS HERE WOULD LOOK INTO THEM THEMSELVES.
I URGE YOU TO PULL CALL FOR CALL RECORDS FROM OUR EXISTING WALMART ON WEST I 20 A PLACE THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO AFTER DARK.
I'M SURE NONE OF YOU DO EITHER.
AND ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT SECURITY THEY WILL COMMIT TO SO IT DOESN'T COST OUR OFFICERS EVEN MORE.
SECOND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, I'D RECOMMEND YOU GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET OVER ON DEBBIE AND MATLOCK THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES AFTER DARK, AND THEY DON'T REPLACE THEIR LIGHTS.
IT IS DARK IN THAT PARKING LOT AND IT IS FULL OF TRASH.
AND IT IS CA THE SAME TYPE OF STORE THAT THEY WANT TO PUT HERE ON OUR STREET IN OUR CITY THAT I HAVE LIVED IN FOR 30 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY MOVED AWAY FROM THE OTHER WALMART THAT THEY PUT IN ON 1 61 ON PURPOSE.
THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON I MOVED.
I STAYED WITHIN GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT I MOVED AWAY.
THE THIRD REASON, THERE WAS A, A STUDY DONE THAT THE ATLANTIC REPORTED ON THAT FOUND THAT PEOPLE LIVING NEAR WALMART EXPERIENCED A HOUSEHOLD INCOME THAT FELL 6% OVER A DECADE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOUSE VALUES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S INCOMES.
IT AND THE STUDY, WHILE THE STUDY WAS DONE FOR SUPERCENTERS, RATHER THAN THE FIRM FORMAT PRESENTED HERE, IT HAS AFFECTED THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE SUPERCENTERS HERE.
AND I IMAGINE THAT THE MARKET STREET, THE MARKET CENTER OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, PARDON ME, WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR EFFECT.
SO I ASK THE, THE COMMISSIONERS, THE THE COUNCIL HERE TO RECOMMEND A DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF YOU WON'T, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD AT LEAST TABLE IT UNTIL WALMART CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO.
REBECCA JONES NOTES HER OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM AND STATES SHE, UH, WOULD SPEAK IF NEEDED.
MS. JONES, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? NOT NECESSARILY.
UH, REBECCA COURIER WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM I ACCEPT, OR WHATEVER I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY.
IF YOU CAN JUST STATE JUST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MS. REBECCA ER, R-E-B-E-K-H COURIER, 5 5 3 2 LAVACCA
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ROAD, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2 DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WALMART.I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF LAKE PARK, EMPHASIS ON THE WORD PARKS.
I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SHEFFIELD VILLAGE AND OTHER SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE MY HOUSE AS WELL AS LA THERESE'S ON THE MAP.
DIRT ROADS, ONE LANE EACH WAY.
NOTHING WAS ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE ARE A PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
UM, MOST OF OUR CONCERNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.
UH, FROM MY HOUSE, THERE'S A WALMART, TWO MILES, THERE'S A WALMART, FIVE MILES, THERE'S TWO KROGER'S, TOM THUMB, ALBERTSON'S, ALDI TARGET, SAM'S, BJ'S CVS WITH A DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY, UM, THREE GAS STATIONS.
UM, AND I CAN GET TO ALL THOSE IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES UNLESS SOMETHING'S HAPPENING AT JOE POOL LAKE.
I LIVE LESS THAN A MILE FROM JOE POOL LAKE.
CANNOT EVEN GET TO MY HOUSE DURING PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
CAN'T LEAVE MY HOUSE, CAN'T GET HOME.
WE'RE TALKING TWO TO THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
I ALREADY CAN'T GET TO MY OWN HOME WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME WITH NOTHING IN THE AREA.
PLEASE, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE WORD PARKS.
WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE LOVE OUR TREES.
YOUR MAP SHOWED A LOT OF GRAY AND A LOT OF BROWN.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE BUS SITUATION.
DO Y'ALL REALIZE THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS COME INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD? ARLINGTON, ISD, GRAND PRAIRIE, ISD MANSFIELD, ISD THAT IS A LOT OF CHILDREN.
WE DON'T WANT AN HEB, WE DON'T WANT WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS.
WE MOVED HERE AND BUILT HERE FOR A REASON.
LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO SAY? WE'RE ALREADY OVERPOPULATED.
OUR RESOURCES ARE ALREADY MAXED OUT.
THE 100, UM, AVAILABLE JOBS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ARE THE TWO WALMARTS CURRENTLY FULLY STAFFED AND APPROPRIATELY FULLY STAFFED? HOW IS THIS ONE GONNA BE FULLY STAFFED AND TAKEN CARE OF? ARE WE GONNA PUT TRASH CANS AT THIS WALMART WHERE WE DON'T HAVE 'EM AT THE OTHER TWO? ARE WE GONNA HAVE WORKING LIGHTS? UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
WHY CAN'T WE BUILD A PARK OR THE REC CENTER? THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER WE ALREADY VOTED FOR IN PROP PROP C.
WHERE DID THAT GO? UM, LET'S SEE.
I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK BEHIND ME.
UM, FIRE STATION AND TWO ERS ARE ON EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE ON LAKE RIDGE ALREADY.
SO THESE 18 WHEELERS ARE GOING TO BE BATTLING NOT ONLY HOURS LONG WORTH OF TRAFFIC, BUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES AS WELL.
HOW ARE WE GONNA GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THAT? ARE THEY GONNA PULL INTO THE WALMART PARKING LOT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE TO GO? I DON'T KNOW.
WHY BUILD IN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LAND IN GRAND PRAIRIE? LET'S SEE.
UM, IT WILL LOWER OUR PROPERTY VALUE.
THAT IS A FACT THAT ANYONE COULD LOOK UP, UM, APARTMENTS.
SEVERAL APARTMENTS ARE GOING IN ON LAKERIDGE THAT BRINGS WAY TOO MANY EXTRA CARS.
MS. COURIER? YES, YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
TO WRAP UP OUR SWIMMING POOL IN OUR HOA IS ALREADY GETTING VANDALIZED AND IT'S UNUSABLE.
OUR HOA PRESIDENT WAS NOT REACHED OUT TO, HE WAS SENT A SITE MAP THAT HE PAID NO ATTENTION TO.
MY NEIGHBOR RECEIVED A LETTER A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN I LIVE IN THE SAME PROXIMITY FROM WALMART THAT SHE DOES.
AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE EMPTY LAND STAY.
IF YOU NEED TO BUILD A WALMART, BUILD IT SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE.
VANESSA BAKER WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.MY ADDRESS IS 58 60, UH, SUNNY MEADOW LANE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
AND AGAIN, MOST PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES THAT I HAD, UH, WANTED TO ADDRESS.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN ONES IS CRIME.
AND ONE PERSON DIDN'T MENTION IT.
UM, BEING IN THE, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UH, STARTED OUT NEW AND BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
LOWER PRICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
BUT IT'S A KNOWN FACT THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN A LONG TERM EFFECT AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEIR CITIZENS.
AND WE DO HAVE AN, UM, WE ARE ARE BABY BOOMERS.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR A CLEAN, UM, POPULAR, YOU KNOW, CLEAN AIR.
I DO WALK, I DO WALK IN THAT AREA.
SO I AM A PERSON WHO WANTS THE AIR CLEAN AND THAT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD.
AND AS FAR AS THE CHILDREN, THAT IS A PLACE TO, UM, CONGREGATE.
YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL STOOLS THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN, AND IT'S GONNA BE LET'S MEET HERE AND SIT DOWN AND DO.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE LAKE WHO STAY IN THE CAMPERS AND STAY, UH, TENTS.
AND AGAIN, BEING IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR YEARS, A LOT OF TIME WHEN THINGS GET BAD, THEY HAVE TO LIVE ON THE LAKE AND IN A TENT AND A LOT OF UNKNOWN.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
BUT YES, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE THESE THINGS THAT'S AVAILABLE AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA INCREASE.
AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE, UM, CARTS EVERYWHERE.
AGAIN, THE TRASH REITERATING ON THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO, IN THE LONG TERM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.
AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN ON HOW ABOUT THE TRUCKS GOING THROUGH, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE IT IS AND WHAT TIME YOU'RE CREATING SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE, UM, EVEN CONSIDERED BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIGHTING PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
AND AGAIN, WHAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED AGAIN IS THE APARTMENTS WHICH HAVE BEEN, UH, BUILT ALL ALONG.
THEN YOU GO AROUND THE, UM, CIRCLE THAT THEY BUILD.
YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT RIGHT THERE IN AND OUT.
SO YOU'RE CREATING CONGESTION ON ONE END OF 360 RIGHT THERE.
AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE WE CAN BARELY GET ON OUT OF THAT AREA TO, TO GET OUT AND, AND I'VE BEEN, UM, A RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS.
AND AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE OTHER RESIDENT, IT WAS NO TARGET KNOW THIS.
SO WE, IT'S NOT A FOOD DESERT.
WE HAVE TARGET, WE HAVE ALDI, WE HAVE ALL THE, UH, ENOUGH, UM, TO GET WHAT WE NEED.
SO I CAN'T, I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE WHO STOOD HERE HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED ALL OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS.
BUT, UM, I MOVED TO GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THE ACTUAL LAKES AND THE TRAILS.
AND IF YOU, UM, PUT A WALMART, IT ACTUALLY GONNA CHANGE THE VIBE OF YOUR AREA.
I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU MOVED IN AND YOU SAY, I WANT, I'M MOVING HERE.
BE BECAUSE WE GOT THE LAKE, WE HAVE THE PARK, WE HAVE GOLF, AND WE HAVE ALL THE GREEN SPACE WHERE YOU'RE TAKING IT IN, YOU END UP BEING LIKE A NEW YORK OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE.
JUST WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ENJOY WHAT WE PAY FOR AND IT IS GONNA LOWER THE PROPERTY, UH, TAXES FOR SURE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST A KNOWN FACT.
IT IS GONNA LOWER IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO, IT'S JUST NOT
ONE, ONE IN, ONE OUT AND A PRAIRIE LIGHTS AND THE 4TH OF JULY, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A MESS.
WE CREATING SOMETHING THAT'S UNNECESSARY.
IT'S LIKE, DON'T EVEN START IT.
JUST SAY THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
'CAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA WORK BECAUSE IT'S BARELY WORKING RIGHT NOW.
WE LIKE PUTTING AT STREAMS, TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET IN AND OUTTA OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, I'VE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS AND I'M ENJOYING IT, BUT STILL, WE STILL COMPLAIN IN OUR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S JUST WE CAN'T EVEN GET OUT, OUT TURN THE CORNER BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHT RIGHT THERE.
AND AGAIN, I DO LIKE WALMART, BUT THE WALMART THAT WE HAVE IS IN A GOOD LOCATION.
CAROLYN WICKER SPEAK WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
I PRACTICED IN THIS CITY FOR 43 YEARS AND I FIND IT VERY CLOSE TO MY HEART.
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CHILDRESS DRIVE, WHICH IS A DIRECT STREET OFF OF BLANCO, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD FREQUENTLY, UM, DISCUSSED.I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKS AND I DO AGREE THAT THIS WALMART DOES NOT FIT NATURALLY INTO THE SCHEME OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR AREA.
I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF HESITATION IN THE PRECEDENCE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO Y'ALL ON THE VARIANCES THAT WALMART IS ASKING FOR.
THEY ARE ASKING FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF VARIANCES AND A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE VARIANCES.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS SETTING A GOOD PRECEDENCE FOR OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO COME INTO OUR AREA IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEAUTIFUL, GREEN, PRETTY TO THE AREA.
UM, I DO AGREE THAT PARKS WOULD BE NICE AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, 75% OR MORE OF ALL OF OUR PARKS ARE NORTH OF I 20.
WE HAVE ONLY 10 PARK AREAS SOUTH OF I 20 FOR THIS SIZE TOWN.
AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO ADDRESS.
WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM Y'ALL, COMES FROM PARKS AND REC OR COMES FROM CITY COUNCIL.
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE, UM, THE WALMART AND THE GAS PUMPS.
NOBODY HAS REALLY BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF BOAT TRAFFIC FOR THE 4TH OF JULY FOR MEMORIAL DAY FOR LABOR DAY.
AND WHERE DO THEY ALL STOP TO GET THEIR ICE AND THEIR GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY NEED FOR THE LAKE THAT IS JUST GONNA PRE, UH, PRESENT AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF CONGESTION AT THAT AREA, WHICH I AM VEHEMENTLY AGAINST.
AND I ASK ALL OF YOU TO DENY THIS.
UM, PLEASE GIVE IT A LOT OF THOUGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
COMMISH BY WISHES TO NOTE HIS OPPOSITION, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
MICHAEL ENRIQUEZ WISHES TO NOTE HIS OPPOSITION AND DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
UH, WE HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS ON THIS ONE.
UM, THE, THERE WAS ONE PERSON WHO NOTICED THEIR SUPPORT.
COULD THAT PERSON COME TO THE PODIUM? WHAT'S YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR? YEAH, DEAN STRAKA.
UM, 8 2 3 5 DOUGLAS AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS WITH VENTURE COMMERCIAL.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT, YOU'RE NO, I I WORK WITH MR. ANDERSON.
ARE YOU RELATED? HE HAD A QUESTION.
ARE YOU RELATED TO MR. ANDERSON? NO.
WELL, AS I LOOK AT MY LIST, I THINK THIS IS COMMISSIONER SMITH'S.
WELL, FIRST OFF, COMMISSIONER SMITH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK IF YOU WANTED TO ASK HIM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
AND I, I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYBODY THAT DID SHOW UP TO SPEAK.
AGAIN, WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
YOU DO NEED TO SHOW UP TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT'S WHERE THE REAL RUBBER'S GONNA HIT THE ROAD.
BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU CAME TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, UH, IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
OH, YOU, CAN YOU START OR DO YOU WANT CONCLUDE? WELL, I CAN CONCLUDE.
I'M GONNA LEAD, BUT I ONLY HAVE TWO 30,000 FOOT THINGS TO SAY AND THEY'RE JUST THIS, AND THEY'RE SOMEWHAT SELF OBVIOUS.
THE FIRST ONE HAS BEEN SAID BY COMMISSIONER ARI AND COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.
IF, IF WALMART DID NOT WANT TO PUT A GAS STATION AND A CONVENIENCE STORE HERE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO STOP THAT.
THEY HAVE THAT, THAT LAND IS ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY AND THEY CAN DO THAT BY, RIGHT.
THE OTHER ONE, WHICH I'M A NORTH GRAND PRAIRIE GUY, I TOOK OUR DAUGHTER TO PRAIRIE LIGHTS ONE TIME AND I SAID, I'M NEVER GETTING INTO THIS TRAFFIC AGAIN.
UM, SO YOU GUYS IN THE SOUTH ARE, IT'S THE, IT'S THE BENEFIT AND THE CURSE THAT YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT AND SO MANY PEOPLE WANNA LIVE THERE, THAT YOU'VE GOT BIG TRAFFIC.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT IS MORE RELEVANT IN THE SOUTH THAN IN THE NORTH.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA, COMMISSIONER
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HONORARIA, IF YOU WANNA START, UM, AGAIN, JUST REITERATING WHAT WE'VE SAID, IF IT'S NOT THE WALMART OR YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE COULD COME IN AND MAYBE IF THEY'D REVISE THE PLANS WITHOUT THE GAS STATION AND THE PHARMACY, WOULD THAT HELP? I DON'T KNOW.I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO SAY.
THE CRIME RATE HAS GONE UP AND PROPERTY VALUES HAVE DECREASED.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T HAVE REAL DATA SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS TYPE OF WALMART, BUT THE OTHER WALMARTS HAVE PROVEN HISTORICALLY, UM, TO DE DECREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE AREA.
UM, SO NO FURTHER COMMENT FROM ME.
GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IS IT PORTABLE BY RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, TO PUT A, A CONVENIENCE STORE, GROCERY STORE? YES.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE, THE COMMUNITY HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF VALID CONCERNS.
UM, I WOULD'VE EXPECTED FOR WALMART, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, REACH THAT THEY HAVE AND THE RESOURCES TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY UPFRONT BEFORE COMING TO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS COMMISSION SO THAT, UH, THEY COULD GET, YOU KNOW, THEIR VOICE HEARD.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT.
UH, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I CANNOT SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UH, AND IN FAVOR OF THIS, OF THIS REQUEST.
COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES, SIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US BECAUSE CORPORATE NEEDS TO KNOW HOW COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT, NOT JUST WHAT ISSUES ARE HAPPENING, BUT MOST OF ALL WHERE THEY LAY THEIR HEADS.
SO I LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
I FEEL THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WALMART TO MARRY, UM, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS COMMUNITY AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND MAYBE EVEN COME TO A COMMON GROUND.
I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO BE PROSPEROUS.
I WANT MR. ANDERSON TO BE ABLE TO SELL HIS PROPERTY AND NOT HAVE TO RESELL IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
BUT EQUALLY AS SUCH, I THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE A CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT EVERYBODY WILL PROSPER IN.
AND I DON'T THINK THE DUE DILIGENCE HAS BEEN DONE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN THIS EVENING.
I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LOCKHART.
SO TODAY ON THE WAY TO WORK, I DROVE PAST THIS SITE AND ONTO THE NEXT WALMART.
AND I ASKED MYSELF, DO I WANT ANOTHER ONE? AND THE BEST PREDICTOR OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE IS PAST PERFORMANCE OR CURRENT PERFORMANCE.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT WALMART IS CURRENTLY PERFORMING FOR THE COMMUNITY AT THE LEVEL AS IT SHOULD BE.
SO, UM, I, I HAVE SERIOUS DOUBTS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL AND I HAVE EMPATHY FOR THE SELLER.
I KNOW YOU WANNA SELL YOUR PROPERTY, BUT I BELIEVE THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT'S HERE TONIGHT.
'CAUSE I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR AS WELL.
I LIVE DOWN THE STREET LITERALLY FROM THIS AREA.
AND WHEN I CAME, IT WAS A DIRT ROAD AND IT WAS A BEST KEPT SECRET.
I WAS TOLD TO COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
I'M SO GLAD I HONORED THAT BECAUSE I LOVE GRAND PRAIRIE.
YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE AND WE ARE SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOU CARE ENOUGH TO COME.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN PAYING THEIR TAXES FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AND HONORING YOU.
THE FACT THAT THAT IS YOUR HOME.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE GROUNDS ARE, ARE ARE GORGEOUS OVER HERE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF TREES, WE HAVE WALKABLE AREAS.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE AND THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD I WOULD EVER CONSIDER APPROVING THIS.
BUT I WANNA SAY TO WALMART, I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING, CONSIDERING US.
BUT LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN SAID, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DUE DILIGENCE HERE.
AND IT'S REALLY IN THE WRONG SPOT BECAUSE, UH, LAKE PARKS IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
WE NEED TO RETHINK, UH, PROCESSES AND RETHINK THE COMMUNITY.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, I, I HONOR AND AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONER'S
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COMMENTS.AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, A, A COMMISSIONER, CHAPMAN AND COMMISSIONER, UH, NEMO AND I, WE ALL LIVE OVER HERE SO WE KNOW THE DYNAMICS OF, OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO WE'RE JUST NOT SITTING HERE MAKING A DECISION.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE A PART OF THE PRO OF THE SITUATION AS WELL.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM NUMBER THREE SUP 2 6 0 6 0 0 1 5 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SITE PLAN FOR A LARGE RETAIL GAS STATION.
UM, AS PER, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU FOR COMMISSIONER SMITH.
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S MOTION? I HAVE A SECOND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH TO DENY ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS MOTION? OKAY.
ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE DENIAL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
[4. TAM-26-08-0002 - Text Amendment - Article 4: Permissible Uses, Article 11: Performance Standards, and Article 30: Definitions. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending portions of Article 4: Permissible Uses to add Mixed-Use Cigar Lounge as a use allowed by Specific Use Permit (SUP) in the Central Area (CA) District only and to establish specific standards for the Mixed-Use Cigar Lounge use; amending portions of Article 11: Performance Standards to allow on-premise sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages as an accessory use for Museum, Art Gallery, and Bookstore uses within the Central Area (CA) and Planned Development-443 (PD-443) Districts by Specific Use Permit and with certain conditions and to allow on-premise sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages as an accessory use for Mixed-Use Cigar Lounges within the Central Area (CA) District with certain conditions; and amending portions of Article 30: Definitions to define Museum, Art Gallery, Bookstore, and Mixed-Use Cigar Lounge; Repealing all Ordinances or Parts of Ordinances in Conflict Herewith; Containing a Savings Clause and a Severability Clause; Containing a Penalty Clause, and Establishing an Effective Date]
AND SAVANNAH, WE'RE SORRY THAT WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT THE, UH, THAT ALL RIGHT.BRIEFING, BUT, YOU KNOW, TEXT AMENDMENTS, YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TOO MUCH, UH, ATTENTION.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
THIS NEXT ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THREE ARTICLES WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT'S ARTICLE FOUR PERMISSIBLE USES ARTICLE 11, UM, AND ARTICLE 30.
SO I'M GONNA GO OVER THE CHANGES, UM, AS THEY RELATE TO TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.
THE FIRST IS RELATED TO A PROPOSED NEW USE, WHICH IS A MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE.
AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, COMPONENT IS RELATED TO ALCOHOL SALES AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO THESE, UH, CHANGES TO THE TAX AMENDMENT ARE LIMITED TO THE TOWN DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE, AND THEN THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING DISTRICT AND PD 4, 4 3 FOR THE ALCOHOL SALES AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND SO THE FIRST PART OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT ADDS MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE AS A USE AND DEFINES IT AS AN ESTABLISHMENT, PRIMARILY ORIENTED TOWARDS THE ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION, ENJOYMENT AND SALE OF CIGARS AND RELATED TOBACCO PRODUCTS THAT INCORPORATES A COMBINATION OF COMPLIMENTARY RETAIL, SOCIAL ENTERTAINMENT AND HOSPITALITY ACTIVITIES.
SUCH USE MAY INCLUDE A RETAIL HUMIDOR, PRIVATE OR MEMBERSHIP BASED LOUNGE AREAS, HUMID OR LOCKERS OR SIMILAR CIGAR STORAGE SERVICES FOR MEMBERS OR CUSTOMERS MEETING, GATHERING OR EVENT SPACES.
AND THEN OTHER ENTERTAINMENT ELEMENTS.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE SALE AND SERVICES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, THE OPERATION OF A FULL SERVICE BAR.
AND THEN ALL ACTIVITIES SHALL BE CONSIDERED COMPONENTS OF THAT MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE RATHER THAN SEPARATE PRINCIPLE USES.
AND THEN NO MORE THAN 40% OF ALL ON-PREMISE SALE SHALL BE FROM THE SALE OF CIGAR PRODUCTS.
SO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT DEFINES THAT USE IT, ADDS IT TO OUR USE CHARTS AND SAYS THAT IT'S ALLOWABLE IN THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING DISTRICT WITH CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
IT ADDS SPECIFIC REGULATIONS AND ARTICLE FOUR IN WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT.
AND THE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS A LIST OF LOCATIONS WHERE THE, UH, SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION IS ALLOWED.
SO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD ADD MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE TO THAT LIST.
UH, WITH SOME CONDITIONS IT'S PERMITTED AS AN INCIDENTAL USE WHERE ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION IS PERMITTED BY STATE LICENSE OR PERMIT ISSUED UNDER TABC.
NO MORE THAN 25% OF ALL SALES ARE FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
AND THEN THEY MUST PROVIDE THE SALES TAX INFORMATION TO THE CITY FOR VERIFICATION.
SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE, UH, THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE SHALL BE CONSIDERED A SMOKING LOUNGE, AND THAT, UH, ESTABLISHES THAT SMOKING CAN OCCUR AT THIS LOCATION.
IT MAY NOT BE OR MAY NOT BE OPEN INTO A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
IT MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS OF OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE.
WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME PROVISIONS THAT REALLY RELATE TO, UM, A SEPARATE HVAC, UH, SYSTEM AND AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM, UH, TRYING TO CONTROL WHERE, UH, SMOKE MIGHT MIGRATE TO.
I CAN GO INTO THOSE DETAILS IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, FOR MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS OR FOR A LOCATION WITHIN A BUILDING THAT SHARES
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A COMMON WALL WITHIN AN ADJOINING BUILDING.SO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, STANDARDS ARE SAYS NO LIVE MUSIC, OUTDOORS MUSIC CANNOT BE AMPLIFIED ON OUTDOOR OR OUTDOOR SPOILERS, AND THEN IT MUST ABIDE BY OUR NOISE RESTRICTIONS.
SO THAT IS THE FIRST PART OF OUR TEXT AMENDMENT.
UH, THE SECOND IS RELATED TO ALCOHOL SALES AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, FOR THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING DISTRICT OR PD 4 43, UH, WITH APPROVAL OF THE SUP.
SO ARTICLE 30, WE ARE ADDING DEFINITIONS FOR A MUSEUM, ART GALLERY, AND BOOKSTORE USE.
SO THESE ARE THE ONLY THREE USES THAT THE ALCOHOL SALES COULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE.
IT'S PERMITTED AS AN INCIDENTAL USE.
UH, IT GOES THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS.
SO CITY COUNCIL WOULD HEAR THAT AND WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
AND THEN NO MORE THAN 25% OF ALL SALES ARE FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
UH, STAFF DID PRESENT THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON THE 20TH AND INCORPORATED SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THE DRAFT.
SO THE REVISED DRAFT IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, AT YOUR PLACE AND PRINT IT OUT.
UM, SO IT'S, UH, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, IT IS SCHEDULED TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THIS, IF YOU COULD SPECIFY THAT THE THE REVISED, UH, TEXT IS, IS WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, STAFF WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
SAVANNAH, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT, THAT I HAVE IS, IS HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THIS CITY, YOU KNOW, UM, IN TERMS OF ENFORCING OR HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE LIMITS, BUT HOW DOES THAT GET VERIFIED? IS IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL REPORTING THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE OR HOW DOES THAT WORK IN SOME INSTANCES? SO FOR THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT BREAKDOWN.
UH, THE OTHER, UH, IS A USEFUL TOOL IN, IN NOTING IT'S 25% REALLY INTENDED AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO THE PRIMARY USE OF THAT LOCATION IS A BOOKSTORE.
IT IS NOT A BAR WITH A SHELF OF BOOKS FOR SALE.
UM, SO THAT IS A METRIC THAT STAFF EVALUATES.
UH, IF, IF THEY CAME THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS WOULD EVALUATE IT AT THAT TIME, IF THAT SUP WAS APPROVED AGAIN AT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND IF IT WERE NOT, UM, OPERATING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED IN THE SUP OR THE UDC, THEN WE WOULD BEGIN ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
SO THE SALES WILL BE VERIFIED.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE INDICATING? YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER SMITH JUST HAD A QUESTION, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING THE CIGAR LOUNGE LOUNGE AS WELL AS THE MUSEUM AND THE OTHER, UH, ENTITIES.
AND THIS GONNA BE FOR EX EXISTING MUSEUMS AND FACILITIES WE ALREADY HAVE WITH THE, UH, ALCOHOL CELLS.
SO THIS WILL BE JUST FOR THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING DISTRICT AND THE PD 4, 4 3.
SO THIS WOULD BE ANY, ANY BOOKSTORE, MUSEUM OR ART GALLERY THAT OBTAINED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT COULD THEN HAVE ALCOHOL SALES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
BUT AS FOR NOW, THEY WOULD BE GRAND.
WHATEVER WE ALREADY HAVE WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED OKAY.
BUT, BUT ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN N NO, NO, THEY HAVE TO, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO AN SUP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SU PROCESS.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
IT'S, SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER LAHAR, IF I MAY 1ST.
UH, SO THIS IS GONNA BE BASICALLY FOR GRAND PRAIRIE MAIN STREET? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? GENERALLY FOR THE, THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND I, I WILL PULL UP THE MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION.
SO THIS SHOWS, UM, SO IT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF CONSTRAINT HERE.
SO THE, THE PURPLE AREA IS THE CENTRAL AREA ZONING.
AND SO THAT IS, UH, THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE WOULD ONLY PERTAIN TO THIS PORTION.
UH, THE PURPLE PLUS THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED, WHICH IS PD 4 43 WOULD BE FOR THE ALCOHOL SALES IS AN ACCESSORY USE FOR THE ART GALLERY, THE MUSEUM, AND THE BOOKSTORE.
SO, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT KIND OF FOLLOWS ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
YOU TALKED ABOUT A PERCENTAGE OF SALES, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT AS A METRIC, THAT HAS TO BE OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, DOESN'T IT? ANNUALLY.
SO SOMEBODY COULD GO 11 MONTHS AND NOT SELL A DROP OF, DROP OF LIQUOR AND THEN FOR THEIR 12TH MONTH THEY COULD GO ALL OUT AND, 'CAUSE IF IT'S MEASURED ANNUALLY, IT'S
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25% OF ALL THE SALES THAT HAPPEN, RIGHT? COR CORRECT.THAT'S NOT HOW THESE OPERATIONS WOULD, WOULD, CORRECT.
I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA KNOW THE MEASURING PERIOD, BUT IT'S OVER A YEAR.
IT'S NOT ON A DAY BASIS, NOT A MONTH.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID ABOUT FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO THEY CAN'T BE PART OF OR SERVE BY, OR, OR WHAT, WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, WHAT IF THEY DO WANT TO HAVE FOOD? THEY, I GUESS THERE'S NO FOOD OFFERED WHATSOEVER.
SO OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IF, IF THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE SMOKING IN A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, SO A PLACE THAT'S SELLING FOOD OR SERVING FOOD, YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE THINGS.
SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE FOOD FOR SALE IN THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE.
COMMISSIONER LOCKHART, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF THERE.
WHY IS THERE A MAXIMUM OF 40% FOR ON SALE, UH, FOR CIGARS? LIKE IT SHOULD BE? SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE LIKE A MINIMUM OF, SO THIS IS REALLY, WE HAVE A, ANOTHER USE IN OUR USE CHARTS, A SMOKING LOUNGE.
AND SO THESE PERCENTAGES ARE DESIGNED TO DIFFERENTIATE THE TWO USES.
SO THE MIXED USE CIGAR LOUNGE, UM, INCORPORATES ADDITIONAL USES.
SO IT HAS AN ENTERTAINMENT, ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENT, UH, HOSPITALITY COMPONENT, WHEREAS THE SMOKING LOUNGE IS PRIMARILY JUST FOR SMOKING.
THAT ANSWER MY QUESTION? COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? I'M SORRY.
I REMEMBER VAGUELY, UM, A HOOKAH LOUNGE.
YOU CAN SERVE FOOD IN THE HOOKAH LOUNGE, BUT YOU CAN'T NO, NO, YOU CANNOT.
THEY, I I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERENCING A BUSINESS THAT HAS A SEPARATE RESTAURANT ADJACENT.
AND, UH, PATRONS WOULD ORDER AT THE RESTAURANT, GET TO GO FOOD AT THE RESTAURANT, AND THEN THEY WOULD BRING IT OVER TO THE SMOKING LOUNGE.
I JUST REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE SMOKING AND EATING, I DUNNO WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.
SO THE, THE HOOKAH LOUNGE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE, SELL THAT FOOD OR SERVE THAT FOOD.
COULD THE SAME THING HAPPEN HERE WITH A CIGAR LOUNGE PEOPLE BASICALLY PRE PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR OWN FOOD, RIGHT? YES.
AS LONG AS THEY WERE NOT ANY SORT OF FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
AND SO FOOD TRUCKS AND ALL THAT COULD BE OUTSIDE, RIGHT? IF THEY WERE, IF THE FOOD TRUCKS WERE MEETING ALL CITY ORDINANCES, ET CETERA? YES.
I DIDN'T THINK THE TEXT AMENDMENT WAS GONNA BE SO EXCITING.
UM, ANYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR SAVANNAH? THANK YOU, SAVANNAH.
I, I HOPE THIS TAKES OFF IN THIS DISTRICT, BY THE WAY.
THAT WOULD BE A NICE LITTLE THING FOR GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO, UH, ANY DISCUSS? WE, WE HAVE A SPEAKER.
REESE SMITH, WHICH IS THE SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
I'M WHO YOU BEEN ALL NIGHT,
I LIVE AT 1405 EAST TARRANT ROAD.
UM, I'M IN NORTH ARLINGTON AND IN, I'M SORRY, NORTH GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND I AM LOOKING TO OPEN UP PROS AND POURS, WHICH IS A BOOKSTORE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A CAFE WITH IT.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO LIQUOR.
WE ARE VERY MUCH GONNA FOCUS JUST ON BEER AND WINE.
GRAND PRAIRIE HAS 212,000 PEOPLE HERE.
WE HAVE NO INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE.
UM, THE CLOSEST ONE IS BISHOP ARTS IN ARLINGTON, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE.
WE NEED A THIRD SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN HANG OUT, WHERE THEY CAN BRING THEIR FAMILY, WHERE A MOM CAN COME, HAVE A GLASS OF WINE, WALK AROUND, TAKE A LOOK AT SOME BOOKS, SIT FOR A MINUTE, HAVE A GIRL'S NIGHT, A BOOK CLUB, A GAME NIGHT.
THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT THIS BOOKSTORE IS LOOKING TO DO.
WE ARE BOOKSTORE FIRST THAT HAPPENS TO SELL WINE AND BEER.
WE ARE NOT A BAR THAT SELLS BOOKS.
SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND SEE IF YOU HAD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER.
I'M ACTUALLY INTRIGUED BY THE CONCEPT.
I DO, I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION AS WELL? NO, MA'AM.
THIS IS GONNA BE MY FIRST ONE.
WELL THIS IS SOUNDS WONDERFUL.
I WAS VERY SURPRISED BY THAT, BUT THAT'S GOOD.
ANYBODY WANNA OFFER A MOTION HERE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, TM 26 8 2 AMENDMENT, ARTICLE FOUR.
PERMISSIBLE USES ARTICLE 11, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND ARTICLE 30 DEFINITIONS AND APPROVE AS PER
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DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.AND TO CLARIFY, IS THAT THE AMENDED TEXT AMENDMENTS? MM-HMM
THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT? MM-HMM
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER SMITH TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR, UH, WITH THE AMENDED LANGUAGE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AKARI.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? CAN UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
UNANIMOUSLY, EVEN THOSE TY'S CELL PHONES SHOULD HAVE BEEN OFF AT THE BEGINNING.
UM, WITH THAT THERE'S NO OTHER, BUT I'VE JUST COME ON WITH THAT.