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WELCOME 
          [Call to Order]
TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 23RD, 2026. 
          I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS, IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:45 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. 
          ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. 
          NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION. 
          HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA. 
          INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. 
          TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD. 
          THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. 
          AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE, CHERYL SMITH. 
          HERE, TY CHAPMAN. 
          MALCOLM CHAY. 
          CHRISTOPHER OLEY. 
          HERE. 
          FRANK GONZALEZ. 
          JANIE MENDEZ, AKARI. 
          HERE. 
          VICTOR MEDINA. 
          HERE. 
          JOHN FCO. 
          HERE KENNETH PRESLEY. 
          LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS OF PRESENT EXCEPT FOR TY CHAPMAN, MALCOLM ERY, FRANK GONZALEZ AND KENNETH PRESLEY. 
          AND NOW WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, COMMISSIONER VICTOR MEDINA, GIVE THE INVOCATION. 
          AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER JANIE MENDEZ. 
          RIO LEAD US TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG. 
          PLEASE BOW OUR HEADS. 
          DEAR LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU GRANT US THE WISDOM AND TEMPERAMENT TO WITH WHICH TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS HERE TODAY, SO THAT WE MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT MOST BENEFIT THE FELLOW RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITIES AS THEY RELY ON US TO BE THEIR VOICE. 
          WE ASK THIS IN JESUS' NAME. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS, TEXAS, TEXAS STATE ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT LOT STUFF GOING ON HERE. 
          IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. 
          THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF. 
          APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT. 
          ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. 
          ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING. 
          SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG YOU, ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT. 
          IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A, ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, SHOULD SPEAK ON THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS. 
          STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO REP, RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM. 
          AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? TIFFANY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. 
          THE 
          [PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]
NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THERE IS ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ITEM ONE APPROVAL, THE MINUTES OF JUNE 9TH, 2026, PNZ MEETING. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. 
          NO SPEAKER CARDS. 
          WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER FEDCO. 
          MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 9TH MEETING. 
          I SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UH, MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          NEXT CASE, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER TWO 
          [2. SUP-26-05-0010 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Concrete Pumping at 1509 W Shady Grove Rd (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a contractor shop with outside storage and heavy equipment on 1.838 Acres. 1.838 acres of land in the John C Read Survey, Abstract No. 1183, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned LI, within the SH-161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1509 W Shady Grove Rd]
IS SUP DASH 26 DASH ZERO FIVE DASH 0 0 1 0 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UH, SLASH SITE PLAN 
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FOR 1509 WEST SHADY GROVE ROAD IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A SUP SITE PLAN, REQUEST FOR A CONTRACTOR SHOP WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT LOCATED AT 1509 WEST SHADY GROVE ROAD. 
          UM, IT IS ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          IT IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE, UM, HIGHWAY 1 61 CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT. 
          THERE YOU CAN SEE THE AERIAL. 
          UM, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY IS, UH, WITHIN THE YELLOW BOUNDARY. 
          IT IS SURROUNDED ON THE NORTHWEST AND THE EAST WITH OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, ZONE PROPERTIES. 
          ON THE SOUTH, WE HAVE PD 1 0 5 THAT IS A MOBILE PARK, UH, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY. 
          THE PROPOSED USE IS, UM, THEY WILL BE, THE APPLICANT WILL BE DEMOLISHING, UM, ALL OF THE EXISTING ON ONSITE STRUCTURES. 
          AND THEN THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING FOR THEIR COMPANY CALLED CONCRETE PUMPING CONCRETE PUMP HOLDINGS. 
          THEY WILL HAVE CONCRETE PUMP, TRUCK PARKING AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT OUTDOOR STORAGE, UM, IN THE YEAR, THE REAR PART OF THEIR LOT, ALONG WITH A APPROXIMATELY 16,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA ALONG THAT SOUTHERN PART OF THE LOT RESERVE FOR ONSITE STORM WATER DETENTION. 
          THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE HOURS WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND THEIR PUMP TRUCK OPERATIONS DAILY WILL BE 12:00 AM TO 11:00 PM THE SITE WILL ACCOMMODATE CONCRETE PUMP TRUCKS UP TO 40 FOOT FEET IN LENGTH. 
          UM, PARKING STALLS FOR THE TRUCKS WILL BE DESIGNED WITH A MINIMUM 14 FEET WIDTH TO REDUCE ACCIDENTS. 
          TRUCK CIRCULATION ON SITE WILL BE LIMITED TO ENTERING, EXITING PARKING. 
          UM, JUST DAILY DISPATCH OPERATIONS AND THE NOISE ON SITE WILL BE FROM THIS, UH, TRUCK CIRCULATION. 
          THE ENGINE START SHUT DOWN. 
          UM, CIRCULATION AND THE BACKUP ALARM NOTIFICATIONS. 
          HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. 
          IT DOES MEET ALL OF OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, IT IS ALSO MEETING ALL OF OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, THE PARKING IS SHOWN IN BLUE. 
          THE BO THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PROPO PROPOSING IS, UM, IN YELLOW, I THINK MOVE HERE. 
          AND THEN THIS OR ORANGE AREA HERE IS THAT, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE AND TRUCK PARKING AREA. 
          THIS IS THE REAR PART, THAT 16,000 SQUARE FEET AREA WHERE THERE WILL BE STORMWATER DETENTION LANDSCAPE PLAN. 
          UM, CURRENTLY THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED IS MEETING THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. 
          YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TREES THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED. 
          THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS THERE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE A TREE SURVEY OR TREE MITIGATION PLAN. 
          SO THE FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN IS DEPENDENT OR SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF A FUTURE TREE SURVEY. 
          THE, UM, SCREENING. 
          SO WE DO, UH, REQUIRE SCREENING ALONG THE, UM, WEST, SOUTH, AND EAST, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROVIDING. 
          UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE, THE RED LINE HERE ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. 
          UM, THERE IS A EXISTING, UH, CHAIN LINK, SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. 
          AND THEN THERE IS ALSO AN EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE HERE IN THIS PORTION. 
          THE OTHER ORANGE AREA. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN BLUE. 
          THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. 
          UM, THEY ARE, UM, SHOWING STUCCO STONE COLUMNS, UM, METAL PANELS SHOWING THAT SECOND STORY. 
          THERE IS KIND OF A DISTINCTIVE FIRST AND SECOND STORY LOOK HERE. 
          UM, THESE ARE, THAT'S THE NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY ELEVATION. 
          UH, HERE'S THE SOUTH ELEVATION BRICK, AND THEN AGAIN, THE PREFABRICATED METAL PANELS WITH WINDOWS, THE EAST ELEVATION AND THE WEST ELEVATION. 
          SIMILAR, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES. 
          NUMBER ONE IS PAVEMENT MATERIAL, A VARIANCE TO THE UDC ARTICLE 10 REQUIREMENT THAT ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL PARKING LOTS SHALL BE FULLY PAVED WITH CONCRETE TO ALLOW FOR GRAVEL SURFACE IN TRUCK PARKING AND OUTSIDE STORAGE. 
          AREA. 
          NUMBER TWO, UM, SCREENING ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, A VARIANCE TO THE UDC ARTICLE EIGHT REQUIREMENT OF A SIX FOOT, WE SIX FOOT WOOD SCREENING ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE TO ALLOW AN EXISTING SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE TO REMAIN. 
          AND AN ADDITIONALLY, A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THAT EASTERN LINE, LIKE I SHOWED IN BLUE. 
          NUMBER THREE, UH, SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTH, A VARIANCE TO THE UDC ARTICLE EIGHT REQUIREMENT OF SIX FOOT WOOD SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO ALLOW AN EXISTING SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE AND EXISTING BERMAN TREE LINE TO REMAIN ALONG THE SOUTHERN LINE. 
          AND NUMBER FOUR, PRINCIPLE MASONRY REQUIREMENT VARIANCE TO THE UDC APPENDIX F REQUIREMENT OF 100% MASONRY, UM, TO BE ON THE EXTERIOR OF ALL BUILDINGS TO ALLOW A BUILDING MATERIAL COMPOSITION OF 48% MASONRY AND 35% PRE-FINISHED METAL PANELS. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          NUMBER ONE, THAT THE OUTSIDE STORAGE 
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AND TRUCK PARKING AREA SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE AREAS MARKED, UM, FOR TRUCK PARKING AND STORAGE ON THE ATTACHED SITE PLAN, WHICH WAS SHOWN IN ORANGE. 
          NUMBER TWO, PAVED CONCRETE SHALL BE REQUIRED FOR THE PARKING OF VEHICLES AND STORAGE OF ANY MOTORIZED EQUIPMENT UNITS. 
          NUMBER THREE, A, A TREE SURVEY AND TREE MITIGATION PLAN SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO OR AT THE TIME OF CIVIL PLAN REVIEW. 
          UH, NO PERMITS WILL BE RELEASED BEFORE APPROVAL OF THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN. 
          NUMBER FOUR, THAT THE EXISTING WOOD FENCE ON THE WEST WESTERN PROPERTY LINE BE, UH, MUST BE REPLACED OR REPAIRED WHERE IT EXHIBITS ANY DISREPAIR. 
          WE'RE DEFINING THAT AS ADVANCED WEATHERING ANY STRUCTURAL FAILURE FAILURE, ANY ROT. 
          UM, AND THIS HAS TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          AND NUMBER FIVE, IF DETENTION IS REQUIRED, IT SHALL MEET ALL ENGINEERING STANDARDS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HENA? COMMISSIONER FEDCO? HENA, CAN YOU PULL THE SITE PLAN BACK UP, PLEASE? YES. 
          THAT, YEAH, EITHER ONE OF THOSE IS FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAVE DEPICTED THERE IN GRAY, UH, IS THAT YES, YES. 
          THIS YES, YES. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT ENVISIONED BY YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE CONCRETE? THIS IS CONCRETE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING CONCRETE HERE. 
          AND HE'S OKAY WITH THAT. 
          THEY'RE PROVIDING IT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, BUT WHERE THEY'RE NOT IN THE, IN THE SALMON COLORS WHERE HE DOESN'T WANNA PROVIDE THE CONCRETE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S THE, UH, DISTANCE? YOU HAVE AN ARROW ON THE, WHAT? IS THAT? THE NORTH SIDE OR WHAT THE WHERE THE, WHERE THE RETENTION AREA IS OR THE, THE OVER HERE? YEAH. 
          HOW, HOW WIDE IS THAT FROM, UH, WHATEVER THAT IS THE, THE DIRECTION OF THE ARROW, HOW WIDE IS, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S, YEAH. 
          16,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          WHAT'S THAT WIDTH? I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, PERHAPS THE APPLICANT HAS A BETTER PICTURE. 
          I CAN'T READ IT ON HERE. 
          IT JUST SAYS 16,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR HENA. 
          YES. 
          HENA, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE, UH, THE, THE SHOW, THE WHOLE, THE LOCATION WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS? YES. 
          THAT ONE, UH, I HAD A CONCERN IN, IN THE BRIEFING ABOUT THE 300 FEET, UH, IN PROXIMITY TO THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          SO I SEE THAT, THAT CAN YOU PUT YOUR LITTLE CURSOR ON THE, YOU, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE THERE. 
          AND THEN ON THE SIDE OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS A MOBILE HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IT IS ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT'S STILL WITHIN 300 FEET OF THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          YES. 
          AND SO, WAS THERE A REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT THIS WAS, WAS COMING OR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE PROPERTY? GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, THERE ARE SO MANY VARIANCES. 
          I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT COMPLYING WITH ALL THOSE VARIANCES. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          UH, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NOT FOR VERY GOOD. 
          VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS. 
          EDGAR MOLINA. 
          HE'S AVAILABLE TO SPEAK IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, MY NAME IS EDGAR MOLINA. 
          I LIVE IN 36 2 4 LONDON LANE, RICHLAND HILLS. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THIS IS QUITE A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GETTING READY? IT IT IS. 
          TO TAKE ON IT? IT IS. 
          AND HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL? YES. 
          IT IS QUITE A PROJECT. 
          YES. 
          AND SO, UH, BEING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE HOMEOWNERS MM-HMM . 
          HAVE YOU TRIED TO REACH OUT OR HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS? UH, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS. 
          THE OWNER, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OUR CLIENT AND THE UH, UH, BROKER, THEY'RE IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER AND THEY HAVE BEEN RELAYING ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE OWNER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THE OWNER HAS TOLD THE NEIGHBORS, I CANNOT PROVIDE AN UPDATE SINCE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THOSE, UH, CONVERSATIONS. 
          BUT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S ON. 
          BUT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES. 
          YES. 
          AND WE'VE, I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY VISITED THE SITE, BUT MY COWORKERS VISITED THE SITE TWICE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TO WALK IT, TAKE PICTURES, AND TO POST THE SIGNS. 
          AND BOTH TIMES WE KNOCKED AT, UH, THE OWNER'S HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S, UH, SO THE OWNER IS GONNA SELL THE PROPERTY. 
          AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY WHAT MAKES YOU CHOOSE THIS LOCATION TO, TO DO THIS? SO OUR CLIENT ACTUALLY HAS A SIMILAR BUSINESS THREE BLOCKS DOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TWO OR THREE, SORRY, TWO OR THREE ADDRESSES DOWN, UH, TO THE, UH, WHAT IS THAT? TO THE EAST? I THINK IT'S 1505. 
          UH, AND IT'S THE SAME, PRETTY MUCH BASICALLY THE SAME OPERATION. 
          AND SO THEY JUST NEED MORE ROOM. 
          AND SO THEY FOUND THIS ADDRESS WAS FOR SALE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED. 
          AND ALSO MY LAST QUESTION, IS THERE A LOT OF, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS BY A DRC MM-HMM . 
          ARE YOU WILLING TO COMPLY WITH, WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? YES. 
          THE, THE MAIN ONE THAT WE WANTED TO ASK FOR, WELL, ACTUALLY TWO, WAS, UH, IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY TO NOT HAVE TO PAVE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE AREA THERE. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE. 
          SO 
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IS THAT, IS THAT NUMBER TWO, YOUR, THE PAVE CONCRETE? IS THAT THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT? YES. 
          IT'S NUMBER TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE WERE RECOMMENDING OR PROPOSING TO LEAVE IT AS GRAVEL, UH, SINCE IT'S GONNA BE CONCRETE TRUCKS DRIVING ON THAT, ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, THE OWNER JUST FIGURED, WHY NOT JUST USE GRAVEL INSTEAD OF CONCRETE? AND, AND REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO JUST A COST. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SAVING ON THAT. 
          WHAT OTHER, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ARE YOU? THE OTHER ONE WE'RE SIMPLE AND WE'RE DEFINITELY OKAY WITH, UH, PROPOSING THE WOOD FENCE. 
          BUT WE WERE JUST SAYING WHY NOT JUST PROPOSING TO HIM, WHY NOT JUST LEAVE THE SAME FENCE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, SINCE IT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT, AND IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          SCREENING? WELL, I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE, UM, DURABILITY OF THE FENCE AND WHAT KIND OF SHAPE IT'S IN. 
          AND, AND WE DO HAVE A NOTE THAT IF THE EXISTING, AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE IT IN ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, IF, UH, SOME OF THAT FENCE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND WE'RE PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE MM-HMM . 
          REMOVING AND REPLACING IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, COMMISSIONER KO. 
          SO MR. MOLINA, THIS IS MY DISTRICT, UM, YOU CLIENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS THE CEMENT OPERATOR. 
          YES. 
          SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT CEMENT OPERATIONS? UH, NOT TOO MUCH. 
          MY FATHER-IN-LAW DOES CONCRETE, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, NO, I NOT. 
          IS YOUR FATHER-IN-LAW HERE? NO, HE'S NOT HERE. 
          . 
          SO ARE THEY GONNA RUN A BATCH PLANT HERE? NO, NO, NO. 
          JUST TRUCKS THAT WILL GO TO BATCH, BATCH PLANTS AND THEN COME BACK AND STAGE 'EM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S NO, NO SERIAL CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS THERE. 
          IT'S JUST STORAGE. 
          AND YOU'D BE OKAY WITH THE SUP MAKING A CONDITION THAT THERE COULD BE A BATCH PLANT THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU WANT TO RUN THIS FACILITY ALMOST 24 HOURS A DAY. 
          YOU ONLY WANT SEVEN HOURS OFF IN THE WHOLE CALENDAR WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES DO CONCRETE TRUCKS. 
          AND I'M, I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T KNOW THIS AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DO THEY IDLE LIKE REFRIGERATED TRUCKS DO? NO, THEY, IT JUST SIMPLY WHEN THEY START THE ENGINE, THEY'LL GO AND THEN COME BACK AND PARK IT. 
          AND THE, UH, REGULAR VEHICLE PARKING WE HAVE THERE IS FOR THE, BASICALLY THE DRIVERS OF THOSE TRUCKS. 
          SO YOU, YOU'RE, BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING, BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT MOBILE HOME PLACE MM-HMM . 
          YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO START TRUCKS UP AT WILL BACK THEM UP 2, 3, 4 IN THE MORNING. 
          I, I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE ACTIVE AT FOUR IN THE MORNING. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, RIGHT? NO, IT'S SEVEN TO, IT'S, IF WE COULD GO BACK ON THE SLIDE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE, I, IT WAS MIDNIGHT TO 11:00 PM EVERY DAY. 
          SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU PASSED IT. 
          YOU PASSED. 
          AM I GOING TOO, TOO? YOU WENT TOO FAST. 
          THERE IT IS. 
          FAST. 
          SEVEN TO 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE. 
          THAT'S THE LADY THAT RUNS THE TICKETS. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S, I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          IT WOULD BE MIDNIGHT TOO. 
          SOMETIMES WE, THEY POUR, NOT WE, I DON'T WORK IN CONCRETE, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO HAVE POURING OPERATIONS AT 3:00 AM I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD'VE KNOWN THIS, THIS PART. 
          BUT YES, THERE'LL BE SOME INSTANCES WHERE, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW IN THE SUMMER WHERE CONCRETE IS POURED IN THE MORNING, SO THEY WILL GO OUT THERE AND START THE TRUCK AND, AND LEAVE. 
          BUT, UH, I KNOW YOU ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER, HOW FAR AWAY IS THE, UH, WHERE DOES THE GRAVEL START FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? IT'S ABOUT 200 FEET FROM, FROM THE, UH, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SCREENING BACK THERE. 
          I GET, I GET IT THAT IT'S JUST NATURAL SCREENING. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY WON'T BLOCK OUT TOO MUCH OF THE NOISES, BUT THERE IS SOME TREES THERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP OUT WITH THE NOISE IF IT IS TOO LOUD. 
          ALSO, NOT ALL THE TRUCKS WILL BE STARTING AT ONCE. 
          IT'D BE ONE OR TWO TRUCKS. 
          WELL, THEY'LL BE STARTING IF THEY WANT, BUT IT'S TWO IN THE MORNING TO SOMEBODY. 
          IT'S STILL A TRUCK. 
          I GET IT. 
          I I GET IT. 
          WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HEAR NOISES AT NIGHT. 
          SO, SO WHAT IF I WERE TO SAY TO YOU, I'M ACTUALLY SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR IDEA THAT WHERE THE TRUCKS PARK, THAT'S OKAY FOR THAT TO BE GRAVEL BECAUSE THE PARK NEAR, I GUESS IT SHADY GROVE OR OAKDALE OR WHATEVER THE STREET IS MM-HMM . 
          YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT TO BE CEMENT. 
          YES. 
          ALL OF THAT WOULD BE ED FOR, UH, BASICALLY TO HELP WITH THE FIRING, TO MEET THE FIRING REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO YOU MIGHT HAVE MY SUPPORT MM-HMM . 
          IN THAT REGARD. 
          BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU WANT THREE KINDS OF NON-MATCHING FENCES, THAT'S ALSO A COST SAVING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT ABOUT IF WE HAD, IF IT WAS, WE DIDN'T GO THE DRC WAY IN TERMS OF MAKING YOU PAVE THE ENTIRE PLACE MM-HMM . 
          BUT THE FENCE IS GONNA BE UNIFORM AROUND ALL THREE SIDES. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT? YEAH. 
          OUR CLIENT WOULD BE PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. 
          AND NO BATCH PLANT. 
          DEFINITELY NO BATCH PLANT THERE. 
          VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          I ONLY HAD A COUPLE MORE THINGS. 
          UH, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ALL THESE TRUCKS. 
          WAS, WAS THERE GONNA BE A NOISE STUDY, BRETT, OR IS THAT NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, COMING IN AND OUT, IS IT GONNA BE SCHEDULED COMING IN AND OUT? YES. 
          SO THERE WON'T BE A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING AT ONE TIME. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A HARDSHIP ON THE 
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SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          CAN YOU GO INTO THAT? IT WOULD BE SCHEDULED AND I ANTICIPATE ONE OR TWO TRUCKS EVERY THREE HOURS. 
          IT SHOULDN'T BE ALL OF THEM COMING IN AT ONCE. 
          BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IN THE EVENING HOURS WHEN FOLKS ARE HAVING THEIR DINNER, THEY'RE GONNA HEAR THE TRUCKS, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO THE NOISE, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT OTHER BACK AREA THERE, YOU KNOW WHERE THE TREES ARE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT IS A CONCERN. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. 
          I THINK IT'S A CONCERN. 
          SO HOWEVER WE CAN TRY TO ACCOMMODATE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR MM-HMM . 
          AND MAKING SURE WE CAN REDUCE THE NOISE QUALITY AND, YOU KNOW, THAT FOLKS ARE THEIR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A PEACEFUL YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN IT MIGHT EVEN BE GOOD TO REACH OUT TO THE, SINCE THERE'S A CURRENT OPERATION, TWO, TWO HOUSES DOWN, AND I KNOW WE STILL HAVE COUNSEL, WE DO HAVE THE TIME TO GO AND, AND HAVE SOME CHATS WITH THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THERE. 
          IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. 
          SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          IF THEY DON'T, GREAT. 
          IF IF THEY DO, THEN WHAT IS IT? AND THEN WHAT CAN YOU OFFER THEM? I MEAN, AS, AS COMPENSATION FOR DOING ALL OF THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE MAY BE, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU CAN DONATE TO SOME OF THEIR CAUSES OR NEED. 
          THEY MAY NEED, NEED SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING. 
          IT JUST SEEMS THAT IT SHOULD BE AN OFFSET. 
          IT SHOULDN'T ALL BE EVERYTHING ON THE HOMEOWNER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I AGREE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD APPROACH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ERCO? SO MR. MOLINA, I WANNA BE VERY, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE OUT OVER YOUR SKIS. 
          YOU REALLY THINK WITH WEATHER, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THESE TRUCKS. 
          I THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO COME AND GO AS WEATHER AND CLIENT DEMANDS NEED. 
          I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN SCHEDULE THESE THINGS. 
          AND MOTHER NATURE SAYS, YEAH, I'LL COMPLY. 
          WELL, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THEY'RE DOING, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED. 
          BUT, UH, BUT I ALSO SEE YOUR POINT THERE THOUGH. 
          IT, THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED THERE. 
          THE DEMAND, AND THEY'RE GONNA GO, THEY'RE GONNA GO. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE SCHEDULED. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE STILL NEED TO KEEP THE HOMEOWNER IN MIND. 
          I DON'T THINK WE COULD IGNORE THE HOMEOWNER, JUST, THAT'S WHY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION. 
          AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN THIS PARTICULAR TIME. 
          AND JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. 
          I MEAN, IT, I MEAN, AT LEAST A COURTESY, IT JUST DOESN'T, THEY'RE TAXPAYERS TOO. 
          OH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT EXPECTING COURTESY FROM THEM. 
          I'M EXPECTING TO PUT CONDITIONS IN THE SUP THAT PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          I JUST, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SCHEDULE THESE THINGS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA COME AND GO AS NEEDED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AS WEATHER CONDITIONS AND COMMERCIAL CONDITIONS DICTATE ALSO, DO YOU WANT, UH, AND IF, I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK UP TO YOUR SITE PLAN THINGY? NO, NOT KEEP GOING. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          UH, IS THERE ANOTHER ONE WITH THE TREES? THINK IS THE ONLY, ONLY ONE. 
          OH, THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH. 
          THE NATIONAL PLAN. 
          SO, UM, THE TREES ACTUALLY ADD A NICE EFFECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT YOU HAVEN'T DONE YOUR, THE TREE SURVEY HAS NOT YET BEEN DONE. 
          NO, WE DID NOT PERFORM ONE. 
          AND, AND JUST TO STAY ON TRACK OF THE SCHEDULE TO GET ON P AND T TODAY, WE, UH, DID NOT HAVE TIME TO GET IT DONE. 
          BUT ONE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE. 
          YES. 
          IT HAS TO BE DONE AS, AS STATED BY HINA. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I LIKE THE FACT THAT ON THE, WHATEVER THE SIDE IS THAT WHERE THE MOBILE HOMES ARE, THAT THEY, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING TREES MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE ACTUALLY I THINK THEY, THEY MIGHT DO AS GOOD, IF NOT A BETTER JOB THAN A SIX FOOT WOODEN FENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEY'RE NOT COVERING THAT WHOLE, UH, DISTANCE. 
          NO. 
          SO, SO IF WE PUT SOME CONDITIONS IN THERE THAT YOU WOULD PLANT TREES TO COVER THE REST OF THAT DISTANCE FOR THEM TO GROW IN, YOU'D BE OKAY WITH THAT? AND PER CODE, WE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT TREES WITHIN THE DETENTION. 
          SO IF NEEDED, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL OKAY. 
          AREA WHERE WE COULD ADD TREES AND WE HAVE SOME ROOM BEHIND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I DON'T THINK YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS OR RASHAD IN, IS HE WITH, IN GRAND PRAIRIE, HE HAS TO DO A TREE SURVEY AND HE CAN CUT DOWN IF HE'S WILLING TO PAY ANY OLD GROWTH, LARGE DIAMETER TREES, HE JUST HAS TO PAY FOR IT. 
          UH, THERE IS A TREE RESTORATION FUND THAT HE COULD, UH, UH, PAY INTO. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S IF HE DIDN'T WANNA MITIGATE. 
          SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET CONSENT TO CUT TREES DOWN. 
          HE JUST HAS TO BE PREPARED TO WRITE A CHECK IF HE WANTS TO CUT TREES DOWN AFTER THE TREE SURVEY IS DONE. 
          AFTER THE TREE SURVEY IS DONE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          OH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          AND WE'RE AWARE AND, AND OKAY WITH THAT, SO WE KNOW WHATEVER INCHES WE REMOVE, WE HAVE TO REPLACE OR PAY FOR. 
          SO, UM, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TREE SURVEY AND THAT'S NOT OPTIONAL, BUT YEAH. 
          NO, NO. 
          YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT, UH, YOU, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, UH, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND MM-HMM . 
          THAT WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE. 
          AND, UH, SO THE ONLY, UH, ONE THAT YOU, THAT YOU WANT, UH, UH, SUPPORT NOT TO FOLLOW IS NUMBER TWO? YES. 
          THE WELL NUMBER TWO. 
          AND THEN THE MATERIAL FOR THE BUILDING. 
          WHICH, WHICH NUMBER IS THAT? IT WAS THAT NUMBER FOUR. 
          YEAH, THAT MASON. 
          AND THAT'S UP TO YOU. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST, JUST WANTED TO 
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MAKE SURE WE COVERED THAT. 
          YEAH, I, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, SPEAKERS FOR THIS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION NOW. 
          SURE. 
          COMMISSIONER, THIS IS YOUR AREA. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? DO YOU MIND LEAVING THAT UP THERE THOUGH, JUST FOR THE MOMENT? MM-HMM . 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S DEFINITELY, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, TYPICAL FOR THAT PART OF GRAND PRAIRIE. 
          UM, I, MY ONLY BIG CONCERN IS THE MOBILE HOME FOLKS TO THE ME TOO. 
          I FORGET WHAT SIDE THAT IS. 
          I GUESS THAT'S THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          IT'S THE SOUTH. 
          IT IS THE SOUTH, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT, AND NO DISRESPECT TO THE DRC, BUT YOU KNOW, IF HE'S GIVEN A, FOR THE FIRST, I DON'T KNOW, 150 FEET AND IF HIS TRUCKS NEED TO GO ON GRAVEL, I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG DEAL, BUT I SEE IT AS A BIG DEAL THAT HE, THAT THE FENCING, I THINK SHOULD BE NEW ON ALL THREE SIDES. 
          UH, WOOD EITHER SIX OR EIGHT FEET. 
          AND, UM, SO IT'S ALL CONSISTENT, MR. MOLINA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN ALSO THAT I GUESS HE HAS FREE REIGN TO DO WHAT HE WANTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO TREES. 
          BUT I WOULD ASK HIM THAT WE ACTUALLY GET HIM TO PLANT SOME MORE TREES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE SO THAT IT HOPEFULLY GROWS IN AND ADDS EXTRA BARRIER IN ADDITION TO THE SIX FOOT FENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DOES THAT MM-HMM . 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK, UH, COMMISSION FOR  MAKES SOME VERY GOOD POINTS. 
          THIS IS HIS AREA. 
          YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FOR HIS EXPERTISE ON THIS. 
          THE ONLY ONLY CONCERN I HAD IN WHICH HE AGREED TO WAS THAT HE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND LET 'EM KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC, TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE EVENING. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN'T, IT CAN'T BE CONSISTENT. 
          BUT AT LEAST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING BECAUSE THEY LIVE THERE. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS AND THERE'S NO CONVERSATION. 
          THERE HASN'T BEEN A REACH OUT, THERE HASN'T BEEN A REACH OUT. 
          BUT MADAM CHAIR, HE IS, EVEN IF HE DID DO A REACH OUT, AND I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T TRUST THEM TO NOT DO A REACH OUT MM-HMM . 
          BUT I THINK WE, AS OUR JOB WITH THE GOOD PRAYER THAT VICTOR DID EARLIER, WE NEED TO PLAN ON THIS BEING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          THAT THEY ARE RUNNING FROM 2:00 AM TO 4:00 AM EVERY DAY BUSY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUP HAS THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY, TO MITIGATE AGAINST THAT. 
          'CAUSE EVEN IF HE GOES AND SAYS, HEY, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAVE THAT MUCH ACTIVITY BETWEEN 2:00 AM AND 5:00 AM THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE, BUT IT'S JUST RESPECT. 
          NO, I HEAR YOU. 
          AND I, AND I, THAT'S ALL I ASK JUST TO, JUST TO RESPECT THE NEIGHBORS. 
          THAT'S ALL I SAY. 
          AND LIKE, OTHER THAN THAT, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND Y'ALL, ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER? YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A COMPLICATED MOTION. 
          I'LL SEE IF I CAN DO IT. 
          UM, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM TWO WITH SOME MODIFIED VARIANCES. 
          UM, UH, SORRY. 
          RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THANK YOU SAVANNAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BETTER. 
          UM, TWO AND FOUR THAT WE DELETE. 
          UH, TWO, UH, WITH RESPECT TO WHERE THE CONCRETE TRUCKS WILL BE STORED, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          BUT THE REST OF THE STUFF SHALL BE PAVED CONCRETE AS THEY INDICATED TO US. 
          THE TREE SURVEY CAN COME LATER, BUT THEY ARE, THEY WOULD MAKE A COMMITMENT TO PLANT TREES SIMILAR TO WHAT'S THERE OR OTHER ONES THAT CAN GROW TO THE SAME HEIGHT ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT THE EXIST ANYTHING IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO FENCING IS NOW IT'S ALL UNIFORM NEW SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE ON THE WHOLE PERIMETER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WOULD MOTION, THAT'S A WONDERFUL MOTION. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO. 
          IT IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JANIE ARI FOR OUR SUP 26 0 5 0 1 AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS MINUS THE, UM, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, JOHN SAID. 
          COMMISSIONER, UH, FRED ORCO SAID HALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          NEXT CASE PLEASE. 
          GREAT JOB. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          [3. ZON-26-04-0010 - Zoning Change - 534 Worthway Dr (City Council District 1). Zoning Change from Single Family-Four (SF-4) District to Single Family-Attached (SF-A) District on 0.16 acres. Lot 7, Block A, Jefferson Heights Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Single Family-4 (SF-4) District, and addressed as 534 Worthway Drive]
ITEM NUMBER THREE ZERO N 2 6 0 4 0 0 1 0 IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5 3 4 WWAY. 
          THE PROJECT IS REZONING FOR A DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY FOUR. 
          THE PROPOSED ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. 
          HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BOUNDED IN YELLOW, UM, DIRECTLY EAST AND WEST AND NORTH IS SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, SINGLE FAMILY FOR ZONING. 
          UM, MOSTLY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES. 
          UM, SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          YOU DO HAVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2024. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT BEEN A PROJECT 
          [00:30:01]
BUILT TO DATE. 
          SO IN 1948, THE JEFFERSON HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION WAS ESTABLISHED. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THAT SHOWN IN RED ALL THE WAY TO YOUR RIGHT. 
          IN 1955. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS, UH, CONSTRUCTED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE. 
          AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTING A NEW DUPLEX THAT DOES MEET THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT STANDARDS. 
          NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, NORTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WERE BUILT BETWEEN 19 40 19 50. 
          THE LIVING AREAS RANGE FROM 660 SQUARE FEET TO APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE SQUARE FEET. 
          IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROVED, THE PROPOSED DUPLEX IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM, UH, LIVING AREA OF 1200 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT. 
          AND WHILE IT'S GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, A DUPLEX WOULD INTRODUCE A HOUSING TYPE THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY CHARACTERISTIC OF THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          STAFF SENT 41 NOTICES TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          WE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I DID GIVE YOU A HARD COPY OF THE LETTERS. 
          UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ? YES. 
          THE COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE HERE YOU CAN SEE IS THIS ONE. 
          UH, THE COMMENT IS, AS A HOMEOWNER AND LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I TOTALLY OPPOSE THIS ZONE, CHANGE THIS LOOP OF WORTH WAY AND DWAY NEEDS TO REMAIN ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOME AS A LONG-TERM, AS LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS. 
          WE ARE A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY AND HAVE FOUGHT LONG AND HARD TO CLEAN UP OUR LOOP OF CRIME AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PART BECAUSE WE KEEP OUT THOSE THAT DON'T RESIDE HERE. 
          THOSE THAT DO ARE OWNERS OR RELATED TO OWNERS AND NOT SHORT, SHORT-TERM RENTERS CHANGING THE ZONE COULD CHANGE THAT. 
          THIS LOOP IS FOR LONG-TERM. 
          LIVING MYSELF FOR 45 YEARS, SHORT TERM RENTERS WILL NOT TAKE THE SAME COMMUNITY PRIDE, GETTING TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS, CLEANING THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, STREET COURTESY, NIGHT HOURS, NOISE, ET CETERA. 
          BESIDES THAT, THE LOT IS JUST TOO SMALL FOR MULTIPLE LIVING COMPLEX AND PARKING SPOTS. 
          WE DON'T NEED STREET CROWDING. 
          UM, THE SECOND OPPOSITION LETTER, THE COMMENT, UH, WAS THIS STREET HAS LONG BEEN A STREET OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND LONGSTANDING HOMEOWNERS WHO TAKE PRIDE IN OUR HOMES. 
          RENTERS TEND NOT TO DO THE SAME. 
          RENTERS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TEND TO BRING PROBLEMS AND ISSUES, NOT WELCOME TO LONG-TERM HOME HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE FOUGHT LONG AND HARD TO CLEAN OUR AREA OF NUISANCE AND ISSUES SUCH AS PROSTITUTION, DRUG USERS AND DEALERS. 
          WE NOW HAVE A CLEAN STREET ON WWAY AND DWAY AND WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          THE DRC IS UNABLE TO FULLY SUPPORT THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THATAM. 
          YES, MAAM. 
          AND YOU DID. 
          IT'S A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          DID WONDERFUL. 
          AND BOARD BRIEFING. 
          UM, I'M GONNA CHECK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER MEDINA. 
          UM, AT THE BEGINNING, DID, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT SOMEONE, UH, IN 2024, THERE WAS A SIMILAR ONE THAT IT WAS APPROVED? YES. 
          DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE, THERE ARE TWO LOTS HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT WERE REZONED TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. 
          THEY JUST WEREN'T BUILT. 
          THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT, NO. 
          SO PRESIDENT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF I MAY THOUGH, MR. MEDINA, THOSE TWO DUPLEXES, UHHUH , IF THEY ARE BUILT, THEY'LL FACE ROBERT STREET, NOT THE LITTLE ENCLAVE THAT IS MADE BY DWAY AND WWAY. 
          EARTHWAY. 
          I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTI, I MEAN THE, THE, THE VERY ARTFUL WORDS THAT SHE READ FROM THE FIRST RESIDENT WAS RIGHT. 
          THEY'VE KIND OF BUILT A, IN MY OPINION, THEY'VE BUILT A VERY NICE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD THERE THAT SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO CHANGE. 
          BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, SFA, THAT'S DEPICTED ON A MAP THAT IS NOW ZONED FOR DUPLEXES, BUT IT FACES ROBERT STREET AND I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE THE OVERALL COMPOSITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSONALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THOUGH, BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED. 
          OFFICIALLY APPROVED. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DOWN HERE? UM, THIS ONE, UM, I JUST HAVE CONCERN ABOUT, UM, CHANGING THE, UH, CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT, AND THEY SEEM LIKE A TIGHT KNIT GROUP. 
          I HOPE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE HERE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE HERE OR NOT. 
          I DON'T 
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KNOW IF THE OPPOSITION IS HERE. 
          MADAM CHAIR, BUT THE APPLICANT IS, IS HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER FCO, THIS IS YOUR AREA. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? UH, ONLY THAT MR. GRANADOS AND ROHO ELECTRIC CAN ANSWER. 
          SO YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          PRESENTATION, WHICH WANT ME LEAVE THE MAP UP. 
          UH, THE, THAT ONE. 
          THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SPEAKER CARDS. 
          ONE SPEAKER CARD. 
          JUAN GRANADOS IS HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. 
          YES. 
          PLEASE COME UP, SIR. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME'S JUAN GRANADOS. 
          I LIVE IN 8 0 2 TAPLEY STREET IN GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          AND, UH, NO PROBLEM. 
          WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO WANT TO DO THIS DUPLEX THERE? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTY WAS ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY, OR WHAT WAS THE REASON? UM, I DIDN'T THINK TOO MUCH OF IT. 
          WHENEVER YOU GUYS PROPOSED THAT IT WAS ALREADY A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, I OPPOSED AND I THOUGHT, UM, IT'LL BE A LITTLE EASIER JUST 'CAUSE I DID SEE THAT ONE ON ROBERTS THAT IT GOT DIVIDED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND ALSO MORE DOWN ON SOUTH ON ROBERTS OR MORE DOWN THERE IS MORE DUPLEXES THERE, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T CONSIDER LIKE, MAYBE IT WAS LIKE A HUGE CHANGE. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I INITIALLY THOUGHT. 
          CAN YOU POINT TO WHERE THOSE DUPLEXES ARE ON THERE? I MEAN, I CAN'T, UM, THEY'RE NOT HERE ON THE MAP. 
          THEY'RE MORE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FURTHER, THEY'RE FURTHER, THEY'RE FURTHER DOWN DOWNWARDS. 
          SO THEY'RE, SO THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT IN THIS PROXIMITY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT THEN THAT'S WHY I SAW THE ONE IN FRONT OF IT AS WELL, THAT IT GOT DIVIDED AS WELL. 
          SO I DIDN'T THINK TOO MUCH OF IT. 
          BUT NOW THAT HE DID A POINT, IT DOES FACE ROBERT STREET MM-HMM . 
          SO I DIDN'T REALLY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          SO HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS DUPLEX? UM, ONE OF THEM DID BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION, , AND HE HONESTLY SAID HE DIDN'T CARE WHAT I DID. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NOBODY ELSE CAME, UM, AND TOLD ME ANYTHING. 
          WELL, WHEN YOU COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM . 
          YOU ARE COMING INTO PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING TAXES. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP AROUND THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN AS A COURTESY, IT IS JUST GOOD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND SO IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD THING TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL OTHER CONCERNS, JOHN. 
          SURE. 
          SO, MR. GUDO, THANKS FOR COMING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, YOU, IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE CURRENT HOME THAT'S THERE? THE ONE THAT'S STANDING YES. 
          IN THE CURRENT, YEAH. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED. 
          IT'S NOT. 
          I DON'T, SO IT, IT, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IF YOU DID, UH, I, I'M GUESSING YOU DON'T CURRENTLY OWN IT, BUT IF YOU ENDED UP BUYING IT, YOU KNEW IT'S A TEAR DOWN AND IT NEEDS TO BE YEAH. 
          IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS TO BE TEARED DOWN. 
          THERE'S NO FIXING IT. 
          IF YOU HAD TO CONVINCE ME TO SAY THAT IN THAT LITTLE ENCLAVE THAT THOSE GUYS MADE THERE IN WWAY. 
          IN DWAY. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A NICE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT SOME STUFF ON THE OTHER SIDES OF IT THAT AREN'T LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I, I KNOW THAT AREA. 
          IF YOU WERE TO CONVINCE, TRYING TO CONVINCE ME AS TO WHY WE SHOULD ALLOW A DUPLEX THERE AND YOU'D BE THE ONLY DUPLEX IN THAT LITTLE AREA, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ARGUMENTS FOR DOING SO? UM, WELL, MAINLY THE ONLY THE, I HAVE TWO THINGS IN MIND THAT I WANT TO DO A DUPLEX MM-HMM . 
          UM, WHERE I LIVE, 8 0 2 TABLET IS RIGHT BEHIND IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND MOSTLY IT'S JUST 'CAUSE I WANNA LIVE CLOSER TO MY PARENTS. 
          SO TO YOU, WHAT I, I WANNA LIVE CLOSER TO MY PARENTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND MY BROTHER ALSO, HE LIVES RIGHT NOW IN A MOBILE HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BOTH LIVE IN THERE WHILE STILL STAYING CLOSE TO MY PARENTS. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY LIKE THE ONLY REASON WHY I WANTED, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SELL THAT PROPERTY, THOSE KIND OF YEAH, IT'S ALL GONE. 
          IT'S NOW, IT'S A, IT'S A RENTAL. 
          IT'S A RENTAL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT NO OTHER REASON. 
          I'VE NEVER REALLY PAID TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO IT, BUT NO, NO OTHER REASON. 
          BUT IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT I WASN'T CONVINCED BY THAT REASONING, WOULD YOU BE SHOCKED? NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THIS IS A, A HARD SELL, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CHANGE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT HAVING ANY CONVERSATIONS FOR ME WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORS. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO INITIALLY YOU'RE SAYING YOU BUILD THESE, THE DUPLEX AND YOU AND YOUR BROTHER WOULD BE LIVING IN THE DUPLEX MM-HMM . 
          AS A START, AND THEN LATER DOWN THE LINE YOU WOULD CONSIDER RENTING IT. 
          SO IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GONNA BE A PURCHASE FOR LIKE HOMEOWNER, I MEAN, SORT YEAH. 
          FOR HOMEOWNER, FOR YOU THE OWNER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER KO'S AREA. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS COMMISSIONER? MY ONLY DISCUSSION IS I'LL JUST BE TRANSPARENT. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I REALLY LIKED THE LETTERS THAT WERE WRITTEN. 
          UH, I WOULD'VE, I WOULD'VE ACTUALLY ARGUED THE SAME HAD THOSE LETTERS NOT BEEN WRITTEN. 
          BUT I, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. 
          UM, IT, 
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THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT LITTLE ENCLAVE DOES NOT NEED A DUPLEX. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON HE'S DOING IT RIGHT NOW IS FOR FAMILY. 
          BUT ONCE THAT PROPERTY'S SOLD, IT'S GONNA BE A RENTAL. 
          AND I, I MEAN, HE KNOWS IT'S A TEAR DOWN. 
          UM, AND IT'S A VERY ASPIRATIONAL THING FOR HIM TO TRY TO GET HIS FAMILY TO LIVE CLOSE TO HIM. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH, UH, IF WE DO THAT, WE SET A PRECEDENT THERE AND IT COULD, I DON'T THINK IT COULD BE GOOD FOR THAT, THE REST OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          SO I'M GONNA VOTE TO, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, TO DENY OR TO PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          NOT APPROVE. 
          UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FEDCO. 
          HE MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT. 
          NOW, THE ONLY ONE GOOD THING WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD BE IMPROVING THAT LITTLE AREA TO, UH, DEMO. 
          I MEAN, DEMO DEMOLISHING THE DILAPIDATED HOME INTO A NICE PLACE FOR SOME, FOR TWO PEOPLE TO STAY. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I REALLY DID APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF THOSE TWO HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE IT SPEAKS VOLUMES AND THAT THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER A LONG TIME. 
          AND I, I, UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ARI, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ARE YOU GOOD? NO, I'M GOOD. 
          I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I WAS, I MEAN, KNOWING NOW THAT HE WAS GONNA ACTUALLY MOVE IN WITH HIS BROTHER, UM, JUST KIND OF TUGGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, I ALSO HAVE A DUPLEX IN OUR STREET AND  RENTERS AREN'T ALWAYS FUN. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE MAYBE JUST DID A HOUSE. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND TOO. 
          COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER OLEY, COMMISSIONER COLEY. 
          YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH JOHN THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. MORE COMMISSIONER MEDINA. 
          IT'S UNFORTUNATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          THE FACT THAT HE, HE'S DOING A NOBLE THING AND WANTS TO MOVE HIS FAMILY AND THERE IS VERY UNDERSTANDABLE. 
          UH, BUT IT WOULD CHANGE THE, THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T THINK I, THE WAY I, I TEMPER THESE THINGS IS WHEN I ASK MYSELF HOW WOULD I, UH, IF IT WAS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          AND I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD MM-HMM . 
          WANT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER VER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE. 
          UM, AND CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND I'M SORRY FOR MR. GRANADOS AND HIS TIME ON THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER. 
          I THINK IT'S THREE THREE, YES. 
          ZON TWO SIX DASH OH FOUR DASH ZERO 10. 
          AND CONSISTENT WITH DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT, NOT VOTE TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? COMMISSIONER COLEY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY ITEM THREE ZERO N 2 6 0 4 0 0 1 0 S FOR DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, UH, BY COMMISSIONER FKO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER O COLEY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ON THE DENIAL ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY. 
          NEXT CASE, PLEASE. 
          [4. SUP-25-07-0024 - Specific Use Permit – Truck Parking & Outside Storage (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for Heavy Truck or Equipment Parking and Outside Storage on 4.88 acres.  Tract 22, John Farrans Survey, Abstract No. 468, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial, within the SH 16 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 490 and 500 W Oakdale Rd]
OKAY. 
          LAST CASE ITEM NUMBER FOUR SUP 2 5 0 7 0 0 2 4 IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT FOUR 90 WEST OAKDALE ROAD. 
          THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST IS FOR TRUCK PARKING AND OUTSIDE STORAGE. 
          THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND IT IS WITHIN THE SH 1 61 CORRIDOR OVERLAY. 
          HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW WITH THE PROPERTY SHOWN BOUNDED IN YELLOW. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE BOTH ZONED LI AND THE PROPERTY NORTH IS PD 2 21 THAT HAS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BASE ZONE. 
          AND ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF WEST OAKDALE ROAD ARE ZONED PD 39. 
          THAT IS FOR INDUSTRIAL AND RELATED USES. 
          SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO OPERATE A HEAVY TRUCK AND EQUIPMENT PARKING AND OUTSIDE STORAGE FACILITY THAT WILL PROVIDE PARKING AND STORAGE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, INCLUDING TRACTOR TRAILERS, SEMI TRAILERS, AND SIMILAR HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES, AS WELL AS OUTDOOR DOOR STORAGE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT SUCH AS FORKLIFTS, EXCAVATORS, SKID STEER, SKID STEERS, AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION RELATED MACHINERY. 
          AND FINALLY, OUTDOOR STORAGE OF MISCELLANEOUS MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT. 
          I DO WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE NO EMPLOYEES ON SITE FOR DAILY OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, LONG AND SKINNY. 
          SO, UM, THE EXISTING SITE DOES INCLUDE TWO EXISTING, THREE-SIDED METAL STORAGE BUILDINGS SHOWN HERE IN RED, HERE IN RED, AS WELL AS A SMALL ACCESSORY SHED STRUCTURE SHOWN ALSO IN RED. 
          IT IS, UM, BOUNDED WITH A CHAIN LINK FENCE TOPPED WITH RAZOR WIRE AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, CRUSHED CONCRETE HAS BEEN INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE VEHICLE, VEHICLE CIRCULATION, PARKING, AND OUTDOOR STORAGE 
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AREAS. 
          UM, PLAN SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A SCREENING FENCE AND AUTOMATIC GATE ALONG THE STREET, FRONTAGE ONLY, AND IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE EXISTING FENCE SHOWN RIGHT HERE, AS WELL AS A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND INTERNAL SIGNAGE TO PREVENT PARKING AND STORAGE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. 
          NO IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED TO THE EXISTING DRIVE APPROACH, INTERNAL DRIVEWAYS OR PARKING AND STORAGE SURFACES. 
          AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES LEAVING THE EXISTING SIDE AND REAR FENCING IN PLACE. 
          HERE'S A STREET VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME VARIANCES. 
          THE FIRST BEING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE EXISTING SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE TOPPED WITH RAZOR WIRE TO REMAIN ALONG THE SIDE IN REAR PROPERTY LINES. 
          AND TO ALLOW AN EIGHT FOOT TALL DURA FENCE, WHICH IS GALVANIZED STEEL WITH A PROTECTIVE COATING SCREENING FENCE AND AUTOMATIC ROLLING GATE ALONG THE WEST OAKDALE FRONTAGE. 
          THIS PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCING ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          THE PICTURE ALL THE WAY TO YOUR RIGHT. 
          IT'S HARD TO SEE. 
          UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          DO NOTE THAT THERE ARE PLASTIC SLATS ON THIS SIDE ONLY. 
          AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE IS A SAMPLE PHOTO OF THE PROPOSED DURA PANEL FENCE AND GATE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF THE EXISTING CRUSHED CONCRETE SURFACES FOR THE DRIVE APPROACH, INTERNAL DRIVEWAYS, FIRE LANES, PARKING AREAS, AND OUTDOOR STORAGE SURFACES. 
          NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF THE EXISTING DRIVE APPROACH AND INTERNAL DRIVEWAYS. 
          AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED AUTOMATIC ROLLING GATE TO BE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 51 FEET FROM THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY, RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 100 FOOT SETBACK STAFF SENT SEVEN NOTICES TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          WE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS IN SUPPORT, ZERO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, AND HERE IS A THREE SIDE SLIDE LONG RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          ONE, DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY SHALL COMPLY WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. 
          TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE THAT MEETS THE MEETS THE UDC REQUIREMENTS. 
          THREE. 
          THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE CONCRETE PAVING FOR THE DRIVE APPROACH, DRIVEWAYS, FIRE LANES, AND PARKING AND STORAGE AREAS AS REQUIRED BY THE UDC OR OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT FOR ALTERNATIVE PAVING STANDARDS. 
          I WANNA JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER FEDORKO, YOU DID ASK ABOUT THE UDC REQUIREMENT FOR CONCRETE PAVING. 
          THE PURPOSES OF THAT IS TO PREVENT OIL SPILLS, LEAKS FROM LEACHING INTO THE GROUND, SPECIFICALLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER FOUR, THE DRIVE APPROACH AND DRIVEWAY SHALL BE RECONSTRUCTED TO THE INDUSTRIAL DIMENSIONS IN THE UDC AND MEET ALL MINIMUM CITY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. 
          NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL LEAVE THE GATE OPEN DURING DAYTIME HOURS WHEN TRUCKS VEHICLES ARE QUEING IN THE PUBLIC STREET. 
          IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MOVE THE GATE BACK A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 8.4 0.3 OF THE UDC. 
          NUMBER SIX, THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. 
          NUMBER SEVEN, THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESS REGULATIONS IN THE UDC, I'M SORRY, IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          NUMBER EIGHT, THE APPLICANT SHALL PRACTICE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES LISTED IN ITS STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN NINE, SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF A FLOOD STUDY REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF A FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UDC. 
          ANOTHER NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UM, WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND HAS BEEN ISSUED A FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          NUMBER 10, A PHYSICAL BARRIER SUCH AS BOLLARDS CHAINS, FENCING, SOMETHING, UM, DELINEATING THE DESIGNATED FLOOD LANE AREA SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHALL BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO PREVENT HEAVY TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT FROM BEING PARKED IN AREAS NOT INTENDED FOR PARKING. 
          NUMBER 11, THE PROPERTY SHALL BE PLATTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, THE UDC PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE, BUILDING PERMITS OR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY 12 STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND PAVEMENT WIDTHS SHALL BE PROVIDED AS SHOWN ON THE ADOPTED MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THOROUGHFARE MAP FOR EACH CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAY. 
          AND FINALLY, NUMBER 13, COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE. 
          IT'S TOUGH TO SAY. 
          BUILDING AND FIRE CODES AS DETERMINED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AT 
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THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY APPLICATIONS IS REQUIRED. 
          MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND YOU KNOCKED THIS OUT OF THE PARK. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN A THREE PAGER IN A WHILE, , AND, BUT YOU, YOU HANDLE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE GONNA ASK. 
          'CAUSE I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE NOT HAVING NOT, UH, THE, UH, FLOODS WATERS. 
          YOU SAID ABOUT OIL LEAKS, ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU, WHY YOU NEED TO HAVE PAVEMENT, BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING AS WELL. 
          BUT THAT FLOOD, UH, PLAN THAT I GUESS THAT IS GONNA MEET THAT, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SO, YES, SO STORM THE STORM WATER POLLUTION PLAN. 
          SO THAT IS, UM, A PLAN WHEN YOU ARE CONSTRUCTING THAT INVOLVES PUTTING IN THINGS LIKE BAFFLES, EROSION CONTROL, SILT, FENCING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO KEEP CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS FROM BEING WASHED OFF THE SITE INTO OUR STORM DRAINS, INTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, INTO OUR RIVERS AND CREEKS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I IT'S ALL A LOT. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT, THAT BRETT HAS IT ALL UNDER CONTROL, RIGHT? BRETT? NOT THE FOOTPRINT. 
           THE ONLY THING I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT AND THEN NOT HAVING, NOT GOING TO, UH, CHANGE ANY OF THOSE DYNAMICS IN THE FRONT. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING. 
          NO, YOU'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY WANT TO IMPROVE, UM, THE ACCESS POINTS INTO THESE PROPERTIES WHEN THEY IMPROVE THE SITE HELPS TO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF WAY, PROTECT THE ROADS FROM GETTING DEBRIS ON THEM, AND REALLY JUST MAKES FOR SMOOTH OPERATION. 
          SO IT'S THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE OF ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, DOWN HERE? UH, YOU CUSTOMER COMMISSIONER COLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? NO. 
          JUDGE. 
          COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UM, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER MEDINA, THIS IS COMMISSIONER UH, KO'S AREA. 
          SO I'M PRETTY SURE HE HAS SOME CONCERNS FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          I THINK AARON THINKS, UH, THEY ARE HERE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONERS, WHAT SLIDE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LEAVE IT ON? SITE PLAN? YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR 13 CONDITIONS IN THE PACKET. 
          I CAN, I'LL LOOK AT 'EM ON THE, ON MY OWN COMPUTER SCREEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. 
          BOTH ARE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT HERE. 
          UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND THEY'RE BOTH IN SUPPORT. 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THEIR ATTORNEY FIRST. 
          STEPHEN DARLING. 
          THANK YOU MR. DARLING. 
          APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          STEPHEN DARLING, 2,500 DALLAS PARKWAY, PLANO, TEXAS, UH, SUITE 600. 
          UH, ALWAYS GOOD TO BE BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO HERE, BUT I'M JUST HERE TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL STUFF. 
          UH, CORRECT. 
          JUST AS AARON SAID DURING THE STAFF BRIEFING, UH, THERE IS ALREADY A LMER, THERE'S ACTUALLY A FLOODPLAIN PERMIT THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, BELIEVE FROM CHECKING MY NOTES THAT WAS OBTAINED LAST OCTOBER. 
          AND AS YOU NOTICE, THIS IS A 25 SUP. 
          KIND OF TELLS A STORY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. 
          UM, IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN UP THERE, THE BIG BLUE AREA IS KIND OF INFORMING A LOT OF WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY. 
          UH, CERTAINLY AS THE CITY KNOWS, UH, ESPECIALLY TO THE EAST, THIS IS A PRETTY FLOODPLAIN AREA ISH ZONE. 
          UH, AND SO THIS PROPERTY PARTICULARLY GOT THE, THE BETTER OF THE BARGAIN BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, EVEN WITH THE LMER, MUCH OF THE AREA CAN'T BE USED. 
          WHAT THAT MEANS IS A LOT OF THE FLOOR PLAN, IF YOU WILL, HAS BEEN KIND OF STRETCHED FORWARD. 
          AND MANY OF THE VARIANCES ARE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, CAN'T NECESSARILY BE USED FOR ITS FULLEST AND BEST USE LEGALLY, OF COURSE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LMER ISSUES. 
          UM, TOUCHING ON THE CONDITIONS, UH, WE'VE WORKED ACTUALLY VERY CLOSE WITH CITY STAFF. 
          WE APPRECIATE MS. WARE AND MS. SHEER BOTH FOR THEIR TIME. 
          UH, SO THE APPLICANT IS FULLY AWARE OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS, UM, RECOMMENDATION, EXCUSE ME. 
          WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER THOUGH ON NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, SOMETHING FAMILIAR TO, UH, MR. FEDORKO IS JUST KIND OF THE, UH, EVERYDAY USE OUT THERE. 
          UH, CONDITION THREE OR, UH, RECOMMENDATION THREE WAS THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE CONCRETE PAVING FOR DRIVE, APPROACH, DRIVEWAYS, FIRE LANES, AND PARKING AND STORAGE AREAS AS REQUIRED BY THE UDC OR OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT, UH, AND THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UH, FORMERLY ENGINEERING, UH, WE'RE IN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, BRITTANY BOWIE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          AS WELL AS, UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO RYAN HARRELL ON THE SIDE OF THE PUBLIC ENGINEERING SIDE. 
          BUT, UH, JUST ON THE EVERYDAY DAY-TO-DAY USE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONDITION OF THE AREA AND CERTAINLY ELLIE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, TOURED AROUND THE AREA AND IS FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER CONDITIONS. 
          WE CAN TALK MORE AT LENGTH ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, THIS IS AGAIN, A PROPERTY THAT, UH, HE IS NOT THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF. 
          THIS WAS, UH, 
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WHAT WE BELIEVED, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO BE A NON-CONFORMING USE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE DID GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT REGARDING THAT. 
          UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS THE SIX TO NINE VOTES. 
          SO, UH, WE DID NOT GET TO CONTINUE USING THE PROPERTY IN THAT CONDITION. 
          BUT SINCE THAT TIME, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY SINCE THAT TIME, UH, ELLIE HAS DONE WHAT A LOT OF PROPERTY DEVELOPERS MAY NOT WENT STRAIGHT INTO THE SUP AND UH, CO APPLICATIONS AND HAS CONTINUED TO WORK WITH STAFF FOR ABOUT A YEAR AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, SO FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY WANNA TALK TO ELLIE AS THE PROPERTY OWNER HIMSELF. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE ASKING AGAIN FOR THE WAIVER OF NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, NUMBER NINE COULD CERTAINLY BE LEFT ON THERE SINCE WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THAT. 
          UH, BUT THE MAIN STORY I THINK OF THIS PROPERTY AS ELLIE WILL SAY MORE TO, UH, IS REALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU COULD ONLY USE ABOUT TWO THIRDS. 
          I HAVEN'T DONE THE MEASUREMENTS MYSELF ON THERE, BUT JUST THE VISUALS ON THAT, IT'S NOT REALLY THE FULL USE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO HE'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S A, A LIMITED PROFILE AND STILL IN COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, ELLIE SHOULD BE UP THE NEXT CARD. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ANYTIME. 
          DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? SIR? SIR, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          I ABSOLUTELY, YES. 
          UH, YOU GOOD WITH, UH, CONDITION NUMBER FIVE THEN? UH, CONDITION NUMBER FIVE'S GONNA BE THE APPLICANT SHALL LEAVE THE GATE OPENING DURING DAYTIME HOURS WHEN TRUCKS AND VEHICLES ARE QUEUING. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ISN'T AN ISSUE, BUT ELLIE'S MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS ON THAT. 
          AND THE OTHER THING ON MY APPROVAL OR MY, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, UH, ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND AN APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO KEEP GRAVEL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE CASE THAT YOU'RE CITING THAT PERSON HAD CONCRETE WHERE YOU COULD SEE IF IN THE PUBLIC ROAD YOU'RE ASKING TO HAVE GRAVEL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PUBLIC ROAD. 
          IF I WERE TO GRANT THIS, IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ABOUT CONCRETE BETWEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE MOVING GATE, BUT KIND OF WHERE THEY WOULD, WOULD BE QUEUING AND WHERE PEOPLE WOULD SEE. 
          I DON'T THINK CONCRETE IS A HEAVY LIFT, BUT I'LL TALK TO YOUR CLIENT ABOUT THAT. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. NEXT CARD PLEASE. 
          SPEAKER, PLEASE. 
          UM, I'M GONNA BUTCHER THIS. 
          ELLIE ZALE. 
          HELLO THERE. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          UH, UH, ELLIE AMLA, UH, FOUR 80 OR FOUR 90 WEST OAKDALE ROAD, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS, 7 5 0 5 0. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND TAKING ON SUCH A BIG PROJECT. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          IT MIGHT BANKRUPT ME, BUT , , I'M TRYING MY HARDEST TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET IT DECLINED. 
          SO WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR, FOR TAKING THIS ON THIS VENTURE? UM, WELL, YEAH. 
          WELL, SO THIS STARTED OVER A YEAR AGO, I THINK NOW AT THIS POINT, WHEN WE APPLIED FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, UH, EXPECTING, UH, TO, TO GET, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE APPLIED FOR, UM, TO GET THE ELECTRIC UP AND RUNNING ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN THEY SAID THAT WE NEEDED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          AND, UM, WE REALIZED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE WENT TO APPLY, I, WE HAD, WE HAD, ME AND MY BROTHER BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I WORKED VERY HARD TO, TO, TO PAY AND, AND INVEST IN. 
          UM, AND WE BOUGHT THIS, ASSUMING JUST BASED ON, UM, ONE OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY AT THE TIME, JONATHAN TOOEY, I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          WE KNOW JOHN. 
          AND SO I, HE IMPLIED THAT, THAT WE WERE, UH, UH, BASICALLY ALLOWED TO KEEP THE SITE AS IS. 
          AND WE, I HAD, THAT'S WHY I, I, I HAD I THINK THE SIX TO NINE VOTE THAT, THAT STEVEN WAS REFERRING TO MM-HMM . 
          UM, WHY IT WAS CLOSE. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY PLANNING AND, AND, AND GO, GO THROUGH THE PROPER STEPS. 
          BUT WE HAD ASSUMED, UM, JUST BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE USE AS IS SINCE IT HAD BEEN THAT USE FOR ABOUT 20 TO 30 YEARS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I WAS A 25-YEAR-OLD KID WHEN, OR WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS. 
          NOW I'M A 30-YEAR-OLD KID, . 
          UM, AND, UH, I MADE A BAD MISTAKE, NOT REALLY, UH, DRILLING IN ON THE FACT THAT IF THAT WAS APPROVED OR NOT. 
          I, I DON'T THINK I, I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY HAD I KNOWN THAT THE USE WAS TOTALLY NOT ALLOWED AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY CAN TO GET IN COMPLIANCE, UH, AS, AS YOU SEE WITH THIS PLAN, AS YOU SEE WITH WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT STEVEN'S DOING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. 
          UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, BASICALLY THAT, BASICALLY THAT'S IT. 
          SO, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I'M LOSING NOW TWO THIRDS OF MY PROPERTY BASE, OR SORRY, A THIRD OF MY PROPERTY NOW TO THAT I CAN'T USE FOR THE FLOODPLAIN MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE GOAL WAS TO NOT DO ANY WORK AT ALL TO THE SITE AND JUST KEEP EVERYTHING AS IS AND KEEP 
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THE, THE OPERATIONS JUST CONSISTENT, WHAT IT'S BEEN FOR THE PAST, AGAIN, 20, 30 YEARS. 
          UM, BUT OF COURSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          YOU KNOW, I, UH, BEFORE THAT WHOLE BACK ACREAGE IN THE BLUE WAS, WAS USABLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE, THEY WERE USING THAT FOR THE PRIOR OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CHAIN LINK FENCE AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S GOING ON. 
          IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GRAVEL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FOR TRUCK PARKING, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M DOING WHATEVER I CAN TO JUST GET THIS INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I, YEAH, I MEAN, WHATEVER WE, WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR HONESTY ON THAT AND YOUR TRANSPARENCY. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          I, ALL I CAN DO IS, THAT'S ALL I CAN DO. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, C COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PERKO? YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO SAY YOUR LAST NAME, SO I'LL JUST SAY, WELL, SHE GOT IT PRETTY MUCH, RIGHT? I MEAN, COULD YOU SAY IT AGAIN FOR ME? AMAG, UH, A YEAH. 
          ZA LOG. 
          YEAH. 
          PERFECT. 
          ZA LOG. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW'S SPELLED? WELL, IT'S, I'M TRYING. 
          SO MR. ZALO, UM, YOU'RE OKAY WITH NUMBER FIVE THEN? UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, I GUESS SOMETHING THAT I GUESS WANTED TO JUST TALK MORE ABOUT AND, AND HEAR KIND OF WHERE, WHAT THE KIND OF OPERATIONS ARE THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IDEALLY, NO. 
          I MEAN, IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, THE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE STORED ON SITE ARE PRETTY VALUABLE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND PEOPLE WHILE, WHILE ON ONE END, I WOULD SAY LIKE DURING THE DAY, MAYBE YOU HAVE LESS THEFT, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE A GATE OPEN. 
          UM, BUT ON THE OTHER END, I KNOW THAT LIKE ANY PERSON THAT IF I RENT OUT THE PROPERTY TO, THEY'RE GONNA WANT A SECURE YARD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY COME TO THESE LOCATIONS SO THEY CAN HAVE A SECURE YARD THAT THEY KNOW THAT NO ONE WILL COME IN AND STEAL IT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. 
          AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE WANTS YOU TO GO BANKRUPT. 
          ERIN, CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK? I APPRECIATE. 
          I'M ALMOST THERE AT THIS POINT. 
          I'M LIKE, AND YOU'RE, AND I CAN GET INTO THOSE DETAILS IF YOU WANT. 
          NO, IT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S NOT REALLY PUBLIC INFORMATION NEEDED, BUT, UM, I'M MORE, WHAT'S THAT? OH, THE SITE PLAN IS ACTUALLY WOULD BE, BUT IT'S OKAY. 
          UM, NOBODY WANTS YOU TO GO BANKRUPT AND YOU HAVE A, I I MEAN, I LIKE YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE GETTING INTO BUSINESS. 
          I THINK THAT'S VERY ADMIRABLE VIEW. 
          UM, HOWEVER, MY BIG CONCERN, 'CAUSE I, THIS IS MY PRECINCT, IF YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC GATE, POWER'S DOWN, SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT KEY CARD, GUY CAN'T FIND THE PHONE TRUCKS START QUEUING THERE, AND THEY COME FROM, THEY'RE TURNING LEFT AND TURNING RIGHT IN THERE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA BLOCK THAT STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THOSE ARE BIG VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO PARK THERE. 
          SO, UM, UH, I'M HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          SO I WANT, I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT QUEUING HAS, HAS THERE. 
          AND THERE'S ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT, IT'S A, IT, IT IS A MANUAL GATE NOW, AND AT POINTS IT WAS CLOSED COMPLETELY. 
          AND YOU'D HAVE TRUCKS THAT WOULD DRIVE THERE AND DRIVE UP TO IT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE TRUCK AND THEN MANUALLY OPEN IT AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GET BACK INTO THE TRUCK AND SO FORTH. 
          THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN THERE, I MEAN, OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT FOR SURE. 
          UM, BUT THERE, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY QUEUING. 
          UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. 
          WE'VE OWNED IT FOR LIKE ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW. 
          WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. 
          BUT THAT ALSO SAID THAT 51 FEET BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE, THE, THE GATE MM-HMM . 
          UM, IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR A TRUCK TO DRIVE FULLY INTO THAT AREA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND, AND, UH, AND WAIT TO BE, TO BE IN THERE. 
          AND THE, AND THE, THE APPROACH IS VERY, VERY WIDE, THAT YOU CAN EASILY HAVE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TRUCKS DRIVING. 
          THERE'S, I DON'T THINK YOU EVEN HAVE THREE TRUCKS IN THERE, BUT THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          BUT AGAIN, BEST LAID PLANS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE AND HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS IN THE FIELD WHEN IT NEEDS TO, WHEN THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT. 
          SO LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS I ACTUALLY KIND OF SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DO THINK, THOUGH, THAT WITH YOUR AUTOMATIC GATE, I THINK CONDITION, CONDITION FIVE TO ME IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING CONCRETE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SITE. 
          I DON'T LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF CONCRETE WHERE IT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD UNTIL YOUR PRIVATE FENCE, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE IS, DO YOU WANT THAT AT 51 FEET OR DO YOU WANT THAT AT A HUNDRED FEET? YEAH, I MEAN, LISTEN, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME IT'S EITHER OR, OF COURSE I'M GONNA SAY YEAH, KEEP THE GATE OPEN AT 51 FEET. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? SO, I'M SORRY, YOU, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO BANKRUPT, BUT I'M JUST, I MEAN, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE THING. 
          SO LIKE THE, THE, THE PERSPECTIVE TENANTS THAT, THAT WOULD COME UP HERE, UM, AND, AND WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE A SECURE, UM, LOT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT I'M ALREADY LOSING 
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A THIRD OF MY PROPERTY TO THE BACK FOR FLOODPLAIN THAT WE HAVE TO BLOCK OFF. 
          WHICH, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE FEMA REQUIRES IN YOUR, IN YOUR LAWS REQUIRE. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE IN FLOODPLAIN. 
          AND I GET THAT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE LOSS TO ME. 
          BUT I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. 
          THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          UM, BUT, UH, IF YOU THEN TAKE THAT 50 FEET IN THE FRONT AND YOU BRING IT BACK A HUN A HUNDRED FEET, I'M LOSING AGAIN, ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW, A, A VERY GOOD CHUNK OF, OF THAT SPACE THAT, AGAIN, CAN'T BE USABLE BECAUSE NO ONE'S GONNA WANT TO USE THE SPACE THAT ISN'T FENCED IN. 
          SO THEN YOU'RE PUSHING BACK YOUR, THE, THE SPACE THAT I CAN USE ALREADY FROM THE, FROM THE NORTH, I'M, I'M LOSING A LOT OF THE SPACE. 
          UM, I, I, IT NEEDS TO BE THAT 51 FEET, WHICH IS WHERE THE, THE, THE FENCE IS. 
          IT'S, I'M NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE IT. 
          I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING TO MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE STREET LOOK TO LEAVE IT AS IS. 
          I, I'M, I'M KIND OF LIKE IN A TOUGH SPOT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN, THERE IS A LEVER THAT YOU CAN UNLOCK THE, UM, DON'T, I MEAN, DON'T BEAT THIS TO THE THIEVES, BUT THERE IS A LEVER WHERE YOU CAN UNLOCK THE, THE GATE AND USE IT MANUALLY IF THE GATE IS JAMMED UP OR NOT WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE GATE OPERATOR. 
          UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S THE BACKSTOP THAT IF THE GATE GETS JAMMED UP, UM, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, I GUESS A BACKUP OF TRUCKS, UH, ONTO THE, ONTO THE STREET. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT, LOOK, IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT, EITHER IT'S A HUNDRED FEET OR 50 FEET WITH THEIR, WITH THE GATE OPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING BUSINESS HOURS, I'D SAY, YEAH. 
          LIKE, LET'S DO THAT. 
          I'M JUST REALLY WORRIED THAT MY TENANTS, UH, MY FUTURE TENANTS, THEY WON'T BE HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT THE GATE IS GONNA BE OPEN DURING THE DAY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          GONNA LET, UH, RASHARD YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE FENCE ITSELF CAN STAY AT THE 51 FEET. 
          IT IS THE GATE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THE GATE . 
          SO, SO HE'S STATING THAT HE'S GONNA LOSE THAT A HUNDRED FEET OR ADDITIONAL 50 FEET, AND HE'S NOT, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO THE WEST HAS THE A HUNDRED FOOT DRIVE IN THE GATE, BUT THEIR FENCE IS AT THE 50 FOOT MARK. 
          SO THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AND ACTUALLY STORE STUFF UP TO THE FENCE. 
          HE COULD STILL USE THE AREA. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          SO A DIFFICULT PART ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU, UH, MR. JACKSON. 
          UM, THE, THE DIFFICULT PART WITH THAT IS MY PROPERTY IS SO SKINNY, AND I, AND WE SPOKE, I SPOKE ABOUT THIS ON THE LAST, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD, THAT MY PROPERTY IS SO SKINNY THAT IT'S, IT'S VIR IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS YOU DO IT PERFECTLY TO TURN AROUND IN THE PROPERTY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. 
          YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY LIKE, BLOCKING AREAS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE TURNAROUND SPACE. 
          SO THAT ENTRANCE RIGHT OVER THERE MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IF YOU WERE TO BRING IT INTO THE A HUNDRED FEET MAKES, WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET INTO THOSE CORNERS, YOU KNOW, ON THE PROPERTY. 
          WHEREAS THE PROPERTY THAT HE'S REFERRING TO, WHICH IS THE ZACHARY CONSTRUCTION PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR, UM, OR NOW I THINK MEI OR, OR SOMEONE, UM, THEY, THEY'VE GOT A HUGE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT 15 ACRES OR SO. 
          I'VE GOT 4.8 ACRES, THE BACK ACRES ABOUT AN ACRE AND CHANGE IS NOT USABLE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY 50 FEET IN. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, I THINK ABOUT 200 FEET WIDE OR SO. 
          AND YOU, YOU TAKE ANY MORE SPACE OUT OF THERE AT THIS, HAD I KNOWN THAT SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS WERE IN PLACE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE. 
          I PROBABLY WOULD'VE JUST LEFT IT, LEFT IT IN PLACE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WAS TO GET THIS INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, AND WE DIDN'T GET THE, WE DIDN'T GET ANY VIOLATIONS. 
          WE'VE OWNED THIS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW. 
          WE DIDN'T GET ANY VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT, WHICH WOULD MAKE US GET HERE TODAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG TO OUR KNOWLEDGE UP UNTIL, TO THE POINT WHERE WE APPLIED FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          WE DID IT PROACTIVELY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          AND NOW I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST GETTING TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, HIT AND DINGED ON THIS BOTH, I KNOW ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO PAVE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SITE. 
          I, I TOTALLY CAN'T AFFORD THAT. 
          I MEAN, AND, AND, AND IF I MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT, I WILL NOT ASK HIM. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED EITHER. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF YOUR GATE. 
          BUT EVEN I'M SAYING LIKE, EVEN ALSO THAT FRONT PORTION OF 50, I MEAN, THAT COULD COST ME LIKE OVER 200 THOU, HUNDRED THOUSAND, $200,000. 
          I CAN'T AFFORD THAT. 
          I, LIKE, I, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOUR REASONING BEHIND THAT. 
          AND I HATE TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, SAYING I CAN'T AFFORD IT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU REQUIRE ME TO DO THAT, UH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          AND, AND I, I WANT TO GET THIS PROPERTY UP AND RUNNING AND IN COMPLIANCE AND DO EVERYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S DONE. 
          AND I WILL NOTE, AND I MEANT TO SEND THIS TO, TO AARON, UM, THE WHOLE LIKE, UH, LIKE A LIST OF ALL THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND ME, UM, 
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THAT ARE GRAVELED EVEN UP UNTIL THE, THE ENTRANCE, THE PROPERTY JUST IN THE, JUST IN THE, THE VERY CLOSE VICINITY. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY, MANY LOTS. 
          I MEAN, RIGHT ACROSS, UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN, YOU CAN SEE IT OVER HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THESE TWO PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE, THIS ONE AND THIS ONE, WHICH I THINK, AND I, AND I HIGHLIGHTED THOSE BEFORE, BUT THOSE ARE, I THINK, HAVE, UM, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY IN, IN COMPLIANCE. 
          THOSE ARE ALL GRAVELED, RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET ALSO, YOU KNOW, GRAVELED AND A BUNCH OF SITES, UH, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE STREET, UH, TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST, DOWN SOUTH, THOSE ARE ALL GRAVELED WITH NO PAVEMENT, YOU KNOW, UM, AT ALL. 
          SO LIKE, I, YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST, I, I, FOR ME, LIKE WE, WE'VE, WE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LOM, WITH, WITH FEMA, WITH THE LMER, TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SPEND MONEY TO, UH, DO THE SITE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEMA, WHICH WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING. 
          AND THAT'S COSTING ME SO MUCH MONEY, WHICH I, I CAN'T AFFORD. 
          BUT I'M, I'M PRAYING, I'M PRAYING, I'M PRAYING THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE, I CAN PAY BACK EVERYTHING, ALL, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT, THAT I'M, THAT I'M PUTTING INTO THIS. 
          ANY, ANY MORE WORK, ANY MORE MONEY, I'M, I HONESTLY, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I, I, YEAH. 
          WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN HONEST, YOU'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT. 
          SO WE WILL SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR RASHAD, I GUESS. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          RASHAD, I MEAN, IS ALL THESE UDC REQUIREMENTS, ARE THEY, BECAUSE THEY'RE UPDATED AND ONLY BECAUSE, UM, HE'S APPLYING FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT, I MEAN, ALL THESE OTHER PROPERTIES AND THE EXISTING PROPERTY FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY WERE JUST LIKE, IT, IT WAS, THEY WERE GRANDFATHER, YEAH. 
          COULDN'T FIND THE WORD. 
          SORRY. 
          THEY HAD BEEN IN OPERATION. 
          YES. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF WHEN THESE WERE IMPLEMENTED, BUT YES, ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE A NEW CO AND A BUSINESS HAS SLEPT SET DORMANT, AND THEY START A NEW BUSINESS, THEY HAVE TO BRING THE BUSINESS UP TO CODE. 
          AND THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS TO CODES. 
          UM, I WILL ADD THAT, THAT THE FENCE, AS I MENTIONED, IS AT THE 50 FEET. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAVING THAT GATE OPEN. 
          REASON WHY IT WAS A CONSIDERATION TO LEAVE THE GATE OPEN WAS, UH, OR TO LEAVE TO BE OKAY TO BE LEAVE, LEAVE TO LEAVE THE FENCE THERE. 
          AND, AND WE SAID, OKAY, IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, THE GATE WILL NEED TO STAY OPEN. 
          SO THAT WAS A COMPROMISE STAT. 
          INSTEAD OF REQUIRING THE A HUNDRED FOOT, THAT'S WHERE, UH, I THINK MANY OF US WERE SAYING, YES, THIS IS THIS UDC REQUIREMENT. 
          WE DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUES AT THIS POINT, BUT IF THERE ARE ISSUES, WE WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT GATE OPEN AND REMAIN OPEN. 
          SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU THAT NO. 
          ONE SECOND. 
          SORRY. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RASHAD, YOU'RE ALMOST SAYING, UH, GIVE IT A TRIAL AT 51 FEET WITH A CARD READER AND IF WE DON'T GET TRAFFIC AND BRETT AND POLICE SAYING COMPLAINTS THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM, THAT HE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK THAT WAY? YES. 
          YES. 
          I, I, I, I, THAT'S AN AMAZING COMPROMISE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE A PROBLEM. 
          AND IF IT, WELL, THAT'S, WE'LL LET THE FACTS SPEAK WHERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          LIKE, IF THAT, IF IT DOES BECOME A PROBLEM, I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR. 
          I THINK THAT'S THAT WE EITHER LEAVE IT OPEN OR, YEAH. 
          AND JANIE, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE HE'S JUST A 30-YEAR-OLD KID TRYING TO GET INTO BUSINESS. 
          HE'S REALIZING THAT WHEN YOU'RE GRANDFATHERED IN, DON'T GO TO THE CITY. 
          IT'S BETTER TO KIND OF KEEP YOUR HEAD LOW. 
          'CAUSE THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE WANNA SHACKLE YOU WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER COSTS. 
          , I, AGAIN, I I'M, I WAS NAIVE. 
          I WAS NAIVE, UH, EXPECTING THAT, THAT I, THAT I COULD JUST CONTINUE DOING WELL, WHATEVER IS, IS WHAT IT IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOT REALIZING THIS. 
          ONE THING THAT I DID WANNA MENTION, WHICH IS THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, UM, THEY WERE NOT GRANDFATHERED IN, UM, IN 20 THIR, I THINK IT'S 2010 OR 2015 OR 2013. 
          AND 2015 IS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR THEIR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. 
          AND THEY WERE NOT, UH, I, I THINK GRANDFATHERED. 
          AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THOSE CONDITIONS WERE THERE BACK THERE AT THAT TIME. 
          WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET MOVING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM. 
          FOR YOUR INPUT. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          ANY OTHER, ANY HAVE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? COMMISSIONER? FEDCO, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UH, NO, NOT A CONCERN. 
          JUST A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? RECOGNITION TO RASHAD FOR? I DIDN'T, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY. 
          BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 
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WE CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH, I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE THIS GUY TO BE ABLE TO, TO OPERATE THIS. 
          AND IF YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN DO IT ON A, ON A TRIAL BASIS TO SEE IF THERE ARE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OUT THERE, I THINK THAT'S OUR INTENT WAS ONLY HAVE THE GATE OPEN IF IT CREATED AN ISSUE. 
          NOW, HOW DO I PUT THAT IN THE RECOMMENDATION? HOW DO I WORD THAT? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? WELL, IT'S OKAY IF, CAN YOU PULL UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALREADY TECHNICALLY IN THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          THINK AS AS IT IS, I WOULD SAY AS IS. 
          AND THEN I THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, BINARY. 
          YOU EITHER HAD TO LEAVE IT OPEN ALL THE TIME. 
          IT WASN'T LIKE, NO, WHEN THE QUEUING OCCURS IN THE PUBLIC STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO IF THERE ARE ISSUES, THEN HE'S GOT TWO OPTIONS TO SOLVE THOSE ISSUES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO FIVE SAYS IT AS RASHAD ARTICULATED IT. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW I WILL SAY FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS UNLESS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO OPEN IT MM-HMM . 
          AND NOBODY'S ON SITE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT SUP DOESN'T IT GET IT REVIEWED EVERY YEAR? Y'ALL CAN ESTABLISH A REVIEW TIME PERIOD. 
          I CAN'T READ LIPS, SIR. 
          WELL, SHE WAS SPEAKING SO I LET HER SPEAK. 
          BUT YES, YOU CAN ESTABLISH THAT AS A RENEWAL PERIOD. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, I, I'M FINE WITH THE WHAT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW NUMBER FIVE IS MEANT TO WORK. 
          BUT AS LONG AS WE GET A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, IT'S BEEN WORKING, OR NO, IT HASN'T BEEN WORKING, WE NEED TO CHANGE STUFF AROUND. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE ADD A REVIEW, UH, IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SOME KIND OF, AS LONG AS IT'S AT SOME POINT, WHATEVER Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE, SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR. 
          BRETT, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT? WELL, JUST SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS OF, OF WHAT WE DO ON THESE IS WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE A SEPARATE PERMIT BE ISSUED FOR FENCING AND GATES WITHIN THE CITY. 
          WHEN WE HAVE CONDITIONS LIKE THIS OR CONDITIONS THAT AREN'T PART OF AN SUP THAT ARE JUST PART OF THAT PERMIT WILL INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION. 
          SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, OR PD CAN LOOK AND SEE WAS THIS THE INTENDED USE, UH, OR OPERATION OF THIS PERMIT. 
          AND IF IT'S, THEY LOOK AT THAT PERMIT AND SEE THAT THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT IF THERE WAS QUEUING THAT THAT GATE NEEDS TO BE OPEN, UM, THEN THEY CAN HANDLE THAT AT, AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THERE'S A SEPARATE MECHANISM IN PLACE, UM, IN CASE THERE ARE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALREADY BAKED INTO THE PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS WOULD JUST, THIS WOULD JUST ADD AN EXTRA LAYER TO IT. 
          SO WHEN WE GO TO DO THE PERMITTING, WE WOULD JUST PULL THE LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THE SUP AND HAVE THAT SAME CONDITION IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD, ARE YOU READY, COMMISSIONER? SO, BUT THE DISCUSSION I WOULD HAVE IS, I, I WAS GOING EXACTLY WHERE JANIE WAS GOING IS THAT, BUT FOR CONDITIONS CHANGING AND, BUT FOR HIM CHANGING HIS OPERATIONS, HE'S GOING WITH HAVING TO DO WITH THE ALL CEMENT. 
          I'M JUST TORN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO REQUIRE THAT FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD TO THE 51ST. 
          WELL, I, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE IT A SHOT AS IS. 
          I THINK THAT HE'S BEEN HONEST. 
          HE'S BEEN TRANSPARENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE WON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, ATTORNEY BULL SAID, WE WON'T KNOW SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS MAY HAPPEN WHEN NOBODY'S THERE. 
          WE WON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT QUEUING REALLY. 
          SO I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE HIM A SHOT AND GIVE HIM THE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST TRY. 
          AND THEN IF THERE'S ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD, THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT. 
          IF WE MAYBE DO SIX MONTHS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF SIX MONTHS IS TOO SHORT, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIMEFRAME SHOULD BE. 
          AND WHAT IF HE DOESN'T GET A CUSTOMER WITHIN SIX MONTHS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. 
          I MEAN, THE LANGUAGE ON THAT, IT'S JUST, I'M JUST SAYING, I WOULD SAY TO APPROVE IT A AS IS AND TO TRY TO WORK WITH, WORK WITH HIM ON TRYING TO GET THESE, UH, VARIANCES. 
          I MEAN THE WORK WITH HIM ON, ON, ON WHAT THE, WE WANT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WANTS. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I, THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING I WOULD JUST SAY IS THAT I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING HIS EFFORTS HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I JUST WOULD PROBABLY NOT. 
          UM, IT'S A, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HE PAVES. 
          HE'S SAYING THAT IF HE HAS TO PAVE ANY OF IT EVEN 50 MM-HMM . 
          50 FEET, 51 FEET, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR HIM. 
          WAY. 
          WELL, I THINK HE HAS TO HAVE, HAVE SOME CONCESSION. 
          I MEAN, IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE GONNA 50 FEET. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COSTS, BUT IF THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE, THAT'S ALL I WAS. 
          YEAH. 
          I HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE THE NEED. 
          WHY IT NEEDS TO BE PAVED ON THE, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE FENCE. 
          MY BIG STICK IS IT, IF IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE ON THE, SEE THE SIDE, YEAH. 
          IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS BETTER. 
          AND, BUT, BUT FOR THE FACT THAT HE IS CHANGING, UH, THE USE THAT HE COULD HAVE CONTINUED OPERATING THIS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT THAT I THINK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THE, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THIS AND POTENTIALLY BANKRUPTING HIM BECAUSE HE HAD TO GET A, A CHANGE OF PERMIT OR 
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YEAH. 
          WHATEVER. 
          A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND HE'S LOSING LAND. 
          I'D LIKE TO TRY TO WORK WITH HIM YES. 
          AND TRY TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO JUST, IF WE HAVE TO SPELL OUT ANY DIFFERENT, OR AS CON CONCERNS COME UP, WE DEAL WITH THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STATE THAT. 
          WELL, YOU WOULD SAY I, IF, IF I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT HE'S SAYING THAT HE CAN MAKE IT WORK IS IF YOU DELETE NUMBER THREE. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          STRIKE THREE. 
          IF YOU TAKE HIM AT HIS WORK, THEN NUMBER THREE HAS TO COME OUT AND YES. 
          I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE CAN DO THIS TRIAL AND HAS A 12 MONTH LOOK BACK AND YOU CAN SEE IF THERE'S, 'CAUSE IF THERE'S NO TRAFFIC, THEN I THINK THE AUTOMATIC GATE IS GREAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          HE DOESN'T HAVE A PERSON OUT THERE. 
          IT'S PERFECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          YEP. 
          WHAT ABOUT YOU, COMMISSIONER COLEY? LET'S NUGG IT OFF. 
          WHAT ABOUT YOU, COMMISSIONER MEDINA? WELL, I MEAN, UM, THE TWO STICKY POINTS HERE, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FIVE, AND NUMBER FIVE REALLY BECOMES A MOOD POINT IF YOU READ THE VERBIAGE CORRECTLY BECAUSE IT SAYS THE APPLICANT SHALL LEAVE THE GATE OPEN DURING DAYTIME HOURS. 
          UH, IF, IF THE TRUCK ARE CUING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE OR THEY'RE NOT. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          LIKE WE CAN'T EVEN DETERMINE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO IMPOSE THAT ON THEM AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GOTCHA. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          COMMISSIONER FOR DARKO, IT'S ON YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          ALTHOUGH I WILL JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU GRANT THIS EXCEPTION AND WE'LL, I'LL TAKE OUT NUMBER THREE, BUT THAT JUST MEANS OTHER PEOPLE GET TO COME AND SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU DO THIS FOR MR, I FORGET HIS NAME ALREADY. 
          WELL, EVERYTHING IS CASE BY CASE, DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESS. 
          AND THEY HAVE TO COME AND, AND, AND, AND DO THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. 
          SO I I, I DISAGREE ON THAT. 
          I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          ALL OF THESE CASES ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          AND IF HE'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FIVE YEARS ALREADY, UM, AND THAT HE'S TRYING TO STAY IN GRAND PRAIRIE, I, I, I JUST UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S THE NORMAL PRACTICE OF THE CITY AND TRUST ME, I'VE HAD TO DO IT MYSELF. 
          BUT WHEN YOU REDO SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO WHATEVER THE CURRENT CODE IS AND THAT'S JUST NOT HOW HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. 
          THIS IS ITEM FOUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ITEM FOUR, ITEM FOUR. 
          AND, UM, VOTE TO APPROVE. 
          BUT WE, UM, DELETE ITEM THREE OF THE PAVING AND, UM, WE HAVE THE, THE LOOK BACK THAT BRETT AND RASHAD AGREED OR TALKED ABOUT FOR THE TRAFFIC QUEUING. 
          IF IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WHEN THE SUP COMES UP AGAIN IN A YEAR, WE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARI, UH, TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR SUP 2 5 0 7 0 0 2 4 AS PER AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATION MINUS ITEM THREE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND MADAM CHAIR ELSE, BEFORE Y'ALL LEAVE A VOTE, I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY. 
          ARE YOU REMOVING ONLY THREE OR THREE AND FOUR? ARE THEY DIFFERENT? BECAUSE, CAN HE HAVE THE DIMENSIONS BUT HAVE IT GRAVEL? BECAUSE I, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I WAS READING THAT. 
          'CAUSE I DO, THEY GO TOGETHER. 
          'CAUSE THE, I I'LL, I'LL ANSWER. 
          SO WITH THE DRIVER APPROACH, SO SPECIFICALLY IT'S A LATTER PART OF NUMBER FOUR WHERE IT SAYS MEET ALL MINIMUM CITY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. 
          WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL APPROACHES THAT IS CONCRETE. 
          SO THERE IS THAT REQUIREMENT FOR APPROACH. 
          SO DO YOU NEED TO FOR THAT? AND SO ONCE YOU GET PAST THE GATE OR PAST THE PROPERTY LINE INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DISTINCTION FROM CONCRETE INTO GRAVEL, UM, GOES. 
          IT'S NO LONGER THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THAT BE GREAT. 
          SO TIFFANY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO I NEED TO MODIFY MY MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT YES, NUMBER FOUR IS OFF THE STRIKE? UH, YES. 
          SO YOU WOULD WANT TO REMOVE THREE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE REQUIREMENT TO COMPLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MODIFY MY MOTION OR WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND PROPOSE A NEW ONE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ITEM FOUR BY, UM, PER DRC, ALL DC DRCS RECOMMENDATION EXCEPT FOR STRIKING RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE. 
          AND TO MODIFY SUGGESTION NUMBER FOUR TO, UM, REMOVE THE, UH, MINIMUM CITY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO CONCRETE. 
          AND YOU STILL WANT THE ONE YEAR REVIEW? YES. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THE ONE YEAR REVIEW AND STILL SECOND, HAVE A MOTION ON FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS MINUS ITEMS THREE AND MOD, UM, MODIFICATIONS ON FOUR AND THE ONE YEAR REVIEW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS SAID. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE LAST CASE AND, UM, THE, UH, MEETING IS CLOSED AT 8:10 PM ADJOURNED. 
          ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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