* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] TIME [CALL TO ORDER] AT 6:00 PM WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THE BUILDING ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD. FIRST [1. Minutes of the Monday, February 2, 2026 Building Advisory and Appeals Board Meeting] ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, MINUTES FROM, UH, FEBRUARY 2ND, 2026. SHOULD I LET THE, UH, BOARD HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? HOW DO I CAN MAKE A MOTION? OKAY. IF I COULD. YES, MA'AM. UH, THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES? YES. UH, FROM FEBRUARY 2ND. I'LL SECOND THAT. HAVE A MOTION. ADD A SECOND. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIED BY VOTE. SIX ZERO. NEXT ITEM ON [2. Hearing Concerning Dangerous Structure(s) located at 1605 Acosta] THE AGENDA IS A HEARING CONCERNING DANGEROUS STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1605 ACOSTA STAFF. WELL, LET ME GET GOING ON THIS ONE. I HAD, UH, WELL, HE GETS READY, ERRONEOUSLY PULLED UP THE WRONG ONE. HE GETS READY. JOE, HERE. AND MR. MR. WHO? TIM? UM, THOMAS. HE'S WITH THE BANK. OH, OKAY. HE'S GONNA TALK. OKAY. THERE WE GO, THOMAS. YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. SOME. SOMEHOW I FLASHED BACK TO OCTOBER. DON'T WANNA DO THAT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE BACK HERE AT 60.05 ACOSTA. THIS IS BACK IN, I GUESS, MAY OF 2023. UH, WE FOUND THE HOLE IN THE ROOF AND WE'VE BEEN HERE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES NOW, OVER AND OVER. UH, THIS WAS DAMAGED ON THE INSIDE. UH, THE DAMAGE PHASE. THE SAME EACH, EACH MEETING THAT WE'VE HELD. UH, THERE'S A PROMISE OF FUNDING TO GET THE ROOF REPAIRED AND REPAIRS MADE, AND, AND THAT BECAUSE OF THE PROMISE OF GRANTED EXTENSIONS 30 DAYS HERE AND, OR EVEN YEAH, 30 DAYS. WELL, THE LAST TIME IN FEBRUARY, UH, WE THOUGHT WE WERE AT THE END OF THE ROPE. AND MS. MALONE FOUND OUT THAT NIGHT DURING THE MEETING THAT SHE HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR FUNDING. AND LO AND BEHOLD, SURE ENOUGH, SHE WAS APPROVED. SHE GOT FUNDED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND, UH, SO THAT BRINGS US UP TO, THIS WAS THE OTHER DAY. THEY ORDERED MATERIALS AND, AND THEY STARTED TO TAKE IT OFF SO WISELY, UH, THE CONTRACTOR CONTACTED OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND SAID, WHAT DO WE, WHAT I REALLY NEED TO DO TO GET THIS, AT LEAST THE ROOF FIXED UP TO CODE. AND HE WENT OUT AND DID A RE-INSPECTION. AND HE DISCOVERED IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE DAMAGE, BECAUSE OF THE HOLES IN THE ROOF AND THE RESULTING DAMAGE ON THE INSIDE, THAT THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE FROM HERE. AND SO, UH, IT RELAYED TO ME THAT THAT WAS GOING TO PROBABLY MORE THAN THE FUNDING THAT SHE HAD TO FIX JUST THE ROOF. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE RECOMMENDED FINDINGS. THAT BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S STANDARDS SUBSTANDARD AND DANGEROUS. AND THE ORIGINAL ORDERS WERE TO REPAIR, REMOVE, OR DEMOLISH IN 30 DAYS. THAT ORDER NOW STANDS UNTIL MARCH 4TH, UH, WHEN, WHEN IT EXPIRES. ESSENTIALS LAST EXTENSION. UH, THIS IS THE PROGRESS REPORT THAT SHE SUBMITTED. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. UH, SHE'S HERE NOW. THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT SHE WOULD, HAD SOME IDEAS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO NOW OR WHAT THEY COULD DO, AND I'M GONNA LET HER EXPLAIN THAT 'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I WOULD TALK TO HER SINCE THEN. I WENT BY TODAY AND THAT WAS THE, WHAT? YOU SAW THAT LAST PICTURE. THAT WAS SATURDAY. IT LOOKS THE SAME TODAY. THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? [00:05:01] ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? NO. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO. OKAY. MS. MALONE, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. WHAT YOU GET HERE. HELLO, I'M JILL MALONE. ADDRESS, 1 6 0 5 AKASHA STREET, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 1. MM-HMM . AS LAST STATED, WE WERE, WE HAD THE GREEN FLAG AND THEN WE GOT THE RED FLAG FROM MR. LITTLETON ON, UH, THE 20 20TH, I BELIEVE IT WAS. SO AFTER THAT HAPPENED, I DID GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MORTGAGE COMPANY, WHICH IN TUNE, UH, TURNED, UH, THEY HAVE ME SPEAKING WITH THE ATTORNEY, MR. BRACKET. AND, UH, FROM THAT POINT, UM, LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE. SPOKE WITH THEM AGAIN. AND ON THAT DAY, THE ATTORNEY, MR. RACK SAID, UM, THAT HE WOULD GET BACK WITH ME BY TODAY ON THE SECOND. AND I SAID, MOST LIKELY AT THE MEETING I DID SEND IN ANOTHER REPORT, EMAILED THAT THIS AFTERNOON MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN. UM, BUT I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING BEING ON THIS JOURNEY WITH ME. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WAITING ON, UH, THE DECISION PRETTY MUCH OF WHAT THE MORTGAGE COMPANY WILL DO. AND, UH, MY, UH, CONTRACTOR, HE WAS ONLY HAD CAR PROBLEM, BUT CATCHING AN UBER TO GET HERE AND JUST RUNNING A FEW MINUTES LATE IF Y'ALL HAD QUESTIONS FOR HIM. SO THAT'S WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR CONTRACTOR'S NAME? MR. ROGERS. OKAY. ROGER DEMAS. DEMAS. MM-HMM . OKAY. GOTCHA. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, TO MY LEFT? NO. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT US TO KNOW? WELL, ONLY FOR THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SPEECHLESS. 'CAUSE WHEN I HEARD THAT THERE WAS OTHER ISSUES BESIDES THE ISSUE THAT WAS AT HAND, BECAUSE I JUST KNEW THAT WE WERE, THE GREEN LIGHT WAS GO AND, UH, IT WASN'T AT THAT POINT. SO, UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE OF WHAT HAS, WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. RIGHT. UM, THE ATTORNEY IS HERE, SO, OKAY. MM-HMM . WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UH, MR. BRACKET, YOU WOULD, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING. UH, THOMAS BRACKET. I'M THE ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF THE LENDER, UH, MID FIRST BANK? YES, SIR. AND I JUST SPOKE TO MS. MALONE ABOUT THIS TODAY, BUT, UM, MY CLIENT HAS, HAS OFFERED TO MAKE PAY FOR THE REPAIRS AND BEGIN MAKING THE REPAIRS TO THE PROPERTY, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR MS. MALONE, GIVING THEM A RELEASE OF LIABILITY SO THAT THERE'S NO INCURSION THEY HAVE FOR DOING IT AND IS OFFERING HER SOME FAVORABLE TERMS TO DO THAT. I GUESS THAT'S STILL, DEPENDING ON WHETHER SHE WANTS TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT, UM, BUT IF SHE'LL DO THOSE, THEN MY CLIENT WILL BEGIN GETTING THE WORK DONE AND SEEKING OUT THE PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO TRY TO GET THIS PROBLEM ADDRESSED FINALLY. AND YOU'LL USE YOUR OLD CONTRACTOR, NOT HER CONTRACTOR, CORRECT? YES. THEY, THEY WOULD HIRE THEIR OWN THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH GETTING THE PERMITS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. UM, WHAT KIND OF TUB FRAME ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I WOULD THINK THEY OUGHT TO HAVE THE PERMITS IF, DEPENDING ON IF SHE GETS BACK TO THEM WHAT THEY WANT FROM HER, UH, 30 DAYS, I WOULD THINK THE PERMITS OUGHT TO BE PULLED AND, AND WORK DONE THEREAFTER. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY FULLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I'VE ASKED ALAN TO GIVE ME A DETAILED LIST SO I CAN SEND TO MY CLIENT SO THEY CAN SEND TO THEIR CONTRACTOR. RIGHT. TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ON THIS? WHAT DOES IT COST? WHAT DOES THE TIMEFRAME FOR DOING THIS? IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY FULLY ON THAT. GOT YOU. OKAY. UH, LET ME SEE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY [00:10:01] QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? NO. NO. DO YOU THINK I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, SO YOU THINK IN 30 DAYS FOR THE PERMITS IT MAYBE ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO GET THAT ROOF DONE, OR I THINK IF SHE BREAK THE WHOLE THING IN COMPLIANCE, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? IF SHE GET, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY WANT HER TO GET A RELEASE BACK TO THEM, WHICH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO HER BY THE END OF THE WEEK. OKAY. AND ASSUMING SHE AGREES AND APPROVES TO THAT, THEN THEY COULD GET, I THINK YEAH, THEY COULD PROBABLY GET 30 DAYS TO GET THE PERMITS PULLED AND THEN IN 30 DAYS, MAYBE AFTER THAT, DEPENDING ON GET, GET THE THING FINISHED. AND THAT'S SOME OF THAT TIMEFRAME? YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL, THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT? UM, NO. UM, I THINK WE'RE, IF IF WE, I GUESS THE ONE THING TO SAY IS IF WE DON'T GET THE RELEASE BACK FROM HER, THEY WON'T MOVE AHEAD WITH THE REPAIRS, PROBABLY AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE MOVING TO A, TO A FORECLOSURE STATUS. OKAY. SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA DELAY GETTING IT DONE UNTIL THEY EITHER, IF IT WAS TO GET TO THAT, I'M SORRY, THEY BUY THE PROPERTY, THE FORECLOSURE SALE OR SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT. SO IT'S, IT'S CONTINGENT ON US GETTING THE RELEASE TO HER AND THEN HER GETTING THAT BACK TO GETTING THE REPAIRS DONE. AND THE RELEASE, ALL THAT DOES IS JUST IF, IF YOUR CLIENT'S CONTRACTOR GOES OVER THEIR PROPERTY AND GETS HURT, THEN THERE'S NO LIABILITY. CORRECT? WELL, THEY GO OVER THERE AND SHE'S GOT SOME VALUABLES IN THERE AND THEY REMOVE 'EM AND THEY'RE DESTROYED. SHE DOESN'T TURN AROUND AND SUE THEM FOR LIABILITY ON IT, OR THEY DON'T DO THE REPAIRS UP TO WHAT HER STANDARD IS OR SOME SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I GOT YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WELL I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU GOT ANY, IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, UH, YOU WANTED TO ASK HER SOME MORE QUESTIONS OR CALL HER BACK UP? OKAY. ARE WE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THIS? SHE'S NOT SPEAKING. UM, BUT NOT SURE IF THE CONTRACTOR IS SPEAKING WHEN HE GETS HERE. HE'S NOT HERE. THE CONTRACTOR SAID HE'D BE HERE AT SIX 11. SIX SIX WHAT? SIX 11 RIGHT ABOUT NOW. RIGHT ABOUT, OKAY. HE'S HERE. HE'S PROBABLY JUST GOING TO THE RESTROOM REAL QUICK. I, WELL LISTEN TO THE CONTRACTOR FIRST BEFORE I ASK HER. SIR, IF YOU WOULD COME ON DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, PLEASE. ROGER DEMAS. 26 0 8 BRITTANY CIRCLE. AND YOU'RE MS. MALONE'S CONTRACTOR, CORRECT? YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND, UH, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT YOU DISCOVERED OR, UH, UH, I DID A WALK THROUGH WITH MR. LITTLETON OF, OF GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, UHHUH . AND, UM, AFTER TEARING BACK SOME OF THE SHINGLES, TEARING BACK, UM, SEVERAL OF THE, UH, DECKING, WE FOUND A LOT OF COMPROMISED, [00:15:01] UH, TRUSSES THAT, UH, HIS OPINION, UM, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, UH, REPLACE, REMOVE, AND REPLACE THOSE PARTICULAR, UH, TRUSSES THAT ARE COMPROMISED AND, UH, WE COULD NOT GO ANY FORWARD TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, ROOFING, UH, WORK FOR MRS. MALONE. SO I REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE ARCHITECTS, THEY'RE GONNA, UH, GAVE ME A, UH, AN ESTIMATE TO DO THE, UM, DRAWINGS FOR US, FOR US TO, INSTEAD OF DOING, UH, FACTORY TRUSSES, MAYBE REPLACING, YOU KNOW, DO ONSITE RAPTORS. AND SO, UH, GOT SOME PRICING ON THAT AS WELL. MATERIALS AND LABOR TO, BUT REALLY WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIX OR REPLACE UNTIL WE PULL ALL THE DECKING OFF. AND, UM, WE ALSO FOUND SOME, UH, COMPROMISED, UM, UH, HEDGERS FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY ON THE BACKSIDE THAT WERE, THAT WAS COVERED UP THAT WE COULD NOT SEE UNTIL WE STARTED PULLING STUFF OUT. THO THOSE HAZARDS, THEY'RE LIKE TWO BY SIXES, AIN'T THEY? OR TWO BY EIGHT? TWO BY TWO BY TENS OR TWO BY TWELVES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO ROTTED, HUH. AND, UH, COMPROMISED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME SUPPORTS IN THERE AND PULL 'EM OUT AND, YOU KNOW, REPLACE 'EM. OH, WOW. WELL, UH, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THE FUNDING THAT SHE'S GOT THAT YOU COULD DO IT? OR IS IT GOING TO GO BEYOND WHAT YOU COULD DO? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING. OKAY. YES, SIR. BUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL OP OPTIONS WITH MS. MALONE AND MAYBE WITH THE FINANCING COMPANY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, FINANCE THE ROOFING FROM MATERIAL. RIGHT. BUT, UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, JUST SPECULATION THAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING 20% ARE, ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE RAPTORS, BUT THE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD, UH, SOMETHING COMPROMISED WITH THEM. AND SO, UM, UNTIL WE GET A ARCHITECT OUT THERE TO, TO LOOK AT IT, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PROCEED. GOTCHA. LET'S SEE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? NO. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YES, SIR. NOT A PROBLEM. MS. MALONE, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME BACK UP. OKAY. YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS JUST, UH, NOW THAT KIND OF, WE KNOW, UH, THAT THERE'S EXTENSIVE DAMAGE AND YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE SOME EXTRA FUNDING, UH, TO GET IT FIXED. UH, DO YOU PLAN ON SIGNING SOME KIND OF RELEASE WITH THE MORTGAGE COMPANY SO THEY CAN DO THE WORK OR, YES. ARE YOU GONNA STAY WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR? WHAT'S YOUR KIND OF PLAN AT THAT POINT? WELL, HOPEFULLY AND JUST DEPEND ON IF, UM, MID, IF THEY WOULD, IF THEY DO WORK WITH THE CONTRACT ALREADY HAVE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, UH, WE'LL TRY TO SEE ABOUT THAT. IF NOT, WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH WHAT THE MORTGAGE COMPANY IS WILLING TO DO. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S KIND OF BETWEEN YOU AND THEM, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, HE WAS, HIS, HIS CLIENT WOULD HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS, KIND OF WHAT HE SAID FROM THE PODIUM HERE. SO YES, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, BUT, UH, BUT MR. DEMAS HAS BEEN, I, GO AHEAD. EXCUSE. YEAH, GO AHEAD. MR. DEMAS HAS BEEN OVERLY KIND, UH, PROFESSIONAL AND A HELP TO SOMEONE LIKE ME THAT NEEDED HELP. RIGHT. UH, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF HE WAS HERE HE WOULD'VE HEARD, BUT MR. DEMOS IS FOR WHATEVER WOULD HELP ME. RIGHT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO. OKAY. HE'S A GOOD GUY. AND I'LL ASK THE BOARD IF THEY HAVE ANY, LIKE, ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU GO BACK, SIT DOWN. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . SO AT THIS TIME, UH, THE BOARD, WHAT WE'VE HEARD, UH, ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM, UH, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. SO IF, IF WE COME, IF WE COME BACK ON THE SIXTH, COULD WE EXPECT [00:20:01] TO HAVE A DECISION MADE BY MS. MALONE AS TO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND, AND THEN BE ABLE TO, I GUESS, HAVE CONVEYED TO HER WHETHER WHAT THE CONTRACTORS WHATNOT, BUT COME BACK ON THE SIXTH AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD SIXTH OF WHAT, APRIL OF THAT MONDAY OUR NEXT MEETING? OR DOES THAT FALL WITHIN 30 DAYS? OR DOES IT NEED TO GO TO THE FOURTH? MAY 4TH? UM, YOU HAVE DISCRETION TO PUT IT AT WHATEVER YOU WANT. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THE SHORTER TIMEFRAME JUST TO MAKE SURE THE DOCUMENTS GET EXECUTED AND IT'S NOT PROLONGED LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO, THEN YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SET IT FOR THAT APRIL. IF YOU WANTED TO EXTEND IT OUT FURTHER BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THE, UM, THEY TOLD YOU THEY'RE GONNA NEED PROBABLY AT LEAST 60 DAYS, THEN YOU COULD DO THAT. IT, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE UP TO YOU AS TO HOW MUCH PRESSURE YOU WANT TO PUT ON HER TO HAVE CERTAIN DEADLINES MET, TO BE ABLE TO GET AN EXTENSION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES. IT DOES. YOU LOOKING AT APRIL 6TH OR APRIL 4TH OR, WELL, I MEAN, 60 DAYS WILL PUT US AT THE MAY 4TH MEETING. MONDAY, MAY 4TH. UM, WHAT WOULD BE Y'ALL'S EXPECTATION IF WE CAME BACK ON THE FOURTH OF THINGS THAT HAVE COMPLETED? WELL, IT SHOULD HAVE THE PERMIT PERMITS APPROVED BY THEN. PAPERWORK. BY THE END OF THOSE 60 DAYS, THEY SHOULD HAVE DECIDED ON WHO'S GONNA DO THE WORK. MM-HMM . RIGHT. SO JUST, THEY WILL ACTUALLY NEED TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO DO THE WORK BEFORE THE PERMITS ARE PULLED BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE WORK HAS TO PULL THE PERMITS. YEAH. IF WE COME BACK ON, IF WE COME BACK ON APRIL FROM APRIL 6TH, THEN WE, I THINK AT THAT POINT WE'LL AT LEAST KNOW IF SHE SIGNED THE RELEASE OR DIDN'T SIGN THE RELEASE. AND, AND WHO'S GONNA BE FULL PERMITS? GO AHEAD. CAN WE CALL MR. BRACKET BACK UP? IS IT MR. BRACKET? YES. CAN YOU COME BACK UP? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO THIS RELEASE THAT WE ARE NEEDING MS. MALONE TO SIGN JUST RELEASES YOU OF ANY RELEASES ANY DAMAGE TO A CONTRACTOR. DOES, IS THIS PUTTING A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY? NO, THERE'S, WELL, THERE'S ALREADY A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. SO NO, THIS, OKAY. THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL LEASE. IT'S JUST A RELEASE FOR LIABILITY THAT THEY, CAUSE SHE COULD BILL, THAT SHE COULD BRING AGAINST THEM. GOTCHA. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT, BUT SIGNING THIS RELEASE THEN GIVES YOUR CLIENT THE GREEN LIGHT BASICALLY TO BE WILLING TO BE ABLE TO STEP IN AND HELP HER. YES. THEN THEY'RE, THEY WOULD GET THAT, THEN THEY WOULD SEND THEIR CONTRACTOR OUT TO GO DO AN INSPECTION. AGAIN, I NEED THE LIST FROM HIM SO I CAN GET THAT TO 'EM. UM, THEN THEY COULD START PULLING PERMITS AND SUCH IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO. OKAY. BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT IF SHE'LL DO THAT, THEN THEY WILL DO THIS. SO AND SO THEY ARE SAYING THEY WILL COMPLETE ALL THE WORK THAT IS NEEDED? YES. AND WHERE AND HOW ARE THEY COMPENSATED? IS THE EXPECTATION THAT MS. MALONE PAYS FOR YOU? IT IT GETS ADDED. IT GETS ADDED ONTO HER LOAN. ADDED ONTO THE LOAN TO THE HOUSE? YES. AND SO IN A CASE LIKE THAT, THIS IS A CURIOSITY QUESTION. IF IT GETS ADDED ONTO THE LOAN TO THE HOUSE, ARE WE DOING SOME TYPE OF REFINANCE TO ADD THAT MONEY IN THERE, WHICH MEANS SHE'S NOW SUSCEPTIBLE TO TODAY'S INTEREST RATES? A ACTUALLY, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS I THINK I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND I CAN'T. OKAY. BUT ACTUALLY THEY'RE OFFERING HER A ZERO INTEREST LOAN ON THAT. OKAY. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING IS WE WILL ADD THE AMOUNT ON THE LOAN THAT DOESN'T CHANGE HER PAYMENTS THAT SHE'S GONNA MAKE MM-HMM . BUT WHEN SHE SELLS THE HOUSE OR THE LOAN MATURES, THEN SHE HAS TO PAY BACK THE LENDER, WHICH IS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD. GOOD DEAL IF YOU CAN TAKE IT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND BECAUSE THESE ARE CONTRACTORS THAT THE LENDER, UH, HAVE [00:25:01] A RELATIONSHIP WITH MM-HMM . IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, IF YOU'RE AWARE OF, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT MR. DAMS CAN BECOME A PREFERRED CONTRACTOR? SHE, SHE'S ASKED ME THAT AND I'VE, I'VE TOLD HER I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW. I'D HAVE TO ASK THEM. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO I'M JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF EXPEDIENCY MM-HMM . IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. WELL, AND, AND SHE DID TELL ME TOO THAT, THAT I KNOW THEY PURCHASED SOME MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT MM-HMM . AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY IF MY CLIENT'S CONTRACTOR DOES THE WORK, I'D WANT TO TELL THEM, HEY, CAN YOU GO GET THESE MATERIALS AND USE IT SO THEY'RE NOT ADDING ON OR BUYING THINGS THEY DON'T NEED TO BUY MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO, BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY PURCHASED THE MATERIALS, IS THERE ANY, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I'M GONNA ASK ANYWAY MM-HMM . IS HE GOING TO BE COMPENSATED FOR ANY WORK THAT HE HAS DONE UP UNTIL THIS POINT? THAT I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD COME FROM MY CLIENT. I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETWEEN HIM AND MS. MALONE. MS. MALONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MS. MALONE BACK UP. GOTCHA. OTHER THAN YOUR COMPLETE LOYALTY AND RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR MR. DEMAS, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED THE RELEASE? WELL, WE JUST SPOKE WITH, I JUST SPOKE WITH ATTORNEY BRACKET TODAY, TODAY IN THE BUILDING. I PROVIDED IT YES. HAS NOT PROVIDED IT. MM-HMM. ARE YOU GOING TO SIGN IT? YES. OKAY. AND, AND HERE'S, HERE'S MY CHALLENGE. AND YOU'RE NEW TO THIS MR. BRACKET. SO THIS IS NOT AIMED AT YOU AT ALL. IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONVERSATIONS SEEM TO TAKE PLACE THE DAY OF THE MEETINGS. MM-HMM . AFTER WE GIVE 30 DAYS, AFTER WE GIVE 60 DAYS, THE UPDATES COME 24 TO 48 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SAYING THAT MAN WORKS TO THE TIME THAT'S ALLOTTED. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE TIME THAT WE ALLOT YOU, YOU TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT UNTIL WE HAVE TO COME HERE IN THE NINTH HOUR. I'M A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE ALL GONE TO BAT FOR YOU MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH. THE LAST THREE MEETINGS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE COME HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE'RE STILL NOT SEEING THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU THE TIME TO PROVIDE. HAD YOU SAID, I TALKED TO MR. BRACKET 25 DAYS AGO, OR 23 DAYS AGO, OR 15 DAYS AGO. IT WASN'T YEP. SORRY TO SAY. YEP. IT WAS ACTUALLY THE DAY THAT MR. DEMOS AND MR. LITTLE WAS DOING THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S WHAT CAME UP. AND AS I SHARED, I HAD SENT A, A, A REPORT, THE, THE LATEST REPORT TO SAY THAT HE SAID THAT HE WOULD SPEAK TO ME BY MARCH THE SECOND, WHICH IS TODAY, TO LET ME KNOW WHAT THE MORTGAGE COMPANY WOULD DO. SO I, I GUESS IN HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 2020. MM-HMM . IT IS. BUT THE DAY YOU, THE LAST DAY YOU WERE HERE ON THE SECOND, YOU HAD JUST FOUND OUT THAT YOU HAD GOTTEN A LOAN AND NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT THE JOB WASN'T SCHEDULED TILL 18 DAYS LATER. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, THE REASON WHY OF THE SCHEDULING IS BECAUSE MR. THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THEMSELVES HAVE OTHER JOBS BESIDES MINE. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO TAKEN INTO THAT. OKAY. THAT WAS PART OF IT. MM-HMM . UM MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I JUST GO STEP BY STEP. SO WHEN THEY WERE SCHEDULED ME TO DO THE WORK MM-HMM . THAT'S WHEN THE DAY THAT THEY STARTED ON THE JOB. OKAY. OKAY. MM-HMM . AND SO THE JOB WAS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 20TH. MM-HMM . WHEN DID WE FIND OUT THAT THE, THE TRUSSES, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE ROOF, LET ME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY, WAS SEVERELY COMPROMISED ON THAT DAY, ON THE 20TH MM-HMM . AND SO PHONE CALLS TO MR. BRACKET DID NOT GO OUT UNTIL TODAY? NO. ON THE, THAT MONDAY. 'CAUSE THAT WAS LIKE FRIDAY. SO ON MONDAY, [00:30:01] UH, I CALLED THE MORTGAGE COMPANY, TALKED, SPOKE WITH MR. UH, ATTORNEY BRACKET MM-HMM . AND MATTER OF FACT, I CALLED THE MORTGAGE COMPANY AGAIN TO SEE MORE, BUT THEN THEY TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT I WOULD BE SPEAKING WITH. AND SINCE I SPOKE WITH HIM ON THAT, THE 23RD MM-HMM . HE SAID, I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON MARCH THE SECOND. OKAY. AND I WAS, AND I DID PUT THAT MOST LIKELY, WHICH MM-HMM . IF HE DIDN'T CALL ME OR EMAIL ME BEFORE I WOULD SEE HIM HERE TODAY AS I DID. OKAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. AND SO ONCE THE RELEASE IS SIGNED, I MAY, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS AND I PROBABLY WENT OVER MY HEAD. ONCE THE RELEASE IS SIGNED, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN THE CONTRACTORS CAN START? DID, DID WE SAY THAT? DID I MISS THAT? HE SAID IT WOULD TAKE HIM ABOUT 30 DAYS TO PULL THE PERMIT SO THAT AFTER THAT THEY WOULD BEGIN THE WORK. OKAY. PERMITS HAVE NOT ALREADY BEEN PULLED. SO A PERMIT WAS PULLED FOR THE ROOF REPAIR. HOWEVER, ONCE THEY DETERMINED THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE, IT WAS RED TAGGED BECAUSE THE PERMIT THAT WAS PULLED WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE EXTENT OF THE D REPAIRS NEEDED. GOT YOU. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN I MIGHT INTERJECT THAT PART OF THE ALLUDED. OKAY. AND, AND AGAIN, IN THAT, IN THE LETTER FOR TODAY, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHO, UH, MR. LITTLETON IS MM-HMM . BUT HE HAD SPOKEN, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING WITH, UH, MR. ROGERS DEMAS AND TOLD HIM THAT HE WOULD SUBMIT THAT MM-HMM . TWO WEEKS FROM THAT DATE. OKAY. SO, OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. I HAVE A QUESTION. MM-HMM . IS THERE, SO OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE MONDAY, MAY 4TH. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY, UM, BY THAT, BY THAT NEXT MEETING, UM, IS THERE A CHANCE THAT YOU COULD HAVE REVIEWED THAT PROPOSAL THAT YOUR MORTGAGE COMPANY SENDS YOU SIGN IT, UM, AND THEN THEM HAVE THE GREEN? I THINK ONCE THINGS ARE IN THE MORTGAGE COMPANY'S HANDS, IT'S, I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO, BUT I THINK IT'S AT THAT POINT, THE BALL WILL START ROLLING A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. YES. DO YOU FEEL LIKE IF WE COME BACK ON, ON MONDAY, APRIL 6TH, THAT THAT, UM, RELEASE WILL BEEN RESIGNED AND YOUR MORTGAGE COMPANY WILL BE READY IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY PULLED PERMITS BY THAT TIME? I WOULD SAY I'M, I'M READY. OKAY. YES. ON MY PART, MY END. OKAY. SO YOU, SO YOUR REVIEW, REVIEW TIME OF WHAT HE'S SENDING YOU, UM, SHOULDN'T LAST INTO THE WEEKS? RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT ARE Y'ALL THINKING? JUST TO GET A NUMBER? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING APRIL? JUST TO HAVE THE UPDATE. OKAY. THINK SO WE'RE THINKING APRIL TO GET AN UPDATE. MM-HMM . HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A PERMIT? IT, IT DEPENDS BECAUSE WITH THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE, IT COULD REQUIRE AN ENGINEER'S REPORT, WHICH WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. SO YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT AS MUCH AS 30 DAYS. IT TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT TWO WEEKS, BUT IT COULD TAKE LONGER GIVEN THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE. MM-HMM . OKAY. OKAY. BUT IF, UH, IF IT'S RED TAG, DOES THAT MADE IT THE REQUIRED ENGINEER? UH, RED TAG JUST MEANS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK ON IT UNTIL THEY GET THE APPROPRIATE PERMISSIONS. OKAY. SO THE APRIL 6TH MEETING SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE ON THE CUSP. WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT A ENGINEER? WELL, AND TO MR. DEMO AND CREDIT, THEY DID CALL AND SAY, WHO DO I ASK TO MAKE SURE WE YOU RUNDOWN OF WHAT TAKE TO DO IT RIGHT. AND WAY DONE. AND I UNDERSTAND GONNA REQUIRE ENGINEERING, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF REPAIR. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE YEAH. 'CAUSE HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A GET THOSE REPORTS, AN ARCHITECT OR SO CERTIFIED SO THAT THAT WILL DELAY OR NOT DELAY, THAT'LL TAKE LONGER FOR THE PERMIT [00:35:02] ON. SO I DON'T KNOW IF APRIL 6TH IS GONNA BE ENOUGH TIME. SO I, I HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR MR. BRACKET. WOULD AN ENGINEER'S REPORT, WOULD THE FEE FOR THAT BE COVERED? UH, WOULD WHAT YOU GUYS WILL DO FOR HER? 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT FREE. AN ENGINEER IS NOT FREE. AND THEY'LL, IF, IF THEY'LL GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND THEY'RE GONNA DO IT, THEN THEY'LL MAKE AN ELECTION ON WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA DO IT OR NOT. I MEAN, THAT, THAT IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO MAKE. SO IF THERE'S ALL, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GETTING INTO SAYING THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE ROOF AND THIS IS ALL THERE, IT MAY BE BIGGER THAN THEY THINK IT IS. I, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY BECAUSE OKAY. I DON'T KNOW FULLY WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE WHOLE DEAL AND MM-HMM . WHAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION ON. BUT LET'S SAY THEY DID, THEN YES, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED TO WHATEVER GETS ROLLED INTO HER LOAN. ULTIMATELY. I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. THAT IS MY QUESTION. MM-HMM . OKAY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO THIS IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD TAKE THIS ON. I CAN'T SAY IT'S A FULL GUARANTEE OF IT UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT THIS IS WHAT WE GOTTA DO, THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS ULTIMATELY OF IT. MM-HMM . FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PAYOFF OF HER LOAN IS MM-HMM . AND THAT THE WAY THESE MORTGAGE COMPANIES DO IT, THEY ALL WORE ALL THOSE THINGS. AND I'M SURE Y'ALL SEEN IT A MILLION TIMES TOO. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, BUT WHAT THEY HAD TOLD ME TODAY WAS, WELL, IF SHE WILL DO THIS, AND WE GET THE LIST OF REPAIRS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIVABLE CONDITION IS, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE HEARD, WE'LL LOOK AT IT, WE'LL SEND IT TO OUR CONTRACTOR. I'M ASSUMING THEY WILL GIVE THEM A BID ON IT AND THEN THEY WILL MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION ON IT. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S TO BE FULLY HONEST WITH ME. I UNDERSTAND. I DO. I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY. THANK YOU. SO, SO WOULD APRIL 6TH GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO PULL THE PERMITS AND FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR CONTRACTOR GO OUT AND LOOK AND SEE AND THEN GET BACK WITH YOU? WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S WORRYING ME NOW WITH HIM SAYING ON THIS, THIS, WHAT IS IT A BUILDING INSPECTOR REPORT OF THE ROOFS OR WHATEVER THAT, THAT, FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WOULD NEED TO BE DONE AND INVESTIGATED. THAT MAY BE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS. I, I DON'T KNOW. UM, I MEAN, I, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET THE RELEASE OR TIMELINE WISE OUT TO HER AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, AND I'M ASSUMING SHE WOULD SIGN THAT, GET IT BACK TO 'EM. I'M ASSUMING SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THEY WOULD GO AGAINST THEIR INSPECTOR TO GO OUT AND MAKE A REVIEW OF WHAT'S NEEDED, WHAT'S THERE. I'M ASSUMING THEIR CONTRACTOR KNOWS THE PERMIT PROCESS OR WHATEVER'S THERE, BUT IF HE'S SAYING HE NEEDS A, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVE AN ARCHITECT AND ALL THIS STUFF NOW THAT, THAT MAY COMPLICATE IT. OKAY. AND YOU GUYS WOULD NOT PULL PERMITS UNTIL YOU GO OUT AND REVIEW THE SCOPE OF WORK. FIRST THEY NEED TO GET THE LIST OF WHAT HAS GOTTA BE DONE SO THEY CAN MAKE A BID. AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD WANT TO GO OUT AND COORDINATE THAT WITH THIS MALONE. 'CAUSE STILL HER PROPERTY TO GO OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THEY GO, YEAH, THIS IS BIGGER THAN WE THOUGHT, OR NO, IT'S, WE THINK WE CAN HANDLE THIS AND MM-HMM . THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. OKAY. SO I, I THINK THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE TO PERHAPS COME UP WITH A TIERED, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF MR. BRACKET'S TEAM OR THE TEAM THAT YOU KNOW, HE'S REPRESENTING IF THEY'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE JOB FIRST. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT IT, IT CHANGES EVERYTHING. YEAH. WE'RE JUST BACK WHERE WE'RE AT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, I THINK THOUGH HE SAID THAT IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT IT, THEY'RE GONNA FORECLOSE. YEAH. THEN, THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NON-MONETARY DEFAULT OF THE LOAN. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR ALL WITH FORECLOSURES OR HOW THEY WORK, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. MM-HMM . SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONE TOMORROW MM-HMM . UM, IF FOR SOME REASON SHE DIDN'T DO IT, I DOUBT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT READY FOR AN APRIL SALE. MAY WOULD BE MORE REALISTIC ON THAT POINT, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT IT MAY NOT EVEN GET THAT POINT. IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THINGS AND GIVE OUR OPPORTUNITY. THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BUT, WELL, IT, IF IT WENT [00:40:01] THAT WAY THAT ANY SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY. RIGHT. THEY, THEY'D HAVE TO COME IN AND THEY'D STILL HAVE TO FIX THE HOUSE. YOUR LIEN WOULD SURVIVE IF Y'ALL HAD TO LEAN ON IT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE SUPERIOR AT THAT POINT. WELL, I'M SAYING WE'LL BE AT THE SAME POSITION WHERE IT DOES. RIGHT. SO IF YOU GUYS DECLINE TO DO THE JOB MM-HMM . YOU MOVE TO FORECLOSURE. MM-HMM . YOU DON'T GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK. WELL, THEY CAN GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE WORK. BUT THEIR POINT AT THAT IS THEY MAY BE LOOKING, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH HER BEFORE TOO, SELL THE PROPERTY, PAY OFF THE LIEN, GET SOMEBODY ELSE WHO CAN AFFORD TO COME IN. I'M SORRY, KEEP IT IN THIS. NOPE, YOU ARE FINE. UM, WHO CAN FIX THIS THING? AND THAT'S, THAT'S GET RID OF US. WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. WE'RE PAID OFF. SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAN PAY FOR FIX IT IF THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. BUT, UM, BUT THAT FORECLOSURES DON'T WORK LIKE THAT. OFTENTIMES IT'LL STRIKE BACK TO THE BANK. AND THEN THE BANK, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S THEIR PROBLEM. THEY OWN IT. RIGHT? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK MR. DEMOS HAD A QUESTION THOUGH. HE HAVE A QUESTION OF WHO? NO, HE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ATTORNEY. MR. DEMAS, YOU HAD A STATEMENT OR QUESTION? YES. UM, I, I APPRECIATE MRS. MALONE'S LOYALTY TO LOYALTY TO ME GETTING HER HOUSE IS FIXED IS FOREMOST MY MOST IMPORTANT THING. I'LL STEP ASIDE, BUT, UM, FROM MR. LITTLETON, AN ENGINEER REPORT, JUST BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR CAN GO OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, FROM THE MORTGAGE COMPANY SAID THAT THEY CAN FIX IT, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ACCEPTED BY MR. LITTLETON OR THE, UH, BUILDING, UH, DEPARTMENT FOR GRAND PRAIRIE. SO ENGINEER REPORT IS MANDATORY FOR THE PROCEED. MM-HMM . UM, SOMETHING ELSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS MS. MALONE HAD BEEN PAYING PROPERTY TAX ON A HOUSE. THAT IS, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY WAY WE CAN COMPENSATE THAT IN ANY WAY BECAUSE OF THE DILAPIDATION OF THE HOUSE OR THE VALUE NOT. OKAY. JUST A QUESTION THAT'S NOT, NOT OUR JURISDICTION. THAT'S, I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT TO HER WHEN SHE COULD, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UM, FIGHT THAT, THAT COST. MM-HMM . AGAIN, THAT'S ON ME. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT. AND I FEEL BAD, I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY. BUT, UH, BUT AGAIN, UM, I JUST HOPE SHE HAS THE OP OPTION TO PICK AND, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS RATHER THAN JUST THE FORECLOSURE. MM-HMM . IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER OPTION. MM-HMM . SO MM-HMM . IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, I'LL STEP IN AND HELP. I'LL FIND A BUYER AND BUY A FOR. SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THROUGH THAT BANK. THAT'S MY COMMITMENT TO HER. IT WON'T HAPPEN. SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY DON'T WILLING TO FIX IT, IF IT COSTS TOO MUCH OR IF THEY FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY, I'LL, I'LL FIND THE BUYER WITHIN, WITHIN, WITHIN 10 DAYS, 14 DAYS. I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE THAT COMMITMENT HERE. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT, UH, ALL THIS MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT TO GET THAT HOUSE FIXED FOR MS. MALONE TO MOVE BACK IN. RIGHT. AND IF, UM, THEY WANT TO, UM, HOLD THAT HOSTAGE AND, YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO THE FOREFRONT, IF THEY CAN'T, IF THEIR CONTRACTOR'S NOT WILLING TO DO IT, LET'S JUST SAY HE'S WILLING, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT GONNA PUT THAT EFFORT, THAT LITTLE EXTRA EFFORT AND, UH, UH, SHAME ON THAT BEING THE, THE SITUATION. BUT THAT MORE LIKELY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO THE BANK ABOUT THE, THE FINANCING AND THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE OR NOT MAKE. SO, SO IF WE CAN JUST PLEASE PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IF SHE HAS THE OPTION OR HAS TO SELL, GIVE HER SOME TIME TO FIND A BUYER THAT'S WILLING TO BUY IT AND FIX IT. NOT TO LET THE BANK JUST GO DOWN TO THE COURTHOUSE AND SELL IT TO THE PERSON THAT PUT THEIR HANDS UP AS MANY TIMES. NO QUESTION. GO AHEAD. UM, I'M NOT ASKING THE, THE WHAT SHE GOT ON THAT LOAN, BUT WHAT SHE GOT ON THE LEARN LOAN VERSUS WHERE YOU GUYS THOUGHT THE COST WOULD BE NOW VERSUS WHERE THE COST TRAJECTORY MAY BE. WHAT'S THAT DIFFERENCE? THAT COST DIFFERENCE? UH, I REALLY, I WOULD BE LYING TO YOU IF I GAVE YOU THAT AMOUNT. OKAY. WE, WE DON'T, WE NEED AN ENGINEER TO GO OUT THERE AND ASSESS THE RAPTORS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT OF TRUSSES. I APOLOGIZE, , WE, WE CAN GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES OF EACH TRUSS ON [00:45:01] BOTH SIDES AND SEND IT TO AN ENGINEER AND THEY CAN TELL US HOW WE CAN FIX THAT TRUSS. BUT IT'S VERY DETAILED. OKAY. OR AS I'VE TALKED TO MR. LITTLETON, LEAVE TRUSSES IN PLACE, GET US, GET US A ARCHITECT TO GIVE US DRAWINGS AND WE'LL JUST GO BUILD RAPTORS ON SITE AND JUST LEAVE THOSE TRUSSES THERE. OKAY. NOT GONNA HARM ANYTHING. LITTLE EXTRA SUPPORT. SO HE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. SO THAT WOULD MY OPINION, THAT'S THE LEAST COST EFFECTIVE OR OPTION FOR MS. MALONE TO GET THAT HOUSE FIXED. OKAY. IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BUILD THE RAPTORS, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BEST OPTION, THE LOWEST COST TO FIX IT, TO GET THE ROOF PUT ON. OKAY. BUT THAT'S ALSO, DEPENDING ON MR. LITTLETON, HOW HE CLASSIFIES THE, THE RESTORATION OF THE HOUSE. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO GRANDFATHER AND USE HALF INCH DECKING, OR WE HAVE, WE'VE TO GO TO THE NEWER CODES AND THROUGH, YOU KNOW, FIVE EIGHTHS AND THAT'S ALL MR. LITTLETON EXPRESSED TO ME. SO THERE'S A FEW OTHER, UH, UNKNOWN FIGURES IN THAT AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . IT'S BEYOND THE ROOF. YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT. RIGHT? MR. MR. DEMOS? IT'S BEYOND THE ROOF. IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE ROOF. YES MA'AM. IT'S CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT, IT, THE TRU IS THERE TO SUPPORT THAT ROOF IS NOT SUFFICIENT. RIGHT? RIGHT. UH, ONCE PING IT BACK AND, AND EXPOSING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, MR. LITTLETON ALREADY TOOK THEM RIGHT. TO THOSE CONCERNED AREAS. MM-HMM . SO WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE. OKAY. ARE YOU USING TRUSSES AND RAPTORS AS THE SAME? THIG TRUSSES ARE TYPICALLY MADE BY SOMEONE BROUGHT IN, RIGHT? PRE-B, MY OPINION, A RAPTORS BUILT BY A CONTRACTOR. GOTCHA. A FRAMING GUY. YEAH. BUT IT COULD BE DESCRIBED OR DEFINED DIFFERENT FOR YOU AS SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. THAT'S A TRU IS, UH, MANUFACTURED BY A COMPANY HE USED TO HELP MY GRANDFATHER BUILD A OLD, SAY WE'D HAVE TO CUT 'EM AROUND THE EDGE. YOU KNOW WHERE IT COMES OUT OF THE ROOF. YES, SIR. UH, THE OVER HA AND THEN AT AT THE TOP WE'D PUT THAT TWO BY FOUR ON THE TOP. DOWN IT DOWN. YES SIR. YEAH. OKAY. THE RIDGE BEAM AND RIGHT. OKAY. GOT YOU. I UNDERSTAND DALE. BUT I COULD GO OUT AND BUILD THAT AND DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT GRAND PRAIRIE'S EXPECTING. THEY WANT ME TO HAVE DRAWINGS TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO BUILD AND PUT IT BACK IN PLACE AND PROTECT MS. MALONE OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE IN THAT HOME. RIGHT. SO MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT WAS GOOD OLD DAYS. YOU JUST BUILT IT GOING. MM-HMM . BACK, BACK IN THE SEVENTIES HERE, GR HOUSE IS STILL STANDING I BET. HERE AT GRAY PRAIRIE. OH YES. WE DID A LOT OF THEM. SO, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR DISCUSSION? THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. GO AHEAD. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY. MS. MALONE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON IF YOU SIGN THAT RELEASE? DO WE NEED TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS IT? PRETTY MUCH THAT, EXCUSE ME. UM, THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I, I'M RELEASING THEM FROM ANY DAMAGE MM-HMM . OR ANYTHING THAT COULD HAPPEN MM-HMM . UM, AND IF THEY DEEM THAT THIS IS TOO BIG OF A PROJECT FOR THEM MM-HMM . IT MOVES TO FORECLOSURE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE OF IT? YES. I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT MORE SO NOW. UM, BUT WHEN I CAME IN HERE TODAY, I WAS AT, UM, A PLACE OF IT. IT'S KIND OF NOT, IT'S IN MY HAND, BUT IT'S NOT IN MY HAND. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE MORTGAGE COMPANY, IT'S GOING TO DO THIS MM-HMM . THAT'S LIKE, OKAY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE BACK MM-HMM . TRACK AND TRY TO GET SOME TYPE OF ALONE AGAIN MM-HMM . UH, TO REPAIR AND THEN NOT SAYING EVEN HOW MUCH MORE [00:50:01] IT WOULD BE MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MR. DEMAS UNDERSTAND AND EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE, OUR ROLE AS RESIDENTS OF GRAND PRAIRIE IS TO SUPPORT OTHER RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS LIKE YOU TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. MM-HMM . THE GOAL IS FOR NO ONE TO EVER COME BEFORE US AND AS A RESULT OF HAVING COME BEFORE US LOSE THEIR HOME. MM-HMM . SO AS SOMEONE WHO OWNS THEIR OWN REAL ESTATE COMPANY, I UNDERSTAND MM-HMM . UM, THE STRUGGLE AND THE CHALLENGES THAT COMES WITH GETTING PEOPLE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING MM-HMM . AND ENSURING THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING MM-HMM . AND ALSO ENSURING THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE UPKEEP OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MM-HMM . AND SO AGAIN, THE GOAL IS NEVER TO HAVE ANYONE COME BEFORE US AND WALK AWAY AS A RESULT OF OUR DECISION CAUSING YOU TO LOSE YOUR HOME. THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERST UNDERSTAND THAT IF SIGN THAT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY FORECLOSE ON IT, THAT IS NOT A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS BOARD'S DECISION. MM-HMM . UH, NO. OKAY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK AT THIS TIME SINCE, UH, YOU SAID WE CAN'T COME TO A, WELL I JUST NOW I WANTED TO GET HER YEAH, SHE UNDERSTANDS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE'S CLEAR. SO CAN WE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION NOW? ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN. OKAY. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS POINT. ARE WE THINKING, UH, MAY 4TH, WHAT ARE WE THINKING ON MAY 4TH? WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN ON MAY 4TH? BY MAY 4TH? UM, I THINK WE DEFINITELY WANT THE RELEASE SIGNED. I THINK WE WANT, IF SHE'S GOING TO SIGN THE RELEASE, I THINK THAT RELEASE SHOULD BE SIGNED PRIOR TO MAY 4TH. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD REQUIRE. RIGHT. THAT'S BEYOND, BEYOND OUR SCOPE, ISN'T IT? YOU CANNOT REQUIRE HER TO SIGN THE RELEASE. YOU CAN REQUIRE HER AND OR THOSE INVOLVED TO A APPEAR WITH A DECISION AND A DETAILED PLAN AND TIMELINE FOR THE REPAIRS. RIGHT. AND SO GIVEN THAT WE CAN REQUIRE, UH, A TIMELINE OF THE DETAILED REPAIRS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD HANG THAT OUT UNTIL MAY 4TH. I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A DETAILED PLANNED, UH, PLAN WITHIN 30 DAYS WITHIN OUR NEXT MEETING. I THINK SO TOO, BUT ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA CONSIDER THE ENGINEER'S REPORT? I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE CONTINGENT. IF, IF WE CAN'T GET THAT BY THE SIXTH, THAT ALSO MAY NOT WORK FOR THE LENDER TO KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA OPEN IT OR NOT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S MY, I MEAN, I, I, YEP. I'M DEFINITELY, I'M WITH YOU FOR APRIL, BUT I THINK MAY, MAY. I'M WITH YOU. FAIR? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. OKAY. I'M TRACKING WITH YOU. ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? SO I WOULD ACTUALLY ASK Y'ALL TO ASK YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS AS TO WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT HER TO APPEAR WITH A DECISION AND ANTICIPATED SCOPE OF WORK AT APRIL OR MAY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE YOUR, YOUR FACT, UM, PRESENTERS. MM-HMM . SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WHAT'S MY, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT? A IT APRIL OR MAY? OH, TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, RIGHT? MM-HMM . APRIL. APRIL, MM-HMM . I MEAN, ENGINEER REPORT OR NOT. THEY, THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA AT LEAST SEEK ONE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE IT, SO MM-HMM . IT WOULD, YEAH. APRIL, I MEAN, GENERALLY, UH, IT, THERE'S WORDING IN THAT, IN THAT ORDER AT, AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION. AND THAT'S WHERE I, I'VE USED MY DISCRETION A LOT OF TIMES WITH THESE ORDERS TO WORK WITH WHO WE'VE ORDERED TO GET IT DONE. AND SO WHEN YOU SAY 30 DAYS AND IT TAKES, WE JUST DON'T CALL THE [00:55:01] BULLDOZER ON, ON THE 30TH DAY. WE, WE HAVE TO DO AN, WE HAVE TO DO AN EVALUATION. WE HAVE TO BID, BID A PROJECT, AND WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE. SO THIS WHOLE TIME, I'M, I HAVE MORE AND I THINK LEEWAY TO, TO, I DON'T WANNA PRESSURE BUT TO COACH OR, UH, COAX PEOPLE TO COMPLY. SO IF WE CAN GET AT LEAST A DECISION IN 30 DAYS AND KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEN I CAN, I CAN DO MY UTMOST TO MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW THAT, THAT TIMELINE. AND I THINK 30 DAYS TO FI FIGURE OUT A TIMELINE IS JUST FINE. OKAY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE APRIL 6TH? YES, MA'AM. YES. AND SO BY APRIL 6TH, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN UPDATE ON THE SIGNED RELEASE, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ENGINEER'S REPORT, , AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE REPAIRS GOING FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING, AARON? I THINK SO. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I, I'M UNDER, UNDER THE IMPRESSION I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH THE ENGINEER REPORTING AND GETTING EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK IT, SO IF WE DO COME BACK ON APRIL 6TH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE DECISION, AN UPDATE ON A DETAILED PLAN, AND POSSIBLY AN UPDATE ON ENGINEER'S REPORT. AND IF WE, IF THEY'RE NOT ALL IN PLAY, THEY'RE LIKE, LIKE DONE AT LEAST TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE IN PLAY AND IT'S MOVING. BUT IF IT'S STILL SITTING THERE AND IT'S NOT GONE ANYWHERE, I THINK THAT BRINGS IT STORY TOO. OKAY. OKAY. SO WOULD THIS MOTION BE UPHOLDING THE CITY'S DECISION OR? WELL, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GIVE HER UNTIL APRIL, THEN YOU WOULD EXTEND THE ORDER UNTIL, UM, 11:59 PM AND WE AUTOMATICALLY DO IT TO THAT TIME ON APRIL THE SIXTH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING, CORRECT. KAREN? YES, MA'AM. AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE OF NON-COMPLIANCE. OKAY. AND THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT IS, ALTHOUGH CODE COMPLIANCE DOES HAVE IT WITHIN THEIR DISCRETION AS TO SOMEWHAT WHEN THEY TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, ONCE AN ORDER HAS EXPIRED LEGALLY, YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CHANGE IT. AND, UM, CODE CAN DO ANYTHING AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO THE LIEN HOLDER WILL AUTOMATICALLY FORECLOSE. IT IS TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. OKAY. MM-HMM . UM, SO IF YOU WANTED TO EXTEND IT TO APRIL THE SIXTH WITH, UM, THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY PROVIDE AN ANTICIPATED SCOPE OF WORK AND TIMELINE AND AN UPDATE ON THE DECISIONS AND RELEASES, UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. YOU WOULD ALSO NEED TO SPECIFY IF THERE'S ANYONE IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPEAR, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SPECIFY THAT AS WELL. OKAY. ALL THE PARTIES THAT ARE HERE TODAY. MM-HMM . THE ONLY OTHER, UH, QUESTION I MAY WANT TO ASK IS AFTER HEARING THE SCOPE, IF, IF IT'S A, A DETAILED PLAN, I KIND OF HEARD PRE, MAYBE I DID NOT, BUT MAKE TO BE CLEAR, UNLESS THE ARCHITECT, WHOEVER ELSE, MR. LITTLETON, WILL THAT GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE THE STEPS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE BY THEN? OR JUST THE PAPER SIGN AND MOVING FORWARD? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M HEARING. IT SEEMED LIKE IT'S TWO THINGS AT ONCE. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL. IT KIND OF IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING ON, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. IS THAT, UH, TO GIVE YOU TILL APRIL 6TH TO GET AN UPDATE, UH, PLAN OF ACTION, SCOPE OF WORK, AND A TIMELINE. UH, NOW IT MAY TAKE YOU LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, BUT UH, AT THE END OF THIS 30 DAYS, APRIL 6TH, [01:00:01] WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE STAND BASED OFF YOUR ACTIONS AND, AND, AND, UH, OUR INACTION WITH YOUR, UH, WITH YOUR MORTGAGE COMPANY AND WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. OKAY. SO WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING ON BY THAT TIME. OKAY. YOU KNOW, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL EITHER DECIDE TO EXTEND IT AGAIN OR OKAY. LET IT GO AND LET THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO, MM-HMM . THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. SO MR. CHAIR, YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I WILL. ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, EXTEND, I'M SORRY, EXTEND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, ORDER TO APRIL, THE APRIL 6TH MEETING. AND AT THAT MEETING, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE DECISION TO BE MADE AS TO CONTRACTORS AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE DETAIL PLAN'S GONNA BE AND IF THERE'S AN ENGINEER REPORT AVAILABLE OR AN ENGINEER'S BEEN CONTACTED AND IN THE WORKS FOR THE REPAIRS AND THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THE SCOPE OF WORK. AND WHO DO YOU WANT TO APPEAR AT THAT MEETING? UM, I THINK ALL THE PARTIES HERE TODAY, IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, UH, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO APPEAR. SO MR. BRACKET, UH, MR. DEVOS AND, UH, MS. MALONE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A CAN GO AHEAD. CAN I CLARIFY BECAUSE YES, MR. DEMO MOSS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE CONTRACTOR. SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WANTING IS THE OWNER OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND LIEN HOLDER OR LIEN HOLDER REPRESENTATIVE SHALL APPEAR AT THE BUILDING ADVISORY APPEALS BOARD MEETING WITH A CONTRACTOR OR OTHER INDIVIDUAL CAPABLE OF SPEAKING TO THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND THEY SHALL BE PREPARED TO PRESENT THE ANTICIPATED SCOPE OF WORK AND STATUS OF THE, UM, PROFESSIONALS AND REPAIRS. MM-HMM . YES, MA'AM. YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT IS A MORE POINT FOR WHAT I'M SAYING? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . SO I HAVE A, UH, MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. ADD A SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED BY VOTE. SIX ZERO MS. MALONE? NO, THAT'S OKAY. MS. MALONE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING, WHAT WE'RE SAYING NOW? UM, SO BY APRIL 6TH WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK WITH YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, WITH YOUR LENDER AND THEIR CONTRACTOR, OR WHO YOUR CONTRACTOR MAY BE. MM-HMM . UM, WITH THE, BASICALLY THE DECISION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND A DETAILED PLAN, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING, UM, IF WE HAVE AN ENGINEER'S REPORT AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD LIKE IT. UM, BUT IF THERE'S NO ENGINEER'S REPORT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE THAT SOON, BUT AT LEAST AN ENGINEER'S BEEN CONTACTED AND IT'S IN THE WORKS. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THAT'S BEEN THE ORDER THAT, UM, THAT THIS BOARD HAS, UM, AGREED TO. IS THAT, IS THAT UNDER, IS THAT, ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD KIND OF WHERE, WHAT THAT WAS. SO, OKAY. THAT'S ALL. NEXT ITEM. ALL THE AGENDA IS THE ADJOURNMENT. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. SIX ZERO WE'RE, UH, ADJOURNED AT 7:03 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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