Feb 10, 2026 Planning &amp; Zoning 02102026

IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.

AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NOT FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

UM, THERE IS ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM ONE APPROVAL, THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2025 P AND Z MEETING.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO MA'AM.

UH, THE JANUARY 13TH, 2026 MEETING.

NOW SPEAKER CAUSE COMMISSIONER FKO, WILL YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION? SURE.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

I SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA FORM JANUARY 13TH, 2026 BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

I'M JUST READING FROM HERE.

SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF USES.

GOOD

[2. SUP-26-01-0002 - Specific Use Permit - Truck Repair Facility at 1830 High Prairie Rd (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for Heavy Truck/ Heavy Equipment Repair on 5.491 acres. Lot 3R2, Block D, High Prairie Business Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned Light Industrial (LI) District, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1830 and 1840 High Prairie Rd]

EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

SO THE ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST, SUP 26 0 1 0 0 2.

THIS IS FOR A TRUCK REPAIR FACILITY.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY SHOWN IN YELLOW, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 13 18 30 AND 18 18 40 HIGH PRAIRIE ROAD.

THE, UM, PROPERTY ZONE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS GENERAL AREA IS

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THAT DOES INVOLVE SOME TRUCKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT IN LOGISTICS TYPE OF OPERATION.

THE REASON THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING SUP IS TYPICALLY TRUCK, UM, HEAVY TRUCK AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT REPAIR IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

HOWEVER, THEY HAPPEN TO FALL WITHIN THE 1 61 CORRIDOR OVERLAY, WHICH STOPS RIGHT AT THE ROY ORE.

THEREFORE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO REQUEST A SUP BEFORE THEY CAN OCCUPY A SUITE TO DO THE OPERATION FOR TRUCK AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT REPAIRS.

THE UM, APPLICANT ACTUALLY HAS A, UH, SUITE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THAT HAS HAD CO FOR A TRUCK REPAIR IN THE PAST.

UM, WHEN THE OPERATION WAS GROWING, THEY WANTED TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL SUITE AREA TO INCREASE THEIR ADMIN OFFICE AND THEIR STORAGE AREAS.

AND WE REALIZED THAT THAT PARTICULAR SUITE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR TOO LONG.

SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO ACQUIRE THE SUP FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE OPERATION.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE MET WITH THE, UM, THE PROPOSED TENANT AND THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER.

THEY HAVE AGREED TO APPLY FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

SO UNDER THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, ANY TENANT THAT IS DOING A HEAVY TRUCK OR HEAVY MENT REPAIR WOULD BE ABLE TO LOCATE WITHIN ANY OF THE SUITES WITHIN THIS SUP BOUNDARY AS LONG AS THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE SAME SUP REGULATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AGAIN, UM, DURING THE RESEARCH, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THERE HAS BEEN MANY CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCIES ISSUED IN THE PAST FOR VARIOUS TENANTS.

WE JUST COULD NOT TIE THAT DOWN TO SPECIFIC SUITES.

HOWEVER, THOSE USES INCLUDED LOGISTICS WAREHOUSE, TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIRS AND TRUCK REPAIR SHOPS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS NOT INHERENTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PREVIOUS USES WERE.

AGAIN, HERE'S THE PICTURES OF THE AREA.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS KIND OF IN A ROW.

THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY OCCUPIES THE TWO MIDDLE BUILDING AS SHOWN.

SO THIS TWO BUILDING IS THE OCCU, UM, APPLICANT'S PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, GENERALLY THE PARKING AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE MAINTAINED PRETTY WELL CLEAN AND CLEAN OPERATION.

WHEN I DROVE AROUND THE SITE, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE NOT JUST TRUCK REPAIRS, BUT THERE WERE OTHER LOGISTICS COMPANY.

I SAW A LARGE, UM, BOX TRUCKS LOADING, YOU KNOW, BOXES OF, UH, PREPACKAGED THINGS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE VARIOUS TENANTS.

SO CONTINUE ON.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TRUCK DUCTS AND SOME SEMIS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

HOWEVER, IN GENERAL, THE AREA IS OPERATED CLEAN AND YOU CAN KIND OF NOTICE THAT EVEN THE SURROUNDING AREA, THERE ARE NO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AROUND THERE.

GENERALLY, THIS AREA IS MAINLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF USES.

UM, STAFF DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.

SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING THREE CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY ADDED TO ANY AUTOMOTIVE RELATED USES.

FIRST IS THAT THE BUSINESS SHALL OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND AN AUTO RELATED BUSINESS PERMIT.

UM, ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT HAS BOTH UNDER THE REVIEW CURRENTLY.

SO IF THE SUP IS APPROVED, THEY CAN GET THESE, UM, FINISHED.

THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A PROOF OF GARBAGE SERVICES TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY PRIOR TO STRESS OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

ALL OPERATIONS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS FOUND IN CHAPTER 13, WHICH, UM, DEALS WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESS REGULATIONS, ANY NUISANCES THAT ARE TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH OPERATIONS.

THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT PRESENTATION.

SPEAKER CARDS, WHO'S THE APPLICANT? I DUNNO.

RAFAEL? YES.

HE'S WITH THIS ONE? YES.

UH, WE HAVE ONE CARD FOR RAFAEL BA WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? UH, YES.

THIS IS, UH, MY NAME IS RAFAEL ANO.

AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR, UH, WHAT YOUR ADDRESS, UH, MY ADDRESS FOR THIS OR PERSONAL ADDRESS, WHICHEVER ADDRESS YOU WANNA GIVE US.

UH, LET'S USE THIS ONE.

1830 HIGH PRAIRIE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.

AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, AND DREW, YOU DID A GREAT JOB, UH, EXPLAINING EVERYTHING.

SHE TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTTA MY MOUTH.

SO I WAS HERE AND I PUT MY CARD ON AND JUST IN CASE, UH, THERE WAS ANY VITAL DETAILS MISSING, BUT SHE GAVE 110% OF THE SAME THINGS.

I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, I'M A, I'M REPRESENTING THE TENANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, FROM A REAL ESTATE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOR OVER A DECADE, AND THIS AND A FEW OTHER, UH, PROPERTIES WITHIN TFW HAVE A NICHE FOR TRUCK RELATED BUSINESSES.

COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY THAT EVERYBODY JUST KNOWS ABOUT, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, TRUCK RELATED, UH, BUSINESSES.

AND THIS IS A WELL-KNOWN, UH, SITE, UH, AMONGST THE

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THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF THEM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW, UM, NOT NOT DISCLOSING HOW MUCH IT COSTS PER MONTH, BUT THERE'S A VERY, VERY HIGH PREMIUM TO GET HERE BECAUSE OF, OF THE NICHE FOR TRUCK RELATED BUSINESSES.

AND IF ANYONE WERE TO DRIVE BY THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING BUT TRUCKS AND TRUCK RELATED BUSINESSES, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB KEEPING IT CLEAN.

UM, MY CLIENT'S GOT A PHENOMENAL BUSINESS.

HE'S A GREAT BUSINESSMAN.

AND, UM, WE, WE LEASED THE SPACE NEXT DOOR, WHICH WAS SUITE, UH, UH, D I'M SORRY, SUITE, UM, YEAH, SUITE D.

AND, UM, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE.

WE GOT THE PERMIT IN, IN A HEARTBEAT FOR THE PLACE NEXT DOOR ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

IT, IT TOOK MAYBE A WEEK.

IT WAS THE EASIEST PERMIT WE'VE EVER GONE.

SO WE, THIS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS DIDN'T EVEN CROSS OUR MINDS.

AND THEN THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF, IT'S A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX.

LIKE, I, LIKE, I LIKE TO SAY IT, BUT, UM, JUNE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB EXPLAINING IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

BUT, UM, I ONLY, I ONLY HAVE ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BUSINESS BEING HERE.

OF COURSE, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

OF COURSE.

DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PROXIMITY, ANY OTHER, UH, HEAVY, UH, REPAIR, UH, TRUCKS, UH, SERVICES IN THE AREA? OR IS THIS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE IN THE, THE GRAND PRAIRIE AREA FOR YOU? UH, IN GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN DALLAS OFF OF MANANA.

I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN, UH, FORT WORTH OFF SUPERIOR PARKWAY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE AREN'T ANY, BUT THESE ARE THE THREE I DO.

THE, THE HEAVY HITTERS YEAH.

THAT I DO THE MOST AMOUNT OF BUSINESS IN.

UM, THEY NEED TO DO, THERE'S A HIGH, UH, AS FAR AS SUPPLY AND DEMAND GOES, THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND, VERY, VERY LOW SUPPLY MM-HMM .

AND I HOPE THE METROPLEX IN GENERAL, UH, FIXES THAT.

UM, NOT JUST THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL FROM THE METROPLEX DFW PERSPECTIVE.

'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, RELOCATIONS FOR TRUCKING COMPANIES, LOGISTICS COMPANIES.

AND SO IT'S A HUMONGOUS NECESSITY.

UM, AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND.

AND, AND SO MM-HMM .

UH, EVERYTHING JUST WORKS OUT WELL.

EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

MY PLEASURE.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER KOS AREA COMMISSIONER, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANNA SAY.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM TWO SUP DASH 26 DASH OH ONE DASH ZERO TWO AND VOTE TO APPROVE WITH DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND THAT I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM TWO BY COMMISSIONER, UH, FKO AND IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS PER DRC.

RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[3. SUP-26-01-0001 - Specific Use Permit - Convenience Store at 615 Small Hill St (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit for a convenience store without gas in an existing commercial lease space on 0.76 acres. Lot 1, Block 1, Garrett Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned Commercial (C) District, and addressed as 615 Small Hill St, Suite 110]

LINER GAMING MACHINES SHALL BE PROHIBITED, AND ALSO OUTSIDE STORAGE OR DISPLAY AREAS ARE PROHIBITED.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE SUP TWO SIX DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 0 1 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS AN SUP REQUEST FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS.

AT LOCATED AT SIX 15 SMALL HILL STREET ZONE COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION, UM, ACROSS FROM THE GRAND PRAIRIE WATER UTILITIES.

IT IS A 1500 SQUARE FEET CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS SALES, UM, PROPOSED IN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL LEASE SPACE.

IT DOES MEET ALL OF THE PROPERTY REQUIREMENTS.

THE BUSINESS HOURS FOR THIS IS OUR PLAN TO BE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 7:00 AM TO 11:00 PM THEY WOULD HAVE ONE TO TWO EMPLOYEES PER SHIFT.

UM, THEY DO HAVE SOME SAFETY FEATURES, INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR SECURITY CAMERAS.

THEY HAVE A WELL LIT STOREFRONT.

AND IN, UH, LIGHTING, IN THE PARKING AREAS, THE INVENTORY THAT THEY WOULD BE CARRYING IS PACKAGED FOOD, BEVERAGES, AND HOUSEHOLD ESSENTIALS.

UM, ALCOHOL SALES ARE OPTIONAL.

THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING IT AT THIS TIME, BUT IN CASE THEY DO, THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, UM, AS WELL AS TABC.

THERE ARE A FEW OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES LOCATED IN THE VICINITY.

UM, THE CLOSEST ONE BEING 0.1 MILES AWAY, UM, ALONG BELTLINE, WHICH WAS RECENTLY PASSED, UH, LAST YEAR.

UM, AND THEN THAT ATEX CONVENIENCE STORE IS LOCATED 0.3 MILES AWAY, AND THERE IS A CHEVRON, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN ONE, UM, 0.4 MILES AWAY.

AND THAT ONE HAS GAS.

UH, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT SMOKING IS PROHIBITED INSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT.

UM, EIGHT

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THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IF YOU WANNA COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.

SPEAKER CARDS? YES.

WE HAVE A CARD FROM THE APPLICANT, SAIA, OAS ALI, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

UM, MY NAME IS SOIA WITH ALI.

AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE.

YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS.

YOUR ADDRESS.

UM, MY ADDRESS IS 6 1 5 SMALL HILL.

WHERE IS THAT? UH, 6 1 5.

A SMALL HILL STREET.

IS THAT GRAND PRAIRIE? YEAH, IS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING, GIVE ME YOUR TIME.

UM, UH, I WANNA SAY YOU LIKE, UH, UH, I CHOOSE THE, THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY.

UH, THE LOCATION IS REALLY NICE IF I, I'M THE WOMAN AND I'M TRYING TO OPEN MY OWN BUSINESS, SO THAT'S WHY I CHOOSE THIS LOCATION.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ACCORDING TO MY BUSINESS, SO YOU CAN ASK AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE ANSWER.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THAT NOTICE NO SERVICE STATION.

AND, UM, I JUST, WAS IT GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE THE SERVICE STATION OR I MEAN THE GAS STATION, OR YOU JUST DECIDED YOU DIDN'T WANNA DEAL WITH THAT? UM, UH, THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS GOOD.

LIKE, UH, UH, I DON'T, I JUST WANNA OPEN THE SMALL MART.

THE MINI MART? YEAH.

BUT IT, DID IT ALREADY HAVE THE, THE, THE GAS FACILITY THERE? I CAN'T DON'T RECALL SEEING THAT.

NO.

NO GUEST FACILITY.

THIS IS JUST THE MAR.

IS IS THIS YOUR FIRST BUSINESS? YEAH, BUT MY HUSBAND, HE HAS A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH A, A BUSINESS, UH, STORES.

AND HE HAS ALSO THE C PHONE STORE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU.

THANK, GOOD LUCK.

YOU.

THANK YOU ALL OF YOU.

YOU SO MUCH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER CARDS? NO FURTHER CARDS? OKAY.

THIS IS, UM, COMMISSIONER ARI DISTRICT.

DO YOU ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS, MA'AM? UH, NO.

IT'S, YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? YEP.

READY TO, TO MAKE A MOTION.

SO, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, WE MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM SUP DASH 26 DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 0 1 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CONVENIENCE STORE, UH, AND APPROVE PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM THREE BY COMMISSIONER ARI AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UM, OO ALL AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS SUP DASH 25 DASH 12 DASH 0 0 4 5.

NEXT CASE PLEASE.

[4. SUP-25-12-0045 - Specific Use Permit - Western Union at 817 W Pioneer (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit to add a Check Cashing Business at an existing Credit Union in a commercial lease space on 4.286 acres. Lot 4B, Block 1, Carrier Crossing Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned General Retail (GR) District, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 817 W Pioneer Pkwy, Suite 156]

IT IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ADD CHECK CASHING BUSINESS AT AN EXISTING WESTERN UNION LOCATED AT 8 1 7 WEST PIONEER PARKWAY ZONE, UH, GENERAL RETAIL.

AND IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE 1 61 CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION THERE.

UM, THE, THE LOCATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTHERN, UH, END.

AND I'LL TELL YOU MORE IN A MINUTE.

UM, SO THIS IS A CHECK CASHING BUSINESS AT AN EXISTING FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO SHOW YOU WHERE IT IS.

IT'S THIS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE WESTERN UNION THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING AND THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD THE CHECK CACHING OPERATIONS TO THEIR CURRENT EXISTING BUSINESS PLAN.

THEIR BUSINESS HOURS, WHICH THEY'RE ALREADY OPERATING AT, ARE 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.

UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE STORE MANAGER AND ONE TO THREE TELLERS.

THEY WILL ALSO BE PART OF THE CHECK CACHING SERVICES IF APPROVED.

THE SERVICES THEY WILL BE PROVIDING IS VERIFYING CUSTOMER INFORMATION AGAINST THE DATABASE AND COMPLIANCE LIST, VERIFYING PAYMENT METHODS, UTILIZING POINT OF SALE TERMINALS OR CASH CHECKING TOOL, CHECKING TOOLS TO PROCESS TRANSACTIONS.

AND PAYMENTS WILL BE PROCESSED IN THE BACKEND THROUGH A SETTLEMENTS TEAM.

THEY HAVE SOME SAFETY FEATURES.

UM, FUNDS ARE KEPT IN SMART SAFES.

THE SITE IS ALSO SECURED WITH SAFETY TECHNOLOGY.

THEIR CHECK CACHING ACTIVITY THAT THEY ARE ESTIMATING WILL BE LIMITED TO 10 TO 30 CHECKS CASH PER MONTH.

THERE ARE SOME PROHIBITIONS PER ARTICLE FOUR.

SECTION 11 OF THE UDC CHECK CASHING BUSINESSES ARE PROHIBITED FROM THE FOLLOWING THREE, UM, WHICH APPLY IN THIS CASE.

NUMBER ONE, LOCATING WITHIN 1000 FEET OF ANOTHER CHECK CASHING BUSINESS.

UM, AND THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, PARCEL

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IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING CHECK CASHING BUSINESS ALONG ITS EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THIS BUSINESS RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS EXISTING, UM, IN THE PROPOSED WESTERN UNION IS SOMEWHERE HERE.

UM, NUMBER TWO WITHIN 300 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR USES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT ALONG THE SOUTHERN AND THE WESTERN, THERE IS SOME SINGLE FAMILY DETACH RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND NUMBER THREE, WITHIN ANY, UM, ESTABLISHED, UM, OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND AS I ALREADY MENTIONED, THIS IS IN THE 1 61 CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER FEDERICO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS EXISTING CHECK CASHING BUSINESS IS ABOUT 400 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.

NUMBER ONE, PROXIMITY TO ANOTHER CHECK CASHING, UM, EXCEPTION TO THAT PROHIBITION FROM LOCATING WITHIN 1000 FEET OF ANY OTHER LOT OR PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING ANOTHER CHECK CASHING BUSINESS.

NUMBER TWO, PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USE EXCEPTION TO THE PROHIBITION FROM LOCATING WITHIN 300 FEET OF ANY LOT OR PARCEL OF LAND ZONED RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND NUMBER THREE, THE EXCEPTION, UH, TO BE IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, EXCEPTION TO THE PROHIBITION FROM LOCATING WITHIN ANY ESTABLISHED OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THERE WERE 53 NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT.

ONE WAS RETURNED IN OPPOSITION, BASICALLY STATING THERE ARE TOO MANY CHECK CACHING IN THIS LOCATION.

THE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

UH, NUMBER ONE, THAT BUSINESS OPERATIONS WILL REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE ATTACHED OPERATIONAL PLAN AT ALL TIMES.

AND NUMBER TWO, THAT MONTHLY CHECK CACHING ACTIVITY IS LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN 100 CHECKS PER MONTH, AS MAY BE DETERMINED BY AN AUDIT BY THE CITY FINANCE DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE.

THAT'S THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MEDINA? UM, APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG HAS THE WESTERN UNION BEEN THERE? NO, I DUNNO.

YEARS? YEAH, I THINK IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

SO, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHY NOW DO THEY WANT TO START CASHING CHECKS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY.

I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE.

OKAY, GOOD.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I WAS GONNA ASK THAT VERY SAME QUESTION.

SO THEN WE'LL, WE'LL ASK THE, THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ON THAT ONE.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT JOB.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS AT THIS TIME, BUT, UH, I THINK THE WESTERN UNION IS BEING REPRESENTED.

HAVE YOU FILL OUT A, YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, MA'AM.

CAN YOU COME UP FOR US PLEASE? WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

YOU CAN DO THE SPEAKER CARD WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, UH, RECORD, PLEASE.

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON, NOON.

UH, MY NAME IS JENNIFER RE UM, MY ADDRESS IS, UH, 2119 AND WEST PIONEER IN F PRAIRIE.

UM, WEST UNION HAVE AROUND THE 180 YEARS IN THE, ON THE MARKET.

BUT IS THE NEW PROJECT IS AN OWN LOCATION? IT'S OWN STORES.

AND THIS IS AROUND ONE YEARS, UH, AGO.

AND WHY NOW? BECAUSE, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AROUND AND OUR MISSION IS, UM, SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE WITH THE LOWEST, UM, FEES ON THE MARKET.

OR PRIORITY IS THE MONEY TRANSFER, YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT? BUT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING LIKE A THREE OR 5% FOR CHECK CASHING.

IT'S JUST FOR HEALTH PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE ASK, ASK US MM-HMM .

UM, ABOUT THAT.

IF FOR THAT REASON WE PRESENT THAT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MEDINA? NO.

UH, AND, AND I THINK, UH, A COMPETITIVE MARKET IS ONLY TO ADVANTAGE OF THE CONSUMER.

SO YEAH.

I'M ALL FOR IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT WAS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

THAT WAS THE SAME QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

UH, THANK YOU.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, DI DISTRICT TWO, UH, MALCOLM ERY.

HE'S NOT HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE, UH, UH, MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER LAVONNE MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH DRC.

RECOMMENDATION FOR SUP DASH 25 DASH 12 DASH FOUR FIVE FOR PACIFIC.

UM, USE PERMIT FOR WESTERN UNION AT EIGHT 17 WEST PIONEER.

I SECOND HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR BY COMMISSIONER

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LUCKY VAUGHN, AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEDINA.

UH, AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[5. SUP-25-12-0046 - Specific Use Permit - Registered Group Home (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit for a Registered Group Home on 0.259 acres. Lot 32, Block K, Somerton Village Addition Phase 1, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, zoned Planned Development-259, and addressed as 2772 Pleasant Hill Rd]

ITEM FIVE IS SUP 25 12 0 4 6.

THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A REGISTERED GROUP HOME LOCATED AT 2 7 7 2 PLEASANT HILL ROAD.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN BOUND IN YELLOW.

IT IS WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2 59.

UM, ALL OF THE ZONING PRETTY MUCH AROUND THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO PD 2 59, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LITTLE BIT OF AGRICULTURE ZONING TO THE SOUTHWEST.

HERE IS A STREET VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER.

UM, IN 2023, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING ALL GROUP LIVING UNITS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.

AND UPON REGISTRATION STAFF DETERMINES THE USE AND IF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

YOU CAN READ THE DEFINITION OF REGISTERED GROUP HOME AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.

AN SUP IS REQUIRED IF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN 2,500 FEET OF ANOTHER GROUP LIVING RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

AND THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN ABOUT 1300 FEET FROM ANOTHER REGISTERED, UH, GROUP HOME.

THAT ADDRESS OF THE OTHER REGISTERED GROUP HOME IS 2 7 6 8 PARK PLACE DRIVE.

THEIR TYPE OF LICENSE IS A TYPE A LICENSE, AND THEY HAVE CAPACITY FOR 10 CLIENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT CURRENTLY REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS.

HOWEVER, AN APPLICATION FOR A TYPE B ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.

TYPE B ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES ARE FOR RESIDENTS WHO REQUIRE STAFF ASSISTANCE TO LEAVE THE FACILITY AND ARE NOT CAPABLE OF FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS IN AN EMERGENCY AND REQUIRE NIGHTTIME ASSISTANCE.

OPERATIONS AND CLIENTELE ARE RE REGULATED BY THE STATE.

THIS APPLICANT PROPOSES OFFERING SERVICES TO INCLUDE LIMITED PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE MEDICATION REMINDERS WITH NO ADMINISTRATION, INJECTIONS, OR MEDICAL OVERSIGHT, AND ASSISTANCE WITH MEAL PREPARATION.

THIS FACILITY IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE NON-MEDICAL ASSISTANCE ONLY PER THE OPERATIONAL PLAN IN YOUR PACKET.

THIS WILL BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE CLIENTS.

MEAL PREPARATION, PREPARATION, ASSISTANCE WILL BE OFFERED PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE SUCH AS DRESSING, MOBILITY, AND BATHING SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED.

AND STAFF WILL BE ON SITE 24 HOURS A DAY WITH ONE STAFF MEMBER PRESENT AT ALL TIME, ALL TIMES.

AND ADDITIONAL BACKUP ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE IS NEEDED.

IN NOVEMBER OF 2025, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND FOUND THAT THE GROUP HOME WAS IN OPERATION AND THE APPLICANT INITIATED THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

THE POLICE DEPART DEPARTMENT CONFIRMED THAT NO POLICE OR EMS CALLS FOR SERVICE HAD BEEN LOCKED FOR THIS LOCATION.

AND WE'VE VERIFIED WITH THE CO COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT NO RECORDS OF CODE VIOLATIONS OR CODE RELATED COMPLAINTS EXIST FOR THIS ADDRESS.

WE SENT 30 NOTICES TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

WE'VE RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT.

AN ADDITIONAL LETTER WAS SUBMITTED TO US PRIOR TO THE HEARING FROM A, UH, CLIENT, FAMILY OF, OF THE FACILITY.

AND WE'VE RECEIVED 15 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, REPRESENTING 14 UNIQUE ADDRESSES.

MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS.

THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING COM CONDITIONS.

NUMBER ONE, THE NUMBER OF APPLICANT, UM, OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED.

THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES, MUST MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE REGULATIONS AND, AND LOCAL ORDINANCES MUST BE AN APPROVED REGISTERED GROUP HOME FACILITY IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE TO OPERATE.

AND NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN ALL REQUIRED STATE LICENSES.

MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT IN THE BOARD BRIEFING.

I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, I'D LIKE TO READ THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION, THE, THE LENGTHY ONE, AND THEN THE OTHERS.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT.

'CAUSE THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME BECAUSE, BECAUSE, UM, THIS SITE, THIS GROUP HOME HAS BEEN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW LONG, HOW MANY YEARS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOMEOWNERS SURROUNDING ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TALK ABOUT IT.

THE ONE IN QUESTION THAT, UM, THE ONE BIG OPPOSITION LETTER THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, IS FROM, UM, RAQUEL MARTINEZ AT 27 39 HONEYSUCKLE DRIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, 7 5 0 5 2.

SHE'S IN OPPOSITION.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, I HOPE THIS MESSAGE FINDS YOU WELL.

I'M

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WRITING REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR A REGISTERED GROUP HOME AT 2 7 7 2 PLEASANT HILL, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT GOES INTO EVALUATING SUCH APPLICATIONS, AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES.

I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY RAISE A FEW CONCERNS RELATING RELATED SOLELY TO NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT AND LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH I BELIEVE WARRANT CAREFUL REVIEW AS PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS TRAFFIC AND PARK PARKING CAPACITY.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE RELATIVELY NARROW AND WERE DESIGNED WITH SINGLE FAMILY USE IN MIND.

I'M CONCERNED THAT INCREASED VEHICLE TRAFFIC SUCH AS, UH, STAFF ROTATION, SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND VISITOR PARKING MAY CREATE CONGESTION OR LIMIT SAFE VISIBILITY FOR DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE PROPOSED USE MAY INTRODUCE HIGHER LEVELS OF ACTIVITY THAN A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

I ASK THAT THE REVIEWING BODY CONSIDER WHETHER THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE CAN ADEQUATELY SUPPORT THIS INCREASED ACTIVITY WITHOUT AFFECTING THE CHARACTER OR DAY-TO-DAY LIVABILITY OF THE AREA.

EMERGENCY SERVICES AND SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.

ANY INCREASE IN EMERGENCY SERVICE CALLS OR SPECIALIZED TRANSPORT COULD AFFECT RESPONSE TIMES FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY REVIEW WHETHER THE HOMES OPERATIONS MAY PLACE ADDITIONAL DEMANDS ON LOCAL SERVICES, COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY.

MANY HOMEOWNERS WERE UNAWARE OF THE APPLICATION UNTIL RECENTLY.

AND GREATER CLARITY ABOUT OPERATIONAL EXPECTATIONS, OVERSIGHT, STAFFING, AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS WOULD HELP RESIDENTS BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THE YOUTH WILL INTEGRATE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

CLEAR INFORMATION CAN HELP BUILD TRUST AND REDUCE UNCERTAINTY FOR ALL INVOLVED.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT MY CONCERNS ARE NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY RESIDE IN THE HOME.

I FULLY SUPPORT FAIR, SAFE, AND INCLUSIVE HOUSING FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

MY REQUEST IS SIMPLY THAT THE CITY CAREFULLY EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL LOGISTICAL, TRAFFIC RELATED AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING IMPACTS TO ENSURE THAT ANY APPROVED USE REMAINS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THESE CONCERNS.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THIS WAS A VERY DETAILED, VERY THOUGHTFUL, UM, OPPOSITION LETTER FROM, UH, ONE RESIDENT.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE 14 MORE THAT ARE SIMILAR.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER ARI HAS TWO OF, UH, FOR, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

DID YOU WANNA READ BOTH OF THOSE? UM, YOU HAVE ONE IN THE, I HAVE TWO IN SUPPORT, BUT ONE IS I BELIEVE BY THE APPLICANT.

YOU CAN, THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

READ THE NAME OF THE PERSON FIRST.

UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO SAY PATIENT NAMES OR I WOULD REFRAIN FROM INCLUDING PATIENT NAMES? THAT'S OKAY.

THIS ONE'S IN RECOMMENDATION.

UH, CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, I AM PLEASED TO WRITE THIS LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF PATIENT WHO HAS BEEN RESIDING AT GOLDEN CARE OASIS BOARD AND CARE HOME.

DURING HER TIME LIVING THERE, SHE HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF VERY WELL.

PATIENT IS A DEMENTIA PATIENT THAT HAS LIVED A VIBRANT LIFE.

GOLDEN CARE OASIS, MS. MARY DORSEY AND STAFF ARE STILL TRYING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR HER WITH THE FAMILY IN HOME CARE.

THE HOME IS A BLESSING FOR OUR FAMILY BECAUSE WITHOUT IT, THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE A NURSING HOME.

PATIENT INCOME DOES NOT QUALIFY HER FOR MEDICAID, THEREFORE, THIS IS THE BEST PLACE FOR HER.

I AM HER POWER OF ATTORNEY WHO IS CARING FOR MY HUSBAND WITH LEWY BODY DEMENTIA AND KNOW THE WORK THAT MUST BE DONE.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME IF YOU REQUIRE MORE INFORMATION.

SINCERELY, MS. EVANS.

AND, UM, I THINK THE REST OF THE COMMISSION DID REVIEW THE OTHER LETTERS.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR YOU, I THINK.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR ERIN.

IN REGARDS TO, UM, STATE LICENSING, I KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY APPLIED RIGHT? BUT THE CITY DOESN'T MONITOR THAT, RIGHT? OR MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE? NO, WE DON'T.

UM, IT, IT MAY BE THAT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY GROUP, UM, WILL REQUIRE SOMETHING OF THEM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY MONITORS THAT AT ALL.

A QUESTION AND I MAY HAVE ACCESS IN THE BRIEFING.

AND I GUESS FOR MY SECOND FOLLOW UP TO THAT WOULD BE IF THEY WOULDN'T GET APPROVED, THEN THE STATE OUT, UH, WOULD TAKE SOME ACTION TO TOWARDS THAT.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NEXT STEPS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE.

THE THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE THAT.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, THAT'S OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE

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I'M NOT SURE.

HOW LONG HAS THIS GROUP HOME BEEN THERE? HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN IN OPERATION? BECAUSE THEY SHOULD, WHENEVER THEY WENT OUT TO DO COMPLIANCE CHECK, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN OPERATION.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

MADAME CHAIR FOR THE APPLICANT WHO IS HERE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AARON? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD.

VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

IT'S A LOT.

SPEAKER CARDS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CHAR UH, CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

THE APPLICANT, MARY DORSEY, WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

UM, SHE, UH, REQUESTED TO COME UP WITH THE SECOND SPEAKER, SHANNON MCMILLAN, WHO ALSO ALSO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

ITEM.

HELLO.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

BOTH OF YOU, PLEASE.

YES, I'M SHAYNA MCMILLAN.

AND THE ADDRESS IS 2 7 7 2 PLEASANT HILL IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

AND YOUR NAME? MA'AM.

AND I'M MARY DORSEY, THE OWNER.

AND SAME AT, UH, 2 7 7 2 PLEASANT HILL ROAD DRIVE.

SO IS THAT YOUR HOME? YES.

AND CAN I ASK YOU, HOW LONG HAS THIS, UH, GROUP HOME BEEN IN OPERATION? UM, IT OPENED UP NOVEMBER 20, UH, 2004.

I MEAN, NOT FOUR, I'M SORRY, 2020, WHAT IS IT? 2 2, 4 4.

YEAH, 2000.

SO NOVEMBER OF 2, 20, 24.

SO IT'S BEEN AN OPEN FOR OVER A YEAR? MM-HMM .

THE THE BIG CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT COMING INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS NOT BEING AWARE OF THAT, OF, OF WHAT YOUR, THAT YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THERE.

AND THAT TO ME IS, IS, IS A LITTLE CONCERNING.

SO WHAT, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY? BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.

UM, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.

UM, SO THIS IS, UM, HER FIRST BUSINESS.

SO WHEN WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF LOCATING A PLACE, WE DID FIND SOMEONE.

AND, UM, WHEN HE BROUGHT THE, THE, UM, RESIDENCE TO US, WE DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOA AS WELL.

UM, WE DID QUESTION HIM ABOUT THAT.

WE ASKED IF WE WOULD BE, UH, IF IT WOULD BE OKAY FOR US TO OPERATE MM-HMM .

IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HE SAID THAT, UM, DUE TO THE TYPE OF HOA OR I GUESS HOW THIS HOA IS GOVERNED, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

AND THEN HE ALSO LET US KNOW THAT HE DID TALK TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.

WHO IS THE HE? WHO IS THE HE? OH, SO THIS WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE HOME? MM-HMM.

HE'S NOT HERE TODAY.

HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.

UM, HIS NAME IS RON.

RON, WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME? WOOD.

RON WOOD.

SO HE DID INFORM US THAT HE SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE THE ONES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

LIKE THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS FINE.

AGAIN, WE ARE NEW TO THE BUSINESS.

UM, HAD, HAD WE KNOWN, WE DEFINITELY WOULD'VE WENT OUT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE.

UM, BUT WE ARE LEARNING AS WE GO.

UM, WE DID NOT KNOW THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP MM-HMM .

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST BUSINESS, SO WE JUST KIND OF MOVED IN AND STARTED TO OPERATE.

UM, HAD WE KNOWN THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD HAVE, UM, PROBABLY HELPED US MAKE A DECISION.

UM, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT FROM THE OUT OUTSIDE, I'M JUST BEING MM-HMM .

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.

YOU'RE, EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, OR, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN SOMEBODY WHEN THEY MOVE IN, YOU DON'T, YOU JUST ASSUME IT'S ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY.

BUT TO BE TRANSPARENT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS IMPORTANT.

AND THEN MAYBE IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO MUCH.

NOW THEY'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN AWARE MM-HMM .

SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ANGRY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OPPOSITION LETTERS HERE.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I, WHY I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ANY OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO COME IN, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME TO OUR RESIDENCE, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME IN, SEE HOW WE OPERATE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF THAT MAKES THEM FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

UM, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IS JUST THE CONCERNS FOR TRAFFIC.

UM, WHEN SHE SHOWED THE PICTURE THERE, YOU SAW TWO CARS IN THE PARKING LOT.

UM, THAT'S GONNA BE RARE.

THERE'S HARDLY EVER ANY CARS IN THE PARKING LOT.

UH, RESIDENTS ARE, I MEAN, THE WORKERS ARE DROPPED OFF.

UM, IF YOU DO SEE A CAR IN THE PARKING LOT, IT WILL PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE RESIDENT'S FAMILY MEMBERS.

AND WE'VE NEVER HAD AN INSTANCE WHERE TWO FAMILY MEMBERS WERE THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UM, TRAFFIC WOULD BE A FACTOR FOR THEM.

THE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE A FACTOR FOR ME IS THAT THERE'S A HEAVY TRASH, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENTLY BEING IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME, BECAUSE

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THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRASH MM-HMM .

AND, AND IT, IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE OTHER RESIDENTS WE TALK.

SO, AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, NO, WE ONLY HAVE THREE RESIDENTS.

SO IT'S A VERY SMALL FACILITY.

IT'S, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT ACCUMULATING A LOT OF TRASH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

NO.

UM, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRASH ON THE STREETS FOR US.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT AMBULANCES OR ANY OF THAT STUFF.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN, YOU KNOW, ANY COMPLAINTS.

AGAIN, THEY DID NOT KNOW WE WERE THERE.

AND WE DO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WE DID NOT, WE WERE JUST UNAWARE OF THE PROTOCOLS AND THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING.

BUT WE ARE AWARE NOW, AND WE DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN COMPLIANCE.

WE ARE, UH, OPEN.

WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING, UH, VERY OPEN.

JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE JUST HAD TO LEARN AS WE GO.

RIGHT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL, YOU BEING TRANSPARENT MM-HMM .

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU MORE ABOUT, UH, WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS AN SUP REQUIRED? AND, UH, HOW DID YOU FIND OUT? SO WE FOUND OUT, UM, AND, AND WE, WE CALLED THEM IN TO, YOU KNOW, COME IN, SEE OUR, UH, FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND AT THE TIME THAT THEY, UH, THE CITY CAME IN, THAT'S WHEN THEY LET US KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WITHIN 2,500 FEET OF ANOTHER FACILITY.

AND WE DID NOT KNOW THAT.

SO AT THAT POINT, UM, WE WERE LIKE, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO? UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEM HERE.

AND THAT'S WHEN THEY LET US KNOW THAT THE SUP PERMIT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD APPLY FOR TO SEE IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN IN THE SPACE.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE STEPS TO GET COMPLIANCE WITH THE CI, UM, WENT TO GO AND REGISTER TO GET A PERMIT.

THAT'S WHEN IT ALL STARTED TOO.

I WENT, I WENT TO GO REGISTER AND THAT'S WHEN THEY TOLD US ABOUT, WE WERE CLOSE TO ANOTHER, UM, HOME.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION NOW.

'CAUSE IF I'VE KNOWN THAT, THAT IT BEFORE, THEN WE WOULDN'T EVEN TOOK THE HOME BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA BE INTO WHERE WE'RE IN NOW.

SO THAT'S THE REASON.

BUT YOU, YOU SAID YOU THE PURCHASE WAS NOVEMBER, 2024? YES.

BUT THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS ORDINANCE WAS IN, IN EFFECT AS, AS OF 2023.

I KNOW, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW THIS.

LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO APPARENTLY THAT WASN'T ANY AS SO AS SOON AS YOU WERE NOTIFIED BY THE CITY MM-HMM .

IS WHEN YOU MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN YEAH.

'CAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A YEAR EARLIER.

THAT'S IT.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW.

SO WE'VE KNOWN WE WOULD'VE BEEN, DID EVERYTHING FROM THE JUMP THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO NOW THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.

MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WHAT YOUR PLAN IS TO, UM, UH, YOU HAVE THREE THAT IS THE PLAN TO MM-HMM .

KEEP IT AS IT IS AND NOT YES, MA'AM.

INCREASE ANYTHING? YES.

THE PLAN IS TO KEEP IT AT THREE.

UM, THEY DID EXPRESS THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING LICENSED MM-HMM .

SO WE WANTED TO JUST TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP TO ENSURE THAT, UM, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND, UM, FOLLOW THE LAWS HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO.

NO.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER? I GUESS JUST ABOUT YOUR RESIDENTS, JUST FOR THE LETTER IN SUPPORT.

UM, YOU ALSO HAVE SECURITY IN PLACE FOR THOSE TYPE OF PATIENTS, THE DEMENTIA PATIENTS THAT MAY POSSIBLY ESCAPE.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE SECURITY.

UM, WE, WE PUT, UH, WE PUT THINGS ON THE DOORS AND LIKE ON THE KNOBS AND THE HANDLE SO THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO, TO GET OUT, OPEN THE DOORS.

UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, OUR RESIDENTS ARE THERE.

UH, I'M SORRY.

OUR, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE THERE.

UM, THEY WATCH OVER, WE DON'T HAVE AN UNRULY DEMENTIA PATIENT, SO WE DON'T HAVE A PATIENT THAT'S TRYING TO LEAVE THE HOME.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH AS WELL.

UM, IF THERE EVER CAME, BECAME AN INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD A DEMENTIA PATIENT THAT WAS TRYING TO LEAVE THE HOME AND WE REALIZED THAT THEY'RE NOT SAFE THERE ANYMORE, THAT'S WHEN, OF COURSE WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, LET THE FAMILY KNOW THAT IT MAY BE MORE, IT MAY BE BETTER IF THEY TOOK THE PATIENT TO MEMORY CARE VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL CARE HOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER COLEY.

HOW Y'ALL DOING? DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR LICENSE WITH THE STATE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

WELL, I AM TRYING TO GET ME DOING MY LICENSE.

WHAT IF YOU DON'T GET THAT LICENSE? HMM.

WHAT IF YOU'RE NOT LICENSED WITH THE STATE? I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD GET THE LICENSE.

LETTING THE CITY KNOW THAT WE WERE DENIED.

AGAIN, IF WE DON'T GET THE LICENSE, UM, IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF, I GUESS, COMING BACK HERE OR BRINGING THAT BEFORE YOU, OR

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AND THEN FROM THERE WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD REQUEST OF US AT THAT POINT.

VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THE QUESTIONS.

SINCE THIS IS MY DISTRICT, MY DISTRICT, I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BUT MY, THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THIS IS ALREADY KIND OF GRANDFATHERED IN.

THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE OVER A YEAR AND, UM, NO PROBLEMS. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD PUT SOME STIPULATION IN THERE ABOUT THEM HAVING TO COME BACK OR GIVE THEM A TIMELINE TO GET THIS DONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TIMELINE WOULD BE ON GETTING THE, THE PERMISSIONS FROM THE STATE AND FROM ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, OR WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? SAME COMMENTS.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT A STIPULATION THAT WE'RE OUT OF CONTROL OF.

SO THAT PROCESS IS SEPARATE THAN OUR PROCESS.

SO I WOULD JUST KEEP IT TO WHAT WE CAN CONTROL WITH REGARD TO, CAN WE SAY THAT, UH, REVIEW WITHIN A A, A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS ON, ON WHETHER THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING.

I BELIEVE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT DEPARTMENT, DO THEY INSPECT THESE LOCATIONS.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE FREQUENCY ON THAT, BUT THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF BUILT IN, HENCE THE REASON FOR THIS PROCESS AND THE REGISTRATION.

SO I, I DON'T YOU'RE SAYING OUR HANDS ARE TIED PRETTY MUCH.

I KNOW WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY, ANY CASE PRIOR TO THIS WHERE WE'VE ASKED PEOPLE TO GO HAVE A REVIEW, A FOLLOW UP REVIEW.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO, WOULD BE TASKED TO DO THAT.

I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS LIKE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER O COLEY SAID THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TIMELINE, BUT MAKE SURE THEY GET THE, THE STATE APPROVAL.

'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE OCCUPY OCCUPYING A RESIDENCE WITHOUT THE PROPER APPROVALS.

SO KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THESE GROUP LIVING, UM, FACILITIES CAN OPERATE AS NON-LICENSED AND LICENSED NOW.

THAT'S AGAIN, WHERE PUBLIC HEALTH GETS INVOLVED AND VERIFIES WHAT THEY CAN AND WHO CAN BE, UH, HOUSE.

SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SAY A LOT OF THIS GETS, IF YOU DO THIS, THIS APPLIES.

IF YOU DO THAT, THIS APPLIES.

SO THE SUP APPROACH, PART OF THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON.

THE LICENSING.

SURE.

WE WANT THEM LICENSED, BUT THERE'S STILL A PROCESS FOR THEM TO OPERATE WITHOUT A LICENSE.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE THAT ABILITY.

MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CARDS AS WELL FOR THE GO AHEAD.

UM, JASON GARRELL, WHICH IS TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM, HE ALSO WISHES TO NOT SPEAK.

SO MR. GARRELL, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME FORWARD.

OH, I WAS JUST IN CASE, UH, SOMEONE ELSE WAS HERE.

I DIDN'T WANNA TAKE MY TIME.

BUT YOU'VE ALREADY YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PAGE.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME FORWARD.

YES, SIR.

UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

I NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FIRST.

UM, SORRY.

MY NAME IS JASON GAR.

I LIVE AT 27 59 HONEYSUCKLE DRIVE.

UM, THEY SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH IN A THOUSAND WORDS.

THIS WAS TAKEN THURSDAY THE DAY, THE MONDAY.

THIS, THIS LETTER WAS RECEIVED ON MONDAY.

THIS WAS TAKEN ON THURSDAY.

THIS IS THE RESIDENCY QUESTION.

THAT IS THE, UH, AMBULANCE VISIT, AMBULANCE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND HOW LONG WERE THEY THERE? UH, MAYBE 20 MINUTES.

UM, I DIDN'T TAKE THIS BECAUSE I WAS SURVEYING THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS OUT MY FRONT WINDOW.

UH, THAT MERELY ARE INCIDENTAL TO THE OWNER'S RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN THE HOME.

SO THIS IS AT MY FRONT YARD.

UM, AS TO THEM SAYING THAT THERE WAS NO CALLS IN THE PAST YEAR, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

'CAUSE I HAVE PHYSICALLY WITNESSED FOUR TIMES, THIS IS NUMBER FOUR OF THE AMBULANCE AND THE PARAMEDIC OR FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOWING UP.

UM, SO THERE'S THAT, UH, THEY DO SHOW UP.

UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED.

I'M, I'M CONFUSED AS TO EXACTLY HOW THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP HOME, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN HOA AND I REALIZE THAT THE HOA IS LIMITED IN THEIR ABILITY TO, UM, CONTROL WHO CAN BE THERE OR NOT.

UM, IT WAS DESIGNATED ACTUALLY BY THIS BOARD IN AUGUST OF 2001 AS A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OF NUCLEAR FAMILIES.

THAT'S WRITTEN IN THE HOA LAWS.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE, UH, BECAUSE IT CANNOT SUPERSEDE STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.

UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER STIPULATION IN OUR, UH, CCNRS AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPLICABLE OR NOT, BUT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ JUST THE FIRST LINE.

NO BUSINESS OR BUSINESS ACTIVITY, WHETHER FOR PROFIT OR NOT, SHALL BE PERMITTED IN OR ON ANY HOUSE OR LOT EXCEPT THAT AN OWNER OR OCCUPANT MAY CONDUCT BUSINESS ACTIVITIES,

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SO, I DUNNO IF THIS APPLIES.

I DUNNO IF THE CCNRS APPLY IN, IN THIS SITUATION.

UM, BUT I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS WASN'T ADDRESSED WITH THE FIRST GROUP HOME AND, UM, I WANTED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THIS GROUP HOME.

AND, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.

UM, WELL, WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE HERE.

I'D LIKE FOR, UH, RASHAD, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? HIS CONCERNS? WELL, BASED ON, UM, WHAT YOU'VE NOTED THAT HO REGULATIONS IS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY CAN ENFORCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, MORE TEETH THEMSELVES TO ENFORCE THE REGULATIONS.

THE LANGUAGE IN THERE COULD BE, UH, INTERPRETED TO KIND OF APPLY, BUT MM-HMM .

ALSO, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME PUSHBACK.

AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT NEITHER I, I IN FACT, THIS IS ALL RESEARCH THAT BEEN THE LA THE PAST WEEK SINCE I GOT THIS LETTER.

SO I, I HAD NO INTENTION OF BEING HERE TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME.

HMM.

RIGHT.

BUT NO, DEFINITELY YOUR INPUT IS WARRANTED.

YOU, YOU, YOU LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UM, I'LL SAY THOUGH THAT THE PUSHBACK IS THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AS WELL AS EXACTLY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WITH, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

STIPULATIONS AND, 'CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN.

SO I, I, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME PUSHBACK IN THAT REGARD, UHHUH .

UM, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, START LOOKING INTO THAT, I WOULD SAY GET WHAT YOUR HOA BOARD TO SEE IF Y'ALL WANT TO AMEND YOUR CCC, THOSE WHEELS ARE IN PROCESS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE PHYSICALLY SEEN THE AMBULANCE, THE FIREFIGHTERS PARAMEDICS SHOW UP FOUR TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR.

JULIE DO.

THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT ATTORNEY HERE? NO, I'LL JUST REITERATE, THE CITY DOESN'T ENFORCE HOA, UM, COVENANTS THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR CCNRS.

UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.

LIKE I SAID, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

WE CAN, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE CAN DO.

I UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT, THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN EXISTING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, YOU KNOW.

BUT, AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS IS, UH, IT PUTS US IN A VERY HARD SPOT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND I'M A HOMEOWNER AS WELL, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PREFER NOT TO HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA THINGS GOING AROUND IN THE, IN THE, IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO, AND, AND WHILE I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION, I WILL SAY THAT THEY'RE VERY QUIET.

YOU DON'T KNOW THEY'RE THERE.

UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

UM, SO, UM, HOW LONG HAS YOUR HOA BEEN THERE? HOW LONG HAS, HAS YOUR RESIDENT, YOUR, THE AREA YOUR HOA HAS BEEN EXIST SINCE HOW LONG? 20 YEARS, TWO YEARS? UH, 2003, I WANNA SAY I'VE LIVED THERE.

I'VE LIVED THERE 22 YEARS.

IN MARCH.

UM, AND I'VE, AND I'VE BEEN UNDER HOA THAT ENTIRE TIME.

SO, UM, AND IT WAS, UH, BUT THE COVENANTS WERE, WERE, WERE THERE AND EXISTED.

SO THE COVENANTS WERE THERE.

PD 2 59 WAS AUTHORIZED IN AUGUST OF 2001.

AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, THIS BOARD RECOMMENDED AN HOA AND THE HOA WAS FORMED.

SO, SO RIGHT AFTER THAT MM-HMM .

2002 MAYBE.

WELL, DOES THIS HELP, UH, BY BEING HERE AND HEARING FROM THE OWNER? UH, ABOUT THE AB ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I WISH THAT THEY WOULD'VE TALKED TO US.

UM, 'CAUSE WHERE WE LIVE, WHERE I LIVE, UM, THREE OR FOUR, FOUR OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED THERE OVER 20 YEARS.

RAQUEL INCLUDED, UM, THIS IS HER, HER, UM, PERSON SHE LIVES WITH, UM MM-HMM .

SO WE'VE ALL LIVED THERE A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND THEN THEY COME IN AND, UH, ALL THIS ACTIVITY STARTS HAPPENING AND WE'RE CONCERN.

SO, AND THAT IS, THAT'S MY CONCERN AS WELL.

UM, YES.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THE CONCERN THAT EMS AND, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES SHOW UP AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE.

THANK YOU MANY, MANY TIMES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HAVE A SPEAKER CARD.

UH, PEGGY BARTHOLOMEW DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS TO RECORD FOR YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE, WE, WE, WE PREFER TO HEAR FROM YOU.

YES, YES.

AND MA'AM, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'LL JUST NEED YOU TO FILL OUT YOUR ADDRESS ON HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

OH, I'M SORRY I LEFT THAT OFF HERE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

PEGGY BARTHOLOMEW.

AND I ACTUALLY LIVE AT 2 7 3 9 HONEYSUCKLE DRIVE.

THE REASON YOU THINK THAT LETTER IS UNDER RAQUEL MARTINEZ IS BECAUSE WE DID IT IN OUR HOA PORTAL.

SO I WAS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY DRAFTED AND SENT THE EMAIL, AND MY WIFE AND I LOOKED IT OVER TOGETHER.

AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M IN HEALTHCARE, I'M WEARING UT SOUTHWESTERN.

AND JASON, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND SHARING.

HE'S ALSO IN HEALTHCARE.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MEDICAL CARE IN THE HOME.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS ABOUT THE BUSINESS THAT WAS PUT IN THERE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.

WE GET NO SAY NOW.

AND THAT'S UPSETTING.

BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS.

AND FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

NOW, WE STILL HAVE NO RECOURSE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT

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IT'S EVER GONNA BE DONE.

AND, AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO BE SAFE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHEN THEY BRING IN ANOTHER THIRD PERSON WHO MAY BE AN A DANGEROUS DEMENTED, YOU KNOW, PATIENT.

WE HAVE KIDS IN THE AREA.

WE HAVE, AND WHEN JASON MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT CAME, WE, I LITERALLY SAW THEM PASS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

NOW, I KNOW THAT THERE CAN BE AN ACUTE ISSUE IN THE HOME, BUT IT'S NOT AN EASY YES.

FOR ME.

IT'S NOT AN EASY YES.

FOR MY WIFE, RAQUEL.

AND WE JUST APPRECIATE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.

AND EVEN IF YOU CAME AROUND AND YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH US NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE OKAY.

YET WE DIDN'T GET A CHOICE.

AND SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED.

I TELL YOU WHAT YOU, YOU DRAFTED A WONDERFUL OPPOSITION LETTER BECAUSE IT WAS DETAILED AND IT, IT, IT HIT ME HARD.

AND I, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT IS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN, THAT THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER A YEAR WITH NO CONSIDERATION FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S SURROUNDING.

AND YOU HAD TO PUT THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT IF THAT YOU WERE LIVING SOMEWHERE AND SOMEBODY BROUGHT IN A BUSINESS AND YOU WEREN'T AWARE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST COMMON COURTESY BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

SO, BUT AT THIS POINT, LIKE, UH, OUR DIRECTOR SAID, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO LEGALLY BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATION AND THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR HOA, YOU KNOW, LITIGATION THAT WAY, BUT WE CAN'T FIX IT.

IT, IT PUTS US IN A VERY HARD SPOT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

AND, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK HONESTY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF, IF YOU SAY, SIR, THAT THE AMBULANCE HAS BEEN THROUGH THREE OR FOUR TIMES THIS, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT HASN'T BEEN, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

I'LL SAY THAT, OH, YOU NEED TO COME UP.

YOU NEED TO COME UP AND STATE THAT.

JUST BEING REALLY TRANSPARENT.

THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO.

THAT, JUST ONE LAST COMMENT.

I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE IF YOU PUT YOURSELVES, AND I CAN HEAR IT FROM YOU, THAT YOU HAVE PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES WITH THIS SITUATION.

WOULD YOU FEEL THE SAME? AND WOULD YOU VOTE THE SAME IF YOU KNEW THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED RIGHT.

RECENTLY.

LITERALLY WITHIN 10 DAYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

I WANNA SAY THAT I, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD ME YESTERDAY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT EMT OR AMBULANCES.

SO THAT WAS MORE SO THE COMMUNITY NOT COMPLAINING TO US ABOUT THAT.

UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS, THE ELDERLY.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE NOT, THEY WEREN'T EVEN AWARE THAT YOU HAD THE BUSINESS MM-HMM .

SO IT'S A LOT OF, UH, NO TRANSPARENCY.

AND IT'S TROUBLE ON BOTH SIDES.

'CAUSE IF THERE HAD BEEN A CONVERSATION, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T BE AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE IN A BETTER PLACE.

BUT THE BUT, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS, THE LAW HAS PASSED, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU, YOU'RE GRANDFATHER THEN, SO TO SPEAK MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE TRY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, AND, AND THERE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, AND, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, IF, IF SOMEBODY HAS DEMENTIA AND THEN GETS OUT, GETS AWAY, THEN, THEN WHAT? YOU KNOW.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.

AND WE'VE, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT SITUATION HAPPEN.

SO WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, WE, WE ARE NOT WORRIED THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE ARE VERY TENTATIVE TO OUR, UH, PATIENT MM-HMM .

OUR RESIDENTS THERE.

UM, IT'S A BUSINESS, BUT WE PUT A LOT OF HEART INTO IT.

UM, THEY ARE CARED FOR REALLY WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LETTER.

UM, THAT IS, THERE WAS NO FLUFF THERE.

THEY ARE CARED FOR VERY WELL.

WE DO APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AGAIN, WE ARE NEW TO THE BUSINESS.

HAD I KNOWN, UM, I DO NOT MIND GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT I'M THERE.

I, I THINK THAT SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THE COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE THAT TO ME, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S THE HARDEST PART FOR ME, SINCE THIS IS MY DISTRICT.

SO I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL THINK, BUT, AND IF AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT YES.

IF IT WAS YOUR, IF YOU WERE LIVING NEXT DOOR, SOMEBODY, I MEAN, YOU'RE IN THAT BUSINESS, SO THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH YOU.

BUT IF YOU WEREN'T IN THE BUSINESS AND SOMEBODY ELSE JUST HAD MOVED IN AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW YES.

AND IT WOULD BE TROUBLING.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE HONEST.

I UNDERSTAND.

TO, AND I THINK WE JUST DEPENDED SOLELY ON THE, UM, TESTIMONY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE RENTING FROM.

THEY, THEY MISREPRESENTED YOU, THE SELLER MISREPRESENTED AND DIDN'T, WAS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.

THE LANDLORD.

SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

HE TOLD ME THAT HE WENT AND TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE.

BUT THE BIG PICTURE THOUGH, YOU HAVE A TITLE POLICY.

THE TITLE POLICY INCLUDES THE COVENANTS.

I DO REMEMBER THAT FROM

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A LONG TIME AGO.

I'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES.

AND THE TITLE POLICY STIPULATES THIS AND THAT.

AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT THAT WAS NOT A PART OF A, OF A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA, YOU KNOW, ON THE OUTSET IN THE COVENANTS OF THE HOA.

AND, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE, UM, THE COMMUNITY FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE ARE OPEN TO WORKING WITH THEM.

LET ME SEE IF ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LAVONNE.

MADAM CHAIR.

IS MY MIC ON NOW? YES.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UM, A STATEMENT.

UM, I FIRST WANT TO, UM, THANK, UM, THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES, HOMEOWNERS, UM, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND EXPRESSING, UM, YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE I TOO, UM, LIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, HOA AREA.

BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS.

UM, UH, WHEN MY HOUSE WAS BUILT, MY HOUSE WAS THE THIRD HOUSE TO BE BUILT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO I DONE SERVED ON THE BOARD AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.

UM, I WOULD PROBABLY SUGGEST NOW MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE YOUR NEWS TO PUT IN YOUR NEWSLETTERS.

SOMEONE ELSE IS OPERATING LIKE THAT.

UM, MAYBE, UM, INFORM THOSE HOMEOWNERS IF THEY'RE LEASING OUT, RENT OUT, MAKING THEM MINDFUL OF, OF THE CITY REQUIREMENTS NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OPERATING LIKE THAT ALL OVER GRAND PRAIRIE, AND SOME HAVE NOT GOT THE NEWS.

BUT, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR FRUSTRATION ABOUT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A BUSINESS OPERATING, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE CONSENT.

UM, THE WAY THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOVERNED.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW, PROBABLY LIKE 30 YEARS AGO, YOU GOT UP AND YOU EITHER LEFT GRAND PRAIRIE AND YOU WENT TO WORK, OR YOU WENT TO WORK HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING THEIR BUSINESS IN THEIR HOMES, AND NOBODY'S AWARE THAT THAT BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED IN THE HOUSE.

UM, I WAS LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER REED, ONE OF THE SUPPORT LETTERS.

AND THE SUPPORT LETTER WAS FROM A PATIENT, UM, UH, A PATIENT, I GUESS RELATIVE OR POWER OF ATTORNEY.

AND WHAT REGISTERED TO ME IS THAT THEY WERE WRITING A LETTER IN SUPPORT, TALKING ABOUT THE CARE, UM, OF THAT PATIENT, UM, WHERE THEY HAD NO COMPLAINTS.

UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HOA STATED THAT THE HOUSE IS QUIET.

THAT THERE'S NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE HOA, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE HOA IS FEELING A LITTLE DISRESPECTED BECAUSE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD GO TO THE HOA AND AND EVEN ASK IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EMS STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES, CO COMPLIANCE, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES.

UM, THE OWNER, UM, STATED THAT WHEN SHE WENT TO TRY TO GET A PERMIT, THAT'S WHEN SHE BECAME AWARE THAT A SUP WAS REQUIRED MM-HMM .

AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE STEPS NOW BECAUSE THEY BECAME AWARE.

UM, I'M LEANING IN SUPPORTING THIS, UM, FOR THEM.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT FOR THE HOA AND, UM, AND, AND FOR THE, UM, THE OP THE OCCUPANTS THAT ARE STANDING HERE THAT WANT TO GET THIS APPROVED TONIGHT.

ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD, UH, DETAILED, UH, STATEMENT OF YOUR POSITION.

UH, IT'S APPRECIATED.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS? I DO.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

I KNOW IT'S, I'M SORRY.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, UM, DECISION.

AND I CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, SEEING IT FROM A HOMEOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE DEMAND FOR THIS, THAT THESE HOMES ARE, YOU KNOW, POPPING UP ALL OVER GRAND PRAIRIE.

I MEAN, WE, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT, BECAUSE THERE'S A DEMAND FOR IT.

AND IT'S HARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING UP WITH EVERYTHING ANGELA SAID ABOUT THEM AS FAR AS THEM DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND THEN HOPEFULLY PUTTING IN SECURITY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOMEOWNERS THAT WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS AND WOULD LIKE TO RETIRE.

AND THEN YOU FIND OUT THERE'S A FULL FLEDGED BUSINESS RUNNING NEXT DOOR.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD.

SO I'M NOT SAYING WHETHER I, WHICH WAY I GO BUT IT, I KNOW I HAVE TO HURRY UP AND MAKE A DECISION.

BUT , IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I'VE HAD A RELATIVE LIVING IN ONE, BUT IN ANOTHER CITY IN SUGAR LAND.

AND THEN I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THOSE NEIGHBORS KNEW THEY WERE THERE, BUT I MEAN, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND THEY SET IT UP VERY NICELY.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

THAT'S

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SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S AN HONEST ANSWER.

ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ERCO? YEAH.

UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THIS IS IN ESSENCE A A GROUP HOME.

AND JUST BE COMPLETELY HONEST, NOBODY GETS EXCITED WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S A GROUP HOME COMING TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE OUGHT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS A UNDERLYING, UNSPOKEN, UNCOMFORTABLE, UH, FACT OF THIS SITUATION.

NOBODY GETS EXCITED WHEN THERE SHARE A GROUP HOME IS COMING IN ON MY STREET.

HELPING YOU BY NOT TELLING YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

IF YOU DO, I, I YOU'RE LIKE A MOTHER THERESA.

BUT I, UH, I, UH, I DON'T THINK SO.

ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I STILL DON'T KNOW IF I'M OPEN TO MY COLLEAGUES CONVINCE ME ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT THE APPLICANT, UH, I REALLY, I WAS LEANING TOWARDS SUPPORTING, BUT THEN THEY STARTED REFERENCING AS WE'RE LEARNING, AS WE'RE GOING AND DOING ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, THEY TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

I WAS EXPECTING A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENCE THAT THIS IS NOT A LEARN AS YOU GO EFFORT.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EASY VOTE.

I'M EVEN THINKING ABOUT ABSTAINING.

BUT, UM, 'CAUSE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS OF EACH OF EACH WAY.

AND I THINK ALSO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY DISINGENUOUS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR IS, BUT IT'S ONE THING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE OPEN AND OBVIOUS, UH, PROBLEMS THAT THIS HOME PRESENTS FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN TO ALSO SAY THEY SNUCK IT IN.

I NEVER KNEW THEY WERE THERE.

IF IT'S AN OP, IF, IF IT'S OPEN AND OBVIOUS PROBLEMS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE ALL THOSE PROBLEMS ARE TELLING YOU THAT.

BUT THERE'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE SAYING WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE THERE.

THAT KIND OF UNDERCUTS THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN MY OPINION.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, NOBODY SAYS, I WANT A GROUP HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, KIND OF FEEL THE SAME WAY.

AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE APPLICANT JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE, THE LACK OF, UH, ANY VIOLATIONS.

AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, THEY COULD HAVE JUST NOT GOTTEN COMPLIANCE OR GOT REGISTERED, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE CARE OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THERE, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB BASED ON WHAT THE LETTER THAT STATED THAT.

AND, UH, SO ALTHOUGH TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER DECO, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO HAVE ONE, UH, ONE OF THOSE HOMES RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

UH, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS NEED, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ELDERLY TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND, UM, THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE, THERE'S, THERE'S LIMITED SPACE FOR, FOR THE ELDERLY.

UH, I'LL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS MY PARENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM BEING TAKEN CARE OF, YOU KNOW.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, I AM LEANING TOWARDS THE APPLICANT AND, UH, AND SUPPORTING THAT OUT THERE, LOOKING TO GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CITY AND STATE AS WELL THERE.

SO THOSE ARE MY, MY VIEWS, WELL, THIS IS MY DISTRICT.

IT PUTS ME IN A VERY DIFFICULT SPOT.

VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I ALSO HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REALITY IS THE, THE LEGISLATURE HAS, UH, TURNED THINGS AROUND ON US.

THERE'S, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN THERE FOR OVER A YEAR, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ANY PROBLEM.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY SHOULD HAVE COME TO YOU.

AND I THINK WHOEVER IN GOOD FAITH, THE PERSON THAT SOLD YOU THE HOUSE DID NOT GIVE IT TO YOU IN GOOD FAITH.

'CAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE, THEY SHOULD HAVE TALKED THROUGH THAT TITLE POLICY ABOUT THE CCRS AND ALL OF THAT.

I JUST THINK THERE'S, THERE'S TROUBLE ON BOTH ON, THERE'S TROUBLE WITH THAT, BUT THE MILK IS ALREADY SPILLED.

NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

UNFORTUNATELY.

I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAN TOWARD, I, I KEEP CHANGING MY MIND, BUT I THINK IN PRINCIPLE, I DO NOT WANNA APPROVE IT BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK IT'S, I DO NOT THINK IT'S FAIR THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SLIDE IN THERE FOR A YEAR AND, AND THEN NOT BE IN INCOME.

ANY KIND OF COMPLIANCE.

AND ONLY BY THE CITY COMING OUT.

IF YOU ARE CITY, IF YOU, YOU'RE WORKING IN A HEALTHCARE PROFESSION, THERE'S CERTAIN RULES AND REGULATIONS YOU HAVE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S POLICY IN PLACE AND NONE OF THE POLICIES.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY, YOU'RE JUST, JUST LEARNING.

TO ME, THAT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK.

SO WHOEVER'S ADVISING YOU OR ARE GONNA BE YOUR MENTOR IS NOT

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IF YOU'RE GONNA BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND I, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PROBABLY DENY, AND YOU GUYS CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT IN PRINCIPLE, I JUST, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR WHAT IS, AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND, AND, AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND MAYBE THE CITY WILL SEE IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

BUT IT'S JUST, UM, THE, THE TAXPAYERS US, WE GET THE SHAFT ALL THE TIME.

BECAUSE IF THE LAWS CHANGE, YES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE OVER A YEAR, THERE'S GOTTA BE, I'M PRETTY SURE EVERY, UH, DISCIPLINE HAS LEGISLATION AND THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, YOUR COMPLIANCE, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE LAW.

CHANGING IN 2023 IS MY CONCERN.

SO UNFORTUNATELY YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ANY WAY YOU LIKE AND I'M OKAY WITH IT.

FOR THE SAKE OF OF DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.

IN MY OPINION, I'M GOING TO DENY ITEM FIVE SUP 25 12 0 0 4 6.

UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT THERE COMES A TIME WHEN WE HAVE TO, TO, TO TAKE A STAND AND I'M JUST TAKING A STAND ON THIS ONE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME CHAIR.

I THINK MS. SMITH, IS THAT A MOTION? I'M SORRY.

I'M MAKING A MOTION TO DENY.

AND ARE YOU CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, I AM.

I'M SO SORRY.

I WAS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKING A MOTION TO DENY ITEM FIVE SUP 25 12 0 0 4 6.

'CAUSE IT IS NOT, THERE ARE THREE MAJOR, UM, THINGS THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE HERE.

UM, I FORGOT WHAT SCREEN IT'S ON, BUT THAT'S JUST MY, MY MOTION.

SO, UM, CAN I GET A SECOND OR NOT? OR WE DON'T, IF I DON'T GET A SECOND, THEN SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE A MOTION.

IS THAT HOW IT GOES? YEAH.

UM, YOU CALL FOR A SECOND OF THE MOTION.

IF THERE'S NO SECOND TO THE MOTION, THE MOTION DIES.

YOU CAN CALL.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY ITEM FIVE SUP 25 12 0 4 6 BY MYSELF, CHERYL SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VICTOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR TO DENY RAISE YOUR HAND.

1, 2, 3, 4.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL AGAINST ALL I'M ALL AGAINST.

ALL AGAINST.

I'M SORRY.

BOTH.

HOW MANY OPPOSED? 1, 2, 3.

THE MOTION PASSES TO DENY.

NO MA'AM.

UM, ALL MOTIONS NEED A VOTE OF FIVE TO PASS.

IT NEEDS A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD.

SO WHAT DO WE CALL THIS? SO, UH, THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF THE MOTION FAILS.

AND THEN WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WITH THAT? 'CAUSE I'M NOT, YOU CAN CALL FOR ANOTHER MOTION.

DO I HAVE TO ? CAN WE JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT? OR WE CAN'T? I THINK COUNSEL IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD.

IF YOU HAVE ONE AS A MAJORITY, YOU, YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IT HAS TO BE FIVE PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE HERE.

IT'S LIKE A SUPER MAJORITY NUMBER.

NO, IT'S MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ARE SERVING ON THE BOARD.

WELL, THE MAJORITY IS FOUR.

IT'S, IT'S NO MAJORITY WHO ARE PRESENT ARE FOUR.

MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ARE SERVING IS FIVE.

BUT TO ME, I MEAN WE'RE, THIS IS JUST AN HONEST VOTE AND TO ME IT IT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS AND THEN THEY CAN BRING IT BACK.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.

THIS IS NOT AN EASY CASE.

IT'S NOT EASY EITHER WAY.

IT'S NOT EASY.

IT'S NOT FAIR.

THIS IS HOW WE FEEL.

IT IS NOT A, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

I THINK THAT THE ISSUE WE'RE FACING HERE IS LEGAL VERSUS WHAT'S MORAL.

RIGHT, EXACTLY.

AND THIS NECESSARILY THE SAME THING.

AND IN EITHER CASE, WHATEVER WE DECIDE HERE, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION TO ME, YOU KNOW, TO ME.

WHICH IS FINE, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW WE FEEL.

WE ARE HERE AS LAY PEOPLE.

WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE, WE ARE SITTING IN THE SEATS OF, OF OF ACTUAL, WE'RE RESIDENTS.

WE'RE TAXPAYERS TOO.

AND THIS IS HOW WE FEEL.

SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE TO DO ANOTHER MOTION BEST JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK OUT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

MA, MADAM CHAIR.

SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING THEM TO TABLE THIS AND GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY YES.

TO GO TALK TO THE HOMEOWNERS? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING RIGHT NOW WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS IN THIS INSTANCE.

UM, MY EXPERIENCE, YOU, YOU EITHER HAVE THIS, THE MAJORITY, OR IF THERE'S NO MAJORITY PER WHAT SHE'S SAYING, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE HAVE A TOTAL OF, UH, NINE

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MEMBERS.

SO IT HAS TO BE FIVE.

SO WITH THAT, IF WE DON'T MEET A, HAVE A DECISION THAT'S FIVE OR MORE, THAT DECISION IS ESSENTIALLY A DENIAL.

SO WE CAN'T FORWARD THAT ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

BUT SHE'S CONFIRMING THAT.

I, I THINK TO ME, UH, JUST TO BE HONEST, WE'RE ALL VERY HONEST AND WE HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE, THE, UH, APPLICANT.

WE HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE HOMEOWNER AND IT'S ALL REAL.

THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW TERRITORY THAT WE'RE ALL WALKING THROUGH AND IT'S, WE NEED TO TELL THE TRUTH AND LET, LET IT LET AND, AND WORK IT OUT SOMEHOW.

RASH, RASHAD, I, HEY, THIS IS MORE PARLIAMENTARIAN I GUESS, BUT IF NOBODY MADE A MOTION, DOESN'T IT DENY IT'S THE SAME THING, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M, THAT'S CONFIRMING WHAT OUR UDC SAYS.

IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A MOMENT, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO I'M, I SEE IT THE SAME WAY.

WE'RE JUST CONFIRMING AND THEN THEIR CONSCIOUS, THE CITY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO.

I ALSO HAD CONVER, I ALSO HAD CONVERSATION WITH MY CITY COUNCILMAN AS WELL WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE.

SO, AND HE HAD A LOT OF CALLS AND A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST A, THIS IS WHAT I THINK THIS IS BASED ON COMMUNITY AND THE CALLS THAT HE'S RECEIVED.

SO ARE UDC IS SILENT AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT OF A MOTION FOR DENIAL FAILING.

THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

IT DID NOT, IT GOT SECONDED, BUT IT DID NOT PASS.

'CAUSE IT DID NOT GET THE MAJORITY OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS SITTING, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FIVE.

SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IN THIS CASE, AND, AND IS THAT IT GO FORWARD, UM, YOU AREN'T REQUIRED TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION.

I WOULD URGE YOU TO, UM, THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BOARD BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY AND FROM STAFF TODAY.

UM, COUNSEL IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

'CAUSE I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE'RE BEING HONEST AND WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN WEIGH BECAUSE THESE ARE, THESE ARE STEPS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.

'CAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER CASE SIMILAR TO THIS A WHILE BACK.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALL OF THESE EXCEPTIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T AWARE OF.

SO SORRY, THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.

THAT BEING SAID, UH, JULIA, WE DONE, CAN WE, DO I HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT BEING THE LAST CASE AT 7:52 PM THE UH, MEETING IS ADJOURNED.