[CALL TO ORDER]
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EVENING.CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER TONIGHT.
OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR BACKUP PREACHER, MANAGING DIRECTOR WALTER HUMACK.
OUR PLEDGES WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JACQUELINE HEADON.
WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT OF BOWED HEADS AND HUMBLE HEARTS.
THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE GRACED US WITH BEING ABLE TO WITNESS ONTO YOUR CREATION.
GRATEFUL FOR THE GIFT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
BLESSED THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IT.
LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED PRESENCE TO GUIDE THE THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS OF THIS WONDERFUL COUNCIL.
GRANT, THESE LEADERS THE WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE COMPLEX ISSUES OF OUR TIME AND THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD FOR ALL.
MAY EVERY DECISION MADE HERE TONIGHT BE RIGHTEOUS IN YOUR SIGHT.
AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS GREAT CITY, WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND CITY STAFF WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO MAKE THIS PLACE TRULY GRAND.
LORD, WE ASK THIS ALL IN YOUR SON'S NAME.
THE TEXAS FLAGS THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TWO REPUBLIC FOR RICH FANS OF ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
INVIS WITH 13, JUSTICE ON ONE TEXAS FLAG OF P CITY, TEXAS.
FAITH UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE.
[4. State Representatives Jessica González and Julie E. Johnson’s Recognition of Grand Prairie United Charities]
VNA, CAN YOU COME AND INTRODUCE THE REPRESENTATIVES WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING, UH, CONGRESSWOMAN JULIE JOHNSON'S OFFICE AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE JESSICA GONZALEZ'S OFFICE.AND ONCE SHE DOES THAT AND THEY COME FORWARD, I'D LIKE, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, BILL SCAR, THE DIRECTOR, AND ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TO COME FORWARD WITH THEM.
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE FROM CONGRESSWOMAN JULIE JOHNSON'S OFFICE, CHRISTIAN DIAZ, AND FROM STATE REPRESENTATIVE JESSICA GONZALEZ'S OFFICE, WE HAVE JOSE RICO.
THAT'S NO STARS, RIGHT? COME ON DOWN.
SO MY NAME IS JOSE RICO, AND OH, I AM WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVE JESSICA GONZALEZ'S OFFICE.
I, OR WE ARE PROUD TO PRESENT THE STATE RESOLUTION FOR GRAND PRAIRIE UNITED CHARITIES, WHO HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND TO EVERYBODY THAT RESIDES IN IT.
AND TELL JESSICA STATE REPRESENTATIVE GONZALEZ, WE APPRECIATE HER SERVICE TO US, AND AS A COMMUNITY, SHE'S ALWAYS WILLING TO TAKE ANY OF OUR CALLS.
SHE KNOWS WHAT BILL SHE VOTED AGAINST AND WAS ONE OF OUR FEW REPRESENTATIVES THAT VOTED AGAINST IT.
YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY THANK YOU.
UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN DIAZ.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF CONGRESSWOMAN JULIE JOHNSON, UH, TX 32.
UH, AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS CERTIFICATE OF SPECIAL CONGRESSIONAL RECOGNITION, UH, TO OUR FRIENDS AT GRAND PRAIRIE UNITED CHARITIES.
UH, WE ARE VERY INSPIRED BY THE WORK THAT THEY DO, AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL, AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE, UH, WHAT THEY DO IN THE NEXT YEAR.
BILL PETTY, WOULD Y'ALL ACCEPT IT AND GO AHEAD AND TURN AROUND AND GET SOME PICTURES TAKEN? WE WOULD COME ON DOWN THERE NEXT TO 'EM, GET SOME PICTURES TAKEN.
[5. Vietnam Veterans of America’s Recognition of Mayor Ron Jensen]
NEXT, VIETNAM, VETERANS OF AMERICA.RAY, YOU WANNA BRING YOUR GROUP DOWN? ALL OF YOU.
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MAYOR.I'M, UH, RAY, JEAN BUSH, AND I'M A, A MEMBER OF THE, UH, VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA, CHAPTER 10 13 HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
WE'VE BEEN ON THE SCENE IN GRAND PRAIRIE SINCE 2008.
AND, UH, SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WE HAVE ABOUT, UH, 36, 35 DIFFERENT CHAPTERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UH, TWICE A YEAR THEY MEET AT A STATE CONVENTION, AND AT THAT STATE CONVENTION, UH, WE HAVE NOMINATIONS FOR DIFFERENT AWARDS.
AND, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WELL, SOME OF THESE AWARDS ARE GIVEN OUT TO MEMBERS, VIETNAM VETERANS, BUT OTHER AWARDS LIKE EDUCATORS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT VETERANS, THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOMINATED AS WELL.
LAST YEAR, YOUR NAME WAS NOMINATED BY OUR TREASURER, RUSH BOGUS RUSH.
AND, UH, YOU WERE, YOU WERE NOMINATED FOR LEGISLATURE OF THE YEAR AT THE TEXAS, AT THE TEXAS STATE COUNCIL LEVEL OF VIETNAM VETERANS.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, UH, GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS.
BUT YOU DID GET A NICE CERTIFICATE, AND I'D LIKE TO READ THAT CERTIFICATE, A RUNNER UP CERTIFICATE.
BUT HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU OUGHT TO THINK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF ME TO NOMINATE ME IS ENOUGH FOR ME.
WELL, IT'S, UH, I TELL YOU THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN HONOR AND IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE IN A CITY THAT HAS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNCIL AND YOURSELF AS MAYOR, UH, RON.
AND WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE CERTIFICATE READS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO MAYOR RON JENSEN, NOMINATED FOR VVH NOMINATED BY VVH CHAPTER 10 13 IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR EFFORTS AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE, WHICH HAVE BENEFITED VIETNAM VETERANS.
AND THAT'S SIGNED BY OUR STATE PRESIDENT OF MR. WILLIAMS STEP.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T LET YOU, I CAN'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITHOUT PRESENTING YOU A MUG FROM OUR CHAPTER.
THIS IS A GOOD COFFEE MUG HERE, MR. MAYOR
I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
WE LOVE OUR VETERANS AND ALSO SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL THAT VIETNAM VETERANS ARE FINALLY GETTING TO DO THEY DESERVE AFTER MANY YEARS OF AMEN.
AND I WANT TO ALSO SAY, THIS GROUP VOLUNTEERS AT EVERYTHING.
AND MANY TIMES THEY DON'T DRAW THE NICE AREA.
THEY'RE OUT IN THE HEAT KEEPING PEOPLE FROM PARKING IN THE SUMMIT PARKING LOT DURING BIG EVENTS,
BUT WHATEVER IT IS, Y'ALL ALWAYS ANSWER THE CALL AND SHOW UP.
[6. Police Department Crime Rate]
CHIEF.RYAN'S GONNA HELP ME WITH THE POWERPOINT REAL QUICKLY, BUT GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FROM A FELLOW MARINE.
OKAY, UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL BOSS, MADAM.
UM, I WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME REAL QUICKLY TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CRIME RATE IN GRAND PRAIRIE TO, TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE FBI HAS BEEN BEEN COLLECTING CRIME DATA SINCE 1930.
AND THE WAY THEY CHARACTERIZE THAT IS PART ONE CRIMES.
AND IF YOU LOOK UP THERE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A VARIETY OF CRIMES THERE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S VIOLENT AND PROPERTY CRIMES, AND THEY PUT A TICK MARK EACH, EACH TIME THAT, UH, A MUNICIPALITY HAS ONE.
SO, UH, JUST AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, IN 1974, UH, THE CITY POPULATION WAS AROUND 50,000 OR SO, AND THE CRIME INDEX IN GRAND PRAIRIE WAS A TOTAL OF THIRTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY SIX CRIMES.
OR GIVE OR TAKE, I'M PLEASED TO TELL YOU THAT AS I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU, UH, THE CRIME IN GRAND PRAIRIE IS LOWER THAN IT WAS 51 YEARS AGO.
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IT'S PER IT IS LINE BY LINE.WE ARE HAVE FEWER PART ONE GOODNESS.
WE, THIS 2025, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 3,200 CRIMES, GIVE OR TAKE.
SO NOT ONLY WERE WE LOWER THAN 1974, WE'RE LOWER BY ABOUT 14%.
SO, UH, VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE OFFICERS.
WE MADE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GAINS IN A VARIETY OF AREAS, AND WE'VE GOT A VERY TALENTED, TENACIOUS GROUP OF POLICE OFFICERS.
UH, HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THIS? WELL, THROUGH, THROUGH A VARIETY OF REASONS.
YOU'VE ALL HEARD ME TALK ABOUT MANY TIMES OUR, UH, AGGRESSIVE ADHERENCE TO OUR EVIDENCE-BASED CRIME FIGHTING STRATEGY.
THAT'S SOMETHING I INSISTED ON IN 2020.
BUT I, WHEN I BECAME YOUR CHIEF AND HAS HAD SOME FANTASTIC RESULTS, UH, UNDER CHIEF SALIVA'S LEADERSHIP, WE DEPLOYED THE FOCUS INITIATIVE LAST YEAR.
THAT'S REALLY BEEN HELPFUL IN DRIVING DOWN OUR, OUR CRIME EVEN FURTHER.
OUR TECHNOLOGY, OUR NUISANCE REDUCTIONS, EVEN OUR, OUR DETECTIVES, WE HAVE A CASE CLEARANCE RATE THAT'S ALMOST THREE TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
SO WE ARE REALLY, UH, BANGING ON ALL CYLINDERS.
AND I AM VERY, VERY, VERY PROUD OF THESE COPS.
JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, I CAN'T HELP MYSELF.
UH, IN 1974, OUR POPULATION WAS 55,000.
THAT'S WHEN TRADERS VILLAGE OPENED UP.
HUH? THE AVERAGE GRAND PRAIRIE HOME PRICE WAS ABOUT 35 GRAND.
UH, CHIEF KEN BURR WAS THE CHIEF BACK THEN WITH A WHOPPING 54 COPS.
PRESIDENT NIXON RESIGNED, BAD BA BAD, BAD LEROY BROWN AND TY YELLOW RIBBON AROUND THE OLD OAK TREE WERE TOP OF THE CHARTS.
MICROWAVE OVENS WERE POPPING UP IN HOMES.
THE FIRST CELL PHONE WAS INVENTED, THE MOTOROLA DAC 8,000, AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAVE CRIME RATE AS LOW AS IT IS TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OFFICER FOR Y'ALL.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
WE'VE GOT ONE SPEAKER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.YES, CITIZENS MAY SIGN UP TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
ALL SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT CARD PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.
FOR ITEMS LISTED ON CONSENT AGENDA, EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR ALL ITEMS. CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES ON ANY ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, OR DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.
APPLICANTS FOR ZONING MATTERS MAY SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
ALL SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE THE RULES OF DECORUM AND EXHIBIT ORDERLY AND RESPECTFUL CONDUCT DURING THE MEETING.
SPEAKER SHALL DIRECT THEIR REMARKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT THE AUDIENCE.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER 12, HAROLD WALLACE.
I WANNA KNOW WHO ON OUR CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY WHEN SWAFFORD SAT THERE, WHEN GREG GEISER WAS THERE.
TOMMY ELLISON WORKING WITH ALL THESE GUYS.
WHAT, JUST, WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR INVESTMENT POLICY? HOW MUCH IS IT IS TIED UP IN, IN WHAT? IN WALL STREET RIGHT NOW, PLEASE.
LOUIS BREATH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
SO WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
UH, JUST, UM, WHO ARE YOU? NO, WHO, WHO'S ON THIS COMMITTEE? OH, ON THE COMMITTEE.
UH, SO OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE, IT'S ME, UH, SUSAN SANDERS, OUR DIRECTOR.
AND, UM, JACQUELINE HARTHORNE.
SHE'S ALSO OUR TREASURY MANAGER.
I JUST, AND THEN IS REVIEWED BY THE F AND G COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTS OF WHO THE F AND J COMMITTEE IS.
MS. BESSIE, UM, MR. KURT JOHNSON AND JUNIOR ZANU.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, THE VOLATILITY OF THE MARKET IS, DOES THIS INCLUDE OUR, OUR BONDS, OUR AAA BONDS, OUR BOND RATING, WHAT ALL MOSTLY OF OUR MONEY IS IN SECURITIES.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE IT IN POOLS, AND WE HAVE SOME CDS.
SO THEY'RE LOCKED UP WITH THE GOOD RATES.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME CDS WITH WHICH FINANCIAL INSTITUTION? IT'S MOSTLY, UH, BNY.
WHO ARE THEY? BANK OF NEW YORK.
CAN WE GET IT ON THE RECORD? WE HAVE BITCOIN.
HEY, JUST OPPOSED DON'T HAVE BITCOIN.
DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE RISK
WE HAVE NO BITCOIN, NO CRYPTO.
THAT'S, THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YES, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN INVESTMENT OUT THERE.
WELL, ROSS PEROT WOULD JUST STICK TO CDS.
PUTTING CDS, ARE THEY JUMBO CDS OR WHAT TYPE? OH MY GOODNESS.
THEY'RE FROM 12 TO 24 MONTH CDS.
THAT'S JUST TO KNOW WHAT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT IS LOCKING THEIR MONEY IN.
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OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES? NO, NOT FIDELITY.SO OUR BOND RATING, EVERYTHING, OUR BOND RATING IS WHAT NOW? I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE BOND RATING IS, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS HAD ANYTHING.
SO IF I CAN SPEAK TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE MADE, WE, BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, THE POLICY, THE INVESTMENT POLICY HAS VERY STRICT STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE TYPE OF INVESTMENTS WE CAN MAKE.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE PROTECTED AND THEY'RE ALL AT AAA.
SO THEY HAVE TO BE ALL AAA RATED FOR THE INVESTMENTS.
COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SEVEN TO 13.
PULL ITEM 14 TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVE.
WE'RE MOVING ITEM 14 DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.HAROLD, WILL, HAROLD WILLIS, 5 3 8 WIN.
THAT WAS, UH, NICE TO GIVE THAT AWARD TO THE VIETNAM VETERANS, BUT LET'S GET THIS ON PUBLIC RECORD.
UM, RON JENSEN DID NOT GO TO VIETNAM.
ALL THESE OTHER WHITE REPUBLICAN CHICKEN HAWK DRAFT DODGERS OUT HERE STAYED OUT OF VIETNAM IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES.
MY DRAFT NUMBER WAS 0 7 2 1 A FOR IMMEDIATE INDUCTION.
SO I WAS PLANNING TO GO TO VIETNAM, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT THOSE WHO DID GO TO VIETNAM NEED TO GET THIS ON THE RECORD.
TRUMP DID NOT GO TO VIETNAM, NOR DID GEORGIA W BUSH.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO GET INTO THE MILITARY TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY IN SOME CAPACITY.
SO I'M GONNA GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
THURSDAY NIGHT HISTORY WAS MADE IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRIX, TEXAS AT THE GRAND PRIX SCHOOL BOARD.
THE TURNOUT THERE WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY.
YOU COULDN'T GET INTO THE BUILDING.
IT WAS ALMOST JUST LIKE THE GOOD DAYS OF THE OLD BUILDING ATTENTION.
ALL KMART SHOPPERS, OUR 15 MINUTE BLUE LIGHT SHOPPERS SPECIAL IS TO SAVE PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
THAT TURNOUT WAS LIKE I SAY, RECORD BREAKING BECAUSE THEY OLD SAYING, MEXICANS DON'T VOTE.
THAT CROWD WAS 90% HARDWORKING TAX PAYING MEXICAN AMERICANS WHO WANT TO SAVE THEIR GRAND PRAIRIE SCHOOLS FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
WHEN I MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE CLOSE REPUBLICAN CHARTER SCHOOLS, NOT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, KIND OF GOT A LITTLE FEW CLAPS ON THAT.
I ALSO BROUGHT UP TO THE BOARD THIS MONEY THAT WAS CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
WHERE DID THAT GO? NOW THAT COLE HUMPHREYS IS REPRESENTING THAT, AND COLE VOTED TO SERVE THAT ARIANOS CONTRACT, THE BOARD IS COVERING UP OF ARIANO.
THE BILLIONS ABOUT, WHAT'S THAT? 16 MILLION.
18 MILLION FROM MCKENZIE SCOTT, WHERE'S THAT MONEY? ALL THE LAND AT PARK HILL PARK, EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THIS SCHOOL BOARD, OUR GRAND PRAIRIE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ALL THE CREDIBILITY OF THE SALINA SCHOOL BOARD.
AND THAT'S NOT A COMPLIMENT WHAT'S GOING ON IN SALINA RIGHT NOW.
COVERING THAT UP OF THE SEXUAL ISSUES WITH THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH UP THERE.
IN A WAY, IT'S KIND OF IRONIC BECAUSE WEARING THEIR CROSSES, TALKING ABOUT GOD, FAITH, FAMILY, AND FOOTBALL, AND THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH COVERING EVERYTHING UP IN ALL THE LAWSUITS UP THERE.
UM, MAYOR, YOU MISSED YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
I WAS ON CHANNEL FOUR AT 10 O'CLOCK THURSDAY NIGHT, THEY PUT ME ON TV.
SO THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE BEEN ON CHANNEL FOUR.
I'VE DONE TWO WORK WORKS WITH BECKY OLIVER.
I ASK THAT NEXT TUESDAY OR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD, YOU CANCEL THIS MEETING AND YOU BE AT CRO ELEMENTARY.
THERE'S GONNA BE FEBRUARY 2ND AT TRAVIS, FEBRUARY 3RD AT CROCKETT, AND THEN AT DICKINSON.
SOME OF YOU ARE UP FOR REELECTION.
BE THERE TO SAVE GRAND PRAIRIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
ADDRESS 2319 DALWORTH, APARTMENT ONE 19, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 0.
HOMELESSNESS IS A MULTI-BILLION
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DOLLAR INDUSTRY ANNUALLY, AND I ALLEGE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT THERE IN THEM ELEMENTS, BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING OF INJUSTICES.PEOPLE MAKE MONEY OFF THE POOR IN HOMELESS WHILE CALLING THEM LEECHES.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT DOCUMENT ONE, AND I WANT YOU TO KEEP THIS IN MIND.
DF DASH NINE TWO DASH 1 1 8 5 0 A FAMILY MATTER IN THE 255TH COURT OF DALLAS COUNTY.
I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT DOCKET SHEET TWO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OFFICER CORPORAL NER WHO DID THE PREMEDITATED RETALIATORY ARREST IN DALLAS.
THAT'S DPD REPORT NUMBER 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 8.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ONE DF 9 2 1 1 8 5 0.
WHEN THEY CAME UP IN THERE SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2025 AT NEW ROCK MEADOW GREEN APARTMENTS, NO MONIES WAS OWED, NO RENT, NO LEASE VIOLATIONS.
IT WAS A COVERT OVER CLANDESTINE OPERATION TO GET DOCUMENTS FROM THIS DIVORCE CASE WITH MY MOM AND MY DAD.
AND IT IS A QUADRO MISSING FROM THIS FAMILY MATTER, MEANING HUNDREDS OF PAGES IS MISSING FROM THIS DIVORCE CASE.
AND FATHOM, EVERYBODY IN HERE HAVING AN ESTATE BEFORE YOU PASS IN YOUR NAME, YOUR DATE OF BIRTH, YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, YOUR MONEY'S BEING STOLEN AND BEING SET UP TO BE STOLEN BEFORE YOU PASS AWAY.
MAYOR JENSEN, MR. HILLS KNOW ABOUT THE HABITAT HOME.
AND WHAT IS BEING EXPOSED IN UNCOVERED IS RACKETS WITHIN RACKETS WITHIN RACKETS OVER THERE AT NEW ROCK MEADOW GREEN.
NO MONIES WAS OWED LIKE IT WAS.
NO MONIES OWED ON THE HABITAT HOME.
NOW WE GO TO COURT IN DALLAS COUNTY.
WE HA WE GO TO COURT IN DALLAS COUNTY NEXT WEEK.
MASTERCARD HAS ASSURED ME ON THE PAYMENT MADE TO THROUGH TEXAS TRUST, NO RECORDS WILL BE CHANGED TO PROTECT THE ELITE NOW IN THIS COVERUP WITH THIS IN, IN THIS COVERUP, GRAND PRAIRIE IS INVOLVED.
IT IS A COVERUP DOWN AT GRAND PRAIRIE POLICE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON OUT OF TOTAL FRUSTRATION.
MY PROPERTY ALONE WITH 504 OTHER CITIZENS PROPERTIES ARE UP FOR GRABS THROUGH, UH, MINERAL INTEREST POOLING AGREEMENT.
AND ALSO THE CITY OF, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE IS PART OF THIS GROUP.
UH, THE OIL COMPANY THAT IS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING, UH, OBTAINING THE LEASES IS TEP, WHICH IS THE SIXTH LARGEST PRODUCING OIL COMPANY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UH, THEY HAVE A RAILROAD COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY THE 10TH TO DISCUSS, UH, THESE OIL WELLS THAT WILL BE DRILLED, UH, THROUGH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
UM, I AM IN, UH, THE SECOND SET OF WELL, UH, A WELL THAT WILL BE DRILLED AND MY QUESTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH IS NOT, UH, TO BE, UM, CONSTRUED AS, UM, UM, AN ANGER ISSUE OR ANYTHING.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE, UH, SURFACE OWNER'S PROPERTY.
AND MY QUESTION DEALS WITH THIS.
IF YOU HAVE, UH, IF YOU PLAN TO ATTEND THE FEBRUARY 10TH RAILROAD COMMISSIONER, HAVE SOMEONE ATTEND, I PLAN TO BE THERE TO, UH, VOICE MY COMPLAINT REGARDING THEM TAKING MY, THE OFFICIAL TAKING OF MY PROPERTY LEGALLY.
UM, I WANNA KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IN THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE ARE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
ONE, UH, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHEN, WHEN THE FOUR DIFFERENT WELLS WILL BE DRILLED, THE SOURCE AND THE RECEIVING LINE, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THE SURFACE PROPERTY WILL BE USED, THE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WILL BE CREATED? DO YOU HAVE A NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR WHO MAY BE, UH, SECURED TO PERFORM TO
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PERFORM SEISMIC GRAPH, UH, OPERATIONS? AND IF SO, DO YOU HAVE THEIR NAME ADDRESSES AND, AND CAN CONTACT THEM AT ALL TIMES? DO YOU HAVE A TIME THAT IDENTIFIES WHEN THEY MIGHT ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS? AND IF SO, UM, YOU HAVE THAT READILY AVAILABLE IF YOU NEED IT.DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHEN, UH, THE SEISMIC OPERATIONS WILL BE BEGUN AND WHEN THEY WILL BE COMPLETED? AND IF THEY WILL BE DONE SO IN A SAFE MANNER? UM, IF THEY INTEND TO USE SHOT HOLES, AT WHAT DEPTH WILL THEY DO THE HOLES AND ALSO, UH, THE SIZE OF THE CHARGE AND THE TIME OF DAY THAT THEY PLAN TO INITIATE ALL THIS.
IF THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, I KNOW.
NOREEN, CAN YOU GIVE HER YOUR INFORMATION AND YOU GET WITH CINDY TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE? WE CAN GET ANSWERS.
THAT, UM, CONCLUDES OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[14. Rescind Resolution No. 5090-2020 and Approve Ordinance Repealing Section 13.5-1 of the City Code of Ordinances ]
I'LL GO BACK.UH, ITEM 14, MAYOR COUNSEL, ON YOUR AGENDA IS AN ITEM TO RESCIND RESOLUTION 5 0 9 0 DASH 2020 AND JANUARY OF 2025.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 1 4 1 5 1 WAS ISSUED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DIRECTING ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO ELIMINATE ANY PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, POLICIES, OR GUIDELINES BASED ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION PRINCIPLES.
UM, IN ORDER TO ALIGN THE ENTITIES PROGRAMS WITH THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL RISK OF LOSING FEDERAL FUNDING, THIS ITEM IS TO RESCIND THAT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED IN 2020 AND TO REPEAL SECTION 13.51, UH, COMMISSION ON ETHNIC, ETHNIC AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS IN THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THAT COMMISSION IS NO LONGER ACTIVE.
I BE, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, CLEMSON.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 14.
[16. Resolution accepting the proposed project listing for a 2026 General Obligation (GO) Bond Program to serve as a planning tool for a potential bond election and bond sale]
ITEM 16, TAL.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TAL VO MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
ITEM 16, ASK COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED 2026 GEO BOND PROJECT LISTING AS A PLANNING TOOL FOR LONG-TERM CAPITAL PLANNING AND FOR FUTURE VOTER CONSIDERATION.
THIS ACTION ALLOWS STAFF TO WORK WITH BOND COUNCIL ON THE ELECTION ORDER IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, WHICH WILL RETURN TO COUNCIL FOR FUTURE ACTION ON FEBRUARY 3RD.
AND WITH THE BOND ELECTION SCHEDULED FOR MAY 2ND, THE PROPOSED LISTING TOTALS $327 MILLION.
COUNSEL HAD ASKED STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A CLEAR WAY TO DESCRIBE THE COMMUNITY FACILITY FOR THE BALLOT LANGUAGE STAFF RECOMMENDS A COMMUNITY MULTIPURPOSE CENTER BECAUSE IT BEST FITS THE FUNCTIONAL DESCRIPTION AND GIVES THE CITY THE MOST FLEXIBILITY.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS WORDING IS ONLY FOR THE BALLOT IN ORDINANCE LANGUAGE.
IT'S NOT THE FINAL NAME FOR THE FACILITY.
SO THE FINAL BRANDING CAN STILL BE DECIDED LATER AFTER THE PROGRAMMING AND THE DESIGN ARE REFINED.
THIS RESOLUTION IS ONLY A PLANNING TOOL.
IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT.
IT DOES NOT APPROVE A TAX RATE, ANY ELECTION PROPOSITION AND ANY FUTURE BOND SALE WILL RETURN TO COUNCIL.
AND THEN ALSO VOTERS ULTIMATELY DECIDE THROUGH A BOND ELECTION FOR, UM, THE GO BOND.
THERE'S NO FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION.
TONIGHT, THE REQUESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING THE PROJECT LISTING AS A PLANNING TOOL.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TAL FIRST, THOUGH? WE'VE HAD THIS A FEW TIMES.
T WE STILL MAY CALL YOU BACK UP.
'CAUSE WHOEVER THE SPEAKER IS, MAY WANT TO QUESTION.
I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ELECTION.
HOWEVER, 327 MILLION IS, IS THAT THE HIGH END, LOW END, MIDDLE.
WHAT'S THE THREE TOWN? THAT IS FOR ALL THE PROPOSED PROJECTS.
THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THAT IS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ROADS AND SEWER.
AND IT IS, UH, 209 MILLION FOR STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
78.5 MILLION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
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FOR COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS.AND THOSE WILL BE SEPARATELY VOTED ON? YES SIR.
THREE DIFFERENT VOTES? YES SIR.
IN TERMS OF THIS 327 MILLION, I BELIEVE OUR LAST BOND, WELL, YOU HAD THE $75 MILLION COUPLE YEARS AGO.
BUT GOING BACK TO 2007, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL, WHAT WE VOTED ON IN 2007 AND THE JOINT ELECTION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD? I KNOW IT WAS, THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS LIKE 225 MILLION.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT OURS WAS.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST ONE FOR STREET THAT WE'VE EVER PUT ON IN SINCE THEN.
I JUST KNOW THE 2007 BOND ISSUE WAS THE ONE FOR RUTHIE JACKSON TO BUILD THE SUMMIT
THAT WASN'T A BOND ELECTION FOR RUTHIE JACKSON AND THE SUMMIT.
IT WAS AN EIGHTH CENT SALES TAX OUT OF A SALES TAX.
THIS WILL BE UNDERWRITTEN BY PROPERTY TAX AND GENERAL FUND.
WHAT I'M JUST WANTING TO KIND LET GET A HEAD START ON THIS.
A $327 MILLION TOTAL IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND A LOT OF VOTERS RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAX, EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON THAT WE SOUR THE VOTERS.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED IN 1984 IN THE ARLINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT.
YOU THOUGHT THAT WOULD PASS AND IT WOULDN'T.
THIS IS CRUCIAL THAT MAYBE WE'D LOOK AT MOVING FROM MAY 3RD DATE TO NOVEMBER WHEN WE HAVE MORE VOTERS THAT WE COULD REACH OUT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RECORD VOTER TURNOUT IN NOVEMBER TO GRAB THOSE AMOUNT OF VOTERS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE PEOPLE, YOU'RE GONNA CLOSE GRAND PRAIRIE SCHOOLS AND YOU WANT US TO VOTE FOR $327 MILLION OF BOND PACKAGES AND WE'RE CLOSING THREE GRAND PRIX SCHOOLS OR MORE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ON YOUR SIDE ON THIS BOND ISSUE ON MAY 3RD.
'CAUSE THERE'S CITY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES ON MAY 3RD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF NEGATIVE DETRACTORS.
SO I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT PLEASE, BECAUSE I WANT THE BOND ISSUE TO PASS.
BUT YOU'VE GOT SOME ISSUES OUT HERE.
JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BE PASSED BECAUSE YOU PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, PLEASE.
EL PASO, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL, THE GO BOND ELECTION FOR MAY 2ND.
UH, I AM FOR THE STREET, THE MONIES BEING SPENT IN THE BOND ELECTION FOR THE STREET.
THE UH, I NEED A CLARITY ON THE SAFETY PROJECT THAT'S ON THE BUN THAT'S BUILT IN THE PACKAGE AND THE PROFESSIONAL ART CENTER.
WILL THAT, WILL WE INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE EPIC THEATER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE? NO, THERE'S A NEW BUILDING.
SO WILL WE BE INVITING ARTHURS THAT DOES PLAYS? AND WILL WE, WILL THE CITIZENS BE ATTENDING? IS THAT THE NEED FOR THE CENTER? WELL, THAT I HOPE HE WOULD ATTEND.
WELL THAT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA SPEND FOR A STANDALONE BUILDING.
WE'RE BUILDING A LOT AND OUR CITY IS GROWING, BUT I STILL EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE NOT DOING OUR PART AS GOOD CHRISTIANS TAKING CARE OF THE HOMELESS.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 16.
[17. Public Hearing and Final Reading of an Ordinance amending various sections of Articles II and III of the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 26, “Utilities and Services” Relating to Fees for Water and Wastewater (Reviewed by the Finance and Government Committee on 08/05/2025 and City Council Budget Workshop on 08/14/2025)]
17.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL NOREEN HOUSEWRIGHT, UH, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITY SERVICES.
OKAY, SO THIS IS ITEM 17 IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READIN OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDED VARIOUS SECTIONS OF ARTICLES TWO AND THREE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 26.
UTILITIES AND SERVICES RELATED TO THE FEES OF WATER AND WASTEWATER.
A COST OF SERVICE STUDY HAS BEEN CONDUCTED AND DETERMINE THAT THE REQUIRED WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES NECESSARY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE FISCAL YEAR 25 STUDY IDENTIFIED THAT A RATE INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 BE 4.5%.
AN ADDITIONAL STUDY CONDUCTED BY A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT CONCURS WITH THE PREVIOUS STUDY RECOMMENDED 4.5% INCREASES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
THIS IS A 4.5% INCREASE ACROSS ALL RATE CATEGORIES.
THIS PLAN WILL BALANCE THE OPERATE IN AND CAPITAL BUDGETS.
AND THE PROPOSED RATE PLAN WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE
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ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2026.THIS IS A TABLE THAT SHOWS OUR CITY WITH BOTH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED RATES COMPARED TO 10 OTHER CITIES THAT ARE IN OUR SAME, UH, CONSIDERATION OF BY SIZE AND POPULATION.
AND WE USED AN 8,000 GALLON WATER USE TO SHOW THE COMPARISON 'CAUSE THAT'S THE AVERAGE WATER USE.
THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE RESIDENTIAL IMPACT FOR THE DIFFERENT, UH, USAGES CURRENT AND PROPOSED.
WE HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY IMPACT FOR THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED RATES AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IMPACT.
WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE RAISED THE RATES? LAST YEAR.
NO, SORRY, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS THE POINT I WAS GETTING LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE, THE LAST RATE INCREASE WAS IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
CORRECT? FOR THE RECORD, I GET DINGED MANY TIMES ON FACEBOOK BY PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE CITY KEEPS RAISING THEIR RATES MONTHLY.
FOLKS, WE HAVEN'T RAISED THE RATES SINCE OCTOBER OF 2024.
IF YOUR WATER BILL IS GOING UP BECAUSE YOU'RE USING MORE WATER, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
AND IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU'RE USING THAT MUCH WATER, NOREEN HAS A STAFF THAT CAN GO OVER IT WITH YOU.
BUT BEFORE I CALL YOU UP, I'M GONNA LET ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO THAT HASN'T SIGNED UP, COME FORWARD.
IF YOU HAVE NOT FILLED OUT A CARD, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
NOREEN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, PLEASE.
NOREEN, ON YOUR WATER BILL, YOU GET THE STORM WATER FEE FOR, UM, I KNOW THAT'S MANDATED WHAT? BY THE EPA OF CITIES OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WHAT ABOUT THE STORM WATER FEE IS, IT'S LIKE 1820 SOMETHING DOLLARS.
UM, IT IT BASED ON YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR HOUSE.
BUT THAT HAS, THAT'S STAYING THE SAME.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UM, INCREASED SINCE 2020.
SO THAT DOESN'T, UM, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT IMPACTED BY THIS, IT'S JUST A WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES.
AND SO ALL RESIDENTIAL HOMES BOTH LIKE MY HOME, LIKE 700 SQUARE FOOT.
AND WE DIDN'T INCREASE IT AND WE YEAH, IT'S THE SAME RATE.
WE WERE NOT INCREASING IT THIS YEAR.
THAT IS A FEDERAL MANDATE, ISN'T IT? NO, IT ISN'T.
WATER IS, UH, ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
SO IT FUNDS OUR STORM STORMWATER CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET.
SO YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE 'CAUSE YOU LOOK ON YOUR WATER BILL AND YOU SEE THAT.
IS THAT SO THAT'S CAPPED THAT, THAT IS, WE'RE WE'RE NOT RAISING THE RATES THIS YEAR.
IT'S NOT WELL, I MEAN CAPPED, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S NO RATE INCREASE.
THERE'S NO POINT FOR A FIVE IN RATE INCREASE FOR THAT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF A GENERAL COMMENT.
UM, BE IT, NOT ONLY THE WATER RATE'S GONNA GO UP, BUT THE TRASH RATES ARE GOING UP 7.5% TOO.
AND THAT MAY ALL HIT KINDA CLOSE TO THE SAME TIME OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT THEIR BILLS.
I PAY, MY WIFE PAYS OUR BILL ONLINE AND WE DON'T NOTICE IT UNTIL, OH, ONE DAY WE LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YEAH, OH LOOK, IT WENT UP.
AND BOTH OF THOSE WILL HIT AT THE SAME MAY MAYBE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT THERE MAY, WE MAY GET A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING, MY, MY TOTAL WATER BILL HAS GONE WAY UP AND THEY ACTUALLY BE TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE IT DID.
THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT HIT AT THE SAME TIME AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
WHEN WILL THE TRASH RATE GO UP? APRIL? I, I'M NOT SURE ON THE TRASH RATE.
I, WE APPROVED IT THE OTHER DAY IN FEBRUARY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE RIGHT, THERE'S GONNA BE A FOUR AND A HALF AND THEN THE SEVEN AND A HALF.
SO WATER BILLS, ACTUALLY THE TOTAL BILL WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING UP QUITE A BIT.
THAT GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S, UH, JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE WATER BILL ITSELF.
BUT EVERYTHING ALL PUT TOGETHER, IT'S THE SAME.
IT'S ON THAT BILL THAT YOU'RE GETTING THOUGH.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 17, THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
[18. ZON-25-10-0040 - Zoning Change – 1822 Armstead Ave. (City Council District 3). Zoning Change from Single Family-Four (SF-4) to Single Family-Six (SF-6) on 0.46 acres. Lots 1, 2, & 6A, Block 8, Mountain Lakeview Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four (SF-4) District, and addressed as 1822 Armstead Ave (On December 9, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 6-0)]
ITEM 18.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 1822 ARMSTEAD AVENUE.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY FOUR TO SINGLE FAMILY.
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SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED.UH, THIS, UH, REZONING IS TO CHANGE THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, THEY INTEND TO CONSTRUCT, UH, FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT THE LOCATION.
AND IF APPROVED, THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE SINGLE FAMILY.
SIX, UH, DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
UH, WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, ON DECEMBER 9TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.
UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS WELL.
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF SIX ZERO VOTES.
ARE WE HAVING ISSUES WITH P AND Z STAFF? I MEAN, I WON'T SAY ISSUES, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME ATTENDANCE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE FIXING MAY NOT SHOWING UP.
MY MY APPOINTEE GOT SICK IN DECEMBER.
WELL, YOU'RE RIGHT AND HADN'T COME BACK.
IF, IF THERE'S REASONABLE REASONS, BUT MY GOODNESS, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR I'M LOOKING AT THIS.
UH, SO IS THE, UH, DEVELOPER HERE? I DON'T, WELL DIDN'T SHOW UP, BUT IT'S OKAY.
WE MET, UH, THERE AT THE PROPERTY.
WE WALKED THE PROPERTY, THE DESIGN AND THE CONCEPT IS IT GONNA MATCH THE OTHER HOUSES AROUND IT? GOOD.
SO IT'S A MIRROR IMAGE OF WHAT THREE EMPTY LOTS HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I ENCOURAGED THEM TO LOOK FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
AND THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 18 Z ZERO ZON DASH 25 DASH 0 0 4 0 SECOND, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ITEM 18.
I HOPE THEY FIND SOME OTHER ONES.
[19. VCC-25-09-0003 - Fence Exception - Hill Street Screening Fence (City Council District 5). Exception to Required Fences in the Unified Development Code (UDC) to allow a wooden fence instead of the required masonry screening wall along the western and northern property lines of 300 and 306 Hill Street. The western and northern property lines of 306 Hill Street, a 0.69-acre tract, McKinney and Williams Abstract No. 1003, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas and the northern property line of 300 Hill Street, a 0.38-acre tract, McKinney and Williams Abstract No. 1003, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas and 306 Hill Street, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas (On December 9, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 6-0)]
19 VC 25 DASH OH NINE DASH OH OH OH THREE.ITEM 19 WAS CONTINUED FROM A PREVIOUS AGENDA.
THIS IS A FENCE EXCEPTION, UH, FOR HILL STREET.
UH, THREE HUNDRED AND THREE ZERO SIX.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A HORIZONTAL BOARD ON BOARD WOODEN FENCE INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED MASONRY SCREENING WALL.
UH, THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE FENCE IS SHOWN ON THE MAP IN BLUE.
UH, SECTION EIGHT POINT 10.6 OF THE UDC.
DOES GRANT CITY COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY, UH, TO GRANT THAT EXCEPTION? UM, THEY DO INCLUDE A MAINTENANCE, UH, PLAN FOR THEIR FENCE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED IMAGE ON DECEMBER 9TH.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
MAYOR PRO TEM SAVANNAH, WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO BUILD HERE? WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT'S THE PROJECT? UH, A PLANT NURSERY SLASH GARDEN CENTER.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, UH, THE APPLICANT'S HERE, BUT JUST IF YOU NEED THEM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UH, I GUESS THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO COME UP 'CAUSE I DO WANT TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS.
400 NORTH VE UM, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 1.
DO YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT KIND OF, UM, STOCK THEY WILL, WILL BE THERE? YEAH, SO MY, MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE TREES ON BALLS? UM, WE'LL HAVE SMALL TREES.
WE REALLY ONLY STOCK ORNAMENTAL TREES, YOU KNOW, RED BUDS, YW PONDS, UM, SMALL TREES.
UM, BECAUSE I WAS GOING, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TO COVER TO, TO BLOCK.
SO I DID MEET WITH AN ARBORIST YESTERDAY AND WE WERE PLANNED TO PLANT TREES, UM, JUST FOR SCREENING.
WE LOOKED OVER THE EXISTING VEGETATION.
THERE'S QUITE A LOT, BUT REALLY A LOT OF IT ISN'T SALVAGEABLE.
SO WE'RE PLANNING ON, UM, STARTING WITH, UH, LIVE OAKS AND THEN ONCE THOSE GET TALLER CHERRY LAURELS TO AS UNDERSTORY TREES TO PROVIDE MORE COVERAGE FOR PART OF THE SCREENING.
AND, UH, YOUR FENCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO? I LIKE HORIZONTAL FENCES.
I, UH, BUT OUR CODE REQUIRES A STEEL POST.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PUT THAT TOGETHER WITH A STEEL POST.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO PUT A RUNNER DOWN THE POST.
UH, TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW THAT NEXT MEETING WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AGAIN.
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MM-HMMSO, UM, IT'LL BE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
PLUS THERE'S THE, THE EXTRA PART FOR THE SUP MM-HMM
UM, SO IT'S, UM, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD CONTINUE THE SAME, THE SAME PRODUCT ACROSS THE WHOLE PROPERTY? YEAH.
I'LL, THE REST OF IT GOTTA HOLD OFF TILL THE, TILL THE TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
THERE OTHER THINGS, OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THAT.
YOU, UM, SEE YOU THE NEXT MEETING.
WE, WE DIDN'T GET ANY, WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE FROM THE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM.
AND SO I, THEY PROBABLY LIKE IT OTHER THAN
WELL IT'S KIND OF A JUNGLE A LITTLE BIT.
TRY TO BE READY TO BE CLEANED UP FOR SURE.
AND I THINK THE NEXT MEETING IS, UM, NOT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT CHANGING FROM R ONE.
UM, PD AND KIND OF LIMITING SOME OF THE, THE PERMITTED USES.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, MAYOR I, UH, MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE FENCING EXCEPTION FOR THIS LOT.
[20. SUP-25-08-0030 - Specific Use Permit - Registered Group Home (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit for a Registered Group Home on 0.15 acres. Lot 4, Block D, Kingswood Forest Addition Phase I, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, zoned Planned Development169 (PD-169) district, and addressed as 2747 Sedgemoor Dr (On October 14, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 9-0)]
ITEM 20 FOR THE THIRD TIME.ITEM 20 IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A REGISTERED GROUP HOME LOCATED AT 27 47 SMORE DRIVE.
UM, I CAN QUICKLY GO THROUGH ITEMS. COUNSEL.
WE'VE HEARD THIS SO MANY TIMES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT BY NOW.
I'M AGAINST THIS HOUSE BECOMING A SMALL TYPE B RESIDENTIAL CARE HOME.
THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE WITH THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, THE STROBE BLACKS, THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING REQUIREMENTS.
NO, WE, WHEN YOU HAVE A BOARD AND CARE HOME, THERE WAS A LADY OUT IN, UM, SOUTH GRAND PRAIRIE.
SHE SPECIFICALLY SAID, I WILL NOT PUT MY MOTHER IN A MEDICAID NURSING HOME IN TEXAS.
SHE HAD THREE OTHER OLDER LADIES IN THERE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR, WHICH THE STATE REGS ALLOWED.
AND I REALIZE WE HAVE THESE HOUSES, BUT WE OWN THE REGISTRATION OF THESE.
WHAT I WANT TO WARN YOU ABOUT, IF YOU APPROVE THIS AND THEY EXPAND THIS, AND LET'S SEE, YOU'VE KINDA LIKE, YOU BROKE IT, YOU BOUGHT IT.
WHO'S GONNA SHOW UP ON SUNDAY NIGHT DOWN THERE, SATURDAY NIGHT DOWN THERE, AND MAKE SURE THIS BUILDING'S STAFFED.
UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT RESIDENTS, SEVEN, EIGHT RESIDENTS IN THERE.
UH, WHO'S THE OVERSIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE FUNCTION OF THIS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND OTHER REGULATORY OVERSIGHTS, WHICH WE'RE FORTING OUT OUT OF 50TH DOWN HERE IN TRUMP, PUBLICAN, TEXAS.
IF YOU KEEP IT AT FOUR PEOPLE, THAT'S ENOUGH TO MANAGE EVERYONE.
ESPECIALLY ONE OF THOSE FOUR IS SOMEONE WHO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP CHANGE THEIR DIAPER.
SOMEONE WHO HAS DEMENTIA, THAT'S VERY AGGRAVATED.
THEY REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.
WE CAN'T STAFF OUR HOSPITALS RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T STAFF OUR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.
SO TRYING TO STAFF A RESIDENTIAL CARE HOME IS ANOTHER SERIOUS CHALLENGE.
AND I REALIZE THERE'S SOME THAT GOOD WORK.
I'VE SEEN THE BAD ONES OUT THERE.
NEWS MEDIA HAS SHOWN US WHAT HAPPENED IN NORTHWEST GRAND PRAIRIE.
WHAT HAPPENED IN ARLINGTON STEALING SOMEONE'S MONEY.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH REGULATORY OVERSIGHT.
THERE ISN'T ENOUGH INSPECTORS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO STOP IN.
NOT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
OH, ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
HOW SHORT STAFFED WE ARE, WHO'S PREPARING THEIR MEALS.
THERE'S JUST TOO MANY VARIABLES HERE.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP THIS AS IT IS NOW TAKING CARE OF THE FOUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THIS FACILITY AND REMAIN AT THAT.
MR. LOPEZ, JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I I BELIEVE THE CURRENT AMOUNT IS THREE RESIDENTS.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT? WHOM CURRENT OPERATIONS? YES.
SO GIVEN I KNOW WE RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL DATA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FIRE DEPARTMENT REGARDING HOW MANY TIMES THEY'VE BEEN VISITING OUT THERE THE LAST 18 MONTHS, EVEN TO
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THE HOME NEXT DOOR.I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER 50 TIMES IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS.
SO JUST INCREASING THAT NUMBER REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME AT THIS TIME.
SO, UM, BUT THEN ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING QUITE SUB TIME.
SO MY MOTION TONIGHT WILL BE THAT WE APPROVE SUP 25 0 8 0 0 3, BUT THEY REMAIN AT ONLY AT THREE OCCUPANTS MAXIMUM SECOND.
IS THAT, SO THREE OCCUPANTS IS A DIFFERENT USE CATEGORY.
UH, GOING TO FOUR OR MORE IS A REGISTERED GROUP HOME.
IF, UM, I THINK WE WANNA LEAVE IT AT THREE THOUGH.
THEY, THEY WILL HAVE TO RETURN FOR AN SUP FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
CAN THEY OPERATE IN THE MEANTIME? I GUESS THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR COUNSEL.
CAN HE MAKE IT A MO PART OF THE MOTION AS LONG AS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION? MY VIEW IS YES, BUT OF COURSE THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT LEGALLY OPERATING THOUGH, PER OUR SUP REQUIREMENT.
YOU WANT TO, WHAT? WOULD YOU MAKE A PART OF THE MOTION, JOHN? YEAH, I I I COULD AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY FOUR MAXIMUM AND THEN THAT WOULD COVER THE PROCESS.
OR WOULD IT, IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO OPERATE WITH FOUR PEOPLE, THEY WOULD BE A REGISTERED GROUP HOME AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO, IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE STATE LICENSE AND OPERATED AS A REGISTERED GROUP HOME WOULD NOT HAVE TO RETURN FOR ANOTHER SUP.
BUT I, I KNOW THERE'S, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT MIGHT HAVE A, ANOTHER GROUP HOME WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.
AND THE STATE LAW MIGHT SAY THAT YOU COMBINE BOTH NUMBERS TO QUALIFY.
OR AM I NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT PART? RIGHT.
THAT IS FOR THE STATE LICENSURE.
BUT IF IT'S THREE AT THIS LOCATION, OUR DEFINITION IS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
SO IT, IT'S, IT IS MORE OUR PREFERENCE.
I, I'M WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY A MAXIMUM OF FOUR.
UM, IF, IF Y'ALL SOMEONE WOULD SECOND THAT.
OH, WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.
UH, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? IF THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SIX OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER STATE LAW SAYS, IF THEY'RE REGISTERED AS THE GROUP HOME, THE STATE REQUIRES FOUR OR MORE INDIVIDUALS FOR HER TO BE REGISTERED AND LICENSED.
FOR A REGISTERED GROUP HOME, AS IT WAS NOTICED, IF IT'S LESS THAN FOUR, SHE HAS TO COME BACK BASED ON A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION.
BUT CAN WE LIMIT IT? IT FOUR? ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT A, PUT A MAX NUMBER ON IT? WE CAN NOW, WHICH THIS MOTION DOES.
WE CAN, BUT CAVEAT IS, TO Y'ALL'S POINT, SOMEBODY GOING IN AND VERIFYING THAT AFTER THE FACT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
YEAH, BUT WE COULD, THAT'D BE A PROBLEM IF WE LIMITED IT TO THREE.
THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE ISSUE.
AND HAROLD MAKES A POINT OF THAT.
BUT THE MOTION STANDS RIGHT NOW THAT YOU GET THE SECOND TO AGREE WITH YOUR CHANGE.
IS FOUR ANY OTHER, TONY, DID THEY TAKE CARE OF YOU? WELL, I THINK SAVANNAH IS TRYING TO DO, SO SAY SOMETHING, ORDER, UH, A COUPLE OF THE CONDITIONS WERE RELATED TO.
SO IF IT'S LIMITED TO FOUR, WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT IN THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
ARE YOU WANTING TO KEEP THOSE CONDITIONS AND MAKE THEM DO THAT OR STRIKE THOSE? I DON'T.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? JOHN OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS HERE.
WHY IS THIS SO HARD, JOHN? I WOULD WHAT? GIVEN THIS GROUP HOMES, THE FIRST RESPONDERS, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY, REGARDING FOUR TO SIX, SOME OF THE STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH FOUR, SOME OF THE STAFF TO GET A PHARMACY SYSTEM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SIX.
SO WHY IS THAT AN ISSUE? BECAUSE THAT WAS A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL BASED ON THAT NUMBER OF SIX.
IF YOU ARE LIMITING TO THE NUMBER FOUR.
BUT WOULD THE STATE STILL SEE THEM AS A REGISTERED WITHOUT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION? YES.
YOU WANNA AMEND IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU DO THEY HAVE TO DO FIRE SUPPRESSION IF OUR MOTION'S FOR FOUR
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CHIEF YES.WELL, I DON'T SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK.
IF YOU AMEND IT FOR FOUR, THEY HAVE TO BUILD A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM EVEN AT FOUR.
BUT THEY DON'T AT THREE, CORRECT? THEY DO AT FOUR.
IF WE LEAVE IT AT THREE, WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCESS AGAIN AS A FACILITY ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
IT'S A DIFFERENT CATEGORY UNDER OUR NCE.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN TO THE PROCESS.
I THINK JOHN'S MOTION IS GOOD.
UH, COUNCILMAN LOPEZ, UH, WOULD I WONDER IF WE'D LIKE TO LET THE, UH, APPLICANT TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR ONLY FOUR TO GO THROUGH ALL THE, UH, PROBLEMS THAT SHE'S ALREADY TOLD US.
THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ARE YOU HERE AT ONLY FOUR? I'M I'M GONNA ALLOW YOU TO COME 'CAUSE WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS OKAY TO DO.
I I WANNA, WOULD YOU RATHER US LEAVE IT AT THREE OR MOVE IT TO FOUR? IF I GO TO FOUR, THEN IT'S STILL, YOU'D RATHER GO TO SIX BE ONLY BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO FOUR, YOU LICENSE AS AN, YOU HAVE TO GET A LICENSE.
AS AN ASSISTED LIVING, YOU CARRY THE SAME LICENSE.
SO YOU'D RATHER LEAVE IT AT THREE OR GIVE YOU SIX.
IF DUE TO MY REGISTERED NURSING LICENSE, I WOULD RATHER REGISTER IT BECAUSE AS OF JUNE 1ST, THAT, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.
DO YOU WANNA STAY AT THREE OR GO TO SIX? I WANNA GO TO SIX.
BUT WOULD, IF WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO TO SIX
UH, STAFF, HOW HARD WILL IT BE FOR US TO LEAVE HER AT THREE AND JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS? THERE WOULD BE NO PROCESS.
THAT'S THE NO, THERE IS, WE STILL HAVE THE SUP REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION.
I THINK ONE OF THE THREE, I THINK WE WOULD APPROVE THE SUP JOHN.
GO THROUGH THE DURING PROCESS.
AND WHAT IS THE NEW SUP PROCESS? WHAT IS THAT DEFINED? IT'S THE SAME PROCESS THAT SHE WENT THROUGH.
THE WA THAT GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WAIVE THE FEES, JOHN.
'CAUSE ONLY THESE ARE THREE WAIVE THE FEES TO COME BACK AND FOUR MAY NOT BE FINANCIALLY VIABLE TO DO ALL THAT EXTRA STUFF.
AND, AND THE ONLY REASON WITH, I MEAN I, I KNOW WE SET THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO HELP WITH ALL THE INFLUX OF YOUR HOMES COMING INTO OUR CITY.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S A REASON WE DID THIS AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE TOO, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE OWNS A PROPERTY OR RENTS A PROPERTY, SO IF YOU'RE JUST RENTING A HOME, I KNOW IT'S A BIG INVESTMENT FOR YOU.
BUT IF SOMEONE OWNED THAT HOME AND THEY WERE OPERATING IN THIS MANNER, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THESE ORDINANCES TO NOT HAVE SO MUCH INFLUX OF THESE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTS.
SO, UH, IF SO, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO DENY IT AND JUST SEND IT BACK WITHOUT ANY PENALTIES AND NO FEES.
AND DON'T EVER HER HAVE TO REAPPLY TO DO THE SUP RIGHT.
I KNOW, BUT WE WON'T CHARGE HER.
IF I GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WILL I, I STILL NEED A LICENSED ASSISTED LIVING HOME.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A GROUP HOME THAT'S, I'M, I'M TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
OUR DILEMMA IS, TO BE BLUNT, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE SIX.
OKAY? YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, PERIOD.
BUT YOU ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO GRANT YOU SOME GRACE, OKAY? AND THAT'S HARD FINDING THAT EQUAL, THAT HAPPY MEDIUM.
SO I'M, I'M THINKING BASED ON WHAT I HEAR, WE'D RATHER YOU STAY AT THREE AND COME BACK.
JOHN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YES SIR.
AND THEN THE MOTION ALLOW HER TO STILL OPERATE AT THREE THREE AT THREE.
AND UNTIL AUGUSTLY GETS RESOLVED.
BECAUSE THE CRISIS, I ALREADY TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN OVER CRISIS MANAGEMENT.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A CRIME NOW TO HAVE THIS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE CAN GRANT HER SOMETHING.
CAN'T WE? WE CAN FOR I GIVE HER A NOTE FOR THE CITY.
STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE IN THESE ISSUES.
THE FOUR, SHE NEEDS THE FOUR TO BE REGISTERED AND LICENSED.
SO THERE'S FOUR RASHAD, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND, CHIEF? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? I RECOMMEND ALLOWING THIS TO BE FOUR AS Y'ALL MENTIONED EARLIER, AND UH, TAKE OUT THE CAVEAT OF SOME OF THESE STIPULATIONS WITH REGARD TO THE FIRE SUPPRESSION
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SYSTEM FOR US.IF SHE KEEPS IT AT FOUR, TAKE THOSE OUT.
BUT IF I GO TO FORD, THE STATE WILL REQUIRE ME TO HAVE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
WE CAN'T BE TELLING HER DON'T FOLLOW THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS, IF YOU, IF WE GIVE YOU THE PERMISSION TO GO TO FOUR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO FOUR.
YOU CAN STILL OPERATE WITH THREE AND NOT HAVE TO GET THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
SO NOW IT IS, IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE TO OPERATE WITHOUT A LICENSE.
BUT IF WE GRANT YOU TO GO TO FOUR JUST TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE SEAMLESS, YOU'LL GO TO THE STATE, GET YOUR LICENSE AND ALL YOUR REGISTRATION.
AND THEY BASED OFF OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEY TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN GO IN THERE.
YEAH, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU HOW MANY YOU LICENSE.
AND IF YOU DECIDE YOU ONLY WANT TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, THAT IS POSSIBLE.
THEN THE, THEN THE STATE DOES STEP IN.
THE STATE WOULDN'T STEP IN UNDER THE STATE WOULDN'T STEP IN.
THE STATE REQUIRES IT, HUH? I THINK THE STATE REQUIRES IT.
RIGHT? THE STATE REQUIRES IT FOR FOUR OR MORE.
SO SHE COULD KEEP IT AT THREE.
WE CAN GIVE HER PERMISSION FOR FOUR AND IT'LL BE HER DISCRETION WHETHER SHE MOVES IT UP TO FOUR.
BUT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M ONLY TRYING TO, I'M ONLY TRYING TO INCREASE IT FOR REGULATION PURPOSES.
SO I CAN'T BE REGULATED BECAUSE OF THE NEW LAWS.
THAT'S THE NO, BUT, BUT MA'AM, YOU'RE CONFUSING US AGAIN.
OKAY? IF WE PERMIT YOU TO HAVE FOUR TODAY, RIGHT? YOU'LL GO THROUGH THE STATE PROCESS, YOU'LL GET YOUR LICENSING, RIGHT? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM UNLESS YOU MOVE UP TO FOUR.
IF YOU DON'T MOVE UP TO FOUR, YOU JUST, AND YOU JUST STAY AT THREE, YOU JUST GET YOUR LICENSING AND YOU'RE, I CAN'T APPLY FOR THE LICENSE THROUGH THE STATE, WITHOUT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
RASHAD SIMPLIFY THIS FOR EVERYONE.
IF WE GIVE FOUR APPROVED, IT'S THE SAME REQUIREMENT BECAUSE MY, MY OTHER LICENSE ASSISTED LIVING HOME HAS EIGHT.
IT'S LICENSED FOR EIGHT THROUGH THE STATE.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IF YOU KEEP ME AT THREE? UH, MORE THAN LIKELY I WILL CLOSE IT DOWN BECAUSE IT, IT'S IT, MY NURSING LICENSE COMES INTO QUESTION.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEN I'M NOT MY LICENSE.
YOU WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO KEEP GOING, CORRECT? IT WOULDN'T FOR IT JUST WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON.
SO RASHAD, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST SO THAT SHE CAN REGISTER AND BE LICENSED AND ADDRESS THAT CONCERN? ALSO, ADDRESSING Y'ALL'S CONCERN WITH A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE HOME.
I SAY APPROVE THIS WITH A MAXIMUM OF FOUR.
AND THEN IF WE WANT TO LEAVE THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IN, WE COULD SAY AS NEEDED INSTEAD OF IS REQUIRED.
WE STILL HAVE TO DO, IF THE STATE REQUIRES HER TO GET THIS LICENSE, WE CAN'T.
THAT'S IF SHE MOVES FORWARD, THE STATE, THAT'S IF SHE MOVES, SHE'S GOTTA DO IT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I, I KNOW THAT'S WHY SHE'S HERE BECAUSE SHE WANTS, SHE WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH FOUR.
I DON'T THINK FINANCIALLY IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
I, I, I WAS TRYING TO GO FOR EIGHT.
IF THEY SAID SIX, I COULD, I CAN MAKE IT WORK WITH SIX.
BUT WITH EVERYTHING INCREASING THAT, IN THAT SITUATION, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SOLUTION, IF THAT'S GONNA BE THE ULTIMATE NUMBER THAT SHE NEEDS THE SOLUTION, THE ONLY SOLUTION TO KEEP HER OPEN LAST SHE WANTS WOULD APPROVE HER FOR SIX.
I DON'T THINK WE WANNA DO THAT AS SHE'S STATING, BECAUSE AT THE PRICE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS GONNA COST ANYWHERE FROM 35 NOW TO 25,000.
RIGHT NOW, BEFORE SHE SPENDS ANY MORE MONEY IS THE TIME TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
WE WERE WORKING OUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT BASED ON HER OPERATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE NEEDS SIX TO MAKE IT WORK FINANCIALLY.
SO THAT'S THE DECISION TO BE MADE.
BUT INSTEAD OF US MAKING THAT DECISION, JOHN, JOHN, INSTEAD OF US MAKING THE DECISION FOR HER, I THINK YOUR MOTION AT FORTH AND THEN LET HER SEE IF IT'S FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AND GO FORWARD OR NOT, INSTEAD OF US TELLING HER NO SINCE YOU WANT TO GO TO SIX.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, JOHN? NO.
IT, IT DOES, IT KEEPS HER OPEN.
IT ALLOWS HER TO KEEP OPERATING, BUT SHE HAS TO DECIDE WHAT SHE'LL TO MAKE A FINANCIAL DECISION.
SHE MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, I CAN DO IT FOR HER.
SO IS THAT JUST US LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN FOR, IT'S JUST LIKE A BIG EMPTY HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO EXTRA ROOMS THAT NOBODY EVER CC OCCUPY.
BUT YOU COULD ALSO, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? HOW, HOW MANY BEDROOMS ARE THERE? THERE ARE, UH, FIVE BEDROOMS AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEAD.
IT WASN'T THE BEDROOM THAT BOTHER US.
IT WAS A NUMBER OF CALLS AND SHE'S ALREADY CLOSE TO ANOTHER ONE WITHIN 2,500 FEET.
IT'S HOW MANY OF THESE WE WANT OPERATING CLOSE PROXIMITY BEFORE IT INJURES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR CALL VOLUME.
REGARDING PROXIMITY TO ANOTHER WHITE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO LIMIT IT TO
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THREE INSTEAD OF DOUBLING IT TO SIX.JOHN, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SO MANY TIMES.
I, I, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT I REVIEWED WITH JOHN, I'M NOT WILLING TO GO TO SIX THAT DOUBLES IT.
MAYBE IT'S UP TO JOHN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AT FOUR AND LET HER DECIDE.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
NOW WITH THE SECOND, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
YOU CAN GET WITH STAFF ON WHAT IMPLICATIONS THIS HAVE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE DECISION FOR YOU WHETHER YOU STAY OPEN OR NOT.