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ALTHOUGH I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S TOO LATE TO BE SAYING THAT, BUT, UH, WHATEVER.
I JUST SAID IT, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
SO, UM, THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING.
WE'VE GOT SOME STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
UM, BILL, THE FIRST ONE'S DOWNTOWN PRESENTATION SCHEDULE.
WHO'S GONNA BE DOING THAT? YES.
UH, FIRST, LET ME INTRODUCE THIS TO YOU.
UM, DOWNTOWN IS MOVING INTO A VERY EXCITING YEAR WHERE WE'LL HAVE TWO THINGS HAPPENING AT ONCE.
ONE IS VISIBLE PROGRESS AND THE START OF REAL DISRUPTION.
OUR SUCCESS WILL BE DEFINED MORE OR LESS BY WHERE, NOT BY WHETHER WE BUILD PROJECTS AND MORE BY WHETHER WE KEEP BUSINESS STABILITY, PUBLIC CONFIDENCE, AND LONG-TERM IDENTITY INTACT WHILE WE DO IT.
SO RATHER THAN BRINGING YOU ONE BIG DOWNTOWN CONVERSATION, WE'RE BRINGING YOU A SEQUENCE PLAN, CLEAR DECISION POINTS IN THE RIGHT ORDER WITH ENOUGH RUNWAY FOR THE MARKET AND THE COMMUNITY TO STAY ENGAGED.
THE FIRST MAJOR CHECKPOINT IS TENTATIVELY SET FOR JANUARY THE 20TH.
WE'LL FOCUS ON THE CALVARY REDEVELOPMENT AND THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION WITH THE LGC AND THEIR MASTER DEVELOPER THREE I, THE DEAL STRUCTURE AND PROJECT ALIGNMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN EARLY TO KEEP OUR REDEVELOPMENT ON TRACK.
NOW, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE TWO BOSSES, CHERYL AND MEGAN, TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT.
IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A CHRISTMAS WRAP UP AND TALK ABOUT HOW THE SEASON WENT.
AND SPOILER ALERT, IT WENT REALLY, REALLY WELL,
THE COUNCIL'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT YOU WANT DOWNTOWN TO BE A SPECIAL PLACE THAT ACKNOWLEDGES OUR, THE ROOTS OF OUR CITY AND PREPARES US FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU WANT DOWNTOWN TO BE THE PLACE TO BE A TOP DFW DESTINATION.
WE ARE NOW ONE OF THE TOP DESTINATIONS IN DFW.
WE'RE GONNA DO THAT WITH DOWNTOWN.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE HIRED A FIRM CALLED MY O2.
THEY WERE GONNA BE INTERVIEWING EACH ONE OF YOU.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DESCRIBE, EXPLAIN AND PROJECT YOUR VISION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BE.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THOSE OF YOUR IDEAS, PUT 'EM TOGETHER, CREATE SOME CONCEPT, AND THEY'RE GONNA SHARE THEM WITH YOU.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, YOU WILL ACTUALLY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHAT IS THE VISION, WHAT IS THE BERG.
THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE YOU A ROAD UPDATE.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE IS NOT ONLY A PLAN OF FINANCE, BUT THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND THE PROGRESS OF DOWNTOWN.
THANK, I WON'T BE CALLED THE TURN BACK PROJECT.
THAT IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA REDESIGN VIA IMAGINE DOWNTOWN.
THE LAST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IN SPRING IS WE'RE GONNA BE INTRODUCING TO YOU OUR BACK DOOR PROGRAM.
THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY SPECIAL PROGRAM IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY CUSTOMERS THAT COME DOWNTOWN WHO ARE VERY SPECIAL, WE'RE GONNA MAKE WAYFINDING.
WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE THAT WE ALL CONSTRUCTION'S GOING ON.
THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GO BEHIND THE AREAS TO VISIT THOSE CUSTOMIZED CENTERS THAT ARE HERE DURING CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT IS THE UPDATE AND THE SUMMER STARTS TO HEAT UP, SO WILL OUR STAGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
SO WE WILL BE GIVING YOU A KIND OF A MID MIDPOINT UPDATE AS TO HOW, UM, CONSTRUCTION IS GOING.
WE ALSO PLAN ON COMING UP WITH A, A PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROGRAM IT, BECAUSE WHENEVER WE HAVE A SHINY NEW TOY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH THAT SHINY NEW TOY.
AND SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A, A PROCESS FOR HOW WE WILL BE DOING RESERVATIONS FOR THE STAGE, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AS CITY STAFF FOR PROGRAMMING.
SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT PRESENTATION IN THE SUMMER.
LASTLY, WE HAVE ALSO HEARD YOU VERY STRONGLY THAT OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ARE CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE EXISTING BUSINESSES ARE HEALTHY AND VIBRANT DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING OUT A PLAN TO, TO STRENGTHEN THOSE BUSINESSES, KEEP THEIR VITALITY DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND ALSO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME NEW ATTRACTIONS FOR WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE GOOD BUSINESSES
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FOR SOME OF THE VACANT PROPERTIES.SO WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU IN SUMMER AS WELL.
WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? COUNCIL MEMBER, CLEMSON.
VERY GOOD PRESENTATION AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS AND THE STAFF TO CONSIDER THIS.
UM, PREVIOUSLY DOWNTOWN WAS THE CENTER OF TOWN ON MAIN STREET.
MAIN STREET, HISTORICALLY, AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S GROWN, UH, TO THE SOUTH.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT MIGHT NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER CALLING OUR DOWNTOWN, OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
UM, WOULD THAT BE MORE APPROPRIATE OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT AS FAR AS BEING MORE ACCURATE IN DESCRIBING WHAT IT IS? YOU KNOW, I, I TAKE REBECCA EVERYWHERE TO VISIT DOLLAR TREES TO GET BEADS AND UH, WE WERE IN WAXAHATCHEE THE OTHER DAY AND SHE SAID, WELL, WHERE'S DOWNTOWN? WELL, YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN AND IT DOES SAY HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
HOWEVER, IT COULD HAVE SAID DOWNTOWN AND I WOULD'VE WENT THE SAME WAY.
HISTORIC DOWNTOWN HAS A NICE RING TO IT AND IT IS FACTUAL EITHER WAY IS FACTUAL.
CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, I LIKE THE IDEA.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING IT HISTORIC, BUT WHAT ABOUT UPTOWN? SINCE IT IS FAR NORTH NOW, WE CAN DO A UPTOWN.
WE GOT OUR UPTOWN THEATER UPTOWN, SO MAYBE HISTORIC UPTOWN.
WHEN I THINK OF UPTOWN, I THINK OF DALLAS AND IT AIN'T OLD.
I WOULD RATHER STICK WITH DOWNTOWN THAN UPTOWN, BUT THAT'S JUST ME BECAUSE I'M THINKING, I HEAR ABOUT UPTOWN IN DALLAS ALL THE TIME AND THERE'S NOTHING OLD ABOUT UPTOWN IN DALLAS.
RIGHT? WELL, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING OLD ABOUT THIS EITHER.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE OH YEAH, WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT.
WONDERING, BUT IT'LL BE A VERY NEW CONCEPT.
AND THE GREAT NEWS IS WE WILL BE HAVING MY TWO CO COME AND BE INTERVIEWING EACH OF YOU TO TALK ABOUT THAT VISION AND THOSE TYPES OF CONCEPTS WILL BE KIND OF AT THE FOREFRONT.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE MERGING EVERYBODY'S IDEAS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE UNIFIED VISION AT THAT POINT.
UH, YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON'S IDEA ABOUT THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
UM, FOR MOST PEOPLE THAT COME INTO OUR CITY, THE EPIC AREA IS WHAT THEY CONSIDER DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO, UM, AS WE'RE DOING THE RECONSTRUCTION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN GIVING IT, THAT, THAT HIGHLIGHTING IT WITH THAT NAME, THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN OF GRAND PRAIRIE, I THINK WILL BRING EVEN MORE TOURISM AS WE TRY TO PROMOTE IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEADON, I WANTED TO SAY A BIT ABOUT MYCO TOO.
UM, TONY AND I MET WITH THEM IN JANUARY AND THEY SPECIALIZE IN KIND OF TWO SPECIALTIES, BUT ONE IS EXPERIENTIAL EVENT ACTIVATIONS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE NETFLIX HOUSE, THEY'VE DONE THAT IN PHILADELPHIA.
UM, LEGO ACTIVATIONS, GAME OF THRONE ACTIVATIONS, LIKE THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT MOVIE AND KIND OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY BIG WITH WHETHER YOUNG PEOPLE OR ADULTS THAT THEY CAN TAKE THAT SHOW, MOVIE CONCEPT, WHATEVER, AND THEN MAKE A PAID EXPERIENTIAL, UM, ACTIVATION.
SO I GUESS THE SECOND ARM THEY HAVE IS CITIES WHO HAVE AREAS MORE THAN JUST ONE BUILDING THAT THEY WANT TO ACTIVATE AND HOW TO INCORPORATE THEIR SPECIALTIES, THEIR, THEIR EXPERTISE WITH THE SPECIALTY ACTIVATIONS, WITH KIND OF EXPANDING THAT TO A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL, WHICH I GUESS IS WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING FOR US.
BUT WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR PRESENTATION AND THE NUMBERS, UM, THAT THEY DRAW WHEN THEY PUT EVENTS ON.
SO TO KIND OF EXPAND THAT SCALE TO A COUPLE OF BLOCKS DOWNTOWN, I MEAN, WE WOULD BE WITH WHAT THEY DO, ONE OF THE FEW AREAS WITH THESE TYPE OF OFFERINGS.
UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ACTIVATIONS, BUT THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER FOR A WHILE AND NOW THEY'VE EXPANDED TO MUNICIPAL WORK.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR INTERVIEW, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THAT BACKSTORY ON SOME OF THEIR PORTFOLIO, BUT THEY QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, UH, WHEN Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, STAGE CONSTRUCTION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST STAGE CONSTRUCTION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE LAWN AND THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THE LAWN? JUST THE STAGE.
JUST THE STAGE, THE LAWN, THE, THE, THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE IN THIS PICTURE WILL BE PART OF THE THREE I LGC
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LATER CONSTRUCTION.WELL, I'M TALKING, I MEAN THE, UH, WE HAD SOME SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WERE GONNA BE IN THE LAWN.
OH YEAH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THE LAWN, THE, THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE STAGE.
NOT THE, UH, OTHER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WOULD BE BUILDINGS.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. OKAY, ONE MORE, ONE MORE.
UM, I WANNA KNOW, AS FAR AS THE VACANT LOT PROGRAM, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND TO, OR ANY IDEAS FOR THOSE VACANT LOTS? UM, THE ACTIVATIONS I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
SO DO YOU ALL HAVE SOME PLANS, UM, THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ALREADY OR THAT'S JUST IN THE BEGINNING? WE, SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF FINE TUNING THOSE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING STAFF KIND OF BRAINSTORMING TOGETHER AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO SHARE YET, BUT WE'LL BE VERY SOON.
MAY ANSWER THE ALSO AND ANSWER TO ALSO AN ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHOT.
WILL, WE WILL ALSO BE BRINGING THE BELL BACK AND WE'LL HAVE THE REDEDICATION OF THE BELL DURING THIS TIME IN THE SUMMER AFTER THAT CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE.
SO IT'LL BE BACK AND IN PLACE.
WELL, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL START IN SUMMER, RIGHT? NO, NO, IT'S ALREADY STARTED STARTING RIGHT NOW, THE STAGE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT'S GONNA BE FINISHED IN THE SUMMER? YES, SIR.
BY THE, IT'LL BE FINISHED BY SEPTEMBER.
THE SUMMER WILL BE ABOUT HALFWAY POINT OF AN UPDATE.
MOST OF US DON'T CONSIDER SEPTEMBER SUMMER.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. END OF SEPTEMBER.
WE'RE HOPING EARLY SEPTEMBER, BUT HEY, LET'S JUST SAY SEPTEMBER.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, ONE MORE THING WITH THE, UM, HISTORIC PORTION, OTHER THAN THE BAIL, WHAT ELSE ARE WE ABLE TO PRESERVE TO KEEP THAT HISTORIC LOOK? ARE THERE ANY PLANS OF THE WORKS? AS FAR AS, I KNOW THE FACADES PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE, BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER PLANS TO KEEP IT HISTORIC OR HAVE A HISTORIC LOOK OR HAVE PLACES WHERE WE CAN POINT TO AS BEING HISTORIC? WELL, OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE'LL HAVE A SIGN POINTS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, OTHER THAN THAT
SO ARE THERE, I DON'T THINK THE BUILDINGS THAT WE APPROVED REMIND ME OF OLD DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S WHY I SAID WE'LL, WE'LL PUT AN ARROW ACROSS THE STREET.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IDENTIFY AREAS.
NUMBER TWO, MAYOR, OUR NEXT ONE IS KYLE
THERE ARE TWO TWO, 2026 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM, UH, REVIEW FOR OUR SECOND REVIEW OF THIS WITH YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, UM, THIRD PUBLIC MEETING ON THE 2020 SIXTH JILL BOND.
WE HAD THE SESSION ON DECEMBER 2ND AS THE SPECIAL MEETING, AND THEN WE HAD, UH, THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE LAST ONE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE THIRD ONE TODAY.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE A JUST A BRIEF RECAP OF THE PROPOSED PACKAGE AND SCHEDULE.
UH, THIS MEETING IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE MAY ELECTION.
SO THE AGENDA, ONCE AGAIN, JUST HIGH LEVEL, WE'LL MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH IT AS A CALENDAR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT CATEGORIES, THE TAX RATE IMPACT, AND THEN NEXT STEPS.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE AT THE THIRD MEETING.
UH, THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 20TH.
UH, WE WILL BE BRINGING, UH, A RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL, UH, WITH A, A LISTING OF PROJECTS.
UM, THAT'S ONLY FOR, UM, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE FINALIZING ANYTHING THAT'S NOT TAX RATE IMPLICATIONS, NOTHING THAT IS, THAT IS TO BRING A LIST SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BOND COUNCIL AND WORK, WORK ON THE WARNING, UH, TO GET PREPARED FOR THE ORDINANCE ON FEBRUARY 3RD.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, FOR COUNCIL TO CALL THE, UH, MAY ELECTION.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS THERE'LL BE, UH, WE'LL BE PUBLISHING THE NOTICE OF THE ELECTION IN APRIL, MAY.
UH, WE WILL BE, UH, SENDING OUT INFORMATION
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NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC UNTIL THE, UH, MAY 2ND ELECTION.SO THIS IS, WE WILL GO QUICKLY OVER THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
UH, THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY CATEGORIES, STREETS, PUBLIC SAFETY, COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE EVERY, UH, THE TOTAL UH, WILL BE 335 MILLION.
THE TAX RATE IMPACT AS PROPOSED FOR EACH CATEGORY TOTAL IS 3.99 CENTS.
THE FIRST CATEGORY WILL BE THE STREETS PROJECTS.
THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 12 PROJECTS, 209 MILLION WITH A 2.50 CENT TAX IMPACT.
AND HERE'S A CONTINUATION OF THE 12 PROJECTS.
THE NEXT CATEGORY IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
TOTAL, UH, IMPACT WILL BE 86.5 MILLION WITH A LITTLE OVER 1 CENT TAX IMPACT.
AND THE FINAL CATEGORY IS THE COMMUNITY BASED PROJECT.
UH, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE, UM, SPLIT THE CATEGORIES BACK INTO THREE INDIVIDUAL ONES.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS APPROXIMATELY 39 MILLION WITH A LITTLE UNDER 50, UH, HALF PERCENT, UH, TAX IMPACT.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE BRINGING, UH, A RESOLUTION, UH, TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT LISTING.
BASED ON THE FEEDBACK TODAY, UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING AN ORDINANCE TO CALL THE ELECTION ON FEBRUARY 3RD.
AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN AN OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, UH, BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND MAY.
AND THEN THE ELECTION WILL BE ON MAY 2ND, UM, AVAILABLE FOR ANY DISCUSSION DIRECTORS OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL AL, HOW YOU GOOD SIR? UH, THIS TAX IMPACT BUSINESS, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TOLD TO USE BY THE STATE, BUT LET'S BE HONEST WHILE WE'RE HERE, THAT'S THE POTENTIAL WORST CASE SCENARIO, CORRECT? YES SIR.
THAT'S IF EVERY PROJECT ESSENTIALLY WOULD HAPPEN ALL AT ONE TIME, UM, IN WHICH IT WOULD NOT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU CAN'T DO 'EM ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO AT THAT, AND ALSO IT, WE'RE USING VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS FOR POTENTIAL GROWTH.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WOULD BE THE WORST CASE MOST.
AND THERE IS A BETTER THAN REASONABLE POSSIBILITY THAT SINCE IT'S OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD, THAT THAT WON'T BE WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.
AND I REALIZE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATE TELLS US TO PUT ON IT.
BUT SO THERE ARE ASSUMPTION, I I STILL BELIEVE HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.
SO THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE OUT OF A SNAPSHOT POINT OF TIME, BUT ADDITIONAL GROWTH, ECONOMIC CONDITIONS COULD GO EITHER WAY.
BUT UM, IT IS A CONSERVATIVE, 3% IS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.
AND, AND AS YOU SAID, IT'S OVER THE 10 YEARS AND WE, WE JUST PHYSICALLY CAN'T DO ALL OF THESE AT ONE TIME.
SO, SO THERE, THERE WILL BE ONES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PLAN OUT IT'S AUTHORIZATION OVER 10 YEARS.
YOU'LL SPREAD OUT
WE WOULD ISSUE BONDS AS NEEDED FOR THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS AS WE KIND OF FEATHER IT IN.
AND THEN IT, AND THEN EVERY BUDGET SESSION, EVERY BUDGET YEAR WOULD LOOK AT THE, WHAT THE TAX RATE WOULD'VE TO JUST LIKE WE DO NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE $3 AND 99 CENTS.
IT'S NOT, I JUST WANT TRANSPARENCY AS WELL, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT THREE.
IT'S PER 100,000 PROPERTY VALUE.
UM, BACK ON PAGE NINE, TAO I RECALL ON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE BEST NAME FOR THIS THAT WAS APPROPRIATE, THAT DESCRIBED WHAT WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
AND I REMEMBER THAT COUNCILMAN LOPEZ MENTIONED HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOMETHING WITH A LI LIKE A LIBRARY, LIKE A MINI REC CENTER.
THAT WAS HIS DESCRIPTION OF IT.
BUT WE NEVER CAME UP WITH A GOOD NAME.
AND I DON'T THINK PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS APPROPRIATE.
I, I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TERM IT.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BETTER DESCRIBE WHAT WE ALL SEE AND VISUALIZE AS WHERE WE WANNA GO WITH THAT.
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AN APPROPRIATE NAME BECAUSE I, AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS APPROPRIATE.YEAH, NO, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
WE'RE, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORDSMITH THE NAME WITH IT.
I MEAN, I MEAN SOME OF THE THINGS IS LIKE CIVIC ART CENTER OR CIVIC, UH, CIVIC.
CIVIC CENTER OR CIVICS, CIVIC CULTURE CENTER, I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
CIVIC CENTER, I MEAN, SO CIVIC CENTER OR CIVIC ART CENTER.
UM, 'CAUSE ART, IT WOULD BE THE WORD PERFORMING OUT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAVE VARIATIONS OF DIFFERENT ART, WHETHER IT BE ART GALLERY, UH, PAINTING.
SO, SO I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I GUESS SCRATCHING OUT PERFORMING AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST, BEST WITH CITY.
YOU'LL WORK ON SOMETHING, LEAD PERFORMING OUT AND BRING IT BACK TO US.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON, DID YOU RE-PUT YOUR BUTTON? NO, THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEDON.
UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING A, AND IN THERE ARTS AND CIVIC OR CIVIC AND ARTS.
UM, MAYBE HAVING A COUPLE WORDS, UH, WITH A COMMA IF EVEN IF NEEDED JUST TO CAPTURE IT ALL.
BUT TAO, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WILL GO ON THE ELECTION? SO JANUARY 20TH WAS WHAT YOU WILL APPROVE AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL TO GET IT THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THEN THE FINALIZATION WILL BE BY FEBRUARY 3RD.
SO, UM, HONESTLY, WE, WE WILL NEED IT AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE THE FEBRUARY 3RD FOR AGENDAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEN GETTING THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE DIALED IN.
SO WE COULD FINALIZE ON OR DISCUSS ON JANUARY 20TH? YES.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST WE TRY TO NAIL IT DOWN THEN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND GET APPROVAL.
WE DON'T WANNA MAKE TOO MANY CHANGES AFTER THE 20TH, ALTHOUGH WE COULD IT, IT'S BEST NOT TO.
UH, TAO, MY QUESTION IS IF WE CALL IT A CIVIC CENTER NOW AND THEN WHEN IT'S TIME TO BUILD IT IN THREE YEARS, WE DECIDE TO CALL IT THE GRAND PRAIRIE MULTI-PURPOSE CIVIC CENTER.
IS THAT LEGAL OR DOES IT, DOES, DOES IT REALLY MATTER? WELL, UH, GENERALLY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL ASK FOR MORE SPECIFICS BASED ON THE WORDING THAT WE PROVIDE.
SO BASED ON THE JANUARY 20TH LIST, WE'LL GET WITH OUR MOM BOND COUNCIL, THEY'LL ASK FOR SPECIFICS AND THEN GENERALLY THEY'LL GIVE US FEEDBACK ON, UM, WELL BASED ON THIS WORDING, UH, GENERALLY WHAT THEY TELL US IS THAT, UH, IF YOU NAME IT SUCH, IF SOME AVERAGE RESIDENT GOES IN, WELL THEY KNOW THAT IT IS A PERFORMANCE ARTS CENTER.
SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE THE OR WHAT OR WHATEVER ELSE WE NAMED IT.
WE CALL IT A CIVIC CENTER WITH A NORMAL PERSON.
SO THE ANSWER WOULD PROBABLY BE MAYBE NO.
MY, MY QUESTION REALLY IS DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXACTLY, IF WE CALL IT THE CIVIC CENTER NOUN IN TWO YEARS, WHEN IT'S TIME TO BUILD, DO WE HAVE TO CALL IT EXACTLY THE GRAND PRAIRIE CIVIC CENTER? MAYBE THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE
WE'RE GONNA CALL IT THE GRAND PRAIRIE PICKLEBALL, WHATEVER, OR WITH THE BOTANICAL GARDENS AND PUBLIC ARTWORK.
THAT'S NOT A NAME FOR, FOR A FOR A THING.
SO IT'S MAINLY MORE ABOUT USAGE.
SO IF YOU'RE SAYING PERFORMANT ART CENTER WHERE THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE PRICE TAG, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A MODERN SYMPHONY.
SO IF THEY WOULDN'T THINK THAT IT'D BE OKAY FOR ORCHESTRA LEVEL, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, A SMALLER STAGE.
YOU'RE HAVING COMMUNITY GROUPS COME OUT.
SO YOU SAY A CIVIC CENTER, UM, WOULD BE, WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A CIVIC CENTER THAT A RESIDENT WOULD ENTAIL? SO I BET WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT I DON'T WANT TAL TO SAY, YEAH, WE CAN CHANGE IT.
'CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON, WE KNOW WHAT AUSTIN HAS BEEN TELLING Y'ALL WHEN YOU GO DOWN THERE.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS WE PROBABLY CAN'T NAME IT, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT OF OTHERS WE CAN'T.
WE GENERALLY WILL TRY TO MAKE THE LANGUAGE AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE TO GIVE US THE MOST.
SO WE AND IT'S CENTER CENTER
WE'LL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK, WE'LL BRING BACK SOME, UM, POTENTIAL NAMES, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, PICKLEBALL, PLAY AREA, FLOWERS WITH ART.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TT? YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON THE STAFF.
Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON COMING UP WITH THE LIST FOR THE BIG QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR PORTION OF THIS, THE ROADS FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE'S NOT A CITY IN THE DFW AREA THAT CAN'T USE MONEY FOR ROADS.
IF YOU JUST SAW THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THAT PLANO IS GETTING, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PLANOS MAYOR OF WHAT HE NEEDS IN 2026, HE SAID, WE GOTTA FIX ROADS.
WE ALL NEED ROADS FIXED THE QUARTER, THE EIGHTH CENT CAN'T KEEP UP, THE QUARTER CENT CAN'T KEEP UP.
SO I, THAT'S THE BIG THING GOING ON THERE AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK Y'ALL
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HAVE DONE ON IT.UM, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON WAS HERE FOR THE F AND G MEETING AND IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS CALLED ME AND SAID, MAYOR, I JUST HAVE COME DOWN WITH SOMETHING.
I HOPE IT'S NOT THE FLU, BUT I'M HEADING HOME SO HE WILL NOT BE BACK TONIGHT.
UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, MAYOR PROTE IS ON YOU FOR AGENDA REVIEW.
AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, THIS IS THE FIRST LIGHT THAT WE'RE DOING.
CITIZEN COMMENTS IMMEDIATELY AFTER CITIZEN COMMENTS AND ALSO THE FIRST NIGHT THAT WE DON'T TAKE SIGNUP CARDS AFTER I GAVEL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND THE FIRST TIME THAT WE LIMIT TIME OF SPEAKING, I WANT Y'ALL TO BEAR WITH ME TONIGHT 'CAUSE IT'S THE FIRST TIME AND I MAY BE, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
WE'LL SEE HOW, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
UH, FORTUNATELY THE CONSENT AGENDA'S SHORT.
UH, COUNCIL, WE HAVE ITEMS FIVE TO NINE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, UH, ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? ITEM EIGHT.
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK THE ITEM EIGHT? NOBODY
UH, WHY ARE WE, UH, GOING WITH, I, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
UH, THIS, I DID GO OUT TO BID, I BELIEVE WE'VE SEEN THREE BIDS.
UM, AND THEY WERE CHOSEN BASED ON BEST VALUE CRITERIA.
UM, A LOT OF THAT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT WAS IN THE JUDGMENTAL PART.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT, ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT'S WORKING WITH OTHER PROJECTS AND, AND FAMILIARITY WITH THE GRAND PRAIRIE AND ITS REGULATIONS IS KINDA LIKE THE, I CAN'T GET EXPERIENCE IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME A JOB TO GIVE, TO LET ME GET EXPERIENCE SITUATION, UH, THAT YOUNG PEOPLE GO THROUGH NOW TO TRY TO GET A JOB.
AND SO THE COMPANY THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY GAVE US THE LOWEST PRICE GOT HIT PRETTY HARD ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.
AND I, I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR JUDGMENT, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT TO WHERE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN WORK IN PEOPLE TO GET THAT, GET THAT EXPERIENCE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OVERALL VALUE OF THE GRAND PRAIRIE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT MURDERED THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE GIVING US THE LOWER PRICE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ALREADY BEEN HERE AND THEY GOT THE PERFECT SCORE.
SO HOW CAN, IS THERE A WAY THAT MAYBE WE CAN START FEATHERING? YOU CAN, YOU CAN GIVE LESS WEIGHT TO THAT.
SOME WAY TO FEATHER FEATHER IN NEW PEOPLE IS WHAT I, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO DO.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT.
TONY, ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT THIS ITEM, THIS IS NOT FOR AN EXCLUSIVE CATERING CONTRACT, MEANING THAT, UM, THIS, WE'RE AWARDING THIS CONTRACT TO THEM BECAUSE WE DO SO MUCH BUSINESS WITH THEM AT THE RJC AND HONESTLY IN OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL.
UM, BUT THIS IS NOT EXCLUSIVE.
THIS IS THE ONLY CATERING COMPANY THAT CAN OH DUNNO IF I, IF I RENT A, A PLACE I COULD BRING IN MY OWN, WELL THEN I GIVE, TRY TO GIVE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
SO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH 'EM.
SO IT'LL BE LEVEL OR PLAYING FIELD NEXT TIME WE GO OUT FOR BIDS, RIGHT, TONY? YEAH.
WELL IF I RENT THE PLACE, I CAN BRING IN MY OWN CATERING COMPANY, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT THIS IS FOR PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR ONES THAT THE CITY KIND OF SPONSORS AND WEIGHTED.
AND, UH, I'M JUST ASKING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO LET THE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH ALREADY IN THE DOOR GET A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE OKAY.
THAT'S SMALL VEHICLE IN THE CLASS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTION.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, I'LL BE TABLING 21 COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DOKI.
I DO HAVE, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU,
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WHEN WE START THE MEETING, I'LL ANNOUNCE THAT IN CASE SOMEBODY'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND EXCUSE THEM.YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.
UH, I CAN'T SEE, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, THE, UH, I UH, THE EXCLUSIONS OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE EXCLUDED FROM BEING TO GET THIS, UH, ARE THOSE STATE MANDATED? ARE THOSE ONES THAT WE
WELL THEN, THEN COUNSEL, UH, WELL FIRST THING LEMME ASK YOU, UH, OPERATE THE TWO EXCLUSIONS.
THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST EXCLUSION I WOULD COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO, UH, OUT, WHAT IS IT? IT'S, THE EXCLUSION IS CRYPTOCURRENCY, MOUNTING OPERATIONS, NON-OPERATIONAL HOLDING STRUCTURES OR SHELL BUILDINGS WITHOUT SUBMITTED AND QUALIFIED END USER.
ALL OF THOSE MAKE PERFECT SENSE.
UH, I JUST WANTED, I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT ADDING DATA CENTERS TO TODAY.
UH, THEY DON'T NEED A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE FIXING THE, WE'RE FIXING TO, UH, ENTERTAIN AN OPTION THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR A HUGE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DATA CENTERS THAT'LL BE ANNOUNCED IN TEXAS.
SO I'M NOT READY TO DO THAT JUST YET.
UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE, WELL, I'LL, I CAN VISIT WILLIAM.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UH, THEY HAVE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE SECOND ONE IS OPERATORS AND MOD BUILDING STRUCTURES OR THOSE IN CONTAINERIZED UNITS OR IN NATURE.
MODULAR HOUSES ARE A THING OF THE FUTURE.
MODULAR HOUSES ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING, JUST GOING RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHERE YOU MANUFACTURE THE, UH, EXTERIOR, THE INTERIOR WALLS.
AND YOU TAKE IT OUT TO THE JOB SITE.
PUT IT ON THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION.
WELL, LET, LET ME THROW SOMETHING OUT.
WHY EVEN HAVE THIS HAVE HAVE ANY, ANY EXCLUSION? YEAH.
WHY? WELL, SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE WITH THE MOBILE PARK.
I I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU THE ONE, THE ONE THAT I TOTALLY ASKED TO AGREE WITH IS THE NON-OPERATIONAL STRUCTURED.
BUT WE CAN DECIDE THAT WE, WE CAN DECIDE THAT THE SHELL BUILDING, UM, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE ONE AT A TIME.
YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? YES SIR.
THEN LET'S TABLE, LET'S, LET'S LET JUST WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
WITH PAST THIS, WITH THAT BEING TAKEN OUT.
NO, I'M SAYING NOT EVEN PAST THIS.
WHY HAVE IT? I THINK THE REASON WE HAVEN'T BEEN HAVING NO, WE DON'T.
I THINK THE REASON THAT WE HAVE IT FOR PROPOSED IS TO MAKE THE JOB OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM EASIER.
I THINK SOMETHING TONY'S A WISE MAN.
IF TONY COMES ACROSS SOMETHING HE THINKS OF VALUE TO THIS CITY, LET HIM BRING IT TO US HERE.
CAN I, YOU GOOD WITH THAT? CAN I, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AND YOU CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, BUT I'M THINKING WHY EVEN DO IT CAN BECAUSE WE CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
WHAT IF SOMETHING COMES ALONG AND IT'S AGAINST THIS, WE CAN OVERRIDE IT.
WELL, STATE LAW ACTUALLY REQUIRES IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A TAX ABATEMENT ON EITHER THE PROPERTY ITSELF OR THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, THAT YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL TAX ABATEMENT POLICY IN PLACE FIRST.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR I CAN CAN WE PASS, CAN WE MAKE, MAKE THE, THE MOTION PULL THIS ONE OFF THE AGENDA AND MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE EXCLUSION.
IF, IF YOU DON'T WANT THE EXCLUSIONS, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TO I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS.
BUT FOLKS, WHY TAKE WE HAVE TOOLS
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IN OUR TOOLBOX.UM, WE HAVE, WE WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS AS THEY COME UP.
IF IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T, I DON'T SEE I'M TON STARTED TO DO.
UH, SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL MEMBER? HAW? I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT YOUR MOTION DOES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS TONY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, YES MA'AM.
UM, THIS IS REGARDING ITEM 10.
THERE'S A COUPLE TYPOS IN IT AND I HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION I'D THAT TO GIVE YOU.
IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
IN ITEM 10, WE HAVE SPECIFIC WORDING FOR YOU MAY APPROACH.
TELL US ALL, TELL US WHAT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
THE EFFECTIVE, HE ASKED WHAT THE TYPOS WERE.
THERE WAS, UH, THE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS CHANGED TO FEBRUARY 1ST.
UM, THERE WAS SCRIBNER'S ERRORS WHERE THE WRITTEN AND THE PARENTHESES DID NOT MATCH AND THERE WAS A SECTION THAT WAS REMOVED.
IT WAS, UM, IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURES THAT WAS NOT BEING CHANGED IN THE ORDINANCE.
I'LL PASS IT BACK TO THE MAYOR.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A CLOSE SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 5 1 SUB CHAPTER D OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE VTCA TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING TONIGHT.
ITEM TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY.
ITEM FIVE, SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS TILL SIX 30.
COUNCIL WILL MEET IN THE ROOM RIGHT HERE AFTER WE GET SOME FOOD AND TAKE IT IN THERE TO EAT.
SEE Y'ALL IN THE ROOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.