* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM] [00:00:03] ALRIGHT, WELL IT'S FIVE 30. I'M GONNA KEEP US ON TIME, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UM, STAFF BRIEFING. WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEAL FOR THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 15TH, 2025. I AM KIMBERLY KEN DOYE, CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THIS STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:30 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND PREVIEWS, THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THIS BRIEFING. I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. UM, AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE. KIMBERLY AKIM. HERE. CHRISTOPHER DAY WOLF. HERE. SHERA HACKETT. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. ANTHONY LANGSTON. HERE. STACY WHITE. HERE. ANNA COCA. HERE. DEBBIE JOHNSTON. HERE. CJ RAMIREZ. MELINDA ROGERS. HERE. JONATHAN HEAD. ERIC KADE. AND VIVIAN MORRIS? YES. PLEASE CHECK MY CHECK OFFICE. OH, IS IT NOT ON? LET ME SEE HERE. TURN ON MY, OKAY. IS THAT BETTER? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? NO, HE STARTED WE HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD PROJECTING VOICE, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S BEING OH, OKAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO IT, IT NOW WENT MUTED, BUT IT WAS NOT MUTED DURING YOUR YEAH. MY, MY MIC, MY THING KEEPS TURNING ON. ONLY THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WELL, LET'S WORK THIS OUT. IT HAS HER NAME ON IT, BUT SO COULD YOU SPEAK OKAY. REQUEST. HEAR IT NOW. OKAY. YES. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OKAY. PERFECT. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE NOTES ITSELF BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. STAFF. UH, PLEASE. UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND PRESENT. UH, YOU GOT ONE EXTRA . OH, HEY, CJ. HEY, CJ. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE 10 AGAIN, . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MELINDA. WE APPRECIATE YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS. MERRY CHRISTMAS. SALVADOR, YOU'RE OUT. YES. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, SEAN. I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. UM, JUST TO START OFF WITH A FEW THINGS, UH, UH, OUR LEGAL TEAM WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT MICROPHONE. SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE TRY TO LEAN INTO YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING. THAT WAY WE CAN CAPTURE ALL THE AUDIO AND EVERYONE'S BEAUTIFUL VOICE. THAT WAY, UH, WHEN WE ARE RECORDING THESE MEETINGS, EVERYONE CAN HEAR IN CASE WE NEED TO GO BACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY? SO JUST TRY TO LEAN IN AND MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS WORKING. UM, AND IF NOT, LET US KNOW, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET STARTED TONIGHT WITH THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO. THIS IS ZBA TWO FIVE DASH 11 DASH SEVEN. THIS IS VARIANCES SUICIDE YARD SETBACK AND MINIMUM LIVING AREA FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 3 1 4 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE. THIS IS LOCATED CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. AND SO ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL, GENERAL SITE LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY. UH, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED, SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL, AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A NEW SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION. AGAIN, THE VARIANCES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING ARE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO REDUCE IT AND TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA. AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY AS TO WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS. SO FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE FROM WHERE YOU'RE SITTING, BUT ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE, UH, KIND OF A AERIAL IMAGE OF THAT HOUSE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT WAS, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED BY FIRE. UM, IT'S BEEN BURNED PRETTY BAD. AND SO THE, UH, APPLICANTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. THEY HAVE REMOVED THAT HOME. UM, AND SO THEY'RE COMING BACK TO BUILD THEIR HOME AGAIN. SO ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL SIDE PLAN OF THAT PROPERTY. UM, AND TO GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT, WE DO REQUIRE A SIX FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK. THAT'S THE DISTANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE FROM THE BUILDING TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET. AND THEN THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA, WHICH IS 2000 SQUARE FEET, MEANING, UH, IN THAT HOME, [00:05:01] YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TOTAL OF 2000 SQUARE FEET TO QUALIFY FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING FIVE FEET FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. AGAIN, ONCE, JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING THEY CAN ONLY PROVIDE FIVE FEET FROM WHERE THE HOME IS TO THE SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UH, 1,940 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 2000. AND THIS IS KIND OF A ELEVATION DRAWING AND FLOOR PLAN OF THAT PROPOSED PROJECT. AND SO STAFF DID TAKE A LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. UH, WE DID FIND THAT THE PROPOSED LIVING AREA, WHICH IS 1,940, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. AND ALTHOUGH WE CANNOT FIND, UH, EXISTING SIDE YARD SETBACKS FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, THE REQUESTED SIDE YARD REDUCTION ALLOWS FOR A HOME PLACEMENT THAT IS AESTHETICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THAT SAME BLOCK. AND SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PROPERTY IS TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HARDSHIP. UM, WITH YOU BEING ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, UH, IT IS VITAL AND CRUCIAL TO LOOK AT WHY SOMEONE IS REQUESTING TO VARIATE FROM OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARDS. AND SO, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE CONSTRAINTS, WHICH WOULD BE THE LOT SIZE THERE IS WHAT STAFF HAS FOUND A TRUE HARDSHIP. SO THE LOT AREA FROM THIS 1972 PLAT IS 7,187 SQUARE FEET. THE CURRENT STANDARDS FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE 8,400. AND SO THE LOT WIDTH WOULD BE 58 WITH THE LOT DEATH 120. THAT'S WHAT EXISTS NOW. GET NORTH ON NORTHWEST FOURTH STREET TOWARD COLLEGE STREET, THEN . OKAY, GO AHEAD SALVADOR. NO PROBLEM. AND THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS ARE 70 FEET FOR THE LOT WIDTH AND 120 FEET FOR THE LOG DEPTH. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BASICALLY THAT MEANS THAT AS THE LOT SITS RIGHT NOW, THERE WOULD BE RESTRAINTS ON THAT PROPERTY OWNER AND THE APPLICANT TO BUILD THEIR HOME THE WAY IT WAS. AND THIS IS BECAUSE ZONING STANDARDS OVER TIME WILL CHANGE, BUT THE LOT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT. THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO GO AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET OUR, YOUR NEW CITY STANDARDS, SO WE'RE GONNA REPLY IT EVERY TIME THAT WE UPDATE OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF TOUCHING ON THIS TOPIC A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THE SIZE OF THE PLATTED LAW PRECLUDES CONFORM CONFORMITY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS RESULTING IN A NON-SELF CREATED HARDSHIP. THAT'S JUST BASICALLY SUMMARIZING WHAT I WENT OVER. AND THE VARIANCE REQUESTS ARE NOT CONTRARY TO PUBLIC INTEREST. WITH THIS REGARD, 43 NOTICES WERE SENT TO ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN OPPOSED, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR A P. AND WITH THIS ITEM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 0 AS A REQUESTED, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. SALVADOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, CAN WE GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES FROM THE ONE YOU HAVE THIS ONE HERE? SURE. OKAY. SO, UM, THESE NUMBERS HERE, ARE THIS THE HOUSE SIZES, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON EACH OF THOSE HOUSES, CORRECT. THE LIVING AREA, YES. OKAY. SO NOW OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS DAMAGE TO THIS HOUSE. WHAT WAS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE EXISTING PRIOR TO, UH, THE DAMAGE? SORRY. UM, SO I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH MY NOTES, BUT I KNOW IT WAS COMPLIANCE WITH OUR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY THREE ZONING DISTRICT AT THAT TIME. AND SO, UH, I WANNA SAY IT WAS AROUND THE SAME 1940 1,940 SQUARE FEET. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE CITY HAS CREATED THIS HARDSHIP IN SOME WAYS. I THINK THE HARDSHIP HAS BEEN CREATED OVER TIME. NO, NO, I GOT IT. BUT THE CITY HAS, IN REALITY, THE CITY HAS CREATED THIS HARDSHIP ON THEM. THE, IT'S A HARDSHIP 'CAUSE THEIR HOUSE BURNED DOWN AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YES. BUT CITY ZONING CHANGES HAS ACTUALLY CREATED THIS HARDSHIP. YES. OUR CURRENT STANDARDS. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES. REAL QUICK. YES. UH, WE WOULDN'T BE SETTING ANY PRECEDENT TO OUR ARE SF THREES BY DOING THIS, CORRECT. ANY PRESS, AS IN SOMEBODY COULD COME BACK [00:10:01] TO US AND SAY, HEY, YOU DID THIS, BUT 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE COMING HERE. OKAY. TONIGHT FOR THE, FOR THE VARIANCE REQUEST. YES. PERFECT. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT ITEM BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT. THIS IS ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 1. THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION AT 1713 FORT WORTH STREET. AND THIS IS LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE. THIS PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY FOUR RESIDENTIAL, AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A GARAGE CONVERGING, EXCUSE ME, A GARAGE CONVERSION INTO A LIVING AREA, WHICH DOES REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXEMPTION GRANTED BY YOU BOARD MEMBERS. AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE LOOK AT, UM, IS THE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE REASON WHY THEY'RE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, IN ADDITION, IS BECAUSE OUR UDC SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO GARAGE PARKING SPACES. AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL LOCATION MAP OF THE CLOSEST LEGALLY, UM, CONVERTED GARAGE, UM, INTO A LIVING SPACE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE 300 FOOT BUFFER THAT WE REQUIRE. OTHERWISE, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, WE WOULD TRY TO PUSH IT THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS INSTEAD OF COMING TO THE BOARD. AND HERE'S SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. SO THE OVERALL AREA OF THAT HOUSE IS 856 SQUARE FEET. UM, THE GARAGE TAKING UP 231 SQUARE FEET OF THAT AND TO ADD ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS IS THE PURPOSE. AND ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE THAT GENERAL DRIVEWAY AS IT IS, AS WELL AS HOW THEY'RE PROPOSING IT. THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL FLOOR PLAN OF HOW IT IS NOW WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSED. SO YOU SEE IN PINK, THAT'S THE GARAGE AREA. AND THEN OF COURSE WITH THE PROPOSED THE BEDROOMS. AND THIS IS A STREET VIEW PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS NOW. SO JUST TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DETAILS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION IS APPROVED, THE TOTAL LIVING AREA WILL BE 1087 SQUARE FEET. AND THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS LONGEST BLOCK RANGE FROM 1,284 SQUARE FEET TO 2,200 SQUARE FEET. REGARDING THE ASSIGNMENT, 34 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN, OPPOSED, AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA OR PI. AND REGARDING ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 1 STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AS IS AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, CAN YOU BACK UP TO THE PICTURE OF THE HOME WITH THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT? YES. AND EXPLAIN THE PARKING SITUATION ONE MORE TIME TO ME, PLEASE. YES. SO THIS IS HOW IT IS NOW. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE THAT TANDEM PARKING. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANTS, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED TO US AND WE HAVE REVIEWED, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, MUCH MORE AMPLE PARKING SPACE WITH AN IMPROVED DRIVEWAY. I CAN LET THE APPLICANT GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT. UH, THEY ARE GONNA PUT IN A DRIVEWAY, A BETTER DRIVEWAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AFTER, BECAUSE I WAS LIKE 18 FEET, 41, YOU CAN PUT IN FOUR CARS, EASY. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THEIR, UM, PLANS THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . IS IT A CURRENTLY ONE, UH, CAR GARAGE RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING SINCE THAT YOU SAID IT REQUIRES TWO. SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? IT SAYS, UH, REQUIRE TWO PARKING SPACES. THAT'S THE OFF STREET PART. OH, OFF STREET. YEAH, OFF STREET. OKAY. YEAH. WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR TWO GARAGE PARKING SPOTS. HOWEVER, THAT'S IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW RESIDENCE AND THIS IS A EXISTING HOME, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY THAT TO THEM. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SALVADOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS. ALRIGHT, SO WE CAN TAKE A COMFORT BREAK. NOTHING IT 15 MINUTES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 6:00 PM I THINK WE'RE GOING GET STARTED. OKAY. [00:15:01] ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS MEETING OF DECEMBER 15TH, 2025. [Call to Order] I AM KIMBERLY A, UH, KEN RODIER, CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ? OH MY GOSH. I FEEL ALL FEEL BETTER TODAY. KIMBERLY A KEN RODIER . THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO 11.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT OF AN APPLICANT, AN APPLICATION ON ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE KIMBERLY A KEN DIER. HERE. CHRISTOPHER DE WOLF. HERE. SHERA HACKETT. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. ANTHONY LANGSTON. HERE. STACEY WHITE. HERE. ANNA COCA. HERE. CJ RAMIREZ. HERE. DEBBIE JOHNSTON. HERE. PERFECT. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. AND NOW WE'LL HAVE AN INVOCATION BY ANNA COCA. THANK YOU. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TOGETHER THIS EVENING. WE INVITE YOU TO PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING. EVEN IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, GIVE US UNITY OF SPIRIT. HELP US TO EACH LISTEN POLITELY AS OTHERS SHARE THEIR POINTS OF VIEW. HELP US TO WORK AS A UNIFIED TEAM IN COMBINING IDEAS FOR A GREAT OUTCOME. LORD, WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM AS WE MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS IN THIS MEETING. HELP US TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED. MAY THOSE SHARING INFORMATION GIVE US PERTINENT POINTS SO WE ALL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND. HELP US TO BE INNOVATIVE AS WE BRAINSTORM SOLUTIONS. HELP US TO WISELY EVALUATE ALL OPTIONS CONSIDERING THE PROS AND CONS. HELP US TO BE UN UNIFIED IN MAKING THE BEST, BEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS AND TO EFFECTIVELY CARRY THEM OUT. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. MEETING GUIDELINES IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. APPLICANTS WOULD HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN. EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT. STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING CITIZEN COMMENTS. OUR FIRST ACTION OF THE NIGHT WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025. IS THERE ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? IS THERE ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO WISHES SHOULD SPEAK? UH, OR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? I WILL NOW ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ON THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 MEETING. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025. SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BAKER AND A SECOND BY MR. LANGSTON. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [00:20:02] MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF 9 2 0. THIS BRINGS US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CASES LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND ITEM [2. ZBA-25-11-0070 (Council District 2) – Variances to the side yard setback and to the minimum living area permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 3314 Country Club Drive, legally described as Lot 4, Block 1, Park Valley Addition No. 3, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three (SF-3) District] ON THE AGENDA IS ZBA 25 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SALOR. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER TWO ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT. BOARD MEMBERS ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 0 VARIANCES TO SIDE YARD SETBACK AND MINIMUM LIVING AREA REQUESTS FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 33 14 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL AND ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TO DEVELOP A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT LOT AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES. ONE IS TO REDO THE SI, REDUCE THE SIDE YARD, SIT BACK, AND THE SECOND IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA. SO JUST SOME PROPERTY DETAILS. UH, THE PROPERTY WAS PLOTTED IN 1972 AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN, THE PROPERTY DID RECENTLY GO THROUGH SIGNIFICANT FIRE DAMAGE TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS, UH, DEMOED TO, UH, ALL THE WAY PAST THE, UH, FOUNDATION. AND IT IS CURRENTLY SITTING VACANT AND THEY ARE INTENDING TO BUILD A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UH, LIKE IT ONCE HAD ON THE PROPERTY. SO THE FIRST VARIANCE IS, UH, REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK. AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED DURING THE BRIEFING, THE SIDE YARD SETBACK IS THE MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND WHERE THE HOME SITS. AND THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA. SO RIGHT NOW WITH ARTICLE SIX, UH, REQUIREMENT IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, THE REQUIRED MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK IS SIX FEET. THEY'RE PROPOSING FIVE FEET AND THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA IS 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 1,940 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS TO HELP YOU, UH, GET A PICTURE OF HOW IT WOULD LOOK. THESE ARE SOME CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS AND, UH, PROPOSED FLOOR PLANS. AND SO LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOING SOME RESEARCH, STAFF DID FIND THAT THE PROPOSED LIVING AREA IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND STAFF COULD NOT VERIFY THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. HOWEVER, THE REQUESTED SIDE YARD SETBACKS, EXCUSE ME, THE REQUESTED SIDE YARD REDUCTION ALLOWS FOR A HOME PLACEMENT THAT IS AESTHETICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THE SAME BLOCK. MEANING WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE PROCESSED WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING AND WE CONCLUDED THAT IT WOULD NOT ALTER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY FORM OR WAY. AND TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF, UH, WE TALK ABOUT HARDSHIP, UH, MEANING IS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS CAUSING THEM TO REQUEST A VARIATION FROM OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, AND SO AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PROPERTY BURNING DOWN AND THE PROPERTY BEING PLANTED IN 1972, THE CURRENT STANDARD SIMPLY WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MEET WITH THE LOT SIZE, DEPTH, AND WIDTH. UM, AND THIS TABLE KIND OF EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING DENSITY SIX, OR EXCUSE ME, ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE LOTS. UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS IS SAYING THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LOT AND IF THEY WERE TO TRY TO BUILD A HOME, HOW IT IS NOW, OR EXCUSE ME, HOW IT WAS WHEN THEY BURNED DOWN, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WITH THAT SIDE YARD SETBACK AND MINIMUM LIVING AREA REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THIS ITEM, 43 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE. AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 0 AS A REQUESTED. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SALVADOR. THANK YOU. UH, YOU DID MENTION AT ONE POINT THAT THEY COULD NOT CONCEIVABLY RECREATE THE HOUSE THAT THEY HAD BA BASED ON THE LOT. UH, WHAT WAS, HOW DID THEY DETERMINE THAT? SO, LOOKING AT THE LOT THAT WAS PLANTED IN 1972, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD WHERE THE FOUNDATION WAS AND TO BUILD TO THAT MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF 2000 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULD JUST NOT FIT ON THAT LOT. THERE WOULD JUST BE TOO MUCH HOME FOR THE LOT TO FIT IN WITH THOSE SETBACKS. [00:25:01] THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT LOT SIZE, IT'S TOO CONSTRAINING, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME, UM, THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A HARDSHIP. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. UM, LESLIE HALL IS THE APPLICANT. HOWEVER, UM, IT IS NOTATED THAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO SPEAK ONLY IF NEEDED. SO IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA COME DOWN AND AND SPEAK OR NOT. OR DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? LESLIE, COME ON DOWN. CAN CAN I CONFER WITH SALVADOR FOR JUST A MOMENT? SURE. UM, SO WE DETERMINED THE PRINCIP IS NOT INFORMED TRUTH. THANK YOU. SO IT'S, IT'S ALRIGHT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ONLY IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED ME TO. SO, LESLIE, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS PAINTED YOU IN A COURT A LITTLE BIT. A LITTLE BIT. ALRIGHT, WELL, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM HERE FROM ME. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK AND DO THE RIGHT THING AND REBUILD AND YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING EXTRA. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO REBUILD HOLD, NOT DOING ANYTHING CRAZY. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A BEAUTIFUL HOME. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. YEAH. AND THE CITY'S THE ONE WHO'S CHANGED THE RULES HERE. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK WITH WHAT YOU HAD BASICALLY. THAT'S CORRECT. AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT YES. YEAH, AND YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO PAINT OUTSIDE THE LINES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK WITH WHAT YOU HAD AND MAKE IT NEWER AND NICER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CHANGED THE RULES AND YOU COULDN'T HELP THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS. RIGHT, YOU TOO. THANK YOU. SO SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE A QUESTION HERE. SO LET'S, YEAH. UM, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, UH, DO WE NORMALLY HAVE THE SPEAKERS IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY LIVE? I, I APOLOGIZE. MR. I'M, I'M LESLIE HALL. I LIVE AT 2129 GURDY DRIVE. THANK YOU. WE DO NEED THAT INFORMATION FOR THE RECORD. UNDERSTOOD. UNDERSTOOD. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, NOW THE, UH, H WHAT WAS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE PRIOR TO THE DAMAGE? I'M, I'M, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOME, WHEN I, WHEN I, EXCUSE ME. WHEN I BOUGHT THE LOT, THE FOUNDATION AND, AND THE HOUSE HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETELY CLEARED. UM, I CAN TELL YOU, UH, THAT I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT LOT. I HAVE, I BELIEVE THE SMALLEST LOT ON THAT STREET . SO, AND, AND MOST OF THE HOMES I, THE RESEARCH THAT I DID, THE HOMES ON THAT, ON MY, PARTICULARLY ON MY BLOCK, THEY'RE GONNA RANGE FROM 1,585 SQUARE FEET. UH, I THINK THE LARGEST ONE, UH, WAS 1957 SQUARE FEET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO HOMES THAT WERE ABOUT 2100 SQUARE FEET ON THE CORNER. BUT THOSE LOTS WERE 10 AND 12,000 SQUARE FEET COMPARED TO MY 71 OR 7,200 SQUARE FEET. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALL? OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK, THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE I OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION? OKAY. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION. MS. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 25 DASH ONE DASH OH OH SEVEN OH. SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FROM MS. COCA. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? OKAY. I'LL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE THE MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF NINE ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, THE THIRD ITEM ON OUR AGENDA [3. ZBA-25-11-0071 (Council District 5) – Special exception for a garage conversion permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1713 Fort Worth Street, legally described as a portion of Lot 4, Block 51, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four (SF-4) District] IS ZBA 25 DASH 11 DASH 0 7 1. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA, AGAIN, ZBA 25 11. SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION AT 1713 FORWARD STREET CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED SINGLE FAMILY FOUR RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS A GARAGE CONVERSION INTO A LIVING SPACE, AND THAT DOES REQUIRE SPECIAL EXCEPTION GRANTED FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS [00:30:04] ON SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL LOCATION MAP OF THE PROPERTY WITH A 300 FOOT BUFFER TO ATTACH PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A LEGALLY CONVERTED GARAGE INTO A LIVING SPACE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS STAFF TAKES A LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY GARAGE CONVERSIONS THAT ARE LEGAL WITHIN 300 FEET. IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WE CAN TYPICALLY PROCESS THEM THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IF THEY MEET OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN, THE TWO LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSIONS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY FAR AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY. SO THE HOME WAS BUILT, UH, IN 1947 WITH ABOUT 856 SQUARE FEET. THE GARAGE IS 231 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TO BUILD TO ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS IN THAT GARAGE SPACE. UM, THE DRIVEWAY IS ABOUT 18 FEET WIDE, 41 FEET LONG. AND, UH, THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMISSION, EXCUSE ME, NO BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT YET. SO THEY CAME THROUGH THE PROPERTY CHANNELS WANTING TO GET THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION. FIRST ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A FLOOR PLAN THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING ONE AND THE PROPOSED, THE PINK BEING THE EXISTING GARAGE, AND THEN THE PINK PROPOSED SHOWING THE TWO BEDROOMS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THAT GARAGE SPACE. AND THEN THIS IS A STREET VIEW IMAGE OF THAT HOME . SO JUST TO GO OVER SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS, IF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION IS APPROVED, THE TOTAL LIVING, TOTAL LIVING AREA WOULD BE 1087 SQUARE FEET AND PRIMARY STRUCTURES ALONG THIS BLOCK RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 1,284 SQUARE FEET TO 2,200 SQUARE FEET. REGARDING THIS ITEM, 34 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN TO POST. THERE IS NOT AN HOA OR PIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA 25 11 0 0 7 1 AS A REQUESTED. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE. DID YOU SAY THE, UH, PERMIT ALSO INCLUDED A DOUBLE GARAGE? I MEAN A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY? DOUBLE DRIVEWAY? THEY ARE PROPOSING A DRIVEWAY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ON THEIR SITE PLAN. THEY HAVE NOT FILED FOR THAT PERMIT APPLICATION JUST QUITE YET. OKAY. SO TODAY THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE APPROVING OR NOT APPROVING WOULD BE THE GARAGE CONVERSION UNLESS WE ADDED THAT IS CORRECT. MADAM CHAIR. AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING AND I'LL CLARIFY FOR THE BOARD AS WELL. SO TONIGHT, THE ONLY THING YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT IN APPROVING OR DENYING TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR THAT GARAGE CONVERSION. AFTER THAT, STAFF WILL GO AND DIRECT THE APPLICANT TO THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS WHERE THEY WILL APPLY FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE GARAGE CONVERSION AND THE DRIVEWAY IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THEN INSPECTED BY OUR CITY INSPECTORS. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN, CAN THEY NOT COME TO YOU WITH A DRIVEWAY AFTER WE GAVE THE GARAGE CONVERSION? CAN THEY COME BACK AND JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE DRIVEWAY NOW. SO I I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THE, TYPICALLY IF WE CANNOT HAVE A TWO CAR PAVING SPACE MM-HMM . AFTER THE GARAGE CONVERSION IN THE PAST, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED A DRIVEWAY TO BE WIDENED BECAUSE SOME OF THE HOMES BACK IN THE SEVENTIES WERE BUILT WITH ONE CAR GARAGE. BUT IN CASES WHERE THEY HAD A DRIVEWAY THAT WAS LONG ENOUGH TO PARK TWO CARS, TANDEM PARKING, WE DID NOT TRADITIONALLY PUT THAT REQUIREMENT THERE BECAUSE WIDER DRIVEWAY IS NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS POSITIVE, UH, BECAUSE IT REDUCES RUNOFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HERE, I BELIEVE THE, UH, APPLICANT HAS INDICATED 18 TO SAY THAT THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY WIDEN THEIR EXISTING DRIVEWAY, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY MEETING TWO OFF STREET CAR PARKING REQUIREMENT WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, STEPH YEAH, STEPH DOES NOT FEEL THE NEED TO ADD THAT AS A CONDITION. SO TO C CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION, ONLY TIME THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO, UH, PAINT A DRIVEWAY IS IF WE PUT IMPOSE THAT CONDITION ON THEIR CBA APPROVAL. IN THIS CASE, WE ARE DO NOT HAVE THAT CONDITION BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH FURTHER THE DRIVEWAY UNLESS WE IMPOSE THAT. I'M SORRY. UNLESS WE IMPOSE THAT. CORRECT. BUT, UM, STEPH DID NOT ADD THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED. UNDERSTAND. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO THAT I UNDERSTAND. BUT COUNSELOR, WE CAN IMPOSE THAT. YES, YOU CAN. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, MR. JOSE ANDRE ANDREY. OKAY, COME ON DOWN. [00:35:12] HI, GOOD EVENING. HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME. BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, DO YOU MIND, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. OKAY. MY NAME IS JOSE ANDRA. I LIVE IN, UH, 26 0 6 SYRACUSE DRIVE, URBAN TEXAS 7 5 0 6 2. I BUY THE HOME, UM, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO, MONTHS OR TWO MONTHS AGO. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY TWO BEDROOMS, SO IT'S VERY SMALL AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T TRY TO USE THE GARAGE AND ALSO ALREADY SUBMIT A PERMIT FOR A WHY THE, THE DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. SO FOUR CAR SPACES. OKAY. UM, IN, IN THE GARAGE. CONVERGE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION. IF WE ATTACH TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS WITH THE, UH, DOUBLE WIDE DRIVE, LIKE, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? YES. OKAY. I ALREADY, I FIGURED IT PROBABLY WOULD BE. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE. YES. I ALREADY APPLIED WITH FOR THE TRAVEL. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. AND I FIGURED YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD GUY, GO AND DO THAT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS OKAY WITH YOU ON THAT. YES. I ALSO ALREADY APPLIED FOR, UH, ANOTHER, UH, RESTROOM IN THE HOUSE. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO, UM, FOR THE OUTSIDE, WHERE THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GONNA KEEP ALL AT THE SAME, ARE YOU JUST CONVERTING JUST THE INSIDE AND THE OUTSIDE IS STILL GONNA LOOK LIKE A GARAGE DOOR FROM THE OUTSIDE? WELL, NO, I'M, UM, I'M TRYING TO TAKE IT OUT THE DOOR, THE GARAGE DOOR AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT, UH, TWO WINDOWS OUTSIDE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, COVER WITH, UH, SIDING, NEW SIDING ALSO, I HAVE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FOR, UM, UH, REPLACE COMPLETE, UH, WHOLE SIDING OUTSIDE. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. YEAH, WE'VE SEEN IT. I'VE HEARD IT ALL. WHERE SOME PEOPLE LEAVE IT, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR MOTIONS. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THERE'LL BE CLOSED AND APPROVE ZBA TWO FIVE DASH ONE DASH 0 7 1 AS PRESENTED BY BOARD WITH AN ADDENDUM OF ADDING A DOUBLE DRIVE FOR CARS. UH, MR. BAKER, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU ADD THAT ADDENDUM, IF SOMEHOW THEIR PERMIT FOR THE DOUBLE DRIVEWAY GETS DENIED, THEY MAY HAVE TO COME BACK, AMEND THE CONDITION, THAT'S FINE. DO YOU WANNA PROCEED PROCEEDS? OKAY, I SECOND IT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FROM MR. LANGSTON. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT SHOULD BE ATTACHED. UH, YEAH, I DON'T THOSE OUTSIDE OF CODE. UM, AND HE, HE MIGHT HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF US. THIS COULD INTERRUPT HIS PLAN PRETTY HEAVILY. UM, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THAT OFF. OKAY. THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US. WE'RE ADDING A HARDSHIP TO HIM. UH, I ALSO AGREED TO REMOVE THE ATTACHMENT. UM, AND MY WONDERING WOULD BE DO WE HAVE TO, UH, RETRACT MOTION? I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. I CAN, I CAN MAKE A NEW MOTION. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. MAKE A MO NEW MOTION. I I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA TWO FIVE DASH ONE DASH 0 7 1 AS, UH, SENT TO US BY COUNSEL. SECONDED. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FOR MR. LANGSTON. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? OKAY. I LIKE THIS ONE BETTER. . THAT'S OKAY. I WANT IT TO PASS. OKAY. I'LL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. I, I THINK HE'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND PUT IT IN, SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. YEAH, THE MOTION PASSES BY VOTE OF NINE ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, , THIS BRINGS US TO OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS, [00:40:01] SO I WILL CONCLUDE THE MEETING. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS. MERRY CHRISTMAS MER. MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.