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THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR
[1. Presentation 2026 General Obligation Program]
FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.WE'D REALLY LIKE TO THANK YOU.
UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE AS WELL DURING TONIGHT'S SESSION.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP IN PREPARING FOR THE MAY, 2026 BOND ELECTION.
IT ALIGNS WITH COUNCIL PRIORITIES, INFRASTRUCTURES, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE BOND PROGRAM CONTINUES MOMENTUM MOVING FORWARD.
STAFF HAS PREPARED A DRAFT LIST BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND SEEKING ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AND ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO REFINE, ALIGN, AND CONFORM TO OUR CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES.
AS A REMINDER, IF THE MEASURES DON'T PASS, THE CITY CANNOT ISSUE DEBT FOR THAT MEASURE FOR THREE YEARS FOR THE SAME PROJECT.
BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM TONIGHT, THE LIST WILL BE INTRODUCED TO THE PUBLIC AT THE DECEMBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND AGAIN ON THE JANUARY 6TH COUNCIL MEETING.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TAL VO TO BEGIN, MAYOR COUNCIL TVO MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE MAY 26.
UH, WE'LL BE REVIEWING THE DRAFT LIST OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UH, FOR THE GO BOND PROJECTS FOR ONCE AGAIN THE MAY, 2026 ELECTION.
WE'RE HERE TO TAKE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, ANY, ANY THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR REMOVED.
TONIGHT'S AGENDA, OH, APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS LATIA COLEMAN, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES OVER DEBT, AND SHE WILL BE SPEARHEADING THIS PROJECT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE, THE BOND CALENDAR, UM, INCLUDING TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UH, THEN WE WILL REVIEW THE CITY'S DEBT CAPACITY.
AFTER THAT, WE WILL BE GOING BY THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS BY CATEGORY, WHICH INCLUDES STREET PROJECTS, PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, AND COMMUNITY COMMUNITY-BASED PROJECTS.
AFTERWARDS, WE'LL SEE WHAT NEXT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY DISCUSSIONS YOU HAVE BY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
THIS IS, UM, A HIGH LEVEL CALENDAR OF THE GEO BOND PROCESS.
UM, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT AT DECEMBER, SECOND VISIONING SESSION.
NEXT, WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, DECEMBER 16TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE PRESENTING THIS LIST TO THE PUBLIC BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE OBTAINED FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A SECOND MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC ON JANUARY 6TH AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING ON JANUARY 20TH THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE LIST OF ADOPT FOR PRO PROJECTS.
SO WE WILL ADOPT ON THAT DATE AND WE WILL HAVE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, DURING THE TIME UNTIL WE HAVE THE ELECTION.
WE HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE BOND ELECTION ON FEBRUARY 3RD BY CALLING THE BOND ELECTION.
AND THEN THE BOND ELECTION WILL BE ON MAY 2ND.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE CURRENT DEBT CAPACITY, UH, FOR THE 2025 TAX YEAR, UH, SUPPORTS THE RNS RATE OF 0.2 1 7 5 7 5.
AND OUR CURRENT OUTSTANDING DEBT, UH, PRINCIPAL AMOUNT IS 537 MILLION, WITH INTEREST OF ABOUT 170 MILLION.
UM, THAT AVERAGES OUT TO BE ABOUT 48 MILLION PER YEAR, UH, FOR EXISTING DEBT, NOT INCLUDING ANY NEW DEBT THAT WE WOULD GENERALLY ADD.
THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS VISUALLY, UM, THE OUTSTANDING PAYMENTS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR INTEREST IN PRINCIPAL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT DECREASES AS WE MAKE ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS AND WE, IF WE DON'T ADD ANY NEW DEBT.
SO IN TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS, WE HAD TO COME UP WITH SOME SCENARIOS AND THE SCENARIO DETAILS ARE, UM, WE HAD TO CALCULATE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN THERE.
SO WE ARE ASSUMING, UH, GROWTH TAXABLE VALUES OF APPROXIMATELY 3%, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME OTHER CALCULATIONS OF, BASED ON THE CURRENT INTEREST RATES.
UM, WE DO HAVE THIS PROGRAM BEING SPELLED OUT FOR 10 YEARS.
SO IT'S A 10 YEAR PROGRAM OF $335 MILLION AS PROPOSED.
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AND THAT WOULD YIELD A TAX RATE, AN ADDITIONAL TAX RATE NEEDED OF 3.99 CENTS.AND THAT IS BASED ON OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IN ADDITION TO OUR CURRENT TAX RATE, WHICH IS 66 CENTS.
UM, SO BASICALLY KEEP THOSE PROPOSED SCENARIOS IN MIND.
UM, WE ARE MODELING EVERYTHING BASED ON CURRENT INTEREST RATE MODELS, SO WE ARE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND JUST ONCE AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE ARE SEEKING AT THE ELECTION IS AUTHORIZATION.
WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ISSUING $33.5 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS.
UH, YOU'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL, AUTHORIZATION TO, TO, UH, ISSUE DEBT.
AND AGAIN, ON THE, UM, ADDITIONAL TAX RATE, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
EVERY YEAR WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED A TAX INCREASE, BUT BASED ON THIS PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT NEEDED.
SO WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND THEN THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES.
UH, IF YOU CAN LOOK, THE THREE PRIMARY CATEGORIES ARE GOING TO BE STREETS AS THE LARGEST, UH, GROUPING AT ABOUT 210 MILLION PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, ABOUT 87 MILLION AND COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS, ABOUT 39 MILLION FOR THE TOTAL OF 335 MILLION.
QUESTION, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'LL BE GOING OVER IN EACH CATEGORY, THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THAT WE'LL, AND WE WILL HAVE THE BREAKOUT OF WHAT ALL THAT.
UM, THE TOTAL, UM, THE TAX RATE IMPACT AS PROPOSED.
UH, THE TOTAL AMOUNT, IF THE 335 MILLION IS AUTHORIZED, UH, WILL HAVE AN IMPACT OF 3.99 CENTS OVER THE CURRENT TAX RATE OF 66 CENTS PER $100 OF VALUATION.
UH, THE STREETS PORTION IS ABOUT $2, UH, 2.50 CENTS.
PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION IS 1.03 CENTS.
AND COMMUNITY BASED IS 0.46 CENTS INCREASE IF ALL OF THE PROJECTS ARE APPROVED.
SO THIS NEXT SECTION, ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL BE GOING OVER WHAT CONSTITUTES EACH, UM, GROUPING.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
YES, THIS SECTION IS THE STREETS PROJECTS.
UM, AGAIN, AS TAO SAID THAT, UM, ABOUT $210 MILLION.
SO EACH SLIDE WE'LL HAVE INDIVIDUAL VISUALLY SHOW THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, THE DISTRICT, UH, THE TIMELINE AND THE TAX RATE IMPLICATION.
SO FOR THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE STREETS CATEGORY, WE HAVE LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY BRIDGE AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
QUESTION HERE, IF I DON'T MIND, JOHN, ON YOUR, BUT WHEN WE WERE AT TML, WE MET WITH STEVE AND HE INFORMED US THAT WE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM WALTER.
I DUNNO IF YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM FOR 37 MINUTES.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
SO WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT GRANT IS STILL PENDING.
BUT I'M JUST ASKING, HAVE Y'ALL HAD CONVERSATIONS AS FAR OTHER THAN THAT, AS FAR AS, BECAUSE AT THE TIME YOU, WE WERE SHUT DOWN, RIGHT? YEAH.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA BE AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, UH, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THAT LATER ON TONIGHT ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED.
I'LL WAIT AND JUST ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION.
IF THERE'S ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES, WE WOULD JUST NOT ISSUE THE DEBT FOR THIS AMOUNT.
COULD YOU REALLOCATE
SO YOU CAN RECEIVE AUTHORIZATION BUT NOT, UM, ISSUE THAT DEBT.
SO IF WE HAVE THE GRANT INSTEAD, WE, WE JUST WON'T ISSUE THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE DEBT.
SO ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, IT WOULDN'T BE VOTED ON SEPARATE? WE HAVEN'T, UM, DEPENDING ON COUNSEL'S DIRECTION AS AS OF RIGHT NOW.
YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, IT WOULDN'T, NO, SIR.
WE COULD SPLIT IT OUT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT VOTED ON SEPARATELY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANT US TO KNOW AS WE GO THROUGH THIS IS, UM, WHAT'S BEING VOTED ON SEPARATELY AND, AND IF THE WHOLE 200 AND WHATEVER MILLION FOR THE WHATEVER WE'RE ON NOW, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL FOR WHAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW? 209 MILLION 2 0 9? YES.
ARE Y'ALL THINKING WE'D GO FOR ALL 2 0 9 AT ONCE, NOT BREAK ANY OF THAT OUT? THAT'S THE CURRENT OUTLOOK.
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THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE WANT.WE CAN CHANGE IT AND VOTE ON 10 MILLION AT TIME.
BUT RIGHT NOW, YOUR PLAN IS ALL 209 AT ONCE.
THE LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY BRIDGE IN PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IS TO ADD A PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACCESS TO THE BRIDGE AND REBUILD THE ROADWAY IN BETWEEN THE BRIDGES.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN DISTRICT FOUR AND SIX, TOTAL COST 66 MILLION TAX RATE IMPACT OF ABOUT 0.01 CENTS.
NOW, WHEN YOU SAY REBUILD, NOT WIDEN, REBUILD.
IS THAT TEARING DOWN AND BUILDING AND HOLDING LANE? EXPLAIN THAT.
THE ROAD BETWEEN THE TWO BRIDGES WOULD BE A RECONSTRUCT OF THE CONCRETE.
'CAUSE THE CONCRETE, SOME OF THAT, AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF REPAIRS.
SO I MEAN, IT IS TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD YES.
THIS IS FOR THE, JUST THE ROADWAY BETWEEN RIGHT.
IT'S ALSO ADDING THE PIPELINE ON THE BRIDGES RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE BRIDGES.
IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO GO ACROSS THE YEAH, UH, LAKE AND TAKING CARE OF THE ROAD IN BETWEEN.
THE SECOND STREETS PROJECT, SO STREETS PROJECT NUMBER TWO IS WEST AND EAST SHADY GROVE BETWEEN NORTH BELTLINE ROAD TO ROY ORA BOULEVARD, TOTAL PROJECT COST 25.8 MILLION.
THE POTENTIAL TAX RATE IMPACT IS 0.0030.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL TAX RATE IMPACT OF THE 2 0 9 ALTOGETHER? AND THAT WOULD BE 2.50 CENTS CENTS.
AND THAT WILL BE, AS Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE LISTED.
SO BY, SO ON THAT IT'S GONNA INCREASE YOUR TAXES, 2.1, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THEN YOU VOTE THAT UP OR DOWN? YES.
THERE'S SPECIFIC VERBIAGE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE BOX.
I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW IT'S SCREWED.
UH, STREETS PROJECT NUMBER THREE IS WEST JEFFERSON STREET BETWEEN SOUTH GREAT SOUTH, GREAT.
SOUTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST 14TH STREET.
AND THE PROJECT IS 26 MILLION.
UM, AND THE TAX RATE IMPACT IS 0.0031.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT, THIS DOES HAVE A WATER WASTEWATER COMPONENT, WHICH IS NOT FUNDED HERE, BUT IT WILL BE PREDICATED ON THAT ALSO.
WE ONLY LISTED THE GL FUNDED AMOUNTS.
WOULD WE DO THE OTHER, IF THE GO FUNDED AMOUNT DOESN'T GET APPROVED? NO, SIR.
YOU WANT QUESTION? NO, ASK THEM.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT, UH, THAT WAS PART OF THE TAKE BACK OF MAIN STREET THAT WE HAD TO IMPROVE JEFFERSON TO THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
THIS IS THE PART IN BETWEEN, IT'S A PORTION OF IT.
UH, BECAUSE AS YOU REMEMBER, WE GOT THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN WE GOT ALL THE JEFFERSON BETWEEN OUR, OUR CITY LIMITS.
SO THE, THE PARTS THAT ARE PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE REVITALIZATION OF UPGRADING OF MAIN STREET IS THE PART OF CARRIER STREET.
AND THEN THE PART FROM UH, UH, UH, GRAY SOUTHWEST TO 23RD IS ALSO INCLUDED.
THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF THE REST OF JEFFERSON STREET, INCLUDING SOME ISSUES ON, UH, ON, ON JEFFERSON STREET.
SO WHEN WE ARE FINISHED WITH ALL OF IT, JEFFERSON WILL BASICALLY BE A NEW STREET THE ENTIRE LENGTH.
SO THE PART FROM LIKE CHEROKEE OR WHEREVER IT IS TO CARRIER THAT'S CURRENTLY ASPHALT YES.
IS PART OF THE THE TAKE BACK THING.
AND THE PART FROM 23RD SOUTH, FROM GREAT SOUTHWEST TO 23RD IS PART OF THAT.
BUT THE PARDON IN THE MIDDLE IS NOT, IS THAT YOU'RE TELLING THAT'S CORRECT.
ALL OF IT MAKES THAT MAKES LESS THAN NO SENSE TO ME.
YOU DO BOTH ENDS AND LEAVE THE MIDDLE OUT.
SO STREET'S PROJECT NUMBER FOUR IS NORTH AND NORTHWEST CARRIER PARKWAY.
IN BETWEEN HIGHWAY 1 61 SERVICE ROAD TO HIGHWAY 360 SERVICE ROAD, THIS WILL BE A ROADWAY REPAIR MILL, ASPHALT AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 19 MILLION WITH A TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0 CENTS.
BACK TO TONY'S QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER DEAL.
THE PART, LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE BOND PACKAGE.
JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT HAVE WE COMMITTED TO TECH STOCK, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE TURN TO DO THE TURN BACK? OR IS THAT JUST A REQUEST
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THAT WE TRY TO IMPROVE? JEFFERSON? WE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO TECH STOCK WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS TURN BACK.HOW ARE WE FUNDING THAT PART? SEALS.
SEALS NOT IN PART OF THIS PACKAGE.
NO, THERE'S SO WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING PART OF, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE PROMISED TICKS THAT WE WOULD DO.
THERE'S ONE PIECE OF JEFFERSON THAT IS PART OF THIS PACKAGE THAT IS PART OF WHAT TPO IS, IS ASKING FOR.
SO WHAT IF THIS FAILS THEN WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON DOING THAT WITHIN THREE YEARS ANYWAY.
WE WERE GONNA PUSH IT TO THE END.
BUT IT WON'T INTERFERE WITH OUR TURN BACK.
THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION.
WE'RE FULFILLING OUR, THE RULES OF TURN BACK.
AND HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT? EVERYTHING BESIDES THAT ONE PIECE OF COS AND TEXAS TEX STOCK GRANTS AND, AND LOANS.
IT'S A, THAT'S FOR THE TURN BACK FINANCE, ALL OF THAT WHOLE THING.
BUT WE WORKED IT, BUT WE WORKED IT OUT WHERE WE WERE ONLY GOING TO DO TWO ENDS OF IT AND THE MIDDLE WASN'T GOING GET DONE.
SIR, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
COUNCILMAN O SHOTWELL, THAT'S WHAT THE T DO AND COG AGREED TO ASSIST US IN THE PAYMENT FOR IS THE PART THAT THEY WANTED DONE, WHICH WAS THESE TWO SEGMENTS.
THE ONE SEGMENT THAT THIS REPRESENTS IS THE ONE THAT'S IN BETWEEN THAT THEY SAID BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR OURSELVES IF WE WERE GONNA DO IT.
SO WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE AROUND THAT? PAYING FOR THE POOL, THE WHOLE WHY DID GUESS TDO DIDN'T REQUIRE US TO DO IT, FORTUNATELY.
RIGHT? THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR TURNBACK WAS MET WITH TDOT MONEY AND WITH COG MONEY, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS NOT PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
THIS PIECE OF STREET WAS THAT PART.
AND WE DIDN'T GET MONEY FROM COG AND RTC IN T PARK.
WE WANT IT DONE IS WHAT IT BOIL DOWN TO.
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE, THE, THE PORTIONS OF JEFFERSON STREET THAT IS PART OF THIS ALREADY SIX LANES, THE PART THAT WAS ON TURNBACK, THE, THE WESTERN PART IS ON JEFFERSON'S WHERE WE HAD TO WIDEN THAT OUT.
THAT'S WHY THEY THREW IT IN THERE.
FROM CHEROKEE TO CARRIERS ALREADY SIX LANES CHEROKEE TO 1 61 IS THE PART THAT'S ASPHALT, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE CONVERTING THE CONCRETE IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THE TRUCK TRACK.
I'M SORRY, IT'S ALREADY SIX LANES.
IT'S SIX LANES, BUT IT'S AN ASPHALT AND IT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.
AND WHAT WE DETERMINED VERY EARLY ON IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC.
STREETS PROJECT NUMBER FIVE IS AURORA ORA BOULEVARD FROM NORTHWEST CARRIER PARKWAY TO IRVING CITY LIMITS.
THIS IS A ROADWAY REPAIR AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 17 MILLION.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO FOUR? PROJECT NUMBER FOUR? YES.
SO STREETS PROJECT NUMBER FOUR IS THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST CARRIER PARKWAY FROM HIGHWAY 1 61 SERVICE ROAD TO HIGHWAY 360 SERVICE ROAD CARRIER.
IS THAT OUR THAT'S NOT THE WILDLIFE PARK.
WHERE CARRIER MAKES THE TURN 360.
PROJECT NUMBER UH, SIX IS WEST WESTCHESTER PARKWAY BETWEEN SOUTH CARRIER PARKWAY TO ROBINSON ROAD.
THIS IS A ROADWAY REPAIR AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
$3 MILLION IS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WITH A TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0 CENTS.
PROJECT NUMBER SEVEN, SOUTHWEST THIRD STREET BETWEEN WEST PHILLIP COURT TO WEST MAIN STREET.
THIS IS A ROADWAY REPAIR MILL AND ASPHALT AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 7.2 MILLION.
TONY, WE'LL GET THE SLIDE UPDATED.
THE PHILLIPS COURT PART IS SOUTH OF GRAMLEY OR WHATEVER DOWN WOULD BE, BUT NOT MUCH.
A LITTLE BITTY TINY PIECE OF IT IS HAD DISTRICT THREE ON WE NO, Y'ALL DID.
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ROAD AND NOT EVEN A WHOLE ROAD.PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT IS SOUTH CARRIER PARKWAY BETWEEN WEST JEFFERSON STREET TO DICKEY ROAD.
THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS APPROXIMATELY 7 MILLION WITH A TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0 CENTS STREET.
PROJECT NUMBER NINE WE ROBERT STREET BETWEEN SOUTHWEST 14TH STREET TO SO GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY SITTING IN ENHANCED STREET QUALITY.
WE'RE REMOVING ASPHALT AND REPLACING IT WITH CONCRETE.
TOTAL PROJECT COSTS 6.8 MILLION TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0 CENTS STREET.
PROJECT NUMBER 10 IS WEST AND EAST HARRAN ROAD BETWEEN DUNCAN PERRY ROAD TO NORTHEAST 15TH STREET.
THIS IS AGAIN A ROADWAY REPAIR MILL, ASPHALT AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
$13 MILLION IS THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST WITH A TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0.0015 STREETS.
PROJECT NUMBER 11 IS NORTH CARRIER PARKWAY.
BETWEEN DOWARD STREET TO HILL STREET.
THIS IS ROADWAY REPAIR MILL ASPHALT AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
TOTAL PROJECT COST 2.2 MILLION TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0 CENTS.
AND THE FINAL STREET PROJECT IS WEST AND EAST MARSHALL DRIVE SOUTH BETWEEN SOUTHEAST 14TH STREET TO THE ARLINGTON CITY LIMITS.
THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ESTIMATED AT $16.5 MILLION.
THE TAX RATE IMPACT IS 0.0020.
UM, WALTER, DO YOU REALLY THINK FROM OR 14TH STREET TO THIRD STREET THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE PAID THAT BLACKTOP SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
WE DID A VERY THIN ASPHALT OVERLAY ON THAT TO KIND OF BIAS TIME BECAUSE THE, UH, THE BASE, THE BASE WHEN YOU GET UP UNDER THERE IS STILL IN NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.
SO YES, IT DOES NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED.
SO THIS ONE HERE, I'M SPLITTING IT WITH TWO OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO IT'S A LITTLE OVER 5 MILLION THAT I GET IN MY DISTRICT, BUT DISTRICT ONE GETS OVER A HUNDRED MILLION.
HELL, I'VE GOT THE SECOND OLDEST DISTRICT.
HOW IS DISTRICT ONE GETTING 20 PLUS TIMES MORE THAN ME? HOW'D Y'ALL COME UP WITH THESE STREETS, JESSE? THAT'S THE EASY QUESTION.
WE TRIED TO LOOK AT IT, SPREADING IT OUT AS MUCH AS WE COULD WHILE ALSO TRYING TO LOOK AT THE WORST STREETS, THE MOST VISIBLE STREETS.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA PICK ELECTION STREETS THAT ARE HIGH, HEAVY TRAFFIC, HEAVY USE.
SO THIS IS ALL JUST PROPOSED PROJECTS.
IF THERE'S OTHER STREETS, I MEAN THAT'S BECAUSE I CAN GIVE GIVE YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST SHOT OF THE PAST.
STREETS ARE IN WORSE CONDITION THAN BETWEEN THIRD AND ON MARSHALL.
BETWEEN THIRD AND AND CARRIER.
THERE'S ONE JUST THE NEXT ON DICKEY JUST NORTH OF THAT COUNCIL.
WHETHER BUT
WHAT STREETS? I DON'T WISH WE HAD A HALF
THE WEIRD WHAT WHAT THE FOCUS HERE WAS, RIGHT? IS TO COLLECTORS LARGER STREETS THAT CARRY THE HEAVIER AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE FOCUSING THERE RIGHT NOW.
THE STREETS THAT YOU'RE HAVING CONCERNS WITH, WE WOULD PROBABLY ISSUE COS AND USE THE COURTEND SALES TAX TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AS WE'RE DOING WITH SMALL HILL STREET, WHICH IS ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL WANTED US TO ADDRESS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH SMALL HILL.
THAT'S WHY SMALL HILL IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PACKET.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHEN THAT COMES AROUND, TONY AND I WILL GET THE BEAT WITH THAT THOUGH.
OH, AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, THE, IT LOOKS LIKE ON THIS LIST THAT THEY'RE ALL FOUR LANES OR GREATER.
THEY'RE ALL COLLECTORS OR COLLECTORS.
SO WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY, ANY OF THE OLDER RESIDENTIAL TYPE AND A THIRD OF TYPE STREETS THAT ARE, THAT ARE REALLY BAD IN YOUR AND NON DISTRICT.
THOSE A THIRD OF THINGS BEING SPENT ON LAKE RIDGE.
THOSE ARE COME WHY BRING ME TO, BUT THAT, THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR THINKING SENSE PUT A LOT OF PLACES, I, I UNDERSTAND THE THINKING, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A CHAT.
I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE ALREADY AND WE'RE JUST, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONCRETE.
WE'RE TAKING PERFECTLY GOOD ASPHALT STREETS AND MAKING
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'EM CONCRETE.WHICH I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT'S A GREAT IDEA OR NOT.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT AS A PROPOSAL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE.
THE FUTURE HAS TO BE QUICK VERY SOON.
GOING DOWN THE NEXT MEETING, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ASPHALT REPLACEMENT AS WELL.
AND I GUESS REPLACEMENT OF WITH CONCRETE, IS THAT GONNA EXTEND THE LIFE? I MEAN, WHAT WAS, WHAT'S THE
AND SO AS WE'RE BUILDING NEW STREETS, THEY'RE ALL CONCRETE.
WE'RE NOT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE OUR DESIRE IS TO REPLACE THEM WITH CONCRETE AS WE DEVELOP NEW AREAS.
WE, WE OVERLAY ON ASPHALT NUMBER ONE BECAUSE IT'S A NICE RIDE.
ALL OF ENGLAND'S ASPHALT THAT THEY, WELL THE COMPANY THAT WE INTRODUCED, BUT IT DOESN'T LAST AS LONG A COUPLE YEARS AGO AT UH, NLC THAT THEY DO, IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL THAT CAN LAY OVER.
IT KIND OF SETTLES IT IF IT'S UNEVEN.
ARE WE STILL USING THEM? 'CAUSE THEY WERE DOING PROJECTS HERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE CONCRETE? UH, YEAH, JUST KIND OF A SEAL.
WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF, UM, PROBLEMS WITH THAT MATERIAL.
WHAT TYPE OF PROBLEM? IT WORKED.
THEY DID THAT ON SOUTHEAST FOUR SOUTHWEST 14TH STREET NEXT TO WHERE I WORK.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE THEY VIEW THE TRACK.
IT DOESN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IT GETS A LOT OF PARKING ON IT, BUT NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC CAMP WISDOM CONCRETE.
BUT I'M SEEING PATCHES ALREADY BEING REPLACED WITH CONCRETE.
CONCRETE HAS A MUCH MORE DURABLE LIFE THAN ASPHALT.
IT'S MUCH MORE DURABLE, BUT IT IS NOT PERFECT.
AND SO YES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE YEAH, JUST DRIVE DOWN BARDON.
I MEAN, BUT I MEAN YOU GOTTA BUCKLE YOURSELVES IN AND REBECCA AND I ON THEIR F TWO 50, WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY DID.
BUT THAT STREET ISN'T A YEAR AND WE'RE REPLACING PATCHES ALREADY.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE SOME ISSUES.
BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO GET INTO WHAT'S DESIRABLE, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO GO BACK WITH CONCRETE.
BUT AGAIN, UM, NOT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT, WHICH IS WHY WE DO, WE HAVE A GOOD CONCRETE CREW TO GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE REPAIRS ARE DONE AND DONE CORRECTLY.
WELL HERE'S, HERE'S ONE OF THE BOTTOM LINES.
WE, WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH OUR ROAD REPAIRS WITH A QUARTER CENT CAN'T.
AND WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE OF THESE WE'VE HAD IN HOW MANY YEARS? SINCE 2021 MAYOR.
AND THAT WAS ONLY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MOST OF IT WAS NOT FOR STREETS.
SO THE LAST TIME WE DID STREET, SO IN THE NINETIES WE, WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD DO A $600 MILLION STREETS PROJECT AND STILL NOT GET EVERYTHING THAT GRADES OUT AT A DEER OR LESS.
WE'RE JUST, BUT WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT KIND OF PACKAGE TO THE VOTERS.
THIS PACKAGE HERE IS GOING TO ALREADY BE 3 CENTS.
YO, OUR NEXT, I'M SORRY WE'RE ON TV.
NO, MY QUESTION IS, SO WHENEVER WE PRESENT IT TO THE VOTERS, WILL THE, UM, TAX RATE INCREASE, BE IT ON IT AS WELL? YES.
SO IF THEY VOTED, IF THEY VOTE NO ON THE TAX RATE, THIS WHOLE THING GOES AWAY TOO.
SO IF THEY VOTE NO, WE DON'T DO ANY OF THESE.
IT'S, IT'S LISTED AS ONE ITEM, BUT IT SAYS THAT THE TAX RATE, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S SPECIFIC VERAGE THAT SAYS THIS WILL INCREASE THE TAX RATE BY 0 CENTS.
LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THIS ONE PACKAGE.
THIS ONE PACKAGE YOU SAID WAS TWO POINT SOMETHING CENTS.
SO WE WOULD SAY, SO IF THEY VOTE NO, THE TAX RATE WOULD NOT GO UP 2.50 CENTS.
BUT WE WOULDN'T DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND ONCE AGAIN IT'S ASKING, AND WHEN WE BRING IT BACK IN THREE YEARS, IF I BETCHA THE LEGISLATURE'S GONNA CHANGE WHAT WE CAN BRING BACK AND HOW MANY VOTES YOU HAVE TO GET THERE.
SO THIS IS OUR LAST, IIIA HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH DOING IT NOW 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO US IN FUTURE.
AND MORE THAN LIKELY IT'LL BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
I THINK SO COUNCIL MEMBER DEL THE STREETS PACKAGE IS GONNA BE SEPARATE FROM THE OTHERS.
HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO GIVE 'EM VOTES TO PASS IT CURRENTLY.
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WE NEED TO SPLIT IT.YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR VOTERS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK.
'CAUSE UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG TAX INCREASE JUST FOR THE STREETS.
UH, BUT HOW WOULD WE SPLIT THESE UP, UH, TO WHERE YOU'D BE VOTING FOR HALF OF 'EM AND NOT, I THINK IT'S BEST TO DO ALL, ALL THE STREETS.
UH, AND THEN GO THE OTHER ONES UP OR DOWN TOO.
MAYOR, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, WE APPROACHED IT WITH THIS METHODOLOGY IS WE DID A SURVEY OF ALL THE BOND ELECTIONS OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS IN THE METROPLEX AND AROUND THE PACKAGES AS WE HAVE LISTED THEM HERE ARE, WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER CITIES' BOND ELECTIONS.
WHEREAS WHEN YOU TAKE 'EM OUT AND YOU TAKE THEM AND PUT 'EM IN AN A LA CARTE DISTRICT, THAT STREET DISTRICT, YOU'RE NOT AS SUCCESSFUL.
THE, THE CHANCES OF BEING SUCCESSFUL FALL GREATLY.
UH, STREET PACKAGES PASSED AT ABOUT A 67% RATE.
UH, AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND GO TO YEAH.
THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO PACKAGE THEM IN A MANNER WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS.
I THINK ALL THE STREETS TOGETHER IS A WAY TO GO.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN PEOPLE, SO I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS PART 'CAUSE IT'S THE STREET I DRIVE ON, BUT I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, PULL YOUR MIC DOWN SO WE ARE BEING TAPED.
UM, NOT EVERY EASY MICS, BUT I CAN USE MY, UM, THE SHADY GROVE FOR EXAMPLE.
THERE'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING GOING ON THERE.
IS THERE A WAY THE CITY COULD CAPITALIZE SOME MONEY BACK FROM THESE DEVELOPERS? LIKE HAVE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THEY'RE USING WAREHOUSING? I DON'T KNOW
THEY WERE IN A SEPARATE TIF OR SOMETHING.
THEN THE FUNDS IN THAT WOULD GO BACK TO THAT IS A SEPARATE ASSESSMENT.
BUT I DON'T THINK WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IN A SEPARATE TIF.
'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, I MEAN, LOT MORE WAREHOUSING WOULD MORE THAN JUST GOING TO INCREASE IN, I MEAN WE MIGHT BE ADOPTING THIS PACKAGE IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
I HAVEN'T DO THE THREE AGAIN OR DO PATCHES.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, SO FOR LIKE THE GAS WELLS, WE DO HAVE LIKE THE ASSESSMENTS FOR ROAD DAMAGE IF A GAS WELL 'CAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY HEAVIER, BUT NOT JUST FOR WAREHOUSES BUT JUST NOT FOR WAREHOUSES.
SO UNLESS THEY'RE IN A TIF YES.
THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR JUST SPECIFIC SEGMENTS OF INDUSTRY.
LET THEIR OWN GO TO HELL AND THEY PAY THEMSELVES PUBLIC SAFETY.
OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, WE HAVE THREE THAT TOTAL 86.5 MILLION AND THE TAX IMPACT IS, UH, 1.03 CENTS.
SO THE FIRST PROJECT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S A TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF 12.5 MILLION.
THAT'S TO UPDATE THE RADIO SYSTEM, THE PLATFORM CONTROLS, UM, AND OTHER SOFTWARE AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THE TAX RATE IMPACT IS 0.0015.
AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL TAX RATE IMPACT FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY? 1.03 CENTS.
AND IT WOULD BE ALL ONE UP OR DOWN? ALL ONE VOTE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW AS PROPOSED CURRENTLY? YES.
SO PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER TWO IS THE SOUTHERN SUBSTATION AND RESOURCE CENTER.
THIS IS FOR THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
UH, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY-BASED MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITY.
TOTAL PROJECT COSTS 32 MILLION.
AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS ONE.
WHAT IF IT WERE TO PASS? IT WOULD BE TOWARD THE END OF THE 10 YEAR TERM THAT WE ARE SETTING FOR THESE BOND ISSUANCE WHERE THIS ISSUANCE WOULD OCCUR BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE NEEDED UNTIL THAT TIME.
SO IT WOULD BE PUSHED LATER INTO THE ISSUANCE TERM.
AND OUR FINAL PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT IS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION NETWORK.
IT'S THE, UM, CITY RESOURCE CENTER.
OUR SECOND CENTER DOWN THERE WITH THE VIRTUAL REALITY.
THE LIBRARY WOULD BE A VIRTUAL LIBRARY.
THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT CENTER.
YOU'D HAVE YOUR POLICE STATION, YOU'D HAVE YOUR SUBSTATION, YOU'D HAVE YOUR FIRE STATION, YOU'D HAVE THE THINGS THAT, WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND PAY THEIR WATER, WATER BILL OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
ALL OF THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THIS ONE CENTER.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AT THAT TIME, IT'D BE
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ALL THE MULTIP CENTER.AND THEY'D BE TO GET PERMITS AND STUFF.
FROM THERE YOU WOULD BE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO AT CITY HALL, YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO THERE.
UM, AS WE, BUT YOU CAN DO MOST OF IT ONLINE TOO.
BY THAT TIME PEOPLE MAY NOT, NOT WANT THERE, BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PERMITS.
YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A HUMAN BEING.
WELL, THAT, THAT WE WOULD'VE HUMAN BEINGS THERE ON, ON SITE THAT WOULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
MAY NOT NEED HUMANS BY THAT TIME IN 10 YEARS, WE'LL PUT AN AI, GO UP TO A KIOSK AND ORDER A, LIKE YOU ORDER A JACK IN THE BOX HAMBURGER, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL PUT AN AI SO IT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN.
UH, I WOULD SUGGEST OF COURSE, 10 YEARS NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED, BUT WHO, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ HAD A MEETING AT THE STATION SEVEN THE OTHER DAY AND IT HAS A NICE LITTLE MEETING ROOM.
BUT, AND I THINK SINCE THIS IS GONNA BE A MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, IT NEEDS TO HAVE A MEETING ROOM BIGGER THAN THE ONE THAT'S STATION SEVEN AND 11.
GONNA HAVE A MEETING ROOM AT 11 TOO, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S ALL GONNA BE COMBINED.
THAT ONE SITE NEEDS A MEETING ROOM.
DOUBLE THE SIZE OF WHAT'S AT STEP SEVEN.
PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION NETWORK IS OUR, UH, FINAL PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT.
AND THAT'S THE INSTALLATION OF CITYWIDE TRAFFIC CONTROL NETWORK TO PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO CITY FACILITIES AND ENABLING COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC SAFETY.
THE TOTAL PROJECT IS ESTIMATED AT 42 MILLION WITH A TAX RATE IMPACT OF 0.005.
SO I HAVE TO PLEASE ANYTHING MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT CA COUNSEL THAT ENTAILED IT WOULD ENTAIL A COMMUNICATION CENTER AND TRAFFIC SAFETY SIGNALS.
AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR SIGNALS IN THE CITY HAVE CAMERAS WITH THEM AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY DO IS EXPAND IT AND MAKE IT WORK FURTHER SOUTH AND IN OTHER PLACES THAT WE NEEDED.
AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS AND OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS SYSTEM FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY.
IF AT SUCH TIME YOU HAVE A A HYPOTHETICALLY YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT AT AT CARRIER AND 3 0 3, THEN YOU COULD GET NOTIFICATION OUT TO EVERYWHERE THAT NEEDED TO BE NOTIFICATION THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE WITH THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM.
WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND BE REROUTED TO HOW TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO AND AVOID ACCIDENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND IT WOULD BE A SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THAT AND GO FURTHER SOUTH.
SO IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT AND, AND YES.
IT AND I ALSO THINK, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED, I USE WAYS FOR THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE THING, THE MAIN THOUGHT I THOUGHT WAS IT'S SO WHOEVER SITS IN THAT BOX OVER THERE RIGHT.
CAN LOOK AT AN INTERSECTION AND TIME DO THE TIMING FROM THE BOX INSTEAD OF SENDING SOMEBODY OUT TO ME.
WE HAVE NO WAY TO REROUTE 'EM.
UH, I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THAT ALREADY.
SO WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON PLACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE 'EM, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S CORRECT.
WE'RE ADDING THEM TO PLACES WE DON'T HAVE 'EM.
AND ADDING THEM TO THE NEW AREAS DOWN SOUTH.
SO THEY CAN SIT IN THAT BOX AND DO THE TIMING.
UH, HAVE Y'ALL BEEN IN THE BOX WHERE THEY DO THAT? SIT INTERESTING.
YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND SEE THE CAMERAS.
WE ALL NEED THE DIRECT PHONE NUMBER TO THAT BOX.
AREN'T WE DOING THAT ON ANY MAJOR? IT SHOULD BE ON EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
TONY LIGHTS THAT WE'RE BUILDING NOW, AS FAR AS IT ON, ON MAJOR CORNER RED LIGHTS WHEN WE PUT IN A BLUE RED LIGHT.
WE'RE PUTTING THAT ON THERE ALREADY.
THESE ARE ALREADY GONNA BE, YEAH.
SO MAINLY THIS, THIS ISN'T FOR NEW ONES 'CAUSE THE NEW ONES ARE ALREADY, WELL THIS IS FOR NEW ONES.
THIS IS TO BUY THE NEW ONES, NEW ONES TO DO WITH ALREADY.
TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE EXPENSIVE.
AND WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY ENHANCING AND UPGRADING OUR SYSTEM ALL, ALL THROUGH THE CITY.
AND THE REASONING BY PUTTING IT IN PUBLIC SAFETY IS LOTS OF TIMES WHEN A CRIME IS COMMITTED, THE POLICE DO USE.
THAT'S THE WE IT IS NOT WHERE IT IS.
IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS, IS WHAT WE'RE IN IT.
UM, WE JUST WANT TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
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BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL SAYS MOST ALL OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS HAVE THE CAMERA NOW.AND SO THIS IS JUST THE ADD, I GUESS YOU'RE ADDING SOME TO AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THEM.
WELL, WHEN YOU START GETTING DOWN SOUTH AND WE'RE ADDING ALMOST A CITY DOWN SOUTH.
BUT THEY NEED TO BE ON THEIR OWN.
'CAUSE THEY AREN'T GONNA COME UP HERE ANYWAY.
SO, SO IS THAT THE SAME REASONING IF WE GO BACK TO P ONE? IS THAT THE SAME REASONING TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND EVEN WITH THE RADIO SYSTEM PLATFORM? THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS, WE GET, WE GET REGULAR REQUESTS THROUGH THREE BUDGET FOR RADIOS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE MOTOROLA.
BUT THAT HAS, BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE PLATFORM.
PHASE ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M, BUT IS THIS THE SAME THOUGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE EXPANDING.
EXPANDING AND OBSOLESCENCE AND REPLACING, UPGRADING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING.
OKAY, SO THIS IS REPLACEMENT COMMUNITY BOTH.
SO, UH, THE FINAL CATEGORIES, COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS, UH, THE TOTAL FOR THIS GROUPING IS 39 MILLION WITH A TAX IMPACT OF 0.46 CENTS.
SO THERE AGAIN, IF THE WHOLE THING PASSES, IT ONLY IMPACTS 0.466.
SO MOST ALL THESE OTHER THINGS DON'T HAVE STAFFING THAT GO WITH THEM.
THESE ALL WOULD HAVE, THESE TWO WOULD HAVE STAFFING.
UH, WHAT'S THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID WE CAN AFFORD TO BUILD A FIRE STATION.
WE JUST CAN'T FUND THE OPERATION OF IT.
BUT WHAT'S STAFF'S THOUGHTS ON FUNDING? WHERE DO THESE GET FUNDED? DOES THE MULTI HERITAGE CENTER AND THE PICKLEBALL COMPLEX COME OUT OF THE PARKS FUND? EITHER THE QUARTER SENT OR THE, THE MULTI HERITAGE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE OUTTA THE PARKS FUNDING.
WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY A FUNDING SOURCE AND UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO, HOW WOULD WE MAKE, HOW COULD WE CHANGE IT TO WHERE IT WOULD, UH, THERE WERE SOME VERY SPECIFIC PARAMETERS.
IF WE FOLLOW THOSE PARAMETERS, THEN WE COULD MAKE THIS, UH, I BELIEVE IF WE CALLED 'EM MULTI HERITAGE, I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER PARAMETERS.
CAN'T REMEMBER GUYS, BUT IT COULD BE POSSIBLE.
WELL, COUNSEL, MY THOUGHT IS WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FUNDING SOURCE FOR PARKS, THE PERPETUAL QUARTER DESCENT PLUS FUNDING FROM A GENERAL FUND.
IF WE CAN SOMEHOW FIT IT IN TO WHERE THE PICKLEBALL IS NO BRAINER.
THE FUNDING COULD COME OUT OF PARKS.
AND THE FUNDING FOR THE HERITAGE CENTER, WON'T THAT BE THAT EXPENSIVE? WHO FUNDS THE STAFF AT THE RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER? NOW THAT'S PARKS.
WELL, SO WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.
IS IT JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE NAMING IT? IT IS THE USE OF IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT, HOW IT'S ABLE TO BE USED UNDER THE PARK'S NAME.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D HAVE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE WOULD FIND THAT.
WELL YOU WOULD THINK THE WAY WAY WE RUN IN THE RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO RUN A CENTER LIKE THIS SIMILAR.
AND THE FUNDING SOURCE ISN'T THAT BIG A DEAL TO US.
BUT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD NOT BE A BAD SOURCE FOR FUNDING.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NICE TO HAVE IT TIED TO THE QUARTER SENT.
OH, YOU CAN ASK IT ON ANY, EVEN, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE STREET IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO P ONE.
I CALL HIM BEFORE I GET IN TROUBLE.
UM, THE MULTI HERITAGE CENTER WHERE I KNOW IT SAYS TBD FOR THE DISTRICT.
SO, SO WHERE ARE Y'ALL THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THAT
THE, UH, THE, UH, WE NEED TO FIND A SPOT AND, UH, AND IS THERE STILL SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL TO DO A MULTI HERITAGE CENTER? I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
UM, I'M, I, UM, WE HAVE, I REMEMBER WHEN WE PASSED THE, UH, BOND PACKAGE FOR, UH, THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER.
I HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TELLING ME, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE DOWN RUTHIE JACKSON.
UH, WELL, I I ALMOST HATE BUILDING ANOTHER CENTER THAT'S GONNA HAVE EVENTS IN IT THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE CENTERS WE ALREADY HAVE.
I'D ALMOST RATHER SPEND MORE TIME DEVELOPING THE, UH, PROGRAMS IN THE FACILITIES WE
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HAVE THAT ARE HERITAGE BASED THAN BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING.I MEAN, WE DO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS IN THIS CITY WITH HISTORICAL HERITAGE HONORING OUR CULTURE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING TO DO THAT.
MAYBE WE JUST DO A BETTER JOB OF PROGRAMMING AT THE RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER AT THE EPIC AT OTHER PLACES.
BUT WHEN I SAY BETTER, MY GOODNESS, WE ALREADY DO EVERYTHING WE DO.
WE COVERED ALSO, BUT THERE AGAIN, SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE HISTORIC CENTER HERE ON MAIN STREET? NO, WE'LL GET RID OF THAT ONE.
I I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL MEANS.
WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UH, YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THIS CITY SHOULD BE BASED ON HONORING OUR HERITAGE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LEAVING IT ON HERE.
I, TO ME IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE.
I, WHETHER WE HAVE ONE OR NOT.
I IT'S NOT, I THINK WE NEED ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIVERSITY NOT ONLY ON THE
WE'RE WE, SINCE WE HAVE A DIVERSITY CITY, EVERYTHING WE DO IS DIVERSE.
BUT HOW MANY DIVERSE PROGRAMS DO WE DO AT THE HISTORIC CENTER RIGHT NOW? OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EVENTS WE HAVE AT THE RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER.
THE EPIC, EPIC WA THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THAT THE HISTORICAL DEAL'S NOT FOR THAT.
THAT'S A TINY LITTLE BUILDING TO RE REMEMBER OUR HERITAGE AND HISTORY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY ARE ALREADY SO MULTICULTURAL BASED THINGS AT THE UPTOWN.
BUT MIKE, I DON'T MIND PUTTING IT ON THERE.
IF THE CITIZENS VOTE ON IT AND PROVE IT FINE WITH ME.
UH, DO NOT TRY TO RECOMMEND, THIS IS GOING TO DISTRICT SIX FOR THE MULTI HERITAGE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CUT ON THERE THAT WAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, I DON'T THINK, EVEN THOUGH THAT SWEET ROUTE CAME AND SAID THEY WANT TO PICKLEBALL COURT DOWN THERE, WE KNOW THE NU THE PHONE CALLS YOU AND I GOT, THEY DON'T WANT TO PICKLEBALL COURT.
YEAH, I, THAT WAS MY NEXT, I THINK MAYOR LONG HOA NEEDS TO BUILD TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS.
SO WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM THE MONEY, LOAN 'EM THE MONEY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, THEY NEED TO BUILD TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE MERRILL LAGOS.
BUT, UH, TO FIND A PLACE FOR THIS, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF, PLENTY OF ACREAGE AT THE FILI PARK.
THERE IS, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A BAD PLACE TO PUT SOMETHING.
UH, LIKE THE PICKLEBALL COMPLEX.
WHY? WE HAVE GREAT LOCATIONS AT CP WAGNER PARK WHERE WE HAD THE TENNIS FACILITY OUT THERE YEARS AGO.
AND THE BOTANICAL GARDENS OUGHT TO GO SOMEWHERE.
UH, AND I KNOW THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS DEAL FOR BOTANICAL GARDENS THAT HAS IT UP THERE, PUT ON HERE BY BESSIE ADAMS. ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHAT IS THIS? I I I'M CONFUSED.
WHERE IS THE BOTANICAL GARDEN? IT'S A PLACE YOU GO ON PICK FLOWERS.
MAYOR, ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT.
MAY I MAKE A COMMENT? PLEASE, SIR.
UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE GRAND PRIX HISTORICAL ORGANIZATION, AS YOU SAID, WANTS TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY, BUT WE'RE ALSO CELEBRATING THE PRESENT.
AND WE CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY THERE BY VARIOUS PROGRAMS. AND IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER, IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO JOIN AND AT LEAST GO TO A COUPLE OF THE MEETINGS AT THE HISTORICAL ORGANIZATION, GIVE SOME INPUT.
THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO PROGRAMS, UH, OF DIVERSITY OF ANY KIND OF, I BELIEVE NOT.
WHEN I CAME ON IN 2017 AND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY ASKED BECAUSE I WAS THE FIRST ELECTED COLOR, THEY NEVER RETURNED OUR CALLS.
THEY ASKED, WHAT IF ME IF WE CAN DO THINGS.
WELL, YOU CAN, YOU LOOK AT ANGELA LUCKY.
ANGELA LUCKY HAS ASKED THE THE LEADERSHIP THERE.
NOW THEY'LL, THEY'LL LET Y'ALL DO THINGS THERE.
NOW, WOULD YOU, YOU TRY, WOULD YOU BE PATIENT AND TRY AGAIN? YEAH, PLEASE.
I I DON'T THINK I GET HIM ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK IT'S VERY INCONSIDERATE THAT IT WASN'T DONE THE FIRST TIME.
IT MIGHT'VE BEEN WHO WAS RUNNING IT THEN.
BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
IF THERE'S NO MEETING SPACE THERE, YOU CAN HOLD TO PEOPLE, 20 PEOPLE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S A NICE BIG, THERE'S NOT SPACE WITH UH EXACTLY.
IT DOESN'T, I IT IS NOT COMPARISON.
WE'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.
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MAKING THE STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM'S QUESTION THAT I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF MEETING SPACES WHERE WE CAN CELEBRATE OUR HERITAGE IF WE SO CHOOSE.WE CAN LEAVE THIS ON HERE AND LET THE CITIZENS VOTE VOTED UP AND DOWN.
NO, MY QUESTION IS, BEFORE WE DECIDE TO PUT THIS ON HERE OR TAKE IT OFF, CAN WE GET A DEFINITION AS TO WHAT THE MULTI HERITAGE CENTER IS? WHAT'S GONNA BE, 'CAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING THIS, I'M THINKING OF LIKE A MUSEUM SHOWCASING OUR DIFFERENT CULTURES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
IS IT A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? IS IT A MUSEUM? WHAT IS GOOD QUESTION.
FOR $23 MILLION, WHAT WAS Y'ALL'S THOUGHT? WHAT WAS IT? STAFF GET A, THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ PUT UP.
DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? I'M SORRY.
UM, I THINK WE, THE MULTI HERITAGE CENTER, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PERFORMING ARTS.
IT'S KINDA LIKE THE LATINO CULTURE CENTER OR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE CENTERS.
YOU SEE THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT CITIES, THEY HAVE DANCE COMPANIES COME IN, THEY HAVE ART SHOWS COME IN.
THERE'S A POETRY WITH A STAGE.
SO YOU, YOU COULD DO DIFFERENT ARTISTS ON THERE.
AND THEN YOU COULD ALSO DO, UM, THERE'S EVEN, UM, WAYS TO DO LIKE A MARKET OUT THERE AND POPUP SHOPS AND STUFF THAT WAY.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE INITIAL THOUGHT.
WHENEVER WE WERE THINK THINKING ABOUT THIS AND KNOW, I KNOW WE SAID, WELL, WE GOT PLENTY OF CENTERS, WE GOT PLENTY OF SPACE.
BUT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT AND A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING SPACE WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO HAPPEN.
AND, AND WE'RE HERE MAKING PLANS FOR THE FUTURE OF 2 87 SAYING, OH, THEY NEED THIS, THEY NEED THAT.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 30 YEARS SOUTH OF 20.
SO I MEAN, IF IT'S TAKEN OFF THIS, I MIGHT JUST DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN HAVE IT VOTE UP AND DOWN.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT OFF.
AND JOHN, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK A GOOD SPOT FOR IT WOULD BE SOUTH OF 20 MIKE'S NOT BAD IDEA.
PUT IT OVER ON IN ME FAMILIAR.
BUT SOUTH OF 20 WOULDN'T BE A BAD SPOT.
'CAUSE PEOPLE WANT MORE MEETING SPACE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OUR, OUR PERFORMANCE ART.
IT COULD BE LIKE A SLASH REC CENTER SLASH UM, YOU KNOW, LIBRARY, WHATEVER.
IT COULD BE KIND OF LIKE THE TOP TOWN CENTER YOU JUST MENTIONED UP PREVIOUSLY.
IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SOUTH POINT.
IT JUST HAS A GOOD MEETING SPACE.
AND BECAUSE YOU CAN DO ART GALLERIES IN A GOOD MEETING SPACE.
AND THE LAST POINT JUST TO, IF WE STICK WITH ARTS, REMEMBER IT'S A PARKS ARTS DEPARTMENT NOW, SO WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE NAME IT PERFORMING ARTS.
THE REC CENTER AND THE REC CENTER.
JUST WANT OFFICIALLY GO DON'T GOT LAND IN JOHN'S DISTRICT.
I JUST WANNA OFFICIALLY GO ON THE RECORD.
UH, DISTRICT SIX IS SAYING NO TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN DISTRICT SIX.
FIND SOMEWHERE IN DISTRICT FOUR TO PUT IT.
BUT DISTRICT SIX KNOW, AND Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THEY DON'T EVEN, OH, THEY WANT SOME.
I SAID IF THEY, THEY TOLD ME WHAT THEY WANT.
I SAID, YOU COME DOWN HERE AND ASK THE COUNCIL FOR IT.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I AGREE WITH YOU.
AND I ALSO THINK DISTRICT FOUR WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR IT.
JACK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEAD.
UH, SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING JOHN LISTED.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YEAH, I LIKE WHAT HE LISTED.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, UM, THINK CHERYL MASON OR MAYBE JUNIOR OR SOMEBODY SAID IT, THE MUSEUM ASPECT WITH THE ROTATING EXHIBITS, WHICH COULD BE THE HISTORICAL CULTURAL, BUT A MULTIPURPOSE CENTER ON TOP OF THAT.
I WANTED TO ADD, SO WE HAVE 6 MILLION HERE FOR THE BOTANICAL BURNS IN PLAIN CENTER, UH, FACILITY.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME BOTANICAL GARDENS IN SOME CITIES THAT ARE REALLY QUITE EXPANSIVE.
AND NOT ONLY OUTDOORS, THEY THE LARGE ONES.
YOU HAVE A BUILDING COMPONENT AND WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THIS, FIGURING OUT LOCATIONS TO PUT THESE GREAT IDEAS, PUT IT NEXT TO THE, YOU COULD ALMOST PUT ALL OF THIS ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG TOURIST DRAW AND SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WELL, NOT ALL, MAYBE NOT THE PICKLEBALL, BUT THE MULTI HERITAGE.
UH, SO, AND IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE WOULD LIST IT AS SUCH, UH, ON THE ELECTION, BUT YEAH, YOU COULD REALLY, I THINK DO SOMETHING REALLY GRAND IF WE COMBINED ALL THIS NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ALL THAT WOULD COST.
SO THAT'S ALL YOU'RE SAYING? YEP.
C YOU'RE C ONE AND C3 COMBINED.
WHICH, WHICH WE'RE STILL VOTING ALL THREE OF THESE TOGETHER.
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WE COULD COMBINE 'EM ONCE WE GET TO THE, HOW WE'RE GONNA BUILD THEM EXCEPT AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA BUILD THEM.AND THEN TONY ON MY THOUGHT ON THE MULTICULTURAL IS I LIKE IT BEING A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
DEFINITELY SOMETHING SOUTH OF 20.
BUT WHY DO WE NOT, WHY ARE WE THINKING LIMITED TO JUST LOCAL? WHY CAN'T WE GO AFTER LIKE A NATIONAL CENTER, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE A TOURIST ATTRACTION, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE A DESTINATION FOR OUR CITY.
AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING MORE MEETING SPACE OR LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW CAN WE BRING IN DOLLARS INTO OUR CITIES.
THE PERFORMING ART PIECE WOULD BUILD, DRAW.
BUT IF WE THINK OF SOMETHING NATIONAL, LIKE WHAT ARLINGTON HAS CREATED, HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT, WHAT DID ARLINGTON CREATE? YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL, UM, THE ONE THAT JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THE MEDAL OF HONOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S BILLION, I MEAN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT SIGNIFICANT.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE SOME FUNDING BEHIND IT AS WELL.
THE, UH, SO CAN WE THINK A LITTLE BIGGER AND A LITTLE BROADER? POSSIBLY.
DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU WANNA RAISE THE BUDGET.
BUT AS FAR AS JUST SOME OF THE IDEAS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUDGET.
UH, THE MIDDLE OF HONOR TOOK, UH, A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF NON-CITY FUNDING.
I THINK THEY HAD SOME FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT AS WELL.
UH, OR FEDERAL AT THE SAME TIME.
CAN WE STILL THINK ALONG THOSE LEVELS BECAUSE WE HAVE A HISTORICAL, WE ALONG THOSE LEVELS TO TRY TO GET ANYBODY IN THERE THAT HAVE BESSIE.
WHEN YOU, THE BOTANICAL GARDENS INVOLVED IN THE MUSEUM AND THE PERFORMING ARTS.
BUT I WONDER IF THE, YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WONDER IF THE 23 PLUS 6 MILLION IS ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU'RE VISUALIZING NOW.
SO WE CAN MOVE THESE NUMBERS AROUND JUST LIKE WE MOVE SOME IDEAS AROUND.
NOW HERE'S THE OTHER QUESTION.
WELL, THE OTHER COMMENT, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE BOTANICAL GARDEN INLAND.
MY THOUGHTS OF A BOTANICAL GARDEN IS ON THE, ON THE SHORES OF THE LAKE.
AND SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK TO A DEVELOPER ABOUT OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FUNDED MAYBE WITH PARKS, UM, QUARTER SENT.
BUT THAT WAS THE THOUGHT I HAD.
NOT NECESSARILY, SO IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, THE THE, BUT I'M THINKING ALONG THE LAKE FRONT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'LL BE A SEPARATE.
UM, SO I GOT DISTRACTED
AND THAT BOTANICAL GARDEN WAS GONNA BE A DRAW TOO.
IT WAS ANOTHER WAY SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY IT AS A CITY AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE COME IN.
ARE YOU FREE COUNCIL MEMBER? SHOTWELL.
UH, WHEN I WAS SITTING HERE AND TALKING WITH BESSIE AND TOLD HER, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK THIS MULTI HERITAGE CENTER WAS A GREAT IDEA UNTIL I HEARD COUNCILMAN LOPEZ.
THE LIST OF IT MAKES SENSE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I WOULD AGREE WITH COMPLETELY.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOMENCLATURE IS ONE THING, WHICH I WOULD BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THE NOMENCLATURE, BUT THE EXPLAINING WHAT JOHN'S SAYING, IT IS WHAT HE'S WANTING.
BECAUSE YOU ADD IN, YOU, YOU DO THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, YOU THE MORE THINGS THAT YOU DO AND CAN DO IN ONE AREA, UNDER ONE SET OF AIR CONDITIONING AND ONE PARKING LOT AND ONE STAFF, ONE STAFF IS, IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SEPARATE HERE.
AND AS, AS HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE AREA FOR ART, A LITTLE AREA THAT IN, IN ANY, ANY AREAS CAN INTERCHANGE WITH EACH OTHER.
UH, THE ONLY THING I KNOW OF WHAT CULTURAL CENTER IS THE ONLY ONE I'VE EVER BEEN TO THAT'S CALLED CULTURAL CENTER.
THAT NOMENCLATURE IS THE BATHHOUSE OVER IN DALLAS.
AND UH, AND THIS IS A SMALL AREA WITH A SMALL STAGE AND A SMALL LITTLE ART AREA.
WELL THAT WAS A GREAT QUESTION AND A GREAT ANSWER.
ANYTHING CALLED CULTURAL CENTER, I WOULDN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HECK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNTIL, UNTIL JOHN EXPLAINED THAT.
AND THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT BETTER SENSE.
AND SOUTH OF 20, I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
NOW HOW FAR, HOW FAR? SOUTH OF 20, NOT TOO FAR.
I THINK THE COALS IS THE PERFECT SPOT NORTH OF THE FIRE STATION.
UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TERMINOLOGY, UM, THIS, TO TONY'S POINT THERE, THERE'S A PHRASE, ARTS AND CULTURE THAT GO TOGETHER MAYBE OUTSIDE THE BATHHOUSE THIS TERM.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LEAN INTO THAT.
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AND IT CAN STILL BE MULTICULTURAL, BUT WHEN YOU SAY ARTS AND CULTURE, I THINK THAT HAS A DIFFERENT CONNOTATION THAN MULTICULTURAL MULTI HERITAGE.AND I LIKE ALSO, I WANNA SAY BESTY, THE IDEA OF DOING THE BOTANICAL GARDENS ON THE WATER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE TO DO IT AND IF WE COULD HAVE MAYBE ANOTHER SATELLITE OF IT OVER AT THIS OTHER SPACE.
BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AS WELL.
JUNIOR, MIKE JOHN, YOU REMEMBER WE WERE WENT TO, UH, NLC IN DC AND WAS THE WORDING WE USED.
SO Y'ALL CAME BACK WARNING US ABOUT THE WORDING.
SO WE JUST, I THINK PERFORMING ARTS IS VERY NEUTRAL.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANY CULTURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET MONEY ONCE AGAIN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO USE, AND PERFORMING ARTS IN OUR CITY WOULD BE MULTICULTURAL.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR SOME MONEY.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM PICKLEBALL COMPLEX.
UH, THE, UH, PICKLEBALL COMPLEX IS, UH, ESTIMATED COST OF $10 MILLION, UH, WITH A ONE YEAR PROJECT TIMELINE INTO A TAX IMPACT OF, WHAT WOULD IT BE? POINT OH OH ONE TWO.
WHAT WOULD IT BE? HOW MANY COURTS COVERED? IT'D BE OUTDOOR COVERED, SIX TO EIGHT COURTS.
KIND OF LIKE SOUTH LAKE BUILT.
THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE DESIGN.
DO THEY HAVE ANY COVERED? AWESOME.
I'LL HAVE TO, I DON'T, WE NEED COVERED, BUT NOT ALL OF 'EM COVERED.
UH, AND, UM, A FEW OF 'EM COVERED, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST, LIKE I SAID, IN ONE OF OUR PARKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO ALL THREE OF THESE ALL WOULD BE TOGETHER.
UH, AND IT, HOW MUCH WAS ITS IMPACT? JUST THESE THREE 39 MILLION WITH A 0.46 CENT IMPACT.
AND SO THE BIG ONE AGAIN, IS THE TWO POINT STREETS.
BUT OUR CITIZENS KNOW THEY NEED, UH, STREETS, SO.
UH, AGAIN, WE'LL GO BACK TO NOMENCLATURE.
SOME OF THE STREET, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIRST ONE IS MORE THAN JUST THE STREET.
IT'S WALKWAYS AND THIS AND THAT.
UH, NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT ON THE IS PAPERWORK IS, AND BILL, DID YOU SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE, TRY TO USE ANY OF THIS FOR ANY OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE STREETS, THAT STORM WATERS DRAINAGE, ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CUT UP A STREET AND BUILD A NEW ONE? BECAUSE ANYTHING, ANYTIME, ANYTIME YOU DIG UP STREET, YOU GOTTA START MESSING WITH STORMWATER, DRAIN AND ALL THAT STUFF.
RIGHT? THESE, THESE, THESE, THESE PROJECTED AMOUNT TO INCLUDE ANY WORK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO BENEATH THE STREET AS WELL.
THEN WHY DON'T WE CALL IT INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN JUST STREETS? UH, IT'S MORE THAN JUST STREETS.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, WALTER.
DOESN'T THIS INCLUDE SOME OF THAT? IT WOULDN'T INCLUDE LIKE THE STORM DRAIN, BUT WE INCLUDE THE UTILITY.
BUT THE STORM DRAIN, THE STORM DRAINS ARE IMPORTANT IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE.
THE PANCAKE, JUST HOW WE LIST IS IMPORTANT.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE CAN LIST AS STREETS AND STORM DRAINS.
TO BE MORE CLEAR, IT'S MORE THAN JUST, IT'S MORE THAN JUST STREETS.
I LIKE STREETS AND STORM DRAIN.
SO THE NEXT, UM, STEPS AFTER THIS IS THE LIST OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
BUT THE NEXT STEPS, ONCE AGAIN, ARE THE, UH, GEO PUBLIC MEETINGS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL, UH, DECEMBER 16TH, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING ONE AND JANUARY 6TH.
UH, WE ARE HOPING TO GET A FINAL APPROVAL LISTING FROM COUNCIL APPROVED ON JANUARY 20TH.
AND THEN THE LAST DATE OF CALL FOR THE ELECTION IS FEBRUARY 3RD.
THAT'S WHEN WE'D HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE, I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE THINGS AND AGREE UPON EVERYTHING BY THEN.
I THINK, IN MY OPINION, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS NEEDS, HEY GANG, ONE MEETING.
NO, ON A, ON A, ON A VOTE LIKE THIS, IN MY OPINION, I
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THINK WE NEED TO GET EVERYTHING LINED OUT.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO TO THE VOTERS WITH A UNANIMOUS DECISION TO GO TO 'EM.
UM, I, I CAN'T ASK TELL YOU THAT'S THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE, BUT I, I THINK Y'ALL ALL KNOW IT'S EASIER TO, FOR THE PUBLIC CITIZENS TO KNOW WE'VE SPENT OUR TIME TIME LOOKING AT THIS AND WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY AND WE'D LOVE YOUR, AND WE'RE GETTING OUR STAMP OF APPROVAL ON IT.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN, HEY, WE'RE JUST GONNA LET THEM VOTE.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING, WE'RE WANTING THIS TO PASS.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIMELINE.
UH, THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, UH, WE BUILT SHADY GROVE FROM BELTLINE ROY, OR WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL BEFORE.
CAN SOMEBODY DIG UP WHEN WE DID THAT? YEAH, WE CAN DIG THAT UP.
THAT WAY WE'VE GOT A KIND OF AN IDEA OF HOW LONG IT LASTS SOMEBODY TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
AND ALSO, CAN I FIND OUT THAT WE HAD TO LAST BOND OR STREETS? SURE.
SEEMS LIKE IT'D BEEN A LONG TIME.
GENERALLY WOULD DO COS INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE GOS, RIGHT.
AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A BOND ELECTION, NOT JUST, I THINK YOU ARE.
OR ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE FLOAT OUR OWN BONDS, WE HAVE A BOND ELECTION.
SO WHAT TYPE OF, UM, PLAN DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE MEETING IS GOING.
I SAW THE TIMELINE THAT THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU ALL GONNA HAVE PUBLIC HEARING? WHERE, HOW? RIGHT NOW, DURING COUNCIL, DURING COUNCIL, THIS WILL BE, WE GONNA BE DURING COUNCIL UHHUH
SO THERE'S NO PLAN TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC HERE IN THE MEETINGS.
WE'RE GONNA ADVERTISE IT AND THEN CAN COME HERE.
BUT NO ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION.
SO THERE ARE VERY CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT WE HAVE.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS, UH, WE CAN PROMOTE, WE CAN JUST INFORM AND EDUCATE.
WE DO HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT WE, THAT WE DO HAVE.
BUT WE DO MAKE, BUT WE CAN MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS AND SHOW THEM HERE'S WHAT IT IS, BUT WE CANNOT PROMOTE IT.
SO YOU CAN SHOW UP AT A PI MEETING OR A YOU THAT'S CORRECT.
AND EXPLAIN THE ROTARY CLUB OR THE CHAMBER.
IS THERE A PLAN TO DO THAT? WE WILL NEED ASSISTANCE AND PROBABLY EVEN HELP, BUT YES, THERE IS A PLAN.
AND THAT USUALLY HAPPENS, HAPPENS AFTER FEB, BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND THE ELECTION.
WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS PREPARED AS WELL FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE.
IT'LL BE A, WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED WEBSITE AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SPECIFIC, UH, PLACES THAT WE WILL, UH, PROVIDE THAT EDUCATION COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM.
WHEN WE DID THE CENT SALES TEXT FOR THE EPIC, A NUMBER OF US HELD ME, HAD WENT TO EVENTS, ROTARY CLUBS, CHAMBERS, AND EXPLAINED AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS.
WE'D HAVE STAFF MEMBER THERE TO KEEP AND WE WOULD, IT IS A FINE LINE WE COULDN'T PROMOTE, BUT WE WOULD EXPLAIN MM-HMM
AND THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE FEBRUARY 3RD VOTE AND THE FEBRUARY 3RD COUNCIL MEETING.
AND WE'D ASK YOU TO, ANY COUNCILMAN THAT WANTS TO, WE'D GIVE YOU THE PROPER STUFF TO TALK ABOUT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT STAFF COULD LOOK AT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CENTER, UM, AND WE COULD PROBABLY DO THIS WITH THE EXISTING CENTER, BUT WE DO HAVE A LARGE POPULATION OF, UM, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT ABILITIES.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES OUT THERE AND IT'S MOSTLY ALL OUTDOORS.
BUT IF WE COULD TRY TO LOOK EITHER EXISTING REC CENTER OR THIS CENTER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WHERE THE SPACE FOR THEM AS WELL.
'CAUSE ONCE THEY TURN 18, THEY'RE OUT OF SCHOOL.
THERE'S REALLY NO MUCH PROGRAMMING HAPPENING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS MUCH.
AND WE JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR 18 OVER POPULATION WHERE THEY GO SOMEWHERE AND HAVE SAFE SPACE.
UH, WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S TOO CLOSE.
THEY HAVE OUTDOOR PROGRAMMING THAT THEY STILL HAVE A CENTER SET UP PORTION OF THE CENTER WHERE THEY COULD DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
LIFE SKILLS, YOU KNOW, UM, DIFFERENT LESSONS OR WHATEVER.
SO SOMETHING, CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD TIE THIS TO THIS CENTER OR, UH, EXISTING REC CENTER.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN IRVING.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT? WHERE IT'S PARTIALLY PROGRAMMED THAT WAY FOR, IT'S LIKE A AFTER, UM, DURING THE DAY, MONDAY TO FRIDAY, THEY GO FROM EIGHT TO FIVE AND THEY GET LIFE SKILLS.
THEY GO GET TRAINING, DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS AND, AND
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THEN AFTERWARDS, AFTER 5:00 PM THAT TEENAGERS USE AS THEIR TEEN CENTER.SO A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE FOR A TEEN CENTER.
AFTER, AFTER THAT THEY SHARE THE SPACE.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL UH, POWELL? YES SIR.
UH, WHAT IS THE CURRENT OPEN BONDING CAPACITY RIGHT NOW? TO KEEP THE TAX RATE WHERE IT IS? WE AVERAGE OUT ONCE AGAIN ABOUT 48 MILLION A YEAR.
UH, AND THAT'S, WE TYPICALLY, FOR OUR COS WE WILL TEND TO DO ABOUT 30, 40 MILLION A YEAR.
I GUESS I'M NOT ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
IF, IF WE WANTED TO ISSUE THE, THESE BONDS, HOW MUCH COULD WE DO RIGHT NOW WITHOUT RAISING A TAX RATE TODAY? NONE.
IT WOULD BE VERY LITTLE IN ORDER TO DO THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE.
'CAUSE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THERE.
HOW MUCH COULD WE DO WITHOUT? HOW MUCH COULD WE DO? 10 MILLION WITHOUT RAISING IT? IT, YEAH.
WE, WE'D HAVE TO GET THE EXACT AMOUNT.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH DEBT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.
THE QUESTION THOUGH IS AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE.
SO AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE THAT WE COULD GO TO.
WHAT WE, WE, WE PRETTY MUCH ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE AT THE LIMIT WITH THE ISSUANCE OF OUR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION WITH COS.
AND WE'RE LIMITED BY STATE ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH COS.
I I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THAT.
I'M LIKE YOU, DOES THAT NOT INCREASE OUR DEBT? AND IT DEPENDS ON OTHER FACTORS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEBT.
I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAX VALUES.
SO THE THINGS LIKE THE AFCS, IT'S A KIND OF A MOVING TARGET.
SO I MEAN, WELL, WE DON'T, OUR BUDGET DIDN'T HAVE OKAY.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WAS LEFT OVER IN OUR BUDGET COULD BE THEORETICALLY USED TO PAY DOWN DEBT.
BUT OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW IS HOLDING PRETTY STEADY TO BUDGET.
AND HOW MUCH, UH, AND, AND THE BUDGET WE PASSED DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF CASH GOING TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
SO THAT MEANS, JUST LIKE OUR OWN HOUSEHOLD, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY CASH COMING IN TO GO OUT AND GET ANOTHER LOAN.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONTHLY PAY CASH FLOW TO PAY THE DEBT.
BUT TONY, WHEN YOU SAY NOT BETTER OFF.
OUR, OUR BUDGET WAS PRETTY TIGHT.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE EXTRA MONEY.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SALES TAX EVERY MONTH.
NOW, UH, EVERY MONTH I LOOK AT IT, UH, WE HAVE A GOOD MONTH AND HAVE A BAD MONTH, AND WE'RE RIGHT AT A HALF A HALF A PENNY WITHIN BUDGET RIGHT NOW ON SALES TAX.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY UM, BONDS DO WE HAVE THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEES? BASICALLY OUR 2019 BONDS.
BUT, UM, I MEAN THAT WILL ONLY GIVE YOU MAYBE LIKE ABOUT A MILLION OR SO, BUT WE HAVE TO RUN THE NUMBERS.
IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEFINITELY AFFORD, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.
TO DO THESE THINGS, WE GOTTA GO TO THE VOTERS.
IF, IF SOME OF IT, IF ONE OF THE SMALLER ONES FAILS, WE'LL HAVE TO MAYBE LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH CAN WE INCREASE THE BUDGET WITHOUT GOING TO THE VOTERS FOR SALES TAX IN A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE? BUT THAT REFI WOULDN'T INCREASE OUR CAPACITY.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU RE SO THAT REFI WOULDN'T INCREASE OUR CAPACITY.
IT JUST SAVES UNDER THE TAX RATE.
IT SAVES MONEY IN THE LONG RUN FOR THE INTEREST RATE THAT YOU WOULD PAY.
SO IT, IT DECREASES LONG-TERM PAYMENTS.
BUT DOES IT DECREASE THE MONTHLY PAYMENT? IT SHOULD.
THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS TAXABLE VALUE GROWTH.
I MEAN, AND RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T KNOW REALLY WHERE THAT'S GONNA GO.
WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME GROWTH, BUT NO, SIMPLIFY THE QUESTION.
WHEN WE REFINANCE, DOES IT DECREASE OUR MONTHLY CASH? IT GET MORE CAPACITY? WE HAVE, IT DEPENDS.
RATE THAT WE CURRENTLY IT DOES IT ONLY MUCH, BUT NOT VERY MUCH SIGNIFICANTLY ENOUGH.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REFINANCING YOUR HOUSE FROM A 15 YEAR NOTE TO A 30 YEAR NOTE.
BUT YOU STILL, YOU'RE STRETCHING THE PAYMENT.
YOU'RE IF YOU PAY OFF THE DEBT EARLY.
RIGHT? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT OVERALL DEBT.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE CAPACITY TO
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FUND SOME OF THE PROJECTS WITHOUT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.AND, AND REMEMBER SOME OF THE INTEREST RATES THAT WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO WERE MUCH LOWER THAN NOW.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SAVINGS THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD BY REFINANCING.
AND YOU SAID ONLY ONE IS ELIGIBLE ABOUT ABOUT TWO.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS WE WANT TO TAKE ANY OF THESE OFF AND TRY TO FUND IT THAT WAY.
WELL, WELL, WELL THE REASON I ASK THAT IS WE DID TALK ABOUT MAYBE USING, UH, PARKS FUNDING FOR A COUPLE OF, TO PAY FOR THE STAFF.
OH, JUST STAFF ONLY, NOT DEBT.
THE LONG, I WAS TRYING TO LONG, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
WE CAN AFFORD TO BUILD IT, BUT CAN WE STAFF IT? OKAY.
AND THAT'S THE PARKS, THAT'S THE PARK FUND.
THAT'S WHY I WANNA PUT IT 'CAUSE THAT'S A PERPETUAL QUARTER DESCENT THAT GROWS WITH AS OUR SALES TAX GROWS.
CAN I, CAN I GET A CAN, CAN YOU GET ME LATER TA BREAKDOWN OF LET'S SAY THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OF THE 33 MIL IN GO BONDS THAT WE DO? YES, SIR.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT'S FOR.
AND SO I COULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT JUST TO ALL OF US.
I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE IT, WE MAY NOT OPEN IT, BUT GIVE IT TO ALL OF US.
IT MAY, IT MAY BE A LOT OF REPEAT STUFF IS WHAT I'M WONDERING.
AND WE MOVE ON ANYTIME WE GET NEW SYSTEMS, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THAT THAT'S ANOTHER PERPETUAL COST FOREVER ON.
SEE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU THINK OF, BECAUSE THEY CHARGE YOU.
THEY, THEY DON'T SELL YOU THE PRODUCT ANYMORE.
THEY CHARGE YOU TO USE THE PRODUCT EVERY YEAR.
THAT'S ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL MICROSOFT THAT YOU GOTTA, GOTTA CONSIDER.
SO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WE GOTTA ALWAYS HAVE THE NEWEST FANCIEST SYSTEM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
SO WHEN WE STRUCTURE THE PACKAGE, I KNOW IT HAS TO BE PROJECT SPECIFIC.
SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT, SAY FOR INSTANCE THE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, SUBSTATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO GRANULAR THAT IF WE SAY RESOURCE CENTER, IT COULD BE A LIBRARY.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS STILL HAS TO GET THROUGH OUR BOND COUNSEL AND OUR, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
UM, THE, THEY'VE TIGHTENED THAT.
SO THINGS THAT WE WENT FOR THE BOND ELECTION IN 21, IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULDN'T PASS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NOWADAYS FOR THAT SAME LANGUAGE.
IT HAS TO BE MORE, IT HAS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
AND UH, THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT ALSO IS IF YOU DO IT VERY BROAD AND THEN IT DOESN'T PASS, LET'S JUST SAY WE JUST SAID, HEY, WE ARE USING $250 MILLION FOR STREETS.
IF THAT FAILS, WE CAN NO LONGER USE CO DEBT FOR ANY STREETS BECAUSE YOU JUST LEFT IT SO BROAD THAT YOU CAN NO LONGER ISSUE DEBT FOR STREETS FOR ANY KIND OF THREE YEAR.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASED ON THEIR NEW LAWS.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE REQUIREMENT NOW IS WHATEVER FAILS, IF YOU MAKE IT TOO BROAD, YOU WIPE OUT THAT ENTIRE CATEGORY FOR THREE YEARS.
THAT'S WHY I WAS QUESTIONING LIKE RESOURCE CENTER.
SOME OF THAT IS, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THERE TIME TO, TO KIND OF DEFINE DOWN? AND SOME OF THIS IS BROUGHT JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR DISCUSSION ON WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WANT AT THE END OF THE DAY ALSO.
SO AFTER THIS FEEDBACK, YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT IT AGAIN TO US TO LOOK AT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY, WE GET IT AGAIN IN TWO DECEMBER 14TH, TWO WEEKS WE GET IT AGAIN.
BECAUSE I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THIS TODAY MM-HMM
UNTIL I TALKED TO CHERYL EARLIER.
AND SO I WAS KIND OF A LITTLE SIDESWIPED TO KNOW THAT WE WERE GONNA DIVE THIS DEEP INTO SOMETHING AND, UM, WASN'T PREPARED TO LOOK AT IT.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
MAYBE LAST WEEK, WEEK BEFORE LAST WHEN WE GOT STUFF, WHEN IT ORIGINALLY WAS POSTED, I THOUGHT ALL IT WAS WAS GOAL, GOAL SETTING.
SO THIS, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO GET EARLIER.
THIS, THIS, SIR, WE GOT IT EARLIER THAN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON ITEM ONE.
I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY, SORRY.
THE MEETING AT SIX 30, UH, ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY, WHAT HAVE WE DISCUSSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, ANY BONDS AND GOAL SETTING? THE PUBLIC SAFETY CATEGORY IS THE SECOND LARGEST CATEGORY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL 80, UH, SIX POINT MILLION, $86.5 MILLION, UH, BOND PACKAGE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND HOW, AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE 1984 AND 1990 PUBLIC SAFETY BOND COMMITTEE.
HOW ARE WE GONNA BREAK THAT DOWN? I JUST HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE STREETS WHILE WILL THAT BE BROKEN? I CAN GO BACK THROUGH WITH YOU ON THE, THE THREE MAJOR
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PROJECT CATEGORIES UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FIRST ONE.UH, THE SECOND ONE, YOU MISSED THE PRESENTATION.
MADE A REAL GOOD PRESENTATION.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE NO, THAT'LL BE THE THIRD ONE IS THE, THE TRAFFIC COMMUNICATION NETWORK.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAJOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
BUT I CAN GIVE YOU THE PRESENTATION.
[2. City Council’s 2026 Goals]
ALL RIGHT.AND SEE, I THINK ALL, A LOT OF THINGS WE DISCUSSED HAS TO DO WITH ADAM TWO BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOAL SETTING, WE'RE PUTTING ON THE BOND PACKAGE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER OUR CITY COUNCIL GOAL SETTING.
WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON OUR CURRENT GOALS, WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
WELL I'M GONNA SWITCH AND USE SOMETHING Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW WE HAVE.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE IT WORK.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA DRAW, I'M GONNA MARK THINGS UP WHILE WE TALK.
SO T TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE GOALS ON HERE, THE FOURTH ONE DOWN, PREPARE POTENTIAL, UM, MAY 26TH BOND PACKAGE.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING INTO THAT PARTICULAR GOAL.
DOES THE CITY COUNCIL WANT TO CONSIDER MOVING WHAT'S CURRENTLY TWO INDIVIDUAL GOALS? THE MULTI CENTER AND THE PICKLEBALL COURT? SHOULD I MOVE THOSE UNDER THAT BOND PACKAGE? YEAH.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE FULFILLING THAT THOSE IN THE BOND PACKAGE.
AND I CAN, I CAN JUST ITEMIZE IT UNDER THERE.
IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE 'EM PULL OUT.
THEN SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THE CITY COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING THESE GOALS FORWARD TO 26? DO YOU WANNA KEEP THESE GOALS? I, I GOT SOME INPUT BACK.
BESSIE HAS ONE I THINK SHE WANTS TO PUT UP FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT I DIDN'T GET OTHER INPUT FROM THE COUNSEL, WHICH LED ME TO BELIEVE Y'ALL MAY BE COMFORTABLE MOVING THESE FORWARD.
SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO CHANGE.
UH, I, WE HAVE ENOUGH APARTMENTS THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE ATTAINABLE.
I THINK WE REALLY WANT THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WE BUILT AT ALICE COURT.
WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE HFC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT APARTMENTS THAT SUPPOSEDLY SET ASIDE 10% OF THEIR CORRECT.
AND, AND SEE WHEN PEOPLE READ THAT, THEY THINK, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU WANT MORE HFCS IN YOUR TOWN? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
THAT WE WANT MORE SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY.
LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF ALICE COURT.
SO WE COULD CHANGE THAT MAYOR TO PURSUE ATTAINABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.
AND, AND, AND I I THINK THAT'S, IS THAT OKAY? OH YEAH.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, GO AS FAR AS TO SAY IS THE, THE, THE, THE MORE, MORE THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT HOW WE DID THE FINANCING FOR ALICE COURT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED UPFRONT MONEY.
UH, IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF AND THAT UPFRONT MONEY GETS PAID BACK.
I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD, I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE SPORTS COURT, BUT THE SPORTS COURT SITTING ON MONEY THAT I THINK WE COULD GET FOUR VOTES OR EVEN UNANIMOUS TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME UPFRONT MONEY IF Y'ALL FOUND LOCATIONS.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST BASICALLY ALONG.
SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND GO, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CHANGED HERE.
WE KNOW Y'ALL CHANGED WHAT WE WANT, BUT I WANT STAFF TO LOOK AT POSSIBILITIES.
'CAUSE WE'D BE WILLING TO MAKE SOME LOANS.
I TOLD BILL WE WOULD UNTIL, BUT THEN THEY, WE HAD SOMEBODY STEP UP AND SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
MAYOR AND THE, I THINK WE, WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO ALL THAT.
MAYOR, THE KEY IS, IS THAT THAT UPFRONT MONEY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LOANED TO THE, TO THE CHODOS.
AND WE ALSO UTILIZE AND LEVERAGE OUR HOME MONEY AS HOWEVER Y'ALL DO IT.
TO BUY, TO BUY THE HOME STACK.
WE WOULD BE THE UH, UH, LONE STAR PARK, UH, BANK I THERE.
HOW DOES, UH, CHARITABLE HOUSING SOUTH OF LAKE NUMBER NINE, SHOULD IT BE THE SAME OR SIMILAR? BECAUSE YOURSELF STILL OBTAINABLE HOUSING, BUT WE
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UH, DO WE JUST SCRATCH IT? SCRATCH IT SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER.AND JUST LEAVE THE MORE BROAD.
OTHER EDITS BEFORE WE MOVE THESE FORWARD TO 26 AND THEN LOOK AT EITHER POSSIBLY NEW GOALS.
SINCE WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING NUMBER SIX.
DO WE NEED TO KEEP HAVING IT ON HERE? I, I'D TAKE SIX OFF REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN.
YOU THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IT? WE WE'RE, WELL, WE'RE DOING IT.
I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE WELL THEN LEAVE IT.
BUT SEE, WE'RE, WELL LET ME JUST, LEMME JUST SAY THE REASON I, I PUT A LOT OF ATTENTION INTO SOME OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE GOALS ON THE WALL AND WE, THEY'RE NOT NOT SMART GOALS.
AND SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT CONTINUING THE RENOVATION OF DOWNTOWN AND SEVERAL OF THE GOALS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE HAVE EVEN CONSIDERED IF IT WAS ATTAINABLE OR REALISTIC AND THERE'S DEFINITELY NO TIMELINE.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT I PRESENTED AS FAR AS NOT NECESSARILY CHANGING SOME OF THE GOALS, BUT MAKING BE MORE SPECIFIC AND MORE DRILL DOWN.
BECAUSE WE'RE JUST THROWING THINGS ON THE WALL TO SAY, IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN? CO SO COUNCILMAN ADAMS, TO THAT POINT, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO SHORT TERM ON DOWNTOWN.
WE'RE BUILDING APARTMENTS, WE'RE DOING THE LAWN.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT ON THE LIST.
WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON THE LIST.
OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO AFTER MAIN STREET WE'VE MOVED IN.
IS THAT A PHASE ONE? IS THERE A PHASE TWO? THAT'S PHASE TWO.
ARE WE GONNA, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE, LEAVE IT ON THERE AND JUST BE MORE PHASE TWO.
AND AS FAR AS FOR FACING SO MUCH DETAIL.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK GOOD POINT TO A DOCUMENT, WE CAN MEASURE IT AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OBTAINING THE GOAL.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH IN THE, IN JANUARY IS A FULL BLOWN PRESENTATION THAT IS GONNA GIVE YOU 100% WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR REGARDING DOWNTOWN.
IT'LL GIVE YOU THE TIMELINE, IT WILL GIVE YOU THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE WORKING WITH.
BUT WHAT I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS AFTER THIS, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE FULFILL AND AFTER MAIN STREETS DOWNTOWN, THEN OUR GOAL WOULD BE HOW DO WE REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN? AND WHAT IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE YES.
AND I, AND I KEEP SAYING, I THINK WE PUTTING THE AND AGREE BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SETTING THE COUNCIL GOALS, I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH PARAMETERS OR INFORMATION YEAH.
FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
AND SO THEN YOU COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU ASSUMED WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT MISSING THE MARK 'CAUSE YOU ARE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING, YOU'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S AN AFTER FACT.
AND AND THE UPDATE SHOULD ALIGN WITH NOT ONLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING SPECIFICALLY, BUT AGAIN, AND THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD WE HAD A CONVERSATION, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHERYL IS THAT WE CANNOT SET, WELL SHE EXPLAINED THAT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE SETTING TONIGHT, IT'S GONNA IMPACT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS BACKWARDS.
LIKE HOW CAN WE ADOPT A BUDGET AND THEN SET PRIORITY.
AND SO IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S THE CYCLE, THAT'S THEN WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE'RE SETTING NOW IS REALLY FOR A BUDGET THAT'S GONNA BE CREATED FOR 2027.
BECAUSE WE START CREATING IT IN FEBRUARY.
AND, UH, TO THAT POINT RIGHT NOW, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL GOALS.
YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE UPDATE.
AND IN THE UPDATE, WHAT IT DOES DO, IT GIVES YOU THE STATUS UPDATE AS OF 25.
UM, WHAT IT DOES IS IT JUST TELLS YOU THE UPDATES AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
SO SOME OF THE INFORMATION COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING IS PART OF IT.
I THINK YOU'RE WANTING A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENSIVE.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT PART OF IT, I WANT A LITTLE BIT, I WANTED IT PRESENTED AHEAD OF TIME.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THE, FOR FOR INSTANCE NUMBER TWO, NOT NUMBER TWO, WE SHOULD PUT THESE IN ORDER.
WHICH IS EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR STRATEGIC SUPPLIERS AND CITY CONTRACTS AND PROJECT.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IS THE GOAL? UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A UPCOMING ORDINANCE THAT WAS TABLED EARLIER.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE GOAL? OKAY, I HAVE STATED, I HAVE STATED OVER AND OVER 30%.
IS THAT GOAL GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA SET OR SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA ATTEMPT TO DO? AND IS IT GONNA BE REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON PRETTY SOON? WHAT'S THE 30% YOU'RE REFERRING TO E EXPLAIN ON THAT BECAUSE
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I HAVE NO IDEA.WHAT WE BE SAYING GOES FOR 30%, 30% FOR SMALL BUSINESS, FOR SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
YOU CAN, YOU SET ASIDE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SET ASIDE FOR.
SO HOW YOU, HOW ARE YOU GONNA JUSTIFY 30% FOR, FOR EIGHT? HOW ARE WE JUSTIFYING A SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE? NO, YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PIVOTING.
WE'RE PIVOTING FROM A WOMEN MINORITY OWNED ENTERPRISE.
ARE WE ORDINANCE THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED DOWN AND WE'RE PIVOTING TO SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE SO THAT WE CAN BE A CITY THAT WELCOME, EXPLAIN SMALL BUSINESS LEGALLY 30% IS A ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.
AND IT'S BASED ON, NO, IT'S NEXT.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR DISPARITY STUDY, IT TELLS YOU WHAT OUR MARKET CAN PRODUCE AND WHAT WE CAN ATTRACT AND WHAT WE CAN, EXCUSE ME.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NO MEASURE.
HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT WE HAVE APPLIED NOT ANY STATE OF FEDERAL FUNDING? I THINK WE'LL BE DE THE CITY.
WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY RIGHT HERE.
ARE WE, IF WE SET AN ATTAINABLE GOAL FOR A SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, WE CAN, BECAUSE OTHER DISTRICTS AND OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT, THAT'S THEM.
WE CANNOT SET A, AN ACTUAL SET GOAL.
YOU CANNOT HAVE A SET GOAL ANYMORE.
WHAT WE WILL PROPOSE, UM, IS AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL TO BE REACHED OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
UM, GENERALLY A FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
BUT YOU CANNOT DISQUALIFY SOMEONE IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT GOAL.
IT'S, IT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I TELL YOU, THAT'S WHY YOU SET ASPIRATIONAL, ASPIRATIONAL, ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.
THERE ARE OTHER PEER CITIES THAT ARE SETTING ASPIRATIONAL GOALS.
AND WITHIN THE CONFINES OF A STATE, UH, INCENTIVIZED, ENCOURAGED SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
SO HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN'T ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT THE STATE HAS A ROAD SHOW FROM CITY TO CITY SAYING THEY ARE ENCOURAGING SMALL BUSINESSES.
I'M NOT, WE ARE NOT USING THIS TERM SMALL BUSINESSES FOR BLACK AND BROWN.
WE'RE USING SMALL BUSINESS FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
BUT WE NEVER SPOKE ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS ABOUT REVITALIZING MAIN STREET OR DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEVER HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT, SHE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SHE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT, SHE'S ON NUMBER EIGHT.
AND, AND THESE, THIS IS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT NOT DOWNTOWN I PRESENTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW ONE WITH THE HANDSHAKE.
AND I CAN GO BACK TO NUMBER 'EM.
SO THEY'RE EASIER TO REFER TO THE, UH, ASPIRATIONAL GOALS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ARE LEGAL.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS THE SAME THING.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, WITH EVEN EDUCATION.
IT'S HARD TO GET 'EM TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T KEEP TRYING.
SO, UH, 30% TO ME IS WAY TOO HIGH.
'CAUSE UH, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CAN EVEN DO BUSINESS.
WE DON'T DO THAT MUCH BUSINESS THAT A SMALL BUSINESS CAN DO.
THE CITY ITSELF, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS GENERATED IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT NOT BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
IF YOU LOOK WHAT WE BET OUT, THERE'S SO, BUT AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL IS LEGAL AND WE NEED TO WORK ON IT.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WERE YOU THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER? BE I I DO, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PART OF THE, THE REQUEST IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS A SMART GOAL IS WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE, THAT'S MY PERCENTAGE.
I'VE BEEN SAYING 30% BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE, THE QUANTITATIVE QUALITATIVE DATA SAID 27 POINT SOMETHING.
AND DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT IT IS 27%.
AND WE'RE NOT, WHEN I SAY LOCAL, BUT THAT'S JUST ALL OF THOSE, WHEN I SAY LOCAL, I'M NOT SAYING JUST GRAND PRAIRIE, WE HAVE COUNTIES.
SO MANY COUNTIES THAT IT'S CONSIDERED LOCAL.
AND THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THAT 10 TO 15 POINT SPREAD FOUR GRAND PRAIRIE BUSINESSES.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE FAVORABLE OR A GOOD CITY TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES, THEN LET'S, LET'S BE ABOUT IT BECAUSE, OR DON'T HAVE IT AS A GOAL.
JUST SAYING IT GOOD OR DON'T HAVE IT AS A GOAL.
SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEASURES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT SHOULD BE A GOAL.
AND THEN YOU ALL TELL US FROM STAFF HOW, IF YOU'VE MADE IT OR IF YOU DIDN'T, IT'S NOT A GRADE, IT'S JUST AN ASPIRATION.
AND THE TIME LIMIT, I THINK 10 YEARS, FIVE YEARS IS TOO MUCH.
I THINK MAYBE WE CAN SAY THREE
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YEARS.BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A COUNCIL WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND SET THAT STANDARD, WHICH WILL GO INTO OUR ORDINANCE.
AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO CIRCLE AROUND AND HAVE THE TABLE ANOTHER ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT MISWORDED IDENTIFYING MORE SPECIFICALLY.
CAN IT BE AN ORDINANCE? WELL, WE GOTTA REPLACE AN ORDINANCE.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT I TAKEN.
SHE SAID WE ACTUALLY THERE WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, A WOMEN, SMALL WOMEN BUSINESS OWNED ORDINANCE ON THE BUS.
WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE REPLACING? WE ARE, WE ARE NOT REPLACING ANYTHING.
WE ARE BRINGING FORTH A SMALL BUSINESS, UM, ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING DOWN.
WE ARE RESCINDING A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED PREVIOUSLY IN 2020 ORDINANCE.
AND THE RESOLUTION WAS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION.
SO WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THAT BE RESCINDED DUE TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
AND THEN THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING ALTOGETHER NEW AS AN ORDINANCE.
UH, YOU GOOD FOR NOW? WELL, YOU CAN COME BACK LATER ON IF YOU WANT TO.
COUNCILMAN, WE'RE HEADING, UH, TWO THINGS.
I AGREE WITH KEEPING THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE THIS ON THE WEBSITE OR WHEN THEY COME TO CITY HALL, IT'S ENCOURAGING AND UNTIL IT LOOKS REVITALIZED, I THEN I JUST THINK THIS NEEDS TO JUST STAY THERE.
SECOND THING, UM, OR THE SECOND FROM LAST, DEVELOP AN INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER PLAN TO CONSIST OF LAST BULLET POINT, HIGHER EDUCATION.
UM, I'M SUGGESTING MAYBE WE ADD SEEK HIGHER EDUCATION PARTNERSHIP OR SOME KIND OF PHRASING AS A WHOLE NEW ITEM.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
IT'S A MATTER OF FINDING SOME INSTITUTION THAT WOULD EVEN WANT TO PARTNER WITH US TO BRING SOMETHING HERE.
AND JUST TO PUT THAT UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, I DON'T REALLY THINK IS THE WHOLE ISSUE.
NO, IT SHOULDN GO UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
UH, SO I'M SUGGESTING MOVING THE HIGHER SEEKING HIGHER EDUCATION, UH, PARTNERSHIP FACILITY.
SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON THE VERBIAGE TO BE ITS OWN ITEM.
IT'S ALSO WITH THE JOB CREATION.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO PROPOSE A FIVE YEAR COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF JOB CREATION.
SO THAT SHOULD BE A, A SEPARATE, UM, GOAL AS WELL.
WE DON'T WANNA STEP ON TONY'S TOES THERE.
NO, IT AIN'T, THAT'S NOT STEPPING ON.
YOU AIN'T GONNA STEP ON MY TOES.
THE, UH, THAT AIN'T, YOU KNOW, MY TOES ARE A LONG WAY AWAY THERE.
I'VE ALWAYS FELT, I'VE ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE WE HAVE ARE THE BROKERS FOR THE LANDOWNERS.
BUT THAT BROKER THAT IS GONNA GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS TO GET MODINE IN THAT BUILDING IS THE ONES THAT GET INCENTIVIZED.
WE HAVE SPACE AVAILABLE, HOWEVER YOU WORD IT OR WHAT JIM SWOFFORD USED TO SAY.
WE GET MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COME THAT COMES HERE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR LAND AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A WAREHOUSE AND THEY CALL THAT NUMBER.
UH, UH AND WAS THAT SAID MAYOR? YES.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT A POINT THAT OUR LAND IS LIMITED AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE WANT GRAND PRAIRIE TO BE.
THE DEVELOP THE LANDOWNER, THE LANDOWNER GETS TO CHOOSE.
IF IT'S ZONED FARM, WE CAN'T EVEN PICK WHETHER IT'S APARTMENTS OR NOT ANYMORE.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ONE THAT HAS THE BIGGEST INCENTIVES, THE ONE THAT'S MAKING THE BIG BUCKS, AND THAT'S THAT BROKER THAT'S GONNA CLOSE THE DEAL.
BUT I, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM
UM, IN ORDINANCE FOR, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO FOR DISCUSSION, IT WILL BE COMING UP, WE'RE GONNA DO AN ORDINANCE, NOT A RESOLUTION.
SO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE.
CAN, CAN YOU PUT AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL IN AN ORDINANCE? SHE SAID WE CAN.
YOU CAN STATE IT AS AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.
IT'S A PIE IN THE SKY OR IT IS ATTAINABLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT NOT PIE IN THE SKY.
AND YOU JUST ADD REQUIREMENTS FOR STAFF TO MONITOR AND THEN BRING BACK REPORTING.
IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT MEETING IT, YOU CAN CHANGE IT AT THAT POINT.
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER? SHOTWELL.
OKAY, WELL YOU THREE, UH, I WASN'T GONNA ASK THIS BEFORE, BUT NOW I WILL.
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WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A ORDINANCE RATHER THAN A RESOLUTION TO HAVE THE EFFECTIVE LAW? IT NEEDS TO BE AN ORDINANCE.IN ORDER FOR US TO ENFORCE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE AN ORDINANCE.
WELL, I, SINCE IT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL, IF IT'S GONNA BE ASPIRATIONAL, YOU CAN'T ENFORCE IT ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, IT COULD BE EITHER ONE.
THAT'S CAN YOU ENFORCE A RESOLUTION? YOU CAN'T, CANNOT ENFORCE, CAN'T ENFORCE EITHER ONE OF THEM.
SO WHY, WHY WOULDN'T, WHY WOULDN'T IT COME BACK INTO RESOLUTION? THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.
SO WHY WOULDN'T IT COME BACK INTO RESOLUTION? WE'RE TALKING IN CIRCLES HERE, FOLKS.
AND IT THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THE US GOVERNMENT HAS REAL STIFF RULES ON WHEN THERE'S SMALL BUSINESS SET ASIDES AND WHEN THERE'S NOT, THOSE ARE LAWS.
UH, BUT UH, BUT YOU CAN TRY NOT TO, RIGHT? YOU CAN TRY TO.
AND WE THERE, WE CAN ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LEGAL IN WHAT WE SAY AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SPENDING MONEY WITH THAT GROUP TO TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED VENDORS THAT SAY, SAY THEY WANNA DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, ALL HUNDRED OF THEM WON'T.
WELL, BECAUSE IT, IT'S JUST THAT'S THE FACTS OF LIFE.
AND NOT JUST DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, BUT MAKING THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTING IN SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A NEW BULLET ITEM.
I I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA INVEST IN SMALL BUSINESSES.
NO, BUT WE INVEST IN LARGE BUSINESSES.
WE, WE GIVE INCENTIVES AND TAX CREDITS FOR LARGER BUSINESS.
WE WILL GIVE INCENTIVES IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY INVESTMENT.
IT'S JUST NOT MUCH TO GIVE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
BUT WE BUT TONY JUST GOT US $40,000 IN WORKING WITH UM RIGHT.
BRING US SOMETHING AND MAKES MONEY.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN GIVE YOU DO YOU A DEAL.
I'M NOT DOING IT FOR UH, BOJANGLE'S CHICKEN, BUT YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER THE NAME OF IT IS.
REBECCA HAS TO REMIND ME WHAT IT IS.
IT IS IN THE OLD BOSTON MARKET.
WHO FOR THAT? YOU GOT THAT? WE DIDN'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
WHO BOUGHT THAT? NO CHICKEN INTO MY, INTO THE DISTRICT.
COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR TOLD TIM THE BROKER FOR THAT BUILDING BROUGHT, I GUARANTEE IT AIN'T CHICKEN IF IT AIN'T GOT BONE.
IT AIN'T CHICKEN IF IT AIN'T GOT BONE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEAD, ARE YOU DONE? NO, NO.
I'M, WAIT A MINUTE, MAYOR, I WAS STILL GOING.
I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS WAS SAYING AND I WANTED TO ASK, WERE YOU KIND OF GETTING TOWARDS WHAT TONY SAID HE WANTED TO DO WITH THE PROGRAMMING AND INVESTING IN OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WITH THESE DIFFERENT CLASSES AND RESOURCES AND BRINGING BANKS IN, UM, NOT NECESSARILY CASH INVESTING IN PROGRAMMING.
THAT, THAT COULD BE NICE TO ADD AS A, AS A BULLET POINT.
I THINK THAT'S ENCOURAGING FOR OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT, THAT, I MEAN IT'S ALREADY, WE ALREADY HAVE PLANS, BUT MAYBE WE WANNA ADD IT HERE.
I THINK ONE BULLET POINT, THAT WHOLE THING WE'RE DOING WITH SMALL BUSINESS, MAYBE IT COULD BE A AND THAT INCLUDES JOB CORRECTION AND INCLUDES JOB.
THAT INCLUDES ALL THE BELOW AND ABOVE COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.
UM, I I AGREE WITH, UH, WELL GOOD.
THE OTHER FOLKS ON, ON THE, UH, DOWNTOWN THING BECAUSE REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN MEANS MORE THAN SPENDING CITY MONEY ON BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT MEANS DOING WHAT WE CAN TO GET BUSINESSES INTO THE EMPTY AREAS.
GOOD BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO, THAT AREN'T, AND THE ONES WE 42 BARBER SHOPS.
YEAH, THAT'S WE TALKED, THAT'S REVITALIZING YOUR DOWNTOWN.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LUNCH TODAY.
WHEN WE DO THAT, THEN WE COULD TAKE THIS BULLET POINT OFF MORE SPECIFIC.
UH, SECONDLY, UH, WE HAVE A DEAL HERE THAT SAYS TO SECURE A PLAN WITH THE CORE FOR THE FLOOD PLAN MITIGATION.
UH, HAS THAT EVEN STARTED? IT'S ARE WE WORKING ON IT'S IT'S WORKING ON, OKAY.
THEN, THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO MAYBE USE THAT SAME WORDING ON ATTRACT, UH, GROCERY STORES.
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NOT JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO WORK TO ATTRACT THEM.LET'S SECURE SOME GROCERY STORES FOR THESE, THESE FOOD DESERTS.
LET'S JUST NOT, NOT, LET'S DON'T SAY WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IT.
OUR GOAL IS TO DO IT, NOT WORK ON IT.
SO, SO CAN WE CHANGE THAT WORDING TO THAT? WE ARE GOING TO, TO DO IT.
LET'S PUT THE, THE GOAL IS OUT THERE.
LET'S JUST SCRATCH OUT WORK TWO AND SAY ATTRACT IT WON'T CHANGE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
CHANGE THE WORDS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO.
MAYOR TONY, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, WE BOTH KNOW WE, IF IT'S A GOAL OF THIS COUNCIL TO DO THAT, THEN IT'LL GET, I I I BELIEVE IT'LL GET DONE.
SHOULD IT NEW YORK? IT HAS BEEN A GOAL.
UH, I THINK IF WE, UH, WE'VE EVEN OFFERED SOME INCENTIVES, BUT SOME OF 'EM, THEY STILL DON'T MAKE THE MATH WORK.
AND THAT, THAT INCENTIVE DEAL.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF INCENTIVES FOR EVEN FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
JUST MOVE IT INTO THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IS IT, IS INVESTING IN A SMALL BUSINESS.
MIKE
AND BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SELL TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT WAS
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT BUILT THESE TONY.
BUT IT'S, BUT THAT'S A WAY TO INVEST IN SMALL BUSINESS.
JUST MOVE IT INTO AN ENTERPRISE ZONE TO GET 'EM A LITTLE TAX BREAK.
HAVE YOU TAKEN GOOD NOTES? UM, I'M NOT CLEAR ON, SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS ASPECT UNDER EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES TO STRATEGIC SUPPLIERS IN CITY CONTRACT.
WE'RE GONNA CHANGE PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THAT AND WORD IT TO WHERE IT INCLUDES OUR SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO IT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THAT GOAL.
I KNOW THAT, UH, CHERYL AND COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS HAD A DISCUSSION.
WE KNOW BASICALLY WHAT WE NEED TO ADD INTO THERE.
SO I'M GONNA CROSS THROUGH 2025 AND I'M ALL RIGHT.
ARE Y'ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? NO.
WE GOT ONE MORE THING TO DISCUSS.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, OKAY, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER 10.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
I DIDN'T NUMBER 'EM BECAUSE NUMBER, THAT'S GREEN ENERGY THAN THE OTHER.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, PUT MORE SPECIFICS AROUND, UM, GREEN ENERGY INITIATIVE VERSUS GREEN SPACE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WITH GREEN ENERGY, ONE OF THE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS.
NOW THIS MAY BE LOFTY, SO I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT WE UPDATE OUR NON-EMERGENCY FLEET MANAGEMENT TO INCLUDE MORE SMART VEHICLES.
NOW I PUT 40% WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
WELL, HERE'S WHAT, BUT WE WANNA PUT SOME, WHAT I WOULD SAY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HOW MANY NEW CARS WE'RE GONNA BUY.
AND WE DON'T WANNA OVERBUY AND WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE MONEY TO MEET THAT GOAL.
WE WANT, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE UPGRADE.
WE WANT A PERCENTAGE OF NEW ONES.
WE MAY HAVE AN UPDATE IN THE NEXT, IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR MUNICIPAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THAT COVERS A LOT OF THIS GREEN ENERGY TYPES OF INITIATIVES.
SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING THAT TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO WE WILL BE COMING INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL ON IT.
INCLUDE KINDA HOW MANY CARS WE BUY A YEAR.
UH, AND WE WANT, WE WANT THAT NEXT PERCENTAGE OF WE NEED THAT VEHICLES AMBULANCE RUN ON PROPANE, YOU KNOW.
NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING DO THAT.
THE PROPANE AND INCLUDE A INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CHARGING STATIONS.
SO WE NEED THE EV CHARGING STATION AND WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT CALLED? MEGAN? SO I DON'T MAKE A MUNICIPAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, BUT I DOUBT WE'RE GONNA BE FUNDING THE EV STATIONS.
THERE'S A HUGE ONE THAT JUST GOT ADDED OUT BY STARBUCKS STUDENT.
ALSO, ONE OTHER THING UNDER, ACTUALLY IT'S COUPLE ONE, BUT UNDER THE GREEN, THE GREEN ENERGY INITIATIVE, WE, WE NEED TO START BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING MORE DATA CENTERS COMING INTO OUR AREA.
ONE THING THAT I FOUND OUT AT OUR LAST NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, UH, CITY SUMMIT IS THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE TAKING SOME PRECAUTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, 'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE A DRAIN ON OUR ENERGY.
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SO WATER AND ELECTRICITY.I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SOME PROACTIVE CONVERSATIONS HERE.
HERE'S WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE RIGHT.
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DRAIN.
WE ALSO NEED TO PUT POSSIBLY AN ORDINANCE THAT IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY STORM CATASTROPHE, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO REDUCE ENERGY AND MAKE SURE ALSO THAT, UM, IN OUR ORDINANCE, WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, CAN WE DO, CAN WE DO ORDINANCE? RIGHT.
ALSO WHEN THEY JUST BE MORE PROACTIVE.
BECAUSE WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DATA CENTERS, 'CAUSE WE HAVE ONE ALREADY AND THEY ARE COMING, IF THERE'S LAND, THEY'RE COMING AND THERE IS AN ISSUE.
'CAUSE THEY ARE HUGE ENERGY, UM, USERS, BOTH WATER AND ELECTRICITY.
AND WE HAVE, UM, MR. HAROLD OUT FRONT MAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ELECTRICITY.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN THOSE, UM, AGREEMENTS THAT THEY'RE THE IF IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, THEY'RE THE FIRST TO REDUCE ENERGY.
UM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE THE OTHER DISCUSSION WAS THEY BRING IN A LOT OF JOBS AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN NOT SO MANY AFTER IT'S OVER.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, ASKING THEM FOR A COMMUNITY PROJECTS.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WITH OUR WATER RATES, BECAUSE THEY USE A, THEY CONSUME A LOT OF WATER, WE NEED TO CONSIDER ANOTHER RATE FOR THEM.
LET'S SEE IF, REMEMBER THE GUY CAME HERE ASKED ABOUT THE WATER USAGE.
HE SAID THEY WATER, IT'S GONNA RECYCLE IN HAVE VERY LITTLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA RECYCLE THE WATER.
OTHER PLANTS USE WATER, SEND 'EM BACK INTO THE, UH, SANITIZED AGAIN TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WAS FOR THE HEALTH OF THAT.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT, WHAT IT'S GOING THROUGH.
I KNOW, I THINK LITTLE DIFFERENT SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY GOING THROUGH THAT CENTER.
YOU COME RIGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM
BUT HE SAID THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED VERY LITTLE WATER ON THAT PLANT ON.
I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT FOR HEALTH REASONS.
AND I JUST WANT US TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE THEY GET HERE, WE ARE HAVING THOSE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS AND WE ARE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND PLANS IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THOSE WERE EVERYONE BEEN MAKING VIOLENT POINTS JUST AS YOU RE REORGANIZE THIS
WE CALLED IT ARTS, PERFORMING ARTS OR YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
MAKE CHANGE IT TO, TO PERFORMING ARTS.
PERFORMING ARTS OR PERFORMING SOMETHING.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN I AGREE.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INITIATIVES OUR, OUR STAFF IS DOING AND JUST, UM, LISTING IT OUT AS A GOAL.
IT JUST GIVES IT MORE PURPOSE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OUR STAFF IS DOING ALREADY, ESPECIALLY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT.
BUT HAVING IT AS, AS A GO, IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THEIR WORK THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON.
UM, AND WE CAN REPORT MORE ON SOME OF THE HERITAGE PROGRAMS AND, AND ART AND, AND THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THE COMMUNITY.
HAVEN'T BEEN REPORTING ON 'EM HERE.
'CAUSE I WAS THINKING OF BUILDING NOT WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING SO WE CAN START REPORTING THAT.
AND SEEING KIND OF THE DEPTH AND BREADTH AND MAYBE WHERE IT ALL IS LOCATED.
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? IT WILL.
AND BESSIE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT REGARDING THE DATA CENTERS.
UM, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BROUGHTEN UP IN THE PAST.
SO I WANT TO ASK MEL, IF WE CAN REQUIRE DATA CENTERS TO BE THE ONES TO POWER OFF OR REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION DURING TIMES OF ROLLING BLACKOUTS OR TIMES OF MINIMAL ENERGY.
CAN WE CHECK, CAN WE START BY PUTTING THIS THROUGH FOR A VOTE IN THE NEAR FUTURE? YEAH.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS WITH ENCORE AND WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO AS FAR AS UTILITIES AND ELECTRICITY, UM, AND WHAT THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO AND THE STATE WILL ALLOW.
AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, ESDS THAT WE HAVE DOWN SOUTH WITH THE NEW DATA CENTERS COMING IN.
SO, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN REGARDING THE WATER, ARE WE ALLOWED TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL TIER FOR WATER? SURE.
WE, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND THEN RESIDENTIAL.
CREATE A DIFFERENT TIER FOR YOU.
SO USAGE NOT AS, NOT SPECIFIC TO A CERTAIN PLANT.
A WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE PRI THE PRICE.
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YOU USE OVER 40,000 GALLONS, YOU CAN DO IT BY TIERS.THAT'S HERE BY THE AMOUNT OF THE USE, WHICH WE ALREADY DO.
WE'RE ALREADY ACTUALLY DOING THAT.
CAN WE CREATE ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR DATA CENTERS? WE HAVE FOR, WE CAN CREATE IT FOR THE USAGE.
WE ALREADY DO THAT AND WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE IT.
UH, WHY WOULD WE CREATE IT FOR ONE, SHOULD OR NOT? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BUS BUSINESSES THAT USE A LOT OF WATER THAT DON'T HAPPEN TO BE A DATA CENTER.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE ISSUES.
WE NEED TO CHARGE PEOPLE BY USAGE.
THAT, THAT, THAT THIRD UM, TIER.
WHAT IS THE NUMBER AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIER? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT.
THE, THE HIGHEST, THE ACTUAL USAGE.
WE COULD MAKE IT, WE COULD MAKE ANOTHER TIER, BUT LET'S SEE.
THE ONE THAT, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK.
YOU GOOD? COUNCILWOMAN SHOTWELL? NO, I GOT ONE.
UM, ARE WE STILL, WHENEVER WE RAISED THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE HAVE TO BUY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WE BUY FROM MM-HMM
DO YOU, DOES IT STILL GO BACK A LONG TIME AGO AT WINNING A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS PER DAY? UH, YOU JUMP UP TO ANOTHER, IF YOU, IF YOU NEEDED 30,000, YOU'D HAVE TO BUY 5,000 THOUSAND.
IT'S STILL A BIG CHUNK LIKE THAT.
IT'S STILL THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND A BIG JUMP.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE DO THOSE RATIONING SOMETIMES.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO HOP TO THE NEXT TIER.
WELL YOU, THERE'S A LAWSUIT GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON THIS, ON THE, UH, DEATH STAR BILL THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THAT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT ENDS UP.
AND PART OF THAT IS YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T, YOU CAN'T MAKE 'EM BUY, USE OR LOSE IT.
YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T WATER THEIR YARDS.
THAT THAT WAS PART OF, SO THAT'S PART OF WELL, THAT'D BE INTERESTING.
BUT, UH, IF, IF IT'S THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS PER DAY USE JUMP THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE EVERY TIME, WHAT BESSIE IS SAYING MIGHT AND MIGHT BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY RECYCLE IT, THEY USE IT THAT ONE TIME, WE HAVE TO BUY IT THAT DAY AND YOU HAVE TO JUMP UP AND THEN YOU, THEN YOU'RE STUCK IN PERPETUITY AT THAT HIGHER NUMBER.
SO THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE VERY IMPORTANT.
DOES, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY? MM-HMM
'CAUSE THAT ONE DAY THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL UP THEIR TANK AND WE HAVE TO BUY THAT EXTRA 30,000 WE HAVE TO BUY.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO BUY IT IN THE WINTER FROM DALLAS.
AND WE HAVE TO BUY IT EVERY DAY FROM NOW ON THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE USER THAT HAS TO USE WATER LIKE THAT, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THOSE BIG FIELDS IN THE WINTER, BECAUSE CURRENTLY IS LOWER.
WHEN WE'RE USING, WE'RE, WE'RE PURCHASING APPROXIMATELY 42 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE WINTER TIME, WE USE APPROXIMATELY 25 TO 28,000 GALLONS A DAY.
SO YOU ENCOURAGE 'EM TO DO IT.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO FILL DURING THE SUMMER WHERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE SUMMER.
DURING THE SUMMER WE'D GET UP TO 39 40 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY.
WELL, AND THE GOOD NEWS IS NOT REQUIRED.
ALL OF THE NEW ADDITIONS DOWN SOUTH.
NONE OF THAT COMES FROM DALLAS.
THAT WILL BE COMING FROM MANFIELD.
IT WON'T HIT THE 42 AND MIDLOTHIAN.
SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE 42, BUT, BUT DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE TEARS DOWN THERE? THEY MAY, BUT THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY.
IANS MAKING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE WATER DOWN THERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAD AMY, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE LANGUAGE FOR THE HIGHER EDUCATION.
AND I THINK, UM, WE SHOULD SAY ATTRACT HIGHER EDUCATION PARTNERSHIPS SLASH UNIVERSITY FACILITY.
I'M WRITING IT OVER HERE 'CAUSE IT'S LONGER THAN THAT SHEET OF PAPER SLASH UNIVERSITY FACILITY.
WHAT IS THAT THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO THE LEFT OF IT? I CAN'T.
I HAVE SEEK HIGHER EDUCATION PARTNERSHIPS.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON.
UM, BACK TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THE HERITAGE CENTER NOW.
UM, I DO THINK JOHN'S POINT IN BEING VERY CAREFUL WHAT WE NAME IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE A LITTLE FURTHER.
OF WHEN WE WERE UP IN MARK VC'S OFFICE, HIS ASSISTANT WAS VERY WELL VERSED ON WHAT YOU CAN, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT YOU COULD
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GREAT THINGS TO SAY AND WHAT ARE THE WORST THINGS TO CALL IT.I CAN CALL AND, UM, SO RATHER THAN NAME IT AND I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO NAME SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE THIS, WHAT'S GONNA BE THIS OR THIS AND WHAT ALL IT'S GONNA INCLUDE.
BUT IF WE COULD GET SOME OPTIONS OF THE USABLE TERMS AND THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO AVOID.
CAN I CALL THE, OH, THERE YOU GO.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST SPORTS COURT IF Y'ALL CAN APPROVE A MINIMUM OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
HERE'S WHAT I WILL COMMIT TO YOU.
IF THE STAFF BRINGS US A PROPOSAL FOR THE USE, WE WILL BRING IT FORWARD TO THE SPORTS COURT.
BUT I'M NOT, THERE'S NO REASON TO SET IT ASIDE NOW WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S A USE.
I THINK THERE'S FOUR OF US SITTING HERE.
I THINK WE ARE VERY OPEN TO DOING, UH, THAT MIKE, ONCE WE GET A USE, WE WERE READY TO VOTE ON THE USE TO HELP ALICE COURT UNTIL THE FUNDING CAME THROUGH FROM THE SOURCE THAT WAS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING AND WE, WE PULLED IT OFF THE AGENDA LAST MINUTE.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY GOT THE FUNDING.
SO WE'RE READY, OPEN AND WILLING.
WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON ADAM TOO.
DO DARE I ASK AT SOME POINT ABOUT NEW GOALS.
AND JUST FOR PURPOSE, DARE NOT ASK THE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DO YOU WANT? SO THE ONE THAT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN ADAMS HAD SUGGESTED WAS TO ESTABLISH A COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT OR WE TALK ABOUT IT, BUT NO, DO WE PUT IT ON THIS IS WHAT THE QUESTION IS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT ON THE LIST.
I LIKE THINGS YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE LIST.
LET'S PUT A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE ON THE LIST THAT YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON.
THOSE ARE THE EASIEST AND, AND BEST.
IT'S SPELLED VANNA LIKE IC VANNA, BUT I'VE LEARNED SHE LIKES IT PRONOUNCED VNA UH, VNA.
COULD, COULD YOU UH, COULD YOU CHECK ON THE, UH, SENATE BILL SIX TO THAT UH, I THINK MIGHT REQUIRE THE, UH, GRID OPERATORS TO UH, CUT THE HIGHER USAGE PEOPLE DOWN IN, IN.
SEE, I'M THINKING THAT THE STATE'S GOING TO, I THINK, I THINK IT ALREADY IS A STATE RULE.
SO WOULD YOU CHECK ON THAT AND LET US KNOW? THANK YOU.
I THINK THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE PREEMPTING SOME THINGS.
UH, HAROLD WILLIS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ADD TO LOOK AT PLEASE, UM, YOU ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU HAVE TWO SIGNIFICANT TRACKS OF LAND IN GRAND PRAIRIE OUT THERE BY PARK HILL PARK THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE 2007 BOND COMMITTEE FOR GRAND PRAIRIE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE GRAND PRAIRIE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THAT LAND BY PARK HILL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT HAS DECIDED HE WANTS TO KEEP IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
BUT WOULD THAT BE OF A GOAL TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF IF HE WANTS TO KEEP IT, HE WOULDN'T WANT US TO WORK.
THAT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, THAT'S A GREAT PIECE OF LAND FOR SINGLE FAMILY, FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS.
FOR THOSE WHO WORK IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, FOR THOSE WHO WORK IN THE CITY, WE, WE AGREE.
AND I'LL REACH OUT TO THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT AND SEE IF WHAT I'VE HEARD IS TRUE, IF THAT COULD BE LIKE AN AVION VILLAGE TYPE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE STREETS COULD BE CUL-DE-SACS THE STREET THEY'RE ON.
SANDRA, WERE ON EASTERN WEST SINCE THE KIDS WOULD GO OVER TO, UH, POWELL AND PERHAPS OVER TO FLORENCE HILL.
WELL, THERE'D BE TWO THINGS WE'D HAVE TO DO.
WE'D HAVE TO SEE IF HE'S WILLING TO SELL IT.
THE OTHER IS TRY TO FIND A PARTNER THAT WE COULD PARTNER, PARTNER WITH TO DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING ON DALLAS COURT.
AND DALLAS COUNTY PARTNERED WITH US ON ALICE COURT THAT'S IN DALLAS COUNTY.
FIRST, LET'S SEE WITH DR. TRUJILLO, IF HIS RUMOR IS TRUE THAT HE'S DECIDED TO KEEP IT.
AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU.
ALSO, THE LAND, THEREBY CHARLIE AND KIRK ENGLAND'S THE OLD T STOP BUILDING.
THAT'S, THAT OF COURSE IS ALSO
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G-P-I-S-D PROPERTY.THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION.
FOR, FOR FOR DUPLEXES, TOWNHOUSES FOR WOMEN WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME, WHICH WE HAVE SO MANY WOMEN, IT'D BE A GREAT PLACE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT NO MATTER WHO LIVES THERE.
BUT TO JUST, AND AND THAT WOULD BE OF A GOAL SHOWING TO THE METROPLEX TO TEXAS THAT GRAND PRAIRIE IS REACHING OUT NOT ONLY AS A GREEN CITY FOR THE CARS, BUT OTHER AREAS.
BUT THIS IS, WE WHAT WAS THE WALL STREET JOURNAL? FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS IN THEIR FORTIES NOW.
THE UH, THE LAST TIME I HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF LAND, THEY STILL WERE WANTING TO KEEP IT.
BUT THAT WAS UNDER DR THAT WAS UNDER LINDA ELLIS.
TRIO'S VISION IS FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY NOW, RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENGLANDS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT WITH MY OLD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CROCKETT ELEMENTARY BEING SHUT DOWN, NOW THAT IT'S ON SKYLINE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CLOSING SCHOOLS, THAT WHAT OTHER PURPOSES DOES THE G-P-I-S-D HAVE FOR THAT LAND? THAT'S, HOW MANY ACRES OF LAND IS THAT? WOULD YOU JUST SAY? WELL, THE, THE ACREAGE OUT IN PARK HILLS MUCH MORE THAN THE ONE THERE NEXT TO ENGLAND'S.
BUT, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THAT WAS? MAYBE EIGHT ACRES THERE NEXT TO ENGLAND'S.
I'M, I'M MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED
WE'LL, WE'LL RUN THE, WELL, YEAH, WE'LL RUN IT BY HIM.
SEE WHAT HE'S, HIS THOUGHTS ARE THAT WHAT CROCKETT PROBABLY CROCK.
WE ANNEXED THAT LITTLE AREA OUTTA DALLAS
AND SEE, I HAD HEARD THAT THEY WERE GONNA COME UP WITH A LIST OF PROPERTIES THEY WANTED TO SELL, BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE THE LIST.
I THINK THEY MADE THE TRANSITION BEFORE THEY CAME UP WITH THE LIST.
'CAUSE CROCKETT, UH, WOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD LOCATION.
THAT'S JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, SINCE WITH THE DISTRICT AND WITH YOU FOLKS THAT AS A GERONTOLOGIST WE NEED LIKE, UH, THE, THE GOLDEN GIRLS.
WE NEED CON JAPAN UTILIZES MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING.
THAT WOULD BE A LOCATION TO WHAT JAPAN DOES OF MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING.
WHERE YOU MAYBE HAVE FOUR WOMEN LIVING IN A HOUSE.
YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER LIKE AVON VILLAGE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WONDERFUL FACILITIES AT PARK HILL PARK.
SO, AND TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE TAX ROWS, THE ONLY WAY YOU LIVE IN THAT PROPERTY IS IF YOUR CHILDREN GO TO THE GRAND PRAIRIE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN STIPULATE THAT.
'CAUSE BOTH OF 'EM ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
LET'S DO THE FIRST THINGS FIRST.
WELL, LET'S EVEN SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO BUY.
BUT COULD WE JUST THROW OUT IN MAUI, AFTER THE WILDFIRES IN MAUI, THEY WERE USING DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL INSTRUMENTS TO HELP REBUILD THE OLD TOWN THERE IN LANAI.
THAT YOU, YOU GUYS KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO OF DIFFERENT FINANCING OPTIONS TO REACH OUT THERE TO MAKE THIS A POSSIBILITY.
IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET RID OF THAT, PLEASE.
JUST, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD FOR.
UH, MAYOR, WE COMPLETED, I HAVEN'T COMPLETELY GO LIKE VANA VNA VNA VNA VNA.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE FEDERAL COMMUNITY PROJECTS FOR WHICH WE HAVE EARMARK FUNDING.
THAT WE'RE WAITING ON THE BUDGET, ON THE FEDERAL BUDGET, BUT WE JUST NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION ON THE EAR, THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE EARMARKS AT THIS TIME.
AND SHE'S ALSO GONNA BE PROVIDING YOU A LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT APP APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN.
AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT JUST TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION ON EARMARKED.
AND SO YOU WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD REQUESTED IN THE PAST.
SO WE WON'T BE GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TONIGHT? SHE'S GONNA TELL YOU THE, GO TO THE SLIDE WHERE WE HAVE OUR EARMARKS SO THAT SHE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION ON THE EARMARKS THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.
SO EVERYBODY'S GOT A COPY OF THE, THE BOOKLET FROM THE CONGRESSMAN, FROM THE VARIOUS CONGRESSMEN.
THESE THAT YOU HAVE, LIKE THIS, THESE ARE THE ONES WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT.
SO YEAH, THE BOOKLETS THAT Y'ALL HAVE, THESE ARE DRAFTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
UM, WE HAVE BUILT THESE DRAFTS BASED ON THE BOOKLETS THAT WE TOOK TO NLC EARLIER THIS YEAR.
SO THEY SHOULD LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU.
UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR WE, WE VISITED WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ON THE HILL WHILE WE WERE IN DC FOR HILL DAY.
UM, REAL QUICK, WE DID PASS SOME SUCCESSES
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AS FAR AS OUR EARMARKS, CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT.WE PRESENTED TWO EARMARKS TO HER AND SHE WAS ABLE TO PICK UP THE FULL AMOUNT OF OUR WATERFORD LIFT STATION AT 1.7 MILLION.
AND SO, UM, THE ONLY THING ABOUT THESE EARMARKS, CURRENTLY THEY'RE STILL IN LIMBO.
WE HAD A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, WHICH ONLY FUNDED GOVERNMENT UNTIL I BELIEVE THE END OF JANUARY.
AND SO WE ARE STILL AWAITING APPROVAL OF THE FULL BUDGET.
AND SO WHILE THIS AMOUNT IS IN THE BUDGET, IT'S, IT STILL HASN'T BEEN APPROVED AND VOTED ON, SO IT MAY GO AWAY.
UH, CONGRESSMAN VC PICKED UP A PORTION OF TWO OF THE EARMARKS THAT WE REQUESTED $250,000 FOR THE MAIN STREET.
WE GOT A LAKE STATION PROJECT AND 850 THOU $850,000 FOR THE I 30 PIPELINE.
SO THAT WAS A TOTAL OF $1.1 MILLION.
IS THAT A DONE DEAL? THAT'S STILL IN LIMBO AS WELL.
AND THEN WE ALSO, WE MET WITH CONGRESSMAN ELSIE AND HIS STAFF.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE DID NOT PICK UP ANY OF OUR REQUESTS.
AND SO THAT IS A
AND SO, UM, THE BOOKLETS THAT Y'ALL HAVE, WE'RE GONNA OFF WITH CONGRESSWOMAN AND CROCKETT.
UM, WE HAVE TAILORED THIS BOOKLET NOT ONLY TOWARDS WHAT WE THINK WILL SECURE FEDERAL FUNDING, BUT ALSO WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ARE MOST INTERESTED IN.
AND SO WE HAVE MUCH OF WHAT IS ON HER LIST IS A REPEAT OF WHAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS, UM, BOOKLET.
SO WE'VE GOT, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK FOR FUNDING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR, UH, FOR THE LAKERIDGE PARKWAY BRIDGE, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMMING, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE, UM, THAT, THAT'S THE ONE PAGER THAT WE HAND OUT TO THE CONGRESSIONAL MEMBER.
AND THEN THE ENTIRE BOOKLET GOES TO THEIR STAFF AND YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WITH A MAP DESCRIBING, WITH THE MAP DESCRIBING THE PROJECT.
UM, NEXT, THERE IS A BOOKLET FOR CONGRESSMAN VC.
HIS BOOKLET AS WELL, UH, HAS REMAINED RELATIVELY THE SAME.
WE WILL ASK HIM AGAIN FOR FUNDING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR, THE SOUTHWEST THUR STREET BRIDGE OVER COTTONWOOD CREEK, THE CARRIER PARKWAY BRIDGE, MAIN STREET, UH, DOWNTOWN QUARTER ENHANCEMENT.
AND THEN AT I 30 RIDGE ROAD WATER LINES, MENTAL HEALTH AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN JUST LIKE CONGRESSMAN CROCKETT'S BOOKLET, THERE WERE PAGES WITH ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND MAPS.
THE LAST BOOKLET IS FOR CONGRESSMAN ELSIE.
AND SO WE HAVE PAIRED DOWN OUR ASKS FOR PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN OUR PROJECTS, THAT HE IS FUNDED IN THE PAST.
AND SO THAT IS THE BELTLINE SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
MAIN STREET, MAIN STREET DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT.
AND THE NEW PROJECT THAT WE'VE ADDED IS THE, IS THE 16 INCH LAKEVIEW WATERLINE? YES.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING NORTHEAST GRAND PRAIRIE THAT YOU'RE GONNA TALK TO CONGRESSWOMAN CROCKETT ABOUT, BUT NORTHEAST GRAND PRAIRIE'S AND COUNCILMAN ESES DISTRICT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, WE, WE WERE GONNA MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS.
THE REASON THAT WE GAVE IT TO YOU IN PAPER IS FOR YOU TO REVIEW 'EM SO THAT WE CAN MAKE NECESSARY CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.
THE REASON THAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT THESE TO YOU TONIGHT IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TIE THESE TO OUR GOALS, TO THE COUNCIL'S GOALS.
AND FOR WHEN Y'ALL ARE THERE MARCH.
SO WHEN WE'RE, WHEN YOU'RE IN MARCH, YOU'RE TYING IT TO SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH OR YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IN AS IT RELATES TO YOUR GOALS AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING TO TRY TO GET THEM TO PUT THIS STUFF INTO A BUDGET THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME AFTER JANUARY.
AND THEN YEAH, THE RE THE DISTRICTS JUST GOT CHANGED.
SO THAT'S BY, BY THE TIME THE MONEY WOULD GET AROUND TO IT, THE DISTRICTS ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT AND THEY'LL HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
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WELL, IDEALLY THE BUDGET WILL BE PASSED.IN A PERFECT, WE NEED TO PROCEED.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT SHOULD BE, BUT, BUT IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW WHO WE'RE, WE'LL COME UP WITH THE GOALS EITHER WAY.
SO IF THE EARMARK PASSED AND WE ALSO HAVE GEO BONDS THAT PASSED, HOW IS THAT WORK? WE DON'T ISSUE THE GEO BONDS.
WE JUST MAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE FULL FUNDING.
WE WOULD JUST REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF GEO BONDS NEEDED.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE TAX RATE IS GO UP WHETHER WE USE NOT NO.
IF AS, AS WE'RE USING THEM, IT, THE TAX RATE IS BASED ON AS, AS IT'S BEING ISSUED, THAT IS THE POTENTIAL, UH, IMPACT TO THE TAX RATE.
SO WE WILL HELP CONTROL THAT AS WELL.
AND SO THEN THE NEXT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION I WAS GONNA SUGGEST FOR, UH, CONGRESSMAN LZ SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SUCCESS? I, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST STICK WITH THE, THE LAKEVIEW STORAGE TANK AND THE SOUTHGATE ROAD WIDENING.
I DON'T SEE HIM DOING ANYTHING DOWNTOWN THAT'S KIND OF NOT HIS NECK OF THE WOODS.
SO IF HE WERE TO GLANCE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST COUPLE ITEMS ARE NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO HIM, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, JUST STICK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
HEAD AND GIVE HIM SOMETHING THAT, SOMETHING HE CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT.
NORTHEAST CORNER, I THINK, I THINK WITH ANYTHING, UM, ESPECIALLY CONGRESSMAN SIE IS SHOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR MONEY, BUT HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE EFFORTS WHERE WE, WE DROP OFF A, A VIDEO CLIP WITH THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT HIGHLIGHTING, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE NEW, UM, BUSINESSES OPENING UP NORTH OF 30.
TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DATA CENTERS ARE LOOKING AT OUR CITY AND WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO I THINK HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS WOULD HELP US TELL OUR STORY A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UM, WHETHER WE SEND THAT A WEEK BEFORE WE GET THERE.
THAT WILL BE AT LEAST, AT LEAST SEE IT OR STAFF SEES IT
CAN HE ADD GOODLAND TO HIS REQUEST? UH, JUST TO GIVE THEM BEFORE WE GO, CONGRESSMAN S YOU A HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE IN GOODLAND.
THAT, THAT'S WHY IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO AFTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN THERE.
WE'LL COME BACK IN JANUARY FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, SUB CHAPTER D OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE VTCA.
TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING ITEM TWO, SECTION 5 51 0.072 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY SECTION ITEM FIVE, SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL MEET IN THE ROOM.
AND FOLKS, WE'RE NOT GONNA CONDUCT ANY MORE BUSINESS OR ANY VOTES TONIGHT.
WHEN WE FINISH THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE'LL COME BACK OUT HERE, GET FIVE OF US HERE, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON TONIGHT.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO HOME.
YOU JUST CAN'T GO IN THE ROOM WITH US.
AN OPEN SESSION