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ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE STAFF BRIEFING.
[BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM]
BRIEFING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 20TH, 2025.I'M KIMBERLY KIM TIERRA, WOMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THE STAFF BRIEFING IS HERE BY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:32 PM THIS IS A PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF IS BRIEFED THE BOARD AND REVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE STAFF BRIEFING.
I'LL NOW HAVE A ROLL CALL, UH, TO VERIFY THAT WE DO HAVE A FORM AFTER OUR CALL.
JONATHAN HEAD, ERIC HEINE AND VIVIAN MORRIS.
LET THE REC UH, RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN OFF YOUR PHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, WE'LL ASK THAT THE STAFF COME UP AND PLEASE PRESENT.
DID YOU SAY ALL? YOU SAY ALL ERIN.
DOES TIFFANY WANT GO FIRST OR SHE? YES.
MY NAME IS SAL GORDON AND I'M WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION HERE AT THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER TWO ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 21 COFFEEVILLE TRAIL.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 81 AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FRONT YARD CARPORTS THAT ENTAILS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR THE FRONT YARD CARPORT CONSTRUCTION ITSELF AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
SO THE PROPOSAL ENTAILS A 458 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED FRONT YARD CARPORT.
THESE ARE THE MEASUREMENTS ABOUT 19 FEET WIDE, 23 FEET DEEP AND 12 FEET HIGH.
AND IT DOES MEET OUR ARTICLE SIX REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH A STRUCTURE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK VARIANCE.
TYPICALLY THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK VARIANCE IS FIVE FEET.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE ONLY ABLE TO PROVIDE THREE.
AND ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL SITE PLAN, UH, OF THAT PROPERTY AND THAT PROPOSED CARPORTS.
AND SO I WILL COME BACK TO THAT SLIDE IN A SECOND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS REQUEST, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, UH, IS REQUESTED FOR THIS.
THERE IS A CARPORT LOCATED WITHIN 800 FEET, HOWEVER, SINCE THEY ARE NOT MEETING ALL OF OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, IT IS STILL IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT FOR THAT REQUEST.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN LOCATED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AND THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, OR I'M SORRY IN YELLOW AND OUTLINED IN RED IS A LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORT.
SO THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO AN EXISTING CARPORT.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO UM, GO OVER IT ONE MORE TIME, THE REQUESTED, UH, SORRY THAT'S A TYPO.
FRONT YARD SETBACK IS THE MINIMUM IS FIVE FEET AND THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE FEET.
AND SO THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THAT PROPERTY AND 52 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.
ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE WAS RETURN OPPOSED.
AND REGARDING ZBA TWO FIVE DASH OH NINE DASH 0 6 3 AS REQUESTED,
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STAFF DOES NOT REJECT.AND I WILL NOW TRANSITION OVER TO THIS SLIDE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
UH, COULD YOU GO TO THE PICTURE OF THE, NOT THIS ONE, BUT THE PICTURE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF PLEASE? SURE.
AND WHAT'S YOUR, AND HOW FAR BACK IS IT FROM THE UH, SIDEWALK? SO WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE THAT IT'S FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO, UH, PROVIDE THREE FEET.
NOW THAT SIDEWALK IS ABOUT TWO FEET OUTER FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE PROPERTY LINE IS TWO FEET INWARDS? YES.
INWARDS FROM THE TWO OR ONE FEET.
JUNE, IS IT TWO FOOT FROM THE SIDEWALK? OH, SO WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT A FOOT OUT OUTSIDE.
BUT THESE PROPERTY, LOOKING AT THAT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT AREA IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE ASKING TO THE DOOR, IT SEEMS PROBABLY LONGER THAN, UM, BASED ON THAT PICTURE.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY YOU WANT MINIMUM 18 FEET, BUT BASED ON THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE MORE THAN 20, 24 FEET, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
'CAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FROM THE GARAGE DOOR TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
I'M, I'M ASKING FROM WHERE YOU WHERE THIS CARPORT WOULD FINISH TO THE UH, SIDEWALK THAT I SEE.
I THINK THIS IMAGE MIGHT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UH, BOARD MEMBER AS YOU CAN SEE.
UM, OF THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER, UH, CARPORT THAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY THERE.
IS THAT IN THE BACK OR THE FRONT? THE OTHER CARPORT THAT'S LEGALLY PERMITTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S A FRONT YARD FRONT, YES.
IS THERE ANY, ANY SIDE, ANY FRONT YARD SETBACK ON THE EXISTING CAR PORT THAT'S LEGALLY, LEGALLY INSTALLED? THERE'S NO VARIANCE THAT I KNOW OF ON THAT OTHER CARPORT? YES.
FIRST ONE IS, THERE IS A TREE, IT'S NOT ON THIS, THERE'S A TREE ON THE EDGE OF, IS THAT GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT FOR THAT CARPORT? THE SIDELINE DID NOT INDICATE OR TALKING TO THE APPLICANT.
UH, DID THEY INDICATE OF ANY TYPE OF REMOVAL OF THAT TREE OR ANY, ANYTHING OF THAT SORT? MM-HMM
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE OPPOSITION IS ON THIS? I DO HAVE THE OPPOSITION LETTER HERE.
UM, AGAIN, THERE WAS ONE IN SUPPORT, UH, WITH SOME COMMENTS JUST PARAPHRASED.
ARE THEY NEXT DOOR? YOU KNOW WHAT'S, YES.
ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT'S UM, WAS IN SUPPORT DID NOT WISH TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
AND THEY'RE LOCATED AT 20 20 10, 22 COFFEEVILLE, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY'RE IN SUPPORT YOU SAID? YES.
IN, IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? YES, OPPOSITION.
AND THERE IS ONE IN OPPOSITION.
UH, AND THAT ONE IS LOCATED AT 10 17 COFFEEVILLE.
AND I CAN PARAPHRASE IF YOU'D LIKE THE COMMENTS.
SO THEY ARE HESITANT SUPPORT TO SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE OUTWARD APPEARANCE OF THE HOME.
WHAT, ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION TO BE CLEAR.
IF THE GENTLEMAN WANTED IT, IF IT WAS THREE FEET SHORTER, HIS CARPORT, HE COULD HAVE HAD THIS DONE WITHOUT COMING BEFORE US.
IF HE COULD HAVE PROVIDED TWO MORE FEET YEAH.
THEN THERE WOULD BE NO VARIANCE REQUEST AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THIS.
UM, IN THE, I KNOW YOU PARAPHRASED THE OPPOSITION BUT WAS THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE IT WAS OUT OF VARIANCE OR WHAT? I CAN READ THE COMMENTS.
SO THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 17 COFFEEVILLE TERRA AND THEIR COMMENTS IS QUOTE, I BELIEVE THE RENOVATION OF THIS HOME WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE OUTWARD APPEARANCE, MY HOME AND NOT BE UNIFORM WITH SIMILAR NEARBY HOMES.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE MORE
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QUESTION.UM, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LISTED HERE THE ONE, UH, THAT'S UM, THE PARAMETERS IN RED, BUT I WOULD'VE EXPECTED THERE TO HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE CARPORTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S NOT, THESE ARE LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORTS THAT I COULD FIND.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT ARE ILLEGALLY PERMITTED.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
DID YOU DRIVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CARPORTS OUT THERE.
MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE TO SET A PRECEDENT ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CONFORMING AND UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO LOOKING AT THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY ONE.
SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR ME AS OPPOSED TO THERE'S A BUNCH OUT THERE NOW I HAVEN'T DRIVEN THAT OUT THERE TO KNOW, BUT I WOULD'VE FIGURED THERE WOULD'VE BEEN QUITE A FEW.
AND JUST TO REITERATE, IF THIS WAS NOT REQUESTING A VARIANCE TONIGHT, THEN THIS WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE YEAH.
ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA.
ZBA 25 0 9 0 0 6 5 IS VARIANCES TO LOT DEPTH, LOT AREA LOT COVERAGE AND NOT NEEDED FOR MAXIMUM DENSITY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 3 4 MOTLEY STREET.
IT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW ON THE PICTURE TO YOUR RIGHT.
THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION OF THREE ATTACHED TOWNHOME, UM, PROJECT.
UM, JUST TO CLARIFY WHY WE REMOVED THE VARIANCE FOR THE MAXIMUM DENSITY, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE US AN ACCURATE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE MEETING THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PLATTED AS A SINGLE LOT.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REPL INTO THREE SEPARATE LOTS SHOWN IN THE VARIOUS COLORS.
LOT ONE, A RED ONE B IS GREEN IN THE MIDDLE AND ONE C IS YELLOW.
THE FIRST VARIANCE REQUEST IS APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THE PROPOSED LOTS AND THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH.
THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT DEPTH IS A HUNDRED FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 68 FEET.
THE SECOND VARIANCE IS ON LOT ONE B, WHICH IS THE MIDDLE LOT SHOWN IN GREEN.
THAT IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
THE REQUIRED MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IN THE DISTRICT DISTRICT IS 60%.
THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING APPROXIMATELY 60.3% AND THE LAST VARIANCE IS ALSO UH, FOR LOT ONE B.
AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA FROM THE REQUIRED MINIMUM OF 3,300 SQUARE FEET TO 2040 SQUARE FEET.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, THE ORANGE SHOWN THERE IS TWO F RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY FOUR DISTRICT AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MULTIFAMILY ONE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THREE LOTS THAT ARE BETWEEN 0.05 AND 0.09 ACRES.
THESE LOTS AS PROPOSED ARE SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE PROPERTY IS IN TWO F ZONING.
AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SITE ARE ALSO ZONED TWO F.
THOSE LOTS ARE GENERALLY, UM, 0.1 OF AN ACRE OR GREATER.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY FOUR.
THOSE LOTS ARE GENERALLY BETWEEN 0.12 ACRES OR GREATER.
AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING ARE GENERALLY BETWEEN 0.13 ACRES OR GREATER.
SO I WANNA SHOW YOU GUYS THIS.
I TRIED TO COLOR CODE THE VARIOUS LOTS BASED ON THE ZONING DISTRICT SO THAT YOU CAN GET A KIND OF AN ARRAY OF THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
HERE IS AN ELEVATION SORT OF A PICTURE, AGAIN GIVING YOU SOME CONTEXT FOR THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE SENT 48 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT ZBA
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25 0 8 0 0 6 1 AS REQUESTED.STAFF SUPPORTS THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A LOT REDUCTION IN LOT DEPTH FOR ALL OF THE PROPOSED LOTS.
HOWEVER, THE VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR LOT COVERAGE AND LOT AREA FOR LOT ONE B ARE SELF-CREATED HARDSHIPS.
THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED LOTS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LOT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
HOWEVER, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO GRANT THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT MUST ABIDE BY THE FOLLOWING.
NUMBER ONE, THEY WILL REPL THE PROPERTY AND NUMBER TWO IS YOUR STANDARD LANGUAGE.
THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH OUR CODES, UM, AND GET A PERMIT SUBMITTED WITHIN 90 DAYS.
AND THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES.
COULD YOU EXPOUND ON SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP? SO THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND I THINK THAT MS. BULL PROBABLY WILL COVER A LITTLE BIT OF THIS IN THE UPCOMING COMING TRAINING THAT WE HAVE AFTER THE, THE CASES, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UM, IS THE CODE THAT GUIDES YOU GUYS ON BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
MOST BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT REQUESTS, UNLESS THEY ARE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS ARE VARIANCES.
THE STATE CODE SAYS THAT VARIANCES MAY BE GRANTED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT SPECIFIC TO YOUR QUESTION ON THIS REQUEST, TYPICALLY WE DO NOT GRANT VARIANCES THAT ARE SELF-CREATED HARDSHIPS.
UM, IF, CAN I ADD ON? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, ONE OF THE REASON THAT WE LISTED THAT FOR THIS SPECIFIC CASE, AGAIN AS MS ISH STATED, IS BECAUSE OF THE SELF-CREATED HARDSHIPS.
SO THE TWO F ZONING DOES ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO BUILD A DUPLEX WITHOUT SPLITTING THE LOT, IN WHICH CASE HE WOULD NOT NEED ANY OF THESE VARIANCES.
SO BECAUSE HE DESIRES TO BUILD THREE UNITS VERSUS THE TWO UNITS THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
HE IS TAKING THIS, UH, VARIANCE TO BEFORE YOU.
SO AGAIN, UH, STAFF FEELS THAT THIS VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY IF HE BUILT WHAT IS ALLOWED BY THE ZONING.
SO THERE IS A WAY AROUND WHAT HE'S PROPOSED.
THERE IS A MORE COMPLIANT WITHOUT A VARIANCE WAY FORWARD.
NOW THERE WOULD STILL BE A VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR ALL OF THE LOTS BECAUSE THAT LOT DEPTH IS JUST NOT GONNA GET TO A HUNDRED FEET.
UNLESS HE REORIENTED TOWARDS MOTLEY, UM, THEN HE COULD GET THAT, BUT HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD AS MUCH PRODUCT SO HE'S ORIENTED TO THE OTHER STREET, DIVIDED IT UP, CAN'T MEET THAT DEPTH.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT LOT DEPTH VARIANCE, BUT NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE OTHER TWO FOR LOT ONE B.
IF HE BUILT A DUPLEX, IT WILL NOT NEED THE VARIANCE FOR LOT DEPTH BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THE LOT DEPTH WILL BE THE 150 FEET.
SO CURRENT LOT, UM, IF HE WERE TO SEE PLATING WOULD ALLOW A CONSTRUCTION OF DUPLEX PROBABLY WITHOUT VARIANCES FOR LOT THEFT EITHER.
UH, BUT AGAIN, AARON SAYS LOT THEFT IS NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
IT'S JUST THE NUMBER OF UNITS FITTING INTO SMALLER LOTS THAN THE EXISTING FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'M CURIOUS, WHEN DID, WHEN DID THE, UH, ZONING FOR THE, FOR A TOWN HOME COME INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE SF ONES? ARE THOSE SF ONE SF FOURS? THEY'RE S THEY'RE SF FOURS.
TWO F ZONING IS ACTUALLY A ZONING CATEGORY THAT WE STOPPED USING AS A CITY IN THE 1990S.
SO THAT TWO F ZONING EXISTED IN OUR OLDER ORDINANCES.
SO, UM, WE STILL ALLOW DUPLEXES IF THEY HAD A TWO F ZONING OR SFA OR SFTH ZONE ZONING, MEANING AS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHER, SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES BECAUSE THE ZONING CURRENTLY DOES NOT EXIST.
HOWEVER, THE ZONING STAYS WITH THE LAND TWO F IS STILL RECOGNIZED.
THEY ARE JUST REQUIRED TO FOLLOW EITHER SFA OR SFTH STANDARD.
SO THE ZONING FOR TWO FI BELIEVE HAS BEEN THERE IN THE 1985 ZONING MAP.
BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ODD FOR ONE PIECE OF LAND TO HAVE THAT.
HE CALLED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TWO F.
SO THEY CAN BUILD SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED FROM TWO F ZONING AS WELL.
HE COULD REPLAY THAT TO TWO SPOTS.
I MEAN TWO LOTS AND HAVE TWO SINGLE HOMES AS WELL.
WELL WE DID NOT REVIEW THAT, BUT HE WAS STILL ON THE, THE VARIANCES TO FIT TWO HOMES, BUT NOT AS MANY.
UM, IF HE WERE TO BUILD A DUPLEX, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD, NOT SPLIT THE LOT BUT BUILD DUPLEX, WHICH MEANS ONE HOME ON ONE LOT, BUT TWO UNITS WITHIN THAT HOME.
JUNE IS IT, IS THAT WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IS DUPLEXES.
SO AGAIN, MS. AARON HAS SHARED THAT MOST HOMES RIGHT NOW NEXT TO BOTH EAST AND WEST ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME TWO F ZONING.
THEY DO ALLOW DUPLEXES, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
SO WE BELIEVE ALL THE OTHER HOMES AROUND IT ARE SINGLE
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FAMILY DE TOUCHSTONE.AGAIN, IF HE BUILT A DUPLEX, IT'S LEGALLY ALLOWED BY THE ZONING.
UH, HE CAN JUST APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMIT.
YEAH, THIS IS THE VIEW I WANTED TO HAVE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE LOT NEXT TO IT IS 0.22, WHEREAS THIS ONE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 0.23 WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT UP.
SO THEY'RE ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONE NEXT TO IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.
AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE DUPLEXES KIND OF SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIR? NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY, QUICK QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
IS THAT AN HOA? THERE IS NOT AN HOA.
BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN YOUR AGENDA, ZBA A 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 7.
THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE MAXIMUM AREA ALLOWED FOR A REAR YARD CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT EIGHT 13 CANADIAN CIRCLE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE SINGLE FAMILY ONE RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A, UH, A REAR YARD CARPORTS AND ALLOW A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AREA FOR A ALLOW FOR AN ALLOWED CARPORT.
IT IS PROPOSED AT 630 SQUARE FEET, ABOUT 17.8 FEET WIDE, 37.9 FEET DEEP AND 12 FEET HIGH.
AND IT MEETS OUR ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR OF COURSE THE MAXIMUM AREA LAB, WHICH IS 500 SQUARE FEET ONSCREEN.
YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL SITE PLAN OF THAT CARDBOARD.
IF YOU SEE, UH, WHERE I'M POINTING WITH MY MOUSE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE RED OUTLINE OF THE CARPORT AND THEN, UH, IT KIND OF EXTENDS A LITTLE BIT OUT.
THIS IS BECAUSE THE DIAGRAM IS SHOWING NOT ONLY THE CARPORT BUT THE PAVED DRIVEWAY AS WELL.
AND THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THAT PROPERTY FROM THE ALLEYWAY.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR A REAR YARD CARPORT.
AND JUST A NOTE ON REAR YARD CARPORTS, THEY TYPICALLY GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PERMITTING PROCESS AND DO NOT HAVE TO APPLY TO BE HEARD BY THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THE REASON WHY IT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE SEEKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR MORE THAN 500 SQUARE FEET.
AND ONE OTHER NOTE IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, UM, IT IS, IT HAS BEEN BUILT, UM, AND THE BUILDER IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER AT THIS TIME.
BUT IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 39 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ZERO WERE RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA TWO FIVE OH OH, EXCUSE ME, 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 7 AS REQUESTED.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD THAT THIS IS, THIS IS SOMEWHAT MORE PROCEDURAL, BUT I'M SEEING THAT YOU'RE SENDING OUT NOTICES AND THIS IS 39, THE OTHER ONE WAS 47, ET CETERA.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE HOW MANY NOTICES YOU SEND OUT AND WHO DO THEY GO TO PLEASE? YES.
UM, SO THEY GO TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO LEGAL STATE REQUIREMENT IS 200 FEET TAKEN FROM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
WE CREATE A BUFFER THAT'S CREATED THAT IS SET OFFSET 200 FEET FROM THAT BUFFER.
WE STAND AND SEND OUT NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF ANY PROPERTY THAT ARE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
ALL PROPERTY OWNERS LISTED FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO THAT MEANS ANY HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN A 200 FOOT BUFFER WILL RECEIVE A LETTER.
BUT TO UH, PER OUR UDC, WE TYPICALLY INCREASE THAT DISTANCE OF 300 FEET JUST TO CAPTURE EVERYONE WITHIN THAT 300 FEET.
BUT EVEN IF A CLIP OF YOUR PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT BUFFER WILL STILL INCLUDE YOU IN THOSE NOTICES IS SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, NOT NECESSARILY THE TENANTS.
MIND YOU, THERE'S ONLY QUITE THIRD TIME HERE.
SO IS IT TYPICAL THAT WE GET SO FEW RESPONSES? IT IS VERY TYPICAL.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE IT'S SOMEONE'S HOME THAT THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO EXPRESS.
UM, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IF THEY HAVE A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERS AND THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED, THAT WE MAY GET UM, A FEW MORE.
I THINK THE MAXIMUM I GOT ON ONE OF MY CASE WAS 13, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT I GOT ACTUALLY TWO DIG NUMBER OF OPPOSITIONS MOST TIMES
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OTHER CONTROVERSIAL CASES I HAD MAYBE SIX MAXIMUM, BUT MOST CASES I GET ZERO OR ONE.AND THESE ARE MAILED TO THESE FOLKS? THAT IS CORRECT SIR.
UM, THEY ARE NOT, WE DO PROVIDE THEM A LINK.
WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SEND OUT THE LETTERS WE POSTED ON THE NEWSPAPER PER STATE REQUIREMENT.
SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT, BUT WE FIND THAT SENDING OUT A LETTER IS THE BEST WAY TO REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IF FOR INSTANCE, YOU SENT OUT THESE 39 OR WHATEVER IT IS MM-HMM
AND YOU GET 14 PEOPLE TO SAY, WE DON'T LIKE THIS.
DOES THAT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT YOU FOLKS ARE DOING? NO.
WE JUST LET YOU KNOW OF THE OPPOSITIONS.
UM, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER THEM AGAIN ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.
BUT PROCEDURALLY WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE CBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 8 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION REQUEST AT 1413 CANADIAN CIRCLE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, ONE DISTRICT.
AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A GARAGE CONVERSION WITH GARAGE CONVERSIONS.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES IN A GARAGE AND THEY WOULD NOT BE PROVIDING THAT.
HOWEVER, THIS PROPERTY HAS AMPLE DRIVEWAY ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIRED TWO SPACES.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO NOT WITHIN 300 FEET OF OTHER LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSIONS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT IN YELLOW.
THERE IS A, A CONVERSION BUFFER SHOWN IN BLUE AND THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY ARE JUST BARELY OUT OF THAT BUFFER ZONE.
THE PROPOSED CONVERSION IS ABOUT 540 SQUARE FEET.
THIS PURPOSE IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIVING AREA.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A BUILDING PERMIT SUBMITTED JUST YET.
TO YOUR LEFT IS THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN AND TO YOUR RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE IN QUESTION 32.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 8 AS REQUESTED.
MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, SURPRISE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM ME.
COULD YOU BRING UP THE UH, FLOOR PLAN AGAIN PLEASE? OKAY.
SO THE GARAGE THERE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIVING ROOM AND A BEDROOM AND A STORAGE ROOM AND SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT'S THAT THING AT THE TOP? NOT SAYS, IT SAYS YOUR KITCHEN.
IN OTHER WORDS IT SAYS KITCHEN.
THIS IS LIKE A WHOLE NEW APARTMENT.
THIS IS A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU BOARD MEMBER THAT THE CODE DOES NOT HAVE ANY LANGUAGE THAT PROHIBITS PEOPLE FROM PUTTING ADDITIONAL KITCHENS OR LIVING SPACE WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.
WHEN WE GET INTO SOMETHING THAT IS DETACHED, THERE'S SORT OF A, A SEPARATE SET OF ISSUES ABOUT DWELLING UNITS, BUT IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS ONE.
AND YOU DESCRIBED AS THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE.
IS IT ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THIS MIGHT BE A RENTAL THO THOSE DAY RENTALS OR VRBO OR WHATEVER? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT HAS TO REGISTER WITH OUR PROGRAM AND WILL BE SUBJECT TO OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
SO TYPICALLY A DETACHED STRUCTURE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A RENTAL FOR THIS ONE.
IT'S INTEGRATED INTO THE HOME.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
BUT HOWEVER YOU JUST NEED TO CONSIDER IS GARAGE CONVERSION.
'CAUSE THIS IS TECHNICALLY A GARAGE ATTACHED TO THE HOME.
ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT OR NOT? WE CANNOT, UH, CONSIDER THAT ANY OTHER ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT REVIEWED BY THIS BOARD.
SO WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING WHETHER IT MIGHT BE THAT CORRECT.
UM, WILL THE, UH, WILL THAT ADDITIONAL ROOM HAVE ANOTHER ENTRYWAY ON IT OR WILL IT? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE ACCESSING THE PROPOSED ADDITION THERE THROUGH THAT, THAT BREEZEWAY THAT'S GOT THE KIND OF BATHROOM AND LAUNDRY AREA.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
COULD YOU REITERATE WHAT THE VARIANCE WAS? SO IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST TO ALLOW THE CONVERSION.
WE'RE REQUESTING THIS BECAUSE IT IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FOOT BUFFER AREA.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OKAY, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE REGULAR MEETING, UM, JUST
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ONE, UM, PIECE OF BUSINESS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.WE HAVE 10 UH, MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT.
WE NEED NINE IN ORDER TO, UM, HAVE A QUORUM AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING.
SO I WILL JUST OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO.
LOOKS LIKE MS. MELINDA ROGERS IS VOLUNTEERING HERSELF.
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M A FULL BOARD MEMBER.
SO I JUST WANNA OPEN IT UP TO, TO ANYBODY.
THANK YOU C VERY UH, TIFFANY BULL, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
WE HAD ALSO SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE A BRIEF TRAINING SESSION WITH Y'ALL.
HOWEVER, I SEE THAT WE ARE ALREADY RUNNING UP AGAINST THE START OF YOUR MEETING AND SO WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
BUT I DO WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER MR. WHITE'S QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, TYPICALLY YOU ASKED ABOUT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR A VARIANCE, A HARDSHIP MUST EXIST AND TYPICALLY THAT HARDSHIP CANNOT BE ONE THAT YOU CAUSED.
IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS BROUGHT ON BY THE UNIQUE SHAPE OR PROPERTIES OF THE LAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP IS ONE WHERE YOU TOOK SOME ACTION OR IN THIS INSTANCE YOU ARE SEEKING, UM, TO SUBDIVIDED IN A CERTAIN WAY WHERE YOU ARE CREATING THE HARDSHIP.
IT'S CREATED WITH WITHIN THE PROPOSAL, CORRECT? YES.
IT IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS CAUSING THE ISSUE THAT NEEDS THE VARIANCE TO RESOLVE.
SO IF, IF THEY WERE NOT SUBDIVIDING THE LOT INTO MULTIPLE OR IF THEY WERE NOT PLANNING TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT INTO MULTIPLE PARCELS, THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO GET A VARIANCE.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO GET THE VARIANCE DUE TO THE UNIQUE SIZE OR SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT THAT THE LAND IS TOO SMALL FOR THEM TO BUILD AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS.
IT'S THAT WHAT THEY ARE DESIRING TO BUILD, THEY CANNOT BUILD WITHIN THE ZONING REGULATIONS.
SO IN STAFF'S EYES, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT AS UM, A DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHETHER YOU WOULD APPROVE IT OR NOT? WELL, THEY, THEY SAID THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT, RIGHT? YES.
SO IF YOU, I'M GONNA SAY GENERALLY, AND I THINK WE'LL GET MORE IN DEPTH IN THIS WHEN WE DO A LARGER TRAINING SESSION, BUT IF YOU WILL LOOK AT ANY OF THE AGENDA PACKETS, STAFF ALWAYS HAS THEIR FINDINGS AND EACH OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASK IS ACTUALLY GEARED TOWARDS SOMETHING UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT MATTERS AS FAR AS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT A VARIANCE WITHIN THE BOARD'S AUTHORITY.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENT IN ORDER FOR ZBA, THE THE BOARD TO GRANT A VARIANCE IS A HARDSHIP AND IT SHOULD BE A HARDSHIP THAT IS NOT SELF-CREATED.
NOW, YOU AS THE BOARD STAFF, PRESENTS TO YOU WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE.
JUST LIKE YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH YOUR SPOUSE'S OPINION OR MY OPINION OR SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION, YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH STAFF'S FINDINGS.
YOU MAY FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN STAFF.
YOU ARE HERE AS THE FACT FINDER AS WELL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH STAFF'S FINDINGS OR DISAGREE.
SO STAFF MAY PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU AND STAFF MAY FIND THAT IT IS A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP AND DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A VARIANCE OR THEY MAY NOT RECOMMEND ONE.
HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY TO SAY, WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, BUT I FIND DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THAT, AS FAR AS STAFF'S CONCERNED, THAT WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP BE A STRIKE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CANNOT RECOMMEND THAT, THAT, THAT MOVE FORWARD.
THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WHY YOU NEVER SEE, SEE STAFF SAYING THEY RECOMMEND A VARIANCE.
YOU WILL SEE STAFF SAY THAT THEY DO NOT OPPOSE, THEY DO NOT OPPOSE, THEY DO NOT OBJECT OR THAT THEY CANNOT RECOMMEND IF THEY'RE SAYING, BUT YOU VERY RARELY SEE THEM, UM, SAY THAT THEY SUPPORT OR RECOMMEND.
AND, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY VERY RARELY WILL YOU SEE SOMETHING COME IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IS NOT A, IN STAFF'S OPINION, A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
BUT IT IS UP FOR YOU AS THE BOARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT'S A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP OR NOT.
ARE WE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK WHY, WHY THEY WANNA DO, UM, THE DIVIDED INTO THREE AS OPPOSED TO JUST DOING A DUPLEX? ABSOLUTELY.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
[Call to Order ]
TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS MEETING OF OCTOBER THE 20TH, 2025.I'M KIMBERLY AKIN RODIER, THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 6:07 PM THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO 11.09 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT OR ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED UNDER AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE, KIMBERLY AKIRA DOYE.
AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.
LET THE REP, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
WE WILL NOW HAVE AN INVOCATION GIVEN BY ANNA COCA.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TOGETHER THIS EVENING.
WE INVITE YOU TO PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING.
EVEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
HELP US TO EACH LISTEN POLITELY AS OTHERS SHARE THEIR POINTS OF VIEW.
HELP US TO WORK AS A UNIFIED TEAM IN COMBINING IDEAS FOR A GREAT OUTCOME.
LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AS WE MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS IN THIS MEETING.
HELP US TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED.
MAY THOSE SHARING INFORMATION GIVE US PERTINENT POINTS SO WE ALL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.
HELP US TO BE INNOVATIVE AS WE BRAINSTORM SOLUTIONS.
HELP US TO WISELY EVALUATE ALL OPTIONS CONSIDERING THE PROS AND CONS.
HELP US TO BE UNIFIED IN MAKING THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS AND TO EFFECTIVELY CARRY THEM OUT.
AND IN EFFORTS TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
APPLICANTS WILL HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED BY THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
NOW HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.SO OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025.
DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO WE SHOULD SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIRWOMAN I, UH, UH, SUGGEST WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
UM, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.
I WILL NOW ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025 MEETING.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OF THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025.
OKAY, MR. LANGSTON, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? IF SO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OH, YOU WANNA, WE HAVE A VOTE.
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SO THE DISCUSSION IS FOLLOWED BY A SECOND.DID WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CASES LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE NEXT ITEM WE WILL HAVE IS ITEM NUMBER
[2. ZBA-25-09-0063 (Council District 6) – Special exception and variance to the front yard setback for a front yard carport permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1021 Coffeyville Trail, legally described as Lot 10, Block PP, Trailwood Addition 8th Increment, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-81 ]
TWO, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 3.I'LL PRESENT ITEM NUMBER TWO ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 3.
A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE FOR FRONT YARD CARPORT AND 10 21 COFFEEVILLE TRAIL ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 81.
AGAIN, THE INTENT IS TO CONSTRUCT A FRONT YARD CARPORT WITH THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION BEING FOR THE FRONT YARD CARPORT ITSELF.
AND THEN A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
FROM FIVE FEET TO TO THREE FEET ON SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPOSAL.
THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL MEASURE 458 SQUARE FEET WITH ABOUT 19.9 FEET WIDE, 23 FEET DEEP AND 12 FEET HIGH.
IT DOES MEET OUR ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
FRONT YARD CARPORTS, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT TO THREE FEET TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT CARPORT.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM, UH, THERE IS A LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORT WITHIN 800 FEET AND TYPICALLY IF THEY WERE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES, THIS WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED CARPORT.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT VARIANCE FOR THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, THEY ARE UH, HAVING THEIR ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
AND THIS IS A STREET VIEW IMAGE OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 52 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 3 AS REQUESTED.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, UM, FROM DAVID DEN BALL.
SORRY IF I, UH, MISPRONOUNCED THAT.
WILL YOU COME ON DOWN? HI DAVID.
I WAS WANTING TO SAY THE STREET VIEW PICTURE OF THAT PROPERTY.
IF YOU COULD, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, MY NAME'S DAVID BEBO.
ADDRESS 10 21 COFFEE BE TRAIL.
THE STREET VIEW THAT Y'ALL HAVE SEEN UP THERE, THAT'S ABOUT AN 18-YEAR-OLD PICTURE.
IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT ANYMORE.
YOU DIDN'T BRING ANY RECENT PICTURES?
I WAS LIKE, WHEN I SEEN THAT PICTURE I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, I THIS THING IS WAY NOTHING LIKE THAT.
ED TREE'S LONG GONE AND UH, THE WHOLE FRONT'S BEEN REMODELED.
NEW WINDOWS GARAGE DOOR AND EVERYTHING'S ALL NEW THERE NOW.
SO THAT'S JUST ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT WHEN I SEEN NOW THAT, OH GOD, THAT LOOKS ROUGH.
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DAVID? YES SIR.
KNOW YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE BEFORE US IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GO WITH 23 FOOT.
I MEAN, I WAS TWO FOOT SHORTER.
IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC REASON YOU NEED TO COME OUT THAT TWO MORE FOOT? I HAVE A LARGER TRUCK AND WE GET A LOT OF HELL UP IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE AND I JUST TRY TO KEEP, I GOT, UH, ALMOST $15,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE DONE ON MY TRUCK WITH HELL OUT THERE ONE DAY AND IT WON'T FIT IN A GARAGE.
AND UH, AND WE JUST WANNA GET IT UP ON OUR CARPORT.
BECAUSE MOST TRUCKS AREN'T 23 FOOT LONG.
NO, IT, BUT IT, THE WAY THE WIND WILL BLOW IN AT IT, WHERE IT, THE WAY IT ALWAYS COMES IN THERE, IT WOULD COME IN AND STILL GET THE HOOD OF THE TRUCK.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN AND IF IT GOT DECLINED OR WHATEVER, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A MESS.
YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT HASSLE? I JUST WAS JUST WONDERING
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WHY I NEEDED TO BE KNOW THAT LONG.I GOT A QUESTION, UH, ON THAT, UM, CARPORT, WILL IT BE THE, THE BEGINNING OF IT, WILL IT BE UP AGAINST THE HOUSE OR WILL IT HAVE ANY SPACE IN BETWEEN? THERE'LL BE A SPACE BETWEEN THEM.
SO IF IT, IF YOU MOVE IT UP, WILL IT BE ABOUT TWO FEET? UH, IT WILL NOT BE.
I'M FROM THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THAT.
IT'S BE THE SAME CONTRACTOR DID THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE.
UH, THEY RECOMMEND UH, ROUGHLY A FOOT AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ATTACHED TO IT.
ALRIGHT, HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. DAVID FOR THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE APPROVED ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 3 AS PRESENTED BY COUNSEL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND BY MS. COCA.
DO WE HAVE JOHN? OH, I'M SO SORRY MS. JOHNSTON.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? ACTUALLY THAT SHOULD BE BY STAFF.
PRESENTED BY STAFF WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF? YES.
WAS PRE AS WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
I SAID COUNCIL, IT WAS AS WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
UH, I'LL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALRIGHT, LOOKS LIKE A ONE MOTION PASSES.
ACTUALLY YOU, YOU STILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE IN OPPOSITION JUST TO CONFIRM.
UH, LET ME TAKE A VOTE IN OPPO, ANYONE THAT'S IN OPPOSITION OF THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
[3. ZBA-25-09-0065 (Council District 5) – Variances to the minimum lot depth, lot area, maximum lot coverage, and maximum density permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 434 Motley Street, legally described as a portion of Lot 1, Block B, Martha Lawn Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Two Family (2F) District ]
WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.ITEM NUMBER THREE, ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 5 IS A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES TO LOT DEPTH, LOT AREA AND LOT COVERAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 3 4 MOTLEY STREET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN UM, IN YELLOW ON THE RIGHT.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED TWO F DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE ATTACHED TOWN HOMES.
UM, THREE VARIANCES WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS PROJECT CONSTRUCTED AS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED MINIMUM LOT DEPTH, MINIMUM LOT AREA, AND MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
WE DID ORIGINALLY HAVE A FOURTH REQUEST FOR THE MAXIMUM DENSITY.
HOWEVER THE APPLICANT PROVIDED US WITH AN ACCURATE SURVEY.
WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY DO MEET THE UH DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.
ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PLATTED AS A SINGLE LOT.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REPL THE PROPERTY INTO THREE PROPOSED LOTS, LOT ONE A SHOWN IN RED, ONE B SHOWN IN GREEN AND ONE C SHOWN IN YELLOW.
THE FIRST VARIANCE REQUEST IS APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THE THREE PROPOSED LOTS AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH.
THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT DEPTH IS A HUNDRED FEET.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 68 FEET.
THE SECOND VARIANCE REQUEST IS APPLICABLE TO LOT ONE B ONLY AND THAT IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FROM THE REQUIRED 60% TO APPROXIMATELY 60.3%.
AND THE THIRD VARIANCE REQUEST IS ALSO APPLICABLE TO LOT ONE B AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA FROM THE REQUIRED MINIMUM OF THREE THOU 3,300 SQUARE FEET TO A MINIMUM OF 2040 SQUARE FEET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN BLUE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT IS ZONED TWO F.
YOU CAN SEE THE TWO F ZONING IS SHOWN IN ORANGE.
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS SINGLE FAMILY FOUR ZONING SHOWN IN YELLOW AND THEN NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MULTIFAMILY SHOWN IN A LIGHTER COLOR ORANGE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THREE LOTS THAT ARE BETWEEN 0.05 AND 0.09 ACRES THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS IN TWO F ZONING AS IS THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SITE.
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BETWEEN 0.1 ACRE OR GREATER.THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY FOUR DISTRICT AND THESE LOTS ARE GENERALLY 0.12 ACRES OR GREATER.
AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE ZONED MULTIFAMILY ONE DISTRICT ARE GENERALLY 0.13 ACRES OR GREATER.
HERE IS AN ELEVATION PICTURE TO GIVE YOU A BETTER SENSE OF THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN IN THIS COMMUNITY.
48 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT ZBA 2 5 0 8 0 0 6 1 AS REQUESTED.
UM, STAFF CAN SUPPORT THE VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE LOT DEPTH.
HOWEVER THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR LOT COVERAGE IN LOT AREA FOR LOT ONE B ARE SELF-CREATED HARDSHIPS.
THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE INCONSISTENT, IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
HOWEVER, IF THE BOARD DOES CHOOSE TO GRANT THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT SHALL, UM, BE REQUIRED TO REPL THE PROPERTY AND THEN ABIDE BY ALL OF THE APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES.
AND THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES.
WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME REPL THE PROPERTY? YES.
SO IT IS A SUBDIVISION OF A PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN REPL TO TAKE A SINGLE PROPERTY AND MAKE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES OUT OF IT, MULTIPLE LOTS OR YOU CAN REPL TO COMBINE LOTS TOGETHER.
SO, UM, IT IS JUST RECREATING A BUILDING SITE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FILED SOMEPLACE? IT IS, YES, IT IS FILED OF RECORD AT WHICHEVER COUNTY THE PLAT LIVES IN.
SO IN THIS CASE, I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY DALLAS COUNTY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TIFFANY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT A PLAT GOES THROUGH IT IS SUBMITTED MOTLEY STREET.
SO, UM, WHEN A PLAT APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, STAFF REVIEWS, UM, AND ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVES IN MOST CASES.
ONCE THE APPROVAL HAPPENS, THE APPLICANT TAKES IT FILES IT OF RECORD AT THE COUNTY AND RETURNS A FILED COPY OF THE PLAT.
AND AT THAT POINT, CITY STAFF UM, CONSIDERS THE PROPERTY RE PLATTED WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PLAT MAP.
SO IT'S A MODIFIED UM, SO THI THIS IS NOT A PLAT MAP, BUT IT'S VERY CLOSE.
IT DOES SEEK TO SHOW YOU GENERALLY HOW THE, THE PROPERTIES ARE PLATTED.
THIS IS MORE OF A PARCEL PARCEL MAP.
YEAH, MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS APPLICANT HERE? WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT CARD HERE FOR OZE.
ZUNIGA, YOU WANNA COME DOWN? YEAH.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE.
HELLO, HOW YOU DOING? GOOD, GOOD.
I LIVE AT FOUR 18 BREEZEWAY COURT, SUTER HILL, TEXAS 7 5 1 0 4.
SO THE REASON WHY I PRESENTED THIS AS IT IS, IS BECAUSE IF YOU'VE SEEN THOSE LAST SLIDES, THIS AREA LIES BETWEEN TWO FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY, FOUR AND MULTIFAMILY JUST DOWN THE BLOCK.
I WAS HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO, PROBABLY LIKE TWO YEARS AGO.
I DID PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CASE.
I BUILT THREE UH, TOWN HOMES IN THIS SAME AREA.
IT'S PROBABLY LIKE, IT'S A BLOCK DOWN FROM HERE AND UM, NOT EVEN LIKE 500 FEET AWAY FROM HERE IS UH, SAVANNAH SQUARE, WHICH IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS AREA IS REALLY MIXED, IT'S NOT ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IT'S MULTI-FAMILY, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY FOUR AND IT'S TWO FAMILY.
SO DUPLEXES OBVIOUSLY I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THOSE TOWN HOMES THAT I HAVE THAT I RENTED OUT EVENTUALLY.
UH, LIKE RIGHT NOW I HAVE 'EM UNDER, UH, RENT.
SO I HAVE THREE TENANTS IN THOSE THREE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE UH, IN LOTS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR SIZE.
IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEEPER.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT I WAS LIKE, OH, WELL A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TOLD ME, OH, I REALLY LIKE THESE TOWN HOMES.
I KIND OF WANT TO RENT ONE OUT AS WELL, OR EVEN IF THEY WANT TO BUY AND BUY.
BUT THAT'S WHY I PRESENTED THIS CASE AS IT IS BECAUSE IF, AS IF ANYBODY HAS EVER DRIVEN BY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU SEE THERE'S NO NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND NONE OF THESE STREETS AND NONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, BECAUSE OF THAT OBVIOUSLY, I WAS LIKE, WELL WHY IT WOULDN'T HURT TO, UH, PROPOSE THIS PROJECT AS IT IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE THING ABOUT TOWN HOMES, WELL I THINK ABOUT 'EM AS THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A HYBRID BETWEEN LIKE APARTMENTS AND HOUSES.
LIKE I SAID, SAVANNAH SQUARE IS JUST DOWN THE STREET AND IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON TOP OF YOU OR BELOW YOU.
WHEN YOU HAVE A TOWN HOME, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE LIVING ON TOP OF YOU, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BESIDE YOU.
AND BETWEEN, UM, UH, I I I USED TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX LONG AGO, SO I KNOW LIKE WHEN I HAVE NEIGHBORS ON TOP YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THEY'RE MAKING NOISE SO YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR PEOPLE ON TOP.
BUT THE THING ABOUT TOWN HOMES IS LIKE, IT'S STILL KIND OF LIKE A HYBRID BETWEEN
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A, LIKE I SAID, APARTMENT AND A HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS TO THE SIDE, OBVIOUSLY YOU SHARE A FIREWALL, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON TOP OF YOU.AND ALSO IT'S LIKE A HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN YARD, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIST CASE, YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN YARD, SIDE YARD, YOUR BACKYARD.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE THAT FEELING THAT IT'S LIKE A HOME, SO TO SPEAK.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY AN APARTMENT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT ALSO HAS A GARAGE, IT HAS A TWO CAR DRIVEWAY.
AND OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THERE'S SAVANNAH SQUARE APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST AROUND DOWN THE STREET AND DOWN THE STREET.
I ALSO HAVE THREE TOWN HOMES THAT ALSO CAME, UM, HERE WITH THE BOARD TWO YEARS AGO THAT YOU GUYS GRANTED, UH, VARIANCE FOR ME TO BUILD THOSE TOWN HOMES.
SO THAT'S WHY, UH, AND ON TOP OF THAT, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO NEW DEVELOPMENTS HERE.
THERE'S NO NEW HOUSES AND ESPECIALLY NOT NOTHING LIKE THIS WHERE UH, IT'S LIKE A NEW HOUSE FOR SOMEONE TO POTENTIALLY RENT.
SO IT'S LIKE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GIVING SOMEBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENT A BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME, UM, FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN AND YOU STILL HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WHERE IT'S LIKE, IT'S KIND OF AN APARTMENT, BUT IT'S NOT.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN YARD, YOUR OWN PRIVATE FENCE, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE NO ONE, NO ONE LIVING ON TOP OF YOU.
AND I THINK THAT'S MORE FLEXIBLE OBVIOUSLY.
UM, IF YOU LOOK DOWN I 20 AND UM, 1 61, THERE'S A TRIBECA TOWN HOMES, THE SIZE OF THOSE LOTS ARE PRETTY MUCH KIND OF THE SAME AS THIS.
I MEAN, YOU, I THINK THE APPLICANT FOR THAT, UH, THOSE TOWN HOMES CAME AND ALSO DID A COUPLE VARIANCES AS WELL THAT YOU GUYS GRANTED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY, THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING THEM AND SELLING THEM.
SO IT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CASE.
I'M CAME COMING HERE ASKING PRETTY MUCH, UH, VARIANCE FOR THAT.
THERE'S NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IT'S APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOWN HOMES 'CAUSE I'VE BUILT SOME THERE AS WELL AND THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH A MIXTURE.
SO I DON'T THINK IF ANYTHING IT WOULD LOOK OUT PLACE.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ALL THIS GOING ON, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COCA.
UH, AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UM, THE, UH, DEPARTMENT IS MAKING IF, IF IF IT'S APPROVED? UH, YES, CORRECT.
WELL THE VARIANCES IF WE GO BACK, IF IF APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO GRANT THE REQUEST.
THEY WOULD ABIDE BY THE BUILDING CODE.
OBVIOUSLY I I I'VE BEEN BUILDING HOUSES IN GRAND PRAIRIE FOR A WHILE NOW, SO I USUALLY DO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT I ALSO DO TOWN HOMES WHEN THE CHANCE PRESENTS ITSELF.
LIKE IN THIS CASE IT'S ZONED FOR MULTI, UH, TWO FAMILIES.
I WANNA TAKE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO DO THREE TOWNHOUSES INSTEAD OF TWO? 'CAUSE IF YOU DID TWO, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A YES MA'AM.
UH, BECAUSE, UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE TOWN HOMES AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO, THEY WANT THAT YARD, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE YARD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE, LIKE I SAY, IT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX SO TO SPEAK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY APARTMENT COMPLEX YOU HAVE SHARED SPACE, BUT IN THIS SPACE, IN THIS CASE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR OWN YARD.
BUT IT'S LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE YARD, YOU KNOW, HOW SUMMER IS IN TEXAS THAT YOU DON'T WANNA BE WATERING THE YARD AND EVERYTHING.
I COULD BUILD TOO, BUT IT'S LIKE THE YARD WOULD BE MUCH BIGGER, BUT IT'S LIKE TENANT REALLY DON'T CARE TO CARE ABOUT YARD WHEN IT COMES TO WATERING AND ALL THAT.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU JUST HAVE YOUR OWN PERSONAL SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT TOO MUCH WHERE LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMING THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER THING TOO IS UM, IF I BUILD THREE, OBVIOUSLY RENT WOULD BE A MUCH CHEAPER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THREE, UM, I'M TAKING MORE ADVANTAGE OF THE LAND OF WHAT IT COSTS FOR ME TO DEVELOP THE LAND.
SO THE LAND WILL BE DIVIDED INTO THE COST OF THREE, SO THREE TOWN HOMES.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DO THREE AS YEAH, SO LIKE THE AREA AS WELL.
YEAH, WELL I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THIS IS, THIS IS NOT APARTMENT COMPLEX AREA.
IT'S NOT ZONED FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS ZONED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ZONED FOR, YOU COULD DO A, YOU COULD DO A TOWNHOUSE WITH TWO HOMES ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY ZONED FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TYPE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY REALLY HAVE ISSUE WITH IS TRYING TO PUT SMALLER HOUSES IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT DESIGNED AND BUILT FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE REAL BIG ISSUE IS.
BUT THE THING ABOUT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BAKER IS THAT THESE WOULDN'T REALLY BE CONSIDERED TINY HOMES.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S SMALL IN THIS CASE IS LOT THE, IN TERMS OF LIVING AREA, THESE HOUSES, UM, IT WASN'T PRESENTED, BUT THESE HOUSES HAVE A MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF 1,800 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE A HOUSE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S SMALL IS THE LOT BECAUSE IN TERMS OF LIVING AREA, THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA THAT THESE TOWN HOMES HAVE, THEY HAVE MORE THAN 1,800 SQUARE FEET.
SO, UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT IS, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S TWO FAMILY, BUT RIGHT NEXT, LIKE RIGHT BEHIND THE, THE HOUSE, THE, SORRY, THE STREET IN THE BACK IS MULTI-FAMILY AND THE STREET IN FRONT IS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY FOUR.
IT'S KIND OF BETWEEN A CROSSROADS OF, UH, DIFFERENT ZONINGS.
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SO, BUT IT'S WHAT IT'S CRAIG.I WAS ON THE BOARD IN THE PAST, THE OTHER ONE, SO I I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT I HEAR TO DO WITH THIS.
UM, ARE YOU TWO STORY? YES MA'AM.
AND SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE SETBACK TO THE BACK FENCE WHERE THE SF STILL, UH, F TWO HOUSE IS, THEY'RE GONNA BE RIGHT ON THAT BACK FENCE, CORRECT? BECAUSE THE WA SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REQUIRED RARE SEP MIGHT BE 10 FEET.
SO THEY'RE STILL MEETING THAT.
IT'S HOW THE ZONING IS SET UP.
YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT, IT'S A TOWN HALL.
BUT I MEAN, I, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, LIKE COUNCILMAN BAKER SAID, OBVIOUSLY IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF I HAD ANYBODY, YOU KNOW HOW GRANDPA IS, YOU SENT OUT A SIGN THAT YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY FEELS STRONG ABOUT THAT, THEY WOULD BE HERE OR THEY WOULD SIT IN OPPOSITION TO THAT.
BUT OBVIOUSLY LIKE, UH, UH, PLANNING ZONE SAID THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION TO THAT.
SO I MEAN, THERE WAS PEOPLE HERE TALKING AGAINST IT THEN.
BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ZONING, THE MIXES OF ZONING THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
MR. ZANI, UH, CAN, CAN WE BRING UP THE, UH, PICTURE OF THE, UH, THE, THE PLAT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT, WHAT'S PROPOSED? THAT ONE? YEAH.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN ONE, TWO, AND THREE PLEASE? UM, LIKE WHAT DOES, WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN? YEP.
UH, SO NUMBER ONE IS THE LIVING AREA, LIKE THE LIVING OF IT.
NUMBER TWO IS THE, IS UH, THAT'S THE GARAGE.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE TOWN HOMES HAVE A, HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE, AND THEN NUMBER THREE WOULD BE THE FRONT PATIO PORCH.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALL THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT SIZE? YES, SIR.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT NUMBER ONE CLEARLY NOT IS ALL TWO STORY? YES, SIR.
SO THE TOTAL LIVING SPACE IN ONE IS 1,800 FEET? YES.
WELL, I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT MY PHONE BECAUSE I SUBMITTED IT TO THE CITY, BUT I GUESS THAT DIDN'T APPLY, DIDN'T SHOW IT, BUT IT'S AROUND LIKE 1,400 TO 1,800 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING BECAUSE IT'S TWO STORIES.
SO THE SECOND STORY STORY WILL LIKELY HAVE A REPEAT OF ONE AND TWO.
AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT, UH, YOU WERE GOING TO SAVE PEOPLE MONEY THIS WAY.
SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING TWO, TWO BUILDINGS HERE AND THREE BUILDINGS HERE? AS FAR AS THE SAVINGS FOR ME, THE RENTER OR THE HOMEOWNER? WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LAND, THE COST OF THE LAND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, YOU DIVIDE THAT COST BETWEEN THE THREE HOUSES INSTEAD OF TWO, AND IT'S MUCH BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO RENT.
YOU ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY I'M KIND OF ASKING YOU THAT.
WELL, I TAKE INTO RATIO OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, UM, THE RENTS THAT ARE IN THE APARTMENTS IN THE VICINITIES, THAT'S SAVANNAH SQUARE.
THERE'S A LOT OF NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
OBVIOUSLY, I TAKE THAT IN MIND TO STAY COMPETITIVE.
I TRY TO STAY LOWER THAN, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND, OR ANY NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND HOW BIG IS THE DRIVEWAY? UH, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, 18 FEET WIDE BY 17 FEET AND THEN TWO CAR GARAGE.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
OKAY, IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, MRS. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND, AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY COUNSEL ON VARIANCES, UH, ZBA 25 0 9 0 0 6 5, AND IF APPROVED, APPROVED AS VARIANCES AS REQUESTED BY COUNSEL.
WHO WAS THAT SECOND FROM, FROM CJ.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? OKAY.
IF NOT, I'LL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE MOTION FAILED BY VOTE OF FOUR, FIVE.
CAN NOTICE AN OPPOSITION RAISE THEIR HAND JUST ONE MORE TIME.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.[4. ZBA-25-09-0067 (Council District 1) – Variance to the maximum area of a rear carport permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 813 Canadian Circle, legally described as Lot 14, Block 7, International Estates Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-One (SF-1) District ]
OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 7.
THIS IS A VARIANCE TO THE MAXIMUM AREA FOR A REAR YARD CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT EIGHT 13 CANADIAN CIRCLE.
IT IS ZONE SINGLE FAMILY ONE RESIDENTIAL, AND THE INTENT IS TO CONSTRUCT A REAR YARD CARPORTS WITH A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AREA ALLOWED FOR A CARPORT.
THE CARPORT ITSELF MEASURES 630 SQUARE FEET.
THE MAXIMUM AREA THAT WE ALLOWED FOR A CARPORT IS 500 SQUARE FEET.
TYPICALLY REAR YARD CARPORTS DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS PROCESS.
THEY'RE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS VARIANCE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
AND SO THIS CARPORT DOES MEET OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE MAX AREA ALLOWED, AND IT IS ACCESSIBLE THROUGH A REAR ALLEY.
SO THIS IS NOT IN THE FRONT YARD, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGE ON SCREEN, UH, THEY WOULD BE ACCESSING IT FROM THAT REAR ALLEY.
AND I DO WANNA MENTION THAT THERE IS A LEGALLY PERMITTED FRONT YARD CARPORT RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND THIS ITEM WE DID SEND OUT FOR THIS ITEM, WE DID SEND OUT 39 NOTICES.
ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RETURNED, OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA NOTE THAT I MENTIONED THE BRIEFING IS THAT THIS CARDBOARD HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND THE APPLICANT WAS NOT AWARE OF THE PROCESS TO DO SUCH A PROJECT AT THE TIME.
AND SO THEY ARE, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, OR THE BUILDERS AT LEAST, TO GET THAT RECTIFIED AND PROPERLY PERMITTED.
AND SO STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 7 AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE CARPORT THAT'S FINISHED? I DO NOT HAVE AN IMAGE.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A DIAGRAM SHOWING A ELEVATION OF THE, UH, CARPORT ITSELF THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE WHEN THEY COME UP.
I CAN'T BRAG ON HIS WORK THAT WAY.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, TO ASK? YEAH, AND I JUST FORGOT WHAT IT WAS.
UM, THE, THIS IS A REAR ACCESS.
THERE'S A REAR DRIVEWAY ON THIS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
UM, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THE, UM, RED AREA, THAT'S, UM, I DO SEE THAT, YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, EXTENDING PAST THIS LINE HERE WHERE MY MOUSE IS.
SO THIS HERE IS THE DRIVEWAY, AND OF COURSE THE AREA UNDER THE CARDBOARD ITSELF IS PAVED AS WELL.
SO THEY, SO WHAT YOU'RE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE SIX DOTS AND THAT'S WOULD BE ILLEGAL AROU ALLOWED.
AND THEN THE ONE 30 EXTRA IS THAT OTHER PIECE.
SO THE AREA COVERED IN THE DOTS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IS THE CARDBOARD, WHICH IS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY NEED, UH, PERMITS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT IS EXCEEDING 500 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE MAX THAT WE ALLOW.
AND THEN THIS AREA HERE THAT'S PASSED THE DOTS IS JUST, UH, CEMENT OR PAVEMENT THAT'S PASSED THE CARDBOARD ITSELF INTO THE, UH, ALLEYWAY, CONNECTING TO THE ALLEYWAY LIKE A DRIVEWAY.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE, UH, LETTER IN FAVOR? YES, I CAN DO THAT.
SO WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT FROM LINDA CARROLL, UH, AT EIGHT 17 CANADIAN CIRCLE IN BRADBERRY, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 0 FOR THIS ITEM IN SUPPORT WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OF, I APPLAUD THE POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS NEW HOMER, EXCUSE ME, THIS NEW HOMEOWNER IS MAKING, IS MAKING NO TO HIS PROPERTY AND HELPS HIS HOME VALUE, AND BY EXTENSION, MY HOME VALUE END QUOTE.
SO EIGHT 17 IS LITERALLY NEXT DOOR.
I, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO YOU HAVE THE BUILDER HERE? YES, MA'AM.
WHO DIDN'T PULL A PERMIT CORRECT.
HAS THEY MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT WE WOULD'VE REQUIRED FOR A CARPORT? SO THEY DO HAVE A DIAGRAM OF THE, IS IT ENGINEERED?
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THEY CAN ANSWER THAT.IF, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THE BILL APPEAR.
LET'S SAY APPLE ONE CAN COME ON DOWN.
CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, I LIVE IN 8 1 3 CANADIAN CIRCLE.
UM, I DO HAVE THESE PORTFOLIOS, UH, I CAN PASS AROUND TO Y'ALL SO I CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT I HAVE FOR DESIGN.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY I ONLY HAVE SIX PRINTED OUT AND THERE'S NINE OF Y'ALL.
UM, FIRST OFF, UH, I WANNA START, START OFF WITH A RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OF RESIDENTIAL VARIANCE FOR THE CARPORT THAT I'VE CONSTRUCTED ON MY BACKYARD PROPERTY.
THE STRUCTURE OF MAYOR'S APPROXIMATELY 634 SQUARE FEET, UH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE CITY'S CURRENT MAXIMUM SQUARE FEET OF 500 FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THIS IS MY, UH, FIRST TIME HOME.
SO THIS, UH, PROPERTY REPRESENTS A PART OF MYSELF.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, SO I KNOW YOU MIGHT THINK, WELL, WHY IS HE TRYING TO MAKE IT BIGGER THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED OR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS? UM, I HAD A VEHICLE STOLEN LAST YEAR WITH, UH, MY PERSONAL TOOLS AND BELONGINGS.
UM, I DO, UM, ELECTRICAL WORK ON A MASTER ELECTRICIAN, AND I HAVE A, UM, SPRINTER VAN WITH MY TOOLS.
AND, UH, AS WELL, I HAVE MY PERSONAL VEHICLE.
SO THE SPRINTER VAN'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 18 FEET LONG.
AND, UH, MY, UH, 2,500, UH, DIESEL TRUCK IS ABOUT 18 AS WELL.
UM, THAT BEING SET UP IS WHERE I ACTUALLY MADE BIGGER THAN WHAT IT WAS.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF CARPORT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT CON CON CONVEN, CONVEN, CONVINCE CONVENIENCING, BUT ALSO PROTECTING MY GARDEN, MY PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN GRAND PRAIRIE FOR 26 YEARS, BORN AND RAISED, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE MY HOME REPRESENTS PART OF MYSELF AND, UM, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER COCA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS SUBJECT.
I HAVE, I HAVE A LITTLE MORE QUESTION.
I, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK, UH, IN FRONT OF.
WHAT WAS THE REASON YOU'VE COME BACK BEFORE? I MEAN, COME BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S THE RE WHAT'S THE REASON? SO TO BE ABLE TO, MY, UH, MY CARPORT IS 603 4 SQUARE FEET, UHHUH
AND THE MAX SIZE IS 500 SQUARE FEET.
AND, UM, I WAS, UM, TOLD THAT I HAD TO ATTEND THE ZPA MEETING AND SPEAK TO A LAWYER SO I CAN GET A A, THE REQUEST GRANTED BY YA.
UM, I REALLY, I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CARPORTS.
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THAT I DON'T HAVE A PICTURE ON SOMETHING THAT I'M FIXING TO APPROVE, NOR DOES IT HAVE, IS IT, IT, MY UNDERSTANDING OF ANYTHING OVER 26 FEET HAS TO BE ENGINEERED.
I DON'T SEE ANY, UM, ENGINEERED PLANS IN HERE.
SO PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS WILL REQUIRE THEM PER, IF THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE.
AND WE'LL TYPICALLY, UM, IF ENGINEERING OF THE DESIGN OR THE STRUCTURE OR THE FOOTING IS REQUIRED, TYPICALLY THEY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT LIKE A LETTER FROM THE ENGINEER SAYING THAT THEY VERIFY THE DESIGN THAT WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE BUILDING BUILDING PERMIT.
BECAUSE ENGINEERED PLANS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME, BUT I THINK I CAN GO, CAN I CLICK FORWARD? BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU HAVE ENGINEERED PLANS? UH, YES.
IT SHOULD BE ON THE, I WANT TO SAY THE FOURTH OR FIFTH SHEET.
SO I HAVE THE DESIGN, MY MYLAB DESIGN.
UH, THE ELEVATIONS AND THEN THE, WHERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL OF THE, ON THE SURVEY LAYOUT.
THESE, THESE AREN'T ENGINEERED PLANS? NO, NO, NO.
I DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY OF PICTURE OF IT.
SO IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PASSES THE CITY CODE CITY DEVELOPMENT, WHAT HAPPENS? WE DON'T APPROVE BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THEY COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE IBC, THE BUILDING CODE AND THE FIRE CODE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS OF THERE ARE CAR PER BUILDING CODE.
SO FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU ARE NOT APPROVING.
THE STRUCTURE YOU ARE APPROVING VARIANCE, YOUR VARIANCE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE.
COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER REGULATIONS WILL BE HANDLED BY STAFF ON THE BACK END.
YEAH, WE, WELL, HE'S, HE'S HERE.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO DECIDE FOR THE VARIANCE WHETHER YOU CAN HAVE THAT CARPORT OR NOT.
IS THAT THE SIZE OF WELL, HERE, THE VARIANCE.
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RIGHT.AND THE VARIANCE, WHICH THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF CARPORTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OVER THE SIZE.
HE'S KIND OF WENT AT IT BACKWARDS.
HE DIDN'T GET HIS PERMIT FIRST.
AND SO NOW HE'S GOTTA GO THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS MM-HMM
AND SO WE'RE HERE FOR THE VARIANCE.
UM, IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH, WHO, WHO BUILT THE CARPORT?
UH, I DID IT IN BETWEEN SUNDAYS FOR THE WHOLE MONTH OF AUGUST.
UM, IT, IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THE SUMMER.
AND UM, ARE YOU A CONTRACTOR? UH, ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR.
I DO A LOT OF, UH, I'VE BEEN IN THE TRADE FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS ALREADY, BUT I MEAN, I COME FROM, MY PARENTS HAVE TAUGHT ME FROM, YOU KNOW, HARD WORK IS SWEAT.
YOU JUST GOT JUST CONSTRUCTIONS.
I'VE BEEN AROUND THE WHILE, SO.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.
UH, MR. ALONSO, THANK YOU FOR COMING BEFORE US.
SO I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, UH, CARPORT DESIGN PLAN.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT, THIS IS IRON POSTS AND A SHEET METAL ROOF.
UM, I'VE, I'VE SEEN THAT, UM, OPTION ON, OR NOT OPTION, BUT, UM, GRAND PRAIRIE DOESN'T ALLOW CORRUGATED ROOFS, BUT IT'S SHEET METALS, UH, WITH THE RIBS ON IT.
AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GAVE US YOUR, UM, YOUR INFORMATION IN.
IT MENTIONS YOU MENTIONED HERE THAT YOU HAD YOUR, YOU MENTIONED, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT ON HERE, BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD YOUR TRUCK, UH, BROKEN INTO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HOW DOES THE CARPORT HELP YOU WITH THE SECURITY OF A TRUCK BEING BROKEN INTO PLEASE? SO RIGHT NOW, UM, I WORK OUT OF TOWN.
UM, I'M ABLE TO LEAVE MY PERSONAL VEHICLE IN THE BACKYARD, UM, NOT BE ABLE TO, I MEAN, PROTECT FROM DAMAGE AS WELL.
UM, I CAN LOCK UP THE BACK OF MY GATE AND I CAN CONFIDENT LEAVE TOWN AND KNOW, HEY, WELL MY VEHICLE WILL BE SAFE.
UM, WHEN I COME BACK ON THE WEEKENDS, I HAVE MY SPRINTER VAN WITH ALL MY TOOLS AND I CAN BE, HEY, I CAN CONFIDENTLY LEAVE MY VEHICLE, MY PERSONAL, MY WORK VEHICLE WHILE I'M HOME.
AND I JUST, IT'S JUST THE FEAR THAT I HAVE HAPPENING.
AGAIN, IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY OF, IT'S MY WAY OF THINKING.
HEY, IT'S A SOLUTION FOR IT TO BE SAFE THIS TIME.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I WORK AT A TOWN, I COME IN AND OUT, I 24 SERVICE ON CALL.
AND IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT I, I I'M HOPE THAT, SO IT, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SEALS OFF THE BACK OF YOUR
I MEAN, JUST LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT HOME.
UM, I WOULD HATE TO LEAVE IT, LEAVE MY VEHICLES IN THE FRONT.
UM, SIR, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A GATE THAT GOES OAKS AND CLOSES? YES.
SO HE DOES HAVE A GATE THAT'S JUST GONNA OPEN AND CLOSE SO IT OPENS AND CLOSES.
WHEN I LEAVE MY HOUSE, I, I LOCK IT, I TURN OFF, YOU KNOW, I, I MAKE SURE THAT I'M, I'M CONFIDENT ABOUT IT BEING THERE.
SO, UM, OKAY, SO THE CARPORT, THERE'S A CARPORT AND THEN A GATE BEHIND IT? YES, SIR.
AND UM, I WOULD, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CARPORTS, UM, BUT NOT IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
I WOULD'VE DONE IN THE FRONT, BUT I JUST, I TO NOT BE AN OBSTRUCTED OR, YOU KNOW, BE A EYESORE.
I DECIDED TO DO IT IN THE BACK.
UM, I CAN'T FIT MY TRUCK IN THE GARAGE.
IT'S TOO TALL AND IT'S TOO LONG.
AND MY SPRINTER VAN AS WELL, IT'S ABOUT 10 AND A HALF FOOT TALL.
I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SO SORRY.
BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, UM, WE HAVE REALIZED THAT THE STEP HAS LISTED THE AREA OF A CARPORT AT SIX 30.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROPOSAL IS LISTED 6 34.
IF WE ALLOW THE VARIANCE ONLY FOR SIX 30, THAT MEANS YOU'LL HAVE TO REDUCE THAT FOUR FEE SUB FOUR SQUARE FEET SOMEWHERE.
IF THIS IS ASSIGNED, COULD YOU CONFIRM THAT THE 6 34 IS ACTUAL SIZE THAT YOU WILL WANT? IS THAT BASED ON THE CALCULATION? UM, CAN, SO WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS IT? RIGHT, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE APPLICATION ON WHAT WE RECEIVED, UM, WE LISTED YOUR, UH, AREA OF THE CARPORT TO BE SIX 30.
BUT ON YOUR LETTER YOU'RE SAYING 6 34, THE FOUR FEE TO US IS NOT A BIG A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL NOT MEETING IT.
BUT IF WE APPROVE A VARIANCE ONLY FOR THAT 130 SQUARE FEET, YOU CANNOT BUILD ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO ACTUALLY BILL 6 34, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT WE MAKE BOARD APPROVES IT FOR 6 34.
I YES, I GOT IT REMAINS IF WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED TO YOU AND WHAT WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION IS WHAT IS IN THAT PORTFOLIO, THOSE DIMENSIONS.
BECAUSE I'M COMING UP WITH 6 84 BEFORE Y'ALL EVEN SAID THAT.
WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S YES, YOU'RE COMING UP BECAUSE YOU'RE MULTIPLYING THOSE NUMBERS NUMBERS UP THERE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I THINK IT IS
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17 FOOT AND NINE, 10 INCHES.AND WHEN YOU'RE MULTIPLYING, IT CAN MAKE IT LOOK EXPONENTIALLY BIGGER WHEN MAYBE IT'S NOT.
BUT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS 17 FOOT AND 10 INCHES BY 37 FOOT AND 10 AND A HALF INCHES.
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A SLAB THERE FOR CONCRETE, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE NO, NO WORRIES.
SHE'S MULTIPLYING THAT DIMENSION AND DEFINITION MUCH.
WE CAN SIMPLY MODIFY THAT IN OUR VOTING MOTION.
SO, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR NUMBER? WE'RE LOOKING FOR JANE JUNE.
IT SHOULD COME FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, I THINK, CAN YOU CONFIRM? YES.
6 34 SQUARE FEET? WELL, I THINK MM-HMM
THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU IS FOR THAT DESIGN.
AND SO THE APPLICATION, THE, THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU, IF YOU LOOK ON THE VERY LONG THING, THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS THE DIMENSIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED, THE, THE DIMENSIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED RIGHT THERE.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT IS PRESENTED.
SO IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT AS HE HAS APPLIED, YOU CAN JUST INDICATE IN YOUR MOTION AS PRESENTED THAT YOU ARE MOVING TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MRS. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 7 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND BY MR. WHITE.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? OKAY, I'LL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF NINE ZERO.
[5. ZBA-25-09-0068 (Council District 1) – Special exception for a garage conversion permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1413 Canadian Circle, legally described as Lot 1, Block 8, Camelot Acres Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-One (SF-1) District ]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE.ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 8 AT 1413.
CANADIAN CIRCLE IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, ONE DISTRICT, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE TWO REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
A QUICK NOTE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN, UH, 300 FEET OF ANOTHER LEGALLY PERMITTED, PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSION.
HOWEVER, THE BUFFER IS VERY CLOSE.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN TO THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN.
YOU CAN SEE THE PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSION IN ORANGE AND THE 300 FOOT BUFFER SHOWN IN BLUE.
THE PROPOSED CONVERSION WILL ADD APPROXIMATELY 540 SQUARE FEET.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CONVERSION IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIVING AREA AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED TO THE LEFT.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT GARAGE.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVEWAY THAT HAS, UM, ENOUGH ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
STAFF SENT 32 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 8 AS REQUESTED.
MADAM CHAIR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? PERFECT.
YES, JUDGE, WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THAT QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, AN APPLICANT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I KNOW YOU SAID NO.
I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED TO HERE, BUT I JUST, THE APPLICATION, UM, YOU MIGHT AS WELL COME ON DOWN
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS
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FOR THE RECORD.YES, MY NAME'S ELIZABETH BONTE.
I LIVE AT 1413 CANADIAN CIRCLE, GRAND PRAIRIE, 7 5 0 5 0.
I'M NOT GOOD IN PUBLIC SPEAKING.
UM, BUT YES, UM, MY WISH IS THAT I CAN CONVERT MY GARAGE INTO A LIVING SPACE.
I HAVE GONE RECENTLY THROUGH A HARDSHIP.
MY LIFE HAS CHANGED AND I ALSO HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WERE COMING UP WITH, WE CAME UP WITH JUST TO, UM, ACCOMMODATE AND PROBABLY HELP EACH OTHER OUT A LITTLE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO.
UH, CAN WE PUT UP THE, UH, THE PICTURE OF THE, UH, PROPOSED MM-HMM
UH, YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION HERE.
DO YOU, HOW DOES SOMEBODY EXIT THE GARAGE IN CASE OF A IN CASE CASE THEY HAVE TO EXIT IN AN EMERGENCY.
HOW DO THEY GET OUT? WE, WELL, WE USED TO HAVE A DOOR WHERE IT'S A STORAGE ROOM THAT'S STILL THE EXISTING GARAGE.
BUT SINCE WE ARE MAKING THOSE CHANGES, UM, I HAVEN'T, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT PUTTING A DOOR, AN EXTERIOR DOOR, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, THE, UM, SO, SO SORRY MR. WOLF.
UM, THE BEDROOMS, THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES ANY BEDROOM TO HAVE A EXIT WINDOW FOR IN CASE OF FIRE.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR MEANS OF EXIT IF THERE'S IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A WINDOW HERE, SO RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
THAT AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING PROVIDED, BUT AT THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY SHOW A WINDOW THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO DOOR REQUIRED FOR EXITING JUST A WINDOW.
WHEN IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, MIGHT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO THINK OF, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT TO VOTE ON IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY, HEY, I DON'T SEE AN EXIT DOOR.
I MIGHT BE SOMETHING, THINK ABOUT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S REALLY, WE'RE HERE TO VOTE ON.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO GIVE THEM THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO BUILD IT.
AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S GOT A PRETTY GOOD REASON, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME FAMILY ISSUES AND STUFF AND SO THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE, AND EVERYTHING, AND ARE SOME OTHER GARAGE, YOU KNOW, CONVERSIONS IN THE AREA.
NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN 300 FOOT, BUT THERE ARE SOME.
AND SO, BUT THEY, AND SO THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD REASON THAT THEY'VE GOT AN ISSUE THAT THEY'VE GOT A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU'VE GOT A GOOD THING TOO.
HEY, MAYBE I DON'T SEE A DOOR, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S A FIRE, YOU MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN.
UH, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING TO BRING UP, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO VOTE ON THAT.
I DIDN'T INTEND TO VOTE ON THAT, BUT YOU DID ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
SO I THINK I, I, I'VE MET MY, UH, OBLIGATION TO YOU OKAY.
TO THINK ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO'S GONNA BE STUCK HERE.
I WILL DEFINITELY CONSIDER ONE MORE QUESTION.
YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY WITH YOUR FAMILY.
UM, IS, NEVERMIND, I, I, I'M GOING TO NOT ASK THAT QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OKAY, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MRS. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.
WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 9 0 0 6 8 AS PRESENTED BY COUNSEL.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. LANGSTON.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FROM MR. LANGSTON.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ON THE MOTION? OKAY.
HEARING NONE, I'LL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF NINE ZERO.
OKAY, WE HAVE NOW MADE IT TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UH, CITIZEN SPEAKING FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
WE WILL, UH, ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:01 PM THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOARD MEMBERS.