Sep 09, 2025 Planning &amp; Zoning 09092025

FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, THE CONSENT, THE NEXT MATTER

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE'S ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 25TH, 2025 P AND Z MEETING.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NONE FOR THIS ITEM, MA'AM.

MEETING? I'LL SECOND THAT.

COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM THE AUGUST 25TH

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WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM ONE BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND MOTION PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.

FIRST CASE, PLEASE.

YEAH, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, BRETT, I SHOULD HAVE THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

UH, ON YOUR, UM, AGENDA, THERE IS ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

ITEM TWO CPA 25 0 6 0 0 1 1.

AND ITEM THREE ZERO N 25 0 6 0 0 2 3.

BOTH ITEMS HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THANK YOU, BRETT.

THERE WE GO.

YEAH, IT'S COMING ON.

I THINK IT'S JUST WAITING.

[4. CPA-25-07-0017– Comprehensive Plan Amendment – Amend the 2018 Comprehensive Plan by updating the Master Thoroughfare Plan and Map by removing a planned Collector, 2-lane Undivided (C2U) roadway located south of the IH 20 EB Frontage Road and west of FM 1382 (Belt Line Rd) ]

THIS IS A AMENDMENT TO THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UPDATING THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO REMOVE A COLLECTOR, UH, TWO LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY AS PART OF A PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THE LOCATION OF THIS ROADWAY IS JUST SOUTH OF THE I 20 EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND WEST OF FM 1382 BELTLINE ROAD.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN RED ON THE MAP, UH, IS BEING BISECTED BY THIS COLLECTOR ROADWAY.

YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.

UH, THIS COLLECTOR'S INTENDED AS A RELIEF ROUTE FOR BELTLINE AND I 20, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE WESTCHESTER PARKWAY EXTENSION.

YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTION THERE, UH, TO THAT EAST TO WEST.

THAT'S THE BLUE LINE, IS A PROPOSED PLANNED PRINCIPAL MATERIAL RUNNING FROM WESTCHESTER PARKWAY ALL THE WAY EAST TO BELTLINE ROAD.

SO AS PART OF THIS, UH, REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS REQUIRED BY STAFF.

AND WHAT THIS TIA DID WAS FORECAST TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND MEASURE EXPECTED DELAY.

UH, SO THE ANALYSIS USED IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS 2045 REGIONAL TRAFFIC DEMAND MODEL AS BASELINE AND ANALYSIS ASSUMED THE REMOVAL OF THE SUBJECT ROADWAY AS, AND THEN TRAFFIC WAS REDISTRIBUTED, UH, REDISTRIBUTED, UH, TO THE OTHER ADJACENT ROADWAYS AND LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS IDENTIFIED.

UH, THE RESULTS OF ANALYSIS SHOW THAT THE REMOVAL OF THIS ROADWAY LINK DOES NOT POSE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO DAILY TRAFFIC CAPACITY.

ALONG I, UM, INTERSTATE 20 EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD, UH, THE NO BUILD SCENARIO.

SO THE SCENARIO LOOKING AT IF WE TOOK THAT ROAD OUT OF THE EQUATION, UM, PUSHED ABOUT THREE TO 7% TRAFFIC INCREASES ON THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS.

UM, AND THE ANALYSIS ALSO INDICATED THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE AN INTERNAL ACCESS DRIVE THAT WOULD SERVE TO THEN HELP PULL THAT TRAFFIC BACK ONTO THE SITE AND HAVE ADDITIONAL CIRCULATION IN THE AREA.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS A PROPOSED SUP SITE PLAN FOR AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

SALES SERVICE AND DELIVERY CENTER PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED SO THE REMOVAL OF THE ROAD IS REQUESTED.

WHILE STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE AREA WOULD BE BETTER WITH THE ROAD, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STATES THAT THE REMOVAL OF THIS PROPOSED MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN ROAD FROM THE PLAN WOULD NOT NE NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE AREA.

UH, THIS IS A COMPANION ITEM TO THE NEXT ITEM.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HEAR THEM TOGETHER.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRETT? YOU HAD GREAT PRESENTATION IN THE BRIEFING.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

DO I HAVE, CAN I WAIT ON THAT OR DO, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? I'M SORRY.

WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR ITEM FOUR.

ASHLEY JOHNSON WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

IF QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE THEM TO COME UP.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

ASHLEY JOHNSON.

I'M CIVIL ENGINEER WITH KIMLEY HORN.

UH, YOUR ADDRESS? YES.

50 50 CAPITAL AVENUE, APARTMENT 3 29, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 6.

HMM.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP.

UM, JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE, THIS, THIS BUILDING.

THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIANCES AND I WAS TOLD THAT YOU HAVE OTHER, UM, BUILD OUTS THE SAME WAY, IF YOU COULD, MS. SMITH, UM, MS. JOHNSON IS THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

ITEM FIVE WHO CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

AND, UM, HAS SIGNED UP JUST TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR.

WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SPEAKER FOR

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SO THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DID YOU WANNA TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT? UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF JONATHAN, ANYTHING I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO BOTH IF YOU'D LIKE.

YES.

I THINK, GO AHEAD.

LET'S, LET'S LET, UM, STAFF PRESENT THE CASE OKAY.

FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

AND THEN, UM, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE QUESTIONS.

IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, JULIE? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

YEP.

[5. SUP-25-07-0023 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - EV Auto Sales (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for an Auto Dealer (Internet Only), Auto Repair (Minor), Auto Specialty Repair, and Outside Storage (Accessory Use) on 7.71 acres. A portion of Tract 3, Benjamin F. Smith Survey, Abstract No. 1377, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Commercial (C) District, and within the IH 20 Corridor Overlay, and addressed as 1700 E IH 20]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS SUP 2 5 0 7 0 0 2 3.

THIS IS AN SUP SITE PLAN REQUEST FOR AN AUTO DEALER INTERNET ONLY AUTO REPAIR, MINOR SPECIALTY AUTO REPAIR, AND ACCESSORY OUTSIDE STORAGE USE.

OUR SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.71 ACRES AND IS SURROUNDED ON THE WEST AND SOUTH SIDES BY VACANT PROPERTY.

THE HIGHWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND TO THE EAST.

WE HAVE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE C STORES AND GAS STATIONS.

THIS PROJECT INCLUDES A SHOWROOM WHERE VEHICLES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO VIEW AND TEST DRIVE CUSTOMER EDUCATION AND ONLINE ORDERING ASSISTANCE WILL BE OFFERED AND PRODUCTS SUCH AS SOLAR PRODUCTS, BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS, AND FUTURE PRODUCTS WILL BE DISPLAYED.

NO VEHICLE INVENTORY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AT THIS LOCATION.

THERE WILL ALSO BE DELIVERY SERVICES PROVIDED FOR CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THEIR VEHICLES ONLINE AND HAVE THOSE VEHICLES DELIVERED TO THIS LOCATION.

DELIVERY SPECIALISTS WILL MEET CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDE EDUCATION ABOUT FEATURES AND TECHNOLOGY IN THEIR NEW ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND FINALLY, WE WILL HAVE A, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE A SERVICE CENTER THAT PROVIDES SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE REPAIRS, SUCH AS TIRE CHANGES, BRAKE REPAIRS, SUSPENSION REPAIR, AND MINOR COSMETIC REPAIRS.

NO AUTO BODY OR COLLISION REPAIR WILL BE OFFERED AT THIS LOCATION.

THE APPLICANT ANTICIPATES EMPLOYING APPROXIMATELY 40 SALES AND DELIVERY ASSOCIATES.

HERE IS OUR SITE PLAN.

THE PROPERTY LINE IS SHOWN IN YELLOW.

THERE IS A 51,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STORY BUILDING PROPOSED WITH A 6,400 SQUARE FOOT SHOWROOM AND AN APPROXIMATELY 45,000 SQUARE FOOT SERVICE CENTER.

THEY WILL BE PROVIDING REQUIRED PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS, EMPLOYEES, AND SERVICE BAYS, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, VEHICLE STORAGE SPACES.

AND AS BRETT MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS THAT IS PROPOSED ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.

IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THIS POINT OF ACCESS AND MUTUAL ACCESS DRIVE WILL SERVE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL MEETS OR EXCEEDS DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC EXCEPT FOR THE PROPOSED HEIGHT.

A TWO FOOT VARIANCE IN HEIGHT IS REQUESTED TO ACCOMMODATE PROPOSED PARAPET WALLS.

PARKING IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE 10.

IN APPENDIX F, THE TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING SPACES IS 84.

VEHICLE STORAGE PARKING DOES NOT HAVE A PARKING CALCULATION.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 400 AND V 15 VEHICLE STORAGE SPACES, WHICH DOES EXCEED THE MAXIMUM AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING PERMEABLE MATERIALS FOR 13 SPACES.

JUST A NOTE THAT APPENDIX F REQUIRES 50% OF PARKING SPACES ABOVE THE MAXIMUM TO BE OF PERMEABLE MATERIALS, AND THERE'S WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

AGAIN, AS BRETT MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A 30 FOOT ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT PROPO PROPOSED ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE TO PROVIDE A CONNECTION FROM INTERSTATE 20 TO A FUTURE ROADWAY PLANNED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF THE ACCESS DRIVE SHOWN IN RED.

THE REMAINDER OF THE ROAD IS TO BE BUILT BY OTHERS AS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN HIGHWAY 20 AND THE FUTURE WESTCHESTER PARKWAY.

HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF CONSTRUCTING THE ENTIRE 30 FOOT ACCESS DRIVE, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ESCROW FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE CONTINUATION OF THE ACCESS DRIVE TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL GENERALLY MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE EIGHT.

IN APPENDIX F, THE SITE PLAN DOES PROPOSE A WATER LINE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A UTILITY EASEMENT RUNNING ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE EASEMENT AND THE WATERLINE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A MIX OF TREES AND ORNAMENTAL TREES TO BE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE UTILITY EASEMENT STAFF ALSO NOTES THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A REDUCED NUMBER OF PARKING LOT TREES WITHIN THE VEHICLE STORAGE AREAS

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FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES.

THE BUILDING FACADES FEATURE METAL CANOPIES, TRANSOM WINDOWS STEPPED PARAPETS REVEALS A CM PANELS AND COLOR VARIATIONS.

APPENDIX F CONTAINS TWO WINDOW REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER ONE FACADE SHALL CONSIST OF WINDOWS IN AN AREA EQUAL TO 50% OF THE LENGTH OF ALL FACADES.

AND TWO WINDOWS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR 30% OF THE AREA OF STREET FACING FACADES.

APPENDIX F ALSO REQUIRES FACADE FACADES TO INCLUDE CANOPIES ALONG AT LEAST 25% OF THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR FACADES.

AND THE TABLE BELOW.

YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE 15% OF, UM, THE REQUIRED 30% OF THE STREET FACING WINDOWS ON THE STREET FACING FACADES.

SORRY GUYS.

UM, 32% OF THE TOTAL LENGTH AND CANOPIES TOTALING 17%.

APPENDIX F REQUIRES THAT AT LEAST 25% OF A FACADE TO BE FINISHED WITH MASONRY AND TEXTURE APPLICATIONS.

ON TILT WALL FACADES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE NO MASONRY OR TEXTURE APPLICATIONS.

APPENDIX F ALSO ALLOWS POLISHED METAL PANELS WITH LESS THAN 20% REFLECTANCE ON UP TO 20% OF ANY BUILDING FACADE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CM METAL PANELS WITH LESS THAN 20% REFLECTANCE ON APPROXIMATELY 20%, 26% OF THE NORTHERN FACADE.

APPENDIX F ALSO REQUIRES GARAGE BAY DOORS TO BE AT LEAST 70% GLASS AND LOCATED AT THE SIDE OR REAR OF THE BUILDINGS AND NOT ORIENTED PARALLEL WITH DEDICATED STREET THOROUGHFARE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING GARAGE BAY DOORS THAT ARE LESS THAN 70% GLASS AND LOCATED ON THREE OF THE FACADES.

ONE OF THEM IS A DEDICATED STREET THOROUGHFARE.

AND FINALLY, AGAIN, THE ARTICLE SIX OF THE UDC REQUIRES A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 25 FEET.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A TWO FOOT VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR PARAPET WALLS.

HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

SO HERE ARE THE VARIANCE REQUESTS, BUT I WANNA PREFACE IT BY SAYING THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THESE VARIANCES LISTED BELOW.

DUE TO THE BRAND STANDARD BUILDING DESIGN AND OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROPOSED BUSINESS, A VARIANCE TO THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO ALLOW THE BUILDING TO BE 27 FEET EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 25 FEET REQUESTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED PARAPET WALLS.

A VARIANCE TO ALLOW PARKING TO BE 499 SPACES EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM OF 84 SPACES.

THIS VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW FOR 415 VEHICLE STORAGE SPACES, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 13 PERMEABLE MATERIAL SPACES REDUCED FROM THE REQUIRED 208 A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING LOT TREES FROM 50 TO FIVE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THE PARKING AREAS NEAREST THE FRONTAGE ROAD, AND THE WESTERN ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT.

A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF FIVE GALLON SHRUBS FROM 671 TO TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO FIVE GALLON SHRUBS.

STAFF NOTES THAT SHRUBS ARE BEING PROVIDED AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, A VARIANCE TO THE APPENDIX F SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR BAY DOORS TO ALLOW GARAGE BAY DOORS TO HAVE LESS THAN 70% GLASS AND BE PARALLEL TO DEDICATED STREET OR AFFAIRS.

A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT WINDOWS ACCOUNT FOR 50% OF THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR FACADES TO ALLOW THE BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH WINDOWS THAT ACCOUNT FOR 32% OF THE LENGTH OF ALL FACADES.

A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT WINDOWS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR 30% OF THE AREA OF STREET FACING FACADES TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH WINDOWS THAT ACCOUNT FOR 15% OF THE STREET FACING FACADES.

STAFF.

DOES NOTE THAT THE NORTHERN FACADE WAS USED FOR THIS CAL CALCULATION, A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT CANOPIES ACCOUNT FOR 25% OF ALL FACADES TO ALLOW THE BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH CANOPIES THAT ACCOUNT FOR 17% OF ALL FACADES.

AND FINALLY, A VARIANCE TO PROVIDE TILT WALL FACADES WITH NO MASON REFINISHES, AND TO ALLOW UP TO 2020 6% OF METAL PANELS WITH LESS THAN 20% REFLECTANCE ON THE NORTHERN FACADE.

THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL ESCROW THE FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE CONTINUATION OF A 30 FOOT ACCESS DRIVE CONNECTING THE HIGHWAY 20 EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE FUTURE.

WESTCHESTER

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PARKWAY.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

YOU DID.

UM, IT'S, WE PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER.

SO, UH, MS. JOHNSON IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ASHLEY JOHNSON WITH KIMBERLY HORN.

OUR SECOND SPEAKER CARD IS JONATHAN POWER WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

YES, SIR.

CAN YOU COME ON UP, PLEASE? SURE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

I'M NOT FROM TEXAS, I'M SORRY.

WISH I WERE OF THOSE.

UH, MY NAME IS JONATHAN POWER.

I'M FROM, UH, COLORADO.

SO 5,800 EAST PRINCETON AVENUE IN ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO.

WELL, WE WILL FORGIVE YOU FOR NOT BEING FROM TEXAS .

I LOVE TEXAS, BUT MY BROTHER LIVES HERE.

DOES THAT MATTER? YEAH, THAT, THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.

AND YOU'RE HERE, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I LISTENED TO YOUR COMMENTS AND, UH, YOU ALL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT JOB TRYING TO ENVISION WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD.

WHILE I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF, I THINK I'VE BUILT CLOSE TO 25 OF THESE SAME BUILDINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WOW.

SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE PLEASED.

I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND GO, WELL, THAT WAS, WHY ARE WE HEMMING IN HAW ABOUT DESIGN ISSUES WHEN THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE THAT? MM-HMM .

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTY YOU HAVE, BUT LET ME TRY TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AND SEE IF I CAN HELP.

UM, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT.

LET ME JUST START WITH THAT.

WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A LARGE COMPANY THAT HAS A VERY LARGE DESIGN TEAM, AND THEY HAVE A VERY, THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THEIR BRAND.

CAN YOU SAY THE BRAND? I CANNOT, I'M UNDER A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS, BUT, UH, I JUST THOUGHT I'D SNEAK IT IN THERE JUST IN CASE.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE CLOSER TO APPLE THAN WALGREENS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, .

UM, SO IN THEIR TERMS, IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO ADD, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE, BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, OR AT LEAST FROM THE STAFF, IS THAT NO MASONRY, NO BRICK.

BUT WHEN YOU START GLUING ON FAUX BRICK AND MASONRY ONTO A MODERN BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, YOU KNOW, APPENDIX F WAS WRITTEN FOR A SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT.

IT JUST WAS, AND I THINK STAFF WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, AND SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE THIS PROJECT LOOK LIKE A SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'LL JUST GO DOWN THROUGH THEM.

SO WHEN WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE, IT'S VARIANCES THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC AND DESIGN EXPERTISE THAT WENT IN.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, AGAIN, APPENDIX HALF WAS WRITTEN FOR A SHOPPING CENTER, CANOPIES LIGHTS EVEN.

WE GOT A POINT, I THINK FOR, UH, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE DATE.

UH, USB CHARGERS .

SO WHEN YOU TRY TO CODIFY DESIGN AND DESIGN MOVES, CODE DOESN'T MOVE AS FAST.

SO I JUST WOULD SAY KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, SO APPENDIX F REALLY WASN'T WRITTEN FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE TRIED TO MAKE IT FIT AS BEST WE COULD, MAKING IT STILL USEFUL.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN MOST MUNICIPALITIES.

SO I BUILT THESE FROM FLORIDA TO ALASKA.

WE HAVE A HIGH PARAPET TO HIDE ALL THE MECHANICAL UNITS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WORD MEANS? CAN THAT, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT WORD.

APPAREL, WHAT DO YOU CALL? SO PARAPET IS JUST A WALL THAT GOES UP LIKE THIS MM-HMM .

SO IT, IT ACTUALLY SCREENS EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE ROOF.

SO LIKE, IF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON THE ROOF, YOU WON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIKE A FAKE WALL.

THERE'S NO ROOF ON TOP OF THAT WALL.

SO YOU ACTUALLY WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE 27 FEET IS THE POINT BECAUSE IT LOOKS CLEAN.

YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THE VENTS, YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT.

SO FOR US TO SCREEN THOSE INDIVIDUALLY IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.

AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN COMMENTS WE GET FROM EVERY MUNICIPALITY.

SCREEN, SCREEN, SCREEN.

SO THAT'S WHY THE WALLS ARE THAT HIGH.

UM, SO YOU WANT THEM THAT HIGH WOULD BE MY CONTENTION.

I THINK DESIGN PROFESSIONALS WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

IF THERE ARE ANY ON THE BOARD, SHE CAN COME UP AND SPEAK IF SHE WANTS TO, IF YOU NEED TO.

SO THE WINDOWS, SO THAT'S THE HEIGHT VARIANCE.

THE WINDOWS, AGAIN, PINS WAS WRITTEN FOR A SHOPPING CENTER.

WE'RE NOT A SHOPPING CENTER.

SO THEY'RE THINKING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE STOREFRONT WINDOWS ALONG, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE STOREFRONTS WITH CANOPIES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

NOW I WILL SAY THE BUILDING IS BEAUTIFUL.

UH, I, ONE IN PARTICULAR, WE HAD THE SAME DEBATE OUTSIDE OF, UH, SUGARLAND NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, SUGARLAND IS VERY PROUD OF THEIR DESIGN, AND THEY ALSO WANTED BRICK AND, UH, STONE.

AND WE ENDED UP BUILDING IT WITHOUT BRICK AND STONE AND DESIGNED.

THE STAFF CAME UP TO ME AFTER THE PROJECT AND SAID, I'M SO GLAD WE DON'T HAVE BRICK AND STONE ON THAT BUILDING.

BECAUSE IT JUST LOOKS OUT OF PLACE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A MISTAKE.

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IF YOU TAKE A MODERN BUILDING AND GLUE BRICK ON IT, YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, IS THAT TRADITIONAL OR IS THAT MODERN? WELL, MY ONLY THING IS THAT MAKE SURE IT MATCHES THE AREA, WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE FLUME IS AND WHATEVER.

SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING AROUND THERE.

IS THERE REALLY? NO.

THIS IS A, A VACANT AREA AND TO THE POINT HE'S MAKING, AS I MENTIONED IT IN BRIEFING, YES, THIS IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS RETAIL, LIKE 1 61, BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, STEPH DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

BUT THE CODE IS THE CODE.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE STAFF IS LIKE, OH, WE WANT BRICK ON THIS BUILDING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND WE ARE FORCING HIM TO PUT BRICK ON IT.

THAT'S WHAT THE CODE STATES.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE VARIANCES AND VARIATIONS TO ALLOW HIM TO REQUEST THOSE VARIATIONS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

STAFF WAS ENCOURAGING.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR, THE APPENDIX APP IS OUR CODE.

YOU HAVE TO COMPLY.

UH, I TRIED TO WORK WITH OUR CLIENT WHO'S NOT EASY TO WORK WITH.

I MEAN, I, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE.

SO YOU, YOU SAID HOW MANY WERE THERE? I THINK THE LAST COUNT THERE WERE 493 OF THESE.

I'VE BUILT THESE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS.

THEY'VE GOT PROGRESSIVELY, IN MY OPINION, BETTER.

UM, SO EVERYONE THAT YOU LOOK AT MAY BE AN EARLIER ITERATION, BUT FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, THEY'VE ALL LOOKED THE SAME, THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, SO TO SPEAK.

AND INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE VARIANTS AND WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S NOT PERFECT ABOUT IT, LET'S FOCUS ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT IT.

NUMBER ONE IS IT WILL DRAW CUSTOMERS FROM 35 TO 40 MILES AWAY.

SO CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA COME HERE FOR ALL KINDS OF PRODUCTS, FUTURE PRODUCTS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOLAR RELATED.

COULD BE A ROBOT, IT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ALL KINDS OF THINGS HERE.

AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PARKING THINGS YOU SAID WE'RE OVER PARKED.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A PUSH TOWARDS, UH, DRIVERLESS CARS.

SO THOSE CARS NEED A, A PLACE TO GO AT NIGHT.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THAT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM OR NOT, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP YOU THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX OF MM-HMM .

WHY WE MIGHT NEED MORE PARKING LIKE THE JETSONS, RIGHT.

IN ANY EVENT.

UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THE PARKING IS THERE.

AGAIN, THERE'S REASONS FOR ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO APPENDIX F, THE HEIGHT VARIANCE, THE WINDOWS WE'RE NOT A SHOPPING CENTER, THE BRICK AND MASONRY.

IT JUST, I THINK IT, IT JUST, YOU'LL BE HAPPIER WITHOUT IT, I PROMISE YOU.

UH, WHEN YOU SEE IT, I'LL MEET YOU ON SITE, CHERYL, AND WE'LL SEE .

UM, AND THEN REGARDING THE ROAD, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, WESTCHESTER BOULEVARD.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THAT'S GONNA GET BUILT.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? IF EVER AS A DEVELOPER I HAVE, IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY HEAVY LEFT TO BUILD THAT ROAD.

AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE THE CITY AND COUNTY OF, UH, DALLAS AND A FLOODPLAIN, WHICH YOU COULDN'T BUILD A ROAD THROUGH EFFECTIVELY.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO FEMA AND 4 0 4, I MEAN, IT WOULD, IF YOU STARTED TODAY, YOU MIGHT BUILD THAT ROAD IN 15 YEARS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU'VE GOT A HUNDRED PLATTED LOTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT, AND I WANNA MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

SO HE IS, WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS WESTCHESTER PARKWAY, THE EAST WEST ROAD.

SO NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REFERRING TO WITH THE, UH, SORRY.

CAN YOU SHOW US THAT? YEAH.

SO I'M A VISUAL PERSON.

I KIND OF WANT TO SEE THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE BUILDING A ROAD TO CONNECT TO THIS ROAD THAT I, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, LET, LET'S LET HIM THAT I WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD.

THAT WORKS FINE.

OH, THIS WORK? OKAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S FINE.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S CONNECTING GREEN.

YOU SEE, DO YOU HAVE YOUR POINTER THING? YEAH.

LET'S SEE IF I CAN SEE THIS DASH LINE HERE GOING THROUGH MM-HMM .

DASH LINE THERE.

SO WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS RESERVING THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR WESTCHESTER PARKWAY TO BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WOULD THEN EXTEND PAST THEIR PARCEL OVER, THROUGH ACROSS WESTCLIFF, AND THEN RUN IN BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE NEW APARTMENTS THAT WERE BUILT THERE ON DECKMAN.

CONNECTING TO DECKMAN AND WESTCHESTER.

SO THAT'S THE ROAD HE'S REFERRING TO.

THAT HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO IT.

UM, THE OTHER ROAD THAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS THE NORTH SOUTH COLLECTOR THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THAT FUTURE ROAD.

RIGHT.

SO POINT OF COLLECTION.

SO THE, THE POINT HERE IS THAT THIS RED ROAD IS SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ROAD THAT WE WE'RE WANNA BUILD.

'CAUSE IT'S ACCESS TO OUR, TO OUR SITE, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE WANT IT AS FUNCTIONAL AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BUILD A ROAD TO NOWHERE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING IF YOU BUILT THE GREEN PORTION.

BUT I, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN NEVER SAY NEVER.

BUT WE'RE WILLING TO, TO ESCROW THAT MONEY IN THE EVENT THAT THAT ROAD IS EVER BUILT.

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BUT I WOULD BE, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT ROAD EVER GETS BUILT , .

AND THE REASON IS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH A HUNDRED PROPERTY OWNERS.

YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY OF, UH, DALLAS, AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FEDERAL FLOOD PLANE ISSUE, WHICH THEY SHOULD NEVER SAY NEVER.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

BUT SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BE BILL OF THE ROAD TO NOWHERE.

AND, AND IT DOES CREATE A BIT OF A MAINTENANCE ISSUE AND IT CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE WHEN PEOPLE PARK BACK THERE.

UM, I PROMISE YOU, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE HAPPY WHEN PEOPLE ARE MEETING ON THAT ROAD AT NIGHT.

UM, SO I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA AT THIS TIME.

TO BUILD IT.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT, SO AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS.

WE DIDN'T JUST SAY NO.

UM, SO IS THAT PRETTY MUCH IT AS FAR AS THE VARIANCES ARE CONCERNED? YEAH, I THINK SO.

IT, UM, AGAIN, I, I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE MM-HMM .

RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT A GAS STATION, A JACK IN THE BOX AND A BILLBOARD.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BRAND NEW APPLE LOOKING FACILITY WITH LOTS OF ACTIVITY MM-HMM .

SO, UH, THAT DRAWS PEOPLE IN TAX DOLLARS FROM WIDE RADIUS.

WE APPRECIATE THE DETAIL BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST FOR US, SO WE JUST WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO COMMISSIONER CHARA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND, UH, YOU CAN ANSWER OR IF YOU CAN, UM, HOW LONG HAS YOUR CLIENT BEEN IN BUSINESS? OOH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

THEY'RE PUBLICLY TRADED, SO.

THEY'RE ALL, UM, ALRIGHT, NEXT QUESTION.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY SINCE 2002 WOULD BE MY GUESS.

THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

UM, AND, UM, HOW MANY DEALERSHIPS LIKE THIS CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE FW AREA? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I, THEY DO A, A, A HUB AND SPOKE.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A MAIN HUB IN PLANO.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE, IT'S GOT QUITE A BIT MORE PARKING AND THEN THEY DO KIND OF A, I I DON'T WANNA GIVE AWAY TOO MUCH.

NO, NO, NO.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT.

PROPRIETARY INFORMATION.

THAT'S FINE.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONERS.

AND THEN, UM, THIS, THIS WOULD COVER ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, A 35 MINUTE, 35 MILE.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN HOW MANY DEALERSHIPS WOULD YOU SAY THERE ARE IN THE US? NOT NATIONWIDE.

THE LAST, HONESTLY THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THERE, THEY'RE OPENING, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY.

LAST TIME I CHECKED, I THINK THERE WAS 493, BUT OKAY.

IT'S PROBABLY, UH, MORE AND THEN THERE'S INTERNATIONAL LOCATIONS AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? LUCKY VAUGHN.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO ASK YOU, IT WAS MENTIONED, UM, IN OUR STAFF BRIEFING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY 40, UM, UM, JOBS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, ARE Y'ALL PLANNING TO MOVE 40 FAMILIES OR WOULD YOU BE HIRING PEOPLE FROM GRAND PRAIRIE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO OCCUPY SOME OF THOSE JOBS? I'M NOT ON THE OPERATION SIDE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE'LL ACTUALLY BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN 40 JOBS.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WORKING AT ONE TIME IN MULTIPLE SHIFTS.

UM, SO THERE'S REALLY A, A BUNCH OF COMPONENTS HERE.

THERE'S SALES AND DELIVERY, WHICH IS A SALES AND SERVICE AND, YOU KNOW, SALES AND DELIVERY FUNCTION.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE SERVICE FUNCTION.

THESE CARS ARE NOT LIKE ANY OTHER CAR YOU YOU'VE WORKED ON.

IF YOU GO INTO THE SHOP, YOU COULD EAT OFF THE FLOOR.

THEIR MISSION IS TO SAVE THE EARTH.

SO THEY DON'T USE CORROSIVE CHEMICALS.

THERE'S NOT OIL, THERE'S NOT ONE OUNCE OF OIL IN ANY OF THESE CARS.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY LIKE AN, AN IPAD AND A GOLF CART MM-HMM .

AND SO IT'S MORE LIKE COMPUTER REPAIR.

AND IF YOU LOOK ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK UH, AT THE DATA, IT'S SOMETHING STAGGERING.

LIKE 80% IS IS ELECTRONIC KIND OF COMPUTER REPAIR VERSUS AUTO REPAIR.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

I MEAN, IT'S, WE WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND YOU WANT, WE WANT YOU TO COME, BUT WE WOULD LIKE ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE AS MANY OF OUR GRAND PRAIRIE FOLKS CAN GET HIRED WOULD BE GREAT.

THEY HAVE A TRAINING, UH, PROGRAM.

SO PEOPLE FROM GRAND PRAIRIE WILL CERTAINLY BE ENCOURAGED.

I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, LIMIT IT TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

I'M SURE THAT'S NOT LEGAL, BUT, UH, BUT THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? AND I, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK YOUR CLIENT FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING GRAND PRAIRIE BRINGING E EV CHARGING BECAUSE EARLY 2000, UM, I HAD A CAR AND THERE WAS NO CHARGING STATION.

UM, HERE IN GRAND PRIX, I ACTUALLY HAD A TESLA AND I WOULD HAVE TO LIKE DRIVE ALL THE WAY BY LOVE FIELD JUST TO CHARGE MY CAR, OR I WOULD LITERALLY CHARGE IT IN MY OUTLET ON THE OUTSIDE .

SO THAT'S SLOW.

SO, UM, I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DRIVING THE ELECTRONIC ELECTRICAL CARS, YOU KNOW, IS GRATEFUL TO EVEN HAVE THE BUSINESS COMING TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

ARLINGTON AREA AND CAME DOWN HERE.

WELL, THEY, WE'D LIKE TO BE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

WE LOOKED, UH, FOR QUITE A LONG TIME IN THE

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AND SO WE, WE'VE WORKED HARD WITH STAFF AND, AND OUR, MY CLIENT'S INTERNAL DESIGN TEAM TO MAKE THIS SITE WORK.

AND, UM, I, I THINK I'D LOVE TO BUILD IT AND I THINK YOU'D BE VERY HAPPY WITH IT, QUITE HONESTLY.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER CHAARI? YEAH, SORRY, TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

UM, IF THIS WERE TO GET APPROVED, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BEFORE WE WOULD SEE IT GO UP? UH, IT WOULD BE QUICK.

SO WE, WE WOULD PURCHASE THE LAND.

UH, I MEAN IT'S REALLY A QUESTION FOR, I'M ONLY GETTING ASHLEY, CAN YOU COME UP UP AND GIVE US AN ANSWER, ASHLEY, I'M ONLY, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO THROW ASHLEY UNDER THE BUS AND HOW FAST SHE COULD DO THE DRAWINGS.

SO THAT'S REALLY LIKE, I UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW FAST SHE COULD DO THE CIVIL DRAWINGS AND GET THOSE CREW COME ON UP, COME ON UP.

BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, WE WOULD, WE'RE SHOOTING TO START CONSTRUCTION IN MARCH AND THEN IT WOULD TAKE US ABOUT A YEAR TO BUILD IT, SO THAT'S FAIR.

IS THAT RIGHT, ASHLEY? MM-HMM .

UH, YEAH, THAT'D BE A FAIR STATEMENT.

VERY GOOD.

THIS REALLY COMES DOWN, HONESTLY, THE LONG, SOME OF THE LONGEST PART OR THE HARDEST PART IS THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND, UH, STORM WATER AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON ALL THAT ANTICIPATION, HOPEFULLY OF AN APPROVAL.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT PART IS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF MY CONTROL, BUT THANKFULLY SHE IS LOCAL.

AND, UH, SHE, SHE COMPLETED ANOTHER PROJECT FOR US.

AND, UH, OKAY.

THAT ONE'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.

THIS ONE.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IS THAT IT? I THINK I HAVE ONE FOR ASHLEY.

UH, HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF YOUR COMPANY EVER WORKED IN THIS EV UM, CAPACITY IN THE PAST THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? YES.

UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE ONE WITH JONATHAN.

UM, THE DFW AREA.

AND THEN MY COMPANY ALSO WORKS ON EV SPECIFIC WORK AS WELL.

PERFECT.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.

WE JUST KIND WANTED TO, OF COURSE.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SEEING ALL THESE MM-HMM .

AND I'M VERY PROUD OF 'EM WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED.

AND I THINK YOU WILL BE AS WELL.

UM, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, I GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE GAS STATION AND THE JACK IN THE BOX AND THEN VISION SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND THERE AND I THINK YOU'LL BE OKAY.

SUPER EXCITED.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM.

NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

AND WE PROBABLY, THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION, THIS IS YOUR AREA COMMISSIONER, BUT WE, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF WE CAN GROUP 'EM TOGETHER.

IS THAT OKAY? WE'RE, I THINK WE CAN, JULIE, CAN WE GROUP 'EM TOGETHER OR DO WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM SEPARATELY? YOU'RE OKAY.

GROUPING THEM TOGETHER.

UM, JUST NOTE THAT, UM, IN YOUR MOTION, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT ON ITEM FIVE, STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED A CONDITION.