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[BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM]
BRIEFING.WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF AUGUST 18TH, 2025.
I'M DAVID BAKER, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THIS STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT FIVE THIRTY TWO.
THIS IS A PORTION, THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS, THE BOARD PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND PRESENTATION OF THE CASE.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.
AND THIS TIME IS NOT MEANT FOR ANYBODY ELSE BUT STAFF AND BOARD MEMBERS.
WHEN I ASK YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.
I BELIEVE I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYBODY ELSE.
AL KOKA GOT YOU RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT, EXCEPT THOSE NOT CALLED MEETING GUIDELINES.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOUR SPEAK AND TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE YOU IS HEARD AND THE CA FOR EACH CASE AND WE ARE BEING RECORDED.
SO THAT TH THAT YOUR VOICE WOULD BE RECORDED ONTO THE UH, TAPE.
BEFORE I PRESENT THE CASE, I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME OUR NO MEMBERS.
WE HAVE MS. DEBBIE JOHNSTON, WE HAVE SHE BRETT HACKETT, AND WE HAVE MR. CHRISTOPHER DEWOLF.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
ALSO, ANOTHER LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
IF YOU GUYS COULD RESPOND TO MONICA ESPINOZA'S EMAIL REGARDING CLOTHING ORDERS BY SEPTEMBER 20TH, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
OKAY, SO ITEM NUMBER TWO, ZBA 2 5 0 6 0 0 4 4 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1738 GLEN KEY STREET.
AS I SAID, THE PROJECT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FRONT YARD CARPORT, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
AND WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST A VARIANCE TO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE PROPOSED, I'M SORRY AL NOR CAN I HAVE A COPY? I DON'T, I DIDN'T GET THE REST OF THE PACKET YET.
I JUST NEED SOMETHING TO MAKE SOME NOTES ON.
SO OUR PROPOSED CARPORT IS 200 SQUARE FEET AND IT IS DETACHED.
IT MEETS ALL OF OUR OTHER ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN AN 800 FOOT BUFFER.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER CARPORTS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE SHOWN IN RED ON THE SCREEN REGARDING THE VARIANCE TO DECRE DECREASE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE ARTICLE SIX REQUIREMENT IS THREE FEET AND OUR APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ZERO FEET.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL BE PLACED RIGHT OVER THAT EXISTING PAVEMENT.
WE SENT 36 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RETURNED, OPPOSED, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY LEFT? NO, THANK YOU.
WAS THAT, OH, WE DO HAVE A QUESTION HERE.
SO WITH A ZERO LOT LINE, UM, IS THIS THE POINT WHERE WE ASK A QUESTION OF WHERE DOES THE WATER GO OR IS THAT IN OPEN? YOU CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
I THINK WE, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE ASKED IT DURING THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
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THANK YOU.ITEM NUMBER THREE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 4 9 IS A REQUEST FOR A FENCE HEIGHT INCREASE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW.
IT IS LOCATED AT 7 0 2 CHIPPEWA LANE.
THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO INCREASE FROM 36 INCHES IF IT IS A SOLID FENCE, OR 48 INCHES IF IT IS A TRANSPARENT FENCE TO A SIX FOOT SOLID CEDAR FENCE.
SO ON THE PLAN TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE IN BLUE.
THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IN ORANGE IS ACTUALLY THE SUBDIVISION SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INSTALL A SIX FOOT SOLID CEDAR FENCE WHERE THE RED LINE IS.
SO FROM THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOUSE TO THE BACK END OF THE EXISTING MASONRY COLUMN, THERE IS A BUILDING PERMIT IN PLACE FOR THIS.
AND THERE IS THE LOCATION THAT YOU WILL, YOU WILL SEE THE FENCE IF YOU APPROVE THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
JUST TO NOTE THAT THAT, UH, BRICK MASON RE FENCE IS SIX FEET, SO IT'LL MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THAT.
WE SENT 51 NOTICES, ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
WE FEEL THAT IT COULD INHERENTLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD THIS FENCE, WHICH THE PD IS SPECIFICALLY RESTRICTING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YES.
UH, DID THE, UH, HOA APPROVE NOT APPROVE? UM, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY APPROVAL LETTER OR DISAPPROVAL LETTER FROM THE HOAI BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THAT, I, I DO NOT KNOW.
OUR APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE THIS EVENING THOUGH.
UM, SINCE I'M NEW HERE, WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE IN THE FIRST CASE OF THE, THE BO OF THE CITY SAYING IT'S COOL AND THIS ONE'S SAYING NOT COOL.
UM, TYPICALLY IN CASES WHERE WE HAVE CARPORTS OR GARAGE CONVERSIONS, WE DO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE ARE CLOSE NEARBY, UM, CARPORTS OR GARAGE CONVERSIONS.
WE DO HAVE AN ADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT WE CAN APPROVE THESE IF THEY FALL WITHIN AN 800 FOOT BUFFER OF ANOTHER CARPORT OR 300 FEET OF ANOTHER GARAGE CONVERSION.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE SEE CARPORT APPLICATIONS OR GARAGE CONVERSIONS, TYPICALLY WE'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THOSE IF THEY'RE GENERALLY LOCATED IN A SIMILAR AREA TO OTHER SIMILAR PROJECTS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE'VE NOT SEEN A SIX FOOT FENCE AND THEREFORE BASED ON THE WAY YOU JUST DESCRIBED THE FIRST SCENARIO, SECOND SCENARIO IS LIKE, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING AROUND IT LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU THINK THAT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE THINK THAT IT COULD.
SO IN LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, THERE'S ALREADY A FENCE THERE.
IT'S JUST FURTHER BEHIND, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, AND THAT PICTURE MM-HMM
BOARD MEMBER, THE, THE FENCE IS COMING FROM THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND CONNECTING TO TO THE OKAY.
TO THE MASONRY WALL THERE ON THE BARDEN SIDE.
AND THEY'RE WANTING TO CONNECT TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO THAT MASONRY WALL? YES, MA'AM.
CAN YOU GO? YEAH, UH, UH, QUESTION.
UM, SO THEY JUST WANNA ADD, THEY, THEY JUST WANNA ADD ADDITIONAL WALL, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY WANNA ADD A FENCE WHERE THAT RED LINE IS TO CONNECT TO AN EXISTING MASONRY WALL.
THAT IS, I GUESS PART OF A QUESTION COULD BE, IS THERE AN EXISTING FENCE ALREADY THERE WHERE THE RED LINE IS THERE? NOT NO, NO, NO, NO.
FROM THE HOUSE ACROSS, IS THERE AN EXISTING TO THE FENCE ACROSS, IS THERE AN EXISTING FENCE NOW IT IS LOCATED FROM THE SIDE WALL KIND OF GOING HORIZONTALLY TOWARD THE, UH, CORRECT INDICATOR TO THE SUBDIVISION WALL.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE ENCLOSING IT STRAIGHT TOWARD THE, UM,
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RIGHT.SO IT'S FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE STRAIGHT ACROSS.
TYPICALLY WE DON'T ALLOW WALLS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES, BUT THEY WANNA PUT ONE.
SO WE'RE SAYING TYPICALLY, SO THEY'RE WANT TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION 90 DEGREES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR INTERNAL, UH, SIDE YARD, UM, ON UPON THE PORTION THAT'S TYPICALLY A FRONT YARD.
I THINK, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR.
SO THEY'LL PROBABLY BE HERE DURING OPEN, UH, THE REGULAR SESSION.
'CAUSE I, I'M WONDERING IF THEY WANNA DO THIS BECAUSE OF EXTRA PRIVACY OR EXTRA SECURITY BECAUSE IT IS AT A CORNER, SO USUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS.
WELL, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THAT CORNER CUT OFF.
BUT I THINK THAT CORNER'S ALREADY CUT OFF.
BUT THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO ADD A LITTLE MORE TO THE BACKYARD.
WE CAN ASK THAT DURING, DURING, DURING THE HEARING.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULD, I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THE HOMEOWNER IF THEY'RE HERE, UM, IS THE REQUEST TO REPLACE THE EXISTING FENCE OR ARE THEY WANTING TO PUT THE, THE NEW FENCE IN ADDITION TO THE FENCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE? THE WOODEN FENCE? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, THE REASON STAFF'S NOT GONNA SUPPORT THAT IS BECAUSE IT'LL SET PRECEDENT FOR A FRONT YARD, SIX FOOT FENCE VERSUS A THREE FOOT FENCE, WHICH YOU DON'T WANNA START BECAUSE IT COULD BE EVENTUALLY A SIDE.
YOU DON'T WANT A SIX FOOT FENCE IN THEIR FRONT YARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
OKAY, ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 0 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND A VARIANCE FOR FRONT YARD CARPORT.
THE PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW AND OUR ADDRESS IS THREE 10 WEST CORAL WAY.
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, UH, VARIANCE TO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION SHOWN IN RED OF THE CARPORT ARE ARTICLE SIX REQUIREMENT IS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND OUR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A THREE FOOT SETBACK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 800 FOOT BUFFER.
YOU CAN SEE OTHER LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORTS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOWN IN RED.
AND AGAIN, THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FROM THE REQUIRED FIVE FEET TO THE REQUESTED THREE FEET.
WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, THREE POSITIONS IN FAVOR.
ONE FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S ADDRESS, TWO AT 3 0 6 WEST CORAL WAY AND THREE 17 WEST CORAL WAY.
WE SENT A TOTAL OF 45 NOTICES AND ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.
STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT? NO.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 2 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION.
OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW AND LOCATED AT 6 4 6 LYNN DRIVE.
SO WITH SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS FOR GARAGE CONVERSIONS, WE ARE REQUIRING THAT THEY PROVIDE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE GARAGE ON THE LEFT IN YELLOW, AND THEN THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE ENCLOSED GARAGE ON YOUR RIGHT.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE SENT 46 NOTICES, ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, BACK TO THE, UH, FLOOR PLAN.
SO YOU, AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT YOU MENTIONED TWO SPACES, TWO PARKING SPACES.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANT OF THE TWO PARKING SPACES AND WHERE ARE THEY PLEASE? SO, SO WE REQUIRE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
TYPICALLY, THESE ARE IN GARAGES.
AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY REQUESTS TO CONVERT THE GARAGE TO LIVING AREA, WE STILL WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
MOST OF THE TIME OUR APPLICANTS ARE PROVIDING THAT VIA THEIR DRIVEWAY.
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THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO NON TANDEM SPACES.SO THEY ARE STILL PROVIDING THE OFF STREET REQUIRED PARKING.
AND, AND, AND MIND YOU, IT'S NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT IF FOR INSTANCE, UH, THEY, THEY HAD THIS AND IT EXTENDED OUT AND THEN IT WOULD BLOCK THE SIDEWALK IF THEY PARKED, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, THE ABSOLUTELY LOOKS LIKE FOUR SPOTS ACTUALLY.
YEAH, I'M SAYING NOT IN THIS CASE.
AND, AND THEN, THEN WHAT SHE DID IS THAT THEY HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT.
MY NAME IS SALVADOR AND I'LL BE PRESENTING.
I'LL BE PRESENTING THE REST OF YOUR CASES TONIGHT.
SO STARTING OFF, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FIVE DASH SEVEN DASH 0 53.
WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT 3 2 1 WEST PHILLIPS COURT.
THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO, UH, REQUEST A GARAGE CONVERSION OF ABOUT 220 SQUARE FEET.
LIKE AARON JUST MENTIONED, WE DO REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES AND THEY ARE PROVIDING AMPLE PARKING.
SO ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A EXISTING FLOOR PLAN AND THEN A PROPOSED, REALLY, REALLY THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS, UM, THE GARAGE CONVERSION.
SO THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THERE WAS, THERE IS A GARAGE AND THEY'RE WANTING TO TURN IT INTO A STORAGE AREA AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA ADD A SMALL WINDOW AS WELL.
AND THIS IS KIND OF A STREET VIEW OF THAT EXISTING GARAGE AND HOME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY DO HAVE THOSE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 45 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
DOES NOT OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT? THANK YOU.
MOVING ON, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ZBA TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 5 4.
A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST FOR REFERRING YARD CARPORT LOCATED AT 3 7 4 6 OAK MEADOW DRIVE.
AND AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS A CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FRONT YARD CARPORT AND AS WELL AS TO, UH, EXPAND THE MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE.
SO THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF THAT PROPOSAL.
UM, SOMETHING PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS CASE IS THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING CARPORT THERE.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT, UH, IS WANTING TO EXPAND THAT CARPORT AND UH, BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A SLIGHTLY LARGER ONE.
THE CURRENT ONE IS ABOUT 120 SQUARE FEET, BUT HE IS REQUESTING TO MAKE A, TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A, A SLIGHTLY LARGER ONE THERE OF A 12 FEET AND WIDTH, 20 FEET IN DEPTH AND ABOUT 10 FEET TALL.
AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT THAT THAT PROPERTY LIES IN DOES LIMIT THE LOT COVERAGE TO 30% AND HE'S REQUESTING TO UP THAT TO 55%.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT REQUEST IS BECAUSE IF, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN HERE, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE REAR AS WELL AS A PATIO.
AND SO THAT BRINGS, BRINGS HIM OVER THAT, UH, ALLOWED 30% LOCK COVERAGE.
AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST, HE WILL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY, UH, KEEP THAT UH, EXISTING CARDBOARDS AND LEGAL STATUS, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE ONE HE'S WANTING TO BUILD.
AND THERE, THERE IS, UH, ONE MORE LEGALLY, UH, PERMITTED CARPORT WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, BECAUSE HE'S EXCEEDING OUR LAW COVERAGE, UM, WE COULD NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THIS ONE.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED? THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, SO THE, UH, THIS MAXIMUM COVERAGE, WHAT, EXPLAIN THAT, UH, IN UH, DIFFERENT
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TERMS PLEASE.SO LET ME JUST SCROLL BACK HERE.
UM, THIS IS KIND OF AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE LOTS.
TYPICALLY, UM, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS SPECIFIC ZONING REGULATIONS.
ONE OF THEM BEING THAT YOU CAN ONLY COVER THE LOTS UP TO 30% IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, MEANING, YOU KNOW, ROOFS, UM, OR SOMETHING LIKE WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TODAY, WHICH IS A CARPORT.
UM, SO WHEN WE DO, UH, A REVIEW OF THESE PLANTS OR THIS CASE, UM, WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS PERSON OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY HAS THEIR MAIN STRUCTURE.
THEIR HOME, WHICH IS ABOUT 1600 SQUARE FEET, UM, OR SORRY, 2100 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE REAR STRUCTURE WAS ABOUT 643 SQUARE FEET AND THAT PROPOSED CARPORT IS ABOUT ABOUT 240 SQUARE FEET.
SO THEIR TOTAL LOT MEASURES ABOUT 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO WITH THAT MATH COMBINED, THEY'RE EXCEEDING THAT ALLOWED 30%, UM, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING UP TO 55%.
SO THE HOUSE ITSELF IS PART OF THAT 30%? YES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CARPORTS AROUND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AERIAL VIEW AND I DIDN'T SEE, YES, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.
UM, BUT THERE IS, SO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BLUE DOT THERE IS A LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORTS AND IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
IF YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE WHERE MY MOUSE IS, I DO.
UM, SO IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.
IN FACT IT IS WITHIN 300 OR EXCUSE ME, 800 FEET.
UM, AND THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME? YES, IT IS A PROPOSED FRONT YARD.
CARDBOARD? NO, THE OTHER ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE, I AM NOT SURE.
I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT IT, BUT I WOULD ASSUME SO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY UH, AXIS THAT I CAN SEE FROM THE REAR THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NEXT.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH FIVE FIVE, SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT AT 2325 LANCASTER DRIVE.
THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED UNDER PD 82.
AND AGAIN THAT PROPOSAL IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FRONT YARD CARPORT AND THE FRONT SETBACK, UH, TO BE UM, TO BE ALLOWED TO GO FROM 20 FEET.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE REASONING FOR THE REQUEST RIGHT AFTER I SHOW YOU THIS IMAGE OF THE HOME AS IS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE THEIR DRIVEWAY THERE.
THEY HAVE THEIR TWO DOOR GARAGE.
THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO PLACE THAT PROPOSED CARPORT.
AND THIS SIDE PLAN SHOWS, UH, THE PROPOSED AREA WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
SO THIS PD RESTRICTS, UM, THE FRONT SETBACK TO BE 20 FEET.
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD THAT CARPORT, THEY WOULD NEED TO MOVE IT DOWN TO 13 FEET TO BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THAT CARPORT SO THEY WOULD NOT BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT SETBACK.
UM, A SETBACK IS BASICALLY A LINE, IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHERE I'M SHOWING THE MOUSE THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT BUILD PAST THIS POINTS.
AND SO THEY'RE WANTING TO MOVE THIS LINE FURTHER UP INTO THE PROPERTY LINE AND ALLOW TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS CARPORT.
AND SO IT IS GONNA BE A 198 SQUARE FOOT CARPORT.
AND THE FRONT YARD, IT'S ABOUT 18 FEET WIDE, 11 FEET DEEP AND ABOUT EIGHT FEET TALL.
IN THIS REGARD, 54 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE WAS RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
ARE THERE OTHER, OTHER CARPORTS IN THE AREA? NO, NOT AT, NOT AT ALL.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT CHRISTOPHER? YEAH, I SEEM LIKE THE QUESTION GUY TONIGHT.
UM, OKAY, SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A LOT OF CARPORTS.
IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON WHAT CAN BE PARKED UNDER A PARKED CARPORT? I THINK CERTAIN PDS DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND UM, I'VE SEEN THAT LANGUAGE BEFORE.
I THINK OUR LANGUAGE FOR THE UDC AND LOOKING AT THIS PD DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
BUT JUNE, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME.
SO TYPICALLY CARPORT WE REQUIRE TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY CONNECTED TO THAT 'CAUSE IT'S PURPOSE IS TO PARK A VEHICLE.
BUT AS SALVADOR HAS MENTIONED, IT DOES NOT TYP TYPICALLY RESTRICT CERTAIN, UM, TYPE OF VEHICLES.
SO WE'VE SEEN CARPORT BEING USED AS A COVERING FOR BOATS AND RVS AND OTHER BIGGER VEHICLES THAT'S ALLOWED TO BE PARKED ON A PROPERTY.
TYPICALLY RVS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON, UM, PERSONAL PROPERTY UNLESS THEY'RE JUST PARKING IT.
SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL BUILD BIGGER CARPORTS
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IN THEIR BACKYARD TO STORE RV'S UNDER AT TIMES.SO RV'S IS THE ONLY THING YOU REALLY RESTRICT CITYWIDE RV IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LIVE OUT OF IT, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK THAT ON YOUR, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO PARK IT AT A MOBILE HOME PARK.
AND THIS ONE'S ONLY EIGHT FOOT TALL, SO RIGHT.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAVE A GREAT BEING TALL ALL YOU KNOW HARVEY OR MORE LIKELY.
SO, AND, AND I WILL ADD TIFFANY BULL, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
THERE ARE OTHER CODE CODE REGULATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DEAL WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT, SO THERE ARE VARIOUS DIFFERENT CODE PROVISIONS THAT MAY IMPACT HOW A CARPORT IS USED, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF CONSIDERATION OF THE BOARD BECAUSE THE BOARD IS ONLY LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECT AND THE LAND USE AND THOSE GUIDELINES.
ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, DAVID, DEBBIE, DAVID, IS THIS THE ONE THAT HAD THE ONE, UH, PERSON THAT WAS OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE HE TALKED ABOUT DEED RESTRICTION? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
SO IS THERE A DEED RESTRICTION ON THIS PROPERTY FOR THAT? SO STEPH DID DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIND IF THERE WAS ANY AND WE COULD NOT FIND ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS.
UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ISN'T, AND WE CAN CLARIFY DURING THE, THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE VARIANCE WILL ONLY BE APPLIED TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE PD.
UM, AND IT WILL NOT APPLY TO ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS.
AND, AND JUST FOR CLARITY ON THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, UM, THE CITY CANNOT LEGALLY ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTIONS, THAT IS A PRIVATE MATTER THAT IS ENFORCED BETWEEN THEM.
THE CITY CAN ENFORCE OUR OWN REGULATIONS AND STATE LAW, BUT WE CANNOT ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HANDLED SEPARATE AND APART FROM ANY CITY ACTION.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU RENDER YOUR DECISION IF YOU SO DESIRE.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL READ QUESTION.
AND YOU DID SAY THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THIS SETS A PRECEDENT HERE.
THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS FROM THE NEIGHBORS? YES, THERE WAS ONE OPPOSITION, WHICH WAS WHAT WAS JUST MENTIONED.
AGAIN, I, I WILL READ THESE OUT LOUD DURING THE, UH, ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE RECORD AND STAFF HAD A STAFF FEEL ABOUT THIS.
STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NEXT? MOVING ON.
AND IF I SKIP AN ITEM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA WITH ME HERE, BUT, UH, I, I AM NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
THIS IS EBA TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 5 6 VARIANCE FOR YOUR REAR YARD SETBACK FOR 8 4 1 CHAP DRIVE.
SO THIS LIES WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 72, PD 1 72.
AND THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS BECAUSE THEY ARE OR THEY HAVE BUILT A REAR YARD CARPORT.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY ARE IN VIOLATION CURRENTLY OF THE EXISTING REAR YARD SETBACK.
AND I WILL SHOW YOU, UH, A SIDE PLAN HERE ON SCREEN THAT SHOWS WHERE THAT CARPORT IS LOCATED.
SO THIS PROPERTY, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE, HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS.
UH, THE FRONT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DOOR IS, THE MAIN DOOR.
HOWEVER, THEIR DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED IN THE REAR IN AN ALLEY.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, UM, THEY ARE HAVING TO ABIDE BY THE REAR SETBACK, UM, TO BUILD THAT CARPORT AND TO BE IN, IN, IN, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THAT CARPORT.
UM, SO THE PD REQUIRES 20 FEET AND THEY'RE ASKING TO RESID REDUCE IT DOWN TO ZERO FEET TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 54 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO RETURN IN FAVOR OF ZERO RETURN TO POST AND THERE IS AN HOA WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY WITH THIS ITEM, THEY'RE NOT SEEKING TO GET APPROVAL TO BUILD A CARPORT.
INSTEAD WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING APPROVAL ON IS SIMPLY THE VARIANCE FOR THE REAR SETBACK IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, I SEE ITEM 10 IS TO BE TABLED DURING THE MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER 11 ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 8 VARIANCES FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
OUR PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW
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AND ADDRESSED AS 24 31 AUGUSTA LANE.THE PROJECT IS THE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW STORAGE BUILDING.
THERE ARE THREE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED, ONE TO THE REAR YARD SETBACK, ONE TO THE WALL HEIGHT FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, AND A VARIANCE TO THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THE PROPOSED STORAGE UNIT IS GOING TO BE 960 SQUARE FEET, 24 FEET WIDE, 40 FEET DEEP, AND 17 FEET HIGH.
THE FIRST VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
THE REQUIREMENT IN ARTICLE SIX IS 10 FEET.
UM, THE PROPOSED SETBACK IS EIGHT FEET TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE WALL HEIGHT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
ARTICLE SIX REQUIRES A 12 FEET MAXIMUM.
OUR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 14 FEET AND THEN A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE AREA FOR ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
CHRISTOPHER, I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU.
THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SORT OF LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
OUR UDC REQUIRES THAT ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES LOCATED ON A PROPERTY DO NOT EXCEED 50% OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE FOR LOTS THAT ARE A HALF ACRE OR LESS.
IN THIS CASE, OUR LOT IS HALF ACRE OR LESS.
THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, UH, DIVIDED BY TWO IS 934 SQUARE FEET ALLOWED AND WE ARE REQUESTING 960 SQUARE FEET.
HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS SHOWING THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE AND NICE RENDERING.
WE SENT 27 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, ALRIGHT, THIS CONCLUDES THE STAFF BRIEFING.
IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO TAKE A REALLY QUICK BREAK, MAKE IT REALLY FAST.
AND IF YOU DON'T THEN WE WILL GET STARTED.
ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS READY? ALL RIGHT,
[Call to Order]
WE'LL GET START HERE AT THE REGULAR MEETING.IT'S UH, 6 0 7 AND WELCOME BACK TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPEALS MEETING, UH, AUGUST 18TH, 2025.
IT'S NOT ON THIS PART, BUT CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD AND ADJUSTMENT.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED ORDER AT 6 0 6 0 8.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPERLY APP APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL.
CONSIDER VARIANCES EXCEPTIONS APPEALS AND PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWED A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 11 0 0 9 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
CODE CON CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICATION APPLICANT ON ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION.
THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON EACH ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW REMEMBER WHAT I JUST SAID, IT TAKES SEVEN, NOT SIX, SEVEN.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT SEEING OR YOU DON'T THINK, OR YOU DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GO YOUR WAY, YOU DO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO SAY, HEY, I WANNA PUT THIS ON HOLD AND UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT ANOTHER TIME OR ON TO TABLE IT.
SO JUST TO PUT THAT IN YOUR MIND THAT IF, UH, SOMETHING STAFF DOESN'T LIE, WANNA PROVE OR WHATEVER YOU DO HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, LET TALK TO CITY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS AND MOVE IT TO ANOTHER TOWN.
SO ANYWAY, SO LET'S GET ON WITH IT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ROLL CALL AND GET ON WITH THE MEETING.
I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS CONFIRMED PRESENT ON THE QUA.
AND WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.
AND WE GOT, UH, MELINDA ROGERS HERE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE, UH, NINE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
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WOULD YOU, UH, LEAD OUR INVOCATION NOW? YES.DAVID, WOULD YOU BOW YOUR HEADS PLEASE? DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SERVE OUR CITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STAFF THAT, UH, WORK SO HARD ON ALL OF THESE CASES.
LORD, LORD, UM, THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOMS, OUR COUNTRY AND OUR CITY, AND HELP US TO DO OUR BEST LORD AND CHRIST.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN.
EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARDS, THAT'S ONE OF THESE RIGHT HERE.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, THEY HAVE SOME IN THE BACK WILL HAVE.
UM, AND THEY'LL BRING 'EM TO ME.
UH, AND THEY WE'LL HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO SPEAK ON THAT.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING CALLED CITIZENS COMMENTS,
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.OUR FIRST ACTION OF THE NIGHT WILL BE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JULY 21ST, 2025.
IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? ANYBODY ON THE RIGHT LEFT? OKAY.
UM, IN THAT CASE, I WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 21ST, 2025.
I HAVE A MOTION BY KIMBERLY AND, AND, AND SECOND BY MR. LANGSTON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR, UH, OKAY THEN ZERO PUBLIC HEARINGS,
[2. ZBA-25-06-0044 (Council District 3) – Special exception for a front yard carport and a variance to the side yard setback for an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1738 Glen Key St., legally described as Lot 29, Block 9, Inglewood Park Addition First Installment, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three District]
PUBLIC HEARING OF THIS CASE LISTED AGENDA.SO, UH, ACTUALLY I HAVE NINE, BUT 10 WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED ON IS THE FIRST CASE.
SO STAFF, PLEASE PRESENT ITEM NUMBER TWO ZBA 25 0 6 0 0 4 4 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST AND A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW AND LOCATED AT 1738 GLEN KEY STREET.
THE PROJECT, AS I SAID, IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FRONT YARD CARPORT.
THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL BE 200 SQUARE FEET, 20 FEET WIDE, 20 FEET DEEP, AND SEVEN FEET HIGH.
IT MEETS ALL OTHER ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN AN 800 FOOT BUFFER.
THERE ARE HOWEVER OTHER CARPORTS LOCATED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN IN RED THE REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO DECREASE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
OUR ARTICLE SIX REQUIREMENT IS THREE FEET.
OUR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ZERO FEET.
THE CARPORT WILL BE METAL AND PAINTED TO MATCH THE HOUSE COLOR AND P PLACED OVER AN EXISTING PAVED DRIVEWAY.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, 36 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT.
NOW THEN, DO WE HAVE MR. UH, ALMA MIRROR HERE TONIGHT? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN UH, FAVOR OF THIS? IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S WANTING TO SPEAK AND OPPOSED TO THIS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, I'LL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. BAKER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND CLOSE CASE NUMBER ZBA 2 5 0 6 0 0 4 4 COUNCIL DISTRICT.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR YOUR HAND SAY AYE.
[3. ZBA-25-07-0049 (Council District 2) – Variance to increase the maximum height allowed for a fence permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 702 Chippewa Ln., legally described as Lot 21, Block 35, Westchester Addition IV Installment 1, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-172]
OKAY.ITEM NUMBER THREE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 4 9
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IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE FENCE HEIGHT.OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 0 2 CHIPPEWA AND SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN IN YELLOW THE VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE FENCE HEIGHT FROM A MAXIMUM OF 36 INCHES IF THE FENCE IS A SOLID FENCE OR 48 INCHES IF IT IS TRANSPARENT TO A SIX FOOT SOLID CEDAR FENCE.
SO THE PICTURE ON YOUR SCREEN IS SHOWING THE HOUSE FOOTPRINT IN BLUE, AN EXISTING SIX FOOT MASONRY SUBDIVISION WALL SHOWN IN ORANGE.
AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE APPLICANT'S SIX FOOT SOLID CEDAR FENCE SHOWN IN RED.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, THE AREA THAT THE PROPOSED FENCE WILL GO FROM THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOUSE AND CONNECT TO THE BACK OF THE EXISTING SIX FOOT COLUMN.
WE SENT 51 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT, UM, WOULD BE SETTING PRECEDENT FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE, UM, IN THE FRONT YARDS, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.
AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SIX FOOT FENCES IN FRONT YARDS IN THAT AREA? NONE THAT STAFF FOUND A VARIANCE OR A BUILDING PERMIT FOR.
IS THE, IS THE OWNER HERE? YES, MA'AM.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE HAVE A, UH, MR. CARLOS ROBLES YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS.
PLEASE COME DOWN AND TELL US YOUR IN THE GO RECORD ON THE MIC, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.
I LIVE HERE IN 7 0 2 CHIP LANE AND, UH, I'M REQUESTING, UH, THIS VARIANCE, UH, I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF OTHER ADDRESSES DURING MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS SIMILAR, UH, SETUP AS MINE.
I AM IN A CORNER LOT AND THE REASON FOR ME TO, UH, REQUEST NOT ONLY THE, THE, THE HEIGHT, UH, AND THAT I, I'M MOVING THE, THE ACTUAL FENCE, UH, TO CLOSE, UH, THAT AREA IS BECAUSE I DO HAVE A POLE IN THE BACK, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURE.
AND I DON'T THINK A FOUR FEET FENCE WILL, I KNOW ANYBODY CAN JUMP A SIX FEET, EIGHT FEET, BUT I THINK A SIX FEET WILL BE MORE APPROPRIATE, APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO HAVE GIVEN THE FACT THAT I DO HAVE A POLE.
AND I DON'T WANT ANY OF THE KIDS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO JUMP IN AND BEING, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DEATHS.
UM, I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT I'VE GOT TO KNOW, UH, KNOWN A LOT OF, UH, MY NEIGHBORS AND I KNOW THEY KNOW THE PAST OWNERS.
SO EVEN WITH ME SPEAKING TO THEM, THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT I DO HAVE A POOL IN THE BACK.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS ALREADY KNOW THAT.
AND IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF THE HOUSES ON THAT BLOCK, UH, NO ONE HAS A POOL AROUND THERE.
THAT'S WHEN I WANT BUILD THE, THE FENCE TO BE AT LEAST SIX FEET, UM, OF HEIGHT.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT MATCHES ALREADY THE EXISTING FENCE THAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOU OF THE HOME.
WELL, I I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
YOU HAVE A SIX FOOT FENCE THAT GOES STRAIGHT ACROSS RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR EXISTING HOME RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? UH, YES.
IT WAS ONE OF 'EM THAT HONESTLY, UM, NEEDED SOME WORK DONE.
UH, THE REASON WHY I, I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST BUILD A FENCE.
I DID, UM, UH, DID SOME CHANGES ON ON THE OTHER AREA.
'CAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS NOT LOOKING VERY GREAT WHEN I GOT THE HOME FIVE YEARS AGO.
UM, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT DOES IT, IT HAD, IT DID HAVE A LOT OF TREES OUT THERE.
AND EVERY TIME WE COME AROUND, 'CAUSE IT'S VERY DARK AT NIGHT, THE WAY IT IS SET UP, UM, AT NIGHT IS VERY, VERY DARK.
AND I, MY, MY, UH, WIFE AND COUPLE, MY, MY DAUGHTERS HAVE ENCOUNTERED ALREADY RACCOONS AND COUPLE OF ANIMALS STEPPING OUT OF THE YARD.
THAT'S WHY I WANNA AVOID ALL THAT AS WELL.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE WITHOUT US STEPPING OUT OF THE HOUSE.
AND WITH THE FENCE BILLED LIKE THAT, I MEAN THAT WILL KIND OF, UM, PRETTY MUCH SE SECURE THAT AREA FOR IT, FOR IT TO BE SAFE FOR US TO ACTUALLY STEP OUTSIDE AT NIGHT AND WITHOUT SOMETHING ATTACKING MY, MY WIFE, JUST LIKE YOU DID LAST TIME.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT OR THE BACK? THE FRONT.
IT'S, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS.
'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT STREET IT'S, I DON'T
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KNOW IF IT IF IT NEEDS MORE LIGHT OR WHAT'S GOING ON.IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE DARKEST STREETS I'VE SEEN ON MY AREA MORE THAN WELCOME TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE AND CHECK THAT OUT AFTER DARK.
UM, I DID FIX UP THE LIGHTS THAT WERE PUT ON MY FRONT FRONT YARD AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING.
BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT SIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THAT SIDE IS LIKE LEFT UNATTENDED FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR IT'S BEING UNATTENDED FOR SO MANY TIMES.
SO I WANT TO GO, GO AHEAD AND BE ABLE TO FIX THAT AND MAKE IT LOOK NICE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT CRYSTAL? YES.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A FENCE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT ALREADY PROTECTS THE POOL, RIGHT? UH, AND YOU GOT A SIX FOOT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A FENCE, UH, WHERE THE WORD HOUSE IS AND THEN SOMETHING GOING OUT WITH AN ARROW.
ISN'T THAT A FENCE RIGHT THERE? YES IT IS, SIR.
SO WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN THAT THIS ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO KEEP PEOPLE OUTTA YOUR POOL? IT'S NOT VISIBLE FOR ME.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT VISIBLE FOR, FOR US LIKE ANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS.
IF WE WERE, IF WE'RE INSIDE THE HOUSE, IT'S, IT IS NOT VISIBLE.
LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOMEBODY STANDING THERE AT NIGHT LAST TIME THAT MY WIFE WENT INTO AND GOT THE MAILBOX.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOMEBODY STANDING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A NEIGHBOR, I JUST HAD TO STEP OUTSIDE 'CAUSE SHE TOLD ME.
AND THERE WAS SOMEBODY STEPPING RIGHT IN THAT CORNER.
UH, I'M PRETTY SURE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE PICTURES, BUT, UM, NOBODY CAN ACTUALLY LOOK INTO THAT AREA.
NOT EVEN MY NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE IN THE FRONT, SINCE WE HAVE THE WHOLE WALL BUILT LIKE THIS ON A, ON A CURVE, THEY CANNOT LOOK EVEN PEOPLE FROM THE STREET.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT VISIBLE AND FOR US, IT'S NOT VISIBLE.
I DON'T HAVE NO TYPE OF WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE WHATSOEVER.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO AVOID THAT.
AND THERE'S NOT A TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTION TO MONITORING THAT PART? I MEAN, I, I'M PRETTY SURE WE, YEAH, WE CAN SET UP OUR CAMERAS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR WATER? I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
IS THIS WHERE THE CHICKEN WAS LOOSE? DID Y'ALL CHASE A CHICKEN? UM, I, THAT'S A QUESTION I'M, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO THIS CORNER ACTUALLY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE THIS WAS.
I BELIEVE, UM, PUTTING A A SIX FOOT FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD IS, IS, IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ME.
WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO TAKING IT STRAIGHT ACROSS YOUR PROPERTY AND THEN IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE FRONT YARD? WOULD THAT BE A, A SOLUTION FOR THEM? I MEAN, UH, YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS, BUT IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT OKAY THERE, THERE'S NO CHICKEN LOOSE ON IT, BUT YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
CAMERON, QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
TELL WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THE CURRENT FENCE? IF, IF THIS WAS APPROVED MM-HMM
THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THE CURRENT FENCE? SO YOU GONNA KNOCK IT DOWN AND THEN REPLACE IT OR, YES, OF COURSE.
IT'LL BE PRETTY MUCH REPLACED.
AND TRUST ME, IT'LL BE A, A GOOD LOOKING FENCE, A CEDAR FENCE.
AND I'VE SEEN WESTCHESTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY AREA, WHICH THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL FENCES.
AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT TRYING TO PINPOINT NOBODY, BUT HONESTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD LOOKING FENCES ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, AND THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO ALSO.
DO YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR MATERIAL IN MIND? UH, YEAH, I MEAN, IT WILL BE A CEDAR FENCE AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE STAINED, SO IT'S GONNA BE REAL, REAL NICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE DISAPPROVE THIS, UH, UH, MOTION, THIS, UH, VARIANCE.
OKAY, WELL WHAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHEN YOU DO THAT IS LIKE I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND APPROVE, WHICH WE THEN WE CAN VOTE NO OR CLOSE AND DISAPPROVE IS, IS ONE WAY TO DO IT.
BUT WE NEED TO CLOSE IT AND MAKE THE MOTION AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE ALSO, AND I KNOW CASE, BUT WE ALSO NEED REFERENCE THE CASE NUMBER FOR THE RECORD.
WERE THERE ANY THAT COMES, ANYONE SPEAKING? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YES.
BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF, THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CARD ON? ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, NOW AND, AND THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.
JUST, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING UP.
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OKAY.UH, I MOVE THAT, UH, WE CLOSE ZBA 2 5 0 7 1 1 4 9 0 0 4 9.
AND DISAPPROVE THIS AND DISAPPROVE IT.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CLOSE AND DISAPPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 4 9.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO YOU NEED A SECOND FOR THAT? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YEAH, WE NEED A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND IS IN FAVOR OF DISAPPROVING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4.
SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO, UH, DISAPPROVE IT.
WELL THE, SO THAT, THAT MOTION ACTUALLY FAILS MM-HMM
SO SOMEONE IS NOW ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THE MOTION, THE MOTION FAILS MS. BAKER, BECAUSE IT WAS, THERE WAS FOUR, RIGHT? SO A MOTION FAILS.
THAT MOTION DENIED IS THE MOTION IS DENIED TO FAIL IT.
AND SO WE CAN, I'M JUST ASKING.
SO NOW THEN DO I HEAR ANOTHER MOTION? MR. BAKER? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ENC CLOSE CBA CASE NUMBER 2 5 0 7 0 0 4 9.
OKAY, GOT A SECOND? I GOT A SECOND ONE.
MR. LANGS DOWN HERE PRETTY QUICK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT SIX.
SO THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH TO APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A, UH, A FAILURE OR TO APPROVE.
WE NEED, WE HAVE TO HAVE SEVEN.
MR. BAKER, MAY I EXPLAIN TO THE NEW MEMBERS REAL QUICK? YEAH.
SO IN ORDER FOR A MOTION TO PASS, IT NEEDS SEVEN VOTES.
IF A MOTION TO APPROVE IS BEFORE THE BOARD AND THAT MOTION FAILS IS AUTOMATICALLY DEEMED A DENIAL.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A SECOND ONE.
BUT THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC OUTCOME WHENEVER A MOTION TO DENY FAILS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I JUST ADD ONE THING AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE JUST, AND THAT'S, YEAH, LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
TYPICALLY WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR IS SOMEBODY SAY, I LIKE TO MAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND APPROVE ANY CASE.
AND SO THEN WE EITHER APPROVE IT OR WE DON'T.
AND SO IF IT'S APPROVED AND WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT, WE JUST DON'T APPROVE IT AND THEN IT FAILS AND IT'S DEAD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT YOU SAID YOU NEEDED A MOTION FOR APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.
SO I MADE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID.
I SAID I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE A MOTION AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED IS A MOTION.
AND SO THE MOTION I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO APPROVE AND, AND I WANT YOU TO CLOSE AND THEN APPROVE.
UM, TIFFANY, CAN I JUST, THIS IS JUST CLARIFICATION FROM, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WHEN WE SAY CLOSE AND APPROVED, TO ME IT JUST SOUNDS THE OFFICE, IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION THEN CLOSE IT NEED, AND THIS IS JUST SEMANTICS, BUT I I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION IF IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED ENCLO OR CLOSE AND APPROVED, OR DOES EITHER ONE WORK? THE MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN ACTUALLY BE TWO SEPARATE EVEN MOTIONS.
IF YOU WANTED, YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S ALWAYS TYPICALLY DONE AS A SINGLE MOTION.
YOU'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN YOU'RE EITHER YOU'RE APPROVING OR TAKING WHATEVER ACTION ON THE REQUEST.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST ADD THAT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WHAT? SO IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WHAT I WAS HEARING WAS WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE LEAVING IT OPEN SAYING I'M CLOSING AND APPROVE, WE WOULD SAY WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AN APPROVED CASE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, I WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP, BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST SAY CLOSE.
WERE WE CLOSING? LET'S, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD OR FOR CLARIFICATION? I THINK IT'S LIKE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL THAT'S WHAT I, WHEN I, THAT'S WHY WHEN I'M FOR, I SAY I'D LIKE TO CLOSE ZBA, BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH AND APPROVE.
THAT'S WHY YOU GIVE THE CASE NUMBER.
RIGHT? BUT THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT CLOSE CLOSING THE CASE NUMBER.
WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THAT CASE NUMBER.
SO THAT PERSON MAKING THE MOTION, THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION IS I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND RECOMMEND OR APPROVE OR,
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SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.WELL, IF WE'RE BEING VERY TECHNICAL, IT, AS LONG AS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT PUBLIC HEARING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT AGENDA ITEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REFERENCE THE CASE NUMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU, IT, IT'S WHATEVER'S BEFORE YOU, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING THAT HAS BEEN OPENED.
YOU'RE CLOSING THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND APPROVING OR DENYING WHATEVER THE REQUEST IS.
SO, AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHEN THE MAKE THE MOTION SAY WE'RE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S WHAT KIMBERLY IS MAKING.
THAT'S WHAT SHE'S MAKING A POINT ON.
DAVID, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING IT'S OKAY.
IT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY LEARNS.
WELL LET, LEMME GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
SO IN TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS, NO, IT'S MADE AT ONE TIME BUT IT'S SAID AT ONE TIME BUT IT IS TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
SO IN A SITUATION WHERE I MIGHT NOT APPROVE IT, I CAN STILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, TO APPROVE IT AND THEN LET VOTE AGAINST IT.
[4. ZBA-25-07-0050 (Council District 3) – Special exception for a front yard carport and a variance to the front yard setback for an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 310 W. Coral Way, legally described as Lot 1, Block 17/386, nglewood Park Addition Second Installment, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three District]
NEXT ITEM.ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 OH IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT.
OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW AND LOCATED AT THREE 10 WEST CORAL WAY.
THE PROPOSED FRONT YARD CARPORT IS 460 SQUARE FEET AND DETACHED FROM THE HOME 23 FEET WIDE, 2320 FEET DEEP AND 11 FEET HIGH.
IT MEETS ALL OF OUR ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN 800 FEET OF OTHER LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORTS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOWN IN RED.
AND OUR VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO DECREASE THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM FIVE FEET TO THREE FEET.
HERE ARE PICTURES OF OUR EXISTING CARPORT.
THREE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
VICE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ? I HAVE ONE, UM, FAVORABLE POSITION THAT DOES HAVE A BODY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME GO AND READ IT? READ YOU HONOR.
SO IT IS FROM THE RICHARD M. MOORE LIFE ESTATE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THREE 17 WEST CORAL WAY YOU CAN SEE IS THE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET IN CATTY CORNER.
AND THEIR COMMENTS ARE, I SUPPORT THE CARPORT BEING INSTALLED.
THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN THE AREA.
THE OTHER TWO POSITIONS DO NOT HAVE BODY.
ONE IS FROM 3 0 6 WEST CORAL WAY, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEN ONE FROM OUR HOMEOWNER.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, AARON? THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR AARON? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE LEFT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MUCH.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE UH, OR LYDIA, UH, MULLEN.
MULLINAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ON THIS CASE? PLEASE TELL US DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US ALL ABOUT IT.
I LIVE AT THREE 10 WEST CORAL WAY.
UM, THE REASON I DID THE CARPORT IS MY HUSBAND WAS SICK AND WE WERE HAVING TO GO TO MANY, UH, APPOINTMENTS AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS RAINING QUITE A BIT AND IT KEPT GETTING WET AND EVERYTHING.
UM, SO, UH, HE HAD IT BUILT AND THEN HE LANDED GOING TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEN HE GOT OUT AND PASSED AWAY.
BUT AS YOU SEE, I ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS. SO I AM GLAD I HAVE IT 'CAUSE IT PROTECTS ME FROM THE ELEMENTS ALSO, WHENEVER I HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, GO PLACES.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THIS? MM-HMM.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT THERE? ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS? ALRIGHT,
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WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME I'LL TAKE A, A MOTION ON THIS.
I'LL IT I, MR. VICE CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 4 9 AND APPROVE CASE NUMBER ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0.
I'M SORRY, FIVE ZERO, NOT FIVE ZERO.
ALL I'VE, I'LL SECOND IT AND WE'VE GOT A SECOND BY MRS. DEBBIE JOHNSON.
AND, UH, WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION THEN.
WE'LL, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[5. ZBA-25-07-0052 (Council District 3) - Special exception for a garage conversion permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 646 Lynne, legally described as Lot 12, Block G, Royal Valley Estates Addition Third & Fourth Installment, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three District]
PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 2 IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION.
OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 6 4 6 LYNN DRIVE, SHOWN IN YELLOW.
THE PROPOSED GARAGE CONVERSION IS 360 SQUARE FEET AND OUR APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
ON YOUR LEFT IS THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE GARAGE TO BE CONVERTED.
ON YOUR RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES WILL BE ACCOMMODATED ON THEIR DRIVEWAY.
WE SENT 46 NOTICES, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? OKAY.
NOW I'VE GOT A, UM, APPLICANT, AL LAIR.
YOU PRESENT? I THAT'S THE, SORRY, I WROTE THE INCORRECT APPLICANT NAME.
IT'S ACTUALLY DINA ARGUETA AGUILAR.
ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? OKAY, WE'LL SCRATCH THAT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN I START.
AND WHERE AND YOU LIVE AT? UM, SO HER GARAGE DOOR WENT OUT GARAGE.
SO SINCE HER GARAGE DOOR WENT OUT, SHE WANTED TO EXPAND THE GARAGE WHEN NEEDED TO MAKE HER BEDROOM HAVE MORE SPACE.
AND SHE LIVES AT AT 6 46 LYNN DRIVE? YES.
AND SHE WANTS TO EXPAND IT OUT TO MAKE MORE LIVING SPACE SINCE HER GARAGE DOOR WENT OUT? YES, SIR.
WHAT ELSE CAN WE TELL US ABOUT THAT? YOU A SON OR, OR FRIEND OR? NO, I'M JUST TRANSLATING.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND HELPING OUT TONIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THIS PROJECT? YEAH, NO.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? THANK YOU.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THAT.
IS ANYBODY IN THE, IN THE HOUSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS IN FAVOR? CAN SIT DOWN OR OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
UH, IN THAT CASE, WE, ANYBODY ELSE HERE WANNA SPEAK ON IT? ALRIGHT, IN THAT CASE I'LL TAKE A, A MOTION ON THIS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 2 SECOND AND APPROVE.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE GOT BY ANNA, MS. KIMBERLY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
[6. ZBA-25-07-0053 (Council District 1) - Special exception for a garage conversion permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 321 W. Phillips Ct., legally described as Lot 17, Block 3, Inglewood Park Addition First Installment, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three District]
ALL RIGHT.[01:05:08]
GOOD EVENING, BOARD.MY NAME IS SALVADOR AND I'LL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THIS X ITEM AND THE NEXT FEW ITEMS. UH, STARTING OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FIVE DASH SEVEN DASH 0 0 5 3.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 2 1 WEST PHILLIPS COURTS.
THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY THIRD RESIDENTIAL, AND ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS TO CONVERT A LIVING SPACE, UM, EXCUSE ME, A GARAGE INTO A LIVING SPACE OF ABOUT 220 SQUARE FEET.
THEY'RE PROVIDING TO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A EXISTING FLOOR PLAN AND A PROPOSED WITH THE PROPOSED SHOWING THAT CONVERSION, UH, TO TURN THE GARAGE INTO A STORAGE AR UH, STORAGE AREA AND TO ADD A SMALL WINDOW.
AND THEN ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE, UH, STREET KIND OF PROFILE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE THAT, UH, AMPLE PARKING SPACES.
AND, UM, ONE THING THAT I WILL MENTION ABOUT THIS CASE IS THAT ALTHOUGH THERE IS NOT, UM, A LEGALLY UH, CONVERTED GARAGE WITHIN 300 FEET.
IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WILL SEE THAT UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, GARAGE CONVERSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 45 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO.
RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN, OPPOSED, AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT.
JUST MAKE SURE, UM, THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL SET PRECEDENT FOR THE FIRST LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSION.
SO IT'S NOT SETTING PRECEDENT FOR GARAGE CONVERSIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FIRST LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE.
THERE ARE SOME WITHIN THE STREET, THAT SAME STREET, THE SAME BLOCK? YES.
ALL NOW, HERE AGAIN, I HAVE ONE NAME ON THE, UH, PRINTED OUT VERSION AND I'VE GOT ONE DIFFERENT NAME ON THE SPEAKER CAR.
IS HE IN THE HOUSE? IS HE GONNA COME SPEAK? UH, HE'S THE OWNER, BUT I'M GONNA SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF OF HIS BROTHER IF I CAN.
S SARVIA? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
COME HERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
MY FIRST NAME IS DOUGLAS, LAST NAME'S SARAVIA.
AND UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1606 OAK STREET GRAND PRAIRIE, 7 5 0 5 0.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT MY BROTHER OWNS.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OR MYSELF OF, UH, DOWNSIZING HIM DUE TO HIS FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT'S CHANGED.
AND SO THIS PROPERTY, UM, HE IS GONNA BE DOWNSIZING AND HAS A LOT OF, UH, STORAGE OR ITEMS IN STORAGE THAT, UH, HE IS, UH, PAYING STORAGE FOR.
UM, AND ALSO HE'S HAS A BIGGER SPACE WHERE HE'S AT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD A STORAGE ROOM SO THAT WE CAN, UH, ACCOMMODATE HIM IN THIS PROPERTY SINCE HE'S GONNA BE DOWNSIZING, UM, AT THIS NEW PROPERTY HERE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? CHRISTOPHER? MR. SIRIA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING.
UH, EXPLAIN THE DOWNSIZING, UH, IS HE'S MOVING INTO A SMALLER PROPERTY FROM A LARGER PROPERTY YES.
AND WANTS TO CONVERT THE GARAGE, EXISTING GARAGE INTO A STORAGE AREA.
UH, HE, WHERE HE'S AT, HE'S, HE'S AT A BIGGER, UH, PROPERTY WITH A LOT MORE SPACE AND, UH, HIS, UH, FINANCIAL SITUATION HAS CHANGED.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE, HE'S GONNA BE DOWNSIZING AND HE'S WANTING TO HAVE THAT, UH, ONE CAR GARAGE TURNED INTO A STORAGE ROOM.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S ITEMS THAT HE HAS THAT HE SAYS THAT, UH, WILL BE DAMAGED BY THE EXTREME HEATER CODE.
SO HE'S WANTED TO, IT'S GONNA BE A STORAGE ROOM, BASICALLY A, A, A STORAGE ROOM WITH A, A NEW PORTABLE AC UH, IN THERE TO HAVE, UH, CONTROL OF THE TEMPERATURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MY RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO, UH, SPEAK ON THIS, THAT HEAR THAT? DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING? ALRIGHT.
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ELSE WANTING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? MS. GOOD? YES.CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON, UH, THIS CLOSE TO CLOSE, UH, 0 0 25 0 7 5 4.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? SO I'LL HAVE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO, UM, 25 7 5 3.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION ON THAT AND TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION AND WE GOT A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.
[7. ZBA-25-07-0054 (Council District 2) – Special exception for a front yard carport and a variance to the maximum lot coverage permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 3746 Oak Meadow Dr., legally described as Lot 13, Block 7, Heritage Heights South Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development District134]
CASE PLEASE.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 0 5 4.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 37 46 OAK MEADOW DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 34.
AND THE PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT OR, UH, TO ENLARGE, UH, AN EXISTING FRONT YARD CARPORTS.
I MENTIONED DURING THE BRIEFING THAT, UH, THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING FRONT YARD CARPORT THERE, HOWEVER, IT'S MUCH SMALLER AND THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO, UH, INCREASE HIS SIZE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ARE NEEDING A MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE VARIANCE.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN, UH, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING REAR YARD ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH, UH, AN ADDITION TO A PATIO AREA.
AND SO, UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY, UH, CONSTRICTED TO 30% OF LOCK COVERAGE WITHIN THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS REQUEST TO INCREASE IT TO 55% WILL ALLOW THE, UH, NOT ONLY THE EXISTING, BUT ALSO THE PROPOSED CARPORT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE IF IT WERE TO BE APPROVED.
AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL SIDE PLAN OF THAT PROPOSED CARPORT.
AND, UM, IF YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN WHEREVER THE, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THAT PICKUP TRUCK, THAT'S WHERE THE, UM, CARPORT IS NOW AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ENLARGED AS WELL.
AND I KIND OF, SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED AND DURING BRIEFING AS WELL, THERE IS A, A LEGALLY CONSTRUCTED CARPORT WITHIN 300 FEET.
SO WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT CARPORT'S, UM, ON THIS IMAGE THERE.
AND IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT HOW ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
OKAY? I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT, I SHOULD MENTION.
HOWEVER, THOUGH HE IS A DISABLED, UH, VETERAN AND SO HE MAY HAVE HAD SOME, UM, ISSUE COME UP OR SOMETHING.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO THE RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES MAAM.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE PLEASE? YES.
SO HE'S GOT TWO CURB CUTS, HE'S GOT PLENTY OF PARKING FOR EVERYTHING.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME HE'S, YOU SAID HE'S A DISABLED VET? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IS THAT CARPORT GONNA COME UP TO THAT, TO THAT DRIVE THAT, THAT, UM, SIDEWALK THERE? IS THAT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO ACHIEVE? UH, YES, IT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THAT, UM, SMALL WALKWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST BECAUSE, UM, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'LL HELL AND RIGHT, THIS IS JUST WHAT FROM THE APPLICANT HAS TOLD ME.
UM, THAT'S, UH, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR HIM.
HE AS A, UM, WITH HIS DISABILITY I GUESS.
UM, I WAS LEANING A LITTLE, NO, BUT I'M LEANING A LITTLE YES NOW BECAUSE THAT IS AN ACCESSIBILITY IF YOU THINK, 'CAUSE HE COULD PUT THAT CARPORT IN THE BACK BY THAT BIG BUILDING IF IT WAS COVERAGE.
BUT, AND NOBODY ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE THESE BIG CARPORTS IN THE FRONT THAT I CAN SEE ON ANY OF THESE PICTURES.
AND I WILL MENTION AGAIN, THERE IS ONE, UM, JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY THAT IS, UH, LEGALLY PERMITTED.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YOUR LEFT? ALRIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD IN FAVOR OR AGAINST, UM, AND SO ANY PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS, UH, IF I DON'T HEAR THAT, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A, A MOTION ON THIS.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT HE CLOSE AND APPROVE CASE NUMBER 2 5 0 7 0 5 4.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE I HEARD FIRST, SO IT'S
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OKAY.IF WE GOT A MOTION, MS. KIMBERLY AND A SECOND MY, UH, CHRISTOPHER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[8. ZBA-25-07-0055 (Council District 1) – Special exception for a front yard carport and a variance to the front yard setback for an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 2325 Lancaster Dr., legally described as Lot 15, Block C, Forum Terrace Addition First Increment, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development District-82]
MOVING ON.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THIS IS EBA TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 0 5 5.
SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 3 2 5 LANCASTER DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 82 DISTRICT AND IT IS FOR THE INTENT OF BUILDING A FRONT YARD CARPORT.
AS I MENTIONED DURING THE BRIEFING, IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT FRONT YARD CARPORT, THEY ARE NEEDING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
ESSENTIALLY THE FRONT YARD SETBACK IS A LINE THAT SAYS WHERE YOU CAN BUILD UP TO.
AND THAT PROPOSED CARPORT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN ON THE SIDE PLAN, WOULD BE PAST THAT BUILD LINE.
AND SO THEY'RE WANTING TO REDUCE THAT FRONT YARD CARPORT FROM 20 FEET TO 13 FEET FOR A 198 SQUARE FOOT.
UH, DETACHED FRONT YARD CARPORT, 18 FEET WIDE, 11 FEET DEEP AND EIGHT FEET HIGH.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT DURING OUR BREAK AND HE DID MENTION THAT HE, UH, IS WANTING TO REQUEST TO INCREASE THE WIDTH FROM 18 FEET TO 20 FEET.
AND I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO MORE ABOUT THAT.
UH, WHENEVER HE DOES COME UP HERE, AND THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THAT, UM, EXISTING PROPERTY, THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CARPORT WOULD GO.
IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 54 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE WAS RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
DO YOU HAVE LETTERS ON THOSE? I DO.
WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THOSE? OKAY.
I WILL START OFF WITH JAN PATTERSON LOCATED AT 2321 LANCASTER DRIVE, CRANBERRY, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2 FOR ZP TWO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 0 5 5.
AND THE REGISTERED POSITION IS IN SUPPORT WITH NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
AND I WILL MENTION THAT THIS IS, UH, WITHIN THAT STREET, SO IT'S A FEW PROPERTIES DOWN.
I HAVE A POSITION FROM JACK LANHAM AT 2309 LANCASTER DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 6 0 5 0 FOR ZBA TWO FIVE DASH SEVEN DASH 0 5 5 WITH A REGISTERED POSITION OF OPPOSITION.
IN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OF QUOTE, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THE CARDBOARD AS IT FALLS OUTSIDE THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS.
ALLOWING THIS PROJECT TO PROCEED WOULD SET A CONCERNING PRECEDENT THAT UNDERMINES THE AESTHETIC AND STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE OF THE KEY REASONS RESIDENTS CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE IS THE CONSISTENT ADHERENCE TO COMMITTEE STANDARDS WHICH PRESERVED BOTH PROPERTY VALUES AND OVERALL CURB APPEAL.
DEVAL, DEVI, EXCUSE ME, DEVIATING FROM THESE STANDARDS RISK DIMINISHING THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I URGE THE COMMITTEE TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE LONGSTANDING EXPECTATIONS AND VISUAL VISUAL HARMONY OF OUR COMMUNITY END QUOTE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES, CHRISTOPHER SALVADOR.
YOU MENTIONED DURING YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE TO THIS FROM 18 FEET TO 20 FEET.
SO BEING BRAND NEW TO THIS, IS THAT FAIRLY CONSISTENT THAT SOMEONE COULD BRING A DIFFERENT THING TO US AT THIS POINT? SOMETIMES APPLICANTS DO CHANGE THEIR REQUESTS, UM, WHEN THEY'RE UP HERE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
SOMETIMES IT IS THAT THE BOARD IS WANTING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS TO MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DIGESTIBLE TO THE BOARD.
UM, SO IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN A MOTION'S MADE, UH, IT IS MADE WITH THE CHANGES.
SO, UM, MAY I, IF I MAY SPEAK, TYPICALLY CHANGES ARE MADE TO ACTUALLY COME INTO MORE COMPLIANCE, TYPICALLY.
UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE ONLY BECAUSE THE WIDTH WAS NOT SPECIFIED IN OUR NOTIFICATION.
AND IT'S STILL NOT REQUIRING ADDITIONAL VARIANCES BECAUSE WE DO ALLOW THE MINIMUM, THE MAXIMUM WIDTH TO BE 26 FEET.
BUT I'LL SEE IF TIFFANY AGREES WITH THAT.
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AS LONG AS WE'VE GIVEN SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC OF THE VARIANCE OR EXCEPTION, THAT IS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD.UM, THEY THEN THEY CAN MODIFY IT.
'CAUSE WHAT THERE'S, WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS IT DOESN'T FALL IN THE VARIANCE.
SO SALVADOR, DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW COVERAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE INCREASE? YES.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, GOING OVER THE LOCK OF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THERE'S, THERE'S WHAT ALOR SAID.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL VARIANCES THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE.
UM, AS OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED, UH, WE DO HAVE TO NOTIFY LEGALLY TO, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE HAVE A LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SPECIFIES WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO REQUEST.
SO IN THIS CASE, THEY MENTIONED THE VARIANCE FOR THE SETBACK AND THEN THE CARPORTS.
UM, WE DID NOT SPECIFY IN THAT NOTICE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF AN AREA THE CARPORT WOULD COVER SPECIFIC DEATH, SPECIFIC WIDTH.
AND SO IF SOMEONE WAS INTERESTED IN FINDING ABOUT, ABOUT THE CASE, THEY WOULD COME HERE AND FIND OUT THE SPECIFIC DETAILS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEING ALLOWED TO CHANGE.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD NOT VIOLATE ANY ADDITIONAL STANDARD IN, IN SUMMARY, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS FRONT YARD SETBACK REDUCTION.
THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THAT SETBACK.
NO, SEND IT BACK FROM 20 FEET TO 13 FEET.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING REALLY AT ISSUE.
'CAUSE BECAUSE TYPICALLY THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY SQUARE FOOT THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE BEFORE THEY EVEN ASK FOR VARIANCE, AND THEY'RE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT.
WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT SETBACK VARIANCE TO GET RELIEF FOR THAT.
AND, AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS.
NOW, I'LL SAY AGAIN, ANTHONY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? OH, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, WHAT WAS THE VARIANCE THAT WE WAS VOTING ON? WAS IT 16 OR 18 OR WHAT? WHATEVER.
YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THAT TO HIM? SURE, I WILL EXPLAIN IT.
SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN, UH, THERE'S THIS SOLID, BOLD LINE.
UM, FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY INWARDS.
AND THAT BASICALLY SAYS, UM, THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD PAST THIS LINE HERE.
ACTUALLY, UM, THIS ONE IS 25 FEET.
UM, FOR SOME REASON, THIS PROPERTY, WHENEVER IT WAS PLOTTED, UH, DID HAVE A 25 FOOT BUILD LINE.
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT STANDARD IS 20 FEET.
AND SO, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD THAT CARPORT IN THE FRONT YARD, UM, THAT PROPOSED CARPORT, AS YOU CAN SEE, WOULD NOT ONLY GO PAST THE BUILD LINE, BUT IT WOULD GO PRETTY FAR PAST IT.
AND SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THIS LINE UP SO THAT THIS CARPORT CAN FIT, UH, WITHIN THAT BUILD LINE.
NO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST SAYING, UH, THE WIDTH OF THE CARPORT WAS REPORTED AS 18 FEET.
BUT THEY WANNA DO IT 20 FEET, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
THERE ARE ONLY ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION HERE IS THAT THE, THEY WANNA REQUEST A REDUCTION FROM 20 FEET TO 13 FEET.
UM, THEM INCREASING THE WIDTH TO 20 FEET, IT'S KIND OF HAS NO VARIANCE.
IT, IT DOES NOT RELATE TO THE VARIANCE.
AND, UM, I WILL SAY, SO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS JUNE MENTIONED, IS UP TO THE BOARD.
I YOU HAVE THE, THE OPTION HERE.
SO ONE MORE QUESTION FROM COMM, UM, BOARD MEMBER.
WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY? SURE.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE STREET VIEW.
IS THAT OKAY? WELL, I WAS HOPING IT WAS WIDE ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD SHOW ME WHERE THE CLOSEST CARPORT IS.
SO, 'CAUSE I, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THERE AREN'T ANY THAT'S RIGHT.
THERE IS NO LEGALLY PERMITTED CARPORTS WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, HOWEVER, YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THERE ARE NON PERMITTED CARPORTS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S WHAT I, DO, YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW FAR OUT THAT IS? IT'S WITHIN 300 FEET.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THIS THE PROPERTY THAT HAD THE, IS THE OWNER? IS THE OWNER HERE? YES.
CAN HE, CAN HE TALK TO THAT? AND WE WILL IS THIS, BUT HE CAN'T TALK YET BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING TO HIM.
FOR SECOND, ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF? GOTCHA.
TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS PRO STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY, THERE WE GO.
SO TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND TELL GOOD EVENING, UH, ADDRESS.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
MY ADDRESS IS 2325 LANCASTER DRIVE.
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UH, CAME, WE CAME BACK TO TEXAS AFTER 15 YEARS OF BEING OUT.UM, WE, WE GOT LUCKY TO FIND THIS NICE HOUSE.
AND LAST YEAR MY TWO SONS WERE VISITING AND IT WAS A BAD WEEK BECAUSE IT WAS A STRONG HAIL.
AND I GOT TWO, I LAST YEAR I HAD TWO KIDS IN COLLEGE.
SO THEY CAME IN IN THE SUMMER AND THEY, AND THE CAR GOT HIT.
THAT'S $3,000 DEDUCTIBLES THIS YEAR.
TWO CARS GOT HIT, THAT'S ANOTHER $2,000.
WE MOVED TO MISSOURI, WHICH IS THERE MORE HA.
SO IT WAS TIME, SUCH TIME FOR CAR TO PROTECT MY CARS.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY ARE CAR POTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACCORDING TO MY REAL ESTATE AGENT THAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WILL GO UP.
SO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OPPOSING THE REASON THAT HE'S GIVEN, UH, IT, IT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE HE WILL, AND IT'S HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WISH THAT WE CAN TELL HIM THAT THERE ARE THE AREAS IN THE HOUSES THAT HE NEEDS TO BE SUPERVISING RATHER THAN SOMEBODY HIRING A CAR POT.
IT'S GONNA BE BUILT PROFESSIONALLY IS NOT GONNA LOOK BAD.
AND THE REASON I ASK HIM FOR THESE LABS AND THE DRIVEWAY, THERE ARE NINE BY EIGHT, SO 18 FEET WITH ON THE COVER, THE, UH, THE, THE DRIVEWAY AND THE POST IS GONNA BE THE POST.
I'M GONNA BE RIGHT THERE IN THE, IN THE GRASS.
UH, AND, AND BESIDE AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND I HAVE A PICTURE OF, UH, OF, UH, OR THERE SOMETHING SIMILAR.
I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN SHOW YOU, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING BUILT.
ANOTHER HOUSE, NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DIFFERENT CITY, BUT IT WOULD BE SIX BY SIX POLES AND IT'S GONNA HAVE TWO BY SIX ACROSS AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THAT, THAT BEAM TO SUPPORT THE HOLE.
AND IT'S GONNA BE PAINTED, UH, PICTURE LIKE THIS.
THAT WILL BE THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE CEILING.
CAN I PASS OVER THIS PASS? THANK YOU.
OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GET THESE BACK TO YOU.
YES? YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.
SO YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THIS OUT OF WOOD AND NOT METAL, CORRECT? WELL, THE BUILDING, HE'LL HAVE TO GO BY BUILDING CODE.
IT, IT WAS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, DOING IN METAL BECAUSE THEN I HAD TO HIRE A WELD THERE AND I SAID WOOD, UH, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, I WORKED PART-TIME IN CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF CARPENTRY AND MM-HMM
AND, UH, I CAN, I I'LL HAVE HELP, BUT, BUT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO TO THE ROOF.
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FEET, WILL THERE BE A SIDE SETBACK PROBLEM AT ALL? DID ANYBODY CHECK? WE ARE FINE.THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL VARIANCE NEEDED.
UM, IT WOULD LINE UP PRETTY MUCH WITH THE HOUSE, SO, YEAH.
MR. V, MR. RELL, UM, WITH THIS WIDENING FROM 18 FEET TO 20 FEET, DOES IT RUN IN, DOES THAT COVER THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY, THEREFORE PUTTING YOU IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE GRASS ON EITHER SIDE? THE, THE POST? WELL, THE NO, NO.
CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE HOUSE PICTURE PLEASE? YEAH, SURE.
THIS JOB WOULD REQUIRE TO MOVE THE GUTTER FROM THE LEDGER, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ASK, REPEAT THAT SENTENCE PLEASE.
COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? OH, I'M SORRY.
THE, THE, THE GUTTERS OF THE FRONT ON THE TOP OF THE GARAGE? YES.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE REMOVED AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ATTACH A SIX BY TWO THERE, WHERE THAT'S GONNA, THE BEAMS ARE GONNA, UH, COOK TO IT.
SO THE, THE POST, THE SIX PACK SIX THAT IS GONNA SUPPORT IN THE, AT THE END, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THE GRASS.
WE'RE GONNA DIG A HOLE AND, AND PUT CONCRETE.
OKAY, SO THE, SO THE, THIS CARPORT IS WIDER THAN THE EXISTING, UH, DRIVEWAY.
CONCRETE DRIVEWAY? WELL, THE, YEAH, IT IS GONNA GO ONE FOOT AND SIDE BECAUSE THE, IT IS 18 FEET WIDE, BUT THE POST HAS TO BE OUTSIDE THE, I DON'T WANNA BREAK THE CONCRETE.
SO THE, WELL, WE'LL WE WILL, WE NEED TO DIG A HOLE IN THE GRASS NEXT TO THE, TO THE, UH, TO THE CONCRETE TO PUT THE POST THAT THEY'RE GONNA SUPPORT THE END.
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING, SIR.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DO HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD ON THIS CASE.
LOUISE GARZA, ARE YOU HERE OR YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS? YOU DIDN'T CHECK YES OR NO? ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE A CARD HERE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IN SUPPORT OF OR SUPPORT AGAINST OR WANNA SPEAK.
SO ANYWAY, I'VE GOT A CARD, SO THANK YOU FOR WRITING IN A CARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE HERE FOR IT, AGAINST IT.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT, IN THAT CASE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND THAT, UH, WE APPROVE ZBA NUMBER 25 0 7 0 0 5 5.
ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE YOUR RIGHT HAND ALL 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 IN VOTES TO SEVEN TO TWO PASSES.
CAN WE SEE, UH, HANDS FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSED? OPPOSED? OPPOSED? OKAY.
YEAH, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO CALL THE VOTE FOR THE OPPOSED MM-HMM
[9. ZBA-25-07-0056 (Council District 2) – Variance to the rear yard setback for an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 841 Chaparral Dr., legally described as Lot 26, Block 31, Westchester Phase IV Addition Installment II, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development District-172]
NEXT CASE.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, ZBA A 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 6 VARIANCE FOR REAR YARD SETBACK FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 4 1 CHAPARRAL DRIVE.
THIS IS WITHIN PD OR PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 72.
AND THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS FOR AN EXISTING REAR YARD CARPORT.
HOWEVER, THE VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THE REASON WHY THEY'RE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE TONIGHT IS TO GET A REDUCTION IN THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT LOCATION, MAP ON SCREEN, THIS PROPERTY DOES FACE A STREET, BUT ALSO AN ALLEYWAY WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR GARAGE FROM THE REAR AND WHERE THAT EXISTING CARPORT IS.
AND SO THAT PD DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM REAR YARD SETBACK OF 20 FEET AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO ZERO TO BRING THAT EXISTING CARPORT INTO COMPLIANCE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THAT EXISTING PROPERTY.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE THAT REAR ALLEY AND THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS IS.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD BRING THE EXISTING CARPORT INTO COMPLIANCE WITHOUT ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD UP RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE REAR.
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AND SO IN THIS REGARD, 54 NOTICES WERE SENT UNTIL TO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN OPPOSED, AND THERE IS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES.
TO CHRISTOPHER? YES, SALVADOR.
UM, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE AERIAL, UH, VIEW AND SHOW ME WHERE THIS IS.
'CAUSE YOU SAID IT'S EXISTING, THE AERIAL VIEW.
OH, YOU WANNA KNOW WHERE THE CARPORT'S GONNA GO? YEAH, YOU, OH, WELL YOU SAID IT EXISTS.
THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW WITH, IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE I'M MOVING MY MOUSE THERE.
SO, SO THIS AREA OF VIEW IS PRIOR TO THEM BUILDING THE CARPORT AND NOW THERE'S ONE THERE.
WHILE YOU HAVE THAT AERIAL VIEW UP, WHEN YOU SAY ZERO SETBACK, IS THAT TO THE ALLEY OR IS IT TO THAT WHERE THE BACK END OF THAT CAR IS, UH, CLOSE TO WHERE THE BACK END OF THE CAR IS? RIGHT AROUND THAT, UH, AROUND THAT FENCE LINE.
SO THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR TRASH TRUCKS AND PLENTY OF ROOM FOR TALL STRUCTURES? YES, THERE ARE NOT RIGHT UP TO THE ALLEYWAY.
AND LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.
WHEN SOMEBODY JUST BUILDS A CARPORT AND THEY COME BACK AND ASK FOR PERMISSION, DOES SOMEBODY GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT TO SPECIFICATIONS? YES.
SO THE TYPICAL PROCESS IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS SPECIAL, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, THIS VARIANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE NEXT STAGE WOULD BE THE PERMITTING PROCESS WHERE OUR PERMITTING TECHS AND ACTUALLY OURSELVES REVIEW THE CASE.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS TIME IT'S FOR THEM TO AT OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, IF THEY WERE TO ATTAIN THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THEY'RE APPROVED, UM, THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONSTRUCT WITH, UH, INSPECTIONS ALONG THE WAY.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE INSPECTIONS WOULD BE CONDUCTED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING EVERYTHING UP TO THEIR, UH, TO CODE, NOT ONLY TO CODE, BUT TO THEIR PLANTS.
BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANY LONGER BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SET IN CONCRETE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, HOW DO YOU CHECK THAT? WELL, BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY GET THIS EXCEPTION, UM, THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO FINISH OUT THAT PERMITTING PROCESS SINCE THEY NEVER ATTAINED A PERMIT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL DO THE INSPECTIONS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY CAN MAKE 'EM TEAR IT DOWN IF IT'S NOT UP TO CODE.
MELINDA? WELL, IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION ON WHAT DEBBIE'S ASKING, BUT AM I UNDERSTANDING YOU RIGHT TO SAY HOW DO YOU INSPECT THE, THE CONCRETE AND SEE IF THERE'S REBAR IN IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT'S CONSTRUCTED OVER A PAVED DRIVEWAY, WHICH HAD A SEPARATE PERMIT PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION.
THE CARPORT, THE DRIVEWAY WAS, UH, MOST LIKELY PERMITTED ALONG WITH THE HOME, RIGHT? SO, BUT THESE POST ARE IN THE, IN THE, UH, GRASS.
I THINK AARON WANTS TO ADD TO THAT.
TY TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT IS BILLED WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PERMIT AND THEY COME BACK IN, ESPECIALLY REGARDING FOOTERS, THEY CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO DIG, PULL AROUND A FOOTER SO THAT THEY CAN TEST AND INSPECT AT LEAST ONE OF THEM OR MORE TO BE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SOUND AND BUILT TOWARDS OUR, UH, BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS WILL STILL GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS TAG TO WHAT AARON'S SAYING, UM, TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS UP TO CODE.
AND AARON IS A PLANNER, BY THE WAY.
I'M A CERTIFIED PERMIT TECHNICIAN AS WELL,
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SALVADOR? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE THEN.
UH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BRING GAIL DOWN HERE, GAIL BANKS AND LET HER SPEAK TO US ON THIS.
UM, I, I, I CAN READ THE LETTERS AFTER.
LET'S, LET'S LET SALVADOR, HE'S, I KNOW HE HAD LETTERS ON THIS.
I DO HAVE TWO, UM, REGISTERED POSITIONS HERE.
SO ONE IS FROM A MISS GAIL BANKS, A FOUR ONE, SHE DRIVE GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER CPA TWO FIVE DASH 7 5 6 IN SUPPORT WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OF QUOTE, REASON FOR APPROVAL OF REQUEST PROTECT VEHICLES FROM SEVERE WEATHER AND EXTENDS THEIR LIFESPAN, KEEPS THEM SECURE ON THE PROPERTY, AND RATHER EXPOSE 'EM TO THE STREETS WITH TRAFFIC.
NO HARMFUL EFFECTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REDUCE NOISE AND HEADLIGHTS AFFECTING NEIGHBORS AT NIGHT SINCE THE VEHICLES BE TUCK BEHIND.
HOME NARROW STREETS AND FRONT YARD REDUCED SAFETY BACKYARD LOCATION MINIMIZES IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER PRE-EXISTING EASEMENT AND BACKYARD STOP FROM EXPANDING C WATER END QUOTE.
AND THEN I HAVE A JAMES BANKS AT A FOUR ONE CHAPERONE DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER ZBA A TWO FIVE DASH OH SEVEN DASH 0 5 6 AND
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REGISTER POSITION OF SUPPORT WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OF QUOTE, REASON FOR SUPPORT PROTECTION FOR VEHICLES FROM SEVERE TEXAS WEATHER TUCKED AWAY TRAFFIC ON NARROW FRONT STREET PARKING ON THE PROPERTY, NO OBSTRUCTION TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.SAFETY OUT OF YOU FROM, FROM YOUR LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT.
MY ADDRESS IS 8 41 CHAPEL DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
OKAY, SO I'M REQUESTING AN APPROVAL FOR MY CARPORT IN MY BACKYARD.
UH, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE, UM, WHY THIS LOCATION IS BOTH PRACTICAL FOR OUR HOUSEHOLD AND RESPECTFUL FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE FIRST, UM, FIRST DISPLACEMENT IS THE SAFEST AND MOST PRACTICAL OPTION FOR US.
THE LAYOUT OF OUR LOT AND DRIVEWAY MAKES THE, MAKES THE BACKYARD, UM, ACCESS THE MOST LOGICAL LOCATION.
THE FIRST, THE, THE FRONT STREET SPACE IS VERY NARROW.
THE PARKING IS NOT SAFE DUE TO THE LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE.
SECOND, THE BACKYARD, UH, LOCATION MINIMIZES ANY IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS CHARACTER FROM THE STREET.
CARPORT WILL BE LARGELY OUT OF SIGHT, WHICH PRESERVES OUR FRONT YARD, UM, APPEARANCE AND DEFINES OUR BLOCK.
THIRD, THIS LOCATION PROVIDES IMPORTANT PROTECTION AND SAFETY BENEFITS FOR, UM, FOR THE CARPORT SHIELDS.
VEHICLES FROM THE WEATHER EXTENDS THE LIFESPAN OF OUR VEHICLES AND KEEPS A SECURE PROPERTY RATHER THAN EXPOSED TO THE STREETS.
IT REDUCES THE NOISE AND, UM, IN THE, UM, HEADLIGHTS AFFECTING A NEIGHBORHOOD AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORS AT NIGHT SINCE THE VEHICLE WILL BE TUCKED AWAY IN THE, UH, BEHIND THE HOME.
FINALLY, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS REQUEST IS BASED ON THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF OUR PROPERTY.
GRANTING A VARIANCE ALLOWS US, EASILY, ALLOWS US TO RESPONSIBLY USE OUR PROPERTY WITHOUT CAUSING HARM OR DISRUPTING OTHERS.
AND DEFINITELY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ON THIS? IN THAT CASE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO APPROVE THIS CARPORT AS, UH, PRESENTED.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MAKE, I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 6.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND, MADAM CHRISTOPHER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THAT IS APPROVED NINE TO ZERO.
[11. ZBA-25-07-0058 (Council District 2) – Variances to the rear yard setback and the maximum allowable wall height for an accessory structure, and to the maximum square footage of all accessory structures permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 2431 Augusta Ln., legally described as Lot 17, Block 8, Forum Village Southwest Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-83]
NEXT CASE PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER 11 ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 8 IS VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN YELLOW AND LOCATED AT 2 4 3 1 AUGUSTA LANE.
THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 24 FEET WIDE, 40 FEET DEEP, 17 FEET HIGH MEETS ALL OF THE ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM REAR YARD SETBACK, THE MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT AND ALLOWABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AREA.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY 2 5 0 7 0 0 5 7 5 8.
OKAY, SO THAT ITEM WAS REQUEST TO BE THE TABLE FIRST OF ALL.
YEAH, WE NEED TO TABLE THAT UP.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THE PACKET WAS SENT OUT WITH THE REQUEST TO TABLE THAT ITEM.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE A SEPARATE MOTION? YES, TECHNICALLY YES WE DO.
UH, BEFORE WE, YEAH, BEFORE WE START THAT, UH, I REQUEST A, UH, MOTION ON, UH, ON, ON ITEM TWO ZBA 2 5 0 7 0 5 7.
JUDGE, CHAIRMAN, I ACTUALLY, UH, MOVE THAT THE TABLE.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT.
VICE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BEGIN AGAIN OR SHOULD I PICK UP WHERE I LEFT
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OFF? YOU CAN PICK UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF.OUR PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 960 SQUARE FEET.
AGAIN, THE DIMENSIONS ARE 24 FEET WIDE, 40 FEET DEEP, AND 17 FEET IN HEIGHT.
IT DOES MEET ALL OF OUR ARTICLE SIX DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM REAR YARD SETBACK, MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT AND ALLOWABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AREA.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK FROM 10 FEET TO PROPOSED EIGHT FEET, INCREASE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WALL HEIGHT FROM THE ALLOWABLE 12 FEET TO 14 FEET, AND TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE AREA FOR ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FROM 934 SQUARE FEET TO 960 SQUARE FEET.
HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS SHOWING WHAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE.
27 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT SIZE IS THIS LOT? IT'S UNDER HALF AN ACRE.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? I'M SORRY.
SO, UM, THE HEIGHT INDICATES TO ME FOR AN RV IS PROBABLY IS DID THE, DID THE APPLICANT TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND IS THERE A ROAD THEY DID NOT SPECIFY THAT BOARD MEMBER? HOWEVER, OUR APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
AND WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR HIM.
ASK HIM THAT THEN WHEN HE COMES UP, IS THERE, UM, CONCRETE THAT GOES TO THE SAID STRUCTURE OR IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT? AGAIN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR OUR APPLICANT.
THERE IS NOT CONCRETE THAT I HAVE SEEN.
I WILL NOTE THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVE APPROACH ON THAT SIDE.
MM-HMM
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ANTHONY, COME ON DOWN.
ANTHONY LINDO, YOU ARE THE WINNER OF TONIGHT'S LAST CASE.
TELL US ALL, TELL US EACH, YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
ME AND MY WIFE LEAH HAVE LIVED AT THE 24 31 AUGUSTA LANE RESIDENCE SINCE MAY OF 1983.
AND, UH, AT THIS STAGE IN OUR LIFE, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING SOME OF THE STORAGE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR OFFSITE ON SITE WHERE IT'S MORE AVAILABLE TO US IN OUR RETIREMENT.
UM, I MAINLY AM UP HERE TO EV AVAIL MYSELF OF QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE, BUT I COULD MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT, UH, THE RATIONALE BEHIND, UM, THESE VARIANCES AND, UH, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
THE, UH, THE SETBACK VARIANCE, UH, IS TO INCREASE THE SPACE BETWEEN OUR HOUSE AND THE STORAGE BUILDING THAT WE'RE ASKING TO PUT IN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, WE TOOK THE, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE MASTER GARDENING PROGRAM.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT EXISTS OR NOT, BUT IT'S A THING.
AND WE HAD TO DO OUR OWN GARDENING.
SO THE IDEA THERE WAS TO INCREASE THE SPACE BETWEEN OUR HOUSE AND THE BUILDING FOR PURPOSES OF GARDENING.
UM, THE, UH, WALL HEIGHT, UH, BEING AN ENGINEER I, I LIKE MAXIMUM UTILITY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU ENVISION, YOU MIGHT DO SOMETHING TODAY, UM, MIGHT NOT FIT TO TOMORROW OR IF WE SELL THE PROPERTY, WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO USE THE STORAGE BUILDING FOR.
SO, UH, MAXIMUM UTILITY OF USING A 14 FOOT TALL, UH, WALL HEIGHT, UH, IS BENEFICIAL IN THAT REGARD.
AND, UH, THE FINAL, UM, IN TERMS OF COMING UP WITH THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE PROVIDER OFFERED IN TERMS OF, UH, STOCK SIZES.
AND THIS PARTICULAR STOCK SIZED STAYED WITHIN THE GUIDELINES FOR, UH, CODE IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT PROTRUDING FROM THE EDGES OF OUR HOME OR, UH, TOWERING ABOVE OUR HOME, UH, OR ANY OF THE HOMES AROUND US FOR THAT MATTER.
UM, AND SO THAT'S ALL THE POINTS THAT, THAT, UH, I WANTED TO BRING UP.
AND, UH, I'M OPEN TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I SAW IS THAT RENDERING IS VERY PRETTY, BUT IT MAKES IT LOOK TALLER THAN 14 FOOT
I MEAN, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU CAN PUT A MOBILE HOME IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST LOOKED, IT MAKES IT LOOK TALLER, BUT IT IS A PRETTY, UH, RENDERING OF, OF A NICE BUILDING.
I REALLY DIDN'T LIKE 'EM PUTTING A CAR IN THERE BECAUSE REALLY THIS IS A STORAGE BUILDING.
I, AND IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE AT ALL.
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IT.AND TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY RENT ON ALL THAT STUFF.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES SIR.
CHRIS, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THIS, YOU LOOKED AT WHAT WAS AVAILABLE FROM THIS PARTICULAR, UH, COMPANY, I GUESS THAT BUILDS THESE THINGS.
UM, WAS THERE NOTHING THAT WOULD NOT HA REQUIRE VARIANCES FROM THIS COMPANY? OR WEREN'T THERE OTHER COMPANIES THAT COULD PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE A, DOESN'T NEED A VARIANCE.
THEY ALL WOULD'VE PROVIDED, UH, COMPROMISES THAT, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M LOOKING FOR MAXIMUM UTILITY, BUT YET STAYING WITHIN, UH, WHAT THE PROVIDER COULD, COULD GIVE ME FOR THE, FOR THE PRICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU START CHANGING THE SIZES OF THE BUILDING, THEN THEY HAVE TO CUT DOWN PANELS AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE THAT THEY HAVE, ALL THE PANELS ARE STOCKED, THEY BOLT TOGETHER, ALL THE SEAMS ARE TIGHT.
UH, IT ENDS UP BEING A WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDING.
WHEREAS IF YOU START CUSTOMIZING THE SIZES, THEN THAT'S ALL CRAFT WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
ADDITIONAL LABOR AND, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.
I I, I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT FROM A SINGLE PROVIDER.
WERE THERE NO OTHER PROVIDERS, UM, THAT YOU CONSIDERED? I, I SHOPPED A SINGLE PROVIDER, UH, ON THE BASIS OF THEIR WORK.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT I CAME UP WITH.
SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE? YES, GO AHEAD.
IN, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, SO THE, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE BUILDING AREN'T THE ISSUE, RIGHT? WELL, THERE'S TWO FOOT, IT'S THE PLACEMENT EXCEPT FROM 12 FOOT, WELL, THERE'S TWO AND, AND WE CAN CALL, UH, AARON BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S A HEIGHT FROM FROM 12 FOOT TO 14 FOOT, WHICH IS 14 FOOT.
AND I THINK THAT THE VARIANCE OF HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE FENCE.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
UH, I THINK, UH, THE FROM, THERE'S THREE ON THE, ON THE BOARD THERE, IT MENTIONS MINIMUM REAR, WELL DENSITY IS, DENSITY IS ANOTHER THING AS 'CAUSE OF THE SIZE, UH, THE DENSITY, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LOT SIZE VERSUS HIS HOUSE SIZE.
AND WE CAN COME BACK AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN THAT WHEN, WHEN SHE'S DONE, UH, AND HE CAN, HE CAN COME BACK AND, AND REBUTTAL IT HERE IN A SECOND.
SO IF YOU WANNA STEP BACK A SE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM? I DO HAVE YOU GO AHEAD.
SO YOU ARE WANTING 17 FOOT TALL WALLS, CORRECT? NO, 14.
THE PEAK, ACTUALLY THE 17 FEET IS WITHIN CODE.
THE, THE 17 FEET IS TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF.
THE WALL HEIGHT IS THE SIDEWALL HEIGHT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON.
UM, AND SO, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBOR HERE THAT TO SPEAK OF 'CAUSE RIGHT.
'CAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY, UM, THINGS THERE'S NOBODY AGAINST.
THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT, IS THAT A SWIMMING POOL THAT'S IN THIS, IN THIS, IN THIS PICTURE.
I DID HAVE A POOL AT ONE POINT IN TIME WHEN IT COSTS MORE TO, UH, FIX IT.
I MEAN YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
MY CONCERN WOULD BE, OH, IF WE APPROVE A HEIGHT, DOES THAT, I MEAN THESE ARE THINGS I THINK ABOUT, I'M SORRY, EAST AND WEST WHERE THE SUN COMES, WHERE IT DOESN'T, DOES IT PUT HIM IN SHADE ALL DAY LONG? DOES IT NOT, DOES IT? WHAT? YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBOR'S NOT HERE, SO I'M ASSUMING HE'S OKAY WITH IT AND HE GOT A NOTICE.
SO, UM, BECAUSE AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW, HEIGHT OF A BUILDING CAN AFFECT HOW LONG YOU CAN GARDEN.
THE, UH, THE, THERE'S 30 FOOT TREES ON HIS OTHER SIDE OF HIS OKAY.
SO HE'S GOT A LOT MORE PROBLEM WITH SHADE FROM THE STREETS.
IF YOU WANNA JUST STAND BACK A SECOND.
THERE'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR AARON, AND THEN WE, WE EVEN THAT WAY IF YOU WANNA REBUTTAL OR HAVE ANYTHING OTHER QUESTIONS, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU REAL QUICK.
YOU HAD A QUESTION? NO, MY QUESTION WASN'T FOR AARON.
MY QUESTION WAS BASING, BUT YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT ALL THE THREE VARIS EXPLAINED? NO, NO, MY CONCERN WAS, HE, HIS QUESTION WAS, COULD YOU NOT FIND ANOTHER VENDOR THAT COULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A BUILDING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE CODE? MY QUESTION, MY CONCERN WAS THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE VARIANCE THAT HE'S, THAT THAT'S ADDRESSING THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL, THAT REST OF THEM IS BASICALLY PROXIMITY ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT ALL I WOULD SAY.
BUT CAN I ASK AARON A QUESTION THEN? YES.
SO WE GOT MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT, 12 FEET, THAT IS, AND HE'S ASKING FOR 14.
THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS IN THAT BIGGER, SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN 9 34 AS A MAX AND WE HAVE NINE 60 HERE.
AND THAT, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES HE IS REQUESTING TO, OKAY.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE VARIANCE, IT'S TWO REGARDING THAT AND THE OTHER.
IS THAT HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE, TO THE REAR.
AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT.
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OKAY.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, SIR? NO, SIR.
ANY, ANYBODY ELSE HERE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS? ALRIGHT.
ANYBODY HERE? ANYBODY HERE WANT TO DISCUSS OR TALK ABOUT ON MY RIGHT OR LEFT? HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT? ALRIGHT, IN THAT CASE THEN WE WILL UH, WE ARE HERE FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND APPROVE.
ITEM AGENDA 11, ZBA 25 0 7 0 0 5 8.
BY WHO? WHO'S SECOND? UH, SECOND BY KIMBERLY.
SHE WAS A LITTLE BIT, I HEARD HER VOICE A LITTLE LOUDER HERE.
YOU GOTTA BE LOUDER ON THIS BOARD.
ALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
MR. CHRISTOPHER'S OPPOSED? ALL THE REST, ALL THE OTHER EIGHT ARE FOUR.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE VOTE OF EIGHT TO ONE.
[ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
ALRIGHT, NOW THAT CONCLUDES THE NORMAL PART OF OUR, OUR BUSINESS.NOW WE WILL BE ELECTING, UH, CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON.
WE WILL FIRST ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIRPERSON.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MS. KIMBERLY FOR THE CHAIR.
WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR THE CHAIR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UM, SO I THINK AT THE PNZ MEETING WE WAITED UNTIL UM, WE HAD ENOUGH NOMINATIONS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR ANY OTHER MEMBERS OTHER THAN KIMBERLY? I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF MISUNDERSTANDING.
UM, I THINK WE CAN TAKE VOTES ONCE THAT'S DONE, BUT WE WANNA CONFIRM THAT THERE'S NO OTHER NOMINATION FOR CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO, I KNOW I'M NEW, BUT UM, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DAVID.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT NOMINATION? MM-HMM
AND DO Y'ALL BOTH ACCEPT THE NOMINATIONS? I ACCEPT.
AND SO THEN WE WOULD TAKE THE NOMINATIONS.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, WE WOULD TAKE THEM IN ORDER THAT THEY WERE SUBMITTED.
SO WE WOULD FIRST CONSIDER, UM, KIMBERLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE THEM.
WE HAVE A NOMINEE ON THE FLOOR FOR KIMBERLY.
AND SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SO KIMBERLY HAS THE NOMINATION FOR CHAIRMAN.
UM, SO NOW THEN WE'LL HAVE A NOMINATION FOR I GUESS, UH, VICE CHAIR.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY, IN THAT CASE THERE'LL BE CLOSED OR WE VOTE ALL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR DAVID BAKER? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALRIGHT, THAT WAS NINE TO NOTHING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, NOW IT COMES DOWN TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
UH, ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WANNA COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S MEETING? NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.
OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, DO WE ALSO VOTE FOR A SECRETARY? NOT FOR ZBA, NOT FOR ZBA.
IT'S FOR THE PCA PLANNING AND ZONING.
UH, WE NOW ARE GONNA BE ADJOURNED.
AND WE'LL SEE Y'ALL NEXT TIME.
AND MR. BAKER, IF YOU WILL HOLD TIGHT SINCE YOU WERE THE CHAIR FOR THIS MEETING, WE HAVE SOME ORDERS FOR YOU TO SIGN.