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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE
[Call to Order]
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 14TH, 2025.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOW A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM.
ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO SPEAK OF AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT AND REQUEST A SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL LOOP MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORA AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
HERE, LET THE REVEREND FLED THAT ALL MEMBERS OF, EXCEPT FOR TODD CHAPMAN AND, UM, JAMIE MENDEZ.
BUT I DIDN'T, I HADN'T PUSHED THAT BUTTON.
DO I HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN? WE WERE NOT, WE WERE NOT PICKING UP ON AUDIO.
WE WERE NOT PICKING UP ON AUDIO.
UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.
IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU CONVENED A MEETING.
AND NOW WE WILL HAVE, UH, JOHN COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO WILL DO THE INVOCATION.
AND AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN WILL LEAD US TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN THE US AND TEXAS FLAT.
YOU HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE BLESS US THIS EVENING AS WE CONSIDER DELIBERATIONS OF THE CITY AND WE CONSIDER AND EXECUTE THE BUSINESS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, OF ITS CITIZENS, ITS RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS.
WE ALSO ASK YOU AT THIS, UH, SPECIAL TIME FOR OUR FELLOW TEXANS IN VILLE.
ALL THOSE THAT ARE, UH, GOING THROUGH THAT UNBEARABLE LOSS, WHICH YOU, UH, COMFORT THEM IN.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
VERY GOOD IMPROVISING ON THAT ONE.
IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
THE SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME.
CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE DO NOT FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSIDERATION IS APPRO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THERE'S ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JUNE 23RD, 2025 PNZ MEETING.
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE I'D REMEMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE MINUTES OF JUNE 23RD OF THIS YEAR.
I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT.
I MEAN THE, THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER FKO.
IT IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN.
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IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.[2. STP-25-05-0016 - Site Plan - Duncan Perry Industrial (City Council 1 and 5). Site Plan for one industrial warehouse on 13.88 acres. Tract 1 out of the P. H. Ford Survey, Abstract No. 544, and Tract 1 out of the P. H. Ford Survey, Abstract No. 1713, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas and Tarrant Counties, Texas, zoned PD-461, partially within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1200 Duncan Perry Rd and 2401 W Tarrant Rd]
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.THE ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A SITE PLAN, STP 2 5 0 5 0 0 1 6 A DUNCAN PERRY INDUSTRIAL LOCATED AT 1200 DUNCAN PERRY ROAD, CITY COUNCIL OF DISTRICT ONE AND FIVE.
SO THIS IS A, UM, SITE PLAN TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH A RECENT ZONE CHANGE THAT WAS APPROVED TO ALLOW FOR A CONSTRUCTION OF A SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING AT THE CURRENT LOCATION.
SO AS AN AREA YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS IS LOCATED GENERALLY 1 61, UM, AND I 30 SOUTH OF THAT.
SO AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UM, THEY DID UPDATE THE, UM, DRIVEWAY PER OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, MOST DENSITY CITY DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT.
THEY ARE REQUESTING A PARKING VARIANCE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL.
THEY ARE MEETING ALL THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT EXCEPT FOR THE SCREENING WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCES.
THE BILLING ELEVATION COMPLIES WITH THE, UH, APPENDIX X STANDARD AS SHOWN.
SO HERE ARE THE SUMMARIES OF THE VARIANCES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
ONE, THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE MAXIMUM PARKING.
TYPICALLY PARKING ARE CALCULATED BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGES.
THEN IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THEN DISTRICT, THEY CAN INCREASE 15% OF THE MAXIMUM PARKING BASED ON WHAT THE REQUIRED PARKING IS.
WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ACTUALLY EXCEED THAT MAXIMUM.
SO THEY'RE ASKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 105 VEHICLE PARKING SPACES, UM, EXCEEDING THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM OF 57 PARKING SPACES AGAINST THAT FIELDS THAT THIS VARIANCE IS COMING FORTH.
ONLY BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY ASSUME VERY SMALL AREA OF OFFICE AREAS.
AND IF THEY FIND A TENANT THAT ACTUALLY HAS MORE OFFICE OPERATION THAN WAREHOUSE, THIS ACTUALLY MAY HELP THEM, UH, FIND MORE BROADER, UH, TENANTS FOR THEIR POTENTIAL BUILDINGS.
SO STAFF DOES NOT OPPOSE, UM, SCREENING VARIANCES.
WE WANTED TO REPEAT THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING CASE, HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE JUST WANNA TAKE IT AS IT WAS SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO HEAR THE APPLICANT ONCE AGAIN.
SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
UM, AND LET ME SHARE THIS SLIDES WITH YOU SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARER.
SO CURRENTLY, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY, UM, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO THE SOUTH AND ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST, WITH EXCEPTION OF THE AREAS THAT ARE PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
WE DID GIVE THEM A VARIANCE TO, UH, PUT ROT IRON AND SO WE'RE NEEDED AND NOT PUT ANY FENCES WHERE THEY'RE PROHIBITED.
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO EITHER USE THE RETAINING WALL, WHICH MAY RANGE FROM FIVE FEET ALL THE WAY TO 15 FEET, WHICH IS, UM, KIND OF FINISHING CLOSER TO THE FINAL DESIGN TO BE ABLE TO EITHER USE THAT AS A SCREENING METHOD OR MAYBE POSSIBLY PUT A ADDITIONAL ROT IRON FENCE ON TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL.
ANOTHER REQUEST THAT THEY'RE ASKING IS THAT INSTEAD OF CONSTRUCTING A MASONRY SCREENING WALL, THEY WOULD LIKE TO, ONE, CONSTRUCT THE ROT IRON FENCES, BUT ALSO TWO, STOP IT JUST ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE.
STOP, UH, POURING THE PAVEMENT.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA EXTEND IT ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.
SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY DO HAVE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL GRADE DIFFERENCES IN THIS AREA.
AND THEY DO HAVE SOME AREAS IN FLOOD PLAIN.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 30 TO 40, UH, GRADE CHANGES VARIOUS FORM.
SO HERE IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AGAIN, THESE, UM, SCREENING VARIANCES WERE INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING CONSIDERATION.
HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE ZONING APPROVAL.
SO STAFF WANTED TO REPEAT WHAT WAS IN THE PD FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
SO THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
ONE IS THAT A AMAZINGLY SCREENING WALL SHALL BE PROVIDED IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR UDC AND A ROT IRON DENSE TO THE EAST.
UM, MAYBE SUBSTITUTED FOR A ROT IRON WITH LIVE SCREENING, UH, PER, UM, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S REVIEW BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, LOCATION.
THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HE DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.
IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER? OH, SORRY.
UM, SO CAN YOU TELL ME IF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT, THE, DO THEY HAVE ANY FENCING OF THEIR OWN? I DID NOT VERIFY THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY, I DID SEE THE STREET VIEW.
THEY BOTH HAVE A ROT IRON FENCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
THEY'RE BOTH GATED COMMUNITIES.
SO WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A, IF, IF, IF STAFF OR IF THE CITY HAD ITS PREFERENCE, WE WOULD HAVE A MASONRY WALL ABUTTING A WROUGHT IRON THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO LIKELY THAT'S WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IF THE VARIANCES
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ARE NOT APPROVED.SO AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON THAT STAFF WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING CONSIDERATION IS BECAUSE OF RECENT, HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT NEARBY WAREHOUSES HAVING NOISE ISSUES.
SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING NOISE STUDY FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
BUT WE WANTED TO PUT, BECAUSE IT'S THE REQUIREMENT, WE PRESENTED THE VARIANCE TO THESE, UM, CITY COUNCIL WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF MEETING OUR COMPLIANCE.
THEY DID NOT APPROVE THEIR REQUEST FOR SCREENING VARIANCES.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TAKING THE BACK, THE RECOMMENDATION TO COMPLY WITH OUR STANDARD.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION YES, MA'AM.
IS LIVE, UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED ON THE WR IRON LIVE SOMETHING LIVE SCREENING.
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET GROWTH UPON THE WR IRON OR WHAT IS THAT? SO THAT'S ONLY FOR THE FLOOD CLINIC AREA.
SO IF YOU, IF THEY WERE TO CONSTRUCT, UH, WATER ROT, IRON, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SOLID WALL.
'CAUSE THEY, THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MASON NEW WALL SCREENING WALL.
SO TYPICALLY WHEN THEY HAVE A WR IRON WITH LIVE SCREENING, IT ADDS THAT LAYER OF, UH, SO IS LIVE SCREENING PLANTS.
THEY ARE TALL SHRUBS, YOU THAT ARE NOT TREES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I, OF COURSE.
SO IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IF WE VOTED ON IT, WELL ACTUALLY LET ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
SO IF WE VOTED ON IT, AS YOU HAVE STATED MM-HMM
THERE'LL BE A MASONRY WALL, AND ON THE EASTERN SIDE, THERE'LL BE A MASONRY WALL EXCEPT FOR WHERE THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN.
THAT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AND WHEN THERE, WHERE THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN MM-HMM
THERE'LL BE A BROAD IRON WALL AND LIGHT SCREEN ONLY OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODWAY.
I THINK THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS THAT BOTH COMMISSIONERS ASK.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SCREEN WHERE IT SHOWS THE, UH, THE, THE ACTUAL, UH, THE VERY FIRST ONE WITH THE, THE OUTLINE? THAT ONE? THIS ONE? NO, THE OTHER ONE THAT DID SHOW WHERE THE, THAT THE BREAK IN THE, UM, UH, THE ROD IRON FENCE.
SO DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER OWN ALL OF THAT LAND UP TO ALL OF THAT GREEN UP THERE? DO THEY OWN ALL OF THAT? SO THIS, HERE WHERE YOU SEE THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE UTILITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE POWER LINES GO THROUGH.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY WERE REQUESTING THAT VARIANCE SAYING, HEY, WE FEEL THAT WE'RE SUFFICIENTLY DISTANCED AWAY FROM THESE RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, AGAIN, STAFF IS REPEATING THIS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT APPROVED DURING THE ZONING CONSIDERATION.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT.
WELL, I THINK COMMISSIONER MAD MADE A VERY GOOD PUNT.
THAT BECAUSE IF, IF THEY, IF THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE, THERE WASN'T A ROD EYE ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD SAY WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
MY CORRECTION ACTUALLY, NOW LOOKING AT THIS, I WAS INCORRECT.
THEY ACTUALLY BUILT THE FENCES ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE EAST MILL WHERE THEY, THE CURRENT, SO WHAT LOOKS LIKE A TOWN HOME? IT'S ACTUALLY A RENTAL PROPERTY WHEN I SEARCHED ON GOOGLE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE A TOWN HOME SETTING, BUT I BELIEVE THOSE ARE, THEY'RE CALLING THEMSELVES AN APARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE A GATED, THEY'RE A GATED COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE, UH, THAT RIGHT IRON FENCE IS CONTINUING ON BACK OF THOSE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY'RE PROPERTY ON IT.
SO WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE BETWEEN THE, UH, FENCE AND THE RESIDENCE? WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS PROBABLY ABOUT LIKE 10, 20 FEET.
BUT FROM THE FENCE TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, THERE'S A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE WHERE THEY HAVE A TALL POWER.
IT'S KIND OF HARD, HARD TO TELL THERE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANKS JIM.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM TYLER THOMAS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
UM, ANY OF THE SPEAKERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING TO THE PODIUM, WE ARE RECORDING AND THAT WILL MICROPHONE WILL PICK UP YOUR LIST.
MY NAME IS TYLER THOMAS OF DALLAS, TEXAS.
I'M REPRESENTING TRIMONT GROUP.
WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
1 1 0 3 2 ROSSER ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS, 7 5 2 2 9.
THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UH, I REPRESENT TRIMONT AND OVERSEE ALL COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR TRIMONT, WHICH IS A, UH, LOCALLY OWNED AND PRIVATELY HELD, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT FIRM HERE IN DALLAS.
I WANNA REAL QUICK, JUST BRIEFLY REFRESH Y'ALL'S MEMORY ON OUR PROJECT AND THEN EXPLAIN REALLY WHAT AND WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THIS EVENING.
UM, AS, AS JUNE MENTIONED, UH, THIS WAS A RECENT ZONING PD, UM, BACK IN FEBRUARY
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THAT PNZ UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IN, UH, MARCH.UH, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN FULL STEAM AHEAD ON OUR STUDIES, OUR PLANS, UM, AND REALLY BEFORE DIVING INTO THIS, JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED AND IS, UH, REALLY FOR A, A LITANY OF REASONS.
UH, IT, IT IS A VERY CHALLENGING AND COMPLEX SITE, UM, DUE TO THE FLOODPLAIN, THE TOPO CHALLENGES, UH, THAT JUNE JUST MENTIONED.
UH, THERE'S ALSO AN ACTIVE SEWER LINE RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THROUGH FROM TARRANT, UH, ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS, UH, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE CITY SINCE OCTOBER TO RELOCATE AROUND OUR STRUCTURE.
SO, UM, THIS SITE IS LOCATED, UH, SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF TARRANT ROAD AND DUNCAN PERRY, IT'S A 14 ACRE SITE.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN 50% OF THAT, UH, THAT'LL BE JUST SHY OF SEVEN ACRES DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE.
UH, BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, WE DO, UH, WE, WE DO OWN, OR WE WILL OWN THE LAND ALL THE WAY UP TO TARRANT ROAD, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING A SHALLOW BAY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROJECT.
UM, WE ARE FOCUSED ON A SHALLOW BAY DESIGN.
UM, THAT IS REALLY WHAT SHALLOW BAY MEANS IS, IS SHALLOWER BUILDINGS, SMALLER BUILDINGS, REALLY ACCOMMODATING SMALLER USERS.
I WOULD CALL IT LOCAL REGIONAL USERS.
UM, MORE LAST MILE USERS, UH, QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER BIG BOX DISTRIBUTION, UM, OF THE DHLS OR THE AMAZONS OF THE WORLD.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING 103,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UH, OF WHICH WE EXPECT TO ACCOMMODATE THREE TO FOUR TENANTS IN THIS PROJECT.
UM, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF OUR PROJECT IS OUR HIGHER PARKING RATIO.
UM, WE CERTAINLY CANNOT FORECAST, UH, HOW, WHAT THE HEADCOUNT, EMPLOYEE HEADCOUNT, AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE OF FUTURE TENANTS.
BUT TYPICALLY WE SEE THESE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BEING TWO TO THREE TIMES HIGHER THAN DISTRIBUTION FAC, FACILITIES, UM, DUE TO, YOU KNOW, ASSEMBLY AND MANUFACTURING, MILL WORKING TRADES, THOSE TYPE OF USERS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 20, 30 EMPLOYEES IN A SPACE RATHER THAN FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX.
SO, UM, MOVING ON TO OUR SITE PLAN HERE.
UH, REALLY TWO THINGS I JUST WANNA POINT OUT REAL QUICKLY IS THE ORIENTATION AND DESIGN OF OUR BUILDING, AND THEN THE PARKING AGAIN.
SO REALLY WORKING WITH STAFF AND OUR, OUR, UH, DESIGN TEAM.
WE'VE FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS ANGLED AWAY FROM ANY ADJACENT MULTIFAMILY.
THIS PLAN IS SHOWING NORTH AND FACING NORTH, UH, WITH THE TRUCK COURT FACING THE FLOODPLAIN, AS WELL AS ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, WE HAVE PRESENTED A NOISE STUDY THAT IS COL THAT HAS COME IN WELL BELOW THE DECIBEL REQUIREMENTS, UM, UH, FOR THE DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME, UH, USE THAT WE ARE, UH, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED AS.
UM, THE SECOND PART WAS PARKING, AGAIN, CUSTOMARY AND MORE FLEX BUILDINGS AND FLEX SMALLER USERS.
UM, I WOULD SAY THIS PARKING RATIO BEING REALLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE, UH, UH, PROJECT IS TWO TO THREE TIMES MORE THAN, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE TYPICALLY IN JUST DISTRIBUTION FOCUSED FACILITIES.
SO, REAL QUICKLY HERE, THIS IS JUST CONCEPT ELEVATIONS.
UM, MOST IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THE WEST AND EAST ELEVATION.
YOU'LL SEE THE BUILDING, UH, AS WELL AS A, UH, UH, SCREENING WALL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON BOTH THE DUNCAN PERRY SIDE AS WELL AS THE EASTERN PORTION THAT FACES THE EASEMENT, AND THEN THE TOWN HOME APARTMENTS.
HERE'S JUST A COUPLE ADDITIONAL CONCEPT RENDERINGS.
THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING FROM DUNCAN PERRY SHOWS THE FACADE THAT WILL BE FACING THE, UH, UH, THE SOUTHERN, UH, APARTMENTS, THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS.
SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY IS, IS TWO VARIANCES.
A REQUEST IS A SCREENING VARIANCE AND A PARKING VARIANCE.
SO ON THE SCREENING ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT A RETAINING WALL OR WROUGHT IRON FENCE BE REQUIRED IN LIEU OF MASON RESCREENING.
UM, IN REALITY, THAT WOULD JUST BE A RETAINING WALL TODAY BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE FIGURED OUR CUT FILL AND OUR TOPO IS FINALIZED.
AND SO WE KNOW WHAT THESE HEIGHTS ARE TODAY, AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE HIGHER THAN THE MASONRY WALL THAT IS REQUIRED PER CODE, UH, WHICH IS SIX FEET.
SO SOUTHERN BORDER WE'RE PROPOSING A RETAINING WALL, A WROUGHT IRON FENCE, WHICH IN REALITY GOING TO BE A RETAINING WALL EASTERN BORDER, A WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALONG THE PAVED PORTION OF THE SITE AND THE PARKING AREAS.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE AND THE FLOODPLAIN, WHERE THAT'S NOT DEVELOPABLE, DEVELOPABLE WOULD HAVE NO SCREENING OR FENCING REQUIREMENTS.
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AND THIS GETS BACK TO US BUILDING ON LESS THAN 50% OF THE SITE.UH, REALLY THE REASON WE'RE ASKING THESE TWO ITEMS IS FROM A FEASIBILITY STANDPOINT, IT'S FROM A BUILDING LAYOUT, IT'S FROM A MARKET DEMAND, AND IT'S FROM A COST STANDPOINT.
UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SITE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE HERE, AS JUNE MENTIONED, THERE'S OVER A THOUSAND FEET OF BORDER, UH, ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY HERE.
611 FEET OF THAT WILL BE UNDEVELOPED AND RAW LAND, UH, MOST OF WHICH IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, OUR PROJECT WILL ONLY BORDER ABOUT 400 FEET HERE.
SO JUST TO POINT THIS OUT HERE, WE'LL BACK UP.
SO THIS IS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A COLOR MONTAGE, BUT, UH, RIGHT HERE YOU GOT THE A HUNDRED FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT DIRECTLY ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, A DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT, WE HAVE AN EIGHT TO 15 FOOT SCREENING WALL.
SO ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE, WE ARE ANTICIPATING EIGHT TO 15 FEET OF RETAINING WALLS IN ITSELF, ALREADY BELOW GRADE.
CAN YOU INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT SIZE? YEAH.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN, I THINK I CAN DO THIS.
SO, ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE, OF THE 400 FEET, ROUGHLY THAT WE WILL BE DEVELOPING AND PAVING, THERE IS A HUNDRED FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT THAN A WROUGHT IRON FENCE AND A TOWN HOME FOR RENT DEVELOPMENT.
OF THAT 400 FEET, WE WILL BE BUILDING EIGHT TO 15 FOOT RETAINING WALLS, MEANING REALLY THE ADDITION OF A MASONRY SCREENING WALL OR ADDITIONING SCREENING, I WOULD ARGUE WOULDN'T, UH, IMPACT OR MAKE A DIFFERENCE ULTIMATELY WHAT THOSE GROUPS ARE SEEING, BECAUSE WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UH, THE GRADES WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHERE OUR PARKING WILL BE AND WHERE THE ENTRIES TO THESE BUILDINGS WILL BE.
ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING, OUR RETAINING WALL IS ANTICIPATED TO BE EIGHT TO 11 FEET TALL.
ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, THERE IS, I'M SORRY, THIS IS POPPING UP HERE, BUT THERE IS AN EXISTING WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS.
AS YOU SEE AN ORANGE RIGHT HERE LISTED THAT WOULD BE ON TOP OF OUR RETAINING WALL.
SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING EIGHT TO 11 FOOT IN RETAINING WALLS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER, PLUS THE WROUGHT IRON FENCES IN PLACE.
THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY LANDSCAPING, WHICH THERE ARE TREES AND SHRUBS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
AND WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE.
SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, I WANNA SHOW YOU THE SIDELINE STUDY.
SO THIS WOULD BE, IF I'M STANDING IN DUNCAN PERRY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LOOKING IN TO THE RIGHT OVER HERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS, THEIR PARKING LOT, THEIR WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
AND THEN THIS SPOT GRADE HERE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE IS 10 FEET.
WELL OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE CARS, IN THE PARKING LOT, THE PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOT.
I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT VISUALIZATION JUST TO SEE HOW THE RETAINING WALL, I WOULD ARGUE EVEN DOES A BETTER JOB OF CUTTING OUT THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING AND IMPROVING THE SIDELINES FOR THESE ADJACENT, UH, UH, THESE ADJACENT, UH, APARTMENT, UH, RENTERS.
LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO HIT ON, UM, LASTLY, I JUST WANNA HIT ON REALLY THE FLIGHT TO QUALITY THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN FEBRUARY.
UM, NGSW ONE OF THE LARGEST MARKETS IN D-S-W-D-F-W, THERE IS AN EXTREME LIMITED AND LACK OF SUPPLY OF THE TYPE OF PRODUCT WE'RE BUILDING.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THIS IS AMPLE PARKING, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND IS A REQUEST.
AND OF THE 125 MILLION SQUARE FEET IN GSW, THERE IS ONLY 2.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF THIS PRODUCT ON THE GROUND TODAY THAT IS COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF VINTAGE CLEAR HEIGHT, UH, AND EFFICIENCIES, UH, INCLUDING PARKING IN THAT.
SO OVER 99% OF THE PRODUCT TODAY IN GS W'S MARKET IS OCCUPIED AND IT'S OCCUPIED WITH THESE TYPES OF USERS, ALL OF WHICH ARE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, ALL OF WHICH ARE IN SIMILAR BUILDINGS WITH INCREASED PARKING RATIOS AND IN SIMILAR SIZES, SIMILAR CLEAR HEIGHTS, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, OUR REQUEST IS THESE VARIANCES TO ASSIST WITH REALLY THE MARKET DEMAND, THE FEASIBILITY FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE AND THE BUILDING LAYOUT OF THIS PROJECT.
AND OUR FULL INTENT IS TO BREAK GROUND IN THE NEXT 75 TO 90 DAYS IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT BUDGET.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TENANTS IN MIND YET? UM, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY
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IN MIND.UM, WE'VE TALKED TO A FEW THAT ARE OUT IN THE MARKET, BUT MOST OF THOSE THAT ARE OUT IN THE MARKET TODAY WOULD NEED TO BE IN BY Q1 OF NEXT YEAR AND A DEVELOPMENT, IF WE WERE TO BREAK GROUND, SAY SEPTEMBER 30TH, OCTOBER 1ST, THIS LIKELY WOULDN'T DEVELOP IN OR DELIVER UNTIL PROBABLY JULY AUGUST TIMEFRAME OF NEXT YEAR.
SO LET'S JUST CHECK TO SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY FENCING PLANNED FOR THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? UM, I'M THINKING FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT FOR YOUR PROPERTY, WE DO NOT TODAY.
UM, IT WOULD BE VERY EASILY JUST BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, AND THE RAILING THERE.
I MEAN, THE BRIDGE THAT COMES THERE AND TO EXTEND FENCING OFF THAT WE DO NOT HAVE IT PROPOSED TODAY.
BUT, UM, IT, IT'S COMMON IN THOSE INSTANCES THAT A TENANT COMES ALONG, A BUSINESS SAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND INSTALL IT, OR WE REQUEST THE DEVELOPER AND OWNER TO INSTALL IT.
AND SO CURRENTLY, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR REQUEST, SO NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE CUTTING OUT THE DIRT, THE EARTH, SO THAT YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY CREATING AN EIGHT TO 10 OR 11 FOOT RETAINING WALL, UM, ON THE EAST AND THE SOUTH BORDERS.
SO YOUR BUILDING IS GONNA BE AT LEAST PROBABLY THAT EIGHT TO 10 FEET BELOW THE CURRENT GRADE, RIGHT? AT, AT MINIMUM EIGHT TO 15 FEET.
IT'S EIGHT TO 11 FEET ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER, EIGHT TO 15 ON THE EAST.
AND SO YOU ARE SAYING NOW, DESPITE WHAT, WHAT STAFF HAS PUT IN THE PACKET THAT NO FENCING, NOT EVEN NO MASONRY, NO WR IRON YOU FEEL IS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THAT RETAINING WALL SITUATION ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE? I WOULD SAY, UM, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH PUTTING IN ROD IRON ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, JUST NOT ALL THE WAY UP ABOVE, BUT PREFERABLY NOT ALL THE WAY UP.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MASONRY WALL, YOU KNOW THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY'S NEARLY 800 LINEAR FEET, RIGHT? THE SOUTHERN BORDER, THE, THE, THE EASTERN BORDER'S OVER A THOUSAND MM-HMM
YOU'RE TALKING, UH, A WALL THAT'S GONNA COST AN EXCESS OF $750,000.
WELL, AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND YOUR, YOUR FLOODPLAIN AND THOSE, UH, THOSE COLUMNS HAVE A TENDENCY TO BUCK AND JUMP AND STUFF OVER THE YEARS.
SO THAT'S OKAY WITH THE GRADE ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, WE HAVE OVER A, JUST ON THE DEVELOPER PORTION, WE HAVE OVER 30 FEET OF VARIANCE FROM ONE END OF THE SITE TO THE NEXT MM-HMM
UM, SO, UH, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO, BUT THE MASONRY WALL IS THE ONE THAT IS EXTREMELY PUNITIVE.
UH, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT ADDS ANYTHING FROM A VALUE, UH, AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS WITH THE WE.
IT, I WOULD NOT BE UP HERE IF THESE WERE ONE TO TWO FOOT RETAINING WALLS.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS, UH, UH, UH, FKO AND COMMISSIONER ARI, THIS IS YOUR AREA BOTH, ISN'T IT? BOTH ONE AND FIVE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? YES, MA'AM.
SO WE, WE NEED TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY INPUT.
DO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? SO, YES, MR. THOMAS, COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO YOUR LINE OF SIGHT? CERTAINLY.
SO WHERE YOUR CURSOR IS MM-HMM
AM I LOOKING NORTH OR AM I LOOKING SOUTH? YOU, THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY EAST.
IF I'M STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF DUNCAN PERRY ROAD, I AM STARING EAST TO OUR DEVELOPMENT, THE WEST SIDE OF OUR BUILDING HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF IN THAT NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS.
SO YOU WERE LOOKING WHAT SIDE IS THE SOUTH? THE LEFT SIDE IS, YEAH.
THE RIGHT SIDE WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF US.
THE THE LEFT SIDE IS THE NORTH.
A LITTLE PERSON NEXT TO THE APARTMENT IS LOOKING.
AND, AND SO DO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YOUR, THE, THE WAREHOUSE WILL BE BUILT, YOU'RE GONNA EXCAVATE GRADE TO EVEN BELOW GRADE.
WELL, WE, WE CALL IT CUT FILL, WHETHER WE HAVE TO BRING IN DIRT OR ULTIMATELY EXCAVATE AND PULL OUT DIRT.
THIS SITE, GIVEN THE GRADES, WE WILL BE HAVING TO PULL OUT DIRT ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE, UM, BUSINESSES WON'T BE ABLE TO ENTER FROM THE STREET UNLESS THAT IS A, TYPICALLY LIKE A TWO TO 3% DROP A RISE IN GRADE.
SO, UM, USING THIS AS A EXAMPLE, WHERE DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE, UH, MASONRY WALL TO GO, WHICH YOU COULD USE YOUR CURSOR? SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE MASONRY WALL HIGHLIGHTED.
SO YOU SEE OUR PARKING HERE ON BOTH SIDES.
THEY HAVE DUAL-SIDED PARKING ON THE SUGAR CREEK APARTMENTS.
THIS RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE MASONRY WALL, WHICH AT THIS SPOT GRADE HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF OUR SITE, THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 10 FOOT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE RETAINING WALL THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE THERE? CORRECT.
YOU KEPT SAYING, AND IT, IT WORDED ME A LITTLE BIT, YOU SAID IN REALITY YOU SAY IT COULD BE WR IRON OR RETAINING WALL IN THE SOUTH, BUT YOU SAID IN REALITY RETAINING WALL.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST GET RID OF THE RAW IRON WE CAN.
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BEFORE WE HAD THE TOPO AND HAD BASICALLY CALL IT OUR DIRT WORK FINALIZED, WHICH HAS JUST COME TO LIGHT IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.AND, AND JUST A, I WANT ADDED CLARIFICATION.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S BURDENS.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT IN YOUR BURDENS.
SO, UM, AND THEN ON THE EASTERN SIDE, YES, THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE A CUT AND FILL TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT BELOW GRAY WITH YOUR FACILITY AS WELL.
THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE THE, THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE RETAINING WALL WILL BE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER HERE, UM, ROUGHLY WHERE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED, UM, EIGHT TO 15 FEET IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THIS RETAINING WALL TO BE, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS RED ARROW.
SO THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 420 FEET.
SO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 420 FEET THAT ABUTS A UTILITY EASEMENT.
WILL THERE BE ANY FENCING OR ANYTHING ON TOP OF THAT? BETWEEN WALL? WHAT WE PROPOSED IS PUTTING WROUGHT IRON ON TOP OF THAT, UH, ON THE EASTERN PORTION SINCE THERE IS NO FENCING IN PLACE.
AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PUTTING ANYTHING IN, BUT YOU HAVE THE 611 KEYS, THE UNITS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
OUR REQUEST IS TO NOT HAVE ANY FENCING THROUGHOUT THE UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND THE FLOODPLAIN OF THAT STARTS ROUGHLY ABOUT HALFWAY, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BLUE ARROW.
AND THERE'S NO FENCING THERE NOW, RIGHT THERE, THERE IS NO FENCING, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE PROPERTY.
THE ONLY EXISTING FENCING TODAY MM-HMM
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THAT? JUST ONE LAST CLARIFY POINT.
SO FROM THE EASTERN SIDE, ON THE EASTERN SIDE THAT YOU HAVE DEPICTED IN, BRAD, IF YOU DON'T PUT A WALL OF SOME KIND WROUGHT IRON OR MASONRY, IT'LL BE LIKE AN EIGHT TO 15 FOOT CLIFF THAT SOME PEOPLE'S AN EASEMENT COULD GO DOWN INTO.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS, UM, PRECISELY WHY WE BELIEVE THE EAST SIDE DOES NEED A WR IRON FENCE.
AND WE ALSO WOULD CONFORM WITH THE SOUTHERN BORDER HAVING A WR IRON FENCE ABOVE OUR RETAINING WALL.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THIS? IS THIS PART OF YOUR AREA AS WELL? THIS, GO AHEAD.
WHEN YOU LEAVE, COULD YOU PLEASE LEAVE THE SCREEN EXACTLY THE WAY, WAY IT'S OKAY.
WE, WE, WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.
I, I AM, UH, JUST A TAD BIT CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY.
I KNOW THAT THE OPEN AREA THAT'S, UH, UH, IN THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT HYPOTHETICALLY, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
ANYBODY COULD WANDER THROUGH THERE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ANYTHING HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET INTO THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT'S NOT GUARDED.
THERE'S NO SAFETY MECHANISM, THERE'S NOTHING TO SHOW THAT THAT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, FROM WHICH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, MA'AM? THE, THE PART THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH FOR THE BLUE, THE BLUE PART THAT, UM, I, I, I'M, WE'RE NOT CONCERNED TODAY.
UM, THIS IS FAIRLY COMMON IN THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT, AND ADDITIONALLY THIS PLAN DOES NOT SHOW ANY LANDSCAPING.
BUT, UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 2100, 2300 SHRUBS.
THERE'S A COUPLE HUNDRED TREES AND THERE, UM, ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS AROUND OUR PAVING HERE IN PINK, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A SCREENING AESTHETIC, UH, THAN A SECURITY.
BUT, UM, NO, IT'D BE AN EASY ADDITION DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED WITH THE SECURITY.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN, IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED WHAT YOU'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT ANY, UM, ANIMALS OR ANYTHING? I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S AN OPEN AREA, I MEAN, THROUGH THERE.
I, I DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY AT NIGHT, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SORT OF POSSUM OR T OR SOMETHING.
CRITTERS SOME CRITTERS, BUT, UH, UH, NO, FROM A, A SECURITY OR A SAFETY STANDPOINT, IT'S, I I'VE BEEN BACK, UH, ON THE SITE.
IT IS INCREDIBLY DENSE, ALMOST TO THE POINT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH THIS, WHICH IS WHY OUR TREE MITIGATION PLAN TOOK SO LONG.
IT IS SO, UH,
HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROPERTIES LIKE THIS THAT YOU'VE WORKED ON WITH SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THE, UH, FLOOD PLAIN FLOOD PLAINS? MM-HMM
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, CLR LMER PROCESSES, UM, AND HAVE FUTURE SITES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PLANS AND ENTITLEMENTS ON THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NO PROBLEM WITH SAFETY WHEN YOU DON'T SECURE THE AREA YOU HAVE.
UM, NO, THAT'S MORE SO WHEN SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S GOT, UH, SOME SORT OF VEHICLE MAYBE FOR THEIR BUSINESS THAT'S, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, UM,
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MAYBE A HIGH-END, UH, UH, DELIVERY TRUCK OF SOME SORT THAT THEY PARK OUT HERE, THEY MAY END UP FENCING THAT JUST TO SECURE IT.BUT, UM, NO, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO OUTSIDE STORAGE COMPONENT.
THERE'S NO VALUABLE SITTING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, THERE'S NOT A RISK, UH, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW.
WELL, I THANK YOU FOR COMING TO GRAND PRAIRIE, AND I, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, UM, YOU DID THE, THE MARKETING SURVEY AND A LOT OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES SIMILAR.
THEY'RE NOT UP TO, UP TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OLDER AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY, A LOT OF THE AMENITIES THEY DON'T HAVE.
SO YOU'RE BRINGING A NEW AMENITY, AN UPDATED AMENITY TO THE AREA, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
WE, WE, WE LOVE GSW, WE LOVE, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO OBTAIN HERE IN THE CITY.
UM, GSW IS AN INCREDIBLE MARKET.
IT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST COMMERCIAL MARKETS IN, UH, DFW.
UM, BUT A LOT OF IT IS OBSOLETE AND ISN'T, THERE'S A STRONG NEED FOR PRODUCT LIKE THIS IN OUR OPINION.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, MA'AM.
UH, THIS, DO WE NEED ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR DCO AND COMMISSIONER ARI? THIS, THIS, THIS AREA.
WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE THE TWO TOGETHER, SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, FIRST OF ALL WITH REGARD TO ANY CONCERNS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, CONCERNS? UH, I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAD A VERY GOOD QUESTION WHEN SHE ASKED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE SECURITY OF THE AREA.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE FENCED AT ALL.
THAT WAS A, A LITTLE CONCERN OF MINE, BUT I CAN LIVE WITH IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT TROUBLED YOU? NO, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING TROUBLED ME.
I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THE, THE TOPOGRAPHICAL STUDY AND STUFF, THAT ADDING JUST THAT WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON THE EAST SIDE, UM, SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE REQUEST.
IT DOES, BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS REQUEST FOR NO FENCE IN THE BLUE LINE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S DENTS AND IT'S A FLOOD PLAIN.
IT'S NOT DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NEVER PROBABLY GONNA EVER BE DEVELOPED.
IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE CITY'S, UM, PLAN, IT WAS GREEN AND BLUE, AND I THINK IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK ONE WAS FLOOD PLAIN AND ONE WAS JUNE FLOOD ZONE OR SOMETHING.
JUNE WANTED TO HAVE FENCING ON, ON, RIGHT? MM-HMM
BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE THE CITY SAID, HERE, YOU'RE DEVELOPING THIS LAND.
AND, AND THE RULE IS IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING THE LAND, THEN YOU MUST C YOU KNOW, SURROUND IT WITH FENCE, NOT NECESSARILY THIS SPECIAL KIND OF SITUATION WHERE, WHAT IS THE GREEN DESIGNATE VERSUS THE BLUE? SO THAT'S MORE OF A SIMILAR QUESTIONS MM-HMM
BUT THOSE ARE ALL PART OF A HUNDRED YEAR, 500 YEAR FLOOD PLANE.
AS FAR AS FENCING'S CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T ALLOW THEM TO BE INSIDE AGAIN, IN THE FLOOD PLATE.
YOU DON'T WANT, I'M SO SORRY, I NEED TO SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONE.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO BLOCK THE FLOW OF WATER.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE DISTURBANCE.
BUT AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, STEPH DOES NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSE THE VARIANCES.
IT WAS JUST NOT APPROVED WITH THE ZONING CASES.
WE JUST WANT TO TAKE IT FORWARD JUST SO THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION.
NOTING THAT THEY DIDN'T APPROVE IT DURING THE TIME, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY REALLY DID NOT WANNA SUPPORT THE VARIANCE.
NOW THAT THEY HAVE MORE STUDIES, WILL THEY BE MORE OPEN TO, WE'RE NOT SURE.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST ON THE, UH MM-HMM
THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, UH, ENCLOSE IT AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
HAVE WE EVER DONE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE PART OF THE PROPERTY'S NOT GONNA FLOOD CLAIM? THE OTHER PART IS, AND THERE'S A
SO TYPICALLY THOSE ARE HANDLED DURING THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS.
THEY TYPICALLY SHOW A MASONRY SCREENING WALL DURING THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEWS.
IF THEY RUN INTO THOSE ISSUES, ENGINEERING ACTUALLY DOES HAVE AUTHORITY TO GRANT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROHIBITED.
I'M LESS LIKELY TO AGREE WITH HIM ON THE FIX.
BUT WHAT IS OUR, DO WE HAVE ANY REAL, BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING HIS BUSINESS MODEL AND THE EACH KIND OF, UH, WAREHOUSE THAT HE'S TRYING TO DO LAST MILE AND STUFF, WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING VARIANCE.
AND JUNE, CAN I ASK, SO THE PURPOSE OF THE FENCE MM-HMM
IN OUR CITY DOCUMENTS MM-HMM
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE FENCE? YES.
IS IT AN AESTHETIC THING? IS IT A WHAT IS IT? YES.
SO IT'S THE YOUTH SEPARATION, ACTUALLY.
UM, SO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERY SITE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT CONDITION.
THE ASSUMPTION IS IT'S FLAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU SEE A BACK OF A TARGET OR A WALMART, YOU SEE THAT SIX FOOT TALL FENCES NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SOME SEPARATION FROM THE COMMERCIAL USES SENSE.
SO IN THE SAME WAY IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL USE, WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE SIX FOOT EVENTS.
AGAIN, UM, STAFF, UM, PRESENTED THE VARIANCE REQUESTS.
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IN THAT VEIN, TALKING TO OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE, UM, IN THAT VEIN, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO PROTECT THE, THE SITE LINE OF SIGHT OF THE NEIGHBORS FROM WHEN IT GETS FURTHER DOWN THE WAY, BECAUSE IT'S DENSELY WOODED AND IT'S NOT DEVELOPED IN THAT NORTHERN PART.UM, SO ALSO THERE'S A HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN THE CLOSEST, THERE'S CLOSEST THERE.
BROADER FENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
RIGHT? NOT ON THE EAST, ONLY ON THE SOUTH, THERE'S NOT ROD FENCE ON THE, ON THE APARTMENT TO THE EAST, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE HUNDRED FOR UTILITIES MEN, THEY ARE AAD COMMUNITIES.
SO THEY HAVE A ROD IRON FENCE COMMUNITY.
SO EVEN BETTER, PRACTICALLY, SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO TRAVEL ABOUT SEVEN, 600 FOOT THROUGH THE BUSHES TO GET TO THE PARKING THAT'S NOT SCREENED.
SO YES, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF WALK.
AND THEN THERE IS A CREEK THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO JUMP OVER THE WATER.
WE CAN JUST GO DOWN THE UTILITY POSSIBLE.
ANY OTHER CONCERNS? UH, WE NEED TO DISCUSS? I THINK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A A LOT ON THIS ONE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING DISCUSSION TO A CLOSE.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER, UH, FOR DURO AND COMMISSIONER ARI, ARE Y'ALL GONNA HAVE A COME TO JESUS CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, WHO'S GONNA MAKE THE MOTION AND I'M NOT GONNA FIND HER, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, THE ROD IRON PART THAT ABOUT
THERE'S NOT A FENCE NOW, BUT IT'S NOT A FENCE, BUT THERE'S, IT'S NEVER DEVELOPED.
AND THEN THERE'S THAT FENCE AROUND THE, THE COMPLEX.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MADE ME COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR MM-HMM
THEIR EVENTS, AND IT'S BEEN UNDEVELOPED THIS WHOLE TIME.
AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL, YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, IT COULD, YOU KNOW, BRING ATTENTION, I GUESS TO IT, WHICH I HAVE A FEELING THEY'RE GONNA END UP CLOSING IT ANYWAYS, BECAUSE ONCE THEY GET IN THAT AREA, OKAY.
I MEAN, NOT CLOSING THROUGH THE UNDEVELOPED PART.
I HAVE A FEELING THEY'RE UP CLOSING ALL THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE PARKING LOT.
COMMISSIONERS OF ANY OTHER CONCERNS? Y'ALL, ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH, UM, I MEAN, THAT SEEMED LIKE, THAT MADE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, WAS KNOWING THEY ALREADY HAD FENCE THERE AND THEY HAD FENCE, BUT THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS NOISE.
BUT IF THEY SAID THAT THEY DID A NOISE STUDY THAT THEY'RE BELOW GRADE, I THINK THE
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROPOSAL AS LONG AS, UM, AS LONG AS, UH, THE PLANNING IS IS GONNA BE RIGHT THERE.
AND IF THERE'S A CONCERN, YOU'LL BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
DO WE NEED TO PUT ANY VERBIAGE IN THERE TO SAY THAT WE OR ANYTHING, ARE WE CLEAN WITH THIS? THESE VARIANCES ARE NOT WHAT YOU WANTED OR HER RECOMMENDATION, NOT WHAT YOU WANTED.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GRANT THEIR VARIANCES, YOU CAN, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANTS.
SO WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT THAT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
BUT EVEN NOW, THE VARIANCES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S WRITTEN UP HERE, BECAUSE HE'S HAD THE, THE PARKING, THE ONE THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
WAS IT THE PARKING THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF THE, WELL, NO.
NUMBER THREE, IT SAYS A VARIANCE, THE REQUIREMENT OF A SIX FOOT MASONRY, UM, TO ALLOW RETAINING WALL.
SO IT'S JUST THE RETAINING WALL.
WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE WR IRON ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ON THE EAST WOULD JUST BE RETAINING WALL WITH WR IRON ON TOP, ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING JUST FOR THE 415 FEET VERSUS THE WHOLE 800 AND WHATEVER THOUSAND JUNE.
CAN I SEE THE RECOMMENDATION? YES.
SO THE, AGAIN, TO SUMMARIZE THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU COMPLY WITH OUR UDC REQUIREMENT.
THOSE ARE IN THE ZONING? YES, THOSE ARE IN THE ZONING DOCUMENT.
YOU COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THE VERBIAGE ON THAT IF YOU MEAN I WOULD, I WOULD CONSIDER SAVANNAH SAID WHO SAID IT.
WHAT ELSE SAID SAVANNAH? SAVANNAH REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT ON THAT.
IS THAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK, SAVANNAH? THE WITH VARIANCES OR AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT? MM-HMM
AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? I, I, YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO, HE, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY OPTION OPTIONALITY TO USE A WR IRON OR SET ANY WALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
HE KEPT SAYING, IN REALITY, ANY WALL, RIGHT? HE DOESN'T NEED THE OPTIONALITY OF A WR IRON RIGHT.
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MM-HMMSO IF YOU'D LIKE, ONE OF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO SCP DASH 25 DASH FIVE 16 AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT EXCEPT FOR HIS REQUEST TO USE WR IRON FENCING IN PLACE OVER RETAINING THE WALL ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE.
WILL THAT WORK, SAVANNAH? YES.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM TWO, UH, BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARI.
UH, AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG WITH THE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE CHANGE, I'M NOT GONNA EVEN SAY ALL OF THAT.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[3. STP-24-08-0036 - Site Plan Amendment - 161 Townhomes (City Council District 1). Site Plan Amendment to revise building elevations for 40 townhomes on 4.392 acres. Lots 1-30 and Lots 1X-5X, Block A, 161 Townhomes Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas zoned PD-398, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1400 & 1420 Robinson Rd, 1401-1420 Sultan Dr, and 1400-1424 Monarch Dr]
OKAY.SO THE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE A A C PLAN AMENDMENT IS STP 24 0 8 0 0 3 6.
THIS IS FOR 1 61 TOWN HOME EDITION.
SO THIS TOWN HOME IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF DICKY ROAD AND TO THE EAST OF ONE, UM, HIGHWAY 1 61.
THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING A 40 TOWN HOMES FOR SALE ON INDIVIDUALLY PLOTTED LOTS.
SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN APPROVED IN 2020 WITH THE SAME CONFIGURATION.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO CONSTRUCT IT WITHIN THE, UH, THEIR PLANNED TIMEFRAME.
AND SINCE THEN, THE CONSTRUCTION CO COST HAS GONE OFF SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS COMING BACK THROUGH WITH A CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS LIKE A, UM, ONE OF THEIR, UH, ELEVATIONS THAT SHOWS THE FRONT AND THE REAR WHERE THE GARAGES WILL BE AND THE SIDE ELEVATIONS.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BE APPROVED.
UM, SO THIS IS A DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE APPROVED, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN IN THE 2020, UM, 2020.
SO GENERALLY THEY'RE RARE IN THE SIDE, OR, UM, MIXTURE OF SIDING AND BRICKS.
SO IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE.
UM, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE FRONT ELEVATION AT THAT TIME HAD A LITTLE MORE, UH, BRICK AND STONE PERCENTAGES AND LITTLE MORE ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL.
THEY ARE COMING BACK THROUGH WITH, UM, USING THE WINDOWS, UM, THE DOUBLE PANE AND THE SINGLE PANE WINDOW IN THEIR COM, UH, COMPOSITIONS ALONG WITH THE, UH, BRICKS, OLDER COURSES AS THEIR TRIM.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLIFIED, BUT PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION CAUSES, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY BEING CHANGED.
AND THE, UH, APPLICANT FEELS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE MARKET.
UM, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THIS CONCLUDES PRE, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT AT THE MEETING.
ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A COLOR, UH, COPY OF THE PROPOSED, BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO TELL IT.
SO AGAIN, UM, ONE THING YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IS THE DARKER SIDE.
SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL, IT'S ALL BRICK.
ABOVE THAT, IT'S ALL HARDY BOARD, WHETHER IT'S A BOARD AND BATTEN OR IT'S THE, UM, ONE OF THOSE TYPICAL HORIZONTAL SIDING.
SPEAKER CARDS, THEY HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.
TRAVIS BRIGHT DOOR WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
SO TRAVIS AUER, UM, ADDRESS 7 2 2 NETTLETON DRIVE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS 7 6 0 9 2.
UM, SO I'M HERE AT THE REQUEST OF THE OWNERS.
WE ARE A MULTINATIONAL DESIGN FIRM, UM, OUR LOCAL OFFICES IN FRISCO.
AND, UM, SO THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE, UM, THE OWNER CAME TO US AND ASKED US TO REVISE THE MASSING OF THESE BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THEY SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, UM, DIRECTION THAT THEY WANTED TO GO.
UM, THE FOOTPRINTS, THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE SITE, WE ARE STILL AT THE 40 UNITS AND IT'S SPREAD OUT OVER 15 BUILDINGS.
IT'S A MIX OF TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, UM, UNIT TOWN HOMES.
UM, IT'S THE, SO THE FOOTPRINT ON THE SITE IS STAYING PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE.
THE BIGGEST CHANGE, I WOULD SAY IN THE MASSING IS THAT THERE WERE MORE, IT WAS MORE OF A DETACHED GARAGE.
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AND SO THE, THE OWNERS WANTED TO GET THE, UM, THE GARAGE WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.UM, WE HAVE REMAINED CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF MASONRY AND, UM, AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT, THAT ARE REQUIRED BY GRAND PRAIRIE.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ENTIRE FIRST LEVEL IS GOING TO BE ALL, UM, SOLID BRICK MASONRY.
UH, ONCE WE GET ABOVE THAT TO THE SECOND FLOOR, IT IS ALL GOING TO BE, UM, MORE OF A HARDY BOARD TYPE OF, UM, FIBER CEMENT SIDING, UM, WHICH IS VERY DURABLE.
UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A MIX OF BOARD AND BATTEN, WHICH IS MORE OF A VERTICAL ORIENTATION OF THE TRIM WORK AND A MIX OF THAT WITH, UM, A MORE OF A TRADITIONAL LAP SIDING LOOK AROUND THE BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE VARIED ROOF LINES AND, UM, THE, UH, THE COLORING IS GOING TO BE A NATURAL, SUBTLE, UM, COLOR, COLOR SCHEMES THAT ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE BRICK AND THE FIBER CEMENT.
UM, AND IT'S, WE'RE BASICALLY HEAPING IN CHARACTER WITH THE ORIGINAL THAT WAS, THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED AND HAD BEEN ACCEPTED.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S WONDER, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A, SOME, A PRESENTATION.
THAT'S WHY I WAS HEDGING, SO, OH, SORRY.
IT WAS JUST, JUST MORE, MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT WAS AND IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, DID COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION AND I'LL, I LIKE WHAT I SEE.
I JUST WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO SEE A COLOR COPY OF THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.
BECAUSE I'M THE VISUAL PERSON, I LIKE TO SEE IT.
AND SO WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, UM, TURNAROUND SAY ALL GOES WELL AS TO SEEING THESE UP AND RUNNING? UM, THE, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE, YOU'RE SAYING WHAT, HOW LONG BEFORE THEY COULD BE THESE COULD BE, UM, SOLD.
UM, I MEAN, I'LL ACTUALLY LET, IF I COULD LET THE OWNERS SPEAK TO THAT.
CAN YOU COME UP HERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? YES.
MY NAME IS MOHAMMAD HUSSEIN, 3 1 1 2 ROLLING HILLS SLAIN, WILEY, TEXAS.
SO, UM, AND WHAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT HOW SOON WE ARE GONNA START THE DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF.
SO WE ARE WAITING, ONCE THIS PASSES THROUGH PNZ AND WE GET THE, WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE PLANNING.
UH, OUR INTENT IS TO START PULLING THE PERMIT AND START THE CONSTRUCTION.
WE ANTICIPATE ONCE WE, FROM THE TIME WE PULL THE PERMIT TO GETTING, UH, AT LEAST THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS READY IN ABOUT, I WOULD SAY ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS MM-HMM
OR SO, SO YOU'LL JUST DO IT IN TEARS, YOU SEE HOW THAT GOES? CORRECT.
AND THEN YOU'LL JUST TAKE YOUR TIME OVER A YEAR TO TWO YEAR PERIOD.
SO AS THEY'RE DOING, THEN THE NEXT TWO MIGHT COME UP OR NEXT FOUR MIGHT COME UP.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT TWO OR THREE PHASES.
SO YOU DID THE MARKETING STUDY AND THE STUDY SHOWS THIS, THIS AREA BEING A PRODUCTIVE AREA FOR YOU.
FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND WHAT THE MARKET STUDY SHOWS THAT IS CORRECT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? THIS IS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER FORO THERE.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION, UH, BEFORE WE YOU VOTE? ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR COMMISSIONER FEDCO? I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAN.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
ITEM 3 2 4 DASH EIGHT DASH 0 3 6.
I SECOND THAT I HAVE A MOTION ON FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM THREE BY COMMISSIONER FCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
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GOOD EVENING.UM, SO ITEM FOUR AND ITEM FIVE ARE RELATED.
UM, THIS IS A CPA CASE AND THE NEXT ONE IS A ZONING CASE.
SO THIS ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS CPA, UH, 2 5 0 6 0 0 1 2.
IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A PROPOSED FUNERAL HOME.
UM, THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS THREE 10 SOUTHWEST THIRD STREET AND IT IS IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
SO THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, TO CHANGE THE FUTURE
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LAND USE MAP FROM WHAT IS EXISTING CURRENTLY, WHICH IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO WHAT IS PROPOSED, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THE USE THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED.UH, THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF JEFFERSON OFF OF UM, THIRD STREET.
AND THIS IS CURRENTLY ON THE LEFT.
THIS IS WHAT THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE ZONING, THIS IS THE FUTURE, UM, LAND USE MAP.
SO IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SURROUNDED BY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS SOME HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.
UM, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THIS WAS APPROVED WITH THE PROPERTY.
UH, AT THREE 10 SOUTHWEST THIRD BEING COMMERCIAL, THE STAFF, UM, IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT THE ZONING, BUT THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN TAKE THAT OR I CAN GO INTO THIS CONTINUE.
TO START TOGETHER, LET'S DO THAT.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
IT IS THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
UM, AGAIN, FOR THE FU FOR A PROPOSED FU UH, FUNERAL HOME AT THREE 10 SOUTHWEST THIRD STREET IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
UM, SO THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
CURRENTLY IT IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY ONE AND IT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING AS A CHURCH.
THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD BE GENERAL RETAIL.
UM, THERE'S THE ADDRESS AGAIN, THREE 10 SOUTHWEST THIRD.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO CHANGE THIS EXISTING CHURCH TO A FUNERAL HOME.
THIS IS JUST A AERIAL VIEW OF THAT LOCATION.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY, UH, MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL.
NOW THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, UM, HAS SOME THINGS THAT THE FACILITY WILL BE USED FOR AND SOME, UH, USES THAT IT WILL NOT BE USED FOR.
SO JUST BECAUSE HE'S SAYING IT'S A FUNERAL HOME, HE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE FACILITY WILL NOT BE USED FOR REMOVALS, EMBALMING, AND TRANSPORTATION TO THE AIRPORT.
UM, THEY HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY THAT IS USED FOR THAT.
THIS FACILITY WILL BE USED FOR STAGING, VISITATION AND CHAPEL SERVICES.
UH, IF APPROVED, UH, FOR GENERAL RETAIL, THEN THE ZONING WILL ALLOW BY RIGHT.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES.
A FUNERAL HOME, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
BED AND BREAKFAST, HOTEL, HOSPITAL, GROCERY STORE, MOVIE THEATER, BANK, HARDWARE STORE RESTAURANT.
AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD COME IF THIS WAS APPROVED AS GENERAL RETAIL ZONING.
UM, PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATION LETTERS WERE SENT OUT TO 51 PROPERTIES, UM, AND THERE WAS ONE OPPOSITION LETTER, NONE IN SUPPORT.
THE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER DARCO, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE ABOUT WHAT THE RULES USED FOR WHAT IT WON'T BE USED FOR? YES.
AND I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE, SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT THEY CAN BETTER ANSWER, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FACILITY WILL NOT BE USED FOR THE APPROVAL.
SO CAN I HAVE THE APPLICANT COME? YEAH, THAT'S, WE HAVE LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.
SO YOU DON'T NO, SHE WOULDN'T KNOW.
AND MR. SANCHEZ DID FILL OUT A CARD AND WISHES.
MR. SANCHEZ, PLEASE STATE RESTATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS RENE SANCHEZ, AND I'M AT 1951 SOUTH STORY ROAD IN ARVIN, TEXAS, 7 5 0 6 0.
UM, I'M HERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE, UM, WHAT IT IS, THE FUNERAL HOME ACTUALLY HAS TWO FUNCTIONS.
ONE, WHICH IS CALLED WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THE MORTUARY SERVICE PART VERSUS THE ACTUAL SERVICE PART OF, OF THE SERVICE.
MEANING I HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY IN IRVING, WHICH THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY.
THEY, ONCE THEY, THEY DO THE REMOVALS, THAT'S WHERE THE PART OF THE REMOVAL IS.
THAT'S THE ONES THAT IF ANYBODY PASSES AWAY AT MIDDLE OF THAT 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING, THAT LOCATION TAKES CARE OF THE REMOVAL, THE EMBALMING, THE PREPARATION, AND ALSO
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WITH THE REFRIGERATION.THE FUNERAL HOME PARK SIDE IS THE CHAPEL, UM, FOR THE FUNERALS, CHAPEL.
IT'S BASICALLY LIKE ANY OTHER, UH, SERVICES THAT WE DO, LIKE A WEDDING, LIKE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE.
I HAVE VISITATION IN OTHER CHURCHES BEFORE.
WE HAVE SERVICES IN, IN OTHER CHURCHES BEFORE.
BUT IT SO HAPPENS AT THIS CHURCH.
I, I, THE REASON I'M, I WANNA GET THIS CHURCH IS ACTUALLY TO SAVE IT.
I, I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO KNOW THIS CONGREGATION FOR A WHILE, THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING VISITATIONS.
I'VE BEEN HAVING FUNERALS IN THAT CHURCH PRIOR, WHEN HE CAME INTO SALE, BECAUSE OF THE, OF COURSE, THE CONGREGATION WAS FADING AWAY.
THERE'S ONLY 29 MEMBERS IN THAT CHURCH.
AND IT TAKES A LOT OF FINANCIALLY, UH, UH, RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN A CHURCH THAT SIDE, THANK THE LORD WE ARE WITH.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO, ACTUALLY, WHEN I USE IT AS THE, THE VISITATION PART, MEANING MY TEAM WILL BRING THE BODY, THEY WILL DRESS AND CASCADE IN THE OTHER LOCATION.
OUR HOURS OF OPERATION IS FROM 3:00 PM TO 7:00 PM SUNDAYS WE'RE CLOSED BECAUSE I, THAT'S MY STAFF'S DAY.
SO ON THE SERVICES FOR THE MORNINGS, USUALLY WE HAVE AT 10:00 AM MEANING THAT THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL FACILITIES ARE BEING USED NOT ALL DAY.
UH, THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE OF THE FUNERALS, IT COULD VARIES.
MY OTHER LOCATION COULD ACTUALLY FEED UP TO 275 PEOPLE, WHICH THIS LOCATION IS GONNA BE ABLE TO FIT MORE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THAT MUCH SPACE.
BUT ALL I'M INTERESTED IN IS ACTUALLY THE CHAPEL.
I DID UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, BEING NEXT TO THE FUNERAL HOME, ANY RESIDENCE, ANY, ANYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO BE NEXT TO THE FUNERAL HOME.
IT'S LIKE ME, I DON'T WANT TO BE NEXT TO THE CEMETERY PERSONALLY.
SO WHY IS IT THAT WE PROVIDE? BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MISCON THAT MOST OF THE FUNERAL HOMES, THEY HAVE THE BODIES THERE AND THEY DO THE EMBALMING THERE.
WE ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE.
WE ARE REGULATED BY THE OSHA IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A RESIDENCE.
THAT I'VE NOTICED, IF YOU SEE OUR, OUR ZONING, THAT RESIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY THERE'S THAT OPPOSED TO IT.
SHE'S ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARKING, IF YOU WILL SEE, SHE'S NOT FACING THE FUNERAL HOME.
THIS IS THE PART THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING.
THERE'S SOME BUILDINGS THERE THAT WE AREN'T GONNA ALLOW THE CHURCH TO KEEP USING.
THERE'S A DAYCARE CENTER AND THERE'S A SCHOOL FOR SUNDAYS, AND THERE'S A PLAYGROUND.
WE HAVE BECOME, WE HAVE BECOME PERSONALLY IN WRITING FOR.
SO THE CHURCH COULD STILL BE USING, I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE THAT MEMBERS OUT OF THAT CHURCH, OUT OF THAT LOCATION.
UM, I ACTUALLY MADE A CONTRACT WITH THE CHURCH IN WRITING WHERE I AM GONNA TAKE CARE OF THIS, UH, OF THE SERVICES FOR THE 29 MEMBERS.
I AM GONNA LET THEM USE THE CHURCH FOR SUNDAYS, SINCE I'M NOT OPEN ON SUNDAYS.
THEY'RE MORE THAN GLAD TO USE THAT, THAT LOCATION.
SO I BELIEVE IT'S A CONTRIBUTION TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE GRAND PERRY WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE HELPING THE COMMUNITY ON THAT SIDE.
MAYBE THAT COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE AS ACTIVE AS ANY OTHER, UH, FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER, BUT THEY'RE STILL THERE.
DON'T FORGET THAT THERE'S THEIR HOME.
'CAUSE WHAT THE PASTOR WAS TELLING ME, HE WAS SAY, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE 'EM OUT OF THEIR HOME.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M USING THIS FOR THE AMOUNT OF, UH, FINANCIAL SPEND ON THE CHURCH ITSELF.
I COULD BUILD A NEW LOCATION FOR THAT AMOUNT THAT I'M SPENDING TO, TO GET THIS CHURCH.
BUT WHAT I'M GONNA DO, I'M GONNA SAVE THIS BUILDING.
I'M GONNA RENEW THE, UH, REVISE IT AND TRY TO KEEP IT AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD INPUT TO LET US KNOW MORE IN DETAIL.
BUT MY CONCERN IS, UH, IT'S GOOD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR BECAUSE IF THIS PERSON, IF YOU HAVE HAD A MAYBE A CONVERSATION WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PRIOR TO COMING HERE, THAT MIGHT HELP SOME.
BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THAT, THAT, THAT THERE IS OPPOSITION.
I WOULD DO ANYTHING THAT THE NEIGHBOR WOULD WANT US TO DO, EITHER TO ACCOMMODATE HER NEEDS, BECAUSE IN MY OTHER LOCATION, I'D ALSO HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT WE HAVE ACCOMMODATE THEIR NEEDS.
ALSO, ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS WITH, UM, TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FUNERALS DO TAKE UP, THERE'S SOMETIMES A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT SO MANY PEOPLE.
AND IF YOU'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A COMMERCIAL, LIKE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
AND YOU MAY MISS, WANNA BE OUT IN YOUR BACKYARD, JUST, YOU KNOW, CHILLING OR, AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF GOING ON SO CLOSE AROUND YOU IN PROXIMITY.
UM, ON THE PARKING, THERE'S 86 PARKING SPACES THAT THE CHURCH HAVE.
KEEP IN, KEEP IN MIND, THIS CHURCH HAS ALREADY BEEN, IT WAS ACCOMMODATING.
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IT, IT ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATES ABOUT 1100 MM-HMMSO THE CHURCH IS, IS CAPABLE WITH ENOUGH PARKING FOR IT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE USING AT ALL.
SO, SO HOW LONG HAS THE CHURCH BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NOT ANY IDEA.
I WAS, I, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY FOUND IT.
UH, WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH, IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2001.
WHEN I STARTED, WHEN I STARTED, UH, UH, TAKING SERVICES THERE.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, COMMISSIONER.
YEAH, NO, I WAS GONNA ASK TOO.
UM, ARE YOU PLANNING TO MAKE ANY DRAMATIC CHANGES TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH? NO.
SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GONNA MAINTAIN AND IMP LIKE YES.
MAINTAIN THE BUILDING AND, AND CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE CHURCH MEMBERS TO USE THE BUILDING.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF CHURCHES, UM, CLOSE THEIR DOORS WHEN COVID CAME, AND I JUST WANT TO JUST COMMEND YOU FOR HAVING THE HEART TO WANT TO SAVE THAT CHURCH, EVEN IF IT DOES HAVE THE 29 MEMBERS.
WILL THAT FACILITY, UM, FOR THE STAGING, THE VISITATIONS, WILL IT BE ALLOWED FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT, UM, FACILITY EVEN IF THEY DON'T USE YOUR YES.
FUNERAL HOME IN URBAN? OH, YES.
AND AND I DO U DO THE SAME THING IN URBAN.
THERE IS A CHURCH THAT IS, UM, LUTHERAN, THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE THEY, THEY WERE MOVING.
YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO USE OUR SERVICES AT, AT NO MEANS I'VE BEEN A FUNERAL DIRECTOR OVER, I'M A THIRD GENERATION FUNERAL DIRECTOR.
UH, MY FATHER, UH, HAS ALWAYS TAUGHT US THAT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, YOU CANNOT, UH, YOU CANNOT MAKE THE COMMUNITY USE YOU FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHURCHES, THERE'S A LOT OF FUNERAL HOMES.
YOU HAVE TO EARN THE PUBLIC'S TRUST FOR THEM TO USE YOU.
SO WE HAVE TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE THERE.
IT'S NOT FOR THE FINANCIAL, THE, THE FUNERAL HOME IS BUSINESS, BUT IT IS, IT'S ALSO A STANDARD WHERE WE HAVE TO, UH, BE IN A STANDARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE TO PRESENT OURSELVES AS, AS GOOD CITIZENS AROUND THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE LOCAL FUNERAL HOMES.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IS WON'T BE FOR REMOVAL, AND WOULD THERE BE ANY CHEMICALS INVOLVED? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THEY DO CREMATION.
NO, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN URBAN, WHICH I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
THAT IS MY LOCATION WHERE THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT.
ON THE EMBALMING PART YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, THAT'S THE ONLY ONES THAT THEY'RE TALKING.
VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER COMM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.
UH, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS MORE AROUND, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING CHURCH.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
ARE YOU GONNA PLAN TO ADD SOMETHING FOR THE STAGING? UH, ADDITIONAL NO.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU, IF YOU REALIZE THE ACTUAL, ANY, ANY FUNERAL THAT YOU HAVE ATTENDED WHERE THEY HAVE IT AT CHURCH, STILL THE SAME.
THE ONLY THING I'M GONNA DO IS OF COURSE, UPDATE THE, THE BATHROOMS CARPET PAINTING INSIDE.
AND THERE IS, THERE IS A LITTLE, UH, A LITTLE FOUNDATION PROBLEM IN ONE OF THOSE, UH, ROOMS IN THE BACK.
BUT THE EXTERIOR, NO, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA MOVE THE CROSS THAT IS IN THE, THAT IT'S, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF CONFLICT WITH OTHER RELIGIONS, BUT FOR MY PERSONAL, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE THE, THE PASTOR DID ASK ME ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, COMMISSIONER ARI'S AREA.
SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT DETAIL.
WELL, DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? DO, HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THIS? I, I WAS FEELING ONE WAY, BUT I'M FEELING ANOTHER WAY NOW.
YOU CHECK WITH SAVANNAH? UH, JUNE WAS IT? NO, WASN'T JUNE.
YOU, YOU WANT FOR, FOR THE, UH, PLANNER STAFF? YOU CAN ASK CHARLES SAVANNAH FIRST, I WOULD SAY.
GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION.
UM, SO THE REASON WHY THE CITY IS KIND OF AGAINST IT IS BECAUSE IT WILL END UP OPENING, COULD POSSIBLY OPEN THE DOOR IF THIS, YOU KNOW, SAVING THE CHURCH DOESN'T WORK.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT? CORRECT.
SO WHEN, UH, A ZONING CHANGE COMES FORWARD REQUESTING, UH, A PARTICULARLY USE LIKE A, A FUNERAL HOME, UH, THEIR PROPOSAL IS FOR GENERAL RETAIL.
UM, SO STAFF IS TRYING TO THINK
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ABOUT OTHER POSSIBILITIES OF THAT COMING IN INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.BUT CAN IT BE, I GUESS THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT SHE'S GOING DOWN, I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE, I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD VERY WELL.
I THINK HIS IDEA IS GREAT SAVING A CHURCH.
THIS IS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO MEET.
HE DOES ALL THE MORTUARY STUFF IN IRVING.
BUT, UH, HENA MADE IT VERY CLEAR, WE'RE REZONING THIS FOR GENERAL RETAIL, CONVENIENCE STORE, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
NOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP, BUT JUST GOING YES.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO SHOEHORN THIS INTO A CHANGE TO ONLY DO A FUNERAL? NOT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT.
THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
BUT I THINK THAT, UM, SOUNDS LIKE THIS CHURCH IS GONNA BE IN THE AREA FOREVER.
NO, I WE DO, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE REZONE THAT THEN BY RIGHT.
ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE CAN COME AND DO ANY OF THOSE LISTED RIGHTS.
THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND PRESENT AS WELL.
ONLY IF IT'S A USE THAT REQUIRES AN
UNLESS THERE WAS A VARIANCE OR SO SOMETHING OF A VARIANCE.
I MEAN, IT'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT WOULD BE BEFORE YOU FOR A SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, IT'D ONLY COME BEFORE YOU IF THEY WERE REQUESTING AN SVP SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU'RE, YOU'RE ENCUMBERING THAT LAND WITH OPENENDEDNESS THAT NOBODY HERE IN 2025 CAN PREDICT YEARS LATER.
THAT'S MY I KNOW
BUT, UM, UM, DO YOU DISAGREE MS. MADDEN? I THINK THAT CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE A REALLY LONG TIME.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AS YOU ARE TOO.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU COME IN OFF OF THIRD OR FOURTH, WHATEVER RIGHT.
THAT WHOLE AREA RIGHT THERE, WHERE THE CHURCH IS OUT TOWARDS JEFFERSON IS ALL SORT OF COMMERCIALLY.
SO EVEN IF ONE DAY SOMEBODY KNOCKED IT DOWN, IT'D BE THE NEIGHBORS TO THE, ACROSS A KIND OF A PRETTY BUSY STREET IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH THAT WOULD SEE ANYTHING RETAIL.
I, I JUST, I I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.
THE THE PERSON'S A THIRD GENERATION.
I THINK THE LONGEVITY, I THINK HE WOULD CHOOSE A LOCATION.
I I'M THINKING THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT CHANGING HANDS AGAIN, YOU THINKING OR ARE YOU HOPING NO, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA BE HOPEFUL.
I'M GONNA BE CONFIDENT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, I I WOULD LEAN YES ON THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GONNA STILL BE INTACT.
HE'S OFFERING THE, THE, THE USE OF THE CHURCH ON SUNDAY FOR THE, FOR THE PARISHIONERS.
AND IT'S JUST SO MANY PLUSES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I AM ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY AND I'M ALL ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
AND IT'S NOT TAKING THEM OUT OF THEIR ELEMENT.
THAT MEANS BEING A, HE'S BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
HE, YEAH, HE'S, HE'S DOING GREAT.
SO I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THIS DISCUSSION? I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
I MEAN, IT'S THAT, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE IT, IT'S THE BIG PICTURE, BIG PICTURES, THIS, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT, HAVE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, DIFFERENT REASONS FOR, FOR BEING HERE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR INDIVIDUAL VOTE IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL VOTE.
VOTE, YOUR CONSCIOUS, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU WANNA VOTE AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY, I ALWAYS SAY THAT I'M GONNA VOTE THE WAY I VOTE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL.
BUT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT.
THE ONE THING THAT KIND OF SWAYED ME, WHICH IS WHAT MICHELLE SAID, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT AREA USED BACK GOING AGAINST SNOW COMES IN THAT AREA.
THAT JUST NORTH OF THAT IS VERY COMMERCIALLY COMMERCIAL ALREADY.
AND MAYBE IT'S ONE SAVING GRACE.
BUT YEAH, AGAIN, WE'RE UNCOVERING THIS LAND AS BEING RETAIL FOREVER.
NOW IF, IF, IF THE COUNCIL DOES POTENTIALLY OR ANOTHER CHURCH AND, AND IT COULD BE REZONED AGAIN IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS REZONE, REZONE, REZONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER? SO WE CAN MOVE ANGELA, WOULD YOU NOW I JUST KNOW THAT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT, G-P-I-S-D, THEY HAVE AN OPENING SCHOOL JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ROLES EVEN AT THE SCHOOL VOCATION.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
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VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD COMMENT.UH, COMMISSIONER MEDINA, YOU WHAT'S IN QUESTION HERE? BECAUSE IF, IF WE APPROVE IT RIGHT, IT CAN BE ANY OF THOSE OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES MM-HMM
SO OF THOSE OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY ALL WERE.
BUT, UH, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE, THESE DESIRABLE OF THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE A FUNERAL HOME.
THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE NEXT TO A FUNERAL HOME.
BUT ALL THOSE OTHER ONES DIDN'T SEEM THAT BAD.
SO IS THE CONCERN HERE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA APPROVE IT, THAT THEN THESE OTHER TYPES OF, BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, I MEAN, WORST CASE SCENARIO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY NOT A FUNERAL HOME.
I THINK IT'S A JUST AN FENCE SPACE VIEWING AREA GETS A VIEW AREA WHERE HE DOES ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
BUT I THINK THE, AT LEAST WHAT JANE AND I WERE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT YOU ARE NOW GIVING THAT PARCEL OF LAND THIS RIGHT IN THE FUTURE TO DO GENERAL RETAIL ONE THAT NEVER HAD THAT.
WELL, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE IT TO, I THINK IT SAID BANK OR HARDWARE STORE, I MEAN, LIKE TWO BLOCKS AWAY IS A HARDWARE STORE ACROSS THE TRACKS IS A BANK.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, I MEAN, LIKE, LET'S THINK ABOUT IF WE DID A MARKET STUDY FOR THOSE OTHER BUSINESSES, WOULD SOMEONE COME IN AND WANT TO, TO USE A CHURCH ONE THAT CHURCH BUILDING FOR THOSE OTHER USES? TWO, IF THEY DIDN'T, WOULD THEY WANNA MAKE THE INVESTMENT IN AN AREA THAT IS, UM, IS NOT AN UP AND COMING AREA, LET ME JUST SAY, UM, TO, TO DEMOLISH IT.
AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG BUILDING AND IT HAS BACK BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THEN BUILD IN A NOT VERY UP AND COMING AREA TO MEET THESE OTHER SCARY BUSINESSES.
WELL, MY, MY BIG PICTURE IS WHAT'S ME, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PROBABLY ATTEND CHURCH THERE.
BUT I, I JUST, I, I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY.
SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
AND, UM, MY, MY, UH, LEAN IS TO, AND I'M GONNA VOTE, UH, FOR IT.
I MEAN, IF NOBODY ELSE VOTES FOR IT, SO BE IT.
BUT I THINK THAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THERE.
HE'S DOING A SERVICE BY LETTING THEM CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR CHURCH.
MAYBE THEIR CHURCH WILL REBUILD AND THEY'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME IN.
BUT THEN A DAYCARE CENTER, A DAYCARE CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THE FOLKS IN THE AREA GOING TO THE DAYCARE CENTER, THAT'S ANOTHER PLUS.
YOU KNOW? SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, IT'S MORE THAN JUST, UH, UH, FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, EVENT.
IT'S, IT'S SERVING SO MANY OTHER PURPOSES.
AND THE SUNDAY SCHOOL AND THE SUNDAY SCHOOL, I MEAN, SO TO ME IT'S, IT'S A NO BRAINER FOR ME.
BUT I MEAN, AT FIRST I HAD, MY FEELINGS WERE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT ONE PERSON THAT DID THE, UM, OPPOSITION LETTER, UH, I GET THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW THIS IS MY PLAN AND THIS IS WHY.
MAYBE IF ALL THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO THAT, UH, HOMEOWNER, MAYBE THAT HOMEOWNER WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN THAT OPPOSITION LETTER.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST, JUST, JUST DEPENDS.
UH, SO ARE YOU GONNA BE SPEAKING MA'AM? UH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
BUT WE HAVE TO COME UP HERE TO SPEAK.
DID YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD? SURE.
YOU CAN FILL ONE OUT AFTERWARDS.
JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM HERE, MA'AM.
JUST, YOU CAN DO, JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ROSIE MUNOZ AND I'M AT 1 26 WEST GRAND PRAIRIE ROAD.
AND, UM, I MEAN, YES, HE EXPLAINED WHAT I HAD, THE QUESTION I HAD, BUT, UM, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
HE SAYS THE CHURCH HAS THOUSAND PLUS PARKING SPACES.
I WALK THROUGH THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH MY DOG AND KIDS.
UM, MY WINDOW FACES THE ONLY THING THAT SEPARATES THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHURCH.
THERE'S, THERE'S A BUILDING THAT WAS USED BY SOMEONE FROM THE CHURCH.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT, HOW IT WAS USED, BUT IT'S A BIG BUILDING THAT THE ONLY THAT SEPARATES THAT BUILDING.
THAT, THAT, AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS ON THIS MAP.
BUT THERE'S THAT BIG SPACE, THAT BIG, THE BUILDING, SHORT BUILDING THAT'S IN THE UHHUH
THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE THE SUNDAY SCHOOL AND THE NURSERY SCHOOLS ARE IN THE BACK THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE MY SON ATTENDED.
SO THERE'S DAYCARE AND THEN THERE'S THAT BIG, UH, UH, THEY CALL IT WAREHOUSE.
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NOT THE DAYCARE.ANYWAY, THAT BUILDING IS WHAT, THAT'S MY REALLY, THAT WAS MY ONLY FEAR, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THING THAT DIVIDES THE CHURCH, I CALL IT THE CHURCH.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S ONE PROPERTY.
UM, I USE THE BACK ALLEY TO GO IN AND OUT BECAUSE, UH, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE ROAD IS A DEAD END.
SO I GO IN THROUGH, IF I GO THROUGH THE FRONT, I GO IN, GO BACK REVERSE.
SO WE USE THE BACK ALLEY DAILY 24 7.
UM, AND THAT IS WHY I WAS, I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE WHEN I HEARD A FUNERAL HOME, WHEN I WERE AT THE LETTER, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS COME TO YOUR MIND LIKE, DO I'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER? DO I REALLY WANNA BE NEXT TO A FUNERAL HOME? WHO CAN TELL ME HOW THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THIS? ARE THEY GONNA, UH, ARE THEY GONNA BUILD A NEW BUILDING? I KNOW SOME MEMBERS THAT ATTEND THIS CHURCH AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY NICE TO ME.
BUT, UM, THEY SAID, WE JUST KIND OF HAND IT OVER.
WELL, WELL, SO YOU HAVEN'T, SO NOBODY ELSE HAS COME TO YOU OPPOSING IT, THAT THAT WOULD BE OH, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY ABOUT IT, NO.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE AN HOA THERE'S NO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
AND SO THAT WAS, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
IF HE SAYS, HE SAYS HE'S NOT GONNA TOUR DOWN THE BUILDING, HE SAYS HE'S NOT GONNA USE THE, THE, HE'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH THAT BUILDING.
UM, AND JUST KIND OF DO, UH, CHURCH VISITATION AND SUNDAY SCHOOLS AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
MY ONLY, MY CONCERN AND REALLY MY FEAR WAS THAT BUILDING, I'M RIGHT.
CAN YOU COME AND EXPLAIN THAT, SIR? DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING THAT? IF WE COULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION? BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU CAME.
I HAVE MY, I GO UNDER THE, UH, MICROPHONE.
SIR, YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
AND THAT BUILDING THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY, THEY HAD A STORAGE.
UH, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO, TO ACCESS OUTREACH, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A STORAGE PLACE.
LIKE I SAID, I'M WILLING TO DO ANYTHING TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR NEEDS.
UH, I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN IN URBAN FOR 30 YEARS, AND I HAVE OTHER RESIDENTS AROUND THAT LOCATION.
AND YOU COULD EVEN ASK ANYBODY IF I EVER HAD, HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH, UH, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NEED.
I PROMISE YOU THAT I'LL GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT I COULD ACCOMMODATE YOUR NEEDS.
AND THAT BUILDING, I HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS BECAUSE I, THEY STILL USING THAT, THAT DAYCARE CENTER.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY BUILDING.
SO YOU'D JUST BE USING THE, THE, THE CHAPEL? YES.
SO YES, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE, UH, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE, UH, THE EVALUATION OF, OF THE BATHROOMS, THE OFFICES, THE CHAPEL.
BUT ON, ON THOSE BACK ROOMS, THERE'S STILL USING THEM.
SO I HAVEN'T HAD, SO THE PROXIMITY, MA'AM, TO YOUR, TO YOUR, THE CHAPEL AND TO YOUR HOME.
CAN, CAN YOU, WHAT? CAN YOU SEE THE CHAPEL FROM YOUR HOME? YES.
IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE VERY, I'M, I'M RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S A SCHOOL, THERE'S A PARKING, THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE SHOP.
BUT IT'S ON THE OTHER OPPOSITE SIDE.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AND I KNOW CODE CAN GIVE YOU ALL THAT INFO, BUT RIGHT NOW THE ISSUE IS THE HOMELESS PERSON THAT YES.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN I HAD.
I SAID MY, MY, I THOUGHT HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL COME BY THE BUILDING FENCE.
THE BUILDING, AND I WOULD GET RID OF MY OKAY.
WE COULD, WE COULD WORK ON SOMETHING WHERE YOU WANT ME TO, IF THAT BUILDING IS NOT BEING USED, I COULD GO AHEAD AND KNOCK IT DOWN.
'CAUSE THEY, I KNOW THEY, THEY USE IT AS STORAGE.
SO I, I HAVE NO USE FOR THIS PART.
THE ONLY THING I'M USING IS THE, THE CHAPEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MA'AM, THAT YOU HAVE? NO.
IF, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AND JUST KIND OF PUT IT OUT THERE MM-HMM
I CAME IN TO KIND OF GATHER MORE IN INFO.
LIKE I SAID, ALL I KNOW IS OH YES.
THE MAIN THING IS WORKING TOGETHER.
AND I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW YOU TWO CAN GET TOGETHER AND GET WITH, UH, UH, UH, SAVANNAH.
ABOUT WHAT? MAKE SURE THEY GET IN TOUCH WITH EACH EACH OTHER.
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, SAVANNAH? IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS CARD, YOU COULD YES.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT SHE WOULD NEED.
I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO PUT IT ON WRITING SO THAT WAY YOU WON'T BE AFRAID THAT, UH, THAT, THAT I WON'T DO IT.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS HEARD AND, UM, ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED SO WE CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR, TO
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MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.SO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? UH, COMMISSIONER ARI? WHAT? ARE YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? YES.
BUT I WANTED TO SEE THERE RECOMMENDATIONS, OR CAN YOU PUT THE RECOMMENDATION UP AGAIN? OKAY.
I MEAN, I KNOW THEY, AND I'M SURE WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENT'S CONCERN MAY BE, IF THERE WAS OTHER RESIDENTS WAS THE PARKING MM-HMM
'CAUSE I KNOW, LIKE HE SAID, THE CHURCH WILL ACCOMMODATE SO MUCH, BUT THERE'S ONLY 86 PARKING SPACES.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN WE DO FOUR AND FIVE TOGETHER? YEAH.
AND FOR ITEM CP 25 0 6 0 2, ALONG WITH ITEM FIVE ZERO N 2 5 0 6 0 0 2, 1.
UM, YOU, HOW DO I SAY MOVE TO APPROVE.
SO I MOVED TO NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I VOTE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANTS AS OKAY.
BUT WE WILL SEE IF THIS WORKS.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, NOT WITHSTANDING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS, RAISE YOUR HAND.
WE MAY NOT HAVE SAID THAT RIGHT, SAVANNAH, BUT CAN YOU WORK WITH THAT
[6. SUP-25-05-0018 - Specific Use Permit – 3322 S Gilbert Rd (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for Heavy Truck Repair and Outside Storage at 3322 S Gilbert Rd, Lot Tract 7, John C. Read Survey, Abstract No. 1183, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial (LI), and addressed as 3322 S Gilbert Rd]
NUMBER SIX IS SUP 2 5 0 5 0 0 1 8.IT IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR HEAVY TRUCK REPAIR AND OUTSIDE STORAGE AT PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 3 3 2 2 SOUTH GILBERT ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED.
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND WEST OF THE SITE ARE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND PROPERTIES EAST OF THE SIDE ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY FIVE.
SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDE INDUSTRIAL AND OUTSIDE STORAGE USES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AND CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY GA TRUCKING AND TRAILER SERVICE.
GA TRUCKING AND TRAILER SERVICE PROVIDES REPAIR AND GENERAL MAINTENANCE SERVICES FOR COMMERCIAL TRUCKS AND TRAILERS.
ONSITE STORAGE OF VEHICLES AND PARTS SUCH AS OIL AND OTHER UH, FILTERS IS REQUIRED FOR THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.
THERE ARE HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM SATURDAY, 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM SUNDAY.
THEY ARE CLOSED VEHICLES ON SITE.
THEY'LL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 VEHICLES AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
THIS WILL INCLUDE EMPLOYEE AND CUSTOMER VEHICLES.
AND IN RESPONSE TO STAFF COMMENTS, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT REPLACEMENT FENCING, PROVIDE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCT A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, AND PROVIDE A NEW COMMERCIAL DRIVE APPROACH.
THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE SHOWN ON THE PLANS TO THE RIGHT.
UM, THE PROPOSED FENCE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY IS SHOWN IN RED COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY AND YELLOW PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS IN BLUE.
AND OUR PROPOSED DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IN GREEN, WE SENT 30 NOTICES.
ZERO RE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED OPPOSED.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY SHALL GENERALLY COMPLY WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESS REGULATIONS IS REQUIRED.
THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MEASURING A MINIMUM OF 12 FEET BY 12 FEET INSIDE MEASUREMENTS WITH A 40 FOOT HEAD-ON APPROACH, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE CONCRETE PAVING MEETING THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC IN ALL PARKING AREAS.
THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A COMMERCIAL DRIVE APPROACH AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
AN EIGHT FOOT TALL WOOD SCREENING FENCE COMPLYING WITH ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE UDC SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND SHOULD YOU APPROVE THEIR REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO, UM, OBTAIN A VALID CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
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COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONERSO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE THAT ABUTTED A HUNDRED FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT AND THEY HAD TO PUT UP EITHER A WR IRON FENCE OR MASONRY'S FENCE.
AND IN THIS ONE, THIS TRUCKING THING, LITERALLY A BUS, A CUL-DE-SAC WITH SINGLE FAMILY TAX HOMES AND REQUIREMENT IS A WOODEN FENCE.
UM, DOES THAT SEEM FABRIC TO YOU? IT IS INTERESTING.
HOWEVER, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ALSO APPROVED A SPECIFIC Q PER USE PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE.
AND PART OF THEIR CONDITION FOR THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WAS ALSO AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID WOOD SCREENING FENCE.
SO STAFF, UM, FEELS THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THAT FENCING ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.
IT JUST SEEMS VERY, UH, I DUNNO, LIGHT COMPARED TO, IF I, IF I MAY INTERJECT.
SO THE, THE PREVIOUS WAS A TOTALLY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
STAFF TRIED TO RECOMMEND AN, A REASONABLE KIND OF COMPROMISE, IF YOU WILL.
IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FEELS STRONGLY AND WOULD LIKE TO CONDITION APPROVAL WITH THE MASONRY WALL, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.
I DON'T THE PROBLEM THIS, BUT LITERALLY IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAPS, THERE'S, BUT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE COURT AND HE'S BACKYARDS.
BUT COSMETICALLY, I MEAN THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A WOOD FENCE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING AT? YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING I, I, I'M ASSUMING, I'M JUST ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FURTHER, YOU SEE MORE OF THE SAME, BUT YOU, YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE, MAKES THREE YARD IRON FENCE.
AND THIS COULD BE A WOODEN FENCE.
SO, SO WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE? IS A NOISE WALL STUDY DONE WITH THIS ONE? WELL, EVEN IF IT WAS, LOOK AT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
I THINK THEY'RE BE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AT ALL, OTHER THAN JUST HOW ABOVE THAT, THAT UH MM-HMM.
THINK THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET LEGAL NOW, SO.
'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN OPERATION OVER A YEAR ALREADY.
RIGHT? IS THIS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN IN OPERATION OVER A YEAR? YES, MA'AM.
SO TECHNICALLY IT'S, UH, WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL HERE.
SO WHAT DID YOU SAY, SAVANNAH? WE COULD DO, WE COULD AUGMENT THE FIXING IF YOU WANT.
COULD CONDITION AT, AT A CONDITION THAT THEY PROVIDE A MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG WITH EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
SO COSMETICALLY, HOW'S THAT GONNA LOOK COMPARED TO WHAT'S AROUND THERE? 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO HAVE, GET THIS VISUAL BACK OF HOW FAR IS THE OTHER, THE WOODEN FENCE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THAT, AND PART OF ONE PERSON'S BACKYARD IS GONNA BE PART, IF IT TURNS OUT MASONRY, HE'S PART OF IT'S GONNA BE MASONRY.
THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH WILL BE PART MASONRY AND THE REST WILL BE WOOD.
SO, UM, THAT'LL LOOK A LITTLE WEIRD.
THAT WOULD, FOR THE RESIDENCE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, IS THAT IF THERE'S SOME, UH, WOODEN FENCES IN THE PROX, CLOSE PROXIMITY WOULD MAKE SENSE TO KEEP THE WOOD GOING.
BUT IF IT'S GONNA BE, I MEAN, THEN YOU WOULD, BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU MIGHT WANNA ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, TO FIND OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU ARE GONNA BE GOING INTO AN AREA THAT'S RE RESIDENTIAL BACKING RESIDENTIAL, TO BE FAIR, I MEAN, THOSE FOLKS ARE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE PAYING TAXES.
IS THIS GONNA BE, SO IS THIS A SCENARIO? THANK YOU FOR LEAVING THAT PICTURE UP THERE.
SO IS THAT GONNA BE FENCE TO FENCE WHERE THERE'S LIKE A DESK SPACE IN BETWEEN? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
WHENEVER YOU SEE THAT, OBVIOUSLY YOU YEAH, WE CAN ASK THAT.
IS THE APPLICANT, APPLICANT IS HERE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE CHAIR.
WE HAVE A CARD FROM SOMEONE WHO SAYS THEY'RE THE CASE.
SO THAT WILL BE, MAYBE WE'LL ACT, WE'LL ASK THAT PERSON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE CARD FROM NICK LOKEN, UH, FROM FOR NEXT.
BUT WE HAVE NO CARDS FOR THIS.
WE HAVE NO CARDS FOR THIS PERSON.
SO THAT, THAT DOES NOT GIVE ME A GOOD FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO BE MADE AND THE THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.
WELL, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT THE SCENARIO IS.
BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A, A NOTE TO SAY WHY WE'RE NOT HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF DISRESPECTFUL IF YOU'RE BRINGING A CASE TO THE TABLE AND THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO EXPLAIN THEIR THEIR SIDE.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY.
BUT THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST, UM, IN TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP.
SO WHILE THAT MAY BE IMPOLITE IN YOUR MIND, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPOLITE.
I MEAN, I, I, THE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, NOT ONLY ARE THEY NOT HERE, THEY ONLY HAD, THEY HAD ONE YEAR OF BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
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I DO HAVE A QUESTION THERE, IF I COULD.IN REGARDS JUST TO THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO, UM, IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A YEAR OR A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR, MAYBE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME OF ENFORCEMENT WHERE I WOULD JUST, WELL, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO ASK THE APPLICANT OR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON REPRESENTING THIS BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, AMICABLE OR, UH, THEY WORK TOWARDS JUST WORKING WITH THE CITY AND ENSURING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS SLAPPED AND SAY, HEY, YOU GOTTA GET BACK IN COMPLIANCE.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE AND HE'S BEEN WILLING AND FORTH, THAT CERTAINLY CHANGES AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S WANTING TO GET THINGS RIGHT.
AND IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE, UH, THE APPLICANT TRYING TO GET THINGS RIGHT FROM THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT? OKAY.
DO YOU KNOW, HAS THIS BUSINESS BEEN SOLD RECENTLY? I I DO NOT KNOW.
I KNOW THAT THE, THE APPLICANT, THE TENANT THAT'S THERE THAT'S MAKING THE REQUEST IS ON A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE.
AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OPERATION AT THIS LOCATION BY GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
BECAUSE IF IT IS, HAS BEEN PURCHASED OR, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN THEY HAD TO GET THEIR OWN CO MM-HMM
AND SO THAT COULD EXPLAIN SOME OF IT.
IT MAKES A LOT THE MONTH TO MONTH THING.
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT MAKES A, A BIG DIFFERENCE.
BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER FOR DURO, THIS IS YOUR AREA.
SO YOU, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? OH, I, I JUST HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO THE, THE WOODEN FENCE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE, THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE MM-HMM
WHERE CAN YOU SEE IT ON THIS MAP? IS IT THE PARCEL JUST TAKE TO THE NORTH OR WHERE IT IS? IT'S THE PARCEL THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH.
AND, AND IF YOU CAN SEE COMMISSIONER, IT DOES KIND OF START WHERE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HEADS ON NORTH AND IS CONTINUED PAST THE KIND OF FIRST GROUPING OF SINGLE FAMILY TWO.
DO YOU HAVE A POINTER? DO YOU HAVE A POINTER? WE CAN SEE, OH, LET'S SEE.
CAN YOU SEE MY, CAN YOU SEE MY MOUSE? YES.
SO STARTING, AND LET ME BACK UP AND JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT THAT THE EXISTING FENCE THAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, AND I THINK MAYBE WE'LL SPEAK TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED A MOMENT AGO.
THERE IS NOT FENCING TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
YOU HAVE KIND OF A MIXTURE OF AN EXISTING SIX FOOT, MAYBE WOOD FENCE THAT GOES UP KIND OF ALONG IN THIS AREA.
THEN IT, UH, TAPERS DOWN TO A, A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORTER CHAIN LINK FENCE.
AND THEN RIGHT AT THIS CORNER HERE, WHERE THE CHAIN LINKING ON THIS PROPERTY STOPS THE WOOD FENCE FOR THE PROPERTY HERE INTO ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.
BEGINS THAT EIGHT FEET TALKING.
SO WITH THAT, OKAY, THANK YOU.
THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPORTANT PIECE OF DATA THAT OKAY.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IF WE APPROVE IT AS YOU'VE ASKED, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE BEING NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'LL HAVE CONTINUITY NOW FACE IN A NORTH SOUTH ORIENTATION, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHANNEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
DO WE NEED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THIS? I'M, I, I, I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GUYS DOING A LOT ARE VERY MUCH THE SAME RIGHT NOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.
AND GIVEN WHAT SHE JUST SAID ABOUT HOW IT WOULD NOW MAKE THE ENTIRE FENCE LINE THERE, UNIFORM AND WOOD, I, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION, WHICH Y'ALL DON'T HAVE, UH, SUPPORT TO VOTE.
I, I CHANGED MY RECOMMENDATION AFTER FINDING UP, AFTER REMEMBERING THE MONTH TO MONTH, WHICH COULD COME.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN MADE APPOINT THAT APPARENTLY IS PROBABLY NOT THE SAME PERSON THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PERSON THAT, UH, HAD THIS PROJECT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, IT PROBABLY IS SOMEBODY NEW AND, UH, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I WILL RELY ON YOUR EXPERTISE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER FOR DCO? THAT I JUST GOT THE JOHN THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A NEW TO SURROUNDS POINT THERE.
IT'S GRANDFATHERED AND IT WOULD CREATE THIS, YOU KNOW, UNIFORM FENCE TO YOUR POINT.
SO THAT'S, I KIND OF, UH, I BELIEVE AT LEAST THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE BEST THING TO DO IN THIS SCENARIO, BUT THAT'S MY VIEW.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX UP DASH 25 DASH FIVE EIGHT, UH, WITH ALL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SIX BY COMMISSIONER FOR DURO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLEY AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[7. SUP-25-03-0015 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Midtown Pickleball and Retail (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for Amusement Services (Indoor), a restaurant with a drive-through, and a multi-tenant building within Midtown Development on 8.083 acres. Lot 7, Block 1, Slink Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-397, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District and tentatively addressed as 3505 S Hwy 161]
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NUMBER SEVEN IS A SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SLASH SITE PLAN REQUEST SUP 25 0 3 0 0 1 5.THIS IS FOR A MIDDLE, UH, MIDTOWN PICKLEBALL AND RETAIL.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN SUP SITE PLAN FOR, UM, INDOOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES, UM, USE IN A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH AND A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
THEY'RE GENERALLY LOCATED THIS CORNER NORTH OF, UM, THE MOST RECENTLY APPROVED RETAIL CENTERS AND, UM, TO THE EAST OF THE CALERA APARTMENTS.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING THREE PART, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE FIRST CORNER INCLUDES A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.
THE CENTER PORTION INCLUDES A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
AND TO THE, UM, NOR MOST PORTION, THEY ARE PROPOSING A PICKLEBALL KINGDOM FACILITY, WHICH WILL BE A MEMBERSHIP BASED INDOOR PICKLEBALL COURT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A, UM, BUILDING HEIGHT VARIANCE FOR THE PICKLEBALL KINGDOM.
THE ALL ALLOW MAXIMUM HEIGHT AT THIS CURRENT ZONING WITH THE GR BASED ZONING IS 25 FEET.
THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL KINGDOM IS ACTUALLY, UH, 30 FEET.
THEY ARE, UM, PROVIDING SOME LANDSCAPE THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO PLANT, UM, MINIMUM NUMBER OF TREES CURRENTLY.
UM, THEY DO NOT REALLY HAVE ANY, UM, AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO PLANT THE STREET TREES.
THIS RENDERING, UH, REPRESENTS THEIR IDEA A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL.
SO AGAIN, THE, GENERALLY THEY HAVE 1, 2, 3.
THIS IS APPLICABLE KINGDOM BUILDING.
AND THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE, UM, MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WILL INCLUDE A OUTDOOR AMENITY AREA.
SO AGAIN, UM, THE TENANTS ARE NOT FIXED.
THESE ARE JUST REPRESENTATION IMAGE, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO, UM, DO A RESTAURANT AND A PICKLEBALL INDOOR COURT AND THIS MULTITENANT BUILDING.
SO ONE, UH, POSITIVE ASPECT ABOUT THE MULTITENANT BUILDING IS THEY'RE USING THE CENTRAL AREA WRAPPED AROUND BY THE BUILDING CORNERS AS A OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WITH POSSIBLE SCREENING AND SOME FURNITURES OUT THERE.
THEY ARE PROVIDING THE APPENDIX OF MENU ITEMS. SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MULTIPLE VARIANCES.
UM, THEY'RE A, THERE'S EIGHT TOTAL.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE LANDSCAPE VARIANCE.
AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING STREET TREES.
TWO IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE PICKLE BANK KINGDOM TO BE 30 FEET.
THE THIRD ONE IS FOR THE RESTAURANT BUILDING TO, UM, HAVE LESS THAN 50% OF THE OVERALL WINDOW.
REQUIREMENT NUMBER FOUR, FIVE ARE FOR THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE CANOPY REQUIREMENT, I'M SORRY, THE OVERALL WINDOW REQUIREMENT.
AND ALSO THE CANOPY REQUIREMENT NUMBER SIX THROUGH EIGHT IS FOR THE PICKLEBALL KINGDOM.
THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE OVERALL WINDOWS OR THE, UM, FRONT FACADE HEAVY MINIMUM 30% OF GLAZING OR THE CANOPY.
SO HERE'S THE RC RECOMMENDATION.
WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER SHOULD BE PROVIDED ALONG 1 61.
THIS WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW THEM TO PLANT THE REQUIRED, UH, STREET TREES.
NUMBER TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED EV PARKING.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY WERE TRYING TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT AS AN AMENITY.
WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, TOO MUCH WHERE STAFF BELIEVES THAT, UM, PROVIDING PROBABLY 25 VERSUS NINE ONE SPACES PROPOSED OUT OF A 250 PARKING WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY ALSO ASKING THE PICKLE BOOK, UH, KINGDOM BUILDING TO REDUCE THE OVERALL, UH, PERCENTAGE OF METAL PANELS AND THE BLUE COLOR.
WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITATION ON THE EXIT MATERIALS AND THE COLORS.
WE'RE SAYING WE RESPECT THAT YOUR PROTOTYPE HAS CERTAIN IMAGES.
HOWEVER, CONSIDERING THAT, UH, IT'S IN THE APPENDIX, IF WE JUST WANNA WORK WITH THEM TO ACHIEVE CERTAIN PERCENTAGES, THAT'S, UM, ACCEPTABLE.
AND NUMBER FOUR, DRIVEWAY DESIGN AND LOCATION MUST BE APPROVED BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES.
AS BRETT MENTIONED DURING THE STAFF BRIEFING, THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THEIR COMMENTS, WHICH WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL PACKET.
LASTLY, IS A DRAINAGE STUDY OR DETENTION SHALL BE PROVIDED.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY STANDARD COMMENT FROM OUR ENGINEERING.
THIS WAS NOT PROVIDED, BUT STAFF IS OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS THEY'RE PROVIDED FOR THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEWS.
THIS CON CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE HERE.
IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? OKAY, PERMISSION FOR DCO.
ISN'T IT TRUE IT COSTS THEM MORE MONEY TO MAKE A PARKING SPACE EV COMPLIANT? POSSIBLY.
I DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW THE COST.
BUT WHAT ARE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THEY'RE PROPOSING 91 PARKING SPACES TO BE ALL EV CHARGING STATIONS.
TYPICALLY, WE DON'T REALLY CONSIDER EV CHARGED, UH, PARKING TO BE PART OF THE REQUIRED PARKING,
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CONSIDERING THAT THEY HAVE SOME USES THAT REQUIRE REGULAR PARKING.WE FEEL THAT MAYBE REDUCING THAT NUMBER FROM 93 TO UM, SOMEWHERE AROUND 25 IS SUFFICIENT.
I KNOW YOU WANT TO REDUCE IT, BUT YEAH, THEY, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S BETTER FOR THEIR, THEY THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
TO DO IT THE MORE EXPENSIVE WAY.
WHICH IS TO HAVE A, A CHARGING AND EACH PARKING SPACE.
IF YOU FEEL THAT'S NO, I'M JUST ASKING.
SO AGAIN, STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THAT IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THAT MANY SPACES BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THEY'RE GONNA PARK THERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CUSTOMER PARKING PROVIDED VERSUS SOME PEOPLE JUST ME MAYBE LEAVE THEIR CARS THERE CHARGED FOR A LONG EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT OFF THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN, OR WE CAN ASK.
THAT'S A VERY, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THOUGH YOU MAKE, IS THEY'RE ADDING MORE.
HE'S NOT, HE'S ADDING AMENITIES.
WHICH IS FANCY, VERY FANCY AD.
IT'S LIKE VALET PARKING, I GUESS.
AGAIN, 91 PIECE BEING 36%, WE THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER OVERDONE.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ANY COMM QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? MM-HMM.
NICK
SPEAK STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I RESIDE AT 9 6 5 5 WORTH ROAD IN COPPEL, TEXAS, 7 5 0 1 9.
AND THANK Y'ALL FOR WORKING LATE TONIGHT.
I'M LIKE SUPER TIRED, BUT I BET Y'ALL ARE TOO.
UM, SO THE EV I GUESS WE'LL JUST START FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, I'M REPRESENTING NEWCOR DEVELOPMENT AND MY COMPANY NLCC.
UH, WE BUILD, WE DEVELOP, WE DESIGN, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE REALLY COOL, BEAUTIFUL, FAMILY FRIENDLY, SAFE PLACES FOR COMMUNITIES AROUND DFW.
UM, I HAVE A LOT OF YEARS LEFT, HOPEFULLY, AND SO I WANT TO BE A STAPLED IN THE DFWB COMMUNITY, JUST BUILDING THINGS THAT LAST AND THINGS THAT ARE JUST, UM, EYE-OPENING, JUST REALLY COOL PLACES TO GO AND VISIT.
I THINK DFW NEEDS A LOT OF INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL.
I HAVE A 4-YEAR-OLD AND IT IS SUPER HOT IN THE SUMMERS
AND SO MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE AT LIKE A CHICK-FIL-A PLAYGROUND OR MCDONALD'S PLAYGROUND, LIKE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE MEXICAN FOOD THAT HAS A PLAYGROUND SOMEDAY.
BUT, UM, I REMEMBER GOING BOWLING WITH MY, MY GRANDPARENTS AND THAT WAS LIKE, WHAT A HUGE STAPLE IN MY MEMORY.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT HERE.
SO I RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY AND YOU SEE GRANDPARENTS AND GRANDKIDS PLAYING, YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, UM, PARENTS PLAYING WITH THEIR KIDS.
SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY NEAT THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT, THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE DINING AND SHOPPING ASPECT.
AND THEN WITH THE APPENDIX F UM, AMENITIES THAT WE'RE OFFERING.
I MEAN, YOU CAN COME HERE AND JUST HANG OUT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR CAR IF YOU NEED TO.
I KNOW I PUT A LOT OF SPACES THERE, BUT I WAS TRYING TO OVERDELIVER RATHER THAN UNDERDELIVER.
AND WE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE AS MANY AWAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, UM, NECESSARY.
IF YOU HAVE AN EV IT CAN BE OPEN PARKING RANDOMLY ENOUGH.
I HAVE A FLEET OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES RIGHT NOW, AND MY GAS BILL IS $3,000 A MONTH PER VEHICLE.
AND RANDOMLY, I JUST GOT A TESLA CYBER TRUCK, NEVER EVEN THOUGHT I WOULD DRIVE ONE.
AND IT'S, UM, I SWITCHED MY POWER COMPANY TO TESLA.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE ELECTRIC SERVICE PROVIDER.
AND NOW I GET TO CHARGE MY TRUCK FOR FREE.
AND SO NOW I'M LIKE IN THIS WORLD WHERE, WHERE I HAVE TO GO TO THESE CHARGING STATIONS.
BUT WHAT DOES IT DO? IT GETS YOU OUTTA YOUR CAR AND, UH, YOU SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES.
SO THAT'S A HUGE OTHER POINT OF THIS.
IT'S, IT'S FINANCIAL STABILITY FOR THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A YEAR BUILD, UM, A TON OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS HERE VISITING ALL THE RESTAURANTS AROUND IT.
UM, AND THEN ONCE IT'S FINISHED, YOU HAVE JUST HOPEFULLY THRIVING BUSINESSES, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
UM, RIGHT NEXT TO IT BACKS UP TO HOMES.
THIS IS, IF YOU SAW THE RENDERINGS, THIS IS, IT LOOKS AMAZING WHEN YOU'RE AROUND GREATNESS.
AND SO HOPEFULLY OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE SURROUNDING HOUSES OF COMMUNITIES JUST, UM, RAISE UP AND, AND, UH, REMODEL AND UPLIFT THEIR, THEIR APPEARANCE AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'M, I THINK, THINK ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, WE CAN EASILY MEET.
UM, WE WERE A LITTLE RUSHED, BUT I THINK THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING, WE CAN EASILY ADD MORE WINDOWS.
WE CAN EASILY ADD MORE CANOPIES.
WE CAN EASILY TAKE AWAY THE METAL PANELS
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ON THE FRONT.UM, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL VERY, VERY SIMPLE CHANGES.
AND, UM, THE TREES, IF WE CAN ADD THAT FIVE, I THINK IT KIND OF LOOKED WEIRD WITHOUT THE STREET TREES.
I WOULD DEFINITELY, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY NECESSARY TO HAVE THOSE.
THEY CAN HELP WITH NOISE AND THEY CAN HELP WITH, UM, JUST LOOKS THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, ADD A LITTLE TO THE OVERALL, UM, PROJECT.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME POSSIBLE TENANTS.
WE HAVE A COFFEE SHOP FRANCHISE OUT OF HAWAII.
WE HAVE, UM, I MEAN THE, THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY SAY IT'S A 10 YEAR LEASE, IT IN 10 YEARS, IT MIGHT, PICKLEBALL MIGHT NOT BE THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICA.
UM, SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S BOWLING, THERE'S, UH, INDOOR BATTING CAGES.
UM, I MEAN, OPTIONS ARE ENDLESS INDOOR AMUSEMENT AMUSEMENT PARKS THESE DAYS.
SO, UM, EVERY TIME WE BRING THIS UP TO A POTENTIAL INVESTOR, THEIR EYES JUST GET WIDE BECAUSE OF ALSO IT BEING IN THAT ENTERTAINMENT POCKET OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
IT'S JUST LIKE, THIS IS THE PLACE TO GO IF YOU GUYS WANNA HAVE FUN IN THIS TOWN.
SO A LOT OF INVESTORS ARE REALLY KIND OF DRAWN TO THIS AREA RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
SO I KNOW EVERYONE'S LATE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN HELP ANSWER, I'M HAPPY TO.
UM, SO IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF EV STATIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON, IS THAT A DETERRENT TO YOU? NO, NOT AT ALL.
I MEAN, WE WERE TRYING TO MEET THE APPENDIX F STANDARDS AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE SOMETHING COOL.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT, BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME FEDERAL MONIES FOR BUSINESSES THAT ADD EV STATIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF YOUR BUSINESS PLAN.
I AM SEEING A LOT OF INCENTIVES MM-HMM
BUT THAT WASN'T REALLY MOTIVATION, A THOUGHT OF MOTIVATION AND NOW HAVING ONE.
BEING A DIESEL TRUCK OWNER, MY WHOLE LIFE CONSTRUCTION WORKER, MY WHOLE LIFE.
LIKE, I WAS SHOPPING FOR F THREE FIFTIES, LIKE RIGHT.
I'M NOT GOING BATTERY, BUT I HAVE ONE.
AND I'M LIKE, WHY? WHY DOES NOT EVERYONE HAVE ONE? AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE IT DOES HAPPEN.
AND SO I THINK THE PLACES THAT ARE PREPPED FOR THAT, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THEM.
I MEAN, I JUST NEVER EXPECTED TO BE DRIVING LIKE AN ELECTRIC TRUCK, BUT I AM.
AND THEN, UM, IN ORDER TO, UH, GAIN THE FIVE FEET TO ADD THE TREES ALONG 1 61 MM-HMM
ARE YOU OKAY WITH LOSING THAT BACK ROW BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING IF THAT COMES TO THAT OR, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS TO NOT EVEN LOSE THAT, BUT, OKAY.
LIKE THE BUILDING ABLE, ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IT, THE BUILDINGS CAN SHRINK.
THE, UM, IS THE BLUE AND THE METAL ON THE PICKLEBALL KING OR PICKLEBALL, WHAT IS THERE? IT CALLED KINGDOM.
KINGDOM? IS THAT PART OF THAT BUILDING, THE BLUE AND THE METAL THAT THAT STAFF WAS ASKING TO REDUCE? CORRECT.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN COLORS FOR THAT FRANCHISE.
AND, UM, BUT THAT'S NOT LIKE, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT MUCH.
LIKE, I'M BUILDING THE 50,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY IN FORT WORTH RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S JUST THE LOGO.
ON THE SIDE WE HAVE MURALS OF PICKLEBALL PLAYERS, LIKE OKAY.
VERY, UM, THAT WAS ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN TOO.
LIKE, I WANNA BRING IN LOCAL ARTISTS.
THERE'S A, I MEAN, THAT'S A HUGE WALL THAT WE CAN PUT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST KIND OF EYE-OPENING OR, UH, BEAUTIFYING THAT, THAT AREA TOO.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MUST HAVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT.
SO HOW MANY MORE OF THESE HAVE YOU ALREADY DONE IN THE, IN WITH THE INSIDE PICKLEBALL? I AM DOING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW IN, IN, UH, FORT WORTH.
UM, THE FRANCHISE OWNER JUST CHANGED AND THE PERSON THAT IT JUST CHANGED TO BOUGHT 20 TERRITORIES.
UM, SO SOME ARE IN DFW, SOME ARE OUTSIDE OF A FWI TRAVELED FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS SURROUNDING STATES, BUILDING LARGE TRUCK DEALERSHIPS FOR PETERBILT.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GO, I'M TRYING TO BE HOME EVERY NIGHT RIGHT NOW
SO, UM, I DID BASEBALL, INDOOR BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITIES FOR DA, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS A PART OF THEIR GROWTH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M MM-HMM
SO
UH, LUCKY VI WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A, UM, A LITTLE COMMENT.
UM, I TRAVELED, UM, BACK FROM TEXAS TO FLORIDA WITH, UH, MILITARY ADAPTIVE SPORTS, UM, THAT OFF OF PICKLEBALL AND 17 YEARS AGO, I FOUND MYSELF ALSO OWNING AND DRIVING A TESLA.
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE NOT ONE ORGANIZATION IN GRANTFORD WHERE I HAD TO LITERALLY LIKE GO BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP.
I DON'T THINK THAT 91, UH, PARKING SPACE IS A LOT BASED ON WHAT I SEE WHEN I TRAVEL WITH THE SPORT FOOTBALL.
AND NOW KIND OF BEING, HAVING THAT TRUCK FOR A LITTLE BIT.
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I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS THIS, IT TAKES LIKE NINE HOURS FOR A, FOR A TRUCK TO CHARGE LIKE, ON, ON SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON HERE.THEY HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED SUPER CHARGERS.
AND THEY CHARGE YOUR TRUCK IN 30 MINUTES AND IT'S 20 BUCKS.
LIKE, THAT WOULD BE COOL HERE.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME IDEAS THAT WE CAN DO, SOME WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER.
UM, BUT I MEAN, IT'S A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE PEOPLE ARE JUST LIKE, BEFORE IT ALL GOES.
'CAUSE THEY'RE MAKING IT TOO EASY.
I THINK THAT YOU, YOU OFFER A LOT.
AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU WANNA OVER OVERDO, WHICH MEANS, WHICH MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL BE DRAWN TO, WELL, LET'S GO OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE, THE, THE CHARGING STATIONS AND I CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
I CAN EAT AND HAVE FUN AND THEN GET MY CAR CHARGED AT THE, I MEAN, UH, FUELED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT, IT, IT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES JUST BECAUSE IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT, UH, WEREN'T, WEREN'T TALKED ABOUT.
THERE'S LIKE A, WHERE WE LIVE, WE LIVE IN LIKE A LIVE WORK, UH, SPACE.
IT'S A CY, IT'S CALLED CYPRESS WATERS AND COPPEL, IT'S MOLDY FAMILY CORPORATE COMMUNITY RESTAURANTS.
AND THEY HAVE LIKE A PUTTING GREEN THAT YOU CAN GO OUT TO.
SO WE PUT ONE OF THOSE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RIDE SHARE, DROP OFF AREA, UM, AS YOU PULL INTO MIDTOWN.
SO, UM, THERE'S A DESIGNATED SPOT FOR THAT.
THERE'S THE, THE PUTTING GREEN THAT YOU CAN WAIT AT, YOUR KIDS CAN ROLL AROUND.
AND, UM, THERE, I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT THAT WE CAN DO TO KIND OF GET PEOPLE OUTSIDE, GET COMMUNITY, GET FAMILIES TOGETHER.
UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A FUN PROJECT TO DO.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THINKING GRAND PRAIRIE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN'S, UH, AREA.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE GOOD? NO, THAT'S GREAT.
I THINK, I THINK, UM, I, I, I'M PLANNING ON, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION AND STRIKE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND LET HIM KEEP HIS 91 SPACES.
SO, UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, UM, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SEP 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 5, UM, INCLUDING ALL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS MINUS ITEM NUMBER TWO, ALLOWING THEM TO REMAIN WITH THE 91 SPACES, THE EV SPACES.
I A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCKY VAUGHN AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS MINUS UH, NUMBER TWO.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THAT BEING THE LAST CASE, WE ARE DONE AT 8:28 PM.