Jun 02, 2025 Building Advisory & Appeals Board

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[CALL TO ORDER]

FIRST ITEM ON THE

[1. Minutes of the Monday, May 5, 2025 BAAB]

SO I LET THE BOARD HAVE A MINUTE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD.

OKAY.

I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT MINUTES AS IS FROM 15.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIED BY VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[2. Hearing Concerning Dangerous Structure(s) located at 1605 Acosta ]

TURN IT OVER TO STAFF AT THIS TIME FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

I THINK THIS IS THE, UH, THIRD TIME FOR THIS ONE.

AND I'M, UH, THIS IS OVER HERE NORTH OF KINGSTON AND, UH, WEST OF BELTLINE.

THIS IS THE HOUSE WITH A HOLE IN THE ROOF.

AND IT WAS DISCOVERED IN 2023, UH, ON A COMPLAINT WITH THE OVER HANGING TREE LIMBS.

AT THAT TIME, THE, THE CODE OFFICER ADDRESSED THE, UH, THE HOLE IN THE ROOF WITH THE OWNER, AND, UH, SHE WAS EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS, SHE WAS HAVING FINANCIAL DI DIFFICULTIES AND, UH, THEY ACTUALLY DID OBTAIN A PERMIT TO REPAIR THE ROOF, BUT IT, IT, IT HAS SINCE EXPIRED.

SO WE WERE HERE IN APRIL.

THIS WAS, THIS WAS SATURDAY.

IT HASN'T, THEY MOWED THE YARD.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE BACKYARD.

'CAUSE IT WAS A MESS WHEN WE, WE WERE HERE.

THAT WAS OUR INTERIOR INSPECTION IN APRIL.

AND Y'ALL, UH, THESE ARE THE FINDINGS IN APRIL.

Y'ALL FOUND THAT, THAT IT WAS, THE OWNER DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT TIMER FUNDING AT THE TIME.

YOU WERE GONNA GIVE HER MORE TIME TO PROVIDE UPDATES AND, AND HELP.

AND SO YOU KNOWALL MET AGAIN THEN IN MAY, APRIL.

DIDN'T DO IT.

MAY YOU KNOWALL MET, MET AGAIN IN MAY AND IN, UH, AND ASKED THE OWNER SHALL APPEAR AT THE NEXT BUILDING ADVISORY APPEALS BOARD MEETING ON, ON MAY 5TH, UH, WITH A DETAILED PLAN, A CONTRACTOR, WHICH INCLUDES A PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE NEXT 30, 60, 90 DAYS.

AND THAT SHE, SHE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I, THERE WASN'T A REAL DETAILED PLAN THAT SHE PRESENTED.

SO IN MAY WE HELD THE HEARING AND THE PROPERTY THAT, AT THE HEARING, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DID NOT PRESENT THE DETAIL PLAN AND TIME SCHEDULE FOR THE WORK.

THE LORD MADE THE F THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL FINDINGS.

THE OWNER DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE, BUT THE DATE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED IN THE ORDER AND ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS WILL ALLOW THE OWNER SUFFICIENT TIME TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO THAT WAS MAY, JUNE, JULY, SHOULD BE IN, IN COMPLIANCE.

BUT THEN IN OR IN MAY, YOU ORDER THE STRUCTURE, REPAIR, REMOVE, OR DEMOLISH IN A ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAW NO LATER THAN JULY 4TH, WHICH WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT SHE SHALL APPEAR AT THIS BUILDING AND ADVISE HER.

AND APPEALS BOARD MEETING ON JUNE 2ND, UH, HERE AT CITY HALL CHAMBERS AND, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS WITH A

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THE BOARD MAY CONSIDER EXTENDING THE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE AT THIS TIME.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S HERE OR NOT.

HAS, HAS, HAS THE OWNER PROVIDED Y'ALL WITH ANY KIND OF PLAN? I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HER.

OKAY.

LAST TIME YOU SPOKE TO HER.

WELL, I MEAN, WHEN WE, THE LAST MEETING.

MEETING.

MEETING.

OKAY.

AND I BELIEVE SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE HERE NOW, BUT, GOT YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? OOPS.

NO QUESTIONS.

STAFF IS, UH, MS. MALONE, IS MS. MALONE IN THE AUDIENCE? YES, SIR.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MS. MALONE.

HI.

IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

OKAY.

JILL MALONE.

MY ADDRESS IS 1 6 0 5 ACOSTA STREET, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 1.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A DETAILED PLAN FROM A CONTRACTOR? UH, THAT INCLUDES A PLAN OF ACTION? OKAY.

IN THE NEXT 30, 60, 90 AND 120 DAYS AT THIS TIME, THIS IS PARTIAL OF THE PLAN.

THE, MY CONTRACTOR HAD BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT.

AND SO, UM, TODAY HE'S TRYING TO SEND ME PARTIAL OF IT.

AND SO I WAS WAITING ON HIM.

MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S WHY I'M LATE BECAUSE I WAS AT THE, UH, LIBRARY HOPING THAT IT WILL COME THROUGH, BUT IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH.

'CAUSE HE'S, HE'S AT HOME AND HE'S NOT ABLE TO, SOMETHING'S GOING ON.

BUT WHAT I HAD PERSONALLY DONE, I HAD GONE THROUGH TO, JUST TO LET HIM KNOW WHERE I WAS STANDING WITH EVERYTHING.

AND SO I HAD PERSONALLY, UM, KIND OF SHOWED HIM WHAT I WAS NEEDING.

AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, I WANNA PRESENT AT THIS TIME AS FAR AS WHAT I BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL ARE ASKING FOR TIMEFRAME.

BUT WHAT I GOT FROM HIM IN LOADING DOWN WAS KIND OF PARTIAL OF THE WORK THAT HE'S GONNA DO.

AND, UM, I AM SO, UM, DISAPPOINTED TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE EXACTLY WHAT Y'ALL WERE ASKING ME FOR.

UM, SO I JUST CAN COME WITH WHERE I'M AT TO PRESENT WHAT I HAVE, BUT I DON'T HAVE, YOU CAN SET DOCUMENTS HERE AND THEY CAN SEE THEM.

OH, OKAY.

SO THIS IS, DO I JUST RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT.

AND I'M TO MEET WITH HIM FRIDAY TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA MEET AT 10 O'CLOCK TO GO FORWARD TO JUST SEE WHERE I'M STANDING.

AND NOT ONLY WITH, UH, WHAT HE'S DOING, BUT ALSO FINANCIALLY, UH, UH, WITH THE BANK.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS OF US MEETING SO THAT HE CAN GET STARTED ON THE WORK THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT 1605 ACOA.

SO YOU WROTE THIS, HE DIDN'T WRITE THIS, RIGHT? NO, HE, I, I HAD RESEARCHED SO I COULD UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF WHAT Y'ALL WERE ASKING FOR.

THE AS FOR, SO I KIND OF SHARED WITH HIM THIS INFORMATION, EVEN THOUGH HE PROBABLY KNOW.

BUT TO ME, WHAT I WAS RECEIVING FROM Y'ALL, WHAT Y'ALL WANTED, LET ME PUT THAT BACK DOWN.

LIKE DATELINE AND THEN

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MM-HMM .

OKAY.

LET ME SEE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I HAVE A QUESTION.

MM-HMM .

MR. CONTRACTOR, IS HE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR? HE IS.

AND I DO HAVE, WHAT WAS TRYING THE, THIS IS PARTIAL OF WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO SEND ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL COULD SEE THAT FROM YES MA'AM.

FROM PATRIARCH CONSTRUCTION GROUP.

AND, UM, BUT THAT, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I GO, WELL, IT'S NOT COMPLETED.

LIKE THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

THE MAIN THING THAT WE WERE FOCUSING ON WAS THE FIRST OF ALL, THE ROOF REPAIR.

SO WHEN I SAW THAT, I TOLD HIM, WELL, IT'S NOT DOWNLOADING AND SO WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO SEND ME IS NOT COMING THROUGH.

SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT HE SHARED WITH ME.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY, LIKE I SAID, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN IT, THAT IT'S NOT, UM, MORE DETAILED TO WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINED FOR TODAY.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I AM TODAY.

BUT I AM STILL DILIGENTLY, UM, WORKING ON THE PROJECT AS WELL AS OUTSIDE OF THIS CONTRACTOR REACHING OUT.

I'VE STARTED REACHING OUT TO ANOTHER CONTRACTOR EVEN AS OF TODAY SINCE I HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME.

AND SO THAT I COULD HAVE IT PREPARED TO, UH, SHARE WITH THE BOARD.

HAS THE BACKYARD BEEN CLEANED UP? YES, MA'AM.

HAS THE WINDOWS BEEN REPLACED OR BOARD UP? YEAH.

SO WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS JUST FOR THE ROOF TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

YES.

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SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME ON THE ROOF OR IS HE NOT BEING RESPONSIVE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO AS FAR AS HE'S RESPONSIBLE, I THINK HE WOULD BE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE OF HIS ACCIDENT MAYBE.

BUT EVEN HE RECOMMENDED ME THROUGH HIS FUNDING.

A PERSON THAT THAT'S, I'M GONNA MEET WITH THEM ON FRIDAY.

'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE ATTEMPTED SOME FUNDING, BUT I HADN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL YET.

SO WHEN I MEET WITH HIM ALONG WITH A FUNDER THAT POSSIBLY COULD HELP ME FUND THIS REPAIR, I'LL EVEN KNOW BETTER WHERE I STAND FINANCIALLY.

SO REALLY THE ONLY THING WE'RE WORK, UH, WAITING ON IS THE ROOF.

IF YOU YES.

CLEANED UP THE BACKYARD.

MM-HMM .

CLEARLY CURB APPEAL SHOWS FROM THE PICTURES.

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UH, THAT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

WINDOWS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO IT'S REALLY THE ROOF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

YES.

REMIND ME AGAIN, IS THERE INSURANCE ON THE PROPERTY? WELL, THROUGH MY, THE, THE, UM, MIDLAND MORLAND MIDLAND MORTGAGE UHHUH TOLD ME, BUT WHO I PAY THAT HAS MY FIRST DEAL, AND I HADN'T CONTACTED THEM AS OF YET BECAUSE I WAS TOLD, AND I HAD RECEIVED A PAPER FROM STATE FARM THAT THERE WAS NO INSURANCE.

SO IN MY TIME, UM, I HADN'T BEEN A, I HADN'T REACHED OUT BACK TO THEM 'CAUSE I WAS STILL TRYING TO PURSUE, UM, WHEN THE ATTORNEY LAST TIME SAID THERE WAS INSURANCE, I WAS SURPRISED.

UH, I, I DROPPED THE BALL 'CAUSE I DIDN'T REPLY.

'CAUSE MY MIND IS THINKING I STILL NEED MONEY.

I'M STILL NEEDING TO PROCESS THIS, GETTING THEM FUNDS OTHER THAN THE INSURANCE.

'CAUSE THE INSURANCE, UM, STATE FARM A WHILE BACK BEFORE, NOW, BEFORE IT GOT TO THE POINT OF IT, THEY HAD DENIED ME

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THAT WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT WORD.

BUT I DIDN'T KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM TO FIX IT 'CAUSE I WASN'T IN THE HOME.

UM, I PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY TO EVEN DEAL WITH THAT LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, WHEN HE DID SAY THAT THE HOUSE IS STILL INSURED, UM, GOING THROUGH THE COMPLIANCE OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY, I BELIEVE THAT POSSIBLY THEY WOULDN'T FIX IT, BUT THEY MAY.

I JUST HADN'T REACHED OUT 'CAUSE I WAS STILL TRYING TO FOCUS ON FUNDING THROUGH EQUITY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS KIND OF TRYING TO GO.

IF I COULD GET THE EQUITY OUT OF THE HOUSE, THEN THAT'S WHERE I WOULD REPLACE THE MONEY.

DO YOU PAY A MORTGAGE ON IT? YES MA'AM.

IT SHOULD HAVE INSURANCE ON IT.

YES.

WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT IS FILING A CLAIM TO HAVE THE ROOF REPLACED.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST PAYING THE DEDUCTIBLE.

OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW, MY APOLOGIES TO YOUR CONTRACTOR WHO WAS IN AN ACCIDENT.

HE WAS IN THAT ACCIDENT WHEN YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME.

YEAH.

SO IS IS HE, HE'S, IS HE ON LIFE SUPPORT? IS HE ON IN COMA? WHAT'S GOING ON? MR. MALONE? HE'S, HE'S DOING A LOT BETTER.

UM, I'M STARTING TO QUESTION HIS MOTIVATION TO GET IT DONE.

YEAH.

UM, THAT I'M, I'M HOPING THAT HE'S OKAY.

I'M, I'M HOPING THAT HE'S REALLY DOING ALL THAT HE CAN.

BUT THAT'S WHY ALSO TODAY MY MIND WAS SAYING, OKAY, IF HE DOESN'T DO THIS, IT'S TIME FOR ME TO MM-HMM .

UM, SWITCH OVER.

AND MATTER OF FACT, AT THE LIBRARY , I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS TALKING TO ME AND I EVEN ASKED HIM ABOUT A CONTRACTOR.

SO I GOT HIS NAME SO THAT I CAN FIND SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE JOB AND CONSISTENTLY MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

HELP ME SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY THING WE WERE WAITING ON MM-HMM .

IS FOR THE ROOF YES.

TO BE ADDRESSED.

YES.

AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, LIKE FOR HIM, WHEN I SAW THIS, I SAID THIS IS NOT THE ROOF ISSUES.

MM-HMM .

SO, SO THEN HE WAS SAYING THAT HE WAS TRYING TO SEND THAT TO ME, JUST PERTAINING TO THE ROOF.

'CAUSE THAT'S ALL.

AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

OKAY? MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

MR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT? GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

GOOD EVENING, MS. GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING.

I'M WELL.

UM, I'M PLAYING CATCH UP HERE.

SO LET ME, I, I JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, THIS IS NOT YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S, IT, IT'S MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

I JUST DON'T LIVE THERE.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY? NO, MA'AM.

IT, IT, IT'S MY PRIMARY.

IT JUST WAS UNLIVABLE FOR ME.

OKAY.

AND, UM, YOU HAVE INTENTIONS TO KEEP IT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

MM-HMM .

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO IN GOING THROUGH THE NOTES, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BASICALLY THE CONTRACTOR JUST NEEDED TO RENEW THE PERMIT.

IS THAT, WHAT WAS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? PLUS NOT NECESSARILY RENEW.

'CAUSE HE HAD, HE HAD STARTED WITH ME A WHILE BACK.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT NOW IT'S MORE STILL FINANCIALLY ON MY PART.

OKAY.

AND FINDING THE RIGHT AND, UM, FINANCES TO DO THE JOB.

BUT, UM, LIKE, UH, UH, BOARD MEMBER OLIVER'S SAYING, I WILL GO BACK AND GO TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND FILE A CLAIM TO SEE WHERE I STAND ON THAT IN THE PROCESSING TIME OF STILL TRYING TO DO AN EQUITY LOAN BECAUSE THE HOUSE NEEDS REPAIRED.

OKAY.

AND THE, SO THAT MEANS THE MORTGAGE IS IN GOOD STANDING, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THOSE WERE, THAT'S ALL I HAD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? AND SO AMY, THIS IS NOT, WELL I, I'LL ASK YOU THIS.

I KNOW THAT SAID THAT THE ROOF HAS GOT A HOLE IN IT MM-HMM .

BUT IT, IN OUR NOTES IT ALSO SAID THERE'S A COLLAPSED CEILING AND WARPING OF THE ROOF DECK.

IS THAT INCLUDED WITH YOUR REPAIR REPAIRING THE ROOF? YES, SIR.

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THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING.

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AND IT SAID THE CONSTRUCTION, I MEAN THE STRUCTURE CONTAINS MOLD.

LIKE

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IS THAT, DOES IT HAVE MOLD IN IT? UM, I, I REALLY HADN'T GONE INSIDE BECAUSE OF FEAR, BUT, UH, KIND OF OPENED THE DOOR AND LOOKED.

UM, BUT THE, WHEN THE CONTRACTOR DID, HE SAID THERE'S SOME ISSUES OF IT AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS TELLING ME WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH THAT.

SO ALL THAT'S INCLUDED IN WHAT HE WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.

GOT YOU.

OKAY.

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ALRIGHT.

WELL I DON'T THINK THE BOARD HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER STATEMENTS YOU NEED TO MAKE? NO, SIR.

LIKE , THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

SO ON THIS ONE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAYBE DON'T RECALL OR WEREN'T HERE LAST MEETING, THE BOARD ISSUED AN ORDER TO EXTEND, UM, THE TIME FOR 60 DAYS THAT MADE IT FALL IN JULY, BUT PRIOR TO THE JULY MEETING AND SINCE IT FELL PRIOR TO THE JULY MEETING, THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY Y'ALL ASK THAT SHE BE BROUGHT BACK HERE TODAY.

UM, BECAUSE IF NO AMENDMENTS ARE MADE TO THE ORDER, THEN HER TIME WILL EXPIRE PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND YOU'LL LOSE ANY AUTHORITY TO AMEND THE ORDER.

SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS FROM THE BOARD OR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.

I HAVE A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION.

SO YOU SAID THAT THE ORDER WE GAVE HER TIME WOULD EXPIRE BEFORE THIS MEETING, WHICH IS WHY SHE'S HERE.

BUT WHEN WE MET IN MAY, THE NOTES SAID A DETAILED PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE NEXT 30, 60, 90 DAYS.

YEAH.

SO THE MEMBERS DETERMINED THAT 30 DAYS WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT.

THEY FELT LIKE SHE REALLY NEEDED 60 DAYS.

OKAY.

60 DAYS TOOK HER TO JULY THE FOURTH.

AND SO THERE NEEDED TO BE, Y'ALL EITHER NEEDED TO EXTEND THE TIME BEYOND THE 60 DAYS TO THAT JULY 7TH MEETING.

GOTCHA.

UM, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND IT THEN, OR YOU NEEDED TO HAVE HER COME BACK NOW AND Y'ALL DETERMINED BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION YOU WANTED TO HAVE HER COME BACK THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.

SO YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO.

SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEAVE THE ORDER AS IS, IN WHICH CASE THAT WILL GIVE HER UNTIL JULY 4TH TO COMPLETE THE REPAIRS.

YOU COULD EXTEND THE ORDER TO, UM, MIDNIGHT ON JULY 7TH, WHICH WOULD EXTEND YOUR JURISDICTION OVER THE CASE UNTIL THEN.

AND YOU COULD BRING HER BACK AT THAT MEETING.

OR YOU CAN EXTEND IT, UM, TO ANOTHER DATE.

HOWEVER, IF YOU EXTEND IT TO ANOTHER DATE, IT, IT DOES GET TRICKY BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED TO START MAKING FINDINGS THAT SHE'S PROVIDED YOU WITH A DETAILED PLAN TO GO.

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REALLY MM-HMM .

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BEYOND THAT.

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MM-HMM .

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

THANK YOU.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING MR. CHAIRMAN? YOU OVER THERE THINKING SOMETHING? I'M, I'M TRYING TO WAIT AND SEE IF I GET A, A MOTION.

OH, .

IF NOT, I MAY ASK THE STAFF A QUESTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ASK THE STAFF THE QUESTION AND THEN, UH, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

STAFF, UH, WHAT SHE HAS PRESENTED TONIGHT, UH, DOES THAT SATISFY, UH, YOUR CONCERNS AS STAFF OF A DETAILED PLAN? IT DOES NOT, NO, BUT I, I THINK WE'D BE WILLING TO GIVE HER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING BASED ON HER TESTIMONY, WE'D BE WILLING TO GIVE HER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TO BRING SOMETHING.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

WHICH THAT WAS ALREADY SCHEDULED ANYWAY, RIGHT? NO, IT ONLY GAVE HER TILL JULY 4TH AND OUR MEETING'S ON THE SEVENTH.

OKAY.

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WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD.

THAT WE, UM, MOVE THE TIME TO PROVIDE THAT DETAILED PLAN TO MIDNIGHT ON JULY 7TH AND HAVE HER COME IN AT THAT MEETING WHEN 11:59 PM ON JULY 7TH WORK? OR DO YOU, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT HER TO, WILL YOU EXTEND HER TIME TO 11:59 PM ON MIDNIGHT, WHICH WILL RETAIN YOUR JURISDICTION THROUGH THAT TIME AND THEN HAVE HER PRESENT THE DETAILED PLAN AT THE MEETING? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA LET YOU HAVE THE 60 SECONDS .

WE'RE NOT STAY HERE TILL MIDNIGHT THOUGH.

WELL, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

SO MIDNIGHT IS ACTUALLY BEFORE THE MEETING BE MIDNIGHT.

THE PREVIOUS, YEAH, THE PREVIOUS DAY.

OKAY.

YEAH, ON THE SIXTH.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE MEETING ON THE SEVENTH, SO, YEAH.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED THAT MOTIONS CARRIED BY A VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO.

NEXT ITEM

[3. Hearing concerning alleged Dangerous Structure(s) located at 132 and 134 NE 9th Street (Part 1 of 2)]

1 32, 1 34 NORTHEAST NINTH IS, IT'S, IT'S A DUPLEX.

IT'S ONE, ONE STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S A DUPLEX.

UH, IT'S RIGHT OVER HERE.

JUST EAST OF BELT LINE.

WHO? I DIDN'T HAVE A CARD.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CARD FOR HIM.

DID WAS HE WANTING TO SPEAK? HE WAS, HE WAS ONE OF THE FELLAS OF YES, SHE HAD SOME REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE MORTGAGE COMPANY LAST TIME.

HE JUST CAME.

JUST, DID YOU NEED TO SPEAK? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I I DIDN'T HAVE A CARD FOR YOU, SO I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

STEP.

OKAY.

1 32, 1 34 NORTHEAST NINTH.

UH, THAT'S, THAT IT'S REALLY CROSSES THE ACRO.

NORTHEAST NINTH IS NOW, I CALL IT THE ACCESS ROAD FOR THE BELT LINE FLYOVER OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND SO THAT'S, UH, THAT I JUST, THAT'S HOW I THINK OF IT AND KNOW IT.

SO ANYWAY, IT'S 1 32 AND 1 34 NORTHEAST NINTH.

THAT'S IT FROM THE, FROM THE STREET.

UH, 1 32 THERE IS THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

AND, AND THERE'S, HERE'S BETTER PICTURES OF IT.

UH, IT'S, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE SAME CONDITION, BOTH SIDES.

UH, BAD .

SO, UH, THE CODE OFFICER GOT THIS, THERE WAS A VAN PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY, A A INOPERABLE VAN, AND SHE WAS ADDRESSING THE VAN AND HAPPENED TO NOTICE, AND THE GATE TO THE BACK WAS OPEN.

IT WAS A DISASTER.

BROKEN WINDOWS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SHE CONTACTED THE, THE OCCUPANT.

THE OCCUPANT IS THE OWNER LIVES IN, IN COLORADO.

UH, 1 32, I BELIEVE IS, I'VE GOT MY NUMBERS RIGHT, UH, IS OCCUPIED BY HER MOTHER AND HER BROTHER, AND THE OCCUPANT OF THE 1 34.

WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED HIM, BUT HE, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT DOES RESIDE THERE.

WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN HIM.

UH, SO THESE ARE THE ENTRANCE TO ENTRANCES TO BOTH SIDES.

THERE'S SORT OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE ROOF IN THE FRONT.

UH, AND THIS IS THE, THAT'S THE WATER SYSTEM.

THEY HAVE NO WA NO CITY WATER.

IT'S GARDEN HOSES.

AND I TALKED TO THE CODE OFFICER AND I GO, WHEN YOU EVEN LOOKED, DID YOU FIND OUT THEY HAVE WATER, BUT IT'S NOT FROM THE METERS.

BUT THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THE HOSES GO.

'CAUSE THE YARD IS IN SUCH A BAD SHAPE IN THE BACK.

SO THAT'S THAT DOOR THERE, THAT'S THE OUTSIDE.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHT COMING IN, THAT'S THE OUTSIDE MM-HMM .

IT'S, THERE'S NO CEILINGS AND IT'S, THE FLOORS ARE WARPED.

THERE'S ANOTHER DOOR EXAMPLE.

THE WARP.

WELL, THE FLOOR IS, THERE'S NO FLOORING ON THE, ON THE PLANKS.

AND THAT DOOR APPEARS TO BE PARTICLEBOARD IN THE LIVING ROOM.

ONE OF THE LIVING ROOMS. AND THAT'S A FRONT BEDROOM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SO MUCH THE TIDINESS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CEILING.

UH, THERE IS IS LOOKS A LITTLE, UH, UH, NOT MORE THAN WARPED SAGGING.

THIS IS THE BACK BEDROOM NOTICE THAT THEY'RE MISSING, IT'S MISSING A ROOF.

SO, AND, AND SO THE PLACE IS IN REALLY, REALLY BAD SHAPE.

AND, UH, UH, THIS IS FURTHER IN.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING OUT IN

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MM-HMM .

THERE'S ELECTRICAL WIRING EXPOSED.

THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THE BEDROOMS WITH THE, THE WALLS ARE COMING APART.

AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT GOT THE CODE OFFICER'S ATTENTION WHEN SHE SOFTENED THAT OPEN GATE, WHICH, LEMME SEE IF I GOT, YEAH.

SEE THAT THEY'RE STANDING IN THE BACKYARD ON THE WARRANT, LOOKING OUT THAT THERE, THE, THE COVER OVER THAT FENCE LOOKING TOWARDS THE STREET.

SO WHEN SHE WAS DEALING WITH THE VAN, THAT GATE WAS OPEN AND SHE, SHE COULD SEE BACK IN THIS STUFF AND NOTICE AT THAT TIME, BROKEN WINDOWS AND THINGS AT THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S WHEN SHE ASKED.

THEY FIXED SOME WINDOWS, BUT SHE KNEW THAT IT WAS, THIS WAS JUST GONNA BE BAD.

SO WE GOT AN INTERIOR INSPECTION WARRANT TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SO OUR RECOMMENDED FINDINGS IN THIS IS THAT ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAW, NOTICE OF THIS HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE, GIVEN TO THE OWNER AND OTHER PARTIES WITH AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY AT 1 32 NORTHEAST NINTH AND 1 34 NORTHEAST NINTH GRAND PRIX.

THE PROPERTY, THE, THE STRUCTURE OF SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE IS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

CODE OF ORDINANCE IS 29 18, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, AND 12.

AND IT'S A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

CODE OF ORDINANCE IS SECTION 29, 28, 1 THROUGH 17.

THERE'S ONLY 18 OF THESE.

AND 18 APPLIES TO A BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED.

SO EVERYTHING THAT THE ORDINANCE POINT TO THAT WOULD, UH, SUBSTANTIATE THIS STRUCTURE IS DANGEROUS AND UNSAFE IS ALL, BUT ALL BUT THE ONE THAT'S NOT ALREADY DEMOLISHED.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE OUR RECOMMENDED ORDERS HERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CALL AN AUDIBLE ON THIS.

THEY DID HAVE APPLIED FOR A REHAB PERMIT.

UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN SENT BACK FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT MUCH SIMPLER AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK, UH, THE NEXT IN JULY WITH A FINALIZED, FINALIZED, UH, IF A PERMIT AND A TIMELINE, MUCH LIKE THE 30, 69 DAYS, AND TO KEEP IT SECURE IN THE, IN THE PROCESS.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK FOR A DEMOLITION ORDER AT THIS TIME JUST TO FINALIZE PERMIT.

'CAUSE THEY DID APPLY.

IS PEOPLE'S LIVING IN THERE RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR.

Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL PLAN ON ALLOWING THAT TO WE HAVE TO PUT 'EM SOMEWHERE, LET PEOPLE LIVE IN A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE? I'LL ASK.

UH, YOU, I WILL DEFER TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

SO, UM, THE STATE CHANGED THE LAW SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

SO THAT IF, UM, WELL AT THIS TIME, THE CITY IS NOT REQUESTING, UM, AN ORDER TO EVACUATE THE PREMISES.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS MORE IN DEPTH IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF YOU SO DESIRED.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, YES, BECAUSE I'M, I'M CONCERNED WITH NO ROOF AND SOMEBODY LIVING IN A PLACE WITH NO ROOF.

I HAVE QUESTION.

UM, APPEARS TO BE LIKE INDEPENDENCE TO A COMMERCIAL, UM, BUILDING.

IS THERE ANY NO, THIS IS OLD GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO , THEY, UH, THEY, THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WERE PROBABLY BUILT AFTER THAT HOUSE OR AT SOME TIME IN THE SAME TIME.

THIS IS, THIS IS THE OLD SECTION OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

A LOT OF THINGS ARE MUMBLE, JUMBLED UP.

THE STRUCTURE IS NOT, UM, ATTACHED.

NO.

ANY WAY TO THAT BUILDING.

NO.

SO, BOARD, THE QUESTION IS, WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

DO YOU WANNA LISTEN TO THE SPEAKER FIRST BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? OR DO YOU WANT TO GO EX EXECUTIVE SESSION? FIRST I TO THE LISTEN TO THE SPEAKER.

YES.

OKAY.

SO, MR. ESPINOZA, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

UH, MY NAME IS FELIPE ESPINOZA.

I AM, UH, I GREW UP IN, IN THAT HOUSE.

AND, UH, BASICALLY YES, IT'S A DILAPIDATED, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GUYS SEE, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING TO HIDE.

BUT I DO ACTUALLY, UH, UM, SEEK SOME LENIENCY OR AT LEAST SOME MERCY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS TIME.

I DON'T LIVE THERE.

I LIVE IN DALLAS.

I HAVE MY OWN HOME.

I GREW UP IN THAT HOUSE.

MY FATHER PASSED AWAY DURING COVID.

AND, UH, AND, AND, UH, IT'S COME TO THIS THAT, UH, WE DO NEED TO DO, HAVE TO DO SOME, UM,

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UH, I DO OFFER MY SERVICES TO HELP AND, UH, AND CLEAN THAT PROPERTY.

I HAVE A SKID STEER.

I'VE RENTED, UH, I RENTED, UH, DUMP TRAILERS.

I CAN CLEAR ALL THAT, ALL THAT MESS UP AND TRY TO WORK TO, UH, MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS THAT, UH, THAT YOU GUYS SEE THERE.

MM-HMM .

UH, MY BACKGROUND, I, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY DON'T LIVE THERE.

I'M A PARAMEDIC.

THIS IS MY CHILDHOOD HOME.

IT WENT, IT DILAPIDATED.

MY FATHER DIED.

MY MOTHER HAD A HARD TIME TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FIX THE AREA.

UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES 'CAUSE MY BROTHER KIND OF STAYS THERE AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, SOME.

BUT, UH, THE TRUE OWNER RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER, THEY SOLD A HOME TO, UH, MY SISTER.

AND, UH, SHE, UH, DOESN'T RECEIVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, THE STATE OF, UH, THE REST OF THE, OF THE PLACE.

AND, UH, I'M, I'M BASICALLY VOICING HER CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, UH, I'M GOING TO BE THE, THE POINT OF CONTACT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN THAT, UH, THAT RECOMMENDED TO GIVE US SOME LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

AND I CAN GIVE YOU MY WORD BECAUSE, AND IT'S COME DOWN TO THIS POINT WHERE I'M THE PERSON THAT CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE THE, THE MEANS AND THE, UH, THE EFFORT TO DO AND TO DO, AND SOMETHING TO, UH, CORRECT THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU GUYS SEE, YOU KNOW, HERE FORWARD.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

MY, MY MOM, SHE, SHE'S IN, UH, SHE'S IN THE CAR RIGHT NOW.

SHE DIDN'T, SHE, SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO DIRECT ME 'CAUSE SHE'S ELDERLY.

SHE DIRECTED ME TO THE DALLAS COUNTY BUILDING NEXT DOOR.

AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO I'M LIKE WAITING THERE.

AND, AND SO I, I CAME UP HERE AND I ASKED THE, UH, THE GENTLEMAN UP FRONT, HEY, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, WHERE CAN I DIRECT? AND I COME HERE AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES THAT THOSE PROBLEMS, I COULD CORRECT THE OTHER TI.

THINGS WILL TAKE SOME TIME, OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I AM A ONE MAN ARMY.

I'M A EX-MILITARY PARAMEDIC CORPSMAN.

I, I, I CAN DO THAT.

I DO HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT, HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT CAN, UH, CLEAR ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PROBLEMS RENT A DUMP TRAILER.

I CAN, I CAN, I'M AT A DOER.

AND THAT NOW THAT MY SISTER HAS, YOU KNOW, SHE'S HASN'T REALLY GOTTEN LOT OF INFORMATION FROM, UH, MY MOTHER.

'CAUSE SHE LIVES IN DENVER.

MY SISTER ALSO HAS SOME HEALTH PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, SHE CAN, CAN'T COME OVER HERE.

BUT, UH, IF WE EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS IN CONTRACT FORM, WHERE I CAN KNOW COULD GET PAID A DOLLAR BECAUSE I DON'T CARE.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO SAVE, UH, MY PARENTS OR MY MOTHER, MY SURVIVING, UH, MOTHER, YOU KNOW, SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE STREETS.

I CAN DO THAT.

BUT SHE HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, HUMBLE AND TO ALLOW ME TO DO THIS.

AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY SINCE THE NAME IS IN MY, UH, SISTER'S HOUSE AND IT'S COME DOWN TO THIS, THAT I, I, I CAN HELP.

BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THERE'S NOT, NOW IT'S BETWEEN THAT SHE HAS NO CHOICE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SITUATION.

SHE HAS TO ACCEPT THE, UH, THE HELP AND I'M WILLING TO HELP AND, UH, USE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TIME I HAVE, UH, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY OFF EVERY DAY THAT I HAVE OFF THAT I, YOU KNOW, I, I WORK AS A SURGICAL TECHNICIAN AT THE VETERINARY HOSPITAL.

MY WHOLE CAREER.

I'VE, I'VE WORKED IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.

I'M A GIVING PERSON.

I'M WILLING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TAKE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAYS OFF TO, TO TRY TO, UH, MITIGATE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU GUYS SEE HERE.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

LET'S SEE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

IS YOUR MOTHER LIVING IN THIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW? UH, YES.

SHE IS.

UH, RIGHT NOW, FROM MY CON HONESTLY, FROM WHAT, FROM MY SCENE OVER THE YEARS, I COULD TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

I'VE BEEN, I, I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD PROBLEMS TRYING TO, UH, UH, KICK PEOPLE OUT OVER THE YEARS AND 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE MY, UH, FAMILY PROBLEMS WITH MY BROTHER AND MY MOM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOSTLY, UH, QUAIL RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING STUFF RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLEAN.

I, I KNOW I WENT UP THERE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUT THEY'RE PUTTING BOARD, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING WORK THERE.

YEAH.

THIS IS A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.

I I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I WOULD HATE FOR MY MOTHER TO LIVE LIKE THIS.

YES.

SHE WOULD LIVE WITH ME BEFORE SHE LIVES LIKE THIS.

YES.

UH, I'M, I'M GONNA TRY TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SHE, UH, SHE DID LIVE WITH MY, UH, MY SISTER IN DENVER FOR A WHILE, BUT SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE WANT HER INDEPENDENCE, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, TO STAY WITH MY, UH, MY, UH, OLDER BROTHER.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND SHE CAN'T BE AROUND ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION WORK.

YES, YES.

SHE, I COULD, I COULD OFFER HER TO STAY OVER IN MY, IN MY PLACE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I COULD DO.

BUT, UH, RE REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, I JUST BASICALLY WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS HERE.

YEAH.

I HAVE, I HAVE A, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

FIRST OF ALL, UM, MR. MR. I'M SORRY, MR. WAS A GOOD EVENING AND, UH, CONDOLENCES IN

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YES.

UM, YOU, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE, UM, FAMILIAR WITH THE ORDER FROM THE BOARD FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, GIVEN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, UM, WHAT'S A REALISTIC, UM, TIMETABLE OR EXPECTATION FOR YOU TO START, UM, THIS WORK THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT? WHAT I, I DO HAVE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAYS LEFT FOR MY, FOR MY REAL JOB.

UH, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I, LIKE, I DO, I DO HAVE SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

UH, MY, UH, I'VE HAD MY SISTER KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE EXTENT OF THE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS THAT THEY'VE HAD RIGHT NOW AND, UH, UH, ALL THAT STUFF.

CAN I, I'M THINKING THAT I COULD, WE COULD DO THIS, UH, GET A CONTRACTOR TO FIX THE ROOF, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS.

I MEAN, I, I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE I MEAN, I I HAVE A LIFE ON MY OWN, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST.

UNDERSTOOD.

YOU KNOW, IN THREE MONTHS, I THINK WE CAN DO IT THREE MONTHS.

OKAY.

AND, AND I'M BEING HONEST.

AND, AND, AND I DO, I MEAN, I, I WORK HARD.

UH, MY, MY BROTHER'S THERE.

WE'VE, UH, WE'VE QUED OUR DIFFERENCES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF PAST PROBLEMS OF, OF, OF WHAT YOU SEE BASICALLY.

BUT, UH, THAT HE'S, HE'S WILLING TO WORK, UH, THAT THEY, WE COME TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY, HE WILL HELP.

I DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TIME BASICALLY A PART THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY, UH, FULL-TIME JOB AFTER MY FULL-TIME JOB.

I, I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT.

MY CHILDHOOD HOME IS NOW A VACANT LOT, SO YES.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO, TO UNDERTAKE.

YES.

AND THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME, SOME REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, MOVING FORWARD.

MM-HMM.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT, MR. ESPINOZA? YES, MA'AM.

DID YOU SAY YOU SERVED IN THE MILITARY? I WAS A, I WAS A CORPSMAN IN THE, UH, IN THE NAVY.

OKAY.

THE MARINES.

YES, MA'AM.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

UM, QUICK QUESTION.

WHO ALL LIVES IN THE HOME? UH, MY MOM, MY BROTHER, AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.

HONESTLY, UH, I'M THINKING A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, I DON'T REALLY BLAME THE PERSON THERE.

I THINK SHE'S KIND OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE, OF MY, MY MOM, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

BECAUSE SHE, SHE, SHE WAS A TRUTHFUL OWNER ON THAT.

SHE DID SELL IT TO MY SISTER, BUT SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN OVER THE YEARS SHE BOUGHT THE HOME.

IT'S HERS.

AND, AND, UH, I THINK, UH, THAT PERSON IS, IS TRYING TO CAUSE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS. WE MIGHT, WE, WE ARE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.

MY SISTER WANTS TO DO SOME, YOU KNOW, SHE'S TRYING TO SQUAT THE PLACE AND BECAUSE THERE'S TWO PLACES, THERE'S A, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ADDRESSES.

1, 3, 2, AND 1, 3, 4, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S ONLY 1, 3, 2, THERE'S LIKE A TOWN HOME, TWO SEPARATE PARTS MM-HMM .

AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL IS LIVING THERE, SQUATTING FREE, TAKING ADVANTAGE.

AND OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH, WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.

AND, UH, WE'RE STARTING THE, THE PROCESS OF, I GUESS GETTING EVICTING HER OUT.

SO YOUR MOM AND BROTHER IS IN 1, 3, 2, 1 TOWN HOME, BASICALLY.

YES.

AND THE OTHER 1, 3, 4 IS A SQUATTER.

WHAT'S THAT? IT'S THE PERSON IN 1 3 4 IS A SQUATTER? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO LEGALLY HAVE HER EVICTED.

OKAY.

TRYING TO LEGALLY HAVE, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG SHE'S BEEN THERE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? UH, I WOULD, I WOULDN'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY, BUT I KNOW SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY FOR A MINUTE.

THAT'S OKAY.

IS YOUR BROTHER ON BOARD WITH HELPING TO BRING THE PLACE UP? YES, HE IS.

HE, UH, UH, HE, HE KIND OF OVERSTATES THE CAPABILITIES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S HAD A, HE'S HAD A LOT OF ISSUES, YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

DRUG AND DRUG DEPENDENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND, UH MM-HMM .

AND IF ANYTHING, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, UH, HE'S THE REASON WHY I NEVER DID DRUGS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

I KNOW FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND, UH, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE JUST WILLING, WELL, I'M, I'M THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE HAVING, HAVING TO DO ALL THE WORK BASICALLY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HE'LL, HE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW MY ORDERS.

MM-HMM .

DO YOU KNOW IF THE PROPERTY IS PAID OFF? IS, IS THERE A MORTGAGE ON IT? THE PROPERTY'S PAID OFF, AND, UH, I MEAN, YOU GUYS CAN CHECK THE, UH, CENTRAL PRE DISTRICT, IT HAS POTENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE LAND.

OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSE IS NOT WORTH ANYTHING, BUT IT'S $224,000 THAT IT'S WORTH.

AND, AND I, I, TO TELL THE TRUTH, A LOT OF THE STUFF I WAS JUST COMING TO KNOW TO FRUITION, BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF IS NOT REALLY BEING TOLD BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE CODE THERE.

I'M NOT TOLD A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT SINCE MY, UH, SISTER IS THE OWNER, SHE KNOWS THAT I DO THINGS, UH, AND I, AND I, I'M, UH, MOVE HER AND A SHAKER.

IF I TELL IF I DO SOMETHING, I WILL DO IT.

UH, BUT, UH, SHE'S GIVEN ME THE FULL AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO.

WHETHER, IF IT'S, I HAVE, WELL, IF I HAVE TO RAISE IT, I CAN GET, I CAN MYSELF, I CAN GET AN EXCAVATOR AND JUST DEMOLISH THE WHOLE THING IF I GET, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PERMITS FOR

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OR IF I CAN FEEL LIKE I NEED, IF IT'S JUST A WASTE OF TIME AND, AND I CAN HAVE MY SISTER, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, DECIDE THAT MM-HMM .

WE CAN PUT A BULL, I CAN PUT A BULLDOZER TOO.

AND, AND, AND TRUST ME, I'VE, THERE'S TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE THOUGHT THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THING FOR THEM.

YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE LIVES UNDER, UH, UH, INCOME AND, UH, AND SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HERSELF, NOT HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY ELSE.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SECURED.

IT NEEDS A ROOF.

AND SO I'M ALWAYS, UH, THINKING IF IT HAS INSURANCE THAT'S A, UM, CLAIM AGAINST THE INSURANCE TO HELP GET THE ROOF DONE.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO SECURE, UM, THE STRUCTURE BEFORE YOU BEGIN MOVING THINGS OUT OF THE YARD.

IF MOM AND BROTHER IS GOING TO STAY THERE.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE SIBLINGS AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU DID SAY THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO TAKE MOM WITH YOU, BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT BROTHER.

SO I GET IT.

I DO.

IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

I ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT NOVEL.

SO, UM, I WAS JUST, MY CONCERN IS GETTING THE STRUCTURE SECURED IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO STILL BE IN THERE.

YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.

UH, MS. ESPOSA OR YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT? SHE'S SAYING THAT I'M REPRESENTING HER.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

DO YOU WANT IT, OR DO YOU WANT, GIVE IT TO THE STAFF WHO, WHO'S, WHO'S STAYING AT 1 34? WHAT'S THE DATE OF THE PERSON? MARCH.

MARCH.

OKAY.

MARCH.

THAT'S DOBBS.

MARSHA ADAMS. MARSHA ADAMS. M-A-R-S-H-A.

UH, I'M, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.

HOBBS ADAMS. ADAMS ADAMS. MARSHA ADAMS. MARSHA ADAMS. UH, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, UH, SHE, UH, BECAUSE THE, MY BROTHER TRIED TO EVICT HER.

SHE, SHE, SHE'S PLAYING THE GAME OF TRYING TO CALL THE, UH, PROTECTIVE SERVICES FROM HAVING US EVICT HER.

YOU KNOW, SHE'S, IT'S A GAME, PEOPLE PLAY.

AND, UH, SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH A LOT OF LEGAL, UH, LEGAL ISSUES THROUGH THAT.

BUT, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M, UH, I'M RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY JUST LEARNING AND MY, MY SISTER, THE ACTUAL TRUE OWNER OF THE PROPERTIES IS LEARNING TOO.

SO, SO THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO BE WORKED TO THROUGH MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT WE HAVE THE, THE AUTHORITY OBVIOUSLY TO WORK AT THE PROPERTY.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME.

AT THIS TIME, UH,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 2 REGARDING, UH, DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY AND CONSULTING WITH, WITH ATTORNEY UNDER 5 5 1 0 7 1 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.

YEP.

THE TIME IS 7:03 PM WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

UH, SO

[3. Hearing concerning alleged Dangerous Structure(s) located at 132 and 134 NE 9th Street (Part 2 of 2)]

YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE LEFT? NO, SIR.

I DO WANT TO ASK MR. ESPINOZA A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM.

REALISTICALLY, JUST TO SECURE THE PROPERTY, MEANING THE OPEN ROOF, THE ROOM BACK THERE, UH, THE DOOR THAT WAS A JAR, JUST TO GET THE INSIDE STRUCTURE WHERE SHE'S NOT EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENT.