[00:00:01]
READY? ALRIGHT,[BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM]
WE'LL GO AHEAD, GET STARTED.STARTED WITH BRIEFING IF YOU GUYS ARE READY.
WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING.
THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF MAY 19TH, 2025.
I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THE STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 5:39 PM THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND PREVIEWS.
THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.
AND I'LL CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE, JUST LIKE THIS.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE DO HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS HERE.
SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND CAN BEGIN OUR BRIEFING.
WE ANTICIPATE PICKING UP TWO MORE MEMBERS BY THE ACTUAL SIX O'CLOCK, BUT WE CAN LEGALLY START OUR BRIEFING NOW.
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE, VIVIAN BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU AND WITH THAT STAFF IF YOU'LL START US ON THE CASES.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MR. HADIN CAME IN HERE NICE AND LOUD HERE.
SO WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS PRESENT.
OKAY, SO ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES FOR REAR YARD CARPORT LOCATED AT 1834 CROOKS COURT.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY THREE AND IS HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN YELLOW.
OUR FIRST VARIANCE IS TO THE MAXIMUM AREA OF THE REAR CARPORT.
WE WANNA SEE AN INCREASE, UM, FROM THE 500 MAXIMUM ALLOWED TO THE REQUESTED 700 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO THE MAXIMUM AREA OF ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE MAXIMUM IN THIS CASE IS 968.5 SQUARE FEET AND WE ARE HAVING A REQUEST FOR 1,298 SQUARE FEET.
SO THE UH, PROPOSED CARPORT IS IN THE REAR.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS 1,937 SQUARE FEET AND THE EXISTING CARPORT IS 598 SQUARE FEET.
THAT GIVES US THE TOTAL AND HALF OF THAT IS 9 68 AND A HALF.
HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE REAR YARD WHERE THE PROPOSED CARPORT'S GOING TO GO, WHICH WILL BE FOR THE APPLICANT'S RV AND UM, SOME ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW HIS DIMENSIONS.
THERE IS AN ACTIVE BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE PAVING REQUIRED AND THAT WILL BE ROLLED INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.
COULD YOU TURN BACK TO THE OVERHEAD OF THE OVERALL LOT? ONE MORE.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OB, THE OBSERVATION AND NOTHING WE'RE GONNA SOLVE TO TODAY.
THIS BOARD WILL HEAR THIS CASE ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT I WONDER IF THE STANDARD OF 500 FEET IS EVEN REALISTIC IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
NOW WHEN I LOOK AT THE EXISTING CARPORT IS 598 SQUARE FEET AND DOESN'T LOOK ALL THAT BIG IN RELATION TO THE HOUSE.
IF 500 EVEN MAKES SENSE OR IF IT'S JUST AN ANTIQUATED NUMBER.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL AND UDC NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
BUT JUST AN OBSERVATION AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY ZBA EXISTS IN MY MIND IS WHEN IT JUST DOESN'T FIT AND YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES AND DOING EXACTLY WHAT STAFF'S SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT AM I LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS CORRECTLY? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS CORRECTLY.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I MY RIGHT MR. EPO.
THE FRONT AND WHERE, SO THE FRONT IS DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
THAT'S THE STREET FRONTAGE AND THE REAR IS AT THE VERY TOP AND IT HAS ALLEY FRONTAGE.
THAT'S TOUGH TURN WELL UP THERE FROM THE ALLEY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THAT WHOLE HOUSE IS SET A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE STREET SIDE AND YOU'VE GOT A BIG BACKYARD, WHICH IS THE WAY HE WANTS TO PUT THIS RV.
BUT HE'S GONNA POUR CONCRETE AND ALL THAT'S GONNA BE SIT HERE SLIDING GATE.
HE CAN MAKE A BIG SLIDING GATE SO HE CAN MAKE THAT COMMENT.
YEAH, AND LET ME GO BACK HERE SO THAT YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF THE ALLEY.
SO THERE ARE OTHER DRIVE APPROACHES ALONG THAT ALLEY GOING IN THERE.
HOW ABOUT OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? TO MY RIGHT, HOW ABOUT TO MY LEFT? ANYONE? WELL LET'S TAKE US TO CASE THE THIRD CASE ON THE AGENDA.
[00:05:01]
GREAT.AND THEY ARE GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.
AND MR. CHAIR, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR SIDE YARD CARPORT AT A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 6 5 9 4 TRAIL DRIVE ON SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL, GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
IT IS OWNED SINGLE FAMILY TWO AND AGAIN THE REQUEST IS FOR THAT SIDE YARD CARPORT IN ADDITION TO A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR A CARPORT WHICH IS THREE FEET REDUCED DOWN TO ZERO FEET.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, AERIAL AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND I'M JUST GONNA SKIP AHEAD ONE REALLY QUICK SO YOU CAN SEE A BETTER IMAGE OF IT.
IT IS AN EXISTING CARPORT AND IT IS USED FOR THE STORAGE OF A BOAT.
SO IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGE THERE.
UM, AGAIN, IT IS EXISTING AND AGAIN, IF THEY ARE APPROVED FOR THIS THEY WOULD HAVE TO UH, GET THAT BUILDING PERMITS.
AND PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT OR PART OF THAT PERMIT PROCESS IS TO GET THAT PAVED AGAIN.
IT'S SIMPLY GONNA BE USED FOR THE STORAGE OF THAT BOAT.
UM, STAFF HAS VERIFIED THAT THE EXISTING CARPORT IS NOT ENCROACHING OR IMPEDING ON THAT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LINE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM THIS ANGLE, BUT IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO SEE THAT THERE IS A UH, SMALL, UM, AND I'M FORGETTING THE WORD HERE, BUT THE WATER THAT MAY COME FROM THE RAIN IS NOT GONNA AFFECT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE GULLY OR DITCH RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE YOU SEE THE GRASS IS DISCOLORED RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WA WATER POOLS, I ASKED THE OTHER HOUSE IS HIGHER IT YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL, UH, LOCATION OF IT AND SITE PLAN.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS REQUEST, 30, 35 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.
ONE WAS RETURN IN FAVOR AND ONE WAS RETURN OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO HOA YES MR. BAKER, I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
OKAY, NOW YOU SAID THAT'S PROPOSED BUT THAT DOES NOT SHOW ANY CONCRETE GOING TO IT.
YES, THAT WILL COME AT A LATER STAGE.
SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? MISS RED COLORATION.
YES, THAT'S THE CARPORT, EXACTLY.
AND THE, THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AS I UNDERSTAND IT EXISTS, BUT PART OF THE THING THAT WE CAN GET CONCRETE THE NEXT SLIDE THROUGH SHOWS THE, THE YARD, YOU CAN TELL HE'S TAKING THAT BOAT TRAILER THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DIRT A COUPLE TIMES AND ABSOLUTELY RIGHT OVER THE CURB WITH THE TRACK CONCRETE WILL PROBABLY BE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR WHAT HE IS DOING WITH THE BOAT ON THE SIDE.
I USED TO HAVE A BOAT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE LIKE THAT AND OF COURSE THERE'S THE CLAIM THAT HE'S GONNA STORE OVER THE BOAT THERE, BUT MAYBE ONE DAY HE WANTS TO PARK THE CAR.
THAT'S WHY WE STILL NEED IT TO BE PAVED AND RIGHT.
I WANNA MAKE UP TO THOSE STANDARDS THAT'S, SO WOULD THAT'S RIGHT THAT BE PART OF OUR MOTION OR WOULD WE SIMPLY TONIGHT BE APPROVING THREE, THREE FEET SETBACK TO A ZERO? IT WOULD BE FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE CARDBOARD AND THEN THREE FEET TO ZERO.
UM, LIKE ERIN MENTIONED IN HER UH, PRESENTATION THERE, WE DO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT AS A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THE TYPICAL PROCESS IS YOU GUYS WOULD APPROVE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE IF YOU APPROVE IT AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE BUILDING PERMIT WHERE WE WOULD REVIEW EVERYTHING AGAIN.
AND THIS TIME BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS REVIEWING AS WELL.
AND THEY HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT THAT UH, ANY AREA UNDER A PROPOSED OR EXISTING CARPORT MUST BE PAVED.
ONE STAFF, THIS STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
CAN YOU BRING BACK THE, YOU CAN SEE ALREADY CONFIRMED ALL THE DRAIN FROM THE GREEN YOU CAN SEE ALREADY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE FROM YOUR, DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA DISTORT THE DRAINAGE IN THE SYSTEM? NO, THERE'S A GUTTER SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE AND I'M SORRY I COULDN'T REMEMBER THAT WORD EARLIER, BUT UH, THAT WATER IN THE STREET, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT DOES GO TO THE STREET VERSUS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, PROPERTY OWNER OR PROPERTY, WHICH IS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, ANY FLOW THAT MIGHT OCCUR FROM THAT DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS NOT GONNA IMPEDE THE PROPERTY, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER OR THEIR PROPERTY AT ALL.
YEAH, SO FROM YOUR OPINION, YOU ARE OKAY WITH IT? YES.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
HAS IT BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE? IT'S HARD TO TELL.
[00:10:01]
UM, I WAS CURIOUS.IT IT DID COME TO US, YOU KNOW, AS A CODE CASE.
YOU HAD ONE, ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT.
UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE FIREWORKS OF THE LIVE SHOW, UM, YEAH, THE OPPOSITION.
TELL ME THAT ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT OF THE PICTURE.
SO THE OPPOSITION CAME AND I'LL SCROLL OVER HERE, FIGURE OUT THAT FROM THE OVER HERE ABOUT THREE HOUSES SOUTH.
AND THE SUPPORT CAME FROM ABOUT THREE HOUSES NORTH.
SO NOT ONE OF THE THAT'S RIGHT.
SAME STREET, SAME SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT OPPOSING VIEWS ON THIS, WE'VE HAD THOSE CASES WHERE EVERYBODY'S IN THE ROOM.
WHETHER IT'S THIS GUY AND THIS MY NEIGHBOR AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE OR CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE FOURTH ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 25 0 4 0 0 2 7 IS A VARIANCE FOR A REAR YARD CARPORT.
THIS WOULD BE TO THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED TWO FAMILY DISTRICT AGAIN HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING UM, A CARPORT AND ALSO A GARAGE BOTH TOTALING 700 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE OVER THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THEY DO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT IN PLACE.
HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION
AND, AND THE CITY'S NOT OPPOSED.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? YEAH, CAN YOU SHOW THE PICTURE AGAIN? OF COURSE.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IS THERE GOING TO BE A GAP BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THE NEW CARPORT? YES SIR.
THERE IS, WAS THE DIMENSION OF THE GAP OF THE CARPORT, YOU KNOW, NO, BETWEEN THE TWO.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE DIMENSION BETWEEN THE TWO STRUCTURES? THE CARPORT AND THE EXISTING HOUSE? LET'S SEE IF I CAN SEE THAT.
I CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT DIMENSION, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY OVER 10 FEET.
I'M CONCERNED WITH THE, UH, DRAINAGE FROM THE ROOFING OR BOAT.
WHERE DOES IT GO? OKAY, SO LET ME JUST ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING GARAGE IN CARPORT.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT ON THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE RED AREA.
SO THEY ARE BASICALLY REPLACING SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY THERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA DEMOLISH.
SO DRAINAGE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE AT THIS PROPERTY AND IT'LL, SO, UM, GO AHEAD.
IS IT OKAY IF I INTERJECT PLEASE? YES SIR.
SO MR. ALPA, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES STAFF'S CONCERN FOR ZERO OUTLINE IS WE DON'T WANT THAT TO SLOPE ONTO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T ALLOW THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES THESE WILL SLOPE ONTO THEIR OWN PROPERTIES WHERE IT'LL BE SOAKED UP BY THE GRASS AND THEY HAVE A ALLOWING FACTOR TO ALLOW SOME LOCAL DRAINAGES ONTO THEIR OWN FIELD.
AND THE, FOR FORTUNATELY ALL THESE BUILDING PERMIT, WE ALSO INCLUDE ENGINEERING REVIEWER ON THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE ISSUES, WE'LL DEFINITELY ADDRESS THAT DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? AND JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, THIS IS CASE NUMBER TODAY.
WHICH THAT'LL CONCLUDE OUR BRIEFING ON THIS ONE.
AND WE'LL GO TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH WILL BE CASE 28.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA IS 28 OH OH, THIS IS YOU SOUTH? YES.
SO JUST FOR A MOMENT, I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS SLIDE UP.
UHHUH
SO THE, THAT ITEM ACTUALLY HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE, UH, HELD OFF FOR NOW BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED ITEM TO BE TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER 28.
THEY REQUESTED TO BE, BE TABLED.
THAT'S, WE DO NOT NEED TO CONSIDER OR MAKE A, ANY MOTIONS OTHER THAN TABLE A MOTION AT THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO THE TABLE.
[00:15:01]
AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.WHICH TAKES US TO ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA NUMBER 29.
IS THE LAST TWO DIGITS IN THE THAT'S CORRECT.
RON, DID YOU NEED TO SAY SOMETHING? WE, SO THAT'S COOL RON, AS LONG AS WE GET A MOTION TO TABLE IT.
WHEN YOU DO THE MOTION, YOU'LL TABLE IT TO THE SPECIFIC MEETING TO A DATE? YES.
DO WE KNOW THE DATE ALREADY? NEXT ONE.
TYPICALLY WHEN CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DO STUFF, IT'S LEGALLY YOU HAVE TO JUST CAN'T INDEFINITELY TABLE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO PICK A SPECIFIC DATE.
DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK BEING DONE, THEY CAN DO IT IN KNOW TWO WEEKS FROM NOW MEETING OR A MONTH FROM NOW MEETING.
SINCE WE ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, IT'S PROTOCOL TYPICALLY GET ONE MONTH.
TYPICALLY WE JUST DO IT FOR NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN IF OTHERWISE, WE WOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS.
OKAY, NOW BACK TO THE FABULOUS AND MUCH ANTICIPATED ITEM SIX.
YES, CBA 25 0 4 0 0 2 9 IS A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THIS PROPERTY IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 4 42 A.
THE ADDRESS IS 24 18 RISE RIDGE.
THIS IS A, A NEW SUBDIVISION, SO THE PROPERTY IS VACANT.
THEY WANNA BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND REDUCE THE STREET SIDE SETBACK FROM THE REQUIRED 15 TO 14.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE PINK HIGHLIGHTED AREA THAT'S THE STREET SIDE, THEY ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING AN ENCROACHMENT OF ONE HALF INCH
ONE NOTICE WAS SENT, NO NOTICES RETURNED IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED.
THERE'S NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HALF AN INCH WE ON
THAT THAT'S A HALF INCH TOO FAR, SIR.
MR H, IT IT'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING FIVE 11 AND A HALF AND SIX FOOT.
ANYONE IN MY HAVE QUESTIONS IS TO HAVE ON THIS ONE.
OTHERWISE I THINK WE ALL PRETTY MUCH GOT THIS ONE.
IT'S AN EGREGIOUS OVERREACH OBVIOUSLY.
GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THE LAST ITEM IS THE SAME REQUEST JUST ON A DIFFERENT LOT.
SO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ALSO A HALF AN INCH.
UH, ZBA 25 0 4 0 0 3 OH VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THEY WANNA CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AND THERE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW JUST NORTH OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WHERE WE, THESE ARE THE TWO LOTS NEXT TO EACH OTHER THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ON AND BACK TO BACK NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO THE REQUEST IS TO DECREASE THE SIDE YARD FROM 15 TO 14 FEET.
NORTH IS ACTUALLY DOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
THIS IS HOW THEY GAVE US THE SIDE PLAN.
SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE PRESENTING IT, BUT IT REALLY IS NORTH WOULD BE FLIPPED UPSIDE DOWN SIDE YARD, ENCROACHMENT OF A HALF INCH.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OPPOSE TO THIS REQUEST.
I JUST WONDER AS THE DEVELOPERS WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT, HOW BIG OF A CON REALLY DO
ONE IN HALF AN INCH SHORT ANYWAY.
AND I'M JUST ONE BOAT AND WE'LL SEE HOW THE EVENING GOES DURING THE ACTUAL MEETING.
BUT IRONY OF IRONY IS IF WE APPROVE ONE AND NOT THE OTHERS AND SOMEBODY BETTER GO GET SECURITY WALKING OUT THE BUILDING FEELING SAFE,
BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER OF THE HALF INCHES, WHICH COLLECTIVELY WOULD BE AN INCH? UM, NO.
AT THIS POINT WE'LL BE ADJOURNED AND WE GOT TWO MINUTES FOR A COMFORT BREAK AND THEN WE'LL LAUNCH AT SIX.
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE.
I MIGHT THROW A NERF BALL AT ERIC AND WE'LL GO FOR IT.
[Call to Order]
TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRIX ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING MAY 19TH, 2025.I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:04 PM ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT ON ANY MATTER IN WHICH THE BOARD DOES HAVE JURISDICTION.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD
[00:20:01]
ON ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF QUORUM AFTER CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE JUST LIKE THIS.
HERE WE'LL LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE DO HAVE NINE MEMBERS PRESENT, WHICH IS A FULL BOARD AND WE ARE READY TO PROCEED.
I'LL NOW ASK MR. BAKER TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.
DO YOU WANT FOLLOW? WE COME TONIGHT.
JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND THE PEOPLE IN IT.
LORD, FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREMEN, OUR STAFF LORD.
AND JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT THEY MEAN TO US.
KEEP US SAFE THROUGHOUT THE MEETING, LORD.
IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
NEVER SEEN ANYBODY GO 30 MINUTES, BUT YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT AS AN APPLICANT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN TO EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD JUST LIKE THESE, WE'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN, WHICH IS ME.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD RIGHT AT THE TOP.
FIRST THING YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHO YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, STAFF WILL BE AVAIL AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ACTION ITEM, THE OF THE NIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF APRIL 21ST, 2025.IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? IS THERE A MEMBER, MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OF THE APRIL 21ST, 2025.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER.
I HEARD A SECOND FIRST FROM MR. EVO.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES BY ACCOUNT OF NINE TO ZERO.
[2. ZBA-25-03-0016 (Council District 3) Variances to the maximum area of a rear carport and to the maximum square footage of all accessory structures permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1834 Crooks Ct., legally described as Lot 9, Block 1, Phillips Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three District]
BRINGS US TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE CASES LISTED ON THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT.WE HAVE FIVE CASES ON THE AGENDA.
FOUR TO NINE AND WE'LL START WITH ZBA 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 6.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, ZBA 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 6.
A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES FOR REAR YARD CARPORT LOCATED AT 1834 CROOKS COURTS.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY THREE DISTRICT.
IT IS SHOWN HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW REAR CARPORT TO HOUSE OUR APPLICANT'S RV.
THE FIRST VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO THE AREA OF THE CARPORT.
THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 500 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT IS 700 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS A 40% INCREASE ABOVE THE ALLOWABLE AREA.
OUR SECOND VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE 968.5 SQUARE FEET AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 1,298 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING PERMIT AND UNDERSTANDS THAT PAVING WILL BE REQUIRED UNDERNEATH THE CARPORT, THE DRIVEWAY INTO ACCESS.
HERE ARE PICTURES OF THE REAR YARD WHERE THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL GO, AS WELL AS SOME ELEVATIONS.
AND THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY RIGHT ON THIS CASE.
QUESTIONS TO STAFF TO MY LEFT.
IF NOT, I HAVE ONE APPLICANT CARD FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT.
ARE YOU HERE, SIR? HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE AND TELL US ANYTHING? AND IF YOU'LL START WITH JUST YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AND WHY.
AND THAT YOU DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCRETE PART OF IT, WHICH IF YOU GOT A BOAT, YOU UN OR AN RV, YOU KNOW, UM, PAUL LEVY AT 1834 CROOKS COURT.
UH, SO IN THE, THE PICTURE THERE IS AN EXISTING AWNING.
IT'S IN THE BACK THAT'S GONNA BE TORE DOWN, UH, TO GO FOR THE NEW CAR, CORPORATE TO GO IN PLACE.
AND UH, I'VE TURNED, SUBMITTED DRAWINGS ALREADY FOR THE CONCRETE AND APPROACH TO THE, THE ALLEY.
CAN YOU MAKE THE TURN OFF THE ALLEY IF, IF THE GATE BIG ENOUGH? YES.
I'M MAKING A 20 FOOT SLIDING GATE.
THOSE OF US HAVE DRIVEN BIG RE BIG VEHICLES LIKE THAT BEFORE.
[00:25:01]
KNOW HOW FUN IT IS TO TRY TO RUN 'EM DOWN AN ALLEY.YEAH, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT ONCE TO JACK KNIFE 'EM INTO A PARKING SPOT.
SO, UH, ANYTHING SPECIAL OR WAS THAT STAFF'S PRESENTATION WAS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? THE APPLICANT WHILE WE HAVE 'EM DOWN HERE TO MY LEFT? NONE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZBA 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 6 IN THE ROOM? IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO BA 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 6? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 6.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER IN A VERY, VERY QUIET AND HUMBLE SECOND FROM MR. EPO, THE QUIETEST EVER.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ASK THOSE IN FAVOR.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
[3. ZBA-25-04-0026 (Council District 2) Special Exception for a side yard carport and a variance to the minimum side yard setback for a side yard carport permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 3659 Forest Trail Dr., legally described as Lot 35, Block A, Arbor Creek Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Two District]
NEXT CASE.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA, ZBA A TWO FIVE DASH OH FOUR DASH 0 0 2 6.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST AND A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A SIDE YARD CARPORT FOR AN EXISTING CARPORT FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 6 5 9 FOREST TRAIL DRIVE.
ON SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
AND AGAIN THE REQUEST IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A SIDE YARD CARPORT IN ADDITION TO A VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR THAT CARPORT FROM THREE FEET THAT IS REQUIRED TO ZERO FEET.
AND I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD REALLY QUICK.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXISTING CARPORT.
IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED TO STORE A BOAT.
THERE IS NO CONCRETE UNDERNEATH AND THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH ABUTTING THAT PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THAT VARIANCE REQUEST.
STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY'RE NOT ENCROACHING ONTO THAT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THERE IS A GUTTER SYSTEM IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES WHERE THE WATER'S GOING ONTO THAT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER OR THEIR PROPERTY ONSCREEN.
YOU'LL SEE THAT GENERAL SITE PLAN.
THE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW PART IS THE EXISTING CARPORT.
IT IS A SMALLER CARPORT, 225 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL SEVEN FOOT TALL.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT IS TO STORE THAT BOAT THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN THE IMAGE I JUST SHOWED YOU.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SETBACK OF THREE FEET TO ZERO FEET.
SO REGARDING THIS REQUEST, 35 NOTICES WORSENED TOUT ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE WAS RETURNED OPPOSED.
THERE IS NOT AN HOA AND STAB DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS IS.
I CAN ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY RIGHT.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY LEFT.
NOW I DO NOT SEE AN APPLICANT COURT HERE.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TO NOTES.
SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THE ROUTINE THEN.
UH, STAFF DOES NOT OPPOSE CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, SO IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THESE, THIS PARTICULAR CASE IN THE ROOM? IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.
UH, MR. CHAIR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
I DO HAVE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT AND ONE O OPPOSITION.
OH, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD'S? JUST THE OPPOSITION.
SO THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION IS FROM MICHAEL CURTIS AT 3 6 6 7 4 TRAIL DRIVE, C GRANDBERRY, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
AND THE COMMENTS READ DEAR SIR OR MADAM, MY NAME IS MICHAEL CURTIS AND I LIVE AT 3 6 6 7 FOREST TRAIL DRIVE, C GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
I HAVE LIVED AT THIS PRESENT ADDRESS FOR OVER 32 YEARS.
MY HOUSE IS LOCATED EXACTLY TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE HOUSE THAT IS REQUESTING THE ZONING BOARD SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO CONSTRUCT A SIDE CARPORT REFERENCE ZBA 2 5 0 4 DASH 0 0 26 CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A SIDE YARD CARPORT.
I WISH IT TO BE KNOWN THAT I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE GRANTING FOR THIS ZONING EXCEPTION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
ONE, IT WOULD HARSHLY CLASH WITH THE EXISTING CURBSIDE APPEAL OF ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES LOCATED ALONG FOREST TRAIL DRIVE.
TWO, IT WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ARBOR CREEK ADDITION.
THREE, IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUE OF MY HOUSE AND
[00:30:01]
EVERY OTHER HOUSE LOCATED ON FOREST TRAIL DRIVE AND GENERALLY WITHIN THE ENTIRE ARBOR CREEK ADDITION.THEREFORE, I STRONGLY OPPOSE A SPECIAL ZONING EXCEPTION.
ZBA 2 5 0 4 DASH 0 0 2 6 COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO LOCATED AT 3 6 5 9 FOREST TRAIL DRIVE IN BERRY, TEXAS.
THIS PROPOSED ZONING EXCEPTION IN NO WAY IMPROVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ITS RESIDENCE.
DOES THE ZONING LAWS THAT ARE MEANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD NOT BE EXEMPTED IN THIS CASE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING MY VIEWPOINT IN THIS IMPORTANT MATTER REGARDS MICHAEL CURTIS.
OKAY, NOW THE IN, IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS, YOU HAD ONE, ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT.
IT'S JUST A REGISTERED POSITION OF SUPPORT.
IT'S JUST A REGISTERED POSITION.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE THE BALANCE SLATE HERE OF, OF BOTH OF THEM AND WANT TO GET BOTH OF THEM.
AND THE REGISTERED POSITION IS LOCATED AT 3 6 4 7 4 SHOW DRIVE, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO HOUSES, UH, NORTH OF THAT PROPERTY.
THE OTHER GUY, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER GUY WAS AT SIX SEVEN.
THIS PROPERTY'S AT, UH, FIVE NINE.
SO IT'S TWO HOUSES ONE WAY AND TWO HOUSES THE OTHER WAY.
MR. DID SALVADOR DID DID YOU SAY IF THERE WERE ANY UH, CARPORTS IN THE AREA WITHIN 300 FEET? THERE'S NOT.
AND THAT'S WHY, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE BROUGHT THEM TO ZBA IN ADDITION TO THAT VARIANCE REQUEST.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A, A STRUCTURE THERE AND WE'RE PARKING A BOAT ON THE, ON THE DIRT OR ON THE GRASS RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE.
IS THAT RAILROAD TIES I'M LOOKING AT IN THE PICTURE? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF DIVIDE THE PROPERTY LINES OF RAILROAD TIES.
ANYWAY, SO GO AHEAD MS. ROGERS.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT WITHIN FEET, BUT ARE THERE ANY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NONE THAT I WAS AWARE OF THAT AT LEAST THAT ARE LEGALLY PERMITTED AND THAT I COULD SPOT ALL.
SO BY ALLOWING, IF WE VOTE TO ALLOW A CARPORT AND THAT SETS A PRECEDENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM
IF, WELL, I MEAN STAFF DOESN'T DO A COMPREHENSIVE SWEEP OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FEET REQUIREMENT.
THEY, AS THEY DRIVE IN AND DRIVE OUT, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW IF THERE'S A CARPORT THAT WAS BUILT AND NOT LEGALLY PERMITTED OR DURING THE GREAT DARK PERIOD OF TWO 20 YEARS AGO WHEN GRAND PRAIRIE DIDN'T HAVE EXCEPTIONAL FILING RECORDS ON A LOT OF STUFF.
SO STUFF WAS LEGALLY APPROVED AND WE DON'T HAVE RECORDS ON IT.
SO, UM, BUT YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
ASSUMING THE INFORMATION IS, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS A CARPORT YES.
THIS A A A VOTE YES TO APPROVE FOR THIS GUY, BUT THE CONCRETE IS PART OF THE CONDITION AND, AND ALL THAT.
SO IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT'S BEFORE US? THAT BEING SAID, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I STILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 6.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO? ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED BY ACCOUNT OF SIX TO THREE.
WAS MR. BAKER'S DIDN'T, MR. BAKER WAS APPROACHED.
MR. SUPPORT THE, UH, THE NO VOTES WERE MS. ROGERS, MR. INE AND MR. EPO? YES.
BECAUSE WAS WASN'T THAT FIVE TO FOUR THEN? IT'S FIVE TO FOUR.
OH, MR. BAKER WAS A NO VOTE YES.
OKAY, WE'LL REPORT IT AS FIVE.
I MISSPOKE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CORRECTION.
[4. ZBA-25-04-0027 (Council District 5) Variance to the maximum square footage of all accessory structures permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 517 NE 18th St., legally described as Lot 16, Block 17, Vought Manor Addition Sec. 3, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Two Family District ]
NUMBER FOUR ZBA 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 7 IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT FIVE 17 NORTHEAST, NORTH, NORTHEAST, EXCUSE ME, 18TH STREET AND ZONED TWO FAMILY DISTRICT SHOWN THERE, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
OUR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BUILD A DETACHED GARAGE WITH A REAR CARPORT TOTALING 700 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS A 2% INCREASE ABOVE THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 686 SQUARE FEET.
THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, BUILDING PERMIT AND THERE'S ALSO EXISTING CONCRETE.
HERE ARE SOME PICTURES AND ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED, UM, GARAGE AND CARPORT.
THERE IS NO HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF? TO MY RIGHT.
OKAY, ON THIS CASE WE HAVE A CARD FOR A MARIO GOMEZ.
[00:35:01]
WOULD YOU PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE JUST SO WE HAVE YOU ON THE RECORD.I KNOW YOU FILLED OUT A CARD IN SUPPORT AND WISH NOT TO SPEAK, BUT I'M STILL GONNA BRING YOU DOWN HERE,
UM, IF YOU'LL START YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, MY NAME IS MARIO ES UH, FIVE 17 NORTHEAST 18 STREET IN GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 50 50.
IS THERE, YOU, YOU HEARD STAFF PRESENT? DO YOU WHAT? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO, TO TELL US ABOUT IT OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? PRIMARILY? THEY DID A GOOD JOB.
WELL THE ELEVATIONS LOOK NICE.
I LIKE THE STRUCTURE AND, AND, AND PUTTING A NICE GARAGE OVER THERE ON THAT AND ON CONCRETE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, I'LL ASK, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. GOMEZ DEMAR RIGHT.
I, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZBA? A 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 7.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ZBA 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 7 SAYING NONE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA A 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 7.
SECOND I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.
AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
I'M GONNA PAY COPIOUS ATTENTION THIS TIME TOO.
WHICH HANDS ARE UP? I COUNTED NINE TO ZERO.
BUT JUNE PLEASE VERIFY IF I'M WRONG.
[5. ZBA-25-04-0028 (Council District 5) Special Exception for a side yard carport and variances to the minimum side yard setback for a side yard carport and to the maximum square footage of all accessory structures permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1522 Hickory St., legally described as Lot 6, Block C, Fairview Addition No.1, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four District ]
MOTION PASSES BY ACCOUNT OF NINE TO ZERO, WHICH TAKES US TO ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH I BELIEVE REQUIRES A MOTION.I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ZBA 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 8 UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
I GOT MR. BAKER AND WE'LL GO WITH MS. MS. ROGERS.
I I HEARD HER A LITTLE, A LITTLE FASTER THAN THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED TO TABLE IN IT? NO.
[6. ZBA-25-04-0029 (Council District 2) Variance to the minimum side yard setback required for a primary structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 2418 Rise Ridge Rd., legally described as Lot 24, Block C, The Preserve at Forum Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-442A ]
THE INCH, HALF INCH GAME.HALF INCH GAME ITEM NUMBER SIX ZBA 25 0 4 0 0 2 9 IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 24 18 RISE RIDGE ROAD, ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 42 A.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM THE REQUIRED 15 TO FOUR 14 FEET.
THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS KIND OF GENERALLY WHERE THE, UM, ENCROACHMENT OF ONE HALF INCH IS HAPPENING.
THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
AND WE'LL RUN THESE AS TWO ITEMS. ITEM, UH, ENDING IN 29 AND ITEM ENDING IN 30.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR BOTH ITEMS. UH, STAFF YOU MAY WANNA CLARIFY THAT IF YOU NEED A SPEAKER CARD ON EACH ITEM FOR FILING PURPOSES, UM, IF HE'S SPEAKING ON BOTH CASES, I BELIEVE SO.
I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY PRESENT BOTH CASES.
JUST VOTE SEPARATELY AND, AND, AND DO TWO, TWO VOTES.
AND WE'LL UPDATE THE SPEAKER CARD TO BE REPRESENTATIVE FOR BOTH, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH ME.
MR. SANDERS IS THE ONLY ONE I SEE IN THE ROOM THAT FILLED OUT A CARD ON THESE TWO CASES.
UH, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE, AS LIKE THE DEVELOPER OF BUILDING THIS THINGS.
THEN I'M GONNA ASK YOU, ASK YOU TO COME ON DOWN IF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE APPLICANT CARDS.
YES, I WAS SAYING, UM, CAN WE ACTUALLY FINISH THE REPRESENTATION FOR THE NEXT ITEM TOO SO WE CAN JUST TAKE SEPARATE MOTION BUT IT'S THE SAME ITEM? YEAH, WELL, OH, YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE PRESENTATION FOR TWO 30? I THINK THEY'LL BE OKAY.
'CAUSE WE'LL JUST VOTE SEPARATELY FOR EACH ITEM.
AND THEN WE'LL JUST DO BACK TO BACK VOTES.
[7. ZBA-25-04-0030 (Council District 2) Variance to the minimum side yard setback required for a primary structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 2417 Ascent Ln., legally described as Lot 25, Block C, The Preserve at Forum Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-442A ]
NUMBER SEVEN ZBA 25 0 4 0 0 3 OH.A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 24 17 ASCENT LANE, ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 42 A.
THE REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THEY'D LIKE TO RE REDUCE THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD FROM 15 TO 14 FEET.
BUT REALLY THERE IS ONLY A HALF INCH ENCROACHMENT.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE IS NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND STAFF DOES NOT OPPOSE THIS REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE TO MY RIGHT OR TO MY LEFT? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS
[00:40:01]
AND VOTES AND MR. SANDERS COMING DOWN FIRST.I GET, I STARTED HEARING THE SONG I USED TO S MY, MY MOM USED TO SING IN THE SECOND VERSE.
IF YOU PUT BOTH OF THESE ON THE SAME ONE, IT'S ONE INCH INSTEAD OF IT'S, IT'S ONE COLLECTIVELY.
SO I'M, UH, J SANDERS WITH, UH, DR HORTON.
UM, THE ADDRESSES ARE 24 18 RISE RIDGE IN 24 17.
ASCENT IN GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM, SIR? EAST TEXAS.
YOU GOT AN ADDRESS? GIMME A STREET ADDRESS IN EAST TEXAS.
I'M NOT SHOWING UP FOR COFFEE.
I JUST NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, BUT UM, TELL US ABOUT THIS.
SO YOU GOT DEER HORTON'S BUILDING THESE TWO PROPERTIES? YES, SIR.
ARCHITECT BUILT, HAD GREAT DESIGNS AND WOULD NOT BUDGE BY A HALF INCH, HUH? YEAH,
UM, BUT THEY'RE, UH, REALLY POPULAR, UM, UH, DESIGN THAT WE HAVE.
SO DESIGN IT AND UH, THOSE WERE A HALF INCH OFF.
SO YOU WANTED TO COME MEET US
I SEE THAT CHEAPER TO DO THIS LIKE A HALF INCH OFF HOUSE.
YEAH, ACTUALLY PROBABLY IS GETTING IT REDESIGNED AND WHETHER AN ARCHITECT WOULD CHARGE YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SANDERS OR CAN WE MOVE ON? I SEE NOBODY.
UH, ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF EITHER OF THESE CASES? 29 OR 30? ANYONE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO 29 OR 30? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS.
WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CHAIRMAN AND, WELL, THOSE WHO ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE CAN SEE THAT SANDERS IS NOT TECHNICALLY MY REAL NAME.
AND SO WHILE HE'S A REAL SANDERS, I'M NOT
BUT FOR 35 YEARS AND PROFESSIONALLY FOR ADVERTISING, I'VE BEEN, UH, SANDERS.
BUT MY REALIZED NAME IS SANDIS, JUST PRONOUNCED JUST LIKE CANDACE.
BUT IN TEXAS, WHEN YOUR NAME ENDS IN A CNA Z IT JUST FRAUGHT WITH PERIL.
AND WHEN YOU'RE A SALESMAN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO REMEMBER YOUR NAME, CNZ IS NOT GONNA GET YOU THERE.
NO, HE WASN'T REALLY COLONEL SANDERS AS MUCH AS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN COOL FOR UNLIMITED BUCKETS OF CHICKEN.
MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 5 0 4 0 0 2 9.
UH, HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND A SECOND FOR MR. UH, MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I ASK, UH, APPROVE, UH, OR VOTE ON THE MOTION.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
MR. THERE'S, THERE'S A HALF INCH
UH, NOW SECOND MOTION ON CASE ENDING IN THREE ZERO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND APPROVE ZVA 2 5 0 4 0 0 3 0.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN CITIZEN COMMENTS? EVERYBODY ELSE IS RELATED OR WORKING? SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
SO WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED WITH A SIX ITEM AGENDA IN 28 MINUTES.
THANK YOU FOLKS FOR ALL BEING HERE.
I APPRECIATE IT WHEN WE CAN HAVE A FULL BOARD OF NINE FOR THE CITIZENS AND HOW THE VOTES FALLS, HOW THE VOTES FALL.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.