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[RECONVENE MEETING]

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HEY, CALLED THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE STARTED AT FOUR 30.

HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS ALL EVENING, HAD A NICE SUPPER.

NOW WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION TONIGHT OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR MARTIN LYNCH WITH GATEWAY.

COME ON FORWARD.

OUR PLEDGES WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KURT JOHNSON.

PLEASE RISE RIGHT UP HERE.

RIGHT THERE.

IT'S BOW OUR HEADS, AND QUIET OUR HEARTS.

ALMIGHTY GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS THE SOURCE OF ALL WISDOM, AUTHORITY, AND JUSTICE.

WE HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND BLESSING UPON OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

LORD, WE PRAY.

PRAY FOR BLESSINGS AND WISDOM FOR OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL WHO HOLD POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP.

WE PRAY FOR UNITY IN OUR CITY.

HELP US LORD, HELP US LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR OURSELVES, AND EXTEND GRACE AND COMPASSION.

WE LIFT UP THOSE IN OUR CITY WHO ARE STRUGGLING TODAY.

LORD, THE POOR, THE SICK, THE LONELY.

WE PRAY FOR PEACE AND SAFETY IN OUR STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

LORD, PROTECT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDER.

PROTECT OUR OUR CHILDREN, OUR TEACHERS.

WE PRAY TODAY FOR STRONG FAMILIES, THRIVING BUSINESSES AND GREAT SCHOOLS.

MAY OUR CITY BE A PLACE WHERE YOUR LIGHT SHINES BRIGHTLY.

AND FINALLY, LORD, WE PRAY THAT WE MAY BE ALWAYS SEEKING TO HONOR YOU IN OUR WORDS AND OUR DEBTS.

AMEN AND AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING TO JOIN THE COUNCIL AND I TO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF THE US AND TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE THROUGH THE FLAG WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THROUGH THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH WE STANDARDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.

ONE SIX ONE.

I'LL CALL

[PRESENTATIONS]

ON LISA.

COME ON DOWN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP THIS YEAR, LISA.

YOU BET.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, LISA NORRIS, MANAGING DIRECTOR IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF, UH, PROVIDING PROGRAMMING THROUGH THE MAYOR'S WILL AT, UH, FOR THE MAYOR'S TEEN COUNCIL THIS YEAR.

AND WE ARE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR YEAR.

THEY, UH, COME, THE STUDENTS COME TO US FROM SEVEN SCHOOLS AND, UM, THEY'RE COMPLETING THEIR 24 25 MAYOR'S TEEN COUNCIL.

MY HOPE IS THAT THIS ISN'T THE LAST TIME THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THEIR FACES.

WE'RE HOPING IN THE WORDS OF DR.

SEUS, SO THE PLACES THEY'LL GO AND THAT WE MAY SEE THEM BACK MAYBE AT OUR LOCAL LEVEL AS A STAFF MEMBER, MAYBE IN ONE OF YOUR SEATS DOWN THE ROAD, OR MAYBE EVEN AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL.

SO WE ARE HOPEFUL IN THEIR JOURNEY AS THEY ARE INTERESTED IN IN GOVERNMENT.

MAYOR, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ENERGY AND INVESTMENT IN THIS PROGRAM.

YOU HELPED GUIDE ME WHEN I WAS LIKE, WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR? AND, UH, WE CHANGED IT UP A BIT AND I THINK IT WENT GREAT.

LET'S, LET'S FORGET WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

LET'S DO SOMETHING THIS YEAR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SOME OF IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SAME , BUT WE DID IT AND HAD A GREAT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

YOU BET.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM, YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE STUDENTS.

I KNOW THEY TALKED ABOUT IT.

UH, THEY LOVED HEARING ABOUT YOUR ROLE AND THE ROLE OF COUNCIL AND OUR, UH, STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY DO TO OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.

WE'LL BRING THEM UP HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, WE HOPE THAT THEY ENJOYED THE PROGRAM.

I KNOW IT SPARKED YOUR INTEREST IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT GENERALLY.

UM, OVER THIS PAST YEAR, THE STUDENTS EXPERIENCED OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR MEETINGS.

WE KIND OF THREW THEM INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

OUR CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING SESSION, THE, UH, SESSIONS LIKE THIS, OUR ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE TAUGHT THEM THE VALUE OF VOLUNTEERISM.

THEY DID, HAD TO DO EVENTS FOR BOTH THEIR SCHOOL AND THE BIG EVENT HERE AT THE CITY TO ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY.

AND THEN THEY WERE IMMERSED IN OUR NEW CITY DAY WITH OUR DEPARTMENTAL TRADE SHOW, WHICH I KNOW THEY LOVED.

AND IT WAS FIRST TIME EVER FOR THAT.

YES.

AND I THINK, I THINK WE ALL ENJOYED IT.

VERY SUCCESSFUL THANK YOU TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAD OVER 20 DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATED WITH THE STUDENTS, SO THEY'VE BEEN BUSY.

UH, AS A RESULT, WE'VE GOT A BRIEF VIDEO TO SHOW YOU AS A RECAP OVER THE YEAR, UH, FOR THEM.

THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT EITHER.

AND FOR

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OUR COUNCIL, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BUSY AT WORK ON OUR BEHALF, LEARNING ABOUT, UH, ALL THAT WE DO HERE AT THE CITY.

AND THEN WE'LL BRING 'EM UP AFTER THE VIDEO TO DO A QUICK PICTURE.

AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE STAFF HERE AS WELL, THEIR PARENTS.

UM, BUT WE'LL GET A PICTURE WITH YOU AND CLOSING COMMENTS, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THEM AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU MAYOR ERIC.

A GOOD EXAMPLE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AS A VOLUNTEER SOMEHOW.

I THINK IT'S COOL THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THAT HELPS ALL THE .

I LOVE IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM LAW SCHOOLS AREA.

SO IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE EVERYONE BEING HERE.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY SPECIAL AND REALLY TO JUST GIVE BACK, GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO JUST DO SOMETHING FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND JUST BE HUMBLE AND SELFLESS.

HI, I'M BUSTA FROM GRAND PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL AMERICAN COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SUPPORTING STAFF.

MY NAME IS JANIAH LEE.

HI, MY NAME IS CIA AND I ATTEND GRAND PRIX FINE ARTS ACADEMY.

FOR OUR PROJECT, WE DECIDED TO DO A COLD WEATHER DRIVE, COLLECTING CLOTHING AND OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD HELP PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

STAY WARM THIS WINTER.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS STEVE ROMAN.

HI, MY NAME IS LINA .

WE DID A DRIVE OUR SCHOOL.

HI GUYS.

GOING TO TOUR THE CITY WITH THE BAYER WITH GRANDEY HIGH SCHOOL.

SO OUR FIRST OFF OF THE DAY, IT'S GONNA BE AS THE POLICE AND FIRE.

WE'RE GONNA GET OUR TOUR BY SOME RAPE OFFICER AND THEY'RE GONNA TELL US ABOUT LIKE THE OPTION AND WHAT THEY DO HERE AT THE CITY.

HEY GUYS, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE S NOW THIS IS GONNA BE MY FUTURE, FUTURE ET I'M GONNA GO INSIDE THE ENTRANCE.

WE JUST EXITED THE FLEET SERVICE WEEK AND LIKE OVER HERE, IT'S LIKE THE SERVICING ALL THE CITY VEHICLE BACK THERE.

YOU SEE THE COP CAR, BABY SERVICE, ALL THESE CITY VEHICLE FEE SERVICE.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE EAT, Y'ALL HAVE TO HAVE YOU.

THE COUNTRY NEEDS THAT.

SO COME BACK AND JOINTS MY STAFF.

I GET C THAT.

ALRIGHT MAYOR, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STUDENTS, IF YOU'LL COME UP NOW, UH, AND JOIN THE MAYOR AND HE'S GOT SOME COMMENTS FOR YOU.

BUT ALL THE STUDENTS COME UP AND, UH, ANY, UH, ROD IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD TOO, THAT YOU HELPED WITH THE PROGRAM AND ANY THANKS ERIC.

SCHOOL STAFF ARE HERE, SIR.

OKAY.

WHILE THEY'RE COMING DOWN THE TEAM COUNCIL, I DON'T EXACTLY DON'T COME BACK KNOW HOW MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING IT.

I THINK AROUND 10.

UM, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM.

I LOVE IT.

UH, GET TO MEET THESE KIDS AND SOME THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

WE'VE SEEN, UH, LATER INVOLVED IN THE CITY, UH, WORKING HERE.

WE'VE SEEN 'EM AROUND TOWN, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM IS FAR.

NOT NECESSARILY TO GET THEM TO WANNA RUN FAR OFFICE, ALTHOUGH IT'S PART OF IT.

NOT NECESSARILY TO GET THEM TO VOLUNTEER, ALTHOUGH THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.

ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS IS TO SHOW 'EM EVERYTHING THE CITY DOES.

UH, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES KIDS AND, UH, ADULTS TOO DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO.

MY GOODNESS.

YOU'D LOVE A TOUR OF EVERY PLACE WE TAKE THEM.

YOU REALLY WOULD.

AND TO TALK TO OUR, OUR STAFF AND ALL.

SO WE TAKE 'EM ALL OVER, UM, SHOW 'EM WHAT WE DO, INSTRUCT THEM AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE ON HOW THEY CAN APPLY FOR JOBS.

'CAUSE WE REALLY DO WANT THEM TO SUCCEED.

YOU DO.

EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WANTS THEM TO SUCCEED.

I DO.

THEIR PARENTS DO.

AND IT'S BEEN A WORTHWHILE EFFORT FOR ME.

AND, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE STAFF.

LISA, THIS WAS YOUR YEAR.

UH, THANK YOU ERIC, ROD, ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO LET'S GET A PICTURE.

I'LL GET RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE BIG GROUP.

THERE'S TOO MANY.

YEAH,

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THERE'S TOO MANY I'VE GOT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO FOR THEM WHEN WE MEET IN THIS ROOM, I, UH, I DON'T DO A LOT.

WELL, I DO A LOT OF TALKING, BUT IT'S NOT SCRIPTED.

I LET THEM ASK ME QUESTIONS.

AND, UH, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

UH, THEY ASK US SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.

UH, YOU NEED TO GO WITH ME SOMETIMES WHEN THE FOURTH GRADERS ASK ME QUESTIONS.

OH, .

OH MY GOODNESS.

DON'T THEY HAVE AN IMAGINATION? AND I LOVE IT.

THAT'S, UH, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

NOTHING AGAINST THESE JUNIORS AND SENIORS.

HOW MANY OF YOUR SENIORS? ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A FEW JUNIORS.

THANK Y'ALL.

SEE, CONTINUE ON AND COME BACK.

BUT , REBECCA ENJOYS GOING WITH ME EVERYWHERE.

AND ONE OF HER FAVORITES IS TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE KIDS ASK ME, THE FOURTH GRADERS.

AND I NEED, I NEED TO WRITE A BOOK, WHAT THE FOURTH GRADERS ASKED ME.

AND I NEED TO START WRITING THEM DOWN.

YOU'D BE AMAZED AT HOW SMART THESE KIDS ARE AND HOW SMART FOURTH GRADERS ARE.

UH, SO Y'ALL MADE IT A PLEASURE FOR ME.

Y'ALL WERE ATTENTIVE, RESPECTFUL, ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS.

Y'ALL ARE GONNA SUCCEED.

YES YOU ARE.

AND I WANT YOU TO LET ME KNOW AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU DO IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GIVE 'EM A HAND.

NOW, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING, .

YOU CAN, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

YOUR ASSIGNMENT IS OVER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU'VE GRADUATED.

YOU'VE GRADUATED.

THAT'S RIGHT.

STUDENTS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ENERGY.

WE APPRECIATE EACH OF YOU.

I'M GONNA PUT CERTIFICATES ON THE BACK IF YOU FRIENDS, YOU HAVE THEM, PLEASE GRAB THEM AND TAKE IT TO THEM.

THEY'LL PROBABLY GET TO THEM FASTER.

ALRIGHT.

CLEAR ACT.

THANK YOU .

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

ADAM, WOULD YOU DO THE FIRST ONE? THIS IS A PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS TOURETTE'S SYNDROME IS AN INHERITED NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER AND IS OFTEN ACCOMPANIED BY OTHER DISORDERS IN ANXIETIES AS WELL AS DISABILITIES.

WHEREAS TOURETTE'S SYNDROME AND PERSISTENT TIC DISORDERS AFFECT ONE IN 50 CHILDREN WITH OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND TEXAS SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CURRENTLY AFFECTED BY TOURETTE'S SYNDROME.

AND WHEREAS POSITIVE ACTIONS TO ASSIST STUDENTS, CHILDREN, AND FAMILIES LIVING WITH TOURETTE SYNDROME WOULD RESULT FROM A BROADENING OF PUBLIC AND PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND ACCEPTANCE OF TOURETTE'S SYNDROME.

NOW THEREFORE, OUR MAYOR, RON JENSEN, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS AND CITY COUNCIL OF GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS, HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 15TH, 2025 THROUGH JUNE 15TH, 2025 AS TOURETTE SYNDROME AWARENESS MONTH IN OUR CITY TO PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING, COMPASSION AND ACCEPTANCE FOR ALL OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

IMPACTED BY TOURETTE SYNDROME, WITNESSED BY OUR MAYOR, HANNON SEAL OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS THIS DAY, THE 6TH OF MAY, 2025.

RON JENSEN, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHO IS HERE TO ACCEPT THIS? I DON'T SEE, THERE YOU ARE.

WELL, GOODNESS.

ONE OF MY TEAM COUNSEL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET'S GET A PICTURE.

SEE, SHE'S ALREADY DOING WHAT WE WANT HER TO DO.

, RIGHT? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ON YOU.

YES, SIR.

I'LL BE DOING ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE MUNICIPAL CLERK SLASH CITY SECRETARY WEEK PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE PROFESSION OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS IS ESSENTIAL TO THE EFFECTIVE FUNCTIONING OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN TEXAS, ENSURING TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE SMOOTH OPERATION OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

AND WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF MUNICIPAL CLERK SLASH CITY SECRETARY CELEBRATING ITS 56TH ANNIVERSARY

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IS THE OLDEST AMONG PUBLIC SERVANTS AND SERVES AS THE INFORMATION CENTER ON FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY AND IMPARTIALITY, WHILE SERVING AS A PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS, THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES AND AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS.

WHEREAS MUNICIPAL CLERKS DEMONSTRATE EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND INTEGRITY IN THEIR WORK, OFTEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES AND FACILITATE THE EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

AND WHEREAS THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL CLERK ASSOCIATION, TMCA REPRESENTS MORE THAN ONE 1000 AND A HUNDRED MUNICIPAL CLERKS WHO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE SUCCESS AND EFFICIENCY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS.

NOW THEREFORE, OUR MAYOR RON JENSEN.

AND ON BEHALF OF THIS GRAND PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL, YOU HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE WEEK OF MAY 4TH, 2025 AS MUNICIPAL CLERK SLASH CITY SECRETARY WEEK IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.

AND FURTHER EXTEND APPRECIATION TO OUR CITY SECRETARY, MONA LISA DELICIA AND DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY GLORIA COVIN, FOR THEIR VITAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO PUBLIC SERVICE, THE IMPORTANT ROLES THEY PLAY IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF OUR CITY, AND FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY REPRESENT.

WITNESS OUR MAYOR'S HAND AND THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

ON THIS DAY OF THE SIXTH, ON THE SIXTH DAY OF MAY, 2025.

IT'S NOW SIGNED, SEALED, AND BE DELIVERED.

UM, WE HAVE LOTS OF RULES TO FOLLOW.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

STAFF GOT TOGETHER LAST WEDNESDAY, EVERY WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE TUESDAY OF A COUNCIL MEETING.

THEY GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THE AGENDA.

THAT'S THE EASY PART.

THE HARD PART IS GETTING EVERYTHING BEHIND IT TOGETHER AND GETTING IT POSTED BY LAW.

WE HAVE TO POST THE AGENDA 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS.

SO WE COULD WAIT UNTIL FOUR 30 SATURDAY.

AND WE HAVE BEFORE .

WE TRY TO GET IT OUT BY THE END OF THE DAY, FRIDAY.

BUT WE HAVE HAD TO HOLD IT OPEN SOMETIMES AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND DO IT BY SATURDAY AT FOUR 30.

SHE SENDS US A DRAFT AGENDA THAT NIGHT ON WEDNESDAY.

WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT, MAKE CHANGES, ASK FOR CHANGES, ASK QUESTIONS.

I, AND, BUT THAT'S JUST PART OF IT.

UH, SHE AND MEL FROM THE LEGAL SIDE KEEP US IN ORDER.

SHE'S THE LOCKBOX.

KEEPS US ON TASK FOR WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DISCUSS.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE, IN DISCUSSIONS WHEN THERE'S MORE THAN FOUR OF US TOGETHER, UH, WE CAN'T DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS. YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE'RE OUT HERE AND IF WE DRIFT OFF BASE DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, MEL WILL RAISE HER HAND AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO COME ON.

WE'VE GOTTA GET BACK ON COURSE.

AND MONA AND GLORIA KEEP US INFORMED OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO LEGALLY.

ELECTIONS, UH, ELECTIONS.

WE HAVE TO CANVAS IT.

WE, SHE'S ALREADY CALLED FOR THE CANVASSING NEXT WEEK.

I MEAN, SHE JUST, THEY STAY ON TOP OF IT.

AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE YOU.

UH, LINDA, YOU DIDN'T ASK ME IF I APPROVED THIS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

.

LINDA, LINDA LINDA'S OUR RECORDS COORDINATOR.

RAISE YOUR HAND LINDA.

SHE'S OUR RECORDS COORDINATOR.

, BIG JOB.

BIG JOB.

BIG JOB.

SO HERE, LET'S GET A PICTURE OF ME AND MONA.

MONA, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL.

Y'ALL WILL ALL AGREE.

SHE DOES A GREAT JOB.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR

[CONSENT AGENDA]

PRO TIMM, WE'VE GOT SOME WANTING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT.

SO WE'LL START WITH CHARLIE GARZA.

NUMBER EIGHT.

CHARLIE.

MR. GARZA.

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SORRY.

CHARLIE NUMBER 14.

.

I BROKE IT ALREADY.

.

NO, YOUR TIME'S UP.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S GOING FASTER IN REFERENCE TO NUMBER EIGHT.

WELL FIRST OF ALL, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNSEL.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND I DON'T SEE A PIN TO THIS EITHER A REQUEST FOR A, UM, A BID OR HOW THIS PARTICULAR COMPANIES WERE SELECTED AS THE COMPANIES TO PRODU PRODUCE THIS SERVICE.

AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER $500,000 ANNUALLY, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE BID PROCESS OR WHAT WAS THE PROCESS TO DETERMINE THESE TWO COMPANIES? SURE.

HI, CAROL DERE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.

FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU REQUEST TO DO A BIDDING FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES, YOU DON'T ASK FOR A BID.

YOU CANNOT ASK FOR A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

YOU HAVE TO DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

YOU CHOOSE THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRST, AND THEN YOU CAN START WORKING ON MONEY FROM THERE.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS ADVERTISED AND WAS SENT TO 1,535 DIFFERENT VENDORS, 1,372 OF WHICH WERE HUB AND, UH, FIVE WERE LOCAL.

UH, WE RECEIVED ABOUT 14 DIFFERENT RESPONDERS FROM THEIR RESPONSES.

WE BOILED IT DOWN TO, UM, SHORTLISTED IT TO TWO, AND WE WANTED TO INTERVIEW THEM FOR FIRST AND SECOND SPOT.

AND WHAT THIS IS, IS AN AS NEEDS CONTRACT, IT MAY NEVER GET TO 500,000, BUT WE HAVE THE ROOM ON THERE IF IT HAPPENS.

THE REASON WE'RE COMING TO THIS NOW IS BECAUSE PROJECTS WILL HAPPEN DURING THE YEAR THAT WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON.

AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, DRAINAGE, ROADWAYS, BRIDGES, GUARDRAILS, WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY AND WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT CAN SEAL IT AND KEEP US MOVING.

AND THIS IS TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT COME UP, HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALREADY HAVE THEM ON BOARD AND GET THEM MOVING ON THAT WHOLE RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT IT'S AN AS NEEDS.

WE COULD USE 5,000 OF IT.

WE COULD USE NONE OF IT, BUT IT'S HERE WHEN WE NEED IT, AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH IT WHEN THE PROJECTS COME UP.

WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND QUESTION? WELL, BASED ON HER STATEMENT, UH, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY IF IT'S NOT USED? WHERE DOES IT GO BACK TO? HOW DO WE RIGHT.

IT'S REPRIORITIZE THAT RIGHT? IT GETS, THE MONEY WOULD BE PRIORITIZED BY A PROJECT USED TOWARDS THIS.

THERE'S NO MONEY HELD BY THIS.

NO.

IT'S AN AS NEEDS CONTRACT.

WELL, IT'S NOT USED.

WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO? WELL, THERE'S NO MONEY ASSIGNED TO THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE A PROJECT.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

ON AN AS NEEDS CONTRACT, WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NO MONEY.

WE'RE NOT ENCUMBERING IT, IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, BUT WE'RE HAVING ROOM ON THE CONTRACT IN CASE YOU NEED IT, GIVEN THAT YOU COULD MM-HMM .

HOW DO YOU THEN MAKE A BUDGET? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BASE IT ON WHAT IFS? OUR BUDGET IS UP TO 500,000.

PERFECT.

YES.

ACTUALLY THE BUDGET'S UP TO 500,000, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES.

UM, WE HAVE ROOM IN OPERATING.

SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE ROOM IN CAPITAL.

SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO PURCHASING AND HAVE SOME SORT OF EMERGENCY THING IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS AND WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

THIS IS FOR STREETS PRIMARILY.

OKAY.

AND WHAT'S THE RUBRIC THAT YOU CHOOSE AND STANDARDS TO NARROW THIS LIST DOWN? IN OTHER WORDS, KENT, HOW DID YOU, WHAT DID YOU USE AS CRAFT HERE TO PICK UP THESE TWO VENDORS? WE SENT OUT THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR ALL THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY BE USING.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE ROADWAYS AND YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

YOU RIGHT.

YOU SELECT TO PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING FIRMS ON ROADWAYS, BRIDGES, GUARDRAILS, AND STORM DRAINS.

AND THEY COME TO US WITH REQUEST OF QUALIFICATIONS, INCLUDING PREVIOUS WORK THEY'VE DONE, UM, AND MUNICIPALITIES AND ALL THAT.

WE, WE GO THROUGH ALL THEIR GRADING AND THEN OF COURSE WE GO INTO THE INTERVIEW SESSION TO DETERMINE FINAL, FINAL CHOICES.

SO, OKAY.

I'M, I'LL STEP BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.

YOU USED TERMS LIKE GRADING.

GRADING, INFERS.

DID YOU HAVE STANDARDS SAY THIS STANDARD IS A, STANDARDS B STANDARD CI GAVE THIS STANDARD AN 80, THIS STANDARD OF 50, WHATEVER.

I'M MAKING NUMBERS UP, OBVIOUSLY.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

HOW DO YOU DETERMINE HOW THAT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

SO HERE'S THE EVALUATION SCORECARD.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO YOU CAN, THE, AND EACH, EACH PERSON THAT WAS REVIEWED WAS CREATED BASED ON THIS P IT'S IN THE PACKET.

EACH FIRM.

IT'S IN THE PACKET.

IT'S IN THE PACKET.

OKAY.

AND DOES EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DO THIS BLINDLY OR DO YOU DO IT AS A GROUP? THE VOTE, THE, THE, THE, NO, NO, THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE DOESN'T DO THIS.

COUNCIL COMMITTEE DOESN'T DO DO THIS.

WE APPROVE WHAT THEY BRING TO US.

WE DON'T HAVE TO.

BUT THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE, WE WEREN'T PART OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.

NONE OF US.

OKAY.

WHICH IS PRETTY, WHICH IS STANDARD.

WHICH IS STANDARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE LET OUR ORGANIZATION DO FOR US.

WE HAVE AN ODD NUMBERED PANEL OF, OF EMPLOYEES OF THE, LIKE THAT WOULD BE WORKING ON THE SAME TYPE PROJECTS.

REVIEW ALL OF THESE FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS

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TO MAKE SURE WE HAVEN'T CROSSED THE BOARD.

WE HAVE SO MANY PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES.

UH, MR. GARZA, IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR YEARS, UPDATING THEM.

THEY'RE GOOD STANDARD PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES.

SO, UM, SHE'S EXPLAINED IT.

WHAT WAS YOUR OTHER QUESTION ON THIS ITEM? YOUR TIME'S UP, BUT I'M GONNA AHEAD AND GIVE YOU A BIT.

NO, THAT'S SATISFIED THAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS.

WE'LL LET YOU DO 14 WHILE YOU'RE UP.

OKAY.

IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 14, I HIGHLIGHTED A WORD ON MY AGENDA, WHICH IS THE LAST WORD ON THE FIRST SENTENCE.

AND THAT WAS THE WORD STUDY ON MORE THAN ONE AGENDA.

I'VE SEEN THE WORD STUDY ONCE THIS, WHATEVER, IN THIS CASE, THE, THIS SERVICE OR DRE IS STUDIED, THEN WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO GO FROM A STUDY TO IMPLEMENTATION TO RESOLVE WHATEVER THE ISSUE MAY BE AT HAND.

NOREEN, GOOD EVENING.

NOREEN HOUSEWRIGHT, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITY SERVICES.

UM, YES, THIS IS FOR A DRAINAGE STUDY FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, BASICALLY IN THE CORE OF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY.

SO THE STUDY WILL EVALUATE THE ENTIRE AREA, THE TOPOGRAPHY, WHERE IT IS, KIND OF EVALUATE WHAT COULD BE DONE AND COME BACK TO THE CITY WITH SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO, LIKE BASED ON PRICES, EVALUATION BY RANK.

AT THAT POINT, WE'LL LOOK AT THE STUDY, DECIDE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND THEN WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH THE DETAILED DESIGN.

SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE PHASE TWO IS THE ENGINEERED STUDY WHERE IT'S DETAILED DESIGN THAT WOULD GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND WE WILL PICK WHICH ONES WE WANT TO FUND.

RIGHT.

AND WHICH ONES THAT HAVE TO BE FUNDED LATER, IF ANY, ONCE THE STUDY'S DONE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE STUDY SAYS AND WHAT THEIR EVALUATION IS, WE MAY CHOOSE TO NOT DO ANY IN A CERTAIN YEAR.

IT DEPENDS ON, AND WE MAY CHOOSE, BOY, WE GOTTA REALLY DO THIS ONE NOW.

AND OTHERS.

THAT'S PRETTY COMMON.

I GUESS THE QUESTION WITHIN THE QUESTION IS, A STUDY IS JUST STUDYING SOMETHING.

THAT'S IT.

YES.

NOT NECESSARILY GIVING US ANY KIND OF, THEY'LL COME WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE END.

SO THEY'LL EVALUATE.

SO MAYBE EVALUATE, MIGHT, THEY'LL EVALUATE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'LL COME UP WITH WHAT THEY FEEL IS DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE COULD APPROACH THIS TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE DRAINAGE SITUATIONS IN THERE.

USUALLY JUST SUBMITS ON WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

CORRECT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE AMOUNT ALLOCATED POTENTIALLY MM-HMM .

IS $103,820.

MM-HMM .

THAT SEEMS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

IT IS, BUT IT'S A BIG STUDY.

I'VE DONE STUDIES FOR A WHATABURGER, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN IT SEEMS KIND OF, SO HIGH NUMBER WITH, WITH THIS STUDY, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GOING DO TOPOGRAPHY.

IT'S A BIG STUDY.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA EVALUATE THE DRAINAGE THAT IS AROUND, THEY'RE WITH THE OPTIONS LIKE A, B, OR C.

THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN EVALUATION OF, TO GIVE US A GOOD ESTIMATE.

THEY'D HAVE TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE.

LIKE IF YOU WENT WITH OPTION A, WE'RE GONNA PUT, YOU KNOW, STORM DRAIN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH INLETS.

THE COST WOULD BE THIS SECOND OPTION COULD BE, WELL WE WILL, WE NEED DO IT AT THIS SPOT'S A BIG AREA.

IT'S A BIG AREA.

INDIAN HILL IS A BIG AREA.

IT'S A BIG STUDY.

OKAY.

AND DID THE SAME STANDARDS APPLY TO WEST PROFESSIONAL THAT APPLIED TO THE ONE IN ITEM A IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE STEPS YOU DID TO SELECT THEM? SO ON THIS ONE THEY HAD DONE, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ONE BEFORE AND THEY HAD DONE SOME WORK IN THIS AREA.

SO PART OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROCUREMENT ACT, WE CAN FOR MULTI-PHASE OR ONES BEFORE, WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO THE RFQ.

IN THIS CASE, WE CHOSE ONE THAT WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

NORMALLY WE DO THE RQ WHERE YOU SELECT FOR QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE, THE PROPOSAL PROCESS.

SO THIS ONE'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS ALREADY FOR PREVIOUS JOBS, BUT WOULDN'T THAT GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE KIND OF PICKING A HORSE IN THE RACE EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE DONE IT PREVIOUSLY? AND IT LOOKS LIKE MAY BE A , YOU CAN WORD IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO, IS GO BACK WITH SOMEBODY WE KNEW INSTEAD OF GOING OUT FOR A NEW RFI.

OKAY.

THANK YOU HAROLD.

WE'LL JUST GO IN ORDER.

ITEM 12.

UH, YES PLEASE.

HAROLD WILLIS.

5 3 8 LINLEY, UH, FOR THE $79,000 TO FREEZE IN NICKELS ON THE STORM WATER UTILITY FEE.

WHAT ARE WE GONNA GET OUT OF THAT? GOOD EVENING, HAROLD? YES.

THE RAIN HOUSE, RIGHT? YES.

DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITY SERVICES.

SO, UM, THE, THE REVIEW FEE WILL, THEY'LL EVALUATE OUR OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE, OUR NEED, OUR CIP, THEY'LL REVIEW, UM, WHAT WE CURRENTLY TAKE IN WHAT, AND EVALUATE WHAT THE NEED IS FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL, DECIDE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF ANYTHING, ON CHANGING THE STORMWATER FEE.

NOW THIS STORMWATER FEE THAT'S ASSESSED ON CITIES OVER 100,000, 200,000.

WHAT? IT COULD BE ANYTHING.

SOME CITIES DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

SOME DO.

IT,

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IT, IT RANGES BASED ON YOUR NEED.

SO IT'S SIMILAR TO THE WATER WASTEWATER RATES.

WE, WE LOOK AT THE RATES EVERY YEAR.

SO ON YOUR WATER BILL, YOU SEE A STORMWATER FEE, RIGHT? UHHUH .

AND THAT'S BASED ON IF YOU'RE RESIDENTIAL, YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IF IT'S COMMERCIAL, IT'S BASED ON YOUR IMPERVIOUS AREA.

SO THAT ISN'T A MANDATE FROM EPA, THAT'S A VOLUNTARY FEE.

IT, IT'S A WAY FOR THE CITY TO HAVE FUNDS.

THEY'RE MANDATED REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

EVERY CITY HAS TO DO.

THOSE REQUIRE MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SOME CITIES FUND IT DIFFERENT WAYS.

WE FUND IT THROUGH A FEE RATHER THAN THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

MM-HMM .

FUNDING THIS, DOESN'T THAT ANSWER THAT QUESTION? DO WE GET ANY MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE EPA ON US? NO.

NO MATCHING FEDERAL FUNDS? NO.

MOST OF THESE ARE STATE IMPOSED OR FEDERAL IMPOSED REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET WITH NO MATCHING FEES, NO MATCHING GRANTS.

SO DOES FREEZE AND NICKELS.

THIS IS THE GOING INTO COTTONWOOD CREEK, GOING INTO OTHER FISH CREEK? NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DRAINAGE STUDY.

THIS DRAINAGE STUDY'S GONNA LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, ALSO INCLUDING STAFF.

LIKE WHAT DOES STAFF DO? THE ONES THAT DO THE DRAINAGE COMPLAINTS THAT DO OUR STORM WATER INSPECTIONS, BUT ALSO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO DO, EVALUATE THAT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WE THINK OUR RATES NEED TO BE.

AND THEY'LL DO A FIVE YEAR EVALUATION.

UM, AND THEY'LL COME BACK WITH SUGGESTIONS ON THIS.

THESE FEES PAY FOR ALL THE, UM, MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS IN STORMWATER.

STORMWATER DOES NOT HAVE ANY GENERAL FUND MONEY.

OKAY.

SO THE MAINTAINING OF THE, THE DRAINS THAT WE SEE IN THE STREET YES.

IS THIS YES, BUT ALL OF THAT DITCH IN THE PIPE, THE PIPES UNDERGROUND.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT THAT DOESN'T GO TO THE TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY, DOES IT? THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO, THAT GOES INTO OUR FUND FOR THE STORMWATER? NO.

WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? WHERE DOES THE, INTO THE CREEK.

THE CREEK.

IT GOES INTO ALL OUR CREEKS.

IT GOES INTO THE CREEKS.

YES, IT GOES INTO LAKES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY WE SEE THIS ISN'T WHEN YOU FLUSH YOUR TOILET.

YEAH.

THIS IS WHEN IT RAINS, RIGHT? YEAH.

WHEN YOU SEE PLASTIC BOTTLES, ALUMINUM CANS, ALL KINDS OF DEBRIS.

TWO WEEKS AGO ON MY STREET, THERE WAS A CITY COUP OUT THERE WITH WEEDIES.

HAROLD.

HAROLD, STICK TO THIS QUESTION.

NO, THAT'S NOT, DOES THAT INCLUDE NO, TO THIS QUESTION.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THIS FEED? DOES THAT INCLUDE TO IT INCLUDES THE GRASS AROUND EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO MAINTAIN A GOOD WATER SYSTEM PERIOD AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

OKAY.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS ON THE POPULATION OF THE CITY.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT CITIES JUST HAVE TO HOW THE CITY CHOOSES TO FUND THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.

OKAY.

SO, AND WHAT IS THE AVERAGE THAT WE PAY FOR RESIDENTS? UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S FIVE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE CHART HERE.

FIVE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO JUST A, A REGULAR 1800 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

YEAH.

SO, UH, 1800 SQUARE FOOT HOME WOULD PAY $4 AND 69 CENTS A MONTH.

4, 6, 9, 9.

THIS IS THE CURRENT RATE.

SO THIS IS ONE THING THAT THEY'LL, AFTER THEIR EVALUATION, THEY'LL COME BACK WITH SUGGEST LOOK, THEY LOOK WHAT NEEDS ARE, SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO CAPITALIZE IT AND SEE IF WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR RATES.

SO SOME CITIES JUST DO A FLAT RATE.

SO THEY MIGHT SAY ALL RESIDENTIAL PAYS $5.

SO IT, IT, IT, EVERY CITY DOES IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

UH, THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE HOW OUR CITY DOES IT NOW.

AND THEN PART OF THEIR FIVE YEAR EVALUATION IS LOOKING AT THIS AND COMING BACK WITH SUGGESTIONS.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN IT SAYS EPA THAT THE, THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN IT, SO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

THANK YOU NOREEN.

ITEM 17.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER FREEZE IN NICKELS.

YEP.

UM, OKAY.

FOR FIRE STATION 11, WATER WASTE WATER LINE DESIGN.

UM, DO WE NOT HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE FOR FIRE STATION 11 YET? NO, THEY HADN'T EVEN BUILT IT YET.

BRINGING SPAN A NEW FIRE STATION? YES.

THIS WAS TO BRING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER TO THE FIRE STATION UHHUH.

SO PART OF THAT, THEY HAD TO DO A MODIFICATION OF THE DESIGN TO GET IT THERE.

SO THIS IS, THEY WERE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT AND THEY WERE ALREADY DOING THE DESIGN, BUT THERE WAS A MODIFICATION THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE BEFORE BIDOW.

AND THIS IS TO, UM, UH, GIVE THE CONSULTANT MONEY BACK FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO THE $101,000, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ACTUAL LINE PER SE? NO, IT'S FOR, NO, THIS IS AN ENGINEERING, JUST, JUST $101,000.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE FIRE STATION.

IT WAS BUNDLED WITH THE, UH, 24 INCH WATER LINE THAT'S ALSO GOING FROM DAVIS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PRAIRIE RIDGE TO ALSO SUPPLY WATER TO A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSES AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE.

SO IT WAS A BIGGER PROJECT.

UH, THE FIRE STATION WAS A PIECE OF THE BUNDLE.

SO IT WAS FOR TWO THINGS.

PLUS THEY HAD TO DESIGN, UH, A FEW OTHER PIECES WHERE IT GOES INTO THE METER.

DOWN BY PRAIRIE RIDGE.

BY PRAIRIE RIDGE.

OKAY.

WHEN DO WE THINK THIS, UM, WATER LINE WOULD BE PUT IN? IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

UM, AND IT SHOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED BY THE END OF SUMMER AND FULLY COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO THEY'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE WATER, THE FIRE STATION ELEVEN'S ALREADY IN, SO THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR WATER LINE.

OKAY, GREAT.

AS LONG AS WE GOT EVERYTHING FOR FIRE STATION LEVEL, THAT'S, WE'LL MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

YES, THEY DO.

THANK YOU.

ITEM 20.

THANK YOU.

WHO IS HP ECOLOGICAL SERVICES? L-L-C-D-B-A,

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HP ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND WA 4 21 WEST CHURCH STREET.

GOOD EVENING.

HAROLD? CINDY MENDEZ, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

SO HP ENVIRON VISION IS THE CITY'S CONTRACTOR TO WORK ON CITY PROJECTS OKAY.

FOR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT.

OKAY.

BUT WHAT'S LOCATED AT 4 21 WEST CHURCH STREET? THIS IS, UM, DOWNTOWN, RIGHT UP THE STREET HERE.

IT USED TO BE CALLED THE, UH, WILLIE WILLIAMS BUILDING.

IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT WE WILL BE ABATING AND THEN DEMOING.

WHICH BUILDING IS THAT? RIGHT NOW? WHAT IS, WHAT'S THERE? WAS THAT BY THE OLD BAPTIST CHURCH? IS THAT BY THE, THE SCHOOL, THE METHODIST CHURCH.

WHAT, WHAT'S RIGHT? IT'S ON CHURCH STREET.

JUST, JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTION IT IS.

JUST WEST OF THE CALVARY CHURCH BUILDING, KIND OF ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CALVARY SCHOOL BUILDING THE U-SHAPE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT OVER THERE.

RIGHT.

IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHILDREN'S BUILDING.

IS THIS ANY PART OF CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH? IT WAS NOT PART OF CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

IT WAS A RETAIL BUILDING.

OKAY.

WHERE'S THIS, UH, $101,000 COMING FROM TO DO THIS? WELL, THE FUNDING IS, UH, GOING TO BE THROUGH, UH, TIFS.

AND EXPLAIN THAT, PLEASE.

WELL, IT'S FUNDING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

IT'S IN ITS OWN FUND THAT'S GENERATED FROM A TIF THAT YOU DRAW A BIG CIRCLE AROUND A LOT OF AREAS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AREA PAYS A TAX INTO THE TIF, NOT TO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO WE FUND THINGS INSIDE THAT TIF OUT OF THE TIF.

OKAY.

AND WHAT WILL BE LOCATED AT 4 21 CHURCH WHEN THIS, THIS BUILDING IS TORN DOWN? WE DON'T KNOW YET.

CORRECT.

OR DO WE WE DO.

WHAT IS GONNA BE THERE THAT BE PART OF THE LANDING? IS THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE ATTACHING TO THE CALVARY LAND? OH, YES.

THAT'S PART OF THE LAND.

THAT'LL BE PART OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX WE'RE DOING AFTER WE TEAR DOWN CALVARY.

SO WILL THAT BE APARTMENTS, CONDOMINIUMS? WHAT, WHAT WILL IT BE ? IT COULD VERY WELL BE THE A APART PART OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR IT COULD BE A PART OF THIS TOWN HOMES THAT ARE PART OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY LAID IT OUT YET.

WE HAVEN'T LAID IT OUT ON THE GROUND AS OF YET.

OKAY.

KIND OF A ROUGH IDEA IN TERMS OF NEXT YEAR, TWO YEARS, 18 MONTHS.

UH, PROBABLY BY MID NEXT YEAR WE'LL KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

OH, WE MAY, WE'LL, IT WON'T BE, IT WON'T BE THERE, BUT WE'LL KNOW WHAT IT'LL BE.

IT'LL BE, WE'LL KNOW WHAT IT'LL BE.

WE'LL HAVE FINAL PLANS BY MID NEXT YEAR.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL PAY PROPERTY TAX TO THE CITY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

UM, YEP.

21.

OKAY.

THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, $30,000 9,000 TO DALLAS COUNTY, 1500 TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT LEAVES US 19,000.

WHY ARE WE DIVIDING THIS MONEY UP WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS? DANIEL SES, YOUR POLICE CHIEF? UH, DALLAS COUNTY IS THE, UH, ENTITY THAT ADMINISTERS THE ALLOCATION OF THE GRANTS.

SO, UH, JAG, DOJ SENDS THE MONEY TO THE COUNTY, THEN THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE DIVVYING OF THE FUNDS.

OKAY.

UM, AS A TAXPAYER IN A, IN A MINORITY MAJORITY CITY, I'M VERY LEERY OF BLEACH BLONDE PAM BONDE, OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HER SIDEKICK CHRISTIE? NO.

IN OTHER WORDS, IS THIS FUND GONNA BE ALLOWED TO COME UP HERE AND PULL PEOPLE OFF THE STREET 'CAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN? I'M NOT MAD AT YOU, BUT I HAVE NO TRUST IN BLEACH BOMB PAN BONDI OR ATTORNEY GENERAL? SO, UH, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLEACH BLONDE PAM BONDI.

OKAY.

SHE'S DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

THIS IS FOR ACTUALLY PUTTING, UH, COMPUTERS AND SQUAD CARS.

SO, OKAY.

I, I'D BE SKEPTICAL THAT SHE'S THAT DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN OUR, OUR, UH, OPERATIONS.

OH, WELL THE SOUTH AFRICAN NAZI TELLS HER WHAT? HAROLD.

HAROLD, COME ON .

NO, THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO LET US KNOW.

ADAM.

24.

THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING FOR ADAM 24.

OKAY.

CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

THIS $323,000,

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ALL OF THIS MONEY TO TEAR DOWN CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM? AND WHAT WAS CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH SOLD FOR? WHAT DID THEY PAY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE TO NO LONGER HAVE THAT CHURCH NEXT DOOR? NO, WE, WE PAID THEM.

THEY DIDN'T PAY US.

WE BOUGHT THE LAND.

WHAT DID, WHAT DID WE PAY THEM? OH, DO Y'ALL REMEMBER MAYORS APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION.

$5 MILLION AROUND, GIVE OR TAKE.

SO WE PAID THAT CHURCH.

$5 MILLION? YES, SIR.

VOTED ON IT IN AN OPEN MEETING YEARS AGO.

NOW LET'S STICK TO THIS ITEM.

WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION ON THIS ITEM, HAROLD? WELL THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION.

$5 MILLION OUT OF THAT, THIS $323,000 FOR THIS, UM, TAKING DOWN THIS JR'S, DEMOLITION AND EXCAVATING.

WHEN IS THIS GOING TO OCCUR? I'M SORRY.

THE TIMING WILL BE AFTER THE ASBESTOS REMEDIATION.

SO WE ARE STARTING RIGHT NOW FOR THE ASBESTOS REMEDIATION IN MAY.

SO IT'LL START IN MAY? NO, THE DEMOLITION WILL AFTER ASBESTOS.

DEMOLITION AFTER MAY.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT JR IS DEMOLITION AND EXCAVATING IF CHRISTIE NOAM COMES DOWN HERE WHEN WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION WORK GOING ON.

ADAM 26.

HAROLD.

I KNOW MAYOR, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LISTEN.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE US ANSWERS, MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WE ARE GONNA CHALLENGE REPUBLICANS.

26.

CHERYL, HOW MUCH REAL PROPERTY ARE WE GETTING AT FOUR 30 SOUTHWEST THIRD STREET.

HELLO? HEY THERE.

PATRICIA REDFERN? YES, PLEASE.

SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING DIRECTOR.

ABOUT A HALF AN ACRE.

ONE HALF ACRE.

OKAY, GOOD.

ADAM? 27.

HAROLD, JUST ONE QUICK SECOND.

MAYOR.

OH, I THOUGHT TIMES YOU'VE GOT YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED.

WELL, NOT QUITE YET.

IS THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, IS IT GONNA REMAIN THERE AFTER THAT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN MCKINNEY IS CLOSING DOWN.

IS THIS I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE MCKINNEY CHURCH IS DOING.

WHAT'S LOCATED AT THIS SITE THAT WE'RE BUYING? UH, WE'RE, UH, A GARDEN.

WE'RE GIVING.

OKAY.

COMMUNITY GARDEN.

WE'RE RECEIVING COMMUNITY GARDEN.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

SO, AND WHO BENEFITS FROM THE COMMUNITY GARDEN? OH, THE COMMUNITY LIVE AROUND IT.

MM-HMM .

GREAT.

LOW INCOME.

SINCE WE'RE CUTTING BACK ON MEALS ON WHEELS, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GROW FOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ITEM 27.

THANK YOU.

WHY ARE WE RESTRICTING FISHING AT EPIC CENTRAL? I UNDERSTAND BOATING, SWIMMING, BATHING, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE GUY LAST LABOR DAY WEEKEND JUMPED IN THERE AND DROWNED.

BUT FISHING, IF, ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO FISH? WE'LL GIVE, GOT YOU AN ANSWER RIGHT HERE.

OH, OKAY.

WE ARE RESTRICTING FISHING BECAUSE IT CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE.

THERE IS, UM, IT'S ONLY IN THE EUV POND.

AND THE EUV POND HAS THE EUV WATER SHOW AND IT HAS OTHER EQUIPMENT WHICH TENDS TO CREATE AN ISSUE FOR FISHERMEN AND CAUSE LURES AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET HUNG.

SURE.

AND SO THIS AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO CLARIFY THAT THE DIRECTOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DESIGNATE AS NO FISHING IN CERTAIN AREAS.

OKAY.

AND WILL YOU HAVE THAT MARKED OFF? I CAN UNDERSTAND BY THE EPIC WHERE IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE OFF THE GROUND AND THAT'S BASICALLY LINE WITH ROCKS ANYWAY, ISN'T IT? SO, SO THIS IS PRIMARILY TO CLARIFY WHAT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE LAW.

AND SO IT IS ALREADY POSTED FOR NO FISHING OUT THERE AND ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE WILL BE ADDED.

OKAY.

MY QUESTION IS ON THE FAR WEST SIDE AND THE NORTHWEST SIDE, CAN PEOPLE FISH FROM THERE ON THAT PART OF THE BANK? THERE ARE MULTIPLE PONDS IN EPIC CENTRAL THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT HOUSES ELUVIA AND NO FISHING WILL BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE WITHIN THAT POND.

SO THE OTHER PONDS, THEY CAN FISH AT THE ONES IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION ON THAT SIDE.

THEY CAN STILL FISH AT THE ONES WAY OVER BY PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES.

THEY CAN STILL FISH AT, AS SHE SAID, THIS IS THE ELUVIA POND.

BUT THIS RESTRICTS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE WHERE PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS OR WALKERS CAN GO TO.

AND I'M GONNA BE IN A WALKER FOR QUITE A WHILE AFTER JUNE 5TH TOOK MY DAD OUT THERE IN 21.

CAROL, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

'CAUSE WE'RE REALLY ATTENTIVE TO MAKING SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE.

SO WHERE ARE WE OUT LINE ON ACCESSIBILITY? THERE IS NOWHERE TO WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW FOR SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR A WALKER AT THIS PART OF THE PARK.

ALL THE OTHER PONDS.

IT'S JUST DIRT BANK.

THERE'S NO PLACE TO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE REQUIRED ON DIRT PONDS TO, UH, TO PROVIDE A WAY FOR WE'LL, WE'LL STUDY THAT.

UH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THAT WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT

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AS OUR OWN PARKS DIRECTOR.

SO WE'LL ASK RAY TO INVESTIGATE THAT.

AND I ASSURE YOU, IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT, WE'RE GONNA DO IT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESSIBILITY WHERE REQUIRED OR WILL RESTRICT ACCESSIBILITY.

BUT THE KIDS FROM PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES THAT ARE WHEELCHAIR BAND, I UNDERSTAND, HAROLD.

WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

WE'LL CHECK THE LAW AND WE OWE YOU AN ANSWER.

I BEEN WAITING FOR AN ANSWER FOR A COUPLE YEARS ABOUT SOME FISHING PIERS OUT THERE.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, THE POINT THERE, WERE THERE, ARE THERE SIGNAGES OUT THERE NOW? ARE WE GONNA, WHAT SHE SAID WAS, IT'S ALREADY PART OF THE ORDINANCE AND THIS ALLOWS OUR PARK DIRECTOR TO ADD SIGNAGE.

OKAY.

SO I, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA FISH ON THAT BRIDGE GOING OVER THERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS GONNA BE ADDED AND WHETHER THAT BRIDGE WILL BE PART OF IT OR WHICH BRIDGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING, MAYOR, WHERE THAT BRIDGE GOES RIGHT ACROSS BACK OVER TO EPIC AND EPIC WATERS.

PEOPLE FISH OFF OF THERE.

LITTLE KIDS ARE OUT THERE FISHING, SO I DON'T WANNA SEE A KID BE TOLD THEY CAN'T FISH FOR PERCH RIGHT OFF THAT LITTLE BRIDGE AND ON THAT LITTLE DIRT PART OVER THERE.

SO IT'S SO FAR AWAY FROM THE LIGHTS.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

I I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT IT THERE, BUT I, THAT'S ALL I WANT.

I THINK IT'S JUST FOR CLARITY.

IT'S JUST AROUND WHERE THE LIGHT SHOW IS.

IF YOU, IF YOU HEARD WHAT SHE SAID, IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE THAT THAT'S ASK AND ANSWERED.

JUST FOR CLARITY.

YEAH, ASK FOR, ASK AND ANSWERED.

WE, I, I THINK WE ANSWERED THIS.

SHE WAS VERY PLAIN AND WE AGREE WITH YOU, HAROLD.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT LITTLE KIDS CAN FISH ON THAT OTHER PART.

WE'RE GONNA LET LITTLE KIDS FISH WHERE WE THINK IT'S SAFE TO FISH.

THAT'S ALL I'M WANTING TO KNOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU SIR.

30 HAROLD, SETTING THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 60 TO 65, WHICH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF, BUT HOW MANY MILES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE WHERE THIS SPEED LIMIT WILL BE REDUCED.

HI, CAROL THREES, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY TXDOT DID THE FULL STUDY.

THEY, UH, THEY RAN THE WHOLE CORRIDOR AND THEY'RE ASKING, OH, THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

I DID HAVE THAT ATTACHMENT.

THEY'RE ASKING ALL THREE CITIES.

SO THERE'S A PIECE IN MANSFIELD, THERE'S A PIECE IN GRAND PRAIRIE UHHUH, AND THERE'S A PIECE IN MIDLOTHIAN AND ALL THREE CITIES HAVE TO PASS ORDINANCES.

OKAY.

AND THEN TEXDOT WILL COME BACK AND CHANGE ALL THE SIGNS AND IT'S FROM 65 TO 60 PER THEIR STUDY.

SO WE HAVE THIS SEGMENT HERE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS LESS THAN A MILE.

UH, YEAH, JUST UNDER A MILE.

SO JUST LESS THAN A MILE OF THAT'S IN THE CITY OF IT IS IN OUR CITY, YES.

THAT WE NEEDED TO WORK ON.

SO, UM, WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR STRIP BATH.

OF COURSE THEY GIVE IT TO YOU IN, YOU KNOW, SURE.

THREE DISCIP LITTLE PLACES.

BUT, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY PIECE THAT'S IN OUR CITY.

ONCE THEY RECEIVE ALL THREE ORDINANCES, TXDOT WILL FOLLOW THROUGH AND CHANGE THE SIGNS.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE IN EACH OF THOSE SEGMENTS WOULD BE EACH OF THE THREE CITIES.

EACH OF THE THREE CITIES WILL DIVIDE THAT UP.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

YEAH.

'CAUSE 65 MEANS 95 AND 60 MEANS 90.

SO AT AT LEAST IT'S A GOOD ATTEMPT TO DO SOMETHING.

SO I DIDN'T, SO ALL THIS CAME FROM TEXT STOP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU HAROLD.

MAYOR PROTE, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND REMEMBER WE'RE TABLING ONE OF YES SIR.

BUT THAT WAS SO LONG AGO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AS MAYOR SAID, WE HAD ALREADY REVIEWED THIS AT OUR AGENDA REVIEW AND AT THAT TIME, UH, WE AGREED THAT ITEM 13 WAS TO BE TABLED TO A LATER DATE.

ALSO, THERE WAS AN ADDITION TO ITEM NUMBER 25, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THIS IS THE FIRST READING AND THEN, UM, THE SECOND READING WILL BE JUNE 17.

SO THAT WOULD BE A ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE FOR THAT ITEM 25.

AND WITH THAT MAYOR, I WOULD, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN THROUGH 12, TABLE NUMBER 13 TO A LATER DATE.

ITEMS 14 THROUGH 24 WITH ADDITION ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE TO ITEM NUMBER 25.

THEN, UH, ITEMS 26 THROUGH 30 APPROVAL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION

[31. STP-24-08-0035 - Site Plan - TownePlace Suites (City Council District 4). Site Plan for a four-story extended stay hotel on 2.363 acres. Lot 1, Block B, Prairie Waters - Southgate Development Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-352, located within the SH-360 Corridor Overlay District and addressed as 3659 Prairie Waters Dr (On April 14, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 9-0)]

CARRIES ITEM 31.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM 31 IS A SITE PLAN FOR TOWN PLACE SUITES.

IT'S LOCATED AT 36 59 PRAIRIE WATERS DRIVE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PD 3 52 AND IT'S ABOUT 2.3 ACRES.

UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR A HOTEL.

ON THE SCREEN IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SURROUNDING

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AREA.

YOU CAN SEE, AND THE STARS INDICATE, UH, SITE PLANS FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS, JEFFERSON, AT LLOYD PARK, PHASE ONE AND TWO, WHICH ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE HAVEN AT LLOYD PARK, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED.

UH, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN.

AGAIN, IT'S A HOTEL, IT'S AN EXTENDED STAY, UH, FOUR STORIES AND 113 ROOMS. UM, THE TABLE SUMMARIZES OUR DENSITY DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE MEETING THOSE WITH ONE EXCEPTION, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 50 FEET.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING 52 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE SOME ARTICULATION.

UH, ON THE SCREEN IS OUR, THEIR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.

IT GENERALLY COMPLIES WITH OUR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR TWO ITEMS. THESE ARE THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

UH, THERE'S A MIX OF MATERIALS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COLORS OF BRICK AND STONE.

AS PART OF OUR REVIEW FOR HOTELS, WE LOOK AT HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE CLASSIFICATION ALLOWANCES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOTELS.

UH, THERE ARE NO HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE.

UM, SO THIS WOULD BRING THE, UH, IF APPROVED, UH, THE MIDSCALE UPPER MIDSCALE, UH, TO ONE AND THE EXTENDED STAY TO ONE WITHIN THAT, THAT AREA.

UH, AS PART OF THE HOTEL REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AMENITIES IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

TIER ONE AMENITIES INCLUDE SEVEN ITEMS, ITEMS LIKE WIFI, TRASH AND LINEN SERVICE, FITNESS CENTER.

UH, AND ADDITIONALLY A POOL.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A POOL, UH, WITH A 385 SQUARE FOOT, UH, AND AN AREA OF 1,900 SQUARE FOOT DOCK SURROUNDING THAT.

UH, THE TWO, UH, THE TIER TWO AMENITIES INCLUDE TWO ITEMS, A COMMON OUTDOOR AREA, AND THEN A ONE MEAL PER DAY.

UM, ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEIR, UM, OUTDOOR COMMON AREAS.

THEY'VE GOT A MINI GOLF AREA AND THEN, UH, PICKLEBALL QUARTZ.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AMENITIES UNDER OUR APPENDIX F CHECKLIST, WHICH THEY ARE PROVIDING.

UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING A FEW VARIANCES.

THE FIRST IS THE MAX HEIGHT.

AGAIN, THEY'RE PROPOSING 52 F UH, FEET, UH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE MAX HEIGHT OF 50.

JUST TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THAT ARTICULATION SHOWN ON THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES.

UM, AND, UM, ONE OF OUR CONDITIONS IS THEY PROVIDE THOSE REQUIRED TREES.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS TO THE AREA OF THE POOL SURFACE.

UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, 385 WHEN 3000 IS REQUIRED.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT REQUEST ACROSS HOTELS.

ON APRIL 14TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO WITH, UH, SOME CONDITIONS.

UH, ONE ANY E HAS FINISHES SHALL BE PLACED, REPLACED WITH STUCCO, UH, TO MEET THE APPENDIX F REQUIREMENTS.

ALL THE TREES SHALL BE PROVIDED ON SITE OUTSIDE OF ANY UTILITY EASEMENTS.

AND THEN OPERATION SHALL COMPLY WITH SECTION 28 10 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS THIS TIME.

SO THE, UH, P AND Z ISN'T SUGGESTING WE ALLOW THEM TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES.

CORRECT.

THANKS.

UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ AND I DO HAVE A SPEAKER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR SAVANNAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, FIRST OF ALL, ALL THIS IS A SITE PLAN, CORRECT? SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM OUR LAST CASE LAST MONTH.

CAN WE JUST POINT, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE AUDIENCE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THE HOTEL USE IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AT THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS WHY THERE BEFORE YOU WITH JUST A, A SITE PLAN INSTEAD OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

AND SO I CAN KIND OF BE THE BAD GUY HERE.

I WANT TO TELL THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE AT HOME, SINCE IT'S A SITE PLAN, WE CAN'T DENY IT AS EASILY AS WE COULD DENY THE ONE PREVIOUSLY.

THAT WAS A ZONING CHANGE.

SITE PLANS ARE HERE AND WE CAN LEGALLY DENY IF THEY DON'T MEET EVERY, IF THEY COME IN WITH ANY VARIANCES.

BUT USUALLY WE DON'T.

WE JUST NEGOTIATE THE VARIANCES.

BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HOTEL MOTEL THAT WE DENIED A FEW WEEKS AGO VERSUS THIS ONE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

NO, CORRECT.

MAYOR.

AND, AND SO IN OTHER WORDS, I MEAN JUST TO ADD TO THAT SAME HOTEL CAME IN, WHETHER IT BE MOTEL SIX OR WHATEVER BRAND HOTEL, THEY COULD JUST BUILD, BE BUILT AND WITHOUT NO VARIANCES AND JUST BE APPROVED JUST LIKE THAT, CORRECT? IF IF ALLOWED BY RIDE AT THAT LOCATION? CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YES SIR.

UM, SECOND POINT I WANNA BRING UP, UM, GIVEN THIS AREA, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO CREATE A JOGGING WALKING TRAIL TO WALK ALONG THEIR PROPERTIES ON THOSE APARTMENTS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE VERY FAR SOUTH APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE START THE WALKING TRAIL

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AND CONNECT ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO THE COMMERCIAL PART WHERE LING'S AT MM-HMM .

UM, SO ONE THING WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT'S AWARE OF THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WALKING SHOW AND THAT JO AND SHOW ALONG THE BACK WAY TO MAKE SURE IT JUST DOESN'T DEAD END.

UM, I KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF P AND C, BUT DEFINITELY IT'S PROBABLY A CONDITION.

CAN WE ADD THAT CONDITION THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT JOGGING TRAIL GETS BUILT AS, AS IN HIDDEN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, REGARDING THE POOL, UM, EARLIER, I, I DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE.

SO ONE THING I DID TELL THE APPLICANT WE WERE GONNA VERIFY OUR POOLS.

THE, THE POOL SIZE THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED.

IT SEEMS KIND OF SMALL.

SO I ASKED STAFF TO COMPARE THE POOLS THAT WE HAD THAT THE CITY OWNS.

AND DO WE HAVE THOSE MEASUREMENTS OF THOSE POOLS? YES.

UM, IN OUR PRIOR CONVERSATION YOU MENTIONED STAYBRIDGE, THEY NOTED STAYBRIDGE, UH, OFF OF LAKERIDGE AND I 20 AT POOL SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 700 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THE POOL AT THE EPIC HILTON IS ABOUT 900 SQUARE FEET.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK HERE WITH THE APPLICANT IS HERE THAT WE THINK THE POOL SIDE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE, MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE POOLS THAT WE'RE OPERATING THOSE STANDARDS.

'CAUSE IT, IT MAKES THE OVERALL SENSE FOR THAT MARKET IS, UM, SO DEFINITELY IT'S A, SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT COULD, COULD AGREE TO.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.

MS. WARE, WHAT IS SECTION 28 10? IT IS PART OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT REFERENCES EXTENDED STAY.

UM, THERE ARE SPECIFIC ALLOWANCES FOR STAYS THAT EXTEND BEYOND 30 DAYS.

UM, BUT IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THE STATE CANNOT EXTEND BEYOND 30 DAYS.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT SAYS ESSENTIALLY.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU GOOD? OKAY.

THE SPEAKER MAYOR I QUESTION OH, SORRY.

I SEE IT NOW.

GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE.

THANK YOU.

YES.

DVANTAGE.

I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT I WAS READING THIS CORRECTLY.

OUR, UM, UDC REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A POOL THAT IS 3000 SQUARE FEET OF WATER SURFACE.

AND THEY WERE PROPOSING 385 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT.

10% OF WHAT WE WERE REQUIRING.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DEV SUDI.

SO THE POOL IS A BIG DEAL.

I MEAN, IT'S EASY.

THE UDC REQUIRES IT.

THAT'S JUST, BUT I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

DEV 38 21 LAWRENCE PLACE ROAD, DENTON, TEXAS.

I'M, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU MAY HAVE.

UH, FOR SURE.

UH, WE'RE NOT, I DOUBT WE'LL APPROVE THE REDUCTION OF TREES, BUT THAT'S SIMPLE.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA YEAH, SO, SO THERE'S A VARIANCE THAT WE, WE, WE FIXED THE, THE STREET TREES.

I THINK THERE'S A, A VARIANCE FOR THE STREET TREES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO BACK TO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GRANT EITHER VARIANCE.

YES.

SO, SO THAT, THAT'S ALREADY FIXED.

OKAY.

WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED ANY TREE VARIANCES.

PARKING LOT.

PARKING LOT TREES.

WE, WE'VE COVERED EVERYWHERE.

IF, IF WE CUT THE PARK, IF WE, IF VARIANCE ISN'T GRANTED, WE'LL CUT THE ROOM COUNT DOWN TO 107 ROOMS, TAKE AWAY THOSE PARKING SPACES.

AND WHY WOULD REQUIRING YOU TO BUILD PLANT TWO MORE TREES? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON AN ISLAND, A PARKING LOT ISLAND IS WHAT I THINK WHAT IT IS.

CORRECT.

THEY, THEY, I THINK THEY'RE REPURPOSE.

SO WE, WE WOULD BE TAKING AWAY PARKING SPACES.

I'M SORRY, WHAT? I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REPURPOSE THE PLACING OF THE TREES RIGHT FROM THE PARKING LOT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE THEY PLANT 'EM.

JUST PLANT 'EM.

OH.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT'S, BUT THAT I'M, I'M, I'M NOT THE WHOLE COUNCIL.

YEAH.

UH, BUT WE JUST NEED TREES, SO.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WHAT DO YOU THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ? YEAH.

THAT, THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY JUST MEET THE CRITERIA WITH REGARD TO PLANTING THE NUMBER OF TREES REQUIRED.

THAT'S EASY.

WHETHER THEY'RE LOCATED ANYWHERE ON THE SITE, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST ON THE APPENDIX.

IF I HAD STATED ON ISLANDS.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YES, SIR.

AND THAT GETS THE NUMBER OF TREES TO JUST GET, TO MOVE THEM AROUND PER Y'ALL WORK WITH HIM? YES.

YOU WANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT THE POOL? FOR SURE.

SURE.

WE'VE DONE OUR RESEARCH.

I MEAN, WE SEE THAT OUR POOLS ARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE AMOUNT.

I MEAN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE MOVING UP TO ABOUT 900,000 FEET? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

JUST, JUST THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD DONE.

OH, 900 OR A THOUSAND? NO, WE, WE JUST, WE WE WANTED

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TO, WE WANTED THAT VARIANCE SO WE COULD OFFER OTHER AMENITIES.

UNDERSTAND.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH, JOHN? I WOULD SAY A THOUSAND.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN ARE YOU COMFORTABLE US REMOVING MAYBE THE COURTS IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE ROOM? SO WE'RE, WE WERE OFFERING THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND THE, THE, THE MINI PUTT PUTT IN AS IN TO OFFSET MORE AMENITIES TO, TO THE GUEST.

UM, AND REDUCE THE POOL SIZE A LITTLE BIT ALONG WITH THE, UH, WELL THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE POOL SIZE IS PER ORDINANCE.

UH, BUT YOU HAVE A POINT, THE PICKLEBALL AND THE MINIATURE GOLF ISN'T PER ORDINANCE, IS IT? NO.

NO.

UH, NOW COUNCIL MEMBER CLIPS WOULD SAY, DO WHAT YOU WANT TO WITH THE MINIATURE GOLF, BUT YOU GOTTA PUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN .

UH, BUT THAT'S A, YEAH, I DON'T CARE, JOHN.

I MEAN, IT'S, WE'RE HORSE TRADING, BUT I THINK THE POOL SIZE NEEDS TO BE THE POOL SIZE.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, HOWEVER YOU MAKE IT WORK.

I WOULD, I WOULD SAY A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT'S DUAL.

AND IF THAT LETS YOU REMOVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE PITCHING IN LIKE THE MINIATURE GOLF AND STAFF'S OKAY WITH IT, WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT, JOHN? OR OUTDOOR? YOU MENTIONED OUTDOOR FRYER, PIT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE IT WORK ON, ON THAT .

SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

WELL, WE CAN MAKE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET WORK.

IT'S JUST, IT, IT'LL CUT AWAY FROM THE MINIATURE GONNA TRADE OFF SOMETHING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

AND THEN ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING SURE THAT YOU WORK WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING THE WALK WALKING TRAIL? SO FROM STAFF CURRENTLY, WE WERE UNAWARE OF ANY WALKING TRAILS WE MENTIONED.

UM, IF THERE IS ANY WALKING TRAIL, I THINK IN THE, BETWEEN THE, THE LOT THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THE WATER TOWER THAT'S THERE, I THINK THAT'S OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER THAT'S BEHIND US.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, RASHAD? WE PUT IN, IF WE CONNECT THROUGH THERE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

JUST SO AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL THAT HE JUST MENTIONED, IT'S TO THE NORTH OF THEM, WELL ACTUALLY WEST.

SO CAN JOHN PUT THAT IN HIS MOTION AND Y'ALL CAN WORK OUT THE DETAIL THAT YOU, THEY PROVIDED A YES.

CONNECTION.

YES.

AND THAT JOHN, 'CAUSE WE DO NEED THAT TRAIL ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SOMETHING DESIGNED LIKE THERE'S A DRAWING FOR IT? THERE'S A DRAWING FOR IT, YES.

OKAY.

COULD, COULD STAFF PROVIDE THAT TO US SO WE COULD, WE COULD SEND IT OVER, YEAH.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ THIS NAME INTO THE RECORD AND THEN YOU CAN FINISH UP WITH THEM.

OKAY.

THEN YOU'LL BE PROBABLY READY FOR A MOTION.

WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL, UM, PERSON WHO SIGNED UP WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD THEIR SUPPORT.

UM, ABDUL ABDULRAHMAN.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, DEPUTY MAYOR, THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU, JOHN.

YEAH.

NO, THIS QUESTION IS I GUESS MORE FOR STAFF.

UM, IF WE HAVE IT IN OUR, IN OUR CODE THAT WE'RE REQUIRING HOTELS TO HAVE POOLS THAT ARE 3000 SQUARE FEET OF WATER SURFACE.

BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL POOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.

SHOULD WE LOOK AT AMENDING THIS IN THE FUTURE? I AGREE.

'CAUSE OURS, ISN ISN'T EVEN THAT SIZE.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LIKE.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE LOOK AT IT AMENDING IT.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN ON THE LIST WE GOT.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

QUITE A FEW AMENDMENTS WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

GOT A LOT OF THINGS ON YOUR LIST.

YES.

YES.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS? ARE YOU, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH AND READY TO MAKE A MOTION? YES.

JUST ONE LAST THING WITH THE WALKING TRAIL, JUST AS YOU GET THAT PLAN, JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ANY LIGHTING ON YOUR SIDE TO MAKE SURE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIGHTS STUFF AROUND.

YES.

SO WE'LL PROVIDE A LIGHTING PLAN THAT SHOWS THE CANDLE PER FOOT LIGHTING ALONG THAT TRAIL.

THAT WAY THERE'S, I I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACTLY.

I THINK IT'S 0.7 OR 0.8 OR WHATEVER THE POINT.

YEAH, THAT'S IF IT'S ON YOUR SIDE.

IF IT'S ON THE APARTMENT SIDE, THEN DEFINITELY, UM, PROBABLY THEY COULD ADDRESS SAID AS WELL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST TAKE CARE OF YOUR SIDE.

AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE, I HAD, UH, FOR STAFF IS THE FENCING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED.

RIGHT.

UM, CURRENTLY STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO PUT, UH, MASONRY FENCE ALONG THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND POSSIBLY, UH, WR UH, MASONRY FENCE ALONG WHAT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE.

I, I, AS ME AND MR. LOPEZ HAS MENTIONED, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT FLUID AS POSSIBLE AND NOT HAVE A SOLID MASONRY SEVEN FOOT STRUCTURE IN BETWEEN.

BUT THAT'S, THAT PROBABLY WOULD LOOK BAD, BUT WHATEVER YOU YEAH.

AND, AND IT'S, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT STAFF, 'CAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THEY DO A MASONRY WALL AND THEN THE APARTMENTS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEM, ON THEIR SIDE.

DO WR IRON OR MASON WALL.

THEN TRY AND GET THERE AND KEEP UP WITH THE LANDSCAPE.

AND SO I JUST DON'T KNOW.

STAFF, DID WE FIND OUT WHAT WAS THE FENCING TYPE? ANYTHING? STAFF.

SO A HOTEL WOULD REQUIRE THE MASONRY WALL AS HE MENTIONED.

THERE IS, UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS COLUMNS WITH THE ROD IRON.

Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO RE ALLOW FOR

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A VARIANCE FROM THAT REQUIREMENT, THE MASONRY WALL REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW THEM TO JUST USE THE, THE RIGHT ARM.

THE SAME THING.

RIGHT.

SO THEY WOULD MATCH.

MATCH OR JUST USE THE EXISTING FLEX.

THAT'S GONNA BE WHY, WHY I BUILD ANOTHER ONE IS THE, THE EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

YES.

YES.

WELL, JOHN, IF WE ALLOWED IT FOR THE APARTMENT.

YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE.

I MAKES UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

MAKES SENSE.

I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I THINK WE ALL ARE.

IT WAS THE REASON WHY IT WAS REQUIRED IS IT WAS REQUIRED PREVIOUSLY AT THE LOCATION NORTH OF HERE.

OKAY.

ABOUT 30.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST CONSTRUCT IT ON THE YEAH.

THE SIDE WHERE THE, THE NEW APARTMENTS ARE BEING BUILT.

THAT'S ALL.

I THINK THAT'S, AND TRY TO MATCH THE SAME BRICK.

I THINK THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.

IT JUST LOOKS MORE FLUID.

I, I AGREE.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? JUST HANG ON.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE YOU GET UP AGAIN.

SO THAT'S LETTING HIM KEEP THE EXISTING FENCE.

YES.

YOU READY JOHN? COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ? YES SIR.

I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

THIS IS ANOTHER CARD.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S NOT FOR THIS ITEM.

IS IT? FOR THIS ITEM? NO, IT'S NOT FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHTY.

THANK YOU SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND WORKING WITH THIS GOOD JOB AND ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT I THINK I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A SITE PLAN.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 31, UM, SCP 24 0 8 0 0 35 WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD FROM STAFF, UM, AND PZ AND PZ.

YEAH.

WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS, ONE THAT THE TREES BE ALLOCATED TO THE RIGHT NUMBER OF TREES, UM, AS PROVIDED NO MATTER WHERE IT'S AT WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THAT THE POOL BE ADJUSTED TO A MINIMUM OF A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT THE WALL THAT, UH, WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE APARTMENTS MATCH UP TO THE EXISTING ROD IRON WITH, WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE WALK AND TRAIL JO AND TRAIL THAT'S ADJACENT JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY, BE CONNECTING WALKING TRAIL TO LEAD TO THE, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND, UM, I THINK, AND THEN THAT STAFF, UM, THEY COULD WORK WITH STAFF TO COORDINATE ALL THESE FEATURES GOING FORWARD.

STAFF.

DOES THAT GET 'EM ALL? YOU THINK YOU, OKAY, GOOD FOR Y'ALL.

AND CLARIFICATION.

UH, COUNCIL LOPEZ, DID YOU MEAN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT UP A NEW FENCE WHERE THE ROD IRON ALREADY IS OR WOULD THEY JUST BE ABLE TO LEAVE THAT ONE THERE AND USE THAT? I THINK THE, THE ONE IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S THE OLDER APARTMENTS.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE NEW APARTMENT, WHICH IS JEFFERSON, I I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THEIR FENCE THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A FENCE WHERE THE FENCE IS ALREADY THERE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO ANSWER IT.

IS THAT A MOTION? THAT'S MY MOTION, YES SIR.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES ITEM

[32. SUP-25-02-0006 - Specific Use Permit - TruckSmart CDL Academy (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for a Vocational School (Auto)/Driving School at an office building on 3.05 acres. Lot 1, Block A, Carrier 360 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial (LI), within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 2080 N Hwy 360 (On April 14, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions by a vote of 9-0)]

32.

THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL SLASH DRIVING SCHOOL.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING.

OKAY.

ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

IT'S WITHIN OUR 300 OR 360 CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.

AND THE ADDRESS IS 2080 NORTH HIGHWAY 360.

UM, SO THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS, AGAIN IS FOR THE DRIVING SCHOOL.

UH, TRUCK SMART CDL ACADEMY, UH, PREPARE STUDENTS FOR OBTAINING THEIR COMMERCIALS.

DRIVER'S LICENSE, UH, THEIR PROPOSED OPERATIONS ARE 11:00 AM TO 5:30 PM SATURDAY OR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

AND THEN ON SATURDAY 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM UH, THE OPERATIONS THAT WILL BE, UH, PROPOSED AT THIS SITE WILL INCLUDE ENROLLING NEW STUDENTS EXPLAINING THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THAT CDL LICENSE, UH, NEW STUDENT ORIENTATION, UH, SCHEDULING TRAINING SESSIONS AND TESTING DAYS, AND THEN THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS.

UH, SO THEIR PROPOSED OPERATIONS FOR OUR FOUR IN CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION ONLY.

UH, SO THE APPLICANT LEASES A LOCATION IN ANOTHER CITY FOR TRUCK TRAILER STORAGE AND AN AREA TO MANEUVER EXERCISE PRACTICE.

UM, ON APRIL 14TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.

AND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE, UM, THE AUTHORIZED OPERATION SHALL BE LIMITED TO IN-CLASSROOM INSTRUCTIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AND DRIVING PRACTICE OR

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MANEUVERING EXERCISES.

AND ANY VEHICLES ARE PROHIBITED AT THIS LOCATION.

AND THEN THE PARKING OR STORAGE OF OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR SEMI-TRAILER TRUCKS ARE PROHIBITED AT THIS LOCATION.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MAYOR SHOTWELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, IS, HMM, THE, UM, THE ENCLOSED, UM, FLOOR PLAN DRAWING IS PRETTY BARE BONES.

UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT BEFORE A CO WOULD BE ISSUED THAT BUILDING INSPECTIONS WOULD GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A RESTROOM AND IT ALL WORKS.

THAT'S NONE OF THAT'S ON HERE? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM REMART IS HERE, UM, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORDED SUPPORT.

UM, I NEED A NAME.

CAN YOU USE YOUR NAME, SIR? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ABDUL RAMON.

THANK YOU.

WE JUST NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.

MM-HMM .

MAYOR PROTI? YES.

MAYOR.

UM, IS, SIR, ARE YOU, DID YOU SAY YOU'RE THE OWNER? YES.

WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP HERE AND LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, UH, AND WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD, THIS IS STRICTLY CLASSROOM ONLY.

CORRECT.

AND, UM, ARE YOU AN INSTRUCTOR FOR THE TRUCK DRIVERS? YES.

UM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOU ARE FROM THE METROPLEX GENERALLY GOING TO SCHOOL THERE? YES.

UM, I'M GETTING AROUND TO A POINT THAT I HOPE THAT YOU'LL INCLUDE IN YOUR, UM, EDUCATIONAL PROCESS OF THESE TRUCK DRIVERS.

I DO.

THE TRUCKS THAT YOU USE, DO THEY HAVE AN UPDATED GPS? UM, GPS IS AN EXTERNAL PART OF THE PROCESS THAT ONE CAN PURCHASE LIKE GARMIN, BUT IN INSTRUCTIONS, YES.

UM, WE ADVISE THEM OR IT'S PART OF THE INSTRUCTIONS WHAT TOOLS TO USE FOR NAVIGATIONAL WISE IN TERMS OF DRIVING IN INTO THE CITIES.

ALL RIGHTY.

WELL, JUST SOMETHING I HOPE YOU'LL INCLUDE IN YOUR EDUCATION AS, UM, THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH GPS AND WITH TRUCKERS WHO DRIVE FROM 360 TO 1 61 ON AVENUE K AND SUNNYVALE SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT.

AND WE HAVE, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS AND ALL MANY VIOLATIONS IN THAT AREA.

AND WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE WHO REALLY GET UP IN ARMS WHEN THEY SEE THAT AND WHEN THEY TEAR UP THE ROAD WHEN THEY TRY TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL REALLY FOCUS.

I I WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT, THAT YOU DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT ENFORCEMENT HERE WITH SOME FINE OFFICERS THAT WATCH THOSE AREAS AND THEY WILL, YOU MIGHT WARN THEM THAT THEY WILL GET FINES IF THEY, THERE'S VERY LOW TOLERANCE FOR, FOR THAT IN UH, THAT AREA.

UM, I SAY DISTRICT ONE, BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE THAT, AND THAT YOU WOULD REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.

AND CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES? MA'AM, I THINK YOU COVERED IT WELL.

WE VERY STRICT ON NO TRUCK THROUGHOUT VIOLATIONS.

OKAY.

WELL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND WE'LL MAKE EMPHASIS ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT YOU CAN BE SURE THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT TRUCK SMART.

WELL, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE JUST TRAINING THEM .

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU.

I JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN THE TRAINING.

GOOD TO GO.

I'M READY.

WE'RE READY? YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

WELL THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU IF IT PASSES.

THANK YOU.

UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 32 WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE STATED.

SECOND, WE HAVE MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEL BOSKY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

A OPPOSED NAY.

MOTION CARRIES

[Items 33 & 34]

ITEM 33.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 33 AND 34 ARE COMPANION ITEM.

SO I'LL PRESENT THEM TOGETHER.

AND THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM MIXED USE, UH, TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, THE LOCATION IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN AND IT'S ABOUT 14 ACRES.

UH, THE MAPS ON THE SCREEN SHOW THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE PROPOSED,

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UH, THIS CHANGE IS TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS A PD AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN.

AGAIN, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

I DO WANNA STATE THAT THE CURRENT ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 18 ALLOWS APARTMENTS OR MULTI-FAMILY BY RIGHT.

SO JUST PAUSE RIGHT THERE.

ANYTIME WE SEE MULTI-FAMILY, OUR BIGGEST QUESTION IS WHAT'S OUR AUTHORITY? AND YOU JUST STATED IT, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD IT IN THERE WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THE 33 IS JUST A FORMALITY FUTURE LAND USE MAPS OF I'VE SAID BEFORE CANNOT HELP OR PREVENT US FROM PASSING OR DENYING ANY ZONING PERIOD.

WHEN WHEN THE CURRENT ZONING IS IN PLACE.

YES.

WHEN THE CURRENT ZONING IS IN PLACE.

THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT.

SO CONTINUE WITH ADAM 34.

NOW DON'T YET.

UH, THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A SITE PLAN.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS THE HIGH LEVEL.

THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS CONFUSING STILL TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL, BUT THEN THEY CAN KIND OF TWEAK IT FOR THE SITE PLAN.

BUT THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT PLAN.

SO, UH, WE CAN KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACCOMMODATING, SEE WHAT VARIANCES THEY WANT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD IT.

SO, UH, CONTINUE ON.

THAT IS CORRECT.

MY QUESTION TO EDUCATE ME AS WELL.

NORMALLY IF THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD, WOULDN'T THEY JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE SITE PLAN PROCESS? IT DEPENDS IF IT'S STRAIGHT ZONING OR IF IT'S A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A CONCEPT PLAN.

IN THIS CASE, THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT HAVE THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, SO THIS REQUEST, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST TO SHOW US WHERE IN IT IT'S GONNA BE.

MM-HMM .

UH, THIS IS, THIS IS COMMON WITH CON WITH PDS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.

THERE WAS NO PLAN.

THEY THREW A BIG 60 ACRE DEVELOPMENT AND JUST CALLED IT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND LISTED WHAT COULD GO THERE.

UNDERSTOOD BY RIGHT.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT.

SO, AND I DON'T LIKE, WELL, IT'S IRRELEVANT.

WHAT ARE YOU? AND I LIKE, THIS IS THE RULES THAT WERE GOING BY TONIGHT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS FOLKS.

THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN BASED ON THE ORDINANCE AND THE LAWS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

WHY WE APPROVED ANOTHER SET OF APARTMENTS.

.

ALRIGHT, CONTINUE ON.

UM, SO THIS, THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN IS ON THE SCREEN AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT 14 ACRES.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING 300 UNITS AND EIGHT BU BUILDINGS.

UM, UH, ONE TO THREE BEDROOMS. UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON THE SCREEN IT'S LOCATE, UH, THE ENTRANCE IS OFF OF I 20.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, LOOKED AT THROUGH THIS REVIEW AND AND WE APPRECIATE IS THEY, UH, ORIENTED THIS BUILDING THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.

SO THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, THE, THE WINDOWS TO INDIVIDUAL UNITS AREN'T FACING THEM.

UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THANK YOU THINGS WE LOOKED AT.

UM, THEY ALSO INCLUDE, UH, DIFFERENT AMENITIES LIKE A CLUBHOUSE, POOL, DOG PARK, AND PICKLEBALL COURT.

UH, THEY ARE MEETING THOSE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME CONCEPTUAL BUILDING ELEVATIONS, WHICH AGAIN WILL BE REVIEWED FURTHER AT THE SITE PLAN AND THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

AND ON MARCH 24TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUE UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? LOPEZ? SAVANNAH, CAN YOU POINT TO WHERE THEIR ENTRANCE MIGHT BE AT? IT IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTH.

SO IT'S OFF THE HIGHWAY.

YES, SIR.

UH, IS THAT THE ONLY ENTRANCE OR IS THERE LIKE ANOTHER? IT IS.

THEY DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY, UM, ACCESS POINT THAT'LL TIE INTO THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS, WHICH IS WHERE THE CURSOR IS, UM, ON THE, THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.

OKAY.

ALL THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU.

WE OF COURSE MAY CALL YOU BACK, HAROLD, YOU CAN COME TALK ON 33 AND 34 AT THE SAME TIME.

'CAUSE THEY'RE SAME THING.

HAROLD WALLACE 5 3 8 LINLEY.

I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT YOU DENY ALL OF THIS UNTIL THE REPUBLICANS IN AUSTIN HAVE SIGNED THE BILL.

THAT APARTMENT COMPLEXES CANNOT BE TAKEN OFF THE TAX ROWS.

MAYOR JIM ROSS WAS ON CHANNEL 11 A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

HE'S UPSET ABOUT THESE APARTMENTS BEING TAKEN OFF THE TAX ROWS.

WHAT DO WE HAVE IN AN ORDINANCE STANDPOINT THAT WE KNOW THESE APARTMENTS ARE? WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HOUSING FINANCE

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CORPORATIONS.

WE'RE SUPPORTING SOME BILLS DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT WILL GIVE US THE RIGHT TO CONTROL ANY APARTMENTS IN OUR CITY BY OUR, OUR OWN HFCS.

THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN TAKE THEM OVER.

UH, BUT THIS IS A ZONING APPLICATION.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD IT.

WE ARE SUPPORTING OF MAYOR'S ROSS'S POSITION.

WE ARE SUPPORTING IN OUR, OUR LOBBYIST AND I WENT TO AUSTIN IN SUPPORT OF THE BILLS THAT ARE TRYING TO CORRECT THAT PECOS, HFC AS ONE THAT'S REALLY DOING IT.

THEY COME IN AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AT HOME HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS FROM OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION RIGHT NOW HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND MAKE A DEAL WITH ANY APARTMENT OWNER AND BUY THE APARTMENTS AND IT AUTOMATICALLY TAKES IT OFF THE TAX ROLLS FOR 10 YEARS.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO, IN ADDITION, THEY HAVE HAVE TO ALLOW 10%, 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A CERTAIN RATE AS THE TRADE OFF.

SO WE'RE IN OPPOSITION, UM, TO THEM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO WE'RE SUPPORTING THE BILLS, BUT THIS IS A ZONING APPLICATION.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET THE ZONING AND, UM, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ON A PUBLIC, IN A PUBLIC ZONING THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO QUITE A BIT.

YOU'RE PUT THIS IN HERE.

HOW WHEN YOU APPROVE A ZONING, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY'RE GONNA PAY THEIR TAXES? HAROLD, WE NEVER KNOW.

WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE BILL DOWN IN AUSTIN? IT'S GOTTEN GOOD TRACTION.

DO WE KNOW GREG ABBOTT'S GONNA SIGN IT.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT GREG, GREG ABBOTT'S GONNA DO.

NEITHER DOES GREG ABBOTT .

BUT, BUT, UH, WE WILL NOT BE ATTEMPTING TO TIE SOMETHING TO A ZONING CASE ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN AUSTIN.

BUT THIS IS HAPPENING IN GRAND PRAIRIE TAKING THESE PROPERTIES OFF THE, THE TAX IT'S HAPPENING.

IT HAS, IT IS HAPPENING.

CITIES ALL OVER TEXAS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

WELL JUST, YOU'RE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN MAYOR, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU, I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN HAROLD.

PROVE IT.

HOLD THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND PROVE IT.

YOU'VE DONE HAROLD, I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU.

I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN.

YOU HAVE AN, WE'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS.

PLEASE GO SIT DOWN.

OH, YOU PROVE YOU'RE NOT A REPUBLICAN.

HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE.

I PROVE WHAT I AM BY HOW I ACT AND HOW I GOVERN.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.

UH, JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION, MS. SAVANNAH, UH, ON, I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THIS CONCEPT PLAN ANYWHERE, BUT, UH, ARE THEY PROPOSING A DOG PARK TYPE AREA? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PARK PEOPLE HAVE DOGS.

YES, THEY ARE.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEADON.

THANK YOU.

UM, WELL THIS, THIS IS PHASE TWO AND UH, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ HIT HIS LEG.

SO BEFORE YOU OH, MAKE A MOTION.

LET'S LET HIM GET HIS QUESTION.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

NO, JUST ONE THING FOR THE APPLICANT, AND WE KIND OF TALKED TO THIS WITH THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX NEARBY.

UM, THERE'S NOT A SCHOOL NEARBY, SO AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR DRAWINGS OR RENDERINGS, TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BUS STOP MIGHT BE AND SEE THERE'S APPROPRIATE LIGHTING, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, DAYLIGHT CHANGE TIME.

IT GETS DARKER IN THE MORNING, SO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT BUS MIGHT STOP ALONG YOUR PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THERE'S A APPROPRIATE LIGHTING FOR ANY CHILDREN LIVING IN THE AREA.

SO SOMETHING I RECOMMEND.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEADON.

AND WOULD WOULD THE APPLICANT COME UP PLEASE? THANK YOU.

DAVID DURKA, 69 47 ABBEY COURT, DALLAS, TEXAS.

HI DAVID, THANKS FOR COMING THIS EVENING.

YES, UH, I HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO CONDO, CONDO TO BE AT THAT LAST MEETING.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO CONSTRUCTION'S MOVING REALLY FAST.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU, YOU AND YOUR TEAM WERE FLEXIBLE ON WAS A CHANGE ON SOME MATERIALS.

UM, WE MOVED TO THE WHITE STONE.

YOU GUYS ENHANCED LANDSCAPING.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THAT.

UM, AS EXCITED AS YOU CAN BE ABOUT APARTMENTS FOR PHASE TWO, I'M ASSUMING YOU'LL BE CONTINUING SAME, SAME MATERIALS THAT WE HAD AGREED ON FOR PHASE ONE.

YEAH, FOR PHASE TWO.

UH, PRIOR TO THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW RENDERINGS WITH YOU.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE APPROACHES WE CAN TAKE.

WE CAN EITHER MAKE PHASE TWO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM PHASE

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ONE TO TRY TO DISTINGUISH 'EM, OR WE CAN GO WITH THE, WE.

WE, WE DO NOT PREFER TO GO WITH THE SAME LOOK, THE SAME, UH, IDENTICAL PATH, BUT USING THE SAME MATERIALS OF COMBINATION OF STONE AND BRICK, MAYBE MORE OF A DARKER BRICK AND STONE ON ACCENTS.

UM, DIFFERENT PAINT COLORS ON OUR FIBER CEMENT SIDING.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW WITH YOU.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE CONTINUING THE MEANDERING PATH, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY, UH, CURRENT SIDEWALKS, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH IS NOT SAFE FOR ANYONE.

SO TO HAVE THE CONNECTION TO THE FUTURE RETAIL ON THE EASTERN SIDE, WE HAVE THAT MEANDERING SIDEWALK AND WE DO PLAN TO HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AT THAT MAIN ENTRY COMING IN OFF OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

GREAT.

AND, UM, WITH YOU MENTIONING THAT YOU'D LIKE IT TO LOOK DIFFERENT, I'M CURIOUS, IS IT TECHNICALLY GOING TO BE LIKE TWO DIFFERENT APARTMENTS, LIKE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS? OR IS IT IT WOULD JUST LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO BE THE SAME? UH, THEY ARE STANDALONE PROPERTIES.

UM, OKAY.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE SEPARATE CLUBHOUSES, SEPARATE AMENITIES, SEPARATE ENTRANCES.

UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THERE COULD BE SEPARATE OWNERSHIP FOR THE TWO OF THEM.

UH, WE MAY OWN PHASE TWO.

PHASE ONE MAY BE PURCHASED BY A DIFFERENT GROUP, UH, AT A LATER DATE.

SO FOR THOSE PURPOSES, WE DO LOOK AT HAVING SOME DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.

UH, WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES IN FATE, TEXAS, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT ONE'S OWNED BY ONE GROUP AND WE OWN A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT.

AND SO HAVING SOME DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM HELPS IN THAT.

ARE THEY GONNA BE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS, DIFFERENT TARGET AUDIENCES? UH, THEY'LL BE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, MR. HAROLD WHO CAME UP HERE, MR. RUES ABOUT THE HFC, I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T MANDATE WHAT GOES ON IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT IS THE BUSINESS MODEL AS FAR AS THE DURATION THAT YOU TYPICALLY HOLD YOUR APARTMENTS? IS IT A, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT BE PLANNING TO SELL AND MOVE OUT ALREADY? UH, WE, WE DO GENERALLY DEVELOP WITH THE INTENT OF SELLING THE PROPERTY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.

SO A A FIVE YEAR HOLD WOULD BE A TYPICAL SCENARIO FOR US.

UM, AS PART OF THAT THOUGH, WITH THE HFC, I CAN TELL YOU THAT PHASE ONE WAS CONVENTIONALLY FINANCED.

WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO HFC FINANCING FOR PHASE TWO AT ALL.

THAT THAT'S NOT, AND IT'S NEVER OUR MODE OF OPERATION.

IT'S NEVER USUALLY THE ONE THAT STARTS IT.

IT'S WHEN YOU EQUIPMENT ON THE BUYER.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND IT'S THE SECOND BUYER.

UM, OR THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH.

UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING THIS LEGISLATION.

UNDERSTAND AND REMIND EVERYBODY, WE'VE HAD 'EM TELL US THEIR 10 YEAR HOLD AND SELL IT IN THREE.

WE CAN'T PUT, I DON'T EVEN YEAH.

AND HE'S TELLING US DIRECTLY, I MEAN, MAYBE FIVE YEARS.

WELL, SHE'S BEING MORE HONEST.

YEAH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY ONE ON LAKE RIDGE THAT THEY WERE NEVERMIND.

UM, WELL YES, WE DO APPRECIATE THE HONESTY.

WOULD'VE LOVED TO HEAR YOU MIGHT HAVE A LONGER TENURE WAS PLANNED.

UM, BUT WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU GUYS DO HAVE THE ZONING.

UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE, THE MATERIALS.

AND WITH THAT, I I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CAN I DO 33 AND 34 TOGETHER STAFF? YES.

OKAY.

UH, YES.

A MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 34 AND 33.

SECOND WE HAVE MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSI.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AYE.

NAY.

AYE.

THANK YOU ERIC.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 35 AND I THAT, THAT BRINGS ME TO AN INTERESTING POINT OF, OF THE WAY MEL AND I HAVE INTERPRETED ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

WHEN I ASK FOR A MOTION VERBALLY, IF I DO NOT HEAR A DISTINCT NO, IT'S A YES AND I'VE EXPLAINED THAT TO THE COUNCIL.

NO VOTE A NO VOTE.

YOU GOTTA, HEY, I'M A NO BECAUSE IF I DON'T, I DON'T LISTEN FOR EVERYBODY'S.

YES.

I CAN'T PICK OUT ALL THE YESES, BUT BOY, IF YOU WANNA VOTE NO, VOTE NO.

[35. VCC-25-04-0002 - Fence Exception - Hidden Creek Screening Fence (City Council District 1). Exception to Required Fences in the Unified Development Code (UDC) to allow a wooden fence with masonry columns instead of the required masonry screening wall along Duncan Perry Rd and Avenue H East. The west side of Duncan Perry Rd and the north side of Avenue H East along the Hidden Creek Subdivision, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas (On April 28, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with a condition by a vote of 9-0)]

ITEM 35, YOU ALWAYS DO TONY AND I PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHICH ONES YOU'RE GONNA VOTE NO ON.

ALRIGHT, ITEM 35 IS A FENCE EXCEPTION FOR HIDDEN CREEK SUBDIVISION.

UH, PHASE ONE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

UH, THE REQUIRED TYPE OF FENCE IS A MASON MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BOARD ON BOARD WOODEN FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.

UH, SECTION EIGHT POINT 10.6 IN ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE UDC STATES THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN GRANT AN EXCEPTION TO THAT MASONRY WALL REQUIREMENT.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BOARD ON BOARD WOODEN FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.

SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A RENDERING OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO KEEP THE EXISTING COLUMNS

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INTACT.

UM, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXCEPTION IS THAT THEY PROVIDE A MAINTENANCE PLAN.

UH, THEY HAVE DONE SO AND IT INCLUDES BIANNUAL INSPECTION, ANNUAL CLEANING, UH, PERIODIC CEILING OR STAINING AND REPAIRS AS NEEDED.

AND THEN, UH, EVENTUALLY, ULTIMATELY A REPLACEMENT OF THE THE WALL.

UM, STAFF DID RECEIVE SOME LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.

UH, WE RECEIVED 17 LETTERS OF SUPPORT REPRESENTING 16 UNIQUE LOCATIONS.

WE RECEIVED, UH, FOUR LETTERS OF OPPOSITION REPRESENTING FOUR UNIQUE LOCATIONS.

UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN MAPPED ON THE SCREEN AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN SUPPORT ARE IN GREEN, THOSE IN OPPOSITION OR IN ORANGE.

ON APRIL 28TH.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.

UM, THAT FOR THE FIRST ONE, THREE YEARS, NO CEILING OR STANDING SHALL BE REQUIRED.

AFTER THAT CEILING OR STANDING SHALL OCCUR EVERY TWO YEARS.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY INCORPORATED THAT CONDITION INTO THEIR MAINTENANCE PLAN.

SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE OPTION TO CONSTRUCT A WOODEN BOARD ON BOARD FENCE INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED MASONRY.

WALL CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE ZANU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU SAVANNAH.

UM, I BELIEVE THREE OUT OF THE FOUR NOS.

UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSING THE FENCE LIVE ALONG THE, THE LINE THAT THE FENCE IS GONNA BE PUT ON.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION AS TO WHY THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION? SO SOME OF THE OPPOSITION LETTERS CITED, UH, WANTING TO HAVE A MASONRY WALL FOR SECURITY, FOR NOISE DAMPENING, UH, 'CAUSE IT, UH, BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT RAISED PROPERTY VALUE.

UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

GOTCHA.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL, UH, MS. SAVANNA, THE CONCRETE WALL THAT WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN.

IS IT SIX FEET? YES.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHY PNC DIDN'T WANT STAINING FOR THE OR A CEILING FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS? TYPICALLY IT'S NOT NEEDY NEEDED.

UH, THEIR CONCERN WAS THE MAINTENANCE PLAN WAS A LITTLE VAGUE ON WHEN THE CEILING, UH, AND STANDING WOULD TAKE PLACE SO THAT THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT AFTER THAT FIRST KIND OF THREE YEARS, THAT IT WAS DONE EVERY TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF, UH, LEAVING THAT KIND OF UP TO DISCRETION.

OKAY.

WELL IF IT'S, IF IT'S CONSTRUCTED OUT OF WESTERN RED CEDAR, IT WILL HOLD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, BEFORE YOU HAVE TO START, BEFORE YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU HAVE TO START WORKING ON, BUT IF IT'S ANY OF THIS OTHER WHITEWOOD BOLOGNA THAT THEY'RE BUILDING FENCES OUT OF NOWADAYS, IT, IT WON'T HOLD 30 DAYS WITHOUT NEEDING SEAL.

GOOD POINT.

SO IT IS IT IT IS GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED OUTTA WESTERN RED CEDAR? YES.

OKAY.

AND THE, THE CURRENT CONCRETE OR THE, UH, BALLARDS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED ARE ABOUT 50 FEET APART APPROXIMATELY.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REMAINING IN PLACE.

OKAY.

AND, AND THE REST OF THE FENCE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE THE, OUR NORMAL ON METAL POLES WITH METAL ATTACHMENTS.

YES.

AND THE BOARD ON BOARD WOULD BE FACING OUTWARD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

YOU KNOW, I READ, UH, MR. BARON'S COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO HAVING THIS FENCE, UH, ERECTED.

UH, HE'S IN, PULL YOUR MIC UP TO YOU.

PLEASE, SIR.

OKAY.

HE'S IN, UH, OPPOSITION OF THIS AND HE BRINGS UP A VERY GOOD POINT WHERE THE HOA FEES WENT UP JUST TO REPAIR THE FENCE, THE, THE BASEMENT REAR WALL.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING FROM A MASON AREA WALL TO A WOODEN FENCE.

SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE HOA TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES, THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE.

OKAY.

I'LL BE WAITING FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME UP.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET HIM COME UP AND SPEAK.

ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS BRIAN CROW.

MY ADDRESS IS 24 32 KINGS SCALIA DRIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

SO I'M THE PERSON THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO, I BELIEVE, AND I REPRESENT THE BOARD AND IN GENERAL, THE INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY TO, UH, BRING THIS WAIVER REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS FENCE, THIS BRICK WALL HAS IS MY PROJECT ON THE, ON THE BOARD.

AND IT HAS BEEN SO FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, UH, THE WALL WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY WITH A CONSTRUCTION DEFECT.

AND THE DEVELOPER, THE COMMUNITY REFUSED TO ADDRESS THE CONSTRUCTION DEFECT.

UH, IT WAS BEYOND A TWO YEAR WARRANTY THAT THEY EXTENDED TO EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE WALL.

SO WE INVEST ANNUALLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO REPAIR THE WALL.

AND TO DATE, IT'S BEEN MORE THAN A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

WE'RE

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A COMMUNITY OF 175 HOMES BUILT IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES, WHICH ARE PHYSICALLY SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER.

UH, YOU CANNOT WALK BETWEEN THEM.

YOU MUST DRIVE.

UH, THE TWO COMMUNITIES, UH, ARE A LITTLE BIT DIVIDED IN HOW THEY VIEW WHAT'S EQUITABLE AND FAIR BETWEEN THEM.

UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE SPEAK 29 LANGUAGES AT THE DINNER TABLE.

LAST I ASKED, THAT'S A LOT OF DIVERSITY.

SO OUR CHALLENGES AREN'T JUST FINANCIAL PLANNING, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY IMPACT THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND ADDRESS VERY PERSONALLY.

SO YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.

UH, WE DO DEDICATE, UH, TYPICALLY WE JUSTIFY AND DEDICATE INCREASES IN OUR ASSESSMENT TO WALL MAINTENANCE.

AND THAT'S A STATEMENT WE MAKE TO OUR HOMEOWNERS.

AND WHENEVER WE SPEND MONEY AND WE SPEND MONEY LIKE A CITY DOES, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PREDICT IT.

$10,000 TO FIX AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

IN MY MIND, I SAY THAT'S THREE PANELS WE CAN'T FIX.

UH, WHEN WE SPEND $25,000 FOR RENOVATOR ENTRANCES, I SAY IT'S EIGHT PANELS WE CAN'T FIX.

AND EVERYTHING I THINK ABOUT, I EQUATE TO HOW MANY PANELS WE CAN FIX OR NOT FIX, DEPENDING, UH, BUT WE TYPICALLY DO, UH, REPAIRS ANNUALLY.

AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN YOU INTEND TO RE REPLACE THE ENTIRE WALL, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE STRUCTURE, THE ENTIRE WALL IN PHASE ONE IS CRUMBLING AND IS NOT SALVAGEABLE OR REPAIRABLE.

AT SOME POINT YOU SAY YOU STOP THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD, OR IS IT BAD MONEY AFTER GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXPRESSION QUITE , BUT YOU, YOU STOP INVESTING IN REPAIRS AND YOU HOLD BACK TO SAVE FOR REPLACEMENT BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO REPLACE THE PANEL ONE YEAR AND DEMOLISH IT THE NEXT THERE'D BE AN UPROAR.

SO WHEN, UH, WHEN MR. BARON, AND, AND I KNOW MR. BARON, I I KNOW MOST ALL OF OUR HOMEOWNERS, IN FACT WE HAVE SEVERAL TONIGHT IN OUR AUDIENCE, BUT MR. BARON SAYS THAT'S WHAT WE SAID.

IT IS INDEED WHAT WE SAID.

BUT MR. BARON ISN'T PRIVY TO, UH, THE PLANNING DISCUSSION WHEN IT'S UNCERTAIN.

HE HEARS US IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND OUR ANNUAL MEETINGS, UH, BUT HE DOESN'T MONITOR OUR EMAIL AND OUR DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE CAN DO IT AND HOW WE CAN'T.

UH, BUT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO, UH, INVEST HEAVILY IN, UH, ROUTINE REPAIRS, BUT WE WOULD INVEST WHERE NECESSARY WHEN THE WALL WAS A SAFETY FACTOR OR CRUMBLING.

AND ONE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS IN FACT VIEWS THE WALL IN OUR BACKYARD IS A SAFETY FACTOR.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN URGENT NEED TO ACT.

AND THE URGENCY IS FIRST AND FOREMOST IN MY MIND, 24% OF OUR HOMEOWNERS LIVE ON THE WALL.

THE REST DON'T.

SO, UH, WHEN WE, WE TALK TO OUR HOMEOWNERS, INVARIABLY THOSE ON THE WALL HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN MAINTAINING THE WALL.

AND THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE ALMOST UNIFORMLY SAID THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO MAINTAINING THE WALL OF THOSE OTHER 24% OF THE HOMEOWNERS.

THERE'S NOT THAT KIND OF COOPERATIVE SPIRIT IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WOULD FAIL.

AND I'VE, UH, I SPEAK TO EVERY HOMEOWNER WHO WALKS PAST MY HOUSE.

I PULL THEM ASIDE AND HOPE THEY DON'T MIND.

BUT I ASK THEM QUESTIONS LIKE THIS, WITH THIS AS A CONSIDERATION, WOULD YOU PAY FOR IT? AND INVARIABLY, IF YOU DON'T LIVE ON THE WALL, OUR HOMEOWNERS AREN'T ANXIOUS TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR FUNDS THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT TO THAT WALL.

SO WE'RE AT A WE'RE WE HAD NO EASY ANSWER.

YEAH, WE HAD NO EASY ANSWER.

OUR, UH, IF WE WERE TO DO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WALL WITH THE MASONRY PRODUCT, WE'D CHOOSE SOMETHING LIKE RHINO ROCK, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN BRICK.

UH, RHINO ROCK FOR US WOULD BE A MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM FOR 175 HOMEOWNERS.

UH, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WOULD REQUIRE HOMEOWNERS TO, UH, COME FORWARD OR FINANCE MORE THAN, EXCUSE ME, YOUR FIVE MINUTES ARE UP.

BUT, AND TO BE WHAT WE NORMALLY DO, KURT, HAS HE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION? IF NOT, HE CAN CONTINUE, HE CAN CONTINUE IF HE NEEDS, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION, SO GO AHEAD.

IT, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU A CONCRETE ANSWER.

THE GENERAL CONSENT THING I HEAR IS IT SHOULDN'T YOUR BOARD'S OPINION THAT GOING TO THIS WOULD SAVE MONEY OVER TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU, SOME DON'T.

YES.

BUT IN YOUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION'S BOARD OPINION WHO PAST HISTORY, THIS IS THE SAFEST, MOST ECONOMICAL WAY TO GO FORWARD.

WELL, YOU, YOU ARE MY SALESMAN, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT.

I'M JUST SAYING , THAT'S THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL USED TO COME UP WITH.

YES, SIR.

THAT,

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THAT, THAT REFLECTS OUR, SO DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT THREE YEARS AGO YOU GUYS INCREASED THE RATE? ROUGHLY? YES.

OKAY.

IN TH FOR THREE 10%.

SAY AGAIN.

10%.

OKAY.

YOU, YOU INCREASED THE RATE FOR THREE YEARS, AND WHEN YOU INCREASED THE RATE, APPARENTLY YOU HAD A BUDGET OR YOU FORECAST WHAT YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO TRY TO GET TO THAT MILLION DOLLARS.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ASKING THE CITY FOR A LOAN? WE ACTUALLY, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONSIDERED APPROACHING THE CITY FOR A BOND.

A 10 YEAR BOND.

A 10 YEAR BOND WOULD IMPOSE A COST TO AN AVERAGE COST FOR HOMEOWNER ABOUT $900 A YEAR.

OUR CURRENT ASSESSMENT IS 580.

OKAY.

OUR HOMEOWNERS WOULD, WOULD BE UNABLE TO FACE THAT KIND OF BURDEN.

OKAY.

SO THE LAST QUESTION, YOU INCREASED THE RATE OR YOU'RE GONNA DECREASE THE RATE? THE, WE DON'T KNOW THE ASSESSMENT BECAUSE YOU INCREASED IT FOR THE MILLION, MILLION DOLLARS.

HE DOESN'T KNOW YET.

OKAY.

I JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE HE'S CLEAR.

WE INCREASED FOR THE MILLION.

WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT YET FOR THE MAINTENANCE.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE YOUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THE MAINTENANCE.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

FOR, FOR, FOR THE WOODEN FENCE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS MORE BASED TOWARDS YOU.

THREE YEARS AGO, YOU INCREASED THE, THE ASSESSMENTS TO GET TO THE MILLION DOLLARS, BUT SINCE YOU'RE GOING WITH A PROJECT THAT COSTS MAYBE 175,000, WE, WE INCREASED THE ASSESSMENT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO REPAIR THE WALL AS NECESSARY.

GETTING UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS IS, IS BEYOND THE, THE FINANCIAL ABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST BEYOND IT.

WE WE'RE DOING WELL TO REPAIR PANEL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPUTY MA, MAYOR PRO TEM.

DO YOU WANT TO QUESTION HIM FOR ANYTHING OR YOU WANT I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND IF, IF IT REQUIRES A QUESTION, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

MR. CROW.

I OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER.

OKAY.

YES.

NO, YES WE DO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SORRY.

MELVIN.

MELVIN WILLIAMS. GOOD.

I WISH I'D LEAVE MY FRIENDS ALONG.

WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.

T WE ONLY GOT ONE SPACE BETWEEN TWO COLUMNS THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED.

AND, UH, WHO'S GOING HAUL AWAY ALL TRASH.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEM GETTING RID THE, ALL OF THE, UH, OLD BRICKS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, UH, INSPECTIONS AND CLEANING AND CLEAR CEILING AND ALL THIS STUFF.

UH, I, I DON'T CARE WHAT TO DO PAST MY HOUSE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MINE STAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THAT, TO YOUR INTEREST IN OUR CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT, UH, TO COMMENT AND THANK, UM, MR. CROW AND MR. ROLFE AND THIS OTHER GENTLEMAN FOR BEING HERE.

UM, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. CROW HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND REALLY AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB AS, UH, LEADING THIS, UM, COMMUNITY IN THE PAST.

AND I THINK HE TRIED TO RETIRE A FEW YEARS AGO AND THEY, AND HE COULDN'T BECAUSE HE DOES, NO ONE ELSE HAS VOLUNTEERED TO STEP UP.

AND THAT SEEMS TO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THIS GREAT, GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, IT IS, UM, UNUSUAL TO HAVE THIS, AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS IS NOT ONLY IT'S UNSIGHTLY AT SOMEPLACE, BUT IT IS DANGEROUS.

AND THAT I THINK IS THE, IS THE MAJOR POINT, IS WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED AND LOOKING AT AS FAR AS GETTING SOMETHING DONE SOON.

AND, UM, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES I DRIVE PAST THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY.

AND AS FAR AS HOW THAT LOOKS WITH THE BOARD ON BOARD, I THINK IT LOOKS NICE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT LOOKS NICE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF, IF YOU HAD A MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU WANTED TO PUT ALL MASONRY, UH, BUT THAT'S GONNA COST, THAT'S GONNA COST SOMEBODY A LOT OF MONEY.

AND, UH, SO, UH, WITH ALL THINGS SAID, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY, WE'VE LEARNED THAT SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY THIS YEAR.

UM, TONIGHT, SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

UM, MAYOR AND THANK YOU SAVANNAH FOR WORKING WITH THEM SO WELL AND RASHAD AND YOUR DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO TRIED THAT.

YOU HAVE TRIED TO HELP THEM GET, ESPECIALLY ADDRESS THE SAFETY ISSUES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO THANK YOU,

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UH, WITH THAT MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MOVE THE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 35 WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE LISTED.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLEMSON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES CITIZEN

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

COMMENTS.

CHARLIE GARZA.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, I COME TO YOU WITH YET ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS, AND THAT IS HOW WE PRESENT AWARDS TO PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

AS A GENERAL RULE, WE PRESENT AWARDS AS A BIG GROUP AND TAKE LIKE A BIG GROUP PHOTOGRAPH IN MY VIEW AND MY EXPERIENCE IN LEADERSHIP THAT DEMEANS THE AWARD ITSELF FOR THE CONSIDERATION.

THERE'S A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF SOME AWARDS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THAT WERE NOT GIVEN IN MY VIEW.

ONE OF WHICH WAS, UH, SOUTH GRAND PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN MARIACHI BANDS AND THEY RECEIVE NO CONSIDERATION FROM THIS COUNCIL.

AND A STATE AWARD IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS WORTHY OF, OF CONSIDERATION.

NUMBER TWO, WITHIN THE SAME AWARD CATEGORY IS IN TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, MARK'S MEMORIAL DAY, NO DISCUSSION BEING DISCUSSED ON MEMORIAL DAY AND WHAT THE EFFECT IS FOR VETERANS AND THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY.

AND THIS IS A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT TO ME THAT WE, THE COUNCIL, DON'T CONSIDER BASED ON THE AGENDA THAT VETERANS ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES, BOTH MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY AS TWO SEPARATE DAYS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, MOST FOLKS TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERAN'S DAY.

AND THERE'S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE.

DURING MY NAVY DAYS, I WAS SELECTED BY THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY TO BE THE PERSON WHO WOULD KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND NOTIFY YOU OF THE LOSS OF YOUR LOVED ONE.

SO THIS TO ME IS MORE THAN JUST A FLAG.

THIS TO ME HAS A RAISED GERMAN MAIN INTEREST BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO FOR ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY THE PERSON RECEIVING THE NOTICE THAT THEIR LOVED ONE IS GONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, EVEN THOUGH I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, THE SAME THING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER AND RE RE REITERATE THAT.

AND THAT IS IN MY EXPERIENCE, MONA, LISA AND GLORIA ARE OUTSTANDING STAFF MEMBERS OF GRAND PERRY.

I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH 'EM ON A COUPLE OCCASIONS, AND BOTH TIMES THEY WERE JUST IMPECCABLE AND EXCEEDED ALL EXPECTATIONS.

AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, THAT I, FOR ONE, TRULY RECOGNIZE THEM AND THINK THAT THEY'RE OUTSTANDING AND THEY'RE A HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO SUPPORT OF THE STAFF AND THIS COUNCIL.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TO THE CHIEF.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT I CAME TO YOU PREVIOUSLY ABOUT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SPEEDING ON KINGSWOOD AND HOW THAT WAS HAPPENING.

WELL, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND BEFORE THE MEETING, THEY GAVE ME SOME STATS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU.

AND THIS IS WHAT I WROTE DOWN.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S ACCURATE.

SINCE THEY BEGAN REVIEWING THIS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE 66 STOPS ON KINGSWOOD.

OF THE 66 STOPS, 50 HAVE BEEN CITATIONS, AND OF THE 50 41 OF THEM ARE FOR SPEEDING, WHICH TELLS YOU THAT THE CONCERN I HAD TRULY, IN FACT, IS A CONCERN.

I BROUGHT THE CONCERN TO THE HOA AND THE HOA ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.

AND WE ARE TRULY IN CONSIDERATION.

NOW, WE HAD A MEMBER OF, OF THE LEADERSHIP AT GRAND PRAIRIE TELL US THAT AS PART OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE GOING IN KINGSWOOD, THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION IS A STOP SIGN OR SOME OTHER MEANS BY WHICH TO ABATE THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEED THAT PROCESS UP BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A DEFINITE NEED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

FINALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE ALSO DIDN'T CONSIDER TEACHER APPRECIATION.

THIS IS THIS WEEK.

AND UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE EDUCATION FIELD, YOU DON'T REALIZE THE SACRIFICES THAT TEACHERS MAKE TO ENSURE THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE AND CAN LEAD.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN MY VIEW ON THE AGENDA.

I WOULD RECOMMEND.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE RECOGNIZE THE CAMPUS TEACHER AS WELL,

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THE BEST TEACHER OF EACH CAMPUS BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO A MAJOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THAT IS THE, THE CREAM OF THE CREAM.

AND NORMALLY SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAKE THAT CONSIDERATION ON OR ABOUT THIS TIMEFRAME.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT NAVY DAY.

UM, WE HAD A CITIZEN WHO SIGNED UP FOR ITEMS 33 AND 34.

THOSE HAVE BEEN ACTED ON BY THE COUNCIL ALREADY, SO WE'LL NOT SPEAK, BUT WE WILL NOTE YOUR SUPPORT.

MR. DAVID DURAS.

CITIZEN COMMENTS.

MR. HAROLD WILLIS.

HAROLD WILLIS.

5 3 8 LINLEY.

I'M GONNA START THE THIS OFF BY, LET'S REMEMBER SALLY MOORE.

UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS IT LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF AGO? SALLY MOORE WAS ONE OF MY COUNSELORS.

IN 1972 AT GRAND PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL, SALLY MOORE SERVED WITH US ON THE 2007 BOND COMMITTEE TO BRING OUR NEW POLICE STATION AND OUR CAREER SCHOOL TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

SALLY MOORE AND HER HUSBAND DONATED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT MONEY FIGURE WAS TO PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES ALONG WITH BARBARA AND BJ NICHOLS.

THEY TOOK MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO MAKE PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES AVAILABLE OR TO THE CHILDREN.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE MUST REMEMBER SALLY MOORE FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS AND HER HUSBAND TO GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT, I MADE CONTACT WITH ANDREA LUCIA AT CHANNEL 11.

WE HAD A LONG TALK.

SHE TOLD ME, I TOLD HER EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THESE APARTMENTS OUT HERE.

SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS GONNA MEET WITH JIM ROSS.

SHE DID THE INTERVIEW WITH JIM ROSS.

JIM ROSS WAS AN ARLINGTON COP.

HE KNOWS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

HE KNOWS THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES.

WHEN JIM ROSS TOLD ANDREA, CIA, I'M P****D.

I'M GLAD HE'S SHOWING SOME ANGER THAT THIS IS GOING ON IN THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW.

WHAT? I WANNA LET YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE POST OFFICE ON WESTCHESTER.

I WALKED IN THERE, I INTRODUCED MYSELF AND I SAID, I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN ON A FIXED INCOME.

I NEED ONE OF THESE, UH, INCOME REDUCED APARTMENTS AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE WORKING IN THERE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? AND I EXPLAINED THE WHOLE THING TO THEM.

WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT DERBY PARK, THE ONE UP ON HILL STREET, ALL OF THOSE, I CALLED THEM.

WHAT ARE YOUR RATES FOR FOLKS ON FIXED INCOME OR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ONLY EARNING 14, 15 BUCKS AN HOUR? WHAT ARE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THIS IS WHY JIM ROSS IS P****D.

THEY'RE NOT RENDERING UNTO CAESAR, THEY'RE TAKING THE MONEY AND CONTRACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

THEY'RE NOT.

YOU CAN'T, SOMEONE WHO'S ON A FIXED INCOME, YOU CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

THIS IS WHY I'M TANGLING WITH YOU, MAYOR, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I'VE ASKED IS DOWN TO THE PENNY.

WHAT IS OFF THE TAX ROLLS? NOT ONE GRAND PRAIRIE SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATE BROUGHT THIS UP AND I'VE BEEN DOWN TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BRINGING IT UP.

EMILY LYES KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS REELECTED.

CONGRATULATIONS TO HER.

BUT RODNEY ANDERSON WAS RUNNING HER CAMPAIGN.

AND RODNEY AS A REPUBLICAN DEFINITELY ISN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING.

I RESPECT RODNEY, BECAUSE RODNEY WILL BEAT YOU AT THE POLLS HE'LL GET AFTER YOU.

BUT RODNEY ANDERSON KNOWS THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.

THIS IS WHY, MAYOR, PLEASE TELL US.

PUT IT IN SOMETHING THAT, WHO ARE THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES DOWN IN AUSTIN? WHAT ARE THEY DOING DOWN THERE? AND WHEN YOU GO TO AUSTIN, TEXAS, DON'T TAKE AMERICAN EXPRESS OR DISCOVER ONLY COLD HARD CASH GETS WHAT YOU WANT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

AND THE FACT THAT OUR NEWS MEDIA, WE THIS, THEY SHOULD BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.

IF THIS WAS BECKY OLIVER AND HER PRODUCER, DONALD RIESEL, BECKY OLIVER WOULD HAVE THAT MICROPHONE RIGHT IN THEIR FACE NONSTOP.

BUT SADLY, IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S OUR POLITICAL APATHY.

IT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE COVER UP HERE.

WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS MAYOR MATTIE PARKER.

JIM ROSS, YOU, ERIC JOHNSON, THE MAYOR OF DALLAS.

ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THIS TO THE PUBLIC.

YOU WORK FOR US, WE WANT THIS BACK ON THE TAX ROBES.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, IT'S A SCAM.

BUT THIS IS A GOOD TRUMP REPUBLICAN SCAM.

AND AS LONG AS TRUMP IS IN HERE DOING WHAT HE'S DOING, OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC IS UNDER ATTACK.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND, YOU SEE ALL THE PROTESTS GOING ON THROUGHOUT

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THIS NATION RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE THE RESISTANCE TO THE REPUBLICANS REVENGE AND RETRIBUTION.

AND WE WILL CHALLENGE THOSE ACCORDINGLY IN PUBLIC FORUMS. BECAUSE THIS IS UHUH.

NO.

SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING.

TELL US.

JUST PUT IT OUT IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

MAYOR, WE'VE LOST 1.2 MILLION.

WE'VE LOST 3.8 MILLION ALONG WITH ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES IN DALLAS COUNTY.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE FLOOR TO CITY MANAGER BILL HILLS.

YEAH, THAT WAS .

OH, BILL GAVE IT TO, TO ME.

HE DIDN'T SAY WHO IT WAS FROM.

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

.

AND HE HANDED IT TO ME.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I WILL MAKE IT.

I WILL, I WILL.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.

I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT ON UH, MEMORIAL DAY AND MAY 26TH AT NINE 30, THERE IS A CELEBRATION, A TRIBUTE TO, TO FOLKS WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

AND IT'S, IT, IT'S ALWAYS HAPPENED.

UH, THEY RING THE BELL.

UH, THE POLICE HONOR GUARD.

IT'S A VERY MOVING, THE POLICE HONOR GUARD COMES OUT.

IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY MOVING TRIBUTE.

AND ANYBODY TO SAY THAT GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS DOESN'T HONOR HIS VETERANS AND PEOPLE THAT GAVE THEIR LIVES IS JUST DAMN WRONG.

AND I DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

AND I'M DONE.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.