Mar 24, 2025 Planning &amp; Zoning 03242025

THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE'S ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER, UH, FCO.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ITEM ONE AND VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH THE

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10TH.

I SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING CON, UH, MINUTES ON ITEM ONE BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[2. STP-25-02-0006 - Site Plan - Industrial Warehouse at 2322 N Hwy 360 (City Council District 1). Site Plan for an industrial warehouse on 3.0 acres. Tracts 3F & 3G, Jonathan Brown Survey, Abstract 110, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned LI, within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay District and addressed as 2322 N Hwy 360]

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, A SITE PLAN STP 25 0 2 0 0 0 6.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AT 2322 NORTH HIGHWAY 360.

SO THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ON THREE ACRES.

LOT.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THIS GENERAL AREA THERE IS A 360 AND POST PADDOCK.

THEY ARE KIND OF SURROUNDED BY SOME CONVENIENCE STORES AND APARTMENTS AND OTHER WAREHOUSES.

THE PROPOSED SITE WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

THEY HAVE A BANK THAT'S BEEN UNOCCUPIED FOR QUITE A WHILE.

THEY WANTED TO, UH, SCRAPE AND REBUILD IT.

THEY DO HAVE A CURRENT ZONING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ALLOWS THE PROPOSED USE.

THEREFORE, THEY ARE COMING FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW.

YOU IN GENERAL, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT AND ALSO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT'S SHOWN.

THEY'RE COMBINING THE BANK SITE AND THE, UH, LOT THAT KIND OF LEFT UNDEVELOPED AND WILL BE PROPOSING A BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 48 UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THEY ARE PROVIDING LANDSCAPE, WHICH ARE GENERALLY IN COMPLIANCE.

I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING ON ALONG, UH, PAD WAY, UH, A LITTLE BERM WITH THE LIVE SCREENING.

UM, WHEN ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY, UM, PUBLIC STREETS ON THREE SIDES.

HOWEVER, THIS PAD WAVE JUST ONLY LEAVES AND SURROUND THIS WAREHOUSE, AND IT DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER BUILDINGS, UM, THAT ARE ACCESSED BY IT OTHER THAN THESE WAREHOUSE THAT ARE EXISTING.

IT'S NOT REALLY VISIBLE FROM RESIDENTS.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA, LIKE, THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO TRAVEL THROUGH THERE.

SO STAFF HAS NO, NO CONCERNS FOR THAT.

THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE.

AS I HAD MENTIONED, THEY HAVE LIMITED AVAILABILITY ON THE FRONT.

HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A FRONTAGE ALONG 360, UM, IN ORDER TO FIT THE BUILDING.

AND THE TRUCK DOCKS THAT REQUESTED TO, UH, VARIANCE TO THE 34 LANDSCAPE BUFFER JUST FOR THIS TRIANGULAR PORTION MARKED WITH ORANGE STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS FOR THIS COM UH, REQUEST.

HERE'S THE RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY PUT, UM, A LOT OF HIGHLIGHTS AROUND THE CORNER THAT WILL EMPHASIZE 360 ON THIS SIDE AND POST AND PADDOCK HERE.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS THEY HAVE PROPOSED.

UH, PROVIDED THIS ARE, UM, IN ALIGNMENT WITH APPENDIX X REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ALLOW, UM, A TAPERING TO A MINIMUM BATH, UH, DEPTH OF 7.2 FEET.

DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH JUST ONE CONDITION, UH, PER TRANSPORTATION.

UM, THIS DRIVEWAY WAY ENTRANCE REQUIRES TDOT APPROVAL, SO WE JUST WANNA POSTPONE THAT UNTIL CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE TDOT REVIEW AS REQUIRED.

SO, DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE, UH, CONDITION THAT THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY BE APPROVED BY TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY S UH, SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND .

THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

ANY QUESTION FOR STEPH AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? GREAT PRESENTATION.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, MA'AM? YOU SURE? OKAY.

UH, R WILSON WHITE IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

HE DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT AND HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD ANY ARISE.

IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO HAS A, HAS A QUESTION.

IS HE GONNA BE THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN, THAT CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER? UM, I BELIEVE, SORRY.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A SECOND PERSON, RYAN SPEARS, UM, WHO'S INDICATED.

HE'S, UM, ONLY NEEDS TO SPEAK TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WHICHEVER Y'ALL DREW THE SHORT STRAW, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? YES, WE DO NEED A REPRESENTATIVE.

A DAY MAYBE FOR THIS TYPE OF TENANT.

CAN I HELP YOU? THIS IS A SERIOUS CD MEETING RIGHT HERE.

CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? HELLO, MY NAME IS WILSON WHITE.

CAN'T WAIT TILL YOU GET UP HERE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

MAKE SURE.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, MY NAME IS WILSON WHITE.

I AM THE DEVELOPER, UH, THE APPLICANT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY.

MR. WHITE, THIS IS MY DISTRICT.

I AM GLAD YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE DOING SOMETHING WITH THE, THAT CHASE BANK SITE.

IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, SO ALL THE 18 WHEELERS THOUGH ARE GONNA COME UP ON PADDOCK WAY? YES, SIR.

SO THE DRIVEWAY ON PADDOCK WAY, THIS IS NOT A HEAVY DISTRIBUTION TRUCK TRAFFIC TYPE USE.

THIS IS ONE OR TWO TRUCKS

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AND THOSE TRUCKS, WE'RE GONNA SIGN THE ENTRY, UH, THAT THAT TRUCKS WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED THROUGH PADDOCK WAY.

SO IF, IF YOU, I, I KNOW THE AREA, BUT ARE THOSE 18 WHEELERS, UH, WILL BE, THEY THERE? I MEAN, THERE COULD BE ONE OR TWO.

I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE, TO THE EAST, IT'S A LOT OF 18 WHEELERS.

YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN IF MR. HUNTSMAN'S OKAY WITH IT, BUT THEM MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN TO GO ONTO POST AND PADDOCK IN ORDER TO GET TO THE 360, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BUSY UP THERE DURING THE DAY.

IT'S, YEAH, I KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT LOCATION RIGHT NOW.

I, I COULD GET MORE DETAILS ON THAT IF YOU NEED.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE SOUTHBOUND ROUTE THAT THEY COULD TAKE TO GET DOWN FURTHER TO 360 AND INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WAY.

I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THOSE TRUCKS DO.

THERE'S A LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO THE SOUTH OF THIS SITE.

CAN THEY GET ONTO THE 360 SERVICE ROAD BY GOING SOUTH? TO GO NORTH? YES.

SO THEY CAN COME DOWN AND THEN, AND THEN HEAD BACK NORTH TO THE INTERSECTION, NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT CROSSING MANEUVER.

YEAH, JUNE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PADDOCK WAY THEN WENT, UH, WEST TO GET TO THE 360 SERVICE SOAT, BUT I GUESS IT DOES.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN? NO, NO, NO.

I THOUGHT YOUR QUESTION AND THEN I GUESS ALL THE OLD GROWTH TREES THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET RID OF AS PART OF YOUR NEW PLAN.

UH, SORRY.

UM, THEY ARE MITIGATING THOSE TREE REMOVALS.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE THE, THE, THE ONES THAT ARE THE, THE ONES THAT ARE THERE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE A LOT MORE PLANTED.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANTED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THIS, UM, VARIANCE 7.2.

UH, AND I, I KNOW YOU HAVE TIME, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

CAN YOU KINDA EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE? YEAH, SO IT REALLY HELPS US WITH THE PARKING UP FRONT ALONG THE FRONTAGE THERE.

AND THIS IS MORE OF A, WHAT WE ENVISION IN THAT CORNER IS KIND OF A HIGHER END SHOWROOM TYPE USE.

AND SO THAT VARIANCE ALLOWS US TO REALLY SQUARE THE PARKING OFF SO IT'S NOT, THE CONFIGURATION IS A LITTLE BIT CLEANER FOR THE USE IF THAT BECOMES A SHOWROOM SPACE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THAT? NO MORE.

UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

OH, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE, UH, OF THE TENANTS? I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE ANY PROSPECTIVE TENANTS IN MIND? UM, AT THIS TIME IT IS SPECULATIVE, BUT LIKE I CAN ENVISION, UM, UM, SERVICE BUSINESS LIKE A, LIKE A TRAIN FOR LIKE A TRAIN HVAC BUSINESS WHO WANTS THE VISIBILITY AND THE, AND THE OFFICE SHOWROOM TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW SOME PRODUCT OFF, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTE LIGHT, LIGHT PRODUCTS.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIGHT TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THIS IS GONNA BE MORE BOX TRUCKS AND, AND USES OF THAT NATURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ON THIS? THIS IS COMMISSIONER FOR KO'S AREA AND HE'S GONNA MAKE THE MOTION OF COURSE, BUT IF ANY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR DO YOU WANT TO TELL US ANY MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER? NO.

I, I THINK THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING GOOD TO MAKE USEFUL, UH, USE OUT OF THAT LAND.

IT HAS BEEN, UH, UNOCCUPIED FOR A LONG TIME.

SO IF NOBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO AND VOTE TO APPROVE PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND THAT.

OKAY, WE HAVE TWO SEC.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM TWO BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TY CHAPMAN.

THE NEXT ITEMS ARE ACTUALLY A JOINT ITEM.

NEXT CASE PLEASE.

[Items 3 & 4]

SO I'LL BE COVERING ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR TOGETHER.

THE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, CPA 2 5 0 3 0 0 0 5.

SO THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE CURRENT, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR OF MIXED USE TO A, UH, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIFAMILY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, SO THIS AREA SHOWN AS A HIGH DENSITY ON THE CURRENT MAP WAS ACTUALLY THEIR PHASE ONE PROJECT WHERE THE PD 18 ALLOW FOR THE MULTIFAMILY USE.

THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD IT WITHOUT A ZONE CHANGE.

THEY JUST NEED TO, UH, ADOPT A CON PLAN.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS STILL IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT OF, UH, PD 18.

SO WHEN THEY ARE APPROVED THERE, FEATURE LINE USE MAP WILL BE, UM, MATCHING THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL JUST AS THE PHASE ONE.

SO STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONE CHAINS BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHAINS.

DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE UMAB.

HOWEVER, STAFF NOTES THAT THE MULTIFAMILY IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY THE EXISTING ZONING.

THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A ZONE CHANGE TO PD AMENDMENT

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TO , A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PD 18 ZON 25 0 2 0 0 0 5.

SO AGAIN, THEY ARE PROPOSING A PD AMENDMENT TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR A 300 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS 14 POINT ACRE SITE.

18, UH, POINT 14, 14 ACRE SITE.

AS I HAVE DESCRIBED BEFORE, THIS IS THE SOUTH BELTLINE AND I 20.

THIS CORNER IS WHERE THE PRO APPROACH PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED.

THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND THEY ARE WANTING TO CONNECT RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

AND SO PHASE TWO, HERE'S THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.

AGAIN, I THINK IN THE, DURING THE PREVIOUS CASE, WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING, UH, FISH CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH.

SO THEY DID PROVIDE A DISTANCE.

THEY KIND OF KEPT IT ALIGNED WITH THE PHASE ONE, WHERE THEY LOCATED THE BUILDING TO NOT FACE THE SUBDIVISION AND TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY NINE AND THE FIRST BUILDING STARTING.

SO THEY HAVE PROPOSED THIS BUILDING HERE, BUT REST OF THE BUILDING WILL BE ALONG I 20.

THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT BUILDINGS.

THEY HAVE ONE TO THREE BEDROOMS. THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A CLUBHOUSE WITH A POOL, DOG PARK, AND A PICKLEBALL COURT.

HERE'S THE CONCEPT ELEVATION, WHICH IS GENERALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE APPROVED FOR THE PROS.

PHASE ONE, I THINK THEY'RE JUST USING DIFFERENT HIGHLIGHTING COLOR.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND AGAIN, THE STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST BECAUSE OF THE INCONSISTENCY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

HOWEVER, WE NOTE THAT THE MULTIFAMILY USE IS CURRENTLY ALLOW BY RIGHT IN THE EXISTING PD 18 ZONING.

THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DO, UM, DOES COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FOR DARCO? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR RASHAD IF I MAY.

SO THIS PROJECT IS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT, SIR? SO WHY DO THEY HAVE, DO THEY HAVE TO OR THEY JUST LIKE TO AMEND THE, THE FLU? THAT IS PART OF OUR PROCESS TO GET EVERYTHING IN LINE.

UM, SO IF WE IN THE PAST DID NOT DO THIS, LET'S SAY THE ZONING WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LANDS MAP, UM, AND THEY DID NOT DEVELOP, THEN IT'S STILL GONNA BE IN CONFLICT.

WE JUST TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN LINE WITH WHAT THE ACTUAL ZONING IS, AND THIS IS Y'ALL'S DECISION.

SO THIS WHAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE TO BE DEVELOPED AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ZONING'S ALREADY, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY, THE FUTURE LANGUAGE MAP CONFLICTS WITH THAT.

SO THIS IS JUST A MEANS TO CLEAN THAT UP.

SO IT'S TOTALLY JUST A CLEANUP THING BECAUSE , BECAUSE THIS USE IS ALREADY ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THAT PARCEL? YES.

GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

I LOOKED AT THAT MYSELF AND UM, 'CAUSE THE FLUE IS NOT A LAW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE, THE CITY HAS DEVELOPED FOR THE OVERALL, UH, PLAN OF THE CITY TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING COHESIVE.

CORRECT? FOR THE MOST PART.

UH, I'LL SAY THAT STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE ZONING ALIGN WITH ZONE CHANGES ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LANDS MAP UNLESS COUNCIL CHOOSES OTHERWISE.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE KIND OF HOPE FAST TO THAT, UM, AND MAKE THE DECISION Y'ALL'S, IT'S NOT FOR US TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT THANKS A BUNCH.

RASHAN.

YEAH, .

THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

SO THE SHAPE OF THE LOT IS, IS UNUSUAL MM-HMM .

AND THE, THE PART THAT GOES TO FISH CREEK, IS THAT ALSO IS THAT SAME PD AND STILL SAME, RIGHT? OR IS THAT, WAS THAT ADDED ON AS AN X? THERE'S SIMPLY BETWEEN DIFFERENT ZONINGS.

I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME DEVELOPED LIKE BUILDINGS ON THERE.

IT'S PROBABLY JUST, IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE.

SO IT TO IS ALREADY BY RIGHTS AVAILABLE TO BE BUILT ON WITH MULTIFAMILY ALREADY? WE'RE NOT.

I THINK SO.

FOR THE PARCELS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THEM, YES.

I THINK THEY'RE ALL PART OF PD 18.

I THINK REST OF THE LAND REMAINS STILL AS PD 18.

SO THOSE HOMES, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ON THOSE LOTS MM-HMM .

ARE ON, ARE OUT OF PLACE SORT OF.

WELL, P JUST BASED ON HOW THE PD IS P 18 DOES ALLOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES.

MULTIFAMILY JUST HAPPENS TO ONE OF THEM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, PD 18 DOES COVER THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG FISH CREEK.

GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

JUNE, WE HAVE ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE NO CARDS, BUT I BELIEVE JUNE SAID THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE PRESENT AND, OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I BELIEVE THIS IS COMMISSIONER MADDENS, UH, AREA DISTRICT

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TWO.

DO ANYBODY, COMMISSIONER, DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, DO, UH, WE NEED TO READ THE CARD OUT OR ANYTHING JUST TO, I, I HAVE NO CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

ANY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FRANK GONZALEZ.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU DON'T HAVE CARDS? YEAH.

ALL WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR BOTH IN ONE MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR CPA 2 5 0 3 DASH ZERO FIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZERO N 2 5 0 2 0 0 0 5 CONCEPT PLAN, BOTH FOR PROS, WEST CLIFF MULTIFAMILY PHASE TWO, AND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AS, UM, PRESENTED.

I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEMS THREE AND FOUR BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN.

UH, PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AMENDMENT AT 1 21 SOUTHEAST 14TH STREET.

NEXT CASE.

[5. SUP-25-02-0005 - Specific Use Permit Amendment - Hernandez Body Shop & Auto Sales (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit Amendment to amend SUP-815 to allow Auto Dealer (Wholesale) at an existing auto body and paint shop located at 121 SE 14TH Street. Lot 14, Block 1, S.B. Witherspoon Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Commercial (C) and addressed as 121 SE 14TH St]

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

UM, SO THERE IS AN EXISTING SUP FOR AN AUTO BODY AND PAINT SHOP, AND THE APPLICANT IS COMING FORWARD REQUESTING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL USE TO HIS OPERATIONS.

SO HE'S ASKING, UH, TO ADD AUTO DEALER WHOLESALE TO HIS OPERATIONS ITS OWN COMMERCIAL.

UM, SO AGAIN, UH, ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL USE, NOT TAKING THE ADDITIONAL OR THE CURRENT AUTO BODY AND PAINT AWAY.

JUST ADDING THE AUTO DEALER WHOLESALE TO HIS OPERATIONS.

UH, HE'S GONNA SELL, UH, CARS TO OTHER DEALERS OR WHOLESALE CAR DEALER AUCTIONS.

UH, HE WOULDN'T SELL DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, SO HE PLANS TO PURCHASE VEHICLES AT AUCTION, REPAIR THEM ON SITE, AND THEN RESELL THEM ONLINE AT AUCTIONS TO OTHER CAR DEALERS OR WHOLESALE DEALERS.

UH, THE REPAIRS WILL BE, UH, REPAIRS TO THE VEHICLE BE BE LIMITED TO WHAT'S ALLOWED BY AUTO BODY AND PAINT SHOP AND SUP EIGHT 15.

UH, SO THE SCREEN, UH, SHOWS HIS PARKING PLAN, UM, AND HE'S, UH, MEETING THE REQUIRED PARKING.

UH, WE BASE THAT ON A CALCULATION OF THREE PARKING SPACES PER SERVICE BAY, UH, PLUS ONE PER, UH, EMPLOYEE.

UH, SO HE'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 12.

HE'S PROPOSING 15 ON SITE.

UH, THERE ARE, UM, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, AND IF HE'S PLANNING TO UTILIZE THOSE, I WOULD BRING THAT NUMBER UP TO 19.

WE DO WANNA NOTE THAT IF HE INTENDS TO UTILIZE THOSE, HE MUST OBTAIN A LICENSE AGREEMENT TO USE THOSE PARKING SPACES.

UM, SO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

FIRST, THAT ALL EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE CURRENT SUP 8 1 15, UH, REGARDING THE AUTO BODY PAINT BOOTH SHALL REMAIN IN PLACE.

UH, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THE PARKING SPACES LOCATED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AUTO SALES SHALL BE LIMITED TO WHOLESALE, UH, VEHICLES SHALL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO THE PUBLIC.

PARKING OF THOSE VEHICLES, OR PARKING OF VEHICLES SHALL ONLY OCCUR IN DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES AND VEHICLES SHALL BE KEPT OUT OF THE FIRE LANE.

VEHICLE VEHICLES TO BE SOLD AT AUCTION SHALL BE STORED OFFSITE AT THE AUCTION INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IN THE PARKING SPACES DESIGNATED AS, UH, NINE THROUGH 16 ON THE PARKING PLAN.

AND THEN ANY REPAIRS TO VEHICLES MADE ON SITE SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE ACTIVITIES ALLOWED UNDER SUP 8 1 15.

UH, NO AUTO REPAIR MAIN, MINOR, OR MAJOR SHALL TAKE PLACE ON SITE.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

GOOD.

MR. MADDEN, IS THIS, UM, IS THIS THE MAZDA PERSON THAT CAME? NO, IT'S NOT.

OH, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

SITE, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE, I'M ASSUMING THAT IF THEY WERE DOING, THEY, THEY VIOLATE THE, UH, THE CODE Y YES.

AND THEN I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, HOW DO WE, UM, AS A CITY, UM, HAVE ANY KIND OF, UM, ASSURANCE THAT THAT PERSON TO PERSON SALES AREN'T GONNA BE MADE THERE VERSUS ONLY TO WHOLESALERS IF THE CARS ARE SITTING OUTSIDE, PARTICULARLY, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO THOSE WOULD BE, UH, PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF HIS COO.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE DOES HAVE AN AUTO RELATED BUSINESS, UH, PROGRAM WHERE, UH, THERE ARE INSPECTIONS, A COMBINATION OF CODE AND ENVIRONMENTAL THAT GO OUT THERE ONCE A YEAR.

UM, AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO REGISTER.

AND SO THAT IN ADDITION TO ROUTINE CODE, UM, VISITS WOULD, WOULD ENSURE THAT THEIR OPERATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SUP.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

OH, THAT IS REALLY? YEAH.

UH, ANY COMMISSIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSION FOR DARCO UH, MONICA, FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, WHAT, WHAT ARE REPAIRS UNDER SUP 8 1 15? AUTO BODY AND PAINT.

SO PREPARING, THAT'S IT.

JUST EXTERIOR, NOTHING ELSE? YES, NO ENGINE, NO MAJOR COMPONENT REPLACEMENT.

JUST GETTING, UH, THE BODY READY, UH, WITH PUTTY, SANDING AND PAINTING.

SO BASICALLY LIKE COMMISSIONER MADDEN SAID, IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, I WOULD HAVE TO, THEY'D HAVE TO CATCH 'EM DOING SOMETHING, DOING REPAIRS OR ANYTHING ON

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IF, IF CODE OFFICERS VISIT ONSITE AND FIND THAT THEY'RE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THAT SUP, UM, THEN WE WOULD TAKE ACTIONS TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THAT SUP.

BUT THE ONLY THING IS, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON THE FREQUENCY OF THE VISITS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A, A WIDE RANGE OF, OF BUSINESSES TO VISIT, THEY MAY BE OUT OF CODE, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME AND NOBODY WOULD EVER KNOW.

BUT MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY MM-HMM .

UM, IT'S TRUE, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF THEY SELL TO THE PUBLIC, THEY HAVE TO COLLECT SALES TAX ON THAT, WHEREAS IF THEY SELL DEALER TO DEALER, THEY DON'T, AND IF HE'S GONNA BE VIOLATING SALES TAX LAW, HE'S GONNA HAVE A LOT BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN A CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON.

SO I GUESS YOU HAVE MEANS TO KIND OF LIKE SPOT CHECK THAT BASICALLY.

RASHAD, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT? YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD? ? NO, MA'AM.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SAVANNAH.

WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE DO.

THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT, UH, MARCO SOTO AND WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

SIR, COME ON.

NO PROBLEM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME'S MARK ANTONIO SOTO.

UH, THE ADDRESS IS 1 21 SOUTHEAST 14TH STREET, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.

THANK YOU FOR COMING, SIR.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

SO, UM, YOU'D LIKE TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS A LITTLE BIT.

YOU CAN GIVE US A REASON WHY YOU WANNA DO THAT.

UH, MAY I? YES.

UH, WHAT DID STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR? MY NAME IS, UH, JUAN GARCIA.

UM, ADDRESS IS THE SAME AS WELL THAT, UM, 1 21, UM, SOUTHEAST 14TH STREET, UM, IN GRAND PRAIRIE, I'M ASSUMING IN GRAND PRAIRIE? YES, MA'AM.

UM, SO, UH, MR. MARCO AND HIS BROTHER, UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS FOR, FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW, OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS IN IRVING.

THEY RECENTLY JUST MOVED OVER HERE TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

THEY WERE, UH, OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY PROPERTY HERE IN, IN THE UNITED CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO THEY GO AHEAD AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, UH, MADE THE PLUNGE AND NOW THEY'RE WILLING TO, THEY'RE WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS.

THEY DID IT BEFORE IN THE OTHER LOCATION.

THEY NEVER HAD ANY CODE PROBLEMS. UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO IS TECHNICALLY JUST IMPLEMENT THE SAME BUSINESS MODEL THEY HAD BEFORE, JUST IMPLEMENT IT HERE IN THE, IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO HOW MANY YEARS WERE THEY IN BUSINESS IN IRVING? UH, ROUGHLY, YEAH, ROUGHLY 10 YEARS.

YES MA'AM.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? MR. GARCIA, WHERE IS THE REPAIRS ACTUALLY HAPPENING? WHERE ARE THEY TAKING PLACE? SO THEY'RE INSIDE THE BUILDING, UH, IN THE, IN THE, THEY'RE, THEY ALREADY HAVE A ESTABLISHED BUILDING WITH A PAINT BOOTH.

AND YOU KNOW WHERE THEY WORK ON CARS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE BODY WORK, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

BUT THE OPERATIVE PARTS, THE AUTOMOTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO GET IT STARTED WHERE IT'S RUNNING, IS THAT HAPPENING AT THE SHOP IN IRVING? YEAH.

SO THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE ANYMORE.

SO THEY'RE FULLY FUNCTIONING HERE.

UH, AND THEN THEY ONLY, THEY ONLY WORK ON WHAT, WHAT IS CALLED REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, AUDI BODY SHOP.

THAT'S IT.

SO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ANYTHING DONE MECHANICALLY, THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, MECHANICALLY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING? YES.

SO THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, OUTSOURCE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.

GOOD QUESTION.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU BOTH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU NEED THE SPEAKER CARD.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, MR. GARCIA ALSO FILLED OUT A, A CARD AND WISHED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MA'AM? WE HAVE MORE CARDS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE 1, 2, 3 CARDS.

UM, RON STEWART, UM, CHECKED BOTH BOXES.

WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AND DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

ASHISH PATEL, UH, CHECKED BOTH BOXES.

WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AND DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT AND SARRAJ PATEL, UH, CHECKED BOTH BOXES.

WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM, BUT DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

WELL, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING FOR SUPPORT.

THAT MEANS A LOT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO COME AND, AND BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE THIS IS COMMISSIONER ARI'S, UH, DISTRICT? YES MA'AM.

ARE YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE SUP 2 5 2 0 5

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PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE BY COMMISSIONER OTARI AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCKY.

[6. SUP-25-02-0007 - Specific Use Permit - United Contractor Services (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for a Contractor Shop with Outside Storage on 1.087 acres. Tract 4, Charles Gibbs Survey, Abstract No. 534, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Commercial (C) District, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1214 S Carrier Pkwy]

NEXT CASE PLEASE.

AND STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER SIX, BE TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING.

DO I HAVE TO DO ANY MOTION? YES MA'AM.

YOU NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM SIX SUP 2 5 0 2 0 0 0 7.

UH, FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR SHOP FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE.

SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MYSELF, CHERYL SMITH TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SIX AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FKO.

AND MA'AM, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THAT TO MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH, TABLE TO THE APRIL 14TH TO, TO THE NEXT MEETING.

APRIL 14TH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SUP 25 0 3 0 0 1 3.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION PASSES TO TABLE TO NEXT MEETING.

APRIL 14TH, 2025.

THANK YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX.

[7. SUP-25-03-0013 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - StudioRes by Marriott (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a four-story extended stay hotel with 118 rooms on 2.04 acres. Lots 1 & 2, Block 1, Securlock Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned C, within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay Districts, and addressed as 4640 & 4650 S Hwy 360]

THIS IS A STUDIO RE BY MARRIOTT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT, UM, WE DID INCLUDE ONE OPPOSITION LETTER IN THE PACKET.

WE RECEIVED, UM, ADDITIONAL LETTERS.

I HAVE PRINTED A FEW COPIES.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS IT ALONG.

IF YOU COULD READ AND PASS.

WAS TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

NOT PRINT NINE COPIES.

, I'LL SUMMARIZE THE COMMENTS, UM, DURING MY PRESENTATION ANYWAY.

THEY ARE PROVIDING LANDSCAPING.

SO THE ITEM FOR THE SUP SITE PLAN IS FOR A STUDIO REST BY MARRIOTT.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THIS LOCATION, UH, KIND OF SOUTH OF KINGSWOOD AND TO THE EAST OF HIGHWAY 360.

THE, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED THE COMMERCIAL AND THE UH, LOT IS ABOUT TWO ACRES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS BUILDING KIND OF NEXT TO THE EXISTING STORAGE AND EMERGENCY CENTERS.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THERE'S A DAYCARE CENTER HERE.

SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A MID-SCALE EXTENDED STATE HOTEL THAT ARE ABOUT FOUR STORIES WITH ONE 18 ROOMS. BASED ON THE, UH, LOCK DENSITY AND DIMINISH REQUIREMENT OF THE C, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCES FOR THE HEIGHT AND THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.

THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO 28 FEET.

THIS IS DUE TO THE EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CONNECTS THE PROPERTY TO THE ADJACENT LAND.

SO THIS, UM, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.

HERE'S THE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

THEY DO HAVE A PORT RICOCHET AND A WATER FEATURE.

THIS IS THE KIND OF A, GENERALLY THE PARKING AREA BEHIND THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS.

THEY ARE USING BRICK, UM, BASE IN A STUCCO AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO THE CONCENTRATION WISE, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER HOTELS WITHIN THAT ONE MILE.

I THINK THE NEAREST ONE IS PROBABLY ALONG THE BURDEN.

SO THEY ARE IN, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER EXTENDED STAY HOTELS EITHER IN THIS ONE MILE.

SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ALL TIER ONE AMENITIES AND ITEM B AND C FROM TIER TWO AMENITIES, THEY ARE PROVIDING EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE POOL.

THE POOL HAS BEEN KIND OF A COMMON REQUEST BECAUSE WE DO REQUIRE 3000 SQUARE FEET OF WATER SURFACE, WHICH IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

SO THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE COMMON VARIANCES THAT OTHER HOTEL DEVELOPERS HAS ASKED.

THE, UH, STUDIO RES BY AREA, THEIR BRANDING IS THAT THEY WANT TO NOT PROVIDE THE TYPICAL BREAKFAST OPTIONS.

INSTEAD, WHAT THEY TRY TO DO IS ENCOURAGE THE BUSINESS TO CONNECT WITH LOCAL RESTAURANTS FOR MORE OF A FOOD DELIVERY AND PICK UP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO PROVIDE NO MEAL SERVICES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PART OF TIER ONE REQUIREMENT AND ALSO TIER TWO REQUIREMENT FOR ANY, UM, EXTENDED STAY HOTELS.

THEY ARE PROVIDING THE OUTDOOR COMMON AREA.

SO HERE ARE THE SUMMARY OF THE VARIANCES.

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UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING A LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO BE REDUCED BY TWO FEET TO KEEP THE EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT IS THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO TIER ONE AMENITIES TO PROVIDE NO POOLS AND NO MEAL SERVICES.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE TIER TWO AMENITIES TO PROVIDE NO MEAL SERVICES.

THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO TO BE INCREASED IN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING TO BE INCREASED.

SO AGAIN, UM, THE COPY OF THE, UH, OPPOSITION LETTERS THAT YOU RECEIVE.

UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS FROM NINE UNIQUE ADDRESSES.

AND SOME OF THE SHARED COMMON CONCERN THAT WERE EXPRESS IS THE PROXIMITY TO THE DAYCARE CENTER, KIND OF MARKED WITH THIS ORANGE AND, UH, ELEMENTARY STREET SCHOOL.

AND, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME STORAGE UNITS BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE GENERALLY THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED HOTEL.

AND THEY ARE ALSO, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE INCREASED TRAFFIC.

THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERAL CRIME ASSOCIATED WITH NOT SO WELL MAINTAINED HOTELS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN SOME OF THE LETTERS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO POINT THAT OUT AGAIN.

HERE ARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THOSE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

ONE THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE ONE ADDITIONAL AMENITY IN PLACE OF THE REQUIRED POOL, SUCH AS A SHARED OFFICE SPACE OR COVERED OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS.

THESE DAYS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK AND TRAVEL.

SO IF THEY COULD HAVE LIKE A SHARED OFFICE, LARGE COMMON AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR LAPTOP FROM THEIR UNIT AND SIT DOWN AND WORK ON THEM, UM, MAYBE THAT COULD BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO HAVING A POOL BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY MAY WANT TO SIT NEXT TO POOLSIDE WHEN THEY'RE WORKING.

UM, THE SECOND CONDITION IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A LIST OF LOCAL RESTAURANTS THAT WILL PARTNER WITH THE MARRIOTT.

IF THEY SAY THAT'S THEIR BRANDING MODEL, THEN WE WANNA SEE THAT LIST TO BE PROVIDED BEFORE, UH, THEY CAN PROCEED.

AND WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE AT THE FRONT BE DEDICATED TO DROP OFFS BECAUSE I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, DELIVERING FOOD SERVICES AT THAT LOCATION RATHER THAN DRIVING TO THESE RESTAURANTS.

AND THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THAT IT DOES NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM FLOOR, UH, AREA RATIO.

THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

UM, AT THIS TIME, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER MAD? I DO.

DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, FLOOR PLAN RENDERINGS OR, OR MIGHT THEY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED HERE.

I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY KITCHENETTE IN THERE.

IF IT'S AN EXTENDED STAY IN, IN THE INDIVIDUAL ROOMS? YES, THERE ARE.

SO ACTUALLY, SORRY.

UM, THAT WAS THE PART OF THE STAFF REPORT.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE FLOOR PLACED.

UH, LIKE OTHER HOTELS SOMETIMES PROVE YEAH.

THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THAT.

HOWEVER, BASED ON THEIR MODEL, THEY DO HAVE A SUITE WITH A COMPLETE KITCHEN.

SUITABLE FOR LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY THAT WILL HAVE A FURNISHED, THOROUGHLY FURNISHED ROOMS AND KITCHEN.

UM OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO YES, THEY HAVE LIKE A CABINET AND KITCHEN AND WORKING TABLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF A NEWER TRENDS I MM-HMM .

FEEL LIKE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTIAL STUDIO TYPE HOTEL PROPOSED.

AND THEN ALSO, CAN YOU REMIND ME, UM, THE RULES ABOUT FENCES THAT ARE, ARE THEY REQUIRED AROUND HOTELS? SO THEY'RE REQUIRED ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, I GUESS THAT'S RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE, UM, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.

IF THEY'RE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY HAVE PREPARED THEIR OWN PRESENTATION.

I'LL ASK THEM.

THE FATHER FOR THEIR ONES.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FOR DARCO.

UM, UM, SO YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T.

IT'S OKAY.

HEAR IT'S, WHAT IS THE BUILDING DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH? SO I BELIEVE THAT IS A, UH, HOSPITAL, LIKE A EMERGENCY CARE CENTER.

, HOW HIGH IS IT? I BELIEVE IT'S A ONE STORY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN ONE STORY.

OH, IS IT? TWO STORY? IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS MULTI-TIERED ON THE SATELLITE IMAGE.

UH, AND, UM, I GUESS, SO THE UDC DEFINITION OF EXTENDED STAY MEANS THERE'S A KITCHENETTE OF SOME KIND IN THE ROOM.

SO WE, UM, WHATEVER THE HOTELS THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR A LONG-TERM STAY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THOSE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

'CAUSE MY PREVIOUS CITY HAD LIKE STOVE TOP OR COOKTOP.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S REALLY INCLUDING THERE.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE STUDIO, REST THEIR WEBSITE, THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPLAINED.

THEY'RE TARGETED FOR EXTENDED STAY OF 30 DAYS OR CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

IS UH, NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR RASHAD.

THE BIG OLD STINK ABOUT EXTENDED STAY HOTELS? AND I DO NOT RECALL THAT.

WERE YOU WORKING FOR THE CITY WHEN CHIEF DYE RAISED

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YOU DON'T RECALL THAT? NO.

SO PROBABLY NOT .

I'M SORRY.

PROBABLY NOT.

I, I DON'T, IF I DON'T REMEMBER IT, I, I PROBABLY WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THAT.

THIS IS MY DISTRICT, SO I'M VERY WELL AWARE OF WHERE IT IS.

IT'S DOWN THE STREET.

UM, SO WAS THERE, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

'CAUSE UM, THAT'S A PART OF BEACON HILL, HOA AND THAT'S I IN BEACON HILL.

I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YES MA'AM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JIM? YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

JUNE.

IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, SCHOOL MM-HMM .

ARE THERE ANY CITY RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW FAR OR CLOSE IT MIGHT BE IN SOME OF THE OPPOSITION NOTES INDICATED? THEIR CONCERN REGARDING THEIR YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT HOTEL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH OUR ALCOHOL SALES FOR NOT FOR HOTEL.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE IN THAT, IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY.

'CAUSE I DO LIVE IN BEACON HILL.

UH, THANK YOU JUNE.

SPEAKER CARDS, UH, THE APPLICANT OR THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE APPLICANT? JERRY SLO WITH GB JBI PARTNERS, WHICH IS THE SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

SORRY, I THINK HE FILLED THAT A WRONG NUMBER.

THAT'S FOR, SORRY.

RIVER VAN OUTSIDE OF NUMBER EIGHT.

MY APOLOGIES.

WE HAVE NO CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

THE PREVIOUS CARD ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, AGAIN, THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT, OH, I THINK MR. PATEL WAS THERE.

THAT'S IT.

? MM-HMM .

PAT, ARE WE STILL ON SPEAKER CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? ARE WE? YES.

ITEM SEVEN.

SO, UM, YES, WE HAVE TWO CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

ASHISH PATEL AND SARRAJ PATEL WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

UH, THEY WERE INCORRECTLY CALLED FOR ITEM NUMBER, UH, FIVE.

FIVE FIVE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WE'D LIKE HIM TO COME UP.

UM, WHOEVER'S GONNA BE THE SPOKESMAN OR YOU CAN BOTH COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, WHOEVER SPEAKS, WE CAN TRANSFER THAT SPEAKER COURT.

BUT THERE'S THE PRESENTATION YOU GUYS SENT.

HELLO? UM, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ISH PATEL.

7 3 2 6 DURAN DRIVE.

UM, 7 5 0 6 3.

CITY OF OF WHERE? IRVING.

IRVING.

SARRAJ PATEL, 3 0 1 5.

DAN COURT DRIVE.

7 5 0 6 3.

CITY OF IRVING? YES.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A THIRD SPEAKER CARD TOO FOR RON.

UM, IT WAS PRESENTED ON CASE NUMBER FIVE, AND I HAVE THAT THIRD RON STEWART, UM, WHICH IS TOPE SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE ASK QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS PROJECT? THE REASON THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO US? SO WE'D LIKE TO FIRST AND FOREMOST START OFF WITH, UM, THANKING YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE ISD CONCERN.

UH, BEFORE WE STARTED ANY PLANS ON THIS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, WE MADE SURE TO REACH OUT TO ARLINGTON, ISD, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.

I BELIEVE THAT LETTER WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.

IN, UM, THEIR REGARDS OF THEIR SUPPORT FOR, UH, THE HOTEL.

UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS OF THE PROXIMITY, HOWEVER, THAT WAS OUR FIRST CONCERN AS WELL.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS OKAY WITH THE ISD.

UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST.

UM, ASIDE FROM THERE, I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

MY CONCERN I LIVE IN, IN, IN THAT AREA.

AND BEACON HILL, UH, DO NOT BELIEVE YOU, YOU CONSULTED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION? I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HAS CONTACTED ME ABOUT A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, A HOTEL IN THAT, IN OUR AREA, BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS, AND I HAD RESIDENTS TO CALL ME MY HOMEOWNER.

MY, UH, FELLOW HOMEOWNERS CALLING ME COMPLAINING BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN, IN OTHER AREAS LIKE ARLINGTON, OTHER AREAS, THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE STAY HOTELS, UH, CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN WE HAVE DAY, WE HAVE A DAYCARE MM-HMM .

AS WELL THERE.

AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND YOU KNOW, WITH THE KIDS ARE TOO CLOSE, THE PROXIMITY IS JUST WAY TOO CLOSE.

I WANNA SAY IF, UH, JUST CONFIRMING, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE BEACON, HOA.

UH, CUSTOMER SEGMENT THAT IS ATTRACTED TO THIS CURRENT BRAND, WHICH IS AFFILIATED WITH MARRIOTT.

UM, AND I, WHO'S BEACON HILL? BEACON HILL, HOA MM-HMM .

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AN O OVERSIGHT ON US, BUT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SCHEDULE, UM, AN OPEN DISCUSSION TO HEAR OUT THE CONCERNS.

UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A CONCERN FOR THE DAYCARE AS WELL.

UM, AND AS YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED ON PREVIOUS OCCURRENCES WITH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DAYCARES, UM, AND, UM, CONCERNS OF CRIME AND SUCH.

BUT I DO BELIEVE, UM, THE DIFFERENTIATOR HERE IS THE BRAND AFFILIATION AND THE,

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UM, AND I THINK, UM, RON IS A GREAT PERSON TO SPEAK.

THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I, I HAD IN CONCERN WITH THE, THE, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE TO GET TO PUT THAT HOTEL IN , IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH SPACE IN THAT AREA.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MUCH, UH, LAND AROUND IT.

UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE, UM, IF WE HAVE THE, THE PLANS AVAILABLE AND TO, I CAN GO, SIR, COME ON UP PLEASE.

UH, EVENING RON STEWART.

UM, 3 3 0 9 O CALO DRIVE, PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 9 3.

IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN.

UM, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY, UH, ALREADY HAVE THREE HOTELS IN YOUR FINE TOWN.

TWO OF WHICH ARE OPEN, ONE OF WHICH IS APPROVED, TWO OF WHICH ARE EXTENDED STAY.

SO IT'S, UH, GOOD TO BE BACK IN, IN SUPPORT OF MAVERICK HERE AND THIS, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT HERE.

SO CAN YOU JUST STATE FOR SIMPLICITY WHAT, WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE THAT ARE IN? YEAH.

TWO ARE IN YOUR, UH, YOUR PLATINUM CORRIDOR THERE, KIND OF NEAR YOUR EPIC, UH MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE RESIDENCE IN JUST SOUTH OVER BY THE MAIN EVENT, THE COURTYARD, WHICH IS KIND OF ACROSS MM-HMM .

GEORGE BUSH, UH, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF, UH, THE HIGHWAY FROM YOUR EPIC CENTER.

AND THEN THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE.

AND THEN OUR, UH, APPROVED HOTEL IS ACTUALLY JUST SOUTH, SOUTH OF THIS CORRIDOR BACK JUST SOUTH OF RAGLAND.

KIND OF ON THE MANSFIELD, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE LINE.

AND THAT IS THE TOWN PLACE SUITES, WHICH IS KIND OF ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY OFFERING THAT'S APPROVED.

SO, BUT TO YOUR QUESTION ON THE, UH, SIZE, OUR PROTOTYPE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A FEW MORE ROOMS THAN WHAT, WHAT OUR OWNERSHIP GROUP IS PROPOSING IF IT SITS ON 1.6 ACRES.

SO IF THIS IS A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES NOW, NOT KNOWING SOME OF THE SETBACKS AND SUCH.

SO IT, IT DEFINITELY DOES, IT DEFINITELY DOES FIT.

IT'S VERY EFFICIENT.

AND, UM, EVEN, EVEN WITH THE ADDED SORT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE, 'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY DIALED UP CONSIDERABLY, THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THIS TO SORT OF ACCOMMODATE, UM, THE TOWN'S KIND OF VISION.

SO, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, I WE JUST HAVE CONCERNS.

LIKE I SAID, I, IT'S KIND OF A BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND IT'S QUIET AND WE WANNA KEEP IT THAT WAY.

SO I HAVE HAD A LOT OF OPPOSITION, UH, WITH REGARD TO THIS PROJECT, SO YEAH.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.

I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPOT ON.

THIS GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT I, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD OF WHAT, UH, OUR HOTELS ARE DOING IN YOUR TOWN TODAY, ONE OF WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS INN, WHICH IS JUST AN UPSCALE VERSION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

IT'S KIND OF UP THE FOOD CHAIN.

BUT YOU LOOK AT, LOOK AT THAT TRACK RECORD, LOOK AT SEEING WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH THAT.

I, I'D PROBABLY BE VERY SURPRISED THAT YOU'D SEE ANY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY SPREAD OUT ACROSS DIFFERENT TIERS IN THE EXTENDED STAY SECTOR, AND WE HAVE ACROSS ALL TOWNS, NOT JUST DFW, BUT ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND, UH, REALLY, UH, INCLUDING CANADA, RIGHT.

WHERE WE'VE GOT DISTRIBUTION.

SO I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR ME, ALONG WITH MY OTHER HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA IS THAT THERE WAS NO, UH, CONVERSATION SURE.

UH, GETTING TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE BEEN THERE OVER OVER 25 YEARS.

AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING TO OUR AREA WITH A DAYCARE AND A SCHOOL AND AN EMERGENCY ROOM RIGHT THERE, THAT IT'S A BIT MUCH YEAH.

YOU KNOW, FOR THAT AREA.

AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A, MAYBE IT'S JUST SOME, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROBABLY WAS A BIT OF A OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF CAPITALIZE AND SHARE SOME OF THAT EDUCATION WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS MM-HMM .

BUT, UH, BUT I THINK ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF CUSTOMER THAT'LL GO IN THERE, THE PROFILE OF THE CUSTOMER MM-HMM.

THE RATES THAT THEY'RE PAYING, UH, I THINK IT'LL BE PROBABLY, IT'LL DEFINITELY HAVE, HAVE TO BE INFORMATION, SOME CONVERSATION INFORMATION.

I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE OPPOSITION LETTERS HERE.

THAT'S QUITE A FEW.

SO I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE RECKONED WITH.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES.

LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

I WILL TELL YOU, UM, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, I AM PLATINUM LIFETIME WITH MARRIOTT.

I LOVE MARRIOTT, PROBABLY.

SO I, IN SAYING THAT, I, I WANT TO ASK, UH, I'M AN EDUCATOR BY TRADE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THE SCHOOL, THE ISD SANCTIONED, THIS EVENT, I WANT TO KNOW WHO DID YOU SPEAK WITH IN THE, IN THE DISTRICT? WHO IS THE LETTER FROM? DO YOU KNOW? I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT NAME AND I'M ASSUMING YOU MEAN GRAND PRAIRIE, ISD? CORRECT? NO, THAT'S ARLINGTON.

ARLINGTON.

IT'S ARLINGTON.

ARLINGTON, ISD.

UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT SUP, I MEAN TO NO, YES.

TO THE, UH, UM, THE HEAD OF THE WHOLE, UH, ARLINGTON.

ISD YEAH.

THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SO WE DID, UH, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND THEN THE LETTER WAS ACTUALLY SIGNED BY THE, UM, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF FACILITY SERVICES.

THIS, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT MADAM CHAIR HAS SAID.

AND THEN I, I WILL SAY THIS, UM, I AM NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT

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BUT IF I LOOK AT, FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T TELL US WHO'S COMING INSIDE YOUR VENUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE BEING A, A TRANSIENT KIND OF PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING FOR A LENGTH OF TIME.

THEY'RE PROBABLY WORKERS, CONSTRUCTION FOLKS.

I DON'T KNOW, KNOW WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF SANCTION THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE THAT CLOSE TO A SCHOOL OR THAT CLOSE TO A DAYCARE THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

AND FOR THAT REASON AND THAT REASON ALONE, I'M SORRY I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT, BUT I THANK YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING MARRIOTT HERE.

I THANK YOU FOR THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN OUR CITY.

I DO HOPE THAT YOU CAN DO A, A PROJECT THAT ISN'T SO CLOSE TO A SCHOOL IN A DAYCARE FACILITY BECAUSE WE DO WANT YOU TO BE HERE.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, COMMISSIONER FOR DARCO.

UM, SO FOR THE SPEAKER.

YES, SIR.

WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PATEL BROTHERS? UH, SO I'M THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR MARRIOTT AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO KIND OF OVERSEE.

SO YOU ARE FOR MARRIOTT? YES, SIR.

AND MAVERICK, I, HOSPITALITY, MA MAVERICK IS ONE OF OUR OURS FRANCHISEES? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.

I, I LIKE THE MARRIOTT PRODUCT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR A LOT OF VARIANCES AND DIDN'T DO ANY OUTREACH.

IT'S A BAD LOOK.

YOU SURE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE DOA AND, AND I CAN'T ASK YOU GUYS FOR A FUTURE VOTE, BUT IS IT IN, I MEAN, I, THESE GUYS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE HARD WORK AND I LOVE THE MARRIOTT PRODUCT.

CAN WE, CAN WE GIVE THEM, UM, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED, A TABLING AND LET THEM 'CAUSE YOU THEY NEED TO DO THEIR WELL, UNLESS YOU WANNA KILL A MADAM CHAIR AT WELL, I, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY BECAUSE I HAVE HAD, UH, LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM MY FELLOW HOMEOWNERS.

ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE AND SEVERAL THAT I HAVE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS.

AND, UM, I, THAT'S WHERE I LIVE AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THOSE CHILDREN, UH, THE CHILDREN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT WE WANNA PROTECT.

AND THAT IS NOT, THAT IS A NO GO FOR ME.

SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO TABLE IT.

UH, THEY MAY WANNA BRING IT BACK IN ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT THAT LOCATION DOES NOT WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT DO YOU WANT ON THAT PIECE OF DIRT? I DON'T, UM, QUEEN ACTUALLY.

UM, THAT'S A HARD AREA 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT OFF THE FREEWAY THERE, YOU KNOW? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I CAN'T BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH, WE HAVE THE EMERGENCY ROOM ON THE CORNER, WE HAVE THE DAYCARE AND A STORAGE.

THAT'S A LOT RIGHT IN THERE.

WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A, A PARK, I MEAN, OR SOMETHING, UH, UH, LAID BACK FOR THE CITIZENS.

I MEAN, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, THERE'S A, IT IS LOT OF BUSY AND THAT'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC GOING, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, PARENTS COMING AND GOING FOR THE DAYCARE, THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

AND IT'S A PROFESSIONAL, UH, DOCTOR'S OFFICE AS WELL.

I'M NOT TRYING, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER ON THAT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH YOU, BUT SOMEBODY PAID SOME MONEY FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT'S ON FRONTAGE ROAD AND I DON'T THINK THEY INTEND FOR IT TO BE FALLOW FOREVER.

WELL, THAT IS TRUE.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE RESIDENTS OF BEACON HILL AS WELL.

I'M ONLY ONE RESIDENT OF BEACON HILL, BUT AT THIS POINT I, I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A GOAL FOR, FOR ME PERSONALLY.

I MEAN, YOU, THE, THE, THE BEAUTY OF A P AND Z IS THAT EVERYBODY CAN, CAN VOTE.

I ONLY HAVE ONE.

THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT? YES.

THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING YOU.

THEY'RE NOT CALLING.

YEAH, THEY'RE CALLING ME AND THEY'RE CALLING ME.

THEY'RE DEPENDING ON ME TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS GOES BACK, UH, FOR, FOR MORE VIEWING.

UH, AND THEN ALSO I DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN JOHN LOPEZ, WHO IS OUR COUNCILMAN.

AND HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

AND HE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SET UP A MEETING, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK AT THIS POINT TO PROVE, UH, FROM ME.

NOW.

WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE FROM COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, UM, UH, SO THE PATELS, DO YOU GUYS OWN ANY OTHER PROPERTIES? I ASSUME THIS IS A FRANCHISE SITUATION, RIGHT? AND SO DO YOU, HAVE YOU ANY OTHER EXPERIENCE WITH HOTELS? IS THIS YOUR FIRST GO? SO, UH, MAVERICK, UM, HAS BEEN IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.

UM, HAVE G SEEDED, UM, 20 PLUS PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF, UM, THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN OWNING, OPERATING, MANAGING OUR OWN PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A LONG TIME AND, UM, SOMETHING WE HOLD OURSELVES TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD FOR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES IN GRAND PRAIRIE, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? NO, NO, NOT IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

ABOUT, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR A FENCE.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD HERE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MIGHT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

UM, AND AS WE SPOKE TO THE, UM, THE CITY

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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ENTERTAIN TO, TO, YOU KNOW, SOOTHE THE CONCERNS OF THE AREA RESIDENTS? JUST THAT YOU WON'T HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE DAYCARE OR THE SCHOOL FROM YOUR PROPERTY? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ENTERTAIN? I IT WON'T LOCK YOU INTO IT, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW.

'CAUSE THAT COULD HELP YOUR CASE.

I MEAN, THERE'S AN EXPENSE TO THAT AND I'M IMAGINING IT WOULD BE, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD BE A, OPPOSED TO ANYTHING.

WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH, UM, THE CITY AND, AND THE PEOPLE AROUND IT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO I WONDERED, IS THERE ANY, AND I'M, I DON'T STAY, AND, AND YOU GOTTA KNOW TOO, SOME OF THE OTHER, YOUR COMPETITION HAS BAD, YOU KNOW, REPUTATION, EXTENDED STAY.

UM, IS THERE ANY LIMITATION ON THE LENGTH OF A STAY OR IS, COULD IT BE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS JUST DEPENDENT UPON THE NEED OF THE, OF THE PERSON? YEAH, NO, IT, IT COULD, IT'S, IT'S TIERED THAT WAY TO STAY FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.

OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S NOT INTENDED TO LIVE PERMANENTLY THOUGH.

SO I THINK IT'S NOT, UH, SET UP TO BE TRANSIENT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE 118 PEOPLE IN EVERY DAY.

AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, 118 PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY.

THE LENGTH OF STAY IS, IS, IS REALLY GONNA BE VARIED, BUT MM-HMM .

BUT THE TARGET IS SOMEWHERE ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS.

AND DO, IS IT STANDARD OR IS IT PERMISSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO STAY? DO THEY RECEIVE MAIL THERE OR DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS OTHERWISE? BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD MAKE THAT THEIR HOME.

UH, YEAH, IF, IF IT'S, IT IS PROBABLY INTERIM.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM, LET'S SAY, COLORADO AND MOVING HERE MM-HMM .

AND USING THE, USING THE FACILITY AS AN INTERIM HOME.

THEY MAY HAVE MAIL FORWARDED, BUT IT'D BE VERY TEMPORARY.

AND DO YOU KNOW, UM, JUST ACROSS THE BOARD WITH YOUR PRODUCTS, DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THE, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHICS, LIKE THE PROFESSIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE WHO NORMALLY STAY AT EXTENDED STATES? I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO WE KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT ACROSS OUR BRANDS, I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL KIND OF PROFESSIONAL FOLKS IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM TRAVELING.

NURSES COULD BE FAMILIES THAT ARE RELOCATING MM-HMM .

AND FROM OUT OF TOWN, IT COULD BE FOLKS HERE ON A PROJECT ASSIGNMENT, COULD BE FOLKS HERE, KIND OF BUILDING WAREHOUSES.

I MEAN, IT REALLY IS VERY COULD PEOPLE COMING IN TO DO AUDITS? I MEAN, SO IT'S TYPICALLY BLENDED.

UH, REALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE NEAT THAT ARE GONNA BE IN A MARKETPLACE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING AROUND YOU, AROUND THE LOCATION THAT YOU GUYS WOULD FIND NEGATIVE TO SUPPORT YOUR HOTEL? I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW, HOW THERE'S THE HOTEL WOULD BE NEGATIVE TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEE AS A CHALLENGE FOR THE HOTEL? IS THAT FOR ME? EITHER.

ANY OF YOU? YEAH.

NO, I, I DON'T THINK SO.

'CAUSE THE ACCESS IS FINE.

I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT CORRIDOR MM-HMM .

NOT JUST YOUR TOWN, BUT GO FURTHER SOUTH TO MANSFIELD AND, AND GIVING THAT EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AND RESIDENTIAL GROWTH.

HAVING A, HAVING THIS TYPE OF FACILITY WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR SORT OF HELPING FOLKS KIND OF HAVE A TEMPORARY PLACE BEF WHILE THEIR HOMES ARE BEING SET UP.

SO, AND IF I MAY MAKE ONE COMMENT, MADAM CHAIRPERSON, JUST TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THE SCHOOL PORTION AND THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, I GO BACK, UH, IT'S BEEN NOW PROBABLY FIVE YEARS, BUT WHEN WE DID THE COURTYARD PROJECT ON 1 61, KIND OF OPPOSITE THE HIGHWAY FROM YOUR EPIC, BEFORE THE EPIC WAS EVEN THERE, UM, THAT HOTEL BACKS UP TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ONE.

AND THAT HOTEL IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF A SCHOOL ALSO AS WELL.

SO THAT'S A TRANSIENT HOTEL.

IT'S DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOTEL, BUT NONETHELESS MM-HMM .

THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING IN MM-HMM .

THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING OUT.

THERE'S A FENCE TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT HOW TO PROTECT IT FROM, AND THE PROXIMITY OF WHERE THIS ONE IS, UH, COMPARED TO THE COURTYARD SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

'CAUSE THE COURTYARD, LITERALLY, THEIR PARKING LOT BACKS UP TO THE, TO A ROW OF HOUSES.

I DO UNDERSTAND.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT WE ARE A CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NOT THAT LARGE.

AND SO FOR US TO, FOR THEM TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP ON THIS AS SOON AS THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, SPEAKS VOLUMES.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND SO IT IS A, IT IS A NO RIGHT NOW FOR ME.

SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

DOES MARRIOTT STIPULATE THAT THE ROOM RATE CAN'T BE BELOW X AT A STUDIO RES? NO, THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SET UP GUIDELINES, WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR OWNERS AND OUR OPERATORS.

BUT, BUT THEY WOULD TYPICALLY CONTROL THAT.

WHAT'S THE GUIDELINE FOR STUDIO RES, FOR ? UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN A DR WISE, PROBABLY ONE TO ONE 20, A HUNDRED TO $120 A NIGHT.

SO ARE THEY ALSO GIVEN A PRESENTATION? I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT A PRESENTATION THAT'S ON OUR SCREEN? YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK, UH, MS. JUNE SHOWED, I THINK.

WE, SHE SENT IT TO ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HINT.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA, ALL YOU HAVE IS 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT, SO I'M NOT SURE TIME WISE, ARE WE KEEPING UP WITH THE TIME ON THIS? WELL, THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.

SO I, OKAY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO, HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO I BELIEVE IT ALIGNS PRETTY CLOSELY TO WHAT WAS SHOWN, UM, OKAY.

BEFORE WE

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CAME UP ON.

WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE HAVE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? LUCKY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MADAM CHAIR, OUR, OUR STAFF.

DO WE KNOW THE DISTANCE, UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ANOTHER PROPERTY.

DO WE KNOW THE DISTANCE FROM DUBISKI CAREER HIGH SCHOOL TO THE MARRIOTT PROPERTY, UM, VERSUS THE PROPOSED, UM, MARRIOTT PROPERTY TO THE SCHOOL? THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.

SO THEY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE.

DO WE KNOW THE DISTANCE? THEY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE.

SO ONE PROPERTY ENDS AND THE OTHER ONE IS ADJACENT TO IT.

SO DUBISKI CAREER HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION, WHAT IS THE DISTANCE TO THE SCHOOL? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE DISTANCE IS.

I BELIEVE THEY CHERYL PROPERTY LINE AS WELL.

IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION.

THEY'RE ON THE SAME DRIVE OUT, ENTERING IN ON THIS.

THEY WOULD SHARE A DRIVE OUT WHERE YOU'RE GETTING TO THE DAYCARE IN QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, ACTUALLY.

REAL QUICK.

UM, IN, IN PAST PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN LIKE, HOW MANY OF THIS LEVEL CAN BE IN THE CITY AND THIS LEVEL AND THIS LEVEL.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN, OR DID I MISS IT IN THIS PRESENTATION? YES, IT IS THIS WITHIN OUR ALLOWABLE YES.

IT, IT WAS PRESENTED.

ONLY THING IS THEY HAVE NO OTHER HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE, SO.

THEY'RE NOT, UM, THEY, THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER ONES.

SO THAT CHART WAS ONLY IF THEY WERE ALL NEARBY? YES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MR. PATEL.

DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ELSE? YOU WERE, UH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF TABLING AND COMING BACK.

I THINK WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE HOA, HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

UM, AND IF WE COME BACK TO IT AND THE DECISION IS WHAT THE, UM, COUNSEL IS TO DENY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND.

BUT, UM, I THINK ALL WE ASK FOR IS A CHANCE TO TABLE, UH, RECONVENE AND, UM, DECIDE FURTHER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS.

CARDS.

NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

UH, I SEE SOME, I I JUST ASSUMED WE HAD SPEAKER CARDS, UM, FOR, UH, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS FOR A MINUTE.

UM, YEAH, SORRY.

I, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD, I AM OFF ON CALL ON READING THESE SPEAKER CARDS TODAY.

YOU KNOW YOUR MOTIONS, BUT YOUR SPEAKER CARDS NEED SOME WORK.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, THERE YOU GO.

, WE HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

I JUST ASSUMED WE DID, BUT, UH, BASED WE DO OR WE DON'T.

WE DO NOT.

WE DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT.

OH, THERE'S A SPEAKER.

WAIT, IS THAT A, A ONE WE ARE GETTING NOW HERE, THERE'S ONE THAT'S OKAY.

I, I MATERIALIZE.

IS THAT FOR ITEM SEVEN? IT'S NOT FOR ITEM SEVEN, NO.

UM, THIS, THIS IS, UH, I, I, THIS DISTRICT FOUR IS MY DISTRICT.

AND, UM, I BE BASED ON THE NINE, UH, COMPLAINT FORMS. AND THEY'RE ALL SIMILAR.

UH, I HAVE STRONG OPPOSITION TO BRINGING IN A STAY HOTEL RIGHT NEXT TO A DAYCARE AND A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LESS KNOWN.

THE, UH, ER THAT'S, THAT'S THE EMERGENCY ROOM IS GONNA BE BUSY ENOUGH AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

PLUS THEY HAVE PROFESSIONAL, UH, BUILDING AS WELL FOR, FOR DOCTORS.

SO I, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND, UH, I, I STRONGLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO, UH, DENY THIS MOTION.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I MEAN, IF THAT WAS GONNA BE MY SAME, UH, QUESTION TO YOU WAS IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD TABLE AND ACTUALLY ALLOW THEM TO COME TO THE HOA AND SPEAK TO THEM, BECAUSE I MEAN, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE CONCERN IS THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO RIGHT.

ARE IN COMPLETE OPPOSITION OF ANYTHING BEING THERE BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY.

AND IF YOU READ THROUGH THE ITEMS ON THE COMPLAINTS I DID, YES.

I MEAN, SO I WOULD RATHER JUST, UH, JUST DENY THE MOTION AND THEN LET THEM COME BACK AND REGROUP.

BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMITMENT TO MY COMMUNITY.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

I'M THE ONE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HEAR EVERYTHING WHEN I GO HOME.

JOHN LOPEZ, AND HE AGREES WITH ME AS WELL, THAT THERE, THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVEN THE ARLINGTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF THEY DID APPROVE THAT, THEY SHOULD HAVE COME TO OUR COMMUNITY TO LET US KNOW THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE HAPPENING IN OUR AREA.

BECAUSE I HAVE GOTTEN QUITE A FEW CALLS.

I TALKED TO MY CITY COUNCILMAN

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SO THAT WAS NO, UH, THAT WAS NO COMING TOGETHER.

AND SO, I, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS, AND I JUST ASKED, I RESPECTFULLY ASKED THAT EVERYBODY WOULD, WOULD DENY THIS AND LET THEM COME BACK ON DIFFERENT TERMS AND MAY IN A DIFFERENT AREA.

BUT IT'S, AS FAR AS I KNOW, UNLESS YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OUT OF THE BLUE HAPPENS, I WAS BEEN TOLD POINT BLANK.

IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT.

WITH REGARD TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE IN MY COMMUNITY.

I HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

UH, MADDEN, UM, DO WE KNOW IF, IF THE PROPERTY, IF, IF THE PATELS OR THE MAVERICK GROUP ALREADY HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY? OR IS THAT STILL OUT FOR, IS THAT, IS IT PERSPECTIVE STILL? IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT.

GOOD QUESTION.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER FOR ? WHAT, UH, CHAPMAN GO FIRST.

I YOU HAVE ME CONFLICTED MADAM CHAIR.

IT IS YOUR DISTRICT.

I, IT, THERE'S NO QUESTION.

PEOPLE WROTE A LOT OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

UH, AND I DON'T LIKE TO VOTE AGAINST, AND I, I WON'T VOTE AGAINST, I'M NOT SAYING I WILL VOTE FOR, BUT I WON'T WANT VOTE AGAINST YOU.

BUT THEY MADE A MISTAKE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M, THEY MADE A MISTAKE AND THEY, THEY, THEY ABSOLUTELY DID A POOR JOB DEVELOPING THAT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE TO YOUR HOA HAT IN HAND SAYING, HERE'S OUR PLANS HERE.

HOW CAN WE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS? LET'S WORK SOMETHING OUT.

UM, I, IF, IF, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TELLING THEM NO NOW VERSUS TELLING 'EM NO TWO MONTHS FROM NOW WHEN THEY DO THE DEVELOPMENT WORK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU COULD CONVINCE ME.

I JUST, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I, I, I, YEAH.

YOU KNOW IT.

AND, AND, AND THE FACT THAT COUNCILMAN LOPEZ DOESN'T WANT IT, MAKES IT EVEN MORE, UM, COMPELLING NOT TO VOTE FORWARD.

I JUST, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW.

I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY'RE ENTREPRENEURS AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COMMISSIONER.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT IT, WE DON'T WANT THE HOTEL THAT CLOSE TO OUR RESIDENTIAL 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S MAYBE TWO OR THREE STREETS FROM MY HOUSE.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A TRACK RECORD.

I KNOW IN ARLINGTON OF THE STATE HOTELS, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF POLICE ISSUES AND A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS HAD THAT DOCUMENTED, BUT I DIDN'T BRING HERE.

SO I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I AM FAMILIAR WITH, THAT I KNOW ON A PERSONAL BASIS.

AND WE DON'T WANT IT RIGHT NOW.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY, WHICH IS NOT MY FAULT, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT THEY WANNA COME BACK AND REPRESENT IN ANOTHER WAY, MAYBE ANOTHER LOCATION.

BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA STILL VOTE TO MOTION TO DENY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

SO, UM, I AM A BIT CONFLICTED AS WELL, BECAUSE I SAW THE HUMILITY.

AND I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO COME INTO OUR TOWN AND YOU WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT I DO AGREE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY RISKS THAT WEREN'T DISCUSSED AND WEIGHED PRIOR TO THE PROJECT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS AT THE OTHER END, BUT I HAVE TO DEFER TO MADAM CHAIR AND HER NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT PERTAINS TO THE OVERARCHING THEMES OF, OF WHAT ITEMS OF CONCERN ARE.

SO, I AM VERY SORRY.

I JUST, I HOPE THAT THE PATELS AND MR. STEWART WILL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE, UH, PROPOSED IN A DIFFERENT AREA HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

UM, IT IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF SAFETY AND CONCERN THAT I REALLY WANT YOU TO HEAR THAT WE ARE EXPRESSING, UH, NOTHING MORE.

WE WANT YOU HERE.

LET ME JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

VERY WELL SAID.

I WANNA SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AND WE DESERVE WHAT WE DESERVE.

I MEAN, WE DESERVE PEACE, AND WE HAVE A PRETTY DECENT COMMUNITY, AND IT'S QUIET WHERE WE ARE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A RIGHT, JUST LIKE THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A RIGHT TO COME IN.

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO, TO HAVE WHAT WE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE TO HAVE A, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY.

AND RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE PHONE CALLS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED AND ALL OF THESE OPPOSITION LETTERS, THERE'S NO WAY I CAN, UH, DO, NO WAY I CAN APPROVE THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION,

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ONE MORE.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

I JUST WANNA MAKE, I, I WANNA MAKE A A POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN, AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IF IT WERE DOWN THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE, BUT I DO WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SO MANY HOUSES THAT ARE RENTAL HOUSES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT.

THE PEOPLE WHO RENT THE HOMES DO WHATEVER THEY WANT IN MANY, YOU KNOW, MANY CASES.

AND THERE'S NO RAMIFICATIONS ON THE DAILY BASIS, UM, YOU KNOW, OR ANY KIND OF GUIDANCE WITH REGARD TO THEIR BEHAVIOR OR THE UPKEEP OF THE HOME.

WHEREAS WITH THIS, UM, I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT THE EXTENDED STAYS, JUST LIKE I SAID, THEY ALSO GET, YOU KNOW, A BAD REPUTATION.

OFTENTIMES THOUGH, THEY ARE THE TRAVELING NURSE, THE FAMILIES RELOCATING THE BUSINESS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES FOR A LONG TIME, UM, THEY'RE WILLING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO AND ADD FENCING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR TRAVELERS ARE NOT WANDERING OUT.

AND ALSO, BACK TO MY POINT IS THAT AS THEY STAY THERE, THERE WILL BE CONTINUED SUPERVISION OF THE PROPERTY.

SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A, I FEEL LIKE IT'S LESS OF A, OF A RISK.

IT DOESN'T LOOK INTO ANYONE'S BACKYARD.

AND, AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE STAYS THERE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A HOME ELSEWHERE, OR THAT THEY ARE OF RISK TO OUR CITY.

UH, AGAIN, I DO, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THEM HAVING NOT, YOU KNOW, CHECKED IN WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT IT PROBABLY IS A PRIME LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND IT IS A WELL RESPECTED BRAND.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE POINTS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TEMPORARY STAY INDIVIDUALS, THAT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T IMMEDIATELY MEAN THAT THEY ARE A NEGATIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANKS.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

BUT BEACON HILL, HOA, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE COVENANTS, AND WE DO HAVE A, A MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT, THAT LOOKS OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT BLINDLY GOING THROUGH.

WE HAVE PEOPLE, OH, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST RENTALS ALL OVER GRAND PRAIRIE.

NO, NOT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT ANYWAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

AND ANYMORE COMMISSIONER OR COLEY, MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN TELL THIS, PLEASE? UM, YEAH.

MOTION TO TURN, SINCE THIS IS MY DISTRICT, AND I LIVE IN THIS AREA FOR THE SAKE OF MY RESIDENT, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT I LIVE BY, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UH, EVERY COMMISSIONER ON THIS, UH, PANEL HAS A RIGHT TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIOUS.

BUT FOR THE SAKE OF MY COMMUNITY, I AM SPEAKING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MY COMMUNITY.

IN DISTRICT FOUR.

THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS HOTEL, DO NOT WANT IT.

AND I AM GOING TO HONOR THAT BECAUSE I'VE HAD, I, YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE PHONE CALLS THAT I'VE HAD.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE OPPOSITION LETTERS, I, WE HAVE A RIGHT, UH, FOR PEACE.

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DENY THIS.

AND YOU CAN VOTE IF, IF IT PASSES, IT PASSES, IT STILL HAS TO GO TO, TO THE COUNCIL.

AND I'M PRETTY SURE COUNCILMAN LOPEZ WILL PROBABLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO OTHER THINGS WITH THAT.

BUT AS MY DUTY, AS THE, AS BEING, UM, DISTRICT FOUR, WHERE I LIVE, WHERE I RESIDE WITH MY RESIDENCE, WITH THE HOMEOWNERS THAT I HAVE LIVED AROUND FOR 25 YEARS, I'M GONNA VOTE TO DENY.

AND I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT.

SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T, I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.

WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS FOR A REASON, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE AN OPINION AND AS IT SHOULD BE.

AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSION AS IT SHOULD BE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M GONNA MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO COMMISSIONER.

LUCKY, UH, MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT A ISD PROVIDED THEY PRESENTED? DID THE CITY, CAN SOMEBODY READ THAT LETTER? I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT OF A ISD SAID IN THE LETTER.

BUT IT, BUT IT STILL WASN'T MATTER, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RELAY THAT TO THE, TO US, TO OUR, TO THE HOMEOWNERS.

IT WAS, WE NEVER, THERE WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION.

TWO STOP RIGHT THERE.

I NEED, YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT THOUGH.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.

HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DOCUMENTS COMPLETELY, AND WE HAVE NO CONCERNS AND NO OB OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSAL AS PLANNED.

READ THE LETTER WORD FOR WORD OR, UM, HONORABLE GRAND PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL, MR. NORISH NASH PATEL PROACTIVELY REACHED OUT TO THE ARLINGTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT A ISD TO PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION REGARDING HIS PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT AT 4 6 4 0 HIGHWAY 360 SOUTH.

HE PROVIDED A FULL RENDERING SITE PLAN AND A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

FURTHER, MR. PATEL TOOK THE TIME TO CALL OUR OFFICE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THE ARLINGTON ISD

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WE APPRECIATE BEING CONSIDERED PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO THE WEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SINCERELY, UM, KELLY HORN, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF FACULTY FACILITY SERVICES.

WHAT'S THE DATE, MR. PATEL? THE DATE ON THIS LETTER IS DATED DECEMBER 9TH, 2024.

SO THAT IT, I'M SORRY.

UM, WITH RESPECT, GO AHEAD.

SO IT WAS PRIOR TO THE SEATING OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR WAS IT AFTER THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT GOT IN? WAS, UM, YEAH, THAT IS DR. SMITH, THE SUPERINTENDENT? NO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE AWARE OF THAT.

IT'S OKAY IF THERE WAS A CHANGE.

IT'S OKAY.

YEAH, THAT DID, THEY DID HAVE A CHANGE IN SUPERINTENDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR READING THAT.

NO WORRIES.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER.

LUCKY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SEVEN SUP 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 3, AND DENY THIS, THIS CASE.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ITEM SEVEN BY MYSELF, CHERYL SMITH TO DENY ANY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

IT COULD BE SUSPENSIONS AND FURNITURE.

THAT'S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, UH, TO, UH, APPROVE.

I, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, ONE OPPOSED.

THE ITEM PASSES.

UH, WAS IT TO DENY? TO DENY TO DENY? MM-HMM .

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[8. ZON-25-02-0006 - Zoning Change/Concept Plan - Riverbend (City Council District 6). Zoning Change from Agricultural (A) District to a Planned Development District for Single Family Detached uses, and a Concept Plan depicting 233 homes on 66.00 acres. Generally located west of S Hwy 287, and north of Lakeview Drive, Portions of Parcel IDs 184417 & 303394, out of W. M. Gardner Survey, Abstract No. 402, R. K. Wines Survey, Abstract No. 268, and J. D. Elis Survey, Abstract No. 1274, zoned Agricultural (A) District, City of Grand Prairie, Ellis County, Texas]

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS ZON 25 0 2 0 0 0 6.

THIS IS A ZONE CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR A RIVERBANK SUBDIVISION.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE, UM, TO, AND A CONTEMPLATE ADOPTION.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL, THEY WISH TO CREATE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS.

THEY'RE PROPOSING 203 33 UNITS ON, UM, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.

JUST WANTING TO HIGHLIGHT TO YOU, THIS REPRESENTS THE, UH, CITY'S LIMIT.

THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THIS LIMIT ARE STILL IN OUR ETJ.

THEY'RE NOT PART OF OUR ZONING DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

THEY'RE ONLY BRINGING FORTH THE PORTION THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

SO, TO GIVE YOU JUST A GENERAL KIND OF INFORMATION, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE APPROVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CASES DOWN IN THE SOUTH.

SO IN RELATIONS TO EVERYTHING ELSE, WE APPROVE THE LAKE ZONE DIVISION, UH, GOODLAND, YOU KNOW, MIXED RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

AND THIS IS THE PRAIRIE RIDGE AREA THAT OUR, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR BEEN BUILT.

SO AGAIN, UH, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG 2 87.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST KIND OF A STOP BEFORE YOU HIT THE PRAIRIE SUBDIVISION.

JUST WANT YOU TO KIND OF PUT YOU SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THE LOCATION IS IN RELATION TO RECENT PROJECTS THAT WE CITY APPROVED.

AGAIN, THE CONSEQUENCE DEPICTS A 233 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS, UM, HERE FOR THE 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

AND THEY DO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE ON 50 FOOT LOTS.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS THEY HAVE INCLUDED INTO THE, UH, PD FOR JUST TO COMMUNICATE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF A HOME, BUT BASICALLY TO COMMUNICATE THE QUALITY OF THE FINAL PRODUCT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE HOMES WITH A 70 FOOT WIDTH LODGE.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN FYI.

THEY ACTUALLY DID GO TO, UH, CCDC TWICE IN THE LAST YEAR.

ONE IN, UM, SEPTEMBER, ONE IN OCTOBER.

AT THAT TIME, CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE MORE VARIETY OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE ADOPTED MORE OF A MODERN STYLE AND MORE OF A CRAFTSMAN STYLE RATHER THAN JUST THE GENERAL RANCH STYLE HOMES THAT YOU'VE SEEN.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE SIGNAGES AND SCREENING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ALL AROUND SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOW AND COMMUNICATE SOME OF THE AMENITIES.

UM, THEY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WILL BE REMAINING AS A HOA MAINTAIN LOT.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A EIGHT FOOT WALKING PATH, KIND OF TOWARD THE, UH, OPEN SPACE, UM, PART OF THE FLOODLINE AREA.

THEY ARE GONNA USE THE CORNERS AS A OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL POCKET PARKS.

IT COULD BE A PLAYGROUND,

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IT COULD BE JUST AN OPEN SPACE DOG PARK, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THEY ARE REQUESTING QUITE A FEW VARIANCES, BUT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU THAT, UM, HAVING A LIST OF VARIANCES FOR A PD IS FAIRLY TYPICAL.

UM, THEY ARE TRYING TO BASE THEIR BASE ZONING ON SF THREE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS MUCH LARGER HOMES AND THE TYPICAL HOMES, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THEIR MINIMUM LIVING AREA REQUIREMENT IS 2000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 8,400 SQUARE FEET.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TYPICAL HOME, THAT'S USUALLY AROUND 16, 1800 AND, UH, 65 TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET LOT.

SO THAT'S THE PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY SHOW A LOT OF VARIANCES BECAUSE THEY PICK THAT AS A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT HOW THE TYPE TWO, UH, MEETS ALL THE SF THREE.

IT'S THE TYPE ONE, THE SMALLER LOT SIZES THAT REQUIRES VARIANCES BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, BASICALLY SMALLER AT LOTS THAN WHAT THE APPENDIX F UH, W TYPICALLY REQUIRES.

THIS CONCLUDES STEP PRESENTATION.

SO THEY'RE REQUIRING VARI, THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCES FOR MINIMUM LIVING AREA, MINIMUM LOT AREA FOR THE SMALLER LOTS.

AND THEY ARE REQUESTING LOT WIDTH AND LOT DEPTH VARIANCE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME REDUCTIONS ON THE FRONT SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO A LOT UP TO 35 FEET.

AND A MINIMUM LOCK COURAGE FOR, TO ALLOW 65% LOCK COVERAGE.

DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE FUTURE PHASE IN ETJ SHALL BE SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

IF IN THE FUTURE THAT AREA IS VOLUNTARILY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS.

UM, THEY, WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THEY PROVIDE AMENDED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDY.

THEY DID PROVIDE TWO RENDITION OF IT.

IT'S JUST THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOT HAVING GOOD ENOUGH OF AN ALTERNATIVE, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT, THAT BE UPDATED PRIOR TO ANY BUILDINGS PERMITS ARE ISSUED.

UM, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN SHALL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED DURING A FINAL PLAN.

AND ALSO THE WATER SERVICE PLAN FOR THIS AREA IN CONJUNCTION WITH CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WATER TOWER.

UH, AS PART OF THE GOODLAND DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE, UH, THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TRYING TO BUILD A NEW WATER TOWER THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH REVIEWS AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUES IN THAT AREA, THAT IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DURING A CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN.

UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

SO JUNE, YES.

YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS MM-HMM .

YOU, YOU HAVE, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE VARIANCE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

WE DO NOT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE THE AREA, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE PROPOSING SMALLER LOTS AND MUCH MORE REDUCED, UM, SETBACKS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, AS SENDA FORUM WAS ONE THAT WE RECENTLY APPROVED, THAT THEY HAD REDUCTION ON A LOT OF SIDE, UM, SIDE YARD SET EFFECTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT TO YOU THAT THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN ACTUALLY CONTAINED A SMALLER LOT OF 45 FEET.

THEY HAVE, UM, INCREASED THE LOT SIZE TO 75 FEET FOR SOME OF THEIR SMALL, UH, LARGER LOTS THAT USED TO BE AROUND 65 FEET TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL.

SO AGAIN, UH, LET ME SEE.

THEY HAVE HAVE APPEARED BEFORE CCDC, UM, WITH THEIR ORIGINAL, UH, RENDITION OF THIS AREA.

AND THEN BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAD A MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND THEY WENT BACK TO CCDC WITH THE APPROVED REVISED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

AFTER THAT, THEY ACTUALLY INCREASED THE LOT SIZE AND THEN CAME BACK WITH THE ZONE CHANGE.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

YEAH, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

SO I NOTICED ON THE, UM, ON THE LOT PLAN MM-HMM .

THERE WAS A MENTION OF THIN WALL OR THIN FENCE OR SOMETHING.

WHAT, WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? IT WAS IN THE EARLIER, UM, OVERHEAD VIEW.

IT SHOWED THIN WALL OR SOMETHING AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

UM, IT WAS BACK, IT WAS ON THE OVERHEAD VIEW ON A BIG ONE.

IS THAT IT? YEAH, IT SAID IT SAID THIN WALL.

GO GO TO THE, UH, IT WAS THAT ONE, IT'S ON THE BOTTOM.

OH, THERE IT IS.

THERE IT IS.

SIX FOOT THIN WALL.

THAT'S THE TYPE OF MASONRY WALL.

IT'S A MASONRY WALL, YES.

THAT THEY PRE PRECAST MASONRY THAT APPLICANT CAN PLANT PRECAST PANELS.

CAST PANELS.

MM-HMM.

THE SAME ON THE RENT ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN.

AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TOO.

UM, THE WIDTHS OF THE ROAD WITHIN THE, ARE THERE ANY FEEDER ROADS? I DON'T, THEY ALL LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ABOUT

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SO I CAN'T TELL IF THERE'S ANY WIDER ROADS THAN NOT.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL MEETING OUR STANDARD, BUT DO YOU MIND JUMPING IN? I'M NOT SURE AT THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT STREET SECTION IRONED OUT YET.

BUT IT WOULD BE EITHER THE 31 FOOT MM-HMM .

IF THE DENSITIES ARE MEETING MM-HMM .

OR THE 27 FOOT, IF THE DENSITIES ARE NOT, SO THE LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS, WE CAN DO THE 27 FEET PER CODE.

UM, I THINK THIS ONE WOULD MEET THE 31 FEET THOUGH.

AND THEN, UM, SETBACKS, I NOTICED THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO, WAS IT, UM, MINIMUM SETBACK IS, UM, WHERE IS IT 30 AND THEY WANNA GO DOWN TO 20 OR 17, IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, SO THE 17 R 4G SWING FRONT.

GARAGE WITH NO GARAGES.

SO TYPICALLY 17 IS LIKE THE MINIMUM THAT YOU WANT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARS DON'T HANG OUT.

BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING GE SWING.

BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE 30 FOOT, AGAIN, THEY'RE USING SF THREE, UH, AS THEIR BASE ZONING.

SO IT STARTS FROM ONE TO THREE, WHICH ARE A BIT LARGER.

LOTS UHHUH 4, 5, 6 ARE SMALLER LOTS, A LOT OF OTHER LOTS.

THEY PROVIDE 25 FEET BUILDING SET THAT MM-HMM .

SO AGAIN, IT'S UM, IN STAFF'S POINT OF VIEW, THAT'S ONLY FIVE FOOT REDUCTION FROM GENERALLY THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

WHEN I LOOK AT THAT AS A RESIDENT HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT OF TIMES MM-HMM .

WHAT I SEE IS FEWER CARS ABLE TO PARK ON A DRIVEWAY MM-HMM .

AND MORE CARS IN THE STREET.

AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE WIDTH AND SURE.

THE IMMEDIATE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT.

UM, ALSO, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THE SIDE SET, THE SIDE SETBACKS.

ARE ALSO POTENTIALLY ASKED TO BE MADE SMALLER.

IS THAT RIGHT? JUST FIVE FROM SIX.

JUST FIVE.

SO IT'S ONE FOOT REDUCTION.

SO JUST ONE FOOT.

I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA NEWS.

WE ALSO HAVE WHAT'S PROBABLY HARDY BOARD OR LUMBER ON THE EXTERIOR OR A LOT OF THOSE, UM, CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES, THE ELEVATIONS.

SO THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES ARE, I THINK FOR, FOR LARGER LOTS RIGHT NOW.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT WON'T BE USING THE 50 FOOT LOT.

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING MATERIALS AND FLAMMABILITY AND PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER AND AGREEING TO SOMETHING IN ADVANCE OF, OR AFTER HAVING SEEN THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOUR COMMENTS ARE VALID.

GI.

SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SCREEN WHERE THERE SHOWS THE VARIANCES? I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT YES, MA'AM.

THAT, THAT CHART? MM-HMM.

NO, NOT THE VARIANCES.

'CAUSE I'M, MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE HOMES ARE GONNA BE SMALL WITH A LOT OF LAND.

1800 SQUARE FEET AND 2000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S SMALL, SMALL, A SMALL HOUSE SORT OF.

SO THOSE ARE MINIMUM LIVING AREA THAT EXCLUDES THE GARAGES, PORCHES IN ANY OTHER SPACES.

SO THAT'S A MINIMUM.

SO AGAIN, THE HOME SIZE IS, CAN BE BIGGER THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE BASELINE MINIMAL.

THEN I SAY, OH MY GOODNESS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY AND I'M PRETTY SURE THESE ARE GONNA, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PRICING IS FOR, FOR THESE? UH, THIS, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH ME.

THEY DID PRESENT SOME PRICE RANGE DURING CCDC.

I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAVE IS YOU GO BACK TO THE, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, UNLESS WE HAVE A BAD, THEY, THEY LOOKED, THEY DON'T LOOK VERY, I MEAN, THEY LOOK OKAY, BUT THEY, I WOULD THINK THEY COULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

THEY, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T POP OUT.

I MEAN, IS THIS, IS THIS JUST, UH, FROM, IS THIS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO OR IS THIS SOMETHING FROM A, FROM ANOTHER SUBDIVISION? SO AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S JUST ARCHITECTURAL STUFF.

THIS, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON.

BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS LIKE THIS, THIS, THIS WHOLE AREA HERE, BUT ALL OF THESE ARE, THEY LOOK A LITTLE DULL TO ME.

SO I'LL LET THAT BE AT THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU, JUNE.

APPRECIATE IT.

SPEAKER CARDS, WE'VE GOT TWO.

I'VE CONFIRMED , UH, JERRY, SJBI PARTNERS WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

HE'S A SPOKESMAN FOR THE APPLICANT.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.

MY NAME IS JERRY S WITH JBI PARTNERS, 2121 MIDWAY ROAD IN CARROLLTON.

UH, WE REPRESENT BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE, UH, DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

UH, THERE WE GO.

UH, SMALLER LOTS, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEXES, COTTAGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, UH, RIVER BEND IS A, UH, 66 ACRE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AT THE FAR SOUTH END OF, OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

UH, IT IS IN THE SOUTHGATE 360 CORRIDOR PLAN.

UH, THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THE PROPERTY BE DEVELOPED AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH IS GENERALLY FROM SIX TO 12 HOMES PER ACRE.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE SLIDE, THE NU THE TYPES OF HOMES THAT ARE IN THERE.

TOWN HOMES,

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UH, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING.

UH, THE, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF EXCERPTS FROM THE CORRIDOR PLAN.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE REFERENCE OF THE DENSITIES, UH, SUBDIVISIONS SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, ACCESSIBLE TO COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL STREETS.

OUR PROXIMITY TO 2 87 WE'RE LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY.

LAKEVIEW DRIVE IS A COLLECTOR STREET ON THE CITY'S THOROUGH FAIR PLAN.

SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES OF THE, OF THE DISTRICT.

UH, SAME THING, A FEW OTHER POLICIES FROM, UH, THE SOUTHGATE PLAN, UH, THAT THERE SHOULD BE ALTERNATIVE HOUSING, UH, THAT THERE SHOULD BE, UH, PRICE VALUE INCREASES.

SO IT, IT, IT, BASICALLY WHAT THIS SAYS IS IF YOU PROVIDE AMENITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GENERALLY SPEAKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S VALUE IS GONNA GO UP BECAUSE THERE'S AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN USE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL.

SO, RIVER BEND, AS I MENTIONED, WAS, IS 66 ACRES.

UH, WE ARE PROPOSING 233 HOMES ON IT, UH, WITH A MIX OF HOMES ON 50 FOOT AND 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE, UH, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE MIX OF HOMES ON THE, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THAT COMES OUT TO OF THE, OVER THE 66 ACRES THAT COMES OUT TO THREE AND A HALF HOMES PER ACRE.

SO WELL BELOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS PROPOSING FOR THIS AREA.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GREEN AREA IS, THAT'S ROUGHLY 9.4 ACRES OF LAND, OF POCKET PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION'S SEEN THIS OVER THE YEARS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, UH, OVER THE YEARS IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS GETTING AWAY FROM THE LARGE FIVE TO 10 ACRE PARKS.

UH, THEY'RE PRIMARILY GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT ONCE A KID GETS OVER 10.

NOWADAYS THEY DON'T DO A LOT OF STUFF OUTSIDE IN THE PARKS.

UH, THEY'RE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON INTERIOR VIDEO GAMES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING A NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRY TO CREATE OPEN SPACES THAT ARE GONNA BE USED BY THE RESIDENTS.

AND THOSE ARE FOR TOT LOTS.

THOSE ARE FOR PLACES WHERE YOU CAN WALK YOUR DOG AND MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS, UH, AFTER WORK ONE DAY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, NOWHERE NEAR AS ACTIVE AS ENLARGED OR LARGE AS THEY USED TO BE.

UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, AS JUNE MENTIONED, UH, AN EIGHT FOOT WALKING TRAIL.

AND IT, IT, IT SURROUNDS, IT GOES, WRAPS AROUND THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, IT IS RIGHT AT 5,000 LINEAR FEET.

SO JUST UNDER A MILE LOOP AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY PLEASE REMEMBER THAT EVERY STREET HAS MY OPINION.

EVERY STREET HAS A WALK ON EACH SIDE OF IT THAT HAS A, AS A WALKING TRAIL.

UH, SO SIDEWALKS PEOPLE USE, THEY WILL USE THOSE SIDEWALKS TO GET TO THE TRAILS.

UH, SO A LOT OF INTERACTIVITY FROM A PEDESTRIAN PERSPECTIVE OUT THERE.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE ARE FULLY EMBRACING THE FLOOD PLAN.

THAT'S ABOUT 99 ACRES.

UH, AND WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO RECLAIM ANY OF IT.

IT WILL STAY IN ITS NATURAL FORM.

BASICALLY IT'S THE FLOODPLAIN FROM JOE POOL LAKE.

UH, AND SO WE, WE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, THEY WILL BACK HOMES TO THAT OPEN SPACE AND SELL THOSE LOTS FOR A PREMIUM.

AND THOSE HOMEOWNERS GET THE BENEFIT OF THE OPEN SPACE AND THE FLOOD PLAIN.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO MAKE 233 HOMES.

WE WANT THAT OPEN SPACE TO BE THEIRS.

SO EVERY, SO WE, WE CONSCIOUSLY DESIGN THE STREETS, WE DESIGN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT IF YOU LIVE ON ANY STREET YEAR END VIEW, WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR BLOCK, IS THE OPEN SPACE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM END OF IT.

UH, SO, SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF THE MASTER PLAN, OF TRYING TO CREATE AMENITIES THAT INCREASE VALUES OF HOME BUYERS FOR HOME BUYERS IN THE AREA.

INCREASE VALUES FOR THE CITY SUSTAINABILITY OF, OF THE PROJECTS, UH, FOR THE CITY.

WE, AS JUNE MENTIONED, WE ARE USING THE SF THREE AS THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OUR 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS ARE THE SF THREE STANDARDS.

AND SO INSTEAD OF COMING UP WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, WE JUST USED THAT BASE STANDARD.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME VARIANCES FOR THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG, UH, LAKEVIEW.

AND THAT, UH, SIX FOOT THIN WALL, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NOMENCLATURE NOWADAYS.

THAT'S A BRICK WALL, THAT'S A MASONRY WALL PER THE CITY'S, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION.

UH, SO IT'LL MEET ALL THOSE CITY REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF, UH, WHAT THE HOMES COULD LIKE IN, COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THESE ARE NOT LOCKED DOWN.

UH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT ASSUMING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS NEXT MONTH, UH, WE ARE TALKING PROBABLY 18 MONTHS TO 24 MONTHS BEFORE THE FIRST HOUSES START GOING UP.

MOST HOME BUILDERS HAVE VARIATIONS OF ELEVATIONS THAT LAST ANYWHERE FROM NINE MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS, BECAUSE PEOPLE'S STYLES CHANGES.

THINGS CHANGE.

IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WOULD BE BUILT TODAY.

SO WHAT, WHAT WE ARE SHOWING TODAY

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UH, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU 99.99% THAT MAY NOT BE BUILT, PROBABLY WON'T BE BUILT EXACTLY AS THAT 24 MONTHS FROM NOW.

AND, BUT THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO AT THIS TIME.

SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU EXAMPLES.

IT IS BRICK, IT IS STONE.

UH, THE 70 FOOT WIDE HOMES ARE A LITTLE MORE CONTEMPORARY IN THE ARCHITECTURE.

THEY ADD MORE OF THE HARDY PLANK.

UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE, UH, THAT THEY WOULD, DID WANNA SEE SOME MORE VARIATION WITH THE ARCHITECTURE.

NOW, THE ONE THING THAT, AND I, WE, WE EMPHASIZE IT TO THEM, AND I, AND I WILL EMPHASIZE IT TO YOU AS WELL AS IT WAS INTERESTING TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE HAD SOME COM COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT 100% WANTED BIGGER, LARGER HOMES, MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES.

WE HAD OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS, 100%.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOMES IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

DOWN THE STREET, BECAUSE THE HOUSE WILL BE PULLED OUT FROM THAT GARAGE.

AND SO WHAT WE, LISTEN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN HOMES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE, UH, AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT STILL STAY IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE THINK THE 70 FOOT WIDE HOMES TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT YOU MAY LIVE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND YOU CAN COME HERE ON A LARGER HOUSE, A LARGER LOT NEXT TO THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, AND, AND STILL STAY, AND STILL STILL GO TO THE PLACES THAT YOU TYPICALLY GO TO TODAY.

AND JUST AS A REFERENCE POINT, THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED BY, UH, THE CHAIRPERSON REGARDING HOUSING PRICES, THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS IN TODAY'S VALUE, THEY ANTICIPATE, UH, AVERAGE HOUSE IS GONNA BE ABOUT $450,000, THE 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS, BALLPARK, 550,000.

OBVIOUSLY, ALL THOSE CHANGE IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THE UPGRADES IN INTERIOR.

UH, SO I PERSONALLY CONSIDER THOSE SORT OF THE BASELINE NUMBERS.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THAT BALANCING THING.

JUST TO PUT IT IN, IN REFERENCE, IF FOR SIMPLE MATH, IF I'M ASSUMING I HAVE A $400,000 HOUSE ON THAT 50 FOOT WHITE LOT, AND I'M PUTTING 10% DOWN, I'M FINANCING $360,000.

GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS 28% OF YOUR INCOME GOES TOWARDS YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT ON A 30 YEAR NOTE AT SIX AND A QUARTER PERCENT INTEREST.

THAT IS A FAMILY INCOME OF $95,000 TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT HOUSE.

SO IT, ONE PERSON MAKES THAT MONEY, TWO PEOPLE MAKE THAT MONEY.

BUT IN MY OPINION, THAT IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE HOUSE IN TODAY'S WORLD.

AND SO THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE, THE PRICE POINT FOR THE FIFTIES IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MID FOUR HUNDREDS.

THIS WAS JUST FOR AN EASY MATH.

SO WE CAN KEEP STRAIGHT NUMBERS MM-HMM .

THAT THE VALUE OF THE HOMES, EVEN ON THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOT, IN MY OPINION, ARE GONNA BE, ARE CONSIDERED MOVE UP HOMES IN A LOT OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE, UH, LANDSCAPE AND THE SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

WE, ONCE AGAIN WITH, AS WITH THIS, WE HAVE NOT LOCKED DOWN SPECIFIC DESIGNS.

THIS IS SORT OF A THEMATIC, UH, BUT TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S SIMILAR STONE.

UH, THE, THE BROWN IS THE, IS THE, UM, UH, RUSTED STEEL THAT YOU SEE NOW ON A LOT OF SIGNS WITH THE SILVER, WITH THE SILVER TEXT, UH, GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE POCKET PARKS.

UH, THE, THE LARGER POCKET PARK, WHICH IS THE ONE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER THAT'S, THAT'S TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A TOT LOT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.

UH, THE O OTHER LITTLE POCKET PARKS MORE PASSIVE AREAS, SOME WITH SOME BENCHES, SOME SEATING, LIKE I SAID, OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEIGHBORS TO MEET NEIGHBORS.

UH, THE DETENTION AREAS DOWN AT THE, AT THE SOUTH, WHAT I CALL THE SOUTH END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO LAKEVIEW, UH, WE PLAN ON THOSE BEING, UH, AMENITIZED IN TERMS OF WALKING TRAILS, UH, BENCHES AROUND THOSE.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING THEM AS GRASS, BUT MOST LIKELY THEY WILL BE RETENTION PONDS.

THERE WILL BE WATER IN 'EM ALL THE TIME.

UH, SO THAT THEN THAT WILL BE AN AMENITY TO THE AREA.

UH, IF, IF NOT, THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT'S WHERE IN A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WE HAVE RUGRAT SOCCER PRACTICE BECAUSE IT'S FLAT AND THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT FOR THE, IN SPRINGTIME WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR THE LITTLE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE IN 5-YEAR-OLD SOCCER TO GO PLAY WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE.

UH, THE SETBACKS, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, EXCUSE ME, WITH REGARDS TO THE QUESTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER MADDEN ABOUT THE, THE GARAGE DOORS MM-HMM .

UH, WE HAVE A MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK OF 20 FEET, BUT FOR THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS, YOUR GARAGE DOOR HAS TO BE SET BACK IN ADDITIONAL THREE FEET.

SO THAT'S 23 FOOT TO THE DEPTH OF THE GARAGE DOOR FACE.

THE OTHER PORTION OF THE HOUSE MAY BE 20 FEET.

SO TO, TO YOUR POINT OF, WE WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN PARK ON THE DRIVEWAYS WITHOUT ENCROACHING INTO THE SIDEWALK OR WITHOUT ENCROACHING INTO THE STREET.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT 23 FEET ALLOWS FOR THAT, UH, IN THIS AREA.

PLUS WHAT IT ALSO DOES IS IT MINIMIZES THE FACE OF THE GARAGE AS YOU'RE DRIVING

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IT'LL BE RECESSED A BIT.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND I, I'M GONNA TELL YOU BEFORE THIS IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAFF ON THIS DEVELOPMENT ON AND OFF FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THEY'VE BEEN FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH.

THEY'VE HELPED US OUT TREMENDOUSLY.

THE BIG THING I WANNA DO THIS EVENING THOUGH, IS SHOUT OUT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, I REACHED OUT TO HIM SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE'VE KEPT HIM IN, IN TOUCH OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PROJECT.

AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECT TWO YEARS AGO.

I REACHED OUT TO THEM, HE TRIED TO CALL ME BACK TWO OR THREE TIMES, AND WE NEVER CROSSED PATHS.

FINALLY, WE CROSSED PATHS BECAUSE HE CALLED ME BACK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK ON A SATURDAY NIGHT.

I'VE NEVER HAD, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I'VE NEVER HAD A COUNCIL PERSON CALL ME BACK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK ON A SATURDAY NIGHT.

AND WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

AND I, I, IT, IT IS HARD FOR ME NOT TO GIVE THAT GUY PROPS.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT, THAT IS, BUT THAT IS MY OPINION.

THAT IS HOW HE IS FOCUSED ON HIS COMMUNITY AND THE, THE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT HE WANTS TO PUT INTO MAKING SURE SOMETHING IS GOOD THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING IN HIS DISTRICT.

AND AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH HIM FOR THE ENTIRE TIME.

UH, WE MET WITH HIM IN THE FALL BEFORE WE HAD OUR FORMAL FINAL RESUBMITTAL, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

I, I THAT HE WAS, HE, UH, HE DID INDICATE THAT HE WAS IN, IN FAVOR OF OUR PROPOSAL.

UH, THE STAFF HAS INDICATED THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF HER PROPOSAL.

UH, I WOULD KINDLY ASK THIS EVENING THAT THE COMMISSION REITERATE ALL THAT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

SO, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE SETBACK, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS FURTHER, IS CLOSER TO THE CURB, AND YOU'RE PULLING THE GARAGE BACK.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM.

SO, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOUR NUMBERS ONLY, UM, WHAT IS IT, 23% OF THOSE LOTS ARE GONNA BE THE 70 FOOT WIDE ONES.

AND SO WE'VE GOT 67% OF THEM NARROW.

AND MY BI, YOU HEARD MY CONCERNS.

THE NARROW STREETS PLUS SHORT SETBACKS PLUS TRUCKS HERE ARE ON AVERAGE 16 TO 18 FEET LONG.

YES MA'AM.

AND SO THEY'RE UNLIKELY TO FIT IN YOUR GARAGES AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE 23 FOOT DRIVEWAY.

BECAUSE WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S MM-HMM .

THAT WE UNDERSTAND OUR HOME BUILD.

THE HOME BUILDER UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEIR CLIENT IS MM-HMM .

AND THEY UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF PICKUP TRUCKS OUT THERE MM-HMM .

AND SO WE ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT IN, IN THAT FORM.

AND THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I, I PERSONALLY HAVE, AND JUST WANTED TO VOICE THIS, IF IT EVER FACTORS INTO ANY OF YOUR PLANNING, IS THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE HOUSES SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND, UM, NARROW STREETS, GUEST PARKING BECOMES AN ISSUE.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST REALLY DOES NOT AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE HOMES MAY BE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN THE CENTER OF A STREET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY, MULTI, UM, GENERATIONAL FAMILIES ARE LIVING IN ONE HOME, THEN SUDDENLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T LOOK AS LOVELY.

SO ANYWAY, AND, AND JUST FOR A CLARIFICATION POINT ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE BLACK AND WHITE VERSION MM-HMM .

WE ARE SHOWING THE STREET, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET CROSS SECTION IN THERE.

AND WE ARE PROPOSING THE 31 FEET OF PAVING, WHICH IS THE WIDER ON ALL THE STREETS.

OR JUST ON ALL THE STREETS AT THE ENTRANCES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT FIRST BLOCK.

SO IN THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE WE, WHERE WE INTERSECT WITH LAKEVIEW MM-HMM .

THOSE, THE, THE PAVING ON THOSE IS ACTUALLY 36 FEET WIDE.

LIKE IT'S A, OKAY.

AND SO EVERY OTHER STREET HAS MINIMUM 31 FOOT OF, OF PAVING MM-HMM .

UH, TO ACCOMMODATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE, WE, WE DO BELIEVE, WE HAVE PUT THOUGHT INTO THIS, AND WE, AS MARKET EVOLVES, AS THINGS CHANGE MM-HMM .

OUR, OUR CLIENTS HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT.

OTHERWISE, IF, IF I'M, IF, IF THEY'RE PROVIDING A PRODUCT THAT CAN'T MEET THEIR CUSTOMER'S NEEDS MM-HMM .

THEY'RE NOT THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEY DON'T SELL THOSE HOUSES MM-HMM .

AND SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NATURE OF BUSINESS.

WHO IS MY CUSTOMER? HOW DO I SERVE MY CUSTOMER? AND SO TO THAT POINT, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE TRY TO DO THAT.

AND I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.

THAT ARE HERE ARE TYPE A PERSONALITIES.

JUST A MATTER OF CURIOSITY FOR ME.

UM, WHY IS IT THAT THE 50 LOT, 50 FOOT LOTS ARE, ARE SEPARATED FROM THE 70 FOOT LOTS? WHY ARE THEY NOT INTERSPERSED? YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT MY, TELL ME? YEAH.

FOR REAL.

UH, HOME BUYERS DON'T WANT IT.

THE, THE 70 FOOT LOT LOTS DON'T WANT IT.

THIS IS, THIS IS, YEAH.

CORRECT.

THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, THIS TRULY IS MY, IS MY TAKE ON THE, I'VE BEEN IN THIS, LIKE I SAID, BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS OVER 30 YEARS IS GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT.

AMERICA IS A GREAT COUNTRY.

YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED HERE IN 250 YEARS, PLUS OR MINUS.

AND IT'S BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE

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THEY WANTED TO GET SOMETHING BETTER.

SO WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, YOU WANT TO OWN A HOME.

WHEN YOU LIVE IN A STARTER HOME, YOU WANT TO OWN AND BUILD UP HOME.

WHEN YOU LIVE IN A BUILDUP HOME, YOU WANNA OWN SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER.

AND SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS WHEN I'VE ATTAINED THIS LARGER LOT LARGER HOME MM-HMM.

GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT MM-HMM .

I WOULD PREFER THAT I LIVE IN A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SIMILAR TYPE HOMES AND SIMILAR TYPE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ATTAINED THAT SAME GOAL AND NICELY.

THANK YOU, .

I BELIEVE IT TO BE THE TRUTH.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES.

HELLO? MR. SIL SILO? YES, MA'AM.

PLEASED TO MEET YOU.

UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS FROM ME.

I LOVE, UH, THAT MY COLLEAGUE ASKED YOU ABOUT THE 180, THE 53, BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

UH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT A 50 FOOT, UM, LOT THAT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, I GUESS I ASKED FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT TO WHAT YOUR POINT WAS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SUBDIVISION AND THEN ACROSS THE WAY AT GOODLAND.

UM, SAME TYPE OF HOMES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CLOSE KNIT ENVIRONMENT.

THEY DO HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL AMENITIES FOR.

SO I'M, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW ARE YOU LOOKING AT COMPETING WITH THAT SUBDIVISION AND WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING AT THIS POINT? AND PART OF IT IS, EVEN THOUGH THE PRICE POINT IS BALLPARK FOUR 50, THEIRS IS GONNA BE MORE BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE THOSE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, AND IT GOES BACK TO THE 1980S.

IN THE 1980S, PEOPLE HAD 10,000, 12,000, 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AND, UH, 14, 16, AND 1800 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES.

AS, AS TIME HAS EVOLVED, IF THINGS ARE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE, MOST HOME BUYERS SAY, OKAY, WHAT DO I WANT MY MONEY TO GO TOWARDS? DO I WANT IT TO GO TOWARDS A LARGER LOT OR DO I WANT IT TO GO TOWARDS AS MUCH HOUSE AS I CAN GET? BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE HAVE 30 YEAR NOTES AFTER YOUR FIRST TIME.

MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA STAY IN A HOUSE FOR 20, 30, 40 YEARS.

SO THEIR FOCUS IS ALWAYS, I WOULD LIKE MORE HOME AND I'M NOT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LOT.

AND SO THAT IS HOW THE MARKET HAS EVOLVED AND FOR, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

BACK TO THE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, ONCE KIDS HIT 10, THEY'RE NOT OUTSIDE PLAYING IN THE BACKYARD ANYMORE.

UH, NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WANT THE BIG LARGE SWIMMING POOLS ANYMORE.

THIS IS JUST THINGS CHANGE.

AND THAT, THAT, THAT IS, ONCE AGAIN, OUR, I BELIEVE OUR CLIENTS TRYING TO ADDRESS THE MARKET THAT I SAY OBVIOUSLY.

BUT THEY, THEY OBVIOUSLY GET FEEDBACK FROM POTENTIAL BUYERS AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS, AND IF THEY DON'T WORK TOWARDS THAT FEEDBACK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE IN THE BUSINESS.

AND I, I BELIEVE THIS IS, I, I BELIEVE THIS IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD FROM THEIR FOCUS GROUPS AND THEIR MARKETING GROUPS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CLIENT WANTS.

VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU, YOU EXPLAINED THINGS A LOT.

I LEARNED A LOT.

LAURA STEWART AND JOSH STEWART.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? YES.

WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

HELLO, I'M LAURA STEWART.

WE LIVE AT 61 80 LAKE VIEW DRIVE, 7 6 0 8 4.

I'M JOSH STEWART .

MOST OF OUR QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE, UM, BUILDERS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING FOR IT.

UM, SO FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE THE ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT YOU INVESTIGATED THAT ARE POTENTIAL FOR THIS AREA, UM, ON THAT AREA? I SAW THAT IT WAS NEAR A FLOODPLAIN, BUT ALSO ACROSS THE WAY, 'CAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SIR.

MR. SALO, CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? SO YOU CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YOU MAY WANNA REPEAT THE QUESTION AGAIN.

SO YOU, DID YOU HEAR IT? UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT ADVERSE OUTCOMES COULD COME FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BEING BUILT.

UM, I SEE THAT IT'S NEAR A FLOOD PLAIN, BUT ALSO ACROSS THE WAY.

SO HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED LIKE POTENTIAL FLOODING? ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON RAISING UP THE HOUSES THAT COULD FLOOD? UM, LIKE US IN PARTICULAR EVEN MORE.

WHAT OTHER ADVERSE OUTCOMES HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT? OUR PROPERTY IS 100%.

OUR, OUR, THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IS 100% OUT OF THE FLOOD FLOODPLAIN.

THIS FLOODPLAIN IS A, IS THE LARGE FLOODPLAIN, AS I SAID, FROM JOE POOL LAKE.

SO IT'S BEEN STUDIED AND FLOODPLAIN STUDIED FLOODPLAIN.

THEY ESTABLISH AN ELEVATION AND JUST, JUST AS A NUMBER, IT'S 400 FOOT, FOOT ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

AND THAT'S NOT IT HERE, BUT THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, SO THEY ESTABLISH A NUMBER AND THEY, THROUGH ALL THEIR STUDIES, ALL THEIR MODEL RUNNING, THEY, AS THEY SAY THAT, OKAY, THE WATER IS NOT GONNA GET ABOVE 400 FEET.

THE CITY ALSO HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, DON'T

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QUOTE ME, I DON'T, BUT I, IT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE FINISH FLOOR OF THE HOUSE HAS TO BE TWO FOOT ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAN ELEVATION ONCE AGAIN TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT PROBLEM.

ALL OF OUR PROPERTY, 100%.

WELL, NOT, WE HAVE A SMALL PORTION HERE THAT DRAINS TO THIS DETENTION POND.

A SMALL PORTION HERE THAT DRAINS TO THIS DETENTION POND.

EVERYTHING ELSE GOES TO THE BACK, TO THE FLOOD PLAN.

TEXAS WATER LAW SAYS IF I'M ON THE, IF I'M ON, IF I'M DRAINING TO THE SOUTH, NORMALLY TODAY, I CANNOT, IF I DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, I CANNOT INCREASE THE VOLUME OR THE SPEED OF THAT WATER WHEN IT HITS MY PROPERTY LINE AS IT IS TODAY.

IT HAS TO BE IDENTICAL.

AND SO THE CITY HAS REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE HAVE TO DO DETENTION FACILITIES, DETENTION PONDS AND AREAS.

AND WE HOLD THAT WATER BECAUSE WITH STREETS, WITH HOMES, THE WATER'S RUNNING OFF.

WE HOLD THAT WATER IN THE POND AND THEN WE RELEASE IT.

'CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S AN OUTFLOW PIPE.

WE RELEASE IT AT THE SAME RATE AND AT THE SAME VOLUME THAT'S COMING OUT TODAY.

AND THAT, THAT IS A CITY REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND DO THE PLANNING OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WHAT OTHER, UM, I GUESS, SO I LIVED IN HOUSTON FOR A LONG TIME.

I WAS THERE WHEN HARVEY HIT.

I WAS THERE FOR ALL THE THINGS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVASTATED A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

I KNOW THAT THEY POORLY PLANNED WHERE THEY PUT SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ALSO PONDS WERE OVERFLOWING.

I MEAN, WE WERE EVACUATING HOSPITALS 'CAUSE DETENTION PONDS WERE CRESTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, ON THE VERY EDGE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, HE CAN POINT IT OUT.

AND, UM, WHENEVER, RIGHT HERE, WHEN THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT, UM, THEY ACTUALLY BUILT DRAINAGE INTO OUR PROPERTY.

SO WE FLOOD REGULARLY.

UM, LUCKILY OUR HOUSE HASN'T FLOODED, KNOCK ON WOOD, BUT WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD TO DO A LOT OF LAND WORK BECAUSE OF THE, UM, WHAT'S BEEN BUILT NEXT TO US.

AND WE'VE SPENT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

I CAN SHOW YOU THE RECEIPTS.

UM, AND WE STILL HAVE ISSUES.

WE'RE EVEN BACK TO HAVING, UM, ALL OF OUR LAND GO UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN.

AND SO WE'RE SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, ANYTIME IT RAINS REALLY, REALLY HEAVY LAKEVIEW DRIVE ITSELF FLOODS.

UM, SO IT FLOODS ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF US.

WE HAVE A NICE, UM, DITCH AREA THAT FLOOD THAT DOES WORK PRETTY WELL.

UM, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF FLOODING THAT HAPPENS OVER THERE.

UH, IF, JUST A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.

UM, THIS IS A, A, A CREEK SLASH DRAW DOWN HERE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

YOUR HOUSE IS ONCE AGAIN RIGHT HERE.

THE, THE LINES SHOWN ON THE DRAWING AND ARE TOPOGRAPHY LINES ARE TWO FOOT ELEVATIONS.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS TWO FOOT HIGHER THAN THIS LINE RIGHT HERE.

SO IF YOU FOLLOW THE TOPO, ALL THE TOPO DRAINS TOWARDS THE CREEK.

SO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE, WE, WE DETAIN HERE.

THIS IS THE LOW SPOT.

THIS IS WHERE THE WATER WILL FLOW JUST BY NA BY NATURE.

IT WILL GO DOWN HERE.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A POND THERE.

'CAUSE THEY USE THAT POND, STOCK POND.

THEY USE THE NATURAL FLOW.

IT WILL GET TO THE CREEK DOWN HERE, YOUR PROPERTY OVER HERE.

UH, AND SO IN TERMS OF WHAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, NONE OF THIS WILL DRAIN IN THIS OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS HIGHER GROUND THAN THIS.

THIS IS, EACH RED LINE IS 10 FEET.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS YOUR HOUSE HERE.

THERE'S 10 FOOT, THERE'S 20 FOOT FALL BETWEEN THE, THE YOUR, BETWEEN THE FLOOR OF YOUR HOUSE AND THE GROUND OVER HERE.

SO YOU'RE 20 FOOT ABOVE THAT ELEVATION.

YOUR FUTURE PHASE FLOODS REALLY BAD ALREADY THOUGH, CURRENTLY.

SO FROM THIS HOUSE ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, IT FLOODS ACROSS LAKEVIEW AND FLOODS LAKEVIEW INTO OUR DITCH ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND, AND, AND IT MAY, YEAH.

IS THERE GONNA BE A NEW ROAD FOR LAKEVIEW? OR YOU CAN PUT IN NEW DITCHES AND WHAT? NO, NO.

WHAT, YEAH, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS AS THIS PROPERTY ULTIMATELY DEVELOPS, THE CITY RE WILL REQUIRE US TO PUT IN A STORM DRAIN SYSTEM JUST LIKE WE HAVE HERE.

THAT STORM DRAIN, I DON'T KNOW FOR EXACTLY, FOR SURE, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT STORM DRAIN'S GONNA RUN DOWN THE LENGTH OF LAKEVIEW AND DUMP IN THIS DRAW.

'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS 20 FEET HIGHER THAN THIS WATER'S GONNA FLOW THIS WAY.

AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE LOW SPOT.

SO, BUT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT IN A PIPE SYSTEM.

AND IT, SAME THING.

TEXAS WATER LAWS IS ALWAYS GONNA APPLY.

I CAN'T DUMP ON YOU GOOD INFORMATION WITHOUT YOU ACCEPTING IT.

WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, I GET, I GET YOUR SIDE.

IT'S JUST PRAIRIE RIDGE CAME AND DUMPED ON US, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, WHICH NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN TO DO THE SAME THING, WHICH MAY, WHICH I SAY MAKES SENSE, BUT, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THIS GROUND IS EVEN HIGHER THAN YOUR GROUND.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL.

SO THEY, THEY DID BUILD UP A LOT TOO THOUGH.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY BUILT A RETENTION WALL.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND YOU LOOK LIKE SOME PARTS OF IT, IT'S DOWN TO HERE AND SOME PARTS IT'S ABOVE WHERE I CAN REACH.

UM, OKAY.

SO AS FAR AS ROAD MAINTENANCE, I KNOW RIGHT NOW IT'S MAINTAINED BY COUNTY AND I'M NOT SURE WHO ELSE, BUT THERE'S, I MEAN, THE ROAD'S JUST ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE.

SO IS THERE GONNA BE ANY CONTRIBUTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOWARDS THAT OR IS THAT STILL GONNA BE ON THE COUNTY? DOES THAT GO TO CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE? THAT

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WOULD BE RASHAD RASHAD.

YOU WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU, RASHAD, RASHAD OR BRETT, WHATEVER.

YEAH, WE, WE, WE CAN'T, SO THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED.

UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ENTITIES OUT THERE THAT KIND OF GO INTO PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD MAINTENANCE.

SO WE ARE AWARE OF THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND GROWTH ON LAKEVIEW.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY TAKING A LOOK AT.

BUT THE COUNTY, THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OUT THERE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF MOVING PARTS.

SO OKAY.

WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

UM, AND AS THIS SITE DEVELOPS, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE ROADWAY AND THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN AND WHAT IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE ON THAT.

UM, SO NEXT QUESTION.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS TOO, SORRY.

UM, RIGHT THERE, AS YOU, UM, GO FROM LAKEVIEW ONTO 2 87, UM, WE NICKNAMED IT HOPPER ISLAND BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PLAYING HOPPER FROGGER EVERY TIME WE'RE OUT THERE .

UM, SO, UH, IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS SPOT.

THERE IS A, THE, UM, U-TURN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN AND WE TAKE THAT FOR SAFETY SAKE, BUT AS ALL OF THIS IS COMING IN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC, I HAVE TO LEAVE AN EXTRA 10, 15 MINUTES EARLY SOMETIMES JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THE HOSPITAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE JUST WITH ALL THAT'S COMING UP AND DOWN 2 87.

AND SO THAT INTERSECTION, JUST THE SAFETY OF GETTING ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM THAT SIDE OF LAKEVIEW IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING.

SO WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THAT AREA.

UH, YOU MAY KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON DESIGNING A FRONTAGE ROAD PROJECT FOR THAT AREA THAT WOULD HAVE BRIDGES AND SPLIT GRADE.

UM, THAT'S A, A FUTURE PROJECT IN THE SHORT TERM.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT CLOSING THAT OPENING THERE.

UM, WHEN WE WERE FIRST LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT THESE HOMES BECAUSE OF THAT CROSSING MANEUVER THERE.

UM, AND, AND HOW MUCH WE'VE SEEN EVEN AT PRAIRIE RIDGE.

UM, YEAH, SO, SO WE WORKED WITH PRAIRIE RIDGE TO DO THAT U-TURN TO PREVENT THAT CROSSING MANEUVER BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS OUT THERE.

UH, WHILE TECH STOP WORKS ON THAT LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.

UM, AND TALKING WITH TECH STOP, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY INITIATED, UM, JUST TO HAVE THAT MEDIUM BREAK CLOSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING IS ON THAT, BUT WITH THAT CLOSURE, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT LED OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THESE HOMES OUT THERE KNOWING THAT, THAT THAT MOVEMENT WOULD BE GOING AWAY.

UM, BUT THE COMMUNITY JUST MOVED FROM TAKING YOU GUYS EXIT.

YOU SHUT DOWN OVER LAKEVIEW.

SO NOW WE HAVE THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOES THROUGH LAKEVIEW NOW, PLUS ALL THE TRAFFIC FOR THE NEW BRIDGE IS GETTING BUILT FOR ALL THAT.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S OVERWHELMING IS WHAT IT'S, SO AS, AS PART OF THAT TOO, UH, THE DEVELOPERS TO THE WEST OF Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON, UM, GOODLAND PARKWAY.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ACCESS ROAD THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE 2 87 TO GET TO 360.

SO FOLKS WHO ARE WANTING TO GO NORTH, HOW WOULD HAVE TO CROSS 2 87 COULD GO TO GOODLAND, TAKE THAT NORTH, GO TO 360 AND, AND CONTINUE ON THAT WAY.

UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE.

UM, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF WISDOM, RASHAD WITH THAT? ARE YOU PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? NO MA'AM.

WE, WE SOON AS WELL, AT LEAST SINCE 2020, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT, MAKING THEM AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING.

I DON'T THINK THEY WERE AWARE.

AND SO WE'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR AND THEY'VE STARTED MOVING, BUT IT'S A SLOW BALL.

AND BRETT AND TRANSPORTATION TEAM HAS BEEN IN LOCK AND STEP WITH THEM LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF REALLY, UM, FRUSTRATED, UM, PATRONS IF THAT ROAD, IF THE ROAD SYSTEM ISN'T A LITTLE BIT BETTER BY THE TIME THEY START MOVING IN.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT TAKES, MY DAD'S A CIVIL ENGINEER, SO I KNOW THAT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UM, OKAY, SO THEN, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I ASKED THIS QUESTION.

DO YOU GUYS PLAN ON RAISING THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP ANY FURTHER THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW? WHILE WE HAVEN'T DONE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING PLANS ON IT? I DON'T THINK SO.

IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN FIRE SAFETY PLANS.

HAVE Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT, I'M SURE THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN IN ANOTHER MEETING, BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE FIRE SAFETY, I KNOW SOMEONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED THE, THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE HOUSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR, UM, FIRE TRUCKS BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT? LIKE JUST THE, IN GENERAL, THE CONCENTRATION OF HOUSES PLUS THE 50,000 RESIDENTS Y'ALL ARE EXPECTING IN GOOD LANDS ON THAT ROAD.

WHAT'S THE FIRE SAFETY? YEAH.

AND, AND AS PART OF THE CITY'S REVIEW PROCESS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT OUR CONCEPT PLAN MM-HMM AND WITH THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND THE, THE WAY WE WERE PROVIDING THE STREET INTERACTION THROUGH HERE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GET THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY EASILY.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEAD ENDS ANYWHERE.

UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HAVING THE 30, 31 FOOT WIDE STREETS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

'CAUSE THEN YOU CAN HAVE CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND THE TRUCK CAN STILL GET THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

SO VERSUS THE 27 FOOT, THAT'S ALSO ALLOWED IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO, SO THEY, THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT, THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF ON OUR PROPOSAL.

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UM MM-HMM .

WERE THOSE, WERE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? ALL OF THEM? NO, MOSTLY.

YOU ARE REALLY GOOD.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS.

WE'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU .

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

THERE ARE NO MORE CARDS, NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, ANY DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW? THIS IS IN, UH, COMMISSIONER LUCKY'S AREA DISTRICT SIX.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS BEFORE WE COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE, UM, CITY EMPLOYEES ARE PHENOMENAL TO THE STEWARDS, SO I THINK YOU SHOULD INTERCHANGE INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE YOU HAD SUCH GREAT QUESTIONS.

SO YOU KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR AREA.

VERY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ANY, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? LUCKY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? THANK YOU, MA.

THANK YOU MADAM.

UM, CHAIR FIRST I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMEND THE, THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT TO SPEAK UP, UH, ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY AND WHAT'S COMING AROUND YOUR PROPERTY.

AND I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION WAS, UM, DONE WELL, I HEARD YOU AS WELL.

UM, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE, UM, PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE, UM, PER DRC UM, RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CONDITIONS FOR ZON DASH 25 DASH ZERO TWO DASH 0 0 0 6 ZONING CHANGE CONCEPT PLAN.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER, LUCKY TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN AS PER UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.