* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YOU'RE [00:00:01] GOOD NOW. [Planning & Zoning Briefing 03102025] WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 10TH, 2025. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:30 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING A REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN ON EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I'LL NOW CONDUCT YOUR ROLL CALL MEMBERS, EXCUSE ME, TO CONDUCT THE PROCESS OF A QUORUM AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE. CHERYL SMITH. HERE. TY CHAPMAN. MICHELLE MADDEN. HERE. CHRISTOPHER OLLEY. HERE. FRANK GONZALEZ. JAMIE AZZ. VICTOR MEDINA. HERE. JOHN PCO. ANGELA LUCKY VAUGHN. HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR TY CHAPMAN, FRANK GONZALEZ, DANNY, UM, ARI AND JOHN PCO. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO MA'AM. STAFF READY AT PRESENT? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE ITEM IS, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, SITE PLAN FOR THE MIDTOWN AND NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPS. SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A SITE PLAN FOR MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE USED FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE CORNER OF THE FORUM AND 1 61 RIGHT NEXT TO THE RA APARTMENT. THIS WILL SHOW YOU MORE IN DEPTH WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED. SO WE HAVE THESE, UH, FOUR APARTMENTS THAT IS, HAS BEEN FINISHED. UM, THIS GREEN, SORRY, GREEN STAR REPRESENTS WHERE YOU APPROVE THE BEAR CREEK AND ANOTHER, UM, MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO'S WANTING TO DEVELOP THIS CORNER. WE HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO HAS ACTUALLY A SITE PLAN FOR TWO MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS HERE UNDER REVIEW. THAT WILL APPEAR ON YOUR AGENDA IN THE FUTURE. SO THE SITE PLAN SHOWS DAY TWO, UH, MULTI-TENANT BUILDING FACING THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. AS SHOWN, THEY ARE PROVIDING SOME OPEN AREA THAT'S SHARED BY THE BOTH BUILDINGS, TENANTS. THEY ARE MEETING OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT. ALSO BOTH PARKING REQUIREMENTS. HERE'S THE LANDSCAPING. THEY ARE PROVIDING LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, UH, HIGHWAY 1 61 AND ALSO ALONG THE FORUM. SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A CLOSEUP VIEW OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. SO THIS IS THE SAME THING, JUST THE LANDSCAPE PLAN VERSUS SITE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WITH FENCES AROUND IT. THEY DID PROVIDE PLANTING AREA WHERE THEY'LL PLANT THE TREES AS SHOWN. UH, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING WATER FEATURE IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A THINNER, UM, 18 INCH HIGH WATER FEATURE THAT WILL HAVE SOME RUNNING WATERS AND SOME LANDSCAPING AROUND IT. THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING SOME BENCH SITTINGS AND BIKE RACKS AND ARTWORK. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THESE ARE MORE FOR THEIR RESTAURANT TENANTS AND, UM, THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL AMENITY SPACES THAT COULD BE USED BY THE PUBLIC. HERE'S THE BILLING ELEVATIONS. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH OUR APPENDIX F REQUIREMENTS AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SIDE ELEVATIONS AND THE RARE ELEVATIONS THEY ARE PROVIDING AND MEETING THE APPENDIX F UM, MENU ITEMS. ACTUALLY, THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID THEY WILL PROVIDE SOME EXHIBIT TO SHOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCES. THAT WAS THEIR GOAL TO NOT REQUEST ANY VARIANCES. THIS IS A SITE PLAN. IF THEY'LL, THEY DON'T HAVE A VARIANCE, THEY CAN GO PRETTY SMOOTHLY. SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. AND THIS MAY BE REMOVED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MISSED UP. ALL RIGHT. SO DRC RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. THE DEVELOPER WILL BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS IS MICHELLE'S AREA. UM, I THINK I WAS A CONCERN ABOUT PARKING. YEAH. YEAH. THEY'RE MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO IN THAT AREA WE HAVE A PARKING MAXIMUM BECAUSE WE WANT THE PARKINGS TO BE SHARED. BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, ALL THE PARKING AREA FOR THE APARTMENT IN THIS AREA SHARED. SO LIKELY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL, WHAT MAY END UP HAPPENING IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS MAY GO TO WORK AND THERE WILL BE SOME OF THEM PARKING. YEAH. THAT'S, I GUESS I'M MORE OF A MM-HMM . TRANSPORTATION SETTING AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CONGESTION YEAH. ON WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. OKAY. ANYTHING WITH THAT, BRAD? NO. THEY DID, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS PASSED WAY BACK WHEN REALLY ACCOUNTED FOR COMMERCIAL, HOTEL, MULTIFAMILY, ALL THOSE THINGS. MM-HMM . SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT THAT ORIGINALLY HAD AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES AT THAT TIME AND THIS IS IN LINE WITH THOSE CHANGES THAT WE NEEDED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [00:05:01] I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THE VARIANCE JUST IN CASE IT IS NEEDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF WAS CHANGED WHEN IT GOES TO YES, THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. YES, VICTOR MEDINA. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT IS THE VARIANCE FOR THE REQUEST? YES, SO THEY, UM, I, OR GENERALLY THOUGHT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WINDOWS PROVIDED, THEY NEEDED A VARIANCE FOR THE AMOUNT OF WINDOWS WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE EITHER 50 FEET, UH, LENGTHWISE OR 50 FOOT OF ALL THE ELEVATION AREAS TO BE PROVIDED WITH WINDOWS. WHAT THEY WERE EXPLAINING IS, UH, THE REASON THEY PROVIDED THESE WIND IN WINDOWS WAS TO COMPLY WITH THE OVERALL 50% OF THE ELEVATION AND THEY SHOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE. YOU SAID THAT PRETTY FAST, JIM. OH, SO SORRY. I'VE BEEN MEANING TO SLOW DOWN, BUT IT'S BEEN HARD, BUT I'LL TRY TO SLOW DOWN MORE. , I APPRECIATE YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT. OKAY. CAN I GO TO THE NEXT ITEM? CAN YOU JUST SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YES MA'AM. SURE, SURE, SURE. NO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO. SO WE DO HAVE A WINDOW REQUIREMENT FOR THE APPENDIX F. WE WANT MORE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT FACADE, BUT FOR, FOR ALL THE OVERALL ENTIRE BUILDING, WE WANT 50% OF EITHER THE AREA, MEANING, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOW THE, CALCULATE THE AREA AND YOU HAVE WINDOW, YOU BASE THOSE WINDOWS ON HOW BIG THOSE WINDOWS ARE, AND, AND YOU PROVIDE 50% ALL TOGETHER. SO YOU ADD UP ALL THE ELEVATION AREA, YOU ADD UP ALL THE GLAZING AREA AND SEE IF THAT MEETS THE 50% OF THE AREA. IF I'M BEING TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S REALLY HARD TO MEET FOR SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS BECAUSE, OR EVEN LIKE RETAIL STORES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BACK OF A HOUSE AREA, THEY HAVE REFRIGERATOR AREA, THEY HAVE A STOCK ROOM WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO WINDOWS OR THEY HAVE HARD TIME PUTTING THE WINDOWS. SO WE HAVE GIVEN THE OTHER OPTION SAYING, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A 50 FOOT OF THE LENGTH, THAT'S THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. SO IF YOUR PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING WAS 180, 180, IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 360, THEN YOU JUST NEED TO PROVIDE LENGTH OF 180 FEET AROUND YOUR BUILDING SO THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE LIKE LONGER WINDOWS AND SHORTER, SHORTER SPAN. THEN IT WILL STILL MEET THAT LENGTH REQUIREMENT BECAUSE YOU CAN ADD UP ALL THE WIDTH OF THE WINDOWS, NOT CARING HOW TALL THEY ARE. SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST A TEMPLATE AND THEN YOU JUST KINDA WORK WITH EACH. CORRECT. YOU JUST KIND OF WORK WITH IT TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN MEET BEST. AND A LOT OF TIMES FOR A LOT OF RESTAURANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SHAKE SHACK AND, UH, RAISIN CANES AND, UH, SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE RECENTLY, EVEN BEAR CREEK, UH, UH, I'M SORRY, THE BLACK BEAR DINER, A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN'T MEET BECAUSE THEY HAVE A RELATIVELY SMALL BUILDINGS. IN THOSE CASES, WE GIVE THEM THE OPTION OF REQUESTING REDUCTION. SO SAY INSTEAD OF 50%, YOU PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, 33%, BUT PROVIDE, LIKE PATILO, THEY PROVIDED THIS LIKE DECORATIVE BARN WINDOW, BARN DOORS WITH GOOSENECK LIGHTING. SOME PEOPLE PROVIDE MURALS, BLOOD BEAR WENT TO THAT MURAL ARTWORK ASPECT. SO YOU CAN DO A LOT OF COMPASS STORY MEASURES FOR THAT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE SOMETIMES LIMITED TO SMALLER BUILDINGS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS A SUP SITE PLAN FOR FROST BANK AT WEST KEMP WISDOM. SO THE PROPOSED, UH, FROST BANK IS LOCATED WHERE IT'S SHOWN ALONG THE WEST CAMP WISDOM IN LAKE PARK, UM, LAKERIDGE PARKWAY. SO THIS KIND OF COMMUNICATES BETTER. SO I KNOW CHERYL, YOU KNOW THIS AREA, THIS IS WHERE THE CVS IS , THIS IS THE MEDIC THAT'S CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. , I KNOW WHAT THAT IS. YEAH. THAT'S THE ER AND THIS IS THE VALERO, THE, UH, DUN, UH, DUNKING DONUTS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THE LITTLE CAESARS. AND THIS IS THE, UH, SMOOTHIE KING. ANYWAYS, THEY'RE GONNA PARCEL OUT THE SMALL PORTION OF THE LAND RIGHT NEXT TO THE ER AND BUILD A FROST BANK. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A BUILDING WITH SOME, UH, DRIVE THROUGH LANES THAT WILL BE HIDDEN BY THE BUILDING. SO IT WILL CIRCULATE IN THE BACK. THEY ARE MEETING OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT. THEY WANTED TO EXCEED THE PARKING MAXIMUM. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE. HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING ALL THESE COMPACT PARKING SPACES AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, MEANING THE, UH, APPENDIX OF RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THEY ARE PROVIDING TREES, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE 30 FOOT OF GAS EASEMENT AND ANOTHER 20 FEET OF UTILITY EASEMENT. BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY TRY TO SQUEEZE IN AS MANY TREES THEY CAN KEEP WITHOUT KILLING EACH OTHER, . AND THEY PROVIDE THE REST OF THE TREES KIND OF ALONG THE SIDES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PLANTING ALL THE REQUIRED TREES. IN GENERAL, THEY'RE EXCEEDING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY COULD ONLY FIT IN FIVE TREES IN THE FRONT YARD. SO THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE, UM, FROST BANK. UM, PRETTY TYPICAL THAT THEY HAVE, UM, VERY LONG CANOPIES AND, UM, TOWER LIKE FEATURES WITH CLEAR STORY WINDOWS. THESE ARE THE DRIVE THROUGH [00:10:01] ELEVATIONS. SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE VISIBLE FROM WEST KEMP WISDOM. THIS PORTION WILL BE VISIBLE UNTIL THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST DEVELOPS. OKAY. THEY ARE MEETING THE APPENDIX F REQUIREMENTS AND THEY ARE AGAIN REQUIRING A, REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PARKING SPACES OF 14 TO ALL AUTHORITY PARKING SPACES. THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE THEY CALCULATED BASED ON THE WINDOW. SO THEY CA I, I'M SORRY, BASED ON THE AREA, AND THEY REALIZE IT'S ONLY THE 16%, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR FRONT ELEVATION, THEY PROVIDE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WINDOWS. AND AGAIN, SOME OF THE SMALLER BUILDINGS SOMETIMES MAY HAVE CHALLENGES MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT. SO STEP DOES NOT REALLY OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST. YEAH. DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? ANY QUESTION? STAFF? IT'S A NICE PROJECT. YEAH. YEAH. I WAS, UH, UM, KINDA SURPRISED THEY BROUGHT IT IN BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER BANKS ARE AT THE FURTHER IN THE BANK OF AMERICA. I SEE. AND THE, UH, CREDIT UNION AND THE WELLS FARGO, THEY'RE ALL THERE. YEAH. SO I GUESS THAT THEY, THEY WEREN'T THERE, SO I GUESS THEY FIGURED THEY HAD TO CATCH UP. POSSIBLY, YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. DO WE, DO WE NEED TO ADD THAT THIRD VARIANCE FOR THE TREES ALONG THE RIGHT? I BELIEVE OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE TREES TO BE RELOCATED IF THEY'RE CONFLICTING WITH UTILITIES, MA, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE IF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED YEAH. FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THANKS, JUNE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE VERY SIMILAR REQUESTS. UM, THE FIRST IS LOCATED AT 1822 MOBILE ROAD. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN. UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE. THE EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURE AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY FIVE. THEIR INTENT IS TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, SO THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THEIR ADDRESS IS 1822 MOBILE ROAD. UM, SOME BACKGROUND, SOME OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON COMMISSION FOR A WHILE MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. UH, MATTHEW ROAD MOBILE HOME ESTATES WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1968 BY MEETS AND BOUNDS. AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE PRO PLA THE PARK IS UN PLATTED, UH, EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF LOTS WHERE THE ZONING HAS BEEN CHANGED. UH, THE LOTS WERE CREATED BY DEED AND SOLD OFF INDIVIDUALLY AS MOBILE HOME LOTS. UH, THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED IN 1969, AND TO DATE, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT BEEN PLOTTED AS A WHOLE, NOR HAVE THE STREETS AND RIGHT OF WAY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC. UM, SO, UH, SINCE PROBABLY 2020, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED EIGHT REZONING CASES, TRANSITIONING THE AREA FROM AGRICULTURE DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ALLOWING CITIZENS TO CONSTRUCT SITE BUILT HOMES. UM, SO WHEN EVALUATING THIS REQUEST, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE IN INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, SO THIS, UH, PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE IS SHADED. IT'S WITHIN 300 FEET OF AN EXISTING PUBLIC WATER LINE AND WASTEWATER LINE. SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE LINES SHOWN ON THE MAP IN GREEN AND BLUE. AND SO DUE TO THIS PROXIMITY, THE APPLICANT MAY BE REQUIRED TO EXTEND THOSE LINES TO SERVE THAT LOCATION. UH, SO THIS DETERMINATION WILL BE MADE BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENTS. SINCE THIS IS AN ADDED COST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, DEVELOPING THE LOT, WE HAVE MADE THEM AWARE SEVERAL TIMES OF THIS REQUIREMENT. UM, SO A SEWER SYSTEM FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE, UH, OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT. UH, AGAIN, WATER SOURCE, UH, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS PARK IS THROUGH THE MOBILE HOME ESTATES COMMUNITY. UH, THEY PROVIDE WATER FOR THE PARCELS THROUGH A PRIVATE WATER DISTRICT. UH, AND THEN THE LAST ELEMENT WE KIND OF LOOK AT IS THE ADEQUATE ACCESS. UM, SO THE PROPERTY WILL BE ACCESSED VIA MOBILE ROAD, AND IT'S A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THE ROAD. IT WAS NOT DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY, AND WE DO NOT MAINTAIN IT. SO IT'S MAINTAINED KIND OF AT A MINIMAL LEVEL BY INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE MATTHEW ROAD OKLAHOMA ESTATES COMMUNITY. UM, SO REZONING THIS PROPERTY IS TWO SINGLE FAMILY. FIVE MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET, MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS, UH, WHEN THEY DEVELOP THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, SO THE CURRENT STATUS OF MATTHEW ROAD MOBILE HOME PARK IS OF ONGOING REVIEW. THERE'S A LACK OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA TO ADEQUATELY SERVE NEW HOMES AND PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY DURING INCLEMENT RATHER, UH, STAFF'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM INTEGRITY OF THE WATER SYSTEM SERVING THE PARK AND THE INSTALLATION OF NEW SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITHIN THE VICINITY OF JOE POOL LAKE. UM, SO IN THE PAST, UH, YEARS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ENCOUNTERED SOME TROUBLE OR INSTANCES OF DIFFICULTY ACCESSING PROPERTIES WHEN RESPONDING [00:15:01] TO EMERGENCY CALLS DURING EXTREME WEATHER. AGAIN, THIS ROAD IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. UH, SO NOTING ALL OF THAT, UM, AND WE'VE EXPLAINED THAT TO THE APPLICANT SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF KIND OF THE ISSUES IN THAT AREA. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DOES NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE REZONING REQUESTS DUE TO THE LACK OF SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY. UM, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE ZONING CHANGE BE APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED, APPROVED, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITION AND THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A PLAT AND FILE IT WITH A COUNTY PRIOR TO ANY ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. WELL, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, SAVANNAH, THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROJECT. MY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT YOU CAN, THAT CONTINUING TO ALLOW FOLKS TO, TO CHANGE IT FROM AGRICULTURE. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE, THIS WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE ANOTHER ONE GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE NOBODY'S THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S JUST TOO EXPENSIVE OR BECAUSE OF THE DRUG POOL LAKE IS JUST SO THE, I THINK THE LAST, UH, ESTIMATE THAT THE CITY OBTAINED WAS, UM, I THINK PRIOR TO 2020. AND IT WAS JUST VERY EXPENSIVE TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS, THIS AREA, IT SEEMS, UH, A LITTLE SAD, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S THAT WAY IN THIS DAY AND TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING THE SOURCE AND ALL THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON, UH, WANTING TO BUILD. AND THAT PERSON IS AWARE OF THAT? YES, THEY ARE. THEY'RE AWARE OF THE, THE PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING LINES AND STAFF'S GIVEN THAT THEM THAT INFORMATION AND THEY'LL COORDINATE DIRECTLY WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE DEALT WITH THIS MOBILE HOBAR SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST. YES, SIR. I'LL TALK AT THE GENERAL MEETING, BUT I I, YEAH, I HAVE MY OWN THOUGHTS ON THIS. SHE PERMISSION MAD SIT DOWN. YES. TELL ME, SO WHEN, WHEN, UM, WHEN A SUBDIVISION LIKE THAT IS ADDED TO, I CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD RIGHT NOW. UM, ANNEXED, ANNEXED THE STREETS AND, AND UTILITIES ARE NOT AN AUTOMATIC RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY. CORRECT. SO TYPICALLY, UM, IF THERE'S A NEW SUBDIVISION IN THE AREA THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN CITY LIMITS, PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER IS TO GO IN AND NOT ONLY DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR STREETS, BUT ACTUALLY BUILD THOSE STREETS AND EXTEND THOSE WATER LINES AND WASTEWATER LINES. AND SO THIS IS JUST, UM, THIS IS NOT THE NORM, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY. HUH. AND DO THEY PAY ALL THE SAME TAXES THAT WE DO THAT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS. AS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, YES. THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK. THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WOW. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. SO THIS NEXT ITEM IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS PREVIOUS ITEM. IT'S LOCATED 1802 MOBILE ROAD. SO IT'S FURTHER TO THE EAST. UH, THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO CASES THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT 300 FOOT. SO THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO EXTEND THAT LINE TO SERVICE THEIR HOME. UM, SO AGAIN, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE IT TO SINGLE FAMILY. FIVE, THEY INTEND TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, SAME BACKGROUND. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY WOULD, UM, UM, BE REQUIRED TO GET APPROVAL OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT MEETS OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS TCEQ. UH, THEY WOULD BE, UH, RELIANT ON THE WATER SOURCE FROM THE MATTHEW ROAD MOBILE HOME ESTATES COMMUNITY. AND THEN AGAIN, SAME WITH THE ADEQUATE ACCESS. UM, IT'S A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT. IT'S NOT MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. UM, AND IT'S MAINTAINED KIND OF AT A, A MINIMAL LEVEL BY INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. UM, AND SO SAME CONDITION, UH, SHOULD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A PLAT AND FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING. PERMITS. YOU ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY. SO THIS ONE FALLS WITHIN, SO THEY CAN'T GET TO THE LINE, TO THE, THE LINE. THIS ONE IS FURTHER AWAY. IT'S FURTHER AWAY. YEAH. THE FIRST ONE ON THE AGENDA IS WITHIN 300 FEET. OKAY. OF THOSE EXISTING LINES, THIS ONE'S NOT. THAT'S CORRECT, YES. THE OPPOSITE. OKAY. DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. PERMISSION. SORRY, JUST JO, MY MEMORY. SO REMEMBER THE ONE THAT WAS WITHIN THE 300 FOOT RADIUS, THE PRIOR ONE? MM-HMM . DO THEY HAVE THE THING, THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PUT THAT LINE IN AMONGST WITH ALL THEIR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS? BETWEEN THEM AND THE POINT OF TIME? SO THERE IS A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT. I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE MAP, BUT OKAY. I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS A PRETTY TRICKY ONE HERE. [00:20:02] COMMISSIONER, THIS IS DISTRICT SIX. WERE YOU LOOKING INTO THAT? HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS WITH THE, UM, MOBILE PARK, UM, THAT THEY'RE, UM, WHAT IS THE DISTANCE TO THE NEXT MOBILE PARK THAT WOULD ANNEX THAT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA? I, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, DON'T KNOW OF A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT'S IN OUR ETJ THAT WOULD BE ANNEXED. SO THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. WELL, THIS WOULD BE THE, BOTH APPLICANTS WILL BE AT THE, UH, MEETING TODAY. THE, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS SECOND ONE IS ACTUALLY OUT OF THE STATE AND I DID NOT GET CONFIRMATION THAT HE WAS ABLE TO FIND A FAMILY MEMBER TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE YOU, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTATION ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE. UH, HOPEFULLY THE OTHER APPLICANT SHOWS UP. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING, UH, TO CONTRADICT THAT. ANYTHING ELSE, ANGELA? THANK YOU SIR. THAT BEING SAID, UH, THAT BEING THE LAST CASE, IT'S UH, 5 51 I THIS, UH, BOARD BRIEFING AS ADJOURNED AND WILL RECONVENE AT 6:30 PM THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.