* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] WELCOME [Planning & Zoning Briefing 02242025] TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL OF WATER AT 5:33 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING. ON THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. IF RECALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE. CHERYL SMITH. HERE. TY CHAPMAN. MICHELLE MADDEN. CHRISTOPHER COLEY. FRANK GONZALEZ. HERE. JAMIE MENEZ. ARI VICTOR MEINA. JOHN FCO. HERE. ANGELA LUCKY VUM. HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR TY CHAPMAN. MICHELLE MADDEN, JANIE, UH, AKARI AND VICTOR MEDINA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WE SET DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO MA'AM. VERY GOOD. SNAP. READY TO ROLL? READY TO ROLL? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THE FIRST ITEM FOR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS A SITE PLAN FOR WILDLIFE PICKLEBALL. AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS PART OF THE WILD WILDLIFE INDUSTRIAL PARK. UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST. UH, IT WAS A, AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THREE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS. UH, SO AS PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT, DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO DO AN OPEN SPACE AMENITY WITH A WATER FEATURE. UH, TONIGHT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THAT. UH, FOR A SITE PLAN FOR SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS, UH, RESTROOM BUILDING, AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED PARKING. SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE CONSIDERED ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE FOR THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THAT OVERALL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, SO THE PROPERTY'S AT 7 0 5 WEST WILDLIFE PARKWAY. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AGAIN, IT'S FOR SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS, A RESTROOM AND PARKING. UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THE HATCHED, UH, 10 FOOT TRAIL ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THAT CONNECTS TO AN EXISTING TRAIL THAT KIND OF MEAN ANDERS THROUGH THAT OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THEY ARE CONNECTING TO THAT. UM, AND THIS WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY UPON COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION. SO THEY ARE MEETING OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. UH, THEY WORKED WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT ON COMING UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, UH, INSTEAD OF SHRUBS, THEY'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ORNAMENTAL TREES AND ADDITIONAL 11 UH, SHADE TREES. THIS IS TO FIT WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT'S MAINTENANCE, UM, PROVISIONS AND CAPACITY. UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED RESTROOM BUILDING AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THIS LOOKS LIKE A WONDERFUL PROJECT. COMMISSIONER FEDCO, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO WHEN IT TURNS OVER TO THE CITY, DOES IT OPERATE, WILL IT OPERATE LIKE, UM, CITY TENNIS COURTS WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE TO CALL TO RESERVE? OR IS IT JUST FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE OR IS THERE I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, A, A PLAN FOR THAT YET. OKAY. AND WHEN IT GOES OVER TO THE CITY, ARE THEY DEEDING US THAT STUFF OR ARE THEY JUST GIVING US A 99 YEAR LEASE OR HOW'S THAT WORKING? I THINK THEY'RE DEEDING IT TO US. YES. YEAH. DE TO US. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTIONS. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, ARE THEY GONNA BE HAVING A PLACE TO SELL FOOD OR ANYTHING? IS IT JUST GONNA BE RECORDED ITSELF? BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF PEOPLE GET HOT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY BRING THEIR OWN STUFF. IT, IT'S JUST THE PICKLE BALLS QUARTZ. YES. AND IT'LL BE, I GUESS THERE'D BE SOME LIGHTING THERE 'CAUSE IT'D START PLAYING AT NIGHT. IS THAT GONNA BE THE LIGHTING? I, I BELIEVE SO, YES. SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE YOUR TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK? YEAH. I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING IT WOULD BE LIKE, UM, THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, SMALL TEENAGERS OR KIDS OR WHATEVER SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE DOES ANYBODY PATROL THE AREA OR WHATEVER. OKAY. SOMETHING HAPPENS OR ANYTHING OR NO. DIFFERENT FROM PATROLLING THE CITY AT LARGE. YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PICKLEBALL IS BIG NOW. IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THEN YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA BE TREATED LIKE EVERY OTHER PARK FACILITY. SO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL HANDLE THAT AS WELL, AS WELL AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT IF EVERY, IS EVERY DISTRICT GONNA GET A PICKLEBALL FACILITY? IT IS WAY DOWN ON THE OTHER END. WELL, THERE'S ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, OFF POLO ROAD, THAT AREA. SO THIS IS KIND OF ADDRESSING [00:05:01] OH, IT, IT IS THERE ALREADY. YEAH. IT'S A PARK I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YES. OH, THAT'S KIND OF, SORT OF, I DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT ONE. IT'S STILL A LITTLE WAYS FROM GREEN ROAD. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND SIX IS ACTUALLY A COMPANION ITEM. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF A PROPERTY, UM, TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THIS REQUIRES A UPDATE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE PROPOSING ZONE CHANGES THIS PROPERTY SHOWN HERE ALONG DUNCAN PERRY AND SOUTH OF TERRANCE. CURRENTLY, THEY ARE HAVING THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALIGNING WITH THE FUTURE CURRENT FUTURE LANE NEWS MAP. HOWEVER, THE PURPOSE USES ARE GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LANE USE TO THE NORTHWEST, ESPECIALLY ALONG TARRANT ROAD AND SOUTH GREAT SOUTH PARKWAY. SO THIS ZONING CHANGE IS A COMPANION ITEM. THIS IS THE TRUE REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN. SO AGAIN, CURRENT ZONING IS FOR PD THREE 12, WHICH IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW WHAT HE'S PROPOSING THERE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE GENERAL AREA. THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF NEAR THE CITY'S, UM, CITY LIMITS. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING LIGHTING. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAREHOUSES THAT ARE PRESENT OR, UM, AROUND THIS PROPERTY. THEY ARE NEXT TO A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT IN A MULTIFAMILY HERE. THIS IS A JANUARY LANE WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING A MULTIFAMILY THREE STORY APARTMENTS AND SOME TOWN HOMES THERE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A SINGLE, UM, W OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDING. IT CAN BE OCCUPIED BY ONE TENANT OR, UM, TWO TENANTS DEPENDING ON, UM, WHO THEY ACTUALLY CAN FIND AS A TENANT. ONE THING THAT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU, THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE LARGELY WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN THAT LIMITS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP TO THE NORTH BECAUSE THEY NEED TO STAY OUTSIDE OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ENDING UP WITH THIS GENERAL KIND OF A WAREHOUSE. UM, ONE THING THAT I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST WAY TO LAY OUT ON THE SITE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME FRONTAGES ALONG, UH, DUNCAN PERRY. THEY ARE GONNA HIDE ALL THESE TRUCK COURT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FRONTAGE THERE. THEY HAVE A THICK WOODED AREA. THEY DO HAVE A TOWN, EXISTING TOWN ON DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT UTILITY LINES GOING THROUGH THERE. SO IT WILL BE QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE TRUCK COURT IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING. SO THEY HAVE AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY HERE WHERE THEY'LL ONLY SEE THE FRONT ENTRY EMPLOYEES ENTERING IN, IN AND OUT. THEY WILL NOT REALLY INTERACT WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THERE. SO THESE ARE THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS. OF COURSE, DURING THE SITE PLAN THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR GENERAL APPENDIX X REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY ARE A TYPICAL TILT WALL CON, UH, CONSTRUCTION WITH, UH, BRICK AND UH, BRICK MASONRY ACCENTS. HERE'S SOME OTHER RENDERINGS FOR THE TRUCK CORD AND, UH, VARIATION OF POSSIBLE FRONT ELEVATIONS. SO AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LANE USE, THESE ARE THE LINE USE THAT THEY WANNA ADD. UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL 'CAUSE COMMERCIAL IS REALLY MORE FOR, UH, RESTAURANTS, UM, SMALLER, UH, RETAILS AND OTHER USES. SO THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, DISTRIBUTORS, MAYBE CONTRACTOR SHOP WITH STORAGES, WAREHOUSES AND WHOLESALE SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY TARGET THE TRUE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL END USERS. UM, STEP. SO DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. UH OH, SORRY. SO DEAR. UH, STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE, BUT I'M NOT ALIGNING WITH THAT. HOWEVER, WE DO WANNA, UM, POINT OUT THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND IF THE PNZ WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, WE REQUEST THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION. UM, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY AT THE MULTIFAMILY AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TRANSPORTATION FIELDS, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE SAFE THIS OPTION. SO THAT CAN BE TRULY LOOKED CLOSELY WITH DIMENSIONS AND OTHER THINGS DURING A SITE PLAN PROCESS. BUT WE JUST NOW WANNA NOTE THAT IN CASE THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE AND WILL HAVE HIS OWN PRESENTATION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. IS THERE ANY [00:10:01] QUESTION FOR STAFF FOR THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER ? YES. SO JUNE MM-HMM . UM, TO THE, UH, IS IT THE WEST OR THE SOUTH? WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE? YES. UH, TO THE EAST. TO THE EAST. I'M SORRY. MM-HMM . WHAT WILL THEY BE EXPERIENCING? SO WHAT I'M POINTING OUT IS THEY HAVE A REALLY BROAD UTILITY LINES THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO THEY WILL HAVE A WING WALL AND THEY WILL HAVE TRUCK COURTS. HOWEVER, THE DISTANCE IS KIND OF FAR ENOUGH WHERE THEY HAVE THE HUNDRED FOOT UTILITY LINE AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDINGS SET BACK. WE FELT THIS WAS LESS IMPACT ON THEM THAN THE TRUCK COURTS FACING THEM DIRECTLY. HOW, HOW, HOW HAS THE WALL, THE WALLS WON'T BE THE, THE MINIMUM IS SIX FEET. UM, AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT THE DISTANCE IS PROBABLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE NOISE CONCERNS, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A NOISE STUDY DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY DON'T KNOW THE END TENANT. SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW NOISE THEY WILL BE, HOW MUCH THEY STILL GENERATE. ASSUMING THE TOWN HOME PEOPLE GOT NOTICE OF THIS PROPOSED CHANGE? YES. MM-HMM . UM, AND IF IT GOES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MM-HMM . THEN IT MAY BE A WAREHOUSE NOW. BUT IN REALITY THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED RIGHT ON THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO THEY ARE IN TWO SEPARATE DISTRICTS, AS I POINTED OUT THERE IN THE DISTRICT ONE. AND THE PORTION IS IN DISTRICT FIVE. SO ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MEETING WITH BOTH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HAD BEEN WORKING ON PROHIBITED LINE USE LIST. IT'S SO MASSIVE. I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET WITH THE FULL LIST OF ALL THE USE THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IN C VERSUS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL VERSUS THEIR, UH, PROPOSED PD. BUT HERE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT I WANTED TO CAPTURE. I THINK THAT'S BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY DIDN'T WANNA SEE A, A FREIGHT TERMINALS OR TRUCK STOP WITH GAS. THEY WANTED TO PROHIBIT ANY AUTOMOTIVE RELATED USES THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH SALES REPAIRS AND, UH, SALVAGING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE WAITING ON KIND OF A FINAL FEEDBACK 'CAUSE THEY HAD A MEETING AND PROVIDED SOME LISTS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN A FINAL ANSWER ON THE FULL LIST. BUT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE GO THIS. YEAH. 'CAUSE WHAT IT, WHAT IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF, AND I DON'T REMEMBER, AND MICHELLE'S NOT HERE, BUT I THINK SHE WAS MOST INVOLVED WITH IT, OR MAYBE YOU TOO, CHERYL. THERE WAS A FACILITY DOWN NEAR I 20 THAT, UH, WAS DOING A LOT OF OUTSIDE STORAGE AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. I FORGET WHAT DEAL IT WAS. FLEXING GEAR. YEAH. YEAH, MAYBE. AND I DON'T KNOW, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANALOGY TO THAT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE IS THAT EASEMENT THAT GOES BETWEEN THERE. SURE. BUT THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE. I'LL RAISE THAT STUFF WITH YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I I'M GLAD YOU PUT ALL THAT IN THERE ONCE WHAT, I GUESS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING SO MANY WAREHOUSES. ARE THESE COMPANIES MOSTLY COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN? DO THEY WANT THEIR OWN SETUP AND SALES? I WONDERING, WE HAVE A LOT OF HOW MANY VACANT WAREHOUSES WE HAVE THAT ARE NOT BEEN BUILT BUT NOT OCCUPIED AT ALL. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S MORE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE ACQUA ECONOMY DEVELOPMENT MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE, I WAS CURIOUS MM-HMM . SURE. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY HAVE SOME, SO MANY WAREHOUSES CLOSE NEARBY. YEAH. YEAH. BUT RESORT OF THE MARKET, UM, INDUSTRIAL IS GOING AND GOING AND THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO INVEST TO BE ABLE TO RECLAIM THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, THEIR END USERS, EVERYBODY'S USING AMAZON, EVERYBODY'S USING SHOP FOR HOME. THESE ARE THE DISTRIBUTIONS FACILITIES. THE STORE OR MORE SUITABLE, THE, THE MONEY IN. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS IN IT, BUT THE MONEY IN IT IS EXTENSIVE. SO, UM, THE UPFRONT COSTS THAT WOULD TYPICALLY SCARE SOMEBODY AWAY. IT DOESN'T SCARE AWAY INDUSTRIAL USERS. WELL, I GUESS IT'S A SIGN OF THE TIME. YES. IT'S A SIGN OF THE TIME AND JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THERE AREN'T ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEARBY RESIDENTS, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. IF YOU KNOW THE, THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, NOT YET. BUT YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY CONTINUE TO RECEIVE LETTERS. SO ANY LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVE, WE'LL DEFINITELY INCLUDE IT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR RASHAD. RASHAD, JUST MY EDIFICATION. WHEN YOU HAVE A SCENARIO LIKE THIS AND YOU HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY ON ONE SIDE OF IT MM-HMM . DOES THE LETTER GO TO JUST THE APARTMENT OWNER OR DOES IT GO TO THE APARTMENT RESIDENCES? APARTMENT OWNER. OKAY. IT MAY NOT SHARE, BUT THAT'S NOT RED FLAG. WELL, THE, THE IDEA IS IT'S REALLY AFFECTING THE PROPERTY OWNER MORE SO THAN THE RESIDENTS. WE ARE CONSIDERED OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE ON LEASE TERMS. SO FROM A STATE STANDPOINT, THEY'RE FOCUSED ON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTIES FOR NOTIFICATION. I KNOW, BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF TACKY. YOU, YOU, YOU'RE IN THERE AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING COMING, YOU DON'T [00:15:01] KNOW ANYTHING. I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE DUTY OF THE OWNER TO DO IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT'S JUST TO ME, COMMON COURTESY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION, ASK THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY HAVE A CONTACT WITH THE RESIDENTS OR NOT. UM, AGAIN, USUALLY YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT TYPE OF SCENARIO, REACHING OUT TO THE, THE RESIDENCE. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING SOMEBODY JUST GO DOOR TO DOOR IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF SCENARIO. WELL, NO, I KNOW THAT NORMALLY WHEN, IF IT'S A ON A, THEY HAVE A A, THEY JUST SEND OUT A MEMO TO SAY THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE WAY THEY WOULD DO THAT. SO KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHO ALL THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS ARE. SO WE WOULDN'T REALLY LEGALLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT WE DO POST, THERE IS SIGNAGE THAT'S POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE WILL DRIVE BY AND THEY'LL SEE THAT SIGN AND THEY'LL KNOW. AND IF THEY WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON IT, THEY, THE INFORMATION IS THERE FOR THEM TO GET. SO IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM THROUGH THAT POSTING. IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. YEAH. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO CONSIDER SOME OF THE PEOPLE MAY MOVE HERE BECAUSE THEY WANNA WORK IN THOSE WAREHOUSES. SO APARTMENTS, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YEP. SO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE ALSO COMPANION ITEM. IT'S THE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT. THIS IS ALSO A ZONE CHANGE AND A, UH, CONSE PLAN AMENDMENT. SO I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU GUYS WOULD BE MORE FAMILIAR IF I EXPLAINED THIS IS TO THE, DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS WHERE WE SAW THAT ONE SINGLE WAREHOUSE. AND RECENTLY WE SAW A PROPOSAL FOR POSSIBLE DATA CENTER OPTION AND THEY HAD ADOPTED ANOTHER CONCEPT PLAN. SO THIS SUBJECT AREA WAS ACTUALLY REZONED BACK IN THE DAY WHEN, UM, THAT PARTICULAR APPLICANT THOUGHT THEY COULD DO LIKE A MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS GENERAL AREA. NOW THAT THIS AREA IS BEING DEVELOPED AS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEY'RE COMING BACK HERE AND SAYING, HEY, WE FEEL THAT THE LAND IS TOO NARROW TO CARRY OUT. YOU KNOW, THOSE OTHER CONCEPTS THAT WE OR ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FOR MULTIFAMILY. CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING? THAT'S WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED HERE. SO AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS CHANGED TO, UM, HIGH DENSITY BECAUSE OF THAT PD THAT WE APPROVED. NOW THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO BE, UM, BE TO ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WHICH IS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. SO STEP IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT LAN MAP CHANGE BECAUSE THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE LAN MAP. HOWEVER, THE REQUEST CHANGE MATCHES THE PREDOMINANT USE OF THE AREA. SO THIS IS THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. THEY ARE REQUESTING A CHANGE FROM PD FOR MULTIFAMILY USE TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PD WITH CONS PLANS FOR DIFFERENT, UH, SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE LAYOUTS. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT A LOT IS LOCATED HERE. THEY HAVE A, UH, 1 61 KIND OF RAISED IN THAT AREA. AND IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ACROSS THE HARD, HARD ROCK. BUT THIS IS WHERE, UH, WE HAVE THE ENCORE HAVING THEIR YES. MM-HMM . IF YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION. THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED. YES. . OKAY. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A END USER IN MIND EITHER. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK HEADS UP, THEY ARE KEEPING THOSE TWO WAREHOUSES SAME ON ALL THEIR CONCEPT. YOU SEE THAT CONSISTENTLY THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ARE REMAINING. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WANNA KEEP BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT 50,000 SQUARE FEET HAS THE HIGHER CHANCE OF ATTRACTING ONE SINGLE TENANT WHO PROBABLY WANTS TO OWN THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO THEY, THOSE TWO WILL FUNCTION AS AN ANCHOR. THEY JUST HAVEN'T, UM, FOUND OUT IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ATTRACT HOW MANY END USERS. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING CONCEPT A, WHERE THEY'LL HAVE THE INTERNAL TRUCK COURTS BETWEEN THESE LARGER BUILDINGS OR MAYBE TWO BUILDINGS WHERE IT CAN BE SPLIT WITH THE LITTLE MORE TRUCK COURT AREA THAT THEY CAN PROBABLY ATTRACT SOME DIFFERENT TYPE OF USERS WHO MIGHT PREFER THIS LAYOUT OR THEY WANNA SEE IF THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SMALLER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES. AGAIN, THIS IS THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. UH, WE NEVER REALLY SEEN THIS MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTED TO, UM, PRESENT. THEY ARE PROVIDING CONSTANT ELEVATIONS WHERE THEY WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE, UH, EXIT MATERIALS AND MASON, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPENDIX X. THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES. AS YOU NOTICE THEIR [00:20:01] LOTS ARE VERY LONG AND NARROW AND THEY HAVE A SERVICE ROAD, HARD ROCK AND ROCK ISLAND. SO BASED ON OUR APPENDIX X REQUIREMENT, THEY WILL LOSE 30 FEET HERE FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFER, 30 FEET HERE FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFER, ANOTHER 30 FEET TO THE NORTH FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH TAKES AWAY 60 FEET OF DEVELOPABLE LAND. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG SOUTH, UM, 1 61 AND HARD ROCK TO BE REDUCED BY 10 FEET EACH. SO IT'LL BE 20 AND 20. AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR, TO PROVIDE ONLY 15 FOOT OF LANDSCAPING ALONG ROCK ISLAND RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR PARKING REDUCTION. RIGHT NOW WE REQUIRE THE OFFICES TO BE PARKED AT ONE PER 3 25. THAT'S KIND OF A STANDARD NUMBER BASED ON, UH, BUILDING TYPES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THEY'RE ASKING TO COMBINE AND PROPOSE THEIR OWN RATIO OF ONE PER SIX 50 AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR WALL HEIGHT REDUCTION. SO, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING THEIR WING WALL. SO THEY HAVE TO SCREEN THE TRUCK DOCK AREA WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE WALL PROJECTING OUT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A STRUCTURE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A SOLID NATIONALLY WALL. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT ALONG 1 61 TOWARD THE, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING TOWARDS SOUTH, YOU SEE THOSE NEW WAREHOUSES. THEY HAVE LIKE A CONCRETE WALL IN THEIR TRUCK COURT, UM, BASED ON THEIR BUILDING HEIGHT, IT HAS TO BE 25 FEET. THEY'RE ASKING IT TO BE REDUCED TO 14 FEET. UM, I THINK WE KIND OF DISCUSSED BEFORE, TYPICAL TRUCK HEIGHT IS ABOUT 13 FEET. SO THEY'RE SAYING THEY THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT. WE HAVE GRANTED SIMILAR VARIANCES. ANOTHER LOCATIONS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM DRC, SORRY, IT'S QUITE LENGTHY, ONE IS THAT WE REQUEST THAT THEY PROVIDE AUTHORITY FOR LANDSCAPE AS REQUIRED. TWO, WE ARE ASKING, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, UM, DURING SITE PLAN PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL THEIR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COMPLY WITH OUR PARK REGULAR PARKING STANDARD. WE'RE ALSO ASKING IF THIS CONCEPT WAS DEVELOPED. YOU SEE HOW THAT NOW THEY WILL HAVE A TRUCK COURT KIND OF FACING HARD ROCK, WHICH IS NOT HEAVILY TROUBLED BY RESIDENTS, BUT IT IS STILL FACING OUR PRIVATE DRIVE, OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE SAID ADDITIONAL SCREENS SHOULD BE PROVIDED ALONG HARD ROCK SO THAT THE TRUCK TALKS WILL BE LESS VISIBLE. AND WE'RE ALSO ASKING IF THIS CONCEPT WAS PROVIDED. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THAT PEOPLE PARK ON EACH EDGE AND THEN THEY USE THE COMMON, UH, CORRIDOR, ALMOST PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AS THEIR TRUCK LOADING AREAS. YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE RESIDENTIAL ALLEYS, BUT WE'RE SEEING IF YOU DO THAT, WE JUST DON'T WANNA SEE ANY OVERHEAD DOORS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SMALLER CONTRACTORS, THEY SOMETIMES LIKE TO HAVE THEIR FRONT DOOR AND A OVERHEAD DOOR IN THEIR PARKING SO THEY CAN ROLL IT UP, ENTER IN AND THEY CAN GO INTO THE OFFICE, LOAD IT UP AND GET THE TRUCK OUT. BUT BECAUSE THE CONCEPT SHOWS THAT BACK ROW AND THE INTERNAL DRIVER THAT HE CANNOT HAVE THE OVERHEAD DOORS, WE'RE SAYING JUST DON'T HAVE IT ALL ON 1 61. OKAY. AND THE LAST THING IS, WE ARE, UM, SAYING WHATEVER THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE 1 61 BEING KIND OF RAISED IN THAT AREA. SO WE'RE SAYING WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE OF REDUCTION FROM 25 FEET, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE A LINE OF SIGHT DRAWING THAT SHOWS KIND OF, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL TRULY BE SEEING, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WHATEVER THE HEIGHT OF THE WIND WALL THEY PROVIDE ACTUALLY IS, UH, SUFFICIENT TO COVER UP SOME OF THOSE TRUCK DUCTS. BUT FROM THE ELEVATED 1 61, NO, PROBABLY NOT. BUT WE, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE 14 FEET IS ENOUGH TO SCREEN. WE MAY HAVE TO RAISE IT UP TO CERTAIN FEET, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS. YOU'LL BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLETELY SCREEN ALL THE TRUCK DUST BECAUSE IT'S VERY DEEP. BUT WE JUST DON'T WANT, WE JUST WANNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT THEN GIVING OUT FLAT 14 FOOT VARIANCE WITHOUT ANY EXHIBITS. OKAY. THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION. , I BELIEVE. YES. . I BELIEVE THAT THE ON IT'S A LOT. YEAH. I BELIEVE THE, UH, APPLICANT WILL BE HERE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S PRETTY WELL, VERY WELCOME. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, OR THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. I WAS EATING. THANK YOU. YEAH. WHAT IS STAFF'S VIEW ON WHY THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE PARKING SPACE RATIO? TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT REALLY SURE. UM, THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHY THEIR REASONING IS, THE REASON THAT STEPH FEELS A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE SUPPORTING IT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T [00:25:01] KNOW THE END USERS. WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A PARKING PROBLEM, THAT'S ALL. UM, I DON'T EITHER, BUT YEAH, WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T THEIR, THEY KNOW THEIR CUSTOMERS BETTER. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. NO, BUT, BUT THEY'RE MM-HMM . THEY KNOW WHO THEY'RE ATTRACTING. YEAH. MM-HMM. ATTRACT, I WOULD THINK, I MEAN, YOU KIND OF HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IF WE AGREE TO ALL THESE GUIDELINES OR RECOMMENDATIONS YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THE, THE AVAILABILITY OF PARKING IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT A PROSPECTIVE TENANT LOOKS AT, RIGHT. THAT I DON'T KNOW, IT'S, I ALL OF YOUR OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS I AGREED WITH, BUT I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY MIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT THEIR END GAME WAS. BUT DO PARKING SPACES COST MORE THAN THE BUILDING? I THINK THE BUILDING WOULD COST A LOT MORE. THE BUILDING COSTS MORE, BUT DEPENDING ON, ON THE END USER THAT THEY'RE GOING AFTER THE MARKET, THEY MAY NOT NEED ALL THAT PARKING. UH, IF SOMEBODY SEES THIS SORT OF LIKE A, JUST A INDIVIDUAL STOREFRONT, THEY'RE WHOLESALE. LIKE WE HAVE HERE OFF OF 30, UM, OFF OF GIVER STREET AND MACAU, THAT SMALL LITTLE STRIP OF INDUSTRIAL WHERE YOU HAVE, I THINK THEY HAVE A USED BIKE, ATVS AND WHATNOT. MM-HMM . THAT'S JUST A SMALL BUSINESS THAT USES IT AS A SHOWROOM AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED ALL THE INDUSTRIAL PARKING THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE FOR TRUCKS AND WHATNOT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR HERE. IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION, SLIM PROPERTY, BUT IT'S JUST THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS, UH, APPRECIATE JUNE ADDRESSING ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES JUST IN CASE. UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEST SUITED ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PARKING, BUT IN ALL OPTIONS, N NEITHER OPTION A, B OR C, NONE OF THEM COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE. I THINK THEY'RE JUST REQUESTING THE VARIANCE FOR THIS OPTION. OKAY. C MM-HMM . YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS JIM. OKAY. SORRY. SORRY. I KNOW. GOOD EVENING. AN ITEM TO PRESENT Y'ALL TONIGHT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE SOUTH GRAND PRAIRIE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND MAP. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT ARE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS TO THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, UPDATING THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND MAP. UH, WE HAD THE SOUTHGATE 360 CORRIDOR PLAN DONE IN 2021, THAT AMENDED THE CONFERENCE PLAN WITH SOME NEW ROADWAY ALIGNMENTS. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING BACK AND AMENDING THE CONFERENCE PLAN AGAIN. ESSENTIALLY WE'RE REPLACING THE ALIGNMENTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THAT CORRIDOR PLAN. SO THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF 2 87 AND NORTH OF 67. IT'S PRIMARILY ETJ, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THE AREA THAT WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED. NOW BACKGROUND ON THIS. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SET A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT'S MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CONCEPTUAL LAND PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND PROVIDE REALTY BACK LAST YEAR. UH, THAT WAS IN APRIL OF 2024. AND REALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SO WE CAN SUPPORT THE LAND USES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON THAT PROPERTY AND THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE ROADWAY NEEDS, UM, WITH THOSE ASSOCIATED IMPACTS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, WE HAD, UM, PROVIDENT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES USE A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER TO COME UP WITH A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS DID WAS TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE LAND USES THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THAT CONCEPTUAL LAND PLAN, SEND THOSE TRIPS OUT ONTO A ROADWAY NETWORK AND THEN ANALYZE, OKAY, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE? AND ARE THE ROADS THE RIGHT CAPACITIES TO HANDLE THAT? UM, SO THAT SET THE ALIGNMENTS, UH, LOCATION AND THE CAPACITIES THAT WAS IN THE, UH, RESULTS OF THE ANALYSIS STAFF REVIEWED THOSE RESULTS AND APPROVED OF THOSE RESULTS. UM, SO HERE ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SHOW WHAT, UH, THAT MODEL PRODUCED. UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS LEVELS OF SERVICE AT A 10 YEAR BUILD OUT. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE WILL PLAN FOR A THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20 YEARS. UM, SO IN THIS CASE IT WAS A 10 YEAR BUILD OUT BASED ON THEIR ASSUMPTIONS. UH, ON TIMELINE, UH, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE THE ACTUAL, UH, VOLUMES. I HAVE A LARGER MAP AT THE END OF PRESENTATION IF NEEDED. AND THEN THE MAP ON THE RIGHT ALSO SHOWS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WAS ACHIEVED AT THAT 10 YEAR BUILD OUT. THE ONES THAT ARE MORE YELLOW ARE LEVELS OF SERVICE D THAT IS THE LOWEST ACCEPTABLE ONE THAT WE WILL, UH, HAVE FOR THE CITY. UH, ANYTHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LIME GREEN, DARK GREEN, THOSE ARE CS AND BS, WHICH WE THINK ARE PRETTY GOOD. UH, RESULTS, UH, I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MODEL DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE [00:30:01] EXTENSION OF STATE HIGHWAY 360. IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WIDENING OF FM 1 57 ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. AND IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE US 2 87 FRONTAGE ROAD PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED. THE STUDY DOES RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE VERY CRITICAL FOR THIS AREA, UM, IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT NECESSARY TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT'S PROPOSING, AT LEAST ON THE INTERNAL NETWORK. SO ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE OUR CURRENT THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED THOROUGHFARE PLAN. I WENT AHEAD AND MADE THEM DASHED. UH, YOU SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXACTLY THE ROADS THAT WE'RE CHANGING. UM, OVERALL IT'S A RELATIVELY SIMILAR PLAN. THERE'S THE, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST WEST CONNECTORS FOR ARTERIALS THAT WE HAD IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN. BUT THIS IS MORE RIGHT SIZED AND ROADWAY LOCATIONS ARE ADJUSTED TO MEET SOME OF THE LAND USE NEEDS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHILE MAINTAINING THOSE LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THIS DID GO THROUGH DRC AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE DID PRESENT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT KIT, UH, COMMITTEE LAST WEEK AND THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. SO I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ANOTHER LOADED FIRST PROTECTION . Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST, I JUST HAVE ONE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ME ASKING IT CORRECTLY, BUT DO YOU WORK AT ALL WITH, UH, UH, THE MEAN, THE, UH, NTTA AND ALL THOSE FOLKS? YES. AS YOU PREPARING THIS, ARE THEY SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH YOU OR, SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH NTTA ON THE 360 EXTENSION. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT ON THIS MAP IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR ALIGNMENT'S GOING TO BE. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO AHEAD OF THEM AND SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT WITHOUT THEM BEING DONE THAT ANALYSIS. SO I'M SURE WHEN THEY HAVE THAT, UM, AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN, LIKE I SAID, IN A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THEM, ONCE THEY HAVE THAT ALIGNMENT PRETTY, UH, SET, WE WILL COME BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE THIRD THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS WELL. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE, WE'D BE MAKING ALL THESE PLANS AND THAT THEY WOULDN'T GO, WOULD BE FIASCO. YEAH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM IN TDOT ON EVERY ROADWAY OUT THERE AND, AND THEY ARE AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THESE PLANS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JUST A COMMENT FOR, FOR BRAD THERE AS WELL. UM, I DROVE BY 27 GOING SOUTH AND I'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS SIGNAGE. YES, SIR. UM, CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT MY FIRST, OKAY, SO I, I JUST WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES AND HOW WE ENCOMPASS THAT? SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MORE JUST OUR JURISDICTION IN ETJ? NO, I'VE GOT TIFFANY HERE, SO HOPEFULLY I DON'T SAY ANYTHING WRONG. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ETJ, WE TYPICALLY HAVE SUBDIVISION AUTHORITY, WHICH USUALLY INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO ROADWAY ALIGNMENTS AND WITS AND CLASSIFICATIONS. SO AS THESE PROJECTS COME ONLINE AND START DEVELOPING, WE'LL ASK THAT THOSE SUBDIVISIONS FOLLOW THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACCORDINGLY. UM, SO IF THEY'RE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE GOING BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE IN THAT DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, WHICH IS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL, IF AS LONG AS THEY'RE KIND OF STICKING TO THAT, THEN WE THINK THAT THIS MODEL WILL BE A PRETTY GOOD GUIDE MOVING FORWARD. NOW IF THEY GO TO CHANGE AND THEY'RE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOME OTHER KIND OF USE, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND ADJUST THIS MODEL, UM, AND ADJUST THE, THE, THE PLAN TO HELP SUPPORT THAT NEED. UM, AND THAT'LL BE AN AMENDMENT WITH THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME AUTHORITY IN THE ETJ, NOT AS MUCH AS WE DO IN THE CITY LIMITS. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO REGULATE AND CONTROL SUBDIVISION DESIGN, WHICH INCLUDES THE ROADWAY, LOCATIONS AND LAYOUTS. IS IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ELLIS COUNTY OR, UM, I THINK THAT AREA IS IT. SO WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTIES ON, ON THAT. UM, GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY REALM ON WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLATTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE ROADWAY MAINTENANCE, UH, ONCE THAT IS CONSTRUCTED IN ETJ, IT'S USUALLY DEPENDENT ON IF THERE IS A MUNICIPAL DISTRICT OUT THERE THAT'S DOING THE MAINTENANCE. IF IT'S A COUNTY ROAD, UM, THEN WE'D HAVE TO LEAN ON THE COUNTY FOR THOSE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. AND THEN AS WELL, WE'VE GOT ANNEXED AREAS OF THE CITY. ANY ROADS BUILT IN THAT AREA WOULD THEN BE OUR MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO THANK YOU. IT'S COMPLICATED, . I DON'T, YEAH. LOT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS. THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE DONE WITH THE BREAK THING AT, UH, 6:07 PM AND WE, UM, MEET AGAIN HERE AT SIX 30. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.