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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRANBURY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 27TH, 2025.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS AN A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE, CHERYL SMITH.
HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR FRANK GONZALEZ.
AND NOW, UM, JOHN FCO WILL GIVE, COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.
AND AFTER THAT, COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN WILL LEAD US TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US FOR THE, ALLOWING THE COMMISSION TO COME TOGETHER TONIGHT TO DISCUSS CITY BUSINESS.
WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR THE WORK THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE PUT FORWARD FOR THE, UH, CITY STAFF TO REVIEW AND, UM, AND GIVE US GUIDANCE ON THOSE CASES AS WE STUDY EACH CASE.
LORD, WE ASK YOU FOR AN ABILITY TO DISCERN WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY HOLISTICALLY, AND THAT IT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF CITIZENS, BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS TO OUR CITY.
WE THANK YOU, LORD TO ALLOW US TO CARRY OUT THIS, UH, THIS MISSION, UH, UNDER YOUR GRACE.
PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US IN THE US AND TEXAS PLEDGES.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR AND FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE S ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL AND AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.
THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF.
APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN.
EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU PRESENT, REPRESENT IF APPLICABLE.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OF FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME.
CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM.
WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO.
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, VOTE TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR OF THE PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC CONSENT HEARING.
AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR BY COMMISSIONER JOHN DUCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
[5. STP-24-12-0046 - Site Plan - Metro Custom Plastics (City Council District 1). Site Plan for a 99,530 sq. ft. Fabrication/Assembly Plastic Product facility on 10.323 acres. Tract 5E out of Tapley Holland Survey, Abstract No. 750, and Lot 80A, GSID South Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-458 (LI), and approximated addressed as 870 S Great Southwest Pkwy]
CASE, PLEASE.THE NEXT ITEM IS A SITE PLAN FOR METRO CUSTOM PLASTICS.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED LOCATION OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.
THE APPLICANT DID COME THROUGH WITH A ZONING REQUEST IN 2024, SO THIS PROJECT SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
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IS FOR A SITE PLAN FOR A FABRICATION, ASSEMBLY PLASTIC PRODUCT FACILITY.IT'S ZONED PD 4 58, AND IT'S ON A LITTLE BIT OVER 10 ACRES.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 99, UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UH, IT MEETS OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AS, AS WELL AS OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN IS ON THE SCREEN.
IT MEETS OUR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, DID WANNA POINT OUT THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS RELATED TO THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN.
THE APPLICANT HAS CLARIFIED SOME INFORMATION WITH US AND NO ADDITIONAL, UH, MITIGATION FEES ARE REQUIRED.
UH, THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE CALIPER INCHES THAN ARE BEING REMOVED.
UH, THEY'RE BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THEY'RE MEETING THE BUILDING DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE IS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MUST BE PROVIDED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THE WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION PORTION OF THE BUSINESS SHALL NOT EXCEED 50% OF THE OPERATIONAL SQUARE FOOT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THAT THIRD, UM, CONDITION OF APPROVAL INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT CAN BE DELETED.
THEY HAVE MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER'S, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, RIGHT THERE ON THE LOWER YEAH, EITHER ONE IS FINE.
THE, I SEE THE PROPOSED RETENTION POND, AND THEN WHAT IS JUST NORTH OF THAT? OR WHAT IS THAT OTHER, IS THAT PART OF THE PROJECT? IT, IT IS.
BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, I'LL, I'LL ASK THEM WHEN THEY COME UP.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? I THINK WE'LL WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE A CARD FOR NICK HOBBS, THE APPLICANT.
UM, NICK HOBBS, UH, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.
AND WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
UH, BEN HAGAR, 2 2 2 WEST WALNUT STREET, SALINA, TEXAS.
UH, WE ARE THE, UH, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, DESIGN BUILD, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, UH, FOR METRO CUSTOM PLASTICS, UH, SPEAKING, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UH, THIS EVENING.
UM, SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE, UH, TO THE, UM, THE VALVE YARD THERE.
THAT IS, UH, A NEW, UM, GAS LINE THAT HAS COME THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE BUILT THAT, I THINK THAT WAS FINISHED THIRD SEC, UH, THIRD OR FOURTH QUARTER OF, OF LAST YEAR.
BUT THAT ENCLOSURES, IT'S A METAL, UH, UH, METAL PANEL ENCLOSURE.
AND THEN THAT'S THEIR, THEIR GAS RISER, UH, THAT CAME UP, UH, ABOVE GROUND.
THEY'VE GOT IT SCREENED, UM, BUT IT IS IN THAT AREA THERE.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT ALL THE PROPER EASEMENTS.
I'M PRETTY SURE OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANNA ASK YOU BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
IS, UM, THERE IS A ONE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.
SO HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS? YES, MA'AM.
PREZONING, UM, UH, REQUEST AND, AND APPLICATION? UH, WE MADE CONTACT WITH, UH, I THINK WE SENT OUT 51, UM, FLYERS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, HOMEOWNER.
AND THEN, UH, ACTUALLY DURING THE ZONING ONE, UH, ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS CAME AND, AND SPOKE, UH, AND WE'VE SINCE, UH, SPOKE WITH THEM AND ADDRESSED ALL OF THEIR, THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN I HAD WITH REGARD TO THAT BEING SORT, SORT OF IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA MM-HMM
UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION NOISE AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, ONE OF THE, THE CONCERNS OF THE, THE RESIDENT BACK THERE WAS NOISE, WAS THE TRAFFIC WAS LIGHTING AND ALL OF THAT.
AND WE, WE ADDRESSED ALL OF THAT DURING, UM, THE ZONING CASE.
UH, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, THE, THE BUSINESS IS 24 RUN RUNS 24 HOURS A DAY.
UH, BUT THEY DO HAVE, UH, DELIVERIES ONLY ON SHIFT A, UH, WHICH IS FROM SEVEN TO THREE.
UH, AND SO FROM SEVEN TO THREE, THEY'RE TAKING DELIVERIES.
ALL OTHER, UM, ACTIVITY IS DONE WITH INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY NOISE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING DURING THOSE, DURING THOSE HOURS.
SO ANY NOISE, UH, DELIVERIES, UM, FORKLIFTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD ALL BE DONE DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO, JUST TO CLARIFY, TO GO ALONG WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD OUTSIDE.
NOT, NO DELIVERIES ON THE WEEKDAYS.
YEAH, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT TOO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, IS THIS THE FIRST, UM, BUSINESS OF THIS TYPE THAT YOU HAVE, THIS
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THE PLASTICS BUSINESS? OR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? UH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M THE, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.BUT YOU'RE NOT AWARE, RIGHT? YES, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING FACILITY.
THEY'VE BEEN WITHIN, UH, A TWO MILE RANGE OF THIS AREA FOR THE LAST 51 YEARS.
UH, THEIR CURRENT LOCATION IS ON HUNDRED NINTH STREET, UH, IN ARLINGTON.
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST DOWN THE STREET.
UM, SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN ARLINGTON, ANOTHER CITY
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEFINITELY, UH, CHOOSING TO COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE AND BRING THEIR BUSINESS HERE.
UM, GREAT BUSINESS HERE, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE HAVE A CARD FROM SED ACHMED WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
I THINK HE ADDRESSED ALL, WHO DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK, UM, JUST, BUT, UH, WANTS TO NOTE HIS SUPPORT.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.
I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER KO'S AREA.
I DID, UM, I SPOKE WITH, UH, THE GENTLEMAN THERE OUTSIDE, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING, AND I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS, UM, FABRICATION, THIS INJECTION MOLDING THAT THEY DO PRODUCES NO FUMES, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH IS NICE, WHICH THAT SURPRISED ME, ACTUALLY.
BUT, UH, WITH THAT CA, WITH THAT BEING THE CASE AND HIS OUTREACH TO NEIGHBORS, I'D LIKE TO MO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE DISCUSSION ON ITEM FIVE AND VOTE TO APPROVE WITH, UM, STAFF'S, UH, REVISED RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM AFTER THE MOTIONS BEING MADE? UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ERCO TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
[6. SUP-25-0001 - Specific Use Permit - Rapido Lavanderia (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit for a Laundry (Self-Serve) facility in an existing commercial lease space on 2.18 acres. Tract 10, M. L. Swing Survey, Abstract No. 1446, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned General Retail, and tentatively addressed as 425 S Belt Line Rd]
NEXT CASE, PLEASE.THE ITEM NUMBER SIX IS SUP 0 1 0 0 SUP 25 0 1 0 0 0 1.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SELF-SERVE LA REMA.
SO THIS IS A SUP REQUEST FOR A SELF-SERVICE LAUNDROMAT LOCATED AT 4 25 SOUTH BE LANE.
THIS IS NEAR THE, UM, AVIAN VILLAGE AND NEAR THE ELEMENT MINISTRY SCHOOL, UM, IN THAT AREA.
SO THIS AERIAL VIEW KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW, UM, THERE ARE NEXT TO KIND OF A RECREATION CENTERS AND SCHOOLS, BUT SPORTS FIELD, BUT THEY ARE CLOSE BY, UM, MULTIFAMILY AND AVIAN VILLAGE AND OTHER RESIDENTIALS IN THAT AREA.
THE RED REPRESENTS THE EXEC SUITE LOCATION OF WHERE THIS BUSINESS WILL BE LOCATED.
WITHIN THAT EXISTING, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL STRIP, THEY ARE WANTING TO OPEN A 4,532 SQUARE FEET, SELF-SERVE LAUNDRYMAT WITH ABOUT 40 TO 50 WASHERS AND DRYERS.
THEY WILL, OF COURSE, HAVE SOME VENDING MACHINES FOR THEIR, UH, CUSTOMER USES, AND THEY WILL HAVE SOME LOBBY WITH, UH, SITTING TABLES AND SOME, UH, TVS AND GAMES AVAILABLE FOR CHILDREN.
THEY PLAN TO OPERATE FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM WITH 9:00 PM BEING DEEMED LAST, UH, WASH HOUR.
AND THEY WILL HAVE MINIMUM ONE, AN EMPLOYEE ON SITE DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS, MAY HAVE TWO TO THREE DURING THE PEAK HOURS.
THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SECURITY SYSTEM WITH, UM, MINIMUM 32 SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS TRYING TO CAPTURE ALL THE CORNERS OF THE BUSINESS.
HERE'S A QUICK SURVEY OF OTHER LAUNDROMATS THAT ARE EXISTING.
UM, THE ONE NEARBY IS ABOUT 0.3 MILES TO THE SOUTH, HOWEVER, I JUST WANTED YOU TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A FAIRLY SMALLER BUSINESS AT, AT THAT LOCATION.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER ONE KIND OF TOWARD THE NORTH, ABOUT POINT HALF A MILE AWAY, UH, CALLED AMIGO WASH AND DRIVE, BUT CONSIDER THAT THEY HAVE TO CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND OTHER THINGS TO TRAVEL THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, THE NEAREST, UM, ACTUAL SELF-SERVE LAUNDROMAT WILL BE ABOUT A MILE AWAY DOWN WEST.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
THIS CONCLUDES STEP PRESENTATION.
ANY STAFF FOR, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? THANK YOU AS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
SPEAKER CARDS? YES, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, NASSAR NAAB IS THE APPLICANT.
HE WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
NASSAR NA 5 1 1 9 RAD BURG DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, I'M JUST HERE TO SEE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING, THAT WE ARE JUST HONORED THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS, UH, BUSINESS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
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TAKEN SO MUCH THOUGHT INTO THE CREATION OF IT AND, AND ALL OF THE AMENITIES YOU HAVE FOR THE, UH, CHILDREN AND EVERYTHING.IT JUST TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO WORK ON THAT, AND THAT TO ME SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR BUSINESS.
IS THIS YOUR FIRST BUSINESS PERIOD, SIR? UH, NO.
WE ACTUALLY OWNED THE BUILDING.
I OWNED THE BUILDING TOO, BUT, UH, THIS, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1999 AND, UH, I, I BELIEVE THIS IS A 32ND LOCATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR GRAND PRAIRIE, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE CITIZENS ARE GONNA REALLY BE HAPPY WITH THIS.
UM, MA MADAM CHAIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID INCLUDE ONE OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE DID RECEIVE.
ONE WAS FROM THE EVIAN VILLAGE ACROSS THE STREET, BUT NO COMMENTS WAS PROVIDED THAT AS PART OF THE PACKET.
THANK, APPRECIATE THAT, THAT I, I DID SEE THAT OPPOSITION LETTER, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING, THERE WEREN'T ANY COMMENTS TO REVIEW, SO THERE WAS A CONCERN, A VALID CONCERN.
JUNE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS.
ALSO, MA'AM, YOU HAVE ANOTHER? NO FURTHER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.
THIS IS, UM, WHOSE AREA IS, THIS IS DISTRICT SIX.
THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER JANIE ARI, I'M SORRY.
VICTOR MEDINA, WHO'S THREE, WHO'S FIVE.
THAT IS YOU, JANIE, YOU'RE FIVE.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN.
YEAH, THAT IS, THAT IS YOUR AREA.
WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NO CONCERNS FOR AN EXPERIENCED GENTLEMAN OR AN EXPERIENCED BUSINESS OWNER? SO, AND LAUNDROMATS ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED, ESPECIALLY NICE ONES.
UM, BUT MADAM CHAIR, IF NOTHING FURTHER, I COULD DO A MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX SUP DASH 25 DASH 0 0 1 FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SIX BY JANIE COMMISSIONER JANIE, ARI, ANY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TAI CHAPMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[7. ZON-24-12-0030 - Zoning Change/Concept Plan - Constellation Rock Island Data Center (City Council District 1). Zoning Change from PD-450 for Light Industrial to a Planned Development District for Light Industrial and Data Center Use and Concept Plans depicting a 286,800 sq. ft. industrial building and a 401,244 sq. ft., two-story data center on 16.832 acres. Multiple tracts out of the John C Read Survey, abstract No. 1183, including Tracts 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, S7A, S-7-A, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-450, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 3514-3560 Hardrock Rd and 4701 Rock Island Rd]
ALL RIGHT.THIS NEXT ITEM IS A ZONING CHANGE SLASH CONCEPT PLAN FOR CONSTELLATION ROCK ISLAND DATA CENTER.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
CURRENT ZONING IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES WITH A DATA CENTER USE.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY'S, UH, 16.8 ACRES AND IT'S SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ROCK ISLAND AND HARD ROCK ROAD.
UM, SO THE MAIN, UH, REASON THIS REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED IS THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN APPROACHED BY A DATA CENTER AND END USER.
UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS TO ADD THAT AS AN ALLOWED USE.
UM, A SITE PLAN WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR A TYP TYPICAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE AT THIS LOCATION.
IF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE, UH, APPLICANT TO PURSUE EITHER A DATA CENTER END USER OR THE TRADITIONAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE FOR WHICH THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED.
UM, SO THIS, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROPOSED STANDARDS DEFINES THE DATA CENTER USE AS A FACILITY USED TO HOUSE A COLLECTION OF COMPUTER SERVERS AND ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS FOR THE REMOTE STORAGE PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA FOR USE BY OFFSITE END USERS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE CONCEPT PLAN ON THE SCREEN, UH, 401,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, TWO STORY DATA CENTER.
IT INCLUDES PARKING GENERATORS, UH, GUARD SHACK, AND THEN A POSSIBLE FUTURE SUBSTATION.
THIS IS A ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE LINES IN YELLOW REPRESENT, UH, SCREENING THEIR PROPOSED, UH, WING WALL TO THE SCREEN, THE TRUCK DOCK DOOR, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE 25 FOOT TALL CONCRETE WALL SURROUNDING THE OUTDOOR GENERATORS.
UH, THE LINE IN RED REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USE, AND ONE OF STAFF'S CONDITION IS THAT THEY PROVIDE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL, UH, TO BETTER SCREEN THE, THOSE TWO USES.
UM, SEE, THESE ARE THEIR CONCEPTUAL BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THEIR PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AGAIN, DEFINES THAT DATA CENTER ASS, IT AS AN ALLOWED USE.
AND THEN IT ALSO ESTABLISHES THE PARKING CALCULATION.
DATA CENTERS TYPICALLY, UH, REQUIRE LESS EMPLOYEES.
UM, IT INCREASES THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT, UH, TO 140 FEET.
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UH, DOES PROPOSE SOME ALTERNATIVE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPING CALCULATIONS.UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THEY USE THE LANDSCAPE CALCULATIONS AND APPENDIX X.
UM, SO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE FIRST IS THAT CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING SHALL BE CONSIDERED A SEPARATE USE FROM DATA CENTER AND SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE GENERATOR YARD SHALL BE ENCLOSED AND SCREENED BY A 25 FOOT CONCRETE WALL AS DEPICTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT OF AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE SHALL FOLLOW THE APPENDIX X OF THE UDC AND EXHIBIT E PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARD SHALL ONLY APPLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DATA CENTER.
A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FEET MASONRY SCREENING WALL SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE.
A MINIMUM 35 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE AS DEPICTED IN THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER SHALL BE PLANTED WITH A DOUBLE ROW OF TREES AND SHRUBS OFFSET SO AS TO ACHIEVE OPAQUE SCREENING IN ADDITION TO THAT SCREENING WALL.
AND THEN THE BASE LANDSCAPING CALCULATIONS SHALL FOLLOW APPENDIX X.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME.
SO I'M WONDERING, YOU SAID THIS IS, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN THEY WANNA ADD DATA.
UM, SO WOULD LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COVER THE PROPOSED FUTURE SUBSTATION? YES.
THAT IS A, A USE THAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAD A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE GUARDS SHACK.
WE DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT IN THE BRIEFING.
WHERE EXACTLY IS THE, THE SHACK GUARD SHACK? IT IS LOCATED ALONG THE STREET AND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE MY MOUSE IS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE THAT WAS.
OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING IS THAT YOU REALLY, SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO, DID THEY DO A NOISE STUDY? BECAUSE FOR THE, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF GENERATORS AND ALL OF THAT.
I DON'T AT SOME POINT THAT THERE COULD BE NOISE.
AND SO THEY DID AS PART OF THEIR REQUEST, UH, CONDUCT A NOISE STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING CHANGE AND REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT MM-HMM
AND, UH, IT WAS WITHIN THOSE ACCEPTED, UH, NOISE RANGES, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONDITIONS.
WELL, LET'S JUST HOPE THAT THAT WORKS OUT THAT WAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NOISE WALL BY, BY MY HOUSE, AND YOU CAN HEAR NOISE OUTSIDE OF THAT SOMETIMES.
SO I'LL JUST, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL SO BE SUFFICIENT.
AND SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS STAFF'S RECOMMENDING AN EIGHT FOOT WALL INSTEAD OF SIX FOOT WALL.
IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, LANDSCAPING SCREENING ALONG THAT, UH, SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, UH, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A 25 FOOT CONCRETE WALL AROUND THE GENERATOR, UM, YARD.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE? YES.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, CHAIR, UH, WOMAN AND THE CHAIR, UH, THE COMMISSION, SCOTT ERMAN IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IN WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
HOW ARE YOU? THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SCOTT ERMAN, 4 0 4 7 0 1 ROCK ISLAND ROAD, GRAND PRAIRIE.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE LOCATION, UH, OF THIS FACILITY IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ROCK ISLAND AND HARD ROCK ROAD, UM, JUST WEST OF, UH, HIGHWAY 1 61, SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 180 3.
UH, HERE'S A BETTER AERIAL DEPICTING THE SITE.
UM, ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE IS DIRECTLY WEST OF OUR SITE IS, UH, IS AN ENCORE SWITCHING STATION THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY ENCORE.
UH, THIS WAS REALLY THE TICKET, UH, TO REALLY PROCURING A, A DATA CENTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON SITE, UH, GETTING U END USER INTEREST, UH, FOR A POTENTIAL DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT.
UH, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE TRANSMISSION LINE SUBSTATION DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR AS A COMPARISON TO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ON OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THE TOP FOOTPRINT, UH, IS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FROM A CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT IS, IS THE, UH, SITE PLAN FOR THE POTENTIAL DATA CENTER.
UM, JUST, JUST GIVEN THE, UH, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE SUBSTATION ON OUR SITE PLAN, ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE, UM, IT DOES NOTE AS A FUTURE SUBSTATION AREA, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH WITH ENCORE IS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO DIRECTLY TIE OUR POWER INTO THEIR SUBSTATION YARD.
THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN LIEU OF DEVELOPING A SUBSTATION AFTER SEVERAL CALLS, SEVERAL ATTEMPTS.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY NON-COMMITTAL ON THAT ROUTE.
AND WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE THE CHOICE,
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WE'RE HAVING TO BE, UH, PROCEED WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD LIKELY BE DEVELOPING A SUBSTATION ON SITE.UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS OUR PREFERENCE, AND I THINK IT IS PROBABLY THE EASIER PATH TO TIE DIRECTLY INTO THE EXISTING SUBSTATION NEXT DOOR.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THAT, THAT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF ENCORE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT TRANSPARENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
DID YOU SAY WHICH, WHERE DID YOU SAY IT WAS THE CURRENT SUBSTATION? I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T, UH, ORIENT.
IS THIS CORRECTLY? BUT, UM, WELL, THAT THESE GENERATORS THAT YOU SEE HERE, UHHUH,
THEY WILL BE FACING WEST DIRECTLY TOWARDS, UH, THE, THE ONCOR SUBSTATION.
BUT I DIDN'T SEE A, WELL, ANYTHING THAT LOOKED LIKE A SUBSTATION ON THE PLAN, LIKE ON THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALL, SO I'LL TRY TO SEE IF HIGHLIGHTED.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, CONTRARY TO A TYPICAL SUBSTATION IS WHAT'S CALLED A SWITCHING STATION.
IT'S THE CONVERGENCE OF MINI TRANSMISSION LINES THAT FEED ALL ACROSS DFW MM-HMM
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, UH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE PROLIFIC THAN THE TYPICAL SUBSTATION PROXIMITY.
AND THEN, UM, ANY REASON WHY, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR, THE OTHER PLAN? YEAH.
UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WOULD'VE LOCATED THAT FUTURE POTENTIAL SUBSTATION NEXT TO THE RESIDENCES VERSUS NEXT TO THE ROAD? YES.
IT, IT ALLOWS FOR DIRECT, UH, TRANSMISSION ACCESS TO THE SUBSTATION WE'D BE CONNECTING TO ON ENCORE SITE E EVEN ON THE NORTH SIDE THOUGH, IT WOULD TOO.
SO IT'S ON THE ROCK ISLAND SIDE.
IS, IT'S RIGHT THERE WOULD BE ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
AND WE WOULD BE CONNECTING RIGHT HERE.
NOT TO THE PART ON THE NORTH? CORRECT.
AND THEN, UM, HOW TALL MIGHT THAT SUB, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUBSTATION AND THE HEIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROXIMITY TO THE HOMES NEARBY.
UM, ARE THESE, IS THIS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL IF IT WERE TO GO IN AT A FUTURE DATE? CORRECT.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN OUR, OUR, UH, HEIGHT, UH, REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE PD WE'RE REQUESTING.
AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'LL BE THERE IS ABOUT 45 TO 65 FEET TALL.
SO A LOT TALLER THAN THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE OR WALL THAT MIGHT GO BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THOSE MOBILE HOMES? IT, WELL, THE, THE, THE, UH, MASONRY WALL IS THERE TO SCREEN THE EQUIPMENT, THE RIGHT, THE NOISE GENERATING EQUIPMENT THAT'S BELOW THAT, UM, MM-HMM
BUT, BUT YES, SO IT'LL BE BASICALLY IN LINE WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE OF OUR MAIN BUILDING, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 58 FEET.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, I NOTICED YOU HAVE A, UM, YOU HAVE A GUARDHOUSE DOWN ON THE, UM, WHAT'S THE EAST SIDE, BUT I DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF PROTECTION ON THE NORTH SIDE? I'M JUST CURIOUS ACTUALLY.
UH, SO THIS WILL BE, SORRY, I CAN'T GET MY PHONE.
UH, THIS WILL BE FENCED OFF COMPLETELY.
IT'LL BE A FULLY, FULLY FENCED OFF PROPERTY, UM, ALL AROUND THE, THE CAR PARKING AREA THAT YOU SEE WHAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NOTED.
YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY NOTES FOR THAT.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FOR DARKO.
I KIND OF WANNA ADD ON TO THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN MADE.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER 'CAUSE THAT, THAT THAT SUBSTATION IS NEVER GONNA BE ENCORE PROPERTY.
THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR PROPERTY.
UH, IT, IT WOULD BE ENCORE'S PROPERTY.
SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, THE PROCESS OF, OF DIRECTLY OWNING AND OPERATING THE SUBSTATION PRIVATELY.
UH, HOWEVER, UM, RECENT EVENTS HAVE LED US TO LIKELY SELL AND DEDICATE THIS LAND TO ENCORE TO OWN AND OPERATE THEMSELF, SELL AND DEDICATE THAT LAND PLUS AN EASEMENT TO THAT LAND.
AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN PUT THAT SUBSTATION ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THAT 'CAUSE IT THERE, ALL THAT SUBSTATION EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S ON ROCK ISLAND IS ALL IT ABUTS.
ROCK ISLAND, YOU, YOU'RE ABUTTING A MOBILE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABUTTING RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH.
AND I, I, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND, AND THE, THE TRANSMISSION LINES I MENTIONED THAT WE WERE CONNECTING TO ARE HERE.
AND IF WE WERE TO PUT THAT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CROSS THIS, WHICH WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY, THEY, YOU CANNOT HAVE THE STRUCTURES UNDERNEATH THE TRANSMISSION LINE, UH, THAT THEY HAVE HERE.
WHO IS THAT? YOU MUST BE CONTIGUOUS TO SOMEBODY OTHER THAN ENCORE.
RIGHT? THERE'S SOMEBODY BETWEEN YOU AND THE SUBSTATION, YOU IN THAT TRANSMISSION LINE.
THIS, THIS IS, THIS, THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY IS ENCORE.
IN FACT, UH, OUR, OUR CURRENT SITE, UH, SERVES AS A STORAGE FACILITY LEASE FOR ENCORE THAT EXPIRES AT THE END OF APRIL THIS MONTH OR THIS YEAR.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR END USERS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COMPANIES PER SE OR JUST INDIVIDUAL END USERS? SO YOU'RE,
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BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, IT'S JUST ONE GROUP THAT, THAT'S COMING IN, OR WOULD BE LIKE, JUST VARIOUS, UH, UM, CELL OWNED, UH, END USERS.THERE'S NO, UH, PARTICULAR END USER IN MIND.
UM, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MARKETING THIS TO SEVERAL POTENTIAL END USERS.
UH, AND, AND REALLY THERE ARE A VARIETY OF WAYS IT COULD GO, BUT MOST OF THEM WOULD BE HIGH END CORPORATE USERS THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THE FACILITY.
WOULD, WOULD ONE OF THOSE BE LIKE, IF THERE'S A BIG EVENT IN THE AREA THAT, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A FACILITY AVAILABLE TO, TO, TO, TO DO A LOT OF, UH, DATA IF NEEDED? WOULD IT JUST BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR SHORT PERIODS OF TIME OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LONG RANGE? I, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE PARTICULAR FACILITIES ARE HIGHLY SECURITIZED AND MM-HMM
AND IT CAN EITHER COME IN THE, UH, FORM OF A CO-LOCATION CENTER, WHICH, UH, WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO OWNS AND OPERATES THE FACILITY, BUILDS OUT THE POWER, AND THEN LEASES OUT THE POWER TO MANY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES FOR THEIR CLOUD STORAGE.
UH, OR IT COULD BE LEASING OUT TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, WHICH IN FACT, 70% OF END USERS ARE IN THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
UM, OR IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE OF A PROLIFIC BA BRAND, UH, THAT YOU PROBABLY READ ABOUT IN THE NEWS.
UM, MORE OF THE HYPERSCALE USE THAT, THAT TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE FACILITY AND OPERATE IT THEMSELF.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UM, IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE, I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, WHERE THE GUARD SHACK IS AGAIN, AND I'M SORRY TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
BUT WITH WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING WITH A FUTURE SUBSTATION, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR EGRESS INGRESS IN AND OUT, AND I SEE THERE'S ONLY ONE THERE AND THEN THERE'S ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE GONNA CONSIDER MOVING AT SOME POINT TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOW GOING? 'CAUSE YOUR GUARD SHACK IS THERE, IF YOU'RE GONNA SELL OFF THAT PROPERTY, THEN HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY? YEAH, SO IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE THIS AREA.
UM, THAT WOULD EITHER BE, UH, THAT'S THE SUBSTATION AREA THAT WOULD EITHER BE, UH, LEASED OR, UH, COMPLETELY CONVEYED TO ENCORE DIRECTLY.
WE'RE MAINTAINING THIS ACCESS POINT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE, NEED TO BE SEPARATE MAINTENANCE INVOLVED WITH, UH, THE SUBSTATION ITSELF.
UH, AGAIN, THIS, THIS ENTIRE FACILITY WILL BE HIGHLY SECURITIZED.
AND SO THE GUARD SHACK LOCATION IS, IS, UH, IS CRITICAL RIGHT HERE TO ALLOW ACCESS INTO THE SITE.
THIS NORTHWEST IS, UH, TO DELIVER, IT'S NOT ONLY FOR EMPLOYEE, UH, ENTRANCE, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR TRUCK DELIVERIES TO DELIVER EQUIPMENT TO THE SITE.
YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC BACK, UH, OF TRUCK TRAFFIC.
IT'S JUST CRITICAL TO BRING THE EQUIPMENT TO THE FACILITY, TO THE CONSTRUCTION.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, ONE LAST QUESTION.
UM, THE GENERATORS ARE, THAT'S JUST TEMPORARY POWER, THAT'S JUST BACKUP GENERATORS, EMERGENCY POWER? CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE RUNNING ON A REGULAR, THEY'LL BE TESTED PROBABLY ONCE A MONTH OR QUARTERLY OR ANNUALLY OR SOMETHING.
SO OUR NOISE STUDY WAS CONDUCTED UNDER TWO SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS JUST A STANDARD OPERATION AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATION.
UM, AND THEN IT WAS ALSO CONDUCTED AT, UH, THE NIGHTTIME MINIMAL DECIBEL.
UH, READING OF, OF 58 DECIBELS.
SORRY IF I'M GETTING A LITTLE TOO GRANULAR.
AND, UH, AND ALL OF WHICH WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A POINT FOR EVERYONE LISTENING THAT IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING ALL THE TIME.
THESE, THESE NEED TO CONSTANTLY RUN AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT THEY ARE UN UH, RUN ON UNINTERRUPTED POWER.
AND SO THE GENERATIONS ARE A CRITICAL PART, BUT DO NOT RUN CONSTANTLY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THEY ONLY KICK IN WHEN THE GRID GOES DOWN.
THEY'RE NOT SPINNING AT, YOU KNOW, 50 HERTZ BEFORE AND THEN THEY CAN JUMP UP TO 60 HERTZ AS SOON AS THE GRID GOES DOWN.
THEY GO, THERE'S PROBABLY A 32ND LEAD TIME BETWEEN THEM WHEN THE GRID GOES DOWN AND THEY BECOME HOT.
THE, FOR THE GENERATORS TO OPERATE.
THERE IS A COOL, THERE ARE COOLING SYSTEMS INVOLVED THAT, UH, ALSO PART OF OUR NOISE STUDY THAT, UH, WOULD'VE MEANT MORE FREQUENT, YOU KNOW, WOULD'VE MEANT NOISE, UH, DURING THE NORMAL OPERATIONS OF THIS FACILITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT DETAIL.
WE HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS, MA'AM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER DUKO? YEAH, I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR STAFF.
'CAUSE THIS IS MY DISTRICT, SO IT COULD EITHER BE SAVANNAH OR RASHAD OR JULIE.
WHEN THIS FACILITY GETS IT'S PROPERTY TAX ASSESSED, IS IT TAXED INCLUDING THE VALUE OF THE COMPUTER SERVERS OR JUST THE EMPTY RACKS IN THE BUILDING?
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YEAH, PER PERSONAL PROPERTY IS INCLUDED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.UM, SO I KNOW WE CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAX INCREMENT, UH, NOT TAX INCREMENT, UM, ASSESSED VALUE INCENTIVES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
NOW IT'S A ONE TIME CONSIDERATION.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ANNUALLY OR ANNUAL THING, SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER FOR YOU.
UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER MY HEAD.
WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE HOW THE ACTUAL MACHINERY IS TAGGED, BECAUSE THE REAL VALUE IS IN THOSE COMPUTERS, NOT IN THOSE EMPTY RACKS IN THE BUILDING.
AND I, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALSO, UM, INCREASES THE LAND VAL, OR THE, THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE AS WELL.
BUT THE REAL VALUE IS THE, IS THE COMPUTERS MM-HMM
UM, AND I FORGOT TO ASK THE GUY, SORRY, I DIDN'T, WAS WONDERING, SAM, HOW MANY MEGAWATTS IS THE FACILITY? HE'S COMING BACK UP.
IT WOULD BE, UH, 72 MEGAWATTS.
UH, IT WOULD BE A 48 MEGAWATT DATA HALL THAT WOULD BE USED FOR STORAGE, AND THEN THE BALANCE, 24 MEGAWATTS WOULD BE USED TO POWER THE FACILITY ITSELF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? UH, COMMISSIONERS, I'LL VOICE THE CONCERN.
IT IS MY DISTRICT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOVE FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR MOTION.
I, I WAS JUST, I, I SHARED WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAD WAS I WAS SURPRISED THAT A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING HAD THE RIGHT TO PUT IN A SUBSTATION ANYWAY.
I DON'T FEEL GOOD THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH ARE GOING TO BE FACING A SUBSTATION IF HE CAN'T WORK WITH ENCORE.
AND I CAN TELL FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT WORKING WITH ENCORE IS NOT PLEASANT.
I HOPE HE CAN DO THE, IF HE DOES THE FACILITY WITHOUT THE SUBSTATION ON PROPERTY, IT'S A HOME RUN.
AND EVEN FOR THOSE RESIDENCES.
BUT HE'S, THEY'VE GOT IT BY RIGHT.
SO I WILL, MADAM CHAIR, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'LL, WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO SUBSTATION.
THAT'S JUST A FOR FUTURE RIGHT NOW.
AND HE'S TRYING TO NOT GET ONE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT HE'S PUTTING US ON NOTICE THAT THERE VERY EASILY COULD BE ONE.
AND ONE POINT, AND I'M WITH YOU, UM, BUT ONE THING I'M THINKING THOUGH TOO IS IF WE DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROXIMITY AND WHY THEY HAVE IT ON THAT END OF THE PROPERTY, BUT IF WE DON'T, IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T BUILD THAT, THEN THEY'LL BE RELYING ON THE CURRENT GRID, WHATEVER, WHICH THEN DRAWS FROM WHAT I WOULD IMAGINE SERVES FROM GREEN PRAIRIE.
NO, I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SWITCHYARD THAT HE WANTS TO PUT THERE WOULD JUST BE OVER IN THE SHADOW OF THAT 3 45 KV THAT HE'S GOTTA HAVE ONE OF THOSE.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHERE IT GOES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH, IS IF HE DOESN'T, IF HE'S ABLE TO TAG ON TO THE OTHER, THAT'S GREAT.
IF HE'S NOT AND HE HAS TO BUILD HERE, THEN UM, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT, I MEAN, HE HAD THAT RIGHT TO PUT ONE IN UNDER OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS MARGINALLY DOING IT.
SO, SO THAT, THAT, I GUESS THE ORIGINAL SIN WAS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH THE RIGHT FIRST SUBSTATION THERE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE THE, IF YOU'RE THOSE PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH, IT'S, IT IS GONNA BE A 60 FOOT TALL YEAH.
SOMETIMES I WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T WANT THAT.
AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT, UM, WELL, WELL, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION.
WAS IT ONE OPPOSITION LETTER? WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION LETTERS ON THIS ONE? NO OPPOSITION.
UM, WOULD THAT, DID LETTERS GO OUT? LETTERS? HOW MANY LETTERS WENT OUT? THAT, THAT, MY CONCERN IS IF, IF PROPER NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SITE HAVE NOT, UH, SHARED THEIR CONCERNS, UH, UNLESS I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME.
THAT, THAT MAYBE THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT.
OR MAYBE THEY, THEY, THEY DID KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS ASK YOU, ARE YOU A GOOD NEIGHBOR? DID YOU GO IN AND, AND SPEAK WITH THE RESIDENTS WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE BUILD, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
THE ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT OR THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ALSO THE TITLE OF THIS, IF YOU GOT THIS IN THE MAIL, THE TITLE OF IS, IS DATA CENTER.
IT DOESN'T MENTION, UM, POTENTIAL, UH, FUTURE SUBSTATION THAT COULD HAVE RAISED AN EYEBROW MORE THAN A DATA CENTER.
ALSO, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE PROPORTION OF RENTALS ARE THERE AND MAYBE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AREN'T LIVING THERE.
WELL, MAYBE I CAN ASK SAVANNAH THIS QUESTION.
WHEN, WHEN A LETTER GOES OUT, IT REFERENCES THE PROPERTY.
BUT IF THEY SAY, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT REFERENCES THAT IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION OR LIKE MORE INFORMATION, YOU, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT.
IT PROVIDES CONTACT INFORMATION TO ALL OF THE STAFF.
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I WOULD THINK THAT IF THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE WITH REGARD TO THE BILL, THAT WHATEVER'S NOT PHYSICALLY ON THAT LETTER, THAT THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT.AND SINCE NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT, IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, I DON'T KNOW THIS, THIS IS A WHAMMY, BUT I, I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO WITH THIS.
NO, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO BECAUSE WHEN IT WENT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE GUY HAD A RIGHT TO PUT A SUBSTATION THERE.
LIKE I SAID, THAT I THINK WAS THE, THE ORIGINAL ISSUE.
UM, I BELIEVE HIM THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET ENCORE TO NOT PUT THEIR SWITCH YARD IN THAT RECTANGLE OF, OF REAL ESTATE.
BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T KNOW IF REC, IF ENCORE'S GONNA DO THAT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M SORRY.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY, ANN, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
SO MADAM CHAIR, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ITEM SEVEN RELUCTANTLY AND VOTE TO APPROVE, UH, WITH, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FKO TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TY CHAPMAN.
UM, AS PER UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, ALL OF THOSE ARE NOT IN FAVOR.
UM, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS AT 7:11 PM UH, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.