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[RECONVENE MEETING]

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I CALL THE FIRST MEETING OF 2025 TO ORDER.

GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME.

PASTOR MONTY BRINKLEY, COME FORWARD PLEASE, FROM THE CROSSING CHURCH, MONTY, AS YOU COME FORWARD, BEFORE YOU SAY YOUR PRAYER OUT, LIKE ALL OF US, TO PAUSE AND REFLECT ON THE GREAT LIFE LIVED BY FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER AND THE GREAT STATESMAN HE WAS AND HOW HE CONTINUED TO SERVE EVEN AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY AND ALSO THE TRAGIC EVENTS IN NEW ORLEANS.

COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS AND HER FAMILY WERE DOWN THERE JUST DAYS BEFORE MANY OF US HAD BEEN ON BOURBON STREET, TRAGIC EVENTS, AND THEN THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN LAS VEGAS.

SO JUST GIVE US A MOMENT TO PAUSE MIND.

DEAR, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TOGETHER.

GOD, WE ASK YOU TO BRING PEACE AND COMFORT TO THE FAMILIES IN NEW ORLEANS.

LORD, LORD, UH, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS, OR THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE THE ONES THAT WERE HURT BY IT.

GOD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOUR HAND WILL JUST BE UPON THEM.

BUT WE PRAY ALSO FOR THE, THE, THE LIVES AFFECTED IN, IN, UH, LAS VEGAS.

GOD AND LORD, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH GOING ON IN OUR, OUR COUNTRY, GOD AND LORD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOUR HAND WOULD BE UPON THIS COUNTRY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD HELP THIS COUNTRY TO TURN BACK TO YOU, GOD, AND, AND SERVE YOU.

AND, AND LORD IS JUST THANK YOU, UH, TONIGHT, GOD, THAT, THAT DURING THIS MEETING, GOD, THAT LORD, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, JUST GUIDE THE, THE, THE PROCESSES THAT, THAT GO FORTH.

AND LORD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST BE IN THE MIDST OF OUR, OF ALL OF THIS MEETING.

GOD.

LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST BRING BLESSINGS AND, AND, UH, PROTECTION OVER OUR KIDS AT SCHOOL.

GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST, UH, PUT YOUR HAND ON OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, LORD, AND BLESS THEM AS THEY, UH, WORK FOR, UH, FOR US, GOD.

AND, AND, AND LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST PROTECT THEM AS WELL.

LORD, JUST PUT YOUR HAND UPON THIS TOWN.

LEMME JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS MEETING.

GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST, UH, LEAD EVERY CONVERSATION AND WE JUST PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S NAME.

AMEN.

WILL EVERYONE PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL PLEDGE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LITERACY JUSTICE FOR ALL ON CITY, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.

I'D LIKE TO

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CALL ON OUR MAYOR PRO TIMM, GEORGIA, CLEMSON TO GO OVER OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, WE MET EARLIER TO REVIEW THE AGENDA, THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF, AND, UM, AT THAT TIME WE WERE APPRISED THAT THERE WAS A TYPO ON ITEM NUMBER THREE AND, UH, THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED TO CHANGE THE DATE TO JULY, 2027.

SO, MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER TWO THROUGH 21 WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE CORRECTED.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEDEN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND YOUR OPPOSED SAY, OH, SORRY.

I JUST GOT OFF THE, I ALMOST SLIPPED IT THROUGH THERE, HAROLD.

ALMOST, ALMOST.

I THEN I SAW YOU STANDING UP, WAVING YOUR HAND ALMOST.

GO AHEAD AND CALL HIM ON ALL OF IT.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL, WE'LL RECANT THE VOTE.

WE'LL DO THE SECOND.

OKAY.

NUMBER TWO, ITEM NUMBER AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

HAROLD WILLIS.

UH, UH YES, PLEASE.

HAROLD WILLIS.

5 3 8 LINLEY.

WHAT WAS THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON DECEMBER 11TH? WHAT WERE, WHAT ARE THE MEETINGS? THE MINUTES INVOLVING THAT MEETING, PLEASE.

UH, WE DISCUSSED TWO THINGS.

WE DISCUSSED CHARTER AMENDMENT.

YOU COULDN'T MAKE A MO WE COULD NOT MAKE A MOTION ON CHARTER AMENDMENT.

CHARTER AMENDMENTS HAVE TO BE, UH, VOTING ON CHARTER AMENDMENTS HAVE

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TO BE MADE IN A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, WHAT DO WE TERM IT? OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT POLICY.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT POLICY.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, MEANING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT POLICY.

IT WAS SETTING THE RULES FOR HOW MANY TOWN HALLS, HOW MANY OTHER EVENTS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN HAVE A YEAR, AND HOW MUCH CAN THEY SPEND.

WILL THESE TWO ITEMS BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE AT A REGULAR MEETING? THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING WILL NOT, IT WAS VOTED ON AND ADOPTED THAT NIGHT.

THE CHARTER AMENDMENT WILL BE BROUGHT UP AT THE VERY, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

RIGHT? I'M SORRY, FEBRUARY 4TH.

HAROLD, WE WILL BE, IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR TAKE NO ACTION ON FEBRUARY 4TH ON THE COMMUNITY, UM, COMMUNITY EN UM, ENGAGEMENT ITEMS. IS THAT WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT ON THE FOURTH? NO, THE FOURTH WILL BE CHARTERED CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

WHAT, WHAT WAS THE POLICY ON THE, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS, I THINK THE BEST THING FOR ME TO DO IS HAVE A MAIL, GET YOU A COPY OF IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS.

YEAH, WE'LL GET YOU A COPY OF IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NU I, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHO IS THE GRAND PRIX LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BOARD.

AND WHO WERE THE DIRECTORS THAT WERE REMOVED OR APPOINTED? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD, PLEASE? HELLO, ? YES, SIR.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

UH, SO WE'RE ADDING MA, UH, MARK DEAN, AND WE'RE REPLACING HIM.

WE'RE REPLACING TONY SHOTWELL.

AND WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD? IT IS, UH, WE RUN A LOT OF THE, UH, LAND PURCHASES THROUGH THE LGC, UH, MEGAN.

OH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE CALL THIS THE DOWNTOWN LGC.

SO, 'CAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON, UM, THE PUR PURCHASE OF CALVARY, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED DOWNTOWN IN ORDER TO HELP REVITALIZE.

UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN, BUT LIKE, UH, MR. BARRERA SAID IT'S MAINLY JUST KIND OF A, A WAY TO PURCHASE PROPERTY THROUGH, UM, UM, A STRAW BAND TYPE OF THING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

19.

THE IRON WATER METER HARDWARE WITH REPUBLIC METER, ARE THESE THE ACTUAL WATER METERS OR ARE THESE THE MANHOLES, THE, THE WATER METER BOXES THAT YOU SEE OUT THIS ALL AROUND THE CITY AND IN YOUR FRONT YARD? NOREEN, GOOD EVENING.

YES.

REEN HOUSE.

RIGHT.

DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITY SERVICES? UH, YEAH, THESE ARE THE METERS THAT, UM, OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, TECHS USE TO INSTALL FOR, UH, METER READ IN.

OKAY.

UM, SO THE CONTRACT IS, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO BUY THAT HARDWARE AND IT'S A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.

SO WE HAVE THE CONTRACT SO WE CAN, WE CAN PURCHASE THEM WHEN NEEDED.

WE, WE HAVE TO REPLACE 'EM PERIODICALLY.

OH, SURE.

AND THEY'RE SOLE SOURCE WITH THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE.

NOW, ARE WE GONNA PURCHASE THESE FROM THE GRAND PRAIRIE COMPANY THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR YEARS? BASS AND HAYES.

ARE THESE METAL BOXES, WHERE WILL THEY BE PURCHASED FROM? NO, THESE, THESE ARE FROM REPUBLIC.

NOW REPUBLIC IS, UM, THE SOLE SOURCE FOR OUR ITRON.

ITRON IS THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES OUR SOFTWARE THAT READS THE METERS AND THEY DO THE MAINTENANCE ON IT.

AND WE USED TO, THEY USED TO PROVIDE THE METERS AS WELL, BUT THEN THEY KIND OF SHIPPED IT OUT TO ANOTHER COMPANY TO PROVIDE THE, WHICH IS REPUBLIC.

UM, BUT IT IS A SOLE SOURCE.

SO WE HAVE TO GET IT FROM REPUBLIC TO, TO MATCH UP WITH THE SOFTWARE FROM ITRON.

DOES REPUBLIC METER, THESE CAST IRON BOXES ARE THEY MADE IN TEXAS? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAST IRON BOX.

NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAST IRON.

THIS IS THE METER THAT YOU HAVE.

THIS IS THE METER ITSELF.

JUST THE EXACT METER.

THIS IS WHAT READS WHEN WE SWITCHED FROM THE OLD CLOCK DRIVEN, GEAR DRIVEN.

THIS IS ALL THE NEW THAT SENDS THE MESSAGES TO YEAH.

OUR A MI READERS THAT KIND OF READ.

WELL, HOW MUCH WATER USE? WE DON'T HAVE WATER METER READERS ANYMORE THAT GO OPEN UP THE LID.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAST IRON.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE GRAND PRIX COMPANY.

WHERE IS REPUBLIC METER LOCATED? ARE THEY WHAT? I'M NOT SURE.

I CAN KIND OH, THAT'S FINE.

THEY'RE NOT IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

ARE THEY BASED IN TEXAS? ARE THEY JUST I DO NOT KNOW.

I'LL, I WILL.

OKAY.

I CAN FIND THAT OUT IN EMAIL.

YES, PLEASE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER 20.

OKAY.

UH, THE CITY HALL CAMPUS PERFORMANCE STAGE IN $504,000.

WHERE IS THIS PERFORMANCE STAGE GOING TO BE BUILT? SO HAROLD, UH, THIS

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IS PART OF THE WHOLE PLAN THAT Y'ALL PRESENTED TO US.

STAFF PRESENTED US A VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THIS PAST 30 DAYS WHERE THEY ROLLED OUT THEIR VISION FOR US, FOR THE DOWNTOWN STAFF PICKED, THEY GAVE US ABOUT FOUR CHOICES.

WE HANDPICKED THE CHOICES UNANIMOUSLY.

ONE OF THE CHOICES WAS A NEW STAGE THAT'S GONNA GO IN FRONT OF TOWN, THE CITY HALL, RIGHT ABOUT HERE.

WON'T IT RATE YES SIR.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALL.

AND FROM NOW ON, WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT, INSTEAD OF HAVING A RENTED STAGE UP THE BACK UP TO MAIN STREET, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL NEVER HAVE ONE THERE, DEPENDS ON THE LAYOUT OF WHAT CIN DE MILE WANTS AT THE LAYOUT THINGS.

BUT OUR DESIRE IS FROM NOW ON THE STAGE WILL BE THE STAGE AND IT'S GONNA KIND OF BE LIKE 11 PAVILION STAGE THAT IT WILL STAY THERE YEAR ROUND.

LOOK GREAT.

AND THERE'LL BE A GRAND LONG IN FRONT OF IT.

THE LIBERTY BELL'S BEING MOVED, THE FOUNTAIN'S BEING MOVED.

AND SO THIS IS TO GIVE THEM THE SEED MONEY TO START WORKING ON JUST THAT PHASE OF IT.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT RAY, IF Y'ALL UNDERSTOOD Y'ALL'S PROPOSAL TO US, GOOD EVENING.

RAY SARDA, PARKS, ARTS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

UM, YES.

UH, THAT'S THE, THE MAYOR WAS RIGHT.

WHAT HE, HE JUST MENTIONED ON THE STAGE.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IT RIGHT HERE UP, UP AS WHERE HE MENTIONED.

OKAY.

AND, UH, IT'LL BE A PERMANENT STAGE.

IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.

AND, UH, THIS IS JUST FOR ARCHITECTURE DESIGNS.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

OKAY.

ANY, UH, DATE WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN? NO, NOT YET.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS ALL JUST, UH, WE HAVE NO DEFINITIVE DATE OF WHEN CONSTRUCTION.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE DATE OF WHEN WE'RE GONNA STRIKE CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

SO IS THIS ALL CONTINGENT UPON THIS BUILDING BEING TORE DOWN NEXT DOOR BEFORE ANY OF THIS CONSTRUCTION GETS START? THIS PART DOES NOT REQUIRE THE TEARING DOWN OF ANY BUILDINGS.

YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WHERE THIS, WHERE THIS IS GONNA GO DOES NOT HEAVY.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE TEARING DOWN OF CALVARY BAPTIST.

IN FACT, THIS DOESN'T, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF ANYTHING.

THIS IS JUST FOR THEM TO DO THE ENGINEERING PLANS FOR WHAT WE APPROVE THE VISION WE APPROVE THE OTHER TIME JUST FOR THE STAGE.

OKAY.

WE JUST KIND OF HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT THIS, THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT MIGHT BE AFTER TAKING DOWN THE, THE BELL AND THE WATER FOUNTAIN.

THE TOTAL COST OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER YOUR DIRECT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO ANSWER IT, HAROLD.

THIS WHOLE COST, THIS IS A VERY SMALL PART OF IT.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST PART OF THE WHOLE COST.

'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA TEAR DOWN CALVARY BAPTIST.

WE'RE GONNA BUILD SOME APARTMENTS THERE ON THAT SITE.

SO THE WHOLE COST MAY BE LOOKING AT 50 MILLION.

OKAY.

THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PART THAT WE WERE WILLING TO GIVE THEM A GO AHEAD TO START DESIGN OF.

OKAY.

ANY ARTIST CONCEPT OF WHAT THIS IS POSSIBLY GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT COULD BE PUT ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU.

IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

WE ALL FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.

OKAY.

THAT WAY JUST TO HELP RAY, YOU CAN GET IT TO HIM.

YES SIR.

TAG YOU'RE IN.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GET THAT.

PRAISE HAS BEEN IT FOR QUITE A WHILE WITH ME.

, HAVEN'T WE ALL? OH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE 21.

UH, THE ELLIS APPRAISAL DISTRICT FACILITIES RENOVATION IS THIS ELLIS COUNTY.

WHAT IS THIS STAFF, MR. WILLIS? I CAN GIVE YOU THE LETTER THAT WAS, UM, PROVIDED IN THE PACKET RELATED TO THE REQUEST FROM THE ELLIS APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR SOME RENOVATIONS.

WHY DO THEY NEED ANYTHING FROM US MEGAN? UM, THE PROPERTY TAX CODE REQUIRES THAT THREE-FOURTHS OF THE TAXING UNIT ENTITLED TO VOTE MUST APPROVE THIS ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE RECEIVING THE LETTER.

SO ELLIS COUNTY'S ASKING US TO APPROVE IT SO THEY CAN DO SOMETHING IN THEIR COUNTY WITH THEIR COUNTY FUNDS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO NOT ONE PENNY OF GRAND PRAIRIE TAX DOLLARS WILL BE USED TO SUPPORT THESE ELLIS COUNTY TRUMP REPUBLICANS.

THIS IS ELLIS COUNTY.

ELLIS COUNTY.

ELLIS COUNTY WILL, ELLI COUNTY, ELLIS COUNTY.

I KNOW ELLIS.

ELLIS COUNTY IS TRUMP COUNTRY AND TRUMP TRAIN.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING IT.

NO.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND SOME TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WAS PAID TO THE COUNTY OF ELLIS COUNTY MAY BE USED

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FOR THIS.

WE HAVE A FEW RESIDENTS, SO I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK THE RESIDENTS IN ELLIS COUNTY THAT PAY COUNTY TAXES.

SOME OF THEIR TAXES MAY GO TO FUND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT THE CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE WILL BE GIVING TO ELLIS COUNTY? WE HAVE NO IDEA.

'CAUSE I, NO.

OKAY.

NOT CITY TAX DOLLARS.

ELLIS COUNTY, THIS COUNTY TAX DOLLARS.

BUT IS THAT NOT THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE IN ELLIS COUNTY? IT WILL BE SOME CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN ELLIS COUNTY THAT PAY COUNTY TAXES TO ELLIS COUNTY THAT SOME OF THEIR TAX MONEY MAY GO TO BUILD THIS.

YES, SIR.

BUT I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORDS, WHAT DO WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE VOTE IN ELLIS COUNTY? SOMETIMES 15.

15.

VERY FEW.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

SOME OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS MAY GO TOWARDS THIS.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN ELLIS COUNTY AS WE SPEAK TODAY, THAT ELLIS COUNTY IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BUILDING IN THEIR COUNTY.

YES SIR.

YES THEY ARE.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO RE GO OVER.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AIN'T OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 22.

[22. STP-24-07-0032 - Site Plan - Goodland Villages - Phase 1 (City Council District 6). Site Plan for a residential development with 54 Single Family Detached units and 122 Single Family Attached units on 34.86 Acres. Portions from two parcels (Parcel IDs 190600 & 284558) out of JOS Stewart Survey, Abstract No. 961, City of Grand Prairie, Ellis County, zoned PD-455, generally located south of Prairie Ridge Blvd and west of Old Fort Worth Rd (On December 9, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions by a vote of 9-0)]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL, DON'T START.

ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PROCEED UNLESS I KNEW YOU WERE HERE.

PROCEED.

OKAY.

ITEM 22 IS A SITE PLAN FOR GOODLAND VILLAGES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

AND THIS IS FOR ONE OF THEIR FIRST PHASES OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT'S ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 55 AND IT'S ABOUT 35 ACRES ON THE SCREEN.

YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE LARGER PD 4 55 OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND SOME OF THEIR CONCEPT PLANS, UM, THAT WERE PRESENTED WITH THE ZONING AND, AND THEIR PHASING PLAN, WHICH WAS PRESENTED WITH THE SITE PLAN.

THE AREA OUTLINED IN WHITE DASHED LINE IS THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 35 ACRES.

AND THIS IS THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THAT AREA.

AND AGAIN, THIS AREA OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW OR THE RED IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THIS, UH, REQUEST TONIGHT.

UH, THEN TO GET YOU A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ORIENTED, UH, PRAIRIE RIDGE VOL BOULEVARD, AS TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT OVER HERE IS THE EARLY PHASES OF PRAIRIE RIDGE THAT'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

UH, SO THIS SITE PLAN IS FOR A TOTAL OF 176 DWELLING UNITS.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

UH, SO THE ATTACHED UNITS ARE IN A DUPLEX OR PAIRED HOME CONFIGURATION.

UH, THEY ARE MEETING THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND THE PD 4 55 AND THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT PART OF THIS PROPOSAL IS GREEN SPACE WITH A TRAIL, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THEIR ELEVATIONS AND THEY'VE PROVIDED, UH, DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, ARCHITECTURAL PALETTE OF, UH, MATERIALS AND COLORS THAT WILL BE, UH, USED IN THIS PHASE.

WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

AND ON DECEMBER 9TH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO CONDITION.

NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE COMMUNITY, MAIN STREET AND SECONDARY STREET SHALL BE PROVIDED PER THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AND BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOD MOBILITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

FOR THE REMAINING PHASES, UH, TREE MITIGATION PLANS MUST BE PROVIDED, UH, FOR THE REMAINING PHASES AND THEN THAT PROPOSED WALKING PATH, UH, AND COMMON AMENITIES MUST BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS PHASE.

AND THEN, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THEY'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED THEIR PLANS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT, SO THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT A CARD, BUT ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FIRST.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? THANK YOU.

SAVANNAH, DO YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.

GO AHEAD AND COME ON DOWN.

GOOD EVENING.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THOMAS HILL, 3 0 2 4 ADOLF STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 4.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

WAS IT AT CCDC WITH YOU GUYS? MM-HMM .

AND I BELIEVE THEY ASKED YOU GUYS TO GET WITH ME IN REGARDS TO THE SIZE AND THE, UH, ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPERTIES.

UM, I DO NOT RECALL.

IS THAT THE SAME ONE? IT'S NOT THE SAME ONE, YEAH.

THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.

IT HAS, IT'S STILL GOING THROUGH THE DA DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS AND REVIEW.

IT'S NORTH OF LAKE RIDGE.

IT'S NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

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NOW KURT, WHAT I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT SAVANNAH, WHAT THEY WANT.

THAT WAS GOOD ENGLISH.

WEREN'T THEY WANTING TO CHANGE THE MIX? THE SIZES? I, I BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, A DIFFERENT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WHERE THEY WERE DECREASING THE MINIMUM.

IS THAT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WAS THIS ON THAT AGENDA THAT WE TABLED THE OTHER ONE OR DID WE TABLE BOTH? WHERE THEY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT, THE SITE PLAN IS BEFORE YOU, SO THIS WAS NOT THE TABLE.

OKAY.

SO THE OTHER ONE YES SIR.

IF WE WHAT? SO THE OTHER ONE WAS THEY WERE CHANGING THE MIX.

THEY'RE DECREASING THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA, RIGHT? YES.

IF WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THAT? TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. SO WHAT ARE THEY WANTING TO DO WITH THIS? THIS IS JUST THEIR PHASE ONE SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

A SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED 'CAUSE IT'S IN A PD.

OKAY.

AND WE STILL, WHAT ITEM'S? THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE TABLED, IT'S THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

29? NO, THAT'S, I THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR 29.

THAT'S OFF POLO ROAD, RIGHT? SO THE, THESE TWO ARE CONNECTED? NO.

OKAY.

TWO NINE IS OFF PAUL ROAD GETTING BACK.

AND THAT'S THE ONE YOU TABLED.

'CAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT.

RIGHT? SO I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS ONE CCDC ITEM THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING.

WAS THAT A CASE? THE PROPERTY IS NORTH AND SEE IF Y'ALL CAN SEE MY MOUSE IS HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS SOUTH, SOUTH OF PRAIRIE RIDGE BOULEVARD.

THIS IS LAKEVIEW DRIVE.

SO AGAIN, THIS, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHY WE TABLED THE OTHER ONE? THERE WASN'T ANYBODY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, SO I'LL APOLOGIZE.

YOU WEREN'T NOT HERE LAST TIME, BUT WE WEREN'T HAVING TO BE HERE LAST TIME.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THOUGH.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

UM, YOU'RE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE FOR RENT, UH, THIS SPECIFIC AREA? YES, BUT WE HAVE 2,400 LOTS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN ELLIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

FOR SALE OF ALL DIFFERENT SIZES.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THEIR, YOUR EXPERIENCE AND WHAT OTHER PROPERTIES DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU RENT HOMES TO? UH, WELL WE HAVE OUR PLATFORM CALLED PARKHOUSE, WHICH ARE A BUILT FOR RENT PLATFORM.

WE HAVE ONE IN THAT WE SOLD IN MCKINNEY, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN SALINA THAT WE STILL HAVE.

WHAT YEAR WAS, WAS THAT SALINA, TEXAS.

IT'S A MCKINNEY INSIDE PTR.

WHAT YEAR DID YOU OWN THOSE PROPERTIES? THAT WAS IN 21 AND WE, UM, DISPOSED OF IN 22.

YOU DISPOSED OF IN 22? YEAH.

AND THEN WE HAVE SALINA, WE STARTED IN 22 AND WE'RE STILL HOLDING, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONE IN GARLAND THAT'S 243 UNITS THAT WE'RE FINISHING UP RIGHT NOW.

AND HOW LONG DO YOU TYPICALLY HOLD YOUR PROPERTIES? UH, WE HOLD THEM FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS.

THESE ARE IT, TO ME, THAT'S THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE RENTAL HOMES.

IT IS NO DIFFERENCE TO ME IT'S RENT A DEPART AN APARTMENT.

WHEN YOU CHANGE OVER OWNERSHIP, TYPICALLY THE PROPERTIES GO DOWN BECAUSE YOU COME IN AND GOTTEN YOUR PROFITS, YOU'VE SOLD IT TO SOMEONE, AND NOW THEY HAVE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN IT TO THEIR LEVEL.

BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME STAKE IN THE GAME AS YOU DID TRYING TO GET FOLKS HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER PROPERTIES IN HOMES YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD.

I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE LONGEVITY OF YOU HOLDING YOUR PROPERTIES.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE FLIPPING THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE AND LEAVING THE CITY TO POTENTIALLY, UM, PICK UP THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH RENTAL, A RENTAL PROPERTY DOWN THERE.

SO YOU'VE, AND WHAT'S THE, UH, THE COST OF THE HOMES THAT YOU'RE GONNA, RIGHT.

WHAT'S THE RENTAL RATES GONNA BE FOR THESE HOMES? WELL, SO WE'RE IN, THIS IS IN THE LARGER PICTURE OF GOODLAND THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO BUILD QUALITY PRODUCTS HERE.

AND OUR AVERAGE HOME SALE TODAY IS 4 75.

WHAT'S THE RENT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE REQUEST TO BE BUILT TODAY? IT'D BE 2220 $400.

AND THESE ARE OUR, THIS FIRST PHASE IS OUR LARGER KIND OF INDIVIDUAL HOMES SLASH PAIRED HOMES.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE PHASING INTO OUR LOWER SIZED PRODUCT, WHICH IS MORE OF YOUR A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BTR AVERAGE.

AND THEN IN FRONT OF THIS, THE ORANGE AND THE RED IS THE GARDEN STYLE MULTIFAMILY.

UM, SO WE'RE CREATING SOME LAYERS AND WE WENT THROUGH A LARGE DESIGN CHARETTE WITH THE CITY TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS.

UM, I MEAN, GOODLAND COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO MAKE A PREMIER.

I MEAN, IT'S 5,000 ACRES NOW.

SO IT'S, WE WANT TO CONTINUALLY BUILD ON OUR PRODUCT AND ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE THESE AMENITIES, UM, WITH THE

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WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.

SO FOR US TO LET SOMEONE COME IN AND TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY AND LET IT NOT MEET OUR GUIDELINES, UH, IT'S JUST SAME AS AN HOA, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP IT TO A CERTAIN, CERTAIN LEVEL OF, OF, UM, MAINTENANCE.

SO, SO IT WOULD BE TRUE IF I STATE THAT, STATE IT THIS WAY, WHAT STATE DO YOU HAVE IN THE OWNERSHIP AFTER YOU SELL IT? UH, WE HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THEM FOR MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.

WHAT STATE OF THE OWNERSHIP DO YOU HAVE AFTER YOU SELL? BECAUSE WHEN WOULDN'T HAVE ANY STATE, IF I SOLD MY HOME TODAY, I CAN CARE LESS WHAT THE HOMEOWNER WHO BOUGHT IT FROM ME DOES FOR THE PROPERTY.

I HAVE NO STAKE IN THAT OWNERSHIP.

RIGHT.

BUT AT AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN ISSUE CITATIONS AND HOA, UM, YOU KNOW, NOTICES AND, AND CHARGE 'EM BACK IF WE WISH.

AND, AND THAT'S IN THE POLICY BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THE POLICY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

SO IN, IT'S NOT IN THE PO O POLICY.

WITHIN, WITHIN GOODLAND WE HAVE OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, COMMUNITY GUIDELINES.

RIGHT.

SO YOU ASKED, SO IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE GOOD GOODLAND POLICY COMMUNITY GUIDELINES THAT RIGHT.

TO MAINTAIN THAT HOA CAN PENALIZE YES.

WITH FEES IN THOSE FEES ARE EXPRESSLY WRITTEN IN THE POLICY.

SO THE HOMEOWNERS WOULD KNOW WHAT IF I WEREN'T THERE AND PUT A STICKER ON YOUR DOOR FOR NOT CUTTING YOUR GRASS.

THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

ARE THEY EXPRESSLY WRITTEN THAT WAY? I, I YOU GET NOTICES FOR WHAT? BUT WHAT'S THE FEE AMOUNTS? DO, DO, ARE THEY WRITTEN FEE AMOUNTS? I DO NOT KNOW.

I DO NOT KNOW THE FEE AMOUNTS.

THE, UM, THE MASTER DEVELOPER IS NOT HERE.

BUT THE HOA WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK IT UP ON THE WEBSITE FAIRLY EASILY.

SO YES OR NO ARE THE FEE AMOUNTS EXPRESSLY WRITTEN IN THE POLICY TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S CONSIDERED A VIOLATION? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST IN THE HOA? THE VIOLATIONS ARE CLEARLY WRITTEN, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE FEE AMOUNTS ARE POSTED OVER HERE.

SO NEXT THAT DOT, DOT, DOT, WHAT'S ARE THE, THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WRITTEN THERE? SO I WOULD KNOW AS A HOMEOWNER OR A RENTER, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST ME.

YES, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE INDICATED IN THE LEASE.

SO YOU SAID IT WOULD BE I'M LOOKING FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE AS IT IS IN THERE.

YES.

IN THE CURRENT TRADE DOCUMENTS, THERE ARE LANGUAGE THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT THE FEES ARE.

SHOULD YOU BE PENALIZED.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE SEVERAL LAYERS TO THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, ORIGINALLY AN ETJ.

SO THEY HAVE WHAT THEY HAD THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STANDARDS, THE HOA STANDARDS.

THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ON OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY.

WE ALSO, SO THEY'LL BE MAINTAINING IT AND TO THEIR STANDARDS.

BUT THIS IS ALSO BEING BROUGHT INTO THE CITY, OR IT HAS BEEN.

SO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CAN ALSO DRIVE THESE STREETS FOR HIGH GRASS VIOLATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WHY IS THIS CONSIDERED A SITE PLAN? THE ZONING'S BEEN IN PLACE.

SO, UM, BEFORE THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S WHY IT'S A SITE PLAN.

YES.

SO THIS SITE PLAN MEETS THE REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING? YES.

UH, I I KNOW WE CAN, BUT I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.

IS IT, CAN I GET THE COUNCIL SUPPORT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S WRITTEN IN THE POLICY THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE WRITTEN DOWN THERE? AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IT'S A POSSIBILITY OR IT, WE CAN CHECK IT OUT.

I MEAN, THERE ARE STANDARDS GOODLAND STANDARD.

I JUST DO NOT KNOW THE FEES THAT I, I'M NOT ASKING FOR SPECIFIC AMOUNT.

DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT SO YOU CAN GET THE DOCUMENTATION? YES.

CAN I GET A QUESTION? YOU MAKE A MOTION.

OH, SURE.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? HI.

THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, INFORMATION.

SO I WAS JUST LOOKING AT, UM, ITEM NINE YOU PROVIDED HERE, WHICH ARE THE ELEVATIONS.

SO THE DESIGN LOOK OF WHAT WAS SHOWN, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, BUT EACH OF THESE, WHAT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE WILL HAVE TWO UNITS IN IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO THERE'S PARED HOMES AND THEN THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL HOMES.

THEY'LL BE BOTH.

WE WERE IN OUR ZONING.

WE WERE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO ALL OF THE PARED HOMES, BUT WE WANT TO DIVERSIFY PRODUCT MIX HERE AND BEGIN.

SO YOU COULD, YOU'RE ALL PAIRED.

YES, SIR.

BUT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, WE COULD GET ON THE RECORD THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL PAIRED.

IT'S, IT WOULD BE PER THIS DOCUMENTATION, WHATEVER WE APPROVE.

SO WHAT PERCENTAGE IS PAIRED VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED? WE CAN, IT'S 54 HOMES, A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

122 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.

OKAY.

SO, AND WHAT'S THE LIVING SPACE ON A SINGLE UNIT? UNIT ON THE, UH, PARED HOME? ON THE PARED HOME? UH, AVERAGE PROBABLY 1450 I BELIEVE ON THIS ONE.

OKAY.

SO I, I ASK THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES I'VE NOTICED WITH THESE SMALLER HOMES,

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LIKE THE 1600 SQUARE FEET AND UNDER, UM, YOU HA AND THEN, AND THEN YOU PAIR TWO HOUSES THAT ARE ATTACHED AT THAT SIZE.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CARS ON THE STREET AT THIS TYPE OF PRICE POINT.

A LOT OF MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILY LIVING.

AND WE CAN, I COULD SEE IT BEING, I'M, I'M JUST, YOU CAN'T YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST WANT TO STATE THAT AND, AND SOUNDS LIKE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WILL BE MEETING WITH THEM.

UM, JUST NOTING THAT SINCE THE MAJORITY OF THE PERCENTAGE WILL BE THE PAIRED HOMES, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A LOT.

UH, OF QUOTE, IT COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF 'EM COULD BE PAIRED FOR THE ZONING.

SO, BUT IT WON'T BE RIGHT.

OH, NOT ON THIS PROPOSED PLAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE A VARIETY OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND PAIRED HOMES.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE, I MEAN WE HAVE OTHER PHASES IN THIS PROJECT THAT ARE, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OTHER PHASES THAT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY.

WE'VE ALREADY 4 45, $450,000 HOMES.

THIS IS JUST ONE SEGMENT IN THAT WHOLE 5,000 ACREAGE.

YES, SIR.

AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, WHAT I THINK YOU AND THIS WHOLE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IS STAFF, IF WE TABLE IT, BRING IT BACK TO SHOW US HOW THIS FITS INTO THE WHOLE THING.

BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY ALREADY APPROVED.

BUT IT WASN'T APPROVED JUST THIS BY ITSELF.

IT WAS APPROVED IN THE WHOLE ACREAGE.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE SEGMENT OF THAT ACREAGE.

CORRECT.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE DID.

THE DESIGN SHRED ON THIS WHOLE ENTRY LIKE FRONT DOOR OF, OF RENTAL PRODUCT SEGMENTED THAT GOES BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS THE OVERALL LAND PLAN CONCEPT PLAN OF GOODLAND AS A WHOLE.

THIS IS JUST A SMALL FRACTION.

AND THERE WILL BE, AND WE WANNA HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

WE WANT TO HAVE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR PARED HOMES, SFD, MULTI GARDEN, MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOMES.

WE HAVE THIS LOT, WE HAVE MIXED USE.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT.

SO THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THOSE STAFF NEEDS TO REMIND US OF THAT WE DID APPROVE THAT WHOLE PLAN.

AND SOMETIMES WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE PART OF IT THAT SAID WE MAY HAVE NEVER APPROVED THIS IF IT WAS THE ONLY PART OF THE PLAN.

BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A WHOLE MIXED USE FACILITY AND MULTI, WE WANTED SOME, I REMEMBER US SAYING THAT WE WANTED SOME LOWER PRICE HOMES OUT THERE.

RIGHT.

SO THESE ARE FOR REAL.

LET'S DON'T, I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE IT KIRK.

'CAUSE YOU NEED TO GET SOME ANSWERS.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO AND, AND BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE TOO.

AND I THINK THEY'RE MEETING THE RULES OF THE OVERALL DREAM WE HAD OUT THERE.

'CAUSE I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WE DIDN'T WANT ALL $450,000 HOMES.

WE WANTED SOME AFFORDABLE HOMES OUT THERE.

MM-HMM .

THEY'RE GIVING THIS, IN MY OPINION, THEY'RE GIVING US THAT AND THEY'RE GIVING US LESS THAN THEY COULD.

BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT MIX.

'CAUSE I DON'T WANT 'EM ALL PAIRED.

RIGHT.

BUT I DO LIKE SOME OF THE PAIRED.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND LET THE OTHER SPEAKERS SPEAK.

BUT I THINK A TABLING IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

AND KURT, YOU SPEND SOME TIME WITH STAFF AND THEM AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, BUT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW COUNCIL MEMBER AHEAD AND FINISH.

YES.

UM, PLEASE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SAYING.

JUST GETTING A REFRESHER.

UM, THE ETTE WAS GREAT.

I'M CURIOUS IF ANYTHING HAS CHANGED.

UM, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN IS WHAT IS THE RATIO OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SIZE OF HOMES RENTAL VERSUS TO OWN, YOU KNOW, UNDER 1600 SQUARE FOOT VERSUS IN THE WHOLE, IN THE WHOLE SHRED.

YES.

IN THE WHOLE THING.

BECAUSE IF WE GET REFRESHED ON THAT, THEN AS THESE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS COME, IT'S REFRESHED SENSE, REFRESH WITHIN CONTEXT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING ALSO HAS CHANGED SINCE THE ETTE.

GOOD.

UH, DO I GO BACK, LEFT, RIGHT, STRAIGHT.

UH, UP AND DOWN IS, I'LL SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ALL THOSE DETAILS AS FAR AS THE LOT SIZES AND RATIOS.

'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY FOCUSED IN ON THE PORTIONS THAT ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS NOW, WHICH WE RECENTLY ANNEXED.

THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE OTHER PORTIONS.

BUT THIS OVERALL CONCEPT IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING BY.

THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THE DETAILS OF THE JOHNSON COUNTY SIDE.

THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

WELL, YOU CAN GO OVER THE DETAILS OF OUR SIDE OF WHAT WE'VE ANNEXED.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THOUGH.

THE ONLY COMPONENT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED YET IS THE PURPLE, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRIAL THAT WE ANNEXED.

OKAY.

SO CHARETTE WE HAD THOUGH THAT WAS THE LARGER, JUST IF YOU REFRESH ME, THAT WASN'T JUST THE PURPLE AND WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING.

IT WAS A LARGER SCOPE THAN THAT.

RIGHT.

WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED FROM YOU ALL, THAT WHOLE THING UP THERE.

YES.

YEAH.

THE WHOLE, IT WAS MAINLY FOCUSED ON THIS AREA, I BELIEVE IS CORRECT.

YES.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THIS AREA, THE ORANGE, THIS WHOLE AREA HERE.

THE ORANGE.

YEAH, THE CIRCLE, RIGHT.

WELL,

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I THINK SHE'S SPEAKING TOWARD IT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BIG ETTE.

Y'ALL HEADED THE EPIC.

YES.

WHERE YOU SHOWED US EVERYTHING.

SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK THE TOWN HALL.

THE ABOUT ALL THE DETAILS.

THOSE DETAILS WERE STARTED.

THEY'RE STILL FOLLOWING THIS BASELINE OF THE CONCEPT.

BUT I KNOW LEGAL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEIR TEAM ABOUT ALL THE DETAILS OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PART OF TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE BEING AMENDED AND CHANGED AS WE GO.

AND SO ALL THOSE PERCENTAGES.

WELL, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THIS IS KIND OF COMPLICATED.

IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAND WALKED US THROUGH SO SLOWLY.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR Y'ALL WORKING ON IT.

I MEAN, WE HAD THE SHRED THERE, THE BUT JUST SO THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE A, A, A OVERVIEW IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE NEED IT RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

AND, AND SO WHAT WE HAVEN'T CHANGED FROM THOUGH IS THIS ORANGE AREA.

WE WE'RE STICKING TO THAT IN WHAT WE AGREED TO IN THE DESIGN ETTE AND WHAT WAS APPROVED.

OKAY.

AND SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST LEG OF THAT TO GET AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A PLAN.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED ON THIS FIRST AREA.

AND SO WE'RE STARTING WITH THE FURTHEST LAYER BACK TO GET THAT ROAD IN TO START ACTIVATING THE AREAS TOWARDS, I UNDERSTAND PRAIRIE RIDGE COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, SAVANNAH OR RASHAD, COULD Y'ALL TAKE YOUR LASER POINTER AND MARK AND JUST DRAW A CIRCLE MAYBE AROUND WHAT PART OF ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN ANNEXED ALREADY? IT'S CIRCLED THE RED CIRCLE.

LEMME SEE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT MAP HERE.

IT'S JUST THE OVERALL CONCEPT.

HERE YOU GO.

SO ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE, SEE HIS ARROW? YES.

Y'ALL SEE THE MOUSE HERE.

I'LL, I'LL ALSO SHOW IT WITH THIS.

BUT THE MOUSE, EVERYTHING DOWN HERE COMING UP.

SO WE HAVE ANNEX THIS RIGHT HERE.

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF THE ROAD.

YES.

YEAH.

COUNCIL EAST, EAST OF THIS CREEK, SOAP CREEK, EVERYTHING EAST OF THAT.

SO IS THAT, AND THAT'S THE ROAD THAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD, RIGHT? WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE $45 MILLION ROAD.

THIS IS MILLER ROAD, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON DETAILS ON HOW THAT IS GONNA CONNECT WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THE INDUSTRIAL IS ON HOLD SOMEWHAT BECAUSE OF THAT.

THEY'RE WORKING OUT WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS.

UM, BUT THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS JUST DIED ON ME, THE MULTIFAMILY.

MULTIFAMILY IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, HAS NOT DRASTICALLY CHANGED WITH REGARD TO THE CONCEPT.

WE WORKED WITH, UH, OUR KUDOS TO BRETT SSON, OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER TO ASSURE THAT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN, THEY'RE ADHERING TO THAT.

SO, UM, WHICH IS THIS, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THAT WAS SHOWN AS PART OF THE ANNEXATION AND IT WAS ADOPTED AS A PD FOR THE ZONING.

UM, YOU SEE THE, THE ROADWAY STRUCTURE THAT WAS HERE, UM, TRANSPORTATION WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT FRAMEWORK WAS STILL THERE.

AND UH OH, THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE, UH, THAT THEY'RE WANTED TO DO.

AND THERE'LL BE SUBSEQUENT PHASES AS THEY GET CLOSER TO PRAIRIE BOULEVARD THAT THEY PLAN ON DOING.

AND ALL THOSE SUBSEQUENT PHASES, YOU'LL LET US KNOW WHETHER IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL YES.

MEETS THE PD STANDARDS THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

CAN YOU, UH, SORRY, BUT CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE? THE, THE, THE ONE, SO THE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ALREADY ANNEXED IS TO THE EAST OF THE ROAD.

OH, OKAY.

YES, YES, YES.

I THINK, AND OF INCLUDING THE ROAD.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE ROAD WAS.

THE ROAD THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, MR. SHOTWELL IS THIS BLACK LINE RIGHT HERE.

OH, THAT'S CALLED GOODLAND.

AND SO THERE THAT YELLOW PART'S NOT ANNEX.

SO NO.

SO WE, BUT WE DID, WE DID JUST TIFFANY, WE, LAST MEETING, WE APPROVED THE ANNEXATION OF THAT ROAD AND A STRIP OVER TO JOHNSON TO CREATE CONNECTIVITY FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UM, TOWN CENTER AREA.

IS THAT CORRECT, TIFFANY? JUST LAST MEETING.

OKAY.

SO THE AREA RIGHT HERE THAT HAS THE RS THAT'S IN YELLOW, THIS IS PART, PART OF THOSE COME EXISTING ELLIS COUNTY FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT.

WE'VE ENTERED INTO A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO ANNEX THAT IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE ANNEXED THE ORANGE AND WE'VE ANNEXED THE PURPLE.

THIS IS, UM, GONNA

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BE OUR INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THIS IS A MIXED, MIXED RESIDENTIAL THAT'S KIND OF A MULTIFAMILY AREA BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE OFF OF NEAR 2 87.

WE HAVE ANNEXED GOING, OOPS, SORRY.

ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED THE MOUSE.

WE'VE ANNEXED RIGHT.

GOING THROUGH WHERE THAT IS UP THE ROADWAY SO THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF GOODLAND PARKWAY CAN START NEXT TO IT.

NO, WE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE MUD OR WHATEVER.

WE CAN'T UNTIL THEY PAY OFF THE DEAL.

MAYBE 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

CORRECT.

AND SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE CHARETTE WAS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE MADE SOME AMENDMENTS AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE A FEW OTHER COMING YOUR WAY FOR THAT.

IT'S IN THE ELLIS COUNTY FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND YOUR REALLY NICER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA.

THOSE STANDARDS WERE ORIGINALLY PUT IN PLACE AROUND 2011.

SO THEY'VE UPGRADED SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS AND CONTINUE TO UPGRADE THOSE STANDARDS.

BUT WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE ZONING.

AND IT ALIGNS WITH ALL OF THE STANDARDS Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TIFFANY.

YOU DID, YOU DID VERY WELL.

BUT YOU ANSWERED A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T ASK.

OKAY.

SO MY CONCERN THEN PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THIS LITTLE AREA HERE UP IN THE ORANGE, IN THE CORNER, UH, IS THE FIRST PART THAT'S EASY TO GET TO AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING THAT FIRST.

CORRECT.

AND THEN WE'VE ONLY ANNEXED WHERE THE ROAD IS AND THE PURPLE ALONG WITH THAT.

SO MY CONCERN IS, Y'ALL, WHATEVER KIND OF TOURETTE OR WHATEVER IT IS, Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT HAVING YOU, YOU'RE SPEAKING CHINESE TO ME BECAUSE I WAS NOT AROUND AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

SO I'D LOVE TO GET A, A REFRESHER ON THAT.

AND UH, MY CONCERN JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS, OKAY, WE'RE PUTTING IN SOME RENTAL PROPERTIES AND, AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE ONE DAY SOME INDUSTRIAL AND ALL WE'VE ANNEXED IS THAT AND THE LITTLE PIECE OF ROAD AND THE REST OF IT, IT, WE'RE ROLLING THE DICE NOW Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY ROLLED THAT DICE IT SOUNDS LIKE.

I HOPE WE DON'T COME UP WITH CRAPS.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

UH, COUNCILMAN DEL BOSKY.

THANK YOU SIR.

CAUGHT WITH SOME ACCIDENT.

IT'S ALL SIMPLE QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PAIRED HOME AND A TOWN HOME? UH, PAIRED HOME IS ONLY TWO UNITS.

TOWN HOME IS USUALLY THREE OR MORE.

TYPICALLY FOUR.

IT'S, IT'S A DUPLEX.

A DUPLEX HOME IS DUPLEX.

SO THAT, THAT'S A NEW TERMINOLOGY.

YEAH.

GOTCHA.

SOUNDS FANCY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEAD.

I WASN'T HERE LIKE TONY WHEN WE GOT UPDATED ON THE VERBIAGE.

I, I KNOW WE COVERED THIS, UH, HIGH VIEW, BUT AS, UH, WAS THAT RASHAD OR SAVANNAH OR SOMEBODY JUST CAME UP AND STATED THAT UH, THIS, WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IS, OH, WAS, UH, TIFFANY, SORRY.

WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE WERE SHOWING BEFORE AND IT DAWNED ON ME.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE MUST NEVER HAVE BEEN SHOWN WHAT YOU ALL HAD ENVISIONED AS FAR AS THE RATIO, UH, BREAKDOWN.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REFRESHER, THAT WOULDN'T BE A PART OF IT.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE EVER GOT IT THEN.

UM, SO MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING MAYBE WE WERE, 'CAUSE HE SAID THAT WHAT WE APPROVED, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT PAIRED HOMES.

THE PD? YES.

THIS, THIS PORTION THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THERE WAS A PD TIED TO THE ANNEXATION PROCESS AND THE ZONING THAT WAS TIED TO THAT.

SO ALL THAT WAS NOTED IN THAT DOCUMENT.

IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THIS HAPPENED.

SO OVERALL THOUGH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, LIKE THEY SAID SINCE 2011.

FEELS LIKE IT.

YES.

.

I THINK THEY SAID THAT THE REASON I ASK, ASK THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS REALLY RELEVANT TO ME.

THE WHOLE GOODLAND TO KNOW IS THIS 70% APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT ON THE RECORD COUNCIL MAYOR HEAD.

UM, I KNOW THE WHOLE GOODLAND THAT WE APPROVED IN THE PD WASN'T 70% APARTMENTS.

IT WAS WHAT? AND THAT WAS TO SAY HYPOTHETICAL, BUT I JUST, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET YOU WHAT IT WAS.

THAT IS WHAT I WANNA KNOW.

WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN? AND THAT'S JUST FOR KIND OF FUTURE REFERENCE.

CORRECT.

TONIGHT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TABLE THIS IF THAT'S STILL COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON'S PLEASURE AND YES, I'M READY FOR A MOTION.

OKAY.

UH, BILL, DO YOU MIND JUST

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ASKING THE STAFF TO GET A TEAM MEETING WITH ME? COUNCIL MEMBER AHEAD AND ATTORNEY SHOTWELL AND THEM SO WE COULD SIT DOWN OVER TEAMS MEETING AND DISCUSS SOME OF THIS, PLEASE? SURE.

UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO TABLE I ITEM ITEM NUMBER 22.

SECOND.

DO WE NEED TO GIVE A DATE TABLE UNTIL Y'ALL ARE READY TO BRING IT BACK TO US? WHICH SHOULD BE THE NEXT MEETING.

CAN YOU GET IT ACCOMPLISHED BY THE NEXT MEETING? OKAY.

YES.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT, SAY AYE.

AYE.

A ANY OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

[23. ZON-24-10-0027 - Zoning Change – Dalworth Rezone (City Council District 1). Zoning Change from Office district (O) to General Retail (GR) on 0.64 acres. Tract 1D, Ford P H Survey Abstract 543, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Office (O) District, and addressed as 2406 Dalworth St (On December 9, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 9-0)]

ITEM 23.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 23 IS THE ZONING CHANGE AT 24 0 6 DALWORTH STREET.

UH, THE REASON THIS REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU IS THE APPLICANT WANTS TO OPEN A HAIR SALON.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED OFFICE, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW A HAIR SALON.

SO THEY'RE ASKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO GENERAL RETAIL, UH, TO ALLOW THAT LAND USE.

IT'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES WITH THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO ADD OR BE ABLE TO, UH, OPEN A HAIR SALON.

UH, ON DECEMBER 9TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS WELL.

PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE AMOUNT DESIGNATION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU SAVANNAH.

UM, UM, LET'S JUST SAY IF WE DID VOTE TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO GENERAL RETAIL AND THE HAIRSTYLIST CAME IN AND OPENED THEIR SALON AND UM, THEY DECIDED THAT WASN'T WHAT THEY WANTED TO USE THAT FOR.

THEY THEY WANTED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT'S CHANGED TO GENERAL RETAIL.

WHAT COULD GO IN THERE BESIDES A HAIR SALON? UH, GENERAL RETAIL IS ONE OF THE LEAST, UM, INTENSIVE DISTRICTS.

SO A RESTAURANT OFFICE TYPE USES.

UM, WELL THAT, WHEN YOU SAID THAT LEAST RESTRICTED, DOES THAT MEAN MORE THINGS CAN GO IN WHAT IS ZONED NOW? MM-HMM.

MORE THINGS THAN WHAT IS ZONED NOW? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, BUT THE ADJACENT, UH, PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS, I I MEAN WHAT IS ZONED NOW CAN MORE THINGS GO INTO IT THAN IF WE CHANGE THE ZONING? NO, THAT'S WHAT MY, OKAY, SO BACK TO YOUR POINT.

CAN A VAPE SHOP GO THERE NOW? THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.

CAN A VAPE SHOP GO THERE NOW? UH, SO A SMOKE SHOP, NO VAPE SHOP.

WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT SMOKE SHOP, VAPE, VAPE SHOP.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THE PROXIMITY.

IT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP.

DOES IT REQUIRE SUP NO MATTER THE PROXIMITY, CORRECT? NO.

LET'S PICK SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, LIQUOR VAPE SHOP.

LIQUOR STORE.

LIQUOR STORE.

CAN A LIQUOR STORE GO THERE NOW? STORE DENTIST? I I DON'T HAVE THE LAND USE CHART IN FRONT OF ME.

I BELIEVE SO.

LAND USE, I DON'T CARE.

ZONING.

CAN IT GO THERE? I I WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THE LAND USE CHART.

SEE, THE POINT IS SHE'S RIGHT ON POINT.

WE'RE NOT, SHE'D PROBABLY LOVE THE HAIR SALON THERE IF THE HAIR SALON'S GONNA LIVE THERE BUT FOREVER.

BUT GOODNESS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, THE HAIR SALON'S THERE AND SOMETHING GOES THERE.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

COULDN'T GO THERE NOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE WORDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

OKAY.

WHAT COULD GO THERE IF WE CHANGE THE ZONING THAT CAN'T GO THERE NOW TO BE BLUNT, RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER? YES.

MAYOR PROTE.

THANK YOU.

SO STAFF, CAN Y'ALL KINDA LOOK AT THAT AND TELL US BY THE END OF THE MEETING? SO SAVANNAH, WHAT UNDER OFFICE? WHAT CAN GO THERE? I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

MEDICAL OFFICES, POST OFFICE, UH, GENERAL OFFICES.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS ZONED NOW? YES.

MORE THINGS CAN GO THERE NOW THAN JUST GET THEM TO CHANGE IT FOR THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, SEE WHAT SHE'S AFTER.

SHE, SHE WANTS IT TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE, NOT LESS RESTRICTIVE IDEA.

YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD.

WHAT'S YOUR IDEA, SAVANNAH? WOULD IT WORK RATHER THAN CHANGING THE ZONING TO GR TO JUST CHANGE IT TO A PD WITH OFFICE PLUS THIS ONE USE? SO THAT IS NOT HOW THE REQUEST WAS NOTICED AND IT'S LESS THAN AN WOULD THAT ACRE WOULD, WOULD THAT WORK? NO, BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN AN ACRE.

YES.

MM-HMM.

OH, YOU HAVE TO BE MORE THAN AN ACRE TO HAVE A PD.

YES.

HOW CAN WE LET A, THE SALON GO THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? ? IF, IF COUNSEL WANTED US TO GO THE PD ROUTE AND AT, I MEAN I THOUGHT YOU SAID WE COULDN'T GO DO A PD 'CAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL.

REALLY? YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AC TYPICALLY.

TYPICALLY YOU WANT A LOT.

NOT TYPICALLY.

COULD WE TYPICALLY YOU WANT A LARGER SIZE LOT.

'CAUSE PDS ARE INTENDED TO BE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS.

BUT WE HAVE IN THE PAST, THE CITY HAS IN THE PAST ALLOWED FOR PDS TO BE USED ON SMALL LOTS.

RASHAD SPECIFIC.

I GET EXACTLY WHAT MAYOR PRO TEMS AFTER.

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YES.

AND YOU ARE TOO.

YEAH.

WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE RESTRICTIONS OF WHAT THE ZONING IS THERE NOW.

BUT LET HER HAVE A HAIR SALON.

YES.

FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

WELL, CAN WE JUST STATE IT? IS THAT, GO WITH IT.

IT HAS TO BE A IT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE REQUEST.

DIFFERENT ZONING REQUEST.

NO, NO.

BUT COULD THEY REQUEST THAT? YES, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

OH MY LORDY SAVANNAH.

MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? YES.

SAVANNAH.

DO WE HAVE THE, UH, APPLICANTS HERE? THERE'S NO CARDS.

ARE THE APPLICANTS HERE? APPLICANT IS HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT SOME COME ON DOWN QUESTIONS.

ARE YOU BUYING THE BUILDING? I, IT'S MINOR.

OKAY, WELL SEE, WE DON'T WANNA REALLY RESTRICT HER, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT, LET'S TALK TO HER.

LET'S, DO YOU KNOW WHAT HER PROBLEM IS? WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A HAIR SALON, BUT WE DON'T WANT AN ELECTRIC STORE.

SO MY NAME'S MARY GONZALEZ.

NICE TO MEET Y'ALL.

BUT, UM, I OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT I'M NOT THE ONE OPENING THE HAIR SALON.

I'M RENTING IT OUT.

IT'S FOR A TENANT AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDERSTAND OWNED OFFICE.

UM, AND SHE APPLIED FOR HER PERMIT.

UH, BUT THEY, ABDUL IS HIS NAME, I BELIEVE THE ONE THAT HAS THE CASE GOING ON.

AND HE TOLD HER THAT THE ONLY WAY HE COULD, THAT SHE COULD OBTAIN PERMIT AND HE'S RIGHT.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA WE'RE IN? YES.

THAT YOU DON'T WANNA OPEN UP OTHER DOORS? YES.

YES.

SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO WHAT STAFF IS SUGGESTING? UHHUH .

THAT WOULD DELAY IT OR BOY, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YEAH, CAN HAVE A HAIR SALON, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN PUT IN THERE.

I CAN'T.

YEAH.

HOW LONG WOULD IT BE DELAYED? UM, WE COULD DELAY IT.

JUST TWO WEEKS.

TWO WEEKS? NO, IT'D BE DELAYED LONGER THAN THAT.

'CAUSE IT'S GOTTA GO BACK THROUGH PZ NOTICE NOTICING AND GOING BACK THROUGH PZ NOTICES AND ALL THAT.

YES.

GOODNESS.

OKAY.

SO THEN YOU, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE RISK OF WHAT, WHAT ELSE WOULD GO IN THERE? A A LIQUOR STORE.

CAN CAN A LIQUOR STORE GO THE ZONING SHE HAS? YES.

I DON'T THINK SO.

OH YES.

FOR GR BUT NOT FOR OFFICE.

NOT OFFICE.

NOT FOR OFFICE.

GR CAN A LIQUOR STORE GO IN THE ZONING? SHE HAS THE OFFICE.

NOT OFFICE.

NO, NOT OFFICE.

NO.

SO THE ANSWER TO THIS, NO.

AND SAVANNAH, WHAT ARE THE ADJACENT, UM, ZONINGS TO THIS BUILDING? TO THIS REQUEST TO THE EAST, EXCUSE ME, IS, UH, GENERAL RETAIL.

UM, AND THEN TO THE WEST.

IT'S OFFICE.

BUT IT IS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, BUT IT'S WHAT ASSISTED LIVING.

OKAY, SO THEY COULD RIGHT NEXT DOOR, GEORGIA.

THEY COULD PUT ONE IN NEXT DOOR, A LIQUOR STORE, RIGHT? GEORGIA.

THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET.

I THINK SO.

I THINK IT'S LIKE A LIQUOR STORE.

I DON'T KNOW.

GEORGIA MAY NOT BE WORTH TRYING TO DELAY A MONTH.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE THE TENANTS.

I KNOW YOU DON'T, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND.

UH, YEAH.

SINCE THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY THINGS THAT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D GAIN.

GEORGIA.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

UM, THE TENANT THAT WANTS TO BE IN THERE, ARE THEY CURRENTLY IN BUSINESS SOMEWHERE? DO THEY ALREADY HAVE CUSTOMERS? I THINK SHE'S AN IRVING, I BELIEVE.

OH, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY'S IRVING.

OKAY.

I MO NO, I'M JOKING.

? I THINK SO.

I'M NOT SURE.

I MEAN, I DON'T, YES, GO TO HER.

HER COURSE.

SHE'S NOTMEYER STYLIST.

UH, BUT I THINK, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SHE'S NOW GEORGIA.

I THINK SINCE RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT ANYWAY.

RIGHT? WHAT'S HER PROBLEM? I MEAN, WHAT'S RIGHT? I THINK WE ARE ALL OKAY.

I WOULDN'T WANT A LIQUOR STORE NEXT DOOR.

I WE'RE NEITHER.

HONESTLY.

I I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

OKAY.

.

UM, MAYOR, I DO WANNA POINT OUT FROM THIS, UM, PICTURE WHAT'S NEXT DOOR THAT'S ALREADY GR AREN'T ALREADY BUILT OUT BUILDINGS, SO THEY OKAY.

THEY AREN'T BUILT YET.

YEAH, THEY'RE NOT, NOTHING'S BUILT THERE.

OKAY.

SO WOULD BE SO THEY COULDN'T JUST OPEN ONE UP QUICK, BUT EXACTLY.

THIS WOULD BE VERY EASY HYPOTHETICALLY IF SHE WAS TO SELL TO, OR AT LEAST TO A, UM, SMOKE SHOP OR A LIQUOR STORE.

IT'S HYPOTHETICALLY, WHERE'S THIS LOCATED? IT'S LIKE CLOSE.

GREAT.

SOUTHWEST IN DALWORTH NEXT TO THE SUNBELT.

OH YEAH.

DALWORTH INDUSTRIAL.

MY GOODNESS.

EVERYTHING'S ALONG THERE.

YEAH.

.

WE'RE NOT STOPPING I THINK.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.

YEAH, IT'S GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD DO THAT TO MY OWN PROPERTY EITHER.

TO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT FROM YOU.

THINGS CHANGE.

.

WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU .

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR.

UM, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 23 ZONING.

CHANGE A MOTION SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A THE OPPOSED A NAY A ITEM 24.

[24. SUP-24-09-0039 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Heavy Truck Parking at 4226 E Main (City Council District 5). SUP/Site Plan for a Heavy Truck Parking Facility on 38.0 acres. A portion of Lot 1, Block 1, and Lot 1, Block 2, Dallas Auto Auction Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial (LI) and Heavy Industrial (HI), with an approximate address of 4226 E Main St (On December 9, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions by a vote of 9-0)]

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OKAY, ITEM 24 IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT LOCATED AT 4 2 2 6 EAST MAIN STREET.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSAL AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS ON ABOUT 37.65 ACRES.

UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR HEAVY TRUCK PARKING.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE AREA, UH, SHADED AND THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THIS REQUEST.

UH, THERE ARE, UH, SOME EXISTING SUVS FOR, UH, FLEA MARKET AND, UH, SALVAGE.

AND UM, THEY ARE FOCUSED ON THE EAST PORTION TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE REQUEST FOR THE HEAVY TRUCK PARKING.

UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING 985 TRUCK PARKING SPACES, UH, A GUARD SHACK WITH A RESTROOM.

UH, AND THEN THEY ARE PROPOSING A MASON NEW SCREENING WALL UP, UH, TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN SEE IN ORANGE.

UM, THEY ARE, UH, HAVE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR PROPOSAL THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UM, AND, AND TREES, WHICH IS MEETING THAT FIRST, UH, OR UH, NO LONGER REQUIRING THAT FIRST UH, VARIANCE.

UM, THERE IS EXISTING ASPHALT PAVEMENT ON A PORTION OF THE SITE.

UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PAVE THE REST OF THE LOCATION AND ASPHALT.

UM, ON DECEMBER 9TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

UH, THE FIRST IS THAT THE NEW DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AND ACCEPTED BY TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SERVICES BEFORE THE CO'S ISSUED.

UH, THERE IS, UM, SOME RECONFIGURATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAPPENED.

IT IS KIND OF A, A BIG DIP.

UM, ALL AREAS WHERE VEHICLES ARE PARKED, UH, SHOULD BE PAVED, UH, PER CITY STANDARDS UNLESS IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC.

UM, HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENTS.

UH, THIS WAS ONE DEVIATION FROM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THE GUARD ACT SHALL MEET SECONDARY FACADE REQUIREMENTS OF APPENDIX X AND THE LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR APPENDIX X REQUIREMENTS, UH, STAFFS, UH, RECOMMENDING WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS.

ONE MODIFICATION IS THAT THEY ARE, UH, PAVED WITH CONCRETE FOR CITY STANDARDS.

UH, IT'S AN INTENSIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE.

THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, IS REQUESTING ASPHALT, UH, THE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN.

AND SO THERE'S SOME COMPLICATIONS, UM, WITH IMPROVING IT.

UH, AND THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT AND CAN EXPLAIN, UH, KIND OF THEIR REQUEST AND THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

UH, TONY, I KNOW YOU'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.

UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU SAVANNAH.

WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED ALL FOUR OF YOU TO SPEAK.

UH, BUT WE'LL START DOWN THE LIST.

DANIEL BOX, WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? WE'LL BE FLEXIBLE 'CAUSE THERE'S FOUR CARDS.

JUST TELL US YOUR NAME AND WE'LL MARK IT OFF HERE.

HI, UH, MY NAME'S PAISLEY BONY FROM, UH, 1 27 ESSEX ROAD IN BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M DANIEL GLASER FROM 2 61 FIFTH AVENUE.

UH, NEW YORK.

NEW YORK.

SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME TONIGHT.

UM, WE CERTAINLY CAN ASK, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW.

OH, I CAN'T SEE.

DOES THIS POP UP ON THE SCREEN OR DO I NEED TO DO SOMETHING? OH, GREAT.

SO, UH, I'LL KIND OF CUT TO THE CHASE.

SO THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN LEASED TO INSURANCE, AUTO AUCTION, WHICH IS AN AUTO SALVAGE COMPANY FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.

UH, ON THIS SCREEN YOU CAN SEE INITIALLY WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2021, THEY OCCUPIED THE ENTIRE 65 ACRES.

UM, THEY'VE SUBSEQUENTLY DOWNSIZED TO ABOUT HALF THE SITE ON THE WESTERN SIDE.

UM, AS PART OF THIS, UH, DISCUSSION, WE LOOKED AT THAT EASTERN PORTION.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES.

THERE ARE SALVAGE YARDS TO THE SOUTH OF US AS WELL.

AND THERE'S THE, UH, RACETRACK SORT OF, UH, DRAG RACE THING ON THE EAST THERE AS WELL.

UM, AS PART OF OUR, UH, DISCUSSIONS, WE HAVE PROPOSED THIS SITE PLAN.

UH, SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED WERE THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, UH, UH, SERVICE ROAD AT THE BASE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE, WHEN WE, UM, INITIALLY LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY FROM MAIN STREET DOWN TO THE SERVICE ROAD, THERE'S A PRETTY STEEP DECLINE.

SO A LOT OF THE BIG TRUCKS AS THEY COME IN, THEY COME IN AND THEY SCRAPE THERE, WHICH CAUSES THEM TO GO SUPER SLOW AS THEY'RE APPROACHING AND CAN CAUSE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES.

WE'VE WORKED WITH TEXAS DOT, WE ACTUALLY GOT PERMITS TWO HOURS AGO OFFICIALLY ISSUED BY TEXAS DOT

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TO DO THIS IMPROVEMENT, WHICH EFFECTIVELY, UH, REGRADES AND RE PAVES THE WHOLE, UH, ENTRANCE INTO THIS SITE, INTO THE SERVICE ROAD, UH, IN A MANNER THAT WILL ALLOW THE, UM, TRUCKS TO GO THROUGH WITHOUT ANY SCRAPING.

UM, AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO DO THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN'T TOTALLY SEE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS AN EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL, UH, WITH SHRUBS AND TREES TO HELP BLOCK, UM, THE VISUAL AESTHETIC OF THE, UH, OF THE YARD, WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTS AS ASPHALT YARD.

UM, AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION, OH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GONNA MENTION IS THAT WE HAVE ON THE, UH, EASTERN WALL THERE, WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME, UH, ENHANCED, UH, WALL FEATURES THAT WOULD ADD SECURITY TO OUR SITE AS WELL AS, UM, PROVIDE MORE, UM, DIMINUTION OF NOISE AND THINGS THAT OCCUR FROM, FROM THE AREA.

SO, UM, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.

UH, WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BE A GREAT USE FOR THE SITE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH OTHER SALVAGE COMPANIES, BUT WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET MUCH BETTER CREDIT COMPANIES TO COME, UH, AND LEASE THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR THEIR LOGISTICS OPERATIONS.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DO TONY, DO YOU NEED TO HEAR THE OTHER THREE SPEAKERS OR DO YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR 'EM, OR ARE YOU PREPARED? THEY'RE WITH US ANYWAY, SO THEY'RE, YEAH.

NOT, NOT REALLY.

I THINK WE WORKED, WORKED REAL HARD WITH THEM.

I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I YES, SIR.

LISTENING TO YOU MADE ME THINK OF.

UH, WOULD, WELL, DON'T REALLY HAVE TO ASK YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO ADD TO THE STIPULATION TO THIS IS THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWING ANY, UH, MECHANIC WORK.

MECHANIC WORK WORKING ON THE TRUCKS OUT, UH, ON THE SIDE.

YEAH.

THE INTENT IS NOT TO HAVE TO YEAH, NOT TO.

HE'S GONNA PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.

YEAH.

SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A DEAL KILLER.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A, WE DON'T WANT IT BE A TRUCK MECHANIC SHOP OUT THERE REPAIR PLACE.

YEAH.

WE DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME A, WELL, JUST, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT TRUCK REPAIR IS AN AS IS A PERMITTED USE BY THE ZONING.

LET'S FIND OUT FOR THIS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

I HAVE TO, FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

OH, THIS IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

SORRY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED OUTSIDE THOUGH.

YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T INTEND TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED.

I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S A PERMITTED USE.

THERE WE'RE, IF IN THE FUTURE, UM, WE WANTED TO BUILD A BUILDING ON IT, AS OF RIGHT.

IF YOU, I DON'T WANT TO HURT THAT IN THE BUILDING, BUT I'M, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ANY OUTSIDE SIDE MECHANIC WORK.

AND THAT WOULD BE COVERED WHEN YOU BROUGHT FORTH THE BUILDING AND, AND YEAH.

IF YOU BROUGHT, BROUGHT FORTH THE BUILDING, THEN YOU'D, THAT WOULD WORK.

YOU GOOD WITH THAT? RASHAD? WHAT'S SET? , ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? RASHAD? I'M SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO ANSWER THE INITIAL QUESTION ABOUT THE TRUCK REPAIR.

WELL, THAT, THAT WAS THE TRUCK REPAIR QUESTION.

UH, I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE WE ALLOW OUTSIDE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIRS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T LOSE IT IF YOU DO IT.

I'M GONNA SAY OUTSIDE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF YOU WANNA DO IT INSIDE, YOU STILL CAN MAKE, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WE LEASE THIS TO A, A LARGE COMPANY, LET'S CALL IT A FEDEX.

AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR TRUCKS THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A BLOWN TIRE OR OH, THEY CAN FIX THE TIRES.

YOU KNOW, JUST YEAH, SMALL, SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT.

SMALL STUFF YOU CAN ALWAYS DO.

I MEAN, FIX A TIRE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DIESEL REPAIR SHOP.

YOU JUST CAN'T PULL EM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT.

YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NO JACKETED UP IN OIL CHANGES.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

AND, UH, I WANT TO, WE, PART OF THIS IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN, I BELIEVE, AND PART OF A LITTLE, LITTLE PIECE OF IT IS IN THE FLOODWAY.

I THINK ALL OF THIS IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT ARE NOT, UH, USED OR IN THE FLOOD WAY.

UH, WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR ON THIS BECAUSE OF YES.

PUTTING, PUTTING UP, PUTTING UP, UH, WALLS OR ANYTHING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

YEAH.

IT'S SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE EFFECTS.

BE PROBLEM GENERALLY IF THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE, YOU GO TO CURRENT STANDARDS PARKING LOTS BY OUR STANDARDS OR ONE FOOT ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS ABOUT FIVE FEET HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING GROUND RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU'D HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THAT EXTRA FILL THAT YOU USED TO FOR THE FLOODPLAIN.

IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH RYAN, WE SPOKE ABOUT, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE PAVEMENT.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS PICTURE.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER ON HERE, BUT HALF OF THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY ALREADY CONCRETE AND THE OTHER HALF IS SIGNIFICANTLY COMPACTED, LIKE 10 TO 12 INCHES OF ROCK BASE WITH ASPHALT ON TOP.

AND SO OUR PROPOSAL HAS BEEN TO DO, UH, MILL OFF THE TOP TWO INCHES OF THE ASPHALT AND PUT FRESH ASPHALT ON TOP.

AND IN DISCUSSIONS WITH RYAN, THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.

BUT IT GOES TO CONCRETE.

UM, WE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WE'RE PROPOSING NOT TO GO TO CONCRETE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING.

AND ALSO WITH THE BUILDING AS WELL.

THAT WOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WHAT'S THAT IN

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THE BUILDING IF YOU DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING THAT TO BE BROUGHT UP, THERE IS NO BUILDING A HUNDRED PERCENT BUILDING THE BUILDING'S ON THE WESTERN SIDE MM-HMM .

AND SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE PORTION OF THE EAST RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S COMPLETELY VACANT.

BUT CERTAINLY IF THERE, IF THERE WERE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE FUTURE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FLOOD STUFF AND JUST NONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW TO MEET THE GUIDELINES FOR THE SUP ARE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS FOR A LONG TIME ON THIS, AND THAT'S BEEN A BIG POINT OF DISCUSSION.

UM, AND FROM EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TOLD, NOTHING THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSING IS CONSIDERED THAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD CAUSE EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TO STAY AWAY FROM HAVING TO DO THAT.

'CAUSE THAT WOULD KILL THE WHOLE PROJECT.

AND ARE YOUR WALLS IN THE FLOODPLAIN? DO, ARE THEY SOLID TO THE GROUND? ARE THEY, SO THE STAFF, UH, REQUESTED THAT WE PROVIDE MASONRY WALLS, UM, ON YEAH, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

IF YOU CAN SEE, STAFF MAY REQUEST SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

YEAH, THAT'S, SO THAT WALL RIGHT THERE, IT WOULD BE A NEW WALL I WOULD THINK.

I WOULD THINK TONY'S MOTION WILL HAVE TO BE THAT THE WALL WILL HAVE TO BE AS PERMITTED BY, BY THE FLOOD PLAIN REGULATIONS.

FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH MAY BE THEY'RE OPEN, NOT LIKE WROUGHT IRON.

WE, WE WANT SOLID 'CAUSE WE WANT YELLOW BELLY NOISE MITIGATED.

EVEN, EVEN THE, EVEN THE ONE ON THE MAIN STREET SIDE.

BUT WE CAN'T, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE PENETRABLE SOMEHOW.

YEAH.

SO IT COULD BE LIKE TWO OR THREE FEET UP OFF THE GROUND.

IT COULD, THERE'S, THERE'S A RULE OF HOW, HOW YOUNG WORK GET OUT.

WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

RIGHT.

AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF.

WE CAN COME STAFF TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

YEAH.

LANDSCAPING TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

THAT WAS THEIR IDEA OR THEIR REQUEST FOR THE MASONRY WALL, WHICH WE SAID NO PROBLEM.

UM, BUT IT, IT MAY, IF WE'LL GET TO THAT TONY, IT'S NOT MASONRY.

WE CAN PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THE WALL THAT'S NOT, IT MAY END UP BEING A PROBLEM.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT WHO, WHO'S DOING THE FLOOD PLAN ADMINISTRATING NOW? UH, RYAN HARRELL.

RYAN'S STILL DOING IT.

MM-HMM .

GOOD.

GOOD.

SO, UH, Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING WITH RYAN.

WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH RYAN.

YEAH.

HE'S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL.

YOU READY? THAT WILL COME UP IN THE, WHEN YOU COME IN FOR YOUR BUILDING PERMITS.

RIGHT.

SO ALL THAT'LL COME UP THEN.

UM, BUT SCREENING IT OFF SOME WAY SOMEHOW ON THE FRONT AND DOING SOMETHING ALONG THE EAST SIDE SOMEHOW.

SOME, THE ONLY CLARIFICATION WE DISCUSSED WAS ON THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE PROPOSED WITH THESE LANDSCAPING ALONG EAST MAIN STREET, AND AS FAR AS WE'RE AWARE THAT MEETS, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO, SO WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT'S, I'LL ADD IN MY MOTION THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY LANDSCAPING REQUIRED INTERNALLY.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UM, THEN I GUESS MY MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THIS WITH THE SAVANNA.

CAN YOU PUT THE CONDITIONS THAT, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MIX OF P AND ZS AND A LITTLE MIX OF YOURS.

HMM.

OKAY.

THE PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION'S, RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, YOU GOOD WITH ALL FOUR OF THOSE? I'M GOOD WITH ALL FOUR OF THOSE.

UH, MAYBE NOT.

NUMBER FOUR.

UH, LANDSCAPING OUTSIDE.

NO LANDSCAPING INTERNALLY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S REQUIRED ANYWAY.

IS IT? YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY PROVIDE THE LANDSCAPING AS DEPICTED ON THEIR PLANS.

AS DEPICTED ON YOUR PLANS.

OKAY.

SO ALL FOUR OF THOSE, EXCEPT NUMBER FOUR WOULD BE JUST LANDSCAPING IS ALREADY DEPICTED ON YOUR PLAN.

GOOD.

AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT STAFF HAD, OR THIS THEM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN ZONING ONE STAFF HAD SOME ABOUT PAVING IT TO CONCRETE STANDARDS AND THAT WAS IT BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE GOT TAKEN AWAY THE 25 FEET.

YEAH.

BUT IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE CAME IN AND, AND YOU ADDED, I THINK THEY CALLED IT, THERE WERE SHOT CLAUSE , WHICH WE CAME UP WITH SOME WORDING DURING THE MEETING, WHICH IS, UH, NUMBER TWO.

THAT'S A MIX OF STAFF'S REQUIREMENTS CONTINGENT UPON ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT JUST CAME UP.

SO THAT'S RASHAD'S AMENDMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT, SO IT'S COVERED IF TONY SAYS THAT I'M COVERED, AS LONG AS OUR ENGINEERING STAFF IS GOOD WITH IT, UH, CINDY'S DEPARTMENT'S GOOD WITH IT.

AND FLOODPLAIN PEOPLE SAY IT'S OKAY.

IT'S OKAY WITH US.

THAT'S WHY WE PAY THEM THE BIG MONEY TO HELP US MAKE THOSE KIND OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING TYPE DECISIONS.

AND, UH, THEY DO A DADGUM GOOD JOB OF IT.

UH, SO THAT'S WHAT IS THE MOTION? THE GUARD SHACK WILL BE MADE

[01:10:01]

OUT OF WHAT? UH, TBD.

WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT.

WE COULD BUILD IT FROM SCRATCH.

UH, WE COULD BUY ONE THAT'S PREBUILT.

UM, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE, THE, THE PERMIT IS.

IF IT'S PREBUILT, IT'S GOTTA BE STUCK TO THE GROUND.

.

YEAH.

IT HAS TO MEET CODE.

WE KNOW THE GUARD SHACK MAKE ENGINEER JUST HAS TO MEET CODE.

YEAH.

IT JUST HAS TO MEET CODE.

RIGHT.

AND WE'LL HAVE RESTROOMS. YES.

BECAUSE WE WE WANT RESTROOMS HANDY.

WE WILL HAVE RESTROOMS. YES.

YOU DON'T, YOU WANT RESTROOMS HANDY? YES.

FOR CERTAIN THE SECURITY GUARDS AND FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, TENANTS.

THAT'S MY MOTION THEN.

ALL RIGHT.

CLEAR.

MEL.

MEL, MEL NEEDS A RESTATEMENT.

HE'S, HE'S, HIS MOTION IS DO EVERYTHING PER P AND Z EXCEPT FOR HE SWAPS WITH, INSTEAD OF BEING APPENDIX EXPERT REQUIREMENTS, IT'S THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S ALREADY DEPICTED ON THEIR PLAN.

OKAY.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AY NAY MOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, SAVANNAH

[25. SUP-24-10-0045 - Specific Use Permit - Flex-N-Gate Private Fuel Station (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit for a Private Fuel Station at an existing industrial development. Lot 1R, Block D, Bardin Road Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas and Tarrant Counties, Texas, zoned PD-372, within the IH-20 Corridor Overlay District, and located at 2150 W Bardin Rd (On December 9, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 8-1)]

AND FLEXING GATE GENTLEMEN.

UH, I'M GONNA ENTER.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA TABLE THIS.

I'M GONNA ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION BEFORE WE ALLOW ANY SPEAKERS.

IS THAT YOUR PLEASURE TO ASK FOR A TABLING COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ? YES.

YOU HAVE TO BE TABLED.

AND THEN FOR US TO SET UP MEETING PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE'VE GOT A MOTION OF TABLE.

CAN I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE MOTION TABLE.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

I.

OPPOSED SE THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 26.

[26. TAM-24-11-0010 - Text Amendment - Articles 1, 2, 6, 7, 12 and Appendix O. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas amending the Table of Contents and various sections of Article 1, “General Provisions and Procedures,” Article 2, “Authority,” Article 6, “Density and Dimensional Requirements,” Article 7, “Special Districts,” Article 12, “Subdivision and Utilities,” and Appendix O, “Hospital District” of the Grand Prairie Unified Development Code for the purpose of delegating plat approvals (with exceptions) to the Director of the Planning and Development Department and/or designee; Providing the applicant the right to appeal said decision to the Planning and Zoning Commission; Allowing the Director of the Planning and Development Department and/or designee to elect to present the plat approval to the Planning and Zoning Commission; Amending Section 12.17.3, “Lots,” of Article 12, “Subdivision and Utilities” of the Unified Development Code for the purpose of allowing the Director of the Planning and Development Department and/or designee to grant an exception to the requirement that all lots face a public street if a mutual access easement is established; Repealing all Ordinances or Parts of Ordinances in Conflict Herewith; Containing a Savings Clause and a Severability Clause; and Establishing the Effective as the Date of Passage and Approval (On December 9, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 9-0)]

ALRIGHT, ITEM 26 IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLES 1, 2, 6, 7, 12 AND APPENDIX O.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND, UH, THESE ARTICLES TO DELEGATE PLAT APPROVALS TO STAFF WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS.

AND THIS WILL ALLOW, UH, THE DIRECTOR, UM, AND DESIGNEE OR STAFF TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE PLATS.

UH, CURRENTLY PLATS GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, PLATS ARE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACT AND THAT IF THEY ARE MEETING THE LOT, UH, WIDTH DEPTH AREA REQUIREMENTS, IF THEY'RE SHOWING ALL THE UTILITY EASEMENTS AS NEEDED, UH, THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED.

SO THERE'S NO DISCRETION IN THE APPROVAL OF THESE FLATS.

UH, STATE LAW DOES ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL TO DELEGATE AUTHORITY.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES IS TO ALLOW STAFF APPROVAL OF THE EXCEPTION TO THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT IF CROSS ACCESS IS BEING ESTABLISHED.

UH, IN THE PAST, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF PLATS THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, 'CAUSE THEY DID NOT, UH, FRONT A STREET.

UM, AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW, UH, STAFF TO APPROVE THAT EXCEPTION AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY ACCESS EASEMENTS IN PLACE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT LOT.

UM, SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO DELEGATE, UH, PLATTING AUTHORITY, UM, WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS, UH, TO THE DIRECTOR, UH, PLANNING OR DESIGNEE.

UH, AND ON DECEMBER 9TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS WELL.

THIS CONCLUDES MY, UH, PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

EXCUSE ME.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

DON'T NEED ANY SPEAKERS.

I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'D MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

THANK WE HAVE MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

I AIN'T OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER

[Items 27 & 28]

JOHNSON, YOU'RE WANTING TO TABLE ITEMS 27 AND 28.

CAN HE, CAN HE MAKE THAT ONE MOTION? I'D LIKE TO TABLE ITEMS 27 AND 28 2.

THE JANUARY 21ST MEETING.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM IS ON.

YOU ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

A OPPOSED SAY NAY.

LAST ITEM 29.

[29. ZON-24-09-0025 - Zoning Change/Concept Plan - Polo SFA Amendment (City Council District 6). PD Amendment (PD-410A) to allow 1,600 sq. ft. Single Family Attached units on 2.909 acres. Tract 11.3, Thomas J. Tone Survey, Abstract No. 1460, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-410A and approximated addresses of 4529-4554 Harmony Ct (On November 11, 2024, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0)]

ITEM 29, UH, IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT, UM, ON, UH, POLO ROAD.

THIS WAS TABLED FROM THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE DWELLING UNIT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FROM, UH, 2,100 SQUARE FEET TO 1,600 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THIS INITIALLY CAME THROUGH AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, I THINK IN 2021.

AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSED, UH, STANDARDS, UM, THEY THEN AMENDED THAT TO DECREASE THE REQUIREMENT, UH, FROM 2,600 SQUARE FEET, UH, TO 2,100 SQUARE FEET AND 2024.

UM, SO THE REQUEST IS, UH, DOES NOT CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION.

I I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THEIR PROPOSED MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF 1,600 IS HIGHER THAN THE UDC, WHICH SPECIFIES 1,200 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THEIR TOTAL OF 23 UNITS, UM, AND 20 OF THOSE UNITS WILL HAVE MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF 1,600 SQUARE FEET.

AND THREE OF THOSE UNITS WILL HAVE, UH, A LIVING AREA HIGHER THAN THAT.

UH, THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE TONIGHT.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

DOES

[01:15:01]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? I GOT ONE MAYOR.

OKAY.

SAVANNAH.

COUNCILMAN SHOTWELL SAVANNAH ON THEIR DRAWINGS, HOW BIG ARE THEIR GARAGES? 20 BY 20? UH, I BELIEVE SO.

YES.

SO THAT'S ON 400 SQUARE FEET.

SO THEY REALLY MISCALCULATED BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 500 LOWER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

OKAY.

OLA AL.

I PUT THEM IN THE MAIL.

UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE VOTE LAST VOTE WAS EIGHT TO OH.

COUNCIL MEMBER DELBOSQUE HAD TO LEAVE THE DIOCESE LAST VOTES.

THANK YOU.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOME OF THEM.

.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

'CAUSE THERE WAS TWO ITEMS. YOU'RE RIGHT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

YES.

MY NAME IS OLA BANGO, UM, 1 0 1 1 9 NORMAN COURT, IRVING, TEXAS.

I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE, THIS PROJECT.

UH, WE NEVER CHANGED THE PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING.

WHAT WE STRUGGLE WITH IS THE DEFINITION OF THE, UH, ACCEPTABLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SIZE.

INITIALLY WE PROPOSED TO DO 26,000, 2,600 MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT OUR FOOTPRINT WAS GONNA BE 1300 AND WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO TWO FLOORS AND TWO.

SO WE WERE DECLARING TOTAL.

THAT WAS BEFORE WE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL.

BY THE TIME WE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL, OUR BUILDING WAS LESS THAN 26.

IT CAME DOWN TO ABOUT 24.

SO WE RAN INTO TROUBLE BECAUSE WE HAD DECLARED THAT WE WANTED TO DO 26.

SO WE WENT BACK AND SAID WE WANTED TO DO 21.

AND THEN WE RAN INTO TROUBLE THAT WE HAD NOT TAKEN OUT THE THICKNESSES OF THE WALLS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TAKEN OUT THE AREA OF THE GARAGE AND THE AREA OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO THAT IT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DECLARING SHOULD BE THE CLEAN AREA OF A HABITABLE AIR CONDITION SPACE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE.

UH, WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT OUR MINIMUM HABITABLE SPACE IS 1600, EVEN THOUGH THE LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE MINIMUM IS 1200.

SO WE'RE WITHIN THE LAW, WE'RE JUST CONFUSED.

SO WE WANT YOUR, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR, YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR OUR CONFUSION.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE DRAWING.

WE ARE JUST CONFUSED ABOUT HOW WE DEFINE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, BUT WHERE WE DIDN'T BELONG.

THANK YOU.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.

KURT.

I, I SPOKE TO RASHAD EARLIER ABOUT THE H OA AND P SO I'M GOOD.

I SPOKE TO, UH, RASHAD EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE OA AND P THAT YOU GUYS GONNA HAVE A HOA, UH, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA BE PART OF THE WESTCHESTER PI.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M GOOD.

I'M READY.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU SIR FOR COMING DOWN TODAY.

I APPRECIATE YOU DEVELOPING THIS IN WESTCHESTER.

THANK YOU.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 29 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

SECOND.

WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND BY COUNCIL MAYOR HEADMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? YEP.

COUNSEL JOHNSON.

UH, IS THE HOA REQUIRED, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REQUIRED, BUT I ASKED HAW WOULD THEY HAVE THEY OWN HOA OR BE A PART OF THE PIT? HE SAID THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN HOA AND BE PART OF WESTCHESTER PIT OUT THERE.

MOTION.

SO THE PROPERTY ITSELF HAS OPEN SPACE LOTS THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY HOA AND THEN THE PROPERTY OVERALL IS WITHIN THE EXISTING WESTCHESTER PI.

SO THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK THE P FOR ACCEPTANCE IN IT.

THEY'RE ALREADY IN IT.

THEY'RE ALREADY IN IT.

OKAY.

IN AND THE, THE HOA IS IN IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASE? YES.

OKAY.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

THANKS.

OKAY.

YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT THEN? ALL SECOND.

THAT'S GOOD TO ME.

GOOD.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

I AIN'T OPPOSED SAY

[01:20:01]

NAY.

EIGHT O.

YOU BET.

OKAY.

HAROLD WILLIS,

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

HAROLD WILLIS.

5 3 8 LINLEY.

I WANT TO START THE YEAR OFF ON PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE IDENTIFIED, I DON'T HAVE THE PICTURES IN HERE, THE LIGHT POLES, THE STREETLIGHT POLES.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT THEY'VE RUSTED THROUGH.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE BASE, YOU CAN COMPLETELY SEE THROUGH THE POLES.

I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IS, UM, 40 YEARS OLD.

THIS IS TRAMBLE CROW'S FIRST RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN 1985.

THE FIRE PLUGS FIRE HYDRANTS 7 19 85 WRITTEN ON THEM.

THERE IS ONE POLE, PARTICULARLY AT PAIN AND CAROLINA AND, OH, EXCUSE ME.

UM, YEAH, CAROLINA, YOU CAN SEE COMPLETELY THROUGH IT.

NOW THAT THE GRASS IS NOT GROWING AND DYING OFF MY LITTLE BLACK LAB, HE AND I WALK AND WE IDENTIFY THIS.

THERE'S SOME OTHERS IN THROUGH THERE ALSO.

I KNOW THESE POLES ARE 40 YEARS OLD.

THEY'RE PRETTY HEAVY.

UH, WE NEED TO, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT REPLACING THESE POLES IS SINCE ENCORE, WE PAY ENCORE FOR MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THESE POLES.

SO I REALIZE THAT CITIZENS' COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK.

IF I COULD HAVE SOMEONE FROM STAFF COME OUT, I WILL WALK WITH YOU AND I'LL SHOW YOU.

THERE'S SEVERAL THERE THAT, THAT YOU CAN JUST SEE COMPLETELY THROUGH THEM.

I LEARNED WHEN MY GRANDFATHER WORKED FOR LONE STAR GAS, HE SHOWED ME TO LOOK FOR THE PIPES ON THE GROUND THAT WERE RUSTING THROUGH.

SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER THE NAME KEITH COAT DOWN ON MYERS ROAD AND HIGHWAY 80 WITH THE PIPE WRAPPING THAT WAS PUT ON DURING WORLD WAR II.

A LOT OF THE GAS PIPES, THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT AND THEY RUSTED OUT.

SO JUST LOOKING, WHEN YOU'RE WALKING BY, YOU CAN LOOK DOWN AND CLEARLY SEE COMPLETELY THROUGH THE POLES.

MY FEAR IS SOMEONE IS GONNA BE DRIVING BY.

NO, WE GET A HALF INCH OF ICE THE NEXT DAY OR WE JUST GET A STRAIGHT LINE WIND AND SOMEBODY HAS TWO KIDS IN CAR SEATS IN THE BACKSEAT OF THE CAR, OVER GOES THAT POLE ON THAT CAR WHILE SOMEONE'S DRIVING.

IN ADDITION, THE LIGHT POLES UP AND DOWN CARRIER, THEY ARE OVER 40 YEARS OLD.

'CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN CROW PUT THAT DEVELOPMENT IN.

SO WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THOSE POLES UP AND DOWN CARRIER? I KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE RUSTING OUT ALSO.

SO HOW DO WE GET A HOLD OF SOMEONE FROM, FROM ENCORE? I KNOW ENCORE IS GONNA SUB THAT OUT, THE STANDARD UTILITIES, BUT THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE AS WE COME INTO, I MEAN, HECK WITH THE ICE THAT'S COMING ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT.

BUT MY CONCERN IS SOMEBODY'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD OR JUST PARKED THERE AND THOSE POLES ARE HEAVY.

SOME OF THE NEWER POLES THAT HAD BEEN REPLACED AT NEWBERRY AND MERCER, THEY'RE MUCH LARGER IN DIAMETER AND THEY LOOK A LOT BETTER.

THEY'RE MUCH TALLER THAT IT'S TIME FOR A MAKEOVER FOR THE WHOLE, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 20, PERHAPS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY ALSO THAT HAVE THESE OLDER POLES IN THEM.

UH, I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN.

IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS ADVERTISING WITH TEXAS MONTHLY, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I DON'T WANNA OFFSET THAT WITH THE NEGATIVE PUBLICITY OF SOMEBODY GOT KILLED OR THE KIDS GOT KILLED BECAUSE A LIGHT POLE BLEW OVER.

AND IS THIS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OR IS IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ENCORE OR STANDARD UTILITY, WHOEVER THAT IS.

BUT PLEASE, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET AND I'LL BRING MY LITTLE LAB OUT THERE AND WE'LL GO WALKING AND WE'LL TAKE SOME PICTURES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.