Oct 28, 2024 Planning &amp; Zoning 10282024

NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE RISE TO JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE TO ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, NATION UNDERGONE THEIR GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH THE LIBERTY OF JUSTICE.

FOR WRONG ON HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TO TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.

AND IN THIS, IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS? NOT FOR THIS ITEM, MA'AM.

THE

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE IS ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

MADAM CHAIR, MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 14TH, 2024 MEETING? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO AND IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS

FIRST

[2. STP-24-02-0011 – Site Plan – The Grove at Grand Prairie (City Council District 1). Site Plan for a townhome development with 59 lots on 5.91 acres. Lots 1-70 and Grand Oaks Drive ROW, Green Oaks Estate Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Multi Family-One (MF-1) District, within the SH-161 Corridor Overlay District, generally located north of W. Marshall Drive and east of Robinson Road]

CASE PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

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THANK YOU, JUNE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE FIRST CASE, UH, TONIGHT IS ITEM TWO, UH, S STP 24 0 2 0 0 11, A SITE PLAN FOR THE GROVE AT GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO THIS, UH, SITE PLAN IS TO ALLOW 59 TOWN HOMES, UH, 59 ATTACHED TOWN HOMES LOCATED AT NORTHWEST MARSHALL DRIVE AND EAST OF ROBINSON ROAD.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY ONE, MF ONE, AND IS LOCATED ON 5.91 ACRES.

UH, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

SO THESE TOWN HOMES, UH, ALL WILL BE FRONT LOADED.

SO FRONT ENTRY GARAGES, UH, 18 OF THE UNITS WILL BE, UH, WHICH IS 30% OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BETWEEN 1,150 SQUARE FEET TO 1,299 SQUARE FEET.

AND 41% OF THE UNITS, WHICH IS 70% OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE 1300 SQUARE FEET OR MORE.

UH, THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE MINIMUM GUEST PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS 12.

THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING.

AND THE TREE MITIGATION FEE TO BE PAID IS $82,800.

HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

UH, THIS IS MOSTLY COMPRISED OF, UH, STUCCO, WHICH IS 73%.

AND THEN WOOD SIDING, UH, ABOUT 23%.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, OF THE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

UH, ONE, THE SITE PLAN MUST MEET ALL UDC AND APPENDIX W REQUIREMENTS.

TWO, THAT THE TOWN HOME UNITS SHALL MEET THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS.

UH, THREE, A MASONRY SCREENING WALL SHALL BE PLACED IN A COMMON LOT TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

UH, ALL PROPOSED PRIVATE STREETS MUST CONFORM TO THE SAME STANDARDS REGULATING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC STREETS.

PRIVATE STREETS SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA SCREENING FENCE CANNOT BE LOCATED WITHIN THE REQUIRED VISIBILITY TRIANGLE, UH, PARKING MUST COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN CRITERIA OUTLINE IN ARTICLE 10.6 OF THE UDC.

AND LASTLY, GATED ENTRY DESIGN AND LOCATION MUST CONFORM TO THE PROVISIONS LISTED IN ARTICLE 25 2 2 4.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU DID VERY WELL IN THE BOARD BRIEFING.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, MA'AM.

UH, JOSH CARR WISHES TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

I CAN SPEAK UPON.

CAN YOU COME UP, SIR? THANK YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

JOSH CARR, SIX 10 EAST PECAN DRIVE, TOMBALL, TEXAS.

UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

IF NOT, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

SO, QUICK QUESTION.

UM, ON THE, UM, ELEVATIONS THAT WE SAW WAS THE BLACK PORTION, WAS THAT THE STUCCO? YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT STUCCO FOR THE BLACK PORTION? YES, MA'AM.

AND ON THE ENDS OF THE BUILDING, WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE? I DON'T RECALL SEEING, SO ON THE ENDS OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A STANDING SCENE KIND OF PROFILE FOR THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN AND FALLS THROUGH.

ALMOST LIKE STANDING SEAM OR LIKE BOARD AND BATTEN.

IT WOULD BE STANDING SEAM, LIKE A METAL STANDING SEAM.

OH, OKAY.

SO LIKE AN ACTUAL, WE'RE TRYING TO ELEVATE THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN.

WE HAVE A NEIGHBORING, UH, PROPERTY LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO US IS DOING A VERY SIMILAR DESIGN.

UHHUH, , UM, SCANDINAVIAN, SAME EXACT CONCEPT, SAME EXACT TOWN HOMES.

BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ELEVATE THE DESIGN.

AND THEN DID YOU NOTICE, UM, IN ALL THAT LONG LIST, IT'S ACTUALLY UP THERE RIGHT NOW UNDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO APPARENTLY, UM, THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE DRAWING OF THE SITE PLAN, NOT HOLDING THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON THE ENDS OF THE BUILDING.

IS THAT AN ISSUE OR? IT'S NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL.

THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE SMALL DISCREPANCY ON THEN.

IT'S JUST REALLY AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITE PLAN.

SO ON TWO OF THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS YOU SEE ON OR TWO BUILDINGS, THERE'S, LOOKS LIKE IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ZEBRA LOT LINE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT THAT WAS REQUESTED FROM THE CITY.

OH.

THAT WE, GRANTED, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK.

IT'S JUST WHAT THE DASH LINE THAT'S BEING MISTAKEN RIGHT NOW FOR THAT IS ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAINTAINING THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK THAT'S REQUESTED.

DO MR, DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAD ONE QUESTION.

I THINK THAT IT'S, UH, I LIKE THE CONTEMPORARY, THE DESIGN, BUT THE COLORED SCHEME, IT JUST SEEMS ALL TO JUST RUN, RUN TOGETHER.

TO ME, THERE'S NOT MUCH VARIATION IN THE, UH, THE FACADE.

THE COLOR SCHEME IS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SOLIDIFIED.

THESE ARE RENDERING, IT'S A HIGH LEVEL.

AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO MAINTAIN WHAT'S IN THE AREA AND TRY TO HELP ELEVATE THAT.

SO, UM, IF THERE, IF IT CAME DOWN TO SIMPLY AS COLORS FOR US, WE WOULD BE VERY OPEN TO MM-HMM .

LOOKING ALTERNATIVES.

SO, SO THE, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE COLOR YOU'RE GONNA USE, THE COLOR SCHEME THAT WE SEE ON THE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THAT COLOR SCHEME? YES, MA'AM.

WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANY COLOR SCHEME AS OF RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN ON ANYTHING.

WE ARE DEFINITELY HAVE OUR OPINIONS JUST FROM MARKET STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE OF WHAT WE THINK WILL SELL WHAT WE THINK IS GONNA HELP INFLUENCE THE AREA AND ELEVATE IT.

BUT

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HAVE YOU USED THIS, UH, DESIGN AT OTHER LOCATIONS OR IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME USING THIS? THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST TIME USING IT IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE DALLAS AREA.

ALTHOUGH, HOWEVER, WE HAVE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A VERY SIMILAR DESIGN.

SAME WITH ENNIS AND A COUPLE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS A VERY, THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC AGES, BETWEEN MID TWENTIES TO MID THIRTIES WHEN NEW FAMILIES, THIS, THIS KIND OF STYLE OF HOME IN THIS DESIGN IS ACTUALLY VERY, VERY PREVALENT.

UM, IT'S COMING UP AND PEOPLE ARE LIKING THAT KIND OF CLEANER, SIMPLER SLATE VERSUS THE STANDARD BRICK MASONRY.

SO MM-HMM .

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, QUICK QUESTION.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, THESE ARE GOING TO BE FOR INDIVIDUAL SALE, IS THAT RIGHT OR NO? FOR RIGHT? YES, THEY'RE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE FOR SALE.

DID YOU SAY RIGHT NOW? YES.

WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING FOR SALE.

THAT'S THE PLAN.

SO OKAY, BUT IT'S NOT FINALIZED OR, OR YOU YEAH, YEAH.

FINE.

THEY'RE FOR SALE.

UM, AND WELL, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

ANYWAY, IT'S ALL GOOD.

THANKS COMMISSIONER FKO.

SO DOES SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN MEAN THE FRONT LOOKS THE SAME FOR EVERY UNIT? THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN'S KIND THAT MORE SIMPLER LOOK, DO YOU SEE WITH THE, IF YOU WON'T PULL HIS RENDERINGS UP, I MEAN THE ONES THAT ABDUL SHOWED.

UM, YEAH.

AND THAT THE SCANDINAVIAN DESIGN IS KIND OF THAT MORE NATURAL WOOD LOOK, THE MORE NATURAL STONES AND THE SIMPLE KIND OF SIMPLICITY TO IT, KIND OF THE MATCHING PITCHES AND ALL THAT SINGLE PITCHES.

QUICK QUESTION.

HI JOSH, HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GREAT, THANKS.

SO ON THE, THE LOWER LEVEL, YOU'RE WALKING IN FROM THE GARAGE TO THE SIDE, I'M ASSUMING, AND THEN THERE'S A STAIRWAY GOING UP.

AND SO ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AM I WALKING UP INTO THE LIVING AREA? YOU'RE WALKING UP THE LIVING AREAS? YES, MA'AM.

AND BEDROOMS ON THE THIRD FLOOR? YES, MA'AM.

AND, UM, OVERALL, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE ELSE HAVE YOU BUILT? ARE YOU NEW TO GRAND PRAIRIE OR IS THIS WE, I HEARD YOU MENTION ENNI.

SO THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY NEW COMPANY, AS IN, WE'RE FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD AS A WHOLE.

WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSTON.

WE'RE HOUSTON BASED, BUT WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR OFFICE HERE IN DALLAS.

UM, MY BACKGROUND COMES BACK FROM CALDWELL COMPANIES, WHO'S A LARGE DEVELOPER IN THE TEXAS AREA.

WE DID MASSIVE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE SUCH AS TOWN LAKE DOWN IN HOUSTON.

SO THAT'S MY BACKGROUND.

SO WE'VE DONE MANY, MANY, MANY PROJECTS, BUT AS A BLUE KITE FOR THE DALLAS REGION, THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST, BUT WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY THREE OTHER PRO OR PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT OR 200 NEGOTIATION, ONE UNDER CONTRACT THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME EXACT DEVELOPMENT ON.

WHAT IS THE COST PER UNIT SORTA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? SO WE'RE TARGETING ABOUT $650,000.

6, 600, 600 $50,000 PER UNIT.

SO IS THAT THE PRETTY WHAT, COMPARABLE TO THE UNIT NEXT TO YOU? CORRECT.

SO THE UNITS NEXT TO US, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SELLING.

THEY HAVE 'EM LISTED FOR SIX, SEVEN, OR $670,000.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO COME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDERNEATH THAT, BUT BY ELEVATING AND BRINGING IN A NICER DESIGN.

ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE AVERAGE UNIT? OR ARE THEY ALL THE SAME SIZE THERE? THERE'S DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS ON MM-HMM .

A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT UNITS, BUT WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.

SO THE COST FACTOR IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT THEN, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAD ONE AT 1200.

UH, IS THAT THE, THAT THE, THAT THE LOWEST IF YOU, THEY'RE A LITTLE LARGER THAN THAT.

I THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS TAKEN IN.

I THINK THAT HAD, LIKE, WE'RE TAKING ACCOUNT, THE GARAGE AND LIVING AND ALL THAT.

UM, I CAN GET YOU ALL EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGES.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE HOA OF COURSE, CORRECT? HOA.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE GATED, IS THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GATED.

NO, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER ? I THOUGHT IT WAS GATED TOO.

IS IT NOT GATED AS OF RIGHT NOW? NO.

WE HAD, WE HAD TO REMOVE THE GATE FROM IT.

BUT YOU'RE GOOD WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT CURRENTLY SPEAKING RIGHT NOW, THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON THAT CONDITIONS FORM, THEY ALL CURRENTLY MEET THE MOST UPTODATE SITE PLAN.

AND SO THERE WAS THE ONE DISCREPANCY WITH THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE, WE SHOWED AN EASEMENT LINE THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE CITY TO HAVE AN EASEMENT ALONG THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THERE'S A DASH LINE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE.

BUT CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT THOUGH, SAYS GATED ENTRY DESIGN AND LOCATION MUST CONFORM TO PROVISIONS LISTED IN A PARTICULAR ARTICLE.

CORRECT.

WHICH IS THE MASONRY WALL THAT THEY REQUESTED TO HAVE ON THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY COMMISSION.

FEDORKO, IF I, IF I MAY.

THE CURRENT SITE PLAN DOES SHOW, UH, A GATE.

THEY ADDED THE GATE BACK WITH, WITH THE MASONRY WALL.

WITH THE MASONRY WALL.

AGREEING.

YES SIR.

WANNA ASK RASH? NO, I WANNA SAY, ARE THERE ANY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO FURTHER CARDS? OH, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS.

APPRECIATE MR. CARR, CAN YOU FINISH FILLING OUT YOUR ADDRESS ON HERE? CITY? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND BRIEFING.

SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, GO AHEAD.

YOU

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I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE GOOD ON THIS ONE? EVERYBODY GOOD? COMMISSIONER ERCO, THIS IS YOUR, IT IS MY DISTRICT.

I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE BRINGING TOWN HOMES.

THE 650,000 PRICE TAG IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE IN A WAY.

I DON'T KNOW FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT, UM, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE.

HOWEVER, ALL OF THE DRC CONDITIONS, UH, ARE PART OF OUR APPROVAL.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT THAT WAY.

A SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM TWO TP 2 4 0 2 0 0 1 1 BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FKO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

[3. STP-24-07-0033 - Site Plan - BJs Wholesale Club (City Council District 2). Site Plan for a 104,759 sq. ft. membership-only retail store with eight fuel pumps on 12.28 acres. Lot 2, Block 1, Mayfield Road Retail Addition 1, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD456, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 965 Mayfield Dr]

CASE PLEASE.

ITEM THREE IS, UH, ANOTHER SITE PLAN FOR BJ'S WHOLESALE CLUB.

THIS IS STP 24 0 703 3.

UH, THIS IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO IKEA, EAST OF IKEA.

UH, THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 9 65 MAYFIELD DRIVE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PD 4, 5, 6, AND ALLOCATED ON 12.28 ACRES.

UM, HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.

SO IT'S GONNA BE ONE 104,759 SQUARE FOOT MEMBERSHIP ONLY RETAIL STORE, UH, WITH EIGHT FUEL PUMPS.

AND FOR THE RECORD, IT'S THE FUEL PUMPS ARE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE SITE PLAN.

THERE WOULD BE, UH, AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

THIS WAS, UH, A CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, WHENEVER THE PD CAME THROUGH.

SO THAT MASONRY SCREENING WALL IS HIGHLIGHTED, UH, ON THE SITE PLAN IN RED.

AND, UH, 15% OF THE TOTAL PARKING WILL BE PERMEABLE PAVING.

THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.

HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, MOSTLY COMPRISING OF CONCRETE WALL PANELS, UH, EFIS AND, UH, SOME BREAK.

THIS WAS ALSO APPROVED AT THE CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING PORTION, UH, OF THE ITEM LAST TIME.

UH, APPENDIX F MANY ITEMS, UH, THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM, UH, 12 ITEMS AND ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS.

AS MENTIONED, UH, DURING THE BRIEFING, THEY HAVE, UH, RECTIFIED AND UPDATED THEIR SITE PLAN AND ARE COMPLYING WITH ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMONS.

SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY CONCERNS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SO IS THE SIGNAGE, LIKE THE, UM, ANY MONUMENT SIGN? IS THAT PART OF THIS PACKAGE? NO, IT'S NOT.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ABDUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ONE? NO, MA'AM.

NO SPEAKER CARDS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE APPLICANT FROM BJ'S.

I WAS GONNA ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THEY MIGHT SPEAK FILLED OUT A SPEAKER.

CAN I, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME.

CAN YOU COME UP FOR A MINUTE PLEASE, SIR? Y'ALL, WE WERE GETTING EXCITED.

WE NEED TO HEAR A LITTLE SOMETHING.

COULD YOU COME UP, SIR? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? UH, YES, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S MARK LAVOY.

I'M A SITE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR BJ'S WHOLESALE CLUB.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

AND I WANT YOU TO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BJ'S.

'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT BJ'S.

SO, BJ'S IS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO SAM'S CLUB IN COSTCO, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE TWO RETAILERS.

UM, WE'RE A WHOLESALE MEMBERSHIP CLUB.

WE SELL MEMBERSHIPS, UM, A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE, UH, OUR COMPETITION.

UH, WE OFFER, UH, DISCOUNTED GAS AS A, AS A, UM, PERK FOR OUR MEMBERS.

WE OFFER, UM, PROPANE REFILL STATION AND, UM, TIRES.

SO WE SELL NEW TIRES.

UM, OUR TIRE CENTER ONLY, UM, INSTALL, SELL, AND INSTALLS NEW TIRES.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY DO.

WE DON'T CHANGE OIL, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, WE ALSO OFFER, UH, GROCERIES.

WE HAVE FROZEN SECTIONS.

WE HAVE GENERAL MERCHANDISE, UM, AND ALL THAT ROUGHLY, UM, A DISCOUNTED PRICE FROM WHAT YOU'D SEE AT OTHER RETAILERS.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

HOW MANY MORE DO YOU HAVE IN THE AREA? IS THIS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE? THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST.

WE'VE MADE APPLICATIONS IN SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, IN THE DFW MARKET.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING IN.

UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA COME IN JUST BUILD ONE STORE.

IT'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE.

SO YOUR MARKETING SURVEYS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND AND BEAT THE COMPETITION? CORRECT.

VERY CONFIDENT.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUE COMMISSIONER? HI MARK.

HOW ARE YOU? MM-HMM .

GOOD.

UM, I PERSONALLY LOVE BJ'S, SO LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT FLEMINGTON NEW JERSEY I NORMALLY GO AND IT'S MY PASS THROUGH.

YOUR BAKED GOODS ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

SO I AM SO STOKED, UH, THAT YOU ARE HERE.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

LUCKY.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO ECHO ALSO, MARK, WHEN I'M IN ATLANTA WHERE MY DAUGHTER LIVES, I FREE FREQUENTLY SHOPS AT

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BJ'S.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR BUSINESS TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

GREAT.

VERY GOOD.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I BELIEVE THIS, UH, FALLS INTO, UH, DISTRICT TWO FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION MM-HMM .

UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM STP 2 4 0 7 0 0 3 3 SITE PLAN FOR BJ'S WHOLESALE CLUB AND APPROVE.

UM, AND THERE ARE NO DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT APPROVE, APPROVE AS APPROVE AS IS I.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM THREE BY COMMISSIONER MICHELLE MADDEN AND IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TY CHAPMAN.

UH, AS, AS READ, I GUESS.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING.

GOOD

[4. STP-24-09-0037 - Site Plan - 2000 Pine St (City Council District 5). Site Plan to construct a new sanctuary for an existing church on 0.976 acres. Tracts 3 and 38, Joseph Graham Survey, Abstract No. 506, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Two Family Residential, and addressed as 2000 & 2002 Pine Street]

EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN REQUEST.

SO IT'S AN EXISTING CHURCH.

THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW SANCTUARY.

SO LOCATED AT 2000 2002 PINE STREET.

IT IS ZONED TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S ON 0.976 ACRES.

SO AGAIN, THAT SMALLER BUILDING IS THE EXISTING 2000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, BUILDING.

AND IN THAT BUILDING FAR TO THE RIGHT IS THEIR PROPOSED 4,500 SQUARE FOOT SANCTUARY.

SO IT IS MEETING OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

AND AGAIN, A PARKING, UH, EXCEPTION WAS GRANTED PER DRC.

SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY PER THE UDC TO GRANT UP TO 15% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING.

AND AGAIN, WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.

'CAUSE THE VARIANCE IS ONLY FOR TWO PARKING SPACES, WHICH AGAIN, IS THE TWO THAT WERE TRIGGERED BY THAT EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE USED FOR STORAGE MOVING FORWARD.

SO IT IS MEETING MOST OF OUR LANDSCAPE AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

THERE IS A REQUESTED VARIANCE, WHICH I WILL TOUCH ON IN JUST A MOMENT.

SO THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S MAINLY A METAL BUILDING.

THERE ARE A FEW STUCCO ACCENTS AND GLAZING, BUT AGAIN, MAINLY METAL.

SO AGAIN, THE VARIANCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS FOR STREET TREES.

SO, UH, ARTICLE EIGHT DOES REQUIRE STREET TREES, A MAXIMUM OF 50 LINEAR FEET APART, ALONG COLLECTOR ROADS.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE THAT EXISTING BUILDING.

AND WE ARE REQUIRING A 15 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT.

THEY'RE REALLY STRUGGLING GETTING TREES ON THAT EASTERN PORTION.

SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM 50 FEET TO 162 FEET, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY JUST THAT EASTERN PORTION OF THE LOT YOU CAN SEE THERE.

THAT BEING SAID, DRC HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCES, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO MEET THAT STREET TREE REQUIREMENT, AND WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB IN THE BRIEFING.

, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I DON'T HAVE A CARD, BUT THEY MIGHT BE HERE.

IS APPLICANT HERE? APPLICANT'S NOT HERE.

AND WE HAVE NO CARDS.

WELL, BRITTANY, CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION THEN? I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE NEED FOR THE NEW BUILD.

IS THAT, IS THE OLD, THE CHURCH IS JUST AN OLDER BUILDING AND THEY JUST, JUST HAD THE RESTART OR SO, AND I DON'T HAVE THE STREET VIEW, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE.

AND SO IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S AN OLDER CHURCH AND SO THEY JUST, THEY NEED A NEW SANCTUARY, SO IT'S GONNA SEAT UP TO 198 PEOPLE MM-HMM .

SO IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA ALLOW THAT CHURCH TO EXPAND.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, BRITTANY.

UH, THIS IS, UM, JANIE, ARI'S AREA.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS FIRST? ANYBODY? EVERYBODY GOOD ON THIS ONE? NO.

WE, I MEAN, THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTS OPPOSING THIS, RIGHT? NO.

RESIDENT RESIDENTS OPPOSED? IT GOT NO LETTER.

WE DON'T SEND OUT LETTERS FOR SITE PLANS, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO POST SIGNS AND WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING OPPOSED OR, OR IN FAVOR.

WELL, MADAM CHAIR, OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM STP 2 4 0 9 0 0 3 7.

SECOND.

I SECOND THAT.

PER, PER STAFF VARIANCES AND YEAH, AS PER SE, AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATION AND PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE COMMISSIONER, UH, JANIE ARI APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FRANK GONZALEZ.

NEXT CASE IS, UH, ITEM FIVE SUP 24 0 9 0 0 3 8 FOR ZOOM PERFORMANCE AND BODY SHOP.

NEXT CASE.

[5. SUP-24-09-0038 - Specific Use Permit - Zoom Performance & Body Shop (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit for Auto Body & Paint Shop at 2100 E Main Lot 2, Block 2, Business Center Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-60, and addressed as 2100 E Main St]

UH, THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 2100 EAST MAIN STREET AND THIS IS TO ALLOW AUTOBODY AND LEMME COME BACK.

THIS IS TO ALLOW AUTOBODY AND PAINT SHOP, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE BRIEFING, THIS CASE CAME BEFORE YOU.

UH, SO THIS CASE CAME BEFORE YOU, UH, BACK IN, UH, JUNE.

YEAH, JUNE OF, UH, THIS YEAR AND WAS APPROVED.

UH, INITIALLY THEY WERE REQUESTING THREE SEPARATE LAND USES, AND, AND AT THIS TIME

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THEY'VE REVISED THAT REQUEST TO JUST ONE USE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AUTO BODY AND PAINT.

UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THEIR, UM, PARKING FROM 11 REQUIRED SPACES TO EIGHT SPACES, UH, WHICH THIS IS, UH, APPOINTMENT ONLY.

SO WE ARE OKAY, UH, TO ISSUE THAT VARIANCE.

UH, WITH THE OPERATIONAL PLAN, THE BUSINESS HOURS ARE MONDAY TO FRIDAY, 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AS MENTIONED BEFORE, APPOINTMENT ONLY.

AND THE SERVICES OFFERED WILL BE PAINT AND BODY RESTORATION.

AND IT'S GEARED TOWARDS A MAZDA MIATAS.

THE ONE SPECIFIC CAR PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT FOR THIS ITEM, UH, TO 20 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

UH, WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION AND ONE IN SUPPORT.

AND DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE BUSINESS SHALL BE OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE, FEDERAL, AND LOCAL LAWS.

UH, TWO BUSINESS SHALL BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND AUTO RELATED BUSINESS PERMIT.

AND LASTLY, ALL BUSINESS OPERATIONS MUST BE CONDUCTED.

INDOORS, STORING OR PARKING OF DAMAGED VEHICLES OUTDOORS IS PROHIBITED.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? ABDUL? COMMISSIONER ARI? YEAH.

WHAT WAS THE ONE PERSON WHO DID NOT OPPOSE TO IT? WHAT, I GUESS WHAT WAS THEIR STANCE? DID THEY SAY? UH, IT, IT'S ON PAGE 46 OF THE PACKET.

AND, UH, I THINK IT MENTIONED THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO, UH, TAKE IN THE FUMES OF THE PAINT, IS WHAT THEIR COMMENT IS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE VENTILATION AND FORCE TO GET BUILDING PERMITS, UH, TO, TO COME IN COMPLIANCE AND GET A CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE IN.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

CO COMMISSIONER.

ERCO.

SO NOT TO PARSE HAIRS HERE, BUT ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE, IT SAYS STORING OR PARKING DAMAGE VEHICLES OUTDOORS IS PROHIBITED.

SO I'M ASSUMING THEY, MAYBE THEY HAVE THREE BAYS THERE, RIGHT? AS AN EXAMPLE MM-HMM .

IF THEY'RE ALL FULL OF CARS AND THEN CUSTOMER NUMBER FOUR PULLS UP, DO THEY HAVE TO SEND HIM AWAY UNTIL ONE OF THOSE BAYS GETS OPENED? SO THEY HAVE TWO BAYS CURRENTLY.

TWO BAYS.

AND IT IS APPOINTMENT ONLY, BUT I CAN DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.

THEY'RE HERE.

I WOULD THEY TURN IT THE APPLICANT AWAY, UH, OR THE CUSTOMER AWAY, BUT THEY CANNOT HAVE A CUSTOMER ON THE PROPERTY AND LEAVE THE VEHICLE OUTSIDE.

PER CONDITION.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT'S THE KEY WORD, IS DAMAGED.

SO IF THEY BRING IN THE VEHICLE AND IT'S GONNA NEED REPAIR, BUT IT'S NOT IN DISREP DISREPAIR AND NOT RUNNING, I THINK ASSUMING HE BRINGS A DAMAGED ONE IN, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS FOR APPOINTMENT ONLY.

THAT PART I MISSED.

BUT IF YOU JUST DID A DRIVE UP AND THE TWO BAYS WERE OCCUPIED AND THE GUY SAYS, MY BROTHER GAVE ME A RIDE DOWN HERE, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE CAR HERE.

THE WAY I READ THIS, HE CAN'T DO THAT.

RIGHT? UNTIL THOSE TWO BAY, ONE OF THOSE TWO BAYS GETS CLEARED UP.

I THINK THEY HAVE SOME ROOM INSIDE THE STRUCTURE.

THERE'S TWO BAYS, BUT IT'S SOME DEPTH.

BUT I'LL LET THE, I'LL THEM ADJUST.

THANK YOU, RASHAD.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

AB THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSION.

THAT IS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

THE APPLICANT'S PR PRESENT.

MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ IS WANTING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM IF NEEDED.

CAN YOU COME UP? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

UH, MY NAME IS MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ.

CAN YOU WAIT TO GET TO THE CLOSE MIC? I'M SO SORRY.

MY NAME IS MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ.

MY ADDRESS IS 44 53 PRESTON CIRCLE, DALLAS.

UH, 7 5 2 11.

AND, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER, THANKS FOR COMING, SIR.

SO I, I HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR BUSINESS HERE.

BUT I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, LIKE, YOU HAVE TWO BAYS.

LET'S SAY THEY'RE THERE, THEY'VE GOT CARS, THEY NEED THREE MORE DAYS, THREE MORE WORK DAYS TO FINISH UP.

IS YOUR BUSINESS APPOINTMENT ONLY OR IT'S APPOINTMENT ONLY? UH, WE DON'T, YEAH, WE WORK BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

UM, AND IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO STORE A CAR, WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE, IT'S ABOUT 55, I THINK 5,000 SQUARE IF WE NEED IT INSIDE THE, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY BIG AREA AND THE CARS THAT WE WORK ON ARE PRETTY SMALL.

UH, BUT IT'S BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU PROBABLY MUST RUN A VERY GOOD BUSINESS IF IT'S BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

YES, I'M HAPPY TO SAY YES.

IS THIS YOUR, THIS, THIS YOUR ONLY LOCATION? UM, I'M COMING FROM DALLAS, SO I ONLY HAVE ONE LOCATION.

YOU MUST DO VERY GOOD WORK.

I TRY MY BEST.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU FOR BEING, I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER GO AHEAD QUESTION.

I MEAN, AND YOU'VE TALKED WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH, I HAVE, I HAVE LETTERS FROM ALL THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS.

ACROSS OR SOUTH

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OF ME.

UM, ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY SENDS A SALES BODY AND PAINT SUPPLIES, SO IT'S KIND OF CONVENIENT FOR BOTH OF US.

AND, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, ON AT 2000 MAIN, THEY SELL BODY PARTS, SO IT'S MM-HMM .

BUT THE ONE THAT WAS OPPOSING IT'S THEM.

OH, IT WAS ? YEAH.

WE ACTUALLY BUY PARTS FROM THEM, BUT YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA WORK OUT WELL.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SO I KNOW THAT HIS COMPLAINT WAS ABOUT PAINT FUMES.

CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ON YOUR EXHAUST? WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A CERTIFIED PAIN BOOTH, UH, WITH THE APPROPRIATE VENTILATION SYSTEM.

UM, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT NO, NONE OF THOSE FUMES, YOU KNOW, ARE VENTED TO ATMOSPHERE.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? UH, COMMISSIONER MEDINA? UM, YEAH, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHY SPECIFICALLY MAZDA MIATAS? I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS THAT MUCH .

THAT'S WHAT I USED, THAT'S WHAT I USED TO THINK.

UM, I STARTED WORKING THEM BACK IN TWO, UH, 2015 AT A SHOP WHERE THEY DID NOTHING BUT MIATAS.

AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT.

AND, UH, THEY DID GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

UH, THEY DON'T DO SERVICE ANYMORE.

AND, UH, BACK IN 2018 THEY STOPPED DOING BUSINESS.

SO I STARTED MY OWN BUSINESS AND I, IT, YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIG MARKET FOR MAZA MIATAS.

UH, THEY'RE CHEAP AND THEY RACE.

YEAH, THEY'RE CHEAPER CARS.

UM, WE TAKE 'EM TO, TO TRACKS.

THERE'S TRACKS OUT IN, THERE'S ONE OUT IN DECATUR AND THERE'S ONE IN CRESCENT AND OUR CUSTOMERS TAKE THEM OUT THERE.

THEY RACE THEM.

THEY, SO, YEAH.

THEY'RE CHEAP LITTLE CARS THAT CAN BE SOUPED UP.

PRETTY MUCH SOUPED UP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.

I'M GETTING A LESSON HERE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? WE HAVE ONE MORE CARD IN CASE HE WANTS TO SPEAK.

UH, ZA HUSSEIN WANTS TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM IF NEEDED.

HE SAID Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK WE'VE, WE GOT IT NOW.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER ARI, IS THIS IS YOUR AREA, MADAM CHAIR? IT IS.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM SUP 2 4 0 9 0 0 3 8 AS PER D AS PER DRCS RECOMMENDATIONS.

I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE BY COMMISSIONER ARI AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE.

PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.

NEXT CASE.

[6. SUP-24-09-0037 – Specific Use Permit/Site Plan – Tru by Hilton (City Council District 4). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a four-story hotel featuring a pool and associated parking on 2.209 acres. Tract 1U, Memucan Hunt Survey, Abstract No. 757, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-30, within the HI 20 Corridor Overlay District, and generally located on the southeast corner of S Great Southwest Pkwy and W Bardin Rd and tentatively addressed as 4115 S Great Southwest Pkwy]

SIX.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THIS AREA'S ALREADY AT THEIR LIMIT.

HOLD ON.

TOUCH, TOUCH THE CORD COURT.

YEAH, DO THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU.

SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, AN SUP SITE PLAN FOR A MIDSCALE HOTEL LOCATED AT 4 1 1 15.

SO GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE I 20 QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICT ZONE PD 30 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL ON 2.209 ACRES.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY CARVING OUT THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE OF THIS LOT.

I THINK SO.

AND THE REST WILL BE UNDEVELOPED FOR NOW.

SO IT IS A MISS HOTEL WITH 98 ROOMS. IT IS MEETING MOST OF THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

DOES REQUIRE THAT HEIGHT VARIANCE, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN A LITTLE BIT.

AND IT IS MEETING OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, PARKING ACTS AS MAXIMUMS AND APPENDIX F, NOT MINIMUM.

AND THEY'RE JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT MAXIMUM.

SO THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPE AND SCREENING REQUIREMENT.

AGAIN, THAT PROPERTY TO THE WEST WENT THROUGH AN SUP SITE PLAN AND APPROVAL PROCESS IN 23.

COUNSEL DID APPROVE IT, BUT THEY DID REQUIRE THAT EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL.

AND THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY IS ALSO GONNA PROVIDE THAT EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL TO MATCH WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED OUT THERE.

SO THESE ARE THEIR BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO THE WEST, THE EAST, THE SOUTH, AND THE NORTH.

AND AGAIN, THAT SOUTHERN ELEVATION IS THE ELEVATION THAT'S GOING TO BE FACING THAT RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

SO ARTICLE FOUR OF THE UDC DOES HAVE A HOTEL PROXIMITY LIMIT.

SO IT'S GO, IT'S UM, DETERMINED BY THEIR CHA THEIR CHAIN SCALE RATING.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A MID-SCALE HOTEL AND ALL THE UPPER MID-SCALE AND MID-SCALE HOTELS ARE LIMITED TO FOUR WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS.

SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP HERE, THESE TWO ORANGE ONES RIGHT HERE ARE CONSIDERED MIDSCALE AND THESE TWO BLUE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT THOSE ARE TWO HOTELS ARE CONSIDERED UPPER MIDSCALE.

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SO THIS WOULD PUT THEM ABOVE THAT AT FIVE.

AND SO IT IS REQUIRING A VARIANCE FOR THE PROXIMITY LIMITATIONS IN ARTICLE FOUR.

SO HOTELS, ALL HOTELS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TIER ALL THE TIER ONE AMENITIES LISTED IN ARTICLE FOUR.

THEY ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE AGAIN FOR THAT POOL.

SO ARTICLE FOUR REQUIRES 3000 SQUARE FOOT POOL SURFACE AREA.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF 300 FEET.

UM, MID-SCALE HOTELS ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ONE TIER TWO AMENITY.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDED FOUR AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT PORTION OF THE SCREEN IS JUST A ZOOMED IN OF THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN, SHOWING SOME OF THE AMENITIES, IN PARTICULAR THE OUTDOOR PARK OR LANDSCAPE COMMON AREA.

SO THEY DO HAVE SOME GAMES AND STUFF OUT THERE, CORNHOLE SOME KIND OF GAME BOARD, SOME SEEDING.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS IN THAT CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.

SO IT DOES REQUIRE OUR APPENDIX STAFF CHECKLIST.

12 MENU ITEMS ARE REQUIRED AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 12 MENU ITEMS. SO THEY ARE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO THIS IS THE LIST OF VARIANCES REQUIRED.

SO FIRST, AGAIN, THAT POOL SIZE, WE NORMALLY REQUIRE 3000 SQUARE FOOT OF A WATER SERVICE AREA.

THE REQUESTING REDUCE THAT TO 300 SQUARE FEET.

SO FOR THE ACCENT MATERIALS, WE DO ALLOW UP TO 10% OF ACCENT MATERIALS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, NORMALLY REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY, BUT THERE IS SOME LEEWAY FOR THE ACCENT MATERIALS.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF WHAT IS APPROVED AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS HIGH PRESSURE LAMINATE, WHICH STAFF DID NOT FEEL MET THAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR ACCENT MATERIALS.

SO THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THEY WERE USING.

UM, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN APPENDIX F REGARDING GLAZING.

SO WE REQUIRE THAT AT LEAST 50% OF THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING OF ALL FOUR FACADES BE GLAZING.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 31.8%.

WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR CANOPIES FOR THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR FACADES OF FACADES.

OF CANOPIES, 25%.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT TO 19.4%.

AS I STATED EARLIER, THEY ARE REQUESTING A HEIGHT VARIANCE.

SO COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS CAPPED AT 25 FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR 52.7 FEET.

AS YOU'VE SEEN, THIS IS A FOUR STORY HOTEL BEING PROPOSED.

AND AGAIN, THAT LAST VARIANCE IS THE MID-SCALE, UPPER MID-SCALE CONCENTRATION LIMITATION IN ARTICLE FOUR.

SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO ABOVE THAT FOUR TO LIMIT OF FOUR UP TO FIVE.

SO 57 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR.

EIGHT WERE RETURN TO OPPOSED.

AND AGAIN, WHAT WE SAW, YOU KNOW, IS CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

THERE WAS SOMEONE WITH CONCERNED OF FLOODING, UM, JUST CONCERNED ON THE STRESS OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN AT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING DUE TO THEY, THEY'RE FEARFUL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME OF THEIR PRIVACY IN THEIR BACKYARDS.

SO STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE UDC CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENTS FOR HOTELS.

HOWEVER, SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

SO THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE DETENTION OR PROVIDE A DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT STUDY TO PROVE NO NEGATIVE IMPACT BY NOT PROVIDING DETENTION.

AND THEN THE PROPOSAL SHALL MEET ALL APPENDIX F DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCENT MATERIALS.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRITTANY? I HAVE A QUESTION.

COMMISSION FOR .

SO IF WE DID APPROVE IT, WHAT THE APPENDIX F, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THIS HIGH PRESSURE LAMINATE STUFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MEDINA.

IS THAT JUST BECAUSE, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN OTHER HILTON TRUE HOTELS, THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC FACADE THAT FACES OUT MM-HMM .

IT'S A BRAND THING.

STAFF DIDN'T ME, DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT MET THE SPIRIT OF WHAT APPENDIX F REQUIRES, EVEN FOR ACCIDENT MATERIALS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP UP TO THE COMMISSION IF Y'ALL FEEL LIKE, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO APPROVE UNDERSTANDING IT IS PART OF THEIR STATE.

SO I'M GUESSING APPENDIX F DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIGH PRESSURE LAMINATE? NO, IT DOESN'T.

MATERIAL COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO IN THIS AREA THERE'S A LIMIT OF FOUR MID-SCALE HOTELS CURRENTLY, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

CAN, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW MANY HOTELS THERE ARE IN TOTAL THOUGH, IN THE ONE MILE, UH, RADIUS? YES.

SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO, UPPER MID-SCALE, TWO, MID-SCALE, TWO ECONOMY INDEPENDENT.

THOSE ARE THE GREEN.

THERE'S ONE UPSCALE.

IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET, BUT IT WAS APPROVED AND SUP WAS APPROVED OVER HERE.

UM, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT, BUT THERE ARE SIX EXISTING HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE AND THEN SEVENTH THAT WAS APPROVED.

BUT AGAIN, THE FOUR THAT ARE TRIGGERING THAT VARIANCE FOR THE DISTANCE IS THE TWO UPPER SMITH SCALE AND THE TWO MID SCALE.

GOOD QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER ERCO.

YEAH, I'M SORRY, BRITTANY, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE? THE VERY FIRST ONE? YEAH.

THE ONE THAT HAS A TERRAIN MAP THERE.

THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT THIS WAY.

WHERE ARE PEOPLE? THEY'RE COMING IN FROM BARDON OR FROM GRAY SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

UM, SO MAINLY FROM, SO GREAT SOUTHWEST.

SO THIS HERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT'S KIND OF BEEN AGREED UPON IN THIS OVERALL AREA.

SO THIS HERE WILL BE ONE AREA OF INGRESS AND THIS ONE OVER HERE, AND THERE'LL BE ONE DOWN HERE AS WELL.

SO NO ACCESS TO BARDEN.

SO YOU CAN GO TO BARDEN IF YOU CUT

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BUT ALL, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRITTANY? AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE? PROBABLY THE APPLICANT IS HERE? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SPEAKER CARTS? UM, I DO HAVE CARTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO THE APPLICANT IS.

DID YOU ALL FILL OUT A CARD? I DID.

ARE YOU MR. CROWLEY? UH, ALL DAY TODAY.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

CARL CROWLEY.

WOO .

I USUALLY DON'T NEED THAT, BUT MM-HMM .

UH, CARL CROWLEY 2201 MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, REPRESENTING THE, UH, APPLICANT IN THIS REQUEST.

UM, THIS ARROW OR UP? YOU HIT THE SPACE BAR.

SPACE BAR.

UM, JUST COVER SLIDE.

UH, SO, UM, AS BRITTANY SAID, IT'S A HILTON HOTEL.

UM, IT'S UPSCALE MODERN GUEST ROOMS, 198 ROOMS, UH, 25 TO 30 EMPLOYEES, A FITNESS CENTER.

UM, AND SHE MENTIONED THE LOUNGE AND OUTDOOR GAME AREA.

UM, AND THERE'S THE PICTURE OF IT.

IT'S UM, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UM, A VIRTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

I SENT LETTERS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 400 FEET OF US REALLY IS JUST TO THE SOUTH.

THE THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE.

WE SENT THEM LETTERS, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND.

UM, BUT, UH, THE CONCERN, ONE OF THE CONCERNS OBVIOUSLY WAS PRIVACY AND THINGS.

AND AT ONE POINT THIS, UH, DESIGN, AND I'LL GO TO THE SITE PLAN WAS TURN 90 DEGREES, SHALL WE SAY.

SO THEN YOU'D HAVE WINDOWS FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I SAID, THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, GUYS DON'T GO THERE.

SO THEY FLIPPED IT AROUND THE OTHER DIRECTION AND, AND BRITTANY SHOWED YOU THE ELEVATIONS AND I'VE GOT 'EM.

THOSE FOUR WINDOWS ARE AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY.

THEY'RE OPAQUE.

THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH TRYING TO GET SOME LIGHT INTO THAT HALLWAY.

YOU CAN'T SEE IN OR OUT THEM.

SO NO, NO.

ROOMS WILL FACE THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.

THEY'RE ALL FACED EAST AND WEST.

UM, BECAUSE I JUST, THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE A STARTER.

THAT PARKING A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

ESPECIALLY AT A FOUR STORY, TWO STORY FURTHER AWAY MAYBE, BUT, BUT NOT AS A FOUR STORY.

SO THERE'S THE, UH, IT'S A STANDARD SORT OF SET OF GAMES AND OUTDOOR STUFF.

UM, THIS OUTDOOR AR AREA IS ONLY OPEN BETWEEN NINE AND NINE.

NINE IN THE MORNING AT NIGHT, AT NIGHT.

SO WE DON'T, AND, AND IT'S SET FURTHER TO THE NORTH AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STUFF.

'CAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A NOISE CONCERN TOO.

UH, INDOOR AREA, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UM, CLIENTELE ARE DURING THE WEEK.

IT'S A BUSINESS, UH, ORIENTED.

BUT THERE ARE WEEKEND, UH, WE SEE A LOT OF, UM, FAMILIES THAT COME FOR TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE HOLIDAYS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THE MAJORITY IS, IS, UH, BUSINESS TRAVELERS DURING THE WEEK.

UM, I I TALK TO THE, UH, OPERATOR TODAY.

UM, AND IT'S, I'VE BEEN DOING HOTELS OFF AND ON FOR, WELL A LONG TIME.

LET'S JUST LEAVE IT THAT WAY.

, UM, THE, THE SWEET SPOT, IF THERE WAS A SWEET SPOT, IF THERE IS A SWEET SPOT ACTUALLY FOR A HOTEL OCCUPANCY, IS THAT 60 TO 70% RANGE? YOU'D THINK YOU'D WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT? BUT THE PROBLEM WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT IS NOW I'M TURNING OVER EVERY ROOM AND USING EVERY ROOM EVERY DAY.

AND THAT PUTS A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON THAT.

AND THAT ALSO MEANS YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT CHARGING ENOUGH FOR YOUR ROOMS BECAUSE THEY'RE FILLING IT UP AND I'M ALSO HAVING MORE EMPLOYEES TO DO IT.

UM, IF YOU HAVE 50% OR BELOW 60%, I'M PROBABLY CHARGING TOO MUCH AND THEN I'M WASTING THAT SPACE.

I'M NOT TURNING IT OVER GOOD ENOUGH.

SO YOU'LL SEE A INDUSTRY AND STANDARD AND ALSO A DFW STANDARD.

IS THAT 60%, 70%? OBVIOUSLY TEXAS OU WEEKEND IN DALLAS, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT THE WORLD CUP, IT'LL PROBABLY GET UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT IN SOME OF THOSE, BUT THE, THE AVERAGE IS AT 60 TO 70% OCCUPANCY RATE.

I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER THIS.

THIS WAS IN THE PACKET WE GAVE.

IT'S JUST TAX REVENUE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT Y'ALL ARE HERE FOR.

Y'ALL ARE HERE FOR LAND USE.

SO I'M JUST GONNA WHIP RIGHT THROUGH IT.

AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, 25 TO 30 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

UM, TRUE BY HILTON, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A FRANCHISE.

THEY DO ANNUAL REVIEWS, UM, TO MAKE SURE YOU, THE FRANCHISE HOLDER IS WORTHY OF HOLDING THAT FRANCHISE.

THEY WILL YANK IT IF YOU'RE NOT.

UM, THEY ALSO DO BASE IT ON SURVEYS AND THINGS.

IF THEY'RE STARTING TO GET NEGATIVE COMMENTS, THEY'LL COME OUT AND DO SPOT REVIEWS OR SORT OF UM, UH, I GUESS A SECRET SHOPPER I'LL USE, WELL THAT DATES ME PROBABLY, BUT SECRET SHOPPER TYPE OF REVIEWS.

UH, THE SITE PLAN.

UM, SORRY ABOUT THE SMALL SCALE OF IT.

ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU SEE THE GREEN SPACE, THAT'S WHERE THE GAMES AND THE OUTDOOR STUFF IS.

UH, WHEN TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS BELOW, UH, TO THE SOUTH, THEIR CONCERN OBVIOUSLY IS THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOTEL.

SO THIS PLAN SHOWS, UM, SIX PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.

WE DON'T THINK WE NEED THOSE PARALLEL PARKING SPACING.

SO, UH, LEMME SEE IF THE NEXT PLAN I I JUST PUT A RED LINE ON THAT.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY THAT PARKING AND THEN THAT PROVIDES MORE GREEN SPACE BACK THERE.

IT ALSO KEEPS

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THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE INSTANCE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THAT LATE NIGHT.

ALTHOUGH MOST OF OUR PEOPLE COME DURING THE DAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HOTEL, WHICH LET'S, LET'S BE HONEST, IS A 24 HOUR BUSINESS IN THAT SENSE.

WE ARE ALSO ARE PLANTING, LEMME GO.

UM, I'LL, LET ME, I'M GOING TO, CAN I GO BACK? HOW DO I GO BACK? BECAUSE I WANT, I WANT TO GO TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING ALONG THAT BACK, I, I I'M GONNA GO FORWARD SOME MORE, BUT I DID, I WILL NEED TO GO BACK.

OH, WELL THAT USER STUPID.

I'M, I'M THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THAT.

THE STUPID USER.

OH, THERE WE GO.

A LANDSCAPE PLAN, I THINK, NOPE, LET'S GO BACK.

UH, WE ARE PLANNING 18 LIVE OAK TREES ALONG THAT BACK LINE THAT WILL ALL, THAT WILL START AT 12 FEET HIGH.

SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HIDING AMONG BEHIND THE, THE BRICK WALL.

THEY'RE GONNA START AT, AT A, AT A NICE HEIGHT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THOSE SPACES ARE STILL SHOWN THERE.

THAT'LL BE JUST A LARGER GREEN SPACE.

AGAIN, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE PARKING BACK THERE AND UNLESS IF I DON'T NEED THE PARKING THERE, I'M GONNA GO BACK.

YOU BROUGHT UP THE, THE LAMINATE, UM, STUFF THAT, THAT IS A BRANDING, UH, SITUATION FOR, FOR TRUE BY HO TRUE BY HILTON.

YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR SCHEMES IN THERE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IF, IF Y'ALL RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL DOES, AND WE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THAT LAMINATE.

WE'LL, WELL, I'LL BE HONEST, WE'LL FIND SOME WAY TO PUT THAT COLORING IN THERE JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BRANDING SITUATION AND, AND I THINK IT'S JUST AN ACCENT, BUT IT, IT JUST, IT'S JUST OUR BRAND AND STUFF.

SO, UM, WE CAN STILL WORK WITH THE STAFF AND MAYBE CONVINCE THEM THAT THE LAMINATE IS, IS, IS AN ACCEPTABLE, UM, ACCENT MATERIAL 'CAUSE IT IS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF THAT MATERIAL AND STUFF.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATIONS.

AND AGAIN ON THIS, THIS SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE ONE TO THE LEFT, I GUESS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THERE THOSE FOUR WINDOWS ARE AT THE END OF THE HALL THAT PROVIDE SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE HALL.

BUT, BUT WE CAN, UH, STIPULATE AND I THINK IT'S EVEN ON THE DRAWINGS, THOSE ARE OPAQUE WINDOWS THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IN OR OUT 'CAUSE UH, SO THE NEIGHBORS WON'T HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING INTO THEIR BACKYARD IN THAT SITUATION.

AGAIN, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND UM, UH, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE HOTELS.

I CALL IT THE FIVE AND FOUR , FIVE HOTELS IN A FOUR, IN A FOUR SLOT.

UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE HOTELS THAT'S IN YOUR DOCKET MATERIAL, UM, ON PAGE THREE OF SIX, UM, QUALITY IN THE SUITES, UM, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

THAT HOTEL IS 26 YEARS OLD.

I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH A 26-YEAR-OLD HOTEL, BUT UM, OBVIOUSLY AT 50 ROOMS, IT'S A VERY SMALL HOTEL AND DO THAT TODAY, IF IT PROBABLY CAME, WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INTO THAT BY NAME.

IT'S A, A MID-SCALE, BUT BY QUALITY IS PROBABLY AN ECONOMY SCALE.

UM, SO, UM, THE, THE OTHER HOMES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA ALSO ARE, ARE SMALLER THAN OURS.

AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THEM ARE NEW.

SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE THE 28, 20 15 AND 2019.

UM, THE LA QUINTA INN AND THE HOME TWO SUITES, WHICH ARE THOSE UPPER SCALE RIGHT THERE ON THE FREEWAY, ARE EIGHT YEARS OLD.

THAT'S A NEW HOTEL AND IT, AND IT PROVIDES MUCH OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE OFFER.

AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S A CANDLEWOODS, WHICH IS ACROSS, UM, NOT AS FAR AWAY TO THE AS IS BUILT IN 2008, UM, TO GO OVER SOME OF THE ISSUES THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP THAT ARE IN YOUR, IN YOUR MATERIAL, UM, HOME VALUES.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS HARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL LOSE MY HOME VALUE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHAT I DID IS I JUST LITERALLY LOOKED AT HOME MOTELS, HOTELS IN GRAND PRAIRIE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO HOUSES.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 'EM AREN'T.

SOME OF 'EM ARE.

SO THERE'S ONE, A COURTYARD, UH, OFF OF ARKANSAS THAT WAS BUILT IN 2008.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.

UM, AND THE, THE HOME VALUES HAVE INCREASED IN THAT TIME PERIOD IN THE LAST, SINCE, IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS BY BY 50%.

SO IS THAT SAYING THAT, THAT THEY GONE UP 60% IF THE HOTEL'S NOT THERE? UH, IT'S NOT, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVEN'T DECREASED.

BUT LET'S, LET'S BE HONEST, HAS ANYBODY BESIDES THE, THE GREAT RECESSION, HAS ANY HOME VALUES REALLY LOST IN THE DFW AREA? SO THEN I ALSO FOUND ONE A, UH, RESIDENCE IN OFF A WARRIOR IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.

I THOUGHT, WELL REALLY THE TRUE COMPARISON IS TO GO TWO OR THREE HOUSES AWAY FROM THAT, THE ADJACENT ONES AND SEE IF THEY'VE GAINED MORE THAN THAN THE ONES ADJACENT TO IT DOES THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THESE, THE HOUSES ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL MAY HAVE GONE UP 20%, BUT THE ONES A HALF A BLOCK AWAY WENT UP 30%.

SO THEN YOU COULD ALMOST MAKE THAT CORRELATION TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE AGE OF HOMES AND THINGS THAT THAT HOTEL HAD AN EFFECT.

AND IF YOU GO TWO HOUSES AWAY, NOT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THE NEXT ONES THE VALUE HAS INCREASED BY THE SAME, APPROXIMATE 25 TO 30%.

AND, AND HOME VALUE IS, IS KIND OF AN ARBITRARY THING.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP WAS TRAFFIC.

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AND LET'S BE HONEST, A HOTEL IS VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY NONE OF OUR TRAFFIC CAN GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY CAN GET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA CUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THE HOTEL.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER USES THAT COULD BE ADJACENT TO THOSE HOMES, UM, AND I JUST WENT TO SEE LIST, UM, AND I DIDN'T PICK OUT ANYTHING JUST LIKE, OH, THAT'S HORRIBLE FUNERAL HOME.

NOTHING WRONG WITH A FUNERAL HOME, A VET CLINIC, AN URGENT CARE CENTER, WHICH OBVIOUSLY COULD HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, A HOSPITAL, NO ONE'S GONNA BE ABLE A HOSPITAL ON THAT SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, A BANK.

UM, THE OTHER ONES THAT REALLY HAVE, HAVE PROBABLY SOME, SOME ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU AT A GROCERY STORE.

OBVIOUSLY A GROCERY STORE HAS A LOT OF DELIVERIES LATE AT NIGHT AND POSSIBLY EARLY IN THE MORNING, A HARDWARE STORE, NOT AS MUCH, BUT A RESTAURANT.

SO THERE ARE SOME USES THAT THEY GO THERE BY.

THAT, THAT IN MY MIND ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE DETRIMENTAL THAN A, THAN A HOTEL WOULD BE.

UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT, WHAT ELSE WAS I GONNA BRING UP? OH, DELIVERIES.

UM, THE RESTAURANT BROUGHT DELIVERIES.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE 18 WHEELERS TO MAKE DELIVERIES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE OFFER FREE BREAKFAST AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THEY'LL HAVE A, A SMALLER BOX TRUCK TYPE DELIVERY, MUCH LIKE PROBABLY THE CVS OR A WALGREEN WOULD HAVE A SMALLER TRUCK.

OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE ARE BUILDING IT, THERE'LL BE 18 WHEELERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT OTHERWISE THERE'D BE SMALLER TRAFFIC.

UM, WE SEE, UH, PROBABLY IF I MENTIONED 60%, UH, OCCUPANCY, THAT'S 60, UM, ROOMS AT A GIVEN TIME.

UH, MOST OF OUR, UH, PEOPLE ARRIVE IN MIDDAY, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, BUSINESS TRAVELERS, SO NOT OUT PARTYING LATE AT NIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THE OUTDOOR STUFF IS LIMITED TO UM, 9:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SO OTHERWISE, AS THE SCREEN SAYS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

WELL, YOU ARE A VERY GOOD SALESMAN, I MUST SAY , I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A AS CAN TELL, FOR THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY AREA AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND CONSIDERING NOT EVEN CONSIDERING IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE HOTELS IN THE AREA, BUT THIS CANDLEWOOD IT WAS AT THE QUALITY END.

YOU SPEAK TO BEING 26 YEARS OLD.

UM, I JUST, IT JUST, I GUESS I'M THINKING YOU THINK OR YOU'VE DONE A MARKETING STUDY TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY THE HOTELS, YOU THINK YOU COULD STILL BE PROFITABLE? OH, I, I THINK SO.

AND, AND I THINK BRINGING THE, THE, THE HILTON BRAND OBVIOUSLY, UM, AS AN INDEPENDENT, YOU, YOU WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.

BUT WITH A HILTON BRAND YOU GET THAT BUILT IN HILTON REWARDS PROGRAMS AND STUFF THAT PEOPLE, AND, AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE ME WRONG, BUT MCDONALD'S, WHEN YOU GO INTO MCDONALD'S, YOU KNOW, THE MCDONALD'S IN GRAND PRAIRIE IS GONNA BE THE SAME AS MCDONALD'S IN ATLANTA.

THERE'LL BE A, YOU KNOW, GOING TO A TRUE HOTEL THAT THESE ARE THE FEATURES I'M GONNA GET.

THIS IS A QUALITY I'M GONNA GET.

UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE BAD OPERATORS? SURE THERE ARE, BUT, BUT YOU FEEL A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT WITH THAT TRUE, THAT HILTON BRAND.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY HILTON IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BIGGEST BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST BRAND, UH, HOTEL CHAINS IN THE WORLD.

SO, SO ARE YOU BANKING ON THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING GROWING OUR ENTERTAINMENT, UH, AREA? IS THAT THE MAIN FOCUS? DEFINITELY.

UM, AND, AND LET'S, LET'S, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD CUPS HERE IN TWO YEARS, UH, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER THAT? THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER PICKING EVENT.

UH, JERRY'S PROBABLY DOING ANOTHER SUPER BOWL HERE.

WELL, NOT WITH THE COWBOYS IN IT, BUT ANOTHER SUPER BOWL.

SORRY.

WE CAN HOPE IT'S ONLY BEEN 29 YEARS.

YEAH, IT'S ONLY BEEN 29 YEARS.

IT'S GOTTA COME AROUND, BUT, BUT THERE OBVIOUSLY ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT COMING IN, IN, IN GRAND PRAIRIE AND THE WHOLE METROPLEX AND STUFF AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GROWING MM-HMM .

WE'RE GROWING AND THERE'S A LOT OF, OF RETAIL AND INDUSTRIAL AND EVERYTHING GROWING UP AND DOWN I 20 THAT THAT NEEDS HOTEL ROOMS. MM-HMM .

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PICKING ON THE QUALITY END, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OPERATOR IS, BUT IT'S 26-YEAR-OLD TWO STORY.

IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA ATTRACT PROBABLY THE BUSINESS TRAVELER THAT, THAT IT MIGHT'VE DONE 20 YEARS AGO.

MM.

GOOD POINT.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, SO DOES HILTON OWN THAT LAND OR DOES SOMEONE ELSE OWN THAT LAND? NO, THE, THE OPERATOR WILL BUY IT.

THE OPERATOR AND BUILD IT? YES.

SO THEY'RE NOT IN POSSESSION OF IT RIGHT NOW? UH, NO.

AS, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW.

SO, UM, THE OWNER OPERATOR, THE OPERATOR, DO THEY ALREADY CURRENTLY OWN OTHER, OR YES.

OR RUNNING OTHER HOTELS? YES.

THEY, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE OTHER HILTON AND OTHER PROPERTIES? YES.

UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE TREES ALONG THE BACKSIDE.

'CAUSE I LOOK AT THIS NOT FROM A, UH, INCOME TO THE CITY.

OH, FOR SURE.

OR ANYTHING, BUT TO, IF THAT WAS MY HOUSE BEHIND IT.

OH, I AGREE.

UM, SO I LOOKED AT THE ELEVATIONS AND I DIDN'T SEE LIGHTING INDICATED ON THE BACK.

UM, WHERE IS THE LIGHTING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING? THE, ALL, ALL LIGHTING'S GONNA BE FORCED DOWN, OBVIOUSLY, UH, CUTOFF LIGHTING, BUT, BUT THE ONLY LIGHTING WILL BE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, AN ENTRANCE BACK THERE THAT'S A FIRE EXIT ENTRANCE.

BE SOME LITTLE SMALL BALLER LIGHTING UHHUH BY THE ROW OF PARKING.

THAT'S THE ONLY LIGHTING.

IT'LL BE THAT DIRECTION.

THERE'LL ALSO

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NOT THE ONE WE'RE REMOVING, BUT THE OTHER ONE.

BUT THAT'S ALL THE, THE, AND THEN AS YOU GO AROUND IN THE BIGGER PARKING LOT, THERE, THERE ARE FIXTURES THERE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOWN FIXTURES.

UM, AND THEN, SO I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE WHERE THIS IS AND I, UM, I, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY YOU WOULD WANNA TUCK THIS FANTASTIC QUALITY HOTEL IN THE BACK OF A LOT BEHIND A BANK AND A WALGREENS AND NOT ON THIS, ON THE ROAD UP FRONT.

UM, SO THERE'S LIMITED, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MUCH MORE YEAH.

THERE'S LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF LAND ON, ON, OBVIOUSLY ON THE I 20 FRONT.

WELL, NO, I'M LOOKING AT, ON BARDON.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAD IT UP NEXT TO THE BANK, THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

WELL, I'LL BE HONEST, THAT, THAT NEXT TO THE BANK IS, IS RIPE FOR A PAD SITE FOR NAME OR RESTAURANT.

UM, AND AS, AS OPPOSED TO IF I'M LOOKING, IF, IF I'M A TRAVELER, UM, AND, AND LET'S SAY I, LET'S SAY I DIDN'T FLY INTO DFW AND TAKE AN UBER THERE MM-HMM .

UM, I CAN FIND THAT ON OUR PHONE.

AND IT'LL, I DON'T HAVE TO, A HOTEL IS NOT A, HEY, THERE'S A HOTEL I'LL PULL IN AS OPPOSED TO I'M PICKING A MCDONALD, LET'S GO WHATABURGER INSTEAD OF MCDONALD'S.

THERE'S A WHATABURGER THERE, AND I'LL, I'M HUNGRY, I'LL PULL IN MM-HMM .

SO THAT, THAT'S A HOTEL CAN TAKE A, A SITE THAT'S NOT JUST THAT, UH, SPOT OF SPUR OF THE MOMENT TYPE THING.

LIKE A, LIKE A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING WOULD.

SO THAT'S, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A AS THAT THE OWNER THAT, THAT OWNS THAT WHOLE TRACK OF LAND, HE'S GONNA SET THAT ASIDE FOR THAT.

A, A BANK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SPUR OF THE MOMENT THING, BUT A BANK WANTS THAT VISIBILITY.

A HOTEL DOESN'T NEED THE VISIBILITY.

ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES AND, AND OBVIOUSLY A DISADVANTAGE OF FOUR STORIES, I'M GONNA HAVE MY NAME BRAND FACING THAT DIRECTION SO SOMEONE CAN SEE ME.

COMMISSIONER, UH, CHAPMAN? YES.

AND I'M ABOVE THE, THE BANK.

I'M ABOVE THE DRUG STORE ABOVE THE FUTURE FAST FOOD.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, CARL, GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU MENTIONED THE HOME TO SUITES LOCATION, UH, IN THE AREA OWNED THE SUITES.

OH, THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THE UPPER SCALE ONES.

UH, THAT IS ALSO OWNED BY HILTON.

IS IT THE SAME OPERATOR THAT'S GOING TO NO, IT'S NOT.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

UM, AND THEN AS THE TWO, UM, COMMISSIONER MADDEN'S QUESTION, THE PLAN FOR THE REMAINDER, THE REMAINDER OF THE, UH, LOT, LET'S, MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT.

IS IT FOR A RESTAURANT? YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.

SO THE OWNER, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S THE LOGICAL THING ON THAT FRONTAGE WOULD BE A RESTAURANT.

UH, IT, A RESTAURANT'S ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THAT.

AND IT'S, UH, I'M SURE IT'S STILL FOR SALE.

SO, MR. CROWLEY, JUST, I, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF I UNDERSTAND THINGS CORRECTLY FACING SOUTH, THE SOUTHWARD FACING WALL WILL HAVE NO ROOM WINDOWS ON IT.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

BUT THEY'LL HAVE OPAQUE WINDOWS JUST AT THE END OF THE HALLWAYS.

END OF THE HALLWAY.

SO, BUT OPAQUE ENOUGH TO LET LIGHT IN, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE OUT, OR, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, O OPAQUE ENOUGH THAT, THAT WELL, YOU'D BE MUTED LIGHT OUT, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE OUT.

YOU, YOU COULD, YOU CAN'T SEE SHAPES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, AND THERE'S TWO PURPOSES OF THAT.

ONE IS TO LET LIGHT IN THE HALLWAY, BUT BE HONEST, THE OTHER ONE I DIDN'T BRING UP, JUST BECAUSE IT'S HOPEFULLY NEVER HAPPENS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ACCESS TO THAT BUILDING FROM THE ENDS.

THOSE WINDOWS ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT BREAKOUT WINDOWS IN A SENSE THAT IF THEY NEEDED TO GET UP TO THAT LADDER ON THAT FLOOR AND COULDN'T GET FROM ANOTHER DIRECTION, I CAN GET THROUGH THAT WINDOW A LOT EASIER THAN I CAN TO WALL.

SO THEY, THEY USUALLY ARE CLEAR, BUT YOU CAN MAKE THEM OPAQUE AND THEY'LL BE OPAQUE.

BUT THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT A HIGH RISE, THERE'S CERTAIN WINDOWS THAT ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT WINDOWS THAT ARE MARKED.

'CAUSE THAT MEANS THAT WINDOW CAN BREAK OUT EASIER.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT ALSO.

AND THEN THE FRANCHISEE WHO WOULD OPERATE THIS HOTEL, HOW MANY HOTELS DO THEY OPERATE CURRENTLY? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR.

UM, BUT I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SPOKE TO HIM A NUMBER, BUT, BUT LAST I KNEW HE HAD FOUR HOTELS.

UM, IN, IN THE DFW AREA, THEY'RE ALL IN THE DFW AREA.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

I THINK COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN HAS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

ONE YES.

TO THAT POINT.

I FORGOT, UM, I KNOW I SAW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OFF 360.

IS THAT ONE OF HIS PROPERTIES TOO IN GRAND PRAIRIE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LOCATIONS.

WHERE ARE HIS PROPERTIES IN THE METROPLEX? UH, JU JUST IN THE WHOLE DFW AREA.

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AND I'M SORRY.

AND TO THAT SAME VEIN, UM, THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE DRC HAS MADE, ARE THEY ISSUES, WERE THEY ISSUES WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES IF THEY'RE TRUE HOTELS? NO.

NO, I, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU MEAN THE LAMINATE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM BEFORE.

I CAN NO, NO, NO.

NOT, NOT FOR US AS THE CITY, BUT FOR YOU AND YOUR OWNER.

OH, OH, OTHER CITIES.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT.

NO, I, YOU KNOW, I, THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF LAMINATE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IF WE'D SAT DOWN WITH STAFF AND GO, THIS IS WHAT IT'S MADE OUT OF, MAYBE I, MAYBE I COULD'VE GOTTEN PAST THE HUMP.

IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE THE MATERIAL'S GONNA GO BAD OR SOMETHING.

IT'S, IT'S A STANDARD BUILDING MATERIAL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SEAMLESS COMPLIANCE FOR THE OWNER.

I UNDERSTAND.

UNDERSTAND, AND, AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT IF, I THINK I MENTIONED IF WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH HERE AND THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND IT'S APPROVED, AND THAT'S CONDITIONS THERE, I, I STILL THINK THE COLORS ARE GONNA END UP BEING THERE.

UH, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR COLOR.

IF, IF IT'S THE MATERIAL, THEN THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO DO IT BESIDES THAT.

I GUESS YOU COULD PAINT CONCRETE OR SOMETHING.

UH, IT'S JUST NOT THE MM-HMM .

IT'S NOT THE PREFERRED, SHALL WE SAY.

BUT THE MATERIAL, THE COLOR IS, IS A SCHEME THAT IS GONNA NEED TO, I THINK HILTS GONNA PROBABLY WANT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER VONG? YES.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE OPERATOR OWNS, UM, AROUND ABOUT FOUR HOTELS.

AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, HA DO THEY HAVE ANY PLANS, UM, TO IMPLEMENT, UM, SOME TYPE OF PLAN, UM, TO PREVENT SEX TRAFFICKING AT THEIR LOCATION? AND HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, UM, ALLEGATIONS OR COMPLAINT AT THE OTHER HOTELS THAT THEY OWN FOR SEX TRAFFICKING? YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM EARLIER TODAY, AND BECAUSE I WAS ASKING ABOUT SECURITY AND, AND THE FRANCHISE STUFF, AND EACH OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, EVERY YEAR, UH, HILTON REQUIRES THEM TO GO THROUGH TRAINING JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE ON HOW TO IDENTIFY THE, THE LITTLE NUANCE THINGS ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING.

AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED IN THAT.

HE'S HAD NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.

BUT HILTON IS VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, EACH, EACH OF THEIR EMPLOYEES HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT TRAINING AND BE RE-CERTIFIED, UM, EVERY YEAR TO, TO SCOPE THAT OUT, I GUESS IS THE BEST WORD TO SAY.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, I'M, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT, BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE HAPPENING IN SITUATIONS THAT LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE IN THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT AS, AS HILTON FRANCHISE E ALL OF HIS EMPLOYEES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT CERTIFICATION.

SO THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING.

AND, AND HE'S, HE'S VERY MUCH AWARE OF IT, AND HE'S SAID NO COMPLAINTS.

AND HILTON IS VERY MUCH INTO THAT TOO, IS MAKING SURE.

SO THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO BE A GOOD, A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO GRAND PRAIRIE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEX TRAFFICKING.

YOU BET.

GOOD, GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN ON THAT FOR SURE.

WE, WE SHOULD ALL BE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, ALL IN ON THAT, FOR SURE.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE INFLUX OF SO MANY HOTELS IN THE AREA.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONSIDER ANOTHER LOCATION SINCE IT'S THE PROPERTY IS, IT HASN'T BEEN PURCHASED YET? UM, WELL, OBVIOUSLY IF, IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, UM, HE'S LOOKING FOR, FOR HOTEL LOCATIONS, UM, HE PREFERS THIS ONE, BUT, UH, HE'S NOT GONNA LIKE, TURN HIS BACK ON GRAND PRAIRIE RUNAWAY AND HIDE OR ANYTHING.

SO, UM, YEAH.

YOU MAY SCARE HIM OFF FOR A WHILE, BUT IT MM-HMM .

GRAND.

THIS IS A, A GOOD MARKET AND HE'S, HE KNOWS IT IS, UM, HE LIKES THIS LOCATION FOR ITS PROXIMITY TO, TO THE FREEWAY AND EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GOT, UH, COMMISSIONER COLEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

I SAID THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

IT WAS AWESOME.

BUT I HAVE, UH, I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH DATES BECAUSE YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

IT WAS AWESOME.

BUT IF YOU HAD DONE THE SAME JOB TO THE STAFF, THEY WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT.

WELL, I, I THINK THAT THE STAFF'S A BIG ISSUE IS THE FIVE AND FOUR.

AGAIN, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET PAST THAT.

THE MATH IS PRETTY BASIC MATH I CAN'T GIVE MM-HMM.

THE LAMINATE, UH, THAT WAS NOT GONNA BE, IF THAT WAS A, A DEAL KILLER, THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

UH, THE COLORS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE LAMINATES NOT SO MM-HMM.

COULDN'T GET PAST THAT SITUATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE VARI, THE BIGGEST VARIANCE I THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE HEIGHT, OBVIOUSLY.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW.

I, I'M NOT GONNA DENY THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO, THE HEIGHT WAS 40 FEET AND I

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WAS ASKING FOR 10.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.

BUT YEAH, I'M OBVIOUSLY DOUBLING THE HEIGHT, BRUTALLY HONEST, YOU KNOW, HEY, BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH.

THERE AIN'T NO REASON TO BLOW SMOKE.

IT, IT IS THAT HEIGHT.

I, I, YOU KNOW, A TWO STORY HOTEL.

WHAT, HAS ANYONE BUILT A TWO STORY HOTEL LATELY? NO, THEY'RE JUST NOT MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, THE LAND VALUE AND EVERYTHING.

UM, THREE STORIES IS, I CAN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE BUILDING THREE STORIES.

EVEN, EVEN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER LA QUINTA, WHICH IS A MID, UPPER, MID SCALE, STILL BUILTS, A FOUR STORY HOTEL.

YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I, I JUST CAN'T GET PAST THE, THE A NEED OF FOUR STORIES AND, AND I, I DEFINITELY CAN'T GET PAST THE, THE FIVE MM-HMM .

I'M JUST STUCK ON THAT FIVE AND FOUR.

I GUESS THAT'S BETTER THAN SIX AND FOUR.

, ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE, THE VISIBILITY.

YOU CUT OFF THE VISIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE SKY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SURE.

HIGHER UP YOU GO, YOU KIND OF TAKE AWAY THEIR, THEIR SPACE THERE.

I GUESS, I GUESS AT LEAST.

I'M, UH, AGAIN, AT ONE POINT, THE FIRST DESIGN HAD IT TURNED 90 DEGREES AND FLIPPED ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, WHICH, OKAY.

IT'S GOOD.

I MOVED IT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS, BUT NOW I'VE, I WOULD'VE BLOCKED MORE VIEW 'CAUSE I'M SIDEWAYS FOR, OR LENGTHWISE VERSUS SIDEWAYS.

BUT I YOU, YOU'D NEVER GET PAST THAT.

NO, NO.

YOU KNOW, IF I WAS 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE 500 FEET AWAY.

BUT I'D BE, UH, 150 FEET OR 200 FEET AWAY.

SO I I, YOU, I GOTTA TURN IT THAT 90 DEGREES.

OTHERWISE Y'ALL WOULD'VE BEEN JUST DOWN.

WELL, YOU HAVE GIVEN US A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND, UH, THANK YOU.

CATCH UP TO, WELL, THANK, I'LL GIVE YOU CARDS AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL MY BOSS AND TELL HIM THAT , YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING, I'LL SHOW HIM THE TAPE.

I'LL, I'LL JUST SHOW HIM THE TAPE AND SAY, HEY, I DID GOOD.

I MAY NOT WIN, BUT I DID GOOD.

AND ACTUALLY, THE CORPORATE GUYS FROM NEW YORK ARE COMING IN TOMORROW, SO I REALLY OUGHT TO MAKE SURE THE TAPE, IS IT GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TOMORROW THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, THE TAPE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN SAY, SEE THAT MINE? SEE, SEE HOW GOOD HE WAS? YOU ARE VERY GOOD.

THANK VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

A LOT OF ALSO TELL MY WIFE THAT A LOT OF DETAILED INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR THAT.

NO, BECAUSE I WAS JUST ALL THE WAY AGAINST THIS COMPLETELY UNTIL YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT I MOVED THE NEEDLE, BUT MAY NOT HAVE GOT YOU.

THAT'S FINE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA BLOW SMOKE.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

I NEED TO COME BACK.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO IF I COULD MOVE IT, IF I COULD MOVE IT A HUNDRED YARDS NORTH, WE'D, WE'D BEEN FINISHED WITH THIS PRESENTATION A LONG TIME.

EXACTLY.

BUT THEY'RE NOT STRETCHING LAND.

AND THEY'RE NOT MAKING NEW LAND, SO.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

UH, WELL, I'M SORRY.

UH, SIR, WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER MANITA MEDINA, NOT, NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS, AS A COMMENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I TOO ENJOYED YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE REMARK ABOUT THE COWBOYS WAS UNNECESSARY.

WELL, SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS DIFFICULT TO, AND LAST NIGHT'S GAME WAS NOT, IT WAS, IT WAS BOTH OFFENSIVE AND ACCURATE AT THE SAME TIME.

WELL, SOMETIMES IT IS .

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER WE HAVE GO AHEAD MA'AM.

SORRY.

ANY OTHER, OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CARDS.

UM, I HAVE DANA BALDRIDGE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS DANA BALDRIDGE.

I LIVE AT 41 0 6 BRITON COURT.

UM, I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS.

ONE I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.

WHAT IS THE OCCUPANCY RATE OF ALL THESE OTHER HOTELS IN THE AREA? I MEAN, IS THERE A NEED EVEN IN THAT AREA? AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S PLANNED TO BE BUILT THAT HASN'T STARTED.

IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM .

I THAT IS CORRECT.

AM I CORRECT? CORRECT.

THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS APPROVED.

IT, IT AND ACROSS 20, UM, THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT, BUT IT WAS APPROVED.

THERE'S AN SUP THERE, SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE.

THERE COULD BE, YES.

FRANCHISE, WHATEVER'S THIS.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

I'M JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEA IF THERE'S EVEN A NEED FOR A HOTEL.

UM, MY OTHER IS WHAT GUARANTEE IS THERE THAT THIS HOTEL IS GONNA STAY AT THIS LEVEL OR THAT IN FIVE YEARS, WHOEVER OWNS IT, FRIENDS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, AND IT KEEPS GOING DOWN IN QUALITY.

24 7, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO IN.

UH, KIND OF SITUATION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY OURS IS PRIVACY ISSUES NOISE.

UM, IT'S A HOTEL, IT'S GOT A POOL PEOPLE PARTY, AND BUSINESS PEOPLE DO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.

I'VE BEEN ON BUSINESS MEETINGS.

THERE CAN BE A LOT OF PARTYING.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SITUATION.

UM, AND I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHERE THE POOL WAS LOCATED IN RELATIONSHIP TO EVERYTHING AND ALL THE LITTLE GAME OUTDOOR GAME STUFF.

UM, ALSO, IF THERE'S A RESTAURANT AND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL BEING SERVED, IS THERE A CUTOFF TIME? I KNOW SOME HO HOTEL LOBBIES HAVE IT

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I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

UM, WHETHER IT'D BE MORE CONTROL LIKE A BAR, YOU KNOW, HEY, TWO O'CLOCK, EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, CUT OFF OR WHAT, UM, OTHER ALSO TRASH PICKUP, DUMPSTER NOISES.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM COME AROUND EARLY IN THE MORNING AND IF IT'S RIGHT BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT LOUD BOOM OF A DUMPSTER GOING INTO A TRASH CAN.

MM-HMM.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I DON'T LIKE IT.

UM, I MEAN, THE OTHER IS, UM, LIKE, I MEAN, I COULDN'T, I CAN'T READ HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOOT WISE, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

UM, I'M GLAD YOU TOOK AWAY THE PARKING PLACES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE WALL.

BUT THEN THE OTHER THING TOO IS WHEN IT SHOWED THE EXITS ONTO GREAT SOUTHWEST, ONE IS LITERALLY ALMOST RIGHT UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PEOPLE CONSTANTLY MAKING U-TURNS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT THERE IS A CUTOUT THERE.

LIKE YOU CAN GO OVER WHERE THE AUTO ZONE IS.

THERE IT IS.

IT GETS KIND OF CRAZY THERE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO TURN THERE.

THERE'S NOT A TURN.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE SOUTHBOUND ON GREAT SOUTHWEST AND YOU WANT TO TURN THERE, THERE IS NOT A TURN LANE.

YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN AND BLOCK A SOUTHBOUND LANE, IS THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY SET UP.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME REAR END COLLISIONS THERE.

THERE'S BEEN ISSUES OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A TURN THERE TO GO BACK NORTH ON GREAT SOUTHWEST THAT HAVE CAUSED ACCIDENTS.

UM, I MEAN, I, YEAH, I THINK THAT YOU'VE MADE SOME VERY VALID POINTS.

AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY INITIALLY BEFORE HE MADE HIS PRESENTATION, I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, .

BUT, AND, BUT THAT OUR CONCERN IS, IS FOR YOU, YOU'RE ALREADY HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING TAXES.

I'VE BEEN THERE 38 YEARS.

WELL, YOU, YOU ARE, YOU ARE GRAND PRAIRIE, SO TO SPEAK.

NO, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING BECAUSE YOUR CONCERNS ARE VALID, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR PRIVACY.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO, UM, NOT HAVING A LOT OF NOISE.

AND YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU NEVER KNOW.

I MEAN, WE, WE CAN ANTICIPATE AND ASSUME, BUT WE NEVER KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA PAN OUT.

WE REALLY CAN'T.

OH, YEAH.

YES, YES, YES.

BUT I JUST, I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ANSWERS TO ANY OF THOSE, LIKE THE ALCOHOL ISSUE OR ANY, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE RASHELLE.

WE HAVE TO GET THE, WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE? OH, YOU OKAY? MM-HMM .

CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE FOUR PLEASE? HER QUESTIONS THOUGH, SHE SAID ABOUT THE FIRST THING WAS ABOUT OCCUPANCY.

SHE OF THE OCCUPANCY OF THE OTHER HOTELS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT MIGHT BE MORE EFFICIENT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS IF WE CAN ALLOW ALL THE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK AND THEN RECALL THE APPLICANT UP SO YOU CAN ANSWER EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS.

WE CAN DO THAT.

IS THAT IT? YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE JAMES MEYERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.

HELLO, MR. MYERS.

GOOD EVENING.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

JAMES MYERS, 25 54 SLATON DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.

UH, ON YOUR SHEET HERE, THIS PROPERTY LINE HERE, I CAN'T SEE THAT.

CAN YOU PULL IT UP FOR US, BRITTANY, SO WE CAN SEE IT IF YOU DON'T MIND? WE, WE CAN'T SEE THAT FROM HERE, SIR, SO JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

ONE SECOND.

, AND THEN YOU CAN GOOD.

AND THEN YOU CAN USE THIS TOO.

CAN I USE THE MOUSE? YEP.

USE ARE THE MOUSE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA, OH, THERE IT'S, YEAH.

I, AS I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT HERE.

AND SO HERE'S GONNA BE A DRIVEWAY INTO THE PROPERTY.

I THINK THERE'S AN EASEMENT GOING INTO THAT.

THAT'S AN EXISTING SITE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH AN SUP SITE PLAN.

THAT IS.

BUT IT IS GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE YES.

IN THE HOTEL.

SO THAT'S A, AN ENTRANCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.

AND SO THE HOTEL'S GOING TO USE THAT.

SO THIS DRIVE THAT'S GOING IN THERE.

THE FENCE OR THE WALL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EIGHT FOOT WALL? MM-HMM .

WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE PLACED? IS THAT GONNA BE RIGHT UP AGAINST MY FENCE? IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO YOUR EXISTING FENCE.

I'M SORRY.

IT'LL BE CLOSE TO YOUR EXISTING FENCE.

CLOSE TO OR TO IT? UH, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE IT MENTIONED ON THEIR SITE PLAN ONE INCH.

SO ALMOST ABUTTING IT.

SO YOUR FENCE AND THEN ABOUT AN INCH, AND THEN THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL WILL BE RIGHT THERE.

SO AS I SAW FROM YOUR OTHER PICTURES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE GREENERY HERE.

WITH TREES? YES.

THEY'RE PROPOSED OR THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUT 18 TREES ALONG THAT MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

FOR A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

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WELL, I'M RIGHT HERE.

SO WHAT'S TELLING ME IS I PUT THE DRIVE IN HERE, I'M GONNA LOSE MY TREES AS I GOT BACK HERE NOW, SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITE.

THAT'S NOT THE SITE IN QUESTION TONIGHT, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR DRIVE, YOUR ENTRANCE TO THIS HOTEL THERE.

SO THE CITY IS NOT, BUT THE DEVELOPER DID GET AN SUP SITE PLAN APPROVED YES.

FOR A DRIVEWAY AT THAT LOCATION? THAT IS CORRECT.

WAIT, FINISH.

THAT'S MY POINT.

WE CAN'T, SO I'M GONNA LOSE MY TREES.

SO IF THEY'RE INSIDE YOUR OWN PROPERTY, NO, NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON THE OUTSIDE THE FENCE.

SO IF THEY'RE ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY MM-HMM.

AND THEY NEED TO REMOVE THOSE TREES, THEN YES, THOSE TREES WILL BE REMOVED.

SO I'M GONNA LOSE MY CARDINALS AND THE SQUIRRELS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, SIR.

IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IN ADDITION TO ALL THIS, YOU TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SELLABILITY OF MY HOUSE.

IF I DECIDE TO PUT MY HOUSE ON THE MARKET, SOMEBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR AND THEY LOVE IT.

THEY JUST LOVE THIS HOUSE.

WE TAKE 'EM OUT THE BACKYARD.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A NICE PERGOLA UP THERE AND THEY LOOK OVER HERE AND SAY, SEE THIS FOUR STORY TALL HOTEL.

I THINK I WILL CONTINUE LOOKING, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT.

AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE, SIR.

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

WHEN A, WHEN A CASE COMES UP, WE HAVE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.

AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO APPLY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO TO, TO AIR YOUR CONCERNS.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE, WE MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL AS LAY PEOPLE AS CITIZENS.

AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO VOICE THESE.

NOT GOING BE WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON THERE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE WAREHOUSING MM-HMM .

WHAT'S THIS DOING TO OUR POWER GRID? IS OUR POWER GRID GONNA BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN ALL THIS? THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE POWER GRID.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

SO, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS THAT WE, WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THIS, THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE YOU MAKE SOME VERY VALID POINTS.

WELL, WE, I KNOW A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AROUND AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TRUCK PARKING.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT ALL THE WAREHOUSING DRIVER DROPS HIS TRAILER OFF DOWN HERE AT THE WAREHOUSE, AND HE'S GONNA COME UP HERE, SPEND THE NIGHT AT THE MOTEL.

SO IT'S 20 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND HE'S LEAVING THAT TRUCK IDLE ALL NIGHT LONG, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WON'T START.

BUT IS THAT THE, THE, WHERE IS HE GONNA PARK THE TRUCK? WHERE, WHERE IS THE TRUCK BEING PARKED? I MEAN, THAT'S, A LOT OF THESE THESE THINGS ARE NOT A PART OF THIS.

I MEAN, YOU MAKE VERY GOOD POINTS, BUT, BUT HE COME, HE, HE'S COMING UP HERE, GONNA STAY IN THE HOTEL.

HE'S PARKING HIS TRUCK IN THE HOTEL PARKING LOT.

WELL, WHICH BRINGS UP NO, HE SAID NO 18 WHEELERS.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU CISCO FOODS, US FOODS, BENNY KEITH FOODS, THEY ALL DELIVER BY 18 WHEELERS.

THEY DON'T DELIVER ON BOX TRUCKS.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

SO HE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY WHAT HE SAYS.

UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER, UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON, ON THAT? NOT REALLY.

THE ONLY POINT I WANTED TO MAKE TOO EARLIER WAS THAT THE TREES THAT WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR, OF YOUR FENCE ARE PART OF A DIFFERENT PROJECT ALTOGETHER.

AND THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD USE THE ROAD OR THE PARKING PORTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, BUT I'M, I'M WITH YOU COMPLETELY.

SO UNDERSTAND.

WELL, I, I, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IF, IF WE CONCRETE THAT IN THOSE TREES, THOSE TREES ARE GONE, TAKEN AWAY, TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR AREA.

YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS EIGHT FOOT WALL, IS IT GOING TO, IS IT JUST GOING TO, IS IT GOING TO END HERE? AND THERE'S GONNA BE NOTHING HERE? WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, SIR, IS JUST, JUST STATE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANT COME BACK AND RESPOND TO THEM.

'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

WE, WE JUST LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES.

EACH DEVELOPER, I'M SORRY, DO HAVE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

EACH DEVELOPER'S GONNA BE REQUIRED TO PUT UP THEIR PORTION OF THE WALL.

SO THAT PORTION OF THE WALL TO THE WEST, THAT DEVELOPER, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE BROKEN GROUND YET, BUT THAT PORTION OF THE WALL IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY FOR, JUST LIKE, FOR THIS PARCEL, IF IT IS APPROVED, THE HOTEL WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE WALL.

BUT IS IT GONNA BE A CONCRETE BLOCK WALL OR IT'S A MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

IT'LL GO THROUGH A FENCING PERMIT REVIEW TO MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO CITY STANDARDS.

THANK YOU SIR.

WELL, THANK, THANK YOU.

WE'LL TRY TO GET EVERY, ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

THEY'RE NOT ANSWERED TODAY.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT I'M THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? UH, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR TERRY FOSTER.

HE, UH, CHOSE BOTH.

I WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM AND I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, SO, OKAY.

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MY NAME IS TERRY FOSTER.

I LIVE AT 25 46 SLATON DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND NOW I'VE GOT A HOTEL IN MY BACKYARD.

YET, NOT YET.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, I OPENED MY PATIO DOOR.

WHAT DO I SEE? YC BUT IT'S NOT THERE YET, SIR.

THAT, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

WE ARE HERE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES.

AND WE MAKE A, WE MAKE A, A, THIS IS, WE MAKE A, A DECISION AND THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

CITY COUNCIL.

SO THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY.

WE JUST, WE ARE LAY PEOPLE.

WE LIVE IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITIES.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

SO WE JUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON AS LAY PEOPLE, JUST LIKE TAXPAYERS, JUST LIKE YOU.

AND THEN WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE, THE CITY COULD DECIDE TO AGREE OR NOT AGREE.

SO THIS IS A LONG PROCESS.

WELL, I'LL BE BACK.

BUT JUST TELL US, JUST SO NO, I WANT YOU TO, WE WANT FOR THE RECORD, JUST TELL US SPECIFICALLY BESIDE THOSE, THAT'S THE ONLY POINT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE IS OPENING YOUR BACK DOOR, YOUR DOOR TO THE HOTEL.

DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? WELL, THIS IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOUSE.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD CONCERN.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T LEAVE OUT ANYTHING, SIR.

THAT'S ALL.

WELL, NO, THEY, THEY MENTIONED EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, 40 YEARS IS A LONG TIME AND, AND YOU DESERVE TO, TO HAVE THE, THE BENEFIT OF ENJOYING YOUR HOME AS YOU HAVE BEEN FOR 40 YEARS.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE LIVED IN GRAND PRAIRIE FOR 40 YEARS.

THAT'S A LONG TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. FOSTER, DO YOU MIND PUTTING YOUR ADDRESS DOWN HERE? I WASN'T ABLE TO CATCH IT.

OH, OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY SPEAKER CARDS ON THAT.

UM, YES MA'AM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

SO CAN YOU COME IN, CAN YOU COME IN TO RESPOND TO THAT RASHAD OR DO YOU WANNA RESPOND FIRST? NO, I THINK THE APPLICANT SHOULD RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, I WROTE DOWN SOME NOTES, UM, OCCUPANCY FOR AREA HOTELS.

YOU KNOW, I, I JUST KNOW THE DFW AVERAGE IS 60 TO 70%.

I WOULD'VE TO SAY SOME OF THOSE HOTELS, IF YOU LOOK, SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY SMALL HOTELS.

40, 50 ROOMS, WHICH IS SMALL EVEN PROBABLY WHEN THEY WERE BUILT.

UM, A RESTAURANT'S AND ALCOHOL.

THIS WILL NOT HAVE RESTAURANT.

WE FREE BREAKFAST.

BUT NO, WE'RE NOT SERVING ALCOHOL.

WE'RE NOT HAVE A, IT'S NOT A RESTAURANT INSIDE OF IT.

IT'S NOT A FULL SERVICE.

UH, TRASH PICKUP, YOU KNOW.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, THE DUMPSTER, AT ONE POINT, THE DUMPSTER WAS ALL THE WAY DOWN IN THE BOTTOM AND THE ARCHITECT AND I BOTH LAUGHED AT THAT IDEA.

UH, SO NOW IT'S ALL THE WAY UP AT THE TOP, UM, WHICH IS NORTH OF THE HOTEL, UH, TOWARDS THE BANK.

SO, UM, WHILE WE'RE HERE, UM, OOH, I COULD BE DANGEROUS WITH THIS.

UH, MAYBE YES.

THAT DRIVEWAY IS, AS BRITTANY MENTIONED, IS, IS WE'RE, WE'RE CONNECT I DON'T THINK ORIGINALLY WE HAD A CONNECTION THERE.

UM, AND, AND THE STAFF SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY NEED TO CONNECT THERE.

AND WE DO FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT REASONS TOO.

SO AGAIN, THAT DRIVEWAY IS, IS WE'RE DISCONNECTING TO WHAT WAS APPROVED.

OH GEE, LOOK WHERE THEIR DUMPSTER IS.

ANYWAY, UH, JUST SAYING SOMETIMES IT WORKS FOR THE SITE PLAN, DOESN'T IT? UH, TRAFFIC ON GRAY SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

UM, AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC'S THERE.

OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA GET WORSE WHEN, WHEN THE RETAIL NEXOS IS GONNA GET BUILT.

'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

UM, THE ENTRANCE, UH, WE MENTIONED, UM, THE EIGHT FOOT WALL AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THE WALL WHEN WE BUILD IT, UH, PROPERTY.

THE SALEABILITY.

I, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT YOU CAN'T JUDGE.

YOU KNOW, I COULD LOOK AT ALL THE STATISTICS AND I COULD THROW YOU NUMBERS ABOUT, I LOOKED AT THIS AND VALUE, AND THIS AGAIN, THE VALUE'S GONNA GO UP.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, IF I HAD A HUNDRED PEOPLE LOOK AT MY HOUSE AND I, I'M FORTUNATE WHERE I LIVE, I TWO CHURCHES BACK UP TO ME SOME COMMERCIAL.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL STAY THAT WAY.

I GUESS IF YOU DIDN'T WANT A CHURCH, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF, IF, IF I WENT THROUGH, IF, IF A HUNDRED PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THE HOUSE HE HAD FOR SALE, 98 OF 'EM PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT, OR 50 OF 'EM MIGHT WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

BUT 50 COULD HAVE A PROBLEM.

THAT HOTEL MM-HMM .

AND I, I, OKAY.

I CAN'T GET OUTTA THAT.

SORRY.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA, AGAIN, BLOW SMOKE, UH, 40 YEARS IN THE HOUSE THAT I, THAT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, WE DON'T SEE THAT NOWADAYS.

AND I'VE ONLY LIVED IN MY HOUSE 28 YEARS MM-HMM .

SO I'M, I'LL PROBABLY NOT CATCH UP.

I THINK THAT ANSWERS ALL OF 'EM.

DECREASE IN QUALITY.

UM, AGAIN, HILTON KEEPS UP WITH THEIR PEOPLE.

HILTON FRANCHISE WENT AWAY, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE SUP? THE SUP WOULD STILL STAND AND WE WOULD TREAT IT AS IT WAS ADOPTED AS A MID, MID-SCALE, UH, HOTEL.

UM, IF THE QUALITY GOES DOWN, THEY LOSE THEIR FRANCHISE.

AND I, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW IF HE LOST HIS FRANCHISE.

WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL DO ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

MOST, I'LL BE HONEST, MOST CITIES, GRAND PRAIRIE IS THE ONLY CITY I KNOW THAT HAS A SCALE AND FOUR OUT OF FIVE OR FIVE OUT OF FOUR OR EVEN REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FRANCHISE AND RATING THEM AND STUFF.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRUE

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UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH REGARD TO, UH, HOW THE BUILDING DETERIORATES.

OH, SURE.

SO THAT'S WHEN OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT WOULD PROBABLY GET INVOLVED.

AND HIS EMAIL IS J-O-H-N-L-O-P-E-Z, JOHNLOPEZ@GPTX.ORG.

HILTON OR HYATT OR WHOEVER.

YOU STILL HAVE THAT CONCERN? YEAH.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW.

I I, TO BE HONEST, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOMEONE'S SU 'CAUSE OF BRAND WENT AWAY.

'CAUSE IF HILTON WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, HE'D GOT, UH OH.

UH, ROUGHLY ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.

I TRY MY BEST.

NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

NO MORE PARTS, MA'AM.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

I WANNA TALK TO ALL THREE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME.

AND, UM, AND PLEASE KNOW, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD AND I, I FEEL THAT IT PROBABLY IS VERY SIMILAR, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ALMOST ALL HOMEOWNERS HERE.

AND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING AND BRINGING TO US ARE SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND I KNOW THAT YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, JOHN LOPEZ, WANTS TO HEAR FROM YOU.

THAT'S WHERE THE DECISION IS GONNA BE FINALLY MADE.

WE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION HERE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS AFTER TONIGHT.

AND SO IF YOU DON'T AND HAVEN'T MET JOHN LOPEZ, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SHOOT HIM AN EMAIL.

YOU CAN ALSO FIND THAT ON THE GPTX WEBSITE.

LOOK AT THE COUNCILMAN, UM, OR COUNCIL PERSON, UH, LIST.

BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE WILL HAVE FEELINGS, STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT, AND NOT BOTHER TO GET OUT OF THEIR SEATS AT HOME TO COME AND SPEAK, UM, THEIR MIND.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I DO REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT.

IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

PLEASE REACH OUT TO JOHN MM-HMM .

AND THE WHOLE COUNSEL.

SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MYSELF, CHERYL SMITH, COMMISSIONER CHERYL SMITH, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TY CHAPMAN TO DENY, UH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR CASE BASED ON THE DRC RECOMMENDATION AND BASED ON THE HOMEOWNER INPUT THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY SUBMITTED.

I WILL NOTE THAT I ALREADY FORWARDED THE OPPOSITION LETTERS AND, AND NOTE OF OPPOSITION TO MR. LOPEZ.

SO HE IS FULLY AWARE.

SINCE THIS IS MY DISTRICT, I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO JOHN SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THIS CASE, AND I DO, UH, HAVE HIS SENTIMENTS ON THIS ONE.

AND MY, UH, BEFORE WE VOTE, MY, UH, BID IS TO DENY THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO I HAVE TALKED TO JOHNS EX EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THIS, UH, CASE ALREADY AND HE IS AWARE OF EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, SO HE'S BEEN FORWARDED TWICE WITH REGARD TO THIS.

'CAUSE WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT.

THAT'S ONE THING I TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE I'M IN FULL, YOU KNOW, I DISCUSS WITH THE PERSON THAT I'M REPRESENTING.

SO THAT BEING SAID, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? THIS, I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY I AM, I WILL DEFER.

IT IS YOUR DISTRICT, I'LL DEFER TO YOUR JUDGMENT AND COUNCILMAN LOPEZ'S JUDGMENT ON THIS MATTER.

IF I MAY ASK, WHAT DO Y'ALL SEE AS THE LONG-TERM USE OF THAT PROPERTY GOING FORWARD? WHAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE USE THERE? OR IS IT GOING TO BE EMPTY FOREVER? UH, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T HAVE THE SAVVY TO ANSWER THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS, 30 YEARS.

I RESPECT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN THAT AREA THAT LONG.

AND FOR THE MOMENT, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY, UH, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH HOTELS, UH, IN THAT AREA, I, I'M, I'M GOING WITH THE DRC RECOMMENDATION THAT FOR NOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REVISIT IT.

BUT FOR NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXCESS OF HOTELS IN THE AREA.

AND, UH, I, I JUST DON'T SEE A REASON TO DO THAT.

AND FOR THAT GENTLEMAN TO OPEN HIS BACK DOOR AND SEE A FOUR STORY, UH, HOTEL, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

AND THEN ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS SAID THAT SHE ALREADY HAS FLOODING, UH, YOU KNOW, ALREADY.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS WHEN YOU START BUILDING UP MORE CONCRETE AND, AND MORE BUILDUP.

WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? YOU KNOW? SO I, I THINK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF GRAND PRAIRIE, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, FOR NOW, WE HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS IN THAT AREA THAT'S JUST, YOU CAN VOTE ANY WAY YOU'D LIKE.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY HERE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.

YOUR CONSCIOUS, MY CONSCIOUS, MY VOTE IS THAT I AM GOING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, BUT THE MOTION MAY NOT PASS, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT I THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST FROM, FROM MYSELF AND, AND FOR MY COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE I LIVE.

SO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.

THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM SUP 2 4 0 9 0 0 3 7 FOR THE TRUE BY HILTON, UM, BASED ON THE DRC RECOMMENDATIONS AND BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UM, BY THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT AREA.

I SECOND IT, I SECOND THAT.

WHICH

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MOTION AND CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

[7. TAM-24-09-0009 - Text Amendment - Article 8, Section 16: Tree Protection and Mitigation. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, Amending Article 8, Section 16: Tree Protection and Mitigation of the Unified Development Code; Repealing all Ordinances or Parts of Ordinances in Conflict Herewith; Containing a Savings Clause and a Severability Clause; and Establishing the Effective as the Date of Passage and Approval]

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, TM 24 0 9 0 0 0 9, WHICH IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO OUR UDC, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 16 REGARDING TREE PROTECTION AND MITIGATION.

SO THIS REQUEST IS TO ESTABLISH HOW THE URBAN FOREST FUND, WHICH IS BASICALLY A COLLECTION OF ALL THE TREE MITIGATION FEES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS CAN BE SPENT TO, UH, PLANT AND CARE FOR THE TREES IN PUBLIC SPACES, PARKS, AND CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

SO WE ARE REMOVING SOME LANGUAGES THAT, UH, PROHIBITS THESE MONIES FROM BEING SPENT, UM, ELSEWHERE OTHER THAN, UH, PLANTING OF TREES.

AND THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY ADDING MORE LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY.

THE, THE FUNDING CAN, UH, BE USED FOR PLANTING, REPLACING TREES AND TO, UH, INSTALL IRRIGATIONS AND TO REPAIR THEM AND TO FUND THE TREE MITIGATION STUDIES.

THIS CLEANUP ALSO INCLUDES A FEW MINOR CLEANUPS, SUCH AS DEFINING A PUBLIC TREE, ADDING MORE, UH, UNPROTECTED TREES AND ADDING CLARIFYING LANGUAGE, WHICH I'LL POINT OUT.

THE NON DISTURBANCE AREA SHOWN WITH THE LOWER CASE HERE WILL BE ALL UPDATED WITH, UM, UPPER CASES FOR THE N AND D AND DA TO MATCH OUR DEFINITION.

AGAIN, THIS IS TO HELP OUR PARKS DEPARTMENTS SPEND OF URBAN FOREST FUND TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THEY'RE PLANNING ON FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE OF SOME OF THE PUBLIC SPACES AND THE TREES IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THE RC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? WE WENT IN DETAIL ON THIS IN THE BOARD BRIEFING.

IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO, I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES WITH THE CASES AND GOING FORWARD.

THEY TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, DO A LOT OF DETAILED WORK SO WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

AND THINK, I MEAN, GIVE, IT GIVES MORE CLARITY TO MAKING A DECISION AND THAT THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES BECAUSE THAT MEANS THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE, A LOT OF RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UH, COLLABORATION TO GET THAT DONE.

AND, AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT, DON'T WE? WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.

LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND.

WE DO.

WE DO IT.

IT REALLY, OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE REALLY LOOKING UP, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, AND EVERYTHING IS, IS PRESENTED VERY WELL.

SO WE, WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

CAN I, UH, ANY, ANY THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN GOTTA GET, GET A MOTION, COMMISSIONER.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ON TM DASH 24 DASH NINE DASH 0 0 9, TEXT AMENDMENT, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 16, TREE PROTECTION AND MITIGATION.

AND APPROVE IT, UM, AS WRITTEN.

I SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER, UM, MICHELLE MADDEN, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UH, CHRISTOPHER O COLEY.