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BOW, WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 21ST, 2024.I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THE STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS 5:35 PM THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND VIEWS THE CA PREVIEWS.
THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THAT BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN DURING THE ACTUAL BRIEFING.
I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I SAY YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE, JUST LIKE THIS.
ERIC KADE WAS HERE AND VANISHED.
WE DO HAVE NINE PRESENT, A FULL BOARD.
UH, LET THE REFLECT RECORD REFLECT.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK SO THAT YOU CAN BE HEARD ON THE RECORD AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, TRANSCRIBED FOR ANY LEGAL PURPOSES.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE CASES.
SALVADOR, ARE YOU GONNA START US OFF? I THINK WE WOULD PUSH IT TO TABLE THE FIRST ONE.
WHICH IS ODD BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER AND STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS.
UH, STAFF NEEDED SOME MORE TIME TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT.
'CAUSE HAD WE HAD, WE HAD OUR STUFF TOGETHER IN SEPTEMBER, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT, BUT OKAY.
EVERY, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE ON ON THAT ONE.
THE NEXT CASE WE HAVE IS A GARAGE CONVERSION.
UH, THIS CASE IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS IS EBA 24 DASH OHA DASH 0 0 4 3.
AND THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT 1706 PISCES AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY FOUR RESIDENTIAL, AND AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION, UH, OR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE, ONE OF THEM BEING, IS THAT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION MUST HAVE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND THE IMAGE ON SCREEN DISPLAYS SOME OF THOSE, UH, LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERGENCE WITHIN, UH, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS BEING THE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND ANOTHER IS WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE, UH, ONE WITHIN, UH, 800 FEET AND, EXCUSE ME, 300 FEET.
AND, UH, THERE WAS NONE WITHIN 300 FEET.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE OTHER MATERIALS.
SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? 409 FEET AWAY IS ONE.
AND SO THIS IS A SITE PLAN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WITH GARAGE CONVERSIONS, WE USUALLY JUST SEE THE LAYOUT OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED CONVERSION ELEVATIONS.
AND SO THIS IS A SRI IMAGE, UH, PICTURE OF THE, UH, ACTUAL PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE DRIVEWAY THERE.
SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO PLAY, UH, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO IS THAT OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT.
SO IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, 56 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S, UH, NHOA WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OBJECTION AND WE HAVE TALKED, UH, TO THE APPLICANT.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MUST WORK WITH HOA, WHICH CAN COME AT A LATER STAGE.
AND AS FAR AS THE REQUEST FOR ZBA 24 DASH OHA DASH 0 0 4 3 STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT.
AND I CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU TAKE US BACK TO THE DRIVEWAY PICTURE? YES.
YOU LEANED INTO THAT PRETTY HEAVY, HEAVY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BRIEFING.
IS THAT TWO SLOTS SIDE BY SIDE, OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO NOSE TO TAIL ON THE DRIVEWAY? NO, THEY WILL HAVE ENOUGH AMPLE PARKING FRONT TOO.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE ON THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? YES.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DEEP ENOUGH TO COVER AT LEAST ONE ROW OF CARS.
IF NOT, THAT IS CORRECT, MR. CHAIR.
SO, SO ALL STREET PARKING IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
THEY HAVE THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THEY DO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT ON THIS CASE? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? OKAY.
LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO SIT SITUATE.
YOU JUST STARTED OFF WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, IF I'M LOOKING AT PICTURES WRONG, I DON'T KNOW
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WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE.NO, I, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO LIKE TO CHECK AND VERIFY, AND THEY DO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
MOVE US ON TO THE NEXT CASE, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON YOUR AGENDA, ZPA 24 DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 4 4.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT SIX 30 DORIS DRIVE.
AND THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, THIS IMAGE SHOWS SOME OF THE LEGALLY PERMITTED GARAGE CONVERSIONS WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR SUBDIVISION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE NOT, UH, MEETING THAT 300 FOOT REQUIREMENT ONE, BUT THERE ARE SOME WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO THIS GARAGE CONVERSION HAS BEEN, UH, OR IS EXISTING.
UM, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN SOME OF THE PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY FROM THE APPLICANT'S.
AND THIS IS SOME IMAGES FROM THE INSIDE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY PUT A WALL THERE AND DIVIDED IT AND PUT SOME ROOMS. SO REGARDING THIS, THIS REQUEST, 43 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ZERO RETURN TO IN FAVOR OR POST.
AND THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE AN HOA.
UM, AND AS FAR AS EBA 24 DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 4 4 STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MS. HAIER, IF THIS WERE NOT TO PASS, THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
SO IF THIS, IF YOU WERE NOT TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT GETTING SOME TYPE OF WORK DONE TO UNDO THIS TYPE OF WORK.
LEGALLY SPEAKING, I'M NOT SURE TO WHAT EXTENT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF THAT.
AND I'LL LET OUR ATTORNEY ADDRESS THAT.
SO ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY HAVE DONE ILLEGALLY WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND SO THEY HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST.
THEY HAVE NO ENTITLEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, LEGALLY THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE THE CHANGE.
SO IF THIS WERE DENIED, THEN THEY COULD BE ISSUED CITATIONS, ENFORCEMENT ACTION COULD BE TAKEN TO REQUIRE THEM TO RETURN IT TO THE CONDITION THAT IT SHOULD HAVE REMAINED IN UNTIL THEY GOT AUTHORIZATION TO CHANGE IT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, MS. EK, UM, WHEN YOU SHOW US THE PICTURE OF THE GREEN, OF THE ONES CLOSE TO IT, YOU, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT THESE ARE THE ONES LEGAL, BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES, ONES ALREADY THERE, IS WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THERE'S OTHERS ALREADY THERE MM-HMM
UH, HOW COME THIS ONE IS GOTTEN CITATION? IF THERE'S OTHERS ALREADY THERE? ILLEGAL.
AND SO THIS WAS ILLEGAL TOO? YES.
WHY ARE THEY BEING SINGLED OUT IF THERE'S OTHERS ALREADY THERE? ILLEGAL.
WHY IS THIS ONE RESIDENT BEING SINGLED OUT? I'M SORRY.
SO JUST TO BE, OR JUST TO MAKE A CORRECTION.
THE ONES REPRESENTED BY THE BLUE CIRCLES ARE LEGALLY PERMITTED.
BUT I THOUGHT YOU, I THOUGHT YOU IMPLIED THERE'S LEGAL.
I THOUGHT YOU IMPLIED THERE'S OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH TO THAT I'M, THAT MEANS TO ME THEY'RE NOT LEGAL.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES MM-HMM
WHEN YOU DO THIS, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER HOUSES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS TOO.
SO YOU HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW IF THEY'RE DONE ILLEGALLY AND NO PERMITS WERE PULLED.
WHAT'S BEHIND THE DOOR? BEHIND THE WALL AS FAR AS THE LEGAL CONVERSIONS? I'M NOT SURE OF WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT HAVE BEEN DONE LEGALLY.
SO DID SOMEBODY TURN THESE PEOPLE IN? IT WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE, YES.
JUST CURIOUS, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WHAT GO MS. KOKA FIRST AND THEN, UM, IS THIS ALL, UM, HOME IN AN HOA? THIS ONE IS NOT IN AN HOA IN HOA.
BECAUSE MY WONDERING IS, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN AN HOA AND THEY HAVE A NEWSLETTER, IT'S GREAT FOR THEM TO CONTINUOUSLY PUBLISH, YOU KNOW, PUBLISH.
HEY, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE THINKING IN THE FUTURE HAVING A GARAGE OR SOMETHING, MAKE SURE YOU VISIT WWW DOT GPA IS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND PROCEDURES.
'CAUSE MANY TIMES THIS FAMILY DID THE CONVERSION.
THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID IT AFTER.
SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF MAYBE JUST CONTINUE TO HAVE THE WORD OUT THERE, EITHER THROUGH HOAS, EVEN THROUGH THE PITS, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, OR EVEN THROUGH US AS COMMUNITY SERVICE OR, UM, SOMETHING WE HAVE THOSE FREE ADVERTISEMENTS.
HEY, BY THE WAY, BEFORE YOU DO THIS, MAKE SURE YOU FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES ON LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
UH, THE OTHER THING, BARRY, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, UM, I WANNA THINK 1996 WAS THE YEAR THAT THEY STARTED PUTTING THESE IN THE COMPUTER.
ANYTHING, SO ANYTHING DONE BEFORE THAT? WE HAVE NO RECORDS.
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AND THIS IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I SUSPECT A LOT OF THOSE MAY HAVE DONE PREVIOUS TO 96.A LOT OF THE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, IT, IT'S HARD TO TRACK WHAT THEY HAVE AND HAVEN'T DONE.
THESE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS, OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S A LOT OF GARAGE CONVERSIONS BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE LOOKS LIKE WHAT THEY DID INSIDE IS NICE.
BUT SOMEBODY, IT'S FAIRLY, THE, THE WORKS, THE WORK'S NEW, OBVIOUSLY.
SOMEBODY COMPLAINED 20 YEARS AGO.
THEY GOT, THEY GOT, THEY GOT CAUGHT UP.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE COURSES OF ACTIONS THAT THEY CAN TAKE TO COME BEFORE ZBA AND TAKE THEIR CHANCES AND SEE IF THEY GET APPROVED.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS WHETHER THE WORK'S DONE OR NOT, I KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, THERE WAS A BIG THING ON BEING PUNITIVE.
AND I, IT'S MY OPINION AND THING THAT IT'S NOT REALLY THIS BOARD'S AUTHORITY TO BE PUNITIVE.
THEY, WE USED TO DO WEIRD STUFF LIKE DOUBLE FEES AND ALL KINDS OF APPLICATION FEES.
WE EITHER GIVE AN UP DOWN, WE HEAR THE CASE BEFORE, THAT'S WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO OUT AND SURVEY THE LAND.
LOOK AT THE PROPERTY BEFOREHAND.
WE ONLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TABULAR JUST IN BETWEEN GAVEL IN PUBLIC HEARING, GAVEL OUT.
AND WE DON'T PROVIDE TESTIMONY.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T HEAR THE CASE AND TESTIFY IN THE CASE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I THINK WE KIND OF ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GOT HERE.
AND THE MOST EXCITING THING FOR ME IS I GOT NINE PEOPLE HERE TO VOTE.
SO LET 'EM TAKE A CRACK AND, AND IF THEY CAN GET SEVEN FOR A VARIANCE, SO BE IT.
IF NOT, THEN THAT'S THE CITY AND THE STAFF'S CHALLENGE TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEP.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF COURSES OF ACTION.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND IT, MAYBE IT'S STAFF, MAYBE IT'S COUNSELOR.
IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING WHERE TO CHANGE IT FROM 300 FEET TO 500 FEET? IS THAT A CHANGE IN THE UNIFIED UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE? THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE? CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL WOULD VOTE ON THAT.
IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE RECOMMENDED BY THE CCDC GO TO PNZ FOR REVIEW AND THEN TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, TO KEEP IN MIND, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT SOMETHING MAY COME BEFORE Y'ALL.
AS IN IT MAY COME TO CODE ENFORCEMENT'S ATTENTION.
SOMETIMES IT'S FROM A COMPLAINT.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE OUT THERE ON ONE OF THE OTHER INSPECTIONS THEY DO FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS OR GROUP HOMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF REASONS WHY CODE ENFORCEMENT MAY COME TO A LOCATION THAT PROMPTS THEM TO DO SOME TYPE OF AN INSPECTION WHERE THEY FIND THAT RULES HAVE BEEN VIOLATED AND THEY TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
AND ANYTIME THEY DO THAT, THEY WILL ALWAYS THEN, UM, REFER IT TO ZBA IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE A VARIANCE WOULD BE NEEDED TO TAKE THE ACTION THAT THEY'VE TAKEN.
AND, AND AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS ONE OF THE COURSES OF ACTION COME BEFORE AND SEE IF YOU GET A VARIANCE OR AN ADJUSTMENT GRANTED, WE'RE WE'LL BE AND GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
TIMOTHY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES.
MY QUESTION IS TO STAFF, WHAT ROLE DOES STAFF ACTUALLY PAY IN OBJECTING TO OR NOT IN THIS TYPE OF A SITUATION? YOU SAID WHAT ROLE, WHAT ROLE DOES THE STAFF PLAY IN OBJECTING TO OR NOT OBJECTING TO IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO AS STAFF, WE TRY TO LOOK AT, UH, A VARIETY OF THINGS.
LIKE TIFFANY MENTIONED OUR COUNSEL HERE.
SOMETIMES THE CASE COMES ABOUT THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AVENUES.
SOMETIMES IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT, SOMETIMES IT'S A COMPLAINT.
AND SO THAT KIND OF PLAYS INTO IT AS WELL.
WE TRY TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH AND SEE WHAT EXACTLY IS THE CASE.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, AS STEPHANIE MENTIONED, IF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A GROUP, GROUP HOME SITUATION THAT MIGHT BE CHANGING STATS OF RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO IT JUST PLAYS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FACTORS, BUT WE TRY TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
MR. BAKER, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD TO THAT? NO.
ZONING COULD HAVE JUST DRIVING BY AND THEY COULD HAVE BEEN, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? THEY COULD HAVE BEEN DRIVING BY AND THEY COULD HAVE BEEN, SAW 'EM DOING THE WORK IN AND OUT OR SOMETHING, WORKING ON IT, AND HE STOPPED WANTING TO, JUST CHECKING OUT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO TELLING HOW THIS CAME OUT.
WELL, THERE ARE SIGNS IN THE DOING SOMETHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BRIEFING PORTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE? ARE WE GOOD? WE ALL SAID WE NEED TO, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
THAT IS THE LAST OF THE CASES WE HAVE NOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS BEING THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING AND IT BEING ELECTION SEASON, WE KIND OF NEED TO DO ELECTION OF OFFICERS SINCE WE'VE BEEN JUST KIND OF TROLLING AROUND SINCE, UH, SINCE AUGUST WITH THIS.
SO WHEN THE TIME COMES DURING OUR OPEN MEETING, WE'LL DO ELECTION OFFICERS.
WE NEED A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR AND TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE ARE ON WEIRD STAGGERED CYCLES
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BECAUSE GENERALLY WE GET APPOINTED, BUT WE COULD DO TWO YEAR TERMS AND WE CAN DO THREE OF THOSE TWO YEAR TERMS, OR THEY CAN EXTEND YOU ON THAT.I'M IN THE EXTENSION WAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT MY TERM IS UP NEXT JUNE.
UH, 'CAUSE MR. LOPEZ APPOINTED ME.
SO IF, IF NOT APPOINTED, AGAIN, I'M, AND IF I'M CHAIR NOW, IF YOU GUYS VOTE FOR ME TO BE CHAIR FOR ANOTHER, UH, FOR A YEAR, YOU'LL BE DOING THIS GAME AGAIN NEXT SUMMER.
OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T GET TOO COMPLICATED, BUT, UH, HEY, IT'S ELECTION SEASON LOTS.
IF, DO I NEED TO GO GET A JOB AT MCDONALD'S JUST IN CASE? YES.
WELL, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND END THE BRIEFING NOW SINCE COUNCIL'S LIKE, PLEASE DON'T DO POLITICAL JOKES WHILE THE MIC'S ARE ON
WE WILL RECONVENE AT SIX O'CLOCK.
BUT I AM CONCERNED, DEBBIE, THAT YOU, SHE SAYS THAT, BUT SHE DOESN'T MEAN IT.
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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2024.I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 6:01 PM THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT ON ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF QUORUM AFTER CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.
SO WE HAVE, WE'RE MISSING MELINDA ROGERS HERE.
THEY, THEY SWITCHED THE TWO PAGES.
IT THROWS ME OFF ON, I CAN'T ACT LIKE THIS NOW.
DAVID BAKER WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION DEARLY.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING ABLE TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
LORD, I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MEMBERS THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT.
AND, UH, HELP US TO BE HONEST AND FAITHFUL WITH CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
THIS GREAT CITY IN, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WE'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
RIGHT AT THE TOP, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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OUR FIRST ACTION BY THE NIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING FROM AUGUST 19TH, 2024.ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 19TH, 2024.
WELL, I GOT A SECOND FROM MS. COCA, BUT I'M ON, THIS IS YOUR ADVISORY HERE.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER, A SECOND FROM MS. COCA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
MOTION PASSES NINE TO ZERO, WHICH
[2. ZBA-24-08-0042 (Council District 5) – Variance to reduce the minimum side yard setback for a primary structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 613 NE 33rd St., legally described as Lot 606, Burbank Gardens Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]
WILL TAKE US TO THE ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION BY THE, FROM THE, UH, COUNSEL THAT WE TABLE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER, A SECOND FROM MS. ROGERS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
NINE TO ZERO BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT CASE.
CAN ON THE AGENDA, UH, MS CAN I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, WAS THAT TABLING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING? YES.
THAT IS TABLING THAT NEXT MEETING.
TABLED THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024 MEETING.
DID DO NOT SAY THE FULL END 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH.
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AS MODIFICATION, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, WE'RE TABLING FOR NO.BUT NOW WE'VE GOTTEN IT, THE HORSE PRETTY MUCH FEET TO DEATH.
[3. ZBA-24-08-0043 (Council District 3) Special exception for a garage conversion, located at 1706 Pisces Ave., legally described as Lot 22, Block 1, Mountain Lakeview South Addition No.2, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]
US TO THE NEXT CASE BEFORE US S YOU READY? BRING US TO 43.LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SET A SPEED RECORD HERE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
SEE IF I CAN JUST GIVE ONE SECOND.
SORRY, OPERATING LEFT HAND HERE.
THE FIRST ITEM STAFF IS PRESENTING TONIGHT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 0 4 3.
AS MENTIONED DURING BRIEFING, THIS IS A GARAGE CONVERSION, UH, OR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1706 PISCES AVENUE.
AND THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY FOUR RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE LOOK FOR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SUCH A REQUEST TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD IS THE REQUIREMENT OF TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UH, EXACTLY THAT TO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE IMAGE ON SCREEN SHOWS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING LEGALLY CONVERTED GARAGES INTO LIVING QUARTERS.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS NOT ONE WITHIN 300 FEET, WHICH IS THE SECOND REQUIREMENT THAT STAFF LOOKS AT IT.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE A PROPOSED, UH, FLOOR PLAN ON THE SCREEN.
IN ADDITION, SOME PROPOSED ELEVATIONS, DRAWINGS, ELEVATION, DRAWINGS, AND THEN THIS IS A STREET IMAGE VIEW OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY IN QUESTION WITH THE EXISTING PARKING IN QUESTION.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE THAT AMPLE PARKING, UH, IN THAT FRONT DRIVEWAY.
AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE FROM THIS IMAGE.
BUT, UH, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK CLOSELY, THAT'S THE, UH, AREA THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO CLOSE UP THOSE TWO GARAGE BAYS IN.
SO IN REGARDS TO ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 4 3, SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION, 56 NOTICES WERE UNTIL ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR POST.
AND THE SLIGHT CORRECTION, THERE IS NOT AN H HO IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
SO IN REGARDS TO THAT, UH, ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 4 3 STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE ITEM AS REQUESTED.
AND I CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY RIGHT.
QUESTIONS TO STAFF, TO MY LEFT.
I HAVE DOWN HERE THE APPLICANT IS CELIA RODRIGUEZ, BUT I DON'T HAVE A CARD ON CELIA RODRIGUEZ, BUT I DO HAVE A CARD FOR ROSA TREVINO OR ZO.
UM, ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? I'M THE, UH, DAUGHTER OF, DAUGHTER OF, MM-HMM.
IS CELIA HERE IN THE ROOM? YES, SHE'S HERE, BUT SHE'S, UH, LEGALLY BLIND, SO.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD OR DO YOU JUST WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS? UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK OR ARE YOU OKAY? WE'RE OKAY.
BUT I, I AM GOING TO MENTION THAT ROOSEVELT HAD A CARD IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE.
SO WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE RECORD FOR MS. ROSA.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE? MS. RODRIGUEZ, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SUPPORT OF THIS CASE.
YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE APPLICANT? YES.
UM, ANYONE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE IN THE ROOM? SEEING NONE, I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
IF NOT, I'LL, UH, DISCUSSION ON OUR BOARD.
SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 4 0 8 0 0 4 3 SECOND.
DOUBLE SECOND AS WE LIKE TO HAVE
A SECOND FROM MS. EK, NO CASH.
UH, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ANY DISCUSSION IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
[4. ZBA-24-08-0044 (Council District 3) Special exception for a garage conversion, located at 630 Dorris Dr., legally described as Lot 23, Block 26, Inglewood Park Addition No.3, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three Residential District]
NEXT CASE UP, SALVADOR.MOVING ON TO YOUR, UH, NEXT PRESENTATION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN YOUR AGENDA.
THIS IS ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 0 4 4.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT SIX 30 DORIS DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES THAT WE LOOK FOR.
ON SCREEN, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE A GENERAL, UH, MAP OF SOME OF THE LEGALLY PERMITTED, PERMITTED, EXCUSE ME, UH, GARAGE GARAGES WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INTO LIVING QUARTERS.
SO THIS WORK HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY.
AND THIS WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US, UH, ON BEHALF OF STAFF.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS
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ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT.AND AS MENTIONED DURING BRIEFING, THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM THE INSIDE OF THE HOME PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND THERE WAS, UH, A WALL INSTALLED THERE IN THE MIDDLE REGARDING ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH EIGHT DASH 0 0 4 4 43.
NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR OF OPPOSED.
AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ONLY THING I WANNA REITERATE, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT.
CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? NOT OBJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? THANK YOU, SALVADOR.
I'VE SEEN HER TWICE IN A ROW NOW.
I KNOW YOU FILLED OUT HERE IF NECESSARY TO SPEAK, BUT BOY, I WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.
SO IF YOU WOULD COME ON DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE, I DO IT.
YOU JUST WANTED TO HEAR MY VOICE.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE HAD THIS RELATIONSHIP FOR SO LONG.
NOW START OFF WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
I RESIDE AT THREE 10 CRESCENT, THREE BLOCKS UP THE HOUSE IN QUESTION IS SIX 30 WEST NORTH DRIVE.
AND THE TENANT HAD REQUESTED THAT SHE BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
I SAID, FINE, AS LONG AS YOU GET ALL THE PERMITS, YOU GET ALL THE WORK.
I LEARNED A LESSON AND THEN I GOT A NOTICE FROM Y'ALL SAYING, UH, NO PERMITS WE'RE GIVEN.
SO I MADE ALL THE PHONE CALLS UP THE CHAIN HERE AT THE CITY HALL AND I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND, UH, THEY SAID, FINE, WE'LL JUST GO IN AND LOOK AT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN OKAY, WELL, PROVIDING THAT IT PASSES, PROVIDING IT PASSES HERE, RIGHT? YES.
I THINK WE ALL UP HERE WANTED, I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WHO BLEW, LIKE I SAID, I, YOU KNOW, WHO SOLD YOU OUT, WHO CALLS YOU IN? BUT NOW WE, YOU HAD A TENANT WHO JUST WENT AHEAD AND SAID, SAID, TRUST ME, TENANT THAT WAS ANXIOUS TO DO THE WORK AND IT WAS ON HER DOLLARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I MEAN, IT'S FINE.
SHE'S IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING THE HOUSE IN THREE YEARS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.
AND THERE IS A GARAGE CONVERSION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD SAID THAT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO IT'S, YEAH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT KIND OF A VERY SMALL WINDOW WHERE THEY'RE, THEY START LOOKING AT 'EM AND SOME OF THEM ARE PERMITTED AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THEY POP UP AND IT HAPPENS.
BUT THE GUY IS REALLY NICE OF THESE
YOU DON'T WANT, DON'T, DON'T RAT HIM OUT HERE.
WE'RE ON THE MICROPHONE, NOT RATTING HIM OUT.
UM, SO I, LESSON LEARNED AND, UH, AND I APPLAUD YOU THAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, NOT ONLY ONCE, BUT TWICE TO GET UP HERE AND CLEAN IT UP AND, AND FIX IT.
SO NOW, YOU KNOW, WELL, THAT'S BEING A RESPONSIBLE LANDLORD.
HAS ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR BEAT RIGHT NOW? NO.
MS. GEARING? IT DOES, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS, SHE'S THE TOP.
SHE WORKS WITH MY HUSBAND, WHO'S A HOSPICE ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WE FELT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE WHOLE SITUATION, EXCEPT THAT IT BIT US IN THE BACK SIDE.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE GOT QUESTIONS FOR MS. GEARING? NO.
HI, JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
AND JUST MY COMMENT THAT, UH, IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE, UH, NEIGHBORS LIKE YOU THAT BRING IT UP.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A, A SUGGESTION THAT WE, THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS, SOMETIMES WE POST ON OUR WEBSITE.
HEY, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE, UM, OUT THERE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A GARAGE CONVERSION, PLEASE REMEMBER TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE AND STEP ONE, TWO, AND THREE, JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY INFORMED.
CAN I MAKE, THAT'S WHY, AND YOU PROBABLY GO ON, SO CAN I MAKE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMMENT? I HAVE BEEN BATTLING ENCORE ABOUT A POST
OH, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER ENCORE.
WE HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES OVER ENCORE.
I'VE THEM EVERY SINGLE WEEK BECAUSE IT'S, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU COME TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENT CARD AND SPEAK AT THE END OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.
WOULD IT DO ANY GOOD? WELL, GENERALLY THE COUNCIL IS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO YOU.
HOWEVER, YOU'D BE AMAZED AS YOU ARE TALKING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW QUICKLY THEY'RE STARING AT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO TALK TO THIS LADY AND SEE WHAT HER ISSUE IS.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GET INVOLVED.
YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
AND SO, WELL, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.
I MEAN, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU, YOU COME DO THIS AND, AND BRING IT UP.
'CAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T WANT YOU CATCHING UP.
ART AND STAFF CERTAINLY DON'T WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS FUSSING AT THEM.
UH, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ON THAT ISSUE.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY BEFORE US.
AND WHY DID WE JUST TAKE IT? NO, PLEASE PASS.
I'M GETTING, I'M GETTING GLARED AT BY COUNSELOR, SO I'LL GET US BACK TO THIS IF, UH, NOBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. GEARING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING UP, MA'AM.
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WE ARE GONNA VOTE AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE, AND I ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
SO I'M GONNA DISMISS YOU AND HAVE YOU SIT DOWN AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES IN THE
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NEXT THREE MINUTES.ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZBA 2 4 0 8 0 0 4 4? SEEING NONE.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE I ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 2 4 0 8 0 0 4 4.
MR. LANGSTON EVEN PRE SECONDED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TALKING.
THAT'S HOW EAGER HE WAS TO SECOND THIS.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FOR MS. LANGSTON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ONE.
[5. Election of Officers]
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ELECTION OF OFFICERS.ANYONE WISH TO MAKE A NOMINATION? WE NEED A CHAIR.
ANY VICE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, UH, I GUESS WE COULD REELECT YOU, I GUESS.
UM, ANY OTHER MOTIONS OR FOR ANY PERION PER CHAIR? ANY DISCUSSION ON CHAIR? SECOND.
AND I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MS. SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY, ANY ANYBODY GETTING NOMINATED FOR THAT? ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE MOTIONS LIKE DAVID? GO AHEAD.
THE MOTION THAT WE RETAIN PRESIDENT VICE.
HAVE DAVID BAKER AS VICE CHAIR.
YEAH, SHE'S, SHE'S PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH OVER THERE.
I WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, FOR MS. KIMMY.
OH, SO WE GOT A HEATED DEBATE.
OH, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS EXCITED.
SO ACTUALLY, HOW'S THAT WORK? THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO BEFORE A NEW MOTION VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION CAN BE ENTERTAINED.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION.
SO I BELIEVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WAS FOR DAVID BAKER TO BE THE VICE CHAIR.
SO Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
AND IF THAT SHOULD FAIL, THEN IF THAT MOTION FAILS, THEN YOU COULD VOTE ON ANOTHER MOTION.
NOW, DURING THE CONVERSATION, UM, AND DISCUSSION OF THAT MOTION, OTHER NOMINEES AND EVERYTHING COULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.
WHERE PEOPLE COULD EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS.
SO, SINCE I HEARD MS. ACHE GIVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION FOR MR. BAKKER AS VICE CHAIR, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
THE GOOD NEWS IS BOTH OF YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE 'CAUSE I'M IN BAD SHAPE AND FALL OUT OF BED.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE YEAR.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DAVID BAK AS VICE CHAIR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
IS IT A SUPER MAJORITY ON THESE OR NO? NO.
SO WE HAVE CHAIR, ADVISE CHAIR.
CASH WAS GONNA VOTE, BY THE WAY.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS? SINCE THEY'RE LEAVING THE ROOM? I'M THINKING NO, REAL QUICK.
CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT? ALL THOSE OPPOSED, OH, I'M SORRY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WE HAD FIVE.
ANY OPPOSED? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SO BY A COUNT OF FIVE TO THREE, WITH THE THREE ABSTENTIONS BEING KOKA, KIMBERLY RO OR NOT ABSTENTIONS, THE THREE NA VOTES WERE KOKA, KIMBERLY RO AND ANTHONY LANGSTON.
SO THE OFFICIAL VOTE FOR THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE SIX TO THREE BECAUSE SIX THREE, YOU CANNOT ABSTAIN SIX.
AND SO AN ABSTENTION ALLOWED WOULD BE TO BE SIX TO THREE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS MORE COMPLICATED, ALTHOUGH I'M, I'M GREAT WITH THE VOTE AND I'M GOOD WITH THE DECISION.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE, JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A MOTION PRESENTED, THAT SHOULDN'T MEAN THAT THERE COULDN'T BE ANOTHER MOTION FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO BE NOMINATED.
SO I DO QUESTION HOW THAT WORKS.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OFFICERS CAN BE ELECTED.
IN SOME INSTANCES, THE FLOORS OPEN FOR ALL NOMINEES.
IN OTHER INSTANCES IT'S DONE BY A MOTION FOR A PARTICULAR PERSON, FOR A PARTICULAR OFFICE.
AND HOW IT'S PRESENTED TO THE BOARD UNDER ROBERT'S RULES KIND OF DETERMINES HOW IT'S CONSIDERED AND HOW THAT'S DONE.
BUT TYPICALLY, WHENEVER THERE'S ACTUALLY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UM, THAT MOTION HAS TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ANOTHER MOTION CAN BE CONSIDERED.
SO THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT IT CAN BE DONE.
AND THE MOTION CAN ALSO BE REVISED, RIGHT? YOU CAN DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO A MOTION.
YOU COULD A, YOU COULD AMEND AN MOTION, CORRECT? THERE CAN
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BE, YOU CAN AMEND AN ACTIVE MOTION, IS MY QUESTION.YOU, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS TRANSLATED TO THE BOARD THAT A MOTION, THAT A MOTION COULD BE ADMITTED MOTION.
IT JUST SOUNDED LIKE YOU HAD A VOTE ON IT.
IF IT PASSED OR FAILED, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE A NEW MOTION.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS RELAYED TO THE BOARD IN A WAY THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER OPTION.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY'S POSITION.
I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE FACT THAT HE NOMINATED ME.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE CAN BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ROBERTS'S ORDER.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN HANDLE THAT.
WE PROBABLY DID DO THAT AS FLUIDLY AS I DON'T THINK WE DID.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT YOU CAN'T AMEND AN ACTIVE MOTION.
YOU CAN AMEND A MOTION OR I'M IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND WE FOLLOW ROBERT RE'S ORDER.
THERE, THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY, EVEN THOUGH A VOTE HAS BEEN TAKEN ON IT, IF SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THAT MOTION WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS MEETING AS WELL.
IF Y'ALL WANNA TRY TO DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
UM, I THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER OPTION.
LAST YEAR WE VOTED, BUT AFTER MORE DISCUSSION, I THINK WE'RE GETTING MORE OF A PICTURE TO IT.
AND I HAVE BROAD AUTHORITY ON THAT.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE? WHAT DO Y'ALL WANNA DO GOING FORWARD? WANNA RE VOTE? OR DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION.
BE, DOES A MOTION NEED TO BE MADE TO REOPEN IT? YEAH.
DO I AND SO I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO REOPEN.
IF I DON'T GET A MOTION IN A SECOND, THEN IT'LL JUST DIE.
SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE MOTION FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
TO, TO BE REVOLTED ON SECOND AND LANGSTON WILL SECOND IT.
SO IT, IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE MADE BY SOMEONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SOMEONE THAT VOTED, SOMEBODY THAT VOTED FOR IT WOULD HAVE TO ASK THAT IT BE RECONSIDERED.
UM, I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED.
IS THAT ANYMORE? ANYMORE INSTEAD OF YEAH.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE POINT.
BUT I THINK, UM, THERE SHOULD BE A LAY DOWN GUIDELINE, WHICH YOU HAVE MENTIONED.
DOES THIS ONE FALL WITHIN THAT GUIDELINE? HOW DOES IT WORK ON THE OTHER BOARD'S, COMMISSIONS.
EVERY, EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION DOES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SO EVERYONE DOES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
WE CAN MAKE A NOTE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, WHERE IN THE FUTURE THE FLOORS OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS.
AND THEN ONCE ALL NOMINATIONS ARE RECEIVED, THERE'S DISCUSSION AND VOTES MADE AT THAT TIME.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ALL THIS NEXT SUMMER ANYWAY, SO YEAH.
IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE VERBIAGE ON THIS, BUT I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO REOPEN THE FLOOR.
SO MS. ROGERS WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
SHE CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO REOPEN THE VOTE VICE CHAIR.
NOW, DO WE GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION FROM ANYONE OR HAS TO BE ALSO THE SAME? WOW, I'M MAKING THE COUNCIL WORK TONIGHT.
UM, BROADS CONVERSIONS WERE EASY COMPARED TO THAT.
I AM GOING TO BE HONEST, I AM NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THAT BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND MS. ROGERS.
DOING THE VICE CHAIR AGAIN, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY, AYE, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF OPENING UP THE VICE CHAIR AGAIN, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY NAY ONE AND TWO.
SO WE, THEY, WE ARE NOW OPEN IT BACK UP.
SO I'M GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB THIS TIME AND TALK ABOUT WE HAVE SEVERAL.
NO, WELL, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TWO NOMINEES FOR VICE CHAIR PROTOCOL ON HOW WE GO FORWARD.
'CAUSE JUST NOT THE FIRST ONE TO BLURT OUT A MOTION THAT SHOULDN'T GO LIKE THAT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF OKAY.
NOW THE MATH GETS COMPLICATED.
SEE WHAT I DO WHEN I GET ALL NINE OF
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YOU HERE, IT GETS ALL KINDS OF CHAOS.DO I HAVE A SECOND? FOR HONOR FROM ANYBODY? OTHERWISE THAT MOTION, IT'S NOMINATIONS.
WE'RE JUST CALLING NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.
SO WE HAVE THREE CANDIDATES NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR, KOCA, DAVID BAKER, KIMBERLY, I CAN RODEO.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? COME ON, DEBBIE.
YOU YOU'RE SEEING GREEN CIRCLES EARLIER.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHY NOT SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I TALK FAST AND DO GARAGE CONVERSIONS, KIMBERLY? SURE.
SO, UH, MY NAME IS KIMBERLY KIMRA DOYE.
I HAVE SERVED ON THE ZBA BOARD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
PRIOR TO SERVING ON ZBAI WAS ON THE HOUSING BOARD FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I'M ON SEVERAL, UH, DIFFERENT BOARDS AND ASSOCIATIONS INCLUDING THE YMCA ROTARY BOARD, UH, INTERNATIONAL GREEN PRAIRIE ON THE FRIDAY ROTARY.
MIGHT I MENTION, UM, I'M ALSO, UM, A TENURED EMPLOYEE FOR LOCKHEED MARTIN.
UH, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY VERY VESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IN THIS BOARD.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE MR. LANGSTON'S NOMINATION AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE.
I'M DAVID BAKER AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR I THINK ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS NOW.
AND, UH, I HAVE SERVED AS A VICE CHAIR FOR, UH, SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND I HAVE BEEN TO ALL THE MEETINGS EXCEPT FOR EITHER WHEN I WAS SICK OR OUT OF TOWN ON VACATION.
AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL TIMES WHEN BOARD MEMBERS DIDN'T SHOW UP LIKE THEY WERE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO.
AND, UH, I HAVE ALSO A PIT PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, UH, FOR LAKE PARKS WEST.
I'M A RETIRED PERSON WHO WORKED FOR 18 YEARS AT, UH, LOCKHEED MARTIN.
UM, AND, UH, I'VE ALSO WORKED AT A, AS A OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR AN ELECTRICAL COMPANY.
I'VE LIVED ALL MY LIFE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, AND SO I AM VERY VESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
I AM THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK,
MY NAME IS ANNA COKA AND I SERVED FOR THREE YEARS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING UNDER DISTRICT SIX AND LOVED, UH, TO SERVE THERE.
AFTER MY TERM ENDED, I WAS ASKED TO JOIN, UH, THIS WONDERFUL BOARD.
UM, I AM A BILINGUAL CERTIFIED TEACHER.
I HAVE BEEN IN EDUCATION FOR 28 YEARS, AND I AM THE NATIONAL LULAC ADVISOR FOR THE NATIONAL YOUTH.
AND I SERVE IN DIFFERENT COUNCILS HERE IN, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE.
I'M THE PAST PRESIDENT OF LULAC COUNCIL 2, 2, 2, 6 2.
AND I'M THE DISTRICT THREE SECRETARY.
SO I HAVE SERVED IN DIFFERENT BOARDS, INCLUDING THE DALLAS COUNTY, UH, UH, VOTING ELECTIONS OFFICE.
UM, I WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE YOUR VOTE.
AND AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE UP FOR VICE CHAIR.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GO JUST RIGHT DOWN THE LINE.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? YOU CAN OH, LOOK AT YOU LOOKING AT YOUR LAW, LAW BOOKS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
YEAH, I, I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT YOUR BYLAWS, WHICH SAID THAT IT IS DETERMINED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO ARE PRESENT AT THE MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, SO, SO YOU NEED FIVE VOTES TO BECOME VICE CHAIR.
I'M GONNA, I MEAN, WE CAN DO HAND VOTES, WE CAN DO VOICE VOTES, HAND VOTES, AND START.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MR. BAKER AS VICE CHAIR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, WHICH GETS US A COUNT OF SIX.
FIVE, NO, FIVE, SORRY, MY BAD.
UH, SO, WHICH GIVES US A MAJORITY, WHICH MISS, SO IS THERE A PERSON REASON TO DO OTHER VOTES? YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THE OTHER VOTES SINCE THE MAJORITY HAS VOTED FOR MR. BAKER.
SO I THINK WE'VE RESOLVED THIS BUSINESS, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY I RESPECT ALL OF YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU THAT SERVE IN ALL CAPACITIES.
I JUST DON'T WANNA DO THE PRAYER AND INVOCATION.
SO WE LET DAVID DO THAT PART
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WANTING TO SERVE.
AND LIKE I SAY, I'M GONNA ROTATE OUTTA HERE.
SO YOU GUYS, I WANNA KNOW THAT IT'S IN GOOD HANDS AND I FEEL BETTER AFTER TONIGHT KNOWING YOU GUYS ARE SHOWING UP AND TAKING CARE OF THIS THING SO THAT I CAN GO SICK QUIETLY.
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STEPHANIE.