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GOOD EVENING.[CALL TO ORDER ]
6:00 PM WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER OF THE BUILDING ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD.[1. Approval of Minutes for July 01, 2024 BAAB]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, JULY 1ST, 2024.I'LL LET THE BOARD HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO, UH, REVIEW THOSE MINUTES, AND THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME THREE NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, APRIL AVERY, GENEVA RID, AND JUAN MARTINEZ.
UH, I MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM JULY 1ST, 2024, AS IS.
HAVE A MOTION BY MS. OLIVER TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS AS PRESENTED.
ALL OPPOSED, THAT MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE OF, UH, EIGHT TO ZERO.
[2. Hearing concerning alleged Dangerous Structure located at 1215 E. Main St., Grand Prairie, Texas ]
THE AGENDA IS A HEARING CONCERNING ALLEGED DANGEROUS STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1215 EAST MAIN STREET HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF AT THIS TIME.
I'M A, I'M ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS HERE IN CO COMPLIANCE, AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, I GUESS GOING, GOING ON NINE YEARS NOW.
AND, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER, BUT I'M, I'M HERE.
SO, UH, SO THE FIRST ONE, UH, AND LAST ONE ACTUALLY FOR THIS MEETING IS THE PROPERTY HERE AT 1215 EAST MAIN STREET.
IT'S RIGHT, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE U-HAUL.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE U-HAUL IS, I BELIEVE, UH, ON MAIN STREET.
SO THIS IS NEXT DOOR JUST TO THE, TO THE EAST.
UH, THAT IT WAS FORMERLY A, A, A RESTAURANT, UH, A, A MEXICAN RESTAURANT, A TEX-MEX RESTAURANT.
I IMAGINE YOU COULD SAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.
IT'S BEEN VACANT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, BACK TO 2013.
UH, IT'S CHANGED OWNERSHIP, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN AT THIS BOARD IN THE PAST FOR THE SAME REASON UNDER PRIOR OWNERSHIP, UH, THAT PRIOR OWNERSHIP HAD THEN SOLD IT TO, UH, OLI MELENDEZ, WHO LIVES OUTTA STATE.
BUT SHE, WE HAVE AN ACQUAINTANCE HERE OF, OF THE OWNER.
AND I THINK THE OWNERS ARE ALSO, THAT HAS BEEN SORT OF THE LOCAL CONTACT.
UH, WE'VE, UH, OVER THE YEARS, UH, THE OWNER'S BEEN NON-RESPONSIVE TO OUR REQUEST TO SECURE THE PROPERTY, UH, MOW THE YARD PEOPLE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BREAKING INTO IT.
SO, UH, UH, WE'VE HAD TO SECURE IT ON MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TIMES.
I'VE GOT A LITTLE SUMMARY IN YOUR PACKET OF, UH, SORT OF OUTLYING WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO.
UH, WE SECURE IT, PEOPLE BREAK IN.
THE POLICE HAVE TO HELP US CLEAR IT OUT.
THEN WE HAVE TO SECURE IT AGAIN AND CLEAN UP.
UH, SO IT, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING THING.
AND THEN RECENTLY, UH, IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, THEY, THEY COME, THEY COME IN, THEY GO, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT HARD.
EVEN AFTER OUR CONTRACTOR SECURES THOSE SIDES, IS TO PRY THOSE DOORS OFF AND GET IN THE PLACE.
UH, FOLKS HAVE BEEN GOING IN AND USING IT AS A SHELTER.
UNHOUSED, HOMELESS THE LAST TIME, UH, WE RAN SOMEBODY OUT THERE.
YEAH, HE SAID HE'D BEEN IN, LIVING IN THERE AS A, TO GET OUT OF THE, THE RAIN AND THE SHELTER AND TO, AND THE WEATHER.
UH, SO, UH, WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THIS BOARD.
IT'S, IT'S GOT SOME ISSUES ON THE INSIDE.
THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE, ACTUALLY THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
AND THOSE, UH, END BOARDS WE'VE HAD TO, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID THAT, BUT THAT'S THE LAST TIME THAT THEY WENT INTO IT.
THEY PRY THAT, THAT, UH, THAT BARRICADE OFF THE ONE END.
THEY GO THROUGH THE FRONT OF THAT, UH, RIGHT INSIDE THAT GATE RIGHT THERE IS A, A DOUBLE DOOR, AND THEY PRY IT OPEN.
AND THAT'S, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD TO SECURE IT.
AND ANYWAY, THAT, THAT, THAT, THIS ONE, SORRY, MY CORRECTION'S BAD.
THAT ONE'S P PRIED OFF THIS LAST TIME.
THE ONE ON THE END, ON THAT END BY THE U-HAUL TRUCK THAT HAD BEEN THE MOST FREQUENT ONE.
AND THERE'S SOME ONES, THERE'S SOME IN THE BACK, YOU'LL SEE IN FURTHER PICTURES OF
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WHERE THEY JUST, THEY EITHER KICK 'EM OUT OR THEY GO IN BACK THERE TOO.SO, UH, THE ERA, THIS LATEST TIME, WHEN WE FOUND THAT F FIRST, THAT END OPENED, I WAS ABLE TO CONTACT, UH, LETICIA, THE LOCAL CARETAKER AND SAID, CAN WE COME WITH US AND GO IN THIS BUILDING AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? SO SHE SAID YES.
SO THIS IS GOING IN THE FRONT DOOR.
THAT WAS, I GUESS, TABLES AND CHAIRS SET UP FOR THE RESTAURANT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, UH, AN EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE OF THE FIRE UP THERE.
I KNOW THAT WE FOUND EVIDENCE OF THEM COOKING PEOPLE THAT HAVE BROKEN IN COOKING IN THE BACK PART OF IT.
BUT THAT CURRENTLY IS A, THE CONDITION ON THE INSIDES THAT UP THE PATCH ON THE FLOOR AND THEN ABOVE, THAT'S WHERE THE ROOF HAS BEEN PATCHED IN THE FRONT PART, IN THE, IN THE DINING AREA.
AND THAT'S STILL PART OF THE FRONT.
THESE ARE THE BATHROOMS. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PLUMBING IS, WELL, IT'S, IT'S BAD.
SO IT'S NOT INHABITABLE AND IT'S DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE GOING IN IT THAT IS IN THE BACK.
THAT LIGHT, THAT SKYLIGHT YOU SEE IN THE TOP, THAT'S A HOLE IN THE ROOF.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ONE TIME THAT WAS A SKYLIGHT OR NOT, BUT IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
NOW, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER ANGLE OF IT.
THIS IS TOWARD THE SIDE, TOWARDS THE EDGE WALL, AND THAT'S DAYLIGHT COMING THROUGH THERE.
AND YOU NOTICE THE, THE MOLD, LIKE SUBSTANCE BELOW THAT.
AND THERE, THAT'S ON THE FLOOR THERE.
THIS IS THE SLEEPING QUARTERS.
THE FOLKS THAT GO IN IT OR HAVE BEEN IN IT, I, WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN MORE, WE, THE POLICE
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY, THEY, THEY GO BACK THERE TO SLEEP.
THERE'S A LOUNGE CHAIR THAT'S THE BACK, THE PLYWOOD ON THE RIGHT WHERE IT'S BOARDED UP.
NOW THAT'S, THAT'S A FREQUENT IN AND OUT.
OUR CONTRACTOR, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A NEW PIECE OF PLYWOOD, FAIRLY NEW ON THAT, ON THE RIGHT OF THAT, THAT ORIGINAL OLD STUFF.
AND SO WE'VE HAD TO RESECURE THAT AT LEAST THREE TIMES THAT I CAN RECALL.
AND SO WE RECOMMEND, UH, FINDINGS, UH, THAT Y'ALL FIND THAT, UH, WHEN WITHIN APPLICABLE LAW, THAT NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE OWNER LIENHOLDER AND OTHER PARTIES INTERESTED IN THE PARTY LOCATED THERE AT 1215 EAST MAIN.
THE PROPERTY, THE VACANT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY IS DILAPIDATED.
PARTS OF THE BALLS AND CEILING PART OF THE ROOF IS MISSING.
THE STRUCTURE IS NOT, IT'S SECURE NOW 'CAUSE WE KEEP HAVING TO SECURE IT.
THE STRUCTURE IS MISSING ELECTRICAL WIRING AND PLUMBING COMPONENTS.
THE STRUCTURE IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN GRAND PRAIRIE CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTION 29 28, 1 2 5 6 8, 9, 12, 13, 16, AND 17.
SO PART OF THE SYNOPSIS THAT I, I WANTED TO GO OVER IS ON THE BOTTOM THERE THAT ON, BECAUSE OF THIS, THE CURRENT OWNER IS, IS SEEKING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL BUYER.
UH, PART OF THE BACKGROUND IS NOT LISTED IN THIS, THAT PART, THE BACK PART OF THIS PROPERTY IS, IS LEASED BY THE OWNER TO A SELL TOWER COMPANY.
SO, UH, THERE'S A AN ISSUE BETWEEN SEPARATING THE PROPERTY THAT'S LEASED FROM THE PROPERTY TO SELL TO SO THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
SO THE ORIGINAL OWNER CAN KEEP THE LEASE FOR THE CELL PHONE 'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY VALUABLE ASSET.
SO THERE'S POTENTIAL OWNERS, UH, NEW OWNERS TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT'LL DEPEND ON, THEY DON'T, THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO PURCHASE SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA ORDER BE DE DEMOLISHED.
SO IT'S MAKES IT A LITTLE STICKY OR TRICKY.
SO OUR RECOMMENDED ORDERS OWNER SHALL ENSURE THE STRUCTURE IS REPAIRED, REMOVED, OR DEMOLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT APPLICABLE LAW.
WITHIN 30 DAYS OF DAY OF THIS ORDER, WE RE WE RECOMMEND 30, BUT WE, HOW WE ORIGINALLY DO THAT.
BUT STAFF IS, IS, IS OPEN AFTER LISTENING TO THE PLEADING OF, OF THE POTENTIAL OWNERS AND THE PEOPLE TRYING TO SELL IT TO SEE THE WORK WITH THEIR TIMELINE.
AND WE CAN EXTEND IT UP TO 90 DAYS.
THE, THE RECOMMENDATION AS WE USUALLY MAKE, UH, OWNER SHALL KEEP THE STRUCTURE SECURE FROM ENTRY UNTIL THE STRUCTURES IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAW, ANY PERSON HAVING AN INTEREST IN THE STRUCTURE.
WHAT MAY REMOVE DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE AT SUCH PERSON'S OWN RISK TO
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PREVENT ACQUIRING THE LIEN AGAINST THE LAND UPON THE STRUCTURE STANDS.SHOULD THE OWNER FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER, THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED AT ITS DISCRETION TO REPAIR, REMOVE OR DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE IN ANY ACCESSORIES REQUIRED TO BE DEMOLISHED AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE OR ANY ALTERNATIVE ASSETS.
A CIVIL PENALTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000 PER DAY FOR EACH DAY.
THE STRUCTURE CONTINUES TO BE IN VIOLATION.
ANY EXPENSES OWED TO THE CITY BY THE OWNER WILL BE BILLED TO THE OWNER.
FAILURE TO PAY THE CHARGE THAT WILL RESULT IN A LIEN PLACEMENT PROPERTY SUCH COSTS, PENALTIES, OR EXPENSES SHALL ACCRUE INTEREST AT A RATE OF 10% PER ANNUM.
THE CITY SHALL HAVE ALL REMEDIES PROVIDED BY LAW TO RECOVER MONEY, OWE THE CITY INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO PLACE THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, UNLESS IT IS A HOMESTEAD PROTECTED BY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
ANY SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THIS ORDER.
AND THAT LAST LINE IMPACTS THAT FIRST LINE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY IN, IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.
SO THAT'S, ANY QUESTIONS? I, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
UH, ALAN HAS, HAS THIS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD IN THE PAST? UH, YEAH.
BEFORE WITH A PRIOR OWNER, WITH A DIFFERENT OWNER? MM-HMM
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? GO AHEAD.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS THAT WE DO WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK MR. OR MS. TOY, SOMEONE HERE BY THE LAST NAME TOY.
IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UM, I'M HERE REPRESENT MR. NIN.
DO WHO'S POTENTIAL BUYER OF THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
UM, JUST LISTEN TO THE INSPECTORS EARLIER.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE A, WE WOULD, THE CITY WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO REPAIR THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT THE TIME TO REPAIR THIS BUILDING, 30 DAY WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH.
UM, ACCORDING TO MR. DOE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE, WHO INTERESTED TO PURCHASE THIS BUILDING, UM, HE'S GOING TO REPAIR ALL THE INSIDE DUE TO THE FACELIFT OF THE OUTSIDE.
SO THE BUILDING WILL LOOK MODERN THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, ACCORDING TO MY EXPERIENCE, HE NEEDS MORE THAN 90 DAYS FROM THE CITY TO DO THAT.
UM, MY QUESTION HERE IS, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITY AND THE INSPECTORS WOULD ALLOW, UM, 180 DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, FOR THE NEW OWNER TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER THAT THE INSPECTOR JUST, UH, DESCRIBED EARLIER? UM, IF, IF, IF THAT, THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
AND THEN MR. DOE WILL CONTACT WITH THE CURRENT OWNER AND GET INTO THE CONTRACT AND GET IT ALL DONE.
YOU SAID ACCORDING TO YOUR EXPERIENCE.
WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE? ARE YOU A CONTRACTOR? ARE YOU A REAL ESTATE? WE ARE CHAIR A CONTRACTOR.
WE BUILD COMMERCIAL BUILDING, WE BUILD RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UH, WITH THIS FACE LIFT, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CALL AS ELEVATION.
MEANING WE HAVE TO HAVE ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING TO DRAW A NEW LOOKS OF THE BUILDING AND THEN SUBMIT TO THE CITY.
SO BEFORE YOU CAN DRAW PLANS, MR. LEE, YOU NEED TO DROP UP A CONTRACT.
HAS A CONTRACT BEEN SUBMITTED ON THE PROPERTY TO PURCHASE? NOT YET.
WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON WITH THAT? WE WAITING ON, UM, UM, WE, WE NOT, WE WASN'T CLEAR WITH THE ORDER FROM THE CITY INSPECTORS WHAT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING.
IF WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, WE WOULDN'T, MR. DOE WOULDN'T INTEREST TO BUY THE BUILDING.
COST A LOT OF MONEY TO DEMOLISH IT, UH, BUT IF WE'D BE ABLE TO REPAIR AND THEN HE WILL ENTER THE CONTRACT WITH A CURRENT OWNER, BUT FOR 90 DAY WOULD BE ENOUGH.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DON'T, IF, IF, IF THE CITY WOULDN'T ALLOW MORE TIME TO
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DO THE FAIL LIFT TO TO, TO REPAIR, UH, THE BUILDING, UM, HE WOULDN'T BACK OUT THE DEAL.HE'S NOT ENTERED, HE HASN'T ENTERED THE DEAL.
SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION ON A CONTRACT THAT IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN WRITTEN.
AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS BASED ON OUR DECISION, YOU'RE GONNA DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? ABSOLUTELY MA'AM.
AND IS THE PLAN TO HONOR THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE CELL TOWER? THE CELL TOWER IS, UM, UH, JUST LIKE THE INSPECTOR SAID, IT'S A LITTLE BIT STICKY.
WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO REPL THE WHOLE PROPERTIES.
WE, WE ARE GONNA DIVIDE TWO, TWO DIFFERENT PLAT, ONE PLAT AROUND THE, UM, THE CELL TOWER, ONE PLAT THAT HAS THE BUILDING, AND, AND THAT IS BETWEEN MR. DOE AND THEN THE, THE CURRENT OWNER WHO PAID FOR THAT RE REPLY.
UM, REPLYING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OWNERSHIP.
AND WHO'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THAT LEASE THOUGH? IT DOES.
WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE THE, THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP WANTED TO KEEP THE TOWER AREA, UH, WHICH HAS THE FENCE A AROUND IT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE COME IN, WE AGREE TO BUY THE REMAIN OF THE PROPERTIES, EXCEPT THAT THAT THEIR, THAT AREA.
SO WE HAVE TO DIVIDE TO DIFFERENT PLATS WHERE PLAT, LET'S SAY PLAT ONE A, WHICH IS THE TOWER, SIT ON IT.
PLAT ONE B, WHICH IS THE BUILDING SIT ON IT.
SHE DOESN'T PLAN ON SELLING THE ENTIRE BUILDING? NO SIR.
AND BECAUSE SHE HASN'T KEPT UP ANY OF THE BUILDING, WHY WOULD WE BELIEVE THAT SHE'S GONNA KEEP UP PART OF IT? OKAY.
YOU UNDERSTAND? QUESTION, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
MA, I DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING JUST, JUST FOR CLARITY FOR SOME OF OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT MAY NOT KNOW.
SO IN THE CITY OF GR IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, YOU CANNOT SUBDIVIDE LAND BY MEETS AND BOUNDS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A BIG PIECE OF LAND AND YOU WANT TO DIVIDE IT IN TWO SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP OWNERSHIP OF ONE, BUT THEN SELL THE OTHER, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REPL IT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO HERE WHERE THE OWNER WANTS TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PORTION OF THE LAND WITH THE CELL TOWER, BUT SELL THE PORTION OF THE LAND THAT HAS THE BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND REPL THE PROPERTIES TO SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY.
SO SHE CAN'T EVEN SELL IT UNTIL IT GETS REPLANTED, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.
WELL, SHE, SHE CAN'T SELL WHAT SHE'S WANTING TO UNTIL IT GETS REPLANTED.
SO SHE HAS TO SELL THE WHOLE THING THEN REPL IT, OR IF SOMEONE HAS TO REPL IT, YEAH, SHE'S GOING TO, TO THEIR, THEIR CURRENT PLAN IS TO REPL IT INTO TWO LOTS AND THEN SELL THE LOT CONTAINING THE BUILDING TO, UM, THE DOSE.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REPL A PROPERTY? IT DEPENDS UPON WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAT MEETS ALL OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
UH, IT TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT AT, AT A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS.
60 IS PROBABLY MORE REALISTIC, I BELIEVE.
CHAD, YOU MAY HAVE SPOKEN WITH PLANNING ABOUT THIS.
IT, IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS, BUT USUALLY IT TAKES ABOUT 60 TO GO THROUGH THE PLATTING PROCESS.
AND HAVE THEY FILED PAPERWORK TO GO THROUGH THE NO, MA'AM.
SO SHE'S BEEN UNRESPONSIVE SINCE 2013, CORRECT? AM I CORRECT? AND WE THINK SHE'S GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN JUMP INTO ACTION NOW? NO, THAT I'M NOT.
IT'S, WE KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE 2013.
IT WAS VACANT UNDER A PRIOR OWNERSHIP.
AND THIS NEW OWNER, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE, THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THEY, THEY BOUGHT IT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER SINCE 2019.
WELL, WELL WE, WE HAVE, THEY'RE HERE NOW.
SO, UH, THEY, WE FINALLY GOT SORT OF LIKE, INTERESTED IN WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
MY QUESTION IS, CAN CAN YOU GO, CAN YOU BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEN REPLAY IT AND THEN COME BACK TO US? WE CAN'T FOR EXTENSIONS.
IT'S ILLEGAL TO BUY PROPERTIES IF IT'S NOT REPLANTED FIRST.
UNLESS YOU SAW TO SELL THE WHOLE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDING THE PART WITH THE TOWER AND THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY FOR US TO ENTER THE CONTRACT WITH THAT, WHICH IF SHE'S ONE TO KEEP IT, WE CAN'T DO IT.
MS. SOLE, HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN AGREED ON A PRICE? UM, SHE WAS OFFERING? I, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M LOOKING, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
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YOU.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TO MY LEFT? JUST WANTED TO LEAVE.
SO YOU REQUESTED ANOTHER SIX? I'M SORRY? YEAH.
SIX MONTHS AFTER THE PURCHASE.
AFTER THE CLOSING DATE? YES, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
IS MR. DOE HERE? NEED TO? HE'S HERE.
YOU NEED, I SPOKE FOR HIM ALREADY, SIR.
DO YOU NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT OR NOT? NO, HE DOESN'T.
UH, DI DOMINGUEZ IS THE NEXT SPEAKER, LAST NAME DOMINGUEZ.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M HERE FOR THE PROPERTY OF 1215 EAST MAIN STREET.
UH, OUR REQUEST IS, IS LIKEWISE, UH, HE WAS MENTIONING WE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION ON THE PROPERTY TO TAKE ACTION.
WHAT? YOUR, YOUR LET, I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPT.
WHAT IS YOUR RELATION TO THE PROPERTY? UM, I'M REPRESENT THE OWNER.
AND WHAT'S THE OWNER'S NAME? UM, RAEL MELENDEZ.
YEAH, SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN RES ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY HALL, WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN, UM, WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT, AS FAR AS THE FACELIFT ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THAT STUFF.
WE, WE, WE DID SOME MODIFICATIONS ON THE EXTERIOR REQUESTED BY THE CITY.
SO, UM, LETICIA WHO, WHO, WHO SHE'S, WHO'S THE CONTACT, WHO, WHO'S THE CONTACT FOR THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UM, HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY AND, UH, ADDRESSING ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE TO AVOID ANY, ANY PENALTIES OR, OR SUCH.
SO, UM, WE END THE SELLING PROCESS AND ALL WE ASK IS 180 DAYS TO, TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS, TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, REPLAY IT AS, UM, AS SHE WAS SAYING, TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO AND GO THROUGH ALL THE STUFF.
BUT ANY, ANY OF THE STUFF THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE, TO THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT, UM, AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR TO MAKE IT LOOK, UH, NOT DANGEROUS.
HEY, WHO'S GONNA REPL THE PROPERTY? WHO'S GONNA REPL THE PROPERTY? YOU, ARE YOU GONNA DO IT? OR, UH, THAT'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, BETWEEN THE OWNER AND, AND THE POTENTIAL BUYER.
SO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT, YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WELL, ALL THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH THEM.
AND WE WERE WAITING FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THIS HEARING TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUY THE PROPERTY, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER POTENTIAL SET POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU GUYS ARE NEGOTIATING AND IT'S JUST VERBALLY, NOTHING'S IN WRITING.
UM, NOTHING'S IN WRITING YET, SO, YEAH, NO.
AND SO MR. LEE SAID 180 DAYS, YOU'RE SAYING 180 DAYS.
WHAT IS, WHAT'S DEFINING ABOUT 180 DAYS? THE, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE NEED TO, TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND, UM, CLOSE OUTS AND ANYTHING THAT MIGHT NEEDED TO BE, WE WERE, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT AWARE OF THE, OF THE, UH, REPLACING, UH, DATE DURATION DAYS FOR THE, UM, THAT THE PROCESS IS GONNA TAKE TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO AND ALL THE STUFF HE SAID HE CAN'T BUY IT TO IT'S REPLANTED.
WHEN'S IT GONNA BE REPLANTED? WE WERE WAITING FOR THIS HEARING.
LIKE I, LIKE I SAID, FOR US TO MAKE THAT MAKE THE NEGOTIATION, WE, IF WE GO WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS AND GIVE YOU 30 DAYS, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE YOU TO REPLANT THE PROPERTY? WE WILL TAKE CASH FOR NOW.
THE THING IS TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
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HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY AND TO THE RESIDENT OF THE CITY.AND IT'S A DANGER, IT'S A STRUCTURE THAT IS DANGEROUS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO IT SEEKING SHELTER AND IT'S NOT SAFE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS DO WE LEAVE THIS UNSAFE STRUCTURE UP FOR ANOTHER 180 DAYS AND IS, IS THAT FAIR TO, IS IT FAIR TO THE BOARD? IS IT FAIR TO CODE COMPLIANCE? IS IT FAIR TO THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO CONTINUE TO GET CALLED OUT THERE TO HANDLE NUISANCES? SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT? I HAVE ONE MORE.
SO IF WE GRANTED, UM, 30 DAYS TO HAVE IT REPLANTED, FILE THE PAPERWORK OR DO THE PAPERWORK TO HAVE IT REPLANTED, GET A CONTRACT EXECUTED AND COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AND GIVE AN EXTENSION AFTER THAT, BASED ON THE TIME YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEED TO CLOSE AND TO START THE PROCESS OF REHABBING THIS, DO YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR? THAT'S, THAT, THAT SHOULD BE FAIR? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YEAH, JUST ONE.
AND IT IS JUST A CONCERN I HAVE.
I MEAN THE OWNER DIDN'T, WAS NOT RESPONSIVE TO ANY VIOLATIONS OR NOTICES GOING BACK 2019.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHY SHE DIDN'T RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE NOTICES FOR HIGH GRASP, FOR CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS? BECAUSE I MEAN, WHO'S TO SAY WHEN WE LEAVE OUTTA HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE RESPONSIVE TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA GRANT YOU? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, SHE'S BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THOSE, TO THOSE CALLS TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
UNLESS THERE'S, THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE NOT, I KNOW ABOUT THE HIGH GRASS SHE WAS TAKING, I MEAN, WE CALLED HER THE CONTRACTOR TO TAKE CARE OF THAT MAY WAS, IT WAS NOT IMMEDIATE, BUT TOOK CARE OF THAT STUFF.
UM, UH, ABOUT THE PROPERTY OR THE, THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY, THE MOLD THAT WAS AROUND THE PROPERTY.
WE REMOVED THAT AND ADDRESSED THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS WAS IN A NOT TOO LONG AGO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT SHE'S BEING RESPONSIVE WHEN THOSE, THOSE ORDINANCES WERE BEING CALLED FOR US.
ARE, ARE YOU IN CONTACT WITH HER? ARE YOU IN CONTACT WITH HER DIRECTLY? YES.
I DON'T GOT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? I I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THE, UH, THE SELLER, IS THIS A NEW, IS THIS A, ARE THEY JUST NOW WANTING TO START SELLING THIS PROPERTY? 'CAUSE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THAT IF THE INTENTION HAS BEEN TO SELL IT FOR SOME TIME, WHY HASN'T THE PLAT PLATTING PROCESS ALREADY BEGUN? WHY WASN'T, UH, PREPARATIONS BEING MADE AND STEPS BEING TAKEN TO PREPARE FOR, UH, TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE A SALE? MM-HMM
SO IS THIS NEW? THE OWNER WAS, WAS HE HAD, UH, VISIONS FOR THE PROPERTY TO DO OTHER THINGS WITH THE BUILDING AND, UM, HIS, HIS PLANS DID NOT COME TO COURT TO HIS PLANTS.
AND I GUESS MY, MY CONCERN IS THIS, IS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT THE SELLER WOULD WANT TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE, UH, BACK HALF OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, IT KIND OF FALLS INTO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE RELIABILITY AT THIS POINT, UM, TO TAKE, TO MOVE IN AN EXPEDITIOUS FASHION TO BE ABLE TO, UM, RECTIFY THE SITUATION FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
I GUESS THAT WAS A QUESTION IN A COMMENT.
NO, I, AS, AS SHE, AS SHE MENTIONED EARLIER, I MEAN, IN THOSE 30 DAYS, IF WE DON'T START WORKING ON THAT AND COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION FOR THE PROPERTY SELLING PROPERTIES PROCESS, I'M SORRY.
UM, THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I MEAN, MY RIGHT.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, WHERE'S THE OWNER? WHERE'S THE OWNER LIVE AT? THE OWNER LEAVES TENNESSEE.
THEY HAVE NO PLANS COMING BACK TO TEXAS.
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IT'S A MALE.I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, ALAN CAN, CAN YOU SHOW ME THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY AGAIN THAT WE'RE, THAT THE SELLER IS LOOKING TO RETAIN? I, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DO NOT HAVE A PICTURE OF THE CELL TOWER FROM THE BACK, BUT I'M ABOUT IT.
MAYBE HALF THE, THE BACK HALF OF THE LOT LOOKING IN.
THE TOWER ITSELF IS, YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THAT FRONT PICTURE.
SO THAT LOT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK.
YOU SEE THAT TREE LINE THERE AT THE BACK OF THE U-HAUL GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PACIFIC.
WHAT IS THAT STREET PACIFIC BACK? I THINK YOU HAVE THE STREET ON THE ARROW VIEW.
OH REALLY? OH, I HAD AN OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
I FORGET I DO THESE, I DO THESE SO I CAN SHOW YOU GUYS WHERE IT IS, UH, THE RED DOT'S WHERE, WHERE THE BUILDING IS.
SO THAT THAT TOWER YOU CAN SEE IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE WHITE SQUARE PACIFIC IS RUNS, THAT'S THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS THE DARK LINE PACIFIC IS THE LIGHTER.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S A PRETTY DEEP PROPERTY.
AND SO IT'S BACK THERE AND IT'S, IT'S FENCED OFF.
AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY THAT NOT EVEN HALF ACROSS THE FRONTAGE OF PACIFIC OR THE WHATEVER YOU CALL THE FRONTAGE ON, ON, ON PACIFIC, UH, THAT'S THE TOWER COMPLEX.
SO REPLOTTING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE UP SOME PARKING SPACES CORRECT.
I DON'T, I DON'T IMAGINE IT WOULD, I DON'T IMAGINE THAT IT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD, BUT I'M NOT IN PLANNING.
I TAKE MORE THAN THE REQUIRED PARKING.
'CAUSE THEY'RE STILL PARKING IN THE FRONT.
WHEN THE, WHEN THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS PARKING THEIR TRUCKS THERE.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED OR I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S ISSUED FOR THE CELL TOWER COMPANY TO REBUILD THAT TOWER TO UPDATE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE MORE.
ONCE YOU FILE TO HAVE THAT REPLANTED, DOES IT HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING? OH, IT DOES, MA'AM DOES, IT DOES.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD'S AGENDA? SO THE SURVEY COMPANY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HAVE TO GO THERE, GO OUT THERE AND DO MEETING, DO THE SURVEY, AND THEN SUBMIT THE PATH TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN PLANNING ZONING.
WE MAKE COMMITTEE, WE MAKE DECISION ON IT.
UH, WHETHER THEY APPROVE IT OR NOT, IT JUST IS NOT ENTIRELY UP TO US MM-HMM
AND THEY MIGHT TAKE IT BACK HERE.
SO UNDER THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CALENDAR MM-HMM
IF IT FOLLOWS THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT CALENDAR, DECEMBER 9TH WOULD BE THE FIRST DATE THAT IT COULD BE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THEY ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKER ON PLATS.
UM, IF IT WENT THROUGH THE EXPEDITED PROCESS, NOVEMBER 11TH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE, UM, DATE THAT IT WOULD GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD ALL BE DEPENDENT UPON WHENEVER THEY SUBMITTED THE PLAT MM-HMM
AND WHETHER OR NOT IT HAD EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE.
IF FOR SOME REASON WHENEVER THEY WENT TO GO PLAT IT, THE LOT WOULD NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WOULD TRIGGER REQUIREMENT TO GET A VARIANCE FROM ZBA TO ALLOW THEM TO PLOT IT.
SO WITHOUT KNOWING THE SPECIFICS AND WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT DEADLINE.
BUT IF IT FOLLOWED THE SUBMISSION CALENDAR AND WAS SUBMITTED BY OCTOBER 28TH OF THIS YEAR MM-HMM
THEN IT WOULD BE SCHEDULED UNDER THEIR REGULAR PROCESS FOR DECEMBER 9TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.
I WAS THINKING OF THAT BECAUSE 30 DAYS YOU'RE JUST SETTING UP, UP TO FAIL.
IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO BEFORE THE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE VERY FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.
THE 90 I, I GET YOU, I GOT THE HINT.
THIS QUESTION IS FOR MR. LEE HAS THE POTENTIAL, UM, BUYERS, HAVE YOU ALREADY BROUGHT IN YOUR, UM, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND YOUR INSPECTOR TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN REHAB THIS PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT A TEAR DOWN MR. UM, NOT
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YET.REAL QUICK, IF I, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE THIS MEETING IS RECORDED AND BROADCAST AND THE VIEWERS AT HOME CANNOT HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
BECAUSE OF THE, UM, UM, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE DEEMED THIS BUILDING IS DANGEROUS BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH, UH, BEFORE WE ENTERED THE CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS, IS WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR ENGINEER GO OUT THERE, WE ACCESS THE BUILDING, UM, THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING, SAFE OR NOT, UM, AND THEN DRIVE A REPORT.
AND THEN WE MAKE DECISION TO, TO ADVISE MR. DOE TO EN TO ENTER THE CONTRACT WHETHER IT'S SAFE OR NOT.
UM, THAT PROCESS HASN'T BEEN DONE YET, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS HEARING.
AFTER THIS HEARING, WE WILL ADVISE MR. DOE WHAT TO DO NEXT, UH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT STEP'S GOING TO BE, HAVE OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER GO OUT THERE.
UH, WE ACCESS THE WHOLE BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE TOOLS, THE WAY TO DO IT MM-HMM
UM, WE DON'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BUY THIS BUILDING.
UM, IT COSTS SO MUCH MONEY TO BUILD, UM, TO DO A FACELIFT, TO REPAIR THEM, UH, WHATSOEVER.
THEY'LL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN, AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
THAT IS, UM, WHAT I WAS SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON BECAUSE IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT A DEAL COULD NOT HAPPEN.
AND ANOTHER PROCESSORS, LIKE THE LADIES EARLIER SAY THAT, UH, THE REPL THAT DOES, UH, PER STATE LAW, UM, YOU HAVE TO MEET A REQUIREMENT FOR REPL, UH, DECIDE THE PLA HAD TO BE A CERTAIN WAY AND, UH, PLANNING THE ZONING PROPERTY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
THEY HAVE TO SEND TO THIS COUNCILMAN AND THEN OWNER HAVE TO GET TO BE HERE TO, FOR THE COUNCILMAN TO MAKE DECISION ON A RELA.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, PROCESS THAT GOING THROUGH IT.
THE, EVEN THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING IS SAFE.
UH, ACCORDING TO OURS, OUR STRUCTURE ENGINEERING, UH, THE RELA IS NOT A CHALLENGING, UH, UH, PART THAT THE OWNER HAS TO GO THROUGH.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NEXT SPEAKER IS LETICIA DGE, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? UM, WELL, UH, JUST A, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE MA'AM.
UH, WE ARE DOING, WE ARE TAKING CARE ALREADY.
ACTUALLY, WE ALREADY FIXED SOMETHING IN THE FRONT, IN THE BACK, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, UH, LIST.
SO WE ARE TAKING CARE AND ALL THAT.
WE NEED THIS TIME TO THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, AND IT'S TIME THAT WE NEED, BUT SERIOUSLY, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? NO, SIR.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON, UH, 1215 EAST MAIN STREET? IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS, IS THERE ANY BOARD DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
UM, SHE'S HAD THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2019.
AND SHE WANTS TO KEEP THE TOWER, DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE TOWER'S BEEN THERE.
AND SHE WANTS TO SELL THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE SHE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE OWNING THAT PART WITH THE VANDALISM AND ALL THE, THE COMPLAINTS.
SO IF WE GIVE HER ANOTHER 30 DAYS MAYBE TO SEE IF SHE EVEN TAKES ACTION TO DO THE PLATTING, I MEAN, DOES SHE SUBMIT THE FORM? OKAY.
AND HAS SHE, IS SHE GOING TO CONTROL ALL THE ISSUES AND NOT HAVE ANY MORE ISSUES ON SAFETY AND ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THIS PRODUCT? UH, PROPERTY IN 30 DAYS? SO SHE HAS MORE ISSUES.
SO SHE HASN'T FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK YET TO DO THE PLATTING, THEN IT'S A PIECE OF CAKE.
YOU KNOW, SHE HAS TO GET INVOLVED.
I THINK BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH 30 DAYS IS, UM, ENOUGH TIME.
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TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK.SHE HAS TO SUBMIT IT BY THE 28TH OF OCTOBER.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET AGAIN BEFORE THAT TIME TO SEE IF PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO, OR I WOULDN'T WANNA MEET JUST TO SEE IF PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
I WOULD WANT TO MEET AFTER IT GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
BUT WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T SUBMIT IT FOR ANOTHER 60, 90 DAYS? WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND OR SUGGEST 60 DAYS.
60 DAYS INSTEAD OF 30 JUST TO SEE IF SHE SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK.
BE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING UNLESS WE MET AGAIN, JUST TO SEE IF SHE SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK.
I MEAN, TO SUBMIT IT IN 30 DAYS OR NOT 60 DAYS.
IF SHE HADN'T DONE IT IN 30 DAYS, SHE ISN'T GONNA PROBABLY DO IT IN 60 DAYS.
SHE'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING IT.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT SEEMS OR THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE OWNER IS THE REPRESENTATIVES OUT HERE THAT'S MM-HMM
WHO, WHO HAS TO FILE FOR PAPERWORK ON A REPL? THE OWNER OR A REPRESENTATIVE? IT'S TYPICALLY GONNA BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE THE PLAT IS COMPLETED BY USUALLY AN ENGINEER OR SOMEONE THAT GOES ACTUALLY OUT AND SURVEYS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE EASEMENTS AND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
AND SO 30 DAYS FROM NOW IS WHAT? NOVEMBER? WHAT? SEVENTH? FIFTH DO WE MEET AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 5TH OR BEFORE? IT'S NOVEMBER 7TH.
AND THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY,
SO
THE MEETING IS ON DECEMBER 2ND.
SO WHAT YOU WOULD DO DURING THAT TIME, IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF IT CAME BACK BEFORE YOU ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUDGE BASED UPON THE PROGRESS THAT THEY MADE, ANY STATEMENTS THAT THEY PROVIDE AND DECIDE AT THAT TIME IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE ORDER OUT OR IF YOU WANT TO JUST ALLOW THE ORDER TO REMAIN THE SAME.
IN WHICH CASE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE EXPIRATION OF THE ORDER, THE CITY COULD TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
UM, ONE THING TO JUST KEEP IN MIND WITH, WITH ALL OF THAT IS THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXTEND BEYOND 90 DAYS UNLESS THE OWNER PRESENTS YOU WITH A PLAN MM-HMM
TO SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU THAT IF YOU DO EXTEND IT OUT TO 60 DAYS, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS BE THAT A PLAN MM-HMM
BE PRESENTED AT THAT MEETING, UM, AS TO HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE.
TIFFANY, YOU MENTIONED A NOVEMBER 11TH DATE.
WHAT WAS THAT? NO, NOVEMBER 2ND.
NOVEMBER 4TH WAS THE MEETING DATE.
AND NOVEMBER 6TH IT WOULD BE 30 DAYS OUT.
NO, EARLIER ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU SAID, OH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS ON NOVEMBER 11TH.
I, IT, IT'S HIGHLY DOUBTFUL, JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR SURVEYING AND PLANNING PROCESS.
I THINK IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT IT WOULD GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON DECEMBER THE NINTH.
AGAIN, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT IT'S SUBMITTED AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT UNTIL IT'S SUBMITTED AND UNTIL OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT, WE REALLY CAN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARDS MM-HMM
THEY MAY HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FROM ZBA, WHICH MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, BUT SOMEONE WITHIN 30 DAYS COULD FILE FOR A PLAT.
THEY CAN FILE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA MEET AGAIN.
THEY COULD FILE AND, UM, DEPENDING UPON WHEN THEY FILE PLANNING, MAY HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO.
WELL, THE, THE NEXT SUBMISSION IS DEADLINE THAT THEY LOOK AT IS OCTOBER THE 28TH.
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TO REVIEW IT ON THAT OCTOBER, SUBMIT IT ON THAT OCTOBER 28TH, THEY WOULD AT LEAST GET SOME PRELIMINARY COMMENTS BACK BY NOVEMBER THE 14TH, 1960 DAYS.BUT IF WE GAVE THEM THE 30 DAYS, WE WOULD ONLY, THE ONLY INFORMATION WE WOULD GET BACK ON THAT 30TH NEXT TIME WE MEET IS WHETHER THEY FILED ANY PAPERWORK OR NOT FOR A PLAT.
AND HAVE ANY VIOLATIONS OR NOT.
YOU, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT.
YOU WOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY SUBMITTED THE PLAT.
YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF ANY COMMENTS.
MOST LIKELY FROM THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE'S REVIEW OF THAT PLOT SUBMISSION.
BUT AGAIN, IF THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SUBMITTED IN BEFORE THE 28TH OF OCTOBER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ANYWAY AT THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MY RIGHT? NOPE.
WELL, AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.
I MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT WE EXTEND 30 DAYS, UM, TO, FOR, TO SEE IF THEY'VE ACT, IF ANY ACTION IS TAKEN ON RE PLATTING THE PROPERTY AND TO SEE IF THE OWNER IS TAKING OWNERSHIP, GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF THAT LAND, AND NOT HAVING ANY ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS FROM EITHER CODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE ON THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY.
SO, SO DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO FIND, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, IS I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR MOTION IS, BUT, UH, DO YOU WANNA FIND THAT THE, UH, UH, FIND THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, UH, ARE, ARE WHAT BE EXTENDED FOR 30 MORE DAYS? RIGHT? RIGHT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO ACCEPT THE ORDER, BUT EXTENDED FOR 30 DAYS TO SEE IF THE PLATTING DOES APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED AND TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO MORE VIOLATIONS, WHETHER FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE POLICE.
IF I MAY, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT YOUR ORDER IS.
SO STAFF'S CURRENT RECOMMENDED FINDINGS AND ORDERS WOULD GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND IT WOULD DE DECLARE THE PROPERTY THE STRUCTURE TO BE DANGEROUS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE CURRENTLY RECOMMENDED AND PUT BEFORE YOU.
SO IF YOUR MOTION IS TO EXTEND THAT FOR 30 DAYS, THEN YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING FOR EITHER A, YOU'RE DOING ONE OF TWO THINGS.
YOU'RE SAYING I WANT TO NOT RENDER A DECISION YET AND JUST BRING BACK IN 30 DAYS TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO ORDER.
OR YOU'RE SAYING I WANT TO DECLARE IT DANGEROUS ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED FINDINGS AND ORDERS EXCEPT EXTEND THAT 30 DAYS OUT TO 60.
TO ACCEPT THAT IT IS DANGEROUS AND TO CONTINUE TO SECURE THE PROPERTY TO WHATEVER CODE ENFORCEMENT SAYS TO, TO MAKE SURE IT'S AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
SO YOU'RE, ARE YOU WANTING TO ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED FINDINGS IN ORDERS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY WHERE THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND DURING THAT TIME THEY'RE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR A REPL? CORRECT.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED FINDINGS AND ORDERS, WHICH WOULD DECLARE THE PROPERTY DANGEROUS.
IT WOULD GIVE THE OWNERS 30 DAYS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO FILE FOR A REPL WITHIN THAT 30 DAY PERIOD.
AND IT WOULD RESCHEDULE THIS FOR A NEW HEARING ON NOVEMBER THE FOURTH, 2024.
AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD SHOULD IT CHOOSE TO, BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE SUBMITTED, MAY EXTEND THE DEADLINE.
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THAT'S MY MOTION.SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THAT WE GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE ADOPT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DECLARE THE STRUCTURE DANGEROUS, UH, THIS 30 DAY COMPLIANCE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO REPL THE PROPERTY AND RESCHEDULE FOR NOVEMBER 4TH, UH, A HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 4TH.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MS, UH, DINER AND, UH, SECOND BY MS. UH, MR. LUNA.
SO THAT MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ONE, RIGHT? SEVEN TO ONE.
SEVEN TO 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 TO ONE.
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AGENDA IS OFFICER ELECTIONS.UH, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OFFICER ELECTIONS.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS IN THE, UH, VICE CHAIR'S POSITION AND THEY WENT TO ANOTHER, UH, UH, COMMISSION.
AND SO THE VICE CHAIR'S POSITION IS VACANT.
UH, WE CAN DO THIS SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, WE COULD WAIT TILL MR. AARON KING GETS BACK AND VOTE.
AND SINCE EVERYBODY BE HERE, WE CAN, UH, VOTE FOR THE CHAIR AND THE, UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, EVEN IN HIS ABSENCE.
WE CAN DO THAT AS ONE VOTE OR WE CAN DO IT AS TWO VOTES.
DO I HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I WILL SAY, AND I WILL PUT IT ON THE TABLE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IF, IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO CONTINUE SERVING AS THE CHAIR, I'D BE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AS THE CHAIR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO THAT, I'LL DO IT.
SO DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON, I'M GONNA SECOND THAT VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR AT THE SAME TIME? OR YOU WANNA DO IT SEPARATELY? I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT SEPARATELY.
SO DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA VOTE ON ME NOW AND THEN WAIT TILL AARON GETS BACK TO DO THE VICE CHAIR? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO, UH, THERE IS A MOTION TO, UH, TO PUT ME BACK IN AS THE CHAIR OF THIS BOARD.
AND IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? AND I HAVE A SECOND.
UH, MS. OLIVER MADE THE MOTION AND MR. WIGGINS MADE THE SECOND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THAT PASSES BY VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.
UH, SO THE VICE CHAIR WILL BE TABLED UNTIL AARON GETS BACK.
SO WE'LL ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO, UH, TO VOTE OF VICE CHAIR.
OKAY? AND, AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, Y'ALL WELCOME TO TABLE IT, BUT YOU ARE ALSO WELCOME TO VOTE IN HIS ABSENCE.
HE IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE HERE TO BE NOMINATED OR VOTED FOR.
NOW, I, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM MM-HMM
AND IF, IF NO ONE WANTS THE VICE CHAIR POSITION MM-HMM
UH, HE INDICATED TO ME HE WOULD ACCEPT THAT ON THE BOARD'S BEHALF.
BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, THAT'S STRICTLY UP TO Y'ALL.
WELL, YOU DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE MADE THAT DECISION,
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
WELL THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT TOO.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UM, AARON KING, RIGHT AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE, UH, BOARD.
ALL OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIED BY VOTE.
DID YOU
UH, IS THERE ANY CITIZENS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIST THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS TO THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, THE ADJOURNMENT.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE.
I MOTION WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.