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THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER TODAY.

IN THE SPIRIT OF SERVING OUR CITY, MAY WE HONOR OUR ROLE BY KEEPING AN OPEN MIND, LISTENING WITH AN OPEN HEART AND USING OUR PERSONAL PER AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE TO BENEFIT AND PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.

YES, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF MARITAL.

AND TWO COLOR FOR WHICH STAND.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE, HONOR, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY FOR ITEMS FOR CITIZEN.

FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.

NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.

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[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 26TH, 2024 PNZ MEETING.

I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APLU APPROVE.

ITEM ONE AS A PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[2. SUP-24-08-0031 - Specific Use Permit Review - Zaza Hookah Lounge (City Council District 2). Review SUP No. 1125B, a Specific Use Permit for Amusement Services authorizing a Hookah Lounge, for compliance with SUP conditions, and modify, renew, or revoke if deemed appropriate based upon the review. Lot 2, Block 1, Gibsons Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-394, and addressed as 906 W Pioneer Pkwy Suite 250]

THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW.

THIS ITEM WAS TABLED FROM THE LAST MEETING, AND IT'S FOR ZZA HOOK LOUNGE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S LOCATED AT 9 0 6 WEST PIONEER PARKWAY.

UH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SPECIFIC PERMIT REVIEW IS TO REVIEW THE SUP FOR, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUP CONDITIONS AND MODIFY, RENEW, OR REVOKE IF DEEMED APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE REVIEW.

SO THIS SUP IS FOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES AUTHORIZING A HOOKAH LOUNGE IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT SUP AND REQUIRED A REVIEW IN SIX MONTHS.

UH, STAFF BROUGHT IT BACK FOR COUNCIL REVIEW IN DECEMBER

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AND AGAIN IN JULY.

UH, SO A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

UH, THERE IS ZAZA HOOKAH LOUNGE, WHICH OPERATES IN SUITE 250, AND ADJACENT TO THAT IS ZAZA PIZZA AND WINGS, WHICH OPERATES IN SUITE 300.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL HOURS.

UM, STAFF CONFIRMED WHAT THE OPERATOR THAT ZAZA HOOKAH LOUNGE DOES NOT OPERATE BEYOND MIDNIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT THE SUP AUTHORIZES.

UM, BUT THERE IS SOME CONFLICTING SIGNAGE ON BOTH LOCATIONS.

SO STAFF IS ADDING A RECOMMENDED CONDITION TO KIND OF CLEAR THAT CONFUSION UP.

SO THE OPERATIONS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE SUP CONDITIONS AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT THE SUP BE RENEWED WITHOUT SPECIFYING A DATE FOR FUTURE REVIEW OF THE SUP.

UH, SO THIS WILL BE THE, UH, FOURTH TIME, UH, THE THIRD TIME BEFORE COUNSEL THAT THEY'VE REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE AND THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

AND SO STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH NOT SPECIFYING THAT TIMEFRAME.

UH, WE ALSO ARE RECOMMENDING THAT ALL OTHER EXISTING CONDITIONS FROM 2023, UH, RENEWAL REMAIN THE SAME AT THIS TIME.

AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDING NO MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE AS THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AND NO ISSUES WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.

NOW, WE ARE ADDING ONE TO THAT, AND THAT IS THAT THE OPERATOR SHALL REMOVE ANY AND ALL SIGNAGE REFERENCING HOURS BEYOND WHAT IS AUTHORIZED IN THE SUP FROM ZAZA HOOKA LOUNGE, AND SHALL POST SIGNAGE REFLECTING THE HOURS OF OPERATION AS REQUIRED BY THE SUP CONDITIONS.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

GOOD.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, UM, IF WE REMOVE THE CONDITION FOR THEM TO COME BACK ANNUALLY, ARE, IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT TRIGGERS OUR ATTENTION TO THEM? IF, IS IT A NUMBER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES OR YES.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? TYPICALLY, STAFF WILL WORK WITH, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR PD FOR A LOCATION.

UH, THEY'LL ALERT US TO, HEY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INCIDENTS AT AT THIS LOCATION, AND IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING IT BACK FOR A REVIEW.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON THAT? THANK YOU, SAVANNAH.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION IN THE BOARD BRIEFING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UM, IS THE APPLICANT ? UM, WE ADDRESS THAT FOUR OF THE SPEAKERS? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR NUMBER TWO.

UH, NO SPEAKER CARDS.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION? UH, COMMISSIONER COLEY? YES, I, I THOUGHT THE ISSUE LAST MEETING WAS THE EACH DIFFERENCES, 'CAUSE RECENTLY, SOMETIME LAST MONTH, WE APPROVED SIMILAR, UH, BUSINESS PLAN WITH MINIMUM OF 21 YEARS OLD PATRON AND EMPLOYEES.

I THINK WE PUT THAT THAT'S IN THERE, I BELIEVE, ISN'T IT? THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DO NOT MODIFY IT BECAUSE THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR TWO YEARS AND HAS BEEN COMPLYING WITH THOSE EXACT CONDITIONS, AND STAFF HASN'T FOUND, UH, A REASON TO MODIFY THEM.

I THINK THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE WAS THAT WE WERE HOPING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE HERE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

SO THE APPLICANT IS STILL NOT HERE.

THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEY, HE, HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY, BUT AGAIN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE CONDITIONS.

BUT, SO HE DIDN'T RESPOND TO THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD.

I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT.

HE ENSURED THAT HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY.

HOWEVER, HIS ATTENDANCE, UM, NOT MODIFYING THOSE CONDITIONS.

THERE'S NO NEED TO CHECK IN WITH HIM TO SEE IF HE'S OKAY WITH THAT.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE CONDITIONS REMAIN THE SAME.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? BECAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE TABLED IT LAST TIME, AND IT, IT SEEMS A BIT DISRESPECTFUL A LITTLE BIT THAT, UH, HE, NOBODY BOTHERED TO SHOW UP.

BUT, UH, THAT BEING SAID, AND THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

UM, SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO SEP DASH 24 DASH ZERO EIGHT DASH 0 0 3 1 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW FOR ZAZA HOOKAH LOUNGE AND APPROVE IT WITH, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM TWO BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS PER DRC.

RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE.

[3. SUP-24-07-0030 - Specific Use Permit - Lion of Judah Day Care (City Council District 6). Specific Use Permit for a Child Day Care Center. Lot 1R, Block A, Woods United Methodist Church Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Agricultural (A), within the Lake Ridge Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1350 W Bardin Rd]

NEXT CASE IS, UH, SUP 24 0 7 0 0 3 0, WHICH IS ITEM THREE, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR LINE OF JUDAH DAYCARE.

THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT

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IS FOR THE CHILD DAYCARE, UH, ANY CHILDREN IF THEY'RE FOUR OR MORE UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE.

IT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO BE APPROVED FROM PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF LAKERIDGE PARKWAY AND WEST BARDEN ROAD, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL.

HERE'S THE FLOOR PLAN.

UH, IT'S COMBINING THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR IS GOING TO BE 7,430 SQUARE FEET FOR THE CHILD DAYCARE WITHIN AN EXISTING CHURCH.

UH, THE OUTDOOR PLAY AREA COMPLIES WITH THE 25% REQUIREMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

THERE WILL BE FOUR CLASSROOMS FOR CHILDREN, AGES FIVE TO 12, AND THEN FOUR CLASSROOMS WILL BE DEDICATED FOR INFANTS, TODDLERS, AND PRESCHOOLERS.

HERE'S THE PARKING PLAN.

UH, COMBINING BOTH USES THE CHURCH AND THE CHILD DAYCARE.

THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

UH, THEIR REQUIRED IS 84 SPACES.

THEY'RE PROVIDING A HUNDRED FOR THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN.

IT'S GOING TO BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 6:00 AM TO 6:30 PM THEY WILL HAVE EIGHT TEACHERS AND FOUR ASSISTANT TEACHERS.

AND THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY FOR, UH, STUDENTS WILL BE, OR THE CHILDREN WILL BE 88.

UH, CURBSIDE DROP OFF IS NOT ALLOWED.

THE PARENT WILL GO INSIDE TO CHECK IN OR CHECK OUT.

UH, THE CHILD AND BUILDING WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH A VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.

HERE ARE SOME IMAGES OF THE PLAYGROUND, AND THE SECOND IMAGE DEPICTS THE EXIT DIRECTLY ONTO THE PLAYGROUND.

ANOTHER, UH, REQUIREMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OF.

UH, THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

WE SENT OUT 12 LETTERS, UH, OF NOTICE TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WE DID NOT RECEIVE, UH, ANY IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION.

UH, THE DRC ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE BRIEFING, THERE ARE FIVE DAYCARES WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE OF THIS LOCATION.

UH, AND THE PREVIOUS SUP WAS APPROVED IN 2013.

UH, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ANY ROOM OF CHILDREN, UH, AGES TWO AND A HALF YEARS OR YOUNGER THAT ARE BEING CARED FOR, MUST HAVE AN EXIT DOOR DIRECTLY OUTSIDE, OR THE BUILDING MUST BE PROTECTED BY AN AUTOMATIC FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

AND LASTLY, THAT THE CHILD, UH, DAYCARE SHALL COMPLY WITH ALLSTATE AND STATE OF REGULATIONS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS.

FIRST IS THE APPLICANT'S SPOKESMAN, UH, NIKIA WEBSTER, WHICH IS TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

YOU STATE YOUR AFTERNOON NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS NIKIA WEBSTER.

AND THE ADDRESS IS 1350 WEST BARDEN ROAD.

AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AND IN SUPPORT? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

UM, , I WAS A PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATOR 15 YEARS, AND I NOTICED JUST ASTRONOMICAL GAPS IN THE LEARNING.

SOME OF IT WAS ECONOMIC, UM, ACADEMIC GAPS.

SOME OF IT WAS, UM, SIMPLE AS SIMPLE AS TABLE MANNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, I'M MONTESSORI CERTIFIED, AND I KNOW THAT WHAT THAT DOES IS IT LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD AND IT UNITES.

SO THAT'S MY GOAL, TO LAY A SOLID FOUNDATION TO UNITE LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE, THE NEWS STORIES GOING AROUND, IT'S, IT'S SO MUCH ANGER, IT'S A LACK OF MORALS AND ALL THAT.

SO I CAN'T CHANGE EVERYBODY, BUT THIS IS MY CONTRIBUTION, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO ON, IF YOU COULD SEE ON THE SCREEN THE ITEM THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, UH, ANY ROOM IN WHICH THE TWO AND A HALF YEAR OLDS AND YOUNGER, SO YOU ARE, YOU PLANNED TO SET UP THAT WAY SO THAT, THAT EXIT DOOR, IT'S ALREADY DONE.

GOOD DEAL.

THE, THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS THERE.

OH, THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

WONDERFUL.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I, I, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, DAYCARES IN THE AREA MM-HMM .

AND I NOTICED THAT A WHILE BACK, YOU GUYS DID HAVE, UM, A SCHOOL.

SO WHAT LED TO THE SCHOOL? NOT, UH, UH, CLOSING AT A CERTAIN POINT PRIOR? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I, I'M, I'M NEW.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

AND BECAUSE OF, THERE ARE DAYCARES IN THE AREA THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THAT YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH STUDENTS, OR YOU ALREADY HAVE A, A, A LIST OF STUDENTS THAT ARE, YOU'RE ALREADY PREPARED TO, TO, TO JOIN.

SO THE STATE REQUIRES THAT I DO NOT ADVERTISE MM-HMM .

UNTIL THEY ISSUE MY PERMIT.

BUT WHAT I BRING IS DIFFERENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, JUST ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING FOR CHILDCARE THESE DAYS KNOWS THAT IN PARTICULAR, AGES IN GENERAL, ARE YOU HAVE WAITING LISTS.

SO I, I FEEL LIKE YOU'LL BE WELL ATTENDED.

SO, YEAH.

IT'S NEEDED.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

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CARD COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT WE HAVE JIM HEARD, UH, DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

NEXT WE HAVE CHERYL LANGOWSKI.

UH, SHE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE PAUL LUKOWSKI.

HE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES, WISH TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

NEXT, WE HAVE ANNA RAMON.

SHE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

NEXT, WE HAVE NANCY GAGE.

SHE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

NEXT, WE HAVE SUE HURD.

UH, MS. HURD DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

NEXT, WE HAVE YVONNE MOSLEY.

SHE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT SHE WISH TO RECORD HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE PAUL RAMON.

UM, AND HE DID WISH TO SPEAK.

HELLO, MR. RAMON.

HELLO.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN FOR THE RECORD CHAIR PERSON SMITH COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS PAUL RAMON, 1350 WEST BARDON ROAD.

I'M A VOTING MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION.

AND I, I APPRECIATE WHAT WAS SAID HERE ABOUT THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AS A FATHER AND A GRANDFATHER.

I KNOW HOW THE STRUGGLE IS TO GET CHILDCARE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CON CONTRIBUTING MEMBER TO THE WORKFORCE AND TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO GET UP AND SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND TO GIVE A VOICE TO THE REST OF THOSE WHO DIDN'T WISH TO GET UP AND SPEAK.

SO, I, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS SUP.

WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

FOR THAT, SIR, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT EITHER OUR STAKEHOLDERS HERE AND THERE ARE FOLKS THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE SCHOOL.

THEY'LL NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

EXACTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT WE HAVE BENNY HAM.

WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? GIMME A SECOND.

HELLO, SIR.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS BENNY HAM, UH, 1350 BARDEN ROAD, MEMBER OF THE WOOD UNITED METHOD CHURCH.

I'M PRESIDENT OF CHURCH COUNCIL.

UH, WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED TO DO THIS, WE WERE ALL QUESTIONING THE NEED AND QUALITY.

UH, AS A RETIRED DAYCARE DIRECTOR OF 33 YEARS HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THIS LADY HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.

THE EQUIPMENT THAT SHE'S ALREADY GOT IN PLACE OF THE, IN THE BUILDING AND THE PROGRAM, THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT SHE'S GOING TO OFFER, I THINK WILL BE A GREAT SUCCESS TO US.

AND ALL THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK ARE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH, .

WELL, THAT, THAT IS A BLESSING.

SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHURCH, I'M HERE.

, WELL SHOOT AT ME.

WELL, HOW LONG HAS THE CHURCH BEEN IN EXISTENCE, SIR? ABOUT 15 YEARS.

AND THE REASON FOR THE SCHOOL NOT BEING THERE ANY LONGER MM-HMM .

IS IT STARTED AS A MOTHER'S DAY OUT PROGRAM.

TWO DAYS A WEEK.

THEN WE ASKED THE STATE IF WE COULD HAVE A SECOND PROGRAM.

TWO DAYS A WEEK, DIFFERENT DAYS.

THEY SAID, THAT'S GREAT.

YOU'RE OPERATING THE TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS, THE SAME BUILDING, NO CONTACT, NO PROBLEM.

A YEAR LATER, GUESS WHAT? THERE'S A PROBLEM.

WE HAD TO BE CERTIFIED BY, UH, LICENSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ALL HAD TO DO ALL THE PAPERWORK, EVERYTHING.

AND WE DID IT.

IT WAS ALL DONE.

THAT'S WHERE I CAME ON BOARD WITH THEM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, GETTING MM-HMM .

BUT AFTER I RETIRED FROM, UH, A PRIVATE DAYCARE CENTER, THEY ASKED ME TO COME HELP.

AND, UH, IT WORKED AND IT WORKED WELL.

UH, THE PROBLEM WAS PEOPLE MOVED, THE DIRECTORS MOVED AWAY, TEACHERS MOVED AWAY.

WE AS A CHURCH, COULD NOT SUPPORT THE SALARIES THAT WERE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE TEACHERS.

THEY WERE THERE.

THE ONES THAT WERE THERE WERE BECAUSE THEY LOVED CHILDREN.

NOT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY MM-HMM .

BUT IF YOU GET BEYOND THAT, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA PAY THEIR BILLS.

EXACTLY.

AND SO IT JUST, IT JUST HAD TO FIZZLE OUT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT HISTORY, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO THE PROGRAM ITSELF WAS NOT A FAILURE, IT WAS A GOOD PROGRAM.

NO PROGRAMS WERE GREAT SUCCESSES.

UNDER TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT LEADERSHIPS OVER THE YEARS.

BUT AS TIME GOES ON MM-HMM .

WE GET OLD .

OH YEAH, I KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND OUR ENERGY RUNS OUT.

UH, BUT AS A, LIKE I SAID, AS A PERFORMER, DAYCARE DIRECTOR HERE IN TOWN MM-HMM .

I LIKE WHAT SHE'S BRINGING TO THE TABLE.

WELL, IT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE AND THAT YOU, YOU'RE IN SUPPORT AND I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'LL COME

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TO YOU FOR CONSULTATION.

SHE ALREADY HAS.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT.

HER SPIRITUAL, UH, PERSPECTIVE.

ANY OTHER CARDS? YES.

WE HAVE SEVERAL.

UM, ROBIN, ROBIN PRITT, THE WOODS.

UMC DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

BARBARA HAM, UH, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AS WELL.

JENNIFER GAGE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

LESTER ANDERSON WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

HELLO THERE, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM.

STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I AM LESTER ANDERSON, THE PASTOR OF THE WOODS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH SINCE FEBRUARY, 2022.

UH, I WAS APPOINTED HERE BY THE NORTH TEXAS CONFERENCE AND, UH, AS ALL PASTORS ARE, IS TO LEAD THE CHURCH SPIRITUALLY.

AND WE WERE GIVEN A SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE AREA THAT WE RESIDE IN FOR US.

WE HAD BEEN PRAYING WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT MINISTRY, WHAT THAT MISSION MAY LOOK LIKE.

WHEN MS. NIKIA WEBSTER AND HER TEAM APPROACHED US ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF LEASING SPACE IN OUR BUILDING, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THE BUILDING BY DESIGN IS BUILT TO DO JUST THIS.

IF YOU EVER WANNA STOP BY AND TAKE THE TOUR, PLEASE DO THAT.

LET US KNOW.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE BUILDING.

SO, OUR CHALLENGE AS CLERGY, WERE TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY THAT WE RESIDE IN.

AND AS I SAY, WHEN MS. WEBSTER APPROACHED US ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE CHURCH, UH, PROVIDING THEM SPACE TO LEASE, IT WAS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.

AND, AND, AND, UH, HER, HER JOURNEY OF FAITH IS REMARKABLE.

AND WE ALL, YOU'VE GOT 15 MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH.

YOU'VE GOT A FINANCE CHAIR, YOU'VE GOT A CHURCH COUNCIL CHAIR, YOU'VE GOT A SEVERAL TRUSTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE.

YOU'VE GOT TIMOTHY APDI, WHO IS A SIGNIFICANT ADVISOR IN THE CHURCH AND MEMBER OF THE CHURCH.

WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS YOUNG LADY IN HER VENTURE AS A, AS A PRIOR PUBLIC EDUCATOR, AND TO PROVIDE SERVICES WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY THAT WE WORK IN.

UH, AND I, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ARE SO IMPRESSED WITH HER AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS A PROFESSIONAL, AND AS AN EDUCATOR, THAT WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BE A WIN-WIN FOR THE, FOR THE YOUNG WORKING FAMILIES OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SO DESPERATELY NEEDED.

WELL, YOU HAVE, UH, UH, YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR 'CAUSE WE BELIEVE THE SAME THING THAT YOU BELIEVE IN.

IF I COULD JUST LEAD US IN , FATHER, I STRETCH MY HAND TO THE AMEN.

NOW WE ARE, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THIS, THIS TASK.

BECAUSE WE, OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY GET AMEN.

WHAT THEY NEED.

YOU KNOW? YES.

AND IF YOU'RE TAKING THE TIME AND YOUR, YOUR CHURCH IS DOING THAT, I, I COMMEND YOU ALL.

LEMME SAY THIS, AND THIS PUTS FAMILIES, YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE TORN BETWEEN SOCCER GAMES AND FOOTBALL GAMES AND T-BALL PRACTICE.

THE CHILDREN THAT WILL ATTEND THIS SCHOOL WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPTION THAT THEY MAY PARTICIPATE IN ON SUNDAYS.

MAYBE THEY WILL COME AND BE PART OF A FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY ALSO.

AND, AND, AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT MS. WEBSTER AND HER TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS BRING TO THE TABLE AND WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR PRESENCE IN SOUTH WARE PRAIRIE LAKE RIDGE AT BARDEN ROAD.

STOP BY AND SEE US ONE DAY.

THAT HELPS GRAND PRAIRIE AS WELL.

THE CITY, IS IT THE COMMISSIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AMEN.

WE THANK YOU.

YOU I'M A PREACHER.

YOU HAVE NO QUESTION.

, YOU, YOU HAVE ALREADY PREACHED THE SERMON.

I GOD BLESS YOU.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY SIR.

MS. MR. ANDERSON, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IT, IT NOW IS, IS IT OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL OR IS IT JUST FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER RECRUITING OR HOW SHE DOES HER BUSINESS.

WE ARE PROVIDING SPACE AND SUPPORT.

BUT IT IS OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY, WHOEVER THE APPLICANTS ARE.

BUT THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE.

OUR ROLE IS TO SUPPORT, UH, HER AS A TENANT.

AND AS A FELLOW MEMBER OF FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

GOOD QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER MEDINA, A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

UH, UH, COMMISSIONER COLEY? YES.

UH, YES.

SINCE YOU'RE EXPECTING A QUESTION, I GOT ONE FOR YOU.

, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GET FROM THIS BOARD? WE EXPECT EXPOSURE.

WE EXPECT TO OFFER, AS I SAID EARLIER, IN ADDITION TO THE YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE CHALLENGED WITH T-BALL AND SOCCER PRACTICE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT CHALLENGE

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WE'RE HOPING THAT SOME OF THESE FAMILIES WILL CHOOSE TO COME AND EXERCISE THEIR FAITH AT THE WOODS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OR ANY OTHER FAITH COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN REFER THEM TO.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT IN SO MANY YOUNG FAMILIES IS MISSING.

YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

SO THE FOUNDATION IS MOST IMPORTANT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT.

ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? UH, UH, VAUGHN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, PASTOR, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU AND YOUR CONGREGATION MEMBERS, UM, FOR COMING OUT AND STANDING IN SUPPORT OF WHAT Y'ALL HERE TO SUPPORT.

AND I WANT TO THANK OUR LEADERS AND OUR MEMBERS FOR COMING OUT ALSO.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MA'AM? WE HAVE ONE LAST SPEAKER.

I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

UH, DR.

TIMOTHY EPO WISHES TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

DR.

TIMOTHY IPO, 1444 DURANGO STREET, GRAND PRAIRIE, 7 5 0 5 1.

UM, I JUST, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY QUALITATIVE MANAGEMENT SUPPORT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIVING AND THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR ALL CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

IT IS A GOOD ONE THAT WILL INCREASE, UH, QUALITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT BOTH QUALITATIVELY AND COMPETITIVELY.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NO, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER CARDS, MAAM.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? UH, COMMISSIONER LUCKY VONG, IT'S, THIS IS YOUR STORY HERE.

DO YOU WANNA MAKE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION? ARE YOU PREPARED TO JUST MAKE THE MOTION? I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT.

AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHURCH MEMBERS AND THE PASTORS FOR COMING OUT.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SUP TWO FOUR DASH SEVEN WITH DRC AND PNZ RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM THREE BY COMMISSIONER LUCKY VONNE, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

NEXT ITEM IS A, UH, CPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND IT HAS A COMPANION ZONING AND CONCEPT PLAN.

NEXT CASE PLEASE.

[Items 4 & 5]

AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT BOTH OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PORTION.

UH, FIRST, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF OSLER DRIVE AND SOUTH GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

THE EX, UH, THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP DEPICTS OR CLASSIFIES THIS AREA AS MIXED USE AND THE PROPOSED, FOR SOME REASON, THE PROPOSED, UH, FUTURE LANGUAGE MAP, UH, AMENDMENT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR THE ZONE CHANGE PORTION.

UH, AGAIN, THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL ONE C ONE AND THE REQUEST IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE REQUEST IS TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN FOR FABRICATION, ASSEMBLY PLASTIC PRODUCT.

THAT'S THE LAND USE.

AND THE SITE IS OVER, UH, 10 ACRES.

HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UH, THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD ONE INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, UH, WHICH WOULD BE LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, UH, WITH THE 56 PARKING SPACES, INCLUDING TRUCK DOCKS ON THE EAST AND WEST, UH, SIDES OF THE FACADE HERE.

THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS, UH, THE EAST ELEVATION WILL BE FACING SOUTH SOUTHWEST PARKWAY AND THE WEST ELEVATION WILL BE BACKING UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

UH, WE DID SEND 62 NOTICES, UH, TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

WE DID RECEIVE TWO, UH, IN OPPOSITION.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

UH, AGAIN, A NOTE THAT THE TWO IN THAT WERE OPPOSING CAME FROM ONE ADDRESS.

THE TWO LETTERS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FLU.

IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, STAFF SUGGEST REMOVING SOME OF THE LAND USES.

AND TO SUMMARIZE, SOME OF THE LAND USES WILL BE THE AUTO RELATED BUSINESSES, THE WAREHOUSING, THE EXTERMINATION SERVICES, AND, UM, SOME MANUFACTURING USES, WHICH THEY WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO DO THE FABRICATION AND ASSEMBLY, UH, OF PLASTIC PRODUCTS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE BOARD

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BRIEFING.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, MA'AM.

UM, ANDY HAVEL WISHES TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

I'M ANDY HOVEL.

THE ADDRESS IS SIX 1509TH STREET, ARLINGTON, TEXAS 7 6 0 1 1.

ALSO WANTED TO INTRODUCE YEP.

BEN HAN GARTNER, UH, HBA DESIGN BUILD.

WE'RE THE, UH, DESIGN BUILDER, UM, 2 2 2 WEST WALNUT STREET, SOLAN, TEXAS 7 5 0 0 9.

I ASKED IF HE WOULD JOIN US TONIGHT TO, UH, HELP ADDRESS Y'ALL WITH ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS SO THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM ON THE SPOT.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME SPEAK HERE.

AND ABDUL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND PRESENTATION.

UH, IN SHORT SUMMARY, UH, WE HAVE A 50-YEAR-OLD PLASTIC INJECTION MOLDING COMPANY.

WE'VE BEEN LOCATED 1.5 MILES FROM THE CURRENT LOCATION.

AND THE MAIN REASON FOR THE MOVE IS VERY SIMPLE.

IF YOU WERE LEASING YOUR HOME FOR 50 YEARS, YOU MIGHT APPRECIATE AT SOME POINT THAT YOU OWN THE HOME.

AND THAT IS OUR GOAL HERE.

WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR TWO YEARS AND FOUND A SITE THAT WE, UH, WE DO LIKE, AND IT'S THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

AND THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, EXTENSIVE DESIGN TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH INJECTION MOLDING, THERE IS NO SMELL FROM OUR FACILITY.

I INVITE ANYONE BY ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR A TOUR.

THERE IS NO SOUND THAT YOU CAN HEAR OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM THE PRODUCTION THAT'S MADE AN EXAMPLE OF OUR TYPE OF PRODUCTS.

IF YOU'VE EVER GONE TO A WHATABURGER AND SAID NO ONIONS, THE STICKER THAT THEY PUT ON TOP OF YOUR BURGER IS ON A PLASTIC WHEEL THAT YOU DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO.

BEHIND THE COUNTER.

WE MAKE THAT PLASTIC WHEEL AS YOU ARE WALKING AMONG YOUR COMMUNITY HERE.

AND YOU SEE THERE'S A, UH, THEY'RE USUALLY BLACK IN COLOR, A WATER METER COVER THAT'S ABOUT 12 TO 16 INCHES.

AND IT SAYS CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.

WE MAKE THAT.

WE ALSO MAKE, IF YOU'RE IN A RESTAURANT AND AFTER, AT SOME POINT IN TIME THROUGH THE MEAL, AT THE VERY END, WHENEVER THEY'RE CLEANING UP FROM THE TABLE AND THERE'S A RED BUCKET THAT COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WATER AND THE SOAP AND THEY CLEAN, WE MAKE THE RED BUCKET.

WE MAKE A VARIETY OF A RANDOM PRODUCTS.

SO, COUPLE THINGS I DID WANNA POINT OUT THAT MAY NOT BE AS VISIBLE FROM JUST A COUPLE PICTURES.

ON THE DESIGN DRAWING, WHAT THE BUILDING ACTUALLY DOES IS IT SITS DOWN FROM THE GRADE EIGHT TO 12 FEET.

SO IT DROPS THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THAT.

IT ALSO PUTS ANY OF THE TRUCKS BELOW THAT LEVEL OF THE GRADE OF THE BUILDINGS BY THE RESIDENCE OF THIS BEHIND IT.

THE NEIGHBORS OF THIS AREA, IF YOU LOOK TO THE EAST, IS 1.6 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

IF WE LOOK TO THE SOUTH, UH, THERE'S A C STORE AND A BAR.

IF WE LOOK TO THE NORTH, UH, THERE'S NORTHEAST, THERE'S MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN LAND IN THE NORTH.

AND THEN THERE'S RESIDENCES TO THE WEST AT THE RESIDENCES TO THE WEST.

THERE'S CURRENTLY, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THEM.

ON THAT SIDE, THERE IS, UH, THE PARKING LOT FROM THOSE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE, THAT GOES ABOUT A FOOT FROM THEIR BACK FENCE.

THERE'S ALSO DUMPSTERS THAT ARE ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THEIR BACK FENCE.

CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP FOR US? IF YOU DON'T MIND? IT'S JUST EASIER TO AB ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THIS, LET'S SEE.

WELL, IT'S JUST RIGHT OUT OF THE MAP.

UM, IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MOUSE IS, IT'S IN, WHERE THESE HOMES ARE, WHERE THESE HOMES ARE, WHERE IT GOES UP ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES.

SO THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE HERE IF I POINT WITH THIS CURSOR, IS THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH OUR DESIGN PART OF THE CRITERIA.

OF THE PROCESS, UH, WE REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON, AND SAID, IN RESPECT OF ALL OF Y'ALL'S TIME, IN OUR TIME OF FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, AND THE SIGNIFICANT COST THAT WE PAY EACH OF OUR CONSULTANTS HOURLY THROUGH THIS, WE DON'T WANNA GO DOWN THIS ROAD IF THERE WAS A DEAD END AT IT.

PART OF THE CRITERIA HERE IS THAT WE HAVE A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM THE BUILDING.

SO HERE'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO.

IN AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, YOU'LL TYPICALLY HAVE ONE SIDE THAT IS ALL DOCK DOORS.

IF YOU NOTICE WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY LIGHTER VOLUME.

IT'S MORE OF A FABRICATION FACILITY.

SO WE TOOK THAT AND SAID, LET'S PUT ZERO DOCK DOORS ON THE SIDE TOWARDS THE RESIDENCES.

THEN WE SAID, HOW CAN WE DESIGN THIS TO HAVE EVEN MORE OF A BUFFER? THE BUILDING SITS 60 TO 90 FEET FROM A SIX FOOT MASONRY FENCE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING BEHIND THESE HOMES.

SO BEHIND THAT AREA, THERE'S A SIX FOOT MASONRY FENCE.

THERE'S 30 FEET OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL IN THAT 60 90 FEET, AN ADDITIONAL 30 TO ANOTHER 60 FEET FROM THERE TO THE BUILDING.

YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE'S A DRIVE ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

WHAT DOES THAT DRIVE FOR? IT IS NO ACCESS, EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO BASICALLY HAVE, IF WE CAN, A FENCE WITH A NOX BOX ON THAT SIDE TO BASICALLY SAY THERE'S ZERO ACTIVITY ON THAT SIDE.

I HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS I COULD COVER, BUT I WANNA BE AS COURTEOUS AND KIND OF ALL YOUR TIME HERE TONIGHT AWAY FROM YOUR JOBS AND YOUR FAMILIES.

SO, UM, THAT WAS A, A PERFECT PRESENTATION.

'CAUSE THAT WAS OUR CONCERN.

LOOKING AT IT ON FACE VALUE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS CLOSER.

Y YES, MA'AM.

AND, UM, ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA POINT OUT, 'CAUSE OUR, OUR GOAL WITH THIS, IN THE VERY BEGINNING

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SO WE HAD A, A WONDERFUL MEETING WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER, CLEMSON AND SEVERAL MEMBERS OF STAFF, AND APPRECIATE ALL THEIR TIME IN DOING THAT MM-HMM .

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ENCOURAGED US TO DO WAS TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICES THAT Y'ALL SENT OUT AND THE SIGNS THAT WE POSTED EVERY 400 FEET ON THE PROPERTY, WE PUT TOGETHER A FLYER.

AND ON THIS FLYER WE WENT AND HAD, UH, 60 COPIES OF THEM TAPED TO THE DOORS OF EVERY SINGLE, UH, RESIDENCE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WE WANTED TO DO OUR BEST WITH MY PERSONAL CONTACT INFORMATION AT THE BOTTOM TO SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE REACH OUT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

WELL, YOU HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

I THINK THE COM UM, COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAS QUESTIONS.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, LIGHTING, DID YOU HAVE PLANS ON LIGHTING ON THE BACK? WHAT'S THE SITUATION? BECAUSE THEY'VE MADE INVESTMENTS IN THEIR HOME AND CERTAINLY DON'T WANT YOUR LIGHT SHINING IN THEIR BACKYARD.

UM, SIMPLY PUT, WE'D LIKE TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE THAT NOT AN ISSUE AND HAVE IT SHINE TO THE GROUND, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTIVITY ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENT IS TO REALLY, IF UNLESS WE'RE REQUIRED BY SOMETHING THE CITY PUT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY LIGHTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND DO YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU MAY KNOW HOW, HOW MUCH HIGHER THE WALL IS, THE ROOF LINE IS TO THE MASONRY WALL.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE SHOWING? LIKE JUST STRAIGHT? YEAH, APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY 15 FEET ABOVE THE MASONRY WALL.

SO WE CAN GO BACK TO, HOW DO WE GO BACK? UM, THERE SOME ELEVATION VIEWS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE MASONRY WALL SOUTH ELEVATION.

UM, OH, IS THAT THE MASONRY WALL? THAT'S MASON.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GRADE.

AND, UH, AND, AND WELL THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF OUR RETAINING WALL.

NO, THE, THE NORTH, THE NORTH ELEVATION RIGHT THERE.

THAT WALL.

THAT SHOWS THE SEPARATION OF THE 60 TO 90 FEET THAT ANDY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

OH, OKAY.

THE RETAINING WALL THERE.

UH, AND THEN, AND THEN LINE OF SIGHT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU'LL SEE AS YOU'RE STANDING AT THAT SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 15 OR SO FEET ABOVE.

ABOVE THE, AND 60 TO 90 FEET BEHIND IT WITH OUR .

UM, I HAD ON ONE OF THE DRAWINGS WITH OUR, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO BACK HERE, BUT, UM, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, YEAH.

SO THE TREES THAT WE PLANTED WILL BE 12 TO 15 FOOT TALL WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED.

UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL GET, GET TALLER AS THEY MM-HMM .

AS THEY MATURE.

UM, COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

UM, DOCK NOISE, HOW OFTEN, WHAT IN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT, WHAT ARE YOUR WORKING HOURS? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY WANTED TO SUGGEST WITH THEM.

UH, PREVIOUSLY OUR SHIPPING HOURS ARE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

FROM 7:00 AM TO 2:30 PM OH, OKAY.

WE DO OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT THERE'S ZERO SHIPPING OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.

AND THAT'S THE PART THAT YOU CAN'T, IT'S OPERATING INSIDE.

YOU CAN'T HEAR OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, BEN CAN BE SO KIND AS TO KIND OF SHARE SOME OF THESE DRAWINGS REAL QUICK TO PASS AROUND WHAT THESE SHOW, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SEE IN JUST A, A FLAT DRAWING.

IS ACTUALLY, IT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THESE, IF YOU CAN, IS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE AND WHERE IT ATTEMPTS TO SHOW WHERE HOME WOULD BE.

THE LANDSCAPING, THE LARGE RETAINING WALL, AND THEN THE BUILDING.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE SITE THAT GOES TO JUST JUSTIFY WITH THAT.

NO.

UM, ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, YES MA'AM.

DID YOU HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF DOING ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE? WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE, MA'AM.

ANY OTHER QUE COMMISSIONER? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU DID ADDRESS THIS WITH THE NEIGHBOR, WITH THE RESIDENTS.

DID YOU RECEIVE ANY PHONE CALLS? I MEAN, DID THE TWO OPPOSITIONS HAPPEN TO CALL YOU AND MAYBE ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS? THEY DID NOT, AND WE DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT THEM, BUT WE WOULD BE MORE THAN OH, OKAY.

KIND OF TO VISIT WITH THEM OR TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND HELP ADDRESS 'EM AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

MAYBE THEY'LL BE SPEAKING HERE IN A MINUTE.

THEY, YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

NOW IS, DO YOU JUST SERVICE, UH, THE GRAND PRAIRIE AREA? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER VENDORS YOU SERVICE OUTSIDE THE GRAND PRAIRIE AREA? UM, WE SERVICE, UH, NATIONWIDE.

IT'S CONSIDERED LIGHT MANUFACTURING

SO YES MA'AM.

GOOD.

AND IT, IT HELPS THAT WE'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY KIND OF IN THE CENTER OF THE UNITED STATES FOR THAT, SO MM-HMM .

UM, I WASN'T SURE THE RIGHT POINT TO BRING THIS UP, BUT ACTUALLY OUT OF THE RECOMMENDED LIST THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE USES THAT WE WOULD STILL NEED TO ACCOMMODATE OUR USE THAT ARE ON THERE.

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MACHINE SHOP.

WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN OUR, UNDER OUR CURRENT 75,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.

WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT WORK ON SOME MACHINE SHOP MACHINES.

SO THAT'S JUST OUT OF JUST CLARIFYING SOME OF THIS WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

I MEAN, THERE'S OUT OF A BUILDING, THERE ARE PALLETS AND RACKS THAT WE USE IN THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVE THAT WITH ANY MEMBERS OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL ON A TOUR TO SHOW YOU THAT.

SO, BUT THAT IS A TECHNICAL POINT.

THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS WITH, UH, WITH RASH OR SAVANNAH, I MEAN, AS TO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT? ADDING THOSE TWO BACK TO THE, UM, THE REALM, IF IT'S A PART OF THEIR OPERATION? UH, I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH IT.

UM, THEY NEED TO OPERATE.

SO , IT KIND OF IS WHAT IT IS.

UH, IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL, LIKE, LET'S SEE, YOU SAID LIGHT MANUFACTURING IS ASSOCIATED WITH JUST THE PROCESS ITSELF FOR THE, THE PLASTICS? YES, SIR.

UM, THERE'S JUST MULTIPLE STAGES THAT KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE RAW MATERIAL, MAKING IT THE MACHINE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, WITHOUT GETTING TOO DETAILED, UH, IT'S BASICALLY JUST, LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU ASSEMBLED A COUPLE PIECES TO IT AND THEN YOU HAVE HALF THE FACILITY, THEN THAT TURNS OUT TO BE LIKE THE WAREHOUSE FOR IT.

UM, ALL WITH LOW VOLUME BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY JUST A FULL TRUCKLOAD THAT WE SHIP IN.

WE DON'T CHIP LIKE IN A SINGLE ITEM.

I THINK SAVANNAH HAD A COMMENT AS WELL.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT STAFF'S CONCERN WAS HAVING A WHOLE WAREHOUSE FACILITY THERE.

UH, AND E E-COMMERCE, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF TRUCK TRAFFIC AND DOCK DOORS UP AND DOWN.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY, UH, WHAT THE CITY RECEIVES COMPLAINTS ABOUT AGAINST, FROM ADJACENT RESIDENCES.

BUT WE DO, WE WOULD CLASSIFY THIS AS THE, UH, UH, FABRICATION FOR PLASTIC PARTS.

MM.

WE, WE'D BE OKAY LEAVING E-COMMERCE FULFILLMENT CENTER OFF OF THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

'CAUSE I, I AGREE THEY WOULD NEED A SIGNIFICANT, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD RESPECTFULLY, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD RENT OUR BUILDING IF IT, THIS WAS DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE.

WE WEREN'T IN IT MM-HMM .

UM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AMOUNT OF DOORS.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF STAFF IS OKAY WITH THIS, IF WE NEED TO TABLE IT FOR YOU TO GET THE SPECS OF SPECIFICS FOR SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

NO, Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT, THAT WILL BE MY CONCERN.

I, I'M FINE WITH IT.

I'M FINE WITH LEAVING LIGHT MANUFACTURING WITHIN THE ALLOWED USES.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO, IF P AND Z HAD CONCERNS, IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GET MORE SPECIFIC AND SAY LIGHT MANUFACTURING FOR PLASTICS, YOU COULD DO THAT.

WHOEVER'S GONNA DO THAT ONE .

LIGHT MANUFACTURING MACHINE SHOP, WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, DISTRIBUTION.

DID YOU GET THAT ADDITIONALLY? UH, YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT THE WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION PORTION NOT EXCEED.

IS IT 50% OF YOUR BUILDING? YES, SIR.

SO IT'S INTENDED AS MORE OF AN ACCESSORY USE RATHER THAN A PRIMARY USE.

SO MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER ALL THAT.

SAVANNAH .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FOR THESE GENTLEMEN? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR LIGHTING QUESTION.

THE, UM, THE CITY WILL REQUIRE US THROUGH OUR BUILDING PERMITS AND APPLICATIONS TO PROVIDE A, UM, UM, A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN MM-HMM .

UH, AND SO WE'LL SHOW THAT AT THE PROPERTY LINE THERE IS ZERO FOOT CANDLES AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

THERE'LL BE SHIELDING ALL DOWN LIT MM-HMM .

THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST ENOUGH TO TO, TO MANEUVER AND, AND WALK AROUND THE BUILDING MM-HMM .

AND, AND AT, IN THE EVENING HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT MM-HMM .

AND OF COURSE CRIME DISLIKES LIGHT.

SO WE DEFINITELY NEED LIGHT.

WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.

I'M TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT IN MY MIND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FABRICATION AND MANUFACTURING.

THERE.

ARE YOU NOT, UM, YOU NOT MANUFACTURING ANY, MOST OF IT IS ALREADY MANUFACTURING AND YOU'RE JUST ASSEMBLING IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? UM, WE, WE DO MAKE IT, I GUESS THE EASIEST WAY I COULD, UH, MAKE IT A SHORT ANSWER WOULD BE THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU WOULD MAKE ICE CUBES IN YOUR FREEZER IS THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE INJECTION MOLD PARTS.

SO WE BASICALLY MELT THE PLASTIC, IT GOES INTO A MOLD, AND THEN IT COMES OUT INTO THE SHAPE OF WHATEVER THE MOLD MOLD WAS.

AND, UM, SOME PEOPLE THEN SAY THAT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL POWER THEMSELVES.

SO THEN WE'RE THE ONES THAT PUT THE ITEM IN A BOX, PUT THE INSTRUCTIONS WITH IT, MAYBE PUT, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD GO WITH IT, A BATTERY, A MM, A LITTLE PACKAGING MM-HMM .

AND THEN, UH, STORE IT FOR 'EM AND THEN SHIP IT OUT.

AND THERE'S NO SMELLED OR SOUND THAT COMES OUT OF, THERE IS NO SMELL OR SOUND OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHT AND DETAIL.

TWO YEARS OF LOOKING AND, AND WE WON GRAND PRAIRIE .

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT,

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WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKER.

UM, ESIA CAMPBELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HER OPPOSITION ON THIS ITEM.

AND DARRELL CAMPBELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO MORE CARDS THAT'S, THAT'S OF CONCERN THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DETECT THE REASON FOR THE OPPOSITION IF THEY DON'T SPEAK.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, UH, GIVE WEIGHT TO THAT.

I THINK HE WANTS TO SPEAK.

CAN YOU, DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK SIR? I'M HERE.

CAN YOU COME UP AND SPEAK? WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY YOU'RE THE OPPOSITION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.

GOOD EVENING.

AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DARRELL CAMPBELL.

MAKE SURE YOU GET IN THE MICROPHONE.

MY NAME IS DARRELL CAMPBELL.

UH, MY ADDRESS IS 9 1 6 FURLONG DRIVE.

SO WITH THE, UH, PLANNING THE PLAN, THE CONTROL PLAN THAT THE PREVIOUS PRESENTERS HAD UP, HE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCRETE, UM, FENCING MM-HMM .

SO OUR HOUSE WOULD SIT ON RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE.

SO WE HAVE A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT UP, SIR.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

SO YOU CAN, WE CAN SEE THAT WITH YOU.

SO HERE, UH, ON THE BACKSIDE WHERE THE, WHERE THE STONE FENCING IS, OUR HOUSE WOULD SET THAT ROW JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCING AND TO OPPOSED, HUH? I, I, MY NEIGHBORS DID NOT MAKE IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO OUR OPPOSITION TO THAT WOULD BE TYPICAL, UH, NOISE.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE PRESENTERS BEFORE ME SPOKE OF, UH, NO SOUNDS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT THEN HE TALKED ABOUT SHIPPING.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF NOISE FROM THE SHIPPING AND, UM, AND, AND TRAFFIC.

ALREADY THE OSLER AND GREAT SOUTHWEST.

THAT IS A VERY, VERY BUSY INTERSECTION AND WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC THERE AS WELL.

UM, BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT, SIR, JUST WANNA MA'AM ADD, ADD SOMETHING.

I REMEMBER THE THEM TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH SPACE AND UH, DENSITY WAS GONNA BE BETWEEN THE ACTUAL YOUR HOMES AND THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE IN BETWEEN, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE GETTING THE EFFECT OF THAT.

I THINK THAT, IF I HEARD THAT CORRECTLY, IS THAT, WAS I RIGHT ON THAT RASHAD? YEAH.

THEY, THEY DESIGNED THE BUILDING TO CONSIDER THE NOISE AND THE LIGHTING AND, UM, DOCK DOORS WERE NOT FACING THAT AREA.

SO, AND THE LANDSCAPING AND RETAINING WALLS ARE INTENDED TO HELP ADDRESS THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE IN BETWEEN, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET IT IS.

I, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK UP TO SAY THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I THINK IT'S, THEY TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, HUGE CONSIDERATION, AND THEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS TO, TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT SEEMED LIKE THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO TRY TO WORK ON THAT.

AND, AND, AND I DID HEAR THE PRESIDENT, THE PRESENTER MM-HMM .

AND HE DID SAY ABOUT THE SPACE, BUT I TOO WASN'T SURE WHEN, WHEN THEY SPOKE AT THE SPACE, HOW MANY FEET THERE WAS AND SO FORTH.

UM, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A ROW OF TREES PLANTED.

YES, SIR.

COULD YOU COME BACK UP? IS THAT CORRECT? AND, AND, AND JUST TO RESTATE THAT, JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD.

'CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE, WOULD YOU, YOU, YOU LAID IT OUT AS TO THE SPACING IN BETWEEN FROM THE HOUSE TO THE WALL.

HE, ANDY, PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.

YES, NICE TO MEET YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD JUST A LITTLE BIT.

MY NAME IS ANDY HOVEL.

I'M WITH METRO CUSTOM PLASTICS.

UM, TO BE QUITE CANDID, THERE'S A LIST FROM THE CITY OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT IN THAT AREA.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT TYPE OF TREES OR, UH, ITEMS THEY WANT US TO PUT.

I JUST KNOW IT'S A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE CITY BASICALLY TELLS US WE NEED TO PLANT MM-HMM .

UM, AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO SO.

I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE MASON, NEW WALL, THE TREES.

AND THEN BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUILDING, THERE WAS MORE SPACE, THE SPACING IN BETWEEN.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO.

UM, SO LET'S SEE HERE.

UH, AND IT WAS DARL DARL.

COULD YOU, WHICH ONE IS YOUR HOUSE THAT'S BACK HERE? .

LET'S SEE HOW, WHERE, WHERE IS, UH, WE'RE PROBABLY RIGHT IN HERE.

63 FEET TO ABOUT 90 FEET IN THE MIDDLE.

SO, UH, DARL POINTED TO THIS AREA RIGHT IN HERE.

AND AS THERE'S A CURVE TO THE PROPERTY HERE AT THE NARROWEST POINT HERE, IT IS 60 FEET, ACTUALLY, IT'S ABOUT 63 FEET FROM THE FENCE TO THE BUILDING.

THE FIRST 30 FEET OF THAT IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

AND THEN THIS AREA, BECAUSE OF THE CURVE GETS WIDER FROM

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AND THEN BACK DOWN HERE, UH, ON THE SAME ON THIS SIDE.

CAN I, UH, ALSO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC REAL QUICK? MM-HMM .

FOR WHAT? IT'S, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IN THE, UH, IN THE AREA THAT THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL ONE C ONE AND WITH A OVERLAY FOR MIXED USE MM-HMM .

IN A RETAIL TYPE SETTING, UM, WITH A, YOU KNOW, RETAIL BUILDING HERE, YOU WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE IN THE BACK, UH, WHERE THEY WOULD EMPTY THE GREASE TRAPS FOR A RETAIL TYPE SETUP.

ON THIS SIDE, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OTHER THAN ACCESS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THIS PART OF THE BUILDING.

FROM A TRUCKING STANDPOINT.

UM, WE HAVE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY TO ARTICULATE THE LEASE.

WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS WITH THE CITY, WITH KIND OF A STUDY, BRIEF STUDY OF LIKE COUNTING HOW MANY TRUCKS THAT WE HAD.

AND IT WAS AN EXCESSIVELY LOW NUMBER.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

BUT IT WAS, WE CURRENTLY USE ONE DOOR AT ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND TWO ON THE OTHER.

AND WITHOUT THOSE GETTING BLOCKED UP, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE TO SIX TRUCKS A DAY.

UM, THE TRA THAT PART BEING DURING THE, UH, DAY HOURS.

SO IF YOU'RE, LIKE, IF YOU'RE AT YOUR JOB, IT WOULD BE DURING THOSE HOURS AS OPPOSED TO NOT, NOT IN THE EVENINGS.

WHAT WERE THOSE HOURS AGAIN? IT'S, UH, 7:00 AM TO 2:30 PM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

DOES THAT AN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SOME OF THEM, SIR.

AND MY LAST QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND, AND I COMMISSIONER ASKED ABOUT THE LIGHTING BEFORE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOME MORE ABOUT THE LIGHTING SINCE OUR HOUSE DOES BACK UP TO, RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

YES, SIR.

UM, THERE'S A PART OF THE STUDY THAT, I'M TRYING TO PUT SOME OF THIS TOGETHER HERE.

I'LL LET YOU, I WAS GONNA ATTEMPT TO GO YES.

THERE, WE HAVE TO DO A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN.

AND SO THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN BASICALLY TAKES THE ENTIRE SITE, TAKES THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THE LIGHTS THAT ARE REQUIRED, UH, TO, TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN FOOT CANDLE.

SO FOOT CANDLE, BASICALLY, I THINK RIGHT UNDERNEATH THIS IS PROBABLY 30 FOOT CANDLE.

SO THAT'S HOW BRIGHT THIS IS BY THE PROPERTY LINE.

WE, IT WILL BE ZERO FOOT CANDLE, SO IT'LL BE DARK AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED FOR, UM, FOR, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS WALKING AROUND THE BUILDING IS ONLY ONE FOOT CANDLE.

SO, SO WE WILL MAKE IT AS, AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE AND IT WILL BE ZERO AT THE, AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

UM, SO IT WILL NOT BE LIKE THIS .

SO WALKING OUT OF MY BACK, MY BACK PORCH, I WILL, UH, NOT SEE LIGHT.

THE LIGHT.

YOU SHOULDN'T, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SO, AND, AND THEN GOING BACK TO THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS WEST ELEVATION IS THE, IS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

AND RIGHT ABOUT, PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THERE, THAT, THAT LINE THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE, THAT'S ABOUT WHERE THE LIGHTS WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE.

AND THE WAY THAT THEY COME OUT, THEY COME OUT FROM THE BUILDING LIKE THIS AND THEY SHINE STRAIGHT DOWN.

AND SO THE THROW OF THE LIGHT, I DON'T EVEN, I THINK THAT THE 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE WOULD GET 30, IT'S CLOSE TO 30 FEET AWAY FROM YOUR PROPERTY WITH THAT LIGHT.

UH, SO I, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE ANY, ANY PROBLEM THERE.

THAT, THAT, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT STATED CORRECTLY FOR THE RECORD.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, OTHER, NO MORE SPEAKER? NO MORE SPEAKER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, WHO IS GOING TO, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

TWO ITEMS. CAN WE DO 'EM AT THE SAME TIME OR NO? CAN WE DO OKAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FOUR AND FIVE CPA 2 4 0 7 0 0 1 1 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND, UM, ZERO N 2 4 0 7 0 0 2 0.

AND I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE BOTH WITH THE, UM, CAVEAT OF REMOVING THE LIMITATIONS OF USE, UM, REMOVING AND ALLOWING FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING FOR PLASTICS, UM, WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, NOT TO EXCEED 50% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MACHINE SHOP DESIGNATION.

AND OTHERWISE, YOU'RE APPROVING WITH THE DRC TION, CORRECT? YES.

AT ALL.

WITH THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEMS FLOOR AND FIVE BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ BASED ON DRC RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE ADDITIONALLY NEW ADD ITEMS, I'M NOT GONNA EVEN TRY TO STATE IT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE, UH, OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

NEXT ITEM.

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ALSO, SO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A ZONE CHANGE SLASH CONCEPT PLAN.

GOOD JOB.

ITEM SIX AND SEVEN ARE COMPANION ITEMS. UH,

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UH, I WILL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF ARKANSAS LANE AND SOUTH GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

THE CURRENT EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THIS AREA IS LIGHT, UH, MIXED USE.

AND THE PROPOSED IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR THE ZONING PORTION.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, PD 4 21, WHICH IS FOR TOWNHOUSE USE.

THE REQUEST IS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THE REQUEST IS TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN, UH, FOR TWO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES ON 10 ACRES.

UH, THE TWO BUILDINGS COMBINED HAS A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1000, UH, 141,000, 1 46 SQUARE FOOT WITH 171 PARKING SPACES, INCLUDING TRUCK DOCKS.

THEY HAVE DESIGNED THE TRUCK DOCKS, SO, UH, MOSTLY THAT IT CANNOT BE SEEN FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THESE ARE THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS, WHICH ARE, UH, TO MEET APPENDIX X AND UUD C REQUIREMENTS.

WHEN IT COMES FOR SITE PLAN, UH, THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

WE DID SEND OUT 58 NOTICES, UH, TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE EXISTING ZONING BETTER ADHERES TO THE FUTURE LAND MAP DEVELOPMENT INTENT FOR THE AREA.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? ABDUL? COMMISSIONER MADDEN, DO YOU, UM, DO YOU KNOW IS THE, THE CURRENT LANDOWNER THAT IS PROPOSING THIS CHANGE, THE SAME ONE THAT ASKS FOR THE CHANGE TO, I AM NOT SURE, BUT YOU DON'T, MR. LEY IS HERE, WHO'S THE APPLICANT AND HE CAN SHED SOME MORE LIGHT ON THAT.

OKAY? MM-HMM .

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ABDU? THANK YOU.

SPEAKER CARDS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY MR. TOOLEY.

JUST SPEAK.

HELLO, MR. TOLEY.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

WELL, UH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRPERSON IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

A LITTLE FULL DISCLOSURE HERE, UH, WHEN I WAS WITH THE CITY, I WAS THE PLANNER THAT HANDLED THE REZONING, SO MM-HMM .

LITTLE I REMEMBER YOUR FACE.

I GUESS IT'D BE THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

FULL CIRCLE HERE.

SO, .

UM, WELL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR ITEM, UH, TONIGHT.

UM, YES, WE DID REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO TOWN HOMES IN, I THINK IT WAS 21.

UM, A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN IN THE ECONOMY.

UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS SITE.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING.

IT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE TOWN HOMES, UH, VERY WELL DUE TO, UH, EXISTING SEWER ISSUES WITH THE GRADE.

UM, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN LIKE 40,000 CUBIC YARDS OF DIRT TO RAISE THE SITE TO MAKE THE SEWER WORK.

SO IT'S KIND OF MADE THE TOWN HOMES, UM, PROJECT KIND OF, IT'S DEAD.

SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS, UH, TRANSITION THIS PROPERTY INTO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ONE MATCHES THE EXISTING AREA, BUT TWO, IT WILL WORK WITH, UH, OUR CIVIL PLANS AND, UH, WE'LL ABLE BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

UM, ALSO, AGAIN, BACK WHEN WE REZONED THIS PROPERTY, INTEREST RATES WERE, UM, MORE IN FAVOR OF THE LANDOWNER TODAY.

IT IS NOT, IT MAKES IT HARD TO FINANCE THESE TYPE OF HOMES AND, AND ALSO THEN RESELL THEM.

ALSO, WE, WHEN WE REZONE THIS COUNCIL WANTED AS A FOR SALE PRODUCT AND TO ALSO MAKE IT AS A FOR SALE PRODUCT, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A PENCIL AND, UH, ATTRACT HOME BUYERS AT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.

UM, ALSO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, UM, FROM WHEN I SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION TILL NOW, I SHED 15% OF THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE BY WORKING WITH STAFF, GIVING UP RIGHT OF WAY, INCREASING THE, THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUILDING.

UM, I THINK WE'RE AROUND 75 FEET AWAY FROM THE, THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL.

WE'LL HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL.

WE'LL HAVE EVERGREEN SCREENING IN FRONT OF THE WALL.

UM, WE FACE THE DOCKS, SO IT'S NOT FACING THE RESIDENTS.

UM, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE, SO WE'LL BE VERY C UH, CONSCIOUS OF THAT WITH TENANTS 'CAUSE THIS IS SPECULATIVE FOR NOW.

UM, AND WE'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE SURE THE DOCK DOORS, BUT WITH THE WING WALLS HAD A LOT OF BUFFER.

AND ALSO, WE'LL ALSO TRY TO RETRAIN, RETAIN AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN.

THERE'S A LOT OF TREES KIND OF ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE, AND THAT'S OUR GOAL TO, IF WE CAN SAVE SOME, WE WANT TO.

UM, ALSO, UH, THE OWNER AND I, LAST WEDNESDAY MET WITH ABOUT 12 OR 14 OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I GUESS ARE THE IMMEDIATE, UH, HOMES ON THE,

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WE WENT AND KNOCKED ON DOORS.

UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION.

UM, AND WE HAD ABOUT FIVE OR SIX THAT DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR.

BUT EVERYONE, UM, AGREED WITH OUR KIND OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND ALSO THAT WE'D BE KINDA LIMITING THE DENSITY IN THE AREA OF RESIDENTIAL.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT.

WE'D GO INTO SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS TRAFFIC.

UM, WE WORKED WITH TRANSPORTATION TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN WORK.

UM, WELL FOR THIS SITE TO BE SAFE ALSO, WE'LL BE, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE, UM, TO THE SITE ON ARKANSAS THAT'LL BE A NO TRUCK POSTED ON THAT ENTRANCE.

SO WE'LL TRY TO LIMIT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S REALLY JUST THERE BECAUSE OF FIRE CODE.

UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ALSO ACCOMMODATE WITH STAFF, BUT ALSO TRY TO MAKE THIS A FEASIBLE PROJECT AND STILL WORK WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED A PROBLEM WITH THE SEWER, THE SEWAGE AND ALL OF THAT, AND THAT AND THAT.

DID YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY DONE? BECAUSE THE TOWN HOMES AND, UH, WAREHOUSES IS STILL, YOU'RE STILL BUILDING.

IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM.

IT'S, IT'S A CIVIL PROBLEM.

IT'S A DRAINAGE.

ESSENTIALLY GOING DOWN.

IT'S GOT A DRAIN DOWNHILL MM-HMM .

UM, WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, WAREHOUSES, WE'VE ONLY GOT TWO WAREHOUSES TO DRAIN AND WE CAN CONNECT KIND OF IMMEDIATELY TO THE SEWER, WHEREAS WE HAVE A HUNDRED TOWN HOMES, IT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT WORK.

MM, OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT WAS MY, MY CONCERN.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.

UH, JUST WONDERING, THE, THE HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE ACTUAL HOMES? YEAH, YOU ON THE EAST? SURE.

UM, TYPICALLY THESE BUILDINGS HAVE ABOUT A 28 FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT, SO MAYBE AROUND 35 FEET IS PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD SAY.

40 FEET IS SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.

BUT WITH THE 70 FOOT BUFFER AND AN EIGHT FOOT, UH, MASONRY WALL, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, IT WILL BE MINIMAL.

NOW, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL IS THIS WILL BLOCK A LOT OF NOISE COMING THROUGH WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE BUILDING.

UM, AND, AND, AND, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS KIND OF AN ISSUE DURING THE ZONING FOR THE TOWN HOMES MM-HMM .

UH, WE DID A NOISE STUDY WITH THAT.

AND SO WE KIND OF THINK THIS IS KIND OF TWO PRONGED THAT IT WILL, UM, CUT DOWN ON THAT.

AND ALSO YOU WON'T HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO AND THREE STORY TOWN HOMES THAT COULD LOOK DOWN THE BACKYARDS.

SO I THINK WE KIND OF KNOCKED TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY HAD THIS BUILDING A LOT CLOSER, BUT WITH STAFF AND WE ADDED, WE ADDED THE 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER JUST TO BUFFER IT EVEN MORE.

SO THEN, SO WHOEVER, UH, ON THE, ON THIS WAREHOUSE, THE SPECS BEING, THEY'RE GONNA INHERIT THE NOISE AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM.

YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO DO THAT.

YEAH, I MEAN, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES HAS A VERY STRICT ORDINANCE.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

TYPICALLY, DEPENDING ON THE USE, THEY MAKE YOU DO A STUDY OF BUILDING PERMIT MM-HMM .

JUST TO EVALUATE, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER COMPENSATORY MEASURES TO ELIMINATE ANY NOISE.

BUT THEY DO THAT AT BUILDING PERMIT TO LOOK AT THE TENANT AND LOOK AT THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN.

SO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, ONE MORE COMMENT.

CONSIDERING THE FIRST ROUND, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, JUST, UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY NOISE OR JUST A LOT OF COMMENTS BEING MADE SURE THERE WAS, UH, I HEAR 58 NOTICES AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE WAS NO ONE IN SUPPORT OR FOR THAT MATTER IN OPPOSITION, WHICH I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.

I GUESS, UH, UH, NOBODY, UH, SAY THEY DON'T, UH, AGREE WITH IT.

SO I GUESS TO YOUR POINT, IT MIGHT, MIGHT GO WITH THE, UH, SON BARRIER TO, YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, 40%, 30 OR 40% OF THE HOMES WE KNOCKED ON DIDN'T EVEN ANSWER THE DOOR.

SO, AND THEN ONE OF THEM WAS A RENTER, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T CARE.

IT'S NOT THEIR HOME.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE, UH, WE DID THIS ABOUT A WEEK AGO, AND AGAIN, WE, WE HAD REALLY NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, I HAVE A STAFF, SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES YOU EXPECT TO WORK AT THAT FACTORY? SO THIS IS SPECULATIVE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES WOULD BE.

UH, THE SITE HAS, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED, 110 PARKING SPACES.

IF THEY COULD FILL THE WHOLE PARKING LOT UP, GREAT.

THERE'D BE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES, BUT, YOU KNOW, EACH BUILDING MIGHT HAVE 30 EMPLOYEES.

I, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK UNTIL WE GET TO AN APPLICANT, UH, A TENANT IN TOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?

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THIS, UH, I THANK YOU.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

UM, FIRST SPEAKER OR ROSA EZ, UH, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, UH, BUT WANTS TO RECORD HER OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

NEXT.

MICHAEL SMITH DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM AS WELL.

UM, WELL THAT MAKES IT KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR US TO KNOW THE DETAILS.

IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEAK UNLESS YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND AND SPEAK, SIR, I CAN.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, THEY GIVE US A BETTER, CAN, CAN YOU COME UP PLEASE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? WILL JUST GIVE US A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, IF WE KNOW WHY.

YOU'RE OPPOSING IT? YES, MA'AM.

UM, MICHAEL SMITH, 24 63 CANYON SPRINGS DRIVE.

NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THIS PROPERTY, BUT PRETTY CLOSE RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SILVERADO SPRINGS.

UM, AND SORRY, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, SO I WASN'T SURE HOW TO MM-HMM .

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, MY OPPOSITION IS PRIMARILY, UH, THE CLOUD ROOTED IN THE CLASSIC CONCERN OF NOISE.

I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER AS A, FOR MY CAREER, AND I WORK IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA.

AND I KNOW EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN TRY TO CONTROL WHAT YOUR TRUCKS AND WHAT YOUR INDUSTRIAL USE WILL BE, YOU GET DISGRUNTLED TRUCK DRIVERS THAT ARE IMPATIENT.

THEY'LL BE HONKING THEIR HORNS DURING THE DAY.

AND I WORK FROM HOME TWICE A WEEK, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOME DURING THE DAY.

THIS NOISE COULD BECOME AN ISSUE THERE.

UM, THE OTHER ISSUE OF COURSE, IS BACKUP BEEPING OF VEHICLES.

IT'S REQUIRED FOR SAFETY, BUT IT CARRIES VERY FAR.

AND I KNOW THE SHAPE IS DESIGNED TO TRY TO HELP, BUT I WOULD STILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT CARRYING OVER, UM, THE PLANE NOISE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF BLOCKING PLANE NOISE, BUT TRUCK BEEPING, IT'S JUST HARDER TO GET USED TO.

SO MY OTHER CONCERNS WOULD BE, IF THIS IS ZONED AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECTS ON AIR QUALITY NEARBY? BECAUSE THIS IS SPECULATIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF FACILITIES, WHAT KIND OF COMPANIES WILL BE INHERITING THIS AREA OR LEASING THE BUILDINGS ONCE THEY'RE COMPLETED? UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.

IT, THE INTERSECTION OF ARKANSAS AND GREAT SOUTHWEST IS NOT IDEAL FOR TRUCKS TURNING ALREADY.

THEY STRUGGLE SOMETIMES AND THEY RUN OVER THE CURBS.

AND I KNOW THAT AT LEAST ON THE INTERSECTION ON THE QUADRANT THAT THIS WILL BE INSTALLED ON, THEY COULD MAYBE FIX SOME OF THAT, UH, CURVE FOR BETTER TRUCK TURNING, BUT THAT WOULDN'T ACCOUNT FOR ON THE AIRPORT SIDE OR ANY OF THE OTHER CORNERS.

MY OTHER CONCERNS WOULD BE, LEMME JUST CHECK, I DID HAVE SOMETHING ELSE WRITTEN HERE.

OH, YES.

THE SILVERADO SPRINGS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOWING THE NATIVE FIELD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY COULD ACCESS THAT AREA AFTER THIS, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, UH, WE JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT ACCESS IS MAINTAINED SO THAT THAT GRASS CAN BE MOWED.

WOW.

RESIDENTS, UH, FREQUENTLY REQUEST THAT THAT AREA IS MM-HMM .

UH, MAINTAINED.

THESE ARE VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.

AND THE ONE ABOUT THE PI AND THE LAWN MOWING, WHO, WHO'S GONNA TAKE THAT? THE SAVANNAH OR, OR RASHAD? I CAN TAKE IT.

I, I, WE WOULD NEED TO VERIFY WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

UM, IF IT'S WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN THAT.

SO, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, WITH REGARD TO ACCESS, I GUESS, LET'S SEE IF YOU GO AHEAD.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, I'LL PULL UP A MAP SO WE CAN, AND THIS IS, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY I'M TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS I COULD POINT TO IT ON THIS MAP.

IS IT HERE? YEAH.

SO IT'S THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.

IT'S, AND IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY OVER TO FALL DRIVE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS.

A MEANS FOR Y'ALL TO, FOR THEM TO SHIFT THE FENCE LIKE THAT, IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS.

COMMON.

BUT ON FALL DRIVE, THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF TREES AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET ACCESS THROUGH THAT AREA BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THE PROPERTY ENDS AT A VERY TIGHT CORNER WHERE THE PUBLIC IMPROVE DISTRICTS DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT AREA.

UM, WE CAN VERIFY IF THIS IS APPROVED WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT THE FENCE ON THAT BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WHERE I'M LOOKING AT IS ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE, IF THERE'S

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UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU WOULD NEED TO GET ACCESS THROUGH THE, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG HERE.

SO RASHAD, LOOKING AT THE PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END OF FALL DRIVE, THERE'S JUST A DEAD END KIND OF, NOT A CUL-DE-SAC, BUT A DEAD END THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY OPEN.

AND THEY COULD ACCESS FROM THERE AND THEN HEAD WEST ALONG THERE.

IT'S NORTH OF THE LITTLE CREEK.

IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S SOME TREES BLOCKING IT OR NO, THAT, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THE TREES ARE BLOCKING THE BLOCK IN EXHIBIT A MAP ONE LOCATION MAP, YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT AREA REALLY CLEARLY.

IF YOU CAN GET TO IT, IT'S NOT ON THE PRESENTATION, SO, OH, SHOOT.

IT'S IN THE PACKET.

IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN FI FIGURE OUT AFTER THE FACT.

UM, AS LONG AS THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR.

UH, AND IF THAT, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO THAT DIRECTION, THEN THE PUBLIC IMPROVE IT IN DISTRICT MAY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TREES BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NO ROOM TO GET A MOWER THROUGH THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.

SO BIG PICTURE, WHAT IS YOUR, YOUR MAIN OVERALL CONCERN IS JUST THE, ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THEN WHAT, IS THAT THE BIG, BIG ITEM? BECAUSE YOU HAD A LOT OF ITEMS ON THERE.

PRIMARY CONCERN IS JUST THE EFFECT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NOISE, AIR POLLUTION.

AND, UH, IF IT IS DEVELOPED THAT UH, THE SIDEWALKS ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR BICYCLE TRAFFIC AND THEY CONNECT TO OTHER SIDEWALKS MM-HMM .

AND THAT THERE IS A SIDEWALK INSTALLED ON THIS MAP ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

UH, THESE ARE SOME VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, VERY THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS.

TO ADDRESS.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THOSE A OKAY.

UH, MR. TOOLEY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO STAY OR STAY? YES.

YOU JUST STAY.

HE'S RIGHT HERE.

SO I WOULD SAY FOR THE SIDEWALK, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO PUT THAT IN REGARDLESS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE GIVING UP 10 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE STREET THERE.

SO THAT'LL BE MORE RIGHT OF WAY LANDSCAPING FOR THE PUBLIC ALONG THERE.

UM, IN REGARDS TO POLLUTION, IT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

IT IS, I THINK, I GUESS LOW INTENSITY IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL, THE INTENT IS TO BE A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF POLLUTION.

UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE, YOU CAN'T IDLE YOUR TRUCKS FOR SO LONG WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS.

AND I, IN FACT, WHEN WE, UH, WENT, MET ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH ONE OF THE WAREHOUSES TO THE SOUTH AS EXISTING, IN FACT, I RECOMMENDED TO THEM, YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE CITY AND JUST MAKE THAT ISSUE KNOWN.

SO I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT CITIZENS MAY NEED TO JUST KNOW THAT AND GO, UH, MEANS OF THAT CHANNEL, JUST LETTING THE CITY KNOW AND ENFORCING THAT, THE NOISE.

BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO NOT GET VERY INTENSE USERS IN THESE TYPE OF SCENARIOS.

I WILL JUST CLOSE MY COMMENTS SAYING, UH, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

AND, UH, TRUCK DRIVERS WILL HONK THEIR HORNS.

THERE WILL BE BACKUP BEEPING, AND, UM, WHATEVER GOES IN THERE, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY OF AIR POLLUTION OR SOME SORT OF AIR QUALITY EFFECTS IN OUR AREA.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THOSE ARE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER CARDS, MA'AM.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, MA'AM WITH REGARD TO WHY YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION OR IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THE SAME? UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND WAITING SO LONG.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS ROSA TEEZ AND 20, MY ADDRESS IS 24 63 CANYON SPRINGS DRIVE.

AND ADDING TO THE CONCERNS OF, UH, MY HUSBAND, THERE IS ANOTHER, UM, WAREHOUSE BEING BUILT AT THE OPPOSITE END.

SO ALREADY WE HAVE TOO MANY, UM, WAREHOUSES BEING BUILT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THE AREA COULD BE BETTER USED FOR, FOR OUR CHILDREN, UH, PARKS.

I THINK THAT AREA COULD BE USED FOR OUR, UH, SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

VERY GOOD.

THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M ON THOSE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MUCH THANK YOU FOR, THOSE ARE GOOD ANSWERS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ANY OTHER CONCERNS? UH, COMMISSIONERS? WELL, YOU HAVE, I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

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SO IS THERE ANOTHER STEP AFTER IT GOES TO COUNCIL, IS THERE ANOTHER STEP THAT WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME DEFINING, UM, SOME QUALIFICATIONS THAT WOULD LIMIT WORKING HOURS OR LIGHT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS? NO, THIS IS IT.

THIS IS IT.

THIS WOULD BE ESTABLISHING THE ZONING AND THE PD.

UM, SO IN THIS, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE PREVIOUS CASE MM-HMM .

IF THEY, HE WOULD BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE SPECIFIC USES, WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE DISTRICT DOCUMENT.

THE ISSUE THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY NOTICE IS SPECULATIVE AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO LIMIT MM-HMM .

THE PRIOR APPLICATION.

THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S THEIR BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THIS ONE, THIS, MANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IS THE REASONING WHY WE REALLY CAN'T SUPPORT THE CASE.

UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN AT A SPECULATIVE LEVEL, SOME OF THE NOISE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE, THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY, CONSIDERING THE BUTTED RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S STILL THE GAP OF WHERE YOU CAN HAVE NOISE.

IT'S JUST ENAMEL A NORMAL FUNCTION OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE.

HMM.

AND SO IF, IF, IF MR. THULI WAS PRESENTING, UM, AN ACTUAL TENANT WITH SOME DEFINED ACTIVITIES, WE COULD MAYBE HELP THE WHOLE PROCESS ALONG BY ASKING SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF THAT TENANT OR THE I WOULDN'T BELIEVE SO.

NOW I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR MR. YEAH.

BUT I WOULD BELIEVE SO.

BUT HE DID MENTION IT'S SPECULATIVE AND YEAH, IT IS HARD TO RESTRICT SOMEBODY AND IT'S HARD TO SELL SOMETHING OR RENT SOMETHING WITH A BUNCH OF RESTRICTIONS ON IT.

SO, YEAH.

WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND SPEAK FOR JUST A MINUTE? JUST A MINUTE.

WAS WE GETTING WE GOING ON HERE ? YEAH, SURE.

AND I WILL NOTE, BASED ON EXPERIENCE, THE MOST INTENSE USE IS REQUIRED AN SUP MM-HMM .

WHICH THEN GIVES YOU THAT POWER MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW.

THE SPECIFIC USE FROM THAT YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS MM-HMM .

AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND ONE THING I WILL ADD, I DIDN'T NOTE, WE DID MEET WITH COUNCILMAN HEDEN ON THIS.

BROUGHT IT TO HER ATTENTION, THE PROJECT, AND SHE WAS IN SUPPORT, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THE, THE COUNCILWOMAN WAS IN SUPPORT.

THIS IS, UH, INTERESTING.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE, WE CAN'T DO A WHOLE LOT WITH IT BY BEING SPECULATIVE.

IT, IT JUST, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S KIND OF AN UP AND DOWN VOTE PRETTY MUCH.

SO, UM, WHOSE AREA IS THIS? THIS IS, UH, MICHELLE.

SO DO YOU WANNA TAKE A STAB AT THIS OR? YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN, UM, GIMME ONE MOMENT TO THINK.

UM, , SO IT'S, SO IT'S CURRENTLY MULTI-FAMILY, IS THAT RIGHT? SO WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION THEN, I'M ASSUMING.

WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION.

WE ARE STILL IN DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS NOW IF WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN IS IN SUPPORT, THAT GIVES IT MORE CLOUT THAN IT HAD BEFORE.

WELL, AND THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT LATER ON AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY IMPACTS.

WE ARE, WE'RE JUST THE, THE FIRST PASS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL WILL DO WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, BUT, UH, IN TO BUFFER THE NOISE FOR THE, UM, RESIDENTS, IT'S NOT A, A BAD IDEA WITH THE WAREHOUSES.

UM, SO I'M KIND OF, KIND OF OKAY WITH IT.

I I, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE NOISE BEING A PROBLEM FOR THE GENTLEMAN THERE THAT WORKS FROM HOME.

AND THEN I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING A PARK THERE, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE, UM, RESIDENT FRIENDLY, BUT IT'S KIND OF, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD.

IT'S PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT CONSIDERING EPIC IS RIGHT THERE AND THE, AND THEN THE AIRPORT.

UM, WHEN YOU TALKING SCREENING THE NOISE, I MEAN, ANY DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA SCREEN NOISE.

UH, SO I WOULD THINK RESIDENTIAL WOULD PROBABLY BE, FROM STAFF'S VIEW, THE BETTER USE TO SCREEN NOISE FROM THE AIRPORT AND THE YEAH.

BECAUSE THE AIRPORT IS GIVING NOISE IN ITSELF.

THAT IN ITSELF IS, ISN'T THAT ON THE TITLE POLICIES AS YOU BUY PROPERTY, IT SHOWS WHAT IS IN THE AREA AND WHAT CAN BE PUT THERE IN THE AIRPORT.

I MEAN, I GUESS IT WAS, UNLESS IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN YEARS AGO, NO, IT, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE BUYER SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE BUYING NE WHAT THEY'RE LIVING NEXT TO OR BUYING PROPERTY NEXT TO.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO P AND Z.

UH, WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT THAT'S CITY PROPERTY.

AND Y'ALL'S DECISION, UM, STAFF HAS NOTED OUT CONCERNS AND SO HAVE THE RESIDENTS ADD SOMETHING.

ANYTHING ELSE? UM, WHEN DO WE TALK ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THAT LANDSCAPE? I THINK YOU BROUGHT A VERY GOOD POINT OF, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF LIKE BLOCKED IN.

WELL, WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF CLEARING UP THE TREES AND WELL GETTING A GATE ACCESS TO, TO, TO THE BACK.

UH, RASHAD, HOW DOES THAT WORK? I UNDERSTANDING THAT'S CITY PROPERTY,

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WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ACCESS FROM FALLS DRIVE AS, AS COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAS NOTED.

UM, THAT WOULD BE DOWN THE ROAD.

WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA, THE MAIN THING IS DO WE WANNA MAKE THIS ZONING CHANGE? SO, SO I'D LIKE TO 0.1 THING OUT JUST AS A REITERATION OF WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, THAT THE REASON WHY THEY'RE COMING TO US ASKING FOR US TO CHANGE THIS AFTER WE CHANGED IT FOR THEM BEFORE IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY, UM, LUCRATIVE FOR THEM TO USE IT IN THE PRE, PRE-APPROVED I THINK SO, UM, USE OF TOWN HOMES.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF FINANCIAL, UM, THE WAY I'M, I'M, I'M READING IT, IS A MATTER OF FINANCIAL, UM, BENEFIT TO THE INVESTOR, NOT NECESSARILY BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY TO CHANGE IT TO WAREHOUSES.

SO JUST LET THAT SINK IN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION.

AND THERE'S, GO AHEAD JANE.

MY ONLY COMMENT IS THERE'S AS OPPOSED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHAT'S, WHAT ELSE IS THE OPTION IS A HEAVY, THAT'S IT.

BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE THEY'RE WANTING TO MOVE THIS TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIONS AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FULL ON INDUSTRIAL.

FULL WAREHOUSES.

I'M SORRY, I WAS TALKING.

WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION, MANUFACTURING, LIGHT MANUFACTURING.

COMMISSIONER AKARI IS ASKING WHAT ELSE COULD, COULD THERE, COULD ELSE, COULD THERE BE THERE BESIDES NO, NOT NECESSARILY.

WHAT ELSE COULD BE THERE? I'M JUST TRYING TO DO A KIND OF A COMPARISON THAT WE'RE APPROVING FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHICH HAS MORE RESTRICTIONS AS OPPOSED TO AN INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT? NO, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH HAS A MULTITUDE OF USES THAT COULD BE ALLOWED.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE USES THAT COULD BE ALLOWED HERE.

THEY'RE NOT RESTRICTING THEMSELVES IN THAT REGARD.

RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING ZONING IS ALLOWING FOR TOWN HOMES.

I GUESS YOUR QUESTION IS, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN ANOTHER CATEGORY, CORRECT? YEAH.

THOSE, IF Y'ALL RECALL THOSE OTHER USES, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THOSE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

BUT THIS CASE IS JUST FOR THIS, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IN THIS CASE.

UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS.

ALL.