[CC Briefings 09032024]
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UM, RAY SERTA, PARKS, ARTS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
UM, I HAVE PAUL BROWN WITH ME.
UH, HE'S OUR LAKE PARK SUPERINTENDENT.
AND STEVEN BOWLES, OUR FISCAL MANAGER, WHO WILL BE REVIEWING OUR, UM, LAKE PARK, UH, FUNDS.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
UH, AS I SAID, TODAY WE'LL BE PRESENTING OUR LAKE PARKS, UH, FUND, UH, AS WE HAVE DONE IN PREVIOUS AT, UH, F AND G.
UH, BEFORE I START OFF, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE FUND SUMMARY.
UH, THE PURPOSE TO OVERSEE ONGOING OPERATIONS FOR EXPENSES FOR LYNN CREEK, LLOYD PARK, AND BRITTON PARK FUND SUPPORT FOR ALL PERSONNELS 24, FULL-TIME, SIX PART-TIME, 30 SEASONAL AND 16 VOLUNTEERS.
IT'S A SPECIAL REVENUE TYPE OF FUND AT LAKE PARK.
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UH, THIS YEAR, YEAR TO DATE SO FAR AT LLOYD PARK, WE'VE HAD OVER 30,811 PAID VEHICLES, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY $525,000 IN REVENUES AT LYNN CREEK, OVER 34,741, UH, PAID VEHICLES, UH, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT $890,000.
IN ADDITION TO THIS, UH, FOR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENCE, UH, 21,843 PEOPLE HAVE COME IN, AND THAT'S NO CHARGE FOR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENCE FOR THAT.
LLOYD PARK IS RANKED THE NUMBER THREE CAMPGROUND IN, IN TEXAS, UH, FROM TEXAS OUTSIDE MAGAZINE, UH, AT LLOYD PARK, UH, YEAR TO DATE SO FAR, WE BROUGHT IN 1.1, UH, A LITTLE OVER $1.1 MILLION, UM, WHICH IS HUGE.
UH, LLOYD PARK IS BOOKED TO CAPACITY DURING OUR FOREST OF FAIR AND CHILI COOKOFF.
UH, WE DID RENT RENOVATIONS AND UPGRADES TO OUR CABINS.
UM, WE REPLACED AT LIN CREEK OR SOME OF OUR CANOPIES, BENCHES AND BEACH AREA, AS WELL AS OUR POINT OF SYSTEM, UH, CELL OUTTA GATE ENTRY.
AND THEN, UH, FOR THOSE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HOSTED EIGHT HIGH SCHOOL AND ONE COLLEGE CROSS COUNTRY EVENT AT LYNN CREEK PARK.
SO IT'S ALSO FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND
UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU A FUND SUMMARY FOR, UM, THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS FFY 25.
THIS IS THE SAME FUND SUMMARY THAT WAS PRESENTED AS PART OF THE FY 25 BUDGET PROCESS.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THERE IN OUR FY 24 PROJECTIONS.
WE STARTED OFF THE CURRENT YEAR WITH, UH, HEALTHY $3.8 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE THERE AT THE LAKE PARKS.
UM, LOOKING AT OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, UH, PROJECTED OUT THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS COMING TO A CLOSE SOON, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO THAT FUND BALANCE.
UH, REVENUES WE'RE EXPECTING TO REMAIN PRETTY CONSISTENT GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.
THE PRIMARY, PRIMARY SOURCES OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE OUR DAY IN
UM, OVERALL WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A
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VERY SIMILAR YEAR, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE YOU'LL SEE IS THE ADDITION TO FUND BALANCE.WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING $1.3 MILLION IN CIP PROJECTS FOR NEXT YEAR.
NOW, PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT WAS THAT WE DID HAVE ABOUT, UH, $650,000 IN, UH, OUR LAKE PARK CIP FUND BALANCE THAT WAS IN THERE, BUT NOT DEDICATED TOWARDS ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT, KINDA SITTING AS CASH.
THE REMAINING OF THAT WE'RE PULLING AS A TRANSFER IN NEXT YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET, UH, TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE AT BOTH PARKS, UH, WITH A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON LLOYD IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE FUND BALANCE.
JOHNSON, DO YOU THAT, I'M SORRY, $600,000 IN CASH.
SO THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS MONEY THAT IN THE PAST HAD BEEN MOVED FROM OUR LAKE PARKS OPERATING BUDGET TO OUR LAKE PARK CIP BUDGET.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS SITTING THERE FOR A PROJECT THAT GOT CANCELED OR IF IT WAS SITTING ON THERE TO BE FOR A FUTURE PROJECT.
EITHER WAY, WE HAD THESE PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND FUND IN NEXT YEAR, AND RATHER THAN HAVING TO MOVE THAT ENTIRE 1.3 FROM OPERATING, WE ALREADY HAD THAT CASH SITTING THERE TO FUND HALF OF IT.
SO, UH, THE REVENUES FOR, UH, NEXT YEAR WE STILL BIT TURNED BY MILLION DOLLARS BEFORE MOVING TO A TRANSFER TO CIP.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRANSFERRING ABOUT, UH, $650,000 TO CIP OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.
WE'LL STILL BE ADDING ABOUT 200 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS TO OUR FUND BALANCE, EVEN WITH THAT TRANSFER.
I I JUST WANTED TO ALSO REITERATE THAT THE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED AT LLOYD PARK AND LIN CREEK HAVE TO STAY AT THOSE, THOSE, UH, RESPECTFUL PLACES.
UH, SO WHATEVER UPGRADES THAT WE MAKE AT THE, THOSE PARKS THAT THE REVENUE THAT WE BRING IN AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, STIPULATED TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERING SO WE CAN CASH OR WE CAN BUY THINGS ANYWAY.
SO WE HAVE THE CASH THERE AND HAVE ENOUGH.
Y'ALL FEEL LIKE WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH RESERVE WE CAN TAKE A
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, GENERALLY PARK SEEN LLOYD PARK.
CAN THEY GO ANY PARKS THEY CAN STAY IN? YEAH.
LAKE PARK IN, IN THE LAKE PARKS.
IF THE LAW DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY AWAY, CREEK DOESN'T HAVE STAY AS LONG AS IT STAYS IN THAT LAKE PARKS.
IT'S BOTH IN WHAT WE CALL LAKE PARKS.
WE KIND OF TRIED TO BUDGET THINGS THAT ARE, SO I PARK REVENUES, BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, I JUST HAVE THIS CLARIFICATION.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE EXPENDITURES.
WE HAVE PERSONNEL, EXTRA BUDGETING,
SO WHO LOCATED OUTTA THE GENERAL LAKE PARKS OPERATIONS? SO THERE ARE A FEW POSITIONS.
THERE ARE A FEW POSITIONS THAT OPERATE BOTH.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR LAKE PARK SUPERINTENDENT PAUL BROWN, WHO OPERATES ALL OF THE, UM, THE ITEMS AT BOTH PARKS.
THERE'S ALSO SOME MAINTENANCE STAFF, SPECIAL EVENT STAFF THAT DO THINGS OUTTA BOTH PARKS.
SO THEY'RE BUDGETED OUT OF THAT, UM, OPERATIONS RATHER THAN SPECIFICALLY AT ONE OF THOSE PARKS ELSE.
IT WAS, UH, WE, THE NOT AS MANY AS WE PASSED.
SEEMS LIKE WE, YEAH, IT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT A MONTH OF CLOSURES.
UM, BUT, UM, PAUL CAN ATTEST TO THIS, I THINK AS SOON AS, UH, THE LAKE PARK WAS BACK OPEN, EVERYONE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE.
I TOLD PAUL EARLIER, MAKE COMMENTS.
MY WIFE IS EXCEPTIONALLY PARTICULAR ABOUT
WE WERE OUT THERE ADMINISTERED OUT AT THE WINTER PARK SATURDAY, AND SHE SELL THOSE OVER MASS RESTROOM AT A PARK LIKE THAT.
EVERYTHING JOE AND SHE, THANK YOU.
SO HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT? SO THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A FORMALITY THAT I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO,
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BUT WE'RE HERE NOW AND IT'S JUST UPDATED.IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE OMIT WISE, ANY OF THAT, ANYTHING FROM THE SMALL THINGS LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, ON PAGE NINE, ARTICLE FIVE SECTION, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, LIKE WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, ACTUALLY, PAGE 11, UM, AT THE VERY TOP IT'S, UH, WHAT IS THIS HERE? SECTION E GOING INTO F LITTLE THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, BACK THEN WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, IT PREDOMINANTLY MEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR MEN YEARS.
LITTLE THINGS THAT THAT DAY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S WOMEN ON ON OUR COUNCIL THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT NEEDS TO BE AT PAGE 11.
AT THE VERY TOP SMALL WORDS OF THAT ARE SHOWING THAT COGNIZE SAY, MA'AM, HE, IT'S ALL ABOUT SO REAL THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN BIGGER THINGS AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO RUN FOR MAYOR MM-HMM
WE NEED TO OMIT THE SECOND PART OF IF A COUNCIL MEMBER DOES DECIDE TO RUN, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO VACATE THEIR SPOT.
UM, LIKE AT A, AT A JUNIOR YEAR, YOU KNOW, NEED REFERENCE TO WASHINGTON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA RUN FOR PRESIDENT, IF YOU'RE PUNISHMENT SENATOR, WHATNOT.
EVEN IF YOU FEEL YOU DON'T WIN, YOU'RE STILL, YOU STILL HOLD THAT POSITION.
SO I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION, WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN BACK THEN MANY YEARS AGO, IT WAS MORE OF A, A THREAT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY RUNS.
SO THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE IT TO A PRIVATE, UH, MEETING.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK EXECUTIVE, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST LOOK AT.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING, JUST OPEN IT UP TO THE COURT.
ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND WE MAY HAVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEYS TO LOOK INTO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE STATE LAW HAS, ITS AWARE IF A COUNCIL MEMBER CHOOSES TO RUN FOR A HIGHER OFFICE AND THEY'RE SERVING IN A CITY THAT HAS LONGER THAN TWO YEAR TERMS, YOU HAVE TO RESIGN TO RUN UNLESS YOUR TERM'S EXPIRING 13 MONTHS.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR CITY'S GOING.
WELL, LET'S, UH, LET'S CHECK THAT WHILE FIRST I, ALONG THESE PLACES ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANYWAYS.
THERE IS A RESIGN TO RUN POSITION IN STATE LAW.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC, BECAUSE I KNOW STATE LAW SUPERSEDES YES.
THE CITY THAT HAS TWO YEAR ATTORNEY LIMITS, TWO YEAR TIMES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESIGN TO RUN FOR LIKE STATE LEGISLATURE OR CONGRESS.
UM, BUT IF YOU CITY HAS THREE MORE JAIL RESIGN, UNLESS YOUR TERM EXPIRES 13 MONTHS FROM THAT DATE.
HE ANNOUNCED ON FACEBOOK THAT HE WAS GONNA RUN.
I'LL TELL YOU, I'M TIRED OF THIS.
I'M RUNNING FOR MAYOR, MOTHER, WHATEVER.
WELL, THEY REFERENCED THE STATE LAW THAT MM-HMM
SO, AND THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER ONE.
CHECK OUT SUPERSEDED STATE LAW.
OF COURSE, I'M NEXT MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO, UH, THE CHARTER, IT IS NOT, IN MY OPINION I'M WRONG, WHAT WE WANT THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE.
SO I DID BRING UP SOME HISTORY FROM 1948 IS WHEN THE CHARTER WAS ADOPTED.
THE CITIZENS GRAND TIME ADOPTED THAT, BUT ALL CITIZENS GRAND NOT VOTE.
YOU TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS HERE.
SO THAT'S THIS, THIS CHARTER IS THE A, THE 1965 IS WHEN WE HAD A FOR PEOPLE TO ORDER FOLKS TO VOTE.
SO WE LOOKING AT THE CHARTER, WHAT WE WANT IT SHOULD BE OR WE FOR TO VOTE ON WHAT THEY WANT THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE.
SO WHEN WE START DENYING ALL WANT THIS, THAT'S A PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
I'M NOT TALKING DOESN'T, BUT MY POINT IS, WE'RE DENYING THE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING IS THE ISSUE I'M GONNA HAVE.
YOU'RE SAYING THEY DON'T NEED VOTE ON THAT.
WHY IS IT A PERSONAL BELIEF DISTRICTS WITH THE COUNCIL AND ASK THEM THESE QUESTIONS AND THEY COME BACK AND DON'T WANT IT.
SO I ALSO HAVE AN OPEN MIND AS WE REVIEW THE, WE PERSONALLY,
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WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY VOTED US TO REPRESENT THEM.LET'S GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE HOW THEY WANT THE CITY TO LIVE.
WE THINK IT SHOULD, SHOULD BE A SMART, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAVE IN HERE AND YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND LET'S HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
THEY'RE NOT, I, I DON'T LIMITS.
SECRETARY STATE OFFICE ON THIS PAGE REVIEW TRANSPARENCY.
I THINK THE LIMITS SHOULD BE WITH THE CHARTER.
I USED TO, WHENEVER THERE'S AMENDMENT TO A POLICY OR PROCEDURE, THE AMENDMENT WAS THERE TO SHOWING WHAT WAS AMENDED IN THAT PARTICULAR POLICY.
SO IN THE FUTURE, AS WE START TO MASSAGE THIS CHARTER, LET'S HAVE THE AMENDMENTS ALL HERE WHERE THE ATTACHMENT ONE WE CAN PUT ON THE FIRST PAGE, ATTACHMENT ONE FROM THIS AMENDMENT BACK READ.
SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE WE BACK TO READ IT, ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS FOR THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES NOW THEN GO TO CONGRESS TO READ IT.
SO CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THAT? YES.
THE AMENDMENTS WILL BE PLACED ON A BALLOT.
SO PREVIOUS AMENDMENT WHAT AMENDMENT.
BUT UH, THIS, I ALWAYS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US HAVING ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT LENGTH OF THE CHARTER.
UH, CHARTER AMENDMENTS ARE NOT NORMALLY IT'S A BIG DEAL CHARTER.
UM, THEY'RE NOT VOTING ON VERY OFTEN UNLESS THESE, UH, THE LAST CHARTER AMENDMENT WAS WILLING TO THE NEW DISTRICTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THREE YEAR THREE YEAR THE SAME TIME LETTING ALL HAS DONE ONE TIME.
WE TWICE I THINK SINCE, BUT I TAKE CHARGE.
NOW THERE'S NO URGENCY ON THIS BECAUSE THE SOONEST WE CAN VOTE ON THE CHARTER IS IN MAY.
SO I WOULD UM, UM, WE GOT A MEETING COMING UP IN, UM, A SPECIAL MEETING COMING UP ALREADY IN OCTOBER.
WE HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION THE FIRST MEETING.
SO THEN THAT MEANS WE NEED TO HAVE THE MEETING PRETTY SOON.
THERE'S ONLY ONE MEETING IN OCTOBER THAT'S TO SET UP IN OCTOBER.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? IF WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS HERE, SHE GOT THE STAFF OUT.
WE SENT ALL OUR QUESTIONS TO THE STAFF NOW, BUT WHEN YOU SAY QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT I HAVE IS, I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
LIKE THERE'S TWO CHARTERS OF MINUTES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON RECENTLY AND THAT'S WHY SOMETHING YOU'LL WANT VOTED ON.
AGAIN, IT DOESN'T TAKE REVIEW OF, OF THE, UH, STAFF.
JUST I KNOW IT AT THE, OF THE CITY IN DALLAS COUNTY.
SO MAY I MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK? REAL QUICK? THAT THAT KIND IS THE SAME THING THAT MIKE BROUGHT UP A LOT.
HIM AND HER AND THEM THERE STUFF.
I THINK WE COULD ASK THE, THE STAFF TO CLEAN UP THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I THINK THEY COULD DO SO GET THAT CLEANED UP AND THEN THEN SOMEBODY'S GOING, WANTING TO MAKE SOME MOTIONS.
PROBABLY ADD THINGS TO THE CHARTER OTHER THAN THE CLEANUP.
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AND THAT'S WAY WE'LL PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE FIRST MEETING OF FEBRUARY AND VOTE IT UP OR DOWN, BE SO BACK AND DISCUSS.NOW DOES THE CLEANUP OF THE CHARTER, IT'S JUST THAT TYPE OF THING REQUIRE, UH, VOTE OF THE CITIZENS.
YOU'RE YOU'RE STILL MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER? YES.
ANYTHING WE DO GENERALLY, UM, WHAT, WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS THERE'S A GENERAL STATEMENT ON ONE OF THE SECTIONS THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE ANY, UM, CORRECT ANY TYPOS, CORRECTING GENERAL NEUTRAL, UM, CONCERNS ANY INCORRECT INFORMATION.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST IN DALLAS COUNTY, WE'RE IN DALLAS COUNTY.
IT WOULD STILL BE PART OF THE BOOK.
IT WOULD STILL BE ON THE AGENDA ON THE, UM, BALLOT, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE A GENERAL ITEM FOR THAT SPECIFIC RECORD.
SO I, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THOUGH THAT OVER BEYOND OUR TRIBAL, I'VE BEEN ALREADY IN SOME RESEARCH WITH OTHERS SURROUNDS OR WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT I THINK THAT WE NEED, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE ETHICS PART SURE.
TO MAKE SURE THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WE'RE ALL PROTECTED.
HOW WE DO THINGS AND, AND WE HAVE SOME KIND OF PAPER LOOK HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
SO I THINK JUST I DO THAT OTHER AROUND SIMILAR TO THE I ETHICS CLEAN OUT WHAT Y'ALL JUST BROUGHT UP.
IF, IF WE, AND I'M OUT TOP MY HEAD, BUT WHEN WE DO MOVE BACK OVER, WE GOT SOME THAT WE GO DEAL.
SO YOU SOME OF SHARE YOUR IDEAS.
YOU BE REAL CAREFUL IN THESE EMAILS.
SO YEAH, TO FIGURE OUT A TIME.
UM, IS OCTOBER TOO QUICK? AND WE THERE'S ONLY ONE.
IF YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU DIRECT THOSE TO MEL? YES.
ALL YOUR, REGARDING THE CHARTER PLEA DIRECT, THOSE TWO WE AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE READY FOR YOU.
WE HAVE OUR MEETING IN LATE OCTOBER.
STRETCH COUNCIL REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF ON THE AGENDA.
RIGHT SIR, YOU HAVE THE COUNSEL.
THE REASON IS I MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WE SHOULD FROM THE FRONT AND BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THE CITY ONLY WAS A 2% INCREASE.
NOT, NOT IN CONSIDERATION, BUT THE, UH, HEALTH BENEFITS MAY BE GONE NOW.
I WAS SAYING MY FRIEND, UM, THEY COME BACK ON, WE, WE HAVE TO COME BACK ON EXPENSES.
I FEEL WE SHOULD SHARE THE SAME RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I'M NOT ASKING 2% CUT ON A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SALARY, UH, TRAVEL BUDGET, EVEN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CUT.
SO SHOW THAT WE'RE LEADING FROM THE FRONT AS LEADERS.
THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP I'M USED TO AS A FORMER LEADER IN THE MILITARY.
WE, FROM THE FRONT, WE SET THE EXAMPLE AND WE SAY WE TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD, MAYBE WE SHOULD.
EVEN THE STIPEND THAT WE GET, WE SHOULD FOREGO THAT THIS YEAR.
IT'S INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S JUST SHOWING THE STAFF THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH ME THAT WE'RE NOT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE CHIEF IS GONNA KNOW
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OFFICERS AND ENLISTED.YOU HAVE THE CHIEFS, YOU HAVE THE OFFICERS AND KHAKIS.
WE HAVE TO SHARE THIS TOGETHER INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WE PAY.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA? HOW DO YOU WANT, I WANT US TO CONSIDER, UH, FOR OUR PAY INCREASE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU FIVE A LEAD.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA? UM, I WIFE
SO TWO ITEMS. SO LET'S DO SEPARATELY ON THE NEXT ONE IS THE MONTHLY EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT WE GET THAT WE WANNA RAISE BASED ON INFLATION.
THE OTHER IS TO DECIDE SOMETHING ON THE TRAVEL BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
AND THAT WILL BE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ ON THE TROUBLE BUDGET, I KNOW DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WE ABOUT TO ADOPT.
WE, SINCE IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION SOON AS SEE OTHER CITY'S S THERE ALL EXPENSES COUNCIL HAVE COUNCIL, UM, ALL EXPENSES, ALL EXPENSES BEYOND THERE.
DOES THAT GET ALL THE EXPENSES AND CITY COUNCIL REVIEWS ALL THE EXPENSES AND WAY, NOT TO ME.
I THINK THE TRAVEL BUDGET MAKES SENSE AND YOU PHRASE THAT, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU HIT THAT CAP THAT YOU CAN STILL BEFORE COUNCIL YOU, IT MAKES SENSE.
I THINK, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BAD NEED TO, WE NEED TO HOLD THIS DISCUSSION AGENDA SINCE THE ONLY THING POSTED BUSINESS.
WELL YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
IT HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN VOTED ON.
IT'S VOTED ON ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I MEAN SPECIAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT YOUR COMMITTEES REQUIRED TO BE THERE AND THAT THREE, JUST FOR YOURS, THREE ABOUT SEVEN SEVEN.
THE SPEND MORE THAN 20%, HUNDRED THOUSAND BUDGET IS VERY SMALL ACTUALLY.
BUT WHEN YOU, YOU'RE TELLING THE STAFF THEY GOTTA CUT BACK ON THEIR TRAVEL AND WE STILL DON'T, I THINK OUR TRAVEL IS, IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS IS VERY, WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE STAFF.
Y'ALL ARE, I I'VE BEEN ON THIS HOUSE WHEN WE HAD NO, WHEN WE HAD TWO MEMBERS ON COMMITTEES.
HARDLY ANY HAS PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMITTEES.
HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS DO WE HAVE ON COMMITTEES NOW? FOUR, FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMITTEES.
I I I DON'T WANT TO BE TELLING THEM DON'T WANT YOUR COUNCIL.
I AGREE THAT MAYOR, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COME FROM.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMITTEES, SOME ON TOO.
SO THE PROCESS IS PUT IN AN APPLICATION AND YOU ARE ON A COMMITTEE.
YOU ON THESE COMMITTEES, IT'S NOT THE BEST QUALIFIED.
SO I CAN GO ON FIVE COMMITTEES WHEN I RETIRE, I RETIRE IN THE STUDENT.
NOW I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO TO A MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I'M JUST ON A COMMITTEE.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMITTEES.
YOU PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, NOT HAVING TWO AND THREE AND FOUR COMMITTEES BECAUSE I, WHEN I'M RETIRED, I GOT NUMBER OF FREE TIME I DON'T NEED TO PUT IN ANNUALLY.
YEAH, BUT YOU'RE SERVING MORE
YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GET ON A COMMITTEE.
I HAD APPLIED FOR SOME OTHER COMMITTEES I THINK YOU PICKED, BUT I DID GET PICKED.
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YOU WANT TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH COUNSELING WE CAN SERVE BOTH ON THE STATEMENT ON LEVEL, WHAT ARE WE SERVING AT THE STATE? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE SERVING RIGHT NOW? THE STATE? NO, YOU CAN, THAT'S NOT THE STATE LEVEL.THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A YOU DO THAT SAME THING WITH LC.
I'M SAYING WHY DO YOU WANT LIMIT A MEMBER? IT'S NOT, WHY DO YOU WANNA LIMIT A COUNCIL MEMBER'S ABILITY TO SERVE? WHAT ARE YOU SERVING? YOU'RE JUST GOING INTO A MEETING THAT AND STILL TO THIS DAY, NO ONE'S COME BACK WITH I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA SOLVE IT.
REMEMBER, SAY THE SAME THING NEXT WHEN WE VOTED.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS AND I WENT TO A CONFERENCE BACK IN JUNE, BACK IN JUNE, EXCUSE ME, FOR ALL THE MEMBERS AND CERTAIN COMMITTEE, WE SERVE ALL THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL OF THE NATURAL RISK OF COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMITTEE IS SO MUCH OF CONNECTION.
WE COMING TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE AT THE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT THE EMAIL FROM SENIOR MEMBERS.
WE CONDUCTED A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY STUDY TO SEE WHERE OUR EMISSIONS GOING.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW ARE WE MOVING THE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO DECREASE THAT? WE CAN HAVE INTEGRATION THE COMMITTEE BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY AND HELP OUR CITY PROGRESS AND MOVE FORWARD.
SO THIS IS VALUABLE INFORMATION.
CONFERENCE TOGETHER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
WHERE WE SAT IN THE SAME ROOM, WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING HOW MANY COMMITTEES CAN WE BE ON? IF I'M GONNA RETIRE IN DECEMBER, I'M GONNA POP ON FIVE AS MANY AS 10.
AS LONG AS YOU, WE SET THE BUDGET PART, YOU WANT GO.
ONCE WE HIT THAT BUDGET OR THAT CAP, THEN THEN IT'S ALL UP MEAN BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS I DO, BUT I JUST OUT MY OWN POCKET.
YOU GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTWELL? I I AGREE.
OPENHEARTEDLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ AND I'D LIKE TO SEE NICK COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF WORD AND HELP HIM WITH THAT.
THAT ONCE YOU HIT THE CAP, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THESE FOLKS GOING TO THESE THINGS.
I CAN'T, UH,
PLEASE DON'T LET ME OFFER THAT.
BUT THE UH, MY POINT THOUGH IS, IS IS YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE I AM AT HOME, WHEN I GET CLOSE TO HOW MANY DOLLARS I GOT AT THE END OF THE MONTH, I START GETTING APPROVAL.
LISTEN, WHAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT I AGREE WITH JOHN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT THE LIMIT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SNEAKING UP TO YOUR LIMIT, YOU MIGHT START BEING A LITTLE MORE PARTICULAR AND, AND YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I WILL GO ASK THE COUNSEL IF I CAN DO IT AND MAKE MY CASE FOR WHY I SHOULD.
AND, UH, THAT MIGHT MAKE ME BE MORE FRUGAL WHILE I'M AT A, AT A CONFERENCE SOMEWHERE.
I MIGHT NOT BUY THE, THE MONSTER AND STEAK.
I MIGHT GO AHEAD AND JUST HAVE A CHICKEN FRIED STEAK.
EAST TEXAS SPECIAL AND THAT I THINK WOULD WORK WONDERFUL.
WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE WILL HAVE COUNCIL IS.
YEAH, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT, JOHN.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE.
I CAN HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB AND I USE MY PTO TO GO ON THESE CONFERENCES SO THEY'RE NOT VACATION TO ME BECAUSE I'M GETTING UP EARLY IN THE MORNING.
I'M ATTENDING SESSIONS AT, IN THE AFTERNOON.
I GO TO MY HOTEL ROOM AND DO MY WORK.
AND SO IT IS NOT THAT LIKE I'M GOING ON VACATION.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE WERE VETTED FOR THESE POSITIONS WHEN WE APPLIED.
I THOUGHT, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE PUT ON OUR APPLICATIONS WERE CONSIDERED.
AND SO I HAVE ENJOYED THE LEADERSHIP.
I'VE ENJOYED THE COMRADERY WITH OTHER CITIES AND JUST COMPARING NOTES, GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS, SHARING WITH OTHER CITIES WHAT WE ARE DOING.
AND SO I FIND IT, I FIND I'M VERY PROUD TO SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES WITH THE OTHER, UM, WITH, TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEES WITH THE OTHER CITIES SHOWING WHAT GRAND PRAIRIE IS DOING AND SHOWING, INPUTTING OUR CITY IN, IN THE WILDLIFE.
UH, I THINK WITH UM, UH, COUNCIL
SO WE ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THOSE COMMITTEES.
I THINK IT BRINGS VALUE, IT BROUGHT A LOT OF VALUE TO ME AND I THINK IT BRINGS A LOT TO THE CITY.
I'LL GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK TONY WILL AGREE WITH.
UM, THE FORMER MAYOR DIDN'T BELIEVE IN PARTICIPATING IN PMLL.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS I, I DON'T KNOW HIS REASON, I WOULD JUST BE FRANK IN THAT WAS HIS STANCE.
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I HAD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STANCE BECAUSE WE'RE THE HUNDRED 25TH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.THE HUNDRED 25TH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.
I WANT OUR COUNCIL TO BE INVOLVED IN A NATIONAL AND STATE LEVEL.
AND, UH, I WILL VOTE TO CONTINUE HAVING, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THOSE CHOOSE TO.
UM, THERE'S A HUGE
THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THESE TO POLITICIZED.
IF IT WAS ANOTHER GATHERING OF OURS AND DS, UH, AND I CHOSE TO NOT CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE, UH, BUT THE ONES WE HAVE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE ONES THAT Y'ALL ARE ON, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR Y'ALL TO STAY ON IT.
AND I WILL VOTE THE WAY I WANNA VOTE WHEN WE BRING IT UP THE BUDGET AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I THINK OUR STAFF APPRECIATES HAVING A COUNCIL THAT PUTS IN THE WORK.
SO IF ANYBODY, I SMALL CHILD, CHILD, FIRST SIX, EIGHT YEARS, I HAD, I WOULD THINK PROBABLY AFTER, AFTER Y'ALL ARE ON FOR A LONG TIME GOING, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I'VE ALREADY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING DO NOT DO THAT.
YOU CAN JUST, YOU CAN WHILE YOU'RE DOING, I DON'T, UH, SEE ANY OTHER HANDS.
LET'S, UH, LET'S DO OUR AGENDA.
COUNCIL, WE HAVE ITEMS SIX THREE HEARING ON THE CONSENT THAT I WAS ADVISED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
NOW THAT NUMBER 30 NEEDS TO BE FULL OR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AS HOW LET US KNOW, UH, WHAT THE WAS, WHICH IS YOU NEED DISCUSSION NOW OR THEY READ IT WELL, WE'LL, I DON'T, I ONLY WANT TO HEAR IT ONCE, BUT I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL EMERGENCY AVAILABLE.
YOUR AVAILABILITY AND YOUR URGENCY QUESTION.
WE HAVE A EXPLANATION OF WHAT IS, UM, NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT SETTLEMENT REGARDING ATMOS 29.
SO ATMOS IS ABLE TO FILE MID RATE REVIEWS, WHICH MEANS THEY, THEY SAY WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME, UM, OR PUT IN ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR RATES WHENEVER THEY DO THESE INTERIM RATE REVIEWS.
IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH LIKE A REAL REVIEW RATE PROCESS, IT'S JUST KIND OF RUBBER STAMPED AND REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO WE AS A MEMBER OF THE AT STEERING COMMITTEE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A RATE INCREASE DUE TO SYSTEM-WIDE REVENUES OF 196.8 MILLION.
AND THAT WAS NEGOTIATED DOWN AND WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING A $32 MILLION INCREASE.
WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR CITIZENS IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL RATE WOULD GO UP ABOUT 6.84%.
THE COMMERCIAL USAGE WOULD GO UP ABOUT 3.44%.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD STILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE.
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THEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF DISCOUNT AT ALL.AND SO FROM AN AVERAGE BILLING, UM, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, OURS WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM A DOLLAR 34 CENTS CHEAPER TO UP TO $6 AND 11 CENTS CHEAPER THAN WHAT OTHER CITIES WOULD EXPERIENCE.
WHAT'S THE, IT'S GONNA GO UP OUR, IT'S GOING TO BE $5 AND 52 CENTS A MONTHLY BASIS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND $13 AND 39 CENTS FOR COMMERCIAL.
NONE OF THEM FLAT INCREASES, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, GAS INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY, OUR, OUR AIMS, UH, AS WE TRY TO BALANCE REVENUES AND WHAT IT'S COSTING OUR CITIZENS, IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO BALANCE HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THEY HAVE.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING IN THAT GROUP.
LESS THAN WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO PAY.
UM, SO YOU ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL? WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITHOUT IT, THE RATES WILL INCREASE MORE.
YEARS AGO THERE WAS A SURCHARGE.
THERE WAS A SURCHARGE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE OF OLD CAST IRON PIPES AND AETNA SURCHARGE
EVERYBODY'S MONTHLY BILL FOR A LONG TIME THERE.
AND THEN THEY, THEN THEY STARTED REPLACING RESIDENTIAL LINES AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY DOING A LOT OF IT.
YOU SEE ONE OF THE STREETS EVERYWHERE WHERE S HAS PUT IN LIGHTS AND THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IS THAT SURCHARGE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SURCHARGE IS THERE OR NOT.
AND I DON'T HAVE AN
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY BUILT UP A REALLY GOOD POCKET OF MONEY AND THEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START USING IT.
MAYBE THEY BUILT IT UP AND IT SETTLED UP.
UM, NUMBER 24TH, UM, WAS DRIVING DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
UM, WHO TRUE ARCHITECTS, WHETHER THEY SUBMIT TO US BE SUBMITTED, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING MAYBE WE WOULD'VE KIND OF, WOULD'VE SEEN BEFORE COUNSEL, BUT IT WAS, THEY WERE OFFERING WHAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED THIS, THIS IS KIND OF PART TWO OF AN INITIAL STUDY THAT WE DID WITH THEM.
SO
AND SO BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY OF OUR FIRST SUBMISSION TO YOU ALL FOR THE RF FIVE FBI, UH, PACKAGE, WHERE YOU SAW THE RENDERINGS AND THE VIDEO THAT WE PUT IN, UH, INTERNALLY, WE WORKED WITH TRIBE ON THAT FIRST PROPOSAL.
THAT PARTICULAR PROPOSAL CAME IN $150,000 THRESHOLD.
SO FOR THAT REASON, YOU ALL DIDN'T SEE THAT, ALTHOUGH YOU OBVIOUSLY SAW THE FRUITS OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID.
AS IN RELEASE TO THAT, UH, THERE'S NO TWO TO THIS, THAT WE ARE STUDENTS AND STUDIES ON THE ANNEX AND THE FAB.
AND SO THE, BECAUSE OF TRAVIS'S INVOLVEMENT, UH, EARLY ON WITH THE INITIAL RESPONSE, WE'RE CONTINUING DOWN THAT SAME PATH.
SO IS IT THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY'RE, ANYTHING BE SELECTED, THEIR DESIGN WOULD BE SELECTED? OR IS THIS REALLY HIGH LEVEL?
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE FAB AND THE ANNEX AND, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
KEEPING IT, MAYBE KEEPING IT AND JUST USING THE EDGE, BE F RECREATING IT AND MAKING IT LOOK THE SAME.
OR A FORM DON, WHERE IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY NEW ARCHITE.
SO SIMILAR OR CONCEPTUAL, ARE WE GOING OUT TO BID AGAIN FOR AN ARCHITECT TO ACTUALLY, I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE WILL, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER AND INVESTORS ON BOARD WITH US AND SO THAT RESPONSIBILITY WILL FALL TO THEM.
AND SO DRIVE IS JUST TALKING TO US WITH THE PORTION THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO AS CITY RIGHT NOW.
BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WILL MOVE ON TO, TO FATHERS VERY LIKELY.
AND I, THIS IS JUST TO GET, UM, THE IDEAS TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL FOR CONSIDERATION SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT, FEEL IT, TOUCH IT WHENEVER WE PRESENT THOSE OPTIONS TO YOU, UM, AT THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU MS. DEB AND MR. FIELDS, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT?
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UH, NUMBER 16, LET'S OMIT WITH THE 4 4 1 YEAR RENEWAL.SINCE THIS, UH, IS A NEW VENDOR.
LET'S SEE HOW HE DOES THIS YEAR AND SEE, UH, NEXT YEAR IF WE EXTEND THAT.
SO WE NEED TO PULL IT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TO CHANGE THE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT OR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF BEFORE WE MAKE THAT CHANGE? STAFF? THERE ARE SOME STATUS ON US.
AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER DEBOSKY IS RECOMMENDING? UH, YES.
SO THE, THE CONTRACT WOULD BE FOR, OH, IT'S A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH FOUR RENEWALS.
UM, IF WE REMOVE THAT, THEN WE WOULD'VE TO GO OUT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, WHICH WE COULD DO OR WE COULD LEAVE IT IN AND WE'LL JUST REVIEW HOW HE DID SINCE HE'S NEW.
COULD WE UH, WE WORD IT TO WHERE IF WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DID THE FIRST YEAR, WE CAN CANCEL IT.
THE THE RENEWALS ARE, ARE ON MUTUAL AGREEMENT.
SO WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ENTER INTO THE RENEWAL.
SO WE DON'T WANNA ENTER INTO THE RENEWAL YEAR ONE.
YES, YOU COULD DO IT, YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT AFTER YEAR ONE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ENTER INTO THE RENEWAL.
SO HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE JUST NEED TO ADD THE WORDING? NO, IT, IT IS ALREADY WORDED THAT WAY.
I REMEMBER THE KEEPER WORDING WILL BE IN THE CONTRACT.
YEAH, THE RENEWALS ARE OPTION.
HE GET WHAT HE WANTS IS ALREADY IN THIS.
ACTUALLY IT SEND WITH FOUR ONE YEAR OPTIONS FOR RENEWAL.
IS THAT TRUE? SO WHEN IT SAYS THAT, SO HE'LL COME BACK NEXT YEAR AGAIN? NO, IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
STAFF WILL LET YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW WHETHER THEY THINK THEY DID A GOOD ENOUGH JOB.
WHAT ABOUT IF WE WANNA KNOW IF WE DID A GOOD JOB BEFORE COUNCIL, COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, STAFF WILL GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT STAFF TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.
STAFF, THE CONTRACT SAYS IF, IF ALL EXTENSIONS ARE EXERCISED, EXTENSIONS ARE RENEWALS ARE OPTIONAL.
SO WE DON'T, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO ENTER INTO THE RENEWAL.
SO AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, WE CAN GO BACK.
YES, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AFTER THE FIRST HEARING.
AND RAY HAS A CONVERSATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT IS THAT IN FEBRUARY WE ALWAYS DO A RECAP.
WE ALWAYS GET YOUR INPUT INTO IT.
HEY RAY, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY NO IN FEBRUARY.
WE CAN SAY NO IN FEBRUARY OR SAY YES OR SAY YES OR DO NOTHING.
I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SAME ITEM.
SO BEFORE THERE WAS, UM, I THINK ZAVALA ON HERE.
SO HOW DID WE GO BACK AND REBID? HOW DID WE WE PROVIDED, WE PROVIDED ALL THE ORIGINAL BIDDERS WITH, UH, WITH THE PACKET IN ORDER TO REBI MR. ZAVALA DIVIDED NOT TO REBI ON THIS PRICE.
SO THE OTHER THREE, THE OTHER THREE REBID AND
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENTED AGENDA? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENTED AGENDA.
MAYOR, WE'RE GOING DO, UM, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
PERSONNEL MATTER, SECTION FIVE.
TITLE ONE FOUR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND, UM, STAFF.
ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT FIRST AND THEN GO EAT OR GET OUR FOOD AND BOIL THEIR NEED? I TO GO IN AND GET OUR FOOD, COME IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, WANTS, LET'S GO GET OUR FOOD OUTTA THE CAFETERIA AND GO TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.