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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THE MEETING OF JULY THE EIGHTH, 2024.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:37 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS, WHICH CAN BE ALL APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
IF I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE, CHERYL SMITH.
HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR, UH, FRANK GONZALEZ AND KOKA.
AND NOW WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
AND THEN WE WILL, I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE AND THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING OUR CITY.
WE PRAY THAT AS WE DISCUSS THE AGENDA, WE WILL PUT THE TAXPAYER'S INTERESTS ABOVE ALL ELSE.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US GRACE TO COME UP WITH THE BEST AND MORALLY RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY THAT WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS BUSINESS AND VISITORS.
LORD, PLEASE BLESS AND WATCH OVER ALL POLICE, FIRE AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.
I PLEDGE READ TO THE FLAG AND TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE A WITNESS TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.
THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.
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THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION, YOU READY IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. COMMISSIONER JUNIOR PEREZ.MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AGENDA ITEM, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 24TH PNC MEETING AND AGENDA ITEM TWO PLT 24 DASH ZERO FOUR DASH 0 0 2 0.
THE FINAL PLAT LAKE VIEWPOINT.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA.
A MOTION FOR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UH, JOHN FKO.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
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RECORD.UH, THAT WHICH, UH, TABLE ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE SUP DASH, UH, TWO THREE, I'M SORRY.
TWO FOUR DASH THREE DASH 0 1 4 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ITS CIGAR LOUNGE AT 2100 NORTH HIGHWAY 360 TO THE PNZ MEETING OF AUGUST THE 12TH.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE.
ITEM THREE BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FKO.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[4. STP-24-05-0022 - Site Plan - Constellation Rock Island (City Council District 1). Site Plan for a 286,357 sq. ft. industrial warehouse building on 16.83 acres. Multiple tracts out of John C. Read, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development (PD-450), within SH 161 Corridor Overlay, and approximate addresses of 3514-3560 Hardrock Rd and 4701 Hardrock Rd ]
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.NEXT CASE IS ITEM FOUR, SITE PLAN FOR CONSTELLATION ROCK ISLAND.
THIS SITE PLAN IS FOR AN INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE LOCATED AT 47 0 1 HARD ROCK ROAD, ZONED PD 3 89 WITH A BASE ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON 16.83 ACRES.
THIS, UH, WAREHOUSE SLASH OFFICE IS NORTH OF 286,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS SITE PLAN DOES MEET THE DIMENSIONAL AND DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THE PARKING MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE UUD C.
IT ALSO MEANS THE LANDSCAPE AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE PROVIDING A WALKING TRAIL TO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND THE SOUTHERN SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE PROVIDING A SEATING AREA WITH PERLA AND A WATER FEATURE ON THE CORNER HERE WITH THE RED SQUARE.
AND, UH, LASTLY, THEY ARE PROVIDING AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY, UH, SCREENING WALL TO THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO SOME RESIDENTIAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
THIS IS THE RENDERING OF WHAT THE WAREHOUSE SLASH OFFICE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.
HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
AGAIN, THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
NDRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS, ABDUL? THANK YOU.
SPEAKER CARDS, PLEASE MA'AM, WE HAVE GARY REED WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
NO, NO, MINE IS, MINE IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
UH, NOT THAT ONE OH SUP DASH 24 DASH FIVE DASH ZERO TWO AT FOUR 30 BABY DRIVE.
YOU'LL BE CALLED UP AT THAT TIME WHEN THAT ITEM'S CALLED.
SO, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR.
ITEM FOUR IS, UM, MAGGIE KELLY HERE, WHO IS, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
MY NAME IS KAYLEE FLYNN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, CAN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, OUR COMPANY HALF IS AT 1201 NORTH BOWSER ROAD IN RICHARDSON.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THERE'S A MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, NEAR THIS FACILITY.
DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, ANY OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS? NO, MA'AM.
WE ARE PROVIDING THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY SCREEN WALL ON THAT, UH, FRONTAGE MM-HMM
AS WELL AS, UM, ADHERING TO ALL OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS RIGHT.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S JUST GOOD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE YOU GONNA BE ON THE SIDE OF? YES, MA'AM.
THAT WAS THE REASON I WAS ASKING THAT.
AND ALSO THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL WHERE SOME, THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OR ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UH, REPORTS DONE WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROPERTY.
WE DO HAVE A PHASE ONE ESA THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AND, UM, ARE PURSUING THE, THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT.
UM, BUT NO OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS WERE COMPLETED FOR THIS.
COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ONE? NO, MA'AM.
THIS IS, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER KO'S AREA.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO CHAIR? YEAH.
DO WE HAVE ANY FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF DISCUSSION ON IT? NOPE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND APPROVE ITEM FOUR STP DASH 24 DASH FIVE DASH 0 0 22 AND APPROVE PER RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE DRC.
SECOND, WE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
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TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEY.ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[5. SUP-24-05-0023 - Specific Use Permit – Smoking Lounge at 2410 Brady Ln (City Council District 3). Specific Use Permit for a smoking lounge in an existing commercial lease space. Lot 11B, Sharpston Heights 2, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned General Retail (GR), and addressed as 2410 Brady Ln]
NEXT CASE IS ITEM FIVE.A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SMOKING LOUNGE LOCATED AT 24 10 BRADY LANE.
THIS SMOKING LOUNGE LAND USE REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THIS PROPERTY IS GENERAL RETAIL.
THIS IS THE STREET VIEW AND THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE EXISTING RETAIL BUILDING THAT THEY'RE WANTING THE APPLICANTS ARE WANTING TO MOVE INTO.
UH, THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, SET FORTH BY THE UDC.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND FROM 5:00 PM TO 2:00 AM THE BUSINESS HOURS, UH, THEY WILL BE SELLING FLAVORED HOOKAH AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING CERTIFIED SECURITY PERSONNEL, UH, FOR THE DURATION OF THE OPERATION HOURS AND MULTIPLE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND WE'VE RECEIVED NONE IN, UH, SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, UH, 12 IN TOTAL.
UH, THE FIRST ONE, THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS SHALL ADHERE TO THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND OPERATIONS PLAN.
EIGHT LINERS SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES.
OPERATING HOURS SHALL BE LIMITED DAILY FROM 5:00 PM UNTIL 2:00 AM INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 21 WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SMOKE, POSSESS, OR PURCHASE TOBACCO PRODUCTS, INCLUDING E-CIGARETTES OR VAPES.
UH, IDENTIFICATION OF ALL PATRONS SHALL BE CHECKED BY STAFF PRIOR TO PATRONS ENTERING THE ESTABLISHMENT.
TO CONFIRM THE PATRON IS AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE.
STAFF SHALL ISSUE WRISTBANDS, UH, TO PATRONS THAT ARE AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE TO INDICATE THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SMOKE AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE.
STAFF SHALL CHECK IDENTIFICATION FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS PURCHASING TOBACCO PRODUCTS, UH, OR THEIR ITEMS WHICH REQUIRE THE PURCHASER TO BE OF A CERTAIN AGE.
THE BUSINESS SHALL BE OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE, FEDERAL, AND LOCAL LAWS.
A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT AS DEFINED BY SECTION 13, 1 31 OF THE GRAND PRAIRIE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS AMENDED SHALL NOT BE OPERATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SMOKING LOUNGE.
A NOISE STUDY WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS.
AND LASTLY, THAT THIS WILL COME BACK FOR REVIEW THROUGH PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL WITHIN A YEAR OF APPROVAL IF APPROVED.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? COMMISSION FOR DARCO.
THE NOISE STUDY, IS THAT DONE TO KIND OF ESTABLISH A PRETEXT OF WHAT NOISEY WAS BEFORE THE HOOKAH ENGINE BECAME IN OPERATION? AND THEN THEY'LL USE THAT MAYBE ONE YEAR LATER OR WHATEVER TO SEE HOW IT'S CHANGED.
SO, SO ENVIRONMENTAL PUT THIS CONDITION ON AND ONCE THEY'VE DONE THE SMOKE, UH, THE, THE NOISE STUDY, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO IF IT IS HIGHER THAN THAT SPECIFIC DECIBEL.
SO IT'S LIKE A BASELINE IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
BEING A SMOKING, A CIGAR, SMOKING LOUNGE, WHAT ABOUT THE VENTILATION IN THERE? WOULD THAT DO ANY SPECIAL ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO JUST REGULAR VENTILATION WITH, WITH THE SMOKE? SO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND IS NOT APPROVED, THEY HAVE NOT DONE THE CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SITE.
WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL THE BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS.
SO YOU JUST MEANT THAT AS A, AS A GENERAL STATEMENT, BUT NOT THE SPECIFICS ON THAT, THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL A BUILDING PERMIT STAGE.
THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS NEEDED FOR THE SPACE VENTILATION AND ARE ENVIRONMENT, OTHERWISE YOU WON'T APPROVE IT, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? YOU WON'T.
OR MAYBE YOU, IF IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY WILL BE STOPPED UNTIL THEY'RE CORRECT.
ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT MUST MEET BOTH BUILDING CODE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? THE APPLICANT'S GONNA SPEAK CORRECT.
SO WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM, BUT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS.
SO ONE IS THE APPLICANT MALAL BATH.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS GERRET KR KR.
I'D LIKE TO, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS RI CAR 36 20 COLDSTREAM DRIVE.
MY NAME IS MAY SING, UH, 36 20 COLD STREAM DRIVE.
AND WE'RE JUST WONDERING WHY YOU DECIDED TO WANT TO, TO HAVE THIS
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FACILITY HERE? YEAH.UM, SO WE CHOSE GRAND PRAIRIE FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M AN OKIE, UM, RAISED IN OKLAHOMA AND WE MOVED TO DALLAS, TEXAS ABOUT, UH, SIX YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THIS LOCATION IS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, UM, PURCHASE IN TEXAS.
SO GRAND PRAIRIE GAVE US A CHANCE, UM, AND WE WANNA KIND OF BRING THIS BUSINESS THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
UM, AND WE ACTUALLY WANNA BE ROLE MODELS FOR THIS SORT OF SUP DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S SORT OF, UM, NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE H****R LOUNGE, UM, WITH IT BEING LIKE A CLUB LIKE ENVIRONMENT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT, BUT WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO FOCUS ON FOR OUR, UM, STRATEGIES THAT WE WANT IT TO BE LIKE A ZEN-LIKE EXPERIENCE.
THINK OF FOUNTAINS, THINK OF GREENERY, THINK OF RELAXATION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS OF NOISE GOING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT PLACE.
IT'S GONNA BE A RELAXATION PLACE.
SO I, THAT WAS THE POINT THAT I WANNA BRING OUT IS JUST THINK OF IT AS A RELAXATION SPOT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A CLUB LIKE PARTY.
IS THIS YOUR FIRST FACILITY PERIOD? YES.
UM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF AND THERE'S THE WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 WON'T BE ALLOWED IN INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE 18 WON'T BE ALLOWED TO SMOKE AND THEN WRISTBANDS FOR ANYBODY UNDER THE AGE.
SO DID YOU HAVE ANY PREDETERMINED IDEAS ON WHO WERE YOU WERE ALLOWING IN BEFORE? BECAUSE I JUST LOOKED AND I GUESS SMOKING IS IN TEXAS NOW IS ONLY LEGAL AT 21.
SO I WOULD BE WONDERING IF YOU WOULD EVEN ALLOW AN 18-YEAR-OLD IN NO.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT IS THAT THE DOOR ITSELF, WE WOULD MAKE SURE WE CHECK THAT ID AND PROVIDE THOSE RESPONSE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE UNDERAGE IS NOT EVEN INSIDE THE PREMISES.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR WRISTBAND IF THEY WEREN'T 20, IF THEY WERE UNDER, UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
IF THEY WEREN'T 21 THAT, DID YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO JUST RESTRICT THAT ALREADY? 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO POLICE IT AT THE TABLE.
I'VE GOT KIDS IN THEIR, I THINK IT'S JUST MORE OF, UM, UM, AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY CHECKED THIS PERSON IN CASE THEY WANNA GO OUTSIDE AND STEP INTO THEIR CAR AND COME BACK INSIDE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET REVERIFIED.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE THAT COLOR CHANGING WRISTBAND DAILY.
SO WE KNOW THAT TODAY'S COLOR IS ORANGE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO IF THEY HAD TO STEP OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, THEY CAN JUST REENTER WITH THAT WRISTBAND.
SO THAT'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS OR THAT'S A DIFFERENT IDEA THAN WHAT STAFF HAS LISTED IN THE 12 ITEMS HERE? THEY MENTIONED AGE RESTRICTION WRISTBAND.
SO YOU WILL DO A WRISTBAND FOR ADMITTANCE CHECKING YES.
PROVING THAT YOU'VE CHECKED, CHECKED IN, OKAY.
UM, SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOUR.
SHOULD THAT BE CHANGED TO INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 21? SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED.
ABDUL, CAN WE MAKE, IF WE, IF WE VOTE TO APPROVE THIS, THAT NEEDS TO BE 21, NOT 18.
'CAUSE I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, SIR.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE UPSIDE OF HAVING A 20-YEAR-OLD IN THERE IF THEY CAN'T, CAN'T SMOKE.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS ABOUT CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN FRONT OF US.
AND THIS BEING YOUR OPPORTUNITY IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
UM, WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE, THE CERTIFIED SECURITY PERSONNEL? ARE WE TALKING TEXAS PEACE OFFICERS? ARE WE TALKING SECURITY GUARDS? ARE WE TALKING, ARE THEY CARRYING A WEAPON? UM, SO WE ARE, UM, OKAY.
WITH WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS.
UM, I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND US MENTIONING THAT WE WILL HAVE SECURITY IS BECAUSE WE WANNA GET RID OF THOSE NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH HOOKAH LOUNGES.
UM, LIKE I SAID, IF WE GO FOR THE STRATEGY THAT WE'RE INTENDING WITH LIKE THE SPA-LIKE FEELING, UM, A ZEN-LIKE EXPERIENCE, THERE SHOULD NOT BE NEED FOR ANY SORT OF RUCKUS OR COMMOTION TO BE HAPPENING.
UM, SO WHATEVER RECOMMENDED SECURITY, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO, UM, APPROACH THAT.
BUT, UH, THE IDEA IS JUST TO, UH, SHOWCASE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE THE SECURITY AVAILABLE, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA USE IT.
WE WANNA HAVE A APPROACH AWAY FROM THAT.
I, I LOVE THAT YOU SAY ZEN, BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GET ZEN AT 5:00 PM TO 2:00 AM 'CAUSE THAT DOES FEEL LIKE A CLUB.
UH, ONE LAST QUESTION IS, SO DID YOU, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR, ALL OF YOUR IDEAS, ARE THEY MODELED OFF OF, UH, FACILITIES HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE OR, OR FROM, UH, OKLAHOMA? UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE VISITED THE FACILITIES IN OTHER CITIES OUTSIDE OF GRAND PRAIRIE, AND WE ALSO NOTICED THE SAME THING THAT IT'S MORE OF A CLUB LIKE EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.
UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THAT.
WE WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE'VE COMPARED SORT OF OUR IDEAS TO THE EXISTING ONE IN GRAND PRAIRIE ZA.
UM, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NOT HAPPENING IN TERMS OF WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANNA GO THERE TO ENJOY.
UM, SO THE FORM OF ENJOYMENT THAT WE WANNA PROVIDE IS THAT
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RELAXING ENVIRONMENT THAT LIKE THE SPA, LIKE A ZEN-LIKE ENVIRONMENT.UM, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT WITH THE, WITH THE HOURS BEING CONCERNING AS WELL, UM, OUR GOAL IS AS SOON AS YOU FINISH YOUR FIVE O'CLOCK JOB, YOU HAVE SOMEPLACE TO GO AND START YOUR RELAXATION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TILL TILL AM.
UM, ZAZA CURRENTLY OPERATES FROM 11:00 AM TO 3:00 AM UM, AND OUR HOURS ARE PROPOSED FOR 5:00 PM TO 2:00 AM BUT WE'RE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, IF THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE UNDER THOSE HOURS, UM, WITH THE IDEA THAT WHEN WE COME BACK FOR A ONE YEAR REVIEW, WE SHOWCASE HOW WELL WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEAR AND MAINTAIN THAT INTEGRITY FOR THAT AREA.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SO WILL THIS BE YOUR, UM, AND THIS IS A MATTER OF CURIOSITY, NOTHING ELSE.
UM, WILL THIS BE YOUR, A FULL-TIME JOB FOR ONE OF YOU OR IS THIS GONNA BE A SECONDARY BUSINESS? IT'LL BE A FULL-TIME JOB FOR MY HUSBAND.
SIR, SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY THE ANYTHING WITH, SHE'S THE BOSS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US ANY INSIGHT ON THE, ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACILITY OR ANYTHING? UM, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT, I HEARD THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED IN THE BRIEFING.
WHAT, WHAT IS HOOKAH? SO HOOKAH IS PRETTY MUCH A, UM, A FLAVORED TOBACCO.
SO, UH, THERE'S A BIG APPARATUS, WHICH IS CALLED HOOKAH.
SO ON TOP OF THE APPARATUS IS THE, IS THE, THE FLAVORED HOOK.
UH, TOBACCO IS SET UP AND WITH THE HELP OF COAL, UH, THE, THE SMOKE PASSES THROUGH THE WATER THAT IS ON THE BOTTOM, WHICH COOLS DOWN THE SMOKE, AND THEN THE USER INHALES THAT SMOKE.
SO IT JUST FLAVORED THE FLAVORS.
THERE'S TONS OF FLAVORS, ALL THE FRUIT FLAVORS, BLUEBERRIES, STRAWBERRIES, MANGOES.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO GO WITH DOUBLE APPLE.
SO THERE'S, UH, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FLAVORS THAT YOU CAN, RIGHT.
I, I THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, DESCRIPTION.
BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, SMOKE, THE VENTILATION.
IS THERE, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO THE BUILDING? YOU GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT? SO YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO BUILDING, WE HAVE STARTED LOOKING OUT, UM, TO DIFFERENT VENDORS WHO PROVIDE THAT.
UM, ONE THING I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS, IS HAVING THE BEST VENTILATION SYSTEM YOU CAN HAVE OUT THERE IS ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE IF THAT SMOKE ACCUMULATES, CUSTOMERS DON'T WANNA STAY MM-HMM
SO IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO FIND THE BEST THAT EATS THAT SMOKE AND PUMPS IT OUT, UM, TO RETAIN THAT CUSTOMER BASE.
SO THAT WOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, DEFINITELY TO HAVE A GOOD ONE.
IS THERE A CAPACITY LIMIT ON HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE YOU CAN HAVE IN THERE AT ONE TIME BASED ON THE TYPE OF SERVICE THAT YOU'RE GIVING? UM, SO WE HAVE ONLY CURRENTLY 10 TABLES SET UP.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
UM, WE WANNA ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A DEDICATED SEAT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND HAVE THAT RELAXING EXPERIENCE.
UM, THAT KIND OF ELIMINATES THAT SORT OF, UH, UH, PARTY-LIKE CONJUGATION KIND OF THING HAPPENING IF PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP.
UM, AND ANOTHER THING I WANNA MENTION IS DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE, THE HOOKAH ITSELF, IT HAS TO BE CONSUMED INSIDE THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE, BE IN THEIR CARS, MAKING NOISE OUTSIDE OR ANYTHING.
UM, EVERYTHING WOULD BE CONTAINED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT'S THE PROXIMITY FROM ONE, A PATRON TO THE OTHER? UM, SO IT'S A, IT IS A 3,500 SQUARE FEET BUILDING AND WE ONLY HAVE 10 TABLES, SO YOU GOT BIG SPACE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER KO? SORRY.
UM, YOU GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT A HOOKAH PERSON, BUT I AM A PERSON THAT UNDERSTANDS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND YOU ARE SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THOSE PEOPLE THERE ON GREEN BROOK.
WOULD IT REALLY DESTROY YOUR BUSINESS IF IT WAS LIKE FIVE TO MIDNIGHT AND NOT UNTIL 2:00 AM UM, SO TO MAKE IT NOT LIKE A CLUB YEAH, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT.
ONE POINT I DID WANNA MAKE IS THAT, UM, I DUNNO IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PARKING.
SO IF YOU SEE THE PARKING SPOTS AT THE TOP, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY NEIGHBORING THE RETAIL CENTERS.
UM, AND THE, THE UNDEVELOPED PLOT IS THE ONE THAT'S NEIGHBORING THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF BUFFERING BETWEEN OUR PHYSICAL BUILDING AND THOSE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIALS.
WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR CLOSING AT MIDNIGHT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO STAY OPEN UNTIL TWO AND HAVE THAT REEVALUATION DONE NEXT YEAR, UM, TO SEE HOW WE DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE BUSINESS.
SO REAL QUICK, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AGE OF BEING 18.
SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT IT SAYS WITHIN THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE YOUR EMPLOYEES.
SO ARE YOU PLANNING ON EMPLOYING ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21? BECAUSE IF SO, THAT WOULD IMPACT RIGHT? WHAT YOU'VE 21 DISCUSSED WITH THEM EARLIER? 21.
WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, DISTRICT THREE.
IS THAT COMMISSIONER PEREZ? IS THAT COMMISSIONER PEREZ? MM-HMM
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TO FIVE.UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE APPROVE WITH THE MEMBERS.
WITH THE CHANGES YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THE, UH, THE D THE, UH, CHANGING ITEMS FOUR AND SIX ITEMS 6 2 21 ITEMS. YES.
TO CHANGE ITEM NUMBER WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DRC PROVIDED.
EXCEPT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE, UH, OVER THE AGE OF 21, WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21 WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
INDIVIDUALS OVER THE AGE OF 21 OR OF AT LEAST THE AGE OF 21, UH, AT LEAST THE AGE OF 21, NO ONE UNDER 21 WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
YEAH, THERE WAS ITEM SIX KIND OF HAS THE SAME THING.
SO IF YOU CHANGE ITEM FOUR, YOU NEED CHANGE.
UH, THE IDENTIFICATION OF ALL PATRONS WILL BE CHECKED BY STAFF PRIOR TO THE PATRONS ENTERING THE ESTABLISHMENT TO CONFIRM THAT THE PATRON IS AT LEAST THE AGE OF 21.
AND THAT IS THE ONLY, THE ONLY TWO ITEMS, TWO ITEMS THAT I FEEL NEED TO BE CHANGED.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ, UH, TO APPROVE WITH THE STIPULATIONS OF ITEM FOUR AND SIX BEING CHANGED TO 21 YEARS OF AGE.
BY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MADDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[6. SUP-24-05-0021 - Specific Use Permit – 2100 E. Main St (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit for Auto Dealer (Non-Franchise Used), Auto Repair (Major), Auto Body and Auto Paint Shop at 2100 E Main St. Lot 2, Block 2, Business Center Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-60, and addressed as 2100 E Main St ]
ITEM SIX IS, UH, ANOTHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ZOOM PERFORMANCE CENTER.UH, THIS SUP IS TO ALLOW AUTO DE DEALER NON-FRANCHISE USED MAJOR AUTO REPAIR, AUTO BODY AND PAINT SHOP AT 2100 EAST MAIN STREET ZONE PD 60 WITH A BASE ZONING OF LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS AT FORTH BY THE UDC.
UH, THIS IS A SITE PLAN WITH THEIR OFFICE SLASH BAY AREA.
THEY ARE PROPOSING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY A 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM UH, THEIR BUSINESS HOURS AND THEIR FOR SALE VEHICLES WILL BE STORED INDOORS AND WILL BE SHOWN, UH, BY APPOINTMENT ONLY 27, UH, LETTERS WERE SENT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE RECEIVED THREE IN OPPOSITION AND NONE IN SUPPORT.
UH, AND THE OPPOSITION LETTERS ARE ON YOUR DESK.
AND FOR THE VARIANCES, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, ONE, THE BUSINESS SHALL BE OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE, FEDERAL, AND LOCAL LAWS.
AND, UH, THE BUSINESS SHALL OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND, UH, AN AUTO RELATED BUSINESS PERMIT, UH, PRIOR TO OPERATING.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FOR ABDUL? I DID NOTICE ONE QUE ONE THING HERE AND THE, THE POSITION STATEMENT YOU GAVE US, ONLY ONE PERSON PUT A COMMENT MM-HMM
WAS THAT EVER DISCUSSED WITH THE UH, I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN IS HERE.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YEAH, I HAD, I HAD A QUESTION AS WELL ABOUT, UM, THE, WHERE STACEY STEWART, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR INTEREST IS IN IT, IF THEY HAVE A BUSINESS NEARBY.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY LIVE IN OR DESOTO.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
BUT IF THEY'RE HERE, THAT'S GREAT.
SO I BELIEVE MR. STEWART, UH, HE OWNS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, RIGHT? ADJACENT TO 21 AND EAST MAIN AND THIS STAR RIGHT HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS ABDUL.
SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM IF NEEDED.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME ON UP SIR, JUST FOR A MINUTE.
THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT WANNA ADDRESS THE, UH, OPPOSITION.
DO I STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ.
UH, WOULD IT BE MY HOUSE ADDRESS OR, YES, THAT'S FINE.
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PRESTON CIRCLE, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 2 11.UM, OH, THIS GENTLEMAN WAS WITH YOU? YES, HE, UH, MY NAME IS RAZA HUSSEIN.
UM, I LIVE IN 1137 HOLLY DRIVE IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS.
AT THIS, WELL, I JUST, THE CONCERN I HAD WAS YES, MA'AM.
MAAM, THE, THE REGISTERING A POSITION BY, UH, SOMEONE YES.
THAT LIVES NEARBY, SAYING THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, EXCESS DUST UHHUH COMING FROM THE INTERIOR AND WRECKED CARS.
SO ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? YES, MA'AM.
SO WE DO WORK BY AN APPOINTMENT BASIS, APPOINTMENT ONLY.
WE DON'T TAKE CARS IN AS THEY COME MM-HMM
UH, SO WE STAY PRETTY ORGANIZED WITH OUR, WITH OUR SCHEDULE.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE SAME PERSON THAT HAS THE CONCERN ALSO HAS, UH, TENANTS WHO DO AUTO REPAIR.
UM, PAINT AND BODY SUPPLIES, UH, SALES AND, UM, I THINK AC AUTO AC REPAIR FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BUSINESS.
SO HE HAS, SO HE HAS A SHOP OR RIGHT NEXT TO, WELL, NOT A SHOP.
HE'S THE, I THINK HE HAS TENANTS WHO ACTUALLY DO THE SAME THING THAT WE OKAY.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING IN COMPETITIVE? YES.
WELL, REALLY COMPETITORS, WE ARE SPECIALISTS.
MAZDA MIATA IS A LITTLE TWO-SEATER CONVERTIBLES.
AND, UH, WE TEND NOT TO HAVE CLUTTER.
WE, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WORK.
FOR WHAT? WHICH WE WORK BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE HAVING CLUTTER, EVERYTHING DONE INSIDE OF THE SHOP.
NO, ALL CARS GET BROUGHT INSIDE.
ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE IT'S A LIABILITY TO US FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
A LOT OF THESE CUSTOMERS HAVE, MOST OF THEM, A LOT OF THEM HAVE SENTIMENT VALUE TOWARDS THEIR CARS,
SO IF ANYTHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO THEIR CARS,
SO WHEN YOU WORK ON THE VEHICLES, ARE YOU INDOORS OR ARE, IS THE GARAGE UP? I MEAN, IS THE DOOR UP? DO YOU HAVE AC IN THERE? WHAT'S THE SCOOP ON THAT? WE DON'T HAVE AC MM-HMM
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO DO DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE CAN GO THROUGH WITH THIS MM-HMM
IS HAVE AC 'CAUSE IT DOES GET REALLY HOT DURING THE SUMMER.
AND WE'LL HAVE AN APPROVED, UH, UH, PAIN BOOTH WITH A FIRE SUPPRESSANT MM-HMM
UM, THE APPROPRIATE EXHAUST, EXHAUSTION, FILTER THE DUST.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THESE CARS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ARE SPECIAL, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, UH MM-HMM
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL AND DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LOCATIONS OR IS THIS THE FIRST PLACE YOU'RE OPENING? NO, THIS IS GONNA BE OUR SECOND LOCATION.
WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? UH, THE OTHER ONE IS IN DALLAS, UHHUH
UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING FROM THERE TO, TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY, FIRST LOCATION WAS IN GRAND PRAIRIE A LONG TIME AGO.
I USED TO WORK WITH A GUY THAT WAS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
I, I GREW UP IN IRVING, SO RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND A LOT OF MY FAMILY LIVES IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO, SO YOU STARTED HERE WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
YOU'RE IN DALLAS RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM
IS THIS YOUR BUSINESS THAT'S IN DALLAS OR ARE YOU WORKING FOR SOMEONE IN DALLAS? IT'S IN DALLAS.
AND, AND IF I MIGHT ASK, WHY, WHY ARE YOU MOVING HERE? UH, DALLAS.
UM, SOME PARTS OF DALLAS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT, OUR CUSTOMERS DON'T LIKE DRIVING THERE.
BECAUSE IT'S A BAD, IT CAN BE A PERIOD, SOME OF, SOME PARTS OF DALLAS CAN BE PRETTY BAD AREAS.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF ANY ISSUE WITH, UH, WHOEVER OWNS THE BUILDING CURRENTLY? NO.
IT'S, AND ARE YOU PURCHASING THIS BUILDING OR ARE YOU RENTING THIS BUILDING THAT IN GRAND PRAIRIE, WE'RE LEASING IT FOR FIVE YEARS, LEASING IT WITH A POSSIBLE FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.
PERSONAL OPPOSITION HAS SOMETHING ABOUT DUST.
WHAT KIND, WHEN YOU SAY BODY WORK, ARE YOU LIKE DOING LIKE PAINT? YOU NEED TO BE IN THE MI IN THE MIC.
UH, C CAN YOU HEAR ME? PERSON WHO WAS IN OPPOSITION SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DUST AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ARE YOU DOING LIKE BODY WORK AS FAR AS LIKE PAINTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES.
AND FOR THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN APPROVED, UH, LIKE A BOOTS, CERTIFIED BOOTS.
SO LIKE AS FAR AS LIKE DUST AND STUFF LIKE THAT TURN OFF, UH, YEAH.
IT'S, IT IS ALL BEING WORKED ON INDOORS INSIDE THE BUILDING AS WELL.
THERE'S NO WAY FOR IT TO ACTUALLY GO OUTSIDE.
WE'LL HAVE A PROPER EXHAUST AND EVERYTHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? GOOD EVENING.
UM, HE ALSO ASCERTAINS THAT THE, THE PRO, HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AUTO SALES AND CARS FOR SALE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
DO YOU PLAN ON HAVING CARS VISIBLY OUT TO SALE? NO.
THEY, THEY'LL STAY INSIDE? YEAH.
AND THEY'LL, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO A LOT OF.
IT'LL MAYBE BE ONE OR TWO, THREE CARS AT A TIME AND IT'LL BE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, NONE, NONE WILL BE DISPLAYED OUTSIDE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY, ALL THE DISCUSSION ON THIS? I BELIEVE THIS IS A COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ'S
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UH, AREA.MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
SORRY TO HOLD OFF FOR A SECOND.
SO WE HAVE ZZA HUSSEIN, BUT ZA
IT LOOKS LIKE A Z RAZA HUSSEIN WHO JUST SPOKE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE RICKY HICKS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, I THINK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK SIR? ON NUMBER SEVEN? HE'S ON THE NEXT ISSUE.
ANY OTHER? OKAY, WE HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM NUMBER SIX SUP 24 0 5 0 0 2 1 AND APPROVE WITH DDRC RECOMMENDATIONS? YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SIX BY COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[7. SUP-24-05-0022 - Specific Use Permit - Registered Group Home at 430 Beatty Dr (City Council District 3). Specific Use Permit for a registered group home on 0.16 acres. Lot 25, Block B, Royal Valley Estates No. 1 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned Single Family-Three Residential District, and addressed as 430 Beatty Dr]
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR REGISTERED GROUP HOME LOCATED AT FOUR 30 BD DRIVE ZONE SINGLE FAMILY THREE.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO OVER THAT BACKGROUND AGAIN.
I'M KIND OF WHILE WE'RE SEEING AN UPTICK IN THESE KINDS OF REQUESTS.
SO LAST YEAR IN JUNE, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE AN ORDINANCE THAT DOES REQUIRE ALL GR GROUP LIVING UNITS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, I'VE SCREENSHOT, UH, THE PORTION OF THE UDC THAT HAS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPE OF GROUP LIVING UNITS.
SO ALL OF THOSE USES FALL UNDER THAT GENERAL UMBRELLA.
SO ALL THESE TYPES OF USES NOW HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
SO ONCE THEY REGISTER, STAFF DETERMINES THE USE AND IF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
SO THIS WAS DETERMINED TO BE A REGISTERED GROUP HOME.
SO AGAIN, THAT DEFINITION FROM THE UDC SAYS REFERS TO A FACILITY LICENSED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND INCLUDES FACILITIES THAT ARE REFERENCED AS GROUP HOMES, COMMUNITY HOMES, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES OR RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AS DEFINED THE TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCE CODE AND IN A TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.
SO FOR REGISTERED GROUP HOMES, AN SUP IS TRIGGERED IF WE'RE THERE WITHIN 2,500 FEET OF AN EXISTING GROUP LIVING UNIT.
SO STAFF DID DETERMINE, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT THIS SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THIS ONE HERE IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS TRIGGERING THE SUP, SO THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AN OPERATION AT THAT LOCATION SINCE 1993.
SO STAFF WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT.
AND SO IT'S ABOUT EIGHT 1,818 FEET AWAY.
SO, BUT THIS RED CIRCLE HERE SHOWS YOU THAT 2,500 FOOT BUFFER ALL AROUND IT.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPLICANTS.
SO THEY ARE AGAIN, PART OF THE HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES ADULT MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM.
SO THEY'RE PROVIDERS THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THEY HAVE BEEN A PROVIDER SINCE 2020 THROUGH THE HUMAN HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION.
SO THEIR OPERATIONS AND CLIENTELE ARE REGULATED BY THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION.
AND SO THEIR SERVICES PROVIDED DO INCLUDE MEALS, MEDICATION, ADMINISTRATION, MEDICAL CARE, TRANSPORTATION, AND INDIVIDUALIZED REHABILITATION.
AS FAR AS THE OPERATIONAL PLAN, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST GROUP HOME WE LOOKED AT.
THE CLIENTS DO LIVE THERE FULL TIME.
THEY HAVE A MAX OCCUPANCY OF FOUR CLIENTS.
EACH OF THEM DO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN ROOM.
UM, SO THEY PROVIDE THE MILLS, THE TRANSPORTATION, THE MEDICAL CARE, ET CETERA.
SO STAFF UNDERGO A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK OFFICE, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CHECK, EMPLOYEE MISCONDUCT REGISTRY CHECK, AND DARD VENDOR CHECK ALL BEFORE THE EMPLOYMENT STARTS.
UM, AND STAFF ARE ON SITE 24 HOURS A DAY.
ALSO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I DID LOOK AT IT, COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEY DO NOT HAVE AN HOA.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM, THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA THIS LOCATION.
TO JUST, UM, AND SO THERE ARE NO VARIANCES.
THE APPLICANT'S NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
33 NOTICES WERE SENT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, ONE OF THEM WAS IN THE PACKET.
WE RECEIVED TWO AFTER THE PACKET WAS COMPLETED.
UM, AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE LARGELY ABOUT THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET AND IT BEING A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO DRC DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED FIVE, AND THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN ALL REQUIRED STATE LICENSES, INCLUDE STAFF PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE FACILITY? THE MAP? THAT ONE, THIS, ANOTHER ONE WITH THE, WELL, YOU HAVE THE DOTS ON IT.
SO THE, THE, UH, GROUP HOME, IS THAT AT THE DEAD END STREET OR IS THAT, I CAN'T TELL.
I WAS TRYING TO SEE THE, IF IT'S, IF IT GOES, SO THE ONE THAT'S EXISTING? YES.
UM, I BELIEVE IT IS A DEAD END STREET.
STREET IF I'M LOOKING CORRECTLY.
AND ACTUALLY THE ONE IN RED ISN'T EITHER.
UM, BUT THE ONE IN YELLOW IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE SUP REQUEST IS ABOUT.
IT'S NOT ON A DEAD END STREET.
SORRY, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I, UH, JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW FAST SOMEONE COULD GET OVER THERE.
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I DON'T HAVE ANY.THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, UH, BRITTANY, I, I NOTICED STAFF RECOMMENDATION SAYS FIVE, IT NOT EXCEED FIVE.
IS THIS A FIVE BEDROOM HOME OR? SO IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM HOME.
SO IT SHOULD NATURALLY KIND OF LIMIT ITSELF AT FOUR BEDROOM.
'CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CAP IT AT EACH OF THEM HAVE TO HAVE THEIR INDIVIDUAL HOME.
THE REASON WE'RE PUTTING FIVE IS 'CAUSE ONCE YOU HIT FIVE, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS HAVE TO BE PUT INTO THE HOME.
AND SO ONCE YOU HIT, WE WANT TO, IF WE ISSUE THE SEAL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME IN LATER AND THEN ADD MORE PEOPLE AND WE DON'T KNOW.
AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AND THEY DON'T.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK ONE OTHER QUESTION WAS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I THINK YOU STATED IN THE BOARD BRIEFING THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY INCIDENTS AT THIS LOCATION.
THEY NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY GET ON A REVIEW LIKE THIS, THEY LET US KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERN ABOUT THIS LOCATION.
THEY APPROVED IT WITHOUT, UH, IN NOTING ANY SPECIFIC INCIDENTS AS WELL AS FIRE.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS THE APPLICANT, MONICA ARMSTRONG.
WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
MS. ARMSTRONG, WOULD YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP PLEASE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? HELLO.
MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 86 10 GRANDVILLE DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS? JUST GO AHEAD.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE IN YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS AND JUST MAYBE YOUR BACKGROUND IF YOU HAVE A HEALTHCARE BACKGROUND.
I AM A SPEECH AND LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST BY TRADE.
I WORK IN A NURSING HOME AND, AND
I'M GLAD 'CAUSE I DO GET SCARED.
SO YES, I WORK IN A NURSING HOME.
I MAINLY WORK WITH THE ELDERLY ACTUALLY, WHO HAVE, UM, ANY KIND OF SPEECH LANGUAGE OR SWALLOWING, UM, IMPAIRMENT.
SO I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN, UM, THE MEDICAL FIELD.
UM, THIS IS MY BUSINESS PARTNER.
SHE IS A DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY.
UH, WE USED TO WORK TOGETHER IN A NURSING HOME.
THIS IS THE LANDLORD OF THE TENANTS.
UM, SO YES, WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE REALIZED WE, WE ENJOY HELPING PEOPLE.
AND WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE, UM, HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES PROGRAM FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WITH, UM, IDD.
AND IT'S DESIGNED SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT HAVING TO BE CONFINED TO A FACILITY.
UM, AND IT IS, IT'S SO THAT THEY'RE NOT JUDGED AND IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY, THEY CAN LIVE FREELY AND SAFELY IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AT ANY OF OUR OTHER GROUP HOMES.
LIKE, UH, BRITTANY MENTIONED WE CAN ONLY HAVE FOUR.
HOW MANY GROUP HOMES DO YOU HAVE TOTAL? SEVEN.
AND THEY'RE ALL IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE OR THEY'RE IN NO, WE HAVE NO, WE ONLY HAVE, UM, TWO IN GRAND PRAIRIE AND WE HAVE THREE IN DENTON AND TWO IN DALLAS.
WHERE'S YOUR OTHER GRAND PRAIRIE LOCATION IS THE ZION HILL.
MA'AM, IF YOU COULD PUT YOUR, SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 8 1 5 CRYSTAL OAK LANE, ARLINGTON, TEXAS 7 6 0 0 5.
WE ARE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AND A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE NOT THE ACTUAL TENANTS OF THE HOME.
WE PROVIDE SERVICES IN THEIR HOME FOR THEM.
SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A BLIND LADY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AUTISTIC MALE.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE MEETING ABOUT DISABLED PEOPLE AND SOMEONE IS OPPOSING.
WELL, WE, THEIR, THEIR ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU, THEY CHANGED, UH, AT A, A LOT OF LET, UH, RASH SPEAK TO THAT.
WELL, THE REASON WHY IS WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE LOCATION ITSELF.
IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
SO WHOEVER'S RELATED OR RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PROPERTY HAS TO GO BY AND GET APPROVAL FOR THE USE AT THAT PROPERTY.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE RIGHT PERSON OR NOT, STAFF COULDN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT THE NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE SUP IS REQUIRED FOR ANY OF THESE USES WITHIN 2,500 FEET.
THAT'S A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2013.
IS THIS FOR PEOPLE FOR MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE THOUGH? BECAUSE NO, NO.
THIS IS FOR ANY, IT CAN BE TWO PEOPLE IN THERE.
IT'S THE USE, IT'S THEIR, IT'S THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY.
WE'RE, THAT'S, WE'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY.
BUT IT, BUT IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PURPOSE
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FOR THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PERFORMED IN THE YES.I'M REALLY GONNA NEED AMERICA, THIS COUNTRY TO GET IT TOGETHER.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR HOME.
YOU'RE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN LIVE IN THEIR HOME.
NOBODY CAN TELL ME AND MY DAUGHTER THAT WE CAN'T LIVE IN OUR HOME.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, MA'AM.
OH, WHY ARE WE HERE? WE ARE HERE TO, OKAY.
WE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE ONLY HERE TO, FOR THE USE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, IT HAS TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN IT'S BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED.
I HAVE TO SAY THIS FOR BIDEN MM-HMM
I REALLY HOPE THEY HEAR THIS AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE ARE A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES SERVICES FOR THEM IN THE HOME, THEIR HOME.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S DISCRIMINATORY.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE CITY ORDINANCE.
IT IS DISCRIMINATION AT IS BEST.
WE CANNOT JUST TRY TO SUBJECT THEM TO HOODS AND TRAILER PARKS OR WHEREVER IT IS.
WE THINK THEY SHOULD LIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE DISABLED.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE, WE HAVE TO, WE, WE ARE AMERICA, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE ARE LACE CITIZENS MM-HMM.
THAT ARE HERE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE, THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT PEOPLE.
BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT DOGS.
SO ARE WE MEETING ABOUT DOGS? BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOU MA'AM.
WE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET, WE UNDERSTAND YOU.
WE CANNOT TREAT DOGS BETTER THAN PEOPLE.
AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE HERE.
YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO BE HERE BY THE CITY.
AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO HEAR IT AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE.
BUT BY NO MEANS ARE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, DISCRIMINATING OR INSINUATING ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE SERVING BY NO MEANS.
AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT WAS, THAT YOU EX KNEW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF HOME WE OPERATE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, WE CAN'T PACK UP TWO AND THREE PEOPLE IN.
ANYTHING ELSE? PRASH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE TO.
I JUST LIKE THAT YOU SAID THE HOME YOU OPERATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO.
WE'RE NOT SPEAKING TO THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE.
WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE HOME YOU OPERATE AND WHAT THE CITY HAS PUT IN, IN LINE FOR THAT.
IT'S NOT ANYTHING, ANY KIND OF BIAS WITH THAT AT ALL.
AND SO, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DID GET SPEAKER CARDS FROM SARITA MILLER AND KARISS MORELAND WHO JUST SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT.
BOTH OF THOSE WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
AND THEN WE DID HAVE, THEY HAD FILLED OUT A SPEAKER CARD SAYING THAT THERE WAS AN AHMED ANA WHO WANTED TO SPEAK VIA PHONE.
WE LET THEM KNOW THAT ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE NEEDED TO APPEAR IN PERSON.
SO THAT INDIVIDUAL CANNOT APPEAR VIA PHONE.
AND NEXT, AND NEXT WE HAVE GARY REED WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
DRIVE MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
WE SHARE PART OF A BACK FENCE.
THAT'S HOW CLOSE I AM TO THAT.
I'VE BEEN OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE'RE HAVING NEW FAMILIES MOVE IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME.
THERE'S BEEN TWO NEW FAMILIES MOVE IN THIS PAST YEAR WITH SMALL CHILDREN.
THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT'S BEING RUN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM ZAVALA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU LOOK OUT THE FRONT DOOR OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND YOU SEE THE FRONT DOOR OF THE SCHOOL.
CHILDREN WALK UP AND DOWN THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO SCHOOL AND COMING BACK TO SCHOOL.
LAST FRIDAY I WAS BY THIS RESIDENCE.
I HAD SOME BUSINESS ON THE STREET.
SO I COME AROUND THERE, THERE WAS 10 BAGS OF TRASH FOR PICKUP THAT DAY.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE OUR PICKUP DAY BECAUSE THE DAY BEFORE WAS A HOLIDAY.
AND YOU COULD TELL THAT THEY WERE FULL OF THE BLUE, UH, BED, UH, PADS THAT, THAT THAT THEY LAY ON.
AND THOSE KIDS ARE GONNA BE WALKING BY THAT TWICE A WEEK WHENEVER THEY GO IN AND OUT OF SCHOOL.
THE OTHER NIGHT, NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY NIGHT.
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O'CLOCK THERE WAS AN AMBULANCE AND A FIRE TRUCK THERE.IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THERE WHILE SCHOOL IS GOING ON, ESPECIALLY IF SCHOOL IS STARTING OR SCHOOL IS LETTING OUT, THAT'S A BUSY STREET.
AND FIRE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR UH, AN AMBULANCE OR SOMETHING AT WHICH THEY HAVE, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
THESE PEOPLE RUN A GOOD BUSINESS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.
THEY'RE NOT THERE TO BE NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE THERE TO RUN A BUSINESS TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE AND GOD HELP 'EM.
THE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE AND IT APPEARS THEY'RE ALREADY IN, IN USE.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A MEETING TO GET IT APPROVED IF THEY COULD OR NOT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY LIVING THERE AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE IN TO RUN THE BUSINESS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA KEEP THE HOUSE UP LIKE A RESIDENT WOULD.
BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE BACKYARD, IT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IF I CAN.
IS THIS PLACE BEEN INSPECTED? I'LL LET, UH, THE STAFF SPEAK TO THAT.
ANNUALLY IT'S INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY THE STATE AND WE'VE NEVER FAILED INSPECTION MY BACKYARD
WE GONNA LET OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT SPEAK TO THAT RASHAD.
SO AS APPLICANT NOTED, THE STATE ANNUALLY REVIEWS THESE AND INSPECTS THESE.
THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN USE SINCE 2020.
SO, UM, I'LL SAY WITH REGARD TO OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS, UM, OR THE RESIDENCE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES NOTED WITH REGARD TO CITY, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HASN'T NOTED ANYTHING.
UM, WHAT HAS TRIGGERED THIS IS A NEW REGISTRATION POLICY.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS IS BEFORE US.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE WITHIN 2,500 FEET.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT EITHER ONE OF YOU GUYS WOULD WANT THIS NEXT DOOR TO YOU.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? RICKY HICKS WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
THAT'S JUST TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THESE PEOPLE.
UH, THEY'RE, GOD BLESS 'EM FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WANNA STAY IN AND RESIDE IN.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS TOWN.
I FOUGHT FOR MY COUNTRY AND I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
AND JUST LIKE GARY SAID, THIS IS A NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE ALL NEW EACH, I'M PROBABLY THE OLDEST NEIGHBOR IN THE WHOLE PLACE NOW,
'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED OUT AND MOVED IN AND I BECAME FRIENDS WITH THEM.
BUT IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WANTED TO STAY THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU LIVE.
YOU, YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT'S THE WAY MY BACK FENCE IS.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT, IT JUST, IT'S LIKE IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL KIDS.
ANOTHER BAD THING THAT IS, IS WE HAVE A STOP SIGN RIGHT THERE AT BEAT IN KIRBY.
JUST BEFORE GARY COME PICK ME UP.
HAD TWO CARS, JUST WENT RIGHT ON THROUGH THAT STOP SIGN LIKE IT WAS, WAS NOT THERE.
AND YOU OUGHT TO SEE IT WHEN THE SCHOOL KIDS ARE COMING IN AND GOING.
WHAT I'M AFRAID OF, HONESTLY, IF THEY, IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S, THAT'S MENTALLY ILL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW? UH, THAT SCARES ME WORSE THAN ANYTHING.
LET ME JUST ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.
SO THIS HAS BEEN, UH, IN PLACE SINCE 2020.
SO THIS IS NOT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN YESTERDAY.
SO PRIOR TO THAT, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS OR, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS WITH THEM AT ALL.
I MEAN, THEY WERE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THE OTHER DAY WE HAD A, A BIG WINDSTORM AND, AND I NOTICED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THAT HOUSE CAME OVER AND HELPED US WITH THE LADY NEXT DOOR THAT LIVES BY HERSELF, THE ONE THAT LIVES RIGHT NEXT TO 'EM.
AND THEY DID COME OUT AND HELP AND, AND WE MOVED HER TREE FOUR THAT KIND OF FELL DOWN IN HER DRIVEWAY.
BUT I'M JUST NOT, LIKE GARY SAID, IT'S A BUSINESS AND I WANNA STAY IN A RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S THE REASON I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE.
THE REASON I, I MEAN, I COACHED ACROSS THE STREET FOR
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20 YEARS.BUT BUT YOU DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT AN HOA DRIVEN, CORRECT.
SAY AGAIN? THERE'S NO HOA NO, IT'S NO OOH IT'S KIND OF A, WE GOVERN OURSELVES.
TRY TO KEEP THE PLACE LOOKING GOOD, LOOKING NICE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M MOW MY YARD TWICE A WEEK,
BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE, SIR, SINCE 2020? SAY AGAIN? THEY'VE BEEN THERE IN THAT FACILITY.
YEAH, I, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
LIKE GARY'S SAID, THE ONLY THING I'VE SEEN IS THE AMBULANCES AND FIRE DEPARTMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S JUST, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SORRY THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY AND WE DO UNDERSTAND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, BIT SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS MEETING.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS ANY DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE THIS IS COMMISSIONER PEREZ'S, UM, DISTRICT COMMISSIONER PEREZ, OF WHICH YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE ANY DISCUSSION IF NEED BE.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THERE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL OVERSATURATION ISSUE TO WHERE YOU, THE I I THERE WAS, THERE WERE SOME SPEAK, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE BY THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THESE, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THESE, OF THIS, THESE KINDS OF HOMES HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
PODIUM ON UP HERE WOULD, BUT THERE IS THAT CONCERN.
AND, UH, IF I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE GOING WITH WHATEVER COMMISSIONER PEREZ SAYS, OR RASHAD, IF WE THINK WE ARE NOT GONNA GET BETTER DATA IN THAT REGARD THAN IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT IF NOT, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S, THAT WAS MY ONLY ISSUE.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING ISSUE, BUT MY CONCERN IS THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2020 AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUE.
SO THAT SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE'S NOTHING OUT OF ORDER AT THIS POINT.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
IF I CAN SAY I, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS IS AVAILABLE AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH VOTING AT THIS TIME.
UH, CHRISTOPHER, MR. COMMISSIONER COLEY, YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UH, TECHNICALLY NOT.
UH, BECAUSE WE HAD SPEAKING TO THE MIC.
ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE MIC? YEAH, I CAN FEEL, UH, I CAN FEEL WITH THE OPPOSITIONS, BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT THESE DISABLED PEOPLE.
THEY NEED HELP AND WE HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THEM ALSO.
COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? NONE WHATSOEVER.
AND COMMISSIONER MADDEN, YOU'VE ALREADY STATED YOURS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS.
UM, YEAH, SPEAKING TO THE MIC, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE MIC.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS.
UM, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE.
YOU MAKE, YOU MAKE A MOTION THAT, AND I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SUP DASH 24 DASH ZERO FIVE DASH 0 0 2 2 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE REGISTERED GROUP HOME AT FOUR 30 BEATTY DRIVE WITH, UM, THE DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECOND, HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THAT BEING THE LAST CASE IS 7:36 PM THE MEETING IS, IS CLOSED.