[CC Briefings 06182024]
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WELL NEEDED ORDER.I THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT.
UH, YOU DID REALIZE IT AFTER TONIGHT.
THOSE OF US KIND OF LIKE TO BREAK OR FIXING TO GET ONE, BECAUSE JULY IS A FIVE TUESDAY MONTH, WHICH I LOVE.
I'M GOING TO REALLY LOVE JULY.
'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY MEETING ONE TIME IN
SO IF YOU ADD THOSE WEEKS UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE MEETING.
AND I HAVE LOTS OF WEEKS, SO TAKE YOUR VACATIONS NOW, COUNSEL.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO PROBABLY THE JULY MEETING, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE 16TH, I THINK.
WILL, SO, UH, LET'S GET STARTED.
IT IS OUR, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, MEGAN HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE LAKE RIDGE COMMUNITY PRO PROJECT OUTREACH PROCESS.
AND K IS THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE HIRED.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MEGAN SO SHE CAN INTRODUCE THEM AND SHOW YOU WHAT, WHERE, WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO DERWIN AND BRIAN WITH KAI, WHO WILL BE LEADING THE ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS RELATED TO THE LAKE RIDGE COMMUNITY PROJECT.
UM, THANK YOU MEGAN FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
I'M ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS WITH KAI.
WE ARE A 44-YEAR-OLD ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING FIRM HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, WE'RE ABOUT 165 EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT TO KICK OFF THIS PROJECT WITH YOU.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT OUR FIRM IS THAT WE BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND HAVING THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY INGRAINED WITHIN OUR PROJECTS.
AND SO WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS TEAM AROUND THAT.
OF COURSE, I'M DARLING BRIGHT, I'M SERVING AS THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE.
UM, ALSO ON OUR TEAM IS MIKE CROWELL.
MIKE CROWELL BRINGS ALMOST 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
UM, HE'S A RECREATIONAL PLANNER AND HAS A EXCEPTIONAL EXPERIENCE.
AND, UM, YOU'LL HEAR FROM BRIAN GRAHAM TONIGHT AS WELL.
HE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIMSELF, BUT HE'S OUR CIVIC MARKET LEADER AND HE'LL BE HELPING TO LEAD THIS EFFORT.
UM, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, WE HAVE OUR OTHER TWO PROJECT, UM, PROJECT LEADS.
CHRIS HUNTER, UM, HE'S OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER, CHRIS WADE, HAND FOR THE PEOPLE LEGACY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, RAIN JACKSON, WHO IS OUR SENIOR PROJECT ARCHITECT AND DESIGN.
SO BRIAN, WHY DON'T YOU COME AND TELL, UH, WALK US THROUGH THE SCHEDULE FOR THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO TALK THROUGH THIS PROJECT WITH YOU.
UH, AS, UH, CITY MANAGER HILLS MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN IN MEETINGS WITH THE CITY STAFF, PARKS AND REC, AS WELL AS LIBRARY SERVICES TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND HOW BEST WE CAN, UH, USE THIS OUTREACH PROCESS TO GET TO THE, THE GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS.
UH, PRIOR TO OUR MEETING HERE TONIGHT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, UH, NOTATED WITH THE RED LINE HERE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS BACK AND FORTH EMAILS TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE CREATING A SURVEY, UH, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEND OUT TO THE CITIZEN TO READ WITH COMMENTS FROM TONIGHT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION, UH, NECESSARY TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION.
UH, AS YOU NOTE HERE, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU CAN SEE WITH THE, THE YELLOW, UH, DIAMONDS HERE.
UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO ISSUE A SURVEY, WHICH WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT HERE AT MOMENTARILY, UH, TO THE CITIZEN READ.
SO WE CAN GATHER FEEDBACK FROM ACROSS THE CITY AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY IN THE TARGET, UH, ZIP CODES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ARE SURROUNDING LAKEBRIDGE COMMUNITY.
SO WE WILL GO THROUGH A PROGRAMMING PROCESS, WHICH WILL TELL US WHAT THIS PROJECT COULD BE, UH, A SIZE, AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THAT UP WITH A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS TO TELL US WHAT CAN ACTUALLY OCCUR ON THIS SITE.
UH, AND THEN, SO THIS PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO, UH, TO EXTEND UNTIL OCTOBER WHERE WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND PRESENT OUR FINDINGS FROM THE SURVEY, UH, AS WELL AS THE DATA, UH, AGGREGATED AS WELL AS THIS, UH, MASTER PLAN OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY UNDERTAKEN THE SURVEY PROCESS, UM, RECEIVED A NUMBER OF RESPONSES, BUT IT JUST WASN'T THE, THE, THE NECESSARY FEEDBACK TO COME TO SOME COMBINATION OF, UH, A PROJECT THAT COULD OCCUR.
AND SO WE WANT TO EXPAND ON THE WORK THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY DONE.
UH, NOT TO DISCARD IT, BUT TO EXPAND ON THE, THE PROCESS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY COMPLETED.
SO WE MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT WE, WE OBTAIN ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING ALL THE CITIZENS WHO WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT, AND EVEN SOME OF THE, THE WIDER ZIP CODE AREAS THAT THAT CAN INFORM CITY'S, UH, PROCESSES AND FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UH, SO WE LOOKED AT THE SITE SPECIFICALLY AT THE CORNER OF ENGLAND PARKWAY AND LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY, AND WE STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE AMENITIES, UH, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC THAT ARE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER MILE, HALF MILE AND A MILE OF THE SITE.
BUT WE NOTICE THAT THERE IS NO A DEARTH OF CITY, UH, FACILITIES WITHIN THIS, THIS AREA.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT OCCURS AT THIS SITE, THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT IN COMPETITION OR,
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UH, WE'RE PROVIDING AN AMENITY THAT WILL BE, UH, ADDITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.AND SO WE, WE LOOKING AT THESE FIVE, UH, TARGETED ZIP CODE AREAS, AND YOU'LL HEAR, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY, WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS IN THESE ZIP CODES, UH, ONE, EXCUSE ME, TWO FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS IN THE 7 5 0 5 2 AREA CODE.
SO THAT'S WEST AND EAST OF LAKE RIDGE PARKWAY, TWO IN THE 7 5 0 5 4.
SO IN NORTH AND SOUTH OF ENGLAND PARKWAY.
AND THEN THE 7 5 1 0 4, UH, ZIP CODE AS WELL.
AND SO I'LL BRING UP, UH, CLAUDIA TO TALK ABOUT THE MARKETING STRATEGY AND HOW WE'LL REACH THOSE CITIZENS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CLAUDIA
SO OUR PRIORITY IS TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE, UM, FINDS OUT ABOUT THE SURVEY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE USING ALL OUR MARKETING TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
AND, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE WE REACH THOSE ZIP CODES SOUTH OF I 20 WITH THE MARKETED OR TARGETED MAILER.
AND, UM, WE'RE THOSE, YOU SEE THE LISTING THERE OF ALL THE ZIP CODES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH HOAS AND BIDS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO SHARE THAT, UH, WITH OUR GROUPS AS WELL, WHILE WE'RE USING ALL OUR USUAL GO-TOS, WHICH IS THE, THE PIPELINE, UM, THE INTERNAL NEWSLETTER, OUR WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA, VIDEO PRODUCTIONS AS WELL.
UM, WHAT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND IS WE'RE, UM, PROVIDING WITH THE HELP OF KAI, UH, FOCUS GROUPS THAT WHERE WE, WE'LL HAVE AVAILABLE SPANISH INTERPRETERS FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, THAT ARE SPANISH SPEAKERS ONLY.
AND, UH, LAST, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THESE, UM, MARKETING MATERIAL IS TRANSLATED.
SO AGAIN, OUR, OUR FOCUS IS TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT, UM, LEARNS ABOUT THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ON THIS, UH, SURVEY.
SO WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR PROPOSED SURVEY AND WE RECEIVED SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK ON THESE QUESTIONS SO FAR.
AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO INTEGRATE THE, WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE THOSE COMMENTS INTO THE OVERALL SURVEY.
BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO HERE THIS EVENING IS WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, I THINK SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO YOU'VE HAD A PREVIEW TO, TO THESE, UM, QUESTIONS.
AND THE FIRST QUESTION WE WANT TO ASK IS, FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU WANT A COMMUNITY PROJECT AT THE HIGHLIGHTED LOCATION? YES OR NO? YOU ALSO WANNA PROVIDE A FEEL FOR IF THEY WANNA PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, UM, INTO WHY THEIR RATIONALE IS WE CAN GET THAT INPUT FROM OUR, OUR RESIDENTS.
WE ALSO WANNA COLLECT SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.
AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT BASICALLY, EVEN THOUGH YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, THAT FIRST QUESTION, YES OR NO, WE STILL WANT TO GATHER SOME, SOME BASIC INFORMATION FROM YOU.
'CAUSE AT THE END OF THESE, THIS DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, WE'RE GONNA GIVE ALL THE, UM, APPLICANTS AN OPTION TO OPT OUT OF THE REST OF THE SURVEY.
SO IF THEY SAID NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA FORCE YOU TO DO THE REST OF THE SURVEY, BUT WE WANT TO GATHER BASICALLY WHERE THOSE VOICES ARE COMING FROM AND WHAT AREAS THEY'RE REPRESENTING AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL INFORM YOU GOING FORWARD WITH FUTURE PROJECTS AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, WE WANT THEM TO DESIGNATE THEIR ZIP CODE AND IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE THOSE AREAS, WE'RE GONNA CAPTURE THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WHEN I SAY NO ON QUESTION ONE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GATHER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM THAT OPTION.
OKAY? THEY, THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMING FROM SUB 5 0 5 0 OR SUB 5 0 5 4.
NO, I'M, WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW IS ACTUALLY FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THE DEMOGRAPHICS DON'T ANSWER THESE NEXT FIVE TO SIX QUESTIONS.
SO IF THEY SAY NO, WE'RE GONNA ENFORCE 'EM OR FORCE 'EM, THEY CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LEAVE THE SURVEY AT ALL.
TOTALITY, WE'RE GONNA ASK 'EM TO GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE WHAT, WHICH DO THESE ZIP CODES DIFFER FROM? YEAH, SO MY POINT WAS 7 5 0 5 4 IS WHERE THE THE CENTER IS BEING CLOSED.
IF SOME, WE DON'T KNOW IF 7, 5, 0 5 4 IS SAYING NO, CORRECT.
SO IT IS, IT BEHOOVES THEM TO ALL FINISH THIS PORTION.
SO WE KNOW THE NOS ARE COMING FROM YES, YES SIR.
BUT FROM WHAT THE MEANS I'VE GONE TO, THEY'RE FINE WITH JUST KNOW NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GREAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
I'M JUST SAYING THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINE WITH THAT, BUT THEY WON'T KNOW WHERE THE NOS ARE COMING FROM.
IF THEY'RE, WHY DON'T WE PUT NUMBER TWO UP FIRST? WE CAN DO THAT TOO, THE QUESTION AND FOR THE FIRST, BUT, BUT MAYBE PUT NUMBER TWO UP FIRST BECAUSE I AGREE WITH CREDIT.
IF WE NEED, I, WE'D ALL NEED TO KNOW.
SO THAT IS LESS LIKELY FOR THEM TO OPT OUT AFTER THEY SAY NO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES SIR.
AND THEN WE CAN'T FORCE 'EM TO DO ANY OF IT, BUT AT LEAST MAYBE WE WILL HAVE THAT ZIP CODE INFORMATION THEN THEY SAY SAY NO.
WE STILL, FROM YOUR UNDERSTANDING, YEAH, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET 'EM TO FILL IN THE NEXT THREE.
BUT AT LEAST WE GRABBED THAT LITTLE THAT'S ON THAT QUESTION.
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YEAH, THEY SAY NO OR GO, I'M SORRY FOR THE FIRST QUESTION.WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY BECOME THE SECOND QUESTION.
UM, CAN WE PUT IN PARENTHESES SOMETHING LIKE WHEN WE SAY COMMUNITY PROJECT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY PROJECT NOT LIMITED TO, I DON'T KNOW, QUOTE COMMUNITY CENTER OR YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED, WHICH IS OUR, THE MEETING STAFF I HAVE ATTENDED.
UH, IT IS, IT IS PRETTY MUCH, UH, IT IS NOT, THAT'S NOT GOING THERE.
THEY WANT, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, UH, THEY'RE NOT TOO KEEN ON, OKAY, SO RETAIL PROJECT, THEY EVEN WANT A DOG PARK THERE.
THEY, THEY IN A PARK WOULD A PARK BE CONSIDERED LIKE NOT NECESSARILY GREEN SPACE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUTSIDE OUTSIDERS COMING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.
ALTHOUGH WE LIVE IN THE CITY TOGETHER, IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS.
THEY, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
HIGH HAWK COMMUNITY HAS PAINTED A PICTURE WHERE WE ARE GOING THROUGH WHO OWNS HIGH HAWK PARK, THE CITY OR HIGH HEART, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT THAT WE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT YET.
AND I, I BELIEVE THE STAFF IS PRETTY MUCH CORRECT ON IT.
THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY'VE HAD FIRES IN THE TRASH CANS, THEY'VE GOT NEEDLES, THEY GOT GRAFFITI.
SO THE COMMUNITY DOWN THERE, THEY'RE HEARING THAT AND THEY DON'T WANT THE SAME THING.
IS IS, WELL I SAY TO SAY THAT COMMUNITY PROJECT CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IS GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN THROUGH ALL THIS AND GO BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS.
MAYBE WE'LL ANSWER SOME OF OUR OWN QUESTIONS LIKE I HAD AS WE GO THROUGH.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THIS VERY FIRST QUESTION WHETHER YOU MOVE TO THE SECOND TO ALSO INCLUDE THE OTHER LOCATION THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER? BECAUSE THIS SURVEY IS GOING EVERYBODY THAT LIVES SOUTH OF I 20, I PRESUME.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE OPTIONS JUST SO PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST SAYING, NO, I DON'T WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER AT ALL.
MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO AT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION.
THEY WILL BE COMFORTABLE AT THE OTHER LOCATION AT THE CITY OFFICE.
IF IF IT'S 7, 5, 0 5 4, THEY'RE PROBABLY ALL GONNA, NOT GONNA SAY ALL, SOME ARE GONNA SAY NO, 7, 5, 0 5 2 OR 7, 5, 0 5, WHATEVER OTHER ZIP CODE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SAY NO.
SO IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME NO MATTER WHERE THEY PROBABLY, WE LOOK AT NOT, MAYBE NOT IN MY, NOT IN MY BACKYARD, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE.
SO IT IS, YOU MAKE A VERY VALID POINT THAT STAFF NOW WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE, UH, FOCUS GROUP AND I, I BELIEVE IF IT IS IN THIS SAY ANOTHER LOCATION YEAH, THEY HAVE WITH IT, BUT THE PEOPLE THERE THEY MIGHT, NO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR, I WEREN'T OVER THERE.
SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND WHAT IS THE OTHER LOCATION I TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO, AND IT'S NOT A, A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY SAMPLE, BUT THEY GENERALLY LIKE IT IN THIS OTHER LOCATION.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER LOCATIONS UP ON LAKE, FURTHER NORTH, LAKE RIDGE, LAKE, UH, JOHNS DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHY PERSONALLY FOR ME, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE BOTH OFFICERS LISTED, LET THEM TELL US NO, RATHER THAN ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY NOTHING.
LET'S, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.
LET'S, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S THINK, LET'S LET THEM FINISH PRESENTATION.
AND THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A, AND OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IT UP THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THESE TWO.
WE'RE GOING BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY OWN GOING BASED ON WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW AND WHAT WE OWN LAND ON.
WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO LET YOU GO AT LEAST THREE MORE POINTS.
SO WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS ABOUT THE, THE VARIOUS ZIP CODES.
WE'RE GONNA GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND OF COURSE WE ALSO, THE WHOLE INTENT OF THESE QUESTIONS IS NOT ONLY THAT WE WANT TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GET THE DATA AND AS YOU ARE ALL SPEAKING TO, IS WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BASICALLY STRATIFY THAT DATA AND SEE WHERE THOSE VOICES, WHERE THOSE YESES, THOSE NO'S, THOSE OPINIONS ARE COMING FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT, DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA WAS.
AREA ONE AND TWO WE'RE BASICALLY DIVIDED THE NORTHERN PART OF THE, UM, BETWEEN INTERSTATE 20 AND THE UM, AND THE, UM, LAKE IN THE TWO AREAS WITH LAKE RIDGE RUNNING, UM, DOWN THE CENTER OF IT.
AND THEN WE'RE DIVIDING A PENINSULA IN HALF WITH ENGLAND PARKWAY BASICALLY DIVIDED IT FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
AND IN THE SECTION THAT'S JUST BELOW THE LAKE IN AREA FIVE, WE WANT TO GATHER AS FAR AS THE AGE GROUPS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GATHERING AS WELL, HOW MANY CHILDREN IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
I THINK THIS IS MORE OF JUST A, A GOOD TO KNOW QUESTION.
UM, AS FAR AS REALLY WHAT TYPE OF AUDIENCE ARE WE SERVING WITH THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE? ZERO TO FIVE YEARS.
SIX TO 10, 11 TO 20 AND 20 YEARS PLUS.
UM, THIS IS A QUESTION WE ALWAYS LIKE TO ASK AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FORMATTING FOR SOMETHING
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HAPPENED IN THE, UM, WHEN WE ACTUALLY CONVERTED THE FILE.BUT WE WANNA KNOW WHAT MAKES THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE UNIQUE.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA USE TODAY, BUT AS WE GO FORWARD IN DESIGN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH ALL YOUR FACILITIES AND MAKING THEM UNIQUELY GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND WE WANT TO CARRY THOSE FOUR OF THIS FACILITY AS WELL.
SO WE WANT TO HEAR THOSE VOICES.
AND SINCE WE HAVE THIS AUDIENCE, LET'S TRY TO GATHER THE INFORMATION NOW AND THEN WE GET INTO THE USER GROUP MEETINGS LATER ON.
WE'LL START TO REALLY TRY TO DRILL INTO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE SPECIFIC AREAS INTO SOME OF THOSE, THOSE SPECIFIC, UM, INPUTS.
AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE SIMILAR TO THAT AS WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ON A SCALE FROM ONE TO FIVE, WITH ONE BEING NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL AND FIVE BEING EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK IT IS FOR THE CITY TO OWN AND OPERATE A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED ACROSS DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY? SO I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP TO KIND OF ANSWER SOME OF THOSE COMPETING OPINIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL.
AND WE WANNA KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WORK OUT, WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR RECREATION FROM? DO THEY PRIMARILY USE IT, YOU KNOW, AT THEIR HOME, AT A CITY OWNED FACILITY OR PARK A NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITY CENTER OR PRIVATE HEALTH CLUB OR THEY JUST DON'T WORK OUT AT ALL.
THEY JUST, THEY'RE LIVING THEIR LIFE.
AND UM, THESE NEXT COUPLE OF LISTS, THEY'RE NOT COMPREHENSIVE, BUT WE REALLY TARGETED A SPECIFIC GROUP OF, UM, FACILITIES THAT YOU CURRENTLY OWN.
AND WE ONLY KNOW WHICH ONES THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUBLIC AND YOUR RESIDENTS ARE USING CURRENTLY.
SO YOU SEE ALL THE VM FACILITIES LISTED THERE WITH THE SUMMIT, THE EPIC, CHARLIE TAYLOR SPLASH FACTORY, CHARLIE TAYLOR, TONY
SO AGAIN, WHAT ARE PEOPLE CURRENTLY USING? AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN START TO SEE WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE ZIP CODES, ARE PEOPLE DRIVING ACROSS TOWN TO GET TO CERTAIN FACILITIES THAT THEY WANT TO USE TO MANATEES IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD START TO REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO.
AND THE SAME THING WITH CITY TRAILS AND PARKS AND WE LISTED THIS WHOLE SLEW OF PARKS THERE AND THEN WE START ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
LIKE THERE MAY BE CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN THOSE PARKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SWING SETS OR, OR SOCCER FIELDS OR WHATEVER THAT'S ATTRACTING HOLES FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, AS FAR AS AMENITIES IN YOUR AREA.
SO THEY CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE 'EM, BUT WHAT, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? WOULD, COULD YOU PLEASE ADD A PICKLE BALL TO THOSE BOARD? YES MA'AM.
WE CAN
CAN YOU ADD GARDENS, GARDENS, COMMUNITY GARDEN, COMMUNITY GARDEN? WE CAN DEFINITELY, THIS, THIS WAS ABOUT THREE TIMES AS LONG, BUT YEAH, WE CAN ADD 'EM BACK.
UM, WE WONDER WHAT TYPE OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES THAT YOU OR YOUR, YOUR FAMILY CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE IN AND THEY, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF ACTIVITIES THERE THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM.
WE GOT FIVE MORE QUESTIONS LEFT.
AND SO WHAT DO YOU, THE LAST QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE YOU CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE IN? WHAT THE NEXT THIS QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN? AND IT'S THE SAME LIST OF ACTIVITIES AND THEN WE SHIFT AND THIS PARTICULAR, SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE THIRD SEGMENT STATEMENT IN THE, UM, OVERALL SURVEY AND WE, WE SHIFT TO THE LIBRARY.
SO WE WANNA KNOW WHAT UM, LIBRARY FACILITIES THEY CURRENTLY USE AND WHAT SERVICES, UM, DO YOU CURRENTLY USE AT THOSE LIBRARIES.
AND WE ALSO INCLUDE THE NONE 'CAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T CURRENTLY USE SERVER, UM, AT THE LIBRARY WITHIN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND HOW FREQUENTLY DO YOU VISIT THE LIBRARY AND THEN WHEN YOU VISIT THE LIBRARY, IT'S FOR ONE OF THE FOLLOWING OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING, CHECKING OUT BOOKS ASKING THE USE OF COMPUTERS, LIBRARY PROGRAM CLASSES, QUIET STUDYING, ET CETERA.
AND SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE SURVEY.
THERE'S ALSO TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ASK IS BASICALLY IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR THAT.
AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER BASICALLY INPUT FIELD THAT THEY WANNA PROVIDE, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT DIDN'T, WEREN'T CAPTURED IN SURVEY QUESTIONS.
SO BASICALLY AFTER THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING, HERE'S A QUESTION THAT BASICALLY SAID, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE SURVEY, YES OR NO? AND THEN THEY CAN EITHER OPT OUT OR CONTINUE ON WITH THE QUESTIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO SERVE TO HELP US MAKE SOME DECISIONS IS BASICALLY FOR YOU RAY, IN THE UPCOMING STUDY Y'ALL ARE FIXING TO DO.
BUT WE KNOW WE'RE DOING THIS FOR ONE SPECIFIC PURPOSE, BUT WE'LL DON'T GLEAN VALUABLE INFORMATION BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE FIXING TO GO THROUGH YOUR 10 YEAR REVIEW.
AND SO THIS WILL HELP YOU, Y'ALL, YOU AND THE PARK BOARD STAFF SOME VALUABLE FEEDBACK JUST ON WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT CITYWIDE.
SO I'M HOPING OUR CITIZENS TAKE BLACK VIEWER MENTIONING THEY JUST DON'T SAY NO AND DON'T ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE.
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THIS INFORMATION.UM, AND THIS WILL HELP US MAKE A DECISION.
UH, BUT, AND IT SHOWS OUR CITIZENS THAT WE DO WANT THEIR INPUT.
SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, THE, UH, QUESTION THAT YES OR NO BE AT THE END BECAUSE WE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THIS.
I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT, BUT I WOULD HOPE THEY FILL OUT THE REST OF IT.
I I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO FILL OUT THE WHOLE SURVEY AND IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, Y'ALL ARE THE EXPERTS.
DO YOU WANT IT AT DISLOCATION? BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WE DO WANT THE OTHER INFORMATION TOO.
SO, UM, IT'S ALL IN WORDSMITH AGAIN.
UH, POSSIBLY MOVE IT FURTHER DOWN, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, ARE YOU RAY, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS COULD BE VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR YOU AND ALL OF US ON WHAT OUR, OUR CITIZENS USE.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT MAYBE WORD SPENDING OR MOVING IT DOWN.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST KNOW I'M DONE.
WE WANT TO HEAR THE YES OR NO, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE YES OR NO AND DONE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOU THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS? YEAH, THAT, THAT FIRST QUESTION OR SECOND QUESTION? I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE IN ANY SURVEY OR ANY FORM OF SURVEY RESPONSE PEOPLE, THE FURTHER QUESTION IS DOWN THE LESS LIKELY TO ANSWER, ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM.
IT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST FEW QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE OTHER OPTION.
YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE ONE LOCATION WE JUST SHOW IT COULD BE HERE AND THAT GETS SOME MAYBE TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS.
I I DON'T SUPPORT JUST HAVING ONE LOCATION DISPLAYED.
I HAD A QUESTION ON THE SECOND, THE SECOND QUESTION YOU SIR, IF THIS SURVEY, CAN I GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING JUNIOR? DO YOU WANT THEM TO ANSWER THE YES NO UP FRONT AND I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SAY QUESTION TWO OR THREE IS YES NO IN THIS LOCATION SOMEWHERE UP UP THE TOP WITHIN THE TOP THREE QUESTIONS.
DO YOU WANT THEM CONTINUE WITH THE SURVEY? YEAH, BUT IS THEY SAY THEY GONNA MAKE AN OPTION.
SO DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE OPTION AWAY? NO, I WANT TO HAVE THE OPTION.
I WANT HOW WE HAVE THIS FIRST QUESTION RIGHT HERE TO SAY, DO YOU WANT, WHICH LOCATION WOULD YOU PREFER A COMMUNITY PRODUCT COMMUNITY CENTER AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
WHICH LOCATION WOULD YOU PREFER A COMMUNITY CENTER AT AND HAVE BOTH LOCATIONS DISPLAY? SAME WAY YOU GOT, YOU HAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
SO JUST SAYING THAT YES, NO, JUST A OR B OR C.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT HE'S AT AFTER A, B OR C.
I MEAN THIS A OPTION A, OPTION B OR NEITHER.
THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION THAT THAT, THAT MAY, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN THE SECOND, HANG ON, LET'S MAKE SURE WE, THAT CLARIFIED SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER OF MAYOR PRO CLEMSON AND ALSO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER S LIKE THAT MAYBE, UM, AB BAC OR C EITHER.
AND THAT WAY WE GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN I THINK THEY'D BE MORE APT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND UM, MAYOR FOR WHAT? COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ ALSO KIND OF, HE SENT SOME COMMENTS IN ADVANCE SINCE HE WAS NOT HERE AND HE ALSO MENTIONED A SIMILAR REQUEST TO SAY WOULD YOU WANT IT IN 7 5 0 5 2 KIND OF A SIMILAR, LET LET'S GIVE A LOCATION LIKE HERE WOULD BE ACTUAL LOCATION WITH THE, SO YOU WOULD KNOW, UH, WITH THE A, B AND C RESPONSE.
I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMSON AND TONY.
WERE YOU WAVING YOUR HAND? YES.
ADAMS FIRST AND THEN SHOT WILL NEXT.
AND ON THE SECOND PAGE, IF THIS IS ONLY GOING TO RESIDENCE THAT LIVE SOUTH OF I 27 5 0 5 0 7 5 0 5 1 PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE LISTED HERE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE NORTH OF I 20, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S JUST TARGETED MAILERS TO THE AREA SOUTH OF I 20, BUT IT'LL GO OUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
OH, SO IT'S GOING TO THE WHOLE CITY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN TARGETED MAILERS? BUT IT'S GOING TO THE, LET ME EXPLAIN.
UM, AND THE MARKETING WILL BE TARGETED TO EVERYONE.
WE'LL HAVE OTHER MARKETING MEDIUMS, UH, THROUGH SOCIAL WEB.
SO THE MAILER'S GOING TO THE, THE MAILER'S GOING SOUTH.
WHERE'S THE SURVEY GOING? THE SURVEY IS GOING TO BE POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE.
OH, SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO THE MAIL LIKE THE NOT A PRINTED VERSION.
IT'S IT'S HOSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE AND WE WILL BE PUSHING TRAFFIC TO THEIR WEBSITE.
WILL THE MAILER HAVE A QR CODE? YES MA'AM.
LOOK SOMETHING LIKE, OKAY, IS THAT GONNA BE AS EFFECTIVE AS HAVING IT BE A DIRECT MAIL THINGS TO SOMEONE'S HOME AND THEY FILL IT OUT AND SEND IT
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BACK? I DON'T KNOW, SEND IT BACK.I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE WOULD SCAN IT AND I DON'T LIKE TO FILL OUT FORMS ANYMORE.
I DO IT ON THE COMPUTER, I DO IT ON MY PHONE.
SAME THING WE HAVE WITH THE SURVEYS THAT WE HAVE GOING OUT IN ONE PARTICIPATES.
THEY'RE ALL GONNA SAY THEY DIDN'T GET IT.
SOME GONNA SAY THEY DIDN'T GET IT, BUT BE MAILED A HEARING, WELL MAIL ME SO WE'RE STUCK WITH THEM.
THIS IS WHAT WE GOTTA GO WITH.
MAYOR, HANG ON, JUST SAY LET'S GET THROUGH THE ONES I'M TRYING TO PLOT THROUGH.
ARE YOU FINISHED COUNCIL COUNCILOR ADAMS? WELL YOU CAN COME BACK.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ON YOUR PRESENTATION IS JUST A COMMUNITY PROJECT, BUT YOU'RE GATHERING INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE 10 YEAR PARK MASTER PLAN.
SO WHY ARE THE CONVERSATION OR THE QUESTIONS BEGINNING TO GET NARROWER AND NARROWER AS WE START TALKING ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT IN FITNESS, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR FITNESS AND WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR THE ELABORATE? YEP.
AND YOU'RE NOT LEAVING IT OPEN ENOUGH TO GIVE OTHER IDEAS? YES MA'AM.
SO HELP ME WITH, I MEAN HOW, WHAT, WHAT ROUTE ARE WE GOING? NO, YOU, YOU ARE ACCURATE.
SO WE DO START, WHAT ARE OUR ASK TO USE? YES MA'AM.
SO WE DO START BROAD AND WE START TO NARROW IT DOWN THERE AT THE VERY END.
AND AGAIN, WE CAN TAKE ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT'S BEING COLLECT SO THAT WE CAN USE IT IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO YEAH, SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS GONNA INFORM SOME OF THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IN THE FUTURE.
SOME OF THIS WORK IS GOING TO INFORM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON THE FUTURE ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.
AND SO IT, IT SERVES ON MULTIPLE OF PURPOSES.
I WOULD SAY FOR OUR INTENT IT'S PRIMARILY FOR THIS WHEREVER SITE WE DESIGNATE AND WHEREVER THE PROJECT IS DEFINED AS IS WHAT WE'LL USE IT FOR.
AND THEN WE'LL TURN THAT INFORMATION OVER TO THE CITY AND YOU CAN USE IT HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PREVIOUS SURVEY, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT WAS HARD TO REALLY EXTRAPOLATE REALLY WHAT WAS THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY TRY TO EXTRAPOLATE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS HAS THEIR MEETING IMPACT ON AND FOCUS ON THAT.
BUT WE WANT TO HEAR TO COLLECT THE VOICES OF ALL AS WELL.
BUT IT STILL SEEM LIKE THEY'RE CHOOSING A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT HAS FITNESS AREA AND A LIBRARY NOT NECESSARILY FROM IT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE ARE ANY OTHER OPTIONS AS YOU CONTINUE DRILLING DOWN IN THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
UH, COUNCILMAN, ARE THERE SOME SPECIFIC OPTIONS AS FAR AS A LIST THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT QING INTO? NO, THOSE THROUGH THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS.
YOU GONNA HAVE LISTING THINGS AT THE END, RIGHT? I'M SORRY? THEY CAN LIST THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF.
CAN YOU GO BACK? IT'S THE SAME LIST, IT JUST A TRAIL.
THIS ONE THAT'S FOR THE AREA, YOU KNOW LIKE 7 5, 5 0 MIGHT SAY.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HOW, HOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA DISTINGUISH THOUGH? I SAY OKAY, I'M 7 5, 7 5, I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT.
AND SO IS THAT WHERE I'M GONNA PUT THE OTHER NO, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY NEW AND ENTITIES IN MY AREA.
I DO WANNA SEE NEW AMENITIES IN MY AREA.
SO I DON'T SEE MY CHOICE OF ACTIVITY THERE.
BUT OURS, I MEAN I JUST THINK IT'S PRELOADED
I REALLY THINK IT'S STILL NARROWING DOWN TO IF IT'S BE AT THE LONG LIST.
YEAH, THE LONG I WOULD MADE IT A LOT SHORTER.
IT HAD A MORE OTHER BUT IT'S A LONG LIST OF THE SAME THING.
AS UH, COUNCILMAN ADAMS WAS SAYING THAT I DID JUST THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONE HERE.
ANYTHING LIKE A COMMUNITY THEATER, YOU KNOW, ARTS FACILITY.
SO I DO SEE WE COULD MAYBE ADD A FEW MORE BULLET POINTS TO BROADEN IT.
BUT WAIT, BUT UNDER THIS IT SAYS THE CAPTION SAYS FITNESS IS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
SO HOW DO YOU PUT, WELL THERE'S ANOTHER PAGE IN THERE.
WELL THIS, THIS ONE IS FOR RIGHT.
OKAY, SO THIS WOULD BE AN AMENITY.
I GUESS IT WOULD BE BELONG ON THAT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, ONE OF HIS COMMENTS WAS ABOUT UM, DO WE REALLY WANT AQUATICS IN, YOU KNOW, AS AN OPTION? SO MAYBE THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT OUT AND THEN INSERT SOME OTHER AMENITIES THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER AMENITIES THAT YOU, Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADD, BE HAPPY TO
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ADD MAYBE ADD LIKE TO THE CULTURAL RELATED YES MA'AM.ARTS AND THEATER AND THAT STUFF.
WELL, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, YOU KNOW, WE DID CONSIDER THAT AT THAT LOCATION TO HAVE A STAGE INSIDE THE GYM AND THEY, UH, PARENTS TALKED ABOUT THEY LIKE TO HAVE PLAYS FOR THE KIDS, THE STAGE FOR THE GYM.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT ROLLING UP THE BACK DOOR LIKE THEIR GARAGE DOOR AND THEY CAN SIT OUTSIDE ON THE LAWN AND WATCH THE KIDS PERFORM, BUT IF IT RAIN THEY JUST TURN BACK AROUND AND PERFORM OUTSIDE THE GYM.
SO SOME OF THE PARENTS ALREADY CONSIDERING THAT, TRYING TO USE IF THE FACILITY'S THERE OR WHEREVER TO TRY TO TRY TO HAVE THE UH, THE ARCH AND, AND OF COURSE IT'LL BE A SUMMARIZED SET PLAY.
WE'RE NOT DOING
WASN'T THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK? THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT NOISE.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THAT SMALL GROUP.
AND LIKE I SHARED WITH THEM AT THE MEETING, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE A PLAY AT 10 AND 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I DON'T SEE THE CITY WANTING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD AFTER WE, WE TALKED AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE THE PARTY PARTY LATE AT NIGHT.
IT'S FOR THE FOUR KIDS DOWN THERE TO HAVE A PLAY.
UH, AND THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE THAN WHEN THEY HAVE JAZZ IN A PARK DOWN THERE THAT JAZZ.
AND THEY SAID, WELL THIS, THEY SAID JAZZ IS VERY LOW LY.
WHEN THEY TOLD, THEY SAID TO US IN THE MEETING, JAZZ IS VERY LOW.
I DON'T SEE A LOT, I I CAN SEE IF YOU HAD AN EVENT AT NIGHT END AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A MAIN STREET FESTIVAL ACTIVITIES DOWN THERE.
IT'S REALLY JUST TRYING TO HAVE TO BRING, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER FOR EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I COULD DEFINITELY SEE, I AIN'T SHOWING MYSELF IN THE FOOT, BUT THAT'S FINE.
THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET ON THE ROAD ON THE MOON DOWN THERE ON A SATURDAY SO THAT, BECAUSE WE SEVEN BY ZERO DON'T ENGAGE WITH THE CITY AT ALL.
DID YOU WANT TO ADD THAT OPTION? SO WE'VE GOT CARDS, WE'VE GOT THEATER FARMERS MARKET, WE CAN ADD THE WHOLE KITCHEN SINK.
WHAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHETHER PEOPLE WHERE THEY WANT THIS REC CENTER, NOT, NOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY, IF THEY WANT IT AT ALL.
I THINK WHAT OUR STAFF HAS COME UP WITH IS, OKAY, SINCE WE'RE GOING OUT WITH THIS, LET'S DON'T GIVE 'EM A HUNDRED QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S TRY TO GATHER SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITHOUT BEING TOO LONG.
ALL OF THESE ARE GOOD POINTS, BUT WE'VE GOTTA REMEMBER WHAT I'M REALLY AFTER IS WHERE DO THEY WANT TO START? THINK ABOUT AND THEN WE CAN GATHER OTHER INFORMATION AS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
Y'ALL HAVE MADE GOOD POINTS ADDING SOME THINGS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET IT TOO LONG.
I SO MA MY MY THOUGHT IS IT'S SO NARROW NOW.
THEY, THE CHOICE IS DO YOU WANT A IT AND DO YOU WANT IT IN YOUR AREA? SO MAYBE WHEN IT IS NOTHING, SO WHAT YOU'LL GET OUT OF IT IS A YES NO.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING WE'RE AFTER THING.
I THINK WE, WE'LL GLE SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT RAY CAN USE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NECESSARY FOCUS, PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS.
RIGHT? WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY FOCUS.
SO WE'RE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS GO BACK TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE FOCUS, WE GONNA HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, ALL THAT'S GONNA COME OUT.
IF, IF IT PASSES, IF IT SAYS YES, WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY SAY NO, THEY SAY NO WE'RE DONE.
WELL FOR IN THAT LOCATION, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.
UH, THIS, WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION.
IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME TO KNOW WHAT THE INFORMATION'S GONNA BE.
IT MAY BE VERY CLOSE AND WE'LL HAVE TO FLIP UP A COIN OR SOMETHING.
I THINK WE WILL ALL LOVE IT TO BE 80 20
SO WE CAN, WE CAN GO, OH BOY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
YEAH, BUT LET'S, AS YOU SAID, LET'S DON'T GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS TWO PART YES OR NO AND FOR WANT SOME OTHER INFORMATION SIR.
SO COUNCILMAN BESSEY ADAMS CONTINUE.
WELL IF THIS IS YES OR NO, THEN YOU MAY WANT THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF HAPPEN.
WE WANT TO MAKE IT YEAH, REAL NARROW.
THAT'S WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO IDENTIFY THE SCOPE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE TAKING THEM DOWN A PATH OF WHEN I'M LISTENING TO YOU AND I'M SEEING THE OPTIONS.
YES MA'AM, DO YOU WANT A RED CENTER OR NOT? AND IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING THEN TAKE OUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF, DON'T EVEN TALK.
I WOULD TEND TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I, I WANT, I WANT TO KNOW SOME OTHER INFORMATION, MAYBE NOT AS MUCH OF SOME AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO
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THE EXPERTS TO TELL US HOW MUCH OF THAT.BUT I DO WANT SOME INFORMATION.
SO HOW YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, WELL YOU'RE HEARING US SAY WE WANT TO KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY WANT A REC CENTER OR NOT COMMUNITY PROJECT OR NOT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GATHER INFORMATION GIVEN FOR OUR PARK PROJECT.
HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT TYPE OF I THINK THIS DOESN'T, IT DOES.
IF IT SAYS NO, WE STILL GOT THE DATA FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK THIS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
I THINK THEY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN, SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, ON THESE QUESTIONS, SAY FOR THAT WE DO ADD OR WE DON'T ADD AND I THINK WE SHOULD ADD MAYBE SOME OF THE, THE ARCS COMPONENTS.
WE ADD THOSE TO THE LIST AND INSTEAD WE GET DOWN TO ONE OF THE AREA CODES AND WE GET 20 PEOPLE THAT ASK FOR THIS.
IT WASN'T ON THE PLATE BEFORE, BUT THAT GIVES US ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT WHEN WE START HAVING OUR TARGETED COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITHIN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS TO START DRILLING DOWN INTO THAT AND REALLY GETTING UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS I KEEP SAYING THE PULSE AND THE HEARTBEAT OF THE COMMUNITY IS WHAT'S THE HEARTBEAT AND WHAT'S THE PULSE OF THAT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GONNA HELP GUIDE THE PROJECT.
AND SO JUST, JUST AND ALSO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WE HAVEN'T PUT PEN TO PAPER ON ANYTHING RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW THIS IS ALL, I THOUGHT THE MAIL YESTERDAY,
WHERE DO YOU ARE YOU FINISH COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS FOR NOW? I, I, OKAY.
WELL I WAS GOING PROPOSE KIND A COMPROMISE BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, WHAT'S GOING ON? UH, AND THAT WOULD BE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAIN WHAT WANNA DO AND FIND OUT PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH.
SO WHY DON'T YOU SPLIT THIS INTO TWO THINGS.
WE DON'T PARTICULARLY NEED HELP WITH THIS 10 YEAR PLAN TODAY.
I THINK WE MIGHT BE BOGGING THIS DOWN INTO TOO MUCH ASKING PEOPLE.
OH, WHERE I, WHAT I THINK OF I WOULD USE INSTEAD OF WORKING WITH OFFICER
WHY DO I CARE THROUGH THIS TO HELP RAY LATER ON I THINK WE SHOULD DO A FULL CITYWIDE SURVEY OF SOME KIND THAT JUST FOCUSES ON THIS PLAN.
THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN OR WHERE, WHAT AND WHEN.
THIS OTHER, I THINK, AND I HOPE I DID JOHNSON, THIS FOCUS ON WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND NOT ELABORATE PRETTY MUCH LEAVE NORTH OF 20 IS REALLY, IS REALLY NOT GONNA BE, I'M NOT GONNA DRIVE DOWN USE IT NO MATTER WHAT YOU PUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THE REST OF IT AND, AND COME BACK TO DO THAT WITH RAY AT LATER DATE.
AND UH, THAT WAS MY QUESTIONS I WRITTEN DOWN.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET IT OUT? I HEARD HOW YOU GONNA GET IT OUT? ANSWER THAT FOR ME AND IT LIKE IT'S, I WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT AND THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY GIVE A WHAT Y'ALL DO
IT WOULD AFFECT ME EVERYTHING.
AND THEN WHAT THE OTHER ZIPS FOR DOING, THAT'S BACK TO THE SAME THING YOU FIVE AND THE LINE SHARE OF FIVE TWO OVERHEAD.
UH, SO THAT'S MY POINT IS MAYBE Y'ALL WE'LL REIN IT IN A LITTLE BIT AND THEN COME BACK WITH ANOTHER ONE LATER TO WORK ON HIS 10 YEAR PLAN WITH PARK FORCE.
I'LL SAY WE WILL DEFINITELY, I MEAN THERE'S GONNA BE AT LEAST A YEAR OF PARK MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE THING.
I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS IF WE'RE GONNA GO OUT TO DO A SURVEY, IF WE WANNA DO ONE THAT JUST SAYS, DO YOU WANT TO YES OR NO? WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
THAT'S ACCEPTABLE OF THE COUNCIL.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PREVENT US FROM HAVING TO DO TWO ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT IF IF THE ANSWER ENDS UP BEING YES AND, AND YOU ALL CHOOSE TO PROCEED, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.
WE STILL WORK TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION TO HELP KAI DRILL DOWN WHAT SPECIFIC AMENITIES WOULD BE IN IT.
BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY DO, I I I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY MEGAN, BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT, THIS IS NOT PUSH IT
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MORE.I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA FOR THAT.
UM, I MEAN MARKETING WISE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL THAT, BUT THEN WE OTHER PEOPLE GET IT.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN TITLE IT SOMETHING LIKE COMMUNITY PROJECT QUESTIONNAIRE FOR SOUTH GRAND PRAIRIE, SOMETHING THAT AS SOON AS THEY GLANCE AT IT, THEY WILL KNOW WHETHER THIS IS RELEVANT TO THEM.
SOMETHING WITH YOU, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA MAIL, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA MAIL IT TO THE PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH.
AND THEN THE REST OF LIKE, I, THE ONLY WAY I WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT WOULD BE I SEE IT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR FACEBOOK.
I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT OR FACEBOOK.
BUT THEN THERE WE GO, THEN YOU'LL GET MORE, YOU'LL GET MORE.
IT'S ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH FACEBOOK.
SO THEN I, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU'RE ASKING THE ZIP CODE BECAUSE YOU COULD EXTRAPOLATE THE FIVE OS AND FIVE ONES TO SAY NO, I DON'T WANT IT.
IT'S JUST BEING PEOPLE THAT MAYBE ARE AFRAID TO RAISE THEIR TAXES OR SOMETHING
SO, OKAY, UH, MAYOR PRO CLEMSON'S HAD HER HAND UP FOR A WHILE.
WE, WE'LL STILL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER PEOPLE.
I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET METHODICAL HERE A LITTLE BIT.
AND I'M GLAD THAT THE MAYOR THE OBJECTIVE OF THE SURVEY AND I CAN SEE WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE THE MOST OF.
WE'RE GONNA SURVEY PEOPLE, WE WANNA GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN THAT MIGHT APPLY TO OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
UM, UH, JUST A THOUGHT ON THE ZIP CODE.
7 5 0 5 OH IS MY, MY ZIP CODE.
IT'S ON THE TOTALLY NORTH END TOWN.
AND IF YOU, UH, ASK THEM DO THEY WANT SOMETHING OF TOWN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO READ WHAT THEY WRITE.
THEY THINK SOUTH'S GETTING EVERYTHING ANYWAY TO HEAR THAT.
SO I WOULD NOT LIKE TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD, DO YOU WANT TO COME THUMB DOWN SOUTH HEB HB ANYWAY, UH, BACK TO THE BASICS OF THIS SURVEY.
IF I'M GONNA TAKE A SURVEY, IF IT'S MORE THAN SEVEN QUESTIONS, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
AND IF IT'S GOT ALL OF THIS HUGE, UH, OPTIONS, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
IF IT, IF I HAVE BULLET POINTS, IT MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND UH, IF I CAN GO TO A FACEBOOK AND IT HAS A QR CODE OR A LINK I CAN GO TO, IT TAKES ME RIGHT TO THE SURVEY, IT MIGHT HAPPEN.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION MA'AM, FROM WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
NOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO READ THROUGH ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS OR ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
THEY WANT TO GET TO THE, GET THEIR VOTE IN AND THEY WANT TO GET IT INTO YOU WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TROUBLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND I THINK THE STAFF, UH, UH, CAN GET THIS BOILED DOWN TO BULLET POINTS TO WHERE IT COVERS.
AND IT COULD HAVE CULTURAL, IT COULD HAVE, I DON'T THINK I WANT TO ADD THE CULTURE TO IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT HOPEFULLY A CULTURAL CENTER SITE.
WELL, I IF YOU SAY MULTI OKAY MAYOR, YOU CAN SAY IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO.
I'M JUST SAYING THE POSSIBILITIES MULTIUSE.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME, UH, GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
THE, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD THOUGHTS.
UH, I TEND TO FEEL LIKE, I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS NORTH OF JULY 20, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF Y'ALL'S COMMENTS THERE.
IT IS GOING TO CLOUD THE, THE DATA WE GET WHEN WE'RE REALLY, IN MY OPINION, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.
ARE WE GONNA BUILD IT THERE OR THERE NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AT ALL.
AND SO I WOULD ALMOST NOT EVEN WANT TO PUT IT ON FACEBOOK MAILER, QR CODE MODEL, FACEBOOK MAILER, QR CODE.
THE QR CODE TAKES 'EM TO A PAGE TO FILL OUT A SURVEY THAT'S I CAN SEE WHERE QR CODE, I CAN PUT IT ON MY FACEBOOK.
YOU COULD, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT.
ALL OF YOU, WE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO KNOW? WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON WHERE THIS SUCKER GOES.
NOT WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN IT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS QUESTION THERE.
SO I THINK AFTER HEARING ALL Y'ALL
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FORGET ABOUT RAY, RAY THIS DOWN, MAYBE REMOVE SOME OF THIS STUFF AND, AND GO WITH A FIVE QUESTION HERE OR THERE.NOWHERE
MAIL IT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.
LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS BEING TELEVISED, BUT I LEARNED ONE THING.
DON'T ASK THE QUESTION UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER.
WE DO WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO WHERE I DO NOT REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS THEY WANT IN THERE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TOO BIG A PLACE THAT WE'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL HOW MUCH WE OPEN UP WHAT WE ASK FOR.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SO CAN WE HAVE 'EM TRIM IT DOWN, FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED.
IS THAT A, CAN I GET A CONSENSUS OUT OF THAT? YES.
THEY HAVE ABOUT WHY LIKE THE TWO GRAND PENINSULA AND MIGO SURVEY.
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WHAT'S GONNA COME.
RIGHT? SO IT IS, IT'S A CATCH 22 NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, IF WE ADD IT OR DON'T ADD IT.
SO BEGIN THE, THE RESIDENTS SAYING, WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT WHAT, WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND.
WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE MEETING ABOUT SHONDA.
SO IT IT IS AND CLARIFY WHEN THE SURVEY GOES OUT, IT'S BEING MAILED SOUTH OF 20, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO PUERTO RICAN NORTH IS 20, DOES A FLYER SAYING TAKE A SURVEY WITH ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT NOT DO YOU WANT, ARE WE MAILING ANYTHING NORTH OF 20? JUST OUR PIPELINE NEWSLETTER, WHICH WILL HAVE THE, THE INFORMATION, THE QR CODE.
BUT IF WE WANT TO, WE, IF, IF WE COULD LIMIT THE MAILER TO SOUTH OF 20 PERIOD, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
CAN WE GET A CONSISTENCY ON THAT? YES, I AGREE.
I WILL NOT POST IT ON FACEBOOK.
I WOULD CHALLENGE ALL OF US NOT POST IT ON FACEBOOK.
IF YOU SEE, IF YOU SEE IT ON FACEBOOK, GO IN THERE AND UNFRIEND THEM AND DELETE IT REAL QUICK.
NOW WHAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE FEEL LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HEAD? UM, I, I AGREED ABOUT JUST DOING THE MAILERS TO THE APPROPRIATE DISTRICTS FOR THE UH, CELL PHONE, UM, TEXT MESSAGING.
CAN WE TARGET THAT TO THOSE SPECIFIC OR SO DO A TEXT MESSAGE? WELL IT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS.
THAT BE A REAL I WOULD THE MAIL IN CASE IN CASE PEOPLE TOSS THE MAILER ONLY THE RIGHT ZIP CODES.
I DON'T MEAN CITYWIDE, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, UM, I AGREE MEGAN MENTIONING THE EXTRA QUESTIONS FOR NOT EVEN QUESTIONS.
THE BULLET POINTS THEY CAN CHECK PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO, IF THEY WANT IT, GO BACK ALL OVER AGAIN AND START IT FROM THE TOP.
EXPECTING PEOPLE TO DO ANOTHER QUESTIONNAIRE AND JUST, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE THERE ON, WOULDN'T THEIR FOCUS MEETING EXPECT CARE OF THAT THOUGH? THEY WOULD.
EVERYBODY'S NOT GONNA GO TO A FOCUS MEETING.
NO, BUT BUT THE ISSUE IS AT THE SAME TIME, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO SERVICE.
THE REASON THAT WE HAD THOSE MEETINGS, THOSE FOCUS MEETINGS LAST YEAR MM-HMM.
WAS TO ASK THEM, WHAT DID YOU WANT? AND PEOPLE GONNA TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT.
YEAH, WELL KEEP THAT FIRST QUESTION ASKED.
YOU WANTED AT SITE A OR SITE B OR NEITHER.
AND THEN LOOK FOR THE OTHER FOUR QUESTIONS, FEW QUESTIONS THAT ARE DEMOGRAPHIC BASED.
WHAT'S YOUR ZIP CODE? UH, SKIP THE ONE ABOUT WHAT AREA DO YOU LIVE IN? UH, I THINK THAT'S A NECESSARY.
YOUR AGE AND HOW MANY CHILDREN YOU HAVE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
I THINK THAT'S FIVE IS ALL YOU NEED.
LET'S STILL TRY TO GATHER INFORMATION FROM WHAT'S GOING DOWN.
CAN CAN I I THINK WE GET MORE RESULTS.
UM, SO WHEN WE COMPOSE THIS OVERALL SURVEY, SO WE, WE BELIEVE IN VERY TARGETED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND SO WHEN WE, WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND SO WE GO INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE SPECIFIC AREAS, WE'RE NOT ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS IN THESE SAME AREAS.
WE'RE RESPONDING TO WHAT THEY SAID IN THE OVERALL SURVEY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DRILLING DOWN, WE'RE DRILLING DOWN, WE'RE GOING DEEPER IN.
AND THAT'S HOW WE DO AUTHENTIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THE BIG VOICE, SO LET'S FIGURE OUT WHY YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID.
BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY CERTAIN THINGS AND THEY REALLY DON'T RATIONAL LINE.
SO WE'LL DO THE MILLER FIRST AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE TEXT MESSAGING.
AFTER THE RESULTS ARE OUT, YOU GET MORE DRILL DOWN, MORE INFORMATION TO GO DO THE SURVEY ON YOUR WEBSITE WITH THE TEXT MESSAGE.
ONE, DO YOU WANT IT AND WHERE YES OR NO, FIVE QUESTIONS.
IF THE ANSWER'S YES AND YOU ALL DECIDE TO PROCEED WITH THE SECOND SURVEY, THEN WE GO OUT AND DO THE, THE MORE.
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THIS IS A BIG DECISION.SO WE'RE SAYING FIVE QUESTIONS.
HOW MANY QUESTIONS NEED TO BE MISSED? IF THIS, IF THE INITIAL ATTENTION TO SAY YES OR NO, I THINK THE FIVE IS APPROPRIATE.
BUT FOR WHAT WE, OUR FOCUS WE NEED A LITTLE, I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL WERE DOING YEAH.
TO TRY TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION, BUT I THINK AFTER US DISCUSSING IT, WE'RE MORE FOCUSED ON HELP US SAY YES OR NO
UH, DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? UH, LET'S SUMMARIZE MAIL OR SOUND.
GOTTA GET IN BY TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
BUT YOU KNOW, PIPELINE, I I WILL, I WILL SAY THIS, NOT EVERYBODY WILL ANSWER THE SURVEY, BUT WITHOUT DATA, IT'S ONLY OPINIONS.
VERY FEW PEOPLE USE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.
I LOVE DRIVING BY UH, BETTY MACK LIBRARY.
THE PARKING LOT'S FULL, BUT THAT'S JUST A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY TINY PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION GOING THERE.
SO I DON'T MIND PEOPLE THROWING THIS IN THE TRASH.
I WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY I'M INTERESTED IN THIS AND GETTING RESULTS FROM THOSE INTERESTED.
'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO EVER UTILIZE THIS AND THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN, Y'ALL KNOW, LET'S DO FIVE SOUTH OF 20 GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.
THE QUESTION CAME UP THROUGH IT.
HOW DO YOU PREVENT, UH, ME COMPLET THE SURVEY 40 TIMES? AND WE DISCUSSED THAT THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THAN THE P-O-H-O-A VOTING FOR THE OFFICERS ONE HOME, ONE VOTE FOR A HOUSEHOLD.
SO HOW DO WE PREVENT THAT? WHERE I DON'T THINK WE CAN UM, WE CAN PREVENT IT BY MAYBE, UH, I IP ADDRESS, BUT MY GOODNESS, YOU CAN, YOU CAN VOTE YOU MY WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED, HEY, GO TO THE LIBRARY.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL GOOD POINT.
MAYBE WE SEND 'EM A SELF ENCLOSED ENVELOPE ALONG WITH IT.
LOOK, I I DON'T THINK WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
AMERICAN IDOL, YOU GET TO VOTE 25 TIMES PER DEVICE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY HOW WE PROBABLY GOT NUMBER TWO IN EPIC WATERS BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THE EMPLOYEES VOTING A HUNDRED PEOPLE TIMES.
YOU KNOW, I, I I THINK WE GOT, WE'VE GOT A START SOMEWHERE.
WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING AND, UH, I THINK WE JUST PUT ALL THEIR PLEASE ONE, ONE VOTE PER HOUSEHOLD AND GET ON DOWN THE ROAD AND TRY TRUST PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO RULE THE BALLOT BOX.
I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU USED CENTER LIBRARY OF THAT ONE
CAN WE MOVE ON? CAN CAN WE MOVE ON? THANK YOU ALL.
THANK, UH, NEXT, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL.
WE HAVE AN ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITY FOR CENTRAL OF DOWNTOWN.
IT IS A VERY SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY.
IT IS WITH THE TEXAS MONTHLY, AND CLAUDIA IS GOING TO BE LEADING US IN, IN A PRESENTATION OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE AND THE PROPOSAL FROM TEXAS MONTHLY.
WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED BY IT AND IT IS TRULY A VERY, VERY BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR GRANT CAREER.
SO WHERE YOU
SO, LIKE CLAUDIA SAID, WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CATAPULT GRAND PRAIRIE AS A TOP FIVE DESTINATION.
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AND, UM, THAT IS TO PARTNER WITH TEXAS MONTHLY.SOME OF THE JUST BRIEF, SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS OF MAR UH, PARTNERING WITH TEXAS MONTHLY.
OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL SERVE AS A HUGE MEGAPHONE TO ESTABLISH US AS A TOP DESTINATION.
UM, THERE WILL BE CURATED BEST IN CLASS EVENTS THAT IS ABLE, WILL, UH, SPEAK ON HERE IN JUST A MINUTE AND JUST THE ASSOCIATION WITH A POWERFUL TEXAS BRAND WITH TEXAS MONTHLY.
UM, TEXAS MONTHLY WAS FOUNDED IN 1973.
THIS IS THE NATIONAL MAGAZINE OF TEXAS.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY POWERFUL TEXAS BRAND THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH.
UM, TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER IS, UM, ALSO A WELL-KNOWN TEXAS NAME.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1972.
THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE IN TEXAS, YOU ALWAYS SEE BOB PHILLIPS ON TV AND HE IS, UH, TRAVELING THROUGH THE BACK ROADS OF TEXAS DOING, UM, TALKING ABOUT TEXAS AND TALKING ABOUT TEXAS PEOPLE.
AND SO WITH TEXAS MONTHLY AND TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER, UM, YOU KNOW, TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER HAS, IS THE LONGEST INDEPENDENTLY PRODUCED TV SHOW IN THE NATION.
BOTH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOW BOTH WITH, UH, TEXAS MONTHLY, SINCE TEXAS MONTHLY BOUGHT, UH, TCR, UM, ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE WON NUMEROUS AWARDS AND BOTH ARE COMMITTED TO TALKING ABOUT TEXAS AND TEXAS PEOPLE AND SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND SO WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY THERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STATS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ABOUT TO START THEIR 53RD SEASON.
THEY HAVE A NEW HOST LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME.
UM, THEY'RE IN 26 TEXAS MARKETS, UM, REACHING AN ANNUAL VISITOR VIEWING OF OVER 8 MILLION PEOPLE.
AND OF COURSE, THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UM, SOCIAL PROBLEM THING.
I'M THE CREATIVE PRODUCER FOR EPIC CENTRAL.
SO WHENEVER TEXAS MONTHLY CAME AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HOME FOR THE TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER, WE GOT VERY EXCITED.
TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTERS, THE LARGEST SINGLE DAY FESTIVAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS LAST YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 50,000 PEOPLE IN ONE DAY.
AS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AND WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT EPIC CENTRAL, ABOUT HOW THIS CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY, IT BECAME VERY APPARENT THAT EPIC CENTRAL IS NOT THE RIGHT SPOT LONG TERM.
WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO INTRODUCE THE TCR FESTIVAL TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE WOULD BRING THE TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER FESTIVAL TO GRAND PRAIRIE IN OCTOBER 19TH, 2024.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEDON LOPEZ.
THIS WOULD FACILITATE US IN MOVING THE ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL AND HAVING A SEPARATE TCR EXPERIENCE, WHICH WOULD BE VERY SMALL.
OUR, I SAY SMALL, ABOUT A HUNDRED, UH, VENDORS, UM, ENTERTAINMENT, BUT IT'S ALL LEADING TO 2025, WHERE THE TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER FESTIVAL WOULD HAVE ITS PERMANENT HOME IN TOWN IN DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE.
THIS IS A SEMINAL EVENT FOR THE CITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE NOTICED BY THE MEDIA AND WILL BE NOTICED BY THE FANS.
BUT TEXAS MONTHLY IS SO AWESOME BECAUSE THEY SAID, HEY, NOT ONLY IS THERE TCR, THERE'S ALSO THIS TACO FESTIVAL THAT WE'RE STARTING NOW.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT HATES TACOS?
EVERYBODY LOVES TACOS, BUT TEXAS MONTHLY HAS TAKEN IT A STEP FARTHER.
THEY'VE HIRED PAZAR LOT, WHO IS A JAMES BEARD AWARD-WINNING WRITER, WHO IS GOING TO PRODUCE AND, AND CHOOSE HIS FAVORITE TACO PLACES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEN THOSE THAT COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A NATIONAL NEWS STORY.
THIS IS THIS, AS BIG AS THE BARBECUE FESTIVAL IS IN LOCK PARK, TEXAS MONTHLY DOES AS WELL.
THIS TACO FESTIVAL, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO ECLIPSE WHAT THE BARBECUE FESTIVAL IS GOING TO DO.
AND THEN I MENTIONED THAT THEY DO THE BARBECUE FESTIVAL IN LA PARK, BUT THEY ALSO DO THESE GREAT, UH, MEETUP EVENTS.
OUR PIT STOPS, WE JUST DID ONE AT AVAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, HAD ABOUT FIVE OR 600 PEOPLE.
WE DID NO ADVERTISEMENT FOR IT AS A CITY, TEXAS MONTHLY, AND AVAS DID IT ALL.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO THE CITY.
THIS COULD FOCUS ON MULTIPLE BARBECUE RESTAURANTS.
THIS COULD ALSO FOCUS ON BARBECUE PLACES AROUND THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
UH, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS, IS A EVENTS, UH, EVENTS, NEW EVENTS, EXISTING EVENTS AND ADVERTISING.
I'M GONNA BRING AUDIO TO DISCUSS THE ADVERTISING.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE EXCLUSIVE TCR FESTIVAL, WE ALSO HAVE SOME MEDIA OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE TEXAS MONTHLY UMBRELLA.
SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THROUGH AIRTIME THROUGH THE TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER SHOW.
WE HAVE PRINT AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FORM OF ADS OR ADVERTORIALS, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH ADS AND EDITORIAL CONTENT.
WE ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BLOGS, SOCIAL MEDIA, WEB WITHIN THE TEXAS MONTHLY PRINT AND OTHER, UM, ADDED VALUE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, WHICH
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ARE ADDITIONAL TEXAS MONTHLY PRODUCTS.SO, UM, THOSE, THIS IS JUST A VERY HIGH LEVEL DESCRIPTION OF, UM, OF WHAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
AND NEXT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE COST.
SO THIS IS BROKEN DOWN BY FOUR FISCAL YEARS, AND UH, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS PAID FOR BY THE EPIC AND HOTEL MOTEL TAX FUNDS, NOT THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THERE IS AN OUT CLAUSE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025.
IF VERY CLEAR FOR ALL OF THIS.
UH, WHICH EPIC FUND QUARTER SENT OR THE OTHER? IT, IT'S, IT, IT PART, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
IT'S A TRANSFER FROM THE QUARTER SENT THE QUARTER SENT ESSENTIALLY INITIALLY DO WHAT? THE QUARTER SENT WILL FUND IT INITIALLY UNTIL ETHICS CENTRAL ITSELF COULD HOPEFULLY GENERATE IT NOW.
BUT IT SAYS IN THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX FUNDS? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO SOME OF IT FOR THE DOWNTOWN PORTION, IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, THE USE OF HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEND, SEND ANY OF THE QUARTER SENT DOWNTOWN.
SO HOW'S THOSE FIGURES DIVIDED UP BETWEEN THE TWO FINES? IS THE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE BASED ON WHERE IT'S GONNA BE LOCATED? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE BROKEN OUT YET.
ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING DONE, WE'LL BREAK IT OUT.
BUT THERE'S ENOUGH HOTEL MOTEL TAX YES.
THAT, UH, TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN'S PORTION OF THIS BILL? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BROKEN DOWN FROM FISCAL YEAR 24 THROUGH 27, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, RIGHT NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, OUR VERY SPECIAL GUEST WE HAVE WITH US TODAY.
AND HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF MR. SCOTT BROWN OF TEXAS MONTHLY PRESIDENT, CEO OF TEXAS MONTHLY.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M SCOTT BROWN.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS MONTHLY.
UH, WE ALSO OWN TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY ON BEHALF OF, OF, SORRY.
JUST WANNA SAY ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY AT OUR ORGANIZATION, UH, HOW THRILLED WE ARE WITH THE PROSPECT OF THIS PARTNERSHIP.
UM, AND LISTEN, WE HAVE TWO GOALS.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, AND THE, THE FIRST GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH GRAND PRAIRIE AT THE TOP EVENT DESTINATION.
AND THE SECOND GOAL IS TO HELP BUILD YOUR EVENT CALENDAR EVERY YEAR WITH AWESOME.
THAT'S THE, THE SUM OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, SO BOTH TEXAS MONTHLY AND TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER HAVE A 50 YEAR HISTORY OF CHRONICLING SEXES.
UM, AND WE HAVE A BIG AUDIENCE.
UH, COLLECTIVELY IT'S ABOUT 35 MILLION PEOPLE A MONTH.
UM, IT'S WITHOUT QUESTION, IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT MEDIA BUY IN TEXAS, NO DOUBT.
UM, AND THESE ARE ENGAGED PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO, WHO LOVE WHAT WE'RE COVERING, WHO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH, WITH US IN DEEPER WAYS.
AND SO EXPERIENCES AND EVENTS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
UM, LISTEN, TEXAS MONTHLY, IT'S, UM, I'M PROUD TO SAY IT'S, IT'S REALLY UP THERE WITH THE TIPPY, TIPPY TOP TIER OF, UM, OF PUBLICATIONS AND MEDIA COMPANIES.
UM, WE'VE WON 14 NATIONAL MAGAZINE AWARDS, WHICH IS OUR INDUSTRY'S, UM, VERSION OF THE OSCARS.
WE'VE BEEN NOMINATED BASICALLY FOR BEST PICTURE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE, UH, NO OTHER MAGAZINES.
ONE HAS MADE CITY OR REGIONAL AWARDS,
UM, WE REALLY ARE, I THINK, OPERATING, UM, AT A LEVEL THAT OTHERS AREN'T.
AND THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO OUR EVENTS.
SO WHEN WE DO AN EVENT, IT IS A PAGE COMING TO LIFE WHEN WE DO A TCR EVENT.
IT'S THAT SHOW BROUGHT TO LIFE AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT THAT.
UM, OTHERWISE THERE'S NO POINT IN THAT.
UM, AND SPEAKING OF TCR, WE HAVE A NEW HOST.
SO BOB AND KELLY ARE NO LONGER, UM, AT THE HELM OF TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER, BUT A REALLY FASCINATING, UH, YOUNG MAN, UM, IS OUT THERE.
UM, BUT HE'S OUT FILMING HIS FIRST SEASON RIGHT NOW.
AND SO HE'S RECORDED A LITTLE MESSAGE FOR YOU GUYS AND, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT REAL WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA.
YOU ALWAYS TESTED BEFORE AND ALWAYS.
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OKAY.WE, UH, THE NEXT HOST OF TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER, AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T MEET WITH Y'ALL TODAY IN PERSON AND IT'S IN LARGE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I'M JD ALTA, THE NEXT HOST OF TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER, AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T MEET WITH Y'ALL TODAY IN PERSON AND IT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE I'M REPORTING TO Y'ALL LIVE FROM THE BACK ROADS OF TEXAS WHERE I'M HARD AT WORK SHOOTING MY FIRST SEASON OF TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER.
NOW, ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT QUESTIONS I'VE GOTTEN SINCE TAKING OVER IS HOW MUCH OF THE SHOW IS GONNA BE CHANGING.
AND THE ANSWER IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
WE'RE STILL GONNA BE THE OPTIMISTIC, FUN-LOVING SHOW THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AND CONTINUE THE LONG TRADITION OF TELLING THE AMAZING STORIES OF ORDINARY TEXANS DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS.
ONE AREA WHERE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN ENERGY AND NEW IDEAS IS IN HOW WE CAN CONNECT FURTHER WITH OUR AUDIENCE.
BRINGING A NEW TCR FESTIVAL TO GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS IS THE WAY THAT WE THINK THAT WE CAN DO JUST THAT.
AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO INVITE OUR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FANS TO GRAND PRAIRIE SO THEY CAN SEE JUST WHAT MAKES YOUR CITY SO SPECIAL.
I KNOW I'LL BE MAKING A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS ON MY JOURNEY AND I CAN'T WAIT TO INVITE ALL OF THEM TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
THIS IS AN EXCITING NEW CHAPTER FOR TCR AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE BEING A PART OF THAT.
SO THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SO LET'S GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, IT IS THE TOTAL COST, UH, THREE AND A HALF YEARS, ABOUT $1.8 MILLION.
THERE ARE COST SAVINGS WITHIN THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY CAN DO BY THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LIKE OUR, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.
AND WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN ON OUR RECOVERY? HOW DO WE RETURN OUR INVESTMENT? WHAT, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET OFF THERE? ONE 20.
WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? WE ACTUALLY, WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS, WHERE THE CITY WOULD GET 15% OF SPONSORSHIPS FOR THE EVENTS.
THEN THERE'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND THERE'S THE HOTEL IMPACT.
WELL, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IF WE GET, WE POINT NOT 1.8 MILLION.
WE'RE THAT'S, DO WE, DO WE ACTUALLY DO WE KNOW WE'LL RECOUP 1.8 MILLION.
YEAH, AND YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT.
AND I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.
UM, IT, IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO QUANTIFY UNLESS YOU WENT OUT AND HAD SOMEBODY DO A ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY ON THOSE BIG EVENTS.
IN THE PAST I DIDN'T LIKE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE HOTELS TO PUT IN BEDS, PEOPLE TO GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
WE ARE FINALLY GIVING SOME HOTELS WHERE WE DO, UM, CAN SEE THAT.
BUT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE A $1.8 MILLION DROP TO THE BOTTOM LINE TO COVER THIS COST.
WHAT WE WILL SEE IS AN UPTICK IN EVERYTHING AROUND US THAT COULD, THAT WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO CAPTURE LIKE MORE BUSINESS TO BASS PRO, MORE RIDES AT ANDRETTI'S, MORE STAYS IN OUR HOTEL.
BUT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO QUANTIFY.
YES, WE DID RETURN $2 MILLION OVER TIME, I THINK.
UM, SO THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE ON ADVERTISING.
BOY, HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY THAT AD THAT YOU RAN? REALLY BROUGHT IT BACK.
BUT ALL COMPANIES DO ADVERTISING AND, AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO REALLY GIVE SERIOUS THOUGHT OF TO, BECAUSE OF HOW WELL THE BRAND IS AND WHAT IT WILL MEAN WHEN YOU GO OUT AND SAY GRAND PRAIRIE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REALIZE THIS, BUT THERE'S NO OTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT CAN SAY THEY HAVE AN IDEA.
BASS PRO ANDRES AND A TOP COFFEE, NO OTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THROW IN BOULDER, EPIC WATERS CHICKEN AND PICKLE.
THIS, I THINK IT HELPS US BECOME A STAYCATION CAPITAL.
BUT TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER SAY WHY WE MADE $2 MILLION OFF THAT $1.8 MILLION INVESTMENT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
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UH, WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS, ARE WE READY AND DO WE HAVE ENOUGH HERE THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THIS? UH, REDS WILL OPEN UP SOON, UH, SERIOUS EATS, DIPPY ACHES, AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THOSE AND THEN SOME OTHER THINGS ARE OPENING UP TOP OFF NOT UNTIL THE END OF NEXT YEAR.FORTUNATELY WE DO HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE, ESPECIALLY FUNDED SELF-FUNDED FROM THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX BECAUSE THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY INCREASES THAT.
THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT QUESTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTION, THEN I'LL GO ON THIS.
SO I SEE, UM, CHIEF CR FESTIVAL 25, 20 26, UH, A NEW HOME.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE JUST A ONE OFF.
IT WOULD BE A GRAND PRINTER EVERY YEAR.
THE FESTIVAL, I MEAN, IT, IT'S A HUGE ASSET FOR MONTHLY FESTIVAL ITSELF.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO FIND A LONG TERM HOME FOR IT.
THE, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTEMPLATES, YOU KNOW, PARTS, FISCAL YEARS.
BUT, BUT DO WE WANT A LONG EVERGREEN RELATIONSHIP? OF COURSE.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.
UM, WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE OF THE THE MAIN STREET CONSTRUCTION? WE WON'T BE COMPLETE ON MAIN STREET UNTIL THE END OF 2028.
AND WHEN, WHEN WILL WE START? IT STARTED WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THE, WALTER STARTED WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING DOWN THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS RURAL CONSTRUCTION, THE FIRST ONE, PROBABLY THE ROUNDABOUT DOWN ON OUR EASTERN EDGE, WE'RE OPEN TO LET THAT CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME THIS FALL.
BUT REMEMBER IT AIN'T GONNA BE DONE UNTIL 2028.
UM, MAIN STREET FEST I DON'T THINK WILL BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO MAIN STREET FEST AND WE MAY HAVE MORE PARKING BECAUSE THE STREET IN FRONT OF IT MAY BE TORN UP, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'LL MEET 2028.
UH, WALTER, HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU? I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED UNTIL WE ACTUALLY START BREAKING GROUND AND WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE AND I CAN GIVE YOU REAL GOOD 'CAUSE WE GOT EVERYBODY'S UNDER CONTRACT.
SO WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN? UM, ROUNDABOUT, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION THIS FALL, UH, ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE'RE HOPING TO TAKE, SO LET'S JUST TAKE THAT.
IF WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION THIS FALL, YOU'LL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. OKAY, SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO.
SO THIS YEAR IN OCTOBER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MINI PCR TESTS, BUT THE BIGGER ONE IS GONNA BE IN 25, 26, WHICH I FEEL LIKE COULD CONFLICT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION IF IT'S GONNA ON MAIN STREET.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, ALTERNATE PLAN STAFF WITH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON Y'ALL'S PLAN TO CONTINUE HAVING MAIN STREET FEST AT THE SAME LOCATION? WE WERE JUST GOING TO GET 'EM THERE TO ALTERNATE ROUTES.
SEE, BECAUSE THIS, VISUALIZE THIS, OUR DREAM WILL BE, LET'S SAY IT'S COMPLETED IN 2028.
FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, OUR VISION IS MAIN STREET WILL BE CLOSED DURING MAIN STREET TESTING.
SO OUR VISION IS IT'S NOT GONNA HOLD TRAFFIC ANYWAY 'CAUSE WE WANT TO TAKE IT OVER AND CLOSE IT.
SO WE'LL GET PEOPLE, IT WILL NOT AFFECT WHERE WE PUT THE TENT, THE STAGE AND ALL THAT.
WE'LL, JUST IN PARKING, THE PARKING WILL STILL BE ACCESSIBLE AND IN THE FUTURE, AFTER IT'S OPEN, WE'LL BE CLOSING MAIN STREET ANYWAY.
SO IT, IT MAY BE PARTIALLY CLOSED DURING THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK WOULD'VE, I SURE DON'T THINK IT, UH, IMPACT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME HERE A HEADLINER ON MAIN STREET FEST JUST BECAUSE MAIN STREET'S TORN UP AND IF WE DO, IF IT IS TORN UP, REMEMBER WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SHUTTLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO WHEN YOU HAVE THESE LARGER FESTIVALS.
WE DON'T DO MUCH PARKING ON MAIN STREET ANYWAY.
I WAS ALSO THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF THE OTHER ACTIVITY THAT MAYBE HAPPENING IN THE AREA, UM, THE POSSIBLE BUSINESSES, THE HUBS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.
SEE THAT'S A SEPARATE IN MY MIND, I CAUTION, I MET WITH SOMEBODY THAT BOUGHT A BUILDING ON MAIN STREET, THE OTHER, NO, BEEN THREE MONTHS AGO.
DAUGHTER, FATHER, I WAS VERY BLUNT WITH THEM.
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MET 'EM AT MOSS COFFEE AND I SAID WALTER, GIVE 'EM THE TIMELINE.I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GO IN AND SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS UPGRADING THEIR BUILDING.
AND THEN THE DAY THAT THEY OPEN UP IS WHEN WE HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS TORN DOWN.
I'LL BE WHAT BUSINESSES WILL BE AFFECTED ON MAIN STREET DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION.
OKAY, SO WHERE I WAS TRYING TO, THE BUSINESSES WILL BE FESTIVALS WON'T BECAUSE FESTIVAL WAS A DESTINATION, NOT A WALK TO AND SHOP.
I WAS LOOKING AT HOW THE FESTIVAL WAS LAID OUT IN YOUR, UM, VIDEO.
AND SO THEY WERE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND WALKING THROUGH IT LOOKED LIKE 10 SQUARE ALONG THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE MAIN FLOW OF TRAFFIC WAS IN THE STREET.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED AND CONCERN WE'LL HAVE TO WORK CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE.
HOW, WHAT IS THE ALTERNATE PLAN? BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT THE FESTIVAL.
WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE ALTERNATE PLAN.
OH, WELL ONE THING THAT I WOULD JUST OFFER IS THAT LOCKHART WITH THE BARBECUE FESTIVAL AND THAT HAPPENS RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN THERE, THERE IS NO DRIVING THROUGH THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
YOU DON'T WANNA DRIVE
I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST LOOKING AT YOUR FILM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, I THINK CHERYL HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PARK 'EM OFF SIDE, UH, AND SHOVEL THEM.
I THINK WHERE WE TORE DOWN THE MOTEL.
IF, IF IF IT IS DRY WE CAN PARK AND SHOVEL 'EM FROM THERE.
UM, IF YOU GO TO BIG EVENTS ANYWHERE AROUND YOU PARK AND WALK, WE'LL PARK AND SHUTTLE, WELL NOT ALTERNATE, BE LOST PARK IF WE NEED ANOTHER SPOT AND MY PARK, YOU WOULD PARK PARTNER PARK.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT YOU, YOU WERE ASKING HOW WE MOVE, MOVE PEOPLE AND ALSO THE NICE THING IS, IS AS WE GO OUT, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH MAY STREET FEST, WE CAN RESTRUCTURE WHERE THINGS NEED TO BE.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD IT SET A CERTAIN WAY, THEY HAD SET IN A CERTAIN WAY BASED ON THE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH ROOM DOWNTOWN YOU'VE BEEN VERY CREATIVE.
I KNOW THESE ARE REALLY SMART PEOPLE
SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, UM, JUST TO ADDRESS, UM, KIRK, WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE REVENUE.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHY PAGE 13, THERE'S A LITTLE MONEY COMING IN, JUST THE 15% OF THE, UM, SPONSORSHIP.
SO NOT A LOTT QUALIFY IT OF ATTENTION THAT WE THE CITY, BUT THERE SOME REVENUE COMING.
HOPE HOTEL STAYS SHOULD GO NOW, UH, COUNCILMAN SHOT AND MAYOR PRO 10 WERE, WERE Y'ALL AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF, IS THAT AS DETECTIVE? YEAH, YEAH.
NO, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE THING WAS GONNA BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT I AGREE THAT, THAT IT'S A BIG AREA AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR US TO GET CREATIVE.
I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC CART ON TRAFFIC.
PEOPLE WE CAN USE MAIN STREET TORN UP.
SO YOU'RE WALKING OFF PEOPLE TRAFFIC FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER ALSO, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE VEST HELP THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AT ALL LIKE THOSE NOW.
WELL FOR THAT'D HAVE TO BE SOMETHING YOU'LL NEED TO COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN CAN ACTUALLY GET ACROSS THE STREET PLACES, CROSSING, CROSSING THE STREET THERE, YOU KNOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S TIMING OF WHEN THEY CARRY WHAT UP? THEY TEAR WHAT UP? CORRECT.
AND THE THE OTHER THING I THINK IS GREAT AND IF, IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF Y'ALL TO TAKE A MERGE SIDE, YOU OF THE AREA BECAUSE THE FRONT OF THE CITY HALL CAMPUS ISN'T THE ONLY OPEN AREA.
A LOT OF OPEN AREA DOWNTOWN AREA COULD BE USED AND GET AWAY FROM THAT CONSTRUCTION.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT COULD BE, WELL THERE'S JUST A LOT OF AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE.
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THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU MR. PHILLIPS FOR BRINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH YOUR TEXAS MONTHLY.
WHAT A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE VISION THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH A CITY THAT IS A WONDERFUL CITY AS WELL.
AND I LOVE IT WHEN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE PARTNERS THAT ARE EXCELLENT LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL, THAT'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR OUR CITY.
AND UH, GOING BACK TO THE 1.8 MILLION, AS I UNDERSTOOD, THAT'S OVER FOUR YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S THE TOTAL COST OVER AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT.
WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT? CHERYL? MEGAN, WHAT WAS IT? IT WAS ACTUALLY AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF CLA OKAY.
SEPTEMBER 30TH, SEPTEMBER, 2020.
I MEAN, SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET OUT NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET OUT, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE AN OUT CLAUSE.
I THINK IT'S A FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY AND I'M, UH, REALLY, UH, HOPEFUL THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THIS AND WE HAVE A FABULOUS, UM, STAFF TO, THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH AS WELL TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND WE PAY BIG BUCKS TO GET MARKETING OF OUR CITY OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STATE, THE CITY, THE METROFLEX.
AND THIS WOULD BE A FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME FUN EVENTS TOO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE LIKE AN ITEMIZED, UH, COST PER EVENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND 26.
THERE'S, THERE, IT'S 86,000 IS THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY IS COMMITTING TO THE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS, BUT THAT CAN BE OFFSET.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UTILIZING OUR SL TWO 60, THE STAGE THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S AN EIGHT TO $10,000 OFF RIGHT THERE.
UH, IF WE WERE TO, UH, PROVIDE FIRE OR POLICE SUPPORT FOR THIS AND NOT CHARGE TEXAS MONTHLY, DO IT THE WAY WE DO MAIN STREET, THERE'S ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN TAKE THOSE COSTS OUT.
WHAT, WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IS THIS 1.8 MILLION IS NOT FOR EVENTS.
IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT FOR EVENTS.
THE LARGE PORTION IS ON THE ADVERTISING, BUT THE EVENTS ARE HOW GRAND PRAIRIE GETS THE NATIONAL GROUP.
YOU WANT LEON BRIDGES HERE, YOU WANT CHARLIE COOK JR.
THAT'S HOW YOU GET IT, IS THROUGH TEXAS MONTHLY, THROUGH THEM BOOKING THEIR ENTERTAINMENT AND THE ADVERTISING WILL SUPPORT THE EVENTS THAT THAT, THAT BRINGS UP A GREAT IDEA.
CLAIM FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, WE DON'T DO THIS.
WE'RE STILL SPENDING MONEY ON ADVERTISING.
HOW MUCH, WHAT'S OUR BUDGET FOR ADVERTISING WITHOUT THIS? SO FOR TOURISM IT'S 4 25, 420 5,000 LIVE.
IT'S ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
SO WILL THIS BE IN ADDITION TO THAT? SOMEWHAT.
BUT MAYBE WE CAN, THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITION.
TRIM DOWN SOME OF THAT BECAUSE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SO THAT'S CORRECT.
I WOULD EXPECT WE MAY NOT NEED TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS ON THOSE TWO THINGS IF WE'RE SPENDING A MILLION, YOU KNOW, HEAR ME.
SO IT MAY KIND OF ALMOST BE SELF-FUNDED.
I'M NOT GONNA WANT IT TO NET OUT THE SAME.
I WANT US TO INCREASE OUR MARKETING BUT NOT NECESSARILY DOUBLE IT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO STAFF, THAT'S A, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO WEIGH, TO WEIGH IN.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT BUT MAYBE Y Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, YES, YES.
UM, SIR, HISTORICALLY, WHERE HAS THIS TEXAS COUNTRY REPORTER THAT TAKE PLACE WA AND I READ THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING TO STILL DO THEIR OWN TYPE OF FESTIVAL AND I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE DO HAVE THIS IN THE FALL, WHICH I LIKE THE IDEA, WE'RE GONNA BE COMPETING WITH THEIR HISTORIC PEOPLE THAT HISTORICALLY WENT TO THAT COUNTRY FESTIVAL, I THINK WAXAHATCHEE, GRAND PRAIRIE, HOW, HOW CAN WE BEAT THEM? WELL I THINK THAT THE, WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BEST DRIVER TO THAT, UM, TO, TO THE T COUNTRY REPORTER FESTIVAL, UM, AND WHICH HAS BEEN UNTIL NOW NO LONGER EXISTS FOR ANYMORE THE TELEVISION SHOW.
AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE ADVERTISING, IT'S JB THE HOST IN THE SHOW USED TO BE BOB KELLY SAYING, COME TO OUR EVENT, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE SHOW ITSELF.
THAT IS WHAT DRIVES TRAFFIC TO IT.
AND SO WE TURNED THAT IN THE DIRECTION OF GRAND PRAIRIE AS PART OF THE THEY'RE NOT, BECAUSE THEY ALSO, IT IS BEING HELD AT WALKS AT YOU THIS WEEKEND.
BUT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THIS, I THINK, I THINK BOTH WILL HAPPEN.
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BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.BUT WITH THAT, THE DRIVER, THEY WILL, WILL GET OUR SHARE, BUT MAYBE SINCE THIS IS A MINI EVENT, WE CAN COMPROMISE ON THE PRICE FOR IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE PRICE FOR THE EVENTS THEMSELVES ARE INCREDIBLY REASONABLE.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE, AS WE HEARD THOSE WERE THE MEDIA FOCUSES IS WHAT THE BIG DRIVER COST IS.
BUT THE COST PER EVENT IS 86,000.
WITHOUT THE, THE SUBSIDIZING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO FOR THE CITY.
I'M SAYING IF WE'RE CHARGING 86,000 FOR A MINI AND A FULL EVENT, I DON'T SEE THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO THIS EVENT, THIS MINI TCR FOR OCTOBER WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE WAXAHATCHEE FESTIVAL
OURS WOULD BE ON THE 19TH THERE, ON THE 26TH AND GO BOTH PLACES.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT MAKES THIS MINI, BECAUSE ACTUALLY ALL THE EVENTS WE'VE HAD THERE, NOTHING'S BEEN FULLY ACTIVATED.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY PASS EVEN MORE PEOPLE.
SO MINI FROM THEIR STANDPOINT, TYPICALLY TCR WOULD BRING ABOUT 150 TO 160 VENDORS.
UH, FOR THIS MINI FESTIVAL WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 75 TO, SO IT'S THE LIST OF VENDORS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER VENDOR.
BUT THEN THE OTHER PIECES THAT YOU ALSO HAVE A LARGE STAGE AND YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE MULTIPLE STAGES.
YOU MAY HAVE MORE ACTIVATIONS THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE AT EPIC CENTRAL.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO EPIC CENTRAL IS THAT OUR MAX CAPACITY FOR A FESTIVAL IS ABOUT 6,000 TOTAL PEOPLE.
BECAUSE THEN WE START HAVING PARKING ISSUES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO KEEP THE TC WAS TO HAVE IT AS A TCR EXPERIENCE AND THEN FOR, FOR US IN OCTOBER TO ALREADY BE ANNOUNCING, HEY, IN THE SPRING OF 25 WE HAVE THE NASA, WE'VE GOT THIS FULL FESTIVAL COMING OUT.
SO THE FULL EXPRESSION OF THE FESTIVAL IS ALL OF THE VENDORS THAT YOU'VE SEEN ON THE TELEVISION SHOW THROUGHOUT THE SEASON, SOME SPECIAL SPONSORS, UM, AND THEN SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE THAT IN THE SMALLER PIECE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING EVENT, UH, TO NOT ONLY GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT THEN AT THE END OF THAT SEASON THAT AT THE, AT THE END OF THE, UH, SEASON, THAT'S WHERE THE PARTY HAPPENS.
THE TCR FESTIVAL, THE BIG PUN, DOES THAT EXPLAIN THE MANY? IT'S BASICALLY AN NOT CHANGE TO PROMOTE THE BIGGER THING, UM, THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
SO THAT OF SEPTEMBER FOR OUR NEW FESTIVAL, IT WILL BE OCTOBER 19TH AND THEN WE HAD TWO DAYS BEFORE.
SO WE'RE DOING, WE COULD, WE COULD, WE ABSOLUTELY COULD GO TO TWO DAYS OR HAVE ONE DAY OF A TCR FESTIVAL OR I'M SURE TCRS VENDORS ARE OUT THERE.
THEY PROBABLY BE HAPPY FOR TWO DAYS.
BUT WE, WE COULD GO THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
THE 6,000 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DOUBLE THAT MAYBE EACH DAY.
AND THEN, UH, COUNCILMAN
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO PAY THE SAME PRICE FOR THE FULL EVENT FOR THE, WE'LL KNOCK OFF $500
WE DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, COUNCILOR MAYOR JOHNSON, UM, WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT IT'S NOT $1.8 MILLION.
AND IF THE STAFF CAN JUST LOOK AT THE INDIRECT COST OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO THIS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE TRUE COST.
WHETHER WE ARE PAYING THEM DIRECTLY 1.8 MILLION AND WE'RE SUBSIDIZING, PROVIDING DISCOUNTED, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT FOR THESE OTHER COSTS, IT'LL GIVE US A TRUE COST OF WHAT DID IT ACTUALLY COST US.
AND THEN OVER TIME WE CAN LOOK AT FIVE YEARS, SIX, EIGHT YEARS OF DATA, HOW THAT CAME INTO PLAY.
THAT IT INCREASED OUR SALES TAX REVENUES TO LOOK BACK ON.
BECAUSE 1.8 MILLION SOUNDS TO TO ME LIKE 4 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE, THERE, THERE IS NOTHING OVER 1.8 MILLION BECAUSE ALL OF THE ISSUES, IF WE ARE PROVIDING THE POLICE SERVICES OVERTIME, THAT DECREASES THE BILL.
SIR, SO SO YOU'RE SAYING THE 1.8, WHATEVER, I MISUNDERSTOOD IT, 1.8 MILLION IF, IF WE'RE PROVIDING POLICE SERVICES, IT COMES OFF, IT COMES OFF OF THAT 1.8 MILLION.
THAT'S NOT HOW I UNDERSTOOD THAT MISSION.
YOU WERE SAYING TO LOWER THE COST WE CAN PROVIDE OUR OWN SERVICES.
THAT'S WHAT TO LOWER THE COST.
SO THAT LOWERS THE COST COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THIS $1.8 MILLION IS THE MAXIMUM THIS WILL COST US NO MATTER WHAT.
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BUT WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS JOHN COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PUT IT VERY, THE QUESTION VERY SUCCINCTLY AND Y'ALL ANSWERED IT.LOOKING AT THE BUDGET IMPACT AND UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
SO OUR FISCAL YEAR IS OCTOBER 9TH.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET IMPACT BY FISCAL YEAR, WHAT THINK BEEN THIS YEAR THAT IT'S THE MEDIA.
OH THAT'S BASICALLY JUST MEDIA BUY THAT WILL SUPPORT START GENERATING INTEREST FOR THE
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING IS BECOMING A ONE OF THE PREMIER SPONSORS OF THE TELEVISION SHOW, WHICH THE NEW SEASON STARTS RUNNING IN JUST A FEW.
AND REMEMBER, NONE OF THIS COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, IT SHOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON BOTH THE QUARTER CENTER AND THE REVENUE.
WE FLOATED A $75 MILLION BOND PACKAGE THAT IS UNDERWRITTEN BY THE GENERAL FUND.
CHERYL, ALL THE, ALL Y'ALL MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY.
THE SECOND $75 MILLION BOND PACKAGE IS UNDERWRITTEN BY THE GENERAL OF DEFENSE.
BUT OUR ANTICIPATION WAS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE ABLE TO FUND COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PROCEEDS FROM EPIC CENTRAL, NOT THE QUARTER SENT, BUT EPIC CENTRAL GENERATED REVENUES.
OVER TIME, OVER TIME, OVER TIME.
AND MAYBE NOT THE FIRST YEAR, BUT OVER TIME AND ESPECIALLY AFTER THE 6% SALES TAX KICKBACK FROM THE STATE COMES IN.
ALL OF US WOULD AGREE THAT THIS WILL HELP FUND THAT BECAUSE EVERY, EVERY EXTRA DOLLAR.
SO THIS SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO BE FUNDED BY THOSE TWO.
ENTITIES TWO FUNDING SOURCES, NOT THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION QUESTION AND THE FINANCING QUESTION ABOUT IT, I'M SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STATE.
YOU MENTIONED THE 6,000 CAPACITY THAT'S SOLELY BASED ON PARKING AND NOT BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE COULD FIT SOLELY.
WELL, AND THAT'S 6,000 ON SITE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKING.
WE JUST, IT IT, THAT IS MY QUESTION.
WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR MORE IF WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR MORE PEOPLE OR MORE PARKING FOR MORE PEOPLE IF WE DO SHOW THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.
SO THEN IT IS IF WE, IF WE FORGET IF, IF WE GET PEOPLE THERE, HOW MANY CAN WE HOLD IT EVERY CENTER AT ONE TIME SEPARATE FROM PARKING 6,000.
I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.
NOW, 6,000 NO MATTER, FORGET ABOUT PARKING.
HOW MANY CAN WE FIT THERE IF THAT 10,000 AND YOU ON THE GRAND LAWN.
OKAY, 10 FOLKS ACROSS EPIC CENTRAL DO WHAT? ACROSS EPIC, CENTRAL, THE LAW.
UM, SEE, UH, THANKS FOR TAKING CARE OF MY PROBLEM TODAY.
UH, AND REALLY THANKS YOU UH, WASN'T ME BUT THE CITIZEN NEEDED.
UH, SO 10,000, WILL WE EVER GET 10,000 THERE WITH THE CONCURRENT PARKING? PROBABLY NOT.
BUT EVEN IF WE ADD MORE MULTI-LEVEL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GONNA HAVE PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, I'LL LEAVE.
I THINK A REASONABLE NUMBER TO EXPECT IS SIX TO 7,000.
UH, AND WE HAVE TO USE SHUTTLES.
REMEMBER WE SHUTTLE PEOPLE FROM DEBI YEARS AGO FOR THE BUTTERFLY EVENT 'CAUSE IT WAS SO PACKED.
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BUILD ENOUGH PARKING.I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO AFFORD TO BUILD ENOUGH PARKING TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA WANT 10,000 PEOPLE THERE.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MAKE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS TO GET 'EM THERE.
SO WHEN WE'RE AT THE DOCK, UM, ONE OF MY, UH, THOUGHTS, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS FESTIVAL TODAY AS WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT IN THE TWO DAYS.
UM, THAT IS NOT STATED AS SUCH IN THE PACKET.
SO WHEN A MOTION IS MADE WITH ALL, WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT US TO DO FOR THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL WORK OUT? YES SIR.
THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS A PROGRAMMING THING.
SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT MYSELF AND TERRELL CAN AND TEXT MONDAY THAT WE WOULD MAKE THIS THE MOTION THAT WE WERE DOING.
NO, IT'S JUST ACTUALLY THAT'S INTO THE WEEDS ON WHERE Y'ALL PUT IT.
AND THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD CONSENSUS TO DO THIS.
DO WE GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT ON CONSENT? OKAY.
MAYOR PRO TIM, IT'S ON CONSENT.
BUT WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE TOBUT AGENDA REVIEW.
SO THIS MAYOR BEST IS GOING TWO DAYS.
WHAT, WHAT ZANE WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO AS A TWO DAY? THE ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL WILL BE TWO DAYS AND WE WILL COME BACK TO TCR AND APPROACH THEM ABOUT KEEPING THE TCR EXPERIENCE THERE FOR TWO DAYS.
I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
WAS THAT YOUR REQUEST, JACQUELINE? I THOUGHT IT WAS.
THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY MY REQUEST.
YOU GOT THE REQUEST VENDOR'S ALREADY THERE.
I I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE, WE CAN ABSO THE ARTS AND MUSIC WILL ABSOLUTELY MEET TWO DATES.
WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT TCR.
YEAH, I MEAN, I TOTALLY HEAR YOU.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ABSOLUTELY DOABLE.
I, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, LIKE I NEED TO TALK WITH THE TEAM ABOUT LIKE, OKAY, WHAT IS THE IMPACT IN TERMS OF LIKE OUR ABILITY TO KEEP THE VENDORS THERE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SHOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
BUT I DON'T LY HEAR WHAT THE GOAL IS.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, IN THE MOTION.
I, I WOULD NOT WANT THAT ONE EXTRA DAY TO BE A DEAL BREAKER.
YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING DO TWO, TWO DAYS FOR THAT EVENT AND THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON THE TWO DAYS FOR THEIR IT SOUNDS LIKE IT.
AND I THINK ONCE THEY SEE THE DATA, THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
AND DO YOU GUYS ADVERTISE FOR YOUR OWN VENDORS AND ARTISANS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD STILL BE DOING OR? SO IT'S A, IT'S TYPICALLY HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN SHARED RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WE RECRUIT, UH, ARTISANS THAT HAVE BEEN FEATURED IN THE TEXAS COUNTRY REPORT OF THE SHOW.
AND ALSO WE'RE LAYERING IN ARGUMENTS THAT WE AS WELL JUST TO GET LIKE A REALLY INTERESTING GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEN THE CITY TENDS TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, ARTISANS THAT THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT.
I THINK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD, YOU KNOW, KNOW CRISSCROSS IN THE STATE, FINDING THE BEST.
THAT WOULD BE REALLY FANTASTIC TO BRING THEM OUT.
COUNCIL, WE HAVE ON THE CONSENTS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE 3 27 BILL'S TRYING TO DISTRACT US.
DO WE HAVE ANY, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM THREE FROM 3 27? OKAY.
25, 26, 27 WILL HANDLE INDIVIDUALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
LET'S TRY TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS WE CAN.
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO EAT AND GET THERE BY SIX 30, BUT LET'S NOT LINGER TOO LONG.
WHILE STILL ON THE TWO, TWO OF THE H HAVE THE CITY GOING DO I DON'T THINK YES SIR.
WE HAVE WE THAT IS OR ARE WE ARE PUTTING IT AS ONE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES TO TRY TO IT UP.
WE GOOD? WE'RE GONNA RECESS FOR A LITTLE BITE TO EAT AND RECONVENE OUT THERE WHEN I GET.