* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. STUFF. SO IF [00:00:01] ANYBODY WAS WATCHING THAT, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO STAFF BRIEFING. I'M SORRY. YOU GONNA BREATHE IN. WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF JUNE 17TH, 2024. I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THE STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 5:41 PM THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I SAY YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE, JUST LIKE THIS. BARRY SANDIS. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. ERIC ADEEN. HERE. DAVID ACHE. HERE. STACY WHITE. HERE. TIMOTHY OPPO. HERE. ANTHONY LANGSTON. HERE, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND CAN PROCEED WITH OUR MEETING. UH, COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE WE SPEAK SO THAT WE RECORD WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO HEAR YOU TALKING. UH, STAFF WILL PRESENT THE CASES. SALVADOR, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, SIR. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THE FIRST ITEM FOR OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT FOR THE BRIEFING IS ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 22. THIS IS A SIDE YARD CARPORT AND SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUEST LOCATED AT 31 0 6 GLENDALE DRIVE. THE ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A SIDE YARD, UH, CARPORT AND VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING, UH, TWO AND A HALF FEET FROM THE REQUIRED THREE FEET. AND THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO AND A HALF FEET FROM THAT FENCE FROM THEIR NEIGHBOR'S YARD. UH, WE TYPICALLY REQUEST THREE FEET. UM, THE, IS THE MASK GETTING ME ARE, ARE WE THEY'RE REQUESTING A HALF A FOOT OR THEY'RE REQUESTING A TWO AND A HALF FEET? IT'S, THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO AND A HALF FEET. UH, IT'S MORE THAN HALF A FOOT BECAUSE, UH, 12 INCHES IS A FOOT. RIGHT. SO, RIGHT. YEAH. UM, BUT WE, WE REQUIRE THREE FEET, BUT IT'S TWO AND A HALF FEET THAT THEY'RE, SO THEY WANT TO HAVE TWO AND A HALF FEET. YES. OR 2.5 YES. OR SEVEN INCHES. THEY WANT AN EXTRA SIX INCHES. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, SO THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE ALLOW, BASICALLY CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, PROPERTY, BUT THEY MEET ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. WHAT ? UH, WE'LL GET TO THAT. ONE SECOND. OKAY, HERE WE GO. SO BEFORE I GET TO THAT, JUST A FEW PICTURES OF WHAT THE, UH, PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE. UM, IS IT THE ONE WITH THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT? IT'S ON THE, I BELIEVE YOUR LEFT. THE ONE WITH THE GOING BACK TO THE SHED? YES. THE ONE WITH THE, UH, PANELS ON THE ROOF? CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING BECAUSE IT HAS TWO DRIVEWAY ENTRIES. UM, AND THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT, UH, GOES INTO THE PROPERTY AND IT DOES GO INTO THAT, UH, STORAGE SHED THAT YOU SEE THERE. THIS PICTURE PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE REFERENCE. AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THIS WAS BEFORE THEY INSTALLED THAT SECOND DRIVEWAY ENTRY. AND, UH, IT DOES HAVE TWO APPROACHES, BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, PROPERLY PERMITTED. AND, UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR THE CARPORT TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THAT. SHED BACK UP ONE PICTURE. I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO THEY CUT OUT A HOLE OFF THE CURB AND CORRECT PORT A SLAB AND THE WHOLE BIT AND TO THE LEFT IS ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THAT GOES UP TO THE GARAGE. GOT IT. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S REC THIS SIDE IS THE, UH, DRIVEWAY THAT'S REQUESTING, OR, OR IT'S GONNA BE THE PROPOSED, UH, CARPORT. OKAY. SO REGARDING ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 22 FOR A SIDE YARD, CARDBOARD, AND SIDE YARD SETBACK, 55 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE WAS RETURNED OPPOSED. AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT, MR. APO FIRST? YES, UH, PLEASE. ARE WE ALLOWED TO KNOW WHY IT WAS, UH, OPPOSED? SO THE OPPOSITION LETTER SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I CAN, UH, READ THAT OUT AS WELL IF WE NEED TO. UM, AND I CAN MENTION IT DURING THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. DURING PUBLIC HEARING. I WANT YOU, I'LL PROBABLY ASK YOU TO READ IT IN THE RECORD JUST SO IT'S THERE. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. [00:05:01] SO STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. MM-HMM . MS. EKK, GO AHEAD. SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE WITH THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE HEAD? YES, MA'AM. SO WHERE IS THE, WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY PUTTING THE CARPORT? THE CARPORT AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE DRIVEWAY, UH, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HEADED RIGHT NEXT TO, OR RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSE. UM, LET ME PULL UP THIS SITE PLAN HERE. SO THIS IS THE, UH, HOUSE THERE, THIS IS THE SHED. SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT, UH, TO THE HOUSE. AND IT WOULD STICK OUT FROM THE HOUSE ABOUT A FOOT, I BELIEVE. SO THEY'RE GONNA PUT A CARPORT AND THEN EMPTY SPACE AND THEN THE SHED. CORRECT. AND THE CARPORT IS, UH, LONGER THAN MOST CARPORTS SAY Y'ALL. RIGHT. SO IT'S 45 8 HERE COME ACROSS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A, A, UM, RULE THAT GOVERNS HOW LONG THEY CAN BE. IT'S ABOUT THE WIDTH AND THE SQUARE FOOT AND THEY DO NOT EXCEED EITHER ONE OF THOSE. YEAH. 'CAUSE IF IT'S ONLY EIGHT FOOT WIDE, IT CAN BE 45 FEET AND YOU'RE STILL UNDER 500. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. IF THE CAR IS GONNA BE THERE, WHAT DOES THE REGULATIONS SAY ABOUT GIVING ALLOWANCE FOR FIRE TRUCKS TO MOVE IN, IN CASE? UH, FOR FOR WHAT? SORRY? YOU SAID FIRE TRUCKS? FOR FIRE TRUCKS? YEAH. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. FIREWISE. UM, THEY DIDN'T PULL INTO THE DRIVE. I, I'VE NEVER HEARD ACCESS ONTO, ONTO A PRIVATE DRIVE ACCESS. I'VE HEARD THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY IN THE FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY OR FOR AN ALLEY ACCESS EGRESS, BUT THE ACTUAL, I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET A FIRETRUCK IN MY DRIVEWAY EITHER. I MEAN, THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE BEFORE US. UH, BUT COUNSELOR, AM I WRONG? I DON'T RECALL I'VE EVER HEARD ONE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, THE ORDINANCE SAYS ABOUT THAT. THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT, UM, WOULD BE AN OBJECT TO FIRE SAFETY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT REGARDING THE CARPORT? NO. THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A FIRE REGULATION WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT THE CARPORT. OKAY. I THANK YOU. I THINK MOST FIRE TRUCKS STAY IN THE STREET. YEAH. PULL THE HOSES. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE A LITTLE DOG. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR THIRD ITEM OR SECOND ITEM IN THE PRESENTATION. UH, THIS IS A, UH, REAR YARD SETBACK, ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 24 REAR YARD SETBACK VARIANCE, UH, FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 0 4 PREMIER PARKWAY. THE ZONING IS MULTIFAMILY ONE AND THE REQUEST, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS TO REDUCE THAT MINIMUM REAR YARD SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 15 FEET. AND SO IF YOU CAN SEE ON THIS LOCATION MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, UM, NOTHING BUT DIRT OUT THERE. THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A RECENT, UH, TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT, UM, WAS APPROVED FOR PERMITTING. AND THIS IS WHAT, UH, THE FORM BOARD SURVEY SHOWED THERE WAS A MISTAKE DONE WHEN LAYING DOWN THE FOUNDATION. THEY WENT PAST THE SETBACK AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, MISTAKE THERE WHERE THE TWO LINES CROSS. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE FOR. UM, THAT SEEMS FAIR. SO INITIALLY, IS IT THAT TRIANGLE? YES. OKAY. AND INITIALLY IT'S 20 FEET, BUT UH, 15 FEET IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING NOW. AND JUST TO BE ON THE SAFER SIDE. OKAY. AND BECAUSE IT'S A RECENT DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY PICTURES THAT, UH, WOULD, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING THIS OFF CARRIER. WHAT DISTRICT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, THIS IS CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. THIS IS, THIS IS CLOSE TO 1 6 1 AND I WAS GONNA SAY PREMIER, IT'S UP TOP SOMEWHERE. OKAY. YES. AND I CAN, UH, GET SOME BETTER BEARINGS ON THIS DURING THE HEARING, BUT SO THEY'VE ALREADY POURED IT AND THEY REALIZED THEY MADE A BOO BOO? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE EXCEPT ONE WITH THE RULE OF SKINNY STREETS. IS IT RIGHT OFF OF, UH, BY COTTONWOOD PARK WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THOSE IN? I WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK COTTONWOODS A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. THIS IS GONNA BE UP IN GEORGIA'S DISTRICT. UP OFF CARRIER. YEAH. CARRIER RUNS THROUGH THE WHOLE DARN THING. SO, UH, BUT IF IT'S DISTRICT ONE, THAT'S GONNA BE UP TOP SOMEWHERE. YEAH. AND WE WANT UNDEVELOPED LAND TO BE DEVELOPED. I PERSONALLY, I'M ONE VOTE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE HOW IT [00:10:01] GOES. WELL THAT BACKS UP TO 20. YES, I BELIEVE SO. IT DOES. AND UM, DURING THE, UH, ABOUT 20, UH, 30 30, UH, NO, I THINK IT IS 1 61. YEAH. DISTRICT. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THE PICTURE THERE. SHOWED I THINK BACK UP. DANG BOOK TOO FAR. EIGHT FOUR BACKS UP THE CARRIER. MM-HMM . HERE. I CAN OR WHERE IT'S WHERE, WHERE IT OVERSHOT WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THEY OVERSHOT THE POUR. MM-HMM. BACKS UP THE CARRIER. IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT DOES. BACK UP TO SOUTH CARRIER PARKWAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND 1 61 IS WEST OF THIS PROPERTY. SO WHERE BEFORE IT'S OVERSHOT, THE BACKYARD SET BACK IS THE PORTION TO CARRIER OR IS IT TO THE IT'S THAT CARRIER. IT'S ON CARRIER. IT'S THE CARRIER UPSIDE DOWN TRIANGLE. IT'S ON THE CARRIER. THIS IS CARRIER RIGHT THERE. THIS IS RIGHT HERE. IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE TO WHERE I'M MOVING IT. THIS IS WHERE THE ARROW WAS, CORRECT. OVERSHOT PART, CORRECT. CARRIER. AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, GO AHEAD. DID YOU GET TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF? NOT YET. UM, SO REGARDING ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 0 24 25 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE AND STAB DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST THAT'S ON PHILLIPS COURT. NO. RUNS OFF PHILLIPS COURT. YEAH, IT'S SOUTH OF THIRD. IT'S NORTH OF MARSHALL, RIGHT? OH, IT'S THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU GO DOWN INTO WAGNER? YEAH, ALL THAT STUFF ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE. YEAH. BEFORE YOU GET TO MARSHALL. YEAH, IT'S JUST THE CLASSIC GRAND PRAIRIE DIP WHERE YOU DIP DOWN AND THEN COME BACK UP AT DICKEY. YEAH, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF MC FALLS PARK AND NORTH OF MARSHALL. YEAH, EXCEPT MC FALLS PARK IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF HERE. OKAY. YEAH, PHILLIPS IS ON ONE SIDE. PREMIER PARKWAY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. BASICALLY, WELL DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? BUT NOW THAT WE'VE FINALLY LOCATED IT AND PLACED IT IN OUR FINE CITY, I THINK WE ALL CAN REST EASY KNOWING THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S MCFALL PARK. 'CAUSE IT WASN'T MCFALL PARK WHEN I WAS A BOY SCOUT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU. UH, ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON. GO TO THE THIRD CASE PLEASE. THAT WAS IT. ROLLING. THAT IS ALL. OH, THAT WAS IT FOR TONIGHT. FIRST ONE IS, FIRST ONE IS, UH, . OH, OKAY. I MISSED THAT PART. ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN WE GOT TWO CASES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OR WE GOT FIVE MINUTES FOR A COMFORT BREAK. SO STEVE, ALL RIGHT THEN. WE ARE OFFICIALLY CONCLUDING STAFF BRIEFING. WE'LL ADJOURN TILL THE 6:00 PM THANKS. S UM, WELCOME TO [Call to Order] THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING FOR JUNE 17TH, 2024. I'M BARRY SANDERS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:03 PM THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIES UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DEFY, TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT ON ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION. I AM GOING TO STRESS OUT ONE MORE TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ROOM LOOKING UP HERE, THERE ARE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND CAN CONTINUE. HOWEVER, YOU NEED ALL SEVEN VOTES TO GET AN AFFIRMATIVE APPROVAL OF ANY VARIANCE, ANYTHING BEFORE THIS BOARD. SO JUST GIVE EVERYBODY A HEADS UP. UH, IF WE, IF WE GO TO A VOTE AND YOU GET 6 6 1 5 2 LEGALLY IT DOESN'T PASS. SO LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW YOU GOT SEVEN BUT YOU NEED 'EM ALL. UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED IN THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE JUST LIKE THIS. BARRY SANDERS. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. ERIC ADEEN. HERE. DEBBIE EK. HERE. STACY WHITE. HERE. TIMOTHY EPO? YEAH. UH, ANTHONY LANGSTON HERE. WE DO HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT, THEREFORE WE DO DO HAVE A QUORUM AND WE CAN PROCEED. I'LL NOW ASK MR. BAKER TO DO THE INVOCATION DEARLY. FATHER, WE COME TONIGHT. JUST GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL THAT FOR THE CITY OF GRAND [00:15:01] PRAIRIE HOPE WE WILL BE HONEST AND, AND FAITHFUL AND TRUE TO THE CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE. LORD, KEEP US SAFE AND GUIDE US THROUGH THE NIGHT WE SINGS YOUR NAME, AMEN. AMEN. IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN TO EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS THAT A SPEAKER CARD LIKE THIS BAD BOY HERE AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF YOU IN THE ROOM, WE'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE VERY TOP FOR THE RECORD, ALONG WITH WHOM YOU MIGHT REPRESENT IF THAT APPLIES. STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS. OUR FIRST ACTION [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ITEM OF THE NIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR MEETING OF MAY 20TH, 2024. ANY ME MEMBER OF THE BOARD, WHICH TO SPEAK ON THOSE MINUTES? ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THOSE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 20TH 24 MEETING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 20TH, 2024. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BAKKER, A SECOND BY TIMOTHY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. AND IT PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO. [2. ZBA-24-02-0017 (Council District 3) – Special exception for a garage conversion, located at 2138 Avenue C, legally described as Lot 4, Block 2, Allen Ranch Estates Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District] THAT BRINGS US THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CASES LISTED ON AGENDA. WE HAVE THREE CASES ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE'VE STRUCK ONE, I BELIEVE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. UH, SO FIRST ONE ON THE AGENDA IS OH NUMBER. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE, WE'VE TABLED OR WE'VE STRUCK? OH OH ONE SEVEN NUMBER 2 0 1 7 HAS BEEN STRUCK. OKAY. YEAH. YES, THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN HIS. OKAY. SO IF [3. ZBA-24-05-0022 (Council District 3) – Special exception for a side yard carport and variance to reduce the side yard setback permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 3106 Glendale Dr., legally described as Lot 22, Block 15, Park Valley No.2 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three Residential District ] YOU'LL TAKE US TO ZBA OH 5 0 0 2 4. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. STARTING OFF WITH PRESENTATION WITH ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 0 2 2 2 2. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SIDE YARD CARPORT AND SIDE YARD SETBACK AT A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 31 0 6 GLENDALE DRIVE. THE PROPERTY IS ON SINGLE FAMILY THREE RESIDENTIAL AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A TWO FOOT, TWO AND A HALF OR 2.5 FEET, UH, SETBACK AND A SIDE YARD CARPORT, UH, VARYING FROM THE REQUIRED THREE FEET. UH, FOR A SIDE AREA CARPORT THAT IS REQUIRED. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW AND THIS IS THEIR SITE PLAN, WHICH ELABORATES THEIR REQUEST A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY HAVE 2.5 FEET THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FROM THEIR PROPOSED CARPORTS TO THAT PROPERTY LINE. WE REQUIRED THREE FEET AND OF COURSE THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT CARPORT AS WELL. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE STREET VIEW THAT THE APPLICANT SENT. THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CARPORT WOULD BE LOCATED, UH, NEAR THE SIDE OF THAT HOUSE. IT WOULD STICK UP ABOUT ONE FOOT FROM THE HOUSE AND IT WOULD BE, UH, FOLLOWING UP THAT DRIVEWAY THERE ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK, UH, CLOSE TO THAT SHED THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE. AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT STREET VIEW. JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY DO HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND THE ONE WITH THE GARAGE IS NOT THE ONE THAT IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CARPORT WOULD GO. OKAY. OKAY. BEFORE I READ, UH, THE SUMMARY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THE ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING BRIEFING WAS ABOUT LETTERS AND OPPOSITION AND LETTERS IN SUPPORT. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT STAFF, SO DUTIFULLY MADE AS COPIES. ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE A LETTER IN SUPPORT MM-HMM . THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSON IN, IN OPPOSITION, SOUNDS LIKE. YES. THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT'S GOT ONE NEIGHBOR THAT LOVES HIM AND ONE MAYBE NOT SO MUCH. UH, SO YES, IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, UH, 55 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE RE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. UM, BUT THERE WAS ONE OPPOSITION LETTER AND ONE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. SO WE THOSE YEAH. MY QUESTION THEN YES, MR. APA. GO AHEAD, SIR. MY QUESTION THEN WAS WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE WELL, YOU CAN, YOU CAN READ AT THE BOTTOM. THAT'S JUST BOTTOM. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THEIR LITTLE PARAGRAPH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT SAYS. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S THEIR REASON. THEY, HE'S UGLY OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE. RULES DON'T APPLY. THEY WERE NO, LOTS OF NOS. THAT WAS PERFECT. LOTS OF NOS ON THERE. BUT, UH, [00:20:01] WE HAVE WHAT THEY WROTE. AND ON THE OTHER, OTHER SIDE, THE PERSON IN SUPPORT, I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AN EGREGIOUS, THAT'S MY ANCESTRAL VERY GROUND. HE'S TRYING TO PUT A CARPORT OVER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, COUNSELOR, ARE YOU WEIGHING IN? ARE YOU TURNING OFF? WELL, SINCE WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT THE CONTEXT IS, I WAS GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD BECAUSE THAT'S FINE. PLEASE DO. YEAH. UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF 'EM JUST SAID, I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. THE OTHER ONE SAID, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DISAGREEABLE NEIGHBOR THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH FOR YEARS. HE THINKS THE RULES DON'T APPLY TO HIM. HE HAS ALREADY MADE THE EXTERIOR UGLY WITH AN EXTRA DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALK. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? UH, TO THE STAFF? UH, GO AHEAD MR. LANGTON. I MIKE YOUR FOR SEVEN INCHES, I THINK, UH, SIX INCHES. WHAT IS A HALF INCH FOR? UH, THAT THEY ASKED FOR SIX INCHES. SIX INCHES. I MEANT, WHAT IS IT FOR? YES, UHHUH . WHY, WHY DO THEY NEED THAT? UM, THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. OKAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT. MM-HMM . UM, SO THEY CAN'T GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL ABOUT IT, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO STAFF. OKAY. CAN YOU SCROLL US BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE OVERHEAD OF WHAT, WHERE THEY INTEND TO BILL? 'CAUSE I THINK YES, MR. IT'S CONTEXT CLUES, BUT CLEARLY THEY'VE RUN AN EIGHT FOOT DRIVEWAY RIGHT UP THERE ALONG THE HOUSE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR SUPPORT PILLARS HAVE TO BE JUST OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT. THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY, YEAH. SO IF YOU'VE GOT LITTLE CIRCLES NEXT TO IT OUTSIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE, IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CARPORT, WHY THEY NEEDED THE SIX. SURE. I, WHEN I, UH, SPOKE TO THE APPLICANTS, UM, I COULDN'T GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HE WAS INTENDING TO DO OUT THERE. PERHAPS MAYBE A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. UM, BUT HE WASN'T VERY WILLING TO TELL ME WHY. SO HE WASN'T FORTHCOMING. CORRECT. AND UNFORTUNATELY HE IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT. SO, BUT THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND, ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. GO AHEAD MR. BAKER. SO THE CARPORT BASICALLY COVERS THE WHOLE WIDTH OF THE DRIVE THAT'S GOING UP THE SIDE, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT OF STAFF ON THIS ONE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TO MY RIGHT? GO AHEAD MR. ADE. SO IN LOOKING AT THE PICTURE THAT YOU HAD UP THERE, YOU SAID THAT, UM, IS THE DRIVEWAY NOT RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE AS IT IS? IS IT TWO AND A HALF FEET OVER FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT DRIVEWAY LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING RIGHT. WELL, MAYBE NOT. GUESS THERE'S, YEAH, LOOK TO, THERE, THERE'S THE FENCE. THERE'S A, YEAH, TWO AND A HALF FEET AWAY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, WE WANNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW MUCH WE INFER FROM PICTURES. YEAH. YES, SIR. MR. DETO, GO AHEAD. IS IT THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, UH, PARKWAY? THAT COMPLAINT? IT IS ONE OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THAT DID SUBMIT THAT POSITION. I'M NOT SURE ON WHICH SIDE BECAUSE THE, THE NEIGHBOR IS TO THE WEST IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. OKAY. IMMEDIATELY NEXT. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. TO THE WEST. YES. TO THE WEST. NOT THE, NOT THE EAST, NOT THE PROPERTY WE CAN SEE WAS ABOVE, SO 30, 31 0 2 ON THIS PICTURE IS TO THE WEST, AND SO IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVEWAY'S GONNA BE. THE DRIVEWAY'S GOING TO BE TO THE EAST. SO IT'S GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE 31 0 10 OH, THE DRIVEWAY'S TO THE 31, 10 10. SO 31 0 2 IS THE ONE THAT COMPLAINED. 31 0 2 DOESN'T LIKE IT EVEN THOUGH RIGHT. 31 TEN'S GOT A BOAT OUT THERE AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. OH YEAH. OKAY. I SEE THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE, SO IT'S NOT THAT NEIGHBOR THAT'S A FRONTED IN THIS PHOTO, CORRECT? YEAH. I MEAN, HE'S GOT IT IN HIS DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. WELL, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE GUTTERS. I SAW ABOUT THE GUTTERS. THEY'RE GONNA RUN THE WATER TO THE STREET. SAID THAT ON THE THING. YEAH, IT'S ALREADY RIGHT HERE. IT SAYS RAIN GUTTERS WILL FLOW TO THE STREET VIA CONCRETE DRIVEWAY. SO THEY, THEY'RE INCLUDING THE GUTTERS AND IT'S GONNA EXIT ON THE STREET. ON THE STREET, NOT IN THE DRAINAGE BRINGING IT DOWN SO IT WON'T LAND ON THE PROPERTY. YEAH. MR. BAKER, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THIS, UH, THING? I TURN OFF THE TOP. YOU GOT A DRAWING, BUT IT DOES SEE HERE DRAWING AND I, I THINK IT'S 11 FEET. YES. THIS IS SO QUIET. WHAT'S HEIGHT CODE? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S, WHAT'S CODE FOR HEIGHT? SO WE DON'T TYPICALLY ALLOW ANYTHING TALLER THAN THE PROPERTY OR THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. SORRY. MM-HMM. THAT'S RIGHT. [00:25:02] MRPA, GO AHEAD. YES, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE DRAINAGE INTO THE STREET. CAN WE, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT THE PAVED. THAT'S PRIOR TO THE EXTRA DRIVEWAY. DRIVEWAY, CORRECT. OH, THAT'S PRIOR. BEFORE THAT HE PUT THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN THE OTHER, THE, HE PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN RIGHT HERE BEFORE THEY PAINTED LIKE A TEXAS, HE PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN THERE. THIS IS A MORE RECENT PICTURE. YEAH. FROM YES, I LIKE THAT PAINT. MY NEIGHBORS MIGHT NOT. SO THERE'S NO TOW AGAINST DOUBLE TRIBES? NOT, IT'S SHOCKING. WELL, THEY MUST HAVE HAD, SO NOT IN THIS, THIS APPLICANT DID GET ALL THE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING PROPERLY DONE FOR THAT SECOND DRIVEWAY. ONE MORE QUESTION. GO AHEAD, MR. FROM YOUR OWN PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE ANY DISTORTION IN THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THE ENVIRONMENT? DO YOU THINK THERE'S A DISTORTION? SO THE CARPORT WOULD GO ON TOP OF A DRIVEWAY THAT WAS PERMIT LEGALLY PERMITTED. SO IN TERMS OF THE CARPORT ITSELF, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . IT'S GONNA GO ON A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE A CAR. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YOU GOOD? AND YOU GOT IT? TIMOTHY? ANTHONY, YOU'RE ALL GOOD? ALL RIGHT. WELL I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY MADE IT THROUGH A CASE HERE THAT WAS MORE QUESTIONS. WE'VE FIRED AT YOU IN A LONG TIME, SO YOU DID WELL. UM, SO YOU'VE MADE IT THROUGH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, CORRECT? WE'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT TO SPEAK. THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ONE? , ANYONE IN THE ROOM WANNA SPEAK AGAINST IT? GOTTA PLAY THE GAME. SEEING NONE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THE BOARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE ZBA 2 4 0 5 0 0 2, 2 AND APPROVE. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FROM MR. WHITE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE? SEEING NONE, EVERYBODY KNOW WE'RE VOTING TO APPROVE. SO IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE. AYE. AND IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SO BY A COUNT OF FIVE TO TWO, THIS MOTION FAILS. OKAY. SEE THAT WAS THE WHOLE MATH THING I EXPLAINED AT THE BEGINNING. UH, FINAL [4. ZBA-24-05-0024 (Council District 1) – Variance to reduce the minimum rear yard setback for a single-family residence permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 804 Premier Pkwy., legally described as Lot 1, Block 3, Carrier Parkway Townhomes Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Multifamily-One District ] CASE FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZBA 2 4 0 5 0 0 24. ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA. SALVADOR, WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ZBA 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 24 IS A REQUEST FOR A REAR YARD SETBACK VARIANCE FOR A PROPERTY TO BE LOCATED AT 8 0 4 PREMIER PARKWAY. AND TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BEARINGS ON THIS, UH, THIS IS LOCATED EAST OF 1 6 1 AND NORTH OF MARSHALL, WEST OF CARRIER PARKWAY, AND IT IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY. ONE. THE PROPERTY IS FOR A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO BE FOR TOWN HOMES AND THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS VARYING OR REQUESTING TO VARY FROM A REQUIRED SETBACK OF 20 FEET TO 15 FEET. THE BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE IS THE DEVELOPERS HERE HAD A REQUIRED SETBACK OF 20 FEET. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS FORM BOARD SURVEY, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. THE FOUNDATION WAS POURED AND THEY WERE, THE FOUNDATION WAS POURED, UH, ENCROACHING ON THAT SETBACK. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT VARIANCE TO CON CONTINUE WITH THEIR PERMITTING. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THIS IS A PICTURE KIND OF SHOWING WHAT'S OUT THERE. SO REGARDING B 24 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 0 2 4 25, NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ZERO OR RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED, AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. AND I WILL LEAVE THIS PICTURE UP HERE FOR NOW. PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, I DO NOT HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE IN MY CAR. SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE, THEY HAVE SENT OVER. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE FROM JUST A REGULAR PICTURE OF SOMETHING ENCROACHING ON A SETBACK, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORM BOARD SURVEY, IT DOES SHOW THAT ENCROACHMENT WHERE I'M PUTTING MY MOUSE [00:30:01] HERE ON THAT TRIANGLE, AND I CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. QUESTIONS OF STAFFED. AM I RIGHT? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I'LL GO BACK TO MY RIGHT ONE MORE TIME. ALL RIGHT, SALVADOR, YOU MADE IT OUTTA THAT ONE TOO. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR A, IS IT JACOB MADEWELL OR MAYWELL? MADEWELL. OKAY. I TRIED TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN I NEEDED TO. SIR, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND START AT THE TOP WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS. MY NAME IS JAKE AND MADEWELL WITH LAND LINK REALTY. THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS SITE. IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS PICTURE HERE OF THE FORM BOARD SURVEY, THE OUTLINE BUILD LINE, ACTUALLY THERE'S NO ORIENTATION OF THAT BUILDING WHERE YOU CAN FIT IT INSIDE OF THAT BUILD LINE. THE FORM BOARD SURVEY WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR COMMENTS. INITIALLY THE CITY CAME BACK WITH COMMENTS ASKING FOR THE ADDRESSES TO BE LABELED ON THE FORM BOARD SURVEY. AND DURING THE FIRST SET OF REVIEWS, THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE, IT BEING OVER THE BUILD LINE. WHENEVER WE SUBMITTED IT THE SECOND TIME, WE HAD WAITED A WEEK AND A HALF AND THE FOUNDATION WAS POURED AND THEN THEY CAME BACK UPON INSPECTION AND SAID, YOU'RE OVER THE SETBACK THERE. IF YOU LOOK ON THIS FORM BOARD SURVEY LOT SEVEN X ON THE FAR EAST OF THAT, THAT IS OWNED BY US AS WELL. THAT IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. UH, SO WE AREN'T WITHIN THE SETBACK OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ON THE STREET. JUST ENCROACHING ON THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. YOU'RE ENCROACHING ON YOUR OWN LAND. IT'S JUST DRAINAGE SETBACK. OKAY. I THINK WE ALL FEEL, I I LOVE THAT THEY TELL YOU AFTER THE CONCRETE'S DRIED, HEY, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG SPOT. YEAH, BUT THE, FOR THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A SLAB, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO MOVE THAT. YEAH. IF YOU MOVE IT FORWARD, YOU'RE STICKING OUT ON THE SIDE. YEAH, YOU'RE STICKING OUT, WHICH IS ON THE STREET. IF YOU ROTATE IT, YOU'RE STICKING OUT TOWARDS THE OTHER BUILDING. I SEE. OKAY. WELL THAT, THAT SEEMS FAIR. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT. MR. EPO. GO AHEAD SIR. NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. WELL THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZBA 2 4 0 5 0 0 2 4. ANYONE WILLING TO SPEAK WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE? SEEING NONE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 24 0 5 0 0 2 4. SECOND I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER. SECOND FROM MR. OPPO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS CASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NONE. SO WE ARE SEVEN TO ZERO. THIS CASE IS APPROVED. UM, THIS NOW MOVES US TO CITIZENS' COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OTHER CITIZENS IN THE ROOM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT READY TO TEE UP ON ME. , IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FILL IN A CARD AND GO OVER MY LIST OF GRIEVANCES, I'M SURE MY WIFE AND EX-WIFE WILL HELP YOU. UM, WITH NONE OF THAT, I'M GONNA SAY WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR COMING FOLKS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. WE CAN GET HOME FULL HOUR BEFORE TIP OFF. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.