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THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.[Planning & Zoning Briefing 061024]
GOT A SERIES OF INTERCEPTOR AND LIFT STATION EXPANSIONS IN THE NORTH.SAME CONCEPT WITH THE GROWTH RELATED STUDIES TO BE INCLUDED HERE AS WELL.
UH, THEN MOVING AHEAD TO THE SOUTH ONCE AGAIN, LITTLE TO NO INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE.
UM, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE BRANCHED OFF.
THE, THE MAIN, UM, KIND OF TRUNK LINE INTERCEPTOR, THAT WOULD BE THE ORANGE PROJECT I AND J THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, UM, THEY, THEY, UH, CONVEY, SO WATER WASTEWATER IN THE SOUTH SECTOR MOVES REALLY FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.
AND THEN IT'S ALL GONNA BE PUMPED TO THE, WHAT'S CALLED THE MOUNTAIN CREEK REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM PLANT, WHICH IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY OR TRA.
UM, SO HERE AGAIN, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HERE ARE, UM, ON THE CITY'S RADAR TO BE BUILT AND DEVELOPED WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND SO WE'LL BE TAKING THAT PORTION OF, UM, CAPACITY UTILIZED AND TRANSLATING THAT INTO DOLLARS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED IN THE IMPACT FEE CALCULATION.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'D LIKE FOR BUDDY TO TELL US WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT ALL THIS.
A LOT OF WORK,
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO VERY QUICKLY.
SO, SO HERE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FOR TODAY.
THIS IS ALL FOR, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND COME UP WITH WHAT THAT IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE COST IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UH, STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE CAN DO A CREDIT, WE CAN CREDIT BACK A PORTION OF THE COST OR THAT DOES NOT GET INCLUDED INTO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IMPACT FEE.
MORE TO COME ON THAT NEXT MEETING.
UH, SO YOU TAKE WHAT THAT COST WILL, LIKE, DIVIDE IT BY THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH YOU'RE SEEING, AND THAT'S GONNA GIVE YOU THAT WHAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IMPACT FEE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
Y'ALL WILL PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL, OR YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT TO COUNCIL WHAT Y'ALL FEEL THE THE RATE SHOULD BE.
AND SO WE WILL BRING YOUR CURRENT RATES, WE WILL BRING SOME, SOME NEIGHBORS RATES TO SEE IF YOU'RE COMPETITIVE.
ARE WE GONNA BE TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS DO.
AND THE, THE CHARGE THEN WILL BE TO PRODUCE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND CIP ON JULY 16TH.
UM, JULY 2ND IS THE DATE WE ARE ASKING FOR A WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION BY THIS COMMITTEE TO COUNSEL.
UM, I SAID WE HAD TO BE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, BUT WITH THE HOLIDAY AND EVERYTHING, WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME.
UM, OUR NEXT MEETING THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING TO Y'ALL WILL BE ON JULY 22ND WITH THOSE CALCULATIONS, RECOMMENDED RATES AND THAT BENCHMARKING.
UH, FROM THERE WE WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 17TH FOR SETTING THE, UM, THE NEW RATES, UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, THE WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION DUE TO COUNSEL BY SEPTEMBER 3RD.
SO WITH THAT, UM, OH, HAVE A QUESTION.
WE HAD SINGLE FAMILY HOME WATER RATES BACK.
SINGLE FAMILY LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT.
SO DOES THAT REALLY ONLY INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR IS THAT ALSO INCLUDING APARTMENT? WELL, IT, IT INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING GETS BOILED DOWN TO THAT IS THE KIND OF THE COMMON DENOMINATOR.
SO WE WILL TAKE, LIKE FOR A NON-RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE WILL, WE WILL CONVERT THAT INTO HOW MANY SINGLE FAMILY LIVING, SINGLE FAMILY LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENTS.
I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE DATES.
UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE TEAM RIGHT NOW, SOME OF US WILL BE LEAVING, UH, AND YOU'LL BE GETTING NEW PEOPLE.
DOES THE PEOPLE ON HERE NOW SO STAY THE SAME OR THIS IS GONNA BE THE SAME AS IT WOULD WITH ANYTHING THAT PNZ HANDLES OR ANY OTHER BOARD HANDLES? IT IS GONNA BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AND WHOEVER IS ON THE BOARD OR THE COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION OR THAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO OUR AD HOC MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED SPECIFICALLY BY COUNSEL FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEMBERS.
IT WILL BE, WHOEVER'S ON PNC AT THAT TIME WILL COMPRISE THE BOARD ALONG WITH THOSE AD HOC MEMBERS OR THE COMMITTEE I SHOULD SAY.
AND SO THEY'LL BE THE ONES VOTING ON ANY ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE FUTURE ACTION ITEMS, WHEREAS THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE VOTING ON TODAY'S ACTION ITEMS. SO THEN THOSE, THE NEW MEMBERS WILL BE CAUGHT UP WITH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTED THE STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED.
WE DO A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING WITH ANY NEW MEMBER THAT COMES ON, MUCH LIKE WE DO WHEN A NEW MEMBER COMES ON TO P AND Z.
WE WOULD DO A SEPARATE BRIEFING WITH THEM AND BRING THEM UP TO DATE ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE AT THAT POINT.
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OKAY.SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT THE, AT THAT POINT IN THEORY, THERE WOULD BE LAND USE ADOPTIONS AND A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED.
AND SO THEY'LL BE INFORMED AND EDUCATED ON THAT PIECE, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE IMPACT FEE.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SLEPT SINCE THEN AS WELL.
SO, SO REAL QUICK, HE'S GONNA JUST, TODAY YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
YOU CAN VOTE ON THEM IN A SINGLE MOTION.
ONE, THEY'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU KIND OF WHERE, HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT, THOSE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND ANNUAL GROWTH.
SO THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED.
THEY'VE KIND OF SHOWED YOU WHAT THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHERE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE PROJECTS WITH STAFF AND IDENTIFIED BOTH NORTH SECTOR AND SOUTH SECTOR PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO, UM, ADOPT THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO ASKING YOU TO, UM, LOOK AT THAT, UH, DRAFT REPORT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND APPROVE THAT.
SO ALL OF THIS WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION.
CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN IT AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FEEDBACK.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ADOPT THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
LET, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'M STATING THIS CORRECTLY.
UH, AS A GENERAL RULE, EVERYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN IT A GO.
I MEAN, A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL IS WELL, BECAUSE I MEAN, OH, WE'RE JUST LAY PEOPLE HERE.
THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY UNIQUE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS ONE HAS BEEN LOOKED AT HEAVILY BY YOUR WATERS UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS MORE WITHIN THEIR DOMAIN.
THEY DID GET INFORMATION FROM PLANNING WITH REGARD TO LAND USE AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP, BUT IT HAS LARGELY BEEN LOOKED AT BY OUR WATER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEN ALSO WITH THE CONSULTANT FREEZE AND NICHOLS.
BUT IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY CREDIBLE STAFF THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THAT.
IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY MULTIPLE LICENSED ENGINEERS, IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.
UM, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ASKING STAFF.
SO I DIDN'T MISS THAT THIS WAS EMAILED TO ME, DID I? NO, THIS IS, I'VE RECEIVED THIS 20 MINUTES AGO.
I'M ASKING, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE AN EMAIL WITH THIS IN IT.
I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THIS NO, NO, THAT WASN'T IN IT.
NO, THAT WAS NOT IN THE DROPBOX.
THE ONLY THING WE HAD WAS THE, UH, REGULAR SCHEDULE, THIS LIGHTS AND THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE THE SLIDES, WE HAVE THIS LIGHTS THAT HE, I DON'T HAVE THOSE.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT'S JAMMED INTO 30 MINUTES AND, UM, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING ANY KIND OF DECISIONS, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY MATTERS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SURE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE REST OF MY BOARD HAD I, I'VE BEEN OUT TOWN, SO I I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO IF IT CAME LAST WEEK, I WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IT FRIDAY.
WELL, WELL, MY QUESTION TO YOU, TIFFANY, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MADNESS.
WHY CAN'T WE JUST TABLE THIS AND THEN, AND DO IT LATER? I MEAN, IT SEEMS YOU'RE ASKING US A LOT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, WE JUST GOT THIS MINUTE, THIS, THIS INFORMATION 30 MINUTES AGO.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THAT, THAT IS FULLY WITHIN YOUR RIGHT.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO TABLE IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU TABLE IT TO JUNE 24TH, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THIS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT NOW OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT TILL, UH, NEXT, NEXT MEETING? IF I CAN SPEAK.
I, I, QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY POINT IN TABLING IT, QUITE HONESTLY, WITHOUT THE DIRECTION AND EXPLANATION AND FURTHER QUESTIONS BEING ASKED AND ANSWERED WHILE WE'RE AWAY, WE'RE GONNA BE JAMMED INTO ANOTHER 30 MINUTES AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, SO WELL, THE, THE BASIC, UH, FOR ME IS THAT WE'RE A A, A TEAM AND THIS, BY MAJORITY, EVERYTHING WE DO IS BY MAJORITY VOTE.
I WAS JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS OF THE TEAM, BECAUSE I, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE SO FAR BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOOKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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ANYONE, THEY WOULD BRING THIS TO US WITHOUT HAVING IT BEING LOOKED OVER.LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST LIKE PEOPLE AND WE'RE JUST DOING A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF, OF THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY NEEDS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH.
SO, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO, I, I HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS OF IT OR IF THEY WANT TO TABLE IT OR NOT.
SO THE CONSENSUS IS WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA SAY? UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? NO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I THINK YOU, YOU ADDRESSED THIS, THAT THE, THE CITY STAFF HAS ALREADY VETTED THIS MM-HMM
IN TERMS OF THE, THE GROWTH AND THE TRENDS.
AND, AND FOR US IT'S MORE OF A KIND OF A PRESENTATION, KIND OF A APPROVING WITH THE CITY STAFF MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S SO MANY DETAILS HERE, RIGHT.
THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME ELEMENT OF TRUST HERE THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN, BEEN VETTED BY THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WORKS AND, UH, AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO, I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS INDICATE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GO ON.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER KIN, I JUST AGREE, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, THAT, UH, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY HERE JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY SEEN AND APPROVED MM-HMM
AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE JUST ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
CITY COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL VOTE.
COMMISSIONER O COLEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
ARE YOU, OH, IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? OH, I'M SORRY, JUST SPEAKING.
UM, I WANNA KNOW, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT THE WATER SOURCE WITH JOE POOL, AND YOU SAID THAT DALLAS HAS THE RIGHTS TO THAT WATER SOURCE.
AND SO THE NEXT FRAME, YOU SAID THAT WE ARE GETTING WATER FROM MIDLOTHIAN AND MANSFIELD.
WHY, WHY DOES DALLAS HAVE RIGHTS TO OUR WATER TO JOE POOL LAKE, WHICH IS HOUSED IN GRAND PRAIRIE? IS THAT A SILLY QUESTION? MAYBE SO, BUT I'M CURIOUS.
WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE LAKE MAY RESIDE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU NECESSARILY HAVE WATER RIGHT TO IT.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, LEGAL EASE OR WATER SUPPLY LAW THAT I'M NOT PRIVY TO.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE LAKES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENCES WHO LIVE AND ARE ADJACENT TO IT, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE RIGHT TO THAT WATER.
THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY, UM, COMPLICATED ISSUE.
WELL, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO COMPLICATE THINGS.
AND, AND I'LL ADD THAT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T PULL WATER FROM THERE DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER AT ALL.
ANYTHING ELSE, TIFFANY? THANK YOU.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THAT IS, UH, WHAT, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 TO ONE EIGHT.
AND HOW MANY ARE AGAINST? ONE? ONE.
SO, EIGHT, FOUR, AND ONE AGAINST.
AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IF YOU WISH TO ADJOURN THAT MEETING.
UM, YES, UH, THE CAPITAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS NOW, UH, DISMISSED.