* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM] [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS. WE'LL GO. WE GOT ENOUGH TO BRIEF. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE GONNA BE VERY FAST. WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 18TH, 2024. I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THE STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 5:35 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND PREVIEWS THE CASES. ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND PRESENTATION OF THE CASE. HOWEVER, NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. I'M NOW GOING TO CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF THE MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE. BARRY SANDERS. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. KIMBERLY YARO. HERE. ADEEN. HERE. DEBBIE EK. HERE. STACEY WHITE. HERE. UM, JOSE. LEN HERE. MELINDA ROGERS HERE. SO WE HAVE, I GOT EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND WE CAN BEGIN OUR BRIEFING. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE SO THAT WE CAN RECORD YOU AND HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER STAFF TO PRESENT OUR TWO CASES IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THANK YOU CHAIR. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? OH, THERE WE GO. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD, UH, MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS ALOR. I'M WITH THE GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING DIVISION AND I'LL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, UH, FOR TWO CASES. THE FIRST CASE ON THE AGENDA, ZBA 24 DASH ZERO TWO DASH ZERO FOUR. THIS IS A VARIANCE FOR A SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 0 1 HILL STREET. IT IS OWNED SINGLE FAMILY SIX RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THAT MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK, WHICH IS FACING THAT STREET, UH, FROM 15 FEET TO SEVEN FEET. THIS IS A CLOSE SHOT UP OF THE PROPERTY. SO 9 0 1, UH, BEING, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE THERE OF 9 0 5. BACKUP ONE PLEASE. SURE. OF COURSE. 8 1 7. THAT'S NOT 15 FEET IS IT? UH, WHICH ONE TO, TO THE EAST. OH 8 3 7 8 3 7. MY VAL, MY BAD. YEAH, THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SET 15 FEET OFF OF. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT RESIDENT, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT DOESN'T WELL, WHEN IT'S COHESIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S A LOT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. GO AHEAD SIR. SORRY. SURE. NO PROBLEM. AND THIS IS, UH, THEIR SURVEY. SO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PROPOSING A SINGLE FAM FAMILY HOME, UH, ON THE LOTS. AND BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, WHAT IS IT? EASTERN SIDE FACES THAT STREET. MM-HMM . THE RULE SAYS THAT THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD, UH, SETBACK MUST BE 15 FEET. IF THEY WERE TO DO 15 FEET, IT WOULD BE, UH, DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT ANY TYPE OF HOME ON THAT NARROW LOCK. I GOT IT. SO IN REFERENCE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, UH, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? MS. ROGERS? GO AHEAD. AND THIS MAY NOT PERTAIN, SO IF IT REALLY DOESN'T, JUST TELL ME TO MOVE ON. BUT, SO LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, LET'S SAY THEY BUILT THAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY BRING IN CURB AND GUTTER MM-HMM . OR, UM, WIDEN THE STREET, RIGHT? YEAH. SO TYPICALLY, UH, THERE IS AN EASEMENT THERE ALREADY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS PLENTY OF, UH, DEDICATED SPACING CASE THEY WERE TO, UH, EXPAND THE STREET OR THE RIGHT OF WAY. UM, LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A RAIN. UH, THEY ALREADY HAVE DRAINS RIGHT THERE OPPOSITE EACH OTHER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT. OH, THAT MAY BE CURVED ALREADY. I CAN'T TELL. YEAH, THAT'S CURVED WITH OKAY. WITH, WITH WATER DRAINS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO DOWN THERE OPPOSITE EACH OTHER. RIGHT. ON THE OKAY. DISREGARD. YEAH, NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE THEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO CBA DASH 24 DASH TWO DASH 0 0 0 5. THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT 1417 ALL SPA LANE. UH, IT IS ON PD 84. UH, AND THE RULE GOES, UH, AS Y'ALL MAY BE FAMILIAR, UH, IN ORDER FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION TO BE PERMITTED, UH, THROUGH STAFF, THERE HAS TO BE TWO OFF STREET, UH, PARKING SPACES AND THERE HAS TO BE ONE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THAT, UH, REQUESTED [00:05:01] SITES. THEY DO HAVE AMPLE PARKING, UH, OFF STREET, AMPLE PARKING, BUT THEY DO NOT MEET THAT BUFFER LAYER, UH, OF 300 FEET. SO THERE'S A PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN, UM, NOT REALLY MAKING ANY CHANGES EXCEPT CONVERTING THAT GARAGE SPACE, UH, INTO A LIVING SPACE. AND THIS IS, UH, TO HELP YOU GET A BETTER PICTURE OF THE CLOSEST LEGALLY CONVERTED GARAGE, UH, OR GARAGE INTO LIVING SPACES. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ABOUT THREE BLOCKS AWAY. UH, IT DOESN'T MEET THE 300 FOOT RULE. OKAY. AND THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF A FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLE PARKING SPACE. UH, UM, SO REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 38 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR OR POST. AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THAT REQUEST. OKAY. QUESTION STAFF TO MY LEFT. MS. EK. UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTY AROUND THERE? I KNOW IT'S NOT APPROVED, BUT DID YOU SEE ANY THAT WERE ALREADY CONVERTED? NO. SO THERE'S NONE CONVERTED IN THAT WHOLE AREA? THAT'S RIGHT. AS FAR AS I GET. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE IF THEY GET IT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THOUGH? 'CAUSE IT'S CORRECT. I SEE THEY HAVE THE GARAGE DOOR UP AND I I REMEMBER A CASE SOME OH YEAH, YEAH. SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AGO WHEN THEY BRICKED IT, THEY BRICKED IT IN AND EVERYBODY HAD A FIT. AND THE SOLUTION WOULD'VE BEEN IF YOU LET THE GARAGE DOOR UP. RIGHT? NOBODY WOULD'VE KNOWN. NOBODY WOULD'VE KNOWN IF GRANDMA WAS LIVING IN THERE OR WHOEVER WAS LIVING IN THERE. IT'S LIKE, SO NO, WE DON'T KNOW THEY THAT'S RIGHT. THEY DIDN'T FILE ANY PERMITS. BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I I AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE ALL ACRE PLUS LOTS, RIGHT? IS THIS SITTING IN THAT AREA? NO, NO. THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH. IT'S THE BIG LOTS. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S A PRETTY BIG, WELL, NADINE, THEY, NADINE AND, YES. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHTS OUT THERE WITH OUTSIDE. ALRIGHT. I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE USE? THE USE, IT'S AN ATTACHED GARAGE. THIS IS A, AN ADDITIONAL BEDROOM? YES. TO A LIVING SPACE. YEAH. AND, AND LIVING SPACE. IT SAYS LIVING SPACE. THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE TONIGHT IN CASE THEY, UH, THIS WON'T LET WANNA EXPLAIN ANY FURTHER. OKAY. I DO HAVE ANOTHER YES, MS. ROGERS. GO AHEAD. DO THIS. OKAY. IT'S A COMMENT. IT'S A COMMENT ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID. GO AHEAD. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, I CAN ONLY SPEAK, BUT OBJECTIONS THAT I HAVE TO SETTING PRECEDENT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE OUTWARD APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE. YES, I AGREE. PEOPLE ENCLOSED WITHOUT YOU EVER KNOWING YET. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THEY KEEP THEIR GARAGE DOOR UP OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ACTUAL GARAGE ENCLOSURE, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT DRIVEWAY IS GONNA GO INTO A BRICK WALL MORE THAN WELL A DOOR. YEAH. OKAY. THAT THING. YES. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS, IS I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY JUST REBUTTING WHAT YOU SAY HERE. 'CAUSE YES, THERE PROBABLY ARE OUT THERE. SURE. BUT YOU CAN'T TELL IT BECAUSE THEY LEFT THEIR GARAGE DOOR UP. SO IT'S NOT A AFFECT ANY OF BOUNDARIES OR FOR PER PRECIPITATING MORE OF THESE CONVERSIONS THAT DO AFFECT VALUE. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT IS THE WAY MS. ACHE SAID IT. IT WAS, I THINK I EVEN SHARED ANECDOTALLY ON THAT ONE CASE THAT CAME BEFORE US THREE TIMES THAT I, IN 1978, MY FATHER CLOSED IN OUR, OUR GARAGE, UH, OUR GARAGE. BUT THE DOOR WAS THERE AND NOBODY KNEW WE HAD POOL TABLE STUFF IN THERE. IT WAS JUST KIND OF, WE DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT. WE DID. I I KIND OF APPLAUD CITIZENS THAT ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND FILL OUT AN APP, YOU KNOW, A PERMIT FOR IT. AND I, I'M TORN 'CAUSE I, I HATE TO BEAT UP PEOPLE FOR DOING IT RIGHT WHEN THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BY DOING IT, DOING IT WRONG, BY NOT DOING THE PERMITS, NOT COMING BEFORE THIS, THIS BODY AND GETTING APPROVAL FOR IT. MM-HMM . BUT WE BEAT 'EM UP BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW ABOUT IT. THERE ARE PLENTY THAT ARE BUILT THAT WAY THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST ALL PROPERTIES ARE GONNA HAVE A FRONT DRIVE, UM, BUT NOT ALL HAVE GARAGES. MM-HMM . AND SO IF IT MATCHES THE REST OF THE HOUSE, IT'S ISSUE THERE. I MEAN IT'S CERTAINLY A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHERE I GREW UP. I MEAN, I'M HOPING THAT I HAVEN'T JUST GOT MY FATHER IN TROUBLE FROM 50 YEARS AGO, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING. BUT ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS THERE THAT HE BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A INFLUENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE THESE, A LOT OF THESE ARE ONE ACRE, TWO ACRE, LOTS, BIG HOUSES. UM, I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IT DOES MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE TO PROTECT THOSE OF THEIR HOMEOWNERS THAT DO. I MEAN THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A FIRST TIME OWNER TYPE HOUSE NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. AND SO I AND, AND THERE'S NOT SOME THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA START A PRECEDENCE ON A SMALLER HOUSE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THAT. SO IT DOES NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STATED EVEN IN THAT WE APPROVE IF WE APPROVE [00:10:01] THIS, THAT IT NEEDS TO REALLY MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I AGREE. SO CAN I MAKE A COMMENT THERE? SURE. ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORS OR HOME VALUES. I BELIEVE, I DON'T REMEMBER. 'CAUSE I'M MIGHT SEEN A SLIDE OF HOW MANY NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. BUT I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY DO THAT. TO GET OH, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A ISSUE, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. IF I DON'T SEE THAT ANYBODY HAD A PROPOSED IT, YOU KNOW, NOR DOES STAFF OPPOSE IT. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WE'LL SEE. ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL SEE DURING HEARING IF ANYONE SHOWS UP TO SPEAK FOR, BUT WE ARE SETTING PRECEDENCE IS WHAT I'M SAYING. COUNSEL. WELL, WE'RE SUPPO TIME OUT. JUST GO AHEAD COUNSEL. JUST ONE MOMENT. I I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE STAFF BRIEFING AND THE PURPOSE IS FOR STAFF TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION IS, AND DELIBERATION SHOULD BE HAD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION SO THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO HEAR IT AND TO REBUT OR COMMENT ON IT AND PARTICIPATE AND BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. THAT'S I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. I SEE. SO, OKAY, WE'LL ALL SHUT UP RIGHT NOW. , DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NOT OF ME? OR DID THEY GIVE ANY TYPE OF PLAN OR DRAWING TO SHOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THEY CONVERT IT? UH, YES MA'AM. THIS IS OKAY. SO JUST YES OR NO. WE'LL, OKAY. WE'LL SEE LATER, . OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS NOW THIS NOW CONCLUDES OUR STAFF BRIEFING AND WE'LL TAKE A 14 MINUTE BREAK, AT WHICH POINT WE WILL NOT DELIBERATE ON ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT 14 MINUTES. , EXCEPT YOU GUYS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE MY DAD'S HOUSE WAS AND WHY HE DID THAT. YES. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SOOTHE THEM. PEOPLE WE'RE ADJOURNED. WE'LL COME BACK AT AT SIX O'CLOCK AND SHE'S GONNA HAMMER ME. ALRIGHT, [Call to Order] WE'RE SAFE. ALL RIGHTY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. SEE, SHE TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED TO THE CLOCK AS SOON AS I SAID SOMETHING TOLD YOU IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN. THANK YOU COUNSELOR FOR KEEPING US ON TASK. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING MARCH 18TH, 2024. I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED ORDER AT 6:00 PM ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT ON ANY, UH, MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING. ROLL CALL NOW. CONDUCT A ROLL CALL MEMBERS FOR THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE JUST LIKE THIS. MARY SANDIS. HERE. DAVID BAKER. HERE. KIMBERLY RO. HERE. ERIC ADEEN. HERE. DEBBIE EK. HERE. STACEY WHITE. HERE. UH, ANTHONY LANGSTON. HERE. JOSE EZ. HERE. MELINDA ROGERS HERE LEFT THE RECORD SHOW. WE HAVE NINE BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND PRESENT. YAY. AND WE ARE READY TO PRE PROCEED. UM, AND NOW, MR. BAKER, WILL YOU GIVE THE IDENTIFICATION? YES. DEARLY. FATHER, WE COME TONIGHT SO GRATEFUL FOR ACTUALLY BEING CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE. HOPE US TO BE HONEST AND FAIR WITH THEM. LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE WEATHER AND THE CHANGES. LORD, JUST BE WITH US TONIGHT. WE HAVE THINGS YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. UM, LET'S SEE OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF MEETING GUIDELINES. IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT. I HOPE THEY DON'T USE IT. ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN TO EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. SPEAKERS SHOULD START BY GIVING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AT THE VERY START FOR THE RECORD AND IF NECESSARY, WHO YOU REPRESENT. STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM OF THE NIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 19TH, 2024. ANY, UH, MEMBER OF THE BOARD WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES ON NOW, EXCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 19TH, 2024 MEETING. AND IT'S IN BOLD, BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD, SIR. UH, MAKE A MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED TONIGHT. OKAY. MINUTES NEED TO BE AMENDED TO REMOVE ERIC SMITH'S NAME FROM THE LIST OF BOARD MEMBERS. THAT MOTION. THAT MOTION COVERS IT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE A [00:15:01] MOTION FOR MR. BAKER AND THE SECOND CAME FROM OVER HERE. I'M SORRY, MS. LANGSTON OR, OR KIMBERLY. OKAY. UH, YOU GUYS GOT THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES. RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ZERO [2. ZBA-24-02-0004 (Council District 5) – Variance to reduce the minimum side yard setback for a single-family residence permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 901 Hill Street, legally described as a portion of Lot 1, Block 213, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Six Residential District] TAKES US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR AGENDA. THESE TO BE CHANGED ON THE WEBSITE TOO. BY THE WAY. I NOTICED CITY WEBSITE STILL HAS MR. SMITH ON THERE. UM, BRINGS US THE PUBLIC HEARING CASE. WE HAVE TWO CASES BEFORE US. FIRST CASE FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZBA 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 4. IT'S ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA. THEY'RE RACING UP HERE. , GO AHEAD SIR. CHAIR BOARD S THE PLANNING DIVISION. THERE WE GO. ALWAYS TAKES A SECOND. I'LL BE PRESENTING BOTH AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT. STARTING OFF WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, ZBA 24 DASH ZERO TWO DASH 0 0 4 A VARIANCE FOR A SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 0 1 HILL STREET. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UH, A REDUCTION IN THAT SIDE YARD FROM 15 FEET TO SEVEN FEET. AND IT IS ZONE SINGLE FAMILY SIX RESIDENTIAL. ON THE SCREEN YOU'LL SEE AN AERIAL SHOT VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS A STREET THERE WHICH, UH, RESULTS IN THAT ADDITIONAL SIDE YARD REQUIREMENTS OF 15 FEET. AND STAFF DID DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, 8 3 7. UH, IT IS ZONED SF FOUR, BUT IT STILL REQUIRES 15 FEET. SO IT DOES NOT MEET THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENT AS WELL. ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AGAIN, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT STREET, UH, THEY'RE NEEDING 15 FEET, BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING SEVEN FEET TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE PROPERTY. IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR VARIANCE OF A SIDE YARD SETBACK AT 9 0 1 HILL STREET, UH, THERE WERE 30, 31 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. AND THERE IS NO HOA IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY LEFT. MR. BAKER? YES. UH, THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, THEY'RE ASKING FOR SEVEN FOOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES. THERE. IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE IS ABOUT SEVEN FOOT. IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT THE OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 15 FEET? YES. OKAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A RECORD WHAT THOSE OTHERS ARE? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF IT'S SEVEN FEET OR EIGHT FEET, BUT IT'S, YEAH, DEFINITELY NOT. 15 INCHES. IS THAT, IS EIGHT. ARE THOSE LOT LINES AND SHOWING AN EASEMENT ON LOT FOR 8 37? IS IT SHOWING A, WHAT ARE THOSE LOT LINES IS MY RECTANGLE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GRASS OVER THERE. JUST OVER THE LINE BECAUSE THAT'S THE EASEMENT. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. THAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THE LINE IS. THERE'S NO THERE. I SEE IT. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A, A LOT LINE SET UP, LIKE ON 8 37, BUT YOU SAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOT LINE IS. CHAIRPERSON. I, I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL VIEW AND MEASURING IT. IT'S LESS THAN SEVEN FEET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I ANSWERS THIS QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS STAFF TO MY LEFT? HOW ABOUT TO MY RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN MR. GARCIA? YES SIR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON DOWN AND START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ANYTHING PERTINENT WE NEED. I THINK IT'S PRETTY CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT YOU NEED TO DO HERE. RIGHT. OKAY. MY NAME IS JUAN GARCIA AND I'M AT, UH, 9 0 1 HILL STREET. OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO, INSTEAD OF THE 15, I'M TRYING TO GO WITH SEVEN. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING NOT THAT SMALL BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CORNER AND IT'S GONNA LOOK TA SO, UH, ON TOP OF THAT I WAS MEASURING FROM THE CURB TO THE, TO MY PROPERTY LINE. AND I STILL HAVE 17 FEET. SO I SAY IF I GIVE ANOTHER SEVEN, IF YOU GUYS LET ME, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE 24 FEET ON THE SIDE. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT UH, I'M TRYING TO SET THE, UH, GARAGE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THAT WAY IS NOT ON THE CORNER. SO. AND THEN MY, MY OUTSIDE CORNER, I REDUCE ABOUT SEVEN FEET ON THE FRONT AND THAT WAY I GIVE MORE VIEW TO FOR PEOPLE YOU KNOW WHO WHOEVER'S DRIVING THERE. GOTCHA. SO IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. OKAY. YOU, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED CURB 'CAUSE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION DURING BRIEFING. THERE'S ALREADY CURBS DRAINS. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S WATER DRAINS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT LOT DOWN THE STREET. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT ON THIS CASE? TO THE LEFT. TO THE RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION. WE [00:20:01] CLOSE AND APPROVE ZBA 24 0 2 0 0 0 4. I HAVE A MOTION. MR. BAKER, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A LOT OF SECONDS MS. CHENIER. WE WILL, WE'LL GO WITH YOURS. WE'LL CATCH YOU GUYS ON THE NEXT ONE. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE. A RIGHT. GO BUILD YOUR BUILDING SIR. THANK WE'RE GOOD. [3. ZBA-24-02-0005 (Council District 6) Special exception for a garage conversion, located at 1417 Alspaugh Ln., legally described as a portion of Lot 16, Florence Hill No.1 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-84] MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT CASE. FINAL CASE FOR CONSIDERATION. BOY, THAT WAS FAST. IS ZBA 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 5? GO AHEAD SIR. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR SALVADOR AGAIN, UH, WITH PLANNING STAFF PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION INTO A LIVING SPACE. CBA 24 DASH OH TWO DASH 0 0 5 AT 1417 OFFAL LANE. UH, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION BEING ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 84. AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE RULE SAYS IF THEY'RE WANTING A GARAGE CONVERSION INTO A LIVING SPACE, THERE MUST BE ONE LEGALLY CONVERTED WITHIN 300 FEET AS WELL AS TWO OFFSITE OFF STREET PARKING SPOTS. UH, AT MINIMUM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION DOES MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A LEGALLY, UH, GARAGE CONVERTED INTO A LIVING SPACE, UH, WITHIN 300 FEET. AND SO TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS THE REQUEST, THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED SIDE PLAN. AND IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, 38 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. ZERO TURN IN FAVOR OR A OPPOSED? THERE IS THAT AN HOA AND WE DO NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. AND THE ONLY THING IS, IF WE WERE TO VOTE AS A BOARD TO GRANT THIS, YOU WANT US TO USE THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BOLDED IN THAT LAST PAGE, CORRECT? SCROLL. THERE YOU GO. YOU GUYS WILL USE THAT LANGUAGE, RIGHT? UH, WE USUALLY INCLUDE IT IN OUR DOCUMENTATION, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY THE WHOLE, WE DON'T HAVE TO READ IT ALL OUT. RIGHT? RIGHT. IF SO, WE ON EVERYTHING, IF Y'ALL MOVE TO APPROVE WITH YOUR STANDARD CONDITIONS AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE THAT IT HAS TO MEET THIS GUIDELINE AND ALSO THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD WITHIN 90 DAYS OR GET THE PERMIT. OKAY. I KNOW IT'S PRETTY STANDARD VERBIAGE I SEE ON MOST OF THEM. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE GUIDELINE? THE GUIDELINE IS BASICALLY THE CITY PUTS DOWN RULES WHICH NUMBER ONE IS, AND SO THE BOARD SAYS NUMBER ONE AND THEN IT SAYS BY DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO IT'S, IF I MAKE A MOTION SAY APPROVED PER CITY'S DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT COVERS ALL THE RULES OF THE CITY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. DOES THAT BASICALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION PROPERLY? YEAH. THEY, THAT INCLUDES TWO THINGS. 'CAUSE THERE IS A TIME LIMIT THAT EXPIRES. SO WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR MOTIONS TO APPROVE TO BE THE ONES WITH STANDARD CONDITIONS. YOU CAN SAY I MOVE TO APPROVE, I MOVE TO APPROVE IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, OR I APPROVE TO, UM, MOVE TO APPROVE. AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, WE ALL INTERPRET THEM ALL THE SAME. OKAY. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M SORRY, MS. WHITE, WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT CODE THOUGH, IS, IS NOT A PROVISION TO REMOVE THAT GARAGE DOOR AND MATCH THE HOUSE? CORRECT. SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A PROVISION THAT THE BOARD HAS TO PROVIDE. CORRECT. SORRY, TO WHAT WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER MATCHING THAT HOUSE. IN OTHER WORDS, NO GARAGE DOOR MM-HMM . FOR THE CONVERSION. THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE UNIFIED CODE. CORRECT. SO YEAH, THEY, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY REQUESTING INTO A LIVING SPACE. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO REMOVE THAT DOOR COMPLETELY AND PUT SOME KIND OF WALL THERE. UH, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY QUESTION. WE'RE TRYING TO DO A WHOLE NOTHER INTERPRETATION 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THOSE CASES. RIGHT. THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF YOU, IF WE APPROVED IT, CAN WE PUT A STIPULATION IN THERE? SO I, I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANT TO GUARANTEE THAT SOMETHING IS A REQUIREMENT, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION. OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY REMOVE THE DOOR AND BRICK THE FACADE TO MATCH YEAH. MAKE IT BRICK LIKE THE HOUSE YEAH. THE EXTERIOR. THEN I WOULD MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION AND THAT'LL BE ADDED INTO THE ORDER. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS IN ANY OF THE OTHER CODE, THAT PROVISION WILL APPLY TO THE EXCEPTION. OKAY. PERFECT. AND, AND THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT I HAVE IS IF WE MAKE THAT A STIPULATION ON THE RULE THAT GLARINGLY TO MS. ROGERS' POINT EARLIER MAKES IT VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOU GOT A DRIVEWAY TO NOWHERE AND YOU GOT A BRICK WALL DRIVE RIGHT UP TO A BRICK WALL. AND THAT MAY CHANGE THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE THAN JUST LEAVING THE DOOR AND BUILDING IT IN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THAT DOOR AND THEY CAN TEAR THE LIVING SPACE OUT WHEN THE NEXT OWNERS COME IN. AND I MEAN IT MAY AND THAT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU'RE PUT A STIPULATION IN. THAT WAS OUR QUESTION. CAN WE NOT MAKE THAT A HARD REQUIREMENT? BUT, YOU KNOW, [00:25:01] 'CAUSE WHAT IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE DOOR? SO THEY'RE NOT HERE FOR US TO ASK, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T WORK IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE GARAGE DOOR TO REMAIN IF IT WAS GONNA TURN INTO LIVING SPACE. AND THAT'S PART OF THIS CONDITION HERE THAT THEY HAD TO ABIDE TO THE ICC CODES. AND THEY ALSO DO, UH, AN ADDITIONAL REVIEW AFTER, IF YOU WERE TO GRANT THE EXCEPTION, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT IS DEEMABLE A DEEMABLE LIVING SPACE. ALTHOUGH WHAT WHAT SOME PEOPLE DO IS THEY JUST BUILD A STUD WALL BEHIND THE GARAGE DOOR EXACTLY. AND LEAVE THE GARAGE DOOR THERE SO THAT IT HAS STILL HAS THE AESTHETIC OF A GARAGE DOOR AND A DRIVEWAY AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF WITHOUT IT HAVING TO, SO MR. BAKER DID, OH, I'M SORRY MR. WELL NO LET YOU FINISH THERE. I BELIEVE AS THE ZBA BOARD, WE CAN ACTUALLY APPROVE IT TO THIS STILL LOOK LIKE A GARAGE DOOR AND HAVE TO CHANGE THE SPACE INSIDE. WE DO HAVE THE POWER FOR ME. I'M COMFORTABLE GOING WITH THE STAFFS WITH THE BOILER AND LETTING UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. AGAIN, ALL WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS COVER DOWN DEPARTMENT IS GONNA MAKE THEM CONVERT THAT OVER. NOW IF THEY'RE GONNA CONVERT THAT OVER AND IT'S DONE WITH SOME KIND OF PLY BOARD 'CAUSE THEY ALLOW 'EM TO NOT MAKE IT ALL BRICK, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY CHANGING. NOT ONLY DOES IT NOW LOOK LIKE IT'S DRIVING INTO A WALL, BUT THAT WALL DOESN'T EVEN MATCH THE HOUSE. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I AGREE. I THINK WE'RE CHASING RABBITS THOUGH. I WANNA, I WANNA LET THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF HANDLE THIS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA PUT FOUR BY PLYWOOD UP AND PASS STAFF. MAYBE IT'S BEST IF WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE CLIENT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN. SOMEBODY CAN MAKE THAT MOTION. SEE IF IT GETS A SECOND SEAT TABLE. MY MY CONCERN WITH THE GARAGE DOOR REMAINING IS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, GREAT, I GET TO CON I GET TO CONVERT MY GARAGE. WE DON'T HAVE TO BOARD IT UP, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT BRICK OVER IT. UM, KINDA SITS A PRECEDENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONCERNS ME. WE BACK THE PRESIDENT'S ARGUMENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T, EVEN IF PEOPLE SAY THAT THEM FILLING OUT A PERMIT AND GOING BEFORE THE CITY, WE'LL SEE THOSE CASES TOO. AND I STILL THINK THAT AS, AND THAT'S OKAY IF SHE WAS SAYING EARLIER THERE WERE 38, 38 NOTICES SENT OUT, IF YOU WERE MY NEIGHBOR AND I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT, I GUARANTEE YOU I WILL TAKE ACTION. MM-HMM . I WOULDN'T SIT ON MY DUFF AND DO NOTHING OUT OF 38 PEOPLE, THAT'S GONNA BE PEOPLE. NOBODY RETURNED NOTHING. RIGHT. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING BUT YOU. SO IT'S UP TO US. PROBABLY THEY'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT. SO YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S NOT A SHABBY NEIGHBORHOOD. NO, NO IT'S NOT. I WOULD THINK THE PEOPLE THERE WOULD DO A NICE JOB IN THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SHACK. SO LET'S GET BACK TO A POINT WITH SALVATORE HERE. I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OPINIONS AND BEFORE WE VOTE WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION OR ONCE WE'RE DO JUST GOTTA GET, I KNOW, BUT WE'RE JUST, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING FAR FIELD LIKE HOW WE CAN TWEAK AND, AND, AND MANIFEST THIS THING AND WHERE THIS STAFF OR JUST TRUST THE PEOPLE OR WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LEAVE THE OWNER BOTH TURNS. RIGHT. AND I WOULD SAY, AND LEGAL FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK WE ARE RESTRICTED IN WHAT WE CAN REGULARLY IN TERMS OF MASONRY. UM, SO I JUST, THERE'S STATE, STATE REGULATIONS I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS MATERIALS THAT WE CAN AND CAN'T MAKE A STIPULATION SAY BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN. I'M SORRY, YOU SAID YOU WERE LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN REGULATE ON MASONRY? YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES. I THINK. OKAY. THERE ARE LIMITATIONS STATE POLICY SINCE THE LAST TIME. OKAY. HOW WE, YEAH. COUNSEL, IS THAT A FAIR REPRESENTATION? THERE ARE STATE REGULATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T PUT IN ORDINANCES. WELL TO MATERIALS. THIS, THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE LAW REGULATIONS. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE ME TO RESEARCH IT. UM, BUT IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIATION FROM OUR, THIS IS NOT RIGHT AMENDING OUR ORDINANCES, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIATION OF IT. MM-HMM . SO THE INTERPRETATION IS VARY. THIS IS A VARIATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IN THIS CASE DOESN'T OPEN UP THE FLOODGATES FOR EVERYBODY ELSE JUST TO GO WILLY-NILLY. THEY'D STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCESS AND EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY HAS TO BE DECIDED ON UNTIL THERE'S A CHANGE AT A LEVEL HIGHER THAN US FOR THE, THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. WELL ONCE YOU HAVE ONE, THEY CAN PUT ONE IN NEXT DOOR NEXT WEEK. MM-HMM . IF, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT ON THE CONDITION THAT IF THE GARAGE DOOR IS REMOVED MM-HMM . THE FACADE MUST MATCH THE EXTERIOR EXISTING YES. OF THE HOME. IF IT IS, IF IT IS REMOVED, THAT'S NOT BAD. I BELIEVE THAT IS A MOTION THAT YOU COULD MAKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S, [00:30:01] THAT'S GOOD. I LIKE THAT. QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION POINTS ON THAT. WILL DRAWINGS BE PROVIDED THE CITY, THE CITY WILL DO ALL THAT? YEAH. 'CAUSE THE, THE BOLDED COPY HERE, THEY STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH THE CITY AND DO THE PERMITS AND PLAY, PLAY BY THE GAME. THEY WE'RE JUST SAYING YES OR NO. CAN THEY CONVERT A GARAGE AND TO WHATEVER LIMIT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE VERBIAGE OF IF THEY CHOOSE TO REMOVE IT, WHAT THE HECK HAPPENS WITH THAT DOOR GARAGE. IF THE GARAGE DOOR IS REMOVED, THE FACADE MUST MATCH. DO NOT RECOMMEND IT TOO MUCH. YEAH. HAVE, HAVE MATCHING THE FACADE OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE OR HOWEVER SHE SAID THE FACADE AND MATERIALS. YEAH, MATERIALS IN THE, BEFORE SALVADOR PASSES OUT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. HE'S BEING VERY PATIENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SALVADOR. NO, NO PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT THEN SEEING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT'S NOT PAID OR ON THE BOARD, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PLAY THE GAME. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK AGAINST THIS CASE? IF NOT, NOW WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS. WHICH COUNCIL? NOW WE CAN DO THAT DISCUSSION AND WE JUST PRETTY MUCH DID. CAN I MAKE A MOTION? ERIC, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZBA 24 0 2 0 0 0 5, THAT WE APPROVE THE MOTION WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IF THE GARAGE DOOR IS REMOVED, THE MATERIALS AND FACADE MUST MATCH THE, UH, FRONT EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. I SECOND I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. INE. A SECOND FOR MS. HUBACHEK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE. AYE. UP I OPPOSED. AYE. SO BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ONE, THE MOTION DOES PASS. MOVING ON. NEXT ITEM ON THE JUNE CITIZEN COMMENTS. AGAIN, SINCE I SEE A DEARTH OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY WAIVE CITIZEN COMMENTS UNLESS, UH, MS. BULLS REALLY UPSET, WANTS TO PROTEST SOMETHING. THIS DOES CONCLUDE OUR AGENDA. WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES TO GET YOUR DAUGHTER. HOW ABOUT AND WHEN IS THE PLAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.