Mar 11, 2024 Planning &amp; Zoning 031124

THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.

DEAR LORD.

THANK YOU FOR THE GOODNESS AND MERCY THAT WE RECEIVE EVERY DAY.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS TOPICS THAT WILL MOVE THIS WONDERFUL CITY FORWARD.

COME AND TAKE CENTER STAGE IN THIS MEETING, GIVE US NEW IDEAS TO BE ABLE TO WORK SHOULDER TO SHOULDER.

GRANT US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THIS MEETING A PRODUCTIVE ONE.

WE START WITH YOU AND WE END WITH YOU.

THANK YOU LORD.

AMEN.

ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE MISSION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.

THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.

AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO.

MADAM CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMISSIONER MADDEN, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE, UM, THAT WE APPROVE, UH, MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 26TH P AND D MEETING.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COCA.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

COMMISSIONER

[PUBLIC HEARING POSTPONEMENT, RECESS, CONTINUATIONS]

MADDEN.

THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.

I MOVE TO, UM, POSTPONE ITEMS SUP DASH 24 DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 3 AND THEN ITEM THREE SUP DASH TWO FOUR DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 2 UNTIL THE MARCH 25TH MEETING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE ITEMS TWO AND THREE BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND THEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION

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PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[Items 4 & 5]

NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

WE'LL BE HEARING THE NEXT TWO ITEMS TOGETHER.

SO ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, THEY'RE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONING CHANGE FOR 8 2 1 MACARTHUR BOULEVARD.

SO THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CPA 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 3.

SO THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO UPDATE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO CURRENTLY THAT AREA IS DESIGNATED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, A PORTION OF THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL.

SO THEY'RE AGAIN, JUST GOING TO BE REZONING THAT SMALL SLIVER TO COMMERCIAL.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO UPDATE THE FLUME FOR THE WHOLE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE TO LINE WITH THAT PROPOSED ZONING.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THAT ZONING WE LOOKED AT EARLIER.

STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST SINCE THE PROPOSED USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FLUME.

HOWEVER, STAFF DOES NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USES OF THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES.

SO MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE ZERO N 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 2.

THIS IS THE ZONING CHANGE PORTION.

AGAIN, THIS IS ON 0.6 ACRES, 8 2 1 MACARTHUR.

SO AGAIN, THREE OF THE LOTS ARE ALREADY CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL.

IT'S JUST THAT SMALL SLIVER OF THAT SOUTHERN ABUTTING TRACK.

IT'S REALLY JUST CLEAN UP TO GET ALL THAT COMMERCIAL SO THE APPLICANT CAN COME THROUGH AND PURSUE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ONCE IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL.

AND AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE SOUTH IS A CEMETERY TO THE NORTH OR INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, STAFF REALLY DOES NOT SEE THAT EVER BECOMING A RESIDENCE, UM, AT ANY TIME SOON.

SO THE HATCH PORTION IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CHANGING.

SO THIS IS THE CURRENT LAW.

AGAIN, IT HAS A HISTORY OF MORE INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.

THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT WAS PROVIDED.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.

THE ONLY PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WOULD CHANGE IS AGAIN THAT SOUTHERN ADJACENT, UH, TRACT PORTION OF IT THAT ABUTS THE CEMETERY.

THAT LAND HAS, HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED FOR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES AND WOULD LIKELY NEVER DEVELOP AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST SINCE THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FLUME.

HOWEVER, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER MADDEN REAL QUICK.

UM, SO THE PORTION OF THE LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY SF, ONE THAT'S ADJACENT IN BETWEEN THE TWO SPOTS MM-HMM .

THE SUBJECT MATTER THERE.

HOW CLOSE ARE THE, THE CEMETERY? IT'S A BUDDING.

IT'S A BUDDING.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING FENCE THERE.

UM, BUT IT IS PRETTY CLOSE.

YEAH, BUT THE CEMETERY'S BEEN THERE SINCE LIKE THE SEVENTIES.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, I CAN'T TELL YOU.

I COULD, I COULD LOOK IT UP, BUT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AS WELL.

GOOD.

MR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SPEAKER CARDS? UH, I HAVE TWO, UH, MADAM CHAIR, UH, ONE FROM MIGUEL EVADO VELAZQUEZ, UH, WHO DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT JUST WANTED TO INDICATE HIS SUPPORT.

UH, SECOND ONE FROM MONA GOMEZ WHO ALSO DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTED TO, UH, RECORD HER SUPPORT.

I THINK WE DO HAVE A QUESTION, AT LEAST ONE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO WE'D LIKE FOR THEM, THE APPLICANT TO COME UP.

IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

UM, I'M CURRENTLY RENTING THAT PROPERTY.

THERE.

YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? 8 21 MACARTHUR BOULEVARD.

IN ? YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU WANNA ASK, ASK YOUR QUESTIONS FIRST.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

SO HOW CLOSE ARE, ARE THERE GRAVES LIKE THERE'S NO GRAVE IN THE AREA THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVERT TO? NO, MA'AM.

NO, ACTUALLY.

IS THERE THE FENCE OR ANYTHING BETWEEN? YEAH, THERE'S A FENCE.

UM, IT'S JUST A WIRE FENCE THAT'S DIVIDING THE PROPERTY.

UM, BUT MY PROPERTY SITS A LITTLE BIT BELOW UHHUH , SO THE CEMETERY SITS ABOUT FOUR FEET UP, SO THERE'S NO WAY TO ACTUALLY DRIVE INTO THE CEMETERY.

I SEE.

SO THE CEMETERY LAND'S A LITTLE HIGHER? YES, MA'AM.

AND THEN YOUR LAND IS LOWER? YES, MA'AM.

SO THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT WE'RE ACCIDENTALLY TURNING PART OF THE CEMETERY, NO WAY TO GET INTO INDUSTRIAL? NO, MA'AM.

FANTASTIC.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVER, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS? NO.

NO, NOT AT ALL.

UM, I SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTS IN FRONT, WHICH ARE REALLY THE, THE ONLY ONES THAT, UM, I COULD SEE.

UM, THE PROPERTY BEHIND ME IS A VACANT PROPERTY.

AND I OWN THAT PROPERTY, SO I DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY BEHIND.

NEXT DOOR IS THE U-HAUL PARKING LOT, SO IT'S JUST USED FOR, UM, PARKING STORAGE.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE CEMETERY.

SO BASICALLY, SO I'M PRETTY ISOLATED.

SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AT, AT THAT FACILITY? UM, ABOUT A YEAR.

UM, THE OWNER BUSINESS THERE BEFORE? YES, MA'AM.

YES MA'AM.

SO, SO FAR, SO GOOD.

AND, AND PRIOR TO THAT, DO YOU KNOW WHO WAS THERE? WAS THERE, UH, A,

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SO IT, MACHINERY, IT'S BUSINESS, SAME BUSINESS, BUT JUST CHANGING OWNERSHIP? EXACTLY.

SO THAT BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN, SO I'M RENTING OUT, UH, FROM THE CURRENT OWNER NOW OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT, THAT BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 10, 15 YEARS? YES, MA'AM.

CORRECT.

SO THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW? NO.

NOT AT ALL.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.

I JUST SORT OF, THAT WAS ON MY ONLY QUESTION, WHAT'S AT THE COMMUNITY WAS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND SO THE, THE, THE, THE CEMETERY IS THERE, UM, ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH THE CEMETERY, THE FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT, THAT OWNED THE CEMETERY, THEY'RE ANY INTERACTIONS AT ALL OR? IT'S, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY, THE OWNER TELLS ME THAT HE DOESN'T OWN THE CEMETERY, BUT UM, IT COMES UP UNDER HIS NAME.

UM, SO IT'S KIND OF ODD.

UM, YEAH, SEE, HE, I'VE TALKED TO HIM AND I TOLD HIM, I SHOWED HIM THE PICTURE WHERE, IF YOU LOOK UP ON THE CITY WEBSITE MM-HMM .

IT SHOWS OWNERSHIP BY CARLOS, ROBERTO RAMIREZ.

UM, HE TELLS ME HE, HE'S NEVER OWNED THAT CEMETERY.

WELL, UH, UH, RASHAD, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT OR, UH, THERE'S MAYBE A DISCREPANCY IN THE, UH, GIS MM-HMM .

UM, I JUST PULLED IT UP MYSELF, BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH CEMETERIES, A LOT OF TIMES OWNERSHIP IS HARD TO FIND WHO ACTUALLY OWNS IT.

USUALLY IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST MAINTAINING IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MORE OF IGNORING, THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE FROM CODE COMPLIANCE PRETTY MUCH.

WELL, NOT, NOT HIDE , IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN SO LONG.

CEMETERIES DATE BACK YEARS MM-HMM .

AND MANY TIMES WHOEVER WAS MAINTAINING IT OR OWNED THE PROPERTY NO LONGER DOES, AND SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TAKES OVER AND MAINTAINS IT.

SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT.

BUT, UM, I THINK SPECIFICALLY THIS, THIS REQUEST IS JUST FOR THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY.

I I JUST THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT IS A CONCERN TO ME THAT A CEMETERY IS A SACRED GROUND.

AND, AND I WOULD THINK THAT IT, I GUESS THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, I'M ASSUMING, AND, AND IT GET SERVICED ALL THE TIME.

SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

THEY GET SERVICED.

I, I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY PAY SOMEBODY, LIKE A FULL TEAM TO GO OUT THERE AND CUT THE GRASS AND MM-HMM .

DO MAINTENANCE ON IT.

UM, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD A COMPLAINT FROM ANYBODY.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ISOLATED.

EVERYTHING'S GATED.

SO I'M IN THAT PROPERTY AND I DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY.

ALL THE TRUCKS STAY INSIDE THE PROPERTY.

UM, NOTHING EVER.

MM-HMM.

IF IT'S COMING IN, IT'S MM-HMM .

JUST COMING IN THROUGH THE STREET, YOU KNOW, GO BACK.

SO, SO IS YOUR INTENT, YOUR INTENT TO IT WITH, WITH THAT OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT IS YOUR INTENT TO DO WITH THAT? SO IT'S ALREADY ALL PART OF THE SAME PROPERTY.

SO IT'S ALL BEEN USED AS THE SAME LOT YOU JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT? YES, MA'AM.

UH, JUST TRYING TO CONVERT IT TO COMMERCIAL.

JUST, UM, I, I NEVER KNEW IT WAS RESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY.

UM, SO THE ZONING'S JUST THE ISSUE HERE, IN ORDER FOR HIM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPOSED UC WANTS TO DO, HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

AND FROM A STAFF'S VIEWPOINT, THE SCREENING WALL IS ALREADY THERE.

THERE'S REALLY NO MEANS FOR THEM TO ACCESS OR EXPAND INTO THE, THE CEMETERY AREA.

AND IF THAT DID HAPPEN THOUGH, WE HAVE CODE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE? THIS, UH, BELONGS TO COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ AND HE'S NOT HERE.

UM, DOES ANYBODY OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MATTIN.

ALRIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR CPA TWO FOUR DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 3 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR 8 21 MACARTHUR.

AND CAN I DO 'EM TOGETHER? AND, UM, NUMBER FIVE ZERO N DASH 24 DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 0 2 ZONING CHANGE FOR 8 21 MACARTHUR AND, UH, APPROVE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM, UH, FOUR AND ITEM FIVE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COCA.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CALCULATE, UH, NOT BASED ON, UH, VALUE OF THE JOB.

[6. TAM-24-01-0002 - Text Amendment - Article 22: Fee Schedule. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, Amending Article 22: Fee Schedule of the Unified Development Code to amend and replace Sec. 22.2.25 regarding Engineering review fees and to amend and replace Sec. 22.2.27 regarding Engineering inspection fees; Repealing all Ordinances or Parts of Ordinances in Conflict Herewith; Containing a Savings Clause and a Severability Clause; and to become effective upon its passage and approval]

CASE.

THIS NEXT ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 22 FEE SCHEDULE, UH, IN ORDER TO UPDATE OUR ENGINEERING REVIEW AND INSPECTION FEES OR, THERE WE GO.

SO THE FIRST COMPONENT IS IMPLEMENTING ENGINEERING REVIEW FEES.

UH, CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES NOT CHARGE ENGINEERING REVIEW FEES.

AND SO THE PROPOSED FEES ARE BASED ON THE STAFF TIME THAT WENT INTO REVIEWING THOSE TYPES OF PLANS, AS WELL AS A SURVEY OF BENCHMARK CITIES.

AND THEN THE SECOND IS TO AMEND OUR INSPECTION FEES TO COMPLY WITH A RECENT HOUSE BILL 34 92.

CURRENTLY WE CHARGE, UH, BASED ON THE COST OF WORK.

THIS HOUSE BILL SAYS WE CAN NO LONGER DO THAT.

UM, SO WE ARE UPDATING THOSE FEES TO

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UM, SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ENGINEERING PLAN, REVIEW FEES AND INSPECTION FEES.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AND WE DO HAVE ENGINEERING HERE FOR ANY, UH, ENGINEERING RELATED QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH ON THIS? I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THE BRIEFING.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAPMAN? YES, MA'AM.

THE ONLY THING IS THAT I JUST WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE WHAT THE CO THE, THE PRICE SPREAD WAS WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

I'LL RELAY THAT TO ENGINEERING AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE THAT READY FOR COUNCIL IF Y'ALL APPROVE IT.

UM, SAVANNAH, WILL THEY REVIEW THIS ANNUALLY? HOW OFTEN WILL IT BE REVIEWED TO SEE IF WE SHOULD IN FACT INCREASE? SO THAT VARIES FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT.

TYPICALLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF FOLDED INTO OUR BUDGETING REVIEW PROCESS.

SO PLANNING WILL DO SPOT CHECKS ON OUR PLAN REVIEW FEES, AND THOSE ARE, ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CITIES, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF MONITOR COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

SO TWO QUESTIONS.

DID WE FIND ANY CITIES THAT NEARBY THAT DON'T OFFER OR DON'T HAVE CIVIL PLAN REVIEW FEES? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO MATT WHO DID THE RESEARCH FOR THIS.

OH, OH, I DIDN'T DO THE BENCHMARKING.

ENGINEERING DID THE BENCHMARKING, SO I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.

IS ENGINEERING OKAY? YES.

RYAN IS HERE.

, SORRY.

AND THEN THE THANK YOU SAVANNAH.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION TO THE ROOM WOULD BE, IN ADDITION TO THIS IS DO WE FEEL THAT THIS WOULD'VE BE A DETERRENT TO A, TO A DEVELOPER? I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL IT WOULD BE A DETERRENT 'CAUSE IT IS A TYPICAL FEE, PRETTY STANDARD.

UM, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING NEW FOR GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO I'LL TRY TO HELP WITH THE, THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, I MAY HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE CER ON THE SPECIFIC DETAILS, BUT WE DID CHECK WITH THE CITIES THAT WERE NEARBY WITH SIMILAR SIZE MM-HMM .

AND TO MY MEMORY, MOST OF THEM DO HAVE A PLAN REVIEW FEE.

I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF AN ANOMALY WITH NOT CHARGING, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF ME TO SAY LIKE, WHICH CITIES AND I, I'VE TAKEN A NOTE TO TRY TO HAVE THAT READY IN A TABULAR FORMAT TO SHOW WHAT OTHER CITIES CHARGE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BRING CLOSURE TO THAT BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASING IT ON, BUT THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION TO ADDRESS THAT.

FOR THE MOST PART.

I THINK WHAT RYAN WAS MENTIONING IS THIS WAS THE, THE FEES ARE BASED ON STAFF TIME.

SO THAT IN ITSELF IS LIKE JUST COVERING ADMIN COSTS.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT.

SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION ABOUT IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST THINK FOR DOCUMENTATION'S SAKE, I AGREE.

THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT AS A BACKUP.

DEFINITELY.

JUST TO ECHO WHAT RASHAD SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS LOOK AT OUR HISTORIC PLAN REVIEWS, LIKE WHAT THE SIZES WERE, HOW MUCH TIME IT TOOK US TO REVIEW EACH ONE.

AND THAT FACTORED INTO THE, TO THOSE VALUES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

WAYNE.

IF 1, 1, 1 MORE QUESTION.

SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

MR. CHAPMAN, HOW QUICKLY WOULD IT TAKE TO, INTO EFFECT TO, TO START CHARGING? EXACTLY.

SO ONCE IT, ONCE IT GETS PASSED BY, IF IT GETS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD WORK WITH IT DEPARTMENT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR, OUR PERMIT SYSTEM.

SO THAT COULD TAKE, UM, A FEW WEEKS TO IMPLEMENT.

SO JUNE 1ST MAYBE.

SO THEORETICALLY WE COULD START CHARGING RIGHT AWAY, BUT LOGISTICALLY IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US, YEAH.

MAYBE TILL JUNE 1ST, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

YES.

I WAS THINKING YOU WERE GONNA SAY RETRO CAN'T GO RETRO BACK TO JANUARY ON THAT ONE.

RETROACTIVE.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

UH, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS, UH, PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

SO WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ISSUE? WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO DO IT? FOR ME TO DO IT? OKAY.

I'D LIKE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM SIX T AM 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 2, TEXT AMENDMENT, ARTICLE 22 FEE SCHEDULE, AND, UH, APPROVE, UM, AS PER UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND, SIR, HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE MYSELF.

CHERYL SMITH APPROVE ITEM SIX AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KOCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ITEM PASSES.

WELL, WE HAVE ITEM.

THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE.

WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FOUR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

4, 4, 5.

THE ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

, THANK YOU.

UH,

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UM, AT 7:01 PM THE UH, MEETING IS ADJOURNED.