[CC Briefings 03052024]
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EVENING, FIRST MEETING OF MARCH IS CRAZY STAFF PRESENTATIONS.SIR JUNETEENTH, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL.
THE MAYOR HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ME ABOUT THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY, AND WE DID.
WE WENT BACK AND WE DID AN EVALUATION OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND NOT ONLY OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AS TO HOW MANY HOLIDAYS THERE WERE.
MOST CITIES HAVE 11 OR 12, THEREFORE ABOUT 67% OF THE CITIES NEIGHBORING CITIES ALSO HAVE JUNETEENTH AS ONE OF THEIR HOLIDAYS.
AND WITH IT NOW BEING A NATIONAL HOLIDAY, THE MAYOR FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING FORTH TO THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MAKE JUNETEENTH A HOLIDAY.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT ANY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT.
THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE IN, UM, IN, IN NORTHERN WASHINGTON.
AND MISSION WOULD'VE BEEN THE FIRST.
I WOULDN'T HAVE MIND BEING THE OUTLIER, BUT THE DATA DOES SHOW THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LAGGING BEHIND THE, AND, UM, I, I TOLD BILL, GET US SOME STUFF.
'CAUSE I KNEW THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO HAVE THE DATA BEHIND THE SUPPORT IT.
AND I THINK ESPECIALLY SINCE, UM, AS WE SAID, IT HAPPENED HERE IN TEXAS AND SOMEBODY SPEARHEADED AS A NEIGHBOR OF OURS.
SO WHAT WAS THE DATA THAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM YESTERDAY THAT YOU ASKED A FEW YEARS AGO? THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY AS MANY CITIES DOING JUNETEENTH.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA, I LOVE BEING THE FIRST AT DOING THINGS INSTEAD OF COPYING OFF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
SO, BECAUSE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT NOW, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE TO MAKE IT A HOLIDAY.
I'M NOT WHETHER I'M COMFORTABLE.
UH, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THREE YEARS AGO? I DID.
WHAT BROUGHT UP THREE YEARS AGO? I THINK ONE BROUGHT IT FORWARD.
ARE ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT NOW? I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA ON STAFF THAT CAN OKAY.
UH, THE DATA SHOWED THAT 67% OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE DOING IT.
BUT I THINK HERE, REGARDLESS OF THE DATA, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID.
I WOULD ASK THE STAFF TO SHOW US THE DATA JUST TO SEE, ARE WE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DOING 11? I WANNA SEE HOW MANY HOLIDAYS OTHER CITIES GAVE.
ARE WE DOING 12 AND EVERYBODY ELSE DOING NINE, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE DATE ON THE SCREEN.
AND SOME ARE DOING 12, 13, AND 11 ARE THE PROMINENT, WE ARE DOING 10.
WE DO HAVE ALLEN AND CARROLLTON THAT ARE ONLY DOING NINE AS WELL AS PLANO.
AND YOUR GUESSES EQUATE TO ABOUT 61%, 56 7% OF THE CITIES THAT ARE HAVING THE JUNETEENTH OFFICE.
I PROPOSE WE MOVE FORWARD IN AGREEMENT.
WE MAY NOT MOVE THE FIRST ONE.
I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE WEREN'T THE FIRST ONES, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT IT NOW.
THAT BE OKAY? THAT WAS THE FIRST DAY.
SO WE DO THE SAME THING FOR SINGLE MILE OR THIS EPTEMBER.
WE CAN BE THE FIRST DO ALL IT TAKES IS A MOTION AND FIVE VOTES.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TONIGHT.
IS IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? YES, SIR.
INFRASTRUCTURE, MASTER PLAN, MEGAN? YEAH.
WHY WE SKIP TO THAT ONE? MANY APPLICATIONS, DAVE.
UM, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ON INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER PLAN CCDC AND I AND STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON CREATING A HANDOUT AND A, UM, A KIND OF A LEAVE BEHIND FOR YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THOSE THAT ARE ATTENDING.
I GOT, I'M THROWN OFF BY THE WHOLE MULTIFAMILY RATES OUT OF ORDER.
SO, UM, JUST DOING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
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UM, THINGS THAT WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO PURSUE GRANTS ON.WE, WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT TYPES OF DATA THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THE, OUR, OUR, UH, FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES WOULD WANT TO SEE.
WE CREATED TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.
ONE IS THE, UM, LARGER PACKET THAT'S GOT THE MORE DETAILED, UM, INFORMATION.
IT'S ALL THE SAME INFORMATION.
IT'S JUST PACKAGED DIFFERENTLY.
SO ONE IS A, A, UM, WE, WE WERE CALLING IT A LEAVE BEHIND.
SO IT'S THE THING THAT WHENEVER THEY SAY, I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION, WELL, HERE YOU GO.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE IN THE ELEVATOR, YOU'VE GOT THE ONE PAGER FRONT AND BACK WHERE YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO 'EM, TALK TO THEM AND SAY, HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE A MAJOR PRIORITY.
SO CCDC HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
UH, THE CHAIR I THINK PROBABLY HAS A COUPLE THINGS HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK.
THAT WAS THE LAST THING THAT CCDC GAVE THIS DIRECTION ON, WAS TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL TONIGHT.
GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND THEN WE WILL FINALIZE, UPDATE AS Y'ALL.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU STAFF FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR WORKING WITH US TO SHARE, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR IDEAS AND OUR EXPERIENCE WHEN WE GO TO WASHINGTON TO MEET WITH OUR CONGRESS MEMBERS.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DO GO AND MAYOR PROTEST, LOPEZ WILL GET MORE IN DEPTH IN THIS.
WHEN WE DO GO, WE EITHER MEET WITH THEM VERY SHORT TIME OR WE'RE WALKING WITH THEM, OR WE'RE IN THE ELEVATOR, OR WAIT, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO COME OUT OF A VOTE OR GOING INTO VOTE.
UH, SO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON LAST YEAR CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF GIVING THEM A ONE PAGER THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GRAB THEIR INTEREST OF WHAT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHAT OUR MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE FOR GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE A, A START OFF THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CARRY THE CONVERSATION AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THROUGHOUT GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND IF YOU SEE THIS, THIS PROJECT'S THROUGHOUT THE NORTH SIDE ALL THE WAY INTO THE, UH, SOUTH AT 2 87, YOU KNOW, UM, NOW CAN WE, WE'RE STILL CHANGING, UH, SOME THINGS FOR THE FINAL DRAFT THAT WE WANT TO GIVE AT LEAST EACH CONGRESS MEMBER, SEVERAL COPIES FOR NOT ONLY THEM TO REVIEW, BUT ALSO FOR THEIR STAFF.
UM, MAYOR
I MEAN, FOR THOSE THAT ARE ATTENDING NEXT WEEK, I MEAN, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH WORK ON THEIR SCHEDULE, RIGHT? SO IF WE GOT FOUR MINUTE, ANY MINUTE, AND IT COULD BE CANCELED AND SHIFTED AROUND.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOOT EVERYTHING FOR WEDNESDAY, BUT JUST WITH THEIR CALENDARS AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY GOT BOOKED UP, A LOT OF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON TUESDAY NOW.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO AT LEAST HAVE A DELEGATION TO GO TO THOSE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONFERENCE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE, OKAY, LET'S HAVE A, SOME OF OUR DELEGATION GO BECAUSE THEY MADE THE TIME ON THE CALENDAR TO BE THERE.
SO THAT'S PART THE EFFORT ON THAT PART.
SO IS THIS LIKE A, SO THIS ISN'T, RA IS SAYING IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES US MONEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND IT ON.
IS THIS WHAT THIS IS? IT'S NOT A CATCH FOR ALL.
BUT, BUT THIS IS TELLING THEM, THIS IS, YEAH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE HAVE DIFFERENT POCKETS OF MONEY.
A LOT OF THESE POCKETS OF MONEY COME FROM TEXAS AND WE'LL WANT TO DO A REFRESH WHEN THEY GET IT.
SO FOR NEXT YEAR, THIS ISN'T OUR MONEY RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET IT GOING.
THE PROJECTS, FOR INSTANCE, IN OUR DISTRICT, FIBER OPTICS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOW INCOME DISTRICTS.
WHEN WE HAD THAT FREEZE, WE HAD A LOT OF FAMILIES GOING UP TO, YOU KNOW, STARBUCKS OR MCDONALD'S JUST TO GET INTERNET SERVICE.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING SAYING TO BRING THIS TO OUR COMMUNITY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR PRIVATE OPTICS FOR, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED THIS.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A POPULATION THAT CAN AFFORD THE AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, HOUSE RIGHT NOW THAT'S 300,000.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S SO MANY BUCKETS OUT THERE THAT IS PART OF THE $1.2 TRILLION THAT WE WANT TO DO A DISCOVERY OF.
HOW MANY, MANY CAN WE GET INTO? YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT THREE OR FOUR YEARS FIGHTING FOR THIS AND THIS IS GONNA GIVE YOU A TOOL TO BRING IT TO THE TABLE.
AND THOSE, TO THIS POINT, THERE'S NOT BEEN MUCH, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH CONGRESS.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE TELLING US A LOT OF THIS MONEY HAS TO GO THROUGH AUSTIN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS GREAT TO GET AHEAD OF IT AND USE THIS IN CONGRESS.
'CAUSE CONGRESS DOES HAVE SOME OF THE MONEY, A LOT OF, ESPECIALLY THE ROAD BRIDGES AND STUFF FILTERS DOWN THROUGH AUSTIN, UP THROUGH T LAW.
SO THIS IS A GREAT TOOL TO HAVE READY FOR US WHEN THEY'RE IN SESSION, NEXT SESSION AND WE ALL GO DOWN THERE TO, OH, WE CAN'T JUST GO GIMME SOME MONEY.
SOME OF THEM DO COMMIT AND THEY SAY, YEAH, IT'S PART OF OUR DEDICATED FUNDS THAT WE'RE GONNA SUBMIT TO APPROPRIATIONS.
BUT ONCE YOU GET THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND THEY SAY, YEAH, I'M GIVE YOU $5 MILLION.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET 1 MILLION.
I MEAN, WE GOT 1 MILLION, BUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ALSO THAT'S ALREADY DONE SOME OF THE FREE WORK.
YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE
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WE'RE ALMOST A SHOVEL READY IN SOME OF THESE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE MONEY TO GET TO SHOVEL READY.AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THESE EFFORTS TO TAKE PLACE.
THIS, UH, I APPRECIATE MIKE, UH, COUNCILMAN KY, UH, SAYING THAT I WAS ONE WHO CAME ONE PAGER BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST.
AND I WORKED FOR STAFF FOR GENERALS AND THEIR TIME IS VERY PRECIOUS.
SO ONE PAGERS WERE THINGS THEY WOULD TAKE WITH THEM SO THEY CAN THINK ABOUT IT IF THEY WANT MORE DETAIL.
OF COURSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE READY FOR WHENEVER THEY ASK FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
SO FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ASKED LAST YEAR FOR THE RIDGE, UH, IN WINDING LAKERIDGE PARKWAY, $30 MILLION THROUGH ALL THREE, UH, PROFESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES.
AND CONGRESSWOMAN UH, JASMINE CROCKETT GAVE US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THEIR PROJECT.
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT NOW IT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATED NOW FOR THE FUTURE TO GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE NEED.
SO THIS IS HOW THIS IS ALL STARTING TO EVOLVE.
THAT I, I THINK THE MORE WE GO OUT CONGRESSIONAL FEDERAL DOLLARS, IT'S GONNA HELP US A LOT, UH, WITHIN THE CITY, IN OUR GROUP THROUGH AUSTIN.
IF YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR MONEY, IT GONNA BE HONEST, IT NEVER HURTS TO HAVE A ONE-PAGER AND GET IT DOWN IN THEIR HANDS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN REFORM THAT AUSTIN HAD BEEN, OR TEXAS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 300 BILLION LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT, I JUST CAME OUT AND JUST LET CONGRESSMAN
SO HERE, SO THIS ONE AND AUSTIN HAS TAKEN THEIR TIME.
UM, PART OF IT'S THE POLITICAL PARTY ISSUES.
I, I'D SAY THAT'S A LOT OF IT.
SO IN MY OPINION, AUSTIN HAS SLOW PLAYED THE FEDERAL THING.
THAT, THAT'S JUST BEING FRANK.
AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN OH YEAH, DEFINITELY.
AND ONE, ONE THING YOU, YOU WILL SEE, WE JUST HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO GIVE STAFF.
SO YOU WILL SEE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE WE GO DOWN TO DC BUT ONE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS, UM, TRYING TO COLOR CORD THE, THE MAP.
SO LIKE THAT EACH CONGRESS PERSON COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT PART OF GRAND PRAIRIE THEY REPRESENT AND SOME OF THE AROUND THAT IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WELL I DON'T SIDE OF TOWN, SO WHY AM I WHEN YOU GET A SMALL PERCENTAGE FROM FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SO I THINK YOU GOT A NICE LITTLE NUMBER.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE LAST 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, UM, PROJECT.
THE GRANTS ARE ADMINISTERED BY EXTRA.
SO TELL ME HOW THIS IS GONNA TALKING TO THE FEDERAL, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DOLLARS COME BACK.
I KNOW ABOUT
SO THE FIRST TWO I SEE WHERE, WHICH GRANT, WHICH DEPARTMENT IS ADMINISTERING THE GRANT? WHICH DEPARTMENT? UH, US DEPARTMENT.
SO WHAT US DEPARTMENT DO HE ADDRESS FOR THESE? I WAS GONNA SAY THIS WITH THAT MONEY THAT BIPARTISAN GAVE DIRECTLY TO, I'M SAYING IS THAT WE ARE GOING ADVOCATE AND UH, WE'RE GONNA ADVOCATE FOR ALL OF THESE.
SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA COME FROM STATE.
SO THE BEST GAVE TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND SAY LESS.
'CAUSE SOME OF THESE AREN'T, CONGRESS ALREADY ALREADY SAID WE'RE DONE WITH IT.
THEY TO BE, THEY'RE DONE WITH MONEY.
AND SO QUITE A FEW THESE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON IN AUSTIN.
SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT YEAH, WHAT DEPARTMENT WOULD YOU AS FEDERAL DEPARTMENT.
A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO THE, THE FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF POOL WITH THEIR STATE.
SO SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO THEM AND JUST SAYING, IF YOU COULD HELP US GET THIS, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE 'CAUSE IF ALL THOSE LAST FIVE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
NO, NO FEDERAL AGENCY HAS THE STRINGS TO THAT.
BUT THE CONGRESSMAN FOR THAT AREA MAY BE ABLE TO TWEAK DOWN IN AUSTIN BECAUSE IT IS FEDERAL LIFE.
BUT THAT'S GIVEN, IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE STATE ALREADY.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. THAT'S WHY IT'S A ONE PAGER.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, I CAN MAYBE HELP YOU ON THIS, BUT I CAN'T HELP YOU ON THAT.
YOU NEED TO CALL, YOU NEED TO TALK TO PATRICK
AND THE WAY THEY'RE ALLOCATING SOMEONE'S FUNDING, THEY DO IT BY EVERY COUPLE MONTHS.
SO EVERY COUPLE MONTHS THEY OPEN UP THE GRANT PROCESS ZONING BETWEEN THIS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK TOO.
WHAT ARE THE GRANT DEADLINE, THE APPLICATION? SO THEN SPRING TANK THREE, YOU GOT 30 DAYS TO SUBMIT SOME APPLICATIONS AND, AND WE'VE BEEN TESTING THE WATERS, YOU KNOW, WHERE SUBMIT WHAT WE CAN AND THEN WE GET REJECTED.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN FROM OUR, EACH
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TIME WE TO, TO CHANGE IT UP EACH TIME.SO LET, LET JUST EXPLAIN BASIC.
SO THE FIRST ONE, YOU HAVE THE GRANT TYPE IN THE SPECIFIC GRANT.
WHEN IS THE APPLICATION? WELL, DON'T GET INTO THE WEEDS YET ABOUT IT.
THIS IS ON, IT IS, THIS IS JUST THE, SO YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO RIGHT NOW.
WELL THAT'S, WE'RE WE'RE, THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL.
THEN A DISCUSSION STARTS FROM THERE.
WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC BECAUSE THIS, THEY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THERE ARE DEADLINES AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE DEAD HORSE IF IT'S ALREADY DOESN'T MATTER.
IT DOESN'T BECAUSE THIS IS A DIFFERENT GAME.
WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ARE CITIES THAT HAVE NOT ASKING JUST FOR ONE.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE FULL WHAT.
THERE'S BUCKETS AND BUCKETS OF MONEY.
BUT IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA ASK FOR ONE AND HERE'S THE DATE THEY'RE GONNA PUT YOU ON A STAFF.
SO A LOT OF IT IS FIRST MEET WITH YOUR CONGRESS MEMBER, DISCUSS WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THEN GET WITH STAFF AND THEN GET WITH YOUR STATE REP AND THEN WE'LL GET BETTER DIRECTION.
DISAGREE WITH SOME LIKE THE TOP TWO IS GOING COME DOWN THROUGH OP TO THE RTC, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, AND SO IS IT, OH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S A WASTE OF TIME TO HANDLE THIS TO CONGRESS.
I, I THINK WALTER WOULD SAY THOSE TOP TWO ARE PRIORITIZED AT TODD AT THE MPO LEVEL WITH MICHAEL MORRISON STAFF.
WE ALSO HAVE A GRANT WRITER THAT IS A LOBBYIST FOR US IN WASHINGTON NOW THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST.
THAT IS GOING TO BE SURE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE DEADLINES, ET CETERA, THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE OUR GRANTS ARE SUBMITTED ON TIME.
SO LIKE THE BIGGEST ONE THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT, HEY, WATER WASTE AND HERE'S HERE'S THE DEADLINE, THEN THEY'LL JUST PUT IT ON A STACK.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA COME TO THEM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OKAY, LET'S TALK.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING, THAT'S ANOTHER WHOLE LEVEL.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE WE WANT THAT.
WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS HOUSING ON HERE, THE IDEA PLACE AND THEN MOVE ON.
SO THIS IS ALL ON A HIGH LEVEL, THE HOUSING, WHAT IS THE, WE TALKING ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY WHERE WE, AND JUST THE ONE ON THE SOUTH IS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THERE? YEAH.
I JUST ASSUMED ALL THE HOMES REPRESENTED.
BUT I MEAN AS FAR AS OUR, THIS LIST HERE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVE.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT ACTIVE COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.
THESE ARE WHERE WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING SOME.
PROBABLY THAT THIRD STREET ONE THAT WERE JUST, WE IN MY THIRD STREET.
I HAVEN'T HEARD US DESIGNATE ANYWHERE YET THAT WE WANT TO GO AFTER A GRANT FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET WITH THE LANDOWNER FOR ONE THING, ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IS THE THOUSAND ACRES IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
BUT IF YOU CAN TIE IT INTO A FEDERAL PUSH, LIKE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WOULD WE VOTE FOR ALL THAT TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I WOULD NOT, BUT IT WOULD BE WORTH GIVING IT OUT A FLOODPLAIN IF WE GOT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND SHOWED THEM SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN IT WITH SOME WORK, SOME UH, INDUSTRIAL AND THEN UPFRONT MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT FIRST WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IF YOU HAD A, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING FEDERAL MONEY IF IT HAD AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ATTACHED TO IT.
I THINK IT'D BE REALLY HARD IN TODAY'S DAY AND TIME TO GET ANY FEDERAL GRANT MONEY JUST TO BENEFIT THE CITY.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO BUILD BRIDGES.
AND THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT TRINITY RIVER, WHICH GOES INTO WATER.
SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING IN WITH ONE.
SO WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THREE THINGS THAT WE CAN JUST DO.
OPEN UP ON THE JERS, THAT'S WHERE THE DOORS OPEN UP.
HEY, WE'VE GOT A WHERE YOU GET MONEY FOR THIS.
RIGHT? SO WE JUST HAVE TO IDENTIFY AND THEN GET INTO THE WEEDS FIRST.
WE GOTTA GET A PRICE OF WHAT TAKES TO GET IT OUT.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE THAT IS MY PATTERN.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I DO.
SO I LIVED FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS FROM THE PRE-AWARD SIDE TO THE POSTWAR FOR GRANTS.
I HAVE BEEN A FEDERAL GRANT REVIEWER.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE GOTTA BE SPECIFIC IN WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
MAKE SURE THAT WE ALIGNING OUR PROJECT WITH THE APPLICATION
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AND MAKING SURE THE OTHER PORTION I WAS GONNA ASK, IS THIS A REASONABLE AMOUNT? HAS IT BEEN BUDGETED DOWN TO AN APPLICATION LEVEL? NOT GRANULAR, BUT JUST A GRANT APPLICATION LEVEL.SO ONE THING IS WE, BUT THAT'S A PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALISTIC.
BUT THE OTHER PART IS BEFORE THAT DISCUSSION IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A BUDGET TO GET A SHOVEL READY? AND DEPENDING ON THAT PROJECT, WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR IT OR WE DON'T.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ON A HIGH LEVEL OF GETTING THEIR INTEREST.
MEGAN, YOU WANNA ADDRESS YOUR FIRST QUESTION? I, I WOULD.
SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WE SEE THE STOP THE CITY COUNCILS AT, THEY'RE THE ADVOCATES.
THEY GO TO THE, THE, THE CONGRESSMEN AND SAY, WE REALLY NEED THIS MONEY.
HERE'S WHAT, LOOK AT THESE, THESE ZONES THAT ARE RIGHT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE NEED THE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.
THEN STAFF WITH THE GRANT WRITERS, WITH OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WILL THEN LOOK AT EACH PROJECT AND SAY, OKAY, THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL ON A ROLLING.
ALL THE GRANTS WILL POP UP AND SAY WITHIN THE THIR NEXT 30 DAYS YOU'VE GOT APPLY.
THAT'S WHERE OUR GRANT WRITER WILL SAY, HEY, LET'S GET SOMETHING GOING RIGHT AWAY.
SO JUST, WE JUST APPLIED FOR SOMETHING, UM, LAST WEEK IT WAS THE RISE GRANT FOR THE LAKERIDGE BRIDGE.
BUT WE COULDN'T DO $30 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAD THAT OUR GRANT WRITER TOLD US, IF YOU TRIM THIS DOWN TO 12, $12 MILLION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MUCH MORE LIKELY OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE DOLLARS.
SO WE AMENDED THE PROJECT TO MAKE IT FIT WITHIN THE GRANT GUIDELINES AND THEN WE SUBMITTED IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTERNAL WORKING OF THE PROCESS.
THIS IS REALLY JUST TO HELP Y'ALL HAVE TALKING POINTS TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO YOUR, TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ELECTED OFFICIALS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE THE BEST GRAND PRAIRIE.
THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR FIRST TIME GOING RIGHT WITH YOU.
BUT WELL YOU'VE SEEN ANY IN THE PAST.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO TALK TO THEM.
IT'S JUST YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS OF WHEN THE DATE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT YOU.
LIKE MOST OF THIS STUFF'S GONNA HAVE TO BE STAFFED TO EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO START WITH, OKAY, SO WHAT IS MY TALKING POINT? AM I GOING TO, DO I WANT RUN INTO UM, US DEPART OF TRANSPORTATION? DO I WANT WELL THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DISCUSS WHEN WE GET THERE.
WHEN WE GET THERE WE'LL DISCUSS WHO DISCUSS.
WE'RE BACK TO, LIKE I SAID, THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
WHEN WE GET THERE WE SAY, HEY, YOU TALK ABOUT THIS, CHAD GONNA TALK ABOUT, I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS.
THAT WAY WE GO BECAUSE IT'S ALL GONNA BE AN ELEVATOR SPEECH.
WE'RE GONNA PITCH THEM AND MOVE ON.
THAT'S ALL WE GOT WE FOUND IS THAT CERTAIN IOS RESONATE WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S INTERESTS.
SO INTEREST ALONE CAN GET US IN THE DOOR, SAY THEY WANT TO BE THE ONE TO SAY THAT THEY HELPED US TO GET THE MONEY FOR FILL THE CLAIM AND THEN THEY GO INTO THEIR TOOL OF RESOURCES.
WELL LET ME LINK YOU UP WITH THEM AND LET ME MAKE A CALL HERE BECAUSE THE REACH IS BROADER THAN OUR REACH.
UM, ALSO I INQUIRED ABOUT THE FUNDING.
SO BASICALLY NOTHING ON THIS LIST.
DOES GRAND HAVE FULLY FUNDED AT THIS TIME? WE HAVE PARTIALLY FUNDED ALMOST EVERYTHING.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA PUT ASTERISK BY THE ONES WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON.
WE'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING WHAT, WHAT WE'VE GOT DESIGN MONEY IF WE'VE GOT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECT SO THAT Y'ALL WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN MONEY, BUT WE REALLY NEED THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS AND VICE VERSA.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE EDITS THAT CCDC PROVIDED US TODAY.
WHEN IT'S UP AND GOING, THAT GETS US A BIT MORE TRACTION THAN US.
WELL WE HOPE TO DO THIS ONE DAY VERSUS SAYING WE ALREADY STARTED SPENDING SOME MONEY ON THIS, THIS PROJECT IS IN THE WORKS.
UM, I'LL ALSO ADD EASY MENTION TWO THINGS.
THE FIRST I'LL MENTION, BECAUSE HE MENTIONED IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT APPLIES RIGHT NOW.
HE SAID IF WE COULD START FIGURING OUT IF THERE'S A NEED WHERE WE CAN PAIR UP WITH ANOTHER CITY, A NEIGHBORING CITY, THAT THAT WOULD GET US A LOT OF TRACTION.
LET'S JUST RUN THAT WATER LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN AT 32 COURT WORK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKS FOR THIS, BUT THAT'S ONE THING HE SAID.
THE SECOND THING SAID, WELL WE CAN DO YEAH.
IS ABOUT OUR MULTICULTURAL CENTER.
HE WAS ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS HIS NAME ON IT.
HE DIDN'T SAY ALL THAT, BUT HE SAID WE NEED TO REPACKAGE IT.
AND I FORGOT ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE THAT WAS A PART OF THE PRESENTATION LAST YEAR AND WE DON'T HAVE IT ON HERE, HERE.
AND HE ACTUALLY WAS INTERESTED IN THAT.
HE JUST MENTIONED SOME GUIDELINES ON WHAT THEY WEREN'T FUNDING AND HOW WE NEEDED TO AMEND IT.
AND WE DON'T GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THAT RIGHT NOW, TELL YOU OFFLINE, BUT HE HAD SOME CHANGES.
SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, SINCE YOU'RE GONNA BE EDITING IT, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LAST ONE.
TAKE THAT LINE ITEM AND THEN WE CAN JUST MAKE THE CHANGES YOU REQUESTED.
AND ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS, ALL OF YOU IS THIS IS A PRECURSOR TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO IN 2025.
DOWN DOWN 35 BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE
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MOST ALL THE MONEY ON THIS LIST IS GOING TO COME FROM.WE NEED THE ASSISTANCE OF, IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE THE ASSISTANCE AND PITCHING IN A LITTLE SEED MONEY FROM WASHINGTON IF THEY HAD IT TO GO TO AUSTIN.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL COULD LOOK AT WHAT'S THE PRIORITY ON THE BACK, WHAT'S NUMBER 1, 2, 3, 4.
THAT WAY THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS THE ONE THAT THEY CAN GIVE IS MONEY ON.
BUT I LOCATION YEAH, I AGREE SPECIFIC.
BUT IF WE JUST LOOK COLLECTIVELY SAY, HEY, I, THERE'S REALLY NO, WE NEED ALL OF IT.
THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY, I MEAN YOU CAN'T RANK THESE.
EACH CONGRESSMAN HAS A DIFFERENT PRO PROCESS AND STAND THERE.
THEIR DISTRICT, THEIR OUR PRIORITY TIME, THEIR DISTRICT, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.
I, I I WOULDN'T SO STAFF, Y'ALL SAID WE NEED A WATER LINE FOR A DUAL WATER LINE.
FIRST I'VE EVER HEARD OF THE WATER LINES THAT ARE, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE ARE OLDER WATER.
THERE IS ONE WATER LINE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE'S $42.5 MILLION WATER LINE FROM A REDUNDANT FROM REDUNDANCY OF THE WATER LINE.
THAT IS A TIE TO DALLAS SO THAT WE, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO THE LINE, WE DON'T RUN OUT OF WATER.
SO THERE IS ONE WATER, REDUNDANT WATER LINES THERE.
SO THIS ISN'T TO PUT WATER AROUND OUR CITY.
THIS IS JUST TO GET IT FROM DALLAS TOO.
BOY, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR, FOR THESE WATER LINES.
UH, I'M CURIOUS, ANY OTHER CITIES HAVE REDUNDANT WATER LINES? THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
IF I HAVE $42.5 MILLION SITTING IN THE TABLE, I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE MY FIRST CHOICE TO PUT IT.
I WAS ABOUT TO ASK CAN NOREEN SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I JUST, SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT UM, UH, THIS YEAR WE APPROVED FOR A PRELIMINARY ROUTE STUDY FOR IT.
SO THIS THAT IS STARTED ALREADY, RIGHT? UM, IT'S GOING FROM OUR MAJOR SOUTHERN DALLAS PLANT.
IT FEEDS THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY.
UM, I BELIEVE IN 2012 THAT WATER LINE DID GO DOWN AND THE CITY HAD TO GO TO A WATER MENT.
BUT THE E 60 INCH LINE IS LIKE FROM THE 1980S OR SEVENTIES.
EITHER WAY IT IS A PARALLEL LINE FOR REDUNDANCY AND FUTURE CAPACITY.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WE NEEDED ONE.
BUT THAT'S OKAY IF WE FEEL LIKE WE DO.
AND JUST ONE, ONE MORE THING BECAUSE I I KEEP ASKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ON OUR AGENDA WE HAVE DIFFERENT APART DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GROUP TOGETHER THAT WE CAN MEET AND TALK IN THE CITY.
SO THAT, THAT'S A VALID QUESTION.
YEAH, BUT MY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OPEN HOURS.
SO IT'S NOT GOING, IT'S GOING BE WHERE WE JUST GO AND ALL THE AGENCIES ARE IN THAT ROOM.
NO, THEY SAID IT'S LIKE THREE THEM.
NO, NO, THERE'S GONNA BE A SEPARATE ROOM.
LIKE THE CITY COULD MAKE AN APPOINTMENT FOR A SEPARATE ROOM AND YOUR WINDOW LIKE IN THE HOUR TO MEET WHATEVER AGENCY YOU WANNA MEET WITH THEM.
SO THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
AND ONE OF THE PROCESSES WILL BE WHO HOLDS THE STREAM TO THAT MONEY.
WELL THAT GOES BACK TO THEIR CONGRESS.
NO, IF THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN IT TO AUSTIN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO.
AND Y'ALL ALREADY SAID THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO COME BACK AND GET WITH OUR STATE REPS.
THAT'S GONNA BE OUR FOLLOW UP IS TO GIVE THE SAME THING TO OUR STATE REPS.
ARE WE GOOD FOR THIS? FOR RIGHT NOW? Y'ALL TAKE PRIORITIES? NO.
YEAH, IT'S VERY WELL DONE PROFESSIONALLY.
WE'LL BE AT OUR MAILER OF THE PACKET FRIDAY.
IT WE'LL AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN GET IT UP.
WE'LL BE GIVING IF COME, IF YOU COME UP WITH $42 MILLION NO STRINGS ATTACHED.
GET EIGHT OF THE ITEMS. WE JUST, I'M JUST SAYING YEAH.
GONNA HAVE OUR GROUP PICTURE EMAILS.
UH, DISCUSSIONS OF WATER, MULTIFAMILY WATER RATES.
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UH, OUR DESIRE WHEN WE BROUGHT THE WATER RATES TO OUR F AND G COMMITTEE LAST YEAR WAS TO KEEP THE RATES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE AND BEGIN TO KEEP OUR FUTURE OPERATIONAL WATER SYSTEM HEALTHY.UH, OUR ORIGINAL 24 WASTEWATER COST FOR SERVICE IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY DEBT INDICATORS FOR THE 24 BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT THE RATES WOULD COVER ANY INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO THE PREVIOUS MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE UNDER OUR WASTE WASTEWATER RATES.
MULTIFAMILY WASTEWATER RATES REQUIRED 15% BELOW THE COST OF SERVICE DELIVERY.
UNDER THE RESTRUCTURING WE, IT ASSESSED THE MONTHLY CHARGE FOR EACH UNIT IN THE COMPLEX, NOT BY A METER, BUT PER UNIT.
IF YOU HAD 335 UNITS IN THE COMPLEX, THAT WAS A PER UNIT CHARGE ASSESSMENT VOLUME CHARGE WAS AT A FLAT RATE.
WITH THE, WITH THAT, IF THE NEXT SLIDE WILL TELL YOU THAT STAFF RECEIVING THE COMPLAINT THAT THE TENANTS OWNERS THE WATER BILL INCREASE, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE TO ELIMINATE THE $16 11 CENTS MONTHLY WASTEWATER CHARGE PER UNIT, BUT KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME.
UH, EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY NEEDS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF WA WASTEWATER.
SO, UM, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT DOESN'T CHARGE APARTMENT, EACH APARTMENT OF WASTEWATER CHARGE.
WHAT DOES THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX PAY AS A WASTEWATER CHARGE? HOW IS IT RATED ACTIVE VERSUS NO UNITS VERSUS ACTIVE UNITS? NO, ALL BILL PAID.
IF I HAVE A 300 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING CHARGED A PER 300 UNIT 1611, WHAT I THE OWNER OF THE 300 COMPLEX PAY THE CITY FOR WASTEWATER HAD TO BE PAINLESS TIME.
MAYOR, THIS LARGE INDICATES WHAT YOU'VE GOT THERE.
IF YOU NOTICE, TELL THAT THAT'S KIND OF HARD.
SO WHAT, WHAT WHAT I, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE.
THE WASTEWATER BASE CHARGE IS 52 9 6 ON A FOUR INCH METER.
THE WASTEWATER BASE CHARGE ON THE TWO INCH METER WAS 26 9.
AND ON THE HUNDRED, THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND UNIT FEE FOR 152 UNITS WAS 3 55 PER UNIT.
OH $3 55, $3 AND 55 CENTS PER UNIT.
SO THAT WAS A NICK THAT WAS LAST YEAR.
SO THEY WERE PAYING WHAT WE FELT LIKE WAS A FAIR SHARE OF THE WASTEWATER BASE AT THAT TIME.
SO WHAT DID WE DO TO THEIR RATES? WE DID A REASSESSMENT OF, NO, NOT THE RATES THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY PAID, BUT THE RATES THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA THAT GET GET PAY ONE BILL.
THE WHOLE APARTMENT PAYS THE WHOLE BILL.
WHAT WHAT WE DID WITH F AND G IS F AND G WENT BACK AND WENT THROUGH THIS WITH US.
BILL, WHAT DID WE CHANGE? WHAT WE CHANGED WAS THAT YOU NOTED THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE UNIT FEE WENT TO $16 AND 11 CENTS FOR WASTE LOSS.
EVEN FOR THEM, FOR THEM, FOR EVERYONE.
EVEN IF THEY'RE, EVEN IF IT'S APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT PAYS ON, PAYS THEIR ALL, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE $4 MILLION EXTRA MONEY.
SO IT WAS A BASICALLY A $4 MILLION INCREASE BASED ON MY CONVERSATION.
NOW WITH YOU TODAY, IF THE $4 MILLION INCREASE WITH OUR WASTEWATER AND OUR WATER RATES, RIGHT? IT TOOK THAT TO GET TO OUR WATER RATES.
IF YOU NOTICE THERE IS ANAND FEE FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR CONSUMPTION AND YOUR WATER CHARGES AS WELL.
THERE'S A $17 72 CENTS UNIT FEE.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE UNIT FEE ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT WAS $262 AND 69 CENTS.
WHAT DID BOIL DOWN TO IS OUR APARTMENTS WERE NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF OUR WRACK PERIOD.
AND THAT WAS THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDATION? YES.
IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE CONSULTANT.
I JUST, I JUST, WHEN I HEARD IT WAS SUCH AN INCREASE, IT SHOCKED ME FOR, UH, IT WAS A $4 MILLION IN, SO UNDERSTAND IT.
SO WE WENT FROM NEEDED FOR WASTEWATER FROM THREE 5 CENTS PER UNIT.
AND FROM WATER WENT FROM 2.69 TO 17 7 2.
AND NOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE RECOMMENDING IS TO SCRAP THE ENTIRE WASTEWATER, IT SCRAP THE 1611 FEE AND THAT WILL, THAT WILL REDUCE OUR REVENUE PROJECTED.
WELL WHAT, SO YOU'D DO AWAY WITH IT ALL.
YOU WOULDN'T EVEN GO DOWN TO WHAT THE
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OTHER ONES WERE? NO, WE WOULD TAKE IT ALL AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD REDUCE OUR REVENUE.WELL WHY WOULD, WHY WOULD WE DO AWAY WITH ALL OF IT? THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF, OF WASTEWATER.
THE REASON IS WATER INCREASE THAT WE CAN WE INCREASE THE WATER FROM TWO SIX 9 CENTS TO 17? YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO MAY JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA OFFSET FULLY, BUT TO OFFSET THE BURDEN, THE, SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE NEIGHBORS FIND OUT? WELL, THE REASON THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING DOING AWAY WITH THE UNIT FEE ON WASTEWATER IS BECAUSE NOW WE ALSO RAISED THE WASTEWATER FEE FROM 80% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THEY'RE PAYING A 100% RATE ON THE CONSUMPTION RATE ON WASTEWATER.
NOW THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO, THAT I I DO NEED TO BRING FORTH IS IF YOU LOOK THE COST OF DELIVERY OF 1000 GALLONS OF WATER IS $6 AND 53 CENTS.
OUR APARTMENTS ARE PAYING $5 AND 66 CENTS.
IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE, FOR THE DELIVERY OF A THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER REGARDLESS.
IS THAT LESS THAN RESIDENTS PAYING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? IT DEPENDS.
A RESIDENT THAT IS USING LESS THAN 3000 GALLONS OF WATER PAYS 12 SLIPS WITH A $6 AND 53 CENTS DELIVERY CHARGE.
WE CHOSE TO SUBSIDIZE THAT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE OTHER.
WE CHOSE TO SUBSIDIZE THAT FOREVER.
RIGHT? NOW THE OTHER THING IS UNDER THE COST FOR TREATING A THOUSAND GALLONS OF SEWAGE IS $7 AND 62 CENTS.
THE CONSUMPTION RATE SHOWS THAT THEY'RE PAYING $6 AND 78 CENTS FOR $7 WHERE IT'S COSTING US $7 AND 62 CENTS.
I I POINT THAT OUT SO THAT YOU REALIZE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZING RIGHT.
AND, AND HAVE APARTMENTS AND HAVE BEEN FOREVER.
I JUST QUESTION WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE GONE UP ALL AT ONCE THAT MUCH MAY I, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WE SEEM TO BE SENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WHEN WE GET APARTMENTS HERE.
WE DON'T REALLY LIKE THEM, BUT WE SEEM TO BE SENSITIVE TO HOW MUCH RENT THEY'RE PAYING.
SO I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN UTILITIES TOO.
AND MAYBE STRIKE A REASONABLE BALANCE BETWEEN THE $4 MILLION INCREASE AND NOT SO MUCH, BUT AND USE A FEW YEARS TO GET IT UP THERE.
UH, I GUESS I'M, I DON'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT WHY IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS FROM SOME PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE THEIR TENANTS THAT PAY PER METER ARE LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED? SO, BUT THERE'S COMPLAINTS.
THERE'S COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENT TOO.
YEAH, BUT SO YOU HAD TO TAKE SOMEONE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
SO STAFF PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
IF THEY GOT A COMPLAINT FROM ONE OF THE OWNERS HERE IN TOWN, RODNEY DEBON, A BIG COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN DO THAT.
STAFF CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AT THEIR WISH.
I MEAN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT A LOT STAFF CAN JUST ADD WHATEVER THEY WANT.
EVERYTHING ON HERE IS, I DIDN'T PUT ANY OF THE CONSENT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE I GET CALLS, WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY 20 $30 OF WASTED WHERE AUTOMATIC THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THEIR BILL.
YOU KNOW, I'M SO DO WE DO WITH THAT? WHAT DO WE SAY? WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE IT OR NOT.
I'M SAYING WE SH AND I AM SAYING WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE UP SO MUCH AT ONCE.
WE SHOULDN'T ADD THAT TO THE RESIDENCE.
ANY RESIDENT, WHETHER THEY'RE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT, RENTING OR OWN, I DON'T THINK, OR A BUSINESS.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE GONE UP THAT MUCH AT ONCE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE JUDICIOUS WHEN WE DO THE RATES FOR THE CITIZENS AND KEEP IT AT ABOUT A 5%, FOUR AND A HALF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WE WE AT IN F AND GI DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE OTHER TWO, BUT WE DID SUPPORT THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE.
AND, AND THAT WHO VOTED PUT A BUDGET ALSO SUPPORT THAT MUCH OF WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A $4 MILLION.
I DIDN'T GET THE LEASE LIKE Y'ALL DID.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT WENT FROM A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO, UH, LET ME GET IT CLEAR.
EVERY, IF WE KEEP THE RATES, THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX, EITHER THROUGH THEM PAYING IT OR THE RESIDENTS PAYING IT WILL PAY WHAT AS THEIR WASTEWATER FEE.
THEIR WASTEWATER FEE CONSUMPTION FEE WILL BE $6 AND 78.
I'M NOT, I'M TALKING AS IT IS NOW.
NO, THE NEW ONES THAT PAY THEIR OWN PAY MORE.
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WELL WHAT I'M THE MENTAL COLUMN THERE IS AS IT IS NOW AS WHAT WAS PASSED BY THE COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS THE $6 AND 78 CENTS CONSUMPTION RATE PLUS THE $16 AND 1116 OKAY.SO THE LAST COLUMN SHOWS YOU WITH THAT SAME $6 AND 78 CENTS CONSUMPTION RATE.
BUT YOU HAVE NO PER UNITY IN THE WASTEWATER SIDE.
BUT THIS RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN, YOU'RE STILL BEING SUBSIDIZED.
THE MIDDLE COLUMN, YOU'RE STILL BEING SUBSIDIZED TO A POINT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT RAISED THE WATER RATES TO WHERE IT BALANCES.
SO APARTMENT PEOPLE FLUSH A TOILET LESS THAN NORMAL PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PUTTING A TAX ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED MONEY.
WE JUST SPEND A LOT OF TIME, I THINK THEY OUGHT TO PAY THE THROUGHPUT LIKE WE DO.
BUT HOW IS OURS FIGURED THE THE METHODOLOGY IS THE SAME MAYOR THE DIFFERENCE IS IS THAT WHAT, WHAT WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING PROBABLY TWO THINGS CONFUSED.
THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE DO EVERY, WE DO FOUR MONTHS OUT OF THE WINTER AND TAKE THE THREE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS YOUR WASTEWATER CORRECT.
IS THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
SO I THINK AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING SHOULD PAY THE SAME IF THEY PUT A GALLON IN, THEY OUGHT TO PAY AS MUCH AS I PAY.
BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE UNITS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY OUGHT TO PAY THE RATE THAT'S GOING INTO THE, AM I MAKING SENSE? THEY OUGHT TO PAY THE RATE GOING INTO THE, THEN WE HAVE TO BILL TO, BUT I DIDN'T, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU DO THAT PER UNIT.
I THINK YOU DO THAT BY FLOW OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX.
WHAT GOES IN THE, WHAT GOES INTO THE WASTEWATER GOES INTO THE WASTEWATER.
WE HAVE TO, SO IN TRUCK LOT SUPPORT AN INCREASE.
NOW HOW WE DO THAT INCREASE, THAT'S WHERE I I AGREE.
PARTS COMPLEX PUT A LARGE ATTACKS IN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS MY OPINION, YOU MIGHT HAVE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S SPREAD OUT MORE.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE ONE BIG TOILET IN ONE AREA, THAT'S THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT HOW MUCH ARE THEY FLUSHING VERSUS A COMMERCIAL THAT I I THINK WE OUGHT TO PAY KIND OF CHARGE THE SAME THING WHAT GOES DOWN THE WASTEWATER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING BILLS.
THAT'S THE POINT I MADE YOU I WORK TOO.
I KNOW, BUT SO I WANT SAY THAT THEY WORKING CLASS, I'M NOT GETTING UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL WORKING CLASS AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL.
THE AVERAGE PERSON IN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY, NOT DISTRICT CITY.
THAT'S WHY I ONLY THINK SHE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WASTEWATER.
BUT THE, UH, THE ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE, WHAT WAS THE CONSUMPTION RATE FOR, UH, WASTEWATER IN 2023? THIS, UH, THE CONSUMPTION RATE IS WMA TIMES RATE WAS 902.32.
THAT'S AT WINTER MONTH AVERAGE.
THE THREE MONTH AVERAGE WINTER MONTH AVERAGE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S 5 25.
WELL WE BROUGHT UP TO 6 78 THIS YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT AGAIN, WE SPENT TIME, YEAH.
A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR TIME IN THESE F AND G MEETINGS GOING OVER THIS.
AND I HATE, I HATE, AND I'M NOT SAYING I VOTE AGAINST THE F AND GI AM SAYING IT RAISES MY CONCERN, BUT IT RAISES NOBODY ELSE'S CONCERN.
UH, WELL I'M SAYING THAT IF I COULD SUPPORT A CHANGE OR MAYBE IT WAS DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A CHANGE, I I DON'T MIND BRINGING IT THROUGH A WHOLE NOTHER DON'T, I WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE, WOULD Y'ALL MIND GOING BACK THROUGH IT? SURE.
I'M NOT SUPPORTING ANY CHANGE THIS EVENING, SO NO, IT'S, LET'S, LET'S TABLE IT TONIGHT.
SEND IT BACK TO F AND G TO GET REANALYZE, REANALYZE.
WHAT DID WE PAY FOR THE CONSULTANT? IT IT WAS THE 3.6 MILLION THAT WE HAD TO ADVERTISE IN TO GET THAT 68 CENT RAISE.
COUNSELORS, YOU ASKED HOW IT GOT HERE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS STAFF WE CANNOT ADDRESS CHANGING RATES.
THEREFORE I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE REASON I ASKED, WELL THE QUESTION WAS NO ONE ANSWERED QUESTIONS.
RESIDENTS ARE GONNA LOOK NO, MIKE'S,
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MIKE'S QUESTION.WE HAVEN'T HAD HIS QUESTION ANSWERED.
WE WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT QUESTION WAS I DO? HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING? WILL WE, WE BEERED OFF
WE ARE TRYING ELIMINATE IN ORDER TO BRING DOWN THE WATER.
WE MAY RECOMMENDATION BUT WE MAY NOT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE, EVERYBODY PAYS OR IS THIS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR APARTMENTS? APARTMENTS PAY $16 AND 11 CENTS DIFFERENT.
THE RATE IS DIFFERENT FOR IN, FOR WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.
BUT FOR APARTMENT, WHAT'S RESIDENTIAL? UM, RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S THE 16 THAT MATCHES WHAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IT MATCHES.
SO RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT THAT EVERYBODY, THERE'S A DEMEANOR AND Y'ALL CLEAR FIVE SOMETHING TO ME WHETHER THE APARTMENT'S PAYING IT OR THE INDIVIDUAL'S PAYING IT PAYING THE SAME WAY PAID THE 16, BUT THEY USED TO NOT PAY THE 60.
SEE, I I'M NOT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T PAY THE 16, BUT I'M NOT, I'M SAYING MY GOSH, THEY HIT SOMEBODY OVER THE HEAD WITH THAT'S ALREADY MAYBE STRUGGLING WITH IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE A SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENT FOR WHAT TO ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE THAT.
SO TIMES 12 TIMES 12 A YEAR IS AN INCREASES.
LIKE THAT'S WHY I GOT LIT UP ON FACEBOOK.
WONDER WHY SO MANY APARTMENTS WOULD COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE IS FREE WATER
SO IN TOWN MAYOR, THE ONLY OTHER THING WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT THERE BE, THERE ARE CERTAIN OPERATORS THAT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD TRULY LOOK AT THEIR RATES AND PROBABLY ADJUST THEIR RENT.
BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER OPERATORS ONLY LIKE, WELL YEAH, I'M PASSING THAT THROUGH.
WELL, IF I SAVING THAT MONEY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GONNA GO TO THE RENTER.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL 'EM, OKAY, I'M GONNA REDUCE YOUR LEASE.
SOME OPERATORS WILL TAKE THAT IN EFFECT.
HERE'S WHAT I FEEL ABOUT THE OPERATORS OF THE APARTMENTS.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY CHARGE THE RENT BASED ON WHAT THEIR COST IS.
THEY CHARGE WHAT THEY CAN GET.
JUST LIKE I DID WHEN I WAS RENTING HOUSES, MY COST WENT DOWN, BUT OVER THE YEARS I COULD GET MORE RENT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE MARKET.
I THINK APARTMENT OWNERS DO THE SAME THING.
THERE'S BEEN A DIP IN APARTMENT RENTS IN THE DALLAS FOR WORTH AREA RECENTLY.
FIRST TIME IN YEARS, THEY SAID THE OTHER NIGHT.
HOWEVER, I THINK WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT STEP RIGHT NOW TO LET F AND G LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
AND I'M NOT TELLING, GIVING Y'ALL DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING NEW.
I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN BASED ON THIS NEW INFORMATION.
YEAH, BECAUSE I I'M STILL AND SO I WAS STILL UNCLEAR.
I KNOW THERE, I UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST, BUT IS IS THERE SOME WAY AND I, AND I I HAVE TO ADMIT I NEED SOME GLASS ON RIGHT NOW.
AND IS THERE SOME WAY THAT THIS RATE IS MORE THAN THE RESIDENTIAL? BECAUSE I SEE THAT SIX, IT JUST, THEY WEREN'T PAYING IT BEFORE.
THE BIG JUNK, THAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
WHY ARE MY WATER RATES SO HIGH? THEY THINK IT WENT UP RIGHT? WE'RE MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT.
YEAH, WE'RE MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT.
MAYOR PRO TEM, PULL THAT ON YOUR MOTION TABLE TONIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, NEXT CITY COUNCIL EXPENSE ALLOWANCE.
LAST TIME WE GAVE THEM DIRECTION TO HEY, LOOK AT WHAT WE, OR MAYBE WHEN IT WAS IN, WHEN IT STARTED AND GIVE US WHAT IT WOULD BE BASED ON INFLATION.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALL SAID THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FAIR.
AND MAYOR ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ONE, THE SALARY AND ADJUSTED JANUARY, 2024 MONTHLY STIPEND.
IF IT WERE TO BE ADJUSTED IT WOULD BE 1373.
THE MAYOR PRO TIM 1152 MAYOR, NO.
WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TONIGHT IS THE MONTHLY STIPEND.
HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN? NINE.
YEAH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD 'EM DO.
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THINK THAT WOULD BE PALATABLE.DO WE GET BACKPACK? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IS EVEN IF, IF Y'ALL WANT TO DO THIS IS JUST HAVE STAFF PUT IT IN IT TO WHERE WE DO AN ADJUSTMENT EVERY YEAR.
WOULDN'T A GOOD BUDGET JUST BASED ON INFLATION AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF KEEPS IT CLEAN BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2006 WHEN IT WAS FIRST IN.
SO IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE ROUGH WATER RATES.
YOU SEE A BIG JUMP AND YOU QUESTION, YOU HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU SEE A BIG JUMP.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
COUNCIL MAYOR, WE'LL PUT IT IN AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS TO A PLUG PASSAGE BY Y'ALL.
WE WOULD PUT IT IN AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS TO ANALYZE WHAT THE INFLATION RATE IS.
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU WITH THE BUDGET.
IF WE HAVE A RATIONALE BECAUSE THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE'D WANNA ROUND IT UP TWO.
SO GIVEN THE RATIONALE, SEEING ON THAT WHAT THE MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE DIFFERENCE OF THE AMOUNTS, I MEAN THAT WAS WHAT KATHY DIAGGIO CAME UP WITH.
UM, BECAUSE I, I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE PROBABLY WAS MORE, CHARLIE WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT MAYOR THAN CHARLIE LEFT EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT AND CAME HOME MONDAY.
SO THERE WAS A LOT WAS DOING EVERYTHING.
SO THERE WAS A LOT MORE ACTIVITY THEN.
AND NOW I THINK OUR COUNCIL'S A LOT MORE.
IS IT, IS IT, DO WE STILL KEEP IT A TIER OR DO WE MAKE IT A TWO TIER, LIKE A MIRROR RATE AND THEN
I I THINK WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF CLEAN BECAUSE IT GOES BASED ON PAST THIS WAY.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T NEED TO GO WITH A TWO TIER RACE OR A RATE OR A THREE TIER.
ONE TIER ONE ONE COULD GO WITH UH, UH, IT IT, IT DOESN'T AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE RATIONALE FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL BUSY NOW.
THAT WAS BACK THEN AS YOU SAID.
GOODNESS, CHARLIE, UH, GEORGIA KNOWS MS. RUTHIE DID EVERYTHING ON WEEKENDS.
UH, THE MAYOR PRO TIM NOW DOESN'T GET THAT COURTESY.
I MEAN I, I WENT TO SO MANY THINGS AS MAYOR PRO TEM.
I SAID COME ON CHARLIE, CAN'T YOU MAKE THAT THIS WEEKEND?
I MEAN, OR YOU COULD DO A ALL OF US THE SAME.
I CAN'T COME UP WITH EXPENSES TO MEET ANY OF THAT, BUT SOME OF YOU CAN.
SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO DO A TWO TIER AND SETTLE ON A A A $1,100 FOR EVERYBODY, I LET'S KICK IT AROUND IN HERE SO WE KNOW WHAT THE MOTION'S GONNA BE OUT THERE.
I'M RIGHT NOW I THINK THIS MOTION WOULD PASS AND OR BECAUSE IT HAS RATIONALE.
IF THERE'S NO APPETITE FOR THAT, WE COULD STILL STICK WITH THIS MOTION AND THEN GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THAT WOULD BE BOOKED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS NEXT YEAR.
ARE YOU SAYING IF IT'S TWOS, WHAT? MAYORS ONE AND THEN THE SECOND WOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT AND THEN THE REST OF EVERYBODY WHAT WITH EVERYONE ELSE? WOULD THAT BE 87? Y WOULD GET SIX.
THAT'S HOW Y'ALL WANT TO MAKE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST PULLING OUT THERE.
WHETHER NOT DO THAT HE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT TWO RATES BE.
HE JUST SAID, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT A TWO TIER? CORRECT.
Y'ALL WANT TO JUST APPROVE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW AND THEN GO TO THE BUDGET? I MEAN I'M, I'M ASKING I LIKE THAT APPROACH.
I THINK WE, THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
THIS HAS RATIONALE BASED ON PAST HISTORY AND WE DID IT FOR INFLATION AND THE, AND THEN IT BUDGET TIME.
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ALRIGHT.UM, MEANING, UM, I THINK JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE THE MATH ON THIS AND IF SOMEBODY, MY CONSTITUENTS CAME UP AND ASKED ME WHAT IT WAS BASED ON, I SAY ON HISTORY RATHER THAN ON, WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW AND HERE WE GO.
AND THEN IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT AT A LATER DATE, I'M COMFORTABLE OF PROVING THIS AS IS RIGHT NOW TONIGHT.
UH, AND I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT IF A MOTION TO PUT ON THE FLOOR, WE'RE LOOKING IN JULY TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE WANT TO GO DO VOTERS WITH A ANOTHER DEAL THAT WOULD HANDLE THE FIRST COLUMN.
BUT FOR TONIGHT I'M COMFORTABLE 'CAUSE I CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO CITIZENS.
AND THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON OF THE DATA, IT'S, IT'S CITY GRAND PRAIRIE ANDIA THAT DOES THIS SYSTEM HERE.
ALL THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US HAS A TIER.
THE OTHER CITIES DON'T EVEN GIVE THEM REIMBURSEMENT HARDLY.
WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT DOESN'T DO IT.
BUT THE MAJORITY, EVERYBODY ELSE IS USES TWO TIERS.
MOST EVERYBODY DOESN'T DO EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT.
THE TWO TIER YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE SALARY, NOT EXPENSES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL, THE TWO TIER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS COMPARING TO OTHER CITIES 'CAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN REIMBURSE IT LIKE WE DO.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? I THINK HE'S GONNA PUT A MOTION.
I THINK WE PUT THE MOTION AS IS IF SOMEBODY MAKES A AND PASSER BES YOU MAKE AN A AMEND MOTION.
I'M PREPARED TO GO AS IT IS 'CAUSE IT'S EASY FOR US ALL TO EXPLAIN AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE CHARTER AMENDMENT IN JULY AND LOOK AT WHETHER WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS STACK DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.
ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? OH GOD, IT'S SO SIMPLE.
YES OR NO? WHAT DO WE WANNA DO GUYS? COME ON.
DO WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS? ANY INCREASE? THAT'S EITHER WAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA VOTE FOR EITHER WAY.
I THINK BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD THIS WAY WE WILL GET, WELL I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, CONSENT THAT WE WILL CONSENT TO IT.
I'M NOT GONNA BE THE LONE GUY OUT THERE VOTING NO OR VOTE YES.
I MEAN I WANT TO, I UNDERSTAND COLE'S POSITION, BUT BASED ON HISTORY, IF IT WAS WORTH IT BACK IN 2006, WE IT'S WHETHER THEY WITH INFLATION NOW AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA TELL ANYBODY.
IT'S EASY TO EXPLAIN AND STANDBY.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE ITEMS PLACED 21 BEFORE US.
WE UNDERSTAND WE BUYING ANY CARS TONIGHT? NO, I'M SERIOUS.
ARE WE BUYING ANY CARS TONIGHT? ARE WE BUYING ANY CARS TONIGHT? I DIDN'T.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MAYOR
ANY OTHER ITEMS ON CONSENT FOR UH, YES, UH, ITEMS, UH, 10 THROUGH 16 AND ALSO 19.
WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS THROUGH CCDC AND APPROVED THIS TO MOVE IT HERE, SO JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT.
WHAT, WHAT EXACT SESSIONS? NO.
I'M GLAD BECAUSE WE, THIS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
WAS THAT ABOUT ITEM, UM, 29 PARTNER? ARE YOU A HOTEL POINT BLANK QUESTION.
CAN IT BE DENIED WITHOUT RECOURSE? THAT'S A YES OR NO.
I MEAN, ANYBODY CAN SUE FOR ANYTHING, BUT I SEE SUP AND I.
EVEN THOUGH ZONE FOR THE, WELL, NO,
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THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED SHOWING TWO HOTELS AT THIS LOCATION.THAT WAS THEIR CAVEAT SAYING THE ZONE ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOTELS AND RETAIL IN THIS AREA.
IF WE DENY THE SUP FOR THE HOTELS IS AN OPTION FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING ELSE CORRECT.
BUT OUR QUESTION WAS, EVEN THOUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED, SINCE THEY KNOW ALL HOTELS REQUIRE SUVS, YES WE DID.
JUST LIKE IF A DAIRY QUEEN WAS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE COULD STILL DENY THAT DAIRY QUEEN BECAUSE IT NEEDS AN SUP.
OR IF THEY SHOWED A SEVEN 11 AT THE CORNER IN THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE COULD DENY IT THE NIGHT THEY WANTED TO PUT IT ON.
SO THE ANSWER TO OUR QUESTION IS WE CAN DENY IT 'CAUSE WE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE A REASON.
BUT THE REASON IS WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER HOTEL RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE HERE TO, TO PRESENT STATE THEIR CASE MARKETING AND REASONING AND WHY WE NEED ANOTHER HOTEL.
WHAT CATEGORY OF HOTELS DO THEY WANT TO BUILD? UH, THERE'S A SPRINGFIELD SUITES AND THEN A TOWN.
ONE IS, ONE IS UPPER CLASS BASED ON STR UHHUH RATING AND THE OTHER ONE IS UPPER CLASS LOOK GAIN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN JALINE.
AND I MET, WE ALREADY HAD LISTEN JUST TO GIVE US A BACKUP AND I APPRECIATE JACQUELINE FOR ASKING THE QUESTION.
WHEN WE GOT HERE, WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
WHEN WE MET WITH IKEA, UH, WE SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEM WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE HOTEL.
NOW YOU CAN KEEP IT ON THERE, BUT IT REQUIRES AN SU, YOU KNOW, SO WHY ROLL THE DICE? UH, THEY COULD.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHY OUR ACCOUNT, OUR STAFF YEARS AGO CAME UP WITH WE GOTTA PROTECT OURSELVES ALL THESE HOTELS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SITUATED.
WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
WELL, WE CAN'T SAY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN HERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA PUT A MOTION.
I BET SHE'S GONNA MOTION TO DENY IT.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, SAME QUESTION.
SO THE CRUNCH FITNESS, WELL IT'S NOT THE EXACT SAME QUESTION, BUT, UM, WHAT ITEM? THIS IS ITEM 25.
SO THAT ITEM THERE IS, IT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT? CAN YOU ELABORATE? WE CAN'T DO THAT.
I AIN'T, I CAN'T DO THAT TWICE.
MUSICAL MISUSE IS ALLOWED BY WRITER AND THIS IS ONLY SO, UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING VERY DETRIMENTAL WE CAN'T COME UP.
IT'S A GREAT LOCATION OR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT AS FLEXIBLE ON THAT.
YOU DON'T WANT A FITNESS CENTER IN THE OLD GROCERY STORE, BUT TREES THEY GO, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT.
DO WE CHARGE FITNESS CENTERS? NO.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE LEGAL, UH, SINCE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT SUVS AND ALL.
MEL, I'M GONNA DRIFT OFF A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT IT WILL STAY IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT CITIES CAN AND CANNOT DO.
IF YOU NOTICE THE CHURCH FILED SUIT AGAINST THE WAREHOUSE, THE CITY DID NOT IN DALLAS, ON I I 20.
IT WAS GONNA GO WAREHOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND THE CHURCH FILED SUIT TO PREVENT 'EM FROM BUILDING.
THE BUILDER DECIDED TO PULL BACK DOWN AND WORK WITH THE CHURCH TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.
BUT THE CITY DID NOT FILE SUIT BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ZONING AND IT WAS, UH, THE BIG FELLOWSHIP WEST.
FRIENDSHIP WEST, FRIENDSHIP WEST BECAUSE THEY, AND SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHAT'S THE CITY GOING DO? CITY STAYED OUT OF IT.
'CAUSE THEY HAD HIS OWN, THEY WERE PROBABLY ROOTING FAR
BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO FOLLOW THAT.
AND I BET THEY COULD WORK OUT SOME TYPE OF DEAL.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD DID THIS INSTEAD OF THAT TO MAKE IT,
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YOU KNOW? UH, BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST WOULD'VE BEEN INTERESTING TO ME IF IT HAD GONE TO COURT AND IT STILL MAY.UM, I ACTUALLY HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.
ABOUT 29 RASH ANOTHER QUESTION.
29 RASHAD HOTEL CAN, SO THEY MAY THINK TO THEMSELVES, WELL IT SAYS HERE, HOTEL.
NOW YOU GUYS SAY NO TO HOTELS.
NOW IF THEY CAME BACK WITH RETAIL, THEY COULD REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE.
WE CAN'T TELL THEM WE WILL APPROVE IT, BUT WE WOULD, LIKE, IF THEY CAME BACK WITH RETAIL, THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO US DEPENDING ON THE USES.
AND IF WE MADE THAT COMMENT TO THEM, I HAD ECONOMIC DEVELOP TEAM ON HAND TO WHERE IF THE SUVS GET DENIED, THEY HAD MENTIONED THE IDEA OF MULTIFAMILY.
PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY FOR THEM TO DEVELOP.
AND WHAT DID YOU SAY? I EXPLAINED TO THEM, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US FIRST SO WE CAN POSSIBLY FACILITATE SOME OTHER ENTERTAINMENT.
FOCUS REMOTE FOCUS ON THAT, ON THAT CORRIDOR THEN
SO, SO TO BE PLAIN, THEY COULD PUT THE APARTMENTS THEREBY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
NOW I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT AS LEVERAGE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA TRY TO DO.
BUT AGAIN, UH, JUST LET'S SAY THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL PLAN DOESN'T SHOW APARTMENT AND THEY'RE AWARE OF OUR DESIRE THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN DOES NOT SHOW APARTMENTS.
BUT THE ZONING, WELL, I'D ALMOST BE WILLING TO FIGHT THAT DEAL.
I THINK, I THINK I'D BE, I I THINK I'D BE WILLING TO GO TO COURT ON THAT.
YEAH, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE TOUGH.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES FOLKS, WELL NEVERMIND FAR AS THE HOTEL, WE DID SHARE WITH THEM THAT RECESS.
THE PLAYGROUND INSTEAD OF DOING ONE OF, THEY ALREADY HAVE THESE USERS IN TO.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, WELL, DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE THEY DEAL WITH THIS BRAND AND THIS LEVEL BRAND, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY RELATE IT.
WE RATHER HAVE, SO A YEAR FROM NOW WE MAY WANT ANOTHER.
AND ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT AFTER WHO, WHO WORKS WITH A YEAR FROM NOW, WE MAY WANT ANOTHER THAT TELL US STUDY THAT WAS DONE DID SHOW THAT THIS PART OF THE CITY THEY DIDN'T FIND WAS RIGHT YET.
AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? COME BACK IN A YEAR AND THEY'LL DO ANOTHER STUDY FOR A, A FOUR STAR.
THE STUDY, IF THINGS GET BUILT OUT, COULD SUPPORT IT ONE DAY, IT WILL SUPPORT IT MAYBE SOONER THAN LATER.
BUT I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT.
I NEED TO SAY THAT THREE TIMES.
WE DO NOT HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
WE DO HAVE, WE ARE GONNA RECESS AND HAVE DINNER IN THE DINING ROOM.