* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] WELCOME TO THE [Planning and Zoning Briefing Session] STAFF BRIEFING FOR THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THIS STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:34 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE CHERYL SMITH. HERE, CALL RAMIREZ. MICHELLE MADDEN. HERE. TY CHAPMAN. HERE. FRANK GONZALEZ. HERE. JULIA PEREZ. HERE. ANNA COCA JOHN FCO. HERE. CHRISTOPHER KOOLE. HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS OF PRESENT EXCEPT FOR CARL RAMIREZ AND ANNA COCO GO. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. ARE THERE ANY HONORS WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. STAFF, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT? HELLO? JUNE. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. SO THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A SIP PLAN STP 23 12 0 0 2 8. THIS IS FOR A PRO WEST CLIP MULTI-FAMILY. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF FISH CREEK, UM, NORTH OF I 20, UM, EAST OF WESTCLIFF ROAD. SO THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, SO THE, THIS AREA WAS ZONED AS A PD 18 BACK IN 1972. THEY CAME AROUND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED. SO THE APPLICANT IS FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE SITE PLAN BEFORE THEY GO INTO OTHER DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS. SO THIS IS THE GENERAL AREA. AS YOU KIND OF REMEMBER FROM THE DECEMBER MEETING, THIS WAS THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS AND THE HISTORY OF THE CASE. SO AS A PART OF THE SITE PLAN, STAFF HAS REVIEWED WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE APPROVED DURING THE CONCEPT PLAN. THEY'RE PROVIDING 300 UNITS SPREAD AMONG 10 BUILDINGS. THE ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED FROM THE, UH, INTERSTATE 20 AND NO ACCESS FROM THE FISH CREEK ROAD. UH, NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT. THEY'RE MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. THEY HAVE SHOWN THE AMENITIES, WHICH INCLUDES THE POOL, THE DOG PARK, AND THE CLUBHOUSE. HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL ENHANCED LANDSCAPE WHERE THE ENTRANCES ARE PROVIDED WHERE THEY'LL BE MOST VISIBLE FROM THE STREET VIEW. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE THREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENT AS WELL. THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED, BUT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW. THEY ARE PROVIDING THE AMENITIES REQUIRED BY THE APPENDIX W STANDARD. THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND THE RC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. THESE DWELLINGS, ARE THEY GONNA BE TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS? THESE WILL BE ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS. THERE'LL BE 300 UNITS. IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE KIND OF A TRANSITIONAL LOOKING. SO THIS IS KIND OF A RENDERING, I THINK THAT DOES THE BEST JOB OF DESCRIBING THE FINAL PRODUCT. AND THEN THEY, DID THEY HAVE ANY, UM, ANY REMARKS FROM THE COMMUNITY AT ALL? ANY LETTERS OR OPPOSITION OR NOT FOR THE STIPEND? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, TP 2 4 0 1 0 0 1. THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR CRUNCH FITNESS, LOCATED AT 3 1 1 6 SOUTH HIGHWAY 1 61. IT'S AN EPIC WEST, WHICH IS ZONED PD 3 6 4, WHICH HAS A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL. THE SEP PROPERTY IS 3.499 ACRES. SO IT'S ABOUT THREE THIRD, THREE, SORRY, SUPER BOWL. AWESOME. I'M STILL KIND OF TIRED. 35,000 SQUARE FOOT GYM. THEY ARE MEETING OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS AND THEY ARE MEETING OUR APPENDIX F STANDARDS. SO THIS IS IN ONE OF OUR QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS. SO IT DOES HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET. UM, THEY ARE REQUIRING A VARIANCE FOR PARKING, BUT I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A FEW SLIDES. SO THEY ARE MEETING OR EXCEEDING ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL IN APPENDIX F. SEE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THEY'RE MEETING ALMOST ALL OF [00:05:01] THE STANDARDS HERE. THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES FOR THE WINDOWS, WHICH AGAIN, I'LL TOUCH ON IN JUST A SECOND. YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE MEETING OUR A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY CONTENT. THEY'RE PROVIDING A NUMBER OF OUR APPENDIX F MENU ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. SO IN APPENDIX F, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 12 POINTS OFF THE APPENDIX F MENU. THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING FOR US. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES. THE FIRST IS THE REQUIRED PARKING. SO WHEN OUR CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS PARKING ACTS AS MAXIMUMS INSTEAD OF MINIMUMS. AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ADD THREE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS IN APPENDIX F. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE COMPENSATORY MEASURES, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON IN MY NEXT SLIDE AS PART OF OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SO THE MAXIMUM PARKING IS TWO 30. THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR 233. THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES TO THE GLAZING TO THE WINDOW REQUIREMENTS IN APPENDIX F. THE FIRST IS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM 50% GLAZING OF THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR SIDES TO ALLOW FOR 32.5% GLAZING. SO THAT'S THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR OF THE FACADES. THE SECOND VARIANCE IS THE GLAZING TO THE PRIMARY FACADE THAT WILL FACE ESPANADE. IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST 30% OF THE AREA BE GLAZING. THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO 12%. I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT. THEY FEEL BECAUSE OF THE USE, THE TYPE OF USE IT BEING A GYM, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT CUSTOMERS BEING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH JUST A TON OF WINDOWS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH, UM, WHILE THEY'RE WORKING OUT. SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PROVIDING THAT AMOUNT OF GLAZING. SO THE RC DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SO THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE EITHER PERAL PAVING MATERIALS OR COMPACT PARKING SPACES AS COMPENSATORY MEASURES FOR 50% OF PARKING SPACES ABOVE THE MAXIMUM. THAT'S ARE REQUIRED BY APPENDIX F. SO AN APPENDIX F, IF YOU'RE OVER THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED FOR 50% OF WHAT YOU'RE OVER, YOU HAVE TO EITHER PROVIDE PERMEABLE PAVING OR YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE COMPACT SPACES. SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'D HAVE TO PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPACES WITH ONE OF THOSE. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATIONS. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I'M CURIOUS. SO IF THEY WERE TO MAKE MAYBE TWO OF THE EXTRA SPACES OR A COUPLE OF THEIR OTHER SPACES IN THE STANDARD 230, IF THEY HAD MADE THEM A DA, WHICH WOULD'VE MADE THEM BIGGER, WOULD THAT HAVE BROUGHT THEM DOWN? SO IT'S OVERALL PARKING ADAS INCLUDED IN THAT. SO I, BUT I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS A DA IS WIDER AND BIGGER PARKING MM-HMM . AND SO IT WOULD'VE MADE TWO, PROBABLY ONE A DA. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WOULD THAT HAVE WORKED TO BACK THEM UP AND GIVE THEM THE TWO 30? MAYBE? I'M GONNA, I'M, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. OKAY. IT'S OKAY. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. SO AN 88 SPACE TAKES MORE SURFACE AREA THAN A NORMAL SPACE. SO IF YOU PUT IN MORE A DA SPACES AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME GEOGRAPHICAL SPACE TO START WITH, HER QUESTION IS, DOES THAT GET THEM DOWN TO TWO 30? IT COULD POTENTIALLY, YEAH. THEY, BUT THEY, THEY SPOKE TO THEIR CLIENTS AND THEY SAID THEY COULD, UH, THEY SAID THAT THEY'VE SPOKEN TO THEIR CLIENTS AND THIS IS ABOUT WHAT THEIR CLIENTS SEE AS REQUIRED FOR THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THE VARIANCE. OKAY. RASHARD, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? NO, I THINK, I THINK THEY GOT IT. UM, I WOULD THINK THERE WOULDN'T NOT BE A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN A 80 DA PARKING SPACE AND A REQUIRED PARKING SPACE IN REGARDS TO OUR CALCULATIONS. SO THE, THE 88 PARKING SPACE IS GONNA BE REQUIRED ANYWAY BY THE T-D-A-L-A-R. UM, SO THAT'S THE, MY VIEW. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CITY BREAK OUT THE TWO. I DO KNOW THAT THERE NORMALLY THERE ARE FIVE TO SEVEN OR 10, UH, HANDICAP SPACES RIGHT NEAR THE FRONT OF ANY FACILITY. AND MY CONCERN IS THESE CARS AND TRUCKS ARE HUGE. NOW, I'M HOPING THEY TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES THESE OLDER PLACES YOU TRY TO PARK AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM IN BETWEEN THE CARS. SO I'M ASSUMING ALL THAT'S, UH, TAKING PLACE. WE HAVE PARKING STANDARDS. YEAH. SO PARKING, STANDARD PARKING SPACE IS NINE BY 18, WHICH IS REQUIRED. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS IS A A A HEALTH SPOT. A HEALTH. WHAT IS A HEALTH? IT'S A GYM CRUNCH. FITNESS CRUNCH GYM. SO IS THERE ANYTHING COMPARABLE TO THAT BESIDES THE EPIC AND, UH, THE SUMMIT NEARBY? IS THAT IN THAT AREA? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. THERE'S ONE ON 3 0 3 THOUGH. I THINK IT'S CALLED PLANET FITNESS ON PIONEER. OH YES. THERE IS A PLANET, YES. OKAY. WELL I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THE ITEM NUMBER 10 IS ANOTHER SITE PLAN CONSIDERATION, STP 2 3 0 5 0 0 0 9. SO THIS IS FOR A, UH, FLEX LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE PROPOSED SITE, THE NORTH OF IT IS ACTUALLY CITY OF ARLINGTON BOUNDARY. IT IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH. AND THEY ABUT A MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST. UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TWO WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS AND THE ACREAGE IS 5.4 ACRES. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO THIS KIND OF HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE, KIND OF, WHERE [00:10:01] THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AND WHAT IS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. THERE ARE ALREADY EXISTING, LIKE A KIND OF A OLDER MIDDLE, UM, WAREHOUSE IS IN THAT AREA THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, THE USE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO BUILDINGS. THE BUILDING ONE CLOSER TO THE ARKANSAS LANE. THIS WILL BE SHORTER BUILDING. UM, SO THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE A LOT OF JUST REALLY BIG HEIGHT TRANSITIONING FROM MULTIFAMILY TO THE, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THEY'RE PROPOSING ANOTHER BUILDING. IT IS GOING TO BE REAL LITTLE BIT TALLER. THEY ARE PROVIDING THESE SCREENING WALLS TO BE ABLE TO BLOCK OFF THE VIEW OF THE DOCK DOORS FROM ANYBODY USING THE ARROW DRIVE AS A ACCESS TO THESE PROPERTIES. SO THEY ARE MEETING THE UDC REQUIREMENT FURTHER THAN CITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO THE PARKING STANDARD. THEY ARE PROVIDING THESE LANDSCAPE PER OUR UDC REQUIREMENT. AND THEN HERE'S THE KIND OF A GOOD RENDERING OF WHAT THE PURPOSE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS THE BUILDING ONE, THE SHORTER BUILDING. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THIS RENDERING HOW THE BUILDING HAS SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHT. SO THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION AWAY FROM THE ARKANSAS WILL BE SLIGHTLY TALLER. SO THESE ARE THE BUILDING ONE, THE SHORTER BUILDING WITH MULTITENANT. AND THIS IS THE LARGER BUILDING WITH A LITTLE BIT TALLER HEIGHT. THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE APPENDIX X STANDARD FOR THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND THIS IS THE BUILDING TWO. THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND DRC STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? DID YOU GET ANY LETTERS BACK OR ANYTHING? NO MA'AM. IT'S INTERESTING. NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL THERE. YEAH, I THINK PART OF IT IS THAT IT'S A, A MULTIFAMILY, BUT ALSO STAFF HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE, UM, THE APPLICANT. SO THEY ARE PUSHING, ACTUALLY BUILDING 50 FEET AWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE. AND ON THE NORTH OF THAT PROPERTY LINE, THE APARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS 60 FOOT. SO THEY HAVE A ROW PARKING DRIVE AISLE AND A ROW PARKING BEFORE EVEN THE BUILDING STARTS. SO THAT GIVES THEM GOOD 120, 110 FEET AWAY FROM THESE BUILDINGS. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MATT? MM-HMM . I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT. UM, SO THIS BUILDING MM-HMM. THE RENDERING OF IT IS FANTASTIC IN COMPARISON TO THE EXISTING. SO I WOULD SAY THAT ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THOSE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA GET TO SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND SHIELD IT FROM THE EXISTING. IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. I NOTICED THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. AND ALSO, UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING THESE ADDITIONAL, UM, RURAL TREES. SO THAT WILL SOFTEN THE LOOK OF THE, UM, INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. MM-HMM . I HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR MY OWN INFORMATION. JUNE? YES. WHEN WE SEND OUT NOTICES, SO SITE PLANS, WE DO NOT FOR THE PON LIST, BUT WE DO POST THE SIGNS RIGHT AT THAT SITE LOCATION SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING BY CAN LOOK AT IT. 'CAUSE THIS IS SITE PLAN REQUEST, YES. MM-HMM . BUT WHEN WE DO SEND OUT NOTICES MM-HMM . DO WE SEND THEM TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY? THE RESIDENCES OF THE PROPERTY? WE SEND IT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT. MM-HMM . SO IF IT WENT TO AN APARTMENT BUILDING, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE THAT THE RESIDENCE WOULD GET THE NOTICE. RIGHT. HOWEVER, SOME, IF YOU REMEMBER THE DENA TOWN HOMES, UM, THEY WERE ABUTTING A FOURPLEX. AND THOSE TIMES, ACTUALLY THE RESIDENTS WERE THE ONES WHO CALLED. ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT RECEIVE A LETTER DIRECTLY, THEY'LL STILL SEE THE SIGNS. IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, THEY'LL USUALLY REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND ASKING WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS ABOUT. BUT THAT IS A GOOD COMMENT THOUGH. THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO RECEIVED THOSE LETTERS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. THE NEXT ITEMS ARE 11 AND 12. THEY'RE COMPANION ITEMS, SO I'LL PRESENT THEM TOGETHER. IT'S FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IS ZONE CHANGE AT 11 0 2, 11 0 6, AND 1110, UH, DALWORTH AVENUE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTHWEST CORNER OF DALWORTH, DALWORTH STREET AND NORTHWEST 11TH STREET FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PORTION. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS MIXED USE REPRESENTED IN BLUE HERE. THE PROPOSAL IS TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE ZONE CHANGE, WHICH IT CURRENTLY IS ZONED GENERAL RETAIL, WHICH PROHIBITS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THE PROPOSED USE FOR THESE THREE PARCELS IS, IS, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH LOT IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. THE PROPERTY IS, UH, 0.65 ACRES IN TOTAL. THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES. STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST SINCE THE SINGLE FAMILY USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. HOWEVER, IT MATCHES THE PREDOMINANT AREA, UH, OR THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THE PROPERTIES. SO TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, SOUTHWEST IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY. UH, TO THE EAST THERE IS, UH, AN INSURANCE OFFICE. AND TO THE SOUTH, WELL SOUTHEAST CORNER, THERE IS, UH, A GROCERY [00:15:01] STORE. SO PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY THOUGH. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? COMMISSIONERS? IT SEEMS A LITTLE ODD TO ME. I MEAN THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO BUILD ON, BUILD ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT I GUESS THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS ON THAT. THAT AREA HAS BEEN TRANSITIONING ON BOTH SIDES OF 1 61 2 RESIDENTIAL. MM-HMM . A LOT OF THOSE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE ZONING WAS CHANGED, BUT THAT HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL AND PLATTED AS SUCH FOR YEARS. AND THE ZONING WAS CHANGED AT SOME TIME, I GUESS IN THE EIGHTIES TO GENERAL RETAIL. I GUESS THE IDEA WAS BEFORE 1 61 WENT THROUGH MM-HMM . DALWORTH WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR LEADING FROM CARRIER. IT, OF COURSE, 1 61 KIND OF DISSECTED THAT AND NOW THESE HOMES ARE SITTING AND THESE LOTS ARE SITTING AND PEOPLE ARE COMING IN WANTING TO TRANSITION IT TO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL. I WOULD RATHER SEE RESIDENTIAL ANY DAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND LOWER DENSITY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 13, WHICH IS A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR ARTICLE NINE SIGN STANDARDS. UH, SPECIFICALLY BEING MURALS. SO CURRENTLY MURALS ARE ALLOWED IN CENTRAL AREA, DISTRICT ONLY, UH, MURALS OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL AREA. ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW MURALS IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS BY RIDE. OF COURSE, THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT, UH, OR A SIGNED PERMIT, BUT, UH, IT WILL BE ALLOWED BY RIDE. IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO THE IMAGE HERE, UH, BELOW IN RED IS WHAT DEPICTS WHAT'S BEING CHANGED OR OMITTED FROM THE UDC TO ALLOW MURALS IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS. AND THAT'S JUST A GREAT MURAL FOR AN EXAMPLE THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. CITY, UH, CCDC AND DRC ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION COMMISSIONER MADDEN. SO ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CAN BE IN THOSE MURALS? OR DO THE MURALS HAVE TO BE, UM, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT NORMALLY IF THEY'D BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL AREA, THEY HAD TO GET APPROVED. SO NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE A, A SIGN PERMIT. BUT THE CONTENT OF IT, IS THAT REVIEWED AT ALL OR NO? SO NOT THE CONTENT. WE CANNOT REVIEW, UH, WE CANNOT REGULATE CONTENT. OKAY. MM-HMM . INTERESTING. THANK YOU. THAT SCARES ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SOME EXPLICIT, UH, MURIELS, I'D BE CONCERNED. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED AREA OF LAW. UM, AND SO SOMEONE CAN'T JUST GO ON PAINT ON THEIR WALL, SOMETHING THAT IS OBSCENE THAT, THAT, UM, THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD FIND, UM, OBSCENE. SO THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS TO IT. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTION'S GONNA LET SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, PAINT A MURAL ON, ON THEIR WALL. AND WE, WE, WE CAN'T REGULATE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTENT OF IT. WELL, THAT APPARENTLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A DRAFT OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA PUT IT ON THE WALL. I'M ASSUMING WE WILL, THAT YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO VIEW ALL OF THIS. WE WILL REVIEW THE PERMITS. WE REVIEW THE PERMITS NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE THE STIPULATION THAT THESE ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS. MM-HMM . OKAY. AS WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA AND THOSE REQUESTS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A STAGE OF GOING TO COUNCIL, AND IT JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE A NECESSARY STEP, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THESE ENTERTAINMENT AREAS THAT WE'RE PROMOTING NOW, UM, I CAN FORESEE EPIC HAVING THIS PIONEER PARKWAY, SOME BUSINESSES THERE AGE OF TIMES SQUARE. SO THE IDEA IS TO REMOVE SOME OF THE RED TAPE. IF THERE'S SOME CONCERN WITH IT, PLEASE LET US KNOW. THE, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, UH, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT TASTE THAN WHAT THEY CONSIDER ART. I AGREE. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE, AND IF IT'S NOT A FACADE, IF IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH, YOU GOT SOMETHING WAY CRAZY OVER HERE AND SOMETHING NORMAL OVER HERE, IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM TO ME. IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE THE LOOK WE WANT IN THE CITY. WELL, WE STILL ALLOW THESE IN THE CENTRAL AREA AND WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THEY PUT UP THERE EITHER. SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING IT. AND WE, WE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT COM, UH, COMMITTEE, AND THEY TOLD US TO BRING IT FORTH. SO Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION WILL BE FORWARDED ON TO COUNCIL. SO IF Y'ALL HAVE CONCERNS AND DON'T WANNA PROVE IT, WE'LL, WE'LL LET THAT BE KNOWN. COMMISSIONER MADDEN. SO ARE THERE, UM, ARE THERE ANY RULES ABOUT LIKE, JUST ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE CITY VULGARITY WITH REGARD TO DISPLAYS? I, I DON'T KNOW. AND I'M ASKING, NOT THAT I KNOW THAT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. YEAH. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS. DO YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF HAND? I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. UM, I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SIGN ORDINANCE. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. I THINK MOST OF OUR REGULATIONS APPROACH SIGNS [00:20:01] FROM A DILAPIDATION STANDPOINT, NUISANCE IN THAT REGARD. MM-HMM . CITY CODE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE IMAGE AND WHAT THEY'RE PORTRAYING. SO AT THIS POINT, AND I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE RESIDENCES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CENTRAL AREA, BUT AT THIS POINT, SOMEONE COULD PAINT WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT I'M LOOKING OUT FROM MY KITCHEN WINDOW, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME FORWARD FOR ANY APPROVAL IF THIS WERE APPROVED. IS THAT, OTHER THAN A SIGNED PERMIT? RIGHT. ASSIGNED PERMIT WILL STILL BE REQUIRED. AND WHEN THE SIGNED PERMIT COMES THROUGH, WE DO SEE A SAMPLE IMAGE OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT BEFORE THE PERMIT IS APPROVED. BUT THERE'S NO, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CRITERIA FOR DENYING IT AT THIS POINT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S JUST THAT YOU SEE IT AND THEN IT GOES ON FROM THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF THE PERMIT PROCESS. THERE ARE SIGNAGE DIMENSIONS THAT THEY MUST MEET, ADHERE TO MM-HMM . BUT, UM, AND MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THIS IS INTENDED TO ONLY BE FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL INTENDED AREAS. OKAY. YEAH. SO IF WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER KO, SO THIS WOULD ALLOW MURALS IN EVERY DISTRICT, DOES THE ARTIST GET SOME SORT OF PROPERTY RIGHT TO THAT WALL? OR IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE PAINTED OVER LATER SUBSEQUENTLY, IF THE OWNER OF THAT WALL SAYS, GOOD, GOOD QUESTION. IF I BELIEVE THE OWNER OF THE WALL WANTS TO PAINT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEY CAN OR HAVE IT DONE DIFFERENTLY, I'M NOT SURE IF THE PART JUST GETS SOME RIGHTS TO IT OR NOT. THANK YOU. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? THANK YOU. I, SO FOLLOWING RASHAD'S, UH, COMMENT, UH, ARE YOU INDICATING THAT, UM, THE, THIS IS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? RIGHT. NOT SO MUCH HOMES. CORRECT. CORRECT. I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE IN JUST LIKE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND ONLY THE CA DISTRICT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A, A COMMERCIAL TYPE OF SIGNAGE OR JUST RIGHT VIBRANCY FOR THE, FOR THE AREA. AND WE GOT SOME ON DOLORES HUTA. WE HAVE ONE AS YOU ENTER IN ON MAIN STREET, THE POLICE OFFICERS, UM, ONE'S THE BOXING, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE ON JEFFERSON AS YOU'RE GOING TOWARD ARLINGTON OF THE COWBOYS. UH, THOSE ARE WONDERFUL. YEAH. , WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARTY. I KNOW. THIS IS, THIS IS, I, WE WEREN'T IN CONTROL OF THOSE MM-HMM . AND WHAT WAS PUT UP THERE. SO THAT, THAT IS THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING IT NOW. IF Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP IT LIMITED TO THE CA DISTRICT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. UH, THIS IS JUST INTENDED TO REMOVE SOME RED TAPE WITH OUR REVIEWS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MURALS, IT'S JUST THAT THEY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WA THEY NEED TO HAVE OVERSIGHT. MM-HMM . IT JUST TRUE OVERSIGHT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES ON THE WAY. SO NO, WE DON'T LIKE THAT ONE. CAN YOU TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE LAST WORD? I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT WE OPENING OURSELVES UP FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT, FROM A SIGNAGE STANDPOINT, LEGAL SEES THIS AS A FREEDOM OF SPEECH. RIGHT. AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T RESTRICT THAT. I'VE TALKED TO, PRIOR TO MATTHEW, IT WAS MARK WHO WAS EXPLAINING THIS. SO, UM, THAT HAS BEEN LEGAL'S VIEW ON THIS. YEAH. IF IT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING BASICALLY WHAT INSIDE, LIKE THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE SIGN AND DECIDING LIKE THE CONTENT OF THE SIGN, IF YOU'RE DECIDING WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE IT OR NOT BASED ON WHAT'S IN IT, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASING OUT ON THE CONTENT. AND, AND THAT'S WHEN THE CITY COULD GET IN TROUBLE WHEN THE LI FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I CAN LEAST IT'S BEING RESTRICTED AGAIN, GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, NON-RESIDENTIAL THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KEY THERE BECAUSE YOU OPEN IT UP TO RESIDENCE AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOES AT THAT POINT. RIGHT? RIGHT. I MEAN, AT LEAST BUSINESSES WILL HAVE THE MINDSET OF HAVING TO HAVE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WOULD BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE CLIENTS OR AT LEAST, UH, TRY TO CATER OR TURN 'EM AWAY. RIGHT. OR TURN 'EM AWAY. RIGHT. SO, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THE ITEM 14 ON THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS SUP. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND A SITE PLAN FOR FOUNDRY HOTELS. SO THE APPLICANT WISHES TO PROPOSE TWO HOTELS ON, UM, WEST SIDE OF THE, UM, 1 61. THE ZONING ACTUALLY ALLOWS A USE WITH AN SUP APPROVAL. THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO DIFFERENT HOTELS. SO WITH THIS BEING THE NORTH, THEY'RE UH, PROPOSING ONE, [00:25:01] UM, HOTEL CALLED SPRING HILL SUITE. THIS WILL BE A UPSCALE FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH 1 25 ROOMS. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A TOWN PLACE SUITE, WHICH IS A UPPER MIDSCALE FOUR STORY 104 ROOMS. AND THIS WILL HAVE THE EXTENDED STAY OPTION. SO BEFORE GOING INTO TOO MUCH INTO THOSE DETAILS, I JUST WANNA COVER SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AS THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, HOTEL CASES THAT I RE RECALL ARE BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. SO THE UDC HAS, UM, CONCENTRATION LIMITATIONS. SO THEY BASE THOSE ON THE, WHAT THEY CALL A STR RATING SMITH TRAVEL RESEARCH. UM, SO THIS IS NOT THE STAR RATING, WHICH REALLY RATES THE HOTELS BY THE QUALITY OF A HOTEL. THIS ACTUALLY RATES THE HOTELS BY AVERAGE RATE PER DAY DAILY AVERAGE RATE. SO THIS, THEY SAY THIS IS MORE A BETTER PROJECTION ON THE DEMAND OF THE HOTEL ITSELF. SO THIS FLUCTUATES BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE PRICE AND UM, IT'S KIND OF RESEARCHED THROUGHOUT THE NORTH AMERICA, THROUGHOUT THE GLOBAL SCALE RATING. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR UDC SAYS YOU CAN HAVE ONLY SO MANY HOTELS OF SAME CATEGORY WITHIN ONE MILE. ARE WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE NOW? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. SO HOW DO WE RE REGULATE? WHAT KIND OF HOTEL CAN COME IN AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THE QUALITY? SO UDC HAS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT CALLED AMENITIES AND BASED ON THEIR RANKING, IF THEY'RE UPSCALE HOTEL, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THESE TYPE OF AMENITIES, THIS TYPE OF SQUARE FEET AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE REQUESTS AND THE VARIANCE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, AS YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF, UM, EXISTING HOTELS WERE FAIRLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF I 20 OR, OR ALONG I 20. I THINK IN THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS OR SO, WE HAVE SEEN THREE NEW HOTELS COME IN MORE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES THE RESIDENCE IN BY THE MAIN EVENT AND THE HOMELESS SUITE AND THE HILTON GARDEN IN BY THE EPIC CENTRAL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS KIND OF SHOWN HERE WITH A TOWN PLACE IN THE SPRING HILL SUITE. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING ONE, UM, EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. SO EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IS A SUBCLASS. THAT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE KITCHEN SUITE WITH KITCHEN. SO IF YOU WANTED TO STAY FOR LONGER THAN 30 DAYS OR SO, YOU ACTUALLY CAN BUY, YOU KNOW, BRINGING FOOD AND COOK COOKING THERE. SO THIS IS JUST A SUBCATEGORY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WITHIN THIS ONE MILE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR MIDSCALE HOTELS, FIVE UPSCALE HOTELS. I'M SORRY. THE LIMIT IS FOUR MIDDLE SCALE AND FIVE UPSCALE AND TWO EXTENDED STATE HOTEL. THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE MIDSCALE EXTENDED HOTEL AND ONE UPPER SCALE HOTEL. SO BASED ON THAT, THEY'RE FINE WITH THE MIDDLE SCALE HOTEL. HOWEVER, FOR THE UPSCALE HOTEL AND FOR THE EXTENDED STATE HOTEL, THEY'LL BE GOING OVER THE MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION ALLOWED. SO THIS IS KIND OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE. ARE THEY EXTENDED STAY? WHAT IS THE SURVEY AND WHAT ARE THEY PROPOSING AND HOW DO THEY PUT THEM IN TERMS OF CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT? SO HERE'S WHAT THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE AMENITY REQUIREMENT, BUT REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES. ONE IS THAT WE ACTUALLY REQUIRE 3000 SQUARE FEET WATER SURFACE 'CAUSE IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE. AND, UM, NONE OF THE HOTELS IN THIS GRANDPARENT CURRENTLY HAS THAT. IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S PART OF THE ORDINANCE. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING REDUCTION OF THAT POOL. HOWEVER, AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THEY'RE PROVIDING OUTDOOR PATIO AREA. THEY'RE PROVIDING SUBSTANTIAL OUTDOOR PATIO SEATING, GRILLS, AMENITIES. SO THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH POOL IS NOT AS BIG AS 3000 SQUARE FEET, THERE IS PLENTY OF OUTDOOR SPACES THAT THE CUSTOMER CAN USE AS AN AMENITY. UH, ANOTHER THING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THE SPRINGS HOTEL, UH, HILL STREET HOTEL, BECAUSE IT'S A UPSCALE HOTEL, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MEETING ROOM. THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE MEETING ROOM SIZE REQUIREMENT OF 10,000. HOWEVER, THEY'RE PROVIDING TWO, UH, 2200. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY ARE CLOSE TO A LOT OF THE CITY VENUES. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, EPIC AND OTHER PLACES, WE HAVE A VENUE TO HOLD THE CONVENTIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM IN THOSE SPACES, TYPICALLY LARGE HOTELS, UPSCALE HOTELS AND LUXURY HOTELS, PEOPLE LIKE TO BOOK THAT TO HOLD AN EVENT SO THEY CAN INVITE ALL THE ATTENDEES TO THE HOTEL. SO I BELIEVE THAT IS THE INTENT FOR THIS REQUIREMENT. UM, THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE EXACT NUMBER OF REQUIREMENT, HOWEVER, THEY'RE PROVIDING OTHER ADMITTING NEEDS TO COMPENSATE FOR WHAT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING. SO THE TOWN PLACE SUITES, THEY ARE PROVIDING ALL THE REQUIREMENT, UH, WITH ONE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE POOL SIZE ALSO TO BE SMALLER THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED. SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE VARIANCES. THERE ARE FIVE, TWO OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THE SCALE RATING AND THE CONCENTRATION THAT I COVER. TWO OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THE POOL SIZE AND THE [00:30:01] OFFICE SPACE. ONE IS FOR THE SCREENING WALL. SO LET ME GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE FOR THE SCREENING WALL. SO BECAUSE THEY ARE A BUDDING RESIDENTIAL HERE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF A MASONRY SCREENING WALL. HOWEVER, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE APPROVED THE AND CALERA AREA, WE REALLY WANTED THIS AREA TO KIND OF BE, UM, BE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN WALK FROM THE RESTAURANT TO THE HOTEL TO THE TRAIL. SO THERE IS THE TRAIL THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. STAFF FELT THAT HAVING A WALL TO BLOCK THE ACCESS TO THE TRAIL WOULD KIND OF WORK AGAINST THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS AREA, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEY'LL HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE WALL TO GET TO THE TRAIL. SO STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST FOR THE SCREENING WALL VARIANCES. AGAIN, THE TWO VARIANCES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE POOL SIZE AND THE MEETING ROOM SIZE. AGAIN, THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE. THEY'RE PROVIDING THE BEST THEY CAN. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE THAT, UH, AMENITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE EXISTING HOTEL STATUS. AND I'LL CHECK AGAIN, THE OTHER TWO ARE FOR THE CONCENTRATION TO GO BACK TO THE CHART TWO, THIS KINDA SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THEY ARE, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MID-SCALE, BUT UPSCALE, WE LIMIT THEM AT FIVE. THERE ARE EXISTING FIVE HOTELS, THEY'RE ADDING ONE MORE. STEPH THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY BETTER BECAUSE THAT WAY WE ACTUALLY GET A BETTER SCALE RATED HOTELS IF THEY WERE NOT GRANTED THAT BIG GREENS, THEY COULD GO DOWN TO ECONOMY OR MIDLEVEL AND TRY TO, UH, AT A HOTEL THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CONCENTRATION. IT'S JUST THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LOT OF UPPER SCALE OR UPPER MISS SCALE HOTELS WITHIN THE AREA. SO STAFF FELT THAT THIS VARIANCE WAS ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPOSED HOTELS ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM THE EXISTING HOTELS, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NEW HOTELS IN THE AREA. THIS PROPOSAL IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE, UM, THE NEW, UM, ATTRACTIONS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, WHICH INCLUDES THE BIG SHOTS. BASS PRO AND ANDREA'S IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THOSE PLACES ON 1 61. SO IF YOU WERE TO STAY IN ONE OF THE NEWER HOTELS TO THE NORTH, THEY'LL HAVE TO TRAVEL A HALF A MILE OVER HERE. YOU'LL ONLY HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET. SO WITH DIPPING SAYS THAT IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT, UH, COMPLY WITH THE UDC CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, STAFF WANTS TO KNOW THAT THE PROPOSED POOL SIZE AND MEETING ROOM SIZE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WET CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FOR OTHER HOTELS. AND ALSO THE SPRING HILL STREET HOTEL WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UPSCALE HOTEL WITHIN ONE MILE. UM, HOWEVER, THE ECONOMY OR INDEPENDENT HOTEL AT THIS LOCATION WOULD NOT EXIST THE CONS, UH, CONCENTRATION. HOWEVER, STAFF BELIEVE THAT UPSCALE IS PROBABLY BETTER ALTERNATIVE FOR THIS AREA. THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION, I WILL GUESS. UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAS QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE TWO HOTELS AS PART OF THIS? YES MA'AM. OKAY. YES MA'AM. AND WHICH ONE IS THE EXTENDED STAY? YES. SO THE TOWN PLACE HOTEL TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS THE EXTENDED STAY. SO THIS ONE WILL BE THE EXTENDED STAY. OKAY. THIS ONE WILL BE THE UPSCALE MM-HMM . SO NOT TO PRE-JUDGE, BUT MM-HMM . YOU KNOW THAT THIS, THOSE EXTENDED STAYS HAVE THE KITCHEN, HAVE THE LITTLE DINING AREA. MM-HMM . HAVE A BEDROOM WITH A DOOR MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO IS THERE ANYTHING TO PREVENT DOWN THE LINE 10 YEARS MM-HMM . FROM THOSE BECOMING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT EXCHANGING HANDS AND THEN BECOMING ACTUAL RESIDENCES. I'VE, I'VE WORKED NEAR SOME EXTENDED STAY HOTELS MM-HMM . WHERE I SAW CHILDREN, THEY ALL LIVED THERE AND THEY ALL HAD A BUS STOP OUT FRONT. RIGHT? NOT, SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY REQUIREMENT AT THIS TIME THAT WE CAN PUT ON THIS, BUT, UM, LAST CITY I WORKED WITH, THEY ACTUALLY HAD OLDER HOTELS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE LATE, UM, NINETIES AND TWO THOUSANDS THAT MM-HMM . UH, THESE DEVELOPERS CAME AND THEY SPECIALIZED IN CONVERTING THE UNDERUSE HOTELS INTO MULTIFAMILY. HOWEVER, ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW THAT USE BECAUSE YOU NEED A RESIDENTIAL ZONING FOR THOSE TO BE CONVERTED INTO RESIDENCES. SO THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I COULD THINK OF THAT, BECAUSE THE ZONING RIGHT NOW HERE IS FOR COMMERCIAL, NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO PROHIBIT IT. BUT IF FRESH OUT OR SAVANNAH WANTS TO JUMP IN AND SAY ANYTHING ELSE, THE ONLY THING IS IS I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S PAYING AND IT'S EXTENDED STAY. WHAT'S TO PRECLUDE THEM FROM PAYING FOR 365 DAYS? NOTHING. THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT THAT. RIGHT? YEAH. FOR THEM TO LIVE THERE AND PAY THAT WEEKLY RATE, THEY COULD DO THAT. RIGHT. UM, BUT AS JUNE NOTED, THE ZONING IS WHAT'S PREVENTING IT TO BE RENTED ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND WHAT IS IT ZONED? AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS PD WITH THE, UH, BASE ZONING OF GENERAL RETAIL. MM-HMM . AND ANOTHER THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE REALLY UP TO THE HOTEL DEVELOPERS [00:35:01] TO MAINTAIN THE HIGH QUALITY SO THAT THE RENT WILL NOT GO DOWN SO MUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE COMPARABLE TO LIVING IN A BROKEN DOWN APARTMENT. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT THAT LEADS TO IS THAT IT'S CHEAPER TO RENT MM-HMM . FROM THESE EXTENDED HOTEL, UH, HOTELS VERSUS THE APARTMENT. HOWEVER, THIS IS A BRAND NEW HOTEL. THEY ARE UPPER MISS SCALE, THEY'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF AMENITIES. THEIR DAILY RATE WILL BE PROBABLY NOT THAT AFFORDABLE COMPARED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND SO ALSO WITH THE POOL SIZE, WERE THEY, WERE BOTH HOTELS ASKING FOR REDUCTION IN INSIDE THE POOL? YES. SO BECAUSE THE HOTELS, THOSE HOTELS HAVE DIFFERENT SIZE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. SO HERE'S THE VARIANCE MORE IN DETAIL. LET ME GO TO THAT PAGE. SO, UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR POOL SURFACE IS 3000. THE SPRING, UH, SORRY, SPRING HILL SUITE, THE UPPER SCALE, THEY'RE PROVIDING A THOUSAND AND HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. THE TOWN PLACE, THEY'RE PROVIDING 350, BUT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THESE ARE ALL THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT NONE OF THE HOTELS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY HAS 3000 DO, UH, SQUARE FEET, WATER SURFACE. THAT'S QUITE LARGE. OKAY. BUT ALSO I'M, I'M, YOU'RE SHOWING US THE COMPENSATORY MEASURES MM-HMM . BUT IT'S ALSO PART OF WHAT THEY'RE AMENITIES ARE, ARE, ARE LESS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED. SO THEY'RE REQUIRED FOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING WHAT'S REQUIRED AND ON TOP OF THAT ADDITIONAL SPACES MM-HMM . DIDN'T YOU SAY THOUGH THAT THE MEETING SPACE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND IT'S NOT THERE? SO THAT'S FOR THE UPSCALE HOTEL FOR SPRING HILL SUITE. OKAY. THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT, BUT AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THEY'RE PROVIDING OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS. OKAY. THAT CAN BE USED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER EVENTS OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM THAT THEY WANNA HOLD. OKAY. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD USE THAT FOR MEETING SPACE. NO. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. RIGHT. OKAY. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE. OKAY. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE PASSED ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES. HI. HELLO. ONE QUICK QUESTION. UM, BECAUSE I SPEND SO MUCH OF MY LIFE IN HOTELS, . YES. UM, I'M CURIOUS, I KNOW SPRING HILL SUITES TO BE OPERATED BY MARRIOTT. YES. AND SO FOUNDRY HOTELS, IS THAT A DIVISION OF MARRIOTT? SO TOWN PLACE SUITE IS ALSO, UH, THE MARRIOTT BRAND. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT? MM-HMM. SO THEY WILL OPERATE AS A FRANCHISEE UNDER MARRIOTT CORPORATION. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE STANDARDS TO RIGHT. WHAT COMMISSIONER MADDEN WAS ASKING. I'LL LEAVE, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE APPLICANT. ANSWER. DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY PLAN TO BE HERE. MM-HMM. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. OF COURSE. AND THE FOUNDRY IS THE OVERALL PROJECT NAME FOR THAT AREA. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I, I JUST HAD A CONCERN. MM-HMM . IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UH, THAT IS A, A GOOD LOCATION TO BE ACROSS FROM THE NEW UPCOMING BUSINESSES. MM-HMM . WHY WOULDN'T THEY WANT TO JUST BUILD ONE HOTEL AND BE IN COMPLIANCE? I MEAN, BECAUSE I, I GET IT HAVING THE UPSCALE AND LOWER SCALE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME FAMILIES THAT WANT TO COME HERE FOR VACATION. RIGHT. AND THEY MAY NEED A KITCHEN, YOU KNOW, TO UH, MAKE SURE THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO ALL THE AMENITIES AND, AND DO WHATEVER AND STILL, UH, LIVE THAT'S CLOSE, YOU KNOW? SO I GET THAT. BUT I, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY JUST DIDN'T CHOOSE ONE ON THAT ONE. LIKE I SAID, DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THAT? WELL, ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN THE REASONING BEHIND WHY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE REQUEST. ONE OF THE, UM, REASONING THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO STAFF WAS THAT THE, THEY DIDN'T WANNA COMPETE AGAINST THE HILTON GARDEN INN AND OTHER PLACES THAT ARE LARGER BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME VENUES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET FOR ATTRACTING CONVENTIONS AND OTHER BIG EVENTS. THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR REASONING. BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, UM, THE PD SHOWED CONCEPT FOR TWO HOTELS AND THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH AN SUP. WE DID NOT SAY THE HOTELS ARE ALL ABOUT RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO BE PROVIDE AN SUP. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HERE FOR. AND AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE APPLICANT TO CONVINCE BOTH PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL WHY THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO DRAW AS MUCH CONVENTION, MANY CONVENTIONS TO THE AREA AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT. AND THE MORE HOTELS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A BIG EVENT LIKE THE, WITH THE SOCCER AND THE, WHAT IS THAT CRICKET PICKLEBALL AND ALL THAT STARTS COMING, WE MAY LOSE OUT ON SOMETHING AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO STILL CONSIDER, I THINK. RIGHT. AND I LIKE THAT WE'RE SO CLOSE. IF, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT BY COMBINING TWO APPLICATIONS, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'LL HAVE TO BE A BRAND NEW APPLICATION. 'CAUSE IT'LL BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT REVIEW THAN WHAT THIS PRESENTED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS YOU? THAT'S A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME. I, MAN. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THAT. . THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT. UH, NOTHING ELSE BEING SAID. WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THIS BRIEFING AT SIX 13 AND RECONVENE AT 6:30 PM THANK YOU. MY KNEES GET IN TROUBLE WITH HIM. Y'ALL READY? I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA. WELCOME [Call to Order] TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE MEETING [00:40:01] OF FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:31 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FALLS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION. HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA. INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD. THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST ITEM BEING CALLED. I WILL NOW CON CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE CHERYL SMITH. HERE. CARL RAMIREZ. MICHELLE MADDEN. HERE. TY CHAPMAN. HERE. FRANK GONZALEZ. HERE. JULIA PEREZ. HERE. ANNA COCA. HERE. JOHN FCO. HERE. CHRISTOPHER OLEY. HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR CARL RAMIREZ. AND NOW, UH, COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION. AND AFTER THAT, I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS AND MERCY THAT WE RECEIVE EVERY DAY. WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT. AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, HELP US ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY. FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE, LORD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT MAY AFFECT THE RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND BUSINESSES OF GRAND PRAIRIE. CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL WE DO TODAY AND ALL WE ACCOMPLISH IS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU. ALL OF THIS WE ASK IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. OUR ANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH ABILITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, TEXAS FLAG MY PLEDGE. ALLEGIANCE BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. THESE CHAIRS ARE SO BIG IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT. ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING. SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT. IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM. AT THIS TIME, CI CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO. MADAM CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT MATTER [PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA] FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX. COMMISSIONER PEREZ, MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ. IT IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FKO. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMISSIONER [7. ZON-24-01-0001 - Zoning Change/Concept Plan - Z210101/CP210101 Polo SFA Amendment (City Council District 6). PD Amendment (PD-410) to allow 1,300 sq. ft. Single Family Attached units on 2.909 acres. Tract 11.3, Thomas J. Tone Survey, Abstract No. 1460, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-410 and approximated addresses of 4529-4554 Harmony Ct] PEREZ. MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ZERO N DASH 24 DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 0 1. THE ZONING CHANGE CONCEPT PLAN FOR POLO SFA AMENDMENT TO THE NEXT P AND C MEETING OF FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024. 2024. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE ITEM SEVEN ZERO N 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FCO. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES [00:45:01] UNANIMOUSLY. [8. STP-23-12-0028 - Site Plan - Pros Westcliff Mult-Family (City Council District 2). Site Plan for a multi-family development with 300 dwelling units on 14.16 acres. Lots 1-4, Vickery Place Addition, a portion of Tract 4, J.W.E. Wallace Survey, Abstract No. 1517, and a portion of Tract 12, Benjamin F. Smith Survey, Abstract No. 1337, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned PD-449, within the IH-20 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 901-913 E Fish Creek Road, 3971 Westcliff Rd and 1199 E IH-20 ] NEXT CASE PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SDP 23 12 0 0 2 8. A SITE PLAN FOR CROSS WESTCLIFF MULTIFAMILY. AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS AREA WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE AS PD 18. THE APPLICANT HAS GONE THROUGH ADOPTION OF A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO ALLOW FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. NOW THE APPLICANT HAS COME THROUGH, UH, WITH A SITE PLAN REQUEST TO, TO, UH, DISPLAY THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVED AND ALSO WITH THE UDC AND APPENDIX W REQUIREMENT. SO THIS REQUEST IS FOR A SITE PLAN FOR A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH 300 UNITS CONSISTING OF ONE TO TWO BEDROOMS. IT'LL BE LOCATED ON A 14 POINT 16 ACRES. SO THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL AREA. UM, THERE'S THE I 20 AND THERE'S EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY. ACTUALLY, THE WHAT IS SHOWN VACANT HERE IS ALSO A MULTI-FAMILY THAT CURRENTLY AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE. SO THIS IS A CONCEPT ELEVATION THAT WAS APPROVED DURING THE ZONING REQUEST. THIS IS SHOWN AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE PRO FINAL PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS I 22. THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS DRAWING, THIS IS THE FISH CREEK ABIDING, THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE PROVIDING 10 BUILDINGS WHERE THESE 300 UNITS WILL BE PLACED AND THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT AND PARKING REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE PROVIDING THE POOL WITH THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE DOG PARK. HERE'S THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING. UM, DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PROVIDED SOME ENHANCEMENT AROUND THE ENTRANCES WHERE IT'S MOST VISIBLE FROM THE I 20. AS THE PEOPLE TRAVEL IN THIS DIRECTION, THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE ALL THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS SCREENING REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS THE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENT. HERE'S THE BILLING ELEVATION, WHICH IS IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED DURING THE CONCEPT ELEVATION, UH, CONCEPT PLAN PHASE. AND THE THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE APPENDIX W REQUIREMENT AS SHOWN THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND DRC STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? COCA? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, REMIND ME WHICH SCHOOL? UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL CLOSEST TO THE, I FORGOT TO, I FORGOT TO LOOK THAT UP. . I'M SORRY. NO WORRIES. YEAH, I REMEMBER LOOKING THAT UP DURING THE ZONING CHANGE PHASE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STRICTLY WEST OF BELTLINE AREA AND NORTH OF I 20. IT IS GRAND PRAIRIE, ISD. SO, UM, LET SEE IF I CAN GOOGLE, UM, THE ADDRESS, BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, UM, WAS THERE ANY REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SINCE PART OF THIS IS COMMUNITY? SO THE SITE PLAN WAS SENT OUT, BUT IF YOU RECALL THE, DURING THE, UH, CON PLAN ADOPTION PHASE, WE DID SEND OUT THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATION. AT THAT TIME, UM, I THINK WE HAD SOME INQUIRIES AND WHATEVER THE OPPOSITION AT THAT TIME WAS ADDRESSED DURING THE CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NEW REQUESTS FOR THE SITE PLAN. AGAIN, THIS IS A SITE PLAN REQUEST, MEANING THE PON LETTERS ARE NOT SENT OUT. HAVE, HOWEVER, APPLICANT DID POST FIVE SIGNS ALONG, UH, THE ENTIRE, UH, PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING BY CAN SEE. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED THIS IS, UH, THREE STORIES HERE. YES. SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT GONNA BE, THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT, UH, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO LOOK INTO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL. THAT IS CORRECT. SO I THINK ONE OF THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE REVIEWED DURING THE CONCEPT PLAN. IF YOU RECALL, I BELIEVE WE GAVE YOU 230 FEET DISTANCE FROM THE NEARBY RESIDENCE. OKAY. AND ALSO THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, KIND OF WORKED WITH STAFF TO ORIENT THE BUILDING IN SUCH WAY THAT THEIR PATIOS WILL NOT BE FACED ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA EDGE TO THE NORTH. IT WILL BE JUST LOOKING INTO THE FISH, UM, THE FISH CREEK, UM, I'M SORRY, WEST CLIFF ROAD, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE OR ANY RESIDENCES NEARBY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, JUNE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS, UM, YEAH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN'S AREA. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GET READY TO VOTE? ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON STP DASH 23 DASH 12 DASH 0 2 8 SITE PLAN. PROS, WESTCLIFF MULTIFAMILY AND APPROVE PER DRC RECOMMENDATION. I SECOND THERE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, [9. STP-24-01-0001 - Site Plan - Crunch Fitness at Epic West (City Council District 2). Site Plan for a health club on 3.499 acres. Lot 1R-2B, Block C, Epic West Towne Crossing Phase 1 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-364, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District and addressed as 3116 S Hwy 161 ] COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE STP 2 4 1 0 0 0 1. THIS IS A SITE PLAN REQUEST FOR A GYM CRUNCH FITNESS LOCATED AT 3 1 1 6 [00:50:01] SOUTH HIGHWAY 1 61. THE SUFFOLK PROPERTY IS ZONED PD 360 4, WHICH HAS A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL AND IT'S ON A 3.499 ACRE LOT. SO THE 35,000 SQUARE FOOT GYM, UM, IT IS MEETING ALL OF OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS. AND BECAUSE IT IS WITHIN OUR QUARTER OVERLAY, IT ALSO HAS TO MEET OUR APPENDIX F STANDARD. SO IT'S MEETING MOST OF THEM. THEY ARE REQUIRING A FEW VARIANCES. UM, ONE OF WHICH IS PARKING, WHICH AGAIN, I'LL GO OVER IN A LATER SLIDE. SO THEY ARE MEETING OR EXCEEDING ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN APPENDIX F AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS. AND THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR TWO RELATED TO THE GLAZING, WHICH AGAIN, I'LL REVIEW IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THEY'RE MEETING THE A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY, UM, MATERIAL REQUIREMENT AS LONG AS THEY'RE PROVIDING ARTICULATION ELEMENTS, MATERIAL MIX, COLOR CONTRAST WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL. SO IN APPENDIX F, AGAIN, THEY DO OR THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 12 DIFFERENT APPENDIX F MENU ITEM POINTS, WHICH THEY ARE PROVIDING. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE SELECTED. SO AGAIN, THE THREE VARIANCES ARE RELATED TO, THE FIRST ONE IS THE REQUIRED PARKING. BECAUSE PARKING MINIMUMS ACT AS MAXIMUMS IN OUR QUARTER OVERLAY, THAT DOES REQUIRE A VARIANCE TO EXCEED. SO THE PARKING MAXIMUM IS TWO 30. THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR 233, WHICH AGAIN, THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR, UM, STAFF CONDITION FOR THE COMPENSATORY MEASURES. UM, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS FOR GLAZING. SO ALL FOUR FACADES, 50% OF THEM HAVE TO HAVE GLAZING, UM, FOR THE LENGTH OF ALL FOUR SIDES. THEY'RE REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF THAT TO 32.5%. UM, THE THIRD VARIANCE IS FOR GLAZING FOR THE PRIMARY FACADE, WHICH IS, UH, FACES ESPLANADE. SO IT'S REQUEST, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE 30% OF THE AREA HAS TO BE GLAZING. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT TO 12%. AND AGAIN, THAT'S RELATED TO THE USE. THEY'RE WORRIED THAT PATRONS WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT AMOUNT OF WINDOWS. SO DRC DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION. THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE EITHER PER PERMEABLE PAVING MATERIALS OR COMPACT PARKING SPACES AS COMPENSATORY MEASURES FOR 50% OF THE EXCESS PARKING, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY APPENDIX F. SO TWO OF THOSE SPOTS WOULD HAVE TO BE EITHER PERMEABLE PAVING OR A COMPACT CAR. THAT PER CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMERS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN, CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THE, UM, ELEVATIONS, PLEASE? YES. OKAY. I CAN'T GET THEM TO PULL UP FOR MY, ON MY IPAD, SO I TAKE A LOOK AGAIN. SO THE EASTERN ELEVATION IS, WHAT IS THE PRIMARY ONE THAT'S FACING? ESPLANADE? MM-HMM . OKAY. AND WHERE CAN YOU SHOW ME AGAIN ON THE SITE PLAN WHERE THAT IS? IN THAT EPIC WEST AREA? OH, HERE'S THE, OH, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO LOOK AT. UH, SO WHAT'S IMMEDIATELY BEHIND IT? I'M TRYING TO PLACE IT, I THINK. IS THAT THE HOTEL? IT'S THE RESIDENCE, YEAH. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW AND IN FRONT THAT YOU MAIN HAVE BEEN TO THE NORTH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM WILL WINKLEMAN. UH, WHO IS THE, UH, APPLICANT IN THE CASE? MR. WINKLEMAN, HOW ARE YOU GUYS? GOOD TO SEE YOU. CAN YOU NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? UH, WILL WINKLEMAN 8 8 1 4 SANDS SHIRE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 1. UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, TALK ABOUT IT, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL NEEDS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING. FIRST OF ALL. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE PRICE POINT FOR THIS FACILITY? I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER, BUT I, I DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SKYLER LONG. I'M THE APPLICANT, UH, REPRESENTING CR FITNESS. WHO IS THE CRUNCH FITNESS FRANCHISEE WHO IS DEVELOPING THIS LOCATION. UM, EXCELLENT QUESTION. UM, CRUNCH FITNESS IS, UH, IN THE CATEGORY OF LOW PRICE, BUT HIGH VALUE. SO YOU CAN BE A MEMBER FOR AROUND $10 A MONTH, AND THEN THERE'S GRADUATING PLANS UP TO 20, $30 A MONTH DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES YOU WANT TO USE. HOW MANY OTHER FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE IN THE AREA, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY? UH, SO I BELIEVE THERE'S FOUR OR FOUR, MAYBE FIVE ALREADY IN THE DALLAS METROPLEX AREA, UM, THAT ARE PART OF THIS BRAND AND PART OF THIS GROUP. UM, OVERALL, THIS GROUP HAS ABOUT 60 LOCATIONS, UH, IN FLORIDA, ATLANTA, AND DALLAS. OKAY. COMMERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I DO. UM, SO IS THE, ARE THE EXTERIORS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE OTHER LOCATIONS LOOK LIKE AS WELL WITH THE LESSER, UM, WINDOWS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO THE, THE GLAZING, UH, IS ALWAYS TRICKY AND WE SEE THAT REQUIREMENT A LOT. MM-HMM . UH, I WILL SAY THERE'S SOME AREAS WHERE WE CAN DO LIKE A TWO STORY BUILDING AND STILL GET SOME OF THAT GLAZING ON THE FIRST FLOOR. UH, THERE'S SOME HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS HERE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER TENANTS, SO WHO'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT HERE. UM, BUT THE, THE ISSUE WITH THE GLAZING IS YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE LOCKER ROOMS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE HOT YOGA STUDIOS, YOU HAVE CYCLING, YOU HAVE GROUP FITNESS. UM, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE A WEIGHT ROOM WITH ALL THE DUMBBELLS, THE MIRRORS, THAT KIND OF STUFF MM-HMM . UM, PEOPLE ARE JUST GENERALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HAVING A LOT OF WINDOWS LOOKING IN ON THEM WHILE THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING OUT. SO MM-HMM . UH, IT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, UH, WITH P AND Z, BUT WE TRY TO PROVIDE IT WHERE WE CAN. UM, I DUNNO IF I CAN FLIP BACK, BUT THE ELEVATIONS, YOU NOTICE WE DO HAVE GLAZING UP HIGH. MM-HMM . WE LOVE TO HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT COMING IN. RIGHT. WE JUST DON'T WANT IT AT STREET STORE, STREET LEVEL WHERE EVERYBODY'S GLARING IN AT YOU. RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A PECULIAR LOCATION MM-HMM. [00:55:01] IN MY MIND, IN FRONT OF A HOTEL ACROSS FROM RESTAURANTS. MM-HMM . IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR TYPICAL CHOICE OF LOCATIONS, OR? NO, I MEAN, POPULATION IS WHAT DRIVES IT. OKAY. UM, WE LOVE TO BE IN AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF DAILY USE, LIKE RESTAURANTS. OKAY. UH, WE LIKE GROCERY USES, BUT WE ALSO LIKE REGIONAL USE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN ON THE WEEKENDS AS WELL TOO. UH, OUR BUSIEST TIME IS MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY NIGHT. RIGHT. SO WHEN THE MAIN EVENT NEXT DOOR IS NOT HOPPING, WE'RE DRIVING TRIPS TO THE AREA MM-HMM . UM, SO WE CAN REALLY KIND OF GO ANYWHERE AS LONG AS THE POPULATION'S THERE WITHIN A RADIUS, THEY'LL WANT TO COME TO US. OKAY. OKAY. TO BE NOSY, CAN YOU TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT PROXIMITY ARE THE CLOSEST OTHER, UH, LOCATIONS YOU HAVE? AH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO I WORK MAINLY ON THE GROUND UP LOCATIONS. I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, ALLEN AND PLANO AS WELL RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE OTHER ONES ARE EXACTLY. UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER LOCATIONS FOR GROUND UP. BUT THIS, THIS WILL BE THE KIND OF MARQUE GROUND UP LOCATION IN, IN THE AREA. I WAS JUST BEING NOSY TO SEE IF ARLINGTON OR MANSFIELD OR THE REST OF THE GANG WERE, WERE INCLUDED ALREADY BEFORE US. YES. SO THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES THAT YOU, UH, CAME TO GRAND PRAIRIE. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. IT WAS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN BRINGING THE CRUNCH FITNESS TO, TO GRAND PRAIRIE. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS MORE AROUND, THERE'S LIKE FIVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, FITNESS CENTERS AROUND WITHIN A FIVE TO SEVEN MILE RADIUS. MM-HMM . SO WHY, YOU KNOW, HERE? AND OBVIOUSLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU DECIDED TO COME HERE. SURE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME AS A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR MESSAGE THERE TO? SO, AGAIN, IT ALL COMES BACK TO KIND OF DEMOGRAPHICS AND, UH, I'M, I'M NOT, UH, SUPER WELL VERSED ON THE, ON THAT SIDE OF THINGS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A POPULATION, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE MEMBERS OF A GYM. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PRICE POINT, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANNA BE PART OF A PRICE POINT GYM LIKE THIS. SO IF WE FIT WITHIN THE, UH, THOSE KIND OF DEMOGRAPHICS, WE'RE GONNA CHECK THIS BOX. I WILL SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE ALSO VERY CONFIDENT IN THE BRAND AND KNOW THAT WE DO WELL AGAINST OTHER BRANDS AS WELL TOO. SO, UH, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE AMENITIES WE OFFER THAT SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UH, LOW PRICE, LOWER VALUE, UH, FACILITIES DON'T OFFER, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN DRAW THE MEMBERS INTO OUR FACILITY. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU DID A MARKETING SURVEY? UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S, AND THAT, THAT BROUGHT YOU TO US. THERE'S A VERY INTENSE, UH, VETTING, UH, PROCESS FOR ALL THESE SITES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. EXCELLENT. UH, COMMISSIONER. HI, SKYLER CHAPMAN. UH, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION. MM-HMM . AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE SAME AFFINITY THAT MY COLLEAGUE HAS. THE EPIC IS CLOSE BY. SO I WANTED TO KNOW THE PRICE POINTS AND YOUR HOURS, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE EXPANSION, THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING IN THE EPIC. SO I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT, WHAT ALL YOU HAVE AS FAR AS, UH, DAILY FITNESS USE IN THE EPIC FACILITY. UM, I THINK TYPICALLY WE'RE FIVE TO 10, FIVE TO 11. WE'RE NOT A 24 HOUR FACILITY. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A POOL. WE DO NOT HAVE A BASKETBALL GYM. SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAINLY MORE FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, THE WEIGHT TRAINING. UH, THERE IS A, A HIT ZONE, THE HIGH INTENSITY TRAINING, THINK CROSSFIT, BUT NOT QUITE. UM, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE POWER LIFTING PLATFORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, AGAIN, HOT YOGA CYCLING, UH, GROUP FITNESS. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY TRY TO DO AS MANY CLASSES AS THEY CAN TO OFFER AS MANY OPTIONS AS THEY CAN. MM-HMM . I THINK THAT MAY BE IT AS FAR AS QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID YOU STATE YOUR, YOU DID STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND ADDRESS FOR ME? OH, SORRY. UH, SKYLER LONG AND, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 64 25 TALKING TREE COURT AND C*****G, GEORGIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS, UM, MADDEN, COMMISSIONER MADDEN AREA AGAIN. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? UH, NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? UH, JUST REMIND THE, THE COMMISSION THAT WHAT YOU'RE REVIEWING HERE IS JUST THE SIDE PLAN, SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE REVIEWING THE INGRESS EGRESS AND WHETHER YOU LIKE THE LAYOUT OF THE PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY MARKETING FACTORS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? DO YOU WANNA YOU TALK ABOUT IT FIRST? I WILL. YOU CAN. I MEAN, IT'S YOUR AREA, RIGHT? I, I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT MATT WAS JUST SAYING, I'M, NOW I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED. UM, SO, OKAY. THIS IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS WITHIN THE PROPERTY. OKAY. DO YOU, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL? I'M OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT, UM, PRICE POINT THERE, YOU KNOW, THE EPIC IS PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT IN THE, UM, THE SUMMIT. SO THAT GIVES OTHER, UH, FOLKS IN THE AREA ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO I'M OKAY WITH IT. COMMISSIONER FEDCO, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR RESERVATION TO IT? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. OH, I WAS JUST ASKING, UM, BASED ON WHAT MS. CHAPMAN SAID ABOUT THE EPIC BEING NEARBY, UM, LESSER, [01:00:01] UM, BENEFITS AND THEN PLANTED SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. SO THAT TO ME WAS A LITTLE FUNNY THAT I JUST WANNA KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS. SO THAT'S ALL. COMMISSIONER, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT? AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK AND SAY THERE'S THE PLANET FITNESS, THERE'S THE EPIC, THE SUMMIT, THE FITNESS CONNECTION, AND THE LA FITNESS MM-HMM . WITHIN FIVE MILE RADI. AND AGAIN, IT'S CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE IT WILL BE GOOD. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OVERALL A GOOD BUSINESS STRATEGY. I THINK STRATEGY OVERALL, THERE ALL, THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE FOR EVERYBODY. YEAH. WHATEVER FITS YOU. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BRING BUSINESSES TO THE AREA AS WELL. RIGHT. AND SO IF THEY, IF, IF THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE VARIANCES, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. MM-HMM . SURE. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. COMMISSIONER MADDEN. OKAY. WELL, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING ON SSTP TWO FOUR DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 1 SITE PLAN FOR CRUNCH FITNESS AT EPIC WEST AND APPROVE BASED, UM, AND INCLUDE THE UM, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NINE BY COMMISSIONER MATT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. WELL, NOT UNANIMOUSLY, BUT I DID PASS, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. ALL THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. . YEAH, ONE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN TO ONE. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THAT'S OKAY. NO, NO, THAT'S ALRIGHT. THE ITEM [10. STP-23-05-0009 - Site Plan - 360 Commerce - Phase 3 (City Council District 2). Site Plan for two industrial buildings on 5.432 acres. Lots 1R-3R, and Site 1, Block B, Forum Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas zoned Light Industrial (LI) and an approximate address of 2703 Arkansas Lane ] NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA IS ANOTHER SITE PLAN CONSIDERATION, STP 2 3 0 5 0 0 0 9. THIS IS A, UM, FLEX OFFICE WAREHOUSE SPACE ON THE ARKANSAS LANE. SO THE, UH, LOCATION SHOWS THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY AT THE CITY'S, UM, BOUNDARY TO THE NORTH OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CITY OF ARLINGTON. AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY SURROUNDED ON THE EAST AND SOUTH BY OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THEY'RE ABUTTING A MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST. SO THIS KIND OF COMMUNICATES WHAT KIND OF CHARACTERISTICS OF BUILDINGS ALREADY EXIST IN THAT AREA. SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS IN ARLINGTON ARE ALSO FLEXIBLE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE TYPE OF FACILITIES. SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN THAT THE BILL, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO BUILDINGS. THE BUILDING ONE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN SCALE, MORE FITTING FOR, UH, SMALLER BUSINESS OWNERS WHO WANTS TO HAVE THEIR OFFICE WAREHOUSE, UM, SPACES FOR THEIR BUSINESSES. AND THIS ALLOWS FOR OTHER TENANTS THAN MAY NEED THE CLEAR, TALLER, CLEAR CEILING. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARD AND PARKING STANDARD. JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING A WING WALL SO THAT THEY CAN BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE TRUCK DOCKS FROM ANYBODY WHO'S USING THE ARROW DRIVE. THEY ARE PROVIDING THE LANDSCAPE AS REQUIRED. JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING TREES TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS. HERE'S SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. THIS WILL BE A CONCRETE TILT UP, A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY WALL WITH SOME ACCENT BY, UH, PAINTS AND, UH, METAL PANELS THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE MAXIMUM REQUIREMENT. AND OTHER, UM, BRICK AND OTHER EXIT MATERIALS IS THE SECONDARY ACCENTS. HERE'S THE BUILDING TWO, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT TALLER BUILDING. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT GENERALLY THAT THE SAME DESIGN CONCEPT AND THE COLOR SCHEME CARRIES OVER TO THE, THESE BUILDINGS AS WELL. SIR, HERE'S THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE BUILDING ONE AND FOR THE BUILDING TWO, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SO ARE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS. WILL IT BE USED BY THE BUILDER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE RENTED OUT? NO, I BELIEVE THE BUILDER ACTUALLY OWNS SOME OF THE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA. I THINK HE JUST DOES THE BUSINESS OF JUST RENTING THE, LEASING THE SPACES TO DIFFERENT USERS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE IS INTENDING ON USING THE SPACE FOR HIMSELF. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AGAIN OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED? IS IT OF COURSE, CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL? THAT'S RESIDENTIAL ON ONE SIDE. SO ALL THIS IS A CHURCH THAT'S EXISTING, AND THESE ARE KIND OF A ONE STORY METAL BUILDING LOOKING WAREHOUSES. UM, SO THIS IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT WHAT THE STAFF AND APPLICANT WORKED TOGETHER ON WAS TO PROVIDE THE 50 FOOT SIDE YARD FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING WHERE THE BUILDING STARTS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, THIS IS WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING LINE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE ROW PARKING, ONE DRIVE AISLE, AND ANOTHER THIRD ROW THAT'S USUALLY ABOUT 60 FEET. SO 50 AND 16 AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE, THEY'RE AT LEAST A HUNDRED TO 110 TO 120 FEET AWAY FROM WHERE THE BUILDING STARTS. SO STEP THOUGHT [01:05:01] THAT THAT WILL PROVIDE THEM WITH A SIX FOOT SCREENING WALL WITH THE ROWS OF TREES. THE BUILDING WON'T BE AS, UH, OVERWHELMING TO THESE RESIDENTS. SO, SO WHAT ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC? DID BRETT, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY WITH THE TRAFFIC? NO, IT, IT DIDN'T MEET OUR TIA REQUIREMENTS. UM, WE KNOW THAT ARROW DRIVE IS PRETTY LOW VOLUME. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC. WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY OF ARLINGTON ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING MEDIAN OPENING. UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE WIDENING THAT SUBSTANTIALLY AND DOING A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, TURN LANE ADDITIONS, UM, BOTH INTO THE SITE, UM, GOING EASTBOUND AS WELL AS, UH, WESTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE. SO WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT I'M JUST LOOKING AT, THERE'S SO MANY HOUSES THERE, YOU KNOW, SO ROOFTOPS. SO I WAS JUST PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING, IN THE AFTERNOON. YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE STREETS AREN'T THAT THAT WIDE RIGHT NOW. SO I'M JUST, WELL, LIKE I SAID, IT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A TIA, SO WE DIDN'T SEE THAT THAT AS BEING NECESSARY. UH, IT'S ADJACENT TO A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL VOLUMES THAT, THAT WE ARE EXPECTING FROM THIS SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT. WE SHALL SEE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM. THANK YOU, JIM. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT AND FERNANDEZ WHO INDICATED THAT SHE WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THIS IS ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONER MADARY. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, ARE Y'ALL FEEL PRETTY? MM-HMM . OKAY WITH THIS ONE? YES. OKAY, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON S STP DASH 23 DASH ZERO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 9 SITE PLAN FOR 360 COMMERCE PHASE THREE AND APPROVE, UM, WITH, WELL DRC DIDN'T MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT APPROVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 10 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. LOOKS LIKE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. [Items 11 & 12] THE NEXT CASES ARE ITEMS 11 AND 12. I'LL PRESENT THEM TOGETHER AS THEIR COMPANION ITEMS. UH, THERE IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONE CHANGE FOR 11 0 2, 11 0 6, AND 1110 DALWORTH AVENUE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NO, UH, WEST CORNER OF DALBERT STREET AND NORTHWEST 11TH STREET. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CURRENTLY DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS MIXED USE, WHICH IS REPRESENTED IN BLUE. AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO, UH, AMEND THE AREA TO LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS YELLOW. SO, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY IS GENERAL RETAIL, WHICH PROHIBITS SINGLE FAMILY USE. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY SIX, UH, SF SIX, AND THE INTENT IS TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON EACH LOT. THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES. WE DID SEND 43 LETTERS, UH, TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. OWNER INCIDENT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OBJECTIONS. UH, RECOMMENDATION STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST SINCE THE SINGLE FAMILY USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. HOWEVER, IT DOES MATCH THE PREDOMINANT AREA OR THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. THANK YOU. AB BILL, UH, THERE IS ALREADY A, A HOME IN ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? IN ONE OF THE LABS, CORRECT? I THINK, UH, AND IT'S, I GUESS IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN OR SOMETHING CHANGED? YEAH, IT WAS BUILT PRIOR, MOST LIKELY WHEN THE, BEFORE THE ZONING WAS PLACED. AND THE APPLICANT DOES INTEND TO DEMO THE HOME AND BUILD A NEW ONE. OKAY. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. THAT'S GOOD. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT 11 AND 12 WERE TOGETHER. YEAH. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. THIS IS, UM, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ'S, UM, AREA, AND HE'S, HE'S NOT HERE. I CLOSE ON MY CAMERA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. IT'S, UH, SO MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER, ITEMS NUMBER 11 AND 12, UH, FOR, UH, REPL THAT, THOSE THREE LOTS ON, UH, ON DALWORTH AND, UH, UH, APPROVE. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, UM, APPROVE ITEM, UH, 11 AND 12 BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY CO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. IS ANY, UM, [01:10:01] ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. UH, MOTION, UH, MOTION. UH, SEVEN FOUR. AND, UH, ALL NOT IN FAVOR ONE. SO THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ONE. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. YES. THIS IS ITEM [13. TAM-24-01-0001 - Text Amendment - Article 9: Signage for Murals (City Council District 5). An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, Amending Article 9: Sign Standards of the Unified Development Code by removing language limiting Murals to Central Area zoning district] 13, A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR ARTICLE NINE SIGN STANDARDS, SPECIFICALLY MURALS. SO, CURRENTLY, UH, MURALS ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN CENTRAL AREA ZONING, DISTRICT MURALS OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL AREA. ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. THE PRO PROPOSED AMENDMENT SHALL ALLOW MURALS IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS. UH, THE EXHIBIT DOWN HERE SHOWS WHAT'S BEING OMITTED TO ALLOW THAT USE. UH, AND I QUICKLY WANTED TO ADD AT THE STAFF BRIEFING, UH, WE, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT ALL SIGN CODES OR ALL TYPES OF SIGNS, WALL SIGNS, MONUMENT SIGNS. WE CANNOT REGULATE THE CONTENT OF ANY. IT JUST NOT, IT'S NOT ONLY EXTENDED TO MURALS, BUT ALL OTHER SIGNS AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION. AND CCDC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UH, AND DRC ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. WOW. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FOR DARCO? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THIS CHANGE? WHO'S, WHO'S LOBBYING FOR IT? GOOD QUESTION. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LOBBY LOBBYING WHEN YOU HAVE TWO APPLICANTS, ONE IN THE CA DISTRICT AND ONE OUTSIDE THE CA DISTRICT. AND YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PROCESSES FOR APPROVAL FOR THE SAME ITEM. IT PUTS STAFF IN A CERTAIN SITUATION. SO RATHER THAN HAVE THAT EXTRA LAYER FOR THAT PERSON OUTSIDE OF THE CA DISTRICT, WE FELT LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN'T, AS ABDUL SAID, WE CAN'T REGULATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN REGARDS TO THE MESSAGE. SO THAT'S ALL THIS WAS ABOUT. SO, ABDUL, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PRIOR SLIDE, PLEASE? SO, IF I UNDERSTAND THINGS CORRECTLY, MURALS ARE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. IT'S JUST OUTSIDE. THE CA REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND INSIDE THE CA IT DOES NOT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL, RIGHT? CORRECT. CA ALLOWS IT BY RIGHT? YES. ALLOWS IT BY, RIGHT. AND BY CHANGING THIS, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF UNMET MURAL DEMAND NEED THAT COULDN'T OTHERWISE BE DONE BY SIGNS AND BILLBOARDS. RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S, THERE'S A COMPELLING NEED THEN TO OPEN THIS, OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION. NO, THERE'S NOT. NO, NO. JUST LIKE I JUST NOTED, IT'S JUST MAKING IT FAIR FOR ANY APPLICANT AND STREAMLINING THE PROCESSES FOR STAFF. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE INTENDED FOR THIS AMENDMENT. THAT'S WHY I SAY, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT, FEEL FREE TO RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL. THAT SHOULDN'T BE A CHANGED. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CO UH, CONCERNS? COMMISSIONERS? MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS, MR. GON AGAIN, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, UH, BUT THIS IS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL. GOING BACK TO THAT STATEMENT, RIGHT. SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH, YOU KNOW, AN HOA, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL, SO IT'S PRIMARILY IN CENTRAL AREAS IN THE MARKETPLACE. AND, AND IS THAT LISTED THERE OR NO? YEAH. IF, IF APPROVED AS IS OR RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED AS IS, THEN IT'S ALLOWED IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND PNZ CAN STIPULATE THAT IT'S INTENT IS FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONINGS ONLY. SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT AS A CONDITION. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WAY. BUT AGAIN, I'LL LIVE WITH THE, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN HAD A, SOMETHING SHE'D LIKE TO SAY. UM, YEAH, SO , I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. I FEEL LIKE, UM, THERE ARE STILL AREAS OF THE REST OF THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE AN HOA THAT WOULD RESTRICT, UM, AND OLDER AREAS THAT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU SUDDENLY COULD REALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GET THEIR SIGN PERMIT AND THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE OR BUILDING OR WHATEVER WILL BE PAINTED WITH WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DECORATE WITH. SO I PERSONALLY, UM, WOULD PREFER TO DENY THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WRITTEN HERE THAT SAYS IT'S ONLY FOR BUSINESSES. I THINK THAT IF WE LIMIT IT TO CERTAIN ZONING TYPES, THEN WE STILL HAVE THAT, UM, POSSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE AND THEN, THEN THEY'RE IN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ABLE TO DO THAT NEXT DOOR TO A HOME. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST IT. COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I, I, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNLIMITED NOT KNOWING WHAT IT'S GONNA BE UNLESS, UH, PLANNING IS GONNA LOOK AT THAT AND, AND MAKE THAT JUDGMENT CALL ON THAT ONE. IF THEY, IF PLANNING CAN'T MAKE THE FINAL JUDGMENT CALL ON IT, I DON'T SEE US APPROVING THAT. AND IF I COULD, THIS TYPE OF SIGN [01:15:01] REQUIRES A PERMIT. A PERMIT FOR THIS TYPE OF SIGN WOULD NOT BE ISSUED IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD NOT BE ISSUED IN A MULTI-FAMILY ZONING. IT'S ONLY GONNA BE ISSUED IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT IT'S NOT WRITTEN THERE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THIS IS, OR IS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WRITTEN? IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE, UM, SIGNS THAT REQUIRE PERMITS. OKAY. THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE ON OBJECT SET. I WOULD DEFER TO SAVANNAH ON THIS ONE. IT IS DEFERRING TO YOU, SAVANNAH. SAVANNAH, SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE PERMIT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM, SO WE CAN ADD, THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED WE CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE UDC. UM, Y'ALL'S CONCERNS ABOUT THESE BEING APPROVED ELSEWHERE AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THEM, KEEP IN MIND THAT COULD STILL HAPPEN. THAT COULD STILL HAPPEN ABSOLUTELY. IN THE CA DISTRICT AND WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL ELSEWHERE. NOBODY, HE'S DEBATING THAT. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF THEN IT'S BY, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG STEP. YEAH. AND WE JUST DON'T AGREE WITH IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S, KEEP IT AS THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE SORT OF ON THIS ONE. OKAY. WHO'S GONNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UH, CHRIS, YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THESE. OKAY. ANYBODY WHO, WHO'S GONNA MAKE THE MOTION? YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM, UM, FOR ITEM 13, TAM DASH 24 DASH ZERO ONE DASH 0 0 0 1 TEXT AMENDMENT FOR ARTICLE NINE, SIGNAGE FOR MURALS. AND, UM, DENY, DENY THE PROPOSAL. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY ITEM 13 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN. AND I'LL SECOND IT. CHERYL SMITH, I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S 1 2 3 4 5 6 6. DENY. AND THEN ALL IN FAVOR? TWO. SO THE MOTION PASSES SIX TO TWO OF DENYING. NEXT CASE PLEASE. ITEM [14. SUP-23-10-0045 – Specific Use Permit/Site Plan – Foundry Hotels at 3511 S Hwy 161 (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for Two Hotels with approximately 230 rooms on 5.0 acres. A portion of Lot 6, Block 1, Slink Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-397, within the SH-161 & IH-20 Corridor Overlay Districts, with an approximate address of 3511 S Hwy 161] 14 IS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR FOUNDRY HOTELS. THIS IS THE SUP 23 10 0 0 4 5. SO AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE, UH, CULT MULTIFAMILY IS, UM, HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WHERE THE TLE, THE DAYCARE CENTER WAS APPROVED, THEY ARE GETTING, UH, BUILDING PERMIT FOR CB JENNY TOWN HOMES RIGHT IN THIS AREA. SO THE, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, THEY'RE PROPOSING A TOWN PLACE SUITE, WHICH WILL BE A EXTENDED STAY HOTEL, UPPER MIDSCALE CLASSIFICATION, FOUR STORY A HUNDRED FLOOR ROOMS TO THE SOUTH PORTION. THEY ARE PROPOSING A SPRING HILL SUITE, WHICH IS UPSCALE HOTEL FOUR STORY AND 125 ROOMS. THEY HAVE MET THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT AND HERE'S THE RENDERING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. SO THIS IS THE ONE TO THE SOUTH, THE SPRING HILL, THE UPSCALE HOTEL. THEY HAVE THIS LARGE CANOPY ENTRY FEATURE. THIS IS THE LOBBY AREA WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT OF WINDOWS AND GLAZING. AND ALL THIS AREA WILL BE THERE AMENDING THE AREA THAT INCLUDES THE OUTDOOR PATIO, OUTDOOR SITTING AREA, AND THE POOL. SO THIS IS THE TOWN PLACE SUITE, WHICH IS THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL TO THE NORTH. THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM, MORE CASUAL APPEAL. THEY DO HAVE A CANOPY. THEY HAVE THE AMENITY AREA MORE TOWARD, UH, WHERE IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THE RENDERING. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PROVIDING MOST OF THEIR AMENITY SPACES. SO HERE'S THE ELEVATIONS THEY HAVE PROVIDED, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE APPENDIX F STANDARD. SO UDC ACTUALLY HAS A MULTIPLE LAYERS OF HOTEL, UH, REQUIREMENT ONE IS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THE AMENITY AND THE DESIGN STANDARD. THE SECOND IS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT. SO HOW UDC UM, DETERMINES THEIR CONCENTRATION IS THEY ALLOW MAX NUMBER OF CERTAIN CLASS HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE. THAT IS BASED ON THE STR RATING, WHICH IS COMMONLY USED IN THE LODGING FACILITY INDUSTRY. UM, SO OUR REGULATION IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN FOUR MID-SCALE HOTELS. YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN FIVE UPSCALE HOTELS, AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO EXTENDED STATE HOTEL. SO THIS IS KIND OF A ANALYSIS OF WHAT HOTELS ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE. AS I MENTIONED THAT, UM, MORE RECENT HOTELS WERE CONSTRUCTED TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES THIS HILTON GARDEN AND HOMELESS SUITES AND THE RESIDENTS INN, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND THE CRUNCHY FITNESS WE JUST CONSIDER TODAY. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY ARE PROPOSING ONE [01:20:01] UPSCALE HOTEL, ONE MID UPSCALE HOTEL, AND ONE EXTENDED STATE HOTEL. SO AS THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS, THERE ARE ALREADY FIVE EXTENDED STAY HOTELS IN THE AREA THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE, UH, TWO HOTELS, THEY PUT THEM OVER THE CATEGORY OF ALLOWANCE IN THE UPSCALE, OR THEY'RE EXCEEDING THAT BY ONE. THERE ARE EXTENDED STAY, THE AREA ALREADY EXCEED THE MAXIMUM TWO, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING ONTO THAT AS ONE. THESE WOULD BE A VARIANCE REQUEST. SO ANOTHER LAYER OF HOTELS IS THAT ARTICLE FOUR HAS SOME AMENITY, TIER AMENITY. IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU'RE UPSCALE HOTEL, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT WITH THE STR RATING, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PROVE CERTAIN AMENITIES. SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED ALL THE TIER ONE AMENITIES AS SHOWN IN THE TABLE BELOW. AND AS A UPSCALE HOTEL, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE SIX TIER TWO AMENITIES, WHICH THEY HAVE PROVIDED BELOW. SOME OF THESE AMENITIES ARE LISTED HERE AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IN RESPONSE TO THIS REQUIREMENT. THEY'RE PROVIDING LOUNGE, MEETING ROOM, FITNESS CENTER, OUTDOOR POOL, OUTDOOR PATIO. AS I HAVE NOTED HERE, THE VARIANCE IS BASED ON THE TIER ONE, WHICH IS THE POOL SIZE. THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY, UH, REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 3000 SQUARE FEET WATER SURFACE. THEY ARE THE PROVIDING THAT. HOWEVER, AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THEY HAVE EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENT ON OTHER AMENITIES TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT. SO THE TOWN PLACE, UM, SUITES, THEY ARE A UPPER MID SCALE. THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL TIER ONE AMENITIES AND PROVIDE, UM, THREE OF THE TIER TWO AMENITIES. SO THESE ARE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. THEY'RE MEETING EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, POOL SIZE HERE, WHICH IS THE TIER ONE AMENITY. ITEM D UH, SORRY, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE TIER TWO. THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE MEETING ROOM SPACE, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE PROVIDING 2200 SQUARE FEET. SO AGAIN, TO SUMMARIZE THE VARIANCES, THE FIRST VARIANCE IS REGARDING THE SCREENING WALL. AS STEPH HAS MENTIONED BRIEFLY DURING, UM, BRIEFING THAT THEY HAVE A PROPOSED PUBLIC TRAIL PROPOSED RIGHT ALONG HERE THAT WILL BE USED BY MULTIPLE ENTITIES IN THAT GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVING A SCREENING WALL, A MIX SCREENING WALL, WOULD KIND OF DEFEAT THE PURPOSE HAVING THE TRAIL. AND ANOTHER THING THE, THE PD IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT WE REALLY WANT THE HOTEL PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE HOTEL TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO ANY COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THEM, BETWEEN THEM AND THE 1 61. SO THIS AREA CURRENTLY THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A ZONING FOR OTHER RESTAURANTS AND OTHER PATH SITES. SO THE DESIRE FOR THIS AREA IS TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THESE FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE, UH, PROPOSED TRAIL. SO STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST TO NOT PUT UP A SCREENING WALL. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE, UH, ENOUGH DISTANCE AWAY WITH THE BUFFER TO THE, THE PROPOSED, UM, TOWNHOUSES. THE OTHER TWO VARIANCES, AGAIN, ARE RELATED TO THE AMENITY LIST. AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO WATER SURFACE OF 3000 SQUARE FEET TO PROVIDE A 1100 SQUARE FEET FOR SPRING HILL SUITE AND 350 FOR THE TOWN PLACE SUITES. AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE SPRING SUITE BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, THE UPSCALE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEETING ROOM. THEY'RE PROVIDING 2230. SO THE OTHER TWO RECOMMEND, UH, VARIANCES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONCENTRATION. AS I HAVE MENTIONED, THE AREA ALREADY IS RIGHT AT THE BORDERLINE OF THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED CONCENTRATION. SO WHAT THEY'LL BE TRIGGERING IS THAT THEY WILL BE EXCEEDING THE NUMBER OF HOTELS ALLOWED IN TERMS OF UPSCALE CLASSIFICATION, AND THEY WILL BE EXCEEDING THE EXTENDED STATE CLASSIFICATION AREA. SO WITH THAT, THE PROPOSED HOTELS ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM THE EXISTING HOTELS BASED ON THE AERIAL MAP THAT YOU HAVE SEEN EARLIER. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NEWER HOTELS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE FUTURE ATTRACTIONS THAT WE RECENTLY APPROVED. BASS PRO SHOP, ANDRES, AND, UH, BIG SHOTS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THEY ARE PROPOSING THESE NEWS HOTELS. SO THIS COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE, UH, UH, TRAVELERS AND VISITORS WHO WANTS TO VISIT THIS DESTINATION. IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTRACTED TO THEM IN TERMS OF JUST THE TRAFFIC AND THE EASIER, UH, TRAVEL DISTANCE. SO AGAIN, STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE UDC CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, STAFF WANTS TO KNOW THAT PROPOSED POST SIZE AND THE MEETING ROOM SIZE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALLOWED ALREADY ALL ALLOWED TO BE BUILT. AND THE SPRING HOTEL, UH, SORRY, SPRINGHILL SUITE WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UPSCALE HOTELS WITHIN ONE MILE LOCATION. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME [01:25:01] IN AND SAID, I WANNA BUILD ECONOMY OR INDEPENDENT HOTEL, THEY WILL NOT EXCEED THE, UH, CONCENTRATION REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MANY OF THOSE KIND. HOWEVER, STAFF DOUBT THAT GIVING THE, UH, EX, UM, VARIANCE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO A UPSCALE ACTUALLY WAS PROBABLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY. AND FOR THIS LOCATION. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THE, UM, APPLICANT WANTED TO PREPARE A PRESENTATION IN CASE YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT IT. BUT, UM, ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? QUESTIONS FOR, UH, JUNE? UH, COMMISSIONER FREDO? OKAY. JUNE, CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR VARIANCES PLEASE? WHICH ONE? THE VARIANCES? YES. LISTED THEM. SO EXPLAIN THE, THE SCREENING WALL ONE. MM-HMM . SO THERE WILL OR WILL NOT BE A SCREENING WALL, WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. SO NORTHERN OR EAST? THE, THE, THAT'S THE WEST TURN, BUT I, I, SO THAT'S THE PLAN WEST, BUT THIS, YOU SEE THIS ARROW THAT'S THE NORTH, BUT I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY SCREENING WALLS THERE BECAUSE WE WANT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING AT THE HOTEL TO BE ABLE TO JUST WALK TO THE TRAIL AND USE THAT AS AMENITY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? THAT, THAT MAP? YES. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCREENING WALL HERE. THAT, THAT WILL, THAT'S REQUIRED. ISN'T THAT THERE ARE NO, NO SCREEN WALLS OR REQUIRED TO THE NORTH. IT'S JUST AGAINST HERE. SO IT'S ON THE WESTERN SIDE. WESTERN SIDE. YES, SIR. SO WHY DOES IT SAY NORTHERN IN THE VARIANCE? OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S MY MISTAKE THEN I'LL GET THAT CORRECTED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. HMM. GOOD. COMMISSIONER MADDEN. SO DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY IN THAT MM-HMM . ON THE WESTERN SIDE MM-HMM . BETWEEN ON PIERCE LANE THAT THERE ARE CONDOS OR SOME SOMETHING APPROVED. SO THE PIERCE LANE IS THE TOWNHOUSES. TOWNHOUSES, YEAH, TOWNHOUSES. BUT THE TOWNHOUSES AND THEY HAVE THE TRAIL AND THEN THEY HAVE THESE PRODUCTS STARTING. OKAY. SO THE TOWNHOUSES ARE FACING EAST. DO YOU RECALL? SO THEY'RE FACING PIERCE LANE. SO THERE'S ONE ROW ON, UH, WEST SIDE AND EAST SIDE. MM-HMM . SO ONE SIDE OF ONE GROUP OF TOWN HOMES WILL BACK UP TO THE PATH AND THE LACK OF A FENCE AND A HOTEL. AM I RIGHT? SO THEY WILL, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN RARE YARD WITH SCREENING. OKAY. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE TRAIL. OKAY. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE HOTEL. OKAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONERS. UH, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? UH, NO, GO AHEAD COCO. NO, GO AHEAD. YOU CAN GO. YOU CAN GO AHEAD LADIES FIRST. NO, GO AHEAD. GO. COME ON GONZALEZ. SOMEBODY GO. SOMEBODY GO QUESTION. I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU. I, ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE WEST, ON THE NORTHERN SIDE THEN. OKAY. SO ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF IT, THAT'S WHERE THE OIL AND GAS WELL IS WITH THE WATER PIT. CORRECT. IS THERE GONNA BE ANY SCREENING BETWEEN THAT HOTEL? SO SCREENING WALLS ARE TYPICALLY REQUIRED BETWEEN DIFFERENT ZONINGS. SO USUALLY IT'S REQUIRED BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, UM, MAYBE LIKE MULTI-FAMILY TO RESIDENTIAL, MULTI-FAMILY TO COMMERCIAL. SO THAT AREA DOES NOT REQUIRE SCREENING, AS I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THE AREA TO THE NORTH ALREADY HAS THEIR OWN SCREENING POSSIBLY, BUT WE'RE JUST PURELY TALKING ABOUT THAT REQUIREMENT OF SIX FOOT, BASICALLY SCREENING WALL BETWEEN NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES HERE. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONER, ANY MORE QUESTION? I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. MM-HMM . CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR LIST OF HOTEL TYPES? SURE. HAPPY TO. AND SO, OR HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE STILL IN THAT VICINITY? LIKE DIDN'T YOU HAVE A CHART OF HOW MANY THERE WERE FIVE UPSCALE AND NOT YES. OR WAS THAT, YES. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF HOW FAR THEY ARE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND WHAT KIND OF CLASS THAT THEY ARE. MM-HMM . SO THE COURTYARD STARTING FROM THE TOP COURTYARD IS AN UPSCALE HOTEL. HILTON GARDEN IS AN UPSCALE, IS AN UPSCALE, RESIDENCES IS AN UPSCALE, RIGHT? THOSE ARE ALL THE NEWER HOTELS. THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE UPPER MIDSCALE, THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE UPSCALE. THE STATE BRIDGE HERE, UM, IS A UPSCALE, THE HOME TWO SUITE HERE IS, UM, UPPER MIDSCALE AND OTHER KIND OF A MORE ECONOMY OR INDEPENDENT HOTELS, OR EVEN THE MID-SCALE HOTELS ARE THE HOTELS THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A WHILE. CAN YOU TELL ME THE OTHER CHART THOUGH? YOU HAD HOW MANY THERE ARE AND HOW MANY THERE CAN BE NOW? YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. MM-HMM . SO, OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MEET AND THEN EXCEED AND THEN EXTENDED STAY WILL EXCEED AS WELL. I KNOW YOU'VE SAID ALL THIS, I JUST WANNA LOOK AT IT AGAIN. SURE. 'CAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ACROSS THE WAY, AND I KNOW THAT THAT HASN'T COME BEFORE ANYONE AGAIN, UM, THERE WAS ALSO PROPOSALS OVER THERE BY BIG SHOTS FOR HOTEL. SO, CORRECT. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. RIGHT. BUT I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. NOW THIS IS UUDC. THIS IS WHAT THE UDC REQUIRES. THIS YES MA'AM. OKAY. [01:30:01] YES MA'AM. SO HOTELS, UM, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT WE JUST DON'T WANNA SEE A CONCENTRATION WITHIN VERY SMALL DISTANCE. THAT'S WHY THEY POLICE THIS. SO I THINK MOST OF THE NEWER HOTEL HAS BEEN TOWARD THE NORTH WHERE THERE IS A LACK OF EXISTING HOTELS. THIS ONE HAS HAPPENS TO JUST PICK A MIDDLE SPOT. MM-HMM . BUT THIS IS GONNA BE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. THIS WILL BE IN THE INSIDE. THIS WILL BE RIGHT, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THE ESTABLISHED EPIC WEST, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE SHE SHACK AND ALL THAT. MM-HMM. IT'S GONNA BE SOUTH OF THAT. IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT IT, THIS IS THE, WHERE THE 1 6 1 IS SHOWING. THIS IS THE AREA THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THAT. MICHAELS AND THE STORES AND THE SHOPS THAT WE SAW. MM-HMM . OKAY. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? JUNE, UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO QUICK QUESTION. MM-HMM . IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED MM-HMM . BUT NOT BUILT MM-HMM . IS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THIS COUNT OF NUMBERS OF HOTELS? BECAUSE, SO THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF THAT MIGHT HAVE COME AND GOTTEN APPROVED. SO, BUT NOT BUILT. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO YOU THE RESIDENCE IN, BACK IN 2018, THAT STAFF REPORT INCLUDED. THERE ARE HOTELS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THE AREA. THE REASON WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT HOTEL TO THE IKEA WAS BECAUSE BASED ON THE CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK, WE WEREN'T SURE IF THAT WAS REALLY COMING OR NOT. SO MM-HMM . AT THIS TIME, WE ARE ONLY FOCUSING ON WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S NEW HOTELS, AND THIS SITS THERE, IF THE NEW HOTEL COMES IN, WE'LL PROBABLY MENTION THERE HAS BEEN SUP PREFER THESE HOTELS, BUT SUP, YOU KNOW. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD BE THERE BY NOW. OKAY. UH, ANY MORE DIS UH, THANK YOU JUNE FOR THAT. YES. UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE THE, ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER CARDS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAD A, UM, YEAH, I THINK THERE WAS A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING. PRESENTATION OR ORDER THEY WANTED TO GO IN, BUT I CAN, WELL, WHOEVER'S GONNA BE MAKING A PRESENTATION OR GIVING US THE SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE ARE HERE, IF I CAN COME DOWN. YES. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. JUNE. UH, YES. MY NAME IS RODNEY ANDERSON. I LIVE AT 5 48 EDGE VIEW DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2, WHICH IS IN HOUSE, WHICH IS IN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT TWO. SO I, I LIVE IN THE, I LIVE IN THIS DISTRICT. UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WAS, UH, I GOT TO SEE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE STAFF BRIEFING, AND I WILL ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, UH, DURING THAT STAFF BRIEFING, BECAUSE THE LAST THING THAT OUR, THE APPLICANT WANTS IS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANOTHER BUDGET SUITES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHICH IS A VERY, WHICH IS A HIGH CRIME AREA. AS, AS MANY OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, UH, THE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IS BRINGING A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. UH, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS THE SUP, THIS IS NOT A ZONING CASE. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE OTHER PICTURE, IS THAT THOSE WERE ZONING CASES TO ADD ADDITIONAL HOTELS. THIS WAS ACTUALLY A PR, THE, THE UNDERLYING DEVELOPMENT, UH, WAS APPROVED FOR TWO HOTELS BACK IN 2019. UH, COVID HAS, YOU KNOW, HAD A, A, AN INTERESTING EFFECT ON EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S, I I WANNA MAKE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A ZONING CASE, AND I'VE WORKED WITH MY, MY CLIENT IS HERE AND AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER WHO HAS PUT IN A, WHO HAS PUT IN A CARD, UH, IF NECESSARY. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. THIS, THESE ARE THE PROJECT DETAILS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOT TALKED ABOUT WERE THE EV CHARGING STATIONS, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO SOME FOLKS. UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PUT THAT IN THERE. WE ALSO PUT IN THERE THEY ANTICIPATE THEIR AVERAGE DAILY, UH, RENTAL RATE TO BE $150 AND 39 CENTS FOR THE NIGHT. UH, THAT WILL PRICE OUT FOLKS WHO WANT TO STAY FOR, UH, AN EXTENDED, EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. UH, THE CONTENTS OF THE, THIS IS THE CONTENTS OF THE, THE PROJECT. THESE ARE THE, UH, THE MANAGING PARTNERS OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT. UH, THESE FOLKS, ALL THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MOMENT, THEY ALREADY HAVE, UH, AN EXISTING HOTEL. ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, THEY DO HAVE TO THE NORTH. THESE ARE SOME OF THE PAST PROJECTS THAT THEY DO. THE REASON THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THESE IS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT THESE FOLKS DO. THAT THESE, THESE ARE ONES THAT THEY'VE DONE IN FROM EVERYWHERE FROM SANTA FE TO ULI. OKAY? SAME HERE. THEY'VE GOT ONE DOWNTOWN. I WILL SAY ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS, WHEN THE, WHEN THE GAS EXPLOSION HAPPENED AT THE HOTEL DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH, I CALLED THEM AND SAID, PLEASE TELL ME THAT'S NOT YOU. AND THEY SAID, IT IS NOT YOU. SO THE, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REDEVELOPING DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH. THESE ARE OTHERS. UHAH IS THE DEVELOPER. AND YOU CAN TELL THESE ARE, THESE ARE ONES THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH. THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE KIND OF THE, THE, THEY'VE WORKED WITH MARRIOTT A LOT BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER WAS, UH, IS MARRIOTT AWARE? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COURTYARD RIGHT DOWN THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. UH, MARRIOTT IS VERY, VERY CONSISTENT IN THEIR ANALYSIS. THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY FRANCHISEE [01:35:01] TO PUT ANOTHER MARRIOTT PRODUCT THAT MIGHT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO FAIL. THEY, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. THESE ARE, AGAIN, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ONES THAT THEY, THAT THEY'VE BUILT. HERE'S THE MARRIOTT EFFECT. AGAIN, THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THE, THE, THE WORKPLACE FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES IS REALLY GOOD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING 40 TO 50 FULL-TIME JOBS HERE TO HERE TO GRAND PRAIRIE. THE HOME TWO SUITES, THIS IS A CASE STUDY, AND THE HOME TWO SUITES IS ONE THAT THEY OWN. THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF I 20. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OCCUPANCY TAX FOR THE CITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $315,000 FOR CITY OCCUPANCY TAX THAT COMES INTO THAT HOTEL. YOU DO NOT HAVE A CRIME ISSUE THERE. I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, ASK, YOU KNOW, OFFICER, IF THEY HAVE ANY, THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THAT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CRIME ISSUES THERE. YOU STILL HAVE SOME TRUCK IDLING STUFF FOR THE, FOR THE, THE, UH, UH, INDUSTRIAL SPACE NEXT DOOR. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THESE GUYS. THIS IS WHAT THEY, THEY AVERAGE 152 TO 156 PER NIGHT. AND IF YOU WANTED TO SEE COMPANIES THAT COME IN AND STAY AT THIS FACILITY, THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT UPON REQUEST. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT THEIR QUALITY ASSURANCE RATING FROM THE, THAT IS A HILTON PRODUCT IS OUTSTANDING. SO THE PURPOSE FOR ME SHOWING YOU ALL THOSE IS THAT YOU'RE DEALING, WE'RE WORKING WITH AS A CITY, AND I CONSIDER WE AS A CITY, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO BE A QUALITY DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE LONG TERM. OKAY? HERE ARE OUR BENEFITS AND I'LL, I'LL POINT IT OUT IN GREAT DETAIL IN THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1,000,002 COMING INTO EITHER THE CITY OR THE ISD FROM THESE TWO HOTELS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 45 TO 50 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT MARRIOTT HAVING ANOTHER MARRIOTT FACILITY THAT KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE THE COURTYARD AND THE RESIDENCE IN RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SMALL ON THE, ON THE DETAIL, BUT THE BIG NUMBER IS THE 1.2 MILLION. NOW, FOR THE, FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 123,000 FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SPRING HILL SUITES, 123,000 IN, UH, AD VALOREM TAXES. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HOT TAX OF ANOTHER, UH, 336,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 665,000, UH, COMING INTO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THAT HOTEL. AND THEN 5 53, AGAIN, THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME OF YOUR ISD STUFF, AND IT'S GOT IT BROKEN DOWN THERE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF $840,000 TO CITY THAT ALSO IS VER THAT DOES NOT USE A LOT OF CITY SERVICE. THAT'S THE ONE THING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME, UH, INDUSTRIAL, UH, LOCATIONS. YOU HAVE CITY SERVICES. THESE DON'T USE A LOT OF CITY SERVICES UNLESS SOMEBODY HAD, LIKE, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS, UH, A MEDICAL EVENT AT THESE LOCATIONS. I PUT THIS UP HERE. UH, I, I DON'T HAVE THE CIRCLE AROUND IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU SAW, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK JUNE. JUNE DID A MAGNIFICENT JOB WITH HER, WITH HER PRESENTATION. AND OUR, OUR, OUR TEAM HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH JUNE ON THIS. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE HER, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY GIVE HER PROPS. BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT SITE LOCATION, IT JUST BARELY TOUCHES THAT COURTYARD. AND YOU COULD ALMOST ARGUE IF YOU JUST MOVED IT ONE, IF YOU MOVED IT ONE TO THE BACK END, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULDN'T TOUCH IT. BUT I I, WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THERE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE DRIVERS OF THE HOTEL, OF THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE STAYING AT THE HOTEL. THESE ARE SOME OF THE EMPLOYERS THAT ARE, THAT WILL BE OUT THERE. THEIR BUSINESS TRAVELER HOTELS, JUST LIKE, UH, UH, MS. CHAPMAN, I THINK YOU SAID YOU TRAVEL A LOT. UH, SO , SO DO I, I ACTUALLY STAYED IN ONE OF THE QUOTE EXTENDED STAY, UH, HOLIDAY INN, UH, PRODUCTS, UH, UH, LAST TWO WEEKS AGO. AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE THERE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THE PHRASEOLOGY EXTENDED STAY IS BECAUSE IT HAS, IT HAS A KITCHENETTE AND THAT'S IT. AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REAL, THAT WE KNOW IT IS NOT THE, NOT THE BUDGET SUITES, THE SPRING HILL FOR THE MORE, UH, MORE LEISURE. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AMENITY PACKAGE. BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS WHAT THIS, THIS IS WHAT SOME OF THE, THE FACILITIES LOOK LIKE. THESE ARE GOOD QUALITY HOTELS. THIS IS, THIS IS THE LAYOUT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS ONE. AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION. BUT I DID WANNA MENTION, UH, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. THESE ARE FOUR STORY HOTELS. THE DEVELOPER HAS WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH CITY STAFF TO TRY AND ALSO NOT COMPETE WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS BUILT JUST TO [01:40:01] THE NORTH. WE HAVE ABOUT 2200 SQUARE FEET IN MEETING SPACE, WHICH WILL TAKE CARE OF, OF, OF SMALL, OF SMALL MEETINGS. THE, THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT I WOULD BRING IN 10 OR 15 OR 20 OF MY PEOPLE, THEY'LL TAKE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THAT'S WHAT OUR, THAT'S WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO. UH, THEY ARE A FRANCHISEE FROM MARRIOTT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. THESE ACTUALLY, UH, OPERATED BY MARRIOTT. THEY'RE A FRANCHISEE FOR MARRIOTT. THEY'RE VERY EXPERIENCES THAT NOTED EARLIER. AND I ALSO NOTED THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IN, UH, EARLIER, COULD THEY NOT JUST COMBINE IT INTO ONE, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS? THE PD ALLOWS FOR TWO, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DELAYED. UH, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE LAST MONTH. WE DELAYED IT TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT THE PD ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR TWO FIVE STORY HOTELS. AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING ARE TWO QUALITY FOUR STORE HOTELS. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE WHO CAN ANSWER AN, ANSWER ANY OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHO IS HERE THAT CAN ANSWER ANY OF ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES. HI. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU OR FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER, BUT I'M INTERESTED, I KNOW, UM, THE EXCHANGES PROGRAM WITH MARRIOTT, WHERE THEY HAVE THE SUPPLIER DIVERSITY POOL THAT THEY WORK THROUGH. I'M CURIOUS, ARE YOU GOING TO USE OUR RESOURCES HERE OUT OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE? THAT IS A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. MS. CHAPMAN. THANK YOU, SIR. MM-HMM . HELLO. ROGER SOTELLO WITH ICON DEVELOPMENT, UH, RESIDENT OF ARLINGTON, TEXAS, BUT USE THE EPIC FACILITY WITH MY FAMILY FREQUENTLY . SO CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION AGAIN, PLEASE? YES, SIR. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR SUPPLIER DIVERSITY NETWORK. I AM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH MARRIOTT AND THEIR EXCHANGES PROGRAM. MM-HMM . BUT I WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A PLENTIFUL RESOURCE HERE WITH SUPPLIERS THAT OF COURSE NEED THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE INVESTED IN OUR CITY. RIGHT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES HERE LOCAL TO WORK WITH THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOTEL, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF IT, OR IN, INTO THE OPERATIONS, THE CONSTRUCTION. THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE ICON ACTUALLY BUILDS OUR OWN HOTELS. SO WE DEVELOP, BUILD, AND OPERATE. SO WE STAY FOR THE LI LIFETIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE DO HAVE AN IN-HOUSE GROUP THAT, THAT BUILDS OUR HOTELS. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. UH, QUESTION. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. VERY SPECIFIC. YES, . VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YES, MA'AM. SO THIS IS A GENERAL RETAIL AREA. I KNOW THIS IS AN SUP. UM, MY CONCERN IS NOT ABOUT THE, THE INCOME TO THE CITY. MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT BACK UP TO THIS AREA, UM, FOUR STORIES AND LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 75 FEET TO A BACKYARD. I'M THINKING, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M, IF AM, AM I SEEING THAT RIGHT? CITY STAFF? YES. UM, CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK AT THE TIME COUNCIL AND POSSIBLY, UH, PNZ NOTED THAT THERE'S OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT WE JUST SAW IN FRONT OF CRUNCH. MM-HMM . UM, THAT'S A SIMILAR SCENARIO. UM, THESE CB, JENNY, THE DEVELOPER, MY UNDERSTANDING, I BROUGHT THIS UP AS WELL MM-HMM . MY UNDERSTANDING, THE DEVELOPER HAS TALKED, TALKED TO CB, JENNY, SO THEY'RE FULLY AWARE THAT THESE ARE COMING. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED. UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. YEAH. WELL, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO ME, AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW FROM, FROM YOU GUYS, UM, SO WHY THE, UM, WHY MINIMIZING THE MEETING ROOM AND, AND EXTENDING OUTDOOR SPACE IN A PLACE THAT TURNS INTO A, AN OVEN, TEXAS INSTEAD OF HAVING INDOOR MEETING SPACE, IS THERE, WAS THERE A REASON OR IS THIS FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'VE DONE ELSEWHERE? IT'S, IT'S ALL BASED ON, ON MARKET RESEARCH AS WELL. UHHUH, , UH, WE DO OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE OPERATE, WE HAVE A SALES TEAM THAT TELLS US, YOU KNOW, WE NEED, FOR THIS HOTEL TO WORK, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS MUCH MEETING SPACE. RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE CATERING TO, AS RODNEY MENTIONED, SMALL GROUPS, COMPANY MEETINGS. MM-HMM . UH, BALL CLUBS. WE DO DO A LOT OF BALL CLUBS, CRICKET, YOU KNOW, THEY COME AND THEY STAY AT YOUR HOTEL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT MEETING SPACE FOR THE TEAM DINNER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. RIGHT. SO IT'S ALL BASED ON THE MARKET AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE MARKET BEARS IT NEEDS. DID YOU GUYS STUDY WHAT, UM, MEETING SPACE IS AVAILABLE AT THE OTHER LOCAL HOTELS? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH AT THE OTHER HOTELS WITHIN OUR AREA. YEAH. IN THE VICINITY. YEAH. THE HOME, TWO SUITES DOWN ON 20 ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE. MM-HMM . THERE'S, THERE IS A MEETING ROOM. I'VE BEEN IN IT, UM, NOT HUGE. AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE SIMILAR SIZE THROUGHOUT THE VICINITY. SO YOU'RE OFFERING SOMETHING SIMILAR OR, OR SMALLER, IT SOUNDS LIKE. AM I [01:45:01] RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, A MODEL THAT WORKS. SO THAT HOME TWO IS OUR PROPERTY AS WELL. YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU HAVE, THE NUMBER, THE, THE MEETING SPACE THAT YOU WANT TO OFFER MM-HMM . SO IT'S A KIND OF A MODEL THAT WORKS, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF HOTEL IN THIS MARKET. OF COURSE, NOW WE'RE BRINGING NEWER UPGRADED PRODUCT TO THE MARKET WITH THIS NEWER AMENITY WITH THE OUTDOOR, UH, FACILITY THAT CAN ALSO BE SOLD AS AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY MM-HMM . TO BE RENTED OUT. AND SO IT'S OTHER THINGS TO DRIVE TO THE MARKET. YEAH. THE OUTDOOR AMENITY CAN BE RENTED OUT. IT, IT'S A POTENTIAL, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE MEETING SPACE, WE COULD USE IT THAT WAY, OR IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THE, HOW THEY WANT THE SALES TEAM WANTS TO USE TO DRIVE MORE PEOPLE TO THE HOTEL. OKAY. THE POOL SPACE, THE PATIO SPACE, THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? NO, THERE'S A, THERE'S A POOL PATIO AND THEN THERE'S THE OUTDOOR TERRACE. IT'S SECTIONED OFF. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I GUESS I DIDN'T SEE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONER COCA. AND, AND IT JUST, IT MAKES SENSE, LIKE, UH, WHEN WE HOST THE TEXAS BILINGUAL EDUCATORS CONFERENCE, WE HAVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 3000 TEACHERS, SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE NEED TO BOOK A HOTEL WITH PLENTY OF ROOMS WITH A BIG MEETING SPACE. MM-HMM . BUT I SEE YOUR POINT NOW, BECAUSE THESE ARE LIKE 120 ROOMS, 140, SO IT, IT, WE DON'T NEED A, A MAJOR, UM, MEETING ROOM TO, TO HOST 2000 TEACHERS BECAUSE RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR MARKETING, UH, RIGHT. UH, RATIONALE. WE'LL HAVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A NEARBY WHATABURGER OR SOMETHING HAVE A, A TEAM EVENT, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE SMALLER GROUPS. SO YOU DON'T NEED A CONVENTION CENTER LIKE YOU HAVE FOR THE CITY. MY UNDERSTANDING, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, UH, MAYBE RODNEY SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER MARRIOTTS. CORRECT. THIS IS FOR A DIFFERENT, UH, GROUP TYPE. YES. AND, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY STILL NEEDED. I THINK IF GRAND PRAIRIE IS GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, WE CAN DO GO OVER THE UUDC, BUT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE TWO QUALITY PROPERTIES TO ME. AND YOU'RE TRIED AND TRUE IN OTHER AREAS, AND, UH, THE CLOSEST, UH, FACILITIES YOU'VE BUILT IN THE AREA IS WHAT? FORT WORTH AND ELI? YES. WELL, THE ONE IN GRAND PRAIRIE RIGHT NEXT TO US. OKAY. UH, RIGHT BY US, BUT YES. OKAY. SO I, I, SO THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS THE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A, A SCREENING WALL. AND THEN I'M, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOISE AND, UH, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE BUFFERS IN BETWEEN AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREES AND THE BUSHES AND ALL OF THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A MASONRY WALL, THERE HAS TO BE A MEETING OF THE MINES AND A REACH OUT TO THE HOMEOWNERS, IN MY OPINION. IF I, IF YOU MIGHT, WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER THAT WILL BE DEVELOPING THAT BEHIND, THAT CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO OKAY. TO YOUR, AND TO YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. THAT HE'S HERE. OKAY, SIR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. UH, GOOD EVENING. AND I, I SUBMITTED A PRESENTER CARD. SO MY NAME'S CLINT NOLAN WITH CALERA, UH, 1845 WOODALL ROGERS FREEWAY, SUITE 1 11 60 IN DALLAS, 7 5 2 0 1. SO CALERA IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF THIS 55 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. UM, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE FOUNDRY IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED, UH, THAT THE, THE OVERALL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT'S CALLED MIDTOWN GP. UH, WE, WE STARTED I THINK IN JUNE OF 2018, UH, GOING THROUGH A 15 MONTH, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY. SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE. AND, UH, ULTIMATELY GOT THAT APPROVED IN OCTOBER OF 2019. AND SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT ON THESE TWO PARCELS OF LAND, UM, WHAT IS ENTITLED, UH, BY RIGHT TO BE DEVELOPED IS MULTIFAMILY OFFICE, GENERAL RETAIL ONE, AND HOTELS WITH AN SUP. UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE, UH, ACTUALLY HAD TWO HOTELS HERE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT WE COMMITTED TO, YOU KNOW, DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO BRING TO THE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE REVERTED TO DOING MORE MULTIFAMILY OR OTHER TYPES OF USES. UH, PERSONALLY, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS PARTNERED WITH US TO DO IN, IN THE TWO HOTELS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING. UM, QUITE FRANKLY, I I, WE DON'T WANT ECONOMY HOTELS ON THE DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A HIGH END, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE AT THIS SITE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE, HAVE SLIPPED IN AND GOTTEN APPROVED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY OKAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AN SUP IS REQUIRED BY THIS. BUT, UH, COVID DID SLOW THINGS DOWN, BUT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY BROUGHT THE, THE TWO HOTELS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT HEIGHT. SO ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE CONCEPT, UH, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, IT CONCEIVED OF A FIVE STORY HOTEL, WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING AS A FOUR STORY HOTEL. UM, ALSO AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE CITY VERY [01:50:01] MUCH WANTED THIS TO BE AN OPEN, A VERY INTERCONNECTED AND OPEN, UH, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE INTENTIONALLY DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF THE TYPICAL BUFFERING AND SCREENING WALLS THAT YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE SEE BETWEEN, WE, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE CHOPPED UP. WE WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE A COHESIVE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE WALKING TRAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF MEANDERS THROUGHOUT. UM, AND SO HOPE, HOPEFULLY THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, ONE OF THE, THE COMMITMENTS AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO BUFFER THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY THAT WAS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE TO THE WEST OF OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT WAS TO PUT FOR SALE TOWN HOMES, UH, BETWEEN THAT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY AND IN BETWEEN THE HIGHER DENSITY USES SUCH AS THIS ONE. AND IT'S SUCH AS OUR EXISTING MULTIFAMILY PRODUCT THAT IS IN WHAT'S CALLED ZONE B. SO, AND ZONE C IS THE LONG STRIP THAT GOES BETWEEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY AND BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT, CB JENNY IS BUILDING ALL OF THOSE TOWN HOMES. THEY'RE CONTRACTED WITH US TO BUILD ALL OF THOSE TOWN HOMES. THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AND THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STATES AND WHAT USES ARE CONCEIVED IN THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO NOW IT SOUNDS REALLY NICE, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN AGAIN, IS THE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SURE. AND MAKING SURE BECAUSE YOU'RE, IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A MASON WALL AND THEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO BE A COMFORTABLE MEETING, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. AND IT'S, AND I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ACTUALLY HOSTED, UH, AND, AND DID MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY LONG AGO WHEN WE DID THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM . UM, A LOT OF THEM SHOWED UP DURING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, APPLICATION TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY VOICED THEIR OPINION AND ALL OF THAT PLAYED INTO WHAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED. AND SO I DIDN'T WANT ANY OF YOU TO THINK THAT COMMUNITY HAD NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY NOTIFIED OR, OR AS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I JUST WANTED TO REINFORCE THAT. I BELIEVE WHAT WE BROUGHT, AS A MATTER OF FACT ON THESE EXACT TWO TRACKED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN ARE TWO HOTELS. AND SO WE, WE'VE, WE'VE BROUGHT EXACTLY WHAT WAS CONCEIVED AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND, AND FRANKLY, I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT IT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? GOOD QUESTION. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. UH, EXCELLENT JOB THERE IN THE PRESENTATION. AND FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE HOTELS MIGHT AS GO AHEAD AND HAVE SOME, SOME HIGH END QUALITY HOTELS IN. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. BUT JUST CURIOUS, HOW LONG WILL A PROJECT LIKE THIS TAKE TO, TO BUILD? UH, I'M GONNA LET THE HOTEL EXPERTS ANSWER THAT QUESTION JUST TO SEE . SO, AND I WANTED TO PULL UP THE SITE PLAN TOO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. UH, UM, MIGHT HELP US DIGEST THIS. UM, OH, I GUESS IT WAS BACK HERE. SO THE, IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR, 14 MONTHS TO BUILD. UM, THE, YOU KNOW, GOOD DRAWING TAKES ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AND THEN GOING THROUGH THE CITY THROUGH YOU ALL TO APPROVE THE BUILDING PERMIT TAKES ANOTHER MONTH OR SO. AND THEN, SO IT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS. UM, FROM APPROVAL TO, TO SEE IT, IT TAKES SOME TIME TO GET OUT, WHICH IS AGAIN, NOT WANTING TO COMPETE WITH THE, THE BEAUTIFUL DUAL BRAND THAT Y'ALL JUST PUT UP. AND YOU'RE GONNA GET A FOOTHOLD ON THE MARKET AND ESTABLISH YOURSELVES IN THE MARKET LONG BEFORE WE COME OUTTA THE GROUND. EXCELLENT. JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAVE THE WORLD CUP COMING INTO, YOU KNOW, TO THE US AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE WORLD HOTEL ATTRACT A LOT OF VISITORS. WE HAVE A WHAT? THE WORLD CUP. THE WORLD CUP. THE WORLD CUP. OKAY. IT COULD BE PERFECT, MAN. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA BRING? 'CAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO WRAP THIS UP. YES. UH, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT FROM ALSO MENTION THE HEIGHT, BUT WE'RE ALSO ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY. SO IT'S, YOU HAVE THAT TRAIL AND THEN YOU HAVE PARKING LOT WITH TREES AND, AND WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON THE TREES THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED AND ALL THAT. SO IT'S, WE'RE NOT RIGHT UP ON THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S QUITE, QUITE SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN. YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'LL DO IT FOR US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONERS, IS THAT IT? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD. UH, IT, UH, ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD. IT'S FROM, UH, SUNNY PATEL WHO JUST WANTED TO RECORD HIS SUPPORT. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONERS THERE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, FOR COMMISSIONER MADDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, YOU WANNA TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT OR YOU JUST WANNA GO FOR IT? HOPEFULLY SHE DOESN'T HAVE A GO FOR IT. FACE FOR FACE, NO, BUT I, I THINK MY CONCERNS ARE NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT, SO I'LL GO AHEAD UNLESS THERE'S OTHER DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 14 SUP 23 DASH 10 DASH 0 0 4 5 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SITE PLAN FOR FOUNDRY HOTELS AND MOVE THAT WE APPROVE BASED ON, UM, IN ADDITION TO DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 14 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER [01:55:01] GONZALEZ. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THAT BEING THE LAST CASE AT 7 46, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.