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I CALL THE MEETING ORDER AND, UH, GET RIGHT INTO STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
BILL? YES, MAYOR, THIS IS, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION.
MEGAN IS GONNA BE DOING THIS STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE LAKE LAKE RIDGE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE CURRENT STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE FUTURE.
SO, AS WILL KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN, UM, ACTIVELY INVOLVED, I APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS, UH, PROCESS.
WE'VE DONE SEVERAL THINGS OVER THE LAST YEAR, MOST NOTABLY IN THE FALL.
SO WE HAD SEVERAL IN PERSON, UM, FOCUS GROUPS.
WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT UNDER CONTRACT TO BEGIN DESIGN.
AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME RESULTS TO SHARE WITH YOU.
THE ONLINE SURVEY SURVEY HAD VERY GOOD RESULTS.
WE TARGETED, AS YOU CAN SEE IN, IN YELLOW, WE TARGETED ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN YELLOW, BASICALLY EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 20 WE DID.
WE ACTIVELY TRIED TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT THE SURVEY EXISTED.
UM, WE HAD AT THE END OF, AT THE CLOSE OF THE SURVEY, WE HAD AROUND 1200 RESIDENT RESIDENTS TAKE THE SURVEY.
WE HAD, UM, 83% FROM OUR SURVEY SAY THAT THEY WOULD BE LIKELY TO USE IT OR VERY LIKELY TO USE IT.
AND THE, THE GREAT NEWS IS ABOUT A THOUSAND OF THE 1200 RESIDENTS, UM, LIVE IN OUR TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO TOOK IT.
THIS WAS THE MEAT OF THE SURVEY, WHICH WAS, WHAT WOULD YOU BE LIKELY TO USE? WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SUPPORT? AND TO ME THAT'S LIKE YOU'RE, UM, LOOKING ONLINE AT, AT, UH, TRYING TO BUY A BLOUSE AND YOU PUT IT IN YOUR SHOPPING CART, BUT WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY GONNA CHECK OUT AND BUY? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA USE? SO WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE MORE THE SHOPPING CART.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, CHECK OUT AND, AND GO AND ATTEND.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF STRONG, UM, SUPPORT FOR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND WE HAD SOME THAT WERE NOT AS, AS, UM, STRONG AS.
UM, AS SOME OF Y'ALL KNOW, UH, MIGOS, HOA DID THEIR OWN SURVEY, WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN A SECOND.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE BROKE OUT FROM OUR PARTIC THE CITY SURVEY.
WE BROKE OUT, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION RELATED TO, UH, THE PENINSULA AND MAR LAGOS.
SO WE HAD 73% OF MAR LAGOS AND GRAND PENINSULA SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE LIKELY OR VERY LIKELY TO USE THE FACILITY.
UM, 78 OF JUST THE MAR LAGOS RESIDENTS SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE LIKELY OR VERY LIKELY TO USE THE FACILITY THAT WAS OUT OF THE 407 MI LAGOS RESIDENTS, UH, 318 SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE LIKELY OR VERY LIKELY TO USE IT.
THIS IS INTERESTING DATA BECAUSE WHEN THE MI LAGOS HOA DID A SURVEY, THEIR INFORMATION WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD IN OUR SURVEY.
THERE WAS, UM, A LOT MORE OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ.
SO I PRINTED IT OUT SO THAT YOU COULD SEE ALL THE MAIN QUESTIONS.
BUT, UM, SOME OF THE ANSWERS, AND, AND THEY HAD, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY SAID, THEY ASKED A QUESTION AND THEN THEY HAD, YOU WANTED A MORE DETAILED RESPONSE, YOU CAN HAVE A MORE DETAILED RESPONSE.
THE INTERESTING THING OF NOTE WAS THAT THERE WAS, THERE, WHILE THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION, SOME OF IT WAS TWO PARTICULAR USES.
SOME SAID, I WANNA SEE SOMETHING, BUT MAYBE I WANNA SEE TRAILS OR WANNA SEE A LIBRARY, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AND RECOMMEND IS THAT WE, UH, DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RESIDENTS, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA REALLY WANNA SEE.
SO BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN KIND OF MIXED, A MIXED BAG SO FAR, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO JUST EVALUATE AND BRING THIS BACK TO YOU AT A LATER DATE.
I KNOW THOSE THAT ATTENDED THE MERRILL LAW, THOSE, THERE WAS A LOT OF HEATED DISCUSSIONS.
UM, MAYOR, CAN I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION? YOU SAID THE FIRST SURVEY WAS SOURCE OF 20? YES.
THAT'S WHERE WE, WE OPENED IT TO ANYBODY, BUT WE, WE TARGETED, SO WE DID DIRECT MAILERS.
UM, WE DID A LOT MORE TARGETED, UM, INFORMATIONAL GATHERING THAT WOULD SAY THAT WESTRIDGE WEST WESTCHESTER.
SO THEY'RE, YOU WE'RE ASKING THEM WHETHER THEY WOULD DRIVE TO N LAGO CITY COMMUNITY CENTER.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, IF IT WAS, WHAT WOULD YOU BE LIKELY TO TO, UM, TO VISIT, GO BACK TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SURVEY.
IF YOU LOOK AT, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE NUMBER ONE IN THEIR RESPONSES, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE TRAFFIC AND PARKING CRIME.
UM, 52% OF WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A PRIVACY CONCERN.
AND SOME OF THESE WERE DETAILED IN THE, THE NARRATIVES
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THAT WERE WITH THE SURVEY.AND THAT'S WHY WE FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO BACK AND WE HAVE SOME MORE MEETINGS WITH THEM AND TALK TO FOLKS AGAIN, JUST IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO, YEAH, BRING IN THE SCOPE, BRING IN TO BRING IN THE SCOPE TO SEE WHAT, AND THAT WOULD BETTER GUIDE US AS TO WHAT WE WOULD PUT IN THE FACILITY.
THE ONES THAT I TALKED TO PERSONALLY SAID, WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE WHAT I THINK WE WANT AND WE NEED, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH US, THEY ALREADY HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER AND THERE'S ALREADY A COMMUNITY CENTER IN GRAND PENINSULA.
AND THE FEELING I'VE GOT WAS WHY HERE? UH, WE ALREADY HAD THIS, WE REALLY DON'T WANT ANYMORE.
UH, COULD WE MOVE IT A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH WHERE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING, INSTEAD OF PUTTING ONE DOWN HERE WHERE WE HAVE TWO ALREADY, THAT WAS A CONSTANT THEME.
UH, SO I'M AGREE WITH STAFF, UH, TO KIND OF PUT IT ON PAUSE, DIG A LITTLE DEEPER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IT THERE BECAUSE WE BOUGHT THE LAND.
WE CAN HOLD IT AND WE CAN SELL IT.
LET'S JUST HIT IT ON PAUSE AND DO, GO DEEPER AND SEE WHAT WE FIND OUT.
I I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT HALF THE RESIDENTS IN DON'T WANT.
SO, COUNCIL MEMBER HEADON, UM, I WAS LOOKING HERE AT THE, THE NUMBERS ON CRIME, UM, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS WAS PERCEPTION OR A POSSIBLE REAL REALITY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A VALID CONCERN? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, I THINK IT'S PERCEPTION MAINLY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE TRAFFIC, THE MORE CRIME SOMETIMES
I, I WOULD, I WOULD, CRIME IS NOT A CONCERN OF MINE AT ALL IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE DON'T HAVE, TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES AT A COMMUNITY CENTER ANYMORE THAN OTHERS.
IT CERTAINLY A PERCEPTION ISSUE.
SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH KIND OF LETTING BIG DEEPER COUNCILOR MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM? WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY THAT'S SOUTH, BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON ONE HOA TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
ONCE YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE, IT'D BE GREAT TO PROBABLY ASSOCIATE THOSE WITH WESTCHESTER WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, HIGH HAWK AND DIFFERENT LAKE PARTS.
MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE AND SAY, HEY, THIS ONE HOA DID THE SURVEY.
DO Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THE SURVEY? WHETHER IT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BOARD OR THEIR OA.
BUT THAT WAY WE GET MORE DATA AND, AND GET THEIR THOUGHTS AROUND IT BECAUSE WHAT DO WE SAY, OKAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WANTED HERE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO LEARN THERE'S OTHER HOAS OR OTHER KIDS THAT SAYS, WELL, NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
I WANT IT, BUT NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
SO, SO IF HE CONVERSE, WE MAY FIND SOMEBODY, WELL BOY, IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT.
YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THAT WAY WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOUTH UP LITTLE NORTH AND GET, GET THEM INVOLVED TOO.
ME PRO TIM, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GO TO THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAD THROUGH OUR SURVEY AND WE WOULD GET A MORE FOCUSED LOOK AT WHAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD WANT NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND OBVIOUSLY TO DO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US SOME MORE TIME.
BUT WE'D RATHER BE SURE WHAT'S A BIG DEAL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RATHER THAN JUST ASSUME AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND, AND THE LAST THOUGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UM, I KNOW WHEN THERE WE DID THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED PEOPLE TO COME TO THE HOA BUILDING AND THEY WENT ROUND AND PUT THEIR DOLLARS OR WHATEVER.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY MIGHT WANT TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF PUTTING THERE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN
SO WE'RE PACKAGE SOMETHING, SAY, WELL, THESE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT COULD COME AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? I AGREE THIS WITH THAT.
I MEAN THIS IS PART OF OUR VISION, WHAT WE THOUGHT OF SO FAR.
THIS IS WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IS GOING TO HAVE IN IT.
MEETING ROOMS. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN COME OUT WITH THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. I THINK IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE, THEY'RE RIGHT.
THEY HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY WANT, BUT NORTH OF THE BRIDGE WILL BE EXCITED TO HAVE A CENTER.
AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEIR DESIRE YEAH.
IS GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO 10.
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FOR INSTANCE.SO THEN ONCE WE START GETTING BROADER AND ASKING MORE QUESTIONS INDIVIDUALLY, NOW IT COULD GROW INTO SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER OR MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE EACH COMMUNITY MAY WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN AND MOVE FROM THE SOUTH FURTHER TO THE NORTH AND GET INFORMATION FROM EACH DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF HOAS OUT THERE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD NATION THAT ARE ACTIVE EXACTLY.
THAT WE CAN GO TO, WE CAN BRING THE INFORMATION TO AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE, FIND OUT THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE AN EDUCATED WHO WANTS IT, WHAT THEY WANT, AN EFFECTIVE DECISION OF WHO WANTS IT AND WHO DOESN'T.
I THINK WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHO WANTS IT.
I THINK WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE GENERAL THINGS ARE GONNA BE AND THEN WE CAN ADD SOME FLUFF ON THE SIDE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WANT.
BUT WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE CERTAIN THINGS NO MATTER WHERE WE BUILD IT OR WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD IT.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MEETING SPACES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, ALL I KEEP THINKING ABOUT IS THE YMCA.
SO I NEED TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
I I, IS OUR FACILITY GONNA BE CHEAPER AND BETTER? IS OUR, IS IT CHEAPER TO GO TO CITY RECREATION FACILITY THAT YMCA IS? I MEAN REALLY, I WOULDN'T WANNA BUILD THE COAST TO THE YMCA.
AND THAT'S, I I I THINK THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL DEAL.
'CAUSE THE YMCA FILLS A NEED FOR CASTLE RIDGE AND OVER THERE.
SO I'M LOOKING MORE JUST ME PERSONALLY MORE ALONG LAKE RIDGE, BUT A LITTLE FURTHER NIGHT NORTH IN THOSE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT WE DISCUSSED ON BEFORE.
I DON'T, WILLIAMS, I THINK IT'D BE, I DON'T THINK IT'D BE WISE FOR US TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER IN RIDGE AREA BECAUSE THAT YES, YMC FILLS THAT NEED, THEY DO A GREAT OUTREACH AND I THINK THEIR PRICE POINT'S PRETTY GOOD.
BOB, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.
SO IS, AND I'M JUST GOING ALONG HERE.
SO IS WESTCHESTER NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE LIST AND ARE WE OFFENDING THEM IF WE DON'T INCLUDE UH, YES.
WE'LL DISCOUNT THEIRS REAL BIG.
SAY THEY GOT THE Y BUT YOU'RE WHITE RIGHT? THE Y SITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF WESTCHESTER.
YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW MAYOR AND BILL.
I THINK THE IDEA IS REALLY GOOD.
GO IN HERE WHAT THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS SAY AND THEN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.
WE CAN DISCOUNT HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE BUBBLES.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I JUST WANT TO HEAR YEAH, YOU COULD SEE IT DIRECTION THAT GOING BE BILL ALONG LAKE GROUPS AND JUST GIVE THE GENERAL IDEA AND PEOPLE IT IS.
'CAUSE THAT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY MORE THAT WAY THEY HAVE AN IDEA WE'LL OVER THERE AND RIGHT.
NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DKI CAME AND REQUESTED THAT WE LOOK AT OUR CITY COUNCIL PAY, PAY AND THE PER DIEM RATE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND WITH THAT, SO THIS WOULD BE TWO AND THREE TOGETHER.
THIS IS TWO AND THREE TOGETHER.
SO I'M GONNA ASK, UH, CHERYL TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION OR Y'ALL CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE.
THIS IS WHAT YEAH, THIS IS ALWAYS THE YEAH, IT MISSOURI OF DECEMBER.
THIS IS, I KNOW, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK THE MOST FUN MEETING WE HAVE.
WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE EVERYTHING.
SO ANYWAY, WE WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COUNCIL PAY PER DM.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS IS, WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL PAY? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM OUR CHARTER.
IT SAYS THE MAYOR GETS A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY GET $5, UH, FOR EACH MEETING.
UM, AND THAT IS, THAT IS PER OUR CHARTER.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CHANGE AS IT SAYS, UNLESS WE DO, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CHARTER.
SO THAT CHARTER AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CHANGE THAT.
SO THAT KIND OF TECHNICALLY ANSWERS THAT QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT ONE, BUT THAT WAS COUNCIL PAY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
I I DI I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY CARE ABOUT GOING TO A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO RAISE THE PAY, UH, THE PER DIEM.
UH, AND WHAT WE DO AS REIMBURSEMENT IS A, IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
UH, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME AND WE CAN KIND OF DECIDE WE WANT TO GO, UH, TO GIVE SOME OF YOU THE HISTORY ON WHY WE GET THE, UH, WELL SHOW US WHAT WE GET PER MONTH MAIL.
I DON'T ACTUALLY, I DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT.
I JUST DID THE, THE ONLY SLIDE THAT I HAD WAS JUST, OKAY.
RIGHT NOW I THINK I GET, UH, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS GET 500,
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SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'D GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK I'D GET SEVEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
DEPUTY MAYOR GETS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
IT, SO, UH, KATHY DIMAGGIO, THE CITY SECRETARY BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED WHILE MAYOR ENGLAND WAS ELECT ELECTED TO MAYOR, GOT TIRED OF US TURNING IN RECEIPTS.
WE, AND SHE WENT TO, UH, TOM HART AND THE MAYOR SAID, LOOK, I, I'M TIRED OF TAKING, GIVING RECEIPTS.
CAN WE JUST GIVE EVERYONE A STIPEND OR CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR EXPENSES, NOT HOURLY TIME SPENT, BUT REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR EXPENSES.
AND SHE CAME UP WITH THE ORIGINAL FIGURE.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE INCREASED IT A FEW TIMES BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSES GOING UP AND NOW IT'S AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
AND, UH, WE CAN CHANGE THAT WITHOUT A CHARTER CHARTER AMENDMENT.
BUT THEN YOU GET CLOSE TO, OKAY, ARE YOU JUST DOING IT INSTEAD OF INCREASING FOR YOUR EXPENSES? YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO INCREASE IT TO GIVE YOU MORE PAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S TRICKY RIGHT NOW WE WOULD PROBABLY ALL AGREE AT, UH, WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD AGREE TO, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS TO TRY TO COVER OUR EXPENSES AND, UH, NOWADAYS WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE EXPENSES WE HAD BACK THEN.
ONE OF 'EM WAS WE ALL GOT TO TURN IN FOR A LANDLINE FOR FAX MACHINES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T THE SAME ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S, AND THEN, UH, YEAH, I DO STILL HAVE A LANDLINE MAYOR.
THE REASON THAT THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT SLIDE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO MENTION OR TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO A NEW EVALUATION OF WHAT YOUR ACTUAL EXPENSES ARE BASED UPON WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TURNED IN, INTO RECEIPTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT.
IF WE WERE ON A, IF YOU WERE ON TURNING IN RECEIPTS, WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE PRIOR TO BRINGING THAT TO THE COUNCIL FOR EVALUATION? BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE AND BRING THIS WHAT WE GET NOW SO WE CAN COMPARE IT.
BECAUSE WE WANNA BE REAL CAREFUL WITH THAT.
BECAUSE IF IT'S MORE THAN REIMBURSEMENT, WE ARE TROTTING ON SOME SHAKY GROUND TO WHERE YOU MAY HAVE TO BE TAXED.
WELL, WE ALREADY ON THAT AMOUNT.
NOW WE GET JUST TAXED UNLESS WE KEEP THE RECEIPTS AND RIGHT.
BUT CURRENTLY WE'RE TAX ON IT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY YOU'RE TAXED ON IT.
BUT THE KEY IS IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT.
SO WE'D STILL GET TAXED ON IT.
EVEN IF WE RAISED HER ORDER, YOU'RE GONNA GET TAXED ON THE FULL AMOUNT.
I, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL NOT GET IT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING MORE THAN REIMBURSING YOURSELF OR EXPENSES.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY CIRCUMVENTING THE CHARTER AND PAYING YOURSELF.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO, MAYOR, IS WE NEED TO GET, WE GET TAXED ON THE CHARTER AMOUNT TOO.
WE NEED TO GET A, WE NEED TO GET A GOOD NUMBER.
THAT'S A REIMBURSABLE MANSFIELD JUST INCREASED THEIR PAY.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CHARTER.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE CHARTER.
'CAUSE THEIR CHARTER ALLOWS THEM TO SET THEIR PAY.
OUR CHARTER'S PRETTY OLD AND PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
NOW, I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T, THAT I, THAT THE MAYOR SHOULDN'T GET MORE THAN A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
Y'ALL SHOULDN'T GET FOUR MORE THAN $5.
IT JUST, AND THAT WOULD TAKE A, A MO A VOTE AND WE COULD COME UP WITH THE AMOUNT.
SO LET'S LET HIM DO THE STUDY AND BRING US BOTH BACK AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE DO WE WANT TO GO TO A CHARTER AMENDMENT? HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO PAY OURSELVES? AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE REIMBURSEMENT WE GET AND THEN THE TRAVEL POLICY ON PER DIEM.
DO WE NEED TO CHANGE IT? SEE THAT'S KIND OF THREE THINGS.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S KEY, MARY, IS THAT IF WE LOOK AT IT, WE CAN COME UP WITH A GOOD NUMBER AND IF THE NUMBER IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO WANT TO DO AND IT'S THREE DIFFERENT ISSUES, RIGHT? IT'S THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOUR PAY IS ONE THING THROUGH THE CHARTER PAY THROUGH THE CHARTER REIMBURSEMENT IS THE SECOND THING.
AND AGAIN, I KEEP SAYING REIMBURSEMENT.
'CAUSE REIMBURSEMENT IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL.
AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER THAT IS DEFENSIBLE AS REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THEN THE PER DIEM IS SEPARATE FROM ALL OF THOSE THREE THAT IS TRAVEL RELATED TRAVEL PRETTY RIGHT NOW THAT'S TRAVEL RELATED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN SO FAR AS YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE ALL THAT TO US, THE NEXT MEETING, SINCE
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WE DON'T MEET FOR A MONTH, GIVE US A COUPLE, WELL WE DON'T MEET FOR THREE WEEKS.IF Y'ALL GIVE US THE SECOND MEETING IN UH, JANUARY, WE, WE CAN BRING SOMETHING TO YOU.
BUT IN SO FAR AS THE PER DIEM, WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING, IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN CHERYL, THAT UNDER OUR PER DIEM, IF YOU'LL LOOK, THE PER DIEM IS SET BY THE GSA.
ANYTHING IN IN IN EXCESS OF THE GSA IS TAXABLE.
SO Y'ALL CAN GET A PER, WE GET, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, WHEN WE GO ON TRAVEL, WE GET THE PER DIEM IN CASH OR TURNING RECEIPTS.
IT'S NOT TAXABLE 'CAUSE IT'S THE PER DIEM.
BUT IF WE DO MORE THAN THE PER DIEM TAXABLE, THE AMOUNT BEYOND THE GSA SET PER DIEM WILL BE TAXABLE WOULD BE ADDED TO OUR W2, WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR W2.
BUT WHATEVER'S ALLOCATED RIGHT NOW IS NOT ENOUGH.
WELL, AND THAT'S ONE THINGS WE CAN COVER.
DO WE WANT TO INCREASE IT AND HAVE IT TAX? BUT THAT'S UNDER THE GSAI UNDERSTAND.
HE, HE UNDERSTANDS THAT OKAY, IF WE INCREASE IT, THE AMOUNT THAT WE INCREASE IT TO IS TAX.
TAX, IT'S GOING TO BE TAXABLE.
WHICH, AND UNLESS YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AMOUNT.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DECISION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IS YOU WANT TO BE T ON THE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IS JUST TO CASH THIS OUT AND LEAVE THAT UP TO US.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH, TO KEEP UP WITH THE RECEIPTS AND MAKE SURE THIS, AND THEN THE HEY, UH, SO WHAT YOU WOULD DO, YOU'D, YOU'D GET YOUR PER DIEM IN ADVANCE AND DON'T TURN ANY RECEIPTS IN.
'CAUSE LIKE, BUT IF YOU GET DOUBLE THE PER DIEM, HALF OF IT WOULD BE TAXABLE.
I MEAN, WHATEVER THE PER DIEM IS, I THINK, WHAT IS IT? $77, 75? NO, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT CITY YOU'RE GOING TO.
SO LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY IT'S $50.
RIGHT? THEN I HAVE, YOU PAY ME $50 AND IF I WANNA SPEND $52 AND THAT'S $2.
I THOUGHT WE COULD DO THAT ALREADY, RIGHT? YOU CAN.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE DONE IS, HEY, HANG ON.
I WASN'T UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALREADY DO THAT.
AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE.
YOU CAN CAN DO IT, YOU CAN GET YOUR ADVANCED PER DIEM IN CASH OR CHECK OR CHECK.
AND YOU DON'T TURN IN A RECEIPT.
RECEIPT, YOU'RE HAVE TURN IN RECEIPT EXCEPT FOR UBER.
AND THEN HOW, UH, HOW MUCH NOTICE WOULD YOU NEED IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THAT? SO JUST WHEN YOU GET READY TO TRAVEL, YOU FILL OUT YOUR TRAVEL FORMS, YOU WORK WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, THEY RETURN ALL THAT NECESSARY FORM.
SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THE DATES THAT YOU'RE GONNA TRAVEL AND THEN THEY CAN ISSUE THAT CHECK FOR YOU.
WHEN MY TRAVEL PEOPLE TRAVEL, THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY FOR ANY BUSINESS MAN TO DO IT.
WE PUT 'EM ON THE PER DIEM, PAID THEM.
I DON'T, I DIDN'T CARE IF THEY ATE MCDONALDS EVERY DAY AND UH, MAY TOOK THEIR OWN LUNCHES.
AND SO I I WOULD BE, AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT MM-HMM
AND BUT YOU SAID IT RIGHT? YOU TURN IN YOUR TRAVEL, YOU TURN IN, UM, WE DON'T DO PER DIEM FOR HOTELS.
CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
THE ACTUAL, IF YOU'RE TRUE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, THE SAE MEETINGS I HAVE, SHE ALWAYS FINDS AND A HOTEL THAT THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES CAN STAY AT AND MEETS THEIR PER, PER THEIR PER DIEM PER HOTEL TOO.
THAT WAY THEY GET TO CLAIM THAT.
UM, WE AREN'T UNDER THAT RULE.
WE STAY AT HOTELS MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE ALL TRAVEL TO T-M-L-R-N-L-C, WE'RE ALLOWED TO STAY AT HOTELS THAT THEY LIST.
AND IF IT'S OVER THE PER DIEM, IT'S OVER THE PER DIEM.
NOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA LIST, LIST THEIR RENTS, BUT WE KNOW NOT TO GO STAY AT THEIR C THE OTHER ISSUES IS RELUCTANCE REGARDING BUSINESS MEALS FOR ALL OF YOU, I MIGHT ASK CHERYL TO EXPLAIN OUR BUSINESS MEALS BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE ISSUING CARDS, CREDIT CARDS, PURCHASE CARDS IN YOUR PURCHASE CARDS IN YOUR SPECIFIC NAME, RATHER THAN YOU HAVING TO GET IT FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO KEEP SEPARATE EACH PERSON'S EXPENSES AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THEY DO.
AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, SO FOR BUSINESS, BUSINESS MEALS IS SOMETHING THEY TRAVEL, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE ON TWO SLIDES IS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PER DIEM AND A BUSINESS MEAL.
HOWEVER, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU TRAVEL OR WHEN YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT DOING YOUR BUSINESS, YOU MAY HAVE A BUSINESS MEAL.
IF YOU DO HAVE A BUSINESS MEAL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHARGE THAT ON THE CARD.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE KEY PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ON THAT RECEIPT.
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE NAME OF ALL THE FOLKS THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING AND THE PURPOSE.
AND THAT'S THE SAME WAY IT IS IN MY BUSINESS.
WE, SO THE I RS LOOKS AT THAT, YOU HAVE TO PUT, THAT'S WHAT I RATHER JUST CASH OUT ON IS OUR BUSINESS.
BUSINESS AND MIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN THAT IN.
IF YOU PAY FOR THE BUSINESS BILL ON YOUR OWN
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FINE, JUST LET US KNOW.BUT WE WANNA HAVE EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS CARD, THE NICKNAME FARM IS P CARDS.
ALSO, WHEN YOU TRAVEL, YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME PER IN, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR HOTEL EXPENSES, YOU CAN USE THAT PURCHASE CARD ALSO TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE HOTEL AND EVERYTHING.
SO, SO THERE'S ONE CENTRAL SPOT FOR YOU.
WHEN YOU TRAVEL, YOU CAN CHARGE ALL THOSE EXPENSES.
THE ONLY THING YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IS ON THE PER DIEM, IF YOU DO THE PER DIEM, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR PER DIEM AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE THAT ONTO THE CART.
I WOULD JUST USE THAT JUST FOR THE HOTEL AND UBER AND THAT'S IT.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE ALL THE, THAT'S SO THAT, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA ORDER THOSE CARDS FREE FOR THE FOLKS THAT WANT IT.
THE FOLKS THAT DON'T, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
BUT, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT.
THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO IT, I JUST USE IT ON THE HOTELS OR UBERS.
IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO, I DON'T NEED THE CARD.
I THINK THAT, WELL, WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE CAN JUST KEEP YOUR CARDS IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
YOU CAN PICK IT UP WHEN YOU TRAVEL
WE'LL PICK IT UP WHEN YOU, WE PICK IT UP WHEN YOU TRAVEL.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. SO I, I WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, THESE ARE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AND SO WE GOTTA BE MINDFUL OF THE USE OF THE DOLLARS AND I BELIEVE IN A PAPER TRAIL BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MY BACKGROUND.
AND SO I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO JUST HAND OUT MONEY WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF RECEIPT OR STATEMENT SAYING YOU USING IT FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION, WELL, THE QUESTION I HAVE, WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
NO, THE ONLY THING THAT WE, YOU CAN GET ADVANCE IS THE PER DIEM RATE.
I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ADVANCE, ADVANCE REIMBURSEMENT.
JUST USE THE 'CAUSE AS CLEAN AS OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENTS, AGENCIES APPROVE IT AND IT'S REAL CLEAN.
'CAUSE YOU, AND IT SAYS IT IN THE GUIDELINES, THEN YOU DON'T KEEP UP THE RECEIPTS AS LONG AS THE STATEMENT IS AGREED TO UPON AS LONG AS YOU USING IT FOR THE NO, NO, IT, IT'S, IT IS NOT FOR BUSINESS PERM, IT'S FOR TRAVEL.
THE PER DIEM WE ONLY GET IS TRAVEL.
IT'S NOT THE PERM IS GOVERNED BY GSA, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT THE RATES PER, PER ARE, PER CITY A, IT'S DIFFERENT PER CITY.
WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE LAW THAT OTHER CITIES USE AND OTHER, OTHER GO GOVERNMENT AGENCIES USE.
SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A BUSINESS MILL.
THOSE YOU HAVE TO TURN IN BY RECEIPT.
YOU DON'T GET A PER DIEM ON BUSINESS MEALS.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECEIPTS IN GENERAL AND THE USE OF THE DOLLAR AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE FEE.
SO, SO IF YOU, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE YOUR PURCHASE CARD, ANYTHING YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE PER DIEM, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU CHARGE ON THE CARD, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A RECEIPT.
SO IF YOU CHARGE AN UBER, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO AND PRINT THAT UBER RECEIPT AND, AND ATTACH THAT WITH YOUR STATEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A RECONCILIATION THAT WE DO WITH THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY DOES WITH THE PURCHASE PARTS.
SO THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO IF A RECEIPT IS LOST, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SIGN A LITTLE FORM THAT SAYS IT'S LOST.
SO OUR AUDITORS, WE CALL ALL IN ATLANTA.
WHEN WE'RE IN ATLANTA REIMBURSED.
SO, DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH IT IS.
BUT YES, WE STILL, WE, WE HAVE EVERYBODY FILL IT OUT AND WE FILL OUT TO SAY I LOST IT BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S FOR THREE BUCKS.
IT, IT WOULD, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAD.
THE KEY IS, IS THAT BY USING YOUR CARD, YOU'RE SIGNING SAYING THAT YOUR CARD WAS USED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND AS LONG AND ON YOUR, WE'LL RECEIVE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS YOU USED THE CARD FOR X, Y, Z, WHERE ARE YOU? TIME AND EVERYTHING.
IF YOU LOST THE RECEIPT FOR X, Y, Z, YOU'RE GONNA SIGN A, A FORM THAT SAYS X, Y, Z WAS AN ALLOWABLE USE FOR THIS CARD.
AND I'M, AND I'M AND I'M SIGNING THIS SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
AND YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT IN THE CREDIT CARD STAPLE WILL SAY IT TOO.
SO WE WERE IN ATLANTA, YOU KNOW WHERE WE MET EVERY MORNING, A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP DOWNSTAIRS.
I, I HAD A COFFEE, UH, AND A, UM, CROISSANT SANDWICH.
IT WAS $21, BUT OUR PER DIEMS LIKE 18.
SO WHEN MY ASSISTANT CAME AND SAID, HEY, I NEED YOUR RECEIPTS, OKAY, YEAH, THIS AND THAT.
AND I'M LIKE, WHICH ONE IS IT? AND THE DIFFERENCE WAS $3 WHEN I SAW THAT, I'M LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT THREE BUCKS.
AND I JUST THREW IT AWAY, BUT NOW SHE HAS TO FILL OUT THIS FORM AND THIS AND THAT, AND I'M LIKE, OH, WE GOTTA GO THROUGH ALL THIS FOR $3.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, MAN, WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD FOR WHAT WE GET PAID FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER JUST CASH ME OUT.
AND IF I WANNA SPEND A HUNDRED, LET ME SPEND A HUNDRED.
AND THEY'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, GIVEN ME WHAT WHAT'S GOING BY.
YOU CAN SPEND WHATEVER YOU WANT.
THAT'S JUST NOT, THAT'S NOT BUSINESS CREDIT CARD STATEMENT.
SO MY, MY QUESTION IS ON THE RECEIPTS, THE DETAILED RECEIPT THAT YOU'RE NEEDING YES.
WHAT WOULD PURCHASE, SO FOR, FOR ON THE BUSINESS MEALS, NOT IF YOU'RE ON THE PER DIEM.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS MEALS
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NOT, BUT FOR THE BUSINESS MEALS PER DIEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT DEAL.FOR BUSINESS MEALS, WOULD YOU NEED, LET'S SAY YOU'RE IN AUSTIN, YOU WANT TO PICK UP, YOU HAVE A DINNER WITH CHRIS TURNER MM-HMM
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HIM TO PAY WE DID THAT, REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DID THAT.
YOU BUY HIS DINNER? ISN THAT A GOOD EXAMPLE? YEAH.
I'VE GONE DOWN THERE AND HAD DINNER WITH SENATOR WEST.
I'M NOT GONNA HAVE HIM PAY THE DINNER.
I PAID FOR HIS DINNER ALONG WITH OUR LOBBYIST AND I TURNED IN THE RECEIPT.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S AND EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS WITH SENATOR WEST.
YEAH, NO, I KNOW WE WERE TALKING EARLIER WHERE ON YOUR CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ON SAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS SPENT FOR DINNER.
YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T ITEMIZE THE ITEM.
SO THE DETAILED RECEIPT, LET'S, RIGHT, IF YOU WERE TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARD, OKAY.
UH, FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS MEAL, OKAY.
WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD TURN IN THAT RECEIPT FOR THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS MEAL, BUT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT BUSINESS.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S A BUSINESS MEAL.
SO YOU TURN IN THE RECEIPT, THE RECEIPT WOULD'VE, THE DETAIL OF, OF WHAT WAS BEING PURCHASED AND THEN WHO IT WAS WHEN HE LIVED THERE.
YOU JUST PUT ON THE BACK OF IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE, WE WENT TO AUSTIN LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD DINNER WITH HIM, BUSINESS ASSISTANT.
WE END UP HAVING TO FLIP, ARE YOU GONNA PUT YOUR CAR PUT? RIGHT.
AND THOSE ARE NORMAL WHEN WE GO DOWN THERE.
WE LOVE TAKING THEM TO DINNER.
THEY WANT US TO, I, I OWE SENATOR WEST TO BREAKFAST.
HE TELLS ME EVERY TIME IT SEASON.
SO FOR THE BUSINESS MEALS, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DIFFERENT AWARD PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT LUNCHEONS THAT WE ATTEND? OR WILL THE CITY TAKE CARE OF THOSE TICKETS FOR? WE STILL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT.
OKAY, SO WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SPONSORSHIP TICKETS AND A PROPOSED GRANT POLICY WE WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT REAL QUICK.
SO, UM, LAST TIME WE GAVE YOU A HANDOUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS FOR SPONSORSHIP.
YOU GUYS ASKED US TO COME BACK AND, AND CREATE A SPONSORSHIP POLICY.
SO, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
UM, I WANT TO, I'M GONNA READ THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO READ.
SO WHEN THE CITY PROVIDES FUNDING OR KIND SERVICES TO ASSIST IN ADVERTISING OR STAKING AN EVENT OR PROGRAM HOST BY A THIRD PARTY IN RETURN FOR BENEFITS, INCLUDING RECOGNITION AND TICKETS US TO AN EVENT.
OKAY? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DOING A SPONSORSHIP FOR SOMEBODY.
WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA SPONSOR YOU FOR DOING SOME SORT OF BENEFIT.
THAT BENEFIT IS GOING TO SOMEHOW BENEFIT THE CITY.
OKAY? UM, IT REQUIRES FOR IT TO, FOR THEM TO GET SPONSORSHIP FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT.
IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A, UH, AN APPLICATION TO BE FILLED OUT.
YOU'RE GONNA ASK FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE HAVE A SPECIFIC APPLICATION THAT WE ARE GONNA ASK FOR THEM TO DO.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO THIS PROCESS.
WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME IS ONCE A YEAR.
SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING THEM, UM, EVERY MONTH OR EVERY OTHER WEEK, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS JUST ONCE A YEAR WE'RE GOING TO DO A CALL AND SAY, IF YOU HAVE EVENTS NEXT YEAR, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL VET THEM ALL ONCE.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS GONNA TAKE THAT LISTING TO YOU AND WE'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IN JANUARY.
AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE FUNDS THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE GONNA BE ALLOCATING FOR THAT.
SO BANQUETS, LUNCHEONS THAT WE GO TO, WE ALL GO TO, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO FUND THOSE SO WE CAN HAVE A TABLE AND BE THERE.
THEY, OUR CITIZENS WANT US THERE.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU NEED TO BE A 5 0 1 C3 OR A 5 0 1 C FOUR.
AND, AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA INCLUDE SOME GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.
SO WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THEM.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WE FUND THEM.
AND SO THIS IS THE CRITERIA AND OUR, OUR SPONSORSHIP POLICY.
WHY WOULD WE CONSIDER SPONSORING A C4 AS THE CAPABILITY TO PARTAKE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY? THE NAACP IS A C4 AND WE SPONSOR THEIR LUNCHEON, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE BIN.
SO IF WE STUCK WITH JUST C3, TECHNICALLY WE ALSO FUNDED LULAC AS WELL.
BUT I THINK THERE'S C4 TOO, BUT THEY'RE, I RECALL
SO WE JUST WANT, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A POLICY THAT INCLUDED IN I LIKE THAT.
CHAMBERS, OUR GRAND CHAMBER AND HISPANIC CHAMBER ARE BOTH C SIXES.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A MORE GENERIC WAY IN THE IRS LAW I CAN FIND TO ROLL THAT UP.
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? YEAH, SURE.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE FEARFUL OF WHAT I JUST LEARNED.
SO FIVE OH, AND FORGIVE ME, 5 0 1 C FOUR IS A NONPROFIT THAT'S POLITICALLY CAN BE, THAT CAN BE, IT CAN ENGAGE, NOT ALL ARE BLUE LACKS.
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THEY'RE NOT.THREES BECAUSE THEY'RE TAX EXEMPT.
SO THE CITY VOLUNTARILY GIVES MONEY TO ENTITIES THAT CAN BE RUN SOMEBODY AGAINST YOU.
TO BE BLUNT, RUN SOMEBODY AGAINST ME.
NO, I'M, I'M BEING THAT GENERIC, BUT HUMPS, WHICH I WOULD'VE A PROBLEM WITH, BUT THAT IS WHAT A C FOUR CAN DO.
THEY CAN'T RUN SOMEBODY AGAINST IT.
THEY CAN SUPPORT A, I MEAN, SO AND SO THAT'S BEING BLUNT.
A C FOUR CAN SUPPORT SOMEBODY THAT'S RUNNING AGAINST SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL TO PROVE FUNDING FOR THE WASTE SOUNDS LINE LIKE A PACK.
ARE WE GIVING MONEY TO PACKS? WELL, THIS IS NOT, PACK IS DIFFERENT THAN A C FOUR.
YOU JUST SAID PAC'S ONE SO THAT, BUT SO I, YEAH, I'M MAYBE THE ONLY ONE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON OUR LIST.
WE, WE, WE CAN ADJUST THAT TO WHERE FIVE ONE C3 C4 OR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
COMMERCE, HIS QUESTION WAS, SHOULD WE GIVE MONEY TO A GROUP THAT CAN BE POLITICALLY ACTIVE? SO THAT'S A VALID QUESTION.
UH, BRING US THE POLICY BACK AND WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT.
SEE, TELL US HOW MANY C FOURS THERE ARE AND WHETHER THEY'RE POLITICALLY ACTIVE OR NOT.
SO WE CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT.
SO WE WANNA TALK A LITTLE GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT IF IT'S A GROUP THAT HAS A C3 AND A C FOUR ARM? BECAUSE THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN, THEY CAN PUT A WALL IN BETWEEN THE TWO.
IT MEAN IT HAS TO DO, UH, IS RULES THAT DON'T ALLOW IT TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
WE WANT TO GIVE THE MONEY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HELPING OUR POOR GIVE FOOD TO PEOPLE, NURTURING CHILDREN THAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE MONEY TO A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE.
SO IF WE CAN TIGHTEN IT UP TO WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, I THINK WE'LL ALL GET COMFORT.
THE KEY IS, IS THAT THIS IS ALWAYS GONNA COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.
HOWEVER, SO IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO FIND, LET'S JUST SAY THERE IS A C FOUR OUT THERE, BUT WE, THEY'VE HAD PROVEN SUCCESS OF DOING WHAT WE WANT 'EM TO DO.
I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT'S FINE.
SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE DATA.
THE LIST THEY GIVE US, THE COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION TO DECIDE RIGHT.
HAVE DISCRETION TO DECIDE AS TO WHO YOU WANT TO FUND AND WHO YOU DON'T WANT TO FUND.
I'M GOOD WITH THE, SO I THINK TONIGHT THAT SHOULD WORK.
BACK WHEN TOM WAS MAKING ALL THESE DECISIONS.
SO ARE WE GOOD WITH IT? ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD.
ARE WE GONNA VOTE ON TONIGHT? YES SIR.
ON ON WHICH, ON WHICH TONIGHT? JUST ON THIS, BUT POLICY, THE OTHER TWO WE'RE GONNA RIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE PURCHASE, UH, WHENEVER YOU HAVE AN EVENT THAT YOU WANNA GO TO THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA, YOU'RE SAYING, I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THIS EVENT.
LET'S SAY YOU WANNA PLAY GOLF OR YOU WANT TO ATTEND SOME EVENT AND BUY A TICKET OR A TABLE.
THIS IS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS ALREADY FUNDED.
THOSE HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
ALL YOU'RE GOING NEED TO DO IS THE CITY SECRETARY SAY, I WANT TO GO TO THE UNDER RUNUP BASKET LEAVING, UM, LUNCHEON AND I NEED, YOU KNOW, I NEED A TICKET FOR ME.
AND THEN CITY SECRETARY OFFICE WILL, WE'LL PROCESS THAT FOR YOU.
SO THAT PROCESS IS, SO WE CAN STILL DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A SPONSORSHIP, BUT IT'S JUST A TICKET.
AND THAT BUDGET WE GOT GO AHEAD COUNCIL.
HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A TABLE.
THE TABLE WOULDN'T BE IN THE NAME OF THE CITY.
WHAT ABOUT SPEEDING TICKETS?
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT GRANT POLICY.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA TALK ABOUT IS PROPOSING A GRANT POLICY.
THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS AND WE TALK ABOUT TICKETS, GRANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
GRANTS ARE WHEN YOU WANT TO GIVE MONEY TO SOMEBODY FOR A SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND.
SO THE STATE ATTORNEY DOES GET UP WITH ME IS WHEN WE PAY FOR THESE GRANTS, IT HAS TO BE A SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT NEEDS A MUNICIPAL PUBLIC PURPOSE.
MEANING THAT THE CI THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD DO IN THE COURSE OF BUSINESS.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SET AN, UH, A SPECIFIC AMOUNT ANNUALLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'VE DETERMINED ABOUT $50,000.
WE WOULD DO THAT POTENTIALLY WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE, AGAIN, SAME TIME PERIOD, NO LOAN APPLICATION PROCESS IN DECEMBER.
THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE WOULD BRING THAT SUMMARY TO CONSIDERATION TO THE COUNCIL IN JANUARY.
AND THEN THOSE, THOSE THAT WERE APPROVED,
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IT WOULD BE VETTED BY CITY STAFF.THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FORMAL PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO DO.
THOSE WOULD BE SIGNED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE CON WE'RE CONTRACTING THEM FOR SERVICES.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THEM PROVIDE CERTAIN METRICS.
I AM GOING UNDER MY UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING.
I'M GOING TO ASSIST AND HELP 20 RESIDENTS WITH THAT.
I'M USING UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONFUSION AS TO WHAT SERVICE WOULD PROVIDE HERE.
COULD YOU GIVE US A REAL EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE MAY BE DOING ALREADY THAT FALLS UNDER THAT CATEGORY? WE ACTUALLY DON'T DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE DO, WE DON'T DO THIS IN THIS PROCESS.
THIS IS REALLY PRETTY MUCH MIMICING, A LITTLE BIT OF C DG.
BILL AND, AND ESTHER CAN TALK ALL ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S SIMILAR, MORE SIMILAR TO THE CDG, BUT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT DO THIS.
SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE FOOD, THE GRAND PRIX UNITED CHARITIES GIVES OUT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO FEED THE HOMELESS, BUT WE DON'T.
NOW ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE NOT READY TO ANSWER A A, A PRIME EXAMPLE OF GRANT WOULD BE WHEN WE PAY FOR HOTEL ROOMS, WHEN THE INCLEMENT WEATHER GOES DOWN BELOW
MAKES IN ORDER FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS GRANT COMING UP ON IMPLEMENT WEATHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS GRANT POLICY COMES INTO PLAY.
SO, UM, FUNDING FOR ISAIAH HOUSE, WOULD THAT BE AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE? WE WOULD FALL UNDER THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE PROVIDING IT COULD FALL UNDER A GRANT.
ARE WE GONNA REQUIRE IT TO BE A BUSINESS ENTITY THAT'S NOT AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR? WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE A 5 0 1 C3.
AND WE ACTUALLY, THAT'S MY NEXT LINE.
THANK YOU FOR OH FIVE ONE THAT'S GONNA OFFER A SERVICE.
THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE A NON-PROFIT.
THEY, TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT KIND OF SERVICE.
TYPICALLY THEY WOULD BE AT, AND WE, WE PUT FIVE ONE C FOUR THERE BECAUSE THERE COULD POTENTIALLY SOMEBODY THERE.
BUT BASICALLY THEY HAVE TO BE A, NOT ONE, I'M GONNA CALL THE NONPROFIT.
THAT NONPROFIT IS PERFORMING THAT SERVICE.
THAT EXAMPLE THAT, THAT WE GAVE EARLIER IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE WITH, UM, THE HOTEL ROOMS. AND AGAIN, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE A RECIPIENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AT THE TIME.
UM, SO WOULD KIDS IN NEED OF CLOTHING, WHICH, UH, PROVIDE THE UNIFORMS FOR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT CAN'T AFFORD THOSE? THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE GRANT.
THAT COULD BE, IT'S NOT AN EVENT.
AS LONG AS IT'S, IT'S SUBMITTED BY NONPROFIT.
THAT HELPS ME FIGURE IT OUT TOO.
ALL OF ALL, BOTH OF THESE POLICIES ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT.
SO I MEAN THE, THE TRAVEL POLICY, IT'S DONE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, GRANT.
IT'S NOT LISTED ON THE ITEMS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SPONSORED ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S LISTED UNDER THE SPONSORSHIP, UNDER THE SPONSORSHIP REQUEST.
IT'S SO WE WOULD'VE TO WORDSMITH.
WE YOU WANT TO GET WITH MAYOR PROTE? YOU GET HIM THE WORDS.
AND THEN GOING BACK WITH TRAVEL POLICY, WHENEVER YOU BRING THAT BACK, ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUST THE BASICS, WHAT YOU DO WITH TRAVEL? WHAT WOULD BE BRINGING BACK TO YOU? MAYOR
AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE SHOWING YOU IS IF WE WOULD BE SHOWING YOU WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PAYING, WHAT WE ARE PAYING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAVEL, BUT WE WOULD ALSO BE ESTIMATING BASED UPON RECEIPTS, ET CETERA THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU.
WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE COUNCIL BUSINESS EXPENSE? LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONTHLY.
YEAH, THAT'S THE MONTHLY, WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? THE MONTHLY.
BUT THEN THE TRAVEL'S GONNA BE PART OF IT TOO.
THAT'S WHAT HIS SPECIFIC QUESTION.
WE'LL BRING BACK THE TRAVEL PER DIEM.
BUT THAT, THAT, UNLESS YOU TELL US NOT TO, BECAUSE THAT'S A CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PAY, YOU WANT TO HIRE PER DIEM AND PAY TAXES ON IT OR STAY WITH THE GSA.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS? AND CAN YOU OH, GO AHEAD.
IS THAT WHAT YOU YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
YOU'LL BRING US BOTH BACK CRITERIA.
AND CAN YOU VERIFY THAT OUR REIMBURSEMENTS ARE TAXABLE? YES, WE WILL DO THAT.
WHICH REIMBURSEMENT? OUR PER DIEM.
THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
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AS YOU STAY WITHIN THE GSA GUIDELINE.ONCE YOU GET HIRED, THEN GSA WHEN YOU TRAVEL BECOMES TAXABLE REIMBURSEMENT PER THE PER DIEM IS NOT TAXABLE.
I WILL BE FILE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE MONTHLY CHECK WE GET.
THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WHEN YOU TRAVEL ON BUSINESS, THE PER DIEM, THE PER DIEM IS JUST STRICTLY GSA AND IT'S NOT TAXABLE SAYING ANYTHING OVER THE A SAYING IS TAXABLE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT OUR AUDITOR'S TELLING US.
BUT IF YOU STAY WITH THE PER DIEM, IT'S NOT TAXABLE.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, IT'S NOT TAXABLE.
IF YOU SPEND OVER THE PER DIEM AND YOU TURN IN THE RECEIPT AND GIVE THE BUSINESS REASON, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS EXPLAINING ABOUT THE P CARD.
IT JUST CAN'T BE YOU AND, UH, JUNIOR GOING OUT TO EAT AT DEL FRISCO'S.
IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO BE YOU AND A STATE REP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SO AND THE REASON FOR IT.
JUST LIKE YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DO WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW.
BUT WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I BET THEY HAVE THE PER DIEM TOO.
I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE, I'LL BE THE SAINT HAMMOND BOLOGNA OR
I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION THERE AND I'M GONNA MAKE DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF.
YOU MAY GET ANOTHER ONE IF OKAY.
WHEN YOU BRING BACK THE TRAVEL POLICY, IF YOU'LL ALSO INCLUDE DETAILS AND GUIDELINES.
IF YOU HAVE A TRAVEL COMPANION WITH YOU WILL DO.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? DID Y THAT TRAVEL COMPANION, WILL THE TRAVEL COMPANION BE UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES? OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DEFINE.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I'M ASKING FOR TO FIND, SEE WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT ALLOW THE ONLY CITY, THE ONLY A COMPANION TO GO ON CITY EXPENSE.
MOST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY DO WE ALLOW.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ITEM FOUR.
ITEM FOUR IS THE, THE, THERE YOU HAVE JUST PASSED OUT TO YOUR SPONSORSHIP REQUEST.
FORM ONE IS FROM THE 100 MEN ENTERPRISES FOR $1,500.
ONE IS FROM THE PRG SERVICES, WHICH IS EXPANDED HORIZON, WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE IN THE PACKET LAST MEETING.
AND IT IS IN THE PACKET WITH THE RECOMMENDATION LETTERS FROM THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
AND THE LAST ONE IS FOR COMMUNITY STEP IN MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS EXPERIENCE, ALL HAVE BEEN VETTED AND QUALIFIED FOR YOUR FUNDING.
THE, THE BIG QUESTION I HAVE IS FIRST TIME WE EVER GIVE HER MONEY, GIVE HIS MONEY.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO OUT AND $15,000.
OH, I WOULD SAY, UM, LESS THAN $15,000.
HOW DID, HOW DID YOU VET THESE? WE WENT BACK AND WE WENT AND NUMBER THREE HAS A FIVE.
OH, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S ATTACHED TO YOU.
THEY ARE WENT WITH 5 0 9 8 2, WHICH IS, AS YOU GO DOWN IN THE LETTER AND YOUR EXEMPT FEDERAL INCOME TAX UNDER INTERNAL REVENUE CODE SECTION 5 0 1 C3.
SO THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER FALLS UNDER THE EXEMPT CODES OF 5 0 1 C3.
SEE, NOW THAT WE, UH, OPENED IT UP, WE'LL BE GETTING A LOT OF THESE.
AND UH, WE WILL, I REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DECIDED WE WERE NOT GOING TO, OR MAYBE IT WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, PROMOTE OR PUBLICIZE THIS.
SO IT IS ONE OF THOSE, IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DUNNO, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE PASSAGE OF THE, OF THE SPONSORSHIP, ET CETERA, POLICY ON TODAY.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IT ORIGINALLY SAYS FROM DECEMBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, WE WILL CONTACT EVERYONE WHO HAS RECEIVED FUNDING FROM US THIS YEAR.
AND THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATION.
AND WE'LL MAKE ALLOWANCE FOR THE TIME BETWEEN NOW BETWEEN THE 1ST OF DECEMBER AND NOW IN ORDER TO GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME INTO JANUARY, AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL.
WE WILL CONTACT ON ONE WEBSITE.
IT, IT DOES BECAUSE THIS AGENDA'S ON THE WEBSITE.
I HAVE A SUGGESTION IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE THAT
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YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ITEM NUMBER, THE THIRD ONE, WOULD THAT FALL UNDER THE GRANT CATEGORY THAT WE'RE THEY'RE NOT HAVING THAT.
WHICH IS THAT WOULD, YES, ACTUALLY IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE GRANT CATEGORY.
WHICH ONE IS, THAT'S NOT MY, THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
AS WE KNOW, WHETHER WE, UH, PUBLICIZE IT OR WHETHER THE WORD GETS OUT WHEN THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED, AND THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IN MY OPINION, THAT, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT AND TREAT IT LIKE THE CDBG MONEY.
AND WHEN LOOK AT WHAT THE BUDGET IS, LOOK AT THE APPLICANTS AND THEN DECIDE WHAT THEY GET.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, I THINK THE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF IT, AND IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY AND I THINK, I THINK WE ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE SPEND IT AND TO THE GROUPS WE GIVE IT TO.
AND HOW MUCH IS GIVE IT TO EACH ONE.
WHY WOULDN'T THESE, WHY WOULDN'T THESE FALL UNDER WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DECIDE ON INSTEAD OF TONIGHT.
WHY WOULDN'T THESE FALL INTO THAT GROUP? THE ONE FOR THE, THE COMMUNITY STEP IN ALL DOING WAS LAST WEEK.
SO THE, THE FIRST ONE IS FOR A, UM, UH, THIS, THIS ONE IS, IS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS JUST FOR AN EVENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, SO WE CAN'T WAIT.
AND THEN THIS ONE ALSO IS FOR, UM, LET'S SEE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 100 MEN INFERENCE? THE THE 100 MEN? MY UNDERSTANDING IS AN EVENT AT RIVERSIDE GOLF COURSE.
IT ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT UNTIL AUGUST 5TH, 24 NEXT YEAR.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE, WHY PUT NEXT YEAR PUT IT INTO THE GROUP? YOU'RE GONNA BRING US? WE COULD, BUT THE REQUEST WAS TO BRING IT TO I UNDERSTAND.
BUT WHATEVER EVERYBODY WANTS MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR, I WOULD PULL IT INTO THAT GROUP, THAT POT.
I WOULD THROW ALL THESE INTO THAT.
NOW THEY CAN ADD, UM, HANG ON.
IS IT OKAY TO THROW ALL OF THESE INTO THAT POT FOR NICK? EXCEPT ONE? WELL, YEAH.
OH, EXCEPT FOR ONE, THIS APPLICATION.
THE OTHER ONE'S GO INTO THE POT, SO THAT WAY, SEE, AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE LIST, 15,000 MAY BE OKAY, BUT THEN YOU SAY, WELL NO, I, I WE WON'T.
BUT I'M JUST, I'M USING THE POINT.
IT MAY SAY, BASED ON EVERYTHING ELSE, THIS ONE'S WORTH TWO.
YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE, THIS, I DON'T WANT A T-SHIRT.
I DON'T WANT PAY 15,000 FOR A T-SHIRT AND THE OPPORTUNITY 15.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING, WHEN WE EVALUATE THEM ALL WE CAN SAY THAT, THAT THAT'S YOUR EVALUATION CRITERIA.
CAN YOU ALL VET THESE BETTER BEFORE WE THEM? WELL, IT'S THE EVALUATED CRITERIA AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONES MAKING THE DECISION.
WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION.
WHAT WE VETTED THEM FOR IS FOR ELIGIBILITY, WHICH IS TOUGH.
SEE, UH, FOLKS, THIS IS SLIPPERY SLOPE.
GEORGIA CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
I THINK ONCE WE GET TO JANUARY CLOSE, THIS APPLICATION PROCESS IDEA TO HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT TO BUDGET FOR THE FUTURE, THINGS ARE ALL DOWN THE LIST.
AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE BASED ON THAT BUDGET, HOW YOU WANNA ALLOCATE TO I LIKE THAT IDEA.
TONIGHT WE'RE JUST, LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S JUST DO THAT ONE TONIGHT.
EVERYTHING ELSE WE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.
WHAT IS IT? WHICH ONE IS IT? IT'S, THEY WANT 90,000
WE'LL KICK THE REST OF 'EM DOWN THE ROAD.
AND I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, ON EXPANDED HORIZONS.
THEY SERVE AT CHARLIE TAYLOR REC CENTER AS WELL AS GO TO SOME OF OUR LOW INCOME APARTMENTS AND THEY BRING WITH THEM EXTRUDING MATERIALS.
AND SO YOU WOULD RECOMMEND, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT, AND APPARENTLY GRANDBURY PARKS ALSO RECOMMEND.
AND LET'S, LET'S GO WITH THAT ONE TONIGHT, WE'LL KICK THE OTHER ONES DOWN THE ROAD.
WELL, WE SEE IT DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL WE DO THE WHOLE THING.
DO WE GET A GOLF TEAM WITH THAT OR, UM, THIS ONE? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, WE READ THAT REAL QUICK.
UM, IS THAT THE ONE WE'RE PROVING TONIGHT? NO.
NO, THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, JUST SO I CAN, THEY DIDN'T SAY, I'M ASSUMING IT'S A TABLE THEY DIDN'T SAY.
SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT ITEM.
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SEE ON YOUR AGENDA REGARD 6 59 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, YOU'RE ONLY THINKING I LIKE MA'AM.WHAT ABOUT FOR WHERE WE MEET IN GENERAL? ARE WE DOING ANYTHING? IS THAT ON HERE? I DON'T SEE IT.
WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO NOT ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON THE, SO YES, I HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM NUMBER 50.
ESTHER, SINCE THAT WAS HUNDREDS OF PAGES, UH, ABOUT THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER.
CAN YOU PUT IN A NUTSHELL A SUMMARY? BECAUSE I CONFESSED I DID NOT READ ALL 200 PAGES.
UM, HEY, YOU LOOK CUTE TONIGHT WITHOUT THE, OH, I'M SORRY.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? YOU LOOK TONIGHT WITHOUT THE UM, YES MA'AM.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO UPDATE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES WITH CHANGES IN REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
OUR ADMIN PLAN SERVES AS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER THOSE DIFFERENT PRO UH, PROGRAMS. AND OUR NET OUR ADMIN POLICIES ARE THE ONLY POLICIES IN ADDITION TO OUR HOUSING REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN ENFORCE.
SO IF WE MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING OUR FAMILIES, IT MUST BE IN OUR ADMIN PLAN.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE INVOLVED AND WE CLEANED UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS NO LONGER FULFILL.
NOTHING, JUST CLEANING THINGS UP.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE TABLING A BUNCH.
ITEM 70, ITEM 72 HAS BEEN 72 OR 3 73.
THE EXECUTIVE WILL CALL OURSELVES INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5, 5, 1 SUB CHAPTER D OF GOVERNMENT CODE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE? JOHN, DO YOU HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO FOR ITEM 60 60? YES, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE SPONSORSHIP AND GRANTS POLICY THAT WE REVIEW BRIEFING, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, HONOR THE REQUEST FOR ONE, I MEAN, EXPEND HORIZON.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING, CORRECT? YES.
LET GET BACK, UH, TONIGHT WE'RE DOING TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
SECTION 5 5 1 1 0 7 2 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY.
ITEM THREE, SECTION 5 5, 1 0.074 PERSONNEL MATTERS, CITY ATTORNEY ITEM FOUR, SECTION 5 5 1 0.08787 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
WE'RE GOING INTO OUR LITTLE ROOM OFF THE, UH, BIAS.
THAT'S WHERE WE'LL EAT AND HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.