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WELL, MEETING[CC Briefings 10102023]
ORDER.AND THERE'S NO CLOCK ON THE WALL THAT I HAVE TO WATCH ON.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, DAN CLEMSON'S BEEN ADMITTED INTO THE HOSPITAL HAVING A ISSUE PLAYING.
HEY GUYS, I STARTED OVER HERE.
UH, Y'ALL COULD HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING.
UM, DAN'S BEEN ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL.
HE HAD ISSUE, UH, PLAYING GOLF THIS MORNING.
UH, PROBABLY MISSED A CLOSE, YOU KNOW, BUT HE'S, AS GOLFERS, WE CAN, WE CAN'T NOT SAY SOMETHING.
DAN HAS HAD ISSUES WITH HIS HEART BEFORE AND HAS HAD SOME, SO WE HOPE IT'S NOTHING SERIOUS, BUT THEY'LL NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
LET'S START WITH THE EDWARD VENUE REVIEW, AND I'D LIKE, UH, RAY TO INTRODUCE SOMEBODY FIRST.
YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNSEL, UH, RAY SERTA, PARKS ARTS AND, UH, RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SHE'S OUR NEW SPECIAL EVENTS MANAGER.
I'M ON THE, SHE HAS WORKED, UH, PREVIOUSLY FOR THE CITY OF CORINTH, UH, IN MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF EVENT EXPERIENCE.
SHE HAS DEGREES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND TEXAS TECH, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO WELCOME HER TO THE PARKS ARTS AND, UH, RECREATION SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM SPECIAL.
SO, UH, EMILY, WELCOME, WELCOME EVENTS, AND THEN I
AND THEN I HAVE, UH, KELLY ELMAN, WHO'S GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR LITTLE BROWN BAGS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, THERE ACTUALLY, I THINK IS SOME, SOME FOOD IN THERE.
NO, SO WE'VE GOT A BAG IN PLACE FOR PLACES THERE INSIDE, UH, WE HAVE A LITTLE GIFT FOR YOU ALONG WITH, UM, A, UH, A FAST PASS FOR PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
HARD TO BELIEVE WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT PRAIRIE LIGHTS, BUT, UH, SO YOU HAVE, JUST LIKE YOU HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU HAVE A, A LAMINATED FAST PASS.
YOU'LL HOLD ONTO THAT, BUT YOU CAN USE THAT ANY NIGHT IF THE FAST PASS IS OPEN AND THE DATES THAT IT'S AVAILABLE IS ON THE BACK OF THE CAR, UM, ON THE NIGHTS THAT IT'S CLOSED.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT AREA IS DARK AND THE GATE IS LOCKED.
UM, SO MAKE SURE YOU COME ON ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS.
YOU CAN COME ANYTIME BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT 30 AND GET RIGHT IN THAT LINE.
UH, REMEMBER, IF YOU DO COME TO THE FAST PASS, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET IN THE MAIN LINE FOR GENERAL ADMISSION.
YOU FOLLOW THE SIGNAGE TO GET IN THE RIGHT HAND LANE IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE NORTH TO BYPASS THAT LINE AND GO TO THE MARINA ENTRANCE.
UM, SO, UH, ON SOME OF THOSE BUSIER NIGHTS, I, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO END UP IN THE GENERAL ADMISSION LINE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FAST PASS, MY CONTACT INFORMATION AS WELL AS RAISED IS ON THE BACK.
FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US, UH, ANYTIME.
ALSO, YOU HAVE 10 GENERAL ADMISSION PASSES THAT ARE GOOD ANY NIGHT, UH, UH, OF THE EVENT.
THAT'S FOR THE GENERAL ADMISSION LINE.
UH, BUT FEEL FREE TO USE THOSE, HAND THOSE OUT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO DO.
UM, ALSO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE VIP MEDIA NIGHT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THURSDAY THE 16TH.
UH, YOU ALSO HAVE IN YOUR BAG, UH, A COPY OF THE INVITATION IN THERE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY THERE.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, FOOD AND, UH, LITTLE PRESENTATION AND, AND OF COURSE, YOU GET TO EXPERIENCE THE EVENT, SO BRING YOUR FAMILY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? OH, ONE OTHER THING, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, LAST, UH, COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, PRAIRIE ALLIANCE.
WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPON THAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE, UH, CREATED THE COUPON AND A PROCESS FOR THOSE, AND WE'VE CONTRIBUTED THOSE TO, UH, VARIOUS CITY FACILITIES, REC CENTERS, UH, THE LAKE PARK OFFICE, OUR, OUR LIBRARIES.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE PROMOTING THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO PICK THOSE UP.
UH, SO WE'VE GOT A COPY THOSE IN THESE PLACE AS WELL, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT ON THOSE AND TRY TO GET OUR RESIDENTS A $10 OFF DEAL.
ANY NIGHT WE, THAT Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY ALL THANKS.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE EPIC VENUE ANALYSIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
WE, UH, PROVIDED THIS, UH, PRESENTATION TO THE F AND G COMMITTEE ON THE OCTOBER 3RD, UH, FG COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE YOU TO
HE'LL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION.
MR. HILLS, UH, WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
IT WAS A RECORD BREAKING YEAR, AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS ISN'T AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF WHAT WE DID FOR PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
UH, IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE YEAR THIS YEAR, GUYS.
IN FACT, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE I GET
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TO THE NUMBERS EXACTLY, THIS TEAM RIGHT HERE.THIS TEAM IS MADE UP OF FOLKS THAT ARE FROM GRAND PRAIRIE THAT GREW UP HERE JUST LIKE ME, THAT STARTED AT THE BOTTOM SEASONAL PART-TIME, ENTRY LEVEL, AND HAVE ALL MADE IT TO, UH, THIS PROFESSIONAL STATUS.
AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE INVESTED IN THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITIZENS.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE TURNED THIS AROUND SINCE COVID, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS.
THESE ARE ALL THE, THE, UH, ANNOTATED AND RED.
YOU'LL NOTICE THE PREVIOUS, UH, RECORDS THAT WE HAD.
THESE NUMBERS WERE, UH, AS OF 10 31.
BUT WE HAD, UH, RECORD OVERALL REVENUE.
WE HAD RECORD OVERALL MEMBERSHIP, REVENUE, CAMP REVENUE, RENTAL REVENUE.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT TO YOU GUYS.
UH, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING TOWARDS JUST THE YEAR 24, THOUGH.
THIS IS, IS OUR FIFTH YEAR ANNIVERSARY THIS MONTH.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MONTH LONG CELEBRATION.
WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, AND MISS GEORGIA'S GONNA MISS IT FOR TODAY AT LEAST.
BUT WE'RE HAVING THE PICKLEBALL PARTY ON THURSDAY, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO LAY OUR STAKE IN THE GROUND AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE INCREASING OUR PICKLEBALL CLASSES PROGRAMS, UM, AS WELL AS OUR COURT HOURS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PICKLEBALL PASS THAT WE'RE GONNA SELL, UM, AND OFFER FOLKS, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AT THE EPIC JUST DURING PICKLEBALL COURT HOURS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET OUR REVENUES AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DECREASE EXPENDITURES.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, INTERNAL REVENUE SOURCES, SUCH AS WE HAVE CODE ENGINES.
YOU NORMALLY FIND THESE IN STRIP MALLS.
WE'VE GOT THEM COMING TO THE EPIC THIS MONTH.
WE'RE ALSO IN TALKS WITH CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
YOU NEED A LOCATION TO BE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR FACILITY, AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM THAT.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, UM, UTILIZE OUR VENUE.
UM, I AM PROUD TO SAY AFTER THE F AND G MEETING IN 2022, WE, UH, NOT ONLY MET, BUT SURPASSED, UH, INCREASING OUR MARKETING EFFORTS, FINDING ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE AND IMPROVED UPON OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WITH THAT, THOUGH, WE, WE HAVE A DECISION POINT THAT WE WANTED TO ASK COUNCIL.
WE ASKED THE, THE FG COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE EPIC PRIMARY IDENTITY? DO YOU WANT US TO BE A PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY FOR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENCE, OR DO YOU WANT US TO BE A RENTAL HUB AND COMMUNITY BASED IN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE BASED OFF THE, UH, F AND G COMMITTEE MEETING, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON OCTOBER 3RD IS THAT THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE THAT WE NEEDED TO BECOME THE PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY FOR C GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENTS.
THEY ALSO, UH, SAID THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW OUR FEED SCHEDULE FOR RESIDENTS, INDIVIDUALS, AND DUAL RIGHTS, AND ALSO ENHANCE OUR PICKLEBALL PROGRAMMING, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, THAT, UH, WE'LL BE, UH, DOING THAT ON THURSDAY, UH, FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM AND THEN TO INVESTIGATE, UH, ASANA WORKOUT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO SOME OF THESE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM THE, UH, FG COMMITTEE.
SO I'D JUST KIND OF LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL, UH, HOW WOULD Y'ALL LIKE US TO PROCEED? DO Y'ALL LIKE FOR US TO BE A PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY FOR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENCE? OR DO Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE IT TO BE A RENTAL HUB AND COMMUNITY BASED IN RETAIN MENU AHEAD, JOHN? YEAH.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER.
I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT HAS TO BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
I MEAN, TO BE THE PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY, I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE EPIC, I MEAN, THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THE WORKING OUT THERE.
THEY TALK ABOUT ALL THE PROGRAMMING, BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE STUDENT GROUP, BEING ABLE TO DO DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.
THE ART CLASSES THAT WE GOT GOING ON, THE ENGAGEMENT AT THE THEATER.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT'S RECOGNIZED IS IT'S AN OVERALL, I WISH YOU COULD COMBINE BOTH STATEMENTS OUT SOMEHOW.
I MEAN, WHEN I MENTIONED THE EPIC, YOU KNOW, CENTER AND I'M, AND I START TALKING ABOUT THE WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE LIKE, WE, WHERE'S THAT AT? AND I'M LIKE, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE THEATER? HAVE YOU BEEN? AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, OKAY.
YEAH, I SAW THE TRACK THAT I JUST WENT STRAIGHT TO THE THEATER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A TRACK AND BASKETBALL COURT.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THAT BECAUSE THEY DID.
THEY DON'T SEE THE REST OF THE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY ONLY SEE WHAT'S UP FRONT.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY SEE.
THEY GO TRADE A BOOK FOR THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY'RE SEEING.
THEY'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE, SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T CONNECT.
SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK IF IT'S A IDENTITY, I THINK IT HAS TO BE A COMBINATION BOTH.
AND I WOULD ALSO ADD AND COUNCIL MEMBER, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, TO PIGGYBACK ON THE FACT THAT IT IS BOTH AND WHY WOULD YOU GIVE UP RENTAL REVENUE? BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR REVENUE RENTAL AND YOUR COMMUNITY BASED ENTERTAINMENT.
SO DON'T LOSE THAT REVENUE SOURCE.
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THEM BE BOTH COUNCIL.AND I WOULD ADD THAT THE FITNESS IS GRAND PRAIRIE SPECIFIC.
OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF METROPLEX, THEY HAVE THEIR GYMS, THEIR REC CENTERS, WHEREAS THE RENTAL ENTERTAINMENT THAT'S DRAWING AN AUDIENCE FROM ACROSS THE METROPLEX.
AND I THINK THAT HAS GREATER REVENUE POTENTIAL THAN JUST THE STUFF THAT FOCUSES ON GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND I WOULD EVEN JUST, INSTEAD OF SAYING COMMUNITY BASED ENTERTAINMENT, JUST SAY ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY PAY IN ARLINGTON FOR THEIR KIDS TO DO THE ART PROGRAMMING AND SOMEONE MAY PAY, YOU KNOW, FROM PLANO FOR A CONCERT.
SO I THINK AS FAR AS LIKE THE TOP FIVE DESTINATION AND DFW, YOU KNOW, MAKING GRAND PRAIRIE, THAT THE SECOND OPTION REALLY HONES IN ON THAT.
AND I THINK THE FIRST IS TOO SPECIFIC.
SO DION SANDERS IS IN THE BIG NEWS TODAY AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
ONE OF HIS FAVORITE COMMERCIALS EVER SAW WAS BOTH, BOTH, YOU KNOW, IT, ALL OF HIS FOOTBALL FANS KNOW WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT? BOTH.
NOW I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE THING THAT F AND G CAME UP WITH.
THAT WAS THE VISION WE ALL HAD WAS THE PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY, BUT WE DID SO MUCH MORE WITH IT.
WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS.
SO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS SAYING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER Z.
YEAH, JUST GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT FG, WE CAN DO BOTH WALK AND CHEW GUM, BUT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE, UH, NOT LOSING SIGHT ON THE FACT THAT IT IS A PREMIER FITNESS FACILITY.
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BUILT FOR, THAT I GO TO.
AND I, AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT GO TO PLAY BASKETBALL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE MOVING SO MUCH TO RENTAL, I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO PLAY BALL ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
BECAUSE THAT RENTAL, THAT BASKETBALL COURT, SO FOR THOSE MEMBERS, THEY LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT IF WE'RE PUSHING.
I CAN SEE WHY Y'ALL SAID THAT NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA OVER RENTAL BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE BEEN BUILT IT OR WE BUILT IT FOR IT.
OUR CITIZENS, WHEN GIVEN THE OPTION OF EITHER OR BEING A PREMIER PIP FACILITY, WILL THEN PROVIDE THE RENTAL AND UH, ENTERTAINMENT VALUE.
SO THAT'S WHEN, WHEN, GIVEN THOSE OPTIONS, RIGHT, WE, WE CHOSE ONE AND, AND OBVIOUSLY NOT TIED TO ANY OF 'EM.
AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, I, I UNDERSTAND WHEN GIVEN THOSE TWO OPTIONS, LIKE VOTING TODAY, YOU DON'T GET TO DO A ONE A.
YOU EITHER VOTE YES OR NO ON ONE.
AND UH, BUT OUR CHALLENGE TO THEM WAS TO, I MEAN, I WISH I HAD A LOT OF OPTIONS, BUT NEVERMIND, OUR CHALLENGE TO THAT STAFF WAS, UH, USE THE KITCHEN, USE THE CROTONS, USE THE THEATER, THOSE THINGS.
THE, THE PREMIER FIT FITNESS FACILITY IS HAPPENING AND, AND THEY'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB.
AND SO, UM, NOW IT'S TIME TO EXPAND INTO WHAT EPIC IS.
WELL, I WAS UP THERE THE OTHER DAY, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE EVENT WAS, BUT I GET IT.
I DON'T WANT WRESTLING THERE EVERY SATURDAY WHEN THOSE BOYS CAN'T PLAY BASKETBALL.
I WAS UP THERE AND WE WERE USING THE OTHER COURT, WHICH WAS THE SAL COURT, WHICH NONE, NONE OF US EVER FIGURED OUT HOW TO PLAY THAT ANYWAY.
BUT THE BASKETBALL COURT WAS OPEN FOR FREE PLAY AND IT WAS PACKED.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON STAFF TO DO THEIR PROPER MIX TO WHERE WE'RE NOT OVERDOING ONE OVER THE OTHER, ESPECIALLY RUNNING KIDS OFF OF THE BASKETBALL COURT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE BECAUSE WE DO WANT IT TO BE WHERE OUR KIDS CAN GO PLAY.
AND EVEN THAT I GET WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ALSO.
AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT WHENEVER WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS COMMUNITY INPUT, COMMUNITY INPUT, DIDN'T JUST SAY OFFENDER CENTER.
THEY WANT IT ALL INCLUSIVE AND EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.
THAT'S, THAT WAS DRIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE JUST GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
I WANT TO ADD, I I LIKE THE BOOKS THAT, THAT YOU SAID.
UM, AND WHEN I WAS THINKING RENTALS AND ENTERTAINMENT, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT BLOCKING OFF THE BASKETBALL COURT.
SO I GUESS THAT'S DIFFERENT TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE CERTAIN AREAS OF THE BUILDING WE DO THAT AREN'T EVEN FOR SPORTS USE.
SO I WAS THINKING MORE OF THAT.
OH, THE THEATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN THE, UH, WAREHOUSE, WHATEVER THAT WAREHOUSE, WHAT DO WE CALL THAT NOW? IT'S THE WAREHOUSE.
SO MAYBE WE TO, I THINK, UM, COUNCILMAN ANI MADE A POINT, MADE ME THINK ABOUT SOME POLICY FOR THE SPORT AND THOSE AREAS LIMITING HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK OR MONTH THAT THAT CAN BE RENTED OUT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN SOME TYPE OF POLICY.
BUT I THINK THE ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT OF IT IS MORE DFW FOCUSED, NOT NECESSARILY JUST OUR CITIZENS, BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME FROM OUT OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THESE CONCERTS, BUT I, I DO THINK YEAH.
POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET ON THE COURTS THAT THOSE AREN'T
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OVER RENTED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MEMBERSHIPS.I THINK WE JUST DELIVERED THE STAFF.
UH, STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
SO THEY, THEY KNOW OUR DESIRES TO KNOW WHERE F AND G WAS COMING FROM, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE KIDS.
LET THEM JUST GO AHEAD AND MANAGE WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO RENT AND WIN FOR HOW LONG SO WE CAN MINIMIZE IT.
'CAUSE UH, WE JUST HAD A REPORT EARLIER TODAY WITH FF AND G RAY, HIS STAFF JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU GUYS.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
YOU REALLY ARE REALLY MAKING SOME HUGE CHANGES.
AND I BELIEVE WITH, WITH RAY LEADERSHIP, THEY WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND BALANCE OFF WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE IVAN ERICS COMING OUT ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
DID Y'ALL WATCH THAT LAST NIGHT? NO, I WANTED TO.
OH, I, I'M SO, SUCH A TRAGEDY FOR THAT FAMILY COUNCIL.
S AND JUST TO, JUST TO GET BACK AGAIN ON WHAT WAS SAID, I DO AGREE WITH THE VOTE, BUT I JUST SPOKE WITH SOMEONE FROM ENCORE TODAY.
SO WE'RE GETTING ATTENTION, ATTENTION FROM OUTSIDE OF BRENT PRAIRIE AS WELL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT OPPORTUNITY ALONG WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SURE.
MEGAN, YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I KNOW YOU WANNA SAY.
OH, I JUST, I THINK Y'ALL HIT, Y'ALL HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
I THINK THAT STAFF IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB BALANCING BOTH TRYING TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE WHILE NOT SACRIFICING CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.
SO BASED ON Y'ALL'S DIRECTION, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT SAME PATH AND UM, WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO Y'ALL FOR MORE FEEDBACK IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
BUT I JUST CAN GOOD JOB TO THE FIRST STAFF.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN COMBINE THE SUMMIT AND THE EPIC TOGETHER TO BRING THE SUMMIT OVER? THEY CAN LOOK INTO IT.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE RETAIL AND THE SUMMIT BUILDING'S PRIMED FOR MORE RETAIL.
IF WE'RE, OR VISITORS, WE WOULD NEED TO, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WE WOULD NEED TO RELOCATE SUMMIT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S SPACE TO DO IT IN RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER.
THE, YOU REMEMBER RUTHIE JACKSON CENTER, THERE'S, THERE'S OPTIONS.
UM, BUT THERE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AMONGST STAFF BECAUSE WE, AND THEY KNEW THAT THAT IS GONNA BE A PRIME LOCATION AND WE ALSO DO NOT THINK THAT AGE GROUP WOULD WANT TO BE THEN WITH THE EPIC.
THEY WOULD WANT THEIR OWN FACILITY.
THEY WOULD FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD FEEL LIKE.
'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN AT BOTH PLACES.
WELL HOW ABOUT THE OLD COAL BUILDER? NOT, HERE'S THE POINT.
WE AGREE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE IT.
WE DON'T NEED TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW WHERE NO, JUST THE THOUGHT.
AND WE WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, I'LL SAVE MY THOUGHTS TO WHAT TO DO WITH THE KOHL'S BUILDING.
BOY, IT WOULD TAKE A MAJOR RETROFIT, BUT LET'S JUST WAIT.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
UH, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE LOSE AND FINALLY GET SOMETHING ON THAT HARD CORNER, THEN WE'RE OUTTA SPACE.
WE STILL HAVE A SPACE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WON'T AFTER WE LOSE THAT HARD CORNER.
AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING AT THAT HARD, SAY THAT FIVE TIMES THAT THAT HARD CORNER THAT WE WANT UNTIL EVERYTHING'S UP AND RUNNING, BEING BASS PRO ANDRETTI'S BIG SHOTS OR TOP GOLF.
AND THEN THEY SEE SOME NUMBERS.
UH, AND SO IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT THEN WE COULD START DOING SOME LONG RANGE PLANNING AND THAT WOULD NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE PENNY TO DO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR A BOND PACKAGE.
AND UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN YES, SIR.
AND ALSO, JUST TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, IS THAT IN 2026, OUR PARK MASTER PLAN IS DUE.
SO WE'LL BE STARTING THAT PROCESS HERE PROBABLY NEXT YEAR PRETTY QUICK.
AND SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL ARE ASKING WILL BE ALL IDENTIFIED, WHICH MAY COINCIDE WHEN WE GIVE UP THAT HARD CORNER WOULD WANT TO, UH, BUILD A NEW SUMMIT.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO, I DON'T WANT TO, WE'LL GET CALLS TOMORROW.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY AT THE SUMMIT KNOWS THAT WE AREN'T, UM, GOING TO MERGE THEM WITH SOMEBODY.
THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN FACILITY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE.
WAS SOME OF THE OH EIGHT BOND, OH 7 0 8 BOND OR IT OPEN? IT WAS FROM A BOND.
WHAT DO WHAT? THE SUMMIT WAS SALES TAX.
SO IT WASN'T BOND, IT WAS SALES.
WE TOOK THAT EIGHTH CENT AND THE EIGHTH CENT.
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TO BUILD NPSB.WE TOOK THE EIGHTH CENT SUMMIT AND THE EIGHTH CENT BASEBALL THAT PAID OFF AT THE SAME DIME, COMBINED THAT FOR A QUARTER CENT TO DO THE, THE EPIC, EPIC WATERS AND PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO CAPACITY IN THE PENNY, BUT WE HAVE BONDING CAPACITY AND I THINK FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE BONDING CAPACITY ON OTHER THINGS, WE OUGHT TO DEFER TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I DON'T WANNA GET PEOPLE NERVOUS OR DREAMING.
LET'S JUST, THESE ARE ALL GOOD THOUGHTS.
IS, IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? YES.
WE KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT TO BUILD.
YOU A QUESTION, SIR? YEAH, THANK YOU.
CALL CALL RAY ABOUT THE SUMMIT FOLKS.
I AM NOT GOING TO THE SUMMIT TOMORROW.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MOVE IT TOMORROW,
I DON'T, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS, IT'D BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE MAKING AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CAROL DE RISE AND CLARK.
CLARK DAVIS TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.
I INTRODUCE CAROLYN CLARK TO BRING THIS TO YOU AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I WAS GONNA INTRODUCE YOU TO CLARK, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
HE'S GONNA BRING THROUGH THIS, LIKE BILL SAID, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY AWARE OF THIS, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO START IT.
SO HE WANTS TO BRING UP WITH SPEED ON PLEASE.
THIS IS THE CO PARK FENCE FROM DICKEY ROAD TO CHEROKEE TRACE.
MR. HILLS, YOUR HONOR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHOW YOU THIS.
UH, THIS IS A LONG TIME PROJECT.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED, SO WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THE RENDERING DRAWINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
UM, THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD.
WE'RE GONNA START CONSTRUCTION IN JANUARY, AND COMPLETION SHOULD BE AROUND SPRING OF 2024.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THAT YOU CAN SEE SOME PLACES HAVE GATE, UH, GARAGES.
EACH GARAGE WILL HAVE A GATE THERE SO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO OR KNOW ABOUT INDIAN HILLS AND THE STREET IS SHAWNEE.
I I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I BROUGHT UP.
WELL, Y'ALL GUYS SHOWED THIS BEFORE AND THANK YOU.
IT SEEMED A LITTLE CONFUSING AND UH, AND I JUST WONDER IF YOU HAD AN EXPLANATION.
SO IT SEEMED MIKE SAID COOL AS I DID, AND THEN I STARTED LOOKING CLOSER AND I THOUGHT THE GATE REALLY SERVES NO PURPOSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EGRESS AND INGRESS.
THERE IS NO, THAT'S CORRECT COUNSEL.
BUT HOWEVER, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE, WE WERE THINKING AS A STAFF THAT PEOPLE HAVE GARAGE OPENING AND WE DIDN'T, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAVE NO INDIRECT OR AFTER BREAK BECAUSE THERE'S NO DRIVEWAYS ON ANY OF THIS, WE STILL WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE GARAGE TO THE BACK.
IF THEY'VE GOT IT, THEY GET IT.
AND THAT'S TRICKY BECAUSE THAT DIRT ROAD, THEY'RE ACCESSING BY THE DIRT ROAD.
NOW GATE, WE NOT KIND OF INCENTIVIZE THE IDEA OF DRIVING ON THE SIDEWALK.
CAN WE PUT BOLLARDS ON THE SIDEWALK SO THEY DON'T DRIVE THE CARS DOWN THE SIDEWALK? I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT, BUT OKAY.
WE DON'T GO, WE ARE GOING TO REINFORCE WITH THE STAFF WHEN WE DO THE SIDEWALK, WE ARE GONNA REINFORCE THE SIDEWALK JUST IN CASE.
JUST IN CASE THE WELL MAYOR TIM LOPEZ.
SO WITH THE LATCH OPEN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OR JUST ON THE HUNDRED SIDE? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
THINK IT'S JUST A RENDERING WE'LL,
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WE'LL WORK WITH THIS.YEAH, BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS IF SOMEONE COULD JUST OPEN IT UP, BUT YEAH.
THAT, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT I WOULD THINK THE HOMEOWNER OUGHT TO HAVE THE RIGHTS TO LOCK IT FROM THE INSIDE LOCK.
MY QUESTION IS, WHY DON'T WE JUST CONVERT THIS TO A DRIVEWAY FOR THEM THAT HAS A SIDEWALK THERE, THERE IS NO DRIVEWAY ON.
THERE'S ONLY ONE APPROACH ON THIS WHOLE, THERE WOULD BE MANY YOU MAKE WITH THE, NOT ONLY IS IT COSTLY, IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER IN TRAFFIC WITH THE TRAFFIC, THE SPEEDS AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU HAVE ON CARRIER.
THAT WOULD CREATE A, DEFINITELY CREATE A HAZARD.
BUT THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PARK.
BUT THEY HAD, FRANKLY THEY'RE NOT USING DRIVE BY TONIGHT.
NO ONE'S PARKING IN THEIR, THEIR STORAGE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT WORKING ON 'EM.
HUSBAND AND WIFE WERE OUT WITH THEIR CHILD IN THE DEAL.
THEY WERE JUST DOING SOME WORK IN THE GARAGE.
THERE WASN'T, HAVEN'T BEEN A CAR IN THERE IN Y YEARS.
AND WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE THIS TO THEM.
SO WE DO, DO YOU, CAN SOMEONE TALK TO THE RESIDENTS AND SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY USED THAT GATE GOING IN AND OUT? UM, NO SIR.
WE, WE BASICALLY DETERMINED THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OPENING THERE.
THEY HAVE A GARAGE THERE AND WE WAS GONNA GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THEIR GARAGE OR OPEN.
SOME OF 'EM DON'T EVEN HAVE GARAGES, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT A GATE UP.
THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE GARAGE.
AN OLDER PROJECT AND DOES KNOW SOME OF THE HISTORY.
BUT ALL WE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS A LOT.
WE HAVE HAD A LOT COMMUNICATION.
QUITE FRANKLY, MOST, MOST OF THESE HOMES ARE RENTAL HOMES.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF IN FLUX THERE.
BUT ONE, THE GARAGES REALLY ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED AT ALL.
BUT WE WERE, SO WE REALLY DID HAVE AN OPTION OF JUST FENCING THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE REALLY FELT THAT THAT WAS UNFAIR GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY DID HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
MOLLY, IF THE HINDSIGHT WE LET'S BLAME PAST COUNSEL, THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET A GARAGE BE BUILT THERE FACING CARRIER.
NOW WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO A EYESORE AND IF THEY GIVE THEM ACCESS AND IF THEY WANT TO FILE, TRY TO GET AN INGRESS EGRESS ON TO AND FROM THEIR PROPERTY TO CARRIER, THEY CAN DO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND THEY WILL, NOT SAYING IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY.
SO THEY HAVE, YEAH, YOU CAN, ARE WE GONNA GO TOMORROW? THEY'LL COME THE DIRT ROAD.
MIKE, COUNCIL MEMBER S ARE WE GONNA GO DOWN THERE AND CLEAN UP ALL THE OVERGROWN TREES THERE? BECAUSE I PUT IN THAT REQUEST LAST YEAR.
THIS WILL WE SIR, WE DO THAT BEFORE WE STORM COUNCIL MEMBER S THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T GO IN THERE AND CLEAN ALL THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN A WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE IT, WE'D HAVE HAD TO DO IT TWICE.
THE LAST LAST LINE RIGHT HERE.
IT SHOWS THE PROPOSED WHAT'S THERE NOW.
THE ONLY LAST QUESTION ON THE GARAGES GATE.
UM, WHAT IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENS AND SOMEONE BACKS INTO IT, BUT WOULD IT BE ON NO ONE REPORTS IT, WOULD IT BE THE CITY OUR FENCE? WE WILL WE REPAIR? YES.
AND THEN HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TYPE OF FENCE MATERIAL LAST? ARE WE HAVING TO REPLACE IT EVERY FIVE TO 10 YEARS OR, ACTUALLY IT WAS REALLY PRETTY STARTED BECAUSE I, I KNOW WE HAVE AROUND THE CEMETERY, UH, RIGHT DOWN CONCRETE.
JUST WHAT NEARLY ALL THES ARE GOING TO NOW INSTEAD OF THE OLD WOOD.
THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR FINES OVER TIME.
AND THEY'RE GOING WITH THIS, WHICH LAST TWO YEARS, SEVEN YEARS.
IS IT CEMETERY OFF THIRD STREET? IS THAT THE ONE THAT HAD A CAR? AND THAT'S THE REASON.
I'M JUST TRYING TO YEAH, IT ALL BACKS UP TO TOO CLOSELY.
OR MAYOR PUT, THE REASON THAT WE USE THAT CAST CONCRETE AND THE CEMETERY OFF OF THIRD STREET IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.
WE CAN MAKE THAT REPAIR VERY QUICKLY.
IF YOU NOTICE THAT WRECK WAS LAST, EARLY LAST WEEK.
THAT REPAIR WAS MADE BEFORE THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SLOT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL, ALL IT IS.
SO IT WORKS OUT VERY WELL FOR ANY NEW MEMBERS OF THE OLD MEMBERS THAT ARE FORGOT.
UH, PIGS TAKE CARE OF THESE IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.
HOWEVER, WE DECIDED YEARS AGO, THE CARRIER WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN BOULEVARDS THAT IS AN EYESORE.
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DECISION AND GAVE STAFF THE DIRECTION TO START PLANNING FOR AND REPLACING IT.AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME OF IT ON CARRIER, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER PART.
WE DID IT ON WARRIOR GOING TO PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT ON THOSE HIGHLY VISIBLE AREAS IN OUR CITY AND ESPECIALLY IN THAT'S A SWEET, UH, AREA IN THERE.
UH, THERE'S STILL SOME HOMEOWNERS IN THERE.
WE DROVE IN THERE THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE REBECCA GREW UP ON FIFTH STREET.
THERE, THERE IT'S A SWEET NEIGHBORHOOD.
A LOT OF IT HAS STAYED VERY NICE.
AND THIS JUST WILL GIVE THEM AN UPGRADE AND GIVE US AN UPGRADE ON DRIVING THROUGH OUR CARRIER BECAUSE WE HAVE A POST OFFICE AND, AND THE LITTLE HOSPITAL ACROSS THE STREET DOWN THERE.
CARLISLE, EAST SMITH HOSPITAL, E CARLOS SMITH.
ANY OTHER SLIDES? THOSE ALL OF THOSE, SIR.
YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB ON POTHOLES.
WE'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME OF THESE EVERY MONTH.
AND IF YOU RECALL, UH, BILL, WE GAVE HIM DIRECTION LAST MEETING.
WE GAVE HIM DIRECTION 'CAUSE WE WERE TIRED OF GOING OVER 'EM ONE BY ONE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER, COME UP WITH RULES, HOW TO APPLY PART.
I PROPOSE THAT THIS ONE, ANY, ANY MORE WE GET BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN HE COMES UP WITH THAT, GET PUT INTO THAT GROUP AND WE TAKE 'EM ALL AT ONCE.
HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO HAVE THAT TO US IN DECEMBER.
WE HOPE TO HAVE IT DECEMBER, IF NOT THE SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH.
I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU HAVE IT THE SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH, YOU CERTAINLY WON'T HAVE IT IN DECEMBER.
WELL, MAYOR, I PROPOSE TO MAKE PEG ACTION ON THIS ONE.
I'M GONNA PROPOSE WE TABLE IT TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I, THERE'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING URGENT AND I JUST NEVER HEARD OF THIS.
REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE AND I KNOW SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES, ONE OF 'EM USED TO WORK FOR ME.
IT IS NOT WHETHER I KNOW 'EM OR DON'T.
IT'S JUST HE JUST CAME UP WITH THIS NEW IDEA FOR ALL OF US TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME RELIEF ON GETTING INUNDATED WITH I GET CALLED.
SO I, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IN THE PAST, BUT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE TABLE IT TONIGHT.
HOW ABOUT THE MARINA? NOW IT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT OUT THERE ON HERE.
WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT ACTION UP OUT THERE.
UH, WHAT'S, CAN WE DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE BRIEFLY? IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE, THIS PARTNERSHIP.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S NOT AN ELIGIBLE ITEM.
TALK TO US ABOUT WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE CLOSING.
MARINA, UH, MAYOR COUNSEL, THE, UH, MARINA RESTAURANT HAS COME IN AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CLO THEY'RE CLOSING THE FIRST NOVEMBER.
ACTUALLY, THEY, WE, WE TOLD 'EM THEY COULDN'T CLOSE TILL AFTER THIS MEETING WAS HELD TO BASICALLY LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THEY'RE CLOSING.
NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE CLOSING THE, THE REASON THEY'RE CLOSING AND THE REASON THEY'RE CLOSING MAKES SENSE THEY'RE CLOSING BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DO A COMPLETE, COMPLETE RENOVATION OF IT.
AND THEIR VIEW LOOKING AT BRINGING IN A DIFFERENT OPERATOR AT SOME POINT IN TIME FOR THIS BEING THE SLOWEST TIME OF YEAR, THERE'S VERY RARE, THERE'S VERY LITTLE USE OF THE RESTAURANT THIS TIME OF YEAR.
SO TO REMODEL IT AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR THEM TO DO IT.
SO THEY'LL BE CLOSED FROM NOW UNTIL FEBRUARY, ISN'T IT? TILL FEBRUARY.
AND THEY'RE GONNA REMODEL THEN THEY'LL REMODEL AND REOPEN.
WHAT ABOUT THEIR QUALITY OF FOOD AND PRICES? ARE THEY GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? YES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT UPGRADING THAT, UH, EITHER TO, YOU MEAN THEY UPGRADE THE PRICE? THEY'RE LOOKING AT UPGRADING THE, THEY UPGRADE THE FOOD.
THEY MAY, DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON IF THEY CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITH THE SAME OPERATOR OR GET A NEW OPERATOR.
SO DOES IT NEED ACTION OR IS THIS JUST NO, THIS IS JUST THE INFORMATION, JUST THE DISCUSSION.
WE, WE DON'T, WE JUST, SO I, SO THE LEASE IS SET UP THAT WE OWN THE LAND, BUT THEY LEASE FROM THE GROUND UP.
BASICALLY ACTUALLY IT'S FLOATING ON THE WATER, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER.
THE BOTTOM LINE QUESTION IS DO THEY HAVE TO ASK US TO CLOSE?
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WELL, IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T DURING THIS TIME PERIOD.THEY, THEY DO THE CONTRACT ITSELF.
SO Y'ALL CAN, Y'ALL CAN PROBABLY VOTE ON IT.
WOULDN'T YOU SUGGEST THEY VOTE ON IT IF IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM AND IT, IT'S A AGENDA ITEM SO YOU COULD VOTE ON THEM AND TELL 'EM NOT TO VOTE.
WE'RE NOT MAKING, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY FOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REVENUE COMING IN.
THEY DON'T HAVE VERY MANY PEOPLE COMING IN THERE.
WHAT WE GET IS FOUR 5% OF GROSS.
SO IF THEY'RE DOING 10,000, I MEAN YOU CAN DO THE MATH, WE'RE GONNA LOSE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'D RATHER IT CLOSE AND MAYBE MAKE MORE LATER.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THEY OFFER THIS, DID THEY OPEN UP THE WINDOW TO GET OUR COMMENTS AND OUR FEEDBACK TO HELP WITH THEIR VISION? UH, OR DID THEY JUST SAY WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE.
WE, THEY WE'LL TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THIS ABOUT THE THIRD DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
THEY ASKED TO CLOSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BASICALLY.
ARE THEY GONNA CHANGE THE NAME FROM THE THAT'S A, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE, AND THERE WAS A MOVIE CALLED I LIKE THAT THE OASIS.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON IT TONIGHT.
YOU CERTAINLY, AFTER THIS REMODEL AND WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO AND IT STILL FAIL, DO WE HAVE IN THE LEASE THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS BACK OR THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THE LEASE FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS MAKE THIS THEIR PAYMENTS.
IT'S NOT EVEN A, IT'S BASICALLY THEY COULD TAKE THE WHOLE ARENA AWAY, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE IT OVER AS LONG AS THERE'S NO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LEASE.
QUESTION AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THEIR CLOSING AND THEN WHAT WE WILL DO AS WE'LL, WORK WITH THEM AND WE'LL MEET WITH THEM.
WE'LL MEET WITH THEM, WE'LL MEET WITH THEM DURING THE PROCESS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND IF WE FEEL APPROPRIATE, WE'LL BRING IT TO COUNCIL AS A PRESENTATION TO YOU AFTER WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU SAID THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN A DIFFERENT OPERATOR.
IF THEY BRING, THEY'RE SAYING POSSIBLE THAT THEY BRING IN A DIFFERENT OPERATOR.
IF THEY BRING IN A DIFFERENT OPERATOR AND LET'S REMEMBER I WOULD BRING THEM, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BRING IN A DIFFERENT OPERATOR.
RIGHT NOW THEY OWN A LOT OF MARINAS.
MILDRED USED TO SAY THEY ONLY MADE MONEY BEFORE MINUTES IN THE SUMMER.
THIS WILL GIVE THEM A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE GOOD MONEY THIS SUMMER.
SO THEY'RE GONNA JUST SAY THEY CLOSED TODAY AND THEY'RE GONNA OPEN BACK UP IN FEBRUARY.
FEBRUARY WHAT DATE? UM, IT SAYS 20.
DO WE NEED THOSE DATES FOR THE MOTION? IF, IF PROPOSED CLOSURE.
BECAUSE NOW, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL S WHAT THEY I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO ASK THEY US A DATE.
UM, WE'RE GOING OVER ITEM SIX THROUGH 37 IF ANY ITEMS STANDS OUT.
ANYTHING I LIKE STRIKE NUMBER 25.
WHEN YOU SAY STRIKE, YOU MEAN PULL UP, PULL IT OFF.
GO TO WHO'S UP FOR THAT? WHO'S ON, WHO'S ON ON THERE? THAT PART 25.
I THINK IT'S MS. ADAMS BEING REPLACING, UM, COPELAND.
ON THE HOTEL ABOUT CORPORATION.
SO MR. PUT HER TO REPLACE COUNCIL COPELAND? CORRECT.
BUT YOU WANT IT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, ITEM 21, UH, WHO IS, UH, OR WHY ARE WE ONLY LEASING THIS AN ANNUAL RENT OF 27 84 FOR A HANGER THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD RENT A LOT MORE FOR THE HANGER.
THIS IS A, A COMMERCIAL LEASE AND A T HANGER.
AND THOSE ARE ALL BASED OFF OUR FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S APPROVED DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.
SO IT'S A STANDARD MONTHLY AMOUNT? MONTHLY IT SAYS ANNUAL.
WELL THAT'S WHAT IT IS OVER 12 MONTHS.
IT'S ALREADY, WELL, OKAY, NOW WHAT, 27 84
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PER MONTH FOR ONE YEAR? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT YEAR'S.SO MY, OKAY, SO LET'S GO BACK TO MY, THAT'S 200.
WELL OUR, OUR T HANGERS RANGE FROM $200 A MONTH UP TO OVER 600.
DEPENDS, THE T HANGERS ARE IN CLOSE FOUR SOUTH, FIVE SOUTH, SIX SOUTH AND THREE NORTH AND FOUR NORTH ARE PAC IN 1970, THERE ARE OLDEST HANGERS AND HAVE THE LEAST AMENITIES.
THEY, THEY ARE JUST THEIR OLD STYLE DOORS THOUGH.
AND THEY LET A LOT OF WEATHER IN.
AND THIS IS THE FET STRUCTURE.
YOU CHARGE EVERYBODY ELSE OUT THERE WITH THE TEETH? WE DO A, A, A MARKET SURVEY OF ALL OUR COMPETITIVE AIRPORTS IN EVERY YEAR.
MAYOR PRO TIM, I HAVE A, I'M JUST GONNA COMMENT ON ITEM 35.
I THINK TODAY F AND G, WE, WE DECIDE TO, UH, APPROVE IT AND AUTHORIZE THEM TO CITY MANAGER TO, UM, ENTRANCE THAT CONTRACT.
HOWEVER, UH, WE, I'M GONNA SAY PRESSED THE ARTS COUNCIL TO, UM, EXPAND UPON THEIR ARTS INSTEAD OF, UH, THEIR PRIMARY DOES THEATRICAL ARTS AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
UM, AND THEY, THEY HAVE EXPANDED ON SOME OF THAT, BUT WE KIND OF CHALLENGE THEM.
UM, NOT ONLY EXPAND, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE ASHEVILLE ARTS, BUT ALSO TO EXPAND TO THE EPIC AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE USE OF THAT THEATER AND GET BRINGING PEOPLE OUT THERE.
UM, THEY, THEY SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE, UM, ON BOARD WITH, UM, THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T CHANGE THEIR 24 DATES, WHICH IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING, BUT THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA WORK WITH US, UM, ON THE OPEN DATES.
YEAH, WELL FOR 2020 AND GOING FORWARD TO BE AN AR MORE OF AN ARTS COUNCIL.
ARTS COUNCIL OPPOSED TOAND, PRIMARILY THE ARTS.
AND SO ALL THE SAME NUMBER OF WEEKS ARE BLOCKED OFF? NO, WE STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND WORK BEFORE THE 2025 CONTRACT COMES OUT.
WE ASK STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO TRY TO REDUCE THE, DO A LITTLE BIT OF EPIC AND SOME OVER OTHER TIMES.
SPREAD IT AROUND, SPREAD IT AROUND, OPEN UP THE UPTOWN.
SO I WAS CURIOUS, UM, FOR 2023 WITH ALL THE DATES THEY, THAT WE HAD PREDETERMINED TO BLOCK OUT, DID THEY ACTUALLY USE ALL THOSE? IT'S I'M UNDER IMPRESSION THAT YES.
WHICH IF YOU, IF YOU DO THE PERFORMANCE DATES AND THEN OCCUPANCY WHERE THEY'RE, UH, PRACTICING FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE MONTHS, IT'S 113 DAYS OUT A YEAR THAT THEY WE'RE CONTRACTING AND THEY, THEY REALLY THAT THEY'LL USE THAT FOR SET UP PRACTICE REHEARSALS IN THE, I KNOW THIS LAST ONE THEY PUT ON, I HEARD NOTHING BUT GREAT.
BUT HUNCH BACK IN NOTRE DAME, IS THAT THE GROUP YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES.
AND, AND AND THEY, I THINK THAT FIRST THEY KIND OF TOOK OFFENSE IN SAYING AS IF I WAS LIKE TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING THEATRICAL ARTS.
WE WANT MORE EXPAND AND, AND UH, BUT ALSO FREE UP SOME SPACE AT UPTOWN.
UM, I THINK WE CONCLUDED WITH THEY'RE OPEN TO SOME CHANGE, BUT THAT PUTS THE PRESSURE ON US TO MAKE SURE THAT COME NEXT YEAR AND THEY'RE GONNA START NOW PLANNING FOR THAT NEXT YEAR THAT, UM, THEY, THAT THEY HOLD TO THOSE WORDS.
CAN SOMEONE ELABORATE ON THAT? ON THE FINISH OUT OF A MILLION DOLLARS, WHAT DOES ALL THAT ENCOMPASS? CAN WE TALK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE EXECUTIVE.
WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE EXEC.
SO WE'LL BE DOING A, A SHORT PRESENTATION AND EXECUTIVE OVER THAT, SIR.
I'VE NEVER HAD A REAL TRUE COMPREHENSION OF THE BY BOARD CAN, UH, I GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, OF THAT PROCESS OF BY BOARD THE WHAT SAID WE'VE BEEN USING BY BOARD A LONG TIME.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST 16 YEARS AND WE USED, I KNOW WHEN I WORKED FOR THE STATE, WE NEVER, WE ONLY USED THE CITY.
UM, I I THINK IT COULD BE BETTER.
MAYBE WE TAKE THIS TO DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO TALK IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WITH AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE BE A LONGER CONVERSATION.
IT'S, IT'S A LENGTHY CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANT TO HAVE A BETTER COMPREHENSION.
WE'LL BRING IT TO THE CCDC AND GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION.
MAYOR PRO? NO, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS.
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EXECUTIVE SESSION.THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A POST SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 5, 1 SUB CHAPTER D OF THE GOVERNOR CODE BT DISCUSSING IT FOLLOWING ITEM TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.05 1.07.
TWO DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY ITEM FOUR, SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.