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WELCOME[Planning and Zoning Staff Briefing]
TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF OCTOBER THE NINTH, 2023.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:30 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.
PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH SHALL BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR TY CHAPMAN, FRANK GONZALEZ, AND CHRIS.
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY? NO.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT? GOOD.
COMMISSIONER, THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 0 1 2 3 0 8 0 0 3 0.
THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST LOCATED AT 9 0 1 AND 9 0 5 HILL STREET.
SO THE EXISTING ZONING HERE, UM, THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED OFFICE.
THEY'RE WANTING TO REZONED IT TO SF SIX.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTHERN LOT THERE'S SF ONE ZONING, AND ON THE EAST AND THE SOUTH THERE'S SF FOUR TO THE WEST.
IT'S GR SO AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ZONE TO SF SIX.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO SELL BOTH OF THE LOTS AS SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
I BELIEVE THEY'VE HAD SOME TROUBLE TRYING TO SELL THIS OFFICE.
IT'S A PRETTY RESTRICTIVE ZONING DISTRICT.
SO HERE'S JUST A SUMMARY OF THE LOT REQUIREMENTS.
IT SHOULD SEEM FAMILIAR TO CASE I HAD LAST MEETING.
THESE ARE OUR SF SIX ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS THE STREET VIEW AT THE INTERSECTION.
YOU CAN SEE TO THE WEST THERE THAT THEY HAVE THE, UH, EXISTING HOUSES.
SO ON THREE OF THE FOUR SITES, IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S JUST THAT ONE TO THE, EXCUSE ME, TO THE WEST IS ACTUALLY AN AUTO RELATED BUSINESS.
SO EXISTING LAW IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTIES OR RESIDENTIAL USES ON THREE OR FOUR SIDES.
THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, THE FACING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MAY BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL COMMISSION PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT IS THAT, UH, THE SETBACK SINCE THAT WAS AS ZONE ERA ORIGINALLY AS A OFFICE.
IS THERE GONNA BE ANY DIFFERENCES IN THAT? YES.
SO SF SIX, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SMALLER, UH, REQUIREMENTS, BUT IN GENERAL, THIS IS AGAIN, PART OF THAT DALWORTH PLOT, WHICH IS THE OLDEST PLOT IN THE CITY.
AND SO THEY'RE RELATIVELY SMALL LOTS.
UM, BUT BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY A PLATTED LOT, WE RES WE RESPECT THE LOT LINES AND THE AREA OF THE LOT.
LIKELY THOUGH, IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OR THE AREA REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HOUSE OR SO THE LIVING AREA REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HOUSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ZBA FOR THAT.
AND THE APPLICANT WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE TWO LOTS, BUT ONE HOUSE, TWO LOTS, TWO HOUSES, I BELIEVE IS THE OH TWO HOUSES.
AND IT'S CURRENTLY POSITIVE AS TWO DIFFERENT LOTS RIGHT NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM.
UM, THIS REQUEST IS TO ADDRESS, AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, NORTH OF 2 87.
WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT CALLED LAKE SONG CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS WANTED US TO GO THROUGH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S ALL THIS IS, IS JUST CLEANING THAT UP.
IT'S NOT ANY ZONE CHANGE, IT'S JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP INTENT IN ALLIANCE WITH THEIR PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? WAS THIS THE, THE SAME IN THE SAME, UH, PRESENTATION WE SAW WHEN WE SAW THE, THE PREVIEWS OF THIS AGES AGO, A WHILE BACK? NO, THAT WAS, UH, FOR PRAIRIE RIDGE SOUTH.
THIS IS A, A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER, HUFFINES.
THEY'VE MOVED IT ON A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.
PROVIDENT, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER FOR PRAIRIE RIDGE? IT'S KIND OF SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
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UM, BUT THEY'RE TO GO PREMISE AS FAR AS, AS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
RIGHT, GIVING YOU COMMISSIONERS.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM SIX AND SEVEN.
THIS IS YOUR JOINT ITEM ASSOCIATED WITH A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FOR BILL TORAN HYBRID HOUSING.
SO THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THIS REQUEST IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE PROPOSED, UM, BUILT TO RAN HYBRID HOUSING REQUIRES THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO BE CHANGED FROM WHAT CURRENTLY IS LOW DENSITY TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURE.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY DIFFERENT PDS, WHICH HAS MIXTURE OF A SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USES.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL AREA OF WHERE THIS PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED.
SO THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST SINCE THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, AND I'LL GO OVER TO THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
SO AS FAR AS THE ZONE CHANGE, THEY ARE REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE WITH A CONCEPT PLAN.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES.
SO IT'S NOT STACKED MULTI-FAMILY 3, 4, 5 STORY BUILDINGS.
THIS IS TOWN HOME LOOKING PRODUCT.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE BUILT AROUND HYBRID HOUSING FOR THE LOTS THAT WILL BE PLOTTED AS ONE LOT.
AND THESE UNITS WILL BE BUILT THERE THAT IT WILL NOT BE SOLD AND PLOTTED INDIVIDUALLY FOR SALES, BUT IT WILL BE, UH, FOR RENT AND IT'LL BE ON ONE COMMERCIAL LOT.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING 205 UNITS.
AND THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL LOCATION.
UM, CURRENTLY THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURE.
SO THIS IS A KIND OF A CONCEPT PLAN THAT DEPICTS HOW THEY FORESEE THE INTERNAL DRIVES AND, UM, ACCESS AND THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE WILL LOOK LIKE.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, TWO UNDER FIVE UNITS WITH JUST DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES THAT ARE ABOUT TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS EACH.
AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET BASED ON THE ZONING.
SO THEY ARE PROPOSING FOUR DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
UM, SO THEY'RE PRO UH, PROPOSING WHAT THEY CALL LIKE COTTAGES.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER UNIT WITH THREE BEDROOM THAT WILL HAVE ONE BUILDING WILL BE OCCUPIED BY THE SWAN FAMILY.
AND THEY HAVE FRONT LOADED TOWN HOMES.
THIS IS THE MOST COMMON UNITS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE 54% OF THESE PRODUCT.
SO HERE THEY'RE HAVING ONE CAR GARAGE WITH ONE DRIVEWAY, WHERE THERE'LL BE PARKING TWO CARS FOR EACH UNIT.
THESE ARE TWO BEDROOM PRODUCT AND THEY'RE ABOUT 28 FEET WIDE.
AND THEY HAVE A THIRD TYPE, WHICH IS A RARE, UH, RARE LOADED TOWN HOMES, IN WHICH CASE THESE TOWN HOMES MAY FACE A, A SIDEWALK OR OPEN SPACE.
HOWEVER, THOSE GARAGE SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED IN THE BACK.
AND THE LAST ONE IS THAT THEY WANT US PROPOSE A SMALLER UNITS WITH NO GARAGE SPACES.
THEY DO PROPOSE, UM, SURFACE PARKING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE ALL THIS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A LAYOUT OF WHERE ALL THESE HOUSING TYPES ARE USED.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE COTTAGES KIND OF SPACED OUT HERE AND THERE.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TOWN HOMES, SMALLER UNITS WITH NO GARAGE SPACES BEING PARKED ON SURFACE PARKINGS.
AND THESE ARE THE RARE LOADED TOWN HOMES.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY KIND OF FACE THE MENINI AREA AND IN THE SIDEWALK, HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, BACK STREET OR BACK ALLEY THAT THEY, THE CARS CAN PULL IN.
AND THESE ARE THE FRONT LOADED AREA, UH, GARAGES.
THEY WILL HAVE ONE GARAGE DOOR IN THE FRONT.
THEY WILL HAVE A TYPICAL GR UM, DRIVEWAY.
SO IT WILL KIND OF LOOK LIKE A SMALLER SCALE TOWN HOME WITH JUST ONE GARAGE DOOR VERSUS TWO THAT YOU SEE.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
SINCE THESE BUILDINGS MIGHT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE EACH BUILDING MAY HAVE UP TO FOUR UNITS TOGETHER.
THIS ACTUALLY CREATES THESE UNITS TO ACTUALLY APPEAR A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THESE TINY, VERY SMALL LOOKING BUILDINGS CREATING MORE OF A COHESIVE LOOK.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE WITH THE HYBRID HOUSING APPENDIX W STANDARD.
THAT THEY WILL NOT JUST BE VERY SMALL, ALMOST STORAGE SHE LOOKING BUILDINGS, BUT WHEN COMBINED THEY WILL LOOK A LITTLE MORE LIKE A TOWN HOME SCALE.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
ONE IS THAT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO START A MINIMUM LIVING AREA AT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
SO SINCE THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ALL THE FOUR PLANS YET.
UH, ONCE THESE STANDARDS ARE APPROVED, THIS WILL ALL BE REVIEWED AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE.
THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING, UM, OUR UVC REQUIRES, UM, AT LEAST 70% OF THESE TOWN HOMES TO
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HAVE A LARGER, UH, BUILDING FOOTPRINT OR LIVING AREA.THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THEY WILL HAVE HALF AND HALF, HALF BIGGER UNITS AND HALF OF SMALLER UNITS.
ANOTHER, UM, UH, VARIOUS REQUESTS THEY'RE ASKING IS THAT OUR UDC DOES REQUIRE TOWN HOMES WITH MORE THAN ONE BEDROOMS TO HAVE TWO GARAGE PARKING, AS YOU'VE SEEN THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THESE TOWN HOMES, WE WANNA HAVE ONE GARAGE SPACE AND ONE DRIVEWAY PARKING.
AND FOR THESE, WE WANNA PROVIDE TWO GARAGE PARKING, BUT FOR THE COTTAGE AND THE TOWN HOME, SMALLER TOWN HOMES, THEY JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A SURFACE PARKING.
SO THAT IS THE THIRD VARIANCE INCLUDED.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.
SO THIS IS THE LEGAL NOTIFICATION AREA OF 200 FOOT BUFFER.
UH, MOST OF THE LETTERS ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE, ON THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
CURRENTLY, UH, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 86 UNIQUE ADDRESS, MEANING THAT SOME ADDRESSES SENT IN MORE THAN ONE LETTER.
SOMETIMES IT'S BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS OR, UM, ONE OF THE LETTERS.
THESE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS SUBMITTED THE LETTER TWO WEEKS AGO THINKING THAT IT WILL GO.
I THINK THEY RESUBMITTED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE COUNTED.
HOWEVER, WE'RE COUNTING JUST THE PER PARCEL BASE PER ADDRESS BASE.
SO THESE ARE THE, UH, OPPOSITION LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR.
SO STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE REQUEST DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION IN THIS AREA.
THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? CAN YOU REMIND ME? SO LOW DENSITY DESIGNATION IS AT SIM ONLY SINGLE FAMILY.
SO IT'S, WE KIND OF BASE IT ON THE DENSITY, UM, OF THE NUMBER BASED ON THE ACREAGE.
SO LOW DENSITY, IT'S ZERO TO SIX.
SO IT COULD BE TOWN HOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES, AS LONG AS, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TOO MANY HOUSES PER EACH ACRE.
SO THIS IS PRO, UH, PROPOSING 11, THAT'S THE 11 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT MOVES TO THE MEDIUM DENSITY, LOW DENSITY.
SO THIS IS IN THE SIX TO 12, WHICH IS IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY.
SO, UH, IT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME, BUT IF THEY'RE KIND OF CLOSER TOGETHER, IT COULD BE A MEDIUM DENSITY AS WELL.
AND ALSO, UM, SO THIS, UH, THIS WHOLE PROPERTY, THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE OWNED BY ONE, ONE ORGANIZATION THAT WILL THEN RENT THEM OUT.
SEAL FOR LIFE THAT I BELIEVE THAT IS THE APPLICANT THAT THEY WILL BE OWNING ALL THESE UNITS AND WE'LL BE RENTING IT OUT TO INDIVIDUALS.
COMMISSIONER COCO, I THINK IF, UH, QUESTION IF THIS IS IN ELLIS COUNTY? YES.
SO, WHICH SCHOOL DISTRICT? I'LL LOOK THAT UP.
IS THE DEVELOPER GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT? YES.
I HAD REAL CONCERNS WITH SO MANY OPPOSITION LETTERS.
SO DID, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY REACHED OUT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY? SO WE DID SHARE THE LIMITED INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE.
I THINK THEY, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGE WAS SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WERE SO NEW THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE REGISTRATION FOR THESE AREA YET.
'CAUSE THESE ARE STILL GETTING FILLED AND BEING PURCHASED BY INDIVIDUALS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS AN HOA CONTACT AVAILABLE, BUT THIS, UM, THE APPLICANT WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN MORE IN DETAIL.
SINCE THIS IS IN ELLIS, HOW MANY OTHER, UH, UH, FACILITIES OF, UH, DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON OUT THERE? SO HERE'S, UM, LET ME SEE.
SO HERE'S SOME OF THE PDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THIS AREA.
SO, UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, 3 22.
THIS IS SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT, GREENWAY TRAILS AREA.
AND WE HAVE THIS OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WAS APPROVED.
SO THIS IS ALL KIND OF WITHIN GRAND PERRY WITH THE PD.
UM, UH, THESE TWO PDS ARE LIKE A MIXED USE.
SO THE AREAS THAT ARE OPEN ARE RESERVED FOR EITHER COMMERCIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL.
SOME OF THEM ARE FOR MULTI-FAMILY.
WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY PRODUCT BEING PROPOSED HERE THAT THE ZUNI WAS APPROVED.
SO OUT OF ALL OF THESE, THE ONLY, THE PD 3 22 IS RESIDENTIAL ARREST OR LIKE TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER.
SO WHATEVER, WHERE EVER YOU DON'T SEE RESIDENCES, THOSE ARE FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND HERE THE DARKER COLOR ARE FOR MULTIFAMILY.
AND THE RED HERE FOR THE 3 9, 9 8, THAT IS GENERAL RETAIL.
I BELIEVE THE 4 37 HAS COMBINED THIS MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION AND THIS VACANT LOT AND GOT THEIR ZONING APPROVED FOR MULTIFAMILY PRODUCT.
SO HAS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY? YES.
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GREENWAY TRAILS DID ONE BACK WHEN IT WAS FIRST GETTING BUILT.
A LOT OF THE HANOVER STUFF ON THE JUST EAST SIDE OF 360.
UM, THE SCHOOL ISLE, TEXAS GOING IN DOWN THERE, THEY DID ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO WE'VE BEEN CLOSELY MONITORING THE AREA AND WE'VE GOT SEVERAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN THE WORKS, UM, TO HELP SUPPORT THE AREA GROWTH.
UH, CJ YOU HAD COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT LIKE, WAS IT 30 40,000 RESIDENTS? THIS, THAT WHOLE LOCATION DOWN THERE OFF 2 87, 360, CORRECT.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, IT'S THAT DEVELOPMENT WEST OF IT.
WEST OF, SO YEAH, JUNE PULL UP.
WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS LAKE SONG IS CONCERNED, THERE'S A CREEK, A FLOODPLAIN AREA, AND THEN TO THE, TO THE WEST OF THIS, THAT YELLOW PARCEL IS LAKE SONG, WHICH IS NORTH OF 2 87.
SOUTH OF THIS, YOU SEE 2 87 RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER.
THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WE DID THE, UM, CHARETTE AND MEETING WITH THAT DEVELOPER.
SO YES, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO THIS.
THE CLOSEST TO THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS CALLED GREENWAY TRAILS.
SO THE, I'M ASSUMING THE HOMEOWNERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION OF ALL THIS.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS YES.
BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ESSENTIALLY, SO, WELL NO, THIS HAS NOT, THIS IS A ZONE CHANGE.
SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS PARCEL HERE.
THEY'RE CHANGING THE ZONING FROM, UH, AG IS WHAT I BELIEVE TO HYBRID HOUSING.
THE FUTURE LAND MAP SAYS THAT THIS SHOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY DETACH, LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THINK THAT'S IT.
SO I GUESS WE WILL, UH, CLOSE THE, UH, BRIEFING AT 5 47 AND RECONVENE AT SIX 30.
[Call to Order]
OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 9TH, 2023.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY TAKE A, MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE CHERYL SMITH.
UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR TY CHAPMAN AND FRANK GONZALEZ.
AND NOW, UM, COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.
AND AFTER THAT, I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS, GLORIA, AS GOD YOU PROMISE TO OPEN DOORS OF BLESSING AND ABUNDANCE FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
WE ASK YOU WILL WORK MIGHTILY IN US TODAY.
COME UPON US AND HELP US TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE MEETING TODAY.
LEAD EACH ONE OF US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE FRUITFUL CONTRIBUTIONS.
ENABLE US TO STRATEGIZE IN WAYS THAT WILL ACHIEVE GREAT RESULTS.
PURIFY OUR THOUGHTS AND MOTIVES SO THAT EACH ONE OF US WILL ENTER THIS MEETING DESIRING THE GOOD OF OTHERS AND BE PLEASING TO YOU AND YOUR NAME.
LORD, PLEASE BLESS AND PROTECT ALL OUR CITY LEADERS, CITY STAFF, FIRST RESPONDERS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, OUR FA, OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND ALL WHO ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.
TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE
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REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE WORLD UNDER TEXAS SIDE, I, I PLEAD THEE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.ONE AN INDIVISIBLE IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.
THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAMES AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME.
CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO.
[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]
THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.WE APPROVE ITEM ONE, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 25TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING OF SEPTEMBER THE 25TH.
SORRY, CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE, UH, PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FKO.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[PUBLIC HEARING POSTPONEMENT, RECESS, CONTINUATIONS]
WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE, UH, POSTPONEMENTS, PLEASE.WE POSTPONE ITEMS TO, UH, THE ZONING FOR ZERO N DASH 23 DASH ZERO EIGHT DASH 0 0 2 9 TO, AND, UH, ITEM THREE CPA DASH TWO THREE DASH ZERO EIGHT DASH 0 0 7 TO THE OCTOBER 23RD PNZ MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO POSTPONE ITEMS TWO AND THREE ON THE, UH, AGENDA AND BY COM.
UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FKO.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
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GOOD EVENING.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS 0 1 2 3 0 8 0 0 3 0.
THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR TWO LOTS.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED OFFICE THERE.
THE PROPOSED ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SIX.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ZONING OF THOSE PARCELS AND THEN THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.
SO DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS SF ONE TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH.
AND THEN TO THE WEST IS GENERAL RETAIL.
SO AGAIN, THREE OF THE FOUR SIDES ARE SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND SINGLE FAMILY USES.
IT'S JUST THAT ONE PARCEL TO THE WEST THAT IS GENERAL RETAIL.
UM, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES DESIGNATE THIS AREA AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO IT DOES MATCH WHAT THE FLU CALLS FOR.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF LOT REQUIREMENTS FOR SF SIX ZONING.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS THEY ARE WANTING TO SELL THOSE TWO LOTS AS SINGLE FAMILY, UM, ZONE SINGLE FAMILY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO AND PUT TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THEM.
THIS IS A STREET VIEW AT THE INTERSECTION.
SO AGAIN, BECAUSE THE EXISTING LOTS ARE SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THROUGH THE FOUR SIDES, AND DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE LOTS BEING RELATIVELY SMALL, UM, WE DO FEEL THAT THIS MAY BE THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THESE PARCELS.
AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL INCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THINK YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB IN BRIEFING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM THE APPLICANT, DONNA KOEPKE.
UH, SHE INDICATED THAT SHE DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTED TO RECORD HER SUPPORT, BUT SHE IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WHERE IS DON? SHE OH, DON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, WANTING TO DO THIS.
WE, WE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION? CAN I GET A MOTION? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CON DASH 23 DASH EIGHT DASH 0 0 3.
UH, THREE ZERO, UH, 9 0 1 AND 9 0 5 HILL STREET.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
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TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE BY COM.COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[5. CPA-23-09-0018 - Comprehensive Plan Amendment - Lakesong (City Council District 6 and Grand Prairie ETJ). Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Future Land Use Map from Low Density Residential, Open Space, and Commercial Retail Office on 1,201 acres to Open Space, Mixed Use, High Density Residential, Medium Density Residential, and Low Density Residential. Four parcels located within the City of Grand Prairie Extra-Territorial Jurisdiction, generally located south of Seeton Road, East of FM 661, North of 287, and North of Kimble Road, Ellis County, Texas identified by Ellis County Property IDs of 294666, 294715, 190594, and 297164, with approximate addresses of 5191 Hwy 287, Midlothian, Texas and 5101 HWY 287, Midlothian, Texas]
MADAM CHAIR COMMISSION.UM, THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR LAKE ZONE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND I'LL NOTE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NOT ZONING.
IT'S THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT INTENT FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS A 12 AC THIS IS TIED TO A 1200 ACRE DEVELOPMENT, MAJORITY OF WHICH IS IN THE ETJ.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE MIXED USE, URBAN RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, RESIDENTIAL, AND SOME OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC TRAIL.
UM, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY RESOLUTION FOR, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AT ONE POINT, THIS WAS CALLED WINDSOR HILLS, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2011, I BELIEVE.
UH, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER, HUFFINES DEVELOPMENT, HAS PURCHASED A PROPERTY.
WE REVISED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND NOW THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS NEW
SPECIFICALLY, THIS TIES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS I MENTIONED, AND THE LAYOUT OF THEIR CONCEPT PLAN.
SO THEIR CONCEPT PLAN CALLS AS FAR AS THESE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES AND MIXED USE, UH, THROUGH THIS AREA.
SO THERE'LL BE CHANGING FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE TO OPEN SPACE, MIXED USE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME LETTERS OF OPPOSITION WITH REGARD TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
THEY HAVE NOTED ISSUES WITH THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND I'LL AGAIN NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A ZONE CHANGE.
THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, BUT THEIR CONCERNS ARE VALID IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC AT 2 87 AND, UH, FF 6 61 AS WELL AS LAKE RIDGE.
UM, EVEN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH PRAIRIE, PRAIRIE, PRAIRIE RIDGE, WE, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY CALL A MICHIGAN U-TURN, WHERE HAVING ACCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GO DIRECTLY ACROSS 2 87 FROM PRAIRIE RIDGE BOULEVARD.
THE SAME ISSUE WILL LIKELY HAPPEN WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
AS NOTED, THIS IS A LITTLE WAYS DOWN THE LINE.
UM, TXDOT IS AWARE, UH, THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE POSSIBILITY, UH, UH, ENVIRON ENVIRONMENTAL FOR, UH, FURNISHED ROADS IN THIS AREA.
UH, LONG TERM POSSIBILITY OF AN OVERPASS, UM, FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH OVER 2 87 FROM PRAIRIE RIDGE TO LAKE SONG.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST FOCUSED IN ON, I GIVE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT THIS IS MORE FOCUSED IN ON JUST THE FUTURE LANE MAP AMENDMENT, UM, FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THE PROJECT IN ITSELF, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP WHETHER THIS IS APPROVED OR NOT, BUT THIS IS JUST PROVIDING SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WHEN WITHIN THAT AREA.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, I THINK YOU JUST SAID THIS, THAT THE ZONING'S ALREADY SAID? YES.
THAT'S ALL I NEED TO, THIS IS IN THE ETJ.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY ZONING, IT'S JUST APPROVAL FOR A CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S TIED TO AN A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.
UH, OVER, OVER THE PROCESS OF THIS PROJECT, THEY WILL BE JUST HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, THERE WILL BE ANNEXED INTO WHAT THEY CALL A MMD, WHICH IS A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THE TCEQ, TEXAS WATER WATER CONTROL.
UH, THE AGENCY, THEY HANDLE THAT PORTION.
THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE ABOUT A YEAR AT THAT POINT WHEN THEY HAVE AN MMD, WHICH WILL HELP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.
UM, WE'LL TAKE OVER THE, THE AREA WITH REGARD TO AN ANNEXATION.
THE MMD WILL STILL CONTROL, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BUT THEY'LL ANSWER TO CITY COUNCIL COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
AND, UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UM, THAT WITH THE AGREEMENT, THAT MEANS THEY'RE IN, IN STEP WITH WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR IN THE FLUME, I'M ASSUMING.
AND WE'RE JUST BRINGING OUR FLUME IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO WITH REGARD TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE ONLY THING IS THAT, I THINK I ASKED A QUESTION IN A BRIEFING THAT HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, WITH THE FOLKS IN THE AREA, SURROUNDING AREAS? THE PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES, UH, I BELIEVE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS.
NOW, UH, KEEP IN MIND THEY OWN ALL THIS PROPERTY.
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DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO THE CITIZENS MM-HMMBUT THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP, UH, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ETJ AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION.
FLU IS IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY, IT'S JUST LINES ON THE PAPER.
BUT IT'S STILL GOOD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND, AND I THINK THEY ARE HERE AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ELABORATE MORE ON THAT.
SO HOW MANY LETTERS OF, UH, OPPOSITION DID YOU HAVE? TWO.
ONE IS ACTUALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT ACROSS, UH, THE FLOOD PLAIN.
AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER IS ON THE, UH, I'M SORRY, IT'S ON THE, YES, THE WEST SIDE AND THE OTHER IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
THERE'S TWO, TWO OPPOSITE SIDES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
MADAM CHAIR, UH, CASEY STEVENSON, UH, WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER.
UH, HE INDICATED THAT HE'LL SPEAK IN SUPPORT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THIS WAS, UH, PRETTY CUT AND DRY.
CAN I GET A MOTION? UM, MADAM CHAIR, I, UH, MOVE THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM FIVE CPA 23 0 9 0 0 1 8.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE BY COMMISSIONER KOKA AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER A LEY.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[Items 6 & 7]
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.THE NEXT ITEMS ARE ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN.
UM, IT IS FOR A ZEAL AT LAKEVIEW, WHICH IS A PROPOSED BILL TO RENT HYBRID HOUSING.
UM, THE TWO ITEMS, ONE IS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, CPA 23 0 7 0 0 1 4.
AND THE OTHER ITEM IS THE ZONE CHAIN.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY, UM, REQUIRING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS BECAUSE THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY PER ACRE IS, UM, ZERO TO SIX.
AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS AT 11, WHICH REQUIRES A MEETING IN DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXISTING ZONING SHOWS THIS AREA AS AGRICULTURE SHOWN WITH THE YELLOW OUTLINE.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER PDS.
UM, MOST OF THESE PDS ARE EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR, UM, UM, UNDER REVIEW.
AND THESE CONSIST OF MIXTURE OF USES.
UM, LARGE PORTION OF THEM ARE DEDICATED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PORTIONS THAT IS LEFT OUT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, SUCH AS RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL, AND SOME FOR MULTIFAMILY AS WELL.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE BOUNDARY OF, UM, WHERE THIS, UH, PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED.
IT WILL BE SHOWN ON THE WEST SIDE OF M 6 61 IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE THREE SIX C AND US 2 87 INTERSECTION.
SO STEPH IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST AND SINCE THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT FUTURE LANE USE MAP DESTINATION, UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT, UH, FUTURE LANE USE DESIGNATION IS NOT THE ZONING, BUT IT IS A RECOMMENDED LAND USE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST IS A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST WITH A CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARD WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME.
SO THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL MULTI-FAMILY WITH MULTIPLE STORIES THAT ARE STACKED TOGETHER.
THIS IS BASED ON WHAT WE CLASSIFY AS A HYBRID HOUSING WHERE THIS PROPERTY WILL BE PLOTTED INTO ONE LOT RATHER THAN BEING SUBDIVIDED INTO INDIVIDUAL LOT FOR SALE.
BUT IT WILL BE OWNED BY ONE ENTITY AND THESE UNITS WILL BE RENTED OUT FOR, UH, WHOEVER WANTS TO OCCUPY THESE UNITS.
THEY'RE PROPOSING OVERALL 205 BUILT TO RENT HYBRID HOUSING.
UM, THEIR CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURE.
SO THIS DEPICTS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE ZONE CHANGE IF THIS PD REQUEST WILL IS TO BE APPROVED, THEY'RE PROPOSING DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, BUT IN GENERAL, THERE ARE ABOUT TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AT 35 FEET, WHICH IS THE STANDARD MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN ANY SINGLE FAMILY.
THEY'RE PROPOSING FOUR DIFFERENT HOUSING PRODUCT WITHIN THIS PROPOSAL.
THEY HAVE A, WHAT THEY CALL COTTAGES, THERE'S ABOUT 11 UNITS.
SO THIS IS A ONE UNIT PER BUILDING, MEANING JUST ONE HOME WITHIN THIS INDIVIDUAL BUILDING.
IT'LL BE A THREE BEDROOM UNIT.
MAJORITY OF THE AREA WILL BE WHAT THEY CALL FRONT LOADED TOWN HOMES.
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HAVE ONE CAR GARAGE WITH A DRIVEWAY TO BE ABLE TO PARK ADDITIONAL VEHICLE.IT WILL BE A TWO BEDROOM UNIT AND THEY CAN HAVE UP TO FOUR UNITS IN ONE BUILDING, UM, UNIT.
AND THEY HAVE REST OF THEM AS A RARE LOADED TOWN HOMES WITH THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO CAR GARAGES AND SOME TOWN HOMES WITHOUT ANY GARAGES.
THERE'S ABOUT 48 OF THESE UNITS PROPOSED.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN OF HOW THESE UNITS WILL BE KIND OF MIXED TOGETHER.
THERE WILL, UM, BE SOME MIXTURE OF COTTAGES AND REGULAR TOWN HOMES AND ALL THE, UH, RARE LOADED TOWN HOMES WILL BE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IN THE, UH, TOWN HOME UNITS WHERE IT'LL BE SERVED WITH NO GARAGE PARKING, BUT WITH SURFACE PARKING ARE KIND OF LINED IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE, UH, PINK.
SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS.
SO AS WE HAVE MENTIONED, THIS IS A HYBRID HOUSING.
ONE OF THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE IN APPENDIX W FOR HYBRID HOUSING IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THESE UNITS LOOKING VERY SMALL, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A VERY SMALL HOUSE OR VERY SMALL STORAGE UNIT.
SO IN, IN OUR CONCEPT, WE ALLOW THEM TO BE PUT TOGETHER LIKE FOUR UNITS BEEN BEING PUT TOGETHER IN ONE BUILDING SO THAT IT WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IN SCALE AND IT'S MORE SIMILAR TO A TOWN HOME LOOK.
SO HERE ARE OTHER CONCEPT OF ELEVATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED TO INDICATE HOW THE HEL WAS, WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THIS PROJECT PROJECT THERE.
UM, REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS THAT OUR TOWN HOME STANDARD REQUIRES THAT THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA TO START RIGHT AT, UH, 15 11 50 SQUARE FEET, THEY'RE ASKING THAT TO BE REDUCED TO A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
SO IT WOULD BE A RANGE OF THE UNITS, BUT THE SMALLEST UNIT MAY BE AT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND THEY'RE ASKING SECOND VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE 70% REQUIREMENT FOR LARGER UNITS TO BE REDUCED TO 50.
THE LAST VARIANCE THEY'RE REQUESTING IS THE GARAGE PARKING.
AS I HAVE MENTIONED, OUR UDC CURRENTLY REQUIRES ANY TOWN HOMES WITH MORE THAN TWO BEDROOMS TO PROVIDE TWO GARAGE PARKING INSIDE THEIR GARAGE.
THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PARK TWO CARS.
THEY HAD PROVIDED, UM, TWO CAR GARAGE PARKING FOR ONE OF THE HOUSING TYPE, BUT OTHER HOUSING TYPE THEY DID NOT.
SO OVERALL, THEY'LL BE PROVIDING 136 PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE GARAGE, WHETHER IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE OR A ONE CAR GARAGE.
AND THEY WILL HAVE 110 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ON THIS GATED DRIVEWAY FOR THOSE PRODUCT THAT ONLY HAS ONE CAR GARAGES, BUT ALL OTHER PARKING AND ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR GUESTS AND FOR OTHER PRODUCT WILL BE PROVIDED AS A SERVICE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME, UM, LETTERS AND OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBOR, UH, NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.
THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR VER UM, REQUIRED NOTIFICATION AREA.
HOWEVER, WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE LETTERS WERE COMING FROM.
THESE ARE THE UNIQUE AREAS THAT, UH, THESE ARE THE UNIQUE ADDRESSES THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THE LETTERS AND OPPOSITIONS.
SO WE WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW FOR PUBLIC RECORD THAT SOME ADDRESSES PROVIDED MULTIPLE LETTERS.
HOWEVER, ONLY ONE WILL COUNT AS WE COUNT WHERE THE ADDRESS IS.
SO SOME, I BELIEVE, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THEY WERE HEARD.
SO THEY SUBMITTED LETTERS LAST TIME FOR THE PNZ WHEN THE CASE WAS TABLED.
SOME SUBMITTED A REPEAT LETTERS JUST WANTING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE CAPTURED THEM ALL IN OUR EXHIBITS, BUT THESE ARE ACTUAL, UH, COUNT OF NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT WE COUNTED.
SO LASTLY, THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE REQUEST DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION OF THE FLU.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UM, FOR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND TO ANSWER, UM, COMMISSIONER KO'S QUESTION DURING THE BRIEFING, IT IS IN THE MID LY AND ISD UM, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS? I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.
SO THE APPLICANT DID PREPARE A SHORT PRESENTATION, SO I'LL PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN AND LET HIM TAKE OVER COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD FOR US TO SEE THE PRESENTATION.
IS THAT OKAY WITH Y'ALL? OKAY.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UH, ERIC LITTLE, UH, ADDRESSES FIVE, UH, 5 6 1 8 VANDERBILT AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE QUESTIONS AND KIND OF TALKING MORE PROJECT SPECIFIC, I THOUGHT IT'D BE BENEFICIAL JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AND, AND OUR KIND OF UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CAPITAL PARTNER.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MOST DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER COMES IN, BUILDS APARTMENTS OR BUILDS WHATEVER, GETS IT FULLY LEASED, THEN SELLS IT OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE.
AND THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY YOU THAT THAT'S REALLY COME.
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA MANAGE IT.
WE ARE, WE HAVE A, A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR END USER.
SO US AS A DEVELOPER IN OUR CAPITAL, WE ARE HERE LONG TERM AND IT'S A LARGE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY CALLED WELLTOWER, THE STOCK TICKERS, WELL.
IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN THAT, UM,
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YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT THEIR PUBLIC RECORD AND THEY, WHEN THEY DEVELOP THINGS, THEY THEY OWN THEM PRETTY MUCH FOREVER.UM, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN REALLY COUNT ON US TO BE BE HERE, BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST BUILD SOMETHING AND THEN LEAVE IT, YOU KNOW, WEAR AND TEAR, LIVABILITY, MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE PERSONALLY HEAVILY INVESTED IN BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR, FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WELL TOWERS, IT'S THE LARGEST OWNER OF HEALTHCARE REAL ESTATE IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY OWN A HUNDRED O OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITS OF SENIOR, UH, OF SENIOR LIVING.
THEY'RE THE LARGEST OWNER OF MEDICAL OFFICE, ONE OF THE LARGEST OWNERS OF HOSPITALS.
UM, AND WE ARE HELPING THEM BUILD OUT THESE FACILITIES, THESE WELLNESS FACILITIES, WELLNESS COMMUNITIES, UH, TO REALLY KIND OF LEVERAGE THEIR EXPERIENCE IN SENIOR HOUSING AND ACTIVE ADULT AND IN WELLNESS TO MARKET RATE HOUSING.
AND SO IT'S NOT YOUR KIND OF STANDARD APARTMENT HOUSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STRONG EMPHASIS ON, ON OPEN SPACE, A VERY STRONG EMPHASIS ON AMENITIES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE OVER $2 MILLION IN AMENITIES, UH, YOGA, LAWN FITNESS, RAISED GARDEN BEDS THAT ARE MAINTAINED, UH, PICKLE BALL, BOCCE BALL, KINDA A, A VERY ALL-OUT AMENITY PACKAGE.
MULTIPLE DOG PARKS AND WALKING TRAILS.
UM, AGAIN, REALLY JUST STRESS WELLNESS 'CAUSE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING FOR A HEALTHCARE COMPANY.
UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION, WE REALLY TRY TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE CODE, UM, FOR GRAND PRAIRIE SPECIFICALLY HAS 16 HIGH QUALITY FEATURES.
THEY REQUIRE A PORTION OF 'EM, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING.
AND WE, OUR PRODUCT INCLUDES 14 OUTTA THE 16 HIGH QUALITY FEATURES.
YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD QUALITY LUXURY PRODUCT.
IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE ATTAINABLE HOUSING, BUT, BUT I WANNA STRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GONNA BE LUXURY RENTALS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
UM, SO AGAIN, WELLNESS FOCUS RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF COMMODITIZED LIVING, UH, IN CONSTRUCTION THAT PRESENTS ITSELF IN, YOU KNOW, UP UPGRADED WINDOWS, ADDITIONAL WINDOWS FOR OPEN FOR, FOR LIGHT OPEN FLOOR PLANS, A LOT OF FLOOR PLANS WITH MASTER BEDROOMS DOWN, UM, THAT THAT'S PREFERRED FOR, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER AGE DEMOGRAPHIC, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF THESE BUILD RENT DEALS, KIND OF, A LOT OF 'EM ARE THE SAME.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM, FROM THE REST.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WE LEVERAGE THEIR EXPERIENCE IN SENIOR HOUSING, UH, TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL MANAGEMENT BEYOND YOUR TRADITIONAL APARTMENT MANAGER.
SO WE HAVE A WELLNESS DIRECTOR WHO WILL, YOU KNOW, BE REALLY HANDS-ON WITH RESIDENTS IN PLANNING, PLANNING EVENTS BEYOND YOUR KIND OF TRADITIONAL DOG HAPPY HOUR AT OTHER BARMENT COMPLEXES HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE BRINGING IN HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS FOR EDUCATIONAL EVENTS, BRINGING IN HEALTH HE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS FOR KIND OF MOBILE BLOOD DRIVES, MOBILE MAMMOGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING YOU REALLY DON'T SEE MUCH IN THE MARKET.
UM, AND I, I SHARED THIS, UH, WITH JUNE, SO SHE DOES HAVE A, A COPY OF THIS THAT I HOPE MADE ITS WAY TO YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO READ THROUGH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BIG THING AGAIN FOR US IS REALLY THE FOLKS ON WELLNESS SEPARATING OURSELVES FROM JUST, YOU KNOW, THE COMMODITY THAT IS, THAT IS RENTAL HOUSING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF, NOW WE CAN, WE CAN TOUCH, TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON, ON, UH, ON THE PROJECT.
I WANTED TO NOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUNE MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GOING FOR LIKE 11 UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT'S, I THINK, WITHOUT THE OPEN SPACE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING FOR JUST OVER SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE.
SO MUCH CLOSER TO THE MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL, UM, I'M SORRY, TO THE, THE LOW RESIDENTIAL THRESHOLD.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING FOR SUPER HIGH DENSITY LIKE APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE USUALLY 24 TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT, THAT CLARIFICATION.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, UH, ELEVATIONS THAT YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN, THOSE ARE JUST, THAT'S ONE ELEVATION TYPE.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE DIVERSITY OF STREET SAFE AND TO MAKE IT REALLY FEEL LIKE A A FOR SALE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE SOME WITH BRICK BRICK ACCENTS, THERE'LL BE SOME WITH STONE ACCENTS TO REALLY, AGAIN, MAKE IT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A, A FOR SALE, A A REAL COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, NOT A RENTAL COMPLEX OR AN APARTMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
AND ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YEAH, THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT.
SO IS THIS AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY? SO IT'S AGE TARGETED BUT NOT RESTRICTED.
AND WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR TARGET? IT'S FROM FORMING FAMILIES, SO LOW THIRTIES UP IN, UP UNTIL EMPTY NESTERS.
AND THEN, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOUR RENTAL RATES WERE GONNA LOOK LIKE? UH, AVERAGE RENT'S CLOSE TO 3000.
AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO ASKED TO MINIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON TOP OF, SO THAT'S ONE OF YOUR REQUESTS.
RIGHT? SOME OF THE TWO BEDROOM UNITS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER.
THEY'RE, UH, 1100 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO SOME OF, SOME OF OUR UNITS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF THE, THE FLOOR PLANS THAT WE'VE OKAY.
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REALLY SUCCESSFUL WITH AND WE WE'D LIKE TO STICK TO.SO IT'S THE 3000, IS THAT CLOSE? IS THAT, WHAT KIND OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT PARTICULAR 2,700 IS THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT.
IF YOU DO A, IF YOU DO A, I'M SORRY, 2,700 IS THE AVERAGE RENT.
IF YOU DO A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS, IT'S, IT'S OVER $2 PER SQUARE FOOT.
AND THEN, UM, AND SO YOU ALREADY KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS, THE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU SHOW THE BOARD AND BATTEN, THAT'S NOT JUST THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE TYPE A.
KIND OF LIKE, LIKE YOU'D FIND IN, WITH, WITH THE BUILDERS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TYPE A, TYPE B, TYPE C WILL HAVE THE SAME, THEY'LL BE KIND OF TYPE A, YOU KNOW, TYPE A HAS SOME BRICK, TYPE C HAS SOME STONE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE BUILDERS AND THE CCNRS WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, KIND OF THE, THE MONOTONY REQUIREMENTS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SO MANY ELEVATIONS IN A ROW.
I THINK THE CODE ACTUALLY HAS, I THINK FOUR BUILDINGS IN A ROW CAN'T HAVE THE SAME FINISHES.
UM, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY, WE'LL PROBABLY DO MORE THAN THAT.
WE REALLY WANT FEEL LIKE SEEING THAT IN THE PRESENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTING 'CAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE VERSION, SO.
UM, AND THEN YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE ONSITE MANAGEMENT, IS THAT RIGHT? THERE WILL BE ONSITE MANAGEMENT, YES.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE ALL OF OUR HOMES ARE SMART HOME ENABLED, KIND OF ABOVE AND BEYOND WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF INFORMATION GOING TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR MAINTENANCE, FOR KIND OF TO GET OUT AHEAD OF MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE, I HAD A CONCERN IS THAT, UM, THERE ARE SO MANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION MM-HMM
THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION PLUS, UH, THE VARIANCES.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND THE FOLKS AROUND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND THEN THE VARIANCES, I ESPECIALLY THE, THE FIRST ONE FOR THE, THE SMALLEST UNIT FROM 150 SQUARE FEET.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMS, I MEAN, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD TRY TO AT LEAST FIND OUT OR HAVE A CONVERSATION AS TO WHY MAYBE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING TO EASE THAT MM-HMM
AND THEN AS WELL AS TRYING TO WORK A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BETTER WITH, UM, WITH THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND IT ADMITTEDLY, YOU KNOW, OUR OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK TO OWNERS ALONG FM 6 61.
UM, THERE ARE NOT, THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY OF THEM, AS WELL AS SOME OWNERS KINDA TO THE SOUTH THAT ARE OUR CLOSE NEIGHBORS ALONG FM 6 6 1, WHO WILL BE MOSTLY IMPACTED BY OUR SITE AS WELL AS THOSE TO THE SOUTHWEST.
UM, HOWEVER, WE DID NOT, WE WERE UNABLE TO GET A TOWN HALL SCHEDULED WITH GREENLAKE TRAILS AS DR HORTON'S CONTINUING TO SELL HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY HAVEN'T TRANSITIONED THE HOA TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
YOU KNOW, SOME MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL.
WE WERE ALL CONCERNED BY THE NUMBER OF OPPOSITION LETTERS.
I PERSONALLY WENT, WENT THROUGH EVERY OPPOSITION LETTER AND READ EVERY ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CONCERNS WERE AT THE USE.
I MEAN, MOST OF THE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS REALLY WANT RETAIL IN THE AREA.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY OUR LOCATION, BUT IN THE AREA, WHICH I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
UM, AND BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT APARTMENTS.
UM, SO I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE GOTTEN IN FRONT OF THOSE RESIDENTS AND REALLY TALKED THROUGH HOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR APARTMENT COMMUNITIES ARE 24 TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE AND WE'RE, WE'RE SEVEN.
WE'RE REALLY THE SAME AS YOUR COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT ANY DIFFERENT.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR AVERAGE RENTS ARE, ARE REALLY TARGETING THE SAME, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE SAME FOLKS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE MORTGAGE AND THOSE COMMUNITIES VERSUS OUR AVERAGE RENTS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND, AND WE THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR AT TENANTS WILL, WILL KIND OF FIT RIGHT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE AREA.
COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
SO IT'S MR. LITTLE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO I THINK THE CITY HAD A MORATORIUM ON HIGH DENSITY BEFORE WE GOT 86 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
FROM PEOPLE THAT AREN'T EVEN IN THE ZONE OF NOTIFICATION, BUT RIGHT TO THE NORTHWEST.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
DOES, DOES GRAND PRAIRIE NEED MORE MULTIFAMILY? I KNOW IT'S SINGLE STORY.
I KNOW IT'S MEANT TO LOOK LIKE IT'S DETACHED, BUT IT STILL BUILD TO RENT.
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OWNERSHIP.
WHY SHOULD YOU GET MY VOTE? WITH ALL OF THAT AS BACKGROUND? I THINK THE ARGUMENT THERE IS THE WELLNESS COMPONENT IN MULTIPLE STUDIES WITH THE WELLNESS INSTITUTE OF THE COUNTRY, AS WELL AS LEVERAGING WELLNESS.
UH, WELL TOWERS EXPERIENCE IN, IN SENIOR LIVING, THE WELLNESS COMPONENT REALLY KEEPS TENTS IN THE HOMES LONGER.
IT'S NOT, TURNOVER IS NOT NEARLY WHAT IT IS IN YOUR TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY AND
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BEYOND THAT, IT'S BUILT TO RENT WITH LARGER PLANS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING.ONE BEDROOM, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S MUCH LESS TURNOVER THAN APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RENTERS BY CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, THEY LIKE THE LOCK AND LIVE LIFESTYLE.
THEY'VE DOWNSIZED, THEY'RE EMPTY NESTERS, THEY'RE RENTERS BY CHOICE.
THEY SOMETIMES MAY SPEND PART OF THE YEAR SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR THEY LIKE BEING ABLE TO PICK THE PHONE AND CALL SO AND SO TO COME, YOU KNOW, FIX FIX THEIR HOUSE OR, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, I I HESITATE TO REALLY MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE RENTER AND THE OWNER.
I THINK AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS TO THE AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING PROPERTY VALUES.
I THINK THE, THE MYTH THAT THAT APARTMENT AND MULTIFAMILY DECREASES PROPERTY VALUES IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UH, PROVED, PROVED INCORRECT.
WE WILL BE INCREASING PROPERTY VALUES AROUND THE AREA.
'CAUSE WE'RE BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, AN $80 MILLION DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHERE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S CURRENTLY AG.
BUT LIKE, IF IT WAS DR. HORTON, IT MIGHT ECLIPSE THAT $80 MILLION NUMBER ON THE SAME 26 ACRES.
UH, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO GET HIGH DENSITY, I THINK, I THINK FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES AN ACRE AND THEY STILL BE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THERE.
LOW DENSITY, JUST DOING THE MATH QUICKLY, MAYBE.
BUT IT'D BE SIR, LONG TERM OWNERS.
IS THE, IS THE ANSWER THERE COMMISSIONER'S? THE OTHER QUESTION? I, I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION WITH REGARD.
IT'S STILL GONNA IMPACT THE FOLKS THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, STILL GONNA IMPACT, UH, UH, TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN LIVING IN A PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER FOLKS COMING IN, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA IMPACT YOU IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
SO I, I WOULDN'T DISCOUNT THEM BEING A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THAT THEY WON'T BE IMPACTED.
AND CHAIRPERSON, WE, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF 'EM.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE MADE ATTEMPTS TO, TO GET IN FRONT OF THE HOA MULTIPLE TIMES AGAIN.
IT JUST, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE GONE DOOR TO DOOR.
YOU SAID YOU, SO THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST SENIOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT? NO, MA'AM.
HOW MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS DO YOU HAVE WITH WITH THIS GROUP? WITH THIS GROUP, WE ONLY HAVE TWO OTHERS.
AND WHERE ARE THEY? UH, ONE'S IN SHERMAN, TEXAS AND THE OTHER IS IN COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO.
AND THIS, THIS IS A NEWER GROUP, SO IS THERE A, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T TELL ME IF IT'S A HIGH TURNOVER, I GUESS
SO OUR, OUR CAPITAL PROVIDER, HOWEVER, HAS A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS.
IT'S A $40 BILLION RE THEY HAVE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND THE NUMBERS FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, TURNOVER IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IN THE SIX YEAR RANGE.
SO COMPARED TO YOUR AVERAGE TENANT IN APARTMENTS, IS IS HALF THAT AS IT'S, IT'S, IT IT'S WAY DIFFERENT.
COMMERS, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MADDEN, JUST ONE LAST THING.
DO YOU GUYS ALREADY OWN THE PROPERTY OR IS THIS PERSPECTIVE STILL? WE HAVE NOT CLOSED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND JUST, I, WE DO HAVE OUR ENGINEER WITH US.
IF THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I THINK WE OKAY.
COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS AN INTERESTING CASE.
UM, WE HAVE HERE A WONDERFUL LOOKING DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPOSITION.
WE HAVE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, ONE FROM STEVE DILLINGER WHO INDICATED HE WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
MR. DILLINGER, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE, SIR.
I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS, THIS 26 ACRE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THIS, MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 14 YEARS.
PRIOR TO DR. HORTON OR ANY OF THE OTHER ONES COMING IN, WE KNEW I'VE, I I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 1988 IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH, I'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY OUT HERE AND MY WIFE AND I KNEW WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY THAT IT WAS GOING TO GROW OUT THIS WAY.
AND IT HAS, AND I WAS REALLY SHOCKED TO SEE THE OPPOSITION COMING OUTTA DR. HORTON, UH, THAT YOU TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC.
AND THEN WHEN THEY CAME IN, THAT INCREASED OUR TRAFFIC COMING UP DOWN 6 61.
AND SO WHEN DR HORTON COME IN AND ALL THESE OTHERS, WE DIDN'T OPPOSE THAT BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS CITY WAS GONNA GROW.
AND WE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN 14 YEARS AGO WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.
AND MY WIFE AND I STILL LIVE ON THE 10 ACRE TRACK RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS 26 ACRE SIDE, THAT WE WAS REALLY SELECTIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN THAT WANTED TO DEVELOP ON OUR PROPERTY OVER THERE.
WE WERE EXTREMELY PICKY ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GONNA ALLOW TO COME IN
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BECAUSE ONE, WE'RE STILL THERE AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.IT HAS TO MEET OUR CRITERIA BEFORE WE WOULD ALLOW IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND I FELT LIKE ZEAL WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAME TO THE TABLE, UH, WITH A PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH LOOKING AT IN, IN OUR 26 ACRE PROPERTY.
NOT ONLY THAT, UH, DR. HORTON, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY AFTER ME BECAUSE THEY WANT THAT PROPERTY AS WELL TO PUT RENTAL PROPERTIES IN, YOU KNOW, AND I HADN'T EVEN TALKED TO THEM.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALSO AFTER OUR 26 ACRE PROPERTY, HOT AND HEAVY ALONG WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS.
UH, SO I, YOU KNOW, WHEN BACK TO THE OPPOSITION, I, I'M REALLY SHOCKED TO SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UH, THAT THEY WOULD OPPOSE THIS PROJECT GOING IN ON OUR PLACE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EVEN SEE THIS PROPERTY FROM WHERE THEY'RE AT.
WE'RE BASICALLY SITTING ON AN ISLAND.
AND UNLESS YOU GET OUT AND DRIVE RIGHT DOWN 6 61 IN FRONT OF THESE TWO PROPERTIES, YOU'RE, YOU WON'T EVEN SEE THAT FACILITY.
SO I, I JUST THOUGHT THAT, UH, I WOULD COME SPEAK MY PART.
WE HAVE A, ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MAYOR.
SO I THINK, I MEAN, YOU LIVE DOWN SOUTH.
CERTAINLY YOU'RE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT MOST CITIZENS ARE, IF THEY'RE AT ALL INVOLVED, THEY'RE VOICING THEIR DISLIKE ON RENTAL PROPERTIES.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, I MEAN I THINK RENTAL IS THE DEAL.
AND I THINK THE ISSUE WITH THIS IS THAT IT'S CHANGING IT FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO SOMETHING THAT IS RENTAL AND A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A PROPERTY ACROSS FROM YOU THAT LOOKS GOOD AND IS DOING A GOOD THING, BUT I THINK THE HOT POINT RIGHT NOW IS CHANGING, UM, SOMETHING TO MULTIFAMILY OR NOT SINGLE FAMILY.
YOU REALIZE RIGHT ACROSS, UH, FROM THE DR. HORTON WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL MM-HMM
THEY'RE ALSO GOING UP RIGHT THERE WITH APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WELL, IF IT'S ZONED THAT WAY, THEN WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT IF ITS, IT'S NOT, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO, TO LISTEN THROUGH ALL OF OUR PAST PZS AND EVEN COUNSEL ON HOW MUCH WE'RE SWITCHING FROM AG OR UM, SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY.
SO, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU SHOPPING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE TAKE OVER YOUR LAND IS A QUALITY THING.
IT'S JUST WHAT THE LAND IS ZONED FOR RIGHT NOW AND PUTTING IT TO MULTIFAMILY, I THINK IS WHERE EVERYBODY GETS HEARTBURN.
WELL, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW FROM COUNCIL, THANK, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY.
YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE ONE LAST SPEAKER CARD FROM, UH, JASON KAISER.
HE DID NOT INDICATE, UH, SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, UM, THE ENGINEER IF I NEEDED TO SPEAK.
UM, COMMISSIONER, ANY MORE DISCUSSION HERE? I, I THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING CASE, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, THE VAST NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SIX.
I CALL FOR THE QUESTION SO WE CAN GO AHEAD.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN CPA 23 0 7 0 0 1 4 AND ZERO AND 23 0 7 0 0 2 8.
IS THAT AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATION? YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, UM, AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS BY COMMISSIONER KOKA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHN FCO.
ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION, UH, CARRIES TO DENY ON ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, YOU SIX TO ONE? YES.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND, UM, BE SAFE.
UM, WE'RE, UH, ADJOURNED AT 7:12 PM THANK YOU.