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[Planning and Zoning Staff Briefing]
WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF JULY 24TH, 2023.I'M CHERYL SMITH, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:35 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.
PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE CHERYL SMITH.
PETE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS OF PRESENT EXCEPT FOR ANNA COCA, UH, FRANK GONZALEZ AND QUENTIN JOHN FKO.
AND QUENTIN PETE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WHICH NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY? NO.
OKAY, STAFF, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO PRESENT? ANY COMMISSIONERS? THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING DURING BRIEFING IS A SITE PLAN FOR PIVOTAL RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THIS PROJECT SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPOSAL WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED.
UH, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH NOW WITH THE SITE PLAN.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 305 UNITS.
IT'S ON ABOUT 37 ACRES, AND IT'S LOCATED AT ROBINSON I 20 AND 1 61.
YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THE PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY WILL BE OFF OF ROBINSON.
THEY DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY AND ACCESS FOR THE, UH, TRASH COLLECTION OFF OF 1 61 VIA THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
IT DOES MEET OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITH ONE EXCEPTION.
UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ZOOMED IN TO SEE BETTER DETAIL, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING A NUMBER OF AMENITIES.
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
CLOUDED AND GREEN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THEY'RE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE, UH, PUTTING IN SOME NATURAL TRAILS KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE, THE WOODED AREAS.
IT MEETS OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND OUR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
IT DOES, UH, REQUIRE A COUPLE OF VARIANCES.
AS PART OF THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO A TREE SURVEY AND SURVEY ALL OF THE TREES ON SITE.
THEY DID THAT AND PROVIDED THE REQUIRED MITIGATION.
SO THEY'RE REMOVING A TOTAL OF 769 CALIPER INCHES OF PROTECTED TREES, AND THEY'RE MITIGATING THAT THROUGH PRESERVING SMALLER DESIRABLE TREES BY PLANTING NEW TREES AND THEN PAYING INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FEE FUND.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THEIR MATERIALS INCLUDE STONE AND FIBER, CEMENT, SIDING, PANELS.
UH, THE DESIGN ELEMENTS INCLUDE CHANGES AND COLORS AND MATERIALS AND ARTICULATION.
UH, THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEET OUR APPENDIX W DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DO HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT SAYS ANY SINGLE MATERIAL OR COLOR OR TEXTURE SHALL NOT EXCEED 60%, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE NOT MEETING THAT.
AND THIS IS A RENDERING SHOWING THE PROJECT AT THE ENTRY LOCATION.
UH, SINCE THEY'RE NOT MEETING THOSE DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL OF OUR AMENITIES, AND THEY ARE DOING THAT.
THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
UH, THE FIRST IS TO THE SETBACK TO ALLOW GARAGES AND CARPORTS TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH A MINIMUM OF FOUR FOOT SETBACK ALONG THEIR INTERNAL PROPERTY LINES.
AND THEN IN ALONG 1 61, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER, UH, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS HAVE REQUESTED FOR THOSE GARAGES AND CARPORTS.
UH, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO THE FENCE ALONG 1 61.
SO ON THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN, THAT BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE.
SINCE IT'S ADJACENT TO A STREET, WE DO REQUIRE A TYPE TWO FENCE, WHICH IS WROUGHT IRON WITH BRICK COLUMNS.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO DO WOODEN FENCE.
UH, THEIR RATIONALE IS THAT IT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT BETTER SCREENING FROM THE STREET.
THERE'S, AS YOU CAN SEE, A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE SIGNS.
AND, UM, SO THEIR, THEIR REQUEST IS TO DO THAT WOODEN FENCE.
THEY DID, UH, PUT TOGETHER THIS IMAGE KIND OF SHOWING WHAT THE BUILDING'S PLACEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE FENCE
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THAT THAT'S HIDDEN.AND THEN FINALLY, THEIR THIRD VARIANCE IS FOR THE FENCE.
ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PUT A FENCE, A TYPE THREE FENCE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO USE THE EXISTING, UH, FENCE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
UH, SO INSTEAD OF BUILDING A FENCE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT EXISTING FENCE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR RELIEF TO NOT CONSTRUCT THAT FENCE AND JUST TIE IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT I REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE FENCE ALONG 1 61 OR OKAY WITH THE WOODEN MATERIAL.
BUT WE DO RECOMMEND MASONRY COLUMNS.
THIS IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THE, THE STREET.
SO THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
MR. MADDEN, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE FENCE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE THAT THEY WANNA USE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES FENCE, IT'S UP, I THINK THERE'S A GRAPHIC, RIGHT? UM, ON PAGE SIX OF SEVEN, IT'S A WALL AND THEN THERE'S A FENCE ON TOP.
SO THIS IMAGE ON THE SCREEN YEAH.
IS THE RETAINING WALL AND THEN THE FENCE.
THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS MULTIFAMILY PROJECT TO THE NORTH THERE, JUST SO THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW, UM, WHEN THIS CASE CAME THROUGH BEFORE I REMEMBER AT CITY COUNCIL THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, JOHNSON WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON ROBINSON.
UM, IS THERE A REASON, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S, I CAN SEE ON THE PLANS THAT THERE ARE ELEVATION LINES AND I UNDERSTAND HOW TO READ THAT AND I SEE THAT.
SO IS THERE A REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE, UM, I FORGET HOW MANY, THERE ARE 533 PARKING SPACES ONLY EXITING OUT OF ONE EXIT OUT OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, EXCEPT FOR IN AN EMERGENCY.
LIKE THERE'S NO WAY TO TIE US IN AND BE ABLE TO USE THAT EMERGENCY SCHEDULED EXIT.
I KNOW IT GOES INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER, BUT IS THERE ANY, I MEAN, CORRECT.
AND SO STAFF KINDA LOOKED AT THAT WHEN THE ZONING CAME IN AND, AND JUST THE LOGISTICS OF HAVING PEOPLE EXIT OUT HERE THROUGH THAT ADJACENT, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
UH, THEY WEREN'T GIVEN THAT ACCESS.
AND, AND REALLY I THINK STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, BUT BRETT CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ON THE, OKAY.
AND JUST TO ADD, THEY DID DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL, UHHUH
SO GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF UNITS, THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WE HAD AS WELL.
BUT THEY CAME IN AND SHOWED THE NUMBERS AND HOW THAT THEY WOULD LOOK, UH, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WOULD THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC GROWTH IN THE AREA, UM, AND THEY FOUND THAT THAT ONE ENTRANCE, THE BA WAY TRAFFIC WOULD GO IN AND OUT, WOULD SUFFICE FOR THAT.
IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR WOULD THERE BE ANY PLANS OR WOULD WE EXPECT THAT THEY PUT A LIGHT IN OR STOP SIGNS THERE? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A BIT OF A CURVE AND A LITTLE BIT OF A HILL, AND SO MAKING A LEFT OUT OF THERE IS GONNA PROBABLY BE KIND OF HARD.
YEAH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE DO HAVE THEM LOOK AT VISIBILITY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY GO OUT MM-HMM
UH, WE DID ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF A SIGNAL THERE MM-HMM
HOWEVER, IT IS REALLY CLOSED WITHIN TWO SIGNALS.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, IS WORK ON THE TIMING OF THOSE SIGNALS MM-HMM
TO HELP SPACE TRAFFIC OUT SO THAT VEHICLES CAN GET IN AND OUTTA THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT THE, THE CONSTANT, UM, UM, VOLUME OF CARS.
IT DOES, IT'S CALLED PLATOONING.
WHERE WE GROUP THE CARS UP AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE SIGNALS.
AND SO HAVING THINGS LIKE THAT ALONG THESE BUSY STREETS USUALLY HELPS, UM, THESE TYPES OF, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN, I'VE, I'VE TRAVELED ALONG THAT WAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR FIVE 15 MM-HMM
AND IT'S STACKED UP PROBABLY PAST WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE.
SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW PLATO WOULD HELP WITH THAT.
IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD, BUT SURE.
AGAIN, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHERE YOU HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.
THEY ARE PUTTING IN A LEFT TURN LANE TO HELP TRAFFIC GET OFF ROBINSON INTO THE SITE.
AND THEN HAVING THAT, UM, BEING ABLE TO TAKE A RIGHT AND USE THE FRONT ROADS TO EXIT, NOT HAVE TO CROSS, UM, TRAFFIC DURING THAT, THAT BUSY PEAK HOUR MM-HMM
UM, THAT'S USUALLY A, A TOUGH SITUATION ALONG ALL OF OUR PRINCIPAL MATERIALS WITH THESE.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONSTANTLY MONITOR AND LOOK AT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I WAS CONCERNED THAT AREN'T THERE ALREADY SOME APARTMENTS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT ON ROBINSON ROAD THERE? SO LEMME PULL UP THE, DID WE LOOK AT THE FOUR, THE, UH, THE AREAS SURROUNDING IT? SO THERE IS AN EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH MM-HMM
UM, I, IS THAT THE COMPLEX YOU'RE THINKING OF? YEAH.
HOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY UNITS IS THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THE SITE PLAN TO GET THE EXACT NUMBER OF UNITS.
I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S IN BETWEEN 300 AND 399.
THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE NO MORE MORATORIUM AND, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO DO THE, THE APART A LOT OF APARTMENTS IN ONE CONCENTRATED AREA.
AND I'M GLAD BRETT BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE THAT IS GONNA BE HIGHLY CONGESTED IN BRINGING IN ANOTHER SET OF 300 APARTMENTS.
SO I DO HAVE CONCERN FOR THAT.
AND I ALSO HAVE CONCERN, WAS THERE ANY MEETINGS WITH, I KNOW THERE ARE APARTMENTS, BUT WERE THERE ANY, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE, THE FOLKS IN THE AREA TO DISCUSS? UH, YES.
DURING THE, THE ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN, THEY DID HOLD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER OF ATTENDEES.
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THEY DID HOLD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND INVITED THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.I THINK THEY HAD SOME PEOPLE SHOW UP.
UH, A FEW PEOPLE CAME TO THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THEY DID DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH MM-HMM
BUT YOU DIDN'T GET ANY OPPOSITION LETTERS? I, I BELIEVE WE DID, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL DONE WITH THE ZONING CHANGE.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY NEW WRITTEN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITH THIS SITE PLAN CASE.
IS THERE A REASON WHY 305 UNITS? EXACTLY, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONGESTION.
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE 300 ANOTHER COMPLEX THAT'S GONNA BE SIX HUNDRED'S ALMOST A, WHAT? THAT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE AT SOME POINT.
WELL, THE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT SOMEONE COULD PUT ON A PIECE OF LAND IS, IS REALLY DETERMINED BY THE PROPERTIES ZONING.
UH, THE DIFFERENT DONATING DESIGNATIONS ALLOWS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE.
AND WITH THIS, UH, ACTUAL PROPOSAL, THEY, THEY BROUGHT THAT NUMBER WAY DOWN.
UH, WHEN THEY GOT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN EVEN MORE, UM, AT COUNCIL.
UM, SO RATHER THAN SAYING THEY CAN PUT ALL OF THE UNITS THAT THEY COULD, COUNCIL RESTRICTED IT TO 305 UNITS.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING ALLOWED.
SO THE DENSITY IS, IS IS PRETTY DECENT THEN? YES.
I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR ME TO COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS 360 7 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS, IT WAS SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? YES.
BUT THAT'S STILL A LOT OF APARTMENTS TO ME.
THAT'S, THAT'S BUT THREE AND THREE, YOU ADD THREE AND THREE, THAT'S 600 APARTMENTS IN ONE LITTLE AREA.
AND THAT'S ALL THE TRAFFIC GOING OUT.
BUT STILL THAT ALL THAT TRAFFIC IS GONNA HEAD TO THE FREEWAY AND IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED.
AND I'VE GONE DOWN I 20, I LIVE OVER THERE, SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONGESTION THERE.
NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONINGS IN WAS IN PLACE, IT'S ALREADY CHANGED TO THIS MM-HMM
THEY'RE JUST COMING IN AND FINISHING THE SITE PLAN COMPONENT.
SO THIS IS IN ESSENCE ADMINISTRATIVE OUTSIDE OF THE MINOR VARIANCES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE RECORD, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE MAXIMUM IT TAKES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ANOTHER MORATORIUM? THAT WOULD BE OUT OF MY ANSWER.
IT'S WAY OUTTA ITS, IT, ITS THE CITY COUNCIL'S AND WHAT TRIGGERS A MORATORIUM, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY LEGALLY IS IF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COULD NOT HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED USES.
SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS WE HAVE THE ACCESS, YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT'S GONNA SAY, OKAY, WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT UNTIL WE GET IN IT, UNTIL THE APARTMENTS ARE BUILT.
AND THEN WE SEE HOW IT FLOWS OUT, AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
WELL, EVEN IN THAT CASE, TRAFFIC ISN'T GONNA NECESSARILY BE YOUR TRIGGER FOR A MORATORIUM UNLESS THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE COULD NOT HANDLE THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, IMPACT.
SO WHEN I SAY THERE'S LIKE A, A ARTERIAL ROAD THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT'S INTENDED TO SERVE AS A COLLECTOR, IF THAT WAS JUST A TWO LANE ROAD MM-HMM
YOU MAY HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT BEING THAT IT'S A ARTERIAL ROAD AND IT'S ALREADY THERE, UM, AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS BEEN NOTED AND REVIEWED AND SAYING THAT THERE'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IS QUALIFIED TO BE ALLOWED FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND IF I'M, I'M GETTING INTO BRETT'S LANE HERE, THEN IT CAN MOVE FORWARD.
I GUESS, I GUESS I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK, ISN'T THAT WHERE THEY HAVE THE ROBINSON ROAD AND THE CARRIER BREAKTHROUGHS THAT WERE, THAT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY HAD THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE, WHEN THEY BROKE OUT THE ROBINSON ROAD AND THE CARRIER ON THE SIDE OF THE 20? I DON'T KNOW.
IS THAT RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY MADE THOSE COSMETIC CHANGES ON THE, UM, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? FRONTAGE ROAD AND THE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO DOWN ROBINSON ROAD THAT WAY, OR YOU CAN GO CARRY YOU OR YOU CAN GET ON THE FREEWAY.
SORRY, I'M, I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU ON YEAH.
I THINK KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
THEY CAN EMPTY OUT TO THAT AND RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO NORTH TO, UM, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT MIGHT BE AN UNDERLYING FACTOR AS TO WHY THEY, YOU KNOW, AGREED THAT THAT WAS OKAY BECAUSE OF THOSE CHANGES IN THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I THINK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AS BRETT MENTIONED, THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT TRIGGERED ANY CONCERN.
YES, THERE'S GONNA BE A, A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT'S A LITTLE LOW, BUT IT WOULD BE LOW WITHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING, UM, THE TRAFFIC GENERATED FROM THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING DIDN'T EVEN MEET OUR THRESHOLD.
SO THE REASON WE HAD THEM DO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THAT, THOSE ISSUES.
UM, AND SO IT'S BELOW OUR THRESHOLD, BUT REALLY IT WAS JUST TO IDENTIFY THOSE ISSUES.
IF THERE WERE ANY LOOK AT A SIGNAL,
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WHICH THEY DID AND DIDN'T MEET WARRANTS BECAUSE OF THE SPACING AND BECAUSE OF THE SIDE STREET CAPACITY.BUT REALISTICALLY, WHEN I DRIVE AND WHEN I SEE, LIKE A COMMISSIONER MADDEN SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF TRAFFIC OVER THERE.
AND KIND OF GOING OFF WHAT RASHAD SAID, IT IS FLANKED BY TWO INTERSTATES OR TWO HIGHWAYS.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF RELIEF ROUTES FOR WHEN THERE'S HEAVY TRAFFIC TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THESE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
WE WANT, WE WANT CARS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THOSE FREEWAYS, STATE HIGHWAY 1 61, THE TOLL ROAD, AND BE ABLE TO EXIT THE AREA AND COME BACK TO THE AREA WITH NUMEROUS OPTIONS.
IF IT, IT WAS ONLY ROBINSON, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SCENARIO THAT WE HAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER FOUR SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 0.
IT'S A, UH, SUP INSIGHT PLAN FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT CALLED BOJANGLES AT, UH, 31 62.
SO THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING KOHLS.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.
SO THE BOJANGLES, IT'S, UM, THEY SPECIALIZE IN COUNTRY, UH, CAJUN FRIED CHICKEN AND BUTTER BISCUIT.
APPARENTLY THEY STARTED IT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THEY'RE EXPANDING INTO TEXAS MARKET.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A ONE OPEN LOCATION IN ELI, AND THEY'RE OPENING TWO MORE LOCATIONS, ONE IN LANCASTER, TEXAS AND ONE THE OTHER IN FRISCO, TEXAS.
UM, WITH THAT, THEY'RE PROPOSING A, UM, ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH LANES MERGING INTO ONE.
AS THEY PICK UP THE ORDER, THEY DO MEET THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT, AND THEY DID PROVIDE THE, UH, PARKING THAT IS REQUIRED.
THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLANTED, SHOWN THEY HAD PLANTED, UM, TREES ALL ALONG THE 1 61 FRONTAGE ROAD.
SO THIS WILL, UM, BE KIND OF FRONTAGE ROAD THAT YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET ONTO 1 61.
HOWEVER, THEY PROVIDE A PRETTY DECENT NUMBER OF TREES HERE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PROTOTYPE.
THEY ACTUALLY WORK WITH US, UM, WITH THEIR ORIGINAL SITE, UM, BUILDING DESIGN.
THEY HAVE SWITCHED IT TO PROPOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE MASON, UM, BRICK AND STONE MATERIALS.
SO THEY ARE USING TWO DIFFERENT COLORS OF BRICK AND THEY ARE, UM, REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE OVERALL WINDOW AREA REQUIREMENT.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING THESE, UM, WHAT THEY CALL IT, A, UH, CLEAR STORY WINDOWS.
SO EXTRA GLAZING ON TOP OF THE CANOPY JUST TO COMPLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEY ARE PROVIDING TWO MURALS.
SO, UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE FOR OVERALL PERCENTAGE, THE, THE WINDOWS, BUT STAFF DOES NOT HAVE, UM, ANY OBJECTION TO THAT.
SO, CONTINUING ON, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE MANUAL ITEMS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY APPENDIX F.
UM, AGAIN, I, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE REQUESTING OVERALL WINDOW PERCENTAGE VARIANCES.
HOWEVER, IF YOU, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THEY HAVE PROVIDE, UH, PLENTY OF GLAZING AND OPENING, ESPECIALLY IN THE SERVICE AREA FOR THE CUSTOMERS.
SO THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING WINDOWS ARE USUALLY FOR THE KITCHENS, THEIR STOCKROOM, THEIR REFRIGERATOR.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT BY, UH, PROVIDING MURALS AND OTHER MEANS OF, UH, WINDOWS AND SPARE DOOR GLASSES.
SO THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UM, THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MR. MANN.
SO JUNE, YOU MENTIONED A CLEAR STORY WINDOW, BUT IT ACTUALLY SAYS A FAUX WINDOW, WHICH WOULD BE A FAKE WINDOW.
SO CLEAR STORY WINDOW JUST DEFINES A WINDOW THAT'S USUALLY TYPICALLY ABOVE, ABOVE WINDOW, A TYPICAL WINDOW THAT KIND OF ALLOWS SKYLIGHTS MM-HMM
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY UNDERSTAND THE TEXAS HEAT
SO WE DO ALLOW SPAN DRILL GLASSES IN OUR ORDINANCES.
SO THESE ARE THE COMPENSATORY MEASURES.
THESE ARE THE ADDITIONAL WINDOWS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IN PART WITH THE MURALS.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH OUR STANDARD.
SO THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE NUMBER AS WRITTEN.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINEAR FEED OF THE PROVIDER WINDOWS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY FAIRLY CLOSE TO THAT 50% NUMBER.
BUT AS A COMPENSATORY MEASURE, THEY'RE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER BLACK BEAR DINER, WE ALLOWED THEM TO DO MURALS AND JUST DO A SOLID WALL BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE WOULD NOT, THEY DON'T REALLY NEED THE OPENING.
IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE SHAKE SHACK, THEY HAD THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY WERE NEXT TO THE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOWS AND KITCHEN, AND THEY COULD NOT JUST HAVE THE WINDOW.
SO THIS IS THEIR ALTERNATIVES.
THIS, THIS IS NOT GLASS, THIS IS AN ALTERED SURFACE.
SO IT'S A SURFACES THAT'S IN THE SHAPE OF A WINDOW.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A G IT'S A GLASS, BUT IT WILL NOT BE, UH, OPENED TRANSPARENT.
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YEAH.DOES IT SOUND LIKE IT'S JUST A FACADE, SO TO SPEAK? KIND OF LIKE, RIGHT.
SO YES, IT WILL BE, YEAH, FROM THE OUTSIDE IT WILL LOOK LIKE A GLASS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, FROM THE INSIDE, YOU JUST SEE MORE A KIND OF A, I WOULD SAY LIKE A SCREENING OR SOME TYPE OF FINAL THAT WILL KIND OF BLOCK IT OUT.
YOU GO BACK, YOU SAY IT'S A, IT'S A DRIVE THROUGH AND A RESTAURANT MM-HMM
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE TO SEE SITE PLAN, HOW, YEAH.
HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PEOPLE DOING THE ORDERS? YES, MA'AM.
AND WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THEIR HOURS REST? YES, MA'AM.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE IN FRONT OF COASTS.
THEY'RE NOT NEAR ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE WE SEE THE RAISING CANES AT THE CORNER.
AND THOSE AREAS, SO STAFF FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY'RE, UM, SURROUNDED BY OTHER USES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN THE RETAIL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
IF THEY WERE LOCATED TRULY AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE LOOKED INTO.
SO WE'RE GETTING QUITE A FEW, UM, LIKE KIND OF SORT OF FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AT SOME POINT, ARE WE GONNA GET ANY MORE JUST STANDALONE, UH, STANDALONE A RESTAURANT, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AS WE KIND OF PROGRESS, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S LIKE A PERSON IS REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PD.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF AS WE GO, WE WILL JUST SEE PEOPLE COMING IN KIND OF NATURALLY DRAWN BY THE OTHER.
I DO HAVE BUSINESS, I HAVE A SIDEBAR QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY SENSE TO ASK IT NOW, BUT YOU CAN SLAP ME ON THE HAND.
I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE LAND THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA, COULD WE, THEY BRING IN LIKE A, A, AN ANNEX TO TCC OR SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES OR, UH, SOME KIND OF, UH, LITTLE LIKE COLLEGES, JUST SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL PIECE BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER IN THERE, THAT AREA MM-HMM
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS A UTA ANNEX OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT LITTLE CONGESTION AREA.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COULD ASSIST WITH TO TRY TO SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANY LOCATION AS FAR AS LAND REMAINING LAND, THAT THAT WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH.
UM, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, THAT IS OUR PREFERENCE.
THAT HAS BEEN COUNCIL'S PREFERENCE.
BUT AS WE GET THESE SMALLER REMNANT PARCELS, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO LOCATE SOME OF THESE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS PARKING WISE, UNLESS THEY DO A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY AT THIS POINT WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SUP, SO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROVE OR DENY IF YOU LIKE, A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER USES THAT COULD COME ALONG.
BUT THIS IS A, UM, A UNIQUE BUSINESS THAT'S EXPANDED INTO OUR METROPLEX.
SO I GUESS BE LEFT UP TO P AND Z AND COUNCIL.
OH, I, I, I BELIEVE ME BOJANGLES IS A GOOD RESTAURANT.
I WAS JUST ASKING THE QUESTION IN GENERAL.
ABOUT THE, UH, OTHER THINGS COMING OUT.
JUST, JUST FOR THE CLARIFICATION, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION, BUT THEY DO HAVE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SITTING.
IT'S JUST THAT, UM, THE FEST, THEY NEEDED THE DRIVE THROUGH FOR THEIR OPERATION.
CAN YOU SAY AGAIN, WHICH AREA? UH, THEY ALREADY HAVE LOCATION THAT YES, MA'AM.
SO I, UH, GOOGLED THEM
AND THEY HAVE ONE OPEN IN ULI.
UM, THEY'RE OPENING TWO, UH, ONE IN FRISCO, ONE IN LANCASTER.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE IN THE DFW METRO FOR NOW.
IT SAYS A LOT FOR US THEN TO BE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER FIVE SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 1.
THIS IS SUP INSIGHT PLAN, I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME, FOR LEARNING EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS A DAYCARE FACILITY WHICH YOU'LL BE LOCATED AT 1802 FORUM DRIVE.
SO KIND OF SITUATE YOU WHERE THESE ARE.
UM, IT'S RIGHT EAST OF, UM, I BELIEVE ABILLA IN THE CBJ TOWN HOMES TO THE NORTH AND RA MULTI-FAMILY.
THERE'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR, UH, REVIEWS AND CONSTRUCTIONS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THEY ARE PROPOSING A DAYCARE CENTER RIGHT AT THIS CORNER AS SHOWN.
SO THEY ARE PROVIDING ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR SO FACILITY THAT CAN HOLD UP TO ABOUT 180 STUDENTS.
UM, THEY'LL PLAN TO HAVE ABOUT 20 TEACHERS AND STAFF COMBINED.
THEY DO MEET THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THEY DO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
THEY DID PROVIDE THE, UH, PLANT GROUND PER ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, THEY DID PROVIDE THE LANDSCAPE AS SHOWN AND MEETS OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT.
ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU, SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER THAN I EXPECTED, BUT TO THE NORTH PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ABUTTING A PD THAT'S DESIGNED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING BASED ZONING, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE A PD, THAT'S THEIR USE.
UM, THE UDC REQUIRES THEM TO PROVIDE A WALL THERE, BUT AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS LITTLE CIRCLE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM
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THEM, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, THE TRAIL FOR THE MULTIFAMILY TERMINATES.SO, UH, BASED ON DISCUSSION WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT PLANNING WANTED TO ACTUALLY, UM, REQUEST THE APPLICANT CONSIDER NOT PUTTING A WALL THERE BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT SEE THE TRAIL OR THEY MIGHT THINK THE TRAIL IS ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH THEY ARE, BUT IT'S FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO THAT WAY IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF BRINGS ON THE WALL LITERALLY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO FEEL THIS TRAIL IS ACCESSIBLE FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT STEPH KIND OF INITIATED WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, TO BRING BEFORE YOU.
SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS WITH THIS RETAIL CENTER, THERE WILL BE A WALL HERE, BUT WHEN, SINCE THIS IS A CAD COMMUNITY FOR THESE TOWNHOUSES, WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING THIS TRAIL, THEY'LL KNOW AND OH, I CAN PROBABLY WALK THERE TOO BECAUSE IT'S OPEN AND IT'S A SIDEWALK.
SO THEY ARE MEETING OUR, UM, BUILDING MATERIAL REQUIREMENT.
THEY HAVE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT COLORS AND DIFFERENT SCHEME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING, UM, OUR MATERIAL REQUIREMENT.
ONE THING I DO WANNA POINT OUT, THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCE FOR THE WINDOW GLAZING PRESENT AS WELL.
UM, I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY SAID PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE A DAYCARE FACILITY, FIRE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A LOT OF WINDOWS
SO WITH THAT COMES WHERE THEY, SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WINDOWS AND DOORS, THEY WERE LIMITED ON WHERE THEY CAN PUT THE CANOPY UNLESS THEY WANTED TO PUT A CANOPY BELOW BLINK WALL FOR NO, FOR NO REASON.
SO THOSE TWO VARIANCES ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY HAVE MET THE APPENDIX F CHECKLIST REQUIREMENT.
THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES, WHICH I KIND OF WENT OVER, WHICH IS ONE LIVE SCREENING.
SO INSTEAD OF PROVIDING THAT WITH FENCE THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, WE ARE SAYING, HEY, UH, PLEASE PUT SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, LANDSCAPE, UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THEIR PLAYGROUND WALL.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE THINKING THEY, UM, ARE VOLUNTARY PRO VOLUNTARILY PROVIDING THREE TREES.
WE'RE SAYING, HEY, MAYBE YOU CAN, UM, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING HINGES OR LIVE SCREENINGS ON THE OTHER TREES, KIND OF MIX WITH IT SO THAT IT NATURALLY CREATES THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE, UH, PLAYGROUND AND THE, UH, TRAIL CONNECTION.
AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE OVERALL WINDOWS TO ACCOUNT FOR 44% IN INSTEAD OF 50%.
AND, UH, CANNABIS TO ACCOUNT FOR 11% INSTEAD OF 25%.
AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS.
THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER? ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
THATAM, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER.
IS THIS THE, THE, THE DAYCARE THAT'S FOR SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
THIS IS JUST A REGULAR YES, MA'AM.
ARE THEY AFFILIATED WITH ANY OTHER, UM, UH, SCHOOLS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REALLY CONNECTED WITH ANY, UH, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS OR ANY SCHOOLS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, UH, THE SAME BRAND.
SO I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF MORE OF A FRANCHISED.
SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN MANSFIELD, UM, RIGHT ON 360 AND BROAD STREET THAT ARE, THAT ARE, IT'S KIND OF CLOSE, IT'S BUILT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER SIX IS SUP REQUEST FOR SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 4.
THIS IS THE SUP FOUR OUTSIDE STORAGE FOR AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE.
SO THIS WAREHOUSE WAS BUILT AS LIKE A ONE SITE PLAN FOR TWO LOTS.
THEY'RE, UM, ASKING IF THEIR TENANT WHO PLANS ON OCCUPYING THE ENTIRE BUILDING CAN UTILIZE SOME OF THESE PAVED SURFACES FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE BECAUSE IT'S ON OUTSIDE STORAGE ACCESSORY USE.
UM, IT REQUIRES SUP APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BEING BROUGHT TO YOU.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, KIND OF A, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA NEXT TO THE BUILDING AND ACROSS THIS MASON WALL AND TREES, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THEY ARE.
AND I CAN GO OVER THAT IN MORE LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS I GO ALONG.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SCREEN THESE AREAS AND ALLOW OUR TENANT? UM, THEY SPECIALIZE IN TELECOMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE, MEANING THEY HAVE ROLES OF CABLES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY TAKE OUT TO THE SITE AND THEY USE FOR CONSTRUCTING THOSE NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT WITH THAT, BUT I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE HERE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT AND SHOW SOME PICTURES.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING SUP AND PROPO PROPOSING TO PUT, UH, WOOD SCREENING FENCES ALL AROUND.
SO THIS IS THE SECTIONAL DRAWING THAT WAS PROVIDED DURING THE ZONING PROCESS, I BELIEVE.
SO INITIALLY WHEN THIS WAREHOUSES WERE COMING, I THINK PART OF THE EFFORT WAS TO HELP THESE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND, HEY, OUR WAREHOUSES WILL BE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM YOU.
I THINK THEY ACTUALLY LITERALLY SAID IT'S GONNA BE A
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SIZE OF A, UH, FOOTBALL FIELD.SO, UM, WITH THE, SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED AS SHOWN IN BLUE, A SIX FOOT NATIONALLY SCREENING WALL AND A ROT IRON FENCE WITHOUT THE BRICK COLUMNS TO THE SOUTH.
UM, NEXT TO THE, UH, THE SHOT WALL, UH, CREATION CENTER.
SO THEY'RE SAYING FOR THE OUTSIDE STORAGE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A WOOD FENCE.
THIS IS A VARIANCE BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES WOOD FENCE WITH MOWING STRIP.
SO MOWING STRIP IS A LITTLE BUMP OF A CONCRETE THAT ALLOWS YOUR, UH, GRASS, UH, CUTTING MOWING MACHINE TO KIND OF CUT, CUT CLOSE TO THE FENCE.
BUT, UH, CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF PAVED AREA, STEPH THERE DIDN'T REALLY FEEL THE NEED FOR THEM TO HAVE A MOWING STRIP.
SO STEPH DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TOTAL OF TWO VARIANCES.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE FENCE TYPE AS I MENTIONED.
UM, STEPH DOESN'T OBJECT TO THAT.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE MAXIMUM AREA.
SO THIS IS, UM, BASED ON THEIR ZONING LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL ZONING, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED EITHER 30% OF THE BUILDING SIZE OR 15% OF THE OVERALL LOT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING, I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE THING AND THOUGHT, HEY, MAYBE WE CAN MEET THE 15%, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE IT AS JUST THE SLOT.
SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT ABOUT AT 26%.
SO STEPH DID NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS REQUEST ONLY BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE LOCATION THAT THEY'RE IN.
TYPICALLY, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ONE, UM, IS IT SCREENED PROPERLY AND TWO, IS IT FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE, UM, QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING SCREENING, BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE WOOD SCREENING ON TOP OF THAT, STAFF FELT THAT THIS, UM, VARIANCE WAS SOMETHING THAT STUFF DIDN'T, UH, MIND SUPPORTING AT THIS TIME.
UM, THE, AS I GET, AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
SO YOU CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
UM, AT THIS TIME, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER? ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER? UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ON THAT ONE.
YOU DID REALLY GOOD WITH THAT.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SUP 23 0 5 0 0 1 7 IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EVENT CENTER LOCATED AT 2 9 8 5 SOUTH HIGHWAY 360.
SO THIS IS AN EXISTING, UH, COMMERCIAL SHOP THERE.
UM, IT IS ZONED CURRENTLY PD 1 37 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL.
SO IT'S A 4,900 SQUARE FOOT SUITE ON A ACRE THAT'S, OR A PARCEL THAT'S 10.49 ACRES.
IT IS WITHIN OUR CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
HOWEVER YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ZONING LAND USE CHART THAT THE SURROUNDING CURRENT, UH, USE IS REALLY OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT SUITE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE PROPOSED SUITE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE OVERALL SITE THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR US.
SO WE'RE EXPECTING EVENT TYPES OF GRADUATIONS, ANNIVERSARIES, BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS, PRETTY TYPICAL STUFF.
UM, AND PER THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED THE ORIGINAL SUITE, THERE WAS UM, GUARANTEED 56 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS MUCH MORE THAN IS REQUIRED.
SO THEY ARE EXPECTING UP TO 200 ATTENDEES.
THIS IS THE PROVIDED SITE PLAN OR PROVIDED FLOOR PLAN FOR THIS SPECIFIC SUITE.
SO THEY'RE EXPECTING UP TO 200 ATTENDEES.
THE EVENT HOURS WILL BE DAILY FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 AM SO FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGES, THEY'RE ALLOWING CATERING COMPANIES OR WHOEVER'S RENTING IT OUT TO BRING FOOD THEMSELVES.
THEY WON'T BE WRITING ANY FOOD.
UM, AS FAR AS UM, ALCOHOL, THEY ARE REQUIRING A LICENSED BARTENDER, SO IT WILL BE BYOB, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRING A LICENSED BARTENDER TO BE THERE AND SERVING THE ALCOHOL.
UM, FOR SECURITY THEY ARE REQUIRING TWO OR THEY ARE GONNA PROVIDE TWO LICENSED SECURITY OFFICERS AND THEY WILL HAVE A FLOOR MANAGER THERE FROM THE SPECIAL EVENT CENTER.
AND THERE WILL BE AN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.
SO THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SOME PHOTOS JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL AN IDEA OF WHAT THE INTERIOR LOOKS LIKE.
SO THEY AREN'T REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
AND DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
SO THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE BUILDING SPRINKLED ACCORDING TO FIRE CODES.
OPERATION SHALL COMPLY WITH SECTION 4 1 4 OF THE UDC AND THE APPLICANT SHALL POST SIGNAGE THAT INFORMS GUESTS BY ENTERING THE FACILITY.
THEY'RE AGREEING TO BE AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDED.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATIONS AND BAIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
SO, WHICH I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, WHICH, WHICH SPACE? IS IT THE FREEDOM CHURCH? YES, IT WAS THE FREEDOM CHURCH, YES.
'CAUSE UH, THE DRAWING, I KNOW IT'S SKETCHED.
IT DOESN'T MATCH THE CURVES AND THE MOVEMENT AND THE FREEDOM CHURCH.
SO I WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHERE WE WERE LOOKING.
AND THEN, SO IT'S CURRENTLY NOT SPRINKLED AND YOU'RE REQUIRING IT DUE TO FIRE CODE CAPACITY FIRE.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S 4 1 4 OF THE UDC REQUIRES OVER A HUNDRED.
SO IT'S BEEN SPRINKLED OR THEY COULD DO OTHER MEASURES.
THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHENEVER THEY GO THROUGH FOR FURTHER.
SEE OTHER MEASURES ARE AVAILABLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
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UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THESE COME UP BEFORE US.HAS IT BEEN ANY, THE, THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? UH, THE PERSON IN CHARGE.
IS GONNA BE THERE FROM OPEN TO CLOSE WHENEVER THERE'S AN EVENT.
THERE WILL BE A FLOOR MANAGER, YES.
AND THE FLOOR MANAGER, IS IT A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN A FLOOR MANAGER BEFORE? I COULD NOT SAY, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER THAT.
QUESTIONER COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, FACILITY FOR THIS, UH, UH, THIS BUSINESS.
IS THIS THEIR FIRST, UH, I KNOW OF IN THE CITY, BUT AGAIN, YOU, YOU HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT JUST TO BE CERTAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S UP BRENT? I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TIME I FINALLY GAVE YOU ALL A PRESENTATION.
UM, ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE CPA 23 0 5 0 0 1 10.
THIS IS FOR SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO, UM, IS AMEND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, TO ALTER THE ALIGNMENT OF AN EXISTING PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL SIX LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY.
THIS ROADWAY WAS PUT IN WITH THE SOUTHGATE 360 CORRIDOR PLAN ON OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, INTEREST FROM DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA TO BUILD THE ROADWAY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO ALIGN THE CURRENT THOROUGHFARE PLAN WITH THOSE DESIGN DRAWINGS FROM THE ENGINEER.
SO REALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING THE EXISTING ROADWAY AND SHIFTING IT OVER TO THE EAST.
SO WHAT, AND THAT WILL PROVIDE A, ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION FOR THAT SUBDIVISION TO HELP GET TRAFFIC OFF OF, UH, US 2 87.
UH, WE SENT OUT 27 LETTERS AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, ON THE MAP YOU CAN SEE THE PARCEL OUTLINE THERE.
UH, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT, SO THE RED LINE, THE RED DOTTED LINE IS THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT THAT WE HAD AND THE GREEN IS THE NEW ALIGNMENT.
THAT'S VV JONES ROAD, WHICH IS DOWN, IT GOES PAST OUR, UH, ETJ INTO THE CITY OF VENUS.
UM, AND THAT PARCEL'S RIGHT THERE ON THAT, ON THAT LINE.
SO, UM, WE DID GET A, A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM THEM.
UH, DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THIS AMENDMENT.
WELL, MR. BRETT
THAT IS WHERE THE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHAT IS IT? NOT THE, LIKE AN HR BUILDING OR WHAT IS IT CALLED? NOT HR BUILDING.
WHAT FORGOT THE NAME OF THE BUILDING YOU WERE GONNA PUT THERE.
NO, I MEAN THIS IS PART OF A MAJOR OVERALL PROJECT.
SOUTHGATE NX ANN, AN ANNEX FOR GRAND PRAIRIE.
THE SOUTHGATE PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA RIGHT.
HAVE A, UH, POSSIBLY A NEW TOWN CENTER DOWN THERE.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT AREA WAS.
ANN IS STILL DEVELOPING MM-HMM
UM, SO SOUTHGATE ACTUALLY, THIS, THIS BOULEVARD, IT ACTUALLY STOPPED ABOUT HALFWAY ALONG THIS LINE OF WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE DESIGN PLANS FOR EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT IS STILL CONCEPTUAL AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST MOVING OVER THE ALIGNMENT TO MATCH THAT NORTHERN SECTION.
THE REST WILL FOLLOW GENERALLY WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.
UM, SO NO PLANS ANYWHERE, UH, SOUTH PRETTY MUCH OF WHAT THE EXISTING PRAIRIE RIDGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS AT, AT THE MOMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YEAH.
UM, SO JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHEN WE GO TO PLAN THIS ROAD, AND I CAN SEE IT'S MUCH STRAIGHTER THAN IT WAS ORIGINALLY WITH THE RED, DO YOU GUYS NOT TRY TO CONFORM TO THE PROPERTY LINES? 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY CROSSING IN, ARE THERE HOMES IN THE WAY OF THIS? SO A LOT OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S FROM 360 SOUTH HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED BY ONE DEVELOPER.
AND THAT'S THE ONE WHO'S BUILDING THE ROADWAY.
SO THEY'RE DESIGNING THE NEW SUBDIVISION AROUND THIS ROADWAY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING.
I JUST DON'T WANNA BE LIKE, YEAH.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S FIVE FAMILIES THAT ARE GONNA BE TORN DOWN.
I I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE PROPERTY THAT THIS ROADWAY WILL BE GOING THROUGH IS ALREADY OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER.
THIS IS A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT? YES.
AND THEN THEY'VE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME, UH, TO WORK THROUGH AND A LOT OF THE, UH, DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT.
SO WHAT, FROM WHAT I SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND NOTIFIED EVERYONE, REGARDLESS IF THEY WERE IN THE CITY LIMITS OR IN THE ETJ OR NOT.
UM, ANYONE WHO WAS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THAT ROADWAY, WE WENT AHEAD AND NOTIFIED.
UM, SO IN THIS AREA OF THIS PROPERTY, WE DO HAVE, IT IS PARTIALLY IN THE ETJ, UM,
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BUT IT, IT'S NOT WITHIN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS AND PART OF IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE ETJ.SO THE ONE OPPOSITION, IT'S A RESIDENT OR WAS IT THE CITY OR? IT WAS A RESIDENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
AND THEN, SO D-C-D-R-C RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THAT ONE.
THE NEXT ONE, UH, ITEM NINE CPA 23 0 5 0 0 9.
UH, MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AMENDMENT FOR STATE HIGHWAY 360 EXTENSION.
SO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO ON THIS IS WE'RE WANTING TO ADD BACK THE STATE HIGHWAY 360 EXTENSION THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
UM, WHEN THE SOUTH GATE 360 PLAN WAS ADOPTED, WE REMOVED THAT EXTENSION AND MADE IT PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL SIX LANE DIVIDED THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL TALKS WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS AT NCT COG, UH, TXDOT, THE COUNTIES.
AND SO THIS PROJECT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE STEAM.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS PUT IT BACK ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, TO CONFORM WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PLANS AROUND US AND REALLY SHOW THAT THIS IS A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE WE THINK THIS ROADWAY WILL GO.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO PLANS TO BUILD THIS.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY IN THE WORKS EXCEPT FOR TALKS AT THIS POINT.
UH, THIS ROADWAY COULD BE 10, 15, 20 YEARS OUT.
UM, BUT I, SO I WANTED TO PREFACE THAT WITH SAYING THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS REALLY JUST AN IDEA OF WHERE WE THINK WE'LL NEED A, A ROADWAY IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE MAP JUST TO HAVE THIS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS, AS WE NEED MORE ROADWAYS IN THE AREA TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE THINK THIS ROADWAY MIGHT GO.
SO LIKE I SAID, JUST PUTTING IT BACK ON THE MAP TO, TO HAVE IT ON OUR LONG-TERM PLAN MM-HMM
AND SO WE SENT OUT 45 LETTERS.
UM, AS PART OF THIS NOTIFICATION, WE RECEIVED SIX LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
I MARKED THOSE IN PURPLE ON THE MAP.
UH, WE DID LEAD RECEIVE NINE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, MOST OF THOSE CAME, UM, AFTER THIS MAP WAS PUT TOGETHER.
UH, BUT THE ONE THAT WE HAD BEFORE, UH, IS MARKED THERE IN GREEN, AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO HOW LONG AGO WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN IN PLACE? I, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS REMOVED, BUT HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? DO YOU KNOW? SO IT WAS AT LEAST ON THE 2015 PLAN.
IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS ON BEFORE THAT AS WELL, BUT IT FOLLOWED MORE OF A STRAIGHT DOWN ALIGNMENT MM-HMM
AND SO WITH THE NEW SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE GOING IN, THE IDEA IS THAT WE THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE FURTHER WEST, UM, TO KIND OF SNAKE THROUGH SOME OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND GO DOWN TO US 67.
SO THE ALIGNMENT BEING SHOWN, UH, AVOIDS A LOT OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM
UM, AND IT WAS PUT IN THAT WAY, UM, BY DESIGN MM-HMM
BUT AS I SAID, THERE ARE NO DESIGNS FOR THIS ROADWAY.
THIS IS JUST A GUESS OF WHERE WE THINK IT MIGHT GO.
UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS OR DEVELOPMENT COMES AFTER THIS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
I I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DECISION.
I WAS THAT COLLABORATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS OR WAS THAT JUST A CITY THING? YOU GUYS JUST DECIDED TO GET AHEAD OF IT? IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, HOW MUCH GROWTH WE'RE SEEING DOWN THERE, WE HAVE EXPANSIONS COMING TO 2 87 THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE ON NOW.
UH, WE HAVE THE EXTENSION OF SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPER ON.
AND SO THIS REALLY IS JUST LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL AND, AND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND SEEING WHAT MAKES SENSE.
SO IT'S EASIER TO, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER YOU THE SAME, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAYS GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
YOU COULD BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, 360, YOU KNOW, 67, YOU KNOW, 2 87 MAKES IT EASIER, YOU KNOW, THAN, THAN NOT HAVING TO KIND OF JUST WHIP IT UP REAL QUICK.
SO I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE? UH, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT, UH, ON AN UPCOMING P AND Z AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
SO THIS IS JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? SHE GOT
AT SIX 19, THE BRIEFING IS ADJOURNED AND WE'LL RECONVENE AT 6:30 PM THANK YOU.
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WELCOME TO[Call to Order]
THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE MEETING OF JULY 24TH, 2023.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.
THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE CHERYL SMITH.
PETE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, FRANK GONZALEZ AND QUENTIN.
AND NOW WE WILL HAVE AN INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
AND THEN WE, I WILL GIVE THE LEAD ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
DEAR LORD, WE PRAY WE WILL HAVE A PRODUCTIVE MEETING TODAY.
WE PRAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE AND BE EFFICIENT IN HANDLING THEM.
WE PRAY YOU WILL GIVE US THE GRACE TO COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE AND MORALLY RIGHT SOLUTIONS THAT WE WILL BEST BENEFIT THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, THE RESIDENTS, THE VISITORS, AND THE BUSINESSES IN ARC TOWN.
LORD, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP A WATCHFUL EYES ON OUR PRECIOUS MAX COLEMAN WHO IS LEAVING US THIS EVENING.
THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING WITH US.
SO PLEASE KEEP AN EYE ON HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
LORD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US.
WE ASK EVERYTHING IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.
WELCOME ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC.
FOR VOICES STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL AND LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS BLACK.
I HAVE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVIDUAL.
IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS, THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO.
[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]
NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 10TH, 2023 PNZ MEETING AND ITEM TWO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC, UH, CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER MAX COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JULIE PEREZ.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.
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NEXT CASE, PLEASE.[3. STP-23-06-0012 - Site Plan - Pivotal Grand Prairie (City Council District 2). Site Plan for a multi-family development with 305 units on 37.42 acres. Tracts 2 and 36, Stephen B McCommas Survey, Abstract No. 888, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development for Multi-Family, within the SH 161 and I-20 Corridor Overlay Districts, and addressed as 1900 IH 20 and 3900 Robinson Rd]
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A SITE PLAN FOR PIVOTAL RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S LOCATED OFF OF ROBINSON ROAD AND BOUNDED BY I 20 AND 1 61.
THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 305 UNITS ON ABOUT 37 ACRES.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN ON, ON THE SCREEN.
AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE ZONING FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, CAME IN RECENTLY.
AND SO THE SITE PLAN, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVIEW IS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S COMPLYING WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, THERE'S 305 UNITS PROPOSED IN SEVEN BUILDINGS.
THE PRIMARY ACCESS IS OFF OF ROBINSON ROAD.
THERE IS EMERGENCY ACCESS AND ACCESS FOR TRACK TRASH PICKUP OFF OF 1 61 VIA THE, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
THE PROPOSAL DOES MEET OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITH ONE EXCEPTION.
YOU CAN SEE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
I WILL POINT OUT THAT ON THE PLAN AND THE GREEN CLOUDED AREAS, THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THEY'VE GOT THEIR, THEIR DOG PARKS, THEIR POOL AREAS, AND OTHER AMENITIES.
THE PROPOSAL IS MEETING OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S MEETING OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
THEY DO REQUIRE VARIANCES FOR THEIR FENCE, WHICH I'LL GO INTO DETAIL IN A MOMENT.
AS PART OF ANY REQUEST, UH, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO A TREE SURVEY OF ALL OF THE TREES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE DOES REQUIRE THAT, UH, CA A CERTAIN CALIPER TREE OR CALIPER INCH OF TREE, UH, THAT'S DESIRABLE, BE PRESERVED OR MITIGATED.
AND SO THEY ARE REMOVING 769 CALIPER INCHES OF THOSE PROTECTED TREES, AND THEY ARE MITIGATING IT IN SEVERAL WAYS.
THE FIRST IS THEIR PRESERVING DESIRABLE TREES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THOSE EIGHT CALIPER INCHES.
AND THEN FINALLY, THEY ARE PAYING TREE MITIGATION FEES INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THE MATERIALS INCLUDE STONE AND FIBER, CEMENT SIDING.
THE DESIGN ELEMENTS INCLUDE CHANGES AND COLORS AND MATERIALS.
AND THEN BUILDING ARTICULATION.
I WILL PO POINT OUT THAT THEY DO NOT MEET THE APPENDIX W DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE DO, UH, PUT A CAP ON OF 60%.
SO MATERIAL COLOR OR, UM, CERTAIN TEXTURE CANNOT EXCEED 60%.
SO THEY DO HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS THAT ARE EXCEEDING THAT.
THIS IS AN IMAGE SHOWING A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT FROM THE ENTRY POINT.
SINCE THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE APPENDIX W DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE AMENITIES FROM ALL THREE CATEGORIES.
AND THEY ARE MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
THE FIRST IS FOR THE SETBACK FOR GARAGES AND CARPORTS.
THE, THERE'S A 10 FOOT SETBACK REQUIRED, AND THEY'RE ASKING THAT SOME OF THE GARAGES AND CARPORTS BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH A FOUR FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE INTERNAL AND 1 61 PROPERTY LINE.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE REQUESTED THAT.
UH, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO THEIR FENCING MATERIAL ALONG 1 61.
THE IMAGE, THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN SHOWS THAT LOCATION IN BLUE.
UH, SINCE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE REQUIRE A TYPE TWO FENCE WITH, WHICH IS ROT IRON WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A WOOD SCREENING FENCE INSTEAD.
UH, THEY DID PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF IMAGES SHOWING WHAT, UH, THE BUILDING PLACEMENT AND PROPOSED WOODEN FENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, PART OF THEIR RATIONALE BEHIND THIS IS THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIGNS AND BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE, THE STREET, THEIR FINAL VARIANCE IS TO THE NORTHERN, UH, PROPERTY LINE LOCATION.
WE REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE A TYPE THREE FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OF ANY, UH, ZONING TYPE THAT'S NOT SINGLE FAMILY OR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING PROPERTY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT TO THE NORTH THAT HAS CONSTRUCTED A FENCE, AND YOU CAN SEE AN IMAGE OF THAT ON THE SCREEN.
THEY'VE GOT THE RETAINING WALL AND THEN THE WOODEN FENCE.
UH, THIS VARIANCE THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST TO ALLOW THEM TO NOT HAVE TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITIONAL FENCE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.
SO INSTEAD, THEY WOULD TIE INTO THAT EXISTING FENCE.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT CONSTRUCT THAT WOODEN FENCE ALONG 1 61 WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.
THE MASONRY COLUMNS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE TYPE TWO, AND STAFF THINKS THAT THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING ALONG WITH ROBINSON, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.
SO THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF FENCE, REMIND ME, WOULD THIS HAVE THE CONCRETE, UM, MO OR THAT CONCRETE FOOTER ALONG THE BOTTOM TOO? YES.
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DURING, OKAY.IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE.
DO WE HAVE THE NEED? SO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD AND IT'S A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE APPLICANT.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M WITH CESO ENGINEERS, UH, 50, UH, 8,700 FREEPORT PARKWAY, UH, IRVING, TEXAS.
UH, AND I'VE NOT PREPARED A PRESENTATION.
I THINK WHAT, UH, THE CITY HAS PUT TOGETHER IS, UH, TELLS, TELLS THE STORY OF OUR PROJECT.
BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO CONSTRUCT, UH, THESE UNITS AND THERE'S ALWAYS APARTMENTS ALREADY UP CLOSE TO THEM.
SO, UH, THE MARKETING STUDIES SHOWED THAT, UH, THERE WAS STILL A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS, YOU THINK, IN THAT AREA? OH, YEAH.
THIS, THIS IS A VERY, UH, A VERY GOOD AREA.
SO, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS, UH, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER AS THE ENGINEER, BUT, UH, HE FINDS THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD SPOT FOR THE TYPE OF PRODUCT, UH, THAT HE BUILDS, WHICH IS A HIGHER END PRODUCT THAT TENDS TO FIT ON DIFFICULT SIZE PIECES OF PROPERTY.
SO THIS, THIS PRODUCT, THIS, THIS UNIT, UH, WHAT IS THE GOING PRICE FOR THE, UH, UNITS? I'M NOT SURE I CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THAT.
I THINK HE HAD ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
UH, SO PERHAPS SAVANNAH, COULD YOU NO, THAT, THAT'S FINE.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION, I, IT IS A MARKET RATE AND IT IS COMPARABLE TO THE OTHER APARTMENTS ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, I THINK.
THE ONLY THING THAT I SAW THEN, LOOKING AT IT, IF YOU COULD PUT UP, UH, SAVANNAH, THE ACTUAL UNITS AGAIN, IT LOOKS LIKE, IS THERE, IS THAT FOUR STORIES? YES.
AND, AND MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT, UH, MAKING SURE NOBODY CAN SEE ANYBODY ELSE'S WINDOWS.
I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE OTHER UNITS IS, SO I GUESS THE PROXIMITY OF THE TWO UNITS ARE LONG WAYS AWAY, OR, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE, THERE'S MATERIAL AS FAR AS THE, THE EXISTING PROJECT TO THE NORTH MM-HMM
THERE IS ONLY, UH, I BELIEVE THE END OF ONE BUILDING THAT IS EVEN IN, UH, ANY KIND OF WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE LOOKED AT AS A NEAR PROXIMITY.
UH, THE REST OF THEM ARE ALL SEPARATED BY THE PARKING AISLES AND PARKING YEAH.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THE PRI PRIVACY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, MY QUESTION, UH, IS THE, UH, LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEARBY WILL BE, WHICH ELEMENTARY DO WE KNOW? FLORENCE HILL.
MY WONDERING QUESTION, UM, IS, DOES FLORENCE HILL KNOW THAT THE POSSIBLE 305 ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE COMING UP? IS IT AS A COURTESY FOR US TO LET THEM KNOW, OR USUALLY IS THE, UH, USUALLY ALL THAT NOTIFICATION'S DONE WITH THE ZONING CHANGE? THIS IS THE, JUST THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE'RE REVIEWING MORE DETAILED PLANS TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THAT ZONING.
THAT WOULD AFFECT THE, UH, TRAFFIC AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? IT LOOKS LIKE A, A, A BEAUTIFUL UNIT.
I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, LOCATIONS IN THE AREA DFW AREA? NOT, NOT IN THE, UH, IMMEDIATE NEAR FUTURE.
WE DON'T, I MEAN, DO YOU, I MEAN, SO IT ARE ANY OTHER PRO AND THE PROXIMITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER UNITS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED? NO, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED, UH, WITHIN THE DFW AREA, YOUR FIRST VISIT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
AND I DID WANT TO ADD THAT, THAT, UH, WE, WE ARE, UH, WE ARE WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, OF STAFF ON THE FENCING ALONG ONE, UH, 1 21 OR 1 61.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO DISCUSSION.
CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOVE TO CLOSE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON STP 23 0 6 0 0 1 2, AND, UM, MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITH THE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, OR THE PROPOSED VARIANCES, UM, AND RECOMMENDATION BY DRC.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM THREE STP 23 0 6 0 0 1 2 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN,
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A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[4. SUP-23-06-0020 – Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Bojangles at 3162 S Hwy 161 (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a Restaurant with a Drive-Through on 0.955 acres. Lot 10, Block A, Epic East Towne Crossing Phase II, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-364, within the SH 161 and IH 20 Corridor Overlay Districts, and addressed as 3162 S Hwy 161]
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 0.
THIS IS A SUP AND SITE PLAN FOR BOJANGLES RESTAURANT.
SO THE PROPOSED BOJANGLES IS LOCATED, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE 1 61 IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING KOHL'S.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CONSERVE A 3000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THEY ARE MEETING OUR, UH, DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT AND ALSO PARKING REQUIREMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT AND THE LAYOUT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH THEY ARE MEETING THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT IS SHOWN.
THEY ARE PROVIDING THE REQUEST STREET TREES ALONG THE SURFACE ROAD OF 1 61 IS SHOWN.
THIS IS THE PURPOSE ELEVATION.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE FOR THE, UH, WINDOW PERCENTAGES.
THEY NEED TO PROVIDE EITHER 50% OF THE AREA OR THE 50% OF THE HORIZONTAL LENGTH, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO, UH, PROVIDE COMPENSATORY MEASURE FOR THE PERCENTAGES REDUCTION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
ONE IS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CLEAR STORY WINDOW, UH, WHICH HELPS WITH THE OVERALL AREA, BUT DOES NOT HELP WITH THE LENGTH, BUT, UM, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WINDOW OPENINGS, UM, SIMILAR TO THE SPAND GLASSES THAT WERE USED AND APPROVED IN THE OLIVE GARDEN AND OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE PREVIOUS BEFORE.
THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING TWO MURALS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED ON TOP OF THE FINISHED WALL JUST TO, UM, BREAK DOWN THE, UM, MORE FLAT SURFACES A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE APPENDIX F REQUIREMENT, PROVIDING 12.5 MENU ITEMS AS SHOWN.
UM, AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE VARIANCE FOR OVERALL WINDOWS, AS I HAVE MENTIONED THIS.
UH, THEY HAVE, UH, PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION ON WHERE THE, UH, PUBLIC WOULD BE ENTERING, WHICH IS THE FRONT ELEVATION TOP AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER, AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
THAT KIND OF OPENS UP THE WHOLE, UM, DINING AREA TO THE PUBLIC.
SO STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCES.
THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OH, I'M SORRY.
WE SENT OUT FOUR NOTIFICATIONS.
DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITION LETTERS OR SUPPORT LETTERS FOR THIS ITEM AS OF TO THIS MORNING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? GREAT JOB, JUNE.
UH, MATT, WE HAVE A, UH, SPEAKER CARDS.
UM, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, UH, FROM A PERSON HERE THAT'S, UH, THE SPOKESPERSON.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M WITH WINKELMAN AND ASSOCIATES, 67 50 HILLCREST PLAZA, SUITE TWO 15 DALLAS, 7 5 2 3 0.
UH, AS USUAL STAFF PRETTY MUCH DOES MY JOB AND GIVES A PRESENTATION ON EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING GOING.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YEAH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, DO YOU, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE, THE PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHWAY IS PRETTY DARN CLOSE.
UM, HVAC, IS IT ON THE ROOF OR ON THE GROUND? I'M JUST THINKING 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE ON FROM THE HIGHWAY FROM 1 61.
AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A VERY UNUSUAL FOR IT TO BE ON THE GROUND.
AND I'M, I, I, LET ME PREFACE THAT BY SAYING I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER, SO I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON THE SITE AND THE, THE LANDSCAPE, NOT NECESSARILY THE HVAC.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M JUST GRATEFUL TO SEE YOU COMING TO THE AREA AND, UM, UH, THAT WAS A GOOD CHOICE TO COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE.
HOW ARE YOUR OTHER SITES DOING AS FAR AS, UM, YOUR, THE BUSINESS PRODUCTIVITY? WHAT LITTLE I KNOW IS THAT THEY'RE DOING WELL, AND, AND WE'RE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX.
SO THAT BODES WELL FOR, FOR WHAT, WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT, I THINK.
HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE OVERALL? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? YOU KNOW, I DO.
BUT WE HAVE LIKE, WHAT, 10, MAYBE 10? OR IS IT LESS THAN 10 AND 10? I DON'T THINK IT'S LESS THAN 10 RIGHT NOW.
BUT I SUSPECT IT'S ON ITS WAY.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT DOES IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN WE GET A MOTION? OKAY.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEP 2 3 0 6 0 0 2 0 AND APPROVE, UM, THE PROPOSAL.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 0 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
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YES.[5. SUP-23-06-0021 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - The Learning Experience at 1802 S Forum Drive (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit and Site Plan for a Child Day Care Facility on 1.14 acres. A portion of Lot 1, Block 1, Slink Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-397, within the SH 161 and IH 20 Corridor Overlay Districts, and addressed as 1802 S Forum Drive]
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER FIVE.THIS IS AN SUP INSIGHT PLAN FOR THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS A, A CHILD DAYCARE FACILITY.
SO THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS SOUTH OF THE TOWNHOUSES AND TO THE WEST OF THE, UM, MULTIFAMILY THAT'S GOING THROUGH CONSTRUCTIONS RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING A SUP FOR THE DAYCARE FACILITY, UM, ON 1.14 ACRES.
UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING ABOUT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, FACILITY THAT CAN HOUSE ABOUT 180 STUDENTS AND ABOUT 20 TEACHERS AND STAFF MEMBERS.
THEY HAVE MET THE DENSITY AND THE, UH, DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT AND MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
UH, THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THE DAYCARE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY HAS.
SO THEY DID MEET THE LANDSCAPE, UM, AS REQUIRED, THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME VARIANCES, WHICH I'LL GO OVER MORE IN DETAIL.
THE FIRST VARIANCE I WANTED TO MENTION BEFORE WE GO INTO THE ELEVATIONS IS THAT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED BY STAFF BECAUSE, UH, THE ZONING, THE UDC REQUIRES THEM TO PUT A SOLID WITH SCREENING.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE PREVENTATIVE FOR, UM, THE PUBLIC TO USE THE, UM, TRAIL.
SO WE WANTED TO, UH, REQUEST A VARIANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE THEM SOME OTHER OPTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY NOT PROVIDE THAT SCREENING, BUT PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE, UH, LIVE SCREENING CLOSER TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IT, THE TRAIL, UM, CONNECTION WILL BE MORE OPEN AND INVITING TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, THEY ARE MEETING THE MATERIAL AND, UM, OTHER VARI, UH, OTHER REQUIREMENTS AS PER THE APPENDIX F STANDARD.
THE TWO ITEMS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCES ARE THE PERSON IS OF THE WINDOW.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GENERATED FROM THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE FIRE CODE, WHICH LIMITS THE PERCENTAGE OF WINDOWS THEY CAN HAVE FOR SOME OF THESE ROOMS FOR THE, UH, CHILDCARE FACILITY.
AND BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF OPENINGS, THEY CANNOT COMPLY WITH THE 25% CANOPY REQUIREMENT.
HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THEY'RE USING THE STONE BASE.
THEY'RE USING TWO DIFFERENT STUCCO MATERIALS AND TR THEY'RE TRYING TO TRULY ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE FROM THE FORUM.
AND WHAT WILL BE VISIBLE AS YOU'RE TRAVELING.
UH, WEST ON FORUM, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE 12 REQUIRED.
IT REQUIRE THE ITEM FROM THE APPENDIX F CHECKLIST.
AGAIN, I SAID, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRING, UH, REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE LIVE SCREENING OPTION TO NOT BE REQUIRED TO PUT THE WOOD VENTS AND THE OVERALL WINDOW PERCENTAGES.
AND, UM, AWNING AND CANOPY, UH, PERCENTAGES.
THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
WE SENT A FIVE, UH, LETTERS OF NOTIFICATION.
DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITIONS OR SUPPORT AS OF THIS MORNING.
DRC STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UH, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, UM, AND DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION READY.
HOWEVER, THEY SAID IF YOU JUST WANNA ASK QUESTIONS OR HAPPY TO JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW LONG IS THE LITTLE, UM, UH, THE PRESENTATION? IS IT LONG? UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST WANNA ASK QUESTIONS, SHE'LL JUST POINT TO THE PAGES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK THEY PREPARED IT JUST IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PROPOSAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST HAS AN EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO YOU.
MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.
UH, IT IS FROM COLLEEN THILAN, UH, WHO WAS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UH, COLLEEN THELAN, 5 1 1 7 BYERS AVENUE, FORT WORTH, TEXAS 7 6 1 0 7.
UM, I JUST CREATED THIS PRESENTATION IN CASE Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT BRIEFLY, BUT DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
I JUST, I, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS FACILITY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND, AND WHAT KIND, WHAT AGE GROUP YOU'RE SERVICING.
AND JUST A, JUST A GENERAL GIST.
SO THEY HAVE 450 LOCATIONS NATIONWIDE, AND THEY SERVE SIX WEEKS TO SCHOOL AGE.
AND THEN DURING THE SUMMER THEY PROVIDE, UM, A, A CAMP PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE SCHOOL AGED UP TO 12 YEARS OLD.
SO THAT'S SO AND SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, FACILITIES IN THE AREA OR IS THIS THE FIRST ONE IN THE DFW AREA? THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN DFW.
HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? THERE'S AT LEAST 20.
SO DO, SO, UH, OUR SURROUNDING AREAS, WHO HAS 'EM? UH, I KNOW MANSFIELD HAS ONE.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE IN THE FORT WORTH AREA.
THERE'S A COUPLE IN DALLAS AREA.
AND THE NORTH OF DALLAS AS WELL.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PEREZ? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SINCE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF FENCING THAT'S GOING TO BE, AND IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE PLAYGROUND, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP THE CHILDREN IN THE AREA? THERE WILL BE A FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GLAD
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TO SEE YOU BRING IT TO THE AREA.IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, SO ALL OF THE TEACHERS ARE, ARE, ARE CREDITED.
I'M, I'M ASSUMING, UM, SO I GUESS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, 'CAUSE OF THE GROWTH, THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING.
THERE'S PROBABLY, WHAT IS THE, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ANY DAYCARES CLOSE TO IT.
I'M ASSUMING THERE ARE NONE WEST OF 20.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS WHOLE AREA HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1 61.
THERE ARE A FEW COMPETITORS AND THEN SOUTH OF 20 THERE ISN'T TOO MUCH WEST OF 1 21.
SO WITH THAT BEING SUCH A GROWTH AREA, RIGHT, IT'S REALLY A BIG NEED.
SO DO YOU HAVE A WAIT LIST? ARE YOU PRETTY MUCH, UH, AS FAR AS YOUR PLANS GO, YOU KNOW, FROM FRONT BEGINNING TO END, WHEN DO YOU, IF YOU SAY EVERYTHING GOES AS AS EXPECTED, WHEN WOULD YOU BE READY TO, TO START? SO I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER, SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT A WAIT LIST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YET.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TENANT GOES, BUT AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVAL, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK MM-HMM
UH, THEN WE'LL GO FORWARD AND SUBMIT OUR CIVIL PLANS AND THEN ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND BUILD IMMEDIATELY.
'CAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS SUCH A NEED THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY BY NEXT SPRING SOMETIME THEY'LL BE OPEN SPRING, SUMMER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? CAN WE GET A MOTION IF THERE'S NO, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM FIVE, THE SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 1 SPECIFIC USE PERMANENT SITE PLAN AND, UH, APPROVAL PER THE VARIANCES ALSO THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE SUP 23 0 6 0 0 2 1 BY COMMISSIONER MAX COLEMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[6. SUP-23-06-0024 - Specific Use Permit - Outside Storage at 2615 Gifford (City Council District 5). Specific Use Permit for Outside Storage (Accessory) for an existing office/warehouse on 19.77 acres. Lot 2, Block 1, MacArthur Crossing Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-41 (PD-41), and addressed as 2615 Gifford Street]
YES.SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER SIX SUP 23 0 6 0 0 24.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE PRO, UM, PROPOSED AT AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE.
SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE 26 15 GIFFORD.
UM, THE TWO WAREHOUSES BUILDING THERE ARE SHOWN NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED AT ONE POINT.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS IDENTIFIED A NEW TENANT WHO WOULD WISHES TO OCCUPY THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
HOWEVER, NEEDS, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA TO SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESSES.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE THE TELECOMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE,
SO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTION TO THAT, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY STORE IS THE COILS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY WILL TAKE TO THE BILL SITE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WIRING AND WHATEVER NETWORK CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPOSED AREA IS KIND OF LOCATED, UM, ALL ALONG THE SIDE AND THE BACK REAR PROPERTY OF THE BUILDING.
AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS, I MEAN THIS AREA, BUT AS I POINTED OUT DURING THE BRIEFING, THEY HAVE PRETTY QUIET FAR DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM.
SO LOOKING AT THE, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE PROPOSED STAFF IS BELIEVING THAT THEY ARE NOT REALLY INTENSIFYING ANY CONDITION OF THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY CREATING ANY ADDITIONAL NUISANCES.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST SCROLL OVER THE REQUESTS MORE IN DETAIL.
SO THE EXISTING WAREHOUSES AS SHOWN, THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO PUT EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCES AROUND IT WITH THE WOOD ROLLING GATE, WHERE THEY'LL BE STORING THEIR MATERIALS.
SO THIS IS THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AND ZONE CHANGE CONSIDERATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA WHERE THEY WERE SAYING, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING AND FROM THE WHERE THE HOUSES ARE LOCATED, THEY HAVE ACQUIRED A BIT OF WIDE AREA THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY WERE BASICALLY SAYING WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE SIX FOOT MAIN SCREENING AND SOME TREES, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GIVE YOU ENOUGH BUFFERS.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL IDEA WITH THE SITE PLAN.
SO WITH THE REQUESTS, THERE IS AN EXISTING MASON SCREENING WALL AND EXISTING ROD IRON FENCES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED ORIGINALLY WITH THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING, THEY'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL WOOD FENCES.
SO OUR UDC REQUIRES THE WOOD FENCES AROUND THE OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE MOWING STRIP.
SO THE REASON IS THAT TYPICALLY THESE MOWING STRIPS ARE KIND OF ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER, HIGHER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT KNOWING THAT THIS IS MOSTLY PAVED AREA AND IF THE TENANT MOVE THAT IN THE FUTURE, THEY PROBABLY WANNA TEAR IT DOWN FOR THE NEXT USER.
STEPH DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THEM JUST PUTTING IN THE WOOD SCREENING AT THIS TIME.
SO WITH THAT, THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO UH, VARIANCES.
ONE IS THE VARIANCE THROUGH THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE
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WOOD FENCE WITH THE MOST MOWING STRIP TO JUST BE ABLE TO INSTALL WOOD, UH, FENCES WITH ROLLING WOOD GATES.AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE MAXIMUM AREA PROPOSED.
SO OUR UDC LIMITS THE OVERALL OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA TO 15% OF THE ENTIRE LOT.
UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS.
ONE, THAT THEY WILL ONLY HAVE ONE SINGLE TENANT WHO WILL BE OCCUPYING THIS ENTIRE LOT.
AND TWO, THE PROPOSED OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA IS SUFFICIENTLY SCREENED AND, UH, QUITE A BIT DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE PROPO, UH, THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
STEPH DID NOT HAVE ANY, HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR THE INCREASED AREA OF THE OUTSIDE STORAGE.
AGAIN, I SAID THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.
UM, SHE DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION ALREADY, BUT SHE, UH, IS JUST WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS UNLESS YOU GUYS, UM, HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
I, I BELIEVE SHE INCLUDED SOME PICTURES OF THE MATERIAL, THE ADOBE STORE OUTSIDE.
COMMISSIONER COLEMAN HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UH, SINCE THAT'S THAT ABUTS THE, UH, HOMES AND STUFF, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THEIR OPERATIONAL AREAS? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO OUTSIDE STORES, YOU CREATE NOISE.
UH, FORKLIFTS, BEEPING BACK AND FORTH TRUCKS.
AND THEY HAVE TO DO THAT BY, BY LAW.
SO WHAT ARE THEIR OPERATIONAL HOURS? LIKE A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? UH, UH, IS A FACILITY, UH, 24 HOURS OR DO YOU KNOW? YES.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE, UM, APPLICANT'S PER, UH, REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE AND, UM, HAS SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED TENANT.
UM, THESE ARE THE MATERIALS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT THEY'LL BE STORING.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN YET.
I SEE STILL MY PRESENTATION ON IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF ITEMS THAT'LL BE STORED.
SO, SO WILL THEY BE COVERED OR THEY JUST, THEY'LL JUST BE OUT AND OPEN? THEY'LL BE, JUST BE OUT BECAUSE THEY'LL BE, UM, STORED THERE UNTIL THEY'RE BROUGHT, LIKE LOADED ON THEIR TRUCKS SO THEY CAN GO OUT AND DO THE WORK IN THE, BUT THE FENCE IS HIGH.
THE FENCE IS HIGH ENOUGH THERE.
THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT FOOT HIGH FENCE.
SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE, UM, STAFF HAS RE UH, INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST IS THAT THE ITEMS THAT THEY STORE CANNOT BE SET HIGHER THAN THE ALL.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, JUST QUICK QUESTION.
WHEN THEY GO TO USE PARKING FOR STORAGE MM-HMM
DOES THAT DO ANYTHING NEGATIVELY TO THE RATIO OR THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THEIR BUILDING? RIGHT.
SO WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THAT.
THEY JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO INCLUDE INTO THE PNC PACKET, BUT IT WILL BE, THEIR ASSESSMENT WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
BUT BASICALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE A SINGLE TENANT, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE PARKING THEY NEED FOR THE EMPLOYEE.
THEY MOSTLY REALLY NEED THE SPACES TO SORT THESE ITEMS SO THEY COULD QUICKLY SHIP IT OUT AND GET THE FLEET, UH, THEIR OWN FLEET GO TO THE JOB SITE.
UH, COMMISSIONER, DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JIM? OKAY.
AND SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE? YES.
MATT, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD? UH, YES.
MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.
UH, THEY DID NOT INDICATE IF THEY WERE THE SPOKESPERSON FOR, SO I'M NOT SURE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU INVITE THE APPLICANT UP FIRST.
I THINK THIS APPLICANT YOU CAN COME ON UP.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND HOW, AND HOW YOU REPRESENT THE, UH, DEVELOPER.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF BALDWIN ASSOCIATES TO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.
OUR ADDRESS IS 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B, DALLAS, TEXAS.
SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, I'M, I'M PINCH HITTING FOR ROB BALDWIN HERE WHO'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
UH, SO PLEASE TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF ON ME
AND I DO WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I SERVED ON THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND I RECOGNIZE THE TIME AND DEDICATION.
I, I ADMIRE YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS ON YOUR FREE TIME FOR A FREE SANDWICH.
I DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
IT IT'S DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT, UH, MS. JUNE SIN DID.
UM, AND SHE DID, UH, SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PICTURES.
UM, YOU DID ASK A COUPLE, AND I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT.
UM, AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO JUMP IN AND ADDRESS A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE.
I THINK YOU CAN JUST ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS GREAT.
I THINK MAX, YOU HAD, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN HAD A QUESTION AND THEN COMMISSIONER MADDEN, I KNOW FOR SURE.
MINE WAS OPERATIONAL HOURS BECAUSE OF, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE LENDS ITSELF TO MORE NOISE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, HOURS OF HOURS OF SERVICE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE CONCERNED.
SOMETHING THAT'S PAST 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, OR SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS OR SOMETHING.
SO, UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN, YOU ASK A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I, I WOULD'VE ASKED THE SAME ONE AS A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE YOU DO WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPERTY AND, UM, I THINK THAT IT DOES HAVE SOME PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND, AND I DID LOOK AND, UM, THERE IS, I THINK I CAN SHOW YOU A VISUAL OF THAT IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS COMPUTER.
LET ME, UM, SORRY, I THINK THIS, I NEED TO CLOSE OUT ON MY PRESENTATION BEFORE WE
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CAN SHOW YOURS AND THEN CLOSE OUT.UM, AND I DO HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT.
SO, AN AERIAL, THERE ARE A, A LOT OF TREES IN THAT MASONRY WALL PLUS AN AREA I THINK THAT MS. SIN REFERRED TO.
NOW I NEED TO BE ON THE RECORD, UM, AS A FOOTBALL FIELD SIZE.
HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, I BELIEVE THEIR HOURS ARE OPERATION OR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
WE CAN CONFIRM THAT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF YOU NEED SOME SORT OF STIPULATION OR AN AGREEMENT ADDED TO THE SUP, WE CAN, WE CAN ADD THAT, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH HOURS OF OPERATION.
I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER MADDEN ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING SPOT ON, QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING.
THERE ARE, UH, MORE THAN 80 PARKING SI PA SPACES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE.
I ASKED, UM, THE TENANTS REPRESENTATIVE WHO'S IN NEW YORK TODAY, HOW MANY, UH, AND I CONFIRMED THEY DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE MORE THAN 60 EMPLOYEES.
SO THEN I SAID, OKAY, YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE GAME, RIGHT? YOU HAVE CUSTOMERS, YOU HAVE SUPPLIERS, WHO ELSE IS GONNA COME? I WANNA KNOW THE DIRTY DETAILS.
AND HE GOES, NO, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL.
WE WILL HAVE AN OCCASIONAL ONE, BUT THEY SHOULD BE IN THERE.
SO, UM, AS TO THE, UM, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN AS TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION, I, I CAN GET CLARITY ON THAT BEFORE COUNSEL, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OPERATION.
SO, UH, JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHAT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING IF YOU HAVE TO STORE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING? I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE SAME EQUIPMENT.
SO I DO HAVE, I DID GET FROM THEM A STATEMENT TODAY ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY OFFER.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF ONLINE STUFF.
AND IT'S THE SUPPORT FOR THAT.
I'LL READ TO YOU ONE, IT'S A GLOBAL, IT'S CALLED NET SEEDED, AND IT'S A GLOBAL LEADER IN TELECOM AND BROADBAND SOLUTION THAT INCLUDES A ONESTOP SHOP CORE TO NETWORK EDGE PORTFOLIO OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
UH, AND THEY, THEY HAVE CERTIFIED ENGINEERS AND TECHS AND THEY CAN HELP YOU PLAN, UM, DEPLOY AND MAINTAIN YOUR NETWORK.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT'LL BE INTERIOR.
BRINGING THAT MANY JOBS TO GRAND PRAIRIE IS A PLUS ALSO.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY STOUT, UM, YEAH.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST A WAREHOUSE.
I CAN ASSURE YOU IF THERE'S 60 EMPLOYEES INVOLVED IN IT.
WERE, WERE THERE ANY MEETINGS A AFTER THE LAST BOUT WITH THE NEIGHBORS WITH REGARD TO EVERYTHING? SO, VERY GOOD QUESTION.
AND I ASKED OUR CLIENT THAT QUESTION AND I ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN WITH THE NEIGHBORS THUS FAR.
AND SO AN ANSWER THAT I GOT FROM THEM IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO HEAR IS, WELL, NO ONE'S EVER CALLED US TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING ON THIS CURRENT SITE.
AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE ADJACENT PRO, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.
UM, I DID TRY TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS AN HOA, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST HAS BEEN, IS A LONG ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE WAS NO, UH, POINT OF CONTACT MM-HMM
SO WE DID DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, BUT THAT'S BEST WE COULD DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, I THINK THAT'S IT.
AND, UH, BEST WISHES, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN.
WHOSE, UH, AREA IS, THIS IS, LET'S CJ.
CAN I GET A MOTION PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR.
IS THERE ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FIRST? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUP DASH 23 DASH 6 2 4 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
I FORGOT TO ASK, WERE THERE ANY OTHER CARD? THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER CARDS WERE THERE? NO.
MADAM CHAIR, THE ONLY CARD WAS FROM MS. MURPHY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, RAMIREZ FOR TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, UM, WITH THE DRC RECOMMENDATIONS WITH DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[7. SUP-23-05-0017 - Specific Use Permit - Special Event Center at 2985 S Hwy 360 (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit request for a Special Event Center in an existing commercial lease space. Lot 1R, Emerald Square Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, addressed as 2985 S Hwy 360, Suite 120, zoned PD-137]
THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SUP 23 5 7.IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EVENT CENTER AT 2 9 8 5 SOUTH HIGHWAY 360.
UM, SO THIS IS ZONE PD 1 37 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL.
AGAIN, THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE LARGELY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT MIDDLE SUITE IS THE SUITE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
IT WAS, AS COMMISSIONER MADDEN POINTED OUT, UM, PREVIOUSLY THE FREEDOM CHURCH.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN, IT'S WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY.
EVENT TYPES ARE PRETTY STANDARD FOR OUR SPECIAL EVENT CENTERS.
GRADUATIONS, ANNIVERSARIES, BIRTHDAYS.
UM, THIS SITE DOES HAVE 56 PARKING SPACES FOR THIS SUITE.
SO THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES FOR BASED ON WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE UDC.
SO BASED OFF THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN, THEY'RE
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EXPECTING UP TO 200 ATTENDEES.UM, DAILY OPERATIONAL HOURS FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 AM FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGES.
THEY CAN BRING IN CATERING, THEY CAN BRING THEIR OWN FOOD, BUT THE EVENT CENTER WON'T BE PROVIDING ANY OF THAT.
UM, THEY ALSO, IT IS BYOB, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRING THAT A LICENSED BARTENDER BE PRESENT, UM, TO SERVE THE ALCOHOL.
UM, THERE WILL BE TWO LICENSED SECURITY OFFICERS PRESENT FOR EVERY EVENT.
UM, THEY'LL HAVE A FLOOR MANAGER THERE AS WELL.
AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.
AND AGAIN, TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THEIR, UM, PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A COUPLE PHOTOS FOR Y'ALL TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE INSIDE LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS THE ENTRY IN HALLWAY, OUR BANQUET HALL.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
THE DRC COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THEY, UH, NEED TO SPRINKLE ACCORDING TO OUR FIRE CODES.
UM, THEY NEED TO COMPLY WITH 4.14, THE UDC, AND THEY NEED TO POST SIGNAGE THAT INFORM US GUESTS THAT BY ENTERING THE FACILITY, THEY AGREE TO BE VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDED INCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATIONS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. HAS ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO FROM THE PICTURES, IT LOOKS LIKE, ARE THEY ALREADY, THEY'RE ALREADY PREPARING? YES.
LIKE IT'S ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION? YES.
I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY DOING SOME AND WORK IN THE BUILDING INSIDE.
SO DOING SPRINKLERS IS GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, BUT, OKAY.
AND AGAIN, THEY CAN WORK WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING ELSE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WE HAVE A YES, THE APPLICANT IS THE PRESIDENT.
WE HAVE SPEAKER CARD COMMISSION.
I DO ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS SPEAKER.
CAN THE APPLICANT COME UP? I HAVE A QUESTION.
YEAH, YOU CAN INVITE THE APPLICANT.
CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP? AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO FILL OUT A, THE SPEAKER CARD.
WHEN YOU FINISH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MA'AM.
I WASN'T, I HAD TO FILL THIS OUT.
ADDRESS IS 2 6 6 8 BASSWOOD DRIVE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.
AND, UM, IS THIS YOUR FIRST EVENT CENTER? YES, IT IS MY FIRST EVENT CENTER, BUT I'VE BEEN AN EVENT PLANNER FOR LIKE 12 YEARS.
WERE YOU AN EVENT PLANNER IN THE, IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE AREA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS AREA? WHEREVER EVENTS LEAD ME, BASICALLY.
OKAY, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR, YOUR PLACE? YES, IT WILL BE MINE.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, UH, GO AHEAD, PATRICIA PEREZ, ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE FLOOR MANAGER? NO, I WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART AND I'LL ALSO BE MONITORING THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE A LITTLE OFFICE IN THE BUILDING.
I WILL BE EMPLOYING A FLOOR MANAGER OR A FACILITIES MANAGER.
SO TO AND WILL YOUR FLOOR MANAGER BE A FLOOR MANAGER THAT HAS EXPERIENCE WITH EXPERIENCE? YES, MA'AM.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL MIDNIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTNERS IN THIS DEAL OR IS THIS JUST ALL YOU? THIS IS ALL ME.
SO, UH, YOU HAVEN'T EVER HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH, UH, DISRUPTIVE, UH, UH, FOLKS COMING IN TO END OF YOUR EVENT CENTERS OR ANYTHING? WELL, EXACTLY A FEW OCCASIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE HAD SO MUCH TO DRINK, BUT IT'S EASILY HANDLED.
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE SECURITY INSIDE SECURITY, TOO MANY ALCOHOL TO DRINK.
BUT, UM, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, SO, UH, WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO WANT TO DO THIS PARTICULAR CENTER? UH, IT WAS JUST TIME FOR YOU.
RECENTLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE COVID, A LOT OF CENTERS CLOSED DOWN AND I'VE HAD THAT.
UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE EVENTS, WE HAVE TO GO TOO FAR AWAY MM-HMM
BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THE AREA.
SO, SO YOU WANNA BASICALLY SERVICE THE GRAND PRAIRIE AREA? THAT'S CORRECT.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUES.
UM, SO DO YOU ALREADY HAVE, UM, EVENTS LINED UP OR, AND JUST WAITING OR YOU JUST UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO BOOKINGS, BUT I HAVE REFUSED TO TAKE ANY BOOKINGS UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS ALL DONE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? GO AHEAD, MADAM CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SUP 23 0 5 0 0 1 7, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
AND, UH, I GUESS THERE'S NO VARIANCES, SO JUST APPROVAL
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN SUP 23 0 5 0 0 1 7.
THERE ARE SOME DRC RECOMMENDATIONS WITH DRC, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN WITH, UH, UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
MOTION PER, UH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[8. CPA-23-06-0010 – Master Transportation Plan Amendment – Southgate Boulevard. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending Article 23: “Master Transportation Plan” of the Unified Development Code established by Ordinance Number 4779 and passed on November 20, 1990; to modify the alignment of an existing principal arterial, 6-lane divided roadway which begins at the US Highway 287 and State Highway 360 Interchange and terminates at the intersection of US Highway 67 and V V Jones Road to reflect current design plans for future Southgate Boulevard]
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.BRETT HUNTSMAN TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE, UH, MASTER
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THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR YOU TONIGHT.THE FIRST ONE IS CPA 23 0 5 DASH 0 0 1 10 FOR SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD.
AND I THINK BEFORE I GET INTO THIS, I JUST WANNA GIVE Y'ALL A REFRESHER AND THEN THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY BE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THIS IS.
OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS A GENERAL GUIDE FOR ROADWAYS IN THE CITY.
SO THEY INCLUDE OUR EXISTING ROADWAYS AND WHAT THOSE CLASSIFIED CLASSIFICATIONS ARE.
THOSE GO UP FROM COLLECTORS ALL THE WAY UP TO PRINCE BAR ARTERIALS, SIX LANE, UH, DIVIDED ROADWAYS.
SO WE USE THIS AS A GUIDE AS WE HAVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES ROADWAYS THAT ARE NOT BUILT YET.
AND SO WE HAVE THOSE ON THE MAP TO SHOW WHERE WE THINK WE MIGHT NEED ROADWAYS IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
AND THEY SERVE AS A, A, LIKE I SAID, A GUIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS THOSE AREAS START TO DEVELOP.
SO ON THIS, UH, FIRST ITEM, WE, AS PART OF OUR EXISTING THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE HAVE A SIX LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY GOING JUST FROM STARTING JUST FROM THE WEST OF THE 360, UH, 2 87 INTERCHANGE AND HEADING DOWN SOUTH, UH, THROUGH OUR ETJ.
UM, MEETING UP WITH VV JONES ROAD AND, AND INTERSECTING WITH US 67.
UM, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL DESIGNS PUT IN PLACE TO GIVE THAT ROAD A FIRM ALIGNMENT.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS IS SIMPLY MOVING THAT PROPOSED ALIGNMENT, WHICH WE USE AS A GUIDE TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE THINK THIS CONNECTION WILL BE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA MOVE THAT OVER AND SAY, HAVE IT REFLECT WHAT THE CURRENT DESIGNS ARE.
UH, SO THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROADWAY ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE, UM, JUST THE GENERAL ALIGNMENT OF IT.
AND AS PART OF THIS, THEY'RE ONLY, AS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD THE FIRST ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE MILES SOUTH FROM 360.
UH, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT IS STILL CONCEPTUAL.
IT'S STILL JUST A GUIDE FOR, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE DID SEND OUT 27 LETTERS.
I MARKED IT, UH, THERE ON THE MAP.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RED DOTTED WAS THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT.
THAT'S WHERE WE WERE THINKING THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO.
UM, AND THEN NOW WE HAVE THE, THE GREEN ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKELY, BUT STILL AT THIS POINT IT'S VERY CONCEPTUAL.
THERE'S NO DESIGNS FOR THE ROADWAY, UM, UM, SHOWN ON THIS MAP, THE ROADWAY THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED IS TO THE NORTH OF THIS.
SO, UH, WE'RE JUST MODIFYING THE ALIGNMENT TO ALIGN BETTER WITH VV JONES ROAD.
IT'S WHERE WE THINK IT'S GOING TO TO END UP AT.
AND, AND SO THAT'S THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TONIGHT.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
MR, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.
YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE MAP WHERE YOU SHOW WHERE THE OPPOSITION LETTER, I COULDN'T SEE WHERE THAT, COULD YOU USE THE LITTLE POINTED OR WHERE THAT IS? SO THIS, OH, OKAY.
I'M BEHIND THIS PURPLE PARCEL HERE IS ONE THAT WE RECEIVED IN A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM.
UH, COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? 'CAUSE YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT, THAT OPPOSITION LETTER.
YES, BECAUSE, UM, AT FIRST DURING THE, UH, UH, PRE-HEARING, WE, I THOUGHT THEY WAS THE CITY OF VENUS WHO HAD BROUGHT UP THE OPPOSITION, SO, OOH, THE CITY.
BUT IT IS, UH, YOU WENT BACK AND ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM, UH, SEPARATELY.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY.
MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE, UH, ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM GARY SHOTWELL ON THIS ITEM.
WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? MR. SHOTWELL? YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 26 90 VV JONES ROAD.
I'M IN THIS, UM, SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD, UH, WHERE THEY WANT TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
I GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW, HOW DO THEY INTEND TO GAIN THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THAT, TO WIDEN THIS? UH, WELL, LET'S, LEMME BACK UP.
HE SAID THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GO THREE MILES ON THAT SOUTH GATE.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT IN ON AUGUST THE 15TH? THEY WILL.
UM, I'LL LET HIM ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT BRETT DO SOMETHING ELSE.
BRETT, HE ADDRESSED THAT, BUT HE CAN ADDRESS IT AGAIN FOR YOU.
AND THEN TWO, I NEED TO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UH, WHAT KIND OF FOOTAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS TAKING IN ACRE AMOUNT, UH, DISTANCE OR WHATEVER.
SO THE, THE MEETING ON AUGUST 15TH, THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING IS JUST TO FINALIZE, UH, THIS AMENDMENT.
SO ALL, ALL WE'RE DOING IS MOVING THE LINE ON THE MAP, THE ROADWAY THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED.
THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT THREE MILES, IT'S FURTHER
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NORTH OF YOU.UH, THAT'S BEING DONE BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER.
AND SO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE ROADWAY IS JUST FOLLOWING THAT MORE DESIGNED ALIGNMENT.
EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR.
UM, IT'S JUST A, A LINE SHOWING WHERE WE THINK THAT ROAD MIGHT NEED TO BE WIND IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS OR SO.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE WIDTH, IT HAS A SIX LANE DIVIDED CLASSIFICATION, WHICH TYPICALLY MEANS 120 FEET.
HOWEVER, THAT'S THE ALIGNMENT OF IT.
WHERE THAT ROAD'S GOING TO BE, IF IT ENDS UP BEING 120 FEET WHEN IT ACTUALLY GOES TO CONSTRUCTION, UM, IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
SO NOTHING IS SET IN STONE WITH THIS.
THIS IS JUST A GUIDE AS WE DEVELOP, UH, 25 YEARS OR MORE INTO THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S JUST, NONE OF THIS IS, IS GOING TO AFFECT ME.
I LIVE ON THE VERY END OF VV JONES AND IT WILL, BUT THERE IS, I DO HAVE PLANS THAT SHOWED IN 1990 THAT Y'ALL HAD PLANNED A, A, A SIX LANE ROAD THROUGH THERE WHEN YOU TOOK WHAT, WHEN YOU PUT YOUR EJT LINE OUT MM-HMM
AND, UH, SO THAT IS JUST, IT'S STILL WILL YOU'LL, YOU'LL STILL MAKE PLANS ON WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THE OTHER END OF EV JONES? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, SO AS, AS WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE DESIGN OF THESE ROADWAYS, UM, THAT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE ENGINEERING, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THAT'S WHEN ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN.
THIS IS LOOKING, JUST TRYING TO LOOK AS FAR IN THE FUTURE AS WE CAN TO WHERE WE THINK A ROADWAY'S GOING TO BE.
AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT ROADWAY CONTINUING DOWN AS NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, BUT THAT'S VERY LONG IN THE FUTURE.
SO NOTHING WILL CHANGE NOW, UM, FOR ANY EFFECTIVE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, ALONG THIS LINE, WILL WE NEED TO BE AT THIS MEETING ON THE 15TH IN ORDER TO SHOW OUR OPPOSITION? IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, YES.
THAT'S, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
UM, THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL.
THOSE ARE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR COMING AT ALL.
UM, NOW CAN WE, UH, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? NOT ON THIS ITEM, NO, MA'AM.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, CAN WE GET A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT CPA 23 0 6 0 0 1 0, UH, THE MASTER OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN AMENDMENT SOUTH CAPE BOULEVARD.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT CPA 2 3 0 6 0 0 10, UH, PER, UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
[9. CPA-23-06-0009 – Master Transportation Plan Amendment - SH 360. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending Article 23: “Master Transportation Plan” of the Unified Development Code established by Ordinance Number 4779 and passed on November 20, 1990; to add future State Highway 360 Extension from the US Highway 287 and State Highway 360 Interchange to US Highway 67 at a point approximately one-half mile west of Farm-to-Market 2738]
ALL RIGHT.AND THE SECOND ITEM THAT I HAVE IS, UH, MASTER TRANSPORTATION MEMBER FOR THE STATE HIGHWAY 360 EXTENSION.
SO THIS IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE ALIGNMENT OF, OF, UH, SAY HIGHWAY 360.
THIS WAS ON OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING STRAIGHT SOUTH.
UM, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COME IN, UH, WE KIND OF REEVALUATED THE AREA.
UM, SOUTH CAPE BOULEVARD REALLY BECAME THAT NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR, UH, AS WE HAD MORE DEVELOPED IN THE AREA, THE, UH, CONVERSATION WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS IN THE STATE AND THE TOLL AUTHORITY.
UM, THE 360 EXTENSION IS BECOMING MORE, UM, OF A, OF, UH, WHAT THE WORDS I'M LOOKING FOR ON THIS.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT IN THE NEXT 25 OR SO YEARS.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS GET IT BACK ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP, UM, JUST TO SHOW THE, THE GENERAL ALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY.
UH, THERE ARE NO DESIGNS FOR THIS ROADWAY AT THIS TIME.
THERE'S NO PLANS TO EXTEND IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE BY THE TOLL AUTHORITY AND BY THE STATE.
WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY DESIGNS.
AND AT THE POINT THAT THERE WOULD BE DESIGNS, THIS ALIGNMENT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, BASED ON EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON NUMEROUS AMOUNT FACTORS THAT WILL BE DECIDED DURING ENGINEERING.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE MAP JUST TO SHOW THAT WE THINK THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
AND THIS IS A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE WE THINK THIS ALIGNMENT WILL BE.
UH, WE RECEIVED SIX OPPOSITION LETTERS, AND THOSE ARE DENOTED ON THE MAP IN PURPLE.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE NINE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE WERE AFTER THIS, UH, PRESENTATION WAS MADE.
THE ONE THAT WE DID GET BEFORE IS LISTED IN GREEN.
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AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRETT? I THINK YOU DID A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION ON THAT.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD PROACTIVE MEASURE AND A PART OF THE, THE CITY TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THAT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, OH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.
SO AM I UNDERSTANDING RIGHT, IF, IF WE WERE TO OVERLAY THOSE TWO, SOME PARTS OF THOSE ROADS WOULD OVERLAP, RIGHT? THEY WOULD CROSS EACH OTHER? YES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY, UH, NORTHERN SIDE, AND ACTUALLY I WILL, I'LL PUT THIS ON THE MAP.
AND, AND WHY I ASK THAT TOO IS THAT THEY, IF THEY'RE PASSING EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE GOING BY EACH OTHER, YOU JUST MENTIONED TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT THE OTHER ROAD IS GONNA BE LIKE 120 FEET WIDE, SIX LANES.
SO WE WOULD HAVE A SIX LANE ROAD AND A HIGHWAY OR TOLLWAY KIND OF.
SO IN THE SAME AREA, THE CONNECTION POINT FOR SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD IS ACTUALLY, THERE'S A EXISTING ROUNDABOUT HERE.
IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE SEVEN 11 AT THE US UH, 2 87 AND SAN HIGHWAY 360 INTERCHANGE.
AND SO THE PLAN FOR THAT ROADWAY IS TO MEET THAT ROUNDABOUT AND THEN SPLIT TO THE EAST AND CONNECT WITH THAT NORTH, UM, 360 FRONTAGE ROAD THAT'S SHOWN THERE.
SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE, AND IT'S VERY CONCEPTUAL.
THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A FLYOVER OF THAT INTERCHANGE AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF ENGINEERING AND WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.
AND THEN IT WOULD SHIFT A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST AND KIND OF RUN PARALLEL TO WHERE WE THINK SOUTHGATE WOULD RUN, UH, FURTHER SOUTH.
AND SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF IT BEHIND THAT.
AND, AND AGAIN, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT WOULD NEED TO GO INTO IT, BUT THIS IS OUR BEST GUESS.
UM, AT THIS TIME SEEMS LIKE A DUPLICATION THOUGH A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT WOULD, AND A SIX LANE ROAD.
SO THERE WOULD BE THAT PARALLEL ROADWAY AND SO YOU WOULD GET THE HIGHER THROUGH TRAFFIC ON THE 360 EXTENSION.
UM, IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE ELEVATED WITH FRONTAGE ROADS, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC ON THE SIX LANE, UH, DIVIDED, UM, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE ROUNDABOUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FUNCTIONALITY WISE.
UM, I THINK A LOT ABOUT 1 61 WITH ROBINSON AND CARRIER AND THESE ROADS KIND OF RUNNING PARALLEL TO IT, SERVING DIFFERENT TRAFFIC.
I, I, I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE, IT'S JUST PLANNING AHEAD AND JUST MAKING A FRAME.
SO WHEN DEVELOPERS AND THE FOLKS COMING IN WANTING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY, IT'S, IT'S A STRAIGHT LINE.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE EASIER FOR THEM TO KIND OF PLOT IT OUT.
IT, IT HELPS US WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE AND WE HAVE THESE TALKS WITH DEVELOPERS AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS JUST A A MM-HMM
AND SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, BUT THIS LINE MAY NOT HAPPEN AT ALL.
IT MAY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE.
THIS IS JUST WHAT WE THINK AT THIS TIME.
AND WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT ON OUR, OUR MAP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRETT? THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
UH, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS, ONE FROM JOSEPH SUTHERLAND AND ONE FROM CHERRY SUTHERLAND.
UH, BOTH OF WHOM WANT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
UH, THEY INDICATED TO ME THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION.
WELL, THEY CAN COME UP TOGETHER.
THEY HAVE TO BOTH SAY THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD EACH OF YOU PLEASE.
HI, I'M SHE SUTHERLAND, UH, 13 6 0 1 COUNTY ROAD 5 0 6, VENUS, TEXAS.
BRETT, CAN YOU PULL UP JOSEPH SUTHERLAND? 13 6 0 1 COUNTY ROAD 5 0 6, VENUS, TEXAS.
AND CAN I HAVE BRAD UP THE MAP THAT SHOWED WHERE YOU HAD THE SQUARES OF THE PROPERTY? WELL, I DON'T HAVE THAT LARGER ONE ON THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT I CAN POINT OUT TO THEM THAT THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
BUT YOU ALSO HAD ONE WHERE YOU, FOR THE OPPOSING THE GREEN AND THE OH YEAH.
THAT'LL BE LITTLE BIT BETTER THERE.
AND WHICH ONE ARE YOU SHOWING ME? THE PURPLE.
SO I BOUGHT THIS PLACE IN 1978, HAD MY CHILDREN, RAISED THEM, AND NOW THEY'VE KIND OF PRETTY MUCH TAKEN OVER THE FARM.
I MAKE A LIVING WITH THE PROPERTY.
I RAISED GRASS FED BEEF AND THE ORIGINAL, THEY HAD 360 PLANS YEARS AGO COMING THROUGH WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT SOUTHGATE MM-HMM
AND WE WERE FINE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I'M FARM EXEMPT AND, UM, I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME WITH THE DEVELOPERS PUSHING EVERYTHING OVER TO THE LITTLE PERSON BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS ALL FARMLAND.
THEY WEREN'T TOUCHING ANYBODY'S HOUSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE GET THE LETTER IN THE MAIL.
UM, SO WE'RE BASICALLY COMING TO YOU GUYS TO GET THIS ON RECORD AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, OPPOSING THE THREE, THE HIGHWAY 360.
AND I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE A, A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU ASKING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S HOMES.
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SON, UM, HAS HIS HOME ON THE PROPERTY, MY DAUGHTER AS WELL.AND, UM, I JUST HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME THAT DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN AND JUST KIND OF PUSH THINGS AROUND BECAUSE ORIGINALLY, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS SOUTHGATE AND SO NOW THEY'VE MOVED IT OVER TO THE LITTLE PERSON AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL AFFECT TOO.
SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE TO, TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
BRETT, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? ARE YOU OVER RASHAD? YEAH, I CAN ABSOLUTELY ADDRESS THAT.
SO A LOT OF THESE TIMES WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE THESE, UM, STATE HIGHWAYS COMING IN, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO, TO REACH OUT AND, AND TALK TO ANYONE THAT MAY BE AFFECTED BY IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO, UH, IS LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS AND POTENTIAL ALIGNMENTS.
SO IF THEY EVER GET TO THE POINT WHERE THIS IS RECEIVED FUNDING, RECEIVED REGIONAL SUPPORT, MOVING TO THAT DESIGN PHASE, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT THEY'LL DO IS LOOK AT ALL THE VARIOUS ALIGNMENTS AND START TO MEET WITH THE PUBLIC THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED OR HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS TO GET INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS ON THAT AREA.
AND SO THAT'LL BE A, A VERY LONG PROCESS DURING THE DESIGN TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE THAT'S AFFECTED IS, IS AWARE AND ON BOARD AND BEING ABLE TO GET FEEDBACK.
SO THIS IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER, SO TO SPEAK, SLIDE ON A PAPER.
UM, IT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT INFLUENCED BY THE TOPO THAT'S OUT THERE AND SOME OF THE REGIONAL PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO AND THE DEVELOPERS, UM, COG AND WHATNOT, THEY TRY TO PUT A ALIGNMENT THAT PROVIDES THE LEAST IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOD PLANE, AND SO WE CROSSED OVER IMMEDIATELY AS POSSIBLE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GET AWAY FROM THE FLOOD PLAIN.
THIS IS ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE STUFF.
BUT TO, TO BRETT'S POINT, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A LINE ON PAPER.
IT WILL LIKELY BE ADJUSTED AS YOU GET DEEPER INTO THE PLANS AND THE SCHEMATICS.
UM, BUT DURING THAT PROCESS, TXDOT, NTTA, THEY HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, PUBLIC CLEARINGS TO HAVE INPUT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED.
AND IF THERE'S SOME LEEWAY, I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY'LL TRY TO FIND A WAY TO AVOID YOUR PROPERTY IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
WELL, THE DEVELOPERS DID TRY TO BUY THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY GAVE ME A LOW BALL PRICE, LIKE ALWAYS, WHICH MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GO TO BAT ON THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I MAKE MY LIVING, YOU KNOW, A RAISED GRASS FED BEEF MM-HMM
THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERRUPTING MM-HMM
BECAUSE IT ORIGINALLY WAS ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY BOUGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM
AND SO THEY'VE COME IN HERE AND, YOU KNOW, BEEN DISCUSSING WITH YOU MM-HMM
AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH FLOODPLAIN.
I I THINK AT THIS POINT, THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY.
THIS IS LIKE, LIKE RASHAD SAID, IT'D BE A DOWN THE ROAD A WAYS BEFORE AND YOU WOULD BE CONTACTED AT EVERY POINT OF DISCUSSION.
I JUST, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO PUT IT ON RECORD.
HAVE IT IN THE DOCUMENTS MM-HMM
TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, STARTING THE PROCESS AND OUR VOTE WOULD BE NO REFLECTION ON YOU AND WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO, WE DO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO PROACTIVE MEASURES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU CAME.
IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE BACKSTORY, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT HELPS TO DETERMINE WHERE, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT, AND WE KNOW MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT'S COMING.
AND WE EXPECT IT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE SO FAR OUT THERE WITH GRAND PRAIRIE, I MEAN, WE'RE SO FAR FROM CITY HALL.
IT WAS A SHOCKER FOR US, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT.
BUT IT'S JUST THE START OF THE PROCESS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY SON WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING.
DID YOU SAY WANTED SAY ANYTHING, SIR? UM, YES.
I JUST, I MEAN, SHE PRETTY MUCH HIT EVERYTHING ON THE NOTE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF COMING DOWN 5 0 6 AND BASICALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS IT HAS SHIFTED OVER.
WHEN WE DID GET THE LETTER, IT KIND OF SCARED US BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, WHOA, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S GOING RIGHT THROUGH OUR LAND.
IT JUST MADE US REALLY NERVOUS AND ANXIOUS BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? ARE WE ABOUT TO HAVE TO MOVE? LIKE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO GET GOING? LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, WE WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO 360, WE'RE OPPOSED TO WHERE IT'S RUNNING AT THE MOMENT.
ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GONNA COME RIGHT STRAIGHT THROUGH HERE AND GO DOWN 5 0 6, BUT THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOUTH GATE'S GONNA COME THROUGH NOW.
SO THEY BASICALLY CHANGED 360 TO SOUTHGATE.
SO LIKE I SAID, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING GUYS.
DO YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT, BRETT? OR WE THINK WE GOT IT PRETTY MUCH COVERED.
RASHAD, DID YOU, I JUST WILL NOTE THAT THIS, THESE LETTERS, THIS CONVERSATIONS, THEY ARE BEING FORWARDED TO THE DEVELOPER AND WHOEVER ELSE.
UH, SO THIS WILL BE ON RECORD.
AND SO BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING, I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH THESE, THESE PEOPLE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A, AS A, AS A PLACEHOLDER, A PRELIMINARY, JUST TO BE PROACTIVE AND BE READY FOR THE DEVELOPERS.
BUT THIS BY NO MEANS WILL SAY THAT, UH, OUR, UH, THE RESIDENTS THERE, UH, WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR, UH,
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THEIR HOME, I MEAN THEIR FARM.THEY WILL BE CONTACTED PRIOR TO ANY DIRT MOVING.
HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? COMMISSIONERS, AS FAR AS VOTING? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT? I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR
SO IS THE TOLLWAY, UM, CONSIDERED GOVERNMENT AND WOULD EMINENT DOMAIN BE THE METHOD THAT THEY WOULD GET THEIR LAND? SHOULD IT GO THROUGH EVENTUALLY? SO THE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR SAY LIKE, SAY HIGHWAY 360 AND SAY HIGHWAY 1 61.
SO, UM, I MAY MISSPEAK ON THIS, BUT TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS YOU HAVE AN OWNED AND OPERATED.
UM, SO A NORMAL HIGHWAY IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE STATE AND IT'S NOT A TOLLWAY.
NOW, THERE ARE OTHER TIMES, LIKE WITH TOLLWAYS WHERE THE STATE OWNS THE RUNWAY, BUT IT'S OPERATED BY A PRIVATE ENTITY.
UM, I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON WHAT, ON HOW 360 IS, UM, STATE HIGHWAY 1 61, THE FRONTAGE ROADS ARE ACTUALLY THE STATE HIGHWAY, WHILE THE MAIN LANES ARE THE TOLL ROAD.
SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH THERE.
SO I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
BUT IT WOULD BE EITHER THE STATE OR THE PRIVATE AUTHORITY THAT DOES THAT.
UM, EITHER WAY IT WOULDN'T BE THE CITY THAT WOULD BE, UH, DESIGNING THAT ROADWAY.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR METHOD.
SO I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
I BELIEVE BRETT ALSO MENTIONED THERE'D BE STATE MEETINGS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES AS WELL.
SO THEY, THERE'D BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS GOING ON BEFORE IT GET TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S A CONCERN.
YES, THERE'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROCESS OF RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THAT THEY'LL DETERMINE VIABLE PAYMENT IF NEEDED.
SO, BUT THAT'S WAY DOWN THE LINE.
I I WOULDN'T AND THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT, UH, BUILDING THAT.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE LAND BEFORE THEY CONSTRUCT IT, SO.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THANKS BRETT.
UH, NO MORE DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONERS.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION OR HOW, HOW Y'ALL FEELING ABOUT THIS? UH, I THINK THIS IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER THAT WE VOTE ON AND, UH, MOVE ON.
AND THEN WHEN IT GETS TO SERIOUS POINT, I'M SURE Y'ALL WILL BE BACK AND WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING.
I'M SURE THEY'LL CONTINUE TO CONTACT YOU.
'CAUSE I AM CONCERNED AND I'M SO GLAD THAT Y'ALL CAME.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HERE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE, UH, AND APPROVE, UH, CPA 23 DASH OH SIX DASH 0 0 9 MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AMENDMENT SH THREE 16.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE CPA 23 0 6 0 9 BY COMMISSIONER COCA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ AS PER DRC.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE LAST CASE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE.
WE ARE, OUR HEARTS ARE HEAVY BECAUSE MAX COLEMAN, WHO IS OUR VICE CHAIR, IS THIS LAST MEETING AND IT'S TEARING ME UP TO DO THIS.
BUT, UH, WE, THE PLAY, IT WON'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT MAX.
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND WE'LL STILL BE CALLING ON YOU.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE DID, UH, UH, JULIA PEREZ, COMMISSIONER PEREZ GOT THESE LITTLE THANK YOU CAKES WITH BOOTS ON 'EM FOR HIM, FOR EVERYONE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO CARDS FOR YOU.
BUT, UH, THE MAIN THING IS THAT KNOW THAT YOU ARE IRREPLACEABLE.
AND, UM, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU.
WELL, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY HARD.
WE EXPECT YOU TO COME AND BEAT US OVER THE HEAD.
I CAN AFFORD TO LIVE ANYWHERE I WANNA LIVE.
AND I COULD HAVE MOVED A LOT OF TIMES, BUT GRAND PRAIRIE'S MY HOME.
AND I, I THINK I MIGHT BE APPOINTED TO ANOTHER BOARD, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY HEALTH BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'M, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE
WELL, THAT'S, BUT I, I'VE ENJOYED IT AND I'M, I'M, I'VE LIKED WATCHING THE STAFF THAT THE GRAND PRIXS BUILT OVER THE YEARS MM-HMM
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME AND GONE.
AND WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE HERE TODAY.
AND, UH, I, I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED BEING ON THE BOARD.
WELL, YOU HAVE BEEN A JOY TO ME, ESPECIALLY, I'M BEING SELFISH, BUT, UH, I JUST LOOK AT MAX AND HE KNOWS WHAT I, WHAT WE NEED.
BUT, UH, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU GO
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ABOVE AND BEYOND AND YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU, 'CAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT GRAND PRAIRIE.EVERYBODY UP HERE CARES ABOUT GRAND PRAIRIE.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE NOT GETTING PAID.
BUT WE LOVE GRAND PRAIRIE TOO, AND WE WANNA SEE IT GROW.
AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR.
WELL, WE GET A CHANCE TO PAY, PAY IT BACK MM-HMM
FOR THE THINGS THAT GRAND PRIX HAS GIVEN US.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN GRAND PRIX A LONG TIME, HAD A LOT OF BUSINESS IN GRAND PRIX AND, UH, IT SUPPORTED MY FAMILY FOR YEARS.
SO IT WAS MY OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK WHEN I RETIRED.
SO I'VE, I'VE HAD, WELL, I'D LIKE FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
AND THIS IS YOUR DUE TO SAY BY MAX.
ANYBODY WANNA SAY ANYTHING? GO AHEAD.
YOU WANNA GET IN THE ON THE MIC? YOU GOTTA GET ON THE MIC.
I KNOW IT'S SHORT LIVED, BUT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
SO WE DEFINITELY LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU.
UH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR MAX, UH, HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU.
UH, WONDERFUL QUESTIONS AND ALWAYS THINKING OF THE COMMUNITY FIRST.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAX.
YOU'RE SO DILIGENT AND, AND ALWAYS HERE.
I I DON'T THINK YOU'VE EVER MISSED.
I THINK MY WIFE SAID I MISSED ONE TIME, BUT HER MEMORY'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN MINE.
I COULDN'T ARGUE WITH HER, HONESTLY.
SO, BUT YOUR DILIGENT WORK AND, AND THE EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE PUT FORTH TO, TO COME AND PROTECT OUR CITY'S CHARACTER AND, AND OUR UNIQUE SENSE OF PLACE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, UM, WE, WE DEPEND ON YOU FOR OUR HISTORY.
AND, AND I JUST LOVE HOW FEISTY YOU ARE AND, AND, UM, JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALWAYS BEING HERE FOR US AND, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HELP US.
AND SO NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT BOOK.
YOU HAVE TIME NOW TO WRITE THE BOOK? YEAH, I GOT TIME TO WRITE THE BOOK.
THERE BEEN NO FOR THE BUSINESS.