* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Planning and Zoning Staff Briefing] [00:00:07] WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF, WHAT IS THIS, JUNE 26TH, 2023. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE STAFF, UH, BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AT 5:39 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASES. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING. PUBLIC HEARING WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I WILL NOT CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE. CHERYL SMITH. HERE. MAX COLEMAN. HERE. ANNA COCA. CARL RAMIREZ. FRANK GONZALEZ. HERE. JOE FEDCO. MICHELLE MADDEN. HERE. JULIA PEREZ. HERE. QUENTIN. PETE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR ANNA COCA CARL RAMIREZ. AND, UH, LET'S SEE. AND QUENTIN JOHN FKO. AND QUENTIN PETE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WHICH WE NEED TO DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY? NO. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE A IMPACT FEE PRESENTATION? NOT TODAY. NO, NOT TODAY. OH, OKAY. IT'S ON THE SHEET HERE, SO. OH, SO THERE WILL NOT BE A PRESENTATION OF THE IMPACT FEE. OKAY. NOW WE'LL HAVE STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT? AND BEFORE JUNE GETS STARTED, I DO WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENTS. THE FIRST IS THAT WE HAVE A NEW SENIOR PLANNER, ABDUL ABDUL GA, UH, WHO THIS IS HIS SECOND WEEK WITH US, SO WE WE'RE GLAD HE CAME BACK. AND THE , THE, THE SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT JUNE HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO SENIOR PLANNER. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMES NURSE. SO THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, SORRY. THAT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE. UM, IS THE SITE PLAN FOR BELTLINE INDUSTRIAL. UM, THEY REQUEST THIS FOR A SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE AS SHOWN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BELTLINE. CAN YOU SEE THIS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO THE, UH, PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 35 ACRES. THEY ARE SUBDIVIDING IT. UM, THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE WILL GO INTO THE NINE ACRE LOT. EXCUSE ME. YES. THE, UH, SCREEN. RIGHT. OKAY. I DUNNO IF IT'S GOING THROUGH, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE VERY SLOW. I SEE. I SEE. MAY BE TOO HOT FOR IT. . THE GOOD THING IS WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OFFICE WAREHOUSE SITE PLANS. YES. YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST KEEP GOING. OKAY, SURE. THANK YOU. I JUST NOTICE I DIDN'T SEE IT. YES, WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'RE TALKING WITH THE, UH, MEDIA TEAM, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT FIXED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. UM, SO ACTUALLY SPEAKING OF, UH, OFFICE WAREHOUSE, THIS IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF REMINGTON 30 THAT YOU GUYS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR STATE PLANS. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS MET, UM, THE INCIDENT AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT IN APPENDIX X INDUSTRIAL STANDARDS. UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE, UM, SHARED WITH YOU DURING THE ACTUAL MEETING. UM, THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. UH, YES SIR. I SEE THAT THE MM-HMM . IRVING SECTION OF BELTLINE MM-HMM . INCLUDING MM-HMM . SO IS THAT A ? SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CITY OF IRVING AND CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO RESOLVE RIGHT NOW. THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLE, UM, HOW DO WE HANDLE SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT MAY OCCUR ALONG BELTLINE? SO IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION YET, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD IT WITH THE CITY OF IRVING. MM-HMM . YEAH. FOR YEARS, THAT PART OF THE MM-HMM . UH, BELTLINE WAS HARD TO DEVELOP 'CAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN. RIGHT. IRVING [00:05:01] DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN. RIGHT. SO IT WAS A LOT OF, UH, LAND THAT WASN'T DEVELOPED VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THAT. SO YEAH, I GUESS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRAG SOMETHING IN TO MAKE IT WORK, HUH? SOMETHING. YES. YES. I THINK BOTH CITIES ARE VERY MOTIVATED TO DO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. IT JUST TAKES A WHILE FOR THE TO BE, BE RESOLVED. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS A PD AMENDMENT SLASH CONCEPT PLAN. THIS IS FOR HAMILTON MATTHEW BUSINESS PARK. UM, I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU THE SCREEN, BUT BASICALLY WHAT I INCLUDED IS A, UM, SCREENSHOT OF THE, WHAT THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED IN THE EXISTING PD 30. SO, PD 30 WAS A APPROVED BACK IN 1980S. AND BACK THEN WE DID NOT REALLY REQUIRE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. SO WHAT PLANNING STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO IS, UM, AS THE PNC, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS WHERE THEY'LL PROVIDE A CON PLAN. SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WILL LIKELY COME TO THOSE ZONINGS. SO FOR THE OLDER PDS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CON PLAN, WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE APPLICANT, HEY, COULD YOU DO A CONSEQUENCE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH OUR REGULATION BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE SITE PLAN? SO THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING A ZONE TO BE CHANGED. THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THIS AREA. THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS JUST TO SHOW, HEY, THIS IS LIKELY WHAT YOU WILL SEE, WHICH IS ONE OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDING AND THE CREEK REMAINING AS IS BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT FOR FLOOD MITIGATION. OKAY. I HAVE QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. OH, GO AHEAD. OH, UM, SO I NOTICED THAT THIS PIECE OF LAND LOOKS LIKE OKLAHOMA, SORT OF BACKWARDS . SURE. UM, ARE THEY GONNA BE DEVELOPING ANYTHING TO THE EAST? NOT AT THIS POINT THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING AT THIS POINT, YES. MM-HMM . AND THEN I ASSUME IT'S PART OF, UM, CODE OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES THEM HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DOCKS TO THE BACKSIDE? YES. THEY ARE SCREENED BY THE PART OF THE BUILDING, WHICH EXTENDS IT OUT. MM-HMM . UM, IF THEY WERE, UM, VISIBLE FROM, UM, IF THEY WERE ADJACENT RIGHT PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A WING WALL OR SOME TYPE OF SCREENING HERE. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO, BUT THEY ARE, UH, PROVIDING THE EXTENSION OF THE BUILDING THAT WILL HIDE THAT AREA. SO THEIR TRUCK COURT IS NOT REALLY A 18 WHEELER TRUCK COURT. THEY'RE EXPECTING MORE OF A SEMI, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING A WHOLE LENGTH OF THE WALL BECOMING TRUCK COURT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, SO WE CAN ASK THEM MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE MORE. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A SITE PLAN. THEY ARE RIGHT NOW WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR OWN ENGINEER TO SORT OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES. SO YOU WILL SEE A RENDITION OF SITE PLAN ONCE THAT IS READY TO BE REVIEWED. OKAY? MM-HMM . THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. ANY HAVE QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE. YES, MA'AM. AND IS IT SURROUNDED BY, UH, TWO RESIDENTIAL AREAS? SO IT IS SURROUNDED BY A RESIDENTIAL AREA ACROSS THE CREEK TO THE SOUTH THAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED. MM-HMM . SO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING FOR A ZONING TO BE CHANGED. THIS AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL AREAS SINCE THE 1980S, WHICH IS FAR BEFORE THESE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION PROBABLY CAME TO THE SOUTH. SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT DON'T MOST OF THESE MM-HMM . WAREHOUSES HAVE AN OFFICE. RIGHT. IT'S AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE. MM-HMM . YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, BUT WHY WOULD, IT SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT IF THEY ALL, SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE USE TO BE ALLOWED. WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, HEY, WE HAVE A ZONING PD 30, WHICH SHOWS NOTHING. THIS IS A BLANK LAND. THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THAT CAN MEET OUR, THAT CAN COMPLY WITH OUR STANDARD. WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO IS, HEY, COULD YOU AT LEAST SHOW US AS A COURTESY TO THE CITY WHAT YOU PLAN ON DEVELOPING? SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ADOPTING. SO ONCE THIS IS A PRE ADOPTED, THEY'LL BE TIED DOWN TO THIS CONCEPT PLAN JUST SAYS, YOU KNOW, SHADY GROVE INDUSTRIALS AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES THAT YOU'VE SEEN USUALLY APPROVE THE CON UH, ZONING BECAUSE YOU SEE THE CONCEPT AND WHAT IT WILL BE. MM-HMM . UM, THE PD 30 WHEN IT WAS, WAS APPROVED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES. WE JUST DID NOT HAVE THAT. 'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. SO THEY, ALL THEY'RE SAYING IS, WE ALREADY HAVE A ZONING IN PLACE. THIS IS LIKELY WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE. ARE YOU OKAY TO ADOPT THIS TOO? SO THAT THIS BECOMES MORE OF A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS PD. SO IF THEY DEVIATE FROM THIS CONCEPT PLAN, THEN OF COURSE THEY'LL HAVE TO COME AND AMEN THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT TIME WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SAY, HEY, IS THIS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD APPROVED? JUST AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AS YOU CAN. YES MA'AM. ON THE FRONT END? YES MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE AT 40 49 ROBINSON STREET. THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S BEEN KIND OF VACANT FOR A LITTLE BIT. UH, THE, UM, INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO REHAB AND REUSE THE EXISTING SPACE BY ALLOWING A, UM, CONVENIENCE STORE USE. SO THERE WILL BE NO GAS STALLS, NOTHING. UM, BASICALLY THERE'S A SAYING, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO OCCUPY THIS SPACE, BUT HOWEVER, CONVENIENCE STORE, EVEN WITHOUT GUESTS, WE DO REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HERE FOR. SO BASED ON THAT, UM, THE STORE WILL BE OPEN FROM 9:00 AM [00:10:01] TO 10:00 PM THEY EXPECT TO HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES WHEN THERE'S PEAK HOURS AND ONE EMPLOYEE DURING, UM, THE REMAINING OPERATING HOURS. UM, THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES. THE DRC DID HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANTED TO PUT IT AS A CONDITION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE SUP ONE IS THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, THEY REQUIRE ALL OUR DUMP, UH, RECEPTACLE TO BE INSIDE ENCLOSED. SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED ON SITE. I THINK THEY CURRENT, UM, USED TO HAVE A DUMPSTER THAT WAS NOT INSIDE OF ENCLOSURE. I VISITED THE SITE THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT TODAY, BUT, UM, THEY ARE, UH, ASKING IF THEY CAN PUT AN ENCLOSURE AROUND IT. ANOTHER ONE THAT PLANNING WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR IS THAT, UM, IF THERE'S ANY POTHOLES OR ANY THINGS THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A HINDRANCE BECAUSE THAT SITE HAS REMAINED THERE FOR A WHILE WITHOUT A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THAT WE REQUEST THAT THEY REPAIR THEM. AND THE THIRD ONE IS THAT THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS FAIRLY CLEAN, BUT WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE CLEANED AND REPAINTED. SO THOSE WILL BE THE CONDITION OF THE SUP APPROVALS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND A SITE PLAN FOR O'REILLY'S AUTO PARTS. SO THEY ARE GOING INTO AN EXIT SITE ON WEST KEMP WISDOM. UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS THE AUTO RILEY'S AUTO PART, WHICH HAS NO, UH, SERVICING OF VEHICLES. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OVERHEAD DOORS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BASE. WHAT THEY BASICALLY DO IS THEY RE UH, RETAIL CUSTOMER SALES OF A NEW AUTO PARTS, BUT IT DOES STILL REQUIRE AN SUP APPROVAL. SO THEY'RE COMING THROUGH FOR AN SUP AND A SITE PLAN. UM, THEY ARE MEETING OUR APPENDIX, UM, F STANDARD AND THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, VARIANCE FOR TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE LOCATION OF PARKING AREA. THIS IS DUE TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO THIS IS BETWEEN THE, UH, I THINK VALERO OR THE CIRCLE K AND THE, UH, STRIP CENTER WITH THE, UM, UH, . YES. SO, UM, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN ACCESS EASEMENT, UH, THAT'S SHARED BY ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS. SO THEY COULD NOT REALLY GET CLOSER TO THE PUBLIC STREET. AND OUR APPENDIX F ENCOURAGES THE BUILDINGS TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET BECAUSE REALLY, REALLY WANNA PROMOTE MORE ENHANCED SIDEWALK AND EXPERIENCE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THIS IS THE ONE OF VARIANTS THAT STAFF INCLUDED, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE. ANOTHER THING THEY'RE REQUESTING IS THAT, UH, OVERALL WINDOW, UM, TO BE REDUCED FROM 50% TO 40, UH, 45%. UH, STEPH DID NOT HAVE ANY OPPOSITION. THEY'RE PROVIDING PRETTY GOOD LANDSCAPING AND THEY ARE USING MASON MATERIALS AS REQUIRED BY THE APPENDIX STAFF. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEPH AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES. IS', IS THAT THE SAME ONE WHERE THE NAIL SHOP AND THE LIQUOR STORE WERE JUST ADDED? IS THAT THE SAME PLACE? I DON'T THINK SO. IS THAT SO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WHAT IS THAT? AERIAL NAILS? YES. OH, IS IT? OKAY. SHE LIVES IN THAT AREA, SO YEAH, ME TOO. WE'RE KIND OF CLOSE THEN. THANK YOU. YEAH, BECAUSE I JUST WONDERED IS HOW MUCH YOU COULD FIT IN THAT LITTLE AREA? 'CAUSE THAT THE STRIP, THE STRIP IS MO IT'S ALMOST NO, NO, NO. IT'S ACTUALLY THE VACANT LOT BETWEEN THE STRIP CENTER AND THE GAS STATION IN THE BACK ON THERE. MM-HMM . THERE, THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED AREA. ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE, UH, CLINIC. I JUST DROVE OUT THERE TODAY. I FORGET WHAT WAS ON. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, A GRAND PRAIRIE CLINIC NE ACROSS FROM THERE. OKAY. SO THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. WELL THAT DOESN'T HELP ME BECAUSE I DON'T READ . I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT VISUAL. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF CAMP WISDOM SITE. THAT'S WHY I WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD WHERE IT WAS. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING. THAT'S IT FOR ME. ALRIGHT. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 22 FEE SCHEDULE. AND REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO AMEND OUR DEFINITION OF THE IMP OR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE IMPACT FEE. UM, CURRENTLY THE UDC JUST DEFINES IT AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE TWO AD HOC MEMBERS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE LAW. UH, SO THIS IS JUST UPDATING THAT DEFINITION TO INCLUDE THOSE TWO MEMBERS. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSION'S, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY AD HOC, AD HOC TO US OR AD HOC TO STAFF TO THE IMPACT ADVISORY IMPACT BOARD, THE IMPACT STAFF. SO THE BOARD WILL BE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS PLUS TO AD HOC MEMBERS. SO ONE OF THEM IS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL AND ONE OF THEM IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ETJ AREA. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, IS THAT A PART OF OUR GROUP? IS THAT ADDED TO OUR, OUR, OUR ENTITY? OR IS THAT SEPARATE? I'M, I'M STILL NOT FOLLOWING THAT. IT'S, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY WHERE, UH, YOU GUYS ARE PART OF THE MEMBERS AND IT'S THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT, THAT MAKE UP THAT IMPACT [00:15:01] FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE COMING TO ADVISE US. WILL THEY BE SITTING UP HERE WITH US OR WHAT? I'M JUST, NO, WHAT IT IS, IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. MM-HMM . THE ADVISORY BOARD IS, ITS ON BOARD. Y'ALL JUST HAPPEN TO BE A PART OF THAT BOARD. . AND THEN WE ARE ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS PER STATE REGULATIONS, ARCHITECTURE, A PERSON FROM ARCHITECTURE RELATED FIELD, AND A PERSON FROM THE ETJ. SO THAT'S, AND THEY'RE AD HOC. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND FIND THEM. BUT Y'ALL STILL SERVE AS Y'ALL ARE SERVING AS P AND Z AND THE CAPITAL ADVISORY BOARD? I GUESS I'M JUST GETTING, TRYING TO GET THAT VISUAL THAT THEY'RE GONNA JUST BE OFFERING ADVICE. THEY WON'T NECESSARILY BE HERE WITH US OR NOT EVEN AT THE MEETINGS. NO, THEY'RE GONNA BE JUST LIKE Y'ALL. OKAY. THEY SERVE ON THE BOARD JUST LIKE YOU WOULD MM-HMM . SO IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT SPECIAL IN ANY SENSE. WE JUST, PER PER STATE LAW, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THESE PROFESSIONS AND BE FROM THAT SPECIFIC AREA. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. OKAY. PERFECT. WELL THEY REPRESENT A DISTRICT OR ARE THEY GONNA REPRESENT THE CITY OR NO, NO. ONE WILL BE JUST FROM A, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE REAL ESTATE OR ARCHITECTURE RELATED PROFESSION. THE OTHER WILL REPRESENT SOMEWHAT OF AN AREA. HE JUST NEEDS TO BE IN THE ETJ. IT IS, IT'S A BIT CONFUSING. 'CAUSE YOU'RE WONDERING, ARE THEY GONNA PHYSICALLY SIT UP HERE? ARE THEY GONNA YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA BE A PART OF JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ISSUE? FOR THE IMPACT? JUST FOR THE IMPACT FEE. OKAY. YES. AND THEY'LL BE HERE NEXT MEETING ONCE WE GET 'EM, ONCE WE GET, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE STATUS IS ON THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S PART OF THE DELAY ON THE, I JUST DON'T RECALL EVER HAVING AN AD HOC THERE. THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER MEMBERS. IT MUST HAVE BEEN AGES AND AGES AGO. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST TRYING TO GET THAT VISUAL. GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. AND WE ARE HAVING THE TECHNICAL ISSUES ADDRESSED. I THINK WE HAVE TO RESTART THE SYSTEM. THEY'RE WORKING ON IT IN THE BACK. WE ALREADY DONE. SO WE'RE BASICALLY DONE WITH BRIEFING AT THIS POINT. YES. SO NO MORE, UH, CASES. SO THIS, UH, BRIEFING IS ADJOURNED AND AT FIVE 6:00 PM AND WE'LL RESTART AT 6:30 PM YES MA'AM. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. MEETING OF JUNE, JUNE 26TH, 2023. I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED. NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION. HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA. INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITH, WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD. THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA BEING CALLED. ITEM BEING CALLED. I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE CHERYL SMITH. HERE. MAX COLEMAN. HERE. ANNA [Call to Order] COCA CARL RAMIREZ. FRANK GONZALEZ. HERE. JOHN FCO. MICHELLE MADDEN. HERE. JULIA PEREZ. HERE. QUENTIN PETE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR ANNA COCA CALLED RAMIREZ. JOHN FCO. AND QUENTIN PETE. AND NOW WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ. AND I'LL LEAD IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE US AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE AS SERVING OUR CITY. AS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, WE PRAY THAT AS WE DISCUSS OUR AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL ALWAYS PUT THE PEOPLE'S INTEREST ABOVE OUR OWN. REMIND US, FATHER, THAT WE ARE IN THIS POSITION NOT TO SERVE, BUT TO SERVE OUR DISTRICTS AND OUR CITIES. PEOPLE GIVE US THE GRACE LORD TO COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE AND MORALLY RIGHT SOLUTIONS [00:20:01] THAT WILL BEST BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS OF OUR GRAND PRAIRIE. PLEASE PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, CITY OFFICIALS, CITY STAFF, AND OUR PRECIOUS FAMILIES. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. ACCORDING TO ALLEGIANCE, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WIT. CHANCE ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON UNDER TEXAS FLAG, I ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE. IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY. THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT. ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING. SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT. IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO. MADAM CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE [PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA] NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA. MADAM CHAIR? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE JUNE 12TH, 2023 P AND Z MEETING. AND ITEM TWO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER MAX COLEMAN. AND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. [3 STP-23-02-0004 - Site Plan - Belt Line Industrial (City Council District 1). Site Plan for a 166,920 sq. ft. office/warehouse building on 35.07 acres. A 35.07-acre tract out of Levi Franklin Survey, Abstract No. 470, City of Grand Prairie & City of Irving, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-39 and Heavy Industrial (HI), within the Belt Line Corridor Overlay District, with an approximate addressed of 2451 S. Beltline Road] THE ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA IS A SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR BELTLINE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE. IT'S SHOWN THE, UH, PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED HERE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES. THIS LOT WILL BE SUBDIVIDED INTO, UH, ABOUT A NINE ACRE LOT AND A 25 ACRE LOT, WHICH WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR FLOOD PLAIN MITIGATION. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE, UM, NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT. IT WILL BE ABOUT 16, UH, 167 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE WAREHOUSE. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE UDC REQUIREMENT FOR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE MEETING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIREMENT AND THEY ARE PROVIDING MITIGATION FEE AS REQUIRED BY OUR UH, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE, UH, IMAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THIS IS GENERALLY HOW THE BUILDING WILL LOOK. THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH OUR APPENDIX STANDARD FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND THAT THE RC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMERS, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JUNE, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FROM FROM THE APPLICANT? I DUNNO IF THEY'RE NOT MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WAIT, EXCUSE ME. OH, WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. I JUST WANTED, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FROM THE A APPLICANT. JESUS AGAO WHO? OKAY. SO COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE PAUSED? NO DISCUSSION. WE'RE GOOD. THAT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. JUNE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM THREE STP 23 DASH OH TWO DASH 0 0 4 SITE PLAN FOR THE BELT LINE INDUSTRIAL, UH, AND WITH APPROVAL. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ. AS PER UH, DRC RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM. YES, [4 ZON-23-05-0019 – PD Amendment/Concept Plan – Hamilton-Matthew Business Center Phase 2 (City Council District 4). Application for Amendment to PD-30 to adopt a Concept Plan for an office/warehouse development on 6.431 acres. A portion of Tract 2.2, out of the Memucan Hunt Survey, Abstract No. 1723, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned PD-30, within I20 Corridor Overlay, and addressed as 4200 Matthew Rd] THE PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA IS ZON 23 0 5 0 0 1 9 PD AMENDMENT AND THE CONCEPT PLAN ADOPTION FOR HAMILTON MATTHEWS BUSINESS CENTER. SO, UM, THE OUTLINE SHOWN IS JUST THE AREA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE LEGAL BOUNDARY OF THIS [00:25:01] PROPERTY. SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE A CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS PD 30. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO OTHER CONS PLANS. SO THIS IS MORE OF WHAT THE PLANNING DIVISION HAS BEEN, UM, ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANTS TO DO SO. PD 30 IS, WAS, UH, THIS WAS ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE BACK IN 1980 AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER PDS. WE'RE RIGHT AT 400 SOMETHING NUMBERS FOR PDS RIGHT NOW. UH, SO THE OLDER PDS, WE DID NOT REQUIRE A CONCEPT PLAN BACK THEN. SO AS WE'RE MAKING CHANGES, WE ARE REALIZING THE BENEFIT OF A HAVING CONCEPT PLAN BEFORE THEY COME THROUGH A SITE PLAN. SO THIS IS ONE OF THESE EFFORT BY THE STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD GO HERE. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PD. SO PD COMPARED TO WHAT WE APPROVE THESE DAYS WAS VERY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT WAS JUST MOSTLY LAND DESCRIPTION WHAT THE AREAS COULD BE USED FOR. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE AREA SHOWN AS NUMBER FIVE, THAT ENTIRE AREA WAS DESIGNATED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THEM DEVELOP, SOME OF 'EM STILL REMAINING VACANT. THE, UH, PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CASE. THEY HAVE MET THE DENSITY AND THE MENSTRUAL REQUIREMENT. SO I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU THAT, UM, THEY ACTUALLY DID A SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS TO THE EAST. IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROPO. UM, WILL, WILL BE WHAT IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING WILL BE KIND OF CENTERED AROUND THAT LOT. IT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM THE BARDEN ROAD, NOT FROM THE MATT ROAD AND THE CREEK AND THE BACK WILL REMAIN BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT FOR FLOOD FLOOD MITIGATION. SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A CONSEQUENCE THAT ASSURES THE PLANNING DIVISION WHAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED THERE. THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING TO CHANGE TO THE ZONING. PROPOSED USE IS ALL ALREADY ALLOWED BY RIGHT BY THE, UH, EXISTING PD. SO THIS GIVES US THE CITY A LITTLE BIT OF ASSURANCE OF WHAT CAN GO THERE. IF THEY DEVIATE SUBSTANTIALLY FROM THIS, THEY'LL LIKELY HAVE TO COME, COME BACK FOR A CON PLAN AMENDMENT AND ALL THE REGULATIONS TO COMPLY WITH, UH, ALL THE D UH, UDC REQUIREMENTS AND THE FLOOD PLAIN. IT WILL BE DEALT WITH DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, WHICH WILL COME TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL IN THE LATER. SO THIS, AS I HAVE SAID, UM, DURING THE DISCUSSION, I KNOW YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE TRUCK STOCK WILL BE. SO THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS BEING PLANNED FOR MORE OF A SEMIS RATHER THAN THE 18 WHEELERS. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TRUCK PART, KIND OF A VERY SMALL AREA TUCKED IN THE BAG THAT WILL BE HIDDEN FROM, UH, HIDDEN BY, SCREENED BY THE WING. UH, THE, THE CORNER WALLS THAT ARE BEING EXTENDED AS SUCH. AND THIS WILL BE THE CONCEPT OF ELEVATIONS, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT IS UNDER CONSORTIUM TO THE WEST, AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER. SO WE DID, UM, RECEIVE FIVE RESPONSES, BUT HOWEVER, UH, TWO LETTERS WERE SENT FROM SAME ADDRESS. SO IT ONLY COUNT AS FOUR. UH, I'M SORRY. SO FOUR, UH, OPPOSITION LETTERS AND ONE IN SUPPORT. SO THE TWO LETTERS, UM, THAT ARE KIND OF SHOWN THE NORTH ON THE ERNIE LANES, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MISUNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT ANY TR TRAFFIC ON MATT ROAD AND I THINK THEY WERE SURPRISED BY THE 4,200 MATTHEW. UM, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS, UH, PROPERTY WILL BE ACCESSED FROM THE BARTON ROAD AS SHOWN. I THINK WE DON'T ASSIGN, UM, OFFICIAL ADDRESS UNTIL SOMETHING DEVELOPS. I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT MATTHEW ROAD HAS BEEN THERE FOR LIKE, HISTORICALLY JUST TO KIND OF REPRESENT THE CORNER OF THE MATTHEW. SO THOSE TWO, UH, COMMENTS WERE KIND OF BASED ON A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION OF BA BASED ON THE ADDRESSES. SO WE DID RECEIVE TWO OPPOSITION LETTER FROM THE, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT. THE PERSON WHO SUPPORTED THE REQUEST, HE ACTUALLY CALLED THE PLANNING DIVISION ASKING WHAT THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT. ONCE HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AND UM, ACTUALLY ENDED UP SUBMITTING A LETTER FOR SUPPORT. SO WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS IT ALIGNS WITH THE HOUSTON PD AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MEET ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS STEP? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? JUST ONE QUESTION. YES MA'AM. YOU SAID IT WON'T BE SEMIS, IT'LL BE 18 WHEELERS. THOSE ARE THE SAME THING. OH, BOX TRUCKS? NO, NO, I SAID IT WON'T BE 18 WHEELERS. IT'LL BE JUST BOX TRUCKS AND THERE'LL BE SMALLER VEHICLES IS WHAT THEY WERE THINKING OF. BOX TRUCKS, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A CON PLAN. SO AS THEY WORK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, IF THEY NEED MORE SPACE IN THE BACK, THEY WILL HAVE TO ADJUST THAT. BUT THAT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS PROVIDED THAT IT WILL NOT LIKELY BE AN 18 WHEELER'S PARKED IN THERE IN THE LOADING DOCKS IN THE BACK. MM-HMM . OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PARKING FOR THAT, BUT, OKAY. RIGHT. YEAH. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES MA'AM. IS THERE GONNA BE A MASONRY WALL? YES. SO YOU'LL BE A CONCRETE TILT TOP WALL. UM, I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT WE APPROVED TO THE NORTH. SO, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCED MET REQUIREMENT, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR APPENDIX X. AND WE WILL REVIEW THAT DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW. [00:30:01] SO THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, MEANING IT COULD CHANGE, BUT THEIR INTENT IS TO MEET, COMPLY WITH THE, UH, REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE. WHAT'S GONNA BE THE HEIGHT ON THAT WALL? UM, I BELIEVE JUST A GUESSTIMATE. YES. IS IT GONNA BE SIX OR EIGHT? IT'S GENERALLY ONE OR THE OTHER, RIGHT? ? YES, I BELIEVE IT IS. I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. YOU'LL GIMME A TIME. I THINK THEY'RE LISTING THREE, THREE FEET. THREE FEET. 33. MM-HMM . THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED HEIGHT, I BELIEVE IS 50 FEET. SO THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING A 33 FEET HEIGHT BUILDING. WERE THERE ANY, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORS? NO, BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS A CON PLAN AND WE TYPICALLY ENCOURAGE THEM WHEN THERE IS A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE ZONING THAT IT'S CHANGING AND THE CON PLAN THAT THEY'RE PRESENTING WILL BE ACCEPTABLE. AND TYPICALLY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, HIGHER DENSITY. MM-HMM . LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN JUST TO COMMUNICATE. THIS HELPS US TIE THEM DOWN TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SITE PLAN LAYOUT RATHER THAN ALLOWING A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1980S, WHICH IS EARLIER THAN SOME OF THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT CAME IN. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THEY, WHEN THEY CAME IN THERE WAS ALREADY IN THE TITLE POLICY. YES. RIGHT? MM-HMM . COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. UH, THANK YOU. JUNE. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS. THE FIRST ONE BEING FROM THE APPLICANT, JONATHAN TOOLEY. UH, HE INDICATED THAT HE WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT AND JUST IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. AND THE SECOND ONE, UH, THE SECOND UH, SPEAKER CARD IS MICHAEL DECOSTA, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. OKAY, SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, UH, RECORD. I AM MICHAEL LACOSTA. AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE BE PRESENT. YOU ALL WITH THIS BEFORE SO YOU CAN READ IT EASIER. OKAY. I HAVE A JAMAICAN ACCIDENT. I WANNA MAKE SURE. YES, IF YOU COULD JUST SAY YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. MICHAEL ACOSTA, 2316 ABINGTON LANE. GRAND PRAIRIE. OKAY. IF I COULD ASK FOR THAT RED MARK AREA TO BE PUT UP. I'LL SHOOT TO SAY STATE MY OBJECTION. JUST ONE MINUTE. JUNE, CAN YOU PUT UP THE, UH, YES. SHE'LL PUT IT UP FOR YOU, SIR. WAS THERE A SPECIFIC YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OR IS THIS THE RED MARKED AREAS, SPECIFICALLY? THE RED MARKED AREA. RIGHT. GOOD. THAT RED MARK AEL IS IN MY BACKYARD. IT'S RIGHT IN THE BACK OF ABINGTON LANE WHENEVER I, I AM IN MY BACKYARD. I'M SEEING THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ACROSS THE ROAD FROM, UM, BARTON ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH I DESCRIBED THERE, IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING SHE MADE REFERENCE THAT IT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT WAS BUILT THERE. IT'S ALL APARTMENTS THAT IS PRESENTLY BEING BUILT. NOT ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ANYTHING. NOTHING. THE ONLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS AT THE END OF THE OTHER BLOCK AT THE SAME BLOCK AT THE OTHER END AT GREAT SOUTHWEST WHERE YOU HAVE A PHARMACY. SO WHEN SHE'S MAKING REFERENCE THAT IT IS ZONED AS, THAT IT IS ACTUALLY ZONED AS PART OF THE, UH, TRINITY RIVER WATERSHED. IT STARTS THERE AND GOES DOWN AND IT'S A CLEAR MARKER OF WHERE THE TRINITY RIVER WATERSHED IS. I WALK IT EVERY MORNING OR, WELL, NOT EVERY OTHER MORNING. SO I'M VERY AWARE THAT IT IS THAT, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE THAT THERE FROM THE EIGHTIES WHEN IT WAS THIS HOUSING WAS DEVELOPED, SHE CANNOT POINT OUT ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ON THAT ENTIRE BLOCK. AND I'M, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND AS I SAID IN THAT LETTER, WE WILL NOT PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO I AM SAYING NO. UH, UM, COMMERCIAL BUILDING SHOULD BE ON THE, UM, BACKYARDS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT IS IN MY BACKYARD ON ABINGTON RIGHT THERE. I SEE IT RIGHT THERE. IF IT WAS ALL YOU GUYS, YOU WOULD NOT WANT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN YOUR BACKYARD. IT AFFECTS 12 HOMES IN ABINGTON AND IT ALSO AFFECTS THOSE 12 HOMES ON CLARENDON IN THAT CORNER. BUT ESPECIALLY ABINGTON IN ABINGTON'S BACKYARD. [00:35:02] I INVITE YOU ALL TO COME INTO MY YARD AND I SHOW IT TO YOU. OKAY. WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS. DON'T LEAVE. OH, CHAIR MADDEN WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU SOMETHING. YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT. UM, I I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I, I I CAN TELL YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. SO THE AREA, IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, THE AREA, UM, THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS THE RED. AND SO ALL THOSE TREES ARE GONNA REMAIN BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND YOURS JUST, I'M JUST MAKING THE STATEMENT. ALL THE WHAT'S BACK, THE TREES IN THE IMAGE. MM-HMM . THE TREES BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE BACKSIDE OF EVERYBODY ON ABINGTON WILL STAY. SO THAT'S ONE THING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE STATEMENT, IF THAT HELPS ANY. AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE AREA THAT THEIR APARTMENTS IS FURTHER DOWN BARRED IN, THAT'S ZONED DIFFERENTLY. SO THIS HAS BEEN ZONED. YES. YES. I, SHE JUST SAID IT WAS V LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT. SHE CANNOT NAME ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING RIGHT THERE, SIR. THIS, THIS HERE RIGHT THERE IS, IT'S, IT'S ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THERE, BUT IF YOU MOVE FURTHER WEST, IT'S MULTIFAMILY. AND THAT'S WHY THOSE APARTMENTS ARE THERE ACROSS FROM UM, I THINK IT'S LIEUTENANT, UM, KING BOULEVARD THAT COMES BETWEEN WALMART AND, UM, SOME OF THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS. THAT'S ABOUT APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY STARTS. SO FROM THERE DOWN IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR FOR A WHILE. AND THEN FROM THERE TO THE EAST, IT'S UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, LIKE SHE MENTIONED. IT'S JUST NOT BUILT YET. SO I AGREE WITH HER TO THE EAST TO THAT SIDE IS LIKE INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT. WHERE I AM POINTING OUT THAT RED MARK AREA RIGHT. IS THE BACKYARD OF RESIDENTIAL. I UNDERSTAND THE ONLY REASON WHY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE NOT THERE YET, THERE IS LIKE A SWAMP THAT IS THERE AT DISTINCT SWAMP IS THERE, THAT IS PART OF THE START OF THE, UH, TRINITY RIVER BASIN BECAUSE A SWAMP IS STILL THERE. I SEE. RIGHT. AND IT IS DRAINS DOWN INTO THE TRINITY RIVER BASIN. RIGHT. SO INSTEAD OF THE STORE AND INVITING YOU TO ACTUALLY GO THERE AND LOOK, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PRETEND THAT THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WELL, IT IS NOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THERE'S NOT ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THERE. SIR, SIR, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. BUT DON'T LEAVE. WE ARE GONNA HAVE, UH, ONE OF OUR STAFF TO ADDRESS THAT RASHAD. YEAH. IF I MAY. SURE. SO THIS MAP, IF YOU'RE LOOKING, OH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY HERE. YOU HAVE BARDEN, YOU HAVE MATTHEW MM-HMM . THE APARTMENT COMPLEX YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS ACTUALLY OFF THE MAP. THEY'RE PARTIALLY BEING BUILT OFF THE MAP. AND THEN YOU HAVE PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS ALREADY APPROVED FOR A SITE PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL. THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AS WELL. THERE IS A CREEK IN BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH. YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED WITHIN THIS FLOODPLAIN. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY DEVELOPMENT. SO THE TRAIN, THE, THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT FLOODPLAIN IS GONNA REMAIN AS A BARRIER FROM YOU AND THIS INDUSTRIAL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT YOU REMAIN THERE. MM-HMM . BUT YOU ARE MISDIRECTING WHERE THE, UH, THE WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE. THE HOUSING IS RIGHT UP TO THIS REMARK. NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. I INVITED TO WALK AT ME 'CAUSE I WALK IT EVERY DAY. SIR, I UNDERSTAND THIS AREA. MY STAFF UNDERSTAND THIS AREA. WE ARE CITY PLANNERS AND MM-HMM . THE BOUNDARIES ARE SHOWN AS THEY ARE FOR THAT PROPERTY. MM-HMM . AND YOU SEE THE BOUNDARY DOES NOT ABUT THE RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 50 YARDS OR MORE IN BETWEEN. THAT'S GONNA REMAIN. AND ACTUALLY DEVELOPER'S NOT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY TO THE, THE RED PROPERTY LINE. MM-HMM . THERE'S GONNA BE, THE BUILDING'S GONNA BE FURTHER AWAY. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE DOCKS FACING THAT AREA. MM-HMM . SO YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT BUFFER. IT'S GONNA BE A DEVELOP ACCORDING TO THAT SITE PLAN SHOWN HERE. SO YOU SEE HERE, THESE DOTTED LINES ARE REPRESENTING THE FLOOD PLAIN. THE FLOOD PLAN IS RIGHT THERE. YES. OKAY. SO THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPING NORTH OF THE FLOOD PLAIN. MM-HMM . YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE ALL THAT VEGETATION AND TREES WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN. AND THEY CAN'T AFFECT IT. THEY CAN'T INCREASE THE FLOW OR DECREASE THE FLOW THE, THE CAPACITY OF THE FLOOD PLANT. MM-HMM . CIVIL PLANS WON'T BE APPROVED UNLESS THAT IS VERIFIED. I GOT YOU. OKAY. WILL IT BE THE MASONARY WALL? I'M THE, I'M OF THE OPINION MASON, YOU ARE LOWERING WHERE THE FLOOD PLAN, THE, THIS ZONE STARTS, I SAY IT STARTS AT BARTON. YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY IT STARTS HERE. [00:40:01] THAT'S THE ONLY, THE FLOOD BETWEEN YOU AND FLOWS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. YES. YES. BUT FLOOD PLAIN IS NOT ZONING. OKAY. OKAY. FLOOD PLAN IS NOT ZONING. MM-HMM . SO YOU HAVE ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR SPECIFIC USES. FLOOD PLAIN IS A DESIGNATION THAT WE, WE FOLLOW FROM FEMA. SO THIS IS AREA THAT IS NATURAL FLOW FROM TRINITY, AS YOU MENTIONED. MM-HMM . THAT MUST BE RETAINED. MM-HMM . IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THOSE FLOODING THAT FLOOD AREA SOMEWHERE ELSE. MM-HMM . THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO THAT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE. IF THEY ARE MM-HMM . THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW HOW THEY DON'T AFFECT THE FLOOD PLAYING FLOW IN THIS AREA. DOWNSTREAM OR UPSTREAM. RASHAD, IS THAT GONNA BE THE MASONRY WALL AS WELL ON THAT OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MASONRY WALL PROPOSED. IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED DURING THE SITE PLAN PHASE BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY LOCATE. IF IT'S REQUIRED, THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT LATER. SO YEAH. WHERE'S THAT MASONRY WALL WILL BE PLACED HERE THEN? WELL AT THIS TIME, THIS IS JUST THE CONCEPT PLAN. MM-HMM . THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN MM-HMM . AND DO THE SITE PLAN. AND THE SITE PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE IN ADHERENCE WITH THIS CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN WE'LL NOTE THE SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR THAT WALL. MM-HMM . SO THERE'S MORE DETAIL TO BE FOUGHT MM-HMM . TO COME TO FALL. OKAY. WHENEVER I SEE THE MORE DETAILS ABOUT PROTECTING THAT, YOU KNOW, FLOOD ZONE AND MY BACKYARD. 'CAUSE I SAID I AM ALREADY SEEN ACROSS THE ROAD. YES. EVERY WINTER LOUD AND CLEAR. MM-HMM . I'M STRONG ENOUGH TO THROW STONE TO BACK UP THAT BUILDING. I GOT YOU. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT AS BIG AS YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT. OKAY. NO IT'S NOT. I KNOW IT'S NOT THAT HUGE OF A BUSINESS. IT'S IN OR BACKYARDS. YES. I I BUT THE ZONING IS THE ZONING. THIS HAS ALLOWED USE ON THIS ZONING, THIS PROPERTY, WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN THE SITE PLAN IS SUBMITTED. MM-HMM . IF YOU PROVIDE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, ONE OF OUR STAFF WILL CONTACT YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR A SITE PLAN. MM-HMM . THAT'S NOT A NOTIFICATION. BUT WE CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS GONNA BE COMING TO AN AGENDA AND YOU CAN REVIEW THOSE PLANS AS NEEDED. OKAY. OKAY? MM-HMM. OKAY. NEXT, TAKE ONE STEP AT THE TIME. YES SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING, BUT WE DIDN'T, I WILL GIVE MY NAME AND ADDRESS. YES SIR. YES SIR. WHICH CHAIRMAN IS DIRECTOR. YES. AND, AND ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR YOUR HOME, THE TITLE POLICY WOULD STATE WHAT WAS COMMERCIAL AND WHAT WAS RESIDENTIAL. IT DISTINCTLY SAID RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. AND IT DISTINCTLY MENTIONED THE, UM, FLOOD ZONE AREA. AND IT GAVE US THE IMPRESSION IT WENT AS FAR AS MATTHEW AND BARDEN. 'CAUSE I DISTINCTLY ASKED MM-HMM . AND THEY EXPLAINED, DROVE AROUND TO ME SAYING IT STARTED RIGHT AT THAT CORNER, WHICH I MENTIONED THAT THAT'S WHERE THE FLOOD ZONE STARTS. I THINK THAT WAS WHAT IN, IN THE EIGHTIES WAS THAT, IS THAT, HOW LONG IS IT? 1980 SURPRIS. EIGHTIES. AND I WAS SAYING THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS, BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN GRAY AT THAT TIME AND THEY TOLD YOU THAT MM-HMM . BUT TECHNICALLY WHAT WE HAVE TOLD YOU IS TRUE. SO WE NOT I'M YEAH. RIGHT. THE GENTLEMAN IS A MAN. I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT AT THE SAME MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT INCLUDED THE FLOOD ZONE AND IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT SHOULD BE BUILT THERE. WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE HE SORT OF SEPARATING IT A BIT. RIGHT. TO THE FLOOD ZONE THERE. AND THAT'S, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO, UH, UH, THE CITY OFFICES AND REVIEW THAT INFORMATION. THEY'LL SHOW YOU, THEY'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT IF YOU'D LIKE. RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD, THAT PROB THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT WE, WE, YES. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH A A, A, A 35 FOOT WALL IN THE BACK OF MY HOME. MM-HMM . I'D RATHER SEE TREES, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. BUT HE'S SAYING THAT IT'S STILL BE SEPARATED. RIGHT. YOU WILL BE SEPARATED. YOU, MY PROBLEM IS BE TREES. MY IS YES. WE ALL START OUT WITH HUSH PUPPY COMPANIES. MM-HMM . AND THOSE PUPPIES BECOME BULLDOGS AND MASSIVES. SO THEY'LL PRESENT TO YOU THIS TINY LIKE PROJECT THAT MUSHROOMS INTO BULLDOGS AND MASSIVES SO THAT THE LARGE PUPPY PROGRAM THAT NO CORNER WILL EXPAND. IT SHOULDN'T START. IF IT DON'T START, YOU CANNOT EXPAND. WELL SIR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GROWING AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT. IF THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT ON THEIR PROPERTIES. EXACTLY. SO YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT. I'D LOVE TO INVITE THEM. IKEA HAS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE AROUND THEM. MM-HMM . UM, FOR COMMERCIAL, UM, PEOPLE, SIR IN FRONT OF LONE STAR PARK. JUST IN SIR. YES. SO I REALLY INVITE THEM TO GO THERE. OKAY. INSTEAD OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YES SIR. YES SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING, RICHARD. THANK YOU. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY TO END THAT? I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT EXPANDING. THEY'RE GONNA BE HELD TO THIS CONCEPT PLAN. WHAT WE CAN DO THOUGH AGAIN, IS GET YOUR INFORMATION, I WILL GIVE YOU MY INFORMATION. OKAY. UM, THE TROUBLE IS, AS I SAID, I HAVE LIVED A LONG LIFE TO KNOW MANY COMPANIES TO START WHAT IS [00:45:01] A HUSH PUPPY COMPANY TONIGHT. BUT YOU FAIL WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL IT TO BULLDOG COMPANIES. MM-HMM. MASSIVE COMPANIES AND EVERYTHING CHANGES. SO IF YOU DON'T START, IT CANNOT GO THERE. MANY OF THEM IS SIMPLY GETTING PUT IN THE DOOR. WELL THIS IS A PUT IN THE DOOR IN A COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S MY SIDE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT INFORMATION. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? UH, MATT, UH, TIFFANY TELLS ME WE HAVE A FEW MORE ON THE WAY. I DON'T HAVE 'EM APPARENTLY IN MY POSSESSION. OKAY. SHE, UH, HAS A SPEAKER CARD. UH, WE HAVE ONE FROM DEBORAH JOHNSTON WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. MS. JOHNSTON, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU. UH, DEBORAH JOHNSTON, 1651 ERNIE LANE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS. I LIVE OFF RIGHT OFF OF MATTHEW ROAD THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE RIGHT NOW. UM, THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME IS EXACTLY RIGHT. UM, I'VE NEVER HEARD IT EXPLAINED QUITE LIKE THAT, BUT THEY SHOW YOU ALL THESE PRETTY LITTLE PICTURES AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE END UP WITH. CURRENTLY. WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE APARTMENTS ALONG BARDEN ROAD. WE NOW TAKE ON ALL OF THE UPS, UM, TRAFFIC AND TRUCKS, DOUBLE TRUCKS THAT COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH BARDON, THROUGH MATTHEW. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE THE, THE NEW APARTMENTS THAT, PLUS OUR EXISTING STUFF THAT WE DO. NUMBER ONE, I RIDE MY BICYCLE BY THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY. THERE WAS NEVER A SIGN POSTED BY THE OWNER ON MATTHEW ROAD. AND THIS IS A, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A MATTHEW ROAD BUSINESS CENTER AND A MATTHEW ROAD ADDRESS. AND THE REASON THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE MATTHEW ROAD IS A NO TRUCK ROAD UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ADDRESS ON THAT ROAD. OKAY. I'VE EVEN SPOKEN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM TO KNOW ABOUT FIRES, POLICE AND EVERYTHING IF IT HAD A BARDEN ROAD, IF Y'ALL SHOULD. OKAY. THIS, UM, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT ANYWAY, BUT SHOULD YOU OKAY. IT, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A BARDEN ROAD ADDRESS. OKAY. THAT WAY THEY CAN'T USE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE IN AND OUT ON VICKY VINEYARD AND ERNIE, THAT'S OUR ONLY WAY IN AND OUT OF OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. 'CAUSE WE'RE CUL-DE-SACS BY CHOICE. UM, AND WANNA KEEP OUR CUL-DE-SACS. UM, BUT ANYWAY, WHEN THE TRUCKS AND STUFF START COMING UP AND DOWN THERE, THAT'S GONNA RUN OUR AMBIANCE OF OUR WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. BOTH OF THOSE WAREHOUSES THAT ARE THERE NOW, THE FLEXING GATE AND STUFF, THE ONLY TIME WE'RE GETTING A TRUCK RIGHT NOW IS IF THEY'RE LOST, YOU KNOW, OR THEY'RE WANTING TO SLEEP, THEN WE, UH, JUST PULL UP, GIVE 'EM A LITTLE HONK, SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COMES BY HERE AND PATROLS THIS AND THAT USUALLY GETS 'EM ROLLING. BUT SOMETIMES I HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE ON IT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'LL KEEP ON HAPPENING. ANYWAY, MY POINT WAS THIS REALLY IS NOT A PLACE FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS PARK TO GO ALONG WITH THE BUSINESS PARK BESIDE IT, TO GO ALONG WITH, HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL DRIVEN DOWN BARDEN LATELY AND SEEN ALL THE APARTMENTS? MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU, YOU GET IT. WHAT I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A BIG SIX ACRES IN THE CORNER THERE WITH ALL THE LIVE WILDLIFE AND TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IS, IS, UM, GONNA BE TAKEN AWAY THIS, AND IT'S GONNA BE HORRENDOUS FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AMEN. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONER, YOU CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE. YES MA'AM, SIR. AND, UH, , THEY EXPLAINED THAT THE PROPERTY IS ZONED CURRENTLY FOR THE FOLKS TO DO WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THAT THEY USED A MATTHEW ROAD ADDRESS FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLA AND STUFF. UHHUH . BUT THIS WAREHOUSE WILL HAVE A BARDEN ADDRESS. OKAY. BUT THE SITUATION HERE IS IT'S ZONED PROPERLY FOR THEM TO DO IT. IT'S A PD 30. RIGHT. IT'S, UH, INDUSTRIAL ZONING. YEAH. SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN BILL WITHOUT GOING THROUGH. REALLY? IF THEY DIDN'T MESS FOR ANY VARIANCES, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE COMING BEFORE US, I BELIEVE. RIGHT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING BEFORE YOU WITH THE CONCEPT LAND. THE CONCEPT PLAN IS PART, THEY'RE NOT ZONING. THEY'RE ASKING FOR, FOR ANY VARIANCES TO BUILD THE PROPERTY AND STUFF. MM-HMM . SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. OKAY. AS, AND BUT THEY DID EXPLAIN THAT THEY, UH, WOULD HAVE A BARDEN ADDRESS, NOT A MA MATTHEW ROAD ADDRESS. CORRECT. I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS, BUT WHAT WAS THE BACK ROAD TO PROTECT ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORS IN THE CREEK? WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THE, THE PROPERTY'S ZONED FOR WHAT THEY WANNA BUILD MM-HMM . AND, UH, THE CITY HAS, UH, ENGINEERS TO, UH, TO REVIEW THE FLOODPLAIN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TO, TO MITIGATE ANY, UH, WATER FLOW OR STUFF LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . OUT OF THERE. Y'ALL LIVE IN A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AREA. MM-HMM . YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LOTS [00:50:01] ARE ARE LARGE, BUT THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE HAS GROWN MM-HMM . MM-HMM . AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST OUTGROWING OUR SOCKS, SO TO SPEAK. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME, WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YOU SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE STREETS. YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS. I DID. WE DID 28 YEARS AGO WHEN WE LIVED THERE. YEAH. 30 YEARS AGO MM-HMM . YEAH. WITH THE, WE LOOKED AT LAKE RIDGE. LAKE RIDGE WAS PLANNED AS A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROAD. NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD, SHOULD BE, IT NEEDS TO BE AS BIG AS IT IS YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DID DO OUR HOMEWORK. WE DID DO THESE THINGS AND AS A PNZ AND AS A CITY COUNCIL, WE LOOK TO YOU GUYS, OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO PROTECT US IN THOSE CASES. AND SO FAR YOU'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR HANDS AREN'T TIED ON. SO HOLDING THESE DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN HERE AND HE, THAT GENTLEMAN'S RIGHT. THEY COME IN HERE AND THEY'RE GONNA FLIP THIS BUILDING IN TWO YEARS. THEY ALL DO. OPUS DID IT BACK 20 YEARS SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THE BIG FIGHT WE HAD, I LOST PERSONALLY OVER $20,000 IN ATTORNEY'S FEES HIRING SOMEBODY TO COME BACK AND FIGHT THAT ONE WITH WHEN, UH, MAYOR ENGLAND WAS HERE. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, AND WE GOT THAT NO TRUCK DESIGNATION FOR THAT ROAD. AND I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY KEEP COMING BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STILL STAYS IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S ALL NEW PLAYERS THESE DAYS. RIGHT. I DO THE SAME THING. I KNOW, BUT COMMISSIONER, UH, COLEMAN IS CORRECT WHAT HE TOLD YOU AND THAT WE ARE HERE AS WE'RE CITIZENS AS WELL. RIGHT. AND WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT YOU. BUT THE CITY, THE CITY HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY MM-HMM . AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BILL THERE. MM-HMM . THEY JUST HAVE A RIGHT. BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT AS THE STAGES GO ALONG, THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES SURE THAT TO PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY. OKAY. AND SO THE, THE, I THINK THAT THE, THE, UH, THE STAFF HAS ADVISED THAT THEY, YOU CAN COME IN TO THE OFFICE, THEY CAN EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO YOU MM-HMM . AND SHOW YOU HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK. AM I CORRECT, RASHAD? WELL, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE DETAILS OF THE CIVIL PLAN. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE WILL HAVE TO BE VETTED THROUGH OUR PROCESSES, ENGINEERS AND WHATNOT. SO, BUT THE UDC ADDRESSES DRAINAGE. MM-HMM . FLOODPLAIN SCREENING, LANDSCAPING, ALL THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED. THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT TO GIVE US THE IDEA OF HOW THIS BUILDING WILL LOOK. IF THERE'S SOME MAJOR ISSUES THAT Y'ALL DON'T LIKE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE A ADDRESSED HERE, BUT AS THEY'VE MENTIONED, THE USE IS ALLOWED. RIGHT. UM, SO, UH, WHAT THEY ARE SPEAKING TO, I'M NOT CERTAIN IF YOU WERE HERE, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING 18 WHEELERS AT THIS TIME. UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING BOX TRUCKS. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, SO THIS IS, I BELIEVE, GOING TO BE AN OFFICE TYPE BUILDING. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A, A TOTAL WAREHOUSE. MM-HMM. YES. I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING IT. MM-HMM . YES. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . SO FOUR FLOOR ROUND AND YES. THINGS LIKE THAT. I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING IT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ONE OTHER THING WHILE I HAVE Y'ALL'S ATTENTION, PLEASE QUIT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PUT BIG GIANT OAK TREES UNDERNEATH POWER LINES. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS. IT'S NOT THE PLANNING AND ZONING. SO, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND, UH, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY MORE CARDS? UH, MATT? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE TWO MORE CARDS. UH, ONE FROM JASPER WALKER AND ONE FROM JANINE WALKER. THAT'S 1622. ERNIE, BOTH OF WHICH WANT TO VOICE THEIR OPPOSITION, UH, BUT DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER CARDS? UH, NO. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST, WE ARE JUST APPROVING A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR IT. THIS USE, THIS IS NOT WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE END. THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN, UH, WE GET A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, THE, UH, CONCEPT PLAN. THE ITEM FOUR, UH, ZONE 23 DASH OH FIVE DASH 0 1 9 PD AMENDMENT CONCEPT PLAN FOR HAMILTON MATTHEW BUSINESS CENTER AT FOR APPROVAL. I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE. UH, ITEM FOUR BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS PER DRC. RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE PLEASE. [5 SUP-23-03-0011 - Specific Use Permit - 4049 Robinson Rd (City Council District 6). Specific Use Permit for a Convenience Store without Gasoline Sales on 0.484 acres. Tract 23, Stephen B McCommas Survey, Abstract No. 887, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-26, and addressed as 4049 Robinson Rd] YES, THE NEXT CASE IS THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS SUP 2 3 0 3 0 0 1 1. THIS IS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE AT 40 49 ROBINSON. SO CURRENTLY THE LAW HAS AN [00:55:01] EXISTING BUILDING. UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, REHAB, UM, THIS PLACE AS A CONVENIENCE STORE. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY GASOLINE SALES HERE. HOWEVER, THE CONVENIENCE STORE USED DOES REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE SUP. SO THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS KIND OF PROVIDED THE LOCATION OF HOW, UM, THE EXISTING SITE KIND OF LOOKS LIKE AND THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. UM, THE BUSINESS FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE WILL BE FROM NINE TO 10. THEY, UM, PLAN TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE AT ALL TIME WITH POSSIBLY TWO EMPLOYEES, UH, DEPENDING ON THE NEED. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND ITS CONDITIONS. UM, THE ONE, IT'S THE FRONT WALL FACING THE ROBINSON ROAD. THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS WHERE THEY'RE FACING THE, UM, EASEMENT, UM, ACCESS DRIVE FOR THE, UM, ON THE SIDE. ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES. SO BASED ON THE EXISTING CONDITION THAT DRC UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, BUT WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THESE FOLLOWING ADDIT, UH, CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED TO THE SUP APPROVAL, WHICH IS THAT ONE, THE APPLICANT SHOULD, UH, INSTALL A NEW DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WITH A CONCRETE PAD PER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES REQUIREMENT, AND THAT THE APPLICANT LOOK AT THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND PATCH ANY HOLES OR ANY, UH, PLACES THAT WILL HINDER VEHICLE TRAFFIC. AND THEN THE THIRD IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL REPAINT CLEAN THE SURFACE AND REPAINT THIS BUILDING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO. SO MM-HMM . UM, DID, HAS STAFF BEEN ABLE TO VISIT THE SITE? I HAVE, YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT PARKING LOT'S? YES. AWFUL. YES. SO PATCHING HOLES, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT IN TERMS OF THE DEGREE OF THE REC, UH, IMPROVEMENT THAT WE CAN REQUIRE FOR THE REQUEST. BECAUSE AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT THAT, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, ENGINEERING, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING ALL LOOKED AT THE OPTION OF BRINGING THAT UP TO CODE. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY'RE ALL IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH TODAY'S TO MEET THE, TODAY'S CURRENT STANDARD, IT'D BE SUBSTANTIAL COST ON THE APPLICANT. WE'RE OKAY WITH THE PLACE BEING REOCCUPIED AS LONG AS THE NECESSARY REPAIRS ARE DONE. BUT FOR US TO REQUIRE THEM TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT STATE. IT'S, IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, THAT'S WHY. RIGHT. YEAH. SO THE ROAD THAT RUNS RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN EXTENSION OF OUR, OUR LANE. I THINK IT IS. IT GOES TO THE BACK EMERGENCY EXIT OF THE APARTMENTS APARTMENT ONLY. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO ARE, IS THAT ROAD MAINTAINED BY THE CITY? NO. SO THAT HOUR LANE, THE WHOLE HOUR LANE ACROSS THE ROBINSON, THAT'S MORE OF A PRI IT'S BEING USED AS MORE OF A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S NOT THE CITY I'M TALKING ABOUT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. RIGHT. SO THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY USED BY THE EXCESS EASEMENT ONLY FOR THE APARTMENT TO, UH, FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO EXIT THAT WAY. IT'S NOT REALLY A PUBLIC STREET RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE STREET RIGHT NOW, WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS VERY FEASIBLE. LIKE I SAID, WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REQUEST. THEY JUST WANT TO REOCCUPY THE SPACE. MM-HMM . AND FOR US TO ASK THEM TO GO THROUGH THE FEMA REVIEW AND RAISE THE BUILDING AND TO DO WHOLE ANOTHER WORK THAT JUST LOOKED VERY SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, LARGE OF A TEST TO ASK. AND CAN YOU REMIND ME MM-HMM . WHAT, WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, A TRASH, UM, ENCLOSURE? YES, MA'AM. IT IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON A REINFORCED CONCRETE, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT OF THE DUMPSTER, UH, INC. UH, THE, THE ACTUAL TANK ITSELF. UHHUH, . MM-HMM . AND THEN DOES IT NEED DOORS? YES, IT REQUIRED TO POINT, DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT THIS POINT OR SO? IT JUST NEED, IT JUST CANNOT BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IN THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, BUT THEY NEED TO BE ENCLOSED ON THREE SIDES WITH MASONRY WALLS, TYPICALLY, LIKE A BRICK LET GO, ONE LAYER OF BRICK WITH A METAL GATE. OKAY. SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE LOOKED AT DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THIS, THE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. THANKS. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. CAN YOU PUT BACK, GO BACK TO THE BUILDING ITSELF. THE BUILDING IS VERY OLD. MM-HMM . I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA GO IN ON THE INSIDE. DOES IT NEED SPRINKLERS? IT'S LOOK LIKE IT'S NOT UP TO CODE. SO IT'S NOT GONNA NEED A SPRINKLERS PER SE, UNLESS THE FIRE REQUIRES IT. WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THAT. SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST REVIEWING IF WE'RE OKAY WITH ALLOWING CONVENIENCE STORE HERE BEFORE THEY CAN OCCUPY THE SPACE. OF COURSE, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH BUILDING PERMITS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS USABLE AND THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY OTHER HEALTH PERMITS AND STATE LICENSE FOR TA, ANYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS APPLICANT REUSING THIS EXISTING BUILDING FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE OR NOT? THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, YES, MA'AM, IS WHAT IS THE OTHER CLOSEST CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE AREA? UM, YOU KNOW, I DROVE AROUND THERE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY BECAUSE IT'S I 20 IN ROBINSON, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT I'M SURE IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE WEST THAT THERE'S A BUNCH, [01:00:01] BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MORE ESTABLISHED AREA THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . UH, COMMISSIONERS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN. BASICALLY THIS IS, UH, AN ABANDONED BUILDING. MM-HMM . THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, SO, IT'S LOST, IT LOST ANY RESIDUAL, UH, UH, UH, GRANDFATHER CLOSET TO PUT IT IN STUFF. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE HERE BEFORE, BUT IT, IT, AT LEAST THE SIGN SAID AT ONE POINT IT WAS APPLIANCE STORE, IT SEEMS LIKE. YES. AND THE KARATE, RIGHT? MAYBE THEY WERE OCCUPIED BY KARATE. A KARATE PARTY. YEAH. . YES, SIR. I, I THINK THIS IS A SUCH A MM-HMM . A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY. MM-HMM . OFF THAT PROBABLY COULD BE SEEN FROM 20, I WOULD THINK. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. MAYBE IT, IT'S LIKE, ANYWAY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD SEE IT DRIVING THROUGH MM-HMM . SO IT NEEDS TO BE A NICE, NICE FACILITY. I, I, I'M NOT FOR JUST REHABBING THIS JOINT. OKAY. JUST YES. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AREA DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, THAT'S THE CREEK AND TO THE WEST, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY USES AND THE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GUYS CAN GO EITHER WAY THAT YOU GUYS FEEL, UM, THAT IT'S NECESSARY. WELL, PEOPLE, YEAH. MM-HMM. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DRIVING BY THIS PLACE MM-HMM . FOR YEARS NOW. OKAY. AND IT'S, IT'S AN EYESORE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD SPEND ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE THE, THIS EXISTING BUILDING LOOK GOOD, TO BE JUST HONEST WITH YOU. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE USE AND THEM MEETING THE STANDARDS FOR THE UDC, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY STARTED A PROGRAM AS THE, UM, RETAIL REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE, SO THERE'S A PROGRAM TO, TO REHAB TO HELP COMPENSATE FOR THE REHAB OF FACADES. NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT ALL THAT ENTAILS IN REGARDS TO THIS IS A METAL EXTERIOR BUILDING WITH A GLASS FACADE. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE OUTSIDE OF PAINT. UM, THERE'S NOT A BRICK LEDGE, SO THERE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME OTHER STUFF DONE TO THIS BUILDING IN ORDER TO OUTSIDE OF DEMO IN MM-HMM . SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING KIND OF BEYOND THE REQUEST AT THIS POINT. IF THEY'RE GONNA MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE EDC, UM, YES, THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE. IF THEY CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S GONNA STOP THEM FROM GOING IN. MM-HMM . IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CONDITIONS Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR IMPOSE, THIS IS AN SUP, SO YOU CAN IMPOSE THOSE IF YOU WANNA RECOMMEND THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YES. CORPORATION AND LOOK INTO THIS PROGRAM. YOU CAN PUT THAT AS A CONDITION AS WELL. YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN EYESORE IN THE AREA AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY, I'M OKAY WITH PUTTING SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE THAT WAY I THINK THERE'S A DAYCARE, UH, NOT UP THE STREET, AND THEN THERE'S THE POST OFFICE AND THERE'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. SO THERE'S, THERE ARE THINGS IN THE AREA, AND I THINK IT WOULD ENHANCE THE AREA TO KIND OF BRING IT UP. SO I'M, I REALLY, AS LONG AS THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER, BUT IT IS AN EYESORE. I THINK IT WOULD, WE WOULD SERVE BETTER BY HAVING SOMETHING THERE. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. YES. OKAY. I, I AGREE AS WELL. AND I KNOW REGARDS TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION, IT SAYS THROUGH TO PATCH AND REPAIR. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PARKING LOT TO ME THERE. I MEAN, IS THERE GONNA BE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, LINES FOR PARKING? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, FREE BALL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA PARK KIND OF THING. YEAH. SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, UM, CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE FOR THEM TO DO BE BEFORE IT STARTS TRIGGERING WHOLE LOT OF SUBSTANTIAL REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT DURING A BUILDING PERMIT. LIKE I SAID, UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STEP FOR BE FOR THEM TO ABLE TO EVEN APPLY FOR BUILDING BUILDING PERMIT, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT THIS SUP BEING APPROVED. SO IT'S JUST INITIAL STAGE, I THINK THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS IF WE APPROVED THIS AS WE APPROVE THIS. YES, MA'AM. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I DON'T SEE THEM. DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS? MATT? NO. MADAM CHAIR, THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE. IS THERE A REASON THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE? NO, I, I, I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM THEM. WE DID SEND, WE TYPICALLY SEND THEM, HEY, THIS IS THE MEETING. THIS IS WHERE AMY, I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM THE APPLICANT. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE. I WOULD THINK THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED. UH, I HATE THAT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN EYES SORT AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN TO DEVELOP THIS, UH, FOR THE AREA, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. UH, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. COMMISSIONER, ANYMORE DISCUSSION ON THAT? I, I DO WANNA CLARIFY, IS THIS IN A FLOOD PLAIN? DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT? JUNE? WHAT? WHAT WAS THE SCOOP ON THAT? UM, YES. SO THIS ISN'T IN THE FLOOD PLAN AREA, BUT IT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION. SO UNLESS THEY, UH, MAKE SKIN MODIFICATION, THEY CAN REMAIN AS IS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT AS WELL. SO AT THIS POINT MM-HMM . IF WE WERE TO SAY NO AND [01:05:01] WANTED SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IN OUR MINDS WANTED SOMEBODY TO TEAR IT DOWN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SIGNIFICANT STUFF BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SOMETHING FEASIBLE. THAT IS CORRECT. BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLYING WITH ANY OF THE CURRENT STANDARDS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BECAUSE THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. IT'S PROBABLY WHY NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING TO IT IN, UH, PRIOR. PROBABLY IF THEY WANTED TO COMPLETELY REDEVELOP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT UP OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN. NOW CAN YOU SAY AGAIN WHAT YOU CALL THAT? THE RETRO, WHAT? THAT IS THE, LEMME PULL IT UP. RETAIL REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. NOW, IS THAT A PART OF, OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH, UH, FEDERAL, THROUGH THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON? THAT'S CERTAIN WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM. MM-HMM . IT'S JUST A PROGRAM THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS CREATED TO HELP BEAUTIFY SOME OF THESE OLDER STRIP CENTERS. MM-HMM . AND THIS IS CASE, THE SUBJECT CASE THAT POSSIBLY COULD USE IT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING THE FACADE AND THE AREA AND TO, UH, BRING IT UP. I THINK IT WOULD BE A, IN MY OPINION, A GOOD IDEA TO CONSIDER APPROVING THIS. UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE IT FOR ME. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE SUP 2 3 0 3 0 0 1 1 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR 40 49 ROBINSON ROAD, UM, AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIFICS, UH, OF WHAT THE, UH, STAFF IS REQUIRING. AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE, UH, REHABILITATION, WHAT IS THAT RETAIL REHABILITATION PROGRAM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY LOOK INTO THAT, UH, WILL HELP ENHANCE, UH, THEIR WORK. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, BUT THAT'S MY MOTION. RETAIL. CAN I GET A SECOND PROGRAM? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON ROBINSON ROAD BY MYSELF, COMMISSIONER CHERYL SMITH. AND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FRANK GONZALEZ. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR PER I'M PER, I'M SORRY. JULIA PEREZ. I'M SO SORRY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON FLOOR TO APPROVE PER CHERYL SMITH, UH, COMMISSIONER AND A SECOND BY JULIA PEREZ. I APOLOGIZE. COMMISSIONER PEREZ. MY MIND IS SOMEWHERE. ANYWAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND FOR ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FOR ONE. THANK YOU. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. YES, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ITEM [6 SUP-23-03-0007 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan – O'Reilly Auto Parts (City Council District 6). Specific Use Permit/Site Plan for an Auto Parts Sales (New) Facility on 1.29 acres. Lot 6, Block 1, Victory at Lakeridge Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-283, within the Lake Ridge Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 2380 W Camp Wisdom Road] NUMBER SIX IS SUP 2 3 0 3 0 0 0 7 SUP AND A SITE PLAN FOR A NEW O'REILLY'S AUTO PARTS STORE. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE VACANT LOT IS SHOWN WITH THE BOUNDARY RIGHT NOW, THE, TO THE EAST OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE STRIP CENTER WITH DIFFERENT TYPE OF RETAILS AND RESTAURANT TO THE, UH, DIRECTLY WEST IS THE, UM, GAS STATION WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE. THEY'RE WANTING TO PROPOSE A NEW AUTO PARTS STORE. THIS WILL BE, UH, CUSTOMERS FACING RETAIL SALES ONLY. THERE WILL BE NO SERVICING OF VEHICLES. UH, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BILLING ELEVATION, THERE'S NO OVERHEAD DOORS OR ANY BASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT, THEY ARE LOCATING THE BUILDING AS SHOWN. UM, THE LOCATION IS DUE TO THE EXISTING EXCESS DRIVE THAT IS OF IN THE FRONT PORTION OF THE LAW. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS AND THE PARKING STANDARDS. THEY ARE PROVIDING THE LAND. UM, LANDSCAPING IS REQUIRED. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PLAN SOME OF THE ORNAMENTAL TREES DUE TO THE OVERHEAD EASEMENT IN THAT AREA. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE APPENDIX F STANDARD. FOR THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT, THIS IS KIND OF A GENERALLY WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE. AS I HAVE MENTIONED, THIS IS GONNA BE A RETAIL STORE, SO YOU WON'T SEE, UM, ANY, UM, WORK BASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS KIND OF A BACK STORE. SO BECAUSE TO COMPLY WITH THE APPENDIX F STANDARD, THEY HAVE PROVIDED SOME OF THESE, UH, SPREADER GLASSES, SO THEY CAN STILL PUT THE MERCHANDISE IN FRONT OF IT. HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE REQUIRED GLAZING. SO THEY, THEY HAVE PROVIDED 13 MENU ITEMS FROM THE OUR APPENDIX F CHECKLIST. THEY ARE ASKING FOR TWO VARIANCES. ONE, THIS IS MORE OF JUST TO CLEAR THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING. TYPICALLY, WE ENCOURAGE THE BUILDING TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO AGREE MORE OF A WALKABLE EXPERIENCE ALONG THE STREET WITH THE STREET TREES AND SIDEWALK AND SO, SO ON AND SO FORTH. WITH THIS SITE, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING EASEMENT. HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE IN FRANCE. SO STAFF DOES NOT OPPOSE, HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST. AND THE ANOTHER ONE IS THAT THEY'RE, UH, ASKING TO REDUCE THE, UH, WINDOWS FROM 50% TO, UH, 45%. ACTUALLY, UM, THEY HAVE PROVIDED PRETTY GOOD, UH, AMOUNT OF WINDOWS. IS THAT WHEN YOU DID THE CALCULATION OVERALL, THEY JUST COULD NOT HIT THE 50% IS REQUIRED. STEP DOES NOT [01:10:01] HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS. WITH THAT, THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? MATT? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM AMBER BROYLES WHO'S HERE FOR, UH, ANDERSON ENGINEERING. UH, SHE INDICATED THAT SHE IS HERE, UH, FOR, UH, QUESTIONING IF, IF, IF NEEDED. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. AMBER BROYLES. 32 13 SOUTHWEST BYPASS, SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, WERE THERE ANY OTHER O'REILLY STORES IN THE NEIGHBOR IN, IN THE AREA? WHAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, UM, NOT, NOT NEAR THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO THEM. WHAT IS THE CLOSEST ONE TO THIS FACILITY? UM, I, UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE THAT. LET ME SEE. SHE THINKS IT'S ON CA IS A CARRIER. DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? UM, YEAH, THAT DOES SOUND RIGHT. , , I'M SO SORRY. FOUR OR FIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE. RIGHT. I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS THE ONE THAT WAS CLOSEST THERE, ANYWHERE, ANY CLOSE, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU WANT TO BRING THE BUSINESS, UH, TO GRAND PRAIRIE. HOW MANY STORES DO YOU HAVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE? EXACTLY. UM, TH THIS WILL BE THE FIFTH ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN WE GET A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SIX AND APPROVE WITH THE VARIANCES. UH, STAFF HAS, UH, POINTED OUT TO US. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE SUP 2 3 0 3 0 0 1 1 BY COMMISSIONER COLVIN IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT CASE PLEASE. GOOD [7 TAM-23-05-0005 - Text Amendment - Article 22: Fee Schedule. Advisory Committee: An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending Article 22: Fee Schedule of the Unified Development Code to Amend the definition of Advisory Committee; Repealing all Ordinances or parts of Ordinances in conflict herewith; Containing a savings clause and a severability clause; and to become effective upon its passage and approval] EVENING. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF ARTICLE 22 FEE SCHEDULE. UH, THE PURPOSE IS TO UPDATE OUR DEFINITION OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS IS FOR THE IMPACT FEE. SO THE PURPOSE, AGAIN, OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, ADDS TO THE DEFINITION. CURRENTLY, IT'S JUST DEFINED AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND ACTUALLY IT IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH TWO ADDITIONAL AD HOC MEMBERS. ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS IS A REAL ESTATE REPRESENTATIVE. ONE OF THOSE IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OF THE ETJ AREA. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THE DEFINITION IS WRITTEN ON THE RIGHT. AND AGAIN, UH, THIS IS TO, UH, REFLECT WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN, UM, IN THE, IN THE BRIEFING ON THIS ONE. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SAVANNAH. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? MM-HMM. CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THIS? MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ON, UM, TM DASH 23 DASH FIVE DASH 0 0 0 5, TEXT AMENDMENT ARTICLE 22 AND APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SIX BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ITEM PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. ANY MORE CASES? THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:26 PM THANK YOU. VERY COOL. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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