* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SHOW WHAT'S, OKAY, [00:00:01] WE'LL CALL THE ORDER FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA'S [CC Briefings 06202023] EPIC CENTRAL CONVENTION CENTER NAME. SO, SO AS A, UH, JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, I KNOW THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, WHAT YOU DO IS YOU HAVE A LITTLE FLYER AS A REMINDER FOR THURSDAY WE WILL BE DOING OUR, UM, UH, OUR NIGHTLY SHOW WILL BE BEGINNING WITH OUR, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR WATER SHOW REVEAL REALLY COOL STUFF. JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THE SHOW'S CALLED OLIVIA. AND WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL PREMIER FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, ON THURSDAY. SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR INVITE RIGHT THERE. SO DON, REMIND ME OF THAT. I SAW A FILM OF IT THE OTHER NIGHT. IT'S FANTASTIC. YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF GOOD REVIEWS, Y'ALL HIT IT, BUT KIND OF A SNEAK PREVIEW. SATURDAY NIGHT I THINK IS FANTASTIC. SO CONTINUE ON WITH EPIC CENTRAL CONVENTION CENTER NAMING. ALRIGHT, CHERYL? YES, SIR, NO QUESTION. YES, SIR. SO WE SAY NIGHTLY, SO NO MATTER THIS IS TEXAS RAIN IN THE MORNING OR THE WAY THE ONLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE WAY THE SHOW WORKS, WE PLAN, UNLESS THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT WEATHER, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN. OR IF THERE'S SOME ISSUE WITH THE PUMPS OR SOMETHING, WE PLAN ON DOING IT EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. WE, OUR HOURS WILL VARY IN THE FALL BECAUSE THE HOURS WILL CHANGE A BIT. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME SEASONALITY TO IT, BUT WE PLAN ON RUNNING AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. OKAY, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO IF YOU RECALL BACK IN JUNE, JUNE 6TH, WE HAD, UM, A TEAM HERE FROM CONCORD, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NAMING OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND AT THAT TIME WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, I HAVE THE PRESENTATION AVAILABLE AND READY FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THAT. I DIDN'T INTEND TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO DO IS, I THINK YOU'VE HAD, WE'VE ALSO SENT THE PRESENTATION TO YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR REVIEW. WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS TO HAVE YOU GUYS, UM, AGAIN, AND ALSO AT YOUR CHAIRS RIGHT THERE, I GAVE YOU THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE. SO, UM, I WANTED YOU TO JUST KIND OF HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AS TO WHICH OF THE THREE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. BUT I AM GONNA GO BRIEFLY OVER WHAT EACH OF THEM ARE. THE GATHERING IS THE NUMBER ONE RECOMMENDATION BY OUR CONCORD FOLKS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY USE THIS, THIS IS A SALES TOOL FOR THEM. THEY TAKE THIS NAME AND THEN THEY HELP SELL THE SPACE. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT MAXIMUM REVENUE GENERATION. WE'RE SELLING AN EXPERIENCE. SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY, WE, WE WORKED WITH OUR MARKETING FIRM AND WE'VE COME UP WITH THREE NAMES THAT WE THINK DO THAT BEST. THEIR PREFERENCE WAS THE GATHERING. THE SECOND NAME THAT THEY HAD WAS EPICA. IT'S CALLED EPIC. THAT WAS JUST, EPICA IS JUST A MADE UP NAME. AND THE THIRD ONE THAT THEY HAD WAS SKYBOUND. SO FROM THERE, WE JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT. STEVE, DID YOU HAVE SAY IF, IF WE CAN GET SOME CONSENSUS IN HERE, YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT. AT THE DAAS, WE, WE DO NEED A DECISION BECAUSE THEY NEED TO START MARKETING, UH, UNDER THE, THE CHOSEN NAME. YOU CAN GO WITH ONE OF THREE, THESE THREE NAMES. THIS IS WHAT OUR EXPERTS ARE GIVING US. YOU CAN GO WITH ANY NAME THAT, THAT FIVE OR MORE OF YOU WANT TO GO WITH, BUT WE DO, UH, ASK THAT YOU TRY TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. SO WE'VE GOT THE CONCORD. YEAH. Y'ALL STAND UP. SO WE REMEMBER. YEAH, Y'ALL WERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE DECIDED THE TABLE. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK. WE'RE JUST REGULARS NOW. . YEAH. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME GOOD COMMENTS WHEN WE DID BRIEF IT. UH, THE, UH, SOME OF 'EM WERE GATHERING MAY FEEL A BIT TOO REVIVAL, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S KIND OF CUTE. AND THEN JOHN SAID SOMETHING KIND OF STUCK WITH ME. AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING JOHN PREFERRED THIS ONE, BUT JOHN SAID SOMETHING AT THAT MEETING THAT EPIC DOES HAVE THE WORD EPIC IN IT. SO THAT MAY, UH, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE ONE YOU CHOSE, BUT I DID LIKE THAT COMMENT. UM, SKYBOUND SOUNDS LIKE, UH, JAMES BOND. SO, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE? I THINK THIS GROUP CAN TAKE ANY ONE OF THOSE AND, AND MARKET MARKETED. SO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM OUR DIRECTION. UH, SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ALL 'EM. I, I'VE GOT NO, I'M NOT, I'VE GOT NO BIG DEAL ON ANY OF 'EM. ALTHOUGH I KIND OF LIKE WHAT JOHN SAID ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER DEL BOSKY. DO WE HAVE TO USE THESE THREE? NO, WE DO NOT. OKAY. THE ONLY REASON MADE IT IS I DID A LITTLE DUE DILIGENCE DISCOVERY ON EVERYONE AROUND US. ARLINGTON IRVING, DALLAS, FORT WORTH, AND IT'S ALL IRVING CONVENTION CENTER, ARLINGTON EMERGENCY CENTER. SO CAN WE JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, NAME IT. GRAND PRAIRIE, EPIC CONVENTION CENTER. WE COULD, I MEAN, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS WE COULD YES. ONE OF THE DATES DO WE WANT TO, BUT THE ANSWER IS ANOTHER STORY. BUT THE ANSWER IS WE COULD, YES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE GONNA DO IS CALL WHATEVER [00:05:01] NAME WE DID CHOOSE. IF WE DO CHOOSE A NAME, WE COULD CALL IT SOMETHING CONVENTION CENTRAL. SO THE WORD CONVENTION, THE VERY CONVENTION IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE IT. YEAH. SO, YES. SO I LIKE HIS RECOMMENDATION. UH, THEN THE THREE HERE. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR HADN, YOU HAD YOUR, UM, JUST RECAPPING MY THOUGHTS FROM THE LAST MEETING. THE GATHERING I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE SOCIAL FOR ANY KIND EVENT. YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE LEGAL CONFERENCE COMING AND THE GATHERING MAY NOT BE WHAT THEY THINK OF. UM, SO WE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN. SO EPICA OF THESE THREE I THINK IS BEST. BUT, UM, THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT WITH THESE AND A FOURTH THAT SOMEONE HAD SENT TO US. THE EPICENTER, WHICH I DON'T SEE, I CAN'T USE THAT ONE. WAS THAT ALREADY USED? BECAUSE THE DEFINITION EPICENTER IS THE CENTER OF THE EARTHQUAKE. SO THE DEFINITIONS, WE COULD, WE JUST SHOULDN'T CHANGE. WE COULD NAME IT THAT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS THE EARTHQUAKE, BUT LET HER FINISH. BUT OUT OF WHAT IS PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED. I'M LEANING AWAY FROM GATHERING AT THIS POINT. SO MAYBE EPICA, I DON'T WANT TO GO OVERLY GENERIC. UM, GRAND PRAIRIE, EPIC CONVENTION CENTER DOES STILL HAVE A WORD IN THERE THAT'S NOT JUST CITY PLUS CONVENTION CENTER. SO I GET THAT IT IS LESS GENERIC, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK BRANDING WISE, WE NEED TO THINK OF SOMETHING SPECIAL. BUT I DO THINK THE GATHERING MAYBE ISN'T IT AT THIS POINT, BUT IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. THAT'S OF COMMENTS. MAYOR STEVE, DOES STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? WELL, WE DEFER TO OUR EXPERTS. SO THESE ARE THE TOP FOOD THAT THEY CAME UP WITH. AND THEN THAT'S WHY THE, WE, WE DID REMEMBER WE DID THE INTERNAL VOTE AND WE REALLY COULDN'T GET A CONSENSUS ON THAT. SO WE THREW IT BACK TO THEM. WHAT WOULD YOUR TOP THREE BE? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY CAME BACK TO THIS. YEAH. AND THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS AND, BUT GOOD QUESTION COLE COUNCILOR. YEAH, I PREFER THAT. YEAH. YEAH, I WOULD TOO. GEORGIA. I DO TOO. IN FACT, I THINK WE COULD SKYBOUND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE COULD MARK THAT OFF. TOTALLY. THAT'S MY OPINION. AND UH, EPICA, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, I'M GETTING MARRIED, I'M HAVING MY RECEPTION AT THE HOTEL AT THE EPIC CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER. THEY PROBABLY MIGHT NOT EVEN CALL IT EPICA. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EPICA AND WHAT, WHAT WILL FOLLOW THAT? IT'S EPICA AND THEN IT WOULD BE CONVENTION CENTRAL. CONVENTION CENTRAL. DO THAT ONE JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE EPIC CENTRAL THEME. MM-HMM . WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT THE, UH, I, I'D BE OKAY WITH EPICA. WE NEED SUBMIT THE WORK TO WEB SEARCH. SO WE ADD IT , , YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WITH THE ACCENT MARK. YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, SOME PRELIMINARY, UM, WORK, WORK DONE TO MAKE SURE FROM A COPYRIGHT STANDPOINT AND ALL THIS, THIS, THIS ACTUALLY EPICA IS ACTUALLY THE BEST ONE. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY A WORD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS THE PROBABLY SAFEST OF THE THREE CHOICES. BUT DON'T WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH OUR BRANDING OF CONSISTENCY OF BRANDING. GRAND PRAIRIE TODAY AT CDC, WE WENT OVER OUR, YOU KNOW HOW OUR WATER TOWER'S GONNA LOOK, MATT GRAND PRAIRIE WRITTEN ALL OVER. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK AS A MARKETING STANDPOINT, I THINK GOOD POINT, MIKE. I MEAN, UM, I THINK WE DO BRAND IT. UH, CAN I THE EXPERTS? YEAH, YOU'LL JUST CAN CAN, LET ME ASK YOU ALL, IS GRAND PRAIRIE EPICA A POSSIBILITY? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE KNOW IT'S A POSSIBILITY UP THERE, BUT FROM, FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT, BUT WHY THIS INSTEAD OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER DEBOSKY GIVE US THE KIND OF THE PROS AND CONS OF THOSE. UM, I SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. I, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO SELL EPIC CENTRAL IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S WHY EPICA WITH THE CENTRAL INSTEAD OF CENTER CAME INTO PLAY. OKAY. WE DO WANNA LEAVE CONVENTION IN THERE. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLANNING THEIR CONVENTIONS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE GOOGLING, RIGHT? SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT WORD STAYS IN THERE. UM, THIS IS MY PICK IF I CAN SAY THAT. . YEAH. YES. GEORGIA. WHAT IF YOU SAID EPICA GRAND PRAIRIE CONVENTION CENTRAL? SURE. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU, FOR ME IT'S JUST KEEPING THE CONSISTENCY OF BRANDING. SO WHETHER YOU WANNA PUT EPICA OR EPIC OR WHATEVER YOU CAN PUT, IF WE GO WITH ONE OF THEIR TOP PICKS AND INCLUDED WITH WHAT WE WANT TO SAY, REPEAT THAT AGAIN FOR THEM. GEORGIA EPICA, GRAND PRAIRIE CONVENTION CENTRAL. WOULD THAT FLOW OKAY FOR Y'ALL? I THINK IT DOES GREAT. ACTUALLY, THIS IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITES WE THINK IT WOULD BE. BUT WITH THAT TERM THAT WE JUST GAVE YOU [00:10:01] FLOW. OKAY. YEAH. SO EPICA, GRAND PRAIRIE CONVENTION CENTRAL, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS. OR GRAND PRAIRIE. HOW WOULD YOU SHORTEN IT? I MEAN, YOU WANNA GET EPICA OUT THERE FRONT, BUT YOU OUGHT TO ALSO TO TO COUNCIL MEMBER VOS. 'CAUSE YOU WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THE BRAND. IT'S AT GRAND CENTRAL. IT'S AT EPIC CENTRAL. WELL, WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE PUT GRAND PRAIRIE UNDERNEATH HER EPICA CONVENTION CENTER, GRAND PRAIRIE SO PEOPLE KNOW IT'S GRAND PRAIRIE UNDERNEATH GRAND PRAIRIE. GRAND PRAIRIE. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING IS PEOPLE JUST SAY, YEP, WHERE'S EPICA? WHERE'S THAT? YEAH. AND WE WANT THEM. THEY'RE A LOT BIGGER THAN WE ARE. AND IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. AND, AND IN Y'ALL'S WORLD, A LOT OF THINGS IS WE WANT TO KISS IT, WE WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. WE DO, WE WANT IT, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE HOTELS TOO. WE JUST GOT THAT NAME CHANGED TOO. AND IT'S THE SAME GRAND PRAIRIE SLASH EPIC CENTRAL. YEAH. SO CONVENTION CENTER, IF I'M GOING TO URBAN CONVENTION CENTER, WHAT DO THEY SAY? I'M GOING TO DALLAS CONVENTION CENTER. WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY WHEN THEY GO TO GRAND PRAIRIE CONVENTION CENTER? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR, HEY, I GOTTA GO TO CONVENTION CENTER? I THINK THEY'LL GOOGLE IT BOTH WAYS. BUT, BUT THE FIRST THING IN CONVERSATION WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, I WANT, I'M COMING TO DALLAS, I'M GOING TO A CONVENTION IN GRAND PRAIRIE. MM-HMM . HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA PUT THAT EPICA IN THERE? OR ANY OTHER NAME OTHER THAN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SAY? I TRAVEL NATIONWIDE. IF I'M GOING PLACES, I'M GOING TO, UH, THE WASHINGTON DC CONVENTION CENTER. IT HAS A NAME, BUT I KNOW I'M GOING TO THAT CONVENTION CENTER. YOU'RE RIGHT. SAYING, BECAUSE THE ONE IN DALLAS ISN'T EVEN NAMED THE DALLAS CONVENTION CENTER NAMED AFTER BAILEY. KAY. BAILEY HUTCHINS. SO YOU, THE NAMING, THEY'LL JUST USE ON ANY OF THOSE AS A WAY TO KIND OF TARGET FLU, SEE IT UP FOR THEIR ADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IT IS STILL, I LIKE THAT WITH ADDING THAT TAG LAG UNDER IT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. SOME FLAVOR. CAN YOU ALL, CAN YOU ALL WORK, WORK WITH THAT AND THEN EMAIL US AND THEN I'LL EMAIL IT OUT TO COUNCIL TO WORK IN GRAND PRAIRIE IN THAT. SURE. AND AND THEN I CAN SHOW THAT TO THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. AND, AND THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAYING GAME. WE GOING EPICA, THAT'S THE WORKING WRONG WAY. EPICA WITH THE, THE LINE TAGS IN IT TO KIND GET GRAND PRI. MAY I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YES. QUESTION. I THINK WE'VE SPENT NINE FIGURES ON EPIC. IS THAT ACCURATE? MM-HMM. I MEAN, WE'RE THERE MORE PROBABLY RIGHT. EPIC BRANDING. WE'RE WE'RE IN AT EPIC. WHAT? WHY ARE WE ADDING AN A TO THE EPIC AND THE EPIC CONVENTION? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT'S. A LOT. I MEAN, WELL, YOU ALSO HAVE RECREATION CENTER, WHICH IS CALLED THE EPIC. JUST MIGHT CAUSE A LITTLE CONFUSION BECAUSE THERE'S EPIC WATERS, WHICH IS THE EPIC. WELL THAT'S TRUE. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY TELLS ME THEY'RE GOING TO THE EPIC, BUT THEY MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO EPIC WATERS. BUT THEY KNOW IT IS IN THAT AREA. YEAH. SAYING EPIC. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT I THE TAGLINE PEOPLE HAVE. I HAVE SEEN SOME CONFUSION WITH THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE EVERYTHING EPIC, ALL THE BUILDINGS, THEY DON'T KNOW. WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER, UH, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY SELLING CONVENTION CENTER, BUT WE'RE SELLING EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCES COME TO EPIC CENTRAL. YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COMPROMISE. Y'ALL HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. COLE, MIKE, I THINK Y'ALL EVERYBODY. BUT WE WANT THAT LINE IN THERE. AND GRAND PRAIRIE, WE WILL SEARCH AND I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IT'S OUR CONVENTION CENTER. YEAH, THANK Y'ALL. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT THEN. OKAY. OKAY. I I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YES. SO PEOPLE GO TO THE WEBSITE. WHAT NOW THAT WE'RE ADDING IN THESE OTHER WORDS, WHAT WOULD THE WEBSITE BE? YES. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S WEBSITE BUILDING. PEOPLE THAT WOULD PROBABLY WHATEVER IS EASIEST. Y'ALL FIGURE THAT OUT FIRST. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY PRIOR IT WAS ATCU CONVENTION CENTRAL. BUT DON'T PUT IT WHERE WHATEVER SEARCH TERMS IT, PULL IT UP. JUNIOR. YEAH. I SUGGEST JUST KEEP IT HOW YOU WANT IT WHEN YOU GET ON THE WEBSITE. GRAND. YEAH, THAT'S, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE GRAND. YOU GO ON WEBSITE AND SAY GRAND. THAT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE THAT WE KNOW IT. YEAH. COMING IN FROM, WELL, LOOK AT THIS, THE WATER SHOW. PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO KNOW EUV. RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GOOGLE WATER SHOW, WATER SHOW, SHOW. AND THEN, THEN THEY'LL LEARN. IT'S NO DIFFERENCE. I WANT GO TO THE WATER SHOW AT LAS LAS VEGAS. I JUST SAY BELLAGIO WATER SHOW, YOU KNOW, , I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS A NAME OR NOT. WHENEVER YOU GOOGLE IT, IT'LL SHOW WHERE YOU'RE RIGHT. SO THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THAN THE TEXAS TRUST. THE ARTIST ALWAYS SAY, WELCOME TO WHERE DALLAS. AND WE WANNA BRING GRAND PRAIRIE. RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANNA SAY WE GET A FEW. SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY, I THINK EVEN SAID DALLAS SO MANY TIMES, BUT THEN THE NEXT GROUP I HEARD THEY WERE DOING GRAND PRAIRIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND WE WERE ALL CHEERING. THEY'RE LEARNING. WE MENTIONED THAT, DIDN'T WE, STEVE? WITH THE AD HOC FOR AGING. YEP. YEAH, THEY MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT. [00:15:01] YEAH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN TRY TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT. THEY GO RIP HIM OFF THE STAGE. WELL, THEY DO, AS JOHN SAYS, AT T STADIUM SAYS DALLAS. HEY, ARLINGTON DOESN'T CARE IF THEY SEE DALLAS OR NOT. THEY'RE COMING AND SPENDING THE NIGHT ON. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY FOR THE MEETING. THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOME DIRECTION. NEXT. THANK YOU, CHERYL. HONOR YOU LADIES. THERE ARE NO JAMES BOND DECISION POINTS IN MY PRESENTATION. LEMME TELL YOU THAT RIGHT UP TOP. I LIKE JAMES BOND. WELL, I'M SORRY TO LET YOU DOWN, YOUR HONOR. AND WE, AND NO ONE SAID WE DIDN'T JUST, WE DIDN'T WANT OUR WATER SHOW JAMES BOND. I MEAN OUR R THE CONVENTION CENTER. OKAY. UM, EVERY YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME, UH, EVERY YEAR, 4TH OF JULY, AND, UM, NEW YEAR'S EVE IS A CHALLENGE FOR, UH, YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT, UM, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, THE NOISE, AND, AND PARTICULARLY THE, OUR PET LOVERS AND THOSE IN THE MILITARY THAT SUFFER FROM PTSD AND AND SO FORTH. SO EVERY YEAR WE TRY TO GET CREATIVE, UH, STRATEGIES HELP MITIGATE THAT. THIS IS THIS YEAR'S ATTEMPT AT THAT. WE'RE ROLLING BACK IN SOME STUFF THAT WORKED VERY WELL, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON. AND WE GOT SOME NEW STUFF AS WELL. SO, UH, JUST THE PRESENTATION QUICKLY AT A GLANCE IS OUR, OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, OUR STAFFING PLAN. I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HIGH LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO DIFFERENTLY WITH ENFORCEMENT. AND THEN, UH, OUR FRIENDS AT THE LIBRARY ARE GONNA HELP US AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH THE QUIET ZONE. SO THIS YEAR, UH, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE HAVE, UH, PRODUCED A VIDEO THAT'S DESIGNED TO SORT OF REDEFINE HOW, HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT 4TH OF JULY. I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT FLIPPING BURGERS AND INDEPENDENCE, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT I THINK WHAT'S OFTEN LOST IS ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT COME, UH, AS A CONSEQUENCE OF 4TH OF JULY AS WELL. SO WE'RE GONNA BE BLASTING THIS ACROSS ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND, UM, OUR FRIENDS AT CHANNEL 11 MAY BE HELPING US WITH THIS AS WELL. OKAY. SORRY TO BE DEBBIE DOWNER. BUT, UH, THE GOAL HERE AGAIN, IS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BEFORE THEY IGNITE, UH, THE FIREWORKS. WE ARE NOT, UH, TARGETING KIDS WITH, UH, SPARKLERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE SENDING THESE BIG MORTARS IN THE AIR, WHICH EVERY YEAR SEEM TO HAVE MORE AND MORE GUNPOWDER AND CREATE MORE AND MORE ISSUES FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PUSHING THAT OUT ON ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, INCLUDING THE, UH, VIRUS, SOCIAL MEDIA AND CITIES NEXTDOOR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, UH, UH, OTHER THAN THE VIDEO, THAT CLEAR CHANNEL IS ALREADY, UH, BROADCASTING. IF YOU LIE, YOU CITED TYPE, UM, MESSAGING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WERE VERY KIND ENOUGH TO, UH, PARTNER WITH US ON. OUR CITY'S ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS OR ELECTRONIC SIGNS ARE ALREADY OUT. UH, AND WE ARE GONNA BE PUTTING OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE AND OUR HOTSPOT AREAS. SO THERE'S SOME OF THE AREAS IN THE CITY. UH, WE'RE GONNA DO BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. AND SOME OF THE AREAS, UH, WHERE WE TRADITIONALLY HAVE HIGH CALLS VOLUME, WE'RE GONNA BE PUSHING OUT THE SIGNAGE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS GONNA SAY, IF YOU LIED INSIDE IT, WE HAVE OUR CRIME PREVENTION TEAM IS ALREADY GONNA BE OUT KNOCKING ON DOORS. THESE ARE, WE'VE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT CALLS FOR SERVICE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FIREWORKS. WE'RE GOING TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN ADVANCE, KNOCKING ON DOORS, LETTING 'EM KNOW, LISTEN, WE'RE GONNA BE OUT HERE STRICTLY ENFORCING IF YOU, IF YOU LIKE THE FIREWORKS, YOU MIGHT, UH, BE SUBJECT TO A FINE. AND I ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE, SO THIS WILL BE AN ALL HANDS APPROACH FOR US. JUST TO KIND OF REMIND EVERYBODY. THE 4TH OF JULY IS A VERY LABOR INTENSIVE CHALLENGE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE THE LAKE THAT IS GONNA SPAN ACROSS SEVERAL DAYS. THAT'S ABOUT 75 COPS ALL BY ITSELF. WE HAVE THE, UH, STARS AND STRIPES PRESENTATION OUT AT LONE STAR PARK. THAT'S VERY MANPOWER INTENSIVE. OUR, UH, WARD COMMUNITY HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE, HASN'T BEEN IN RECENT YEARS, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE WERE GETTING SHOT AT WITH FIREWORKS. SO WE HAVE A PRESENCE OUT THERE. UM, SOMETHING RELATIVELY NEW THAT WE HAVE TO TEND TO IS THE INTERSECTION TAKEOVERS, THAT'S SOME [00:20:01] OF OUR INTELLIGENCE TEAM IS TELLING US. THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG THING THIS 4TH OF JULY. AS A REMINDER, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET LARGE GROUPS OF CARS THAT WILL COME BLOCK THE INTERSECTION AND DO DONUTS IN THE CENTER. SO, UM, FORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THAT HAPPENING IN GRAND PRIX. WE ARE VERY TOUGH ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT IT IS A ISSUE FOR US IN TERMS OF OUR MANPOWER HAVING TO PEEL OFF AND, AND GETTING THOSE GROUPS OUT OF THE CITY. AND THEN THIS YEAR, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A PEEK BEHIND THE CURTAIN, WHEN A CITIZEN CALLS IN ABOUT FIREWORKS, UH, VERY OFTEN THEY'RE HEARING WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE A GUNSHOT. BUT IT'S REALLY A FIREWORK. BUT THE CHALLENGE THAT CREATES FOR US IS, IS A GUN GUNFIRE IS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN A FIREWORK CALL. SO CONSEQUENTLY, IF YOU'RE A CITIZEN AND YOU, YOU CORRECTLY IDENTIFY A FIREWORK PROBLEM, THAT CALL IS GONNA BE LOWER THAN ALL THE, THE GUNSHOT CALLS THAT WE GET, WHICH IS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS. SO THAT CITIZEN MAY NOT GET AN OFFICER FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THEIR PERCEPTION IS, IS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING. AND I THINK THAT'S A SOURCE OF SOME OF YOUR CALLS. SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UH, I'M SORRY, LET ME BACK UP A STEP. THEN. WHEN THE OFFICER DOES COME, THERE'S THIS BLACK AND WHITE TAHOE AND THEY SEE THE HEADLIGHTS AND SUDDENLY EVERYBODY'S SINGING IN THE CHURCH CHOIR AND NOBODY KNOWS WHO FIREWORKS AS ARE. AND, AND, UH, WE ARE JUST STUCK CONFISCATING THE FIREWORKS. AND THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NOBODY TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP. SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME UNMARKED CARS ON THE STREET. QUITE A FEW IN FACT, AND THEIR JOBS ARE GONNA BE SOLELY DOING FIREWORK ENFORCEMENT. SO WE WILL STILL BE ANSWERING GUNFIRE CALLS, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY THIS APPROACH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THAT'S GONNA BE STRICTLY LOOKING AT FIREWORKS IN HOPES THAT WE CAN TRY TO CATCH SOME OF THESE FOLKS AND, AND TAKE A, A STRICTER, UH, APPROACH. OUR, UH, BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE GONNA BE A RIDE OUT WITH US AS WELL DOING, UH, ENFORCEMENT. AND, UH, ROBERT'S TEAM IS ALSO PREPARED FOR, UH, POTENTIAL FIRES. HE CAN UNPACK THAT IF HE WANTS. THEY'RE ALWAYS PREPARED, BUT THEY'RE HAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA READINESS AS IT RELATES TO POTENTIAL FIRES. AGAIN, THAT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US, BUT JUST IN CASE, UH, THIS IS A, A BRING BACK FROM LAST YEAR, WE HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE QUIET ZONE. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I THINK WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO EVER DO THIS. UH, SO, UH, THIS YEAR I ASKED, UH, PETER'S TEAM WHO, I THINK HE'S HERE SOMEWHERE. I SAW HIM. THERE HE IS. I ASKED HIM, I KNOW THERE'S, THIS IS A BIG ASK ALL THESE DAYS, AND I ASKED HIM IF HE COULD GET A FEW OF 'EM FOR US. AND OF COURSE HE CALLS BACK AND SAYS, NO, WE'RE GONNA GET EVERY ONE OF THOSE DAYS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HIS TEAM STEPPING UP AND HELPING US WITH THAT. WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT SUCCESS. I DON'T EXPECT THIS, UH, SUNDAY TO BE QUITE A, AN ISSUE, JUST KIND OF THE WAY THE HOLIDAY FALLS ON THE COUNTER. BUT, UH, TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE PREPARED JUST IN CASE AND HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT, UH, WANT TO USE THE QUIET ZONE. AND THEN OF COURSE OUR OFFICERS WILL BE, UH, IN THAT AREA PRETTY CLOSE TO TAKE, UH, AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT AROUND THE QUIET ZONE. OKAY. ALL THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO SET EXPECTATIONS. IF EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE CITY AT THE SAME TIME DECIDES TO TAKE IT UP TO A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE HIGHWAY, I'M ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THEM. I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY THAT'S DOING FIREWORKS. WE JUST CAN'T. WE'RE GONNA TRY. WE HAVE THROWN THE KITCHEN SINK AT THE ISSUE. AND IT'S AN ALL HANDS APPROACH. I HAVE EVERYBODY IN MY DEPARTMENT THAT WEARS A STAR IS GONNA BE WORKING OVER THIS HOLIDAY SEASON TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. UH, BUT WITH THIS LEVEL OF, UH, SATURATION AS WELL AS OUR OTHER MANPOWER INTENSIVE ISSUES, I'M CONVINCED THAT THERE IS GONNA BE FIREWORKS GOING OFF IN OUR CITY. THERE JUST WILL BE. THERE WILL BE. AND WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. LOOK, I, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. UH, SO MANY TIMES WE'VE TOLD PEOPLE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN. WELL, WE'RE TRYING HARDER. THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING UP WITH SOMETHING TO TRY HARDER. AND I KNOW THERE'LL STILL BE FIREWORKS, BUT THIS SHOULD HELP FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, I'M HOPING IT DOES. 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE WILL GET TICKETED AND WORD WILL SPREAD. UM, WE ALL LOVE TRINA. THAT COMES EVERY YEAR AFTER JULY 4TH. AND IT, AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT SHE RAISES TWO GRANDCHILDREN THAT THIS SEVERELY IMPACTS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE OPEN THE QUIET ZONE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT OR NOT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS. AND THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE HER OUT THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT FOR SURE. CHIEF, YES SIR, HER, HER NEIGHBORHOOD IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR HOT POINT AREAS, HOTSPOT AREAS, OFFICERS IN THAT AREA. SHE ACTUALLY MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHE'S IN NOW. DIDN'T TELL US. SO THAT CREATES A CHALLENGE [00:25:01] FOR US LAST YEAR. BUT YES SIR. UM, QUESTION CHIEF, UM, ON THE VIDEO OR SENDING THE MESSAGING ON FACEBOOK, WOULD IT BE ALSO IN SPANISH AS WELL? JUST SO WE PUSH THAT OUT? YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN AS IT RELATES TO ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE YES. ON THE VIDEO. THAT'S AN EASY FIX AND I JUST TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I DIDN'T THINK OF IT. SO WE'LL GET IT DONE. OKAY. AND THEN JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE BEYOND NORTH STAR PARK, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER APPROVED FIREWORKS BOTH IN OUR CITY? NO. IS THAT SOMETIMES YOU GO OUT THERE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD. I MEAN THERE'S SOME SOUND LIKE IT JOHN, BUT BOY, NONE OF THEM APPROVED. YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS LIKE THAT EVERYBODY ASKS ME, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL THAT'S PROBABLY APPROVED BY THE CITY. AND I'M LIKE, NO MAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE, BUT OKAY. JUST NO SIR. NO. AND I KNOW THE ONE OUT OF NORTH STAR PARK IS, IS BEAUTIFUL AND THAT'D BE THE ONE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY GO TO. YEAH. AND THEN LAST THING, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, OF COURSE THEY WOULD CALL 9 1 1, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE TEXT. THEY COULD SEND THE TEXT AND, AND AND DO IT THAT WAY AS WELL. A HUNDRED PERCENT, YES, SIR. GOOD. YEAH. AND, AND GOOD THE COUNCILMAN IS REFERRING TO IS CITIZENS CAN TEXT 9 1 1 OR THEIR COMPLAINT AND UH, AND THAT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED THAT THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW. COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER . YES, SIR. ON YOUR PRE PREVENTION WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO THE TR UH, TROUBLE NEIGHBORHOODS, IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE AN ADDRESS OF SOMEONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS A, MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A FLYER OR SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT ON THEIR DOOR THAT AND JUST SAY GEORGE WILL BE WATCHING? RIGHT. , I JUST WONDERED IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO. WE'RE TRYING TO DO AN ACTUAL FACE TO FACE. KURT WILL BE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE IMPACT WHEN A UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCING THE FIREWORK BOARDS HAND, HAND NUDGE, NUDGE. AND WE FOUND SOME SUCCESS WITH THAT IN THE PAST. UM, SO WE AREN'T LEAVING A FLYER NOW. WE HAVE, AND ONE THING I NEGLECTED TO MENTION, WE DO HAVE EVERY CITIZEN, UH, IS GETTING THIS IN THE PIPELINE AS WELL. SO, UM, MA'AM, TO BE HONEST, YEAH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, TO KEEP EVERYBODY FROM SPEED AT THE SAME TIME. BUT, BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE SPECIFIC ADDRESSES, EMAIL 'EM TO THE CHIEF SO THEY CAN GET THAT PERSONAL VISIT. HUNDRED PERCENT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING AS WELL. AND IF, UH, ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE HAVING A BIG FIREWORKS DISPLAY, MAYBE WE CAN REDIRECT THEM TO GO THERE IF THEY CAN'T GO TO THE LONG STAR PARK. YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU ALL THE OTHER CHIEFS ARE HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION. THERE'S RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A CITY IN TEXAS YEAH. THAT'S INCORPORATED OR UNINCORPORATED DOESN'T HAVE. NO, BUT I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE A FIREWORKS DISPLAY THAT RIGHT. PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO VISIT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. UH, DO YOU KNOW LAST YEAR HOW MANY CALLS FIREWORKS? YES, SIR. ON THE 4TH OF JULY. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER MEMORIZED, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WERE SWAMPED TWO OR ONE. SO MORE THAN THEY CAN HANDLE. YEAH, IT, IT, I CAN GET YOU GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT EXACT NUMBER. YEAH. AND I THINK, I THINK ABOUT THE RESOURCES WE'RE THROWING AT IT AND THE NO IMPACT, LITTLE OR NO IMPACT IT MAY MAKE, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAID, EVERYBODY, THEY KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S ILLEGAL. YEAH. WELL WE, OUR OFFICERS AREN'T GONNA COMPLAIN, BUT NOW WE'RE PULLING 'EM FROM THEIR FAMILY CELEBRATIONS THAT SERVE OVERTIME BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S GONNA BE POPPING FIREWORKS. I JUST WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT AS WELL. I I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO BE MINDFUL. I WILL ADMIT THAT I INCREASED STAFFING THIS YEAR, UM, TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO, TO RECTIFY THIS ISSUE. BUT YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN. IT'S DEFINITELY A BALANCE BETWEEN, UH, WORK LIFE. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ZA, YOU, YOU WERE NEXT. MY QUESTION WAS REGARDING, UM, THE QUIET ROOMS. Y'ALL HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT YOU CAN POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND IF SO YOU SHARE WITH US, YOU TO SHARE AS WELL? I CAN DO THAT. YES SIR. WE DO. AND PETER WILL GET IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU GUYS ARE A CITATION. HOW? I'M SORRY, SIR. CITATION. YEAH. HOW MUCH? UH, 580 ISH. 50. IT'S NOT 50, NO. FIVE 80. NO. IN FACT, WE STUDIED THAT, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE. I'LL GET YOU STUFF. UM, AND OUR, UH, SITE, UH, FINE AMOUNT WAS, UM, SLIGHTLY IN LINE. IT'S MAYBE A, A HIGHER THAN OUR, OUR COMPARISON CITIES. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU CHIEF. YOU BET, INVISIO. SO, WHILE MADISON IS GETTING HIS PRESENTATION PREPARED, WHAT I WANT TO DO IN THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 MINUTES IS INTRODUCE A CONCEPT TO YOU ALL. WE HAVE NOT EMPLOYED INVISIO, WE HAVEN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH HIM. THERE'S A FEW COMPANIES THAT DO THIS. I WAS DRAWN TO [00:30:01] INVISIO, URBAN USES INVISIO, AND I LIKE THEIR PRODUCT. SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES, I THINK WE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MATCHES OUR RESPONSIVENESS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AS A CITY. WHERE I DO THINK WE CAN IMPROVE IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE DISCUSSING IN AUGUST FOR THE FIRST TIME, HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME OUT WITH STRATEGIC, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES THAT COUNCIL HAS NEVER HAD. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE KIND OF FINAL STEP WE CAN TAKE. AND ALONG WITH THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, UH, THERE'S DASHBOARDS THAT CAN BOTH BE INTERNALLY FACING FOR STAFF AND COUNCIL AND EXTERNALLY FACING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN SHOW PROGRESS ON ROAD PROJECTS. IF YOU ALL EVER CHOSE TO DO A CITIZEN OR BUSINESS SURVEY, YOU CAN SHOW THOSE RESULTS. THERE'S A LOT OF CAPABILITIES THAT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT CAN OFFER YOU. SO THE REASON I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE CONCEPT TONIGHT, I DON'T NEED ANY DECISIONS. I, I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES IN AUGUST, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PAIRING TO OBJECTIFY SOME OF THOSE AND, AND SHOW OUR CITIZENS HOW OUR, OUR PROGRESS AS A CITY BASED ON COUNCIL POLICIES BEING TRACKED, UH, THROUGH THIS, THIS PRODUCT. SO, UH, THIS IS MADISON WITH INVISIO, UH, AGAIN, AND ALSO IT'S AMY IN HER LAST COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS, YES IT IS. AND I HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US FRIDAY FOR HER RETIREMENT. OH, YOU'RE ASKING AMY IF SHE CAN? NO. OH, OH, , UH, MADISON, UH, ALL YOUR, SORRY. I HOPE YOU CAN'T TOO, AMY, GO AHEAD MADISON. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU STEVE. AND, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SEEING OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR HAVING AND VISIO AND HOSTING US AND US. THE MICROPHONE. WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU. OH YEAH, IT'S THERE. HOW'S THAT? NO, SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER. I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU SPEAK ON IN HERE. YEAH, PERFECT. I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU'RE, JUST SPEAK LOUD. ALRIGHT. HOW'S THAT MAYOR? YES. OKAY. UH, VERY NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU. UH, MY NAME'S MADISON DIAZ. I'M VICE PRESIDENT AT INVISIO, UH, TRAVEL HERE FROM, UH, GREAT BANK NORTH FRIENDS, UH, VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY. WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK, UH, MEETING WITH OTHER LOCAL COMMUNITIES IN JURISDICTIONS FOR USE, INVISIO OR INTERESTED USING. SO, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. IN TERMS OF AN AGENDA, REALLY JUST PROVIDING A HIGH LEVEL INTRODUCTION TO VISIO AND SHARE HOW THE SOLUTION SOFTWARE ITSELF AND THE TECHNOLOGY COULD POTENTIALLY HELP THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE. UH, REALLY IN THREE FOLLOWING AREAS. SO MANAGING AND EXECUTING PLANS, KEY PROJECTS, MEASURING AND IMPROVING PERFORMANCE, USING DATA, AND THEN COMMUNICATING ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT THE CITY'S DOING OUT WITH CONSTITUENTS. SO I'LL TALK ABOUT INVISIO, SHARE AFIELD A LITTLE BIT, WHO WE ARE, WHO WE WORK WITH, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. AND THEN HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN SHARE SOME LIVE COMMUNITY DASHBOARD EXAMPLES. IF WE CAN'T GET THOSE PULLED UP, THEN I'LL BE CERTAIN TO SEND THEM OUT AND THEY CAN BE SHARED, UH, HERE TODAY. SO A LITTLE ABOUT US. UH, WE'VE BEEN SERVING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. WE WORK WITH WELL OVER 150 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE US AS WELL AS IN CANADA. UH, WE DO CONSIDER OURSELVES THE LEADING INDUSTRY STRATEGY, EXECUTION, PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, REPORTING SOFTWARE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO IN TERMS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, WE DO WORK WITH ABOUT 15, UH, GIVE OR TAKE COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES OF ALL SIZE. AS YOU CAN SEE. UH, I THINK THE MOST RELEVANT, UH, CITY OF IRVING, CITY OF WACO, CITY OF DENTON. MET WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH TODAY. UH, FRISCO. UH, WE DO WORK WITH DALLAS. A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO REALLY USE DATA, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS HELP BUILD TRUST AND, AND BE TRANSPARENT WITH CONSTITUENTS. LOTS OF HIGH PERFORMING CITIES. SO CITIES WITH ACCOLADES, WALBROOK CITIES, MALCOLM BALDRIDGE, PERFORMANCE EXCELLENCE. UH, I KNOW THIS CITY, GRAND PRAIRIE HAS BEEN, UH, RECEIVED A LOT OF ACCOLADES. SO A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY TRYING TO STRIVE TOWARDS HIGH PERFORMANCE ARE GRAVITATING TOWARDS TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS, UH, AS WELL AS INVISIO. THE PROBLEM THAT REALLY WE HELP SOLVE IS THE FOLLOWING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SENSE OF ALL OF THE PLANS, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, STRATEGIC PLAN, OPERATING CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION PLANS, COMMUNITY SAFETY PLANS. THERE'S LOTS OF DATA, BOTH QUALITATIVE, QUANTITATIVE, UM, PROVIDING CENTRALIZED WAYS TO MANAGE THAT, UH, IS BECOMING REALLY IMPORTANT WITHIN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO, UM, THREE AREAS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING, UH, COMMUNITIES. I THINK TEXAS, UH, IS A GREAT STATE IN WHICH A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES LIKE IRVING ARE USING INVISIO TO MANAGE AND TRACK THEIR PLANS. SO WHETHER [00:35:01] IT'S A STRATEGIC PLAN, DEPARTMENT, WORK PLANS, UM, AND AS WELL AS USE IT FOR THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES. SO IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE KEY MEASURES THAT WE CAN, UH, TRACK REPORT ON AND USE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. AND THEN LASTLY, TO BUILD DASHBOARDS AND REPORTS. SO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES SERVING, UH, DENTON HAVE REPORTS THAT THEY PRESENT TO COUNCIL, OFTEN A QUARTERLY BASIS, WHICH GIVE THEM A GLIMPSE INTO, HEY, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS? WHERE ARE WE AT WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS? AND SOME OF THOSE IMPORTANT MEASURES THAT THEY'RE TRACKING. SO THIS IS WHERE I WAS HOPING TO PIVOT INTO A COUPLE LIVE EXAMPLE DASHBOARDS, BUT, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PULL THEM UP. SO WHAT I CAN CERTAINLY DO IS SEND THESE LINKS OUT, UH, STEVE, UH, TO YOU. IF YOU COULD SHARE THEM OUT WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S OF INTEREST, THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS, MADISON, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PULL UP THE LINKS. YEAH. KIND OF DESCRIBE HOW THAT I, I LIKE HOW THE DASHBOARD LOOKS AND IT KIND OF HAS A BAR THAT MEASURES THE PROJECT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN, YELLOW, THE PERCENTAGE COMPLETED. YEP. LIKE ON A ROADWAY. SO PEOPLE ASK US WHERE ARE WE AT ON WILDLIFE PARKWAY, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE WEBSITE, IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR WEBSITE AND THEY CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT PROJECT. AND THEN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HOW I CAN SHOW HOW WE TIE IT TO STRATEGIC GOALS OR OBJECTIVES YEAH. CITIZEN SURVEY RESULTS IF WE CHOOSE TO DO ONE. YEAH. AND I APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE ACTUALLY SEEING IT VISUALLY HELPS BRING IT ALL TOGETHER. BUT YOU'LL SEND US A LINK AND WE CAN GO TO IRVING'S AND CHECK SOME YEAH, IT'S ALL PUBLIC, RIGHT? SO IF YOU JUST WERE TO GO CITY OF IRVING, GOOD. IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. IT'S ALL PUBLIC. AND WE CAN REALLY TRY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE A RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT KNOW EVERYTHING. WE WANT HIGH LEVEL, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE PROJECT, HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT TOWARD THE PROJECT? AND IF THERE'S IMAGES OR A VIDEO THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TELL YOUR STORY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENABLE THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE PROVIDE. SO THERE'S GREEN, YELLOW, RED INDICATORS. ARE WE ON TRACK? ARE WE BEHIND SCHEDULE? PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT. UH, THAT'S THE DASHBOARD AND I THINK YOU SEE IT, IT'LL, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS THAT WE'RE FIXING TO UPGRADE. UH, QUITE A FEW. SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE ONE WE WOULD WANT ON THAT DASHBOARD. SO IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, WE JUST HAD AN EVENT DOWN AT TYREE PARK AND WE'RE FIXING TO DO A MAJOR UPGRADE DOWN THERE. AND THEN WHEN MIKE WAS OUT AT HIS BE FAMILIAR THE OTHER DAY, THEY COULD GO ON THERE AND THEY CAN LOOK AND SAY, WE JUST BROKE GROUND. IT WOULD KIND OF SHOW YOU A STEP BY STEP WHERE IT'S GOING. YEAH. SO IT ALLOWS STAFF WITHIN, WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION TO MANAGE TRACK THAT THOSE PROJECTS AND AS THEY'RE UPDATED, THAT CAN BE REFLECTED ON THE COMMUNITY RESIDENT RESIDENT. OKAY. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO WE GIVE YOU YOUR GROUP THE DATA AND Y'ALL PUT IT IN AND YEAH. SO WE WOULD BE GIVING YOU THE DATA. WE WOULD BE, OUR STAFF WOULD BE INPUTTING THE DATA OR THE DATES AND WHAT, WHAT'S GOING. AND THEN YOU, Y'ALL PUT IT IN THE DASHBOARD. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. SO IS THIS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, MICROSOFT PROJECT MANAGEMENT THAT YOU PUT THE DATA IN, YOU HAVE YOUR, IF YOU WANNA START FOR THE START DATE OR A COMPLETION DATE YEAH. BUT THEN YOU WORK IT WAY BACK. SO IT'S PRETTY JUST VERY SIMILAR TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT. IT'S SIMILAR TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT. OKAY. UH, BUT WE DO CLASSIFY OURSELVES AS A STRATEGY PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE BECAUSE MOST COMMUNITIES WILL USE IT TO TRACK PROGRESS TOWARD THEIR MM-HMM. BUT IT ALSO GIVES, IT COULD, IT GIVES THE SAME DATA. CORRECT. THE DIFFERENCE IS, INSTEAD OF STAFF DOING IT, WE, UH, ALLOW, WE JUST, THAT YOU GUYS MAY UNDERSTAND AND PLUS WE'RE NOT IN A, AND LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MY COMPANY, YOU HAVE TO INPUT IN THE TIME IT TAKES TO FINISH. AND THAT SHOWS YOU WHETHER YOU'RE ON TRACK AND ALL THAT. THIS WOULDN'T GET INTO THAT DEPTH. I WOULDN'T HAVE THINK. RIGHT. THIS IS MORE OF PROGRESS, NOT FULL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT THAT I'VE GOTTA REPORT TO LOCKHEED WHERE WE'RE AT. I, I AGREE WITH THAT. IT DOESN'T SORT A LAG AND CRITICAL, WHICH I DON'T WANT THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S A, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT, IT'LL ALSO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT'LL TIE, IT'LL TIE YOUR COUNCIL PROJECTS TO YOUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES MM-HMM . YEAH. FOR THAT CITIZEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. GO AHEAD. SO DO YOU THINK, UM, JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE, THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS IT, IT BACKGROUND CAN CREATE SOME VERY SIMILAR INTERNALLY? WE DO THE SAME. I'M JUST ASKING. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. UM, WE SPENT 10 YEARS BUILDING THIS SOLUTION SPECIFIC FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO MANAGE AND TRACK PLANS AND PERFORMANCE DATA. RIGHT. WHEN YOU REFER TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, MICROSOFT, UH, PROJECTS A SOLUTION. THERE'S MANY OTHERS IN MARKET. MM-HMM . YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S POINT THAT IS QUITE GRANULAR, UH, WHAT WE PROVIDE IS, IS VERY HIGH LEVEL. UM, BUT YOU COULD TAILOR THAT EVEN FROM PROJECT MANAGEMENT. [00:40:01] SURE. AND, AND COUNSEL, WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS, NUMBER ONE, DO WE NEED IT? DO WE WANT IT, IS IT WORTH THE COST VERSUS GIVING OUR OWN REPORTS AT A LIST LEVEL OR HIRE MORE IN STAFF, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A, THIS IS WHAT IS THE COST? WE DON'T, I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THE QUOTE YET. YEAH. SO I CAN ANSWER. OH, WAS IT? YEAH. SO YEAH, SO PROBABLY, UH, BETWEEN 40 OR $50,000, I, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WE DECIDED TO GO THIS ROUTE, WE WILL LOOK AT ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE. WE WILL, WELL THAT CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH AS WE'LL PROBABLY DO A ONE, A ONE YEAR. HERE'S THE FIRST YEAR, WE'LL PROBABLY DO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT TO JUDGE HOW WE ARE SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT. IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T WANT TO GET US INTO A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THE STAFF TIME IS, IS A CONSIDERATION. UH, THE WAY WE WOULD PROBABLY SET IT UP COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WOULD PROBABLY PHASE IT. I DON'T WANT MY STAFF TO BE PUTTING SO MUCH TIME IN IT THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RETURN BACK. THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME IS ONCE IT'S SET UP, EACH DEPARTMENT OR AREA OF THE DEPARTMENT WOULD SPEND PROBABLY AN HOUR OR SO A MONTH INPUTTING THE UPDATES. I WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, THE TWO THINGS IS PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND TIE TO OUR STRATEGIC, YOUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AS COUNCIL. UM, I THINK IT IS A NEXT LEVEL THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET AS A CITY, BUT OTHER CITIES ARE AND, AND THEY'RE GETTING SOME GOOD FEEDBACK. SO I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE THE CONCEPT. IF YOU ALL ARE GENERALLY FAVORABLE OF THE CONCEPT, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT VENDOR SELECTION, YOU KNOW, LATER THAT CHALLENGE US ALL TO GO ON THEIR WEBSITES OR EVEN TALK TO SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL IN, IN THOSE CITIES THAT HAVE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER HADN. UM, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC FACING PORTION OF THE SERVICE AND THE DATA WE'RE SHOWING TO THE PUBLIC, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE YOU ALL SET UP, UH, AS A MASTER PAGE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CLICK, CAN SEE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT WE HAVE DATA ON THROUGH THE SYSTEM? OR ARE YOU GUYS EMBEDDING THAT INTO DIFFERENT PAGES ON A WEBSITE? YEAH. HOW IS THAT SET UP? YEAH, IT CAN BE EITHER OR. SO WITH THIS, WITH THE SOLUTION YOU'RE MANAGING WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, AND THEN YOU HAVE WHAT YOU REFER TO AS A COMMUNITY DASHBOARD BUILDER. SO IT'S BASICALLY A WEBSITE THAT, UH, BUILDER THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CUSTOMIZE IT, BRAND IT, UM, AND THEN PUSH THAT OUT. AND THAT CAN BE EMBEDDED INTO THE CITY WEBSITE. SO WE HAVE OPTIONS AS TO HOW WE RELAY THE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. CORRECT. UM, MY SECOND QUESTION, SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF REALLY COULD BE OKAY. ANYTHING WE COULD THINK OF THAT WE WANT TO SHARE BASICALLY COULD BE, THIS COULD BE USEFUL. IT'S NOT ONLY CERTAIN TYPES OF PROJECTS. UM, I SAY THAT BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD, UH, SMALL BUSINESS CONTRACTORS, UM, EVENT. AND ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO INCREASE MINORITY CONTRACTS, UM, FOR CITY CONTRACTS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE A PUBLIC FACING ASPECT TO SHOW HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING WITH THAT. UM, SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF THAT WE WANT TO DISPLAY OR IS THIS LIMITED TO PARTICULAR TYPES OF PROJECTS? IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THE TYPES OF PROJECTS AS LONG AS YOU ARE TRACKING AND UPDATING THE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY PERFORMANCE DATA PROJECTS AND THEN STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AND PLANS. SO ANYTHING WITHIN THAT REALM THAT YOU'RE TRACKING, USING THE SYSTEM TO TRACK IT, THEN YOU CAN BE, IT CAN. SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL. SO BASICALLY ANYTHING WE HAVE A PLAN ON, WE COULD, IF JUST LIKE SOME COMPANIES DO THAT FOR MONTHLY SHIPMENTS, FILL UP THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON. BUT I REALLY LIKE THIS CONCEPT, UM, FOR MANY REASONS. THE TWO THAT YOU MENTIONED, ESPECIALLY TRANSPARENCY AND IT CONNECTS WITH OUR OBJECTIVES, A WAY TO TRACK THAT. AND I DON'T, JUST FROM A PERSONAL UH, STANDPOINT, I LIKE THE FACT THAT I COULD GO ON HERE AND NOT HAVE TO CALL THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. THAT MIGHT BE IN A MEETING OR IN WHATEVER. AND WHEN I GET QUESTIONS, WHICH WE DO FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT CERTAIN PROJECTS, THAT I COULD GO THERE AND GET THE ANSWER OR DIRECT THEM TO GO THERE. DIRECT THEM TO, YEAH. DIRECT THEM THERE OR SEND THEM A LINK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. MORE WAYS THAN ONE. BUT DO WE THINK I JUST, I'M JUST THINKING INTERNALLY. UH, I DON'T, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, I'M GOING GO TO TO THE LINKS. I JUST DON'T SEE THE BAG AGAIN. YEAH. BECAUSE [00:45:01] WE ARE, WE'RE DOING ALMOST PROJECT MANAGEMENT. WE GOTTA HAVE SOMEONE ONCE A MONTH TO INPUT DATA, KEEP UP WITH IT, WHAT WE FORGET THIS MONTH, WHO'S GONNA GO BACK AND REMIND THEM, HEY, THIS IS YOUR JOB. IT'S JUST, I DON'T SEE THE VALUE ADDED IN ADDING THIS LAYER THAT, UM, PRIME EXAMPLE, MY JOB WANTED TO DO RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND THEY PAY A CONTRACT OF $25 MILLION JUST TO DO PST FILES ON THE SIDE A PST FILE. AND WHEN I REC, WHEN I GOT ON THE PROJECTS, THEY JUST, YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR A PST FILE. IT CAN DO THAT FOR YOU AND PUT AN END DATE TO END THEMSELVES. CREATE A TIMELINE. YEAH. AND, AND IT WAS DONE AND THEY GOT RID OF THE CONTRACT. SO IF, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITHIN WHAT YOUR WORK EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT I COULD HIRE AN INTERN TO DO THIS AND MAINTAIN SOME WITHIN IT TO MAINTAIN, I HATE TO SIT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT TO MAINTAIN A PROJECT LIKE THIS DATA THAT WE WANT, UH, JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN HEAD WAS SAYING, UH, PROCUREMENT, UH, NON-PROFITS RECEIVING MONEY, OUR GOALS AND INITIATIVES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE CAN, I, I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY OF OTHERS THAT'S OUT THERE, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO EXPLORE INTERNALLY WHAT WE CAN APPLY. I'LL HAVE YEAH. WE'RE, IT WOULD TAKE US, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE. WE'LL EXPLORE, BUT, BUT CASH NOW YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT WITH DOING IT INTERNALLY. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SOME WE HAVE OPINION ON THAT. UM, YES SIR. SO, UM, IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT, WE DO CREATE SPECIALIZED SOFTWARE, BUT, BUT THIS SOFTWARE IS SO SPECIALIZED. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF WE WAS TO DO IT IN HOUSE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BUY A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE TO DO, DO WHAT THIS IS DOING A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE ALMOST LIKE JUST USE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S, IT'S PLENTY OUT THERE. MM-HMM . UH, PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR MICROSOFT, THAT'S A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. CORRECT. THIS SOFTWARE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIALIZED THAT IT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL AND GIVE MORE INFORMATION. YES SIR. WE CAN CUSTOMIZE IT IF WE, YEAH, THIS IS MY OPINION, LET'S DO THIS. LET'S, LET'S KEEP GOING AROUND THE ROOM, BUT WE MIGHT MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER WE'RE HIRING 'EM TONIGHT OR NOT. WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN GIVEN A, A FULL QUOTE YET. I I DO THINK IT HAS ENOUGH MERIT TO US TO GET THE LINK. LOOK AT IT. I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THE PRICE WAS LOWER THAN I EXPECTED BECAUSE THAT'S THE COST OF ONE THAT'S LESS THAN THE COST OF AN INDIVIDUAL YOU HIRE IN IT. SO, UH, UH, I, I, I, MARY, HE'S GOT IT PULLED UP IF YOU WANT HIM TO JUST RUN THROUGH IT, THAT'S THE COST. YES. THAT'S 50,000. THAT'S FOR THEM TO MANAGE. THAT'S THE START. BUT FOR US INTERNALLY, SO YOU GOTTA HAVE THOSE MAN HOURS AS WELL. THAT'S, WE'VE GOTTA PUT THE MAN HOURS IN AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. EVEN IF YOU TRY TO DO IT ON OUR OWN, JUST PROBABLY IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE HOURS. SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST TO USE IT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH OUR OWN COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOU. YEAH. I THINK KURT BRINGS US SOME REALLY VALUABLE POINTS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING IT IN-HOUSE. I THINK WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT, GOING ON THE WEBSITE, THE TRANSPARENCY AND JUST THE NUMBERS ON HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN OUR STAFF FROM THE CITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WAIT. YEAH. BUT HE IS RIGHT THOUGH. WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PLUG I, Y'ALL, YOU, YOU, YOU GOTTA, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE OUT HERE KEEPING TRACK OF RETIREE PARK. OUR PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO INPUT THE INFORMATION FOR RETIREE PARK FOR SURE. YEAH. THE THING THAT MAKES IT BE KIND OF SUPPORTED IS THE FACT THAT IF WE WANTED IT TO DO THAT, GO THAT ROUTE, WE HAVE TO CREATE THE SYSTEM OURSELVES. IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. THIS IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN DOING IT OURSELVES. I WOULD, I WOULD THINK HANDS DOWN THIS IS LESS EXPENSIVE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT I STILL DON'T WANT TO DECIDE TONIGHT UNTIL I DO SOME MORE LINKING, LOOKING AT IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW YOU SAID HE HAS SOMETHING TO SHOW US TONIGHT. YEAH, HE'S GOT IT PULLED UP. IRVING'S, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK. YEAH, I GOT, I I REALLY WANNA LOOK IT ON MY OWN. YEAH. BUT YOU CAN SHOW IT TO US NOW AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US A FULL QUOTE. AND WHEN DO Y'ALL, SO, SO I, I DON'T, MAYOR, I DON'T THINK WE, I THINK WE DO OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES FIRST IN AUGUST, SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME AND THEN PAIR IT IF YOU WANT TO WITH THAT. AND PLUS WE'RE GOING THROUGH BUDGET AT THE SAME TIME AND I THINK OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FIGURE IS PLUG IN ON, ON WHAT THE COST IS OF THIS. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE. UH, GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO DECIDE COUNCIL ME, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT'S OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE. SURE. WELL, WE WOULD DO AN RFQ. WELL, I I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE HOW DID YOU, HOLD ON, HOW DID YOU FIND THEM WITH THAT RFQ? BECAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH AND I LOOKED AT DIFFERENT CITIES AND I LIKED IRVING'S THE BEST. I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I'M INTRODUCING A CONCEPT, NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE A VENDOR. YEAH. SO, SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. WE WOULD GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL PURCHASING PROCESS. SO YOU PROVIDE ALL THE VENDORS AND ALL THE OTHER [00:50:01] OPTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM BECAUSE YOU JUST STATED THIS IS THE ONE YOU PREFER, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER VENDOR THAT HAS SEEN, MIGHT PROVIDE OPTIONS THAT WE, WELL I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD FIND 'EM ALL, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO FIND OUT SOMETHING IN THIS MARKETPLACE. SO YOU, SO YOU, YOU YOU HAVE, YOU GIVE ME AUTHORITY UNDER 50,000, BUT WE CAN ALSO AT ANY TIME GO OUT TO THE MARKET LESS THAN 50. SO ALL I'M TRYING TO DO TONIGHT IS INTRODUCE A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD. WE WANNA GO DOWN THAT CONCEPT. WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PURCHASING PROCESS LATER. I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT. I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OPTIONS BEFORE. SURE. YOU MAKE A DECISION, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT AUTHORITY OF 50,000 OR LESS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OR ABOVE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OPTIONS. ALSO, IF YOU CAN, WHEN YOU CAN GET THE NUMBERS, INCLUDE OUR NUMBERS AS FAR AS HOW MANY OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE TO KEEP UP WITH DATA. SO I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. NONE. WHAT I'VE BEEN REAL SENSITIVE TO IS STAFF TIME, WHAT I'M BEING TOLD. SO, UH, SOME MISTAKES OTHER CITIES HAVE MADE, THEY HAVEN'T INTEGRATED THEIR IT DEPARTMENT AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH WE WOULD DO. SOME OF THE DATA CAN BE QUERIED AUTOMATICALLY. SOME WILL TAKE MANUAL INPUT. WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CHOOSE TO GO OUTWARDLY FACING ON PROBABLY ABOUT AN HOUR OF STAFF TIME A MONTH. THE REASON I'VE ALREADY LOOKED INTO THAT, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WHERE THEY'RE SPENDING 10 HOURS A MONTH AND 'CAUSE YOU DON'T GET THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MANAGING IS DO WE GET THAT BENEFIT FROM IT? THIS IS DEFINITELY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN DOING IT IN HOUSE. I CAN JUST, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AND WELL FOR SURE GUYS AND GIRLS, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH IRVING AND WE'VE TALKED TO THEM. WE WE'RE CON CONTINUE TO TALK TO THEM AND SEE HOW THEIR ROLLOUTS WENT, HOW MUCH TIME THEY'RE SPENDING ON IT. YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST A, A, A CONCEPT AND, UH, WHETHER WE WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH. UH, YES COUNCIL MU HEAD, I LIKE THIS CONCEPT. UM, A LOT OF CITIZENS AS THEY SAY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. SO IF THEY HAVE A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN MIND, THEY'LL GO TO THEIR WEBSITE, TYPE THAT IN. BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING ON, THEN THEY WON'T SEEK INFORMATION. SO THIS KIND OF PUTS MORE DETAILED INFORMATION AT THEIR FINGERTIPS UNDER THESE CATEGORIES TO JUST GET A, UH, A GREATER BREADTH OF INFORMATION, UM, BEYOND WHAT THEY WOULD THINK TO, TO SEARCH ON OUR WEBSITE FOR. UM, AS YOU CONTINUE YOUR PRESENTATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UM, OUT AFTER THE ONBOARDING, WHATEVER TRAINING I'M SURE Y'ALL DO, WHAT IS THE INVOLVEMENT OF YOUR STAFF WITH THE CITY? YEAH, SO THERE IS A SPEAK UP PLEASE. SORRY. THERE IS A TWO TO THREE MONTH ONBOARDING PROCESS WITH ALL OF OUR NEW LOCAL GOVERNMENT CUSTOMERS IN WHICH, UH, WE PROVIDE A TEAM OF FOUR FOLKS, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, CONSULTANT PLANNING AND PERFORMANCE COACH, CUSTOMER SUCCESS MANAGER, AND ACCOUNT MANAGER. THEY ALL HAVE THEIR DEDICATED ROLE TO SUPPORT, UH, EACH CUSTOMER. ONCE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE INITIAL IMPLEMENTATION, THAT'S WHERE WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT THE CITY COUNCIL OBJECTIVES, WHATEVER THAT USE CASE IS THAT YOU'RE WANTING THAT TO START WITH, THAT'S WHAT WILL ROLL OUT. ONCE THAT'S BEEN DONE, THEN YOU MOVE INTO WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE ADOPTION PHASE, WHICH IS REALLY PHASE TWO. AND, UH, THREE OF THOSE FOUR HOSTS STAY WITH YOU AND WE'LL MEET WITH YOU ON AN ONGOING BASIS. TYPICALLY, WE RECOMMEND MONTHLY, YOU KNOW, IRVING, SOME OF THE OTHER CUSTOMERS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS ARE PREMATURE IN THIS, IN WHICH THEY'LL MEET WITH US ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. UH, BUT WE DO ADVISE TO MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS. SO IRVING'S BEEN WITH YOU FOUR YEARS? IRVING HAS BEEN WITH US FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. YEAH. WE WORKED WITH AMY KALA, THEIR INNOVATION AND PERFORMANCE DEPARTMENT. SHE'S NOW MOVED ON TO DENTON, WHICH I, I KNOW YOU, UH, HAVE REACHED OUT TO BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS COMMEND DOING DUE DILIGENCE. WE SPOKE TO BOTH CITIES BEFORE WE CAME IN HERE BECAUSE I WANTED FEEDBACK FROM THEM SURE. AND THEIR EXPERIENCE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I DO, YES. SO IS THIS THE FOUR FACING ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT OR IS THIS GONNA BE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE WEBSITE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IRVING PUSHES OUT PUBLICLY. SO THIS WOULD SO WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING JUST LIKE THAT. IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE TO COMPLIMENT OUR WEBSITE OR TO REPLACE COMPLIMENT. OH NO, WE'RE NOT REPLACING OUR WEBSITE. THIS WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING YOU TOGGLE ON OUR WEBSITE. COUNCIL MEMBER KY WELL, I'LL BE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. I WORK WITH THE DASHBOARD RIGHT NOW WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND MY MEDICAL AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE SEE, AND I WOULD PLAY THE CONSTITUENT, THE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE KNOW. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THEY ALWAYS TELL US WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF. WHEN I'M READY WAITING FOR AN APPROVAL FOR A SPINE SURGERY OR A KNEE BRACE TAKES, I ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK ON THERE AND THEY SAY, WELL LOOK TO GET UPDATES. AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO UPDATE. SO IF I'VE GOT A PROJECT, IF WE ALL HAVE PROJECTS GOING ON AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON BESIDES PROJECTS, ARE WE GONNA HAVE THE STAFF TO UPDATE CONSTANTLY? YOU [00:55:01] KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S MATERIALS. SO, SO THE THE ANSWER IS YES, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU TRUST ME TO. BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 'CAUSE WE LOOKED AT THAT AND I, I TELL YOU, UH, I WILL RELY HEAVILY ON STAFF'S DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFFS FROM DENTON, WHICH WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, AND STAFFS FROM IRVING, WHICH WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH. AND THEY MAY TELL US EXACTLY WHAT STEVE HAS SAID, AND THEY PROBABLY ALREADY HAD TOLD HIM, OUR, OUR PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO REPORT THIS TO THE SUPERVISOR ANYWAY, ARE TO FILL OUT THE FORMS TO SHOW PROGRESS, IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO REPORT IT. BUT THAT'S A, I THINK WE NEED TO NAIL THAT DOWN AND, AND THEN COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW AND THEY, OH, WE NEED STAFF. ONE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED, WE, WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT DID THE SUPPLANT, WE DO FILL A LOT OF PHONE CALLS BOTH COMING IN FROM YOU ALL, BUT DIRECTLY TO STAFF ON A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE ELIMINATED ONCE WE TRAIN 'EM TO GO TO THE WEBSITE. SO THAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE IT. THIS, THIS WOULD, UH, YEAH, NO, WE HAVE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE. 'CAUSE EVERYTHING WE UPDATE IS GONNA BE ON A HIGH LEVEL MM-HMM . YEAH. AND A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS AND GET A LOT OF DETAILS. THEY'RE GONNA WANT MORE WEED, THEY'RE GONNA WANT MORE WEEDS THAN WE WANT TO GET. SO EXACTLY. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND REALISTICALLY, UH, WELL, IT'S GOTTEN MERIT. I WOULD, WHAT MAKES ME INTERESTED IN IT IS THE PRICE POINT IS LOWER THAN I EVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. UH, SO I THINK AS STEVE SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA DECIDE RIGHT NOW. GET US THE LINKS, WE'LL ALL DO, UH, SOME OF OUR OWN TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW MAYBE AND DIDN'T, I'M NOT, AND, UH, THE MAYOR THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, THAT'S ONE LAST QUESTION. UM, PRICE POINT IS LOW. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN IRVING AND MAYBE OTHER CITIES, UH, HAS THE PRICE GOING UP WHEN THEY RENEW THE CONTRACT, IRVING SIGNED, I BELIEVE AT THREE TO FIVE. WE AGREED SOMEWHERE IN THERE AND THEY LOCKED IN A PRICE. SO WE DO OFFER THE ABILITY TO YEAH. AND WE CAN GET THAT PRICE. THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS. SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE CAN'T FIND OUT. SO WHEN IRVING SIGNED, LET'S SAY 2017. IN 2019, DALLAS 20 20 17. 1920, HAS THE PRICE INCREASED OVER TIME? YES. YES. FROM 2017 TO 2023, JUST USING THOSE, JUST THROWING ON WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE FROM 2017 TO 2023? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER I DID THAT TO YOU, BUT ROUGHLY FIVE TO 10% YEAR OVER YEAR EACH YEAR. FIVE TO 10%. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE JUST FIGURE THAT INTO THE MATH, WHETHER WE WANNA DO IT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER FUTURE, FUTURE MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO APPROVE HIM AS MAYOR PRO TEM TONIGHT. SO DEPUTY MAYOR PROM. LET'S THAT GUY. GO AHEAD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. YES. UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR, THE LINKS YOU'RE SENDING IS IRVING, THE OTHER CITY, AND THEN HE SEND US TO DALLAS AS WELL. SO DALLAS, WE'RE ACTUALLY, OUR CUSTOMER SUCCESS TEAM IS ALSO IN DEL AREA, MEETING WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THIS. SO WHO ARE YOU SENDING US LINKS FOR? SO I'LL SEND LINKS TO STEVE AND I'LL SEND NO WHAT CITIES? OH, I'LL SEND, UH, DENTON IRVING. AND THE OTHER ONE I WAS GOING TO DEMONSTRATE TODAY IS, UH, TOWN OF WINDSOR. THEY'RE BASED IN COLORADO. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THOSE THREE WOULD BE FIVE. OKAY. THANKS MADISON. THANK YOU. NEXT, SO WE HAVE A REQUEST. YOU KNOW, WE, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, SPONSORSHIPS, CITY SPONSORSHIPS AND NEW REQUESTS OR REQUEST OF AN INCREASE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS WILL COME TO YOU ALL FOR DIRECTION. SO MANY OF YOU ALL, IF NOT ALL OF YOU, ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS GROUP ON THE WEST BALLET FOR POLITICAL. SO THAT'S THE, THE POLITICAL DANCE TEAMS. THEY'VE BEEN IN OUR CITY ABOUT 30 YEARS. THEY, THEY TRAIN AND WORK WITH KIDS FROM THREE TO 17 YEARS OF AGE. THEY PERFORM AT NUMEROUS EVENTS. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THEM MANY, MANY TIMES. IT'S, UH, LEADERSHIP, TEAM BUILDING, GOAL SETTING, RESPONSIBILITIES. SO THEY HAVE ASKED US TO SPONSOR THEM FOR $2,500. UM, THEY, UH, TO HELP FUND THEIR EXPENSES FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN OUR CITY. SO I'M PRESENTING THAT TO YOU ALL FOR DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION THAT FINALLY, WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME WHO THE, THEIR SPONSOR IS? YEAH. SO CATHERINE BERRYMAN. YES. UH, IS, IS WHO CONTACTED US. AND LUPE CASTILLO IS ALSO WITH THEM. AND THEY DO REHEARSE, I THINK AT CHARLIE TAYLOR. I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT I THINK THEY, MIKE MAY KNOW MIKE. IS SHE? SHE'S, SHE. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T REHEARSE THEIR PICKLEBALL. [01:00:01] THEY HAVE THEIR ROOM. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ROOM, YEAH. IN THE BACK. AND THEY REPRESENT GRAND THREE VERY WELL. OH, THEY DO REAL WELL. I LOVE THEIR DEALS. I I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT. GO ON WITH IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AGENDA REVIEW. THANKS MAYOR. YOUR LAST NIGHT IS MAYOR . PERFECT. UM, COUNSEL, AS YOU KNOW, WE'LL, UH, PROVE REAL FAST. ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 45. UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ACTION ON 46. I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 47 AS WELL. AND I'M ASKING HIM TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON, DEPUTY MAYOR AND JOHN, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, DEPUTY MAYOR TON LOPEZ TO BE MOVE UP TO MAYOR. THERE WAS, LET'S, LET'S BE TRANSPARENT HERE BETWEEN JOHN AND I. JOHN AT ONE TIME WAS TELLING ME HE WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO BE MAYOR COCAINE. AND WHICH WAS, I WAS PROBABLY GONNA LEAVE HIM AS DEPUTY TWICE. UH, BUT HE CAME TO ME A WEEK AND A HALF AGO AND THEY HAVE A NEW ATTORNEY WHERE YOU'RE AT. AND YOU FOUND OUT KIND OF THROUGH HAPPENSTANCE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS ALLOWED TO BE THE MAYOR PRO TIM. SO WAIT, Y'ALL TOLD ME I COULDN'T. WELL, THAT WAS THE OTHER ATTORNEY. SO HE CAN BE MAYOR PRO TIM. AND IT WAS ACTUALLY HIS TIME TOO. SO WE JUST FOUND NOW NEW ATTORNEY, GET A NEW ATTORNEY THAT TELLS YOU YOU CAN'T, WE'LL HAVE TO GO FLIP 'EM. BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 40 TO, UH, HAVE HIM COME BACK AUGUST 1ST, JUST BECAUSE I OPENED THAT YESTERDAY AND THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST AND I KNOW THAT NEXT MONTH WE'RE NOT, WE ONLY HAVING ONE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. HOW PARKWAY. THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THAT AGREEMENT'S VERY, IT'S LIKE READING A HARRY POTTER BOOK, FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. THERE'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST. CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT BUT SESSION AND WE CAN PULL IT, WE WANT TABLE AT THE MAT. WE CAN TABLE IT OR WE CAN VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. SO IT IS ON YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA. IT'S TOO, YEAH, JUST, UH, OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTIVE COUNSEL DOES, BUT WE DID SIT DOWN WITH THAT TIFF BOARD AND REVIEW IT AND WE FELT COMFORTABLE PASSING IT UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY. SO WE ONLY SAW STILL WHICH ONE JOHN ON THE TIP. WHAT'RE TALKING ABOUT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THOUGH TOO? WE ONLY SAW HALF OF IT. WE DIDN'T SEE. SO THERE'S, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND MEGAN IS BRIEFING YOU ALL ON THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. NOW, ITEM 42 AND 43 IS IF THAT 1.3 IS THAT, I KNOW THAT'S NOT FAIR MARKET VALUE ARE DID WE, DID WE DISCUSS HAVING GO A LITTLE ABOVE AND BEYOND? WE DID. PLEASE DID. OKAY. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT, THAT FIGURE WE DISCUSSED THAT IS JUST INCLUDING SOME FUL, UH, COST ON THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED. GOTCHA. CAN WE LOOK AT ITEM 15? I REMEMBER WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE ENTIRE SYNTHETIC ICE. ASK CHIP. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOTAL COST WAS INCLUSIVE OF OTHER RENTALS. THIS IS JUST FOR THE BID FOR THE ICE R INSTALLATION OWNER, NOT THE ICE CREAM. I'M SORRY. SYNTHETIC ICE CREAM. I APOLOGIZE. . THANK YOU SIR. YES SIR. COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE FOR NOW? YES, I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK COMMENT FOR YOUR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RESOLUTION TIME. OKAY, HANG ON. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WHAT ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CANVASSING AND DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE JUNE 10TH ELECTION, UH, BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE, UM, OFFICIAL RESULTS FROM THE THREE COUNTIES AND THEY, UH, THE NUMBERS DID NOT CHANGE FROM OUR ELECTION NIGHT. OKAY. NUMBERS, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. THANK YOU, HONOR, THAT'S INCLUDED THAT PACKET REPORT. SO MAYOR, I'LL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT ONE. FIVE AND SIX, RIGHT? OR IS THAT JUST A CEREMONIES? NO, YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. DO DO 'EM INDIVIDUALLY. ITEM FIVE. AND THEN, UH, NO, SIX IS NOT A MOTION. RIGHT? THAT'S AN ACTION. ACTION. YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM FIVE, THEN SIX IS AN ACTION. THANK YOU. UH, FOR ITEMS 18 AND 20, UM, WERE THERE ANY MINORITY CONTRACTORS THAT APPLIED? DO WE STAFF OUT THERE TWO MINORITY CONTRACTORS? DO WE KNOW STAFF? 18. UH, THAT ALSO ADD, UM, 45 ALSO A NUMBER. ITEM 45. OKAY, LET'S 18 AND 20. LET'S KNOCK THOSE OUT. FIRST EIGHTEENS FOR JASON. IT'S AUTO BODY REPAIRS FOR [01:05:01] FIRE. IT MIGHT BE CHIEF BY TOO. IS THAT FOR FIRE APPARATUS? THE QUESTION IS WHETHER ANY MINORITY COMPANIES, DID WE REACH OUT TO ANY OR DO WE, NOT USUALLY, BUT STAFF, UH, DID WE REACH OUT TO ANY MINORITY CONTRACTORS? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THAT HERE, THAT FIELD OF EXPERTISE? WELL, THIS IS THE DEALER THAT SELLS US THE APPARATUS. SO THEY ALSO WORK ON IT AND PREPARE. MM-HMM . OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. 20. UM, 20 IS, UM, KATRINA OUR CONSULTANT. I THINK YOU HAVE MET AT THE SMALL BUSINESS EXPO SHE'S BEEN DOING, UM, CLASSES FOR, BUT THE QUESTION WAS A MINORITY ASKED. SHE IS A MINORITY. SHE'S A MINORITY. ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO BID ON THIS PROJECT. . OKAY, GOOD. SO THAT WAS, THAT'S THE ANSWER. YES. THE ANSWER IS YES ON NUMBER 20. AND CAN WE, UH, GET MORE INFORMATION ON ITEM 41? 41? ANGIE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT ONE PLEASE? MA'AM? WHO'S 41? WHAT'S 41, ANGIE? IT IS AN ADDITIONAL COOPERATIVE ENTITY THAT THEY GO OUT TO BIDS FOR, UH, OTHERS ENTITIES THAT ARE INCLUDED AS WELL. WHERE WE BECOME MEMBERS, THEY GO OUT TO BED AND WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THOSE CONTRACTS THAT THEY AWARD. THEY DO ALL THE WORK FOR US. THAT'S WHERE WE GET IT. THE SERVICES ARE THE PRODUCT QUICKER. IT'S JUST LIKE BUYBOARD OR SOURCE WELL, OR OMNIA THAT WE UTILIZE NOW. IT'S JUST ANOTHER AVENUE. IT'S JUST ONE, IT'S JUST ONE MORE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX. SO WE, UH, MY LAST 1, 21 TO 25 THAT, THAT INVOLVE THE FG OR IT WENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. UHHUH, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. PUBLIC SAFETY. WHEN, WHEN AN ITEM, UH, WHEN WE HAVE IT IS IF AN ITEM GOES TO ONE COMMITTEES, THEN IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T GO TO, IF WE'RE GONNA DO MULTIPLE COMMITTEES, WE'LL USUALLY JUST DO A STAFF PRESENTATION TO GIVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO EVERYONE. SO WHERE WAS THE STAFF PRESENTATION DONE FOR THESE? THERE WHAT SINCE IT IT, IT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? IT WENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. WE HAD A REPUTATION OF, I'M JUST GONNA ASK A QUESTION. I GUESS I'M LOST ON IF THERE'S FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT MM-HMM . IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO F AND G. WELL WHAT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS PUT IT TO THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS THAT SUBJECT MATTER AND PLUS ANSWER THAT NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO EVERY COMMITTEE. WE ALWAYS, THE STAFF ALWAYS TRIES TO PICK WHICH COMMITTEE IT GOES TO. THAT AND THAT SOMETIMES NEARLY EVERYTHING WE TOUCHED HAS SOMEBODY TO IT, BUT THEY FELT LIKE THIS HAD MORE PERTINENT VALUE TO THE SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THAT'S WHY IT JUST WENT THERE. WELL, UH, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IF THERE'S FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT. I GUESS F AND G SHOULD MAY HAVE BEEN CC'D OR COPIED INTO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE BUDGET. I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT IT WRONG. NO, IT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK. WE JUST TRY, WE TRY TO MANAGE THE WORKLOAD OF THE COMMITTEES. SO NOT SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THE ISSUE WOULD'VE RATHER THIS GONE TO THE F AND G ALSO? EXACTLY. I MEAN, BEING, BEING BLUNT, I DON'T FIND YOU SAYING THAT ONE. I MEAN, OF COURSE Y'ALL DIDN'T MEET THIS MONTH. NO. UM, AND SOMETIMES WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON HERE WITHOUT Y'ALL MEETING AND WE TAKE ACTION. NOW THE, THE DIFFICULTY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE TRY TO MANAGE WORKLOADS ON COMMITTEES, BUT THE DIFFICULTY IS, AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, MOST ITEMS, A LOT OF ITEMS HAVE A MONETARY COMPONENT. AND THAT FNG AGENDA IS GOING GET VERY VOLUMINOUS IF YOU WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING WITH MONEY. SO I'M GONNA NEED SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA GREATLY INCREASE YOUR FNG. AND LET'S LOOK AT THIS ONE. THIS ONE WENT TO RATIFY, THIS WENT TO GEORGIA'S COMMITTEE MAYOR WITH THIS ONE. IT WAS SOLELY ACCEPTING OR REJECTING A GRANT. GRANT. THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC SAFETY. THESE ARE PUBLIC SAFETY GRANTS SOLELY. OH, THEY DIDN'T NEED TO COME TO F AND G. NO THEY DIDN'T. BUT THAT'S MY POINT. I'M TRYING TO MAKE. IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT DID NEED TO, BUT IT DOESN'T. YES. IF WE NOW UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BETTER, IF IT'S AN F AND G SITUATION, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO THERE BECAUSE WE'RE PUT ON, I DON'T WANNA SAY THE MODEL. I JOKE WITH YOU ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. IT GOES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT IN THE FUTURE I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT WHETHER THE OTHER TWO WANT TO SEE IT OR NOT. BUT THE DEAL IS THIS, YOU SHOULDN'T NEED TO SEE A GRANT. NO, NOT NOT A GRANT. SO THAT WHAT, [01:10:01] NOW I WILL TELL YOU IN YEARS, I I HEAR YOU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN, UH, SWAFFORD WAS THE F AND G CHAIR AND TOM WOULD SEND THINGS TO A COMMITTEE OTHER THAN F AND G AND, AND JIM WOULD SAY, I REALLY WISH THAT HAD COME TO ME OR I'M OKAY WITH IT. YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN THERE TOO. I REMEMBER HEARING CHIP, I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I THAT IS VALID INPUT TONIGHT THOUGH. GRANT MONEY. WE HEAR YOU. OKAY. CHIEF, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING COUNCILMAN? THE GUIDANCE I TRY TO GIVE TO MY STAFF IS IF IT'S A GRANT WE'RE ASKING FOR MONEY AND NOT ASKING TO SPEND MONEY. IF IT'S SPEND MONEY, WE GO TO FNG IF WE'RE ASKING TO UH, GET MONEY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL Y'ALL POINTED OUT. YES SIR. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT. WAS THERE ANY, ON ITEM 45, WAS THERE ANY MINORITY SUBMISSION CONTRACT HERE? 45. YES SIR. THAT WAS PUT OUT FOR AN RFQ EARLIER. UH, SO IT WAS OPEN TO EVERYBODY AT THAT POINT. BUT ON THIS ONE THIS WAS SPECIALIZED BECAUSE RFQ WE, WE REALLY DIDN'T GET ANY, ANY, UH, MINORITIES. BUT IT WAS OPEN TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. WE WENT OUT BUT NO MINORITIES APPLIED. RIGHT. SO WHAT DID WE DO WITH ALL THE INFORMATION? UH, THAT WHEN WE HAD THE UH, BUSINESS EXPO? WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT INFORMATION? WHO HAS IT? WAS IT EVEN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AS FAR AS LIKE BASED ON THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET, NEARLY EVERYBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO THAT NIGHT HAD WASN'T EVEN APPROVED TO DO BUSINESS WITNESSES. CORRECT. SO THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND IF THEY COME IN WE'LL HELP THEM GET APPROVED. BUT THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WILL COME IN. THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF ONGOING EFFORTS BOTH WITH PURCHASING AND WITH KAY BROWN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THO THOSE ARE STILL GOING ON. THOSE ARE ONGOING. SO, UH, I MEAN WE CAN, WE PROBABLY, IF Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO SET UP A STAFF PRESENTATION. LET'S DO THAT. UH, SHELL IF YOU'LL GET THAT ON JULY 11TH STAFF PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA INVOLVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PURCHASING. DO CROSS REFERENCE. SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TEAM AND REGISTER TO BE. YEAH, SURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, AS AMERICANA POINTED OUT, A LOT OF 'EM JUST DON'T FOLLOW BACK UP OR THEY DON'T GET QUALIFIED. THOSE THAT, THAT WANT OUR HELP, WE HELP. AND ACTUALLY FOR US, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THOSE, RIGHT? THEY SHOW INTEREST BUT THEY DON'T FOLLOW UP BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THE INSURANCE POLICY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY BUSINESS AND PROBABLY MIKE'S BUSINESS THAT DON'T WANT TO HANDLE THE PAPERWORK GOES ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE GOVERNOR. YEAH, NO. OR THEY CAN'T BE THE PRIME, BUT THEY CAN'T BE THE PRIME. BUT THEY CAN BE SUB. THEY CAN BE SUB. AND BACK TO YOU MAYOR . WELL MAYOR, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR NOW. SO RIGHT BACK AFTER YOU. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE. UH, ITEM 48, THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO THE TABLE. MR. HAS ISSUES. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU. IF HAROLD'S HERE TONIGHT, I'M GONNA TELL HIM HAROLD, THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK HIM OUT. YOU'RE NOT HERE. PULL IT OFF THE TABLE. AND I REALLY AM GONNA TELL HIM THIS JOKINGLY. OF COURSE, OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NIGHT HE COMPLAINED ABOUT KESSLER AND YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT. WE'RE YES, THANK YOU. YOU BET. SO DO I NEED A MOTION TABLE ACT FOR BIG SHOTS? YES. ALL RIGHT. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 5 1 SUB CHAPTER D OF GOVERNOR CODE PT C DISCUSSING NEW FOLLOWS ITEM WANT SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 COUNSELATION WITH ATTORNEY LANDFILL GAS SUPPLY AGREEMENT LEADS SHORT TERM RENTALS AND SHORT TERM RENTALS. ITEM TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.072. COLLABORATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY. ITEM FOUR, SECTION 5, 5, 1, 7. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.