Jun 12, 2023 Planning &amp; Zoning 061223

WE HAVE TWO EXTRA.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE EXTRA.

THERE ARE TWO FOLKS THAT ARE NOT HERE.

WELL, THEY'LL PROBABLY WANT A COPY WHEN THEY GET BACK.

IF YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE, I'LL GIVE THEM TO MONICA.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I LOST MY SCREEN HERE.

THERE WE GO.

IT SHOULD COME BACK IF YOU PRESS THE LAPTOP.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE IT GOES.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT OUR SCREEN BACK.

THEY'RE A ONETIME CHARGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, THIS IS INFORMAL, SO I WANT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STOP ME ALONG THE WAY.

UH, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU TO EDUCATE YOU TONIGHT.

UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE THIS, UH, ABOUT YOU.

SO WHAT IMPACT FEES ARE, THIS IS A, UM, FUNDING MECHANISM, UH, CONTROLLED BY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IN CHAPTER 3 95.

IT'S VERY PRESCRIPTIVE APPROACH OF WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE CHARGED AN IMPACT FEE, WHAT AN IMPACT FEE IS, WHAT THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

UM, BUT ALL OF THIS IS, IS A FUNDING MECHANISM TO HELP GROWTH, PAY FOR GROWTH, HELP THESE NEW, UH, RESIDENTS AS THEY COME INTO GRAND PRAIRIE, PAY FOR THEIR SHARE OF, UH, THEIR IMPACT ON YOUR, UH, IN THIS CASE, WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. IT CAN BE USED FOR, UH, ROADWAYS AND, UH, STORM WATER AS WELL.

BUT TONIGHT WE'RE FOCUSING ON WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SO THE CITY DID THIS LAST UPDATE IN 2018, UH, AS PART OF THE 3 95.

YOU HAVE TO UPDATE YOUR PROGRAM AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS.

YOU CAN UPDATE IT MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT THAT'S THE, THE MAXIMUM YOU'RE ALLOWED TO GO IS FIVE YEARS BETWEEN.

AND THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WHAT OUR ANALYSIS WILL PROVIDE YOU IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IMPACT FEE THAT CAN BE COLLECTED.

SO WE'LL PROVIDE YOU A NUMBER, UM, AND YOU'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THAT IMPACT FEE RATE SHOULD BE.

AND THEN COUNCIL WILL SET THAT NUMBER.

IT'LL BE ANYWHERE FROM ZERO TO WHATEVER THAT MAXIMUM NUMBER IS, AND THAT'LL BE WHAT'S ASSESSED TO NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING INTO THE CITY.

SO IMPACT FEES, I'VE KIND OF HIT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT

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SO THOSE IS ASSESSED AND COLLECTED WHENEVER, UM, BUILDING PERMITS ARE PULLED.

AND IT, SO IT'S JUST A ONETIME THING.

IT'S ALL TYPICALLY INCLUDED BY DEVELOPERS IN THEIR, UH, THINK ABOUT AT HOME.

IT'S INCLUDED IN SOME OF THEIR PROFIT MARGINS GENERALLY, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME SORT OF IMPACT FEE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A ONETIME FEE, UH, THAT'S USED TO PAY FOR CAPITAL GROWTH.

IT'S NOT ANY KIND OF RE REOCCURRING CHARGES.

IT'S NOT A TAX, IT'S ONETIME.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHY WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND WHAT THEIR BENEFIT IS, IS IT'S A FUNDING MECHANISM.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THESE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO SUPPORT THAT GROWTH.

WELL, YOU HAVE THREE MAIN WAYS OF PAYING FOR THAT IMPACT FEES, INCREASING YOUR WATER RATES, OR TAKING ON MORE DEBT.

AND IF YOU SAY, DON'T CHARGE AS MUCH IMPACT FEES, NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE OTHER TWO.

AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN THE THREE SOURCES TO HELP THE ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, THE BURDEN ON THE NEW EXISTING CUSTOMERS SO THAT THE NEW CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR IMPACT.

DOES THAT KIND OF MAKE SENSE? OKAY.

SO IMPACT FEES, I, I'VE KIND OF MENTIONED THIS, THEY'RE USED FOR GROWTH RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, SO THAT'S ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GROWTH.

THE CONSTRUCTION, SURVEYING, ENGINEERING DESIGN, ALL OF THAT, UM, CAN BE USED FOR A GROWTH RELATED, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE'RE FOCUSING ON WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. I KEEP MENTIONING GROWTH BECAUSE TC OR NOT, TCQ, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 3 95 IS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR, TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE RELATED THINGS.

AND SO IF WE'RE REHABBING A WATER LINE THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE, IF WE'RE UPSIZING THE WATER LINE, THE PORTION OF THE UPSIZE IS ELIGIBLE.

UH, SO IT'S ALL RELATED TO THE GROWTH COMPONENT.

IT'S ALL GROWTH DRIVEN.

AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I'VE KIND OF HIT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE INPUT TO US AND TO COUNCIL ON WHAT THIS IMPACT FEE PROGRAM SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

UH, SO DURING, I'M GONNA DO A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW TODAY OF SOME THESE FIRST COUPLE BULLET POINTS, THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS OR LUA AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, OR CIP, WE'LL BE, I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF INTRODUCE THAT TO YOU TODAY.

AND THEN IN OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND HOPE TO GET YOUR, UM, INPUT AND APPROVAL OF THOSE THINGS.

'CAUSE THOSE SERVE AS THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR PROGRAM.

YOU, YOU ACCEPT THOSE.

THEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE TECHNICAL CALCULATIONS, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE NUMBER I TALKED ABOUT WITH A BENCHMARK COMPARING YOU TO SOME OF YOUR PEER CITIES.

AND WE LOOK TO YOU TO MAKE A RE WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL OF WHAT THAT, UH, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RATE SHOULD BE.

UM, SO WE'LL DO THIS MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE THIS ANOTHER MEETING.

WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULE AT THE END, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN I THINK TWO WEEKS.

JUNE 26TH IS OUR CURRENT DATE, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN WE'LL MEET AGAIN, UM, AROUND AUGUST, OR SORRY, JULY, END OF JULY.

UH, TO GO THROUGH THE TECHNICAL CALCULATIONS, THAT'S OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE.

WE MIGHT MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS.

THERE'S SOME, UH, THINGS WE'RE TALKING WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF THAT PROGRAM.

SO KIND OF GETTING INTO THE FORMULAIC PART OF THIS, THIS IS OUR STEPS FOR AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE IN THE RED BOX, STEP NUMBER, UH, TWO, THAT IS THE IMPACT FEE 1 0 1.

JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF THROUGH, UH, MASTER PLAN AND SOME OTHER PROJECT MEETINGS TO, TO ESTABLISH WHAT OUR SERVICE AREAS WILL BE, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND WHAT OUR LAND USE PROJECTIONS WE THINK SHOULD BE.

AND SO WE, WE'LL, UH, AGAIN, I'LL PRESENT THEM TODAY, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY MOTIONS TO APPROVE 'EM OR ANYTHING TODAY.

UM, WE'LL TAKE THOSE TWO PIECES.

THAT'LL BE STEP THREE WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU AND PRESENT THEM.

UH, WE'LL DO THE TECHNICAL CALCULATIONS, COME UP A REPORT, PRESENT THAT TO YOU, LET YOU REVIEW OUR CALCULATIONS VERSUS THE BENCHMARKING, AND THEN WE GO TO COUNSEL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SINCE THIS IS AN UPDATE, YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE'RE TENTATIVELY DOING THAT IN SEPTEMBER.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? OKAY.

IT'S A HIGHER BUY-IN ESSENTIALLY TO BUILD DOWN THERE.

SO SERVICE AREAS.

UM, I MEAN, Y'ALL ALL LIVE HERE.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS VERY DIVERSE IN ITS, UM, GROWTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY, KIND OF THE DALLAS COUNTY PORTION IS PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED, PRETTY WELL BUILT OUT THAN THE SOUTHERN PART.

WHEN YOU GET INTO, WHAT IS IT, ELLIS COUNTY, IT'S MUCH MORE OPEN, A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO WHAT WE CAN DO ON WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES IS DIVIDE THE SYSTEM INTO DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE NORTH SECTOR AND THE SOUTH SECTOR.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE SLIDE HERE, THE NORTH SECTOR IS THE NORTHERN PIECE.

IT'S THAT DALLAS COUNTY SECTION, UH, I GUESS TARRANT COUNTY AS WELL, BUT IT'S EVERYTHING IN BLUE.

AND THEN THE RED SECTION IS THE BOTTOM PIECE, WHAT WE CALL SOUTH SECTOR.

UH, WHAT THAT SECTORS ALLOW US TO DO IS CHARGE DIFFERENT RATES TO DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO EVERY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE NORTH SECTOR.

SO GROWTH COMING IN DOESN'T HAVE TO BUILD AS MUCH.

THERE'S NOT AS MANY CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

AND SO THE POTENTIAL RATE, AT LEAST IN THE LAST UPDATE, WAS MUCH LOWER IN THE NORTH SECTOR.

BUT THE SOUTH SECTOR, THERE'S A LOT OF D GROWTH COMING IN, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO

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SO THERE'S A HIGHER IMPACT FEE RATE.

UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT, UM, AND KIND OF SEE WHAT THOSE TWO NUMBERS COMPARE TO BE.

UH, WE WILL PRESENT THEM AS TWO DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS.

Y'ALL CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AGAIN, IF, HEY, THESE SHOULD BE THE SAME NUMBER BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, OR WE WANT TO PRESENT THEM AS IS.

AND COUNCIL, AGAIN, CAN MAKE IT ZERO TO WHATEVER THOSE NUMBERS ARE.

UH, SO TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH, UM, AS PART OF AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM, WE CAN LOOK 10 YEARS BACK AND 10 YEARS FORWARD, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WE CAN, UM, IDENTIFY FOR OUR CIP AND OUR GROWTH RANGE.

WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT OUR FORWARD PROJECTIONS, I'M GONNA PRESENT SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE.

THOSE ARE PLANNED FOR 25 YEARS OUT.

WE WANNA PLAN FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY BEYOND 10 YEARS, BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT PERCENT OF THAT PROJECT WILL BE USED IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHERE OUR GROWTH PROJECTIONS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, SO WE START, ALWAYS START OFF BY COMPARING YOUR HISTORICAL RATES, WHAT KIND OF GROWTH, UM, YOU'VE ACCRUED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

SO WE WENT BACK, I GUESS A LITTLE OVER A DECADE HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE YOUR GROWTH RATE HAS BEEN PRETTY STEADY RIGHT AROUND ONE, ONE AND A QUARTER PERCENT.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT COG DATA, AND SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE PROJECT IT OUT IS THE, THE BLACK LINE IS A HISTORICAL NUMBER, THE GREEN LINE KIND OF BETWEEN THOSE, I GUESS IT'S PURPLE AND BLUE, BUT THE GREEN 1.8% GROWTH RATE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

THAT'S CITYWIDE GROWTH.

I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH SECTOR, BUT THAT'S YOUR CITYWIDE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT, UH, 25 YEARS THAT WE EVALUATED FOR THIS PROJECT.

AGAIN, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON 10 YEARS.

SO THAT'S THAT 2033 NUMBER THAT YOU SEE AT, UH, 247,000 PEOPLE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF, UM, NORTH SECTOR VERSUS SOUTH SECTOR, UH, WITH THE ROWS ARE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE TERMS OF NORTH AND SOUTH SECTOR.

SO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WE'RE PROJECTING THE SAME, ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF GROWTH, YOU KNOW, NET GROWTH OF ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE.

YOU'RE GOING FROM 3000 TO 28,000 OR 200, 3000 TO 225,000.

SO IT'S A LOT MORE THINGS ARE IN PLACE ALREADY FOR THAT NORTH SECTOR, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

UM, AS PART OF THE IMPACT FEES, I'M GONNA FORMULA THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU IN A COUPLE SLIDES, BUT THERE'S A FORMULA THAT DEFINES HOW THAT IMPACT FEE IS CALCULATED.

UM, SO WE'LL TAKE THE GROWTH, SO WE, THE GROWTH BETWEEN THE TWO SERVICE AREAS, AND THAT BECOMES A DENOMINATOR.

AND OUR NUMERATOR WILL BE THE COLLECTION AMOUNT OR THE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AMOUNT, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED.

SO I'LL SHOW YOU THAT FORMULA IN A MINUTE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS THERE? YES, MA'AM.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SO THE 10 YEAR PROJECTION SHOWS THAT NON-RESIDENTIAL ACREAGE IS GONNA INCREASE.

ARE WE GETTING MORE LAND OR AM I READING THAT WRONG? YEAH, SO WE ARE SHOWING BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE NON-RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF IT.

SO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, I GUESS THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL ANNEXATIONS SOUTH.

UH, SO WE DO, YOUR SERVICE AREA GOES BEYOND THE CURRENT CITY LIMITS.

UH, BUT PART THAT GROWTH IS NOT WHOLLY RESIDENTIAL.

THERE IS SOME, UH, NON-RESIDENTIAL LAND USE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE NORTH HOW IT INCREASED.

I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

SO I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S INCREASING.

WE HAVE ABOUT 1400, BUT, UH, SO IT'S LITTLE POCKETS OF ADDITIONAL GROWTH.

I THINK THERE'S SOME VACANT LAND UP NEAR LONE STAR PARK ESSENTIALLY IS WHERE MOST OF THAT'S AT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, SO THAT'S THE LAND USE ASSUMPTION.

WELL, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, AND WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT MEETING, THE GOAL WILL BE TO PRESENT THIS AND, UH, GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, KEY STEPS FOR NEXT TIME'S MEETING.

OF THAT, UH, OF THAT, THOSE FEES THEY THINK ARE GONNA BE COMING IN? IS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN AT ALL IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE COMING IN? YEAH, LIKE OKAY.

SO IMPACT, OR SORRY, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, CIPS.

SO AGAIN, WE, WE SPLIT OUT BETWEEN NORTH SECTOR AND SOUTH SECTOR.

WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT SERVE ONLY NORTH SECTOR PROJECTS THAT ONLY SERVE SOUTH SECTOR.

UH, SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP HERE, AND IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE, I'VE GOT PRINTED COPIES OF THIS AS WELL, BUT, UH, THERE'S SOME ORANGE PROJECTS ON THIS MAP.

THOSE ARE EXISTING PROJECTS, WHAT WE CALL EXISTING IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

THERE'S THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WITH EXCESS CAPACITY THAT YOU'RE STILL FUNDING.

AND SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL HISTORY OF THESE PROJECTS AND GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH HAS BEEN FUNDED AND WHAT'S REMAINING TO BE FUNDED, AND HOW MUCH GROWTH THOSE PROJECTS CAN SUPPORT SO THAT WE KNOW, UM, HOW MUCH IS REMAINING TO BE COLLECTED ON 'EM IN TERMS OF IMPACT FEES, THE RED PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE, THOSE ARE ALL PROPOSED PROJECTS.

THOSE ARE WHAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

UH, SO THESE ARE NOT IN THE GROUND CURRENTLY.

THEY'RE, UM, AT THIS PRELIMINARY PLANNING STAGE CURRENTLY, AND WE WILL BE IN THE GROUND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE IF OUR, UM, PROJECTIONS AND TIMETABLE HOLD TRUE.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF I'M GONNA SAY THIS CORRECTLY, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE THAT'S FOR PEOPLE COMING IN WHEN THEY DID THE FLUE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE MASTER PLAN, DID THEY GIVE SOME KIND OF PROJECTIONS OF THAT,

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JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FLUME, YOU, AND THEN IN THE MASTER PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR 20 MORE THOUSAND PEOPLE COMING IN HAD DID IN THE PAST, IN, IN THE PAST I GUESS, MEETINGS.

DID THEY MAKE ANY, UH, RAW NUMBERS? DID THEY MAKE A, A, A GUESSTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THE IMPACT WOULD BE A PROJECTION IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT FEE DOLLAR AMOUNT? YES.

UH, THAT WE'LL PRESENT WHEN WE GET TO THAT STAGE.

SO WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET.

WE'RE STILL IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE PROJECT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DO THAT, THEY DO THAT EVERY 10 YEARS.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WAS THERE SOME, WERE THERE SOME FIGURES OUT THERE? SO WE HAVE THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF PEOPLE, UH, I THINK THAT RASHARD WENT TO SAY SOMETHING, WELL, HE WAS ABOUT TO ANSWER IT, THE, WITH THE FLU, WE DO GROWTH PROJECTIONS WITH THE CIP AND THE IMPACT FEES.

THEY DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S RELATED TO THAT GROWTH.

SO THAT'S, IT'S TWO SEPARATE, TWO TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

YES, YES MA'AM.

TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOME NUMBERS OUT THERE, AND YOU CAN DO A COMPARISON AT SOME POINT, THE PROJECTED NUMBERS FROM WAY BACK TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROJECTIONS, JUST KIND OF THE COMPARISON, RIGHT? WELL, THEY WILL USE SOME OF THE FLUME INFORMATION AND POPULATION PROJECTED POPULATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ETJ AREA, HE'S ALREADY NOTED THAT THAT'S WHERE THE INCREASE IS GONNA COME FROM.

THE RETAIL ETJ, WE'RE GONNA ANNEX DOWN THERE, LONE STAR, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP THAT.

SO ALL THAT'S GONNA NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.

HOW MUCH DO WE CHARGE FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE? GOTCHA.

UH, SO THE MAP RIGHT HERE, THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE NORTH SECTOR PROJECTS FOR WATER.

UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SOUTH SECTOR WATER PROJECTS.

AND THE, I CLARIFY HERE, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE BELIEVE THE CITY WILL BE FUNDING.

UH, WE DO KNOW THAT SOME PROJECTS WILL OCCUR IN THIS PORTION OF THE CITY IN PARTICULAR, THAT WILL BE DEVELOPER FUNDED.

SINCE THE DEVELOPER'S PAYING FOR THEM, WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THEM AS AN IMPACT FEE PROJECT.

THEY'LL BE OUT THERE, THE CITY WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE THEM OVER, BUT YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THEM.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA COLLECT IMPACT FEES ON THEM.

UH, SO THIS PRO, THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE MAP HERE, THOSE ARE TO PROVIDE A, A COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, LOOP SYSTEM OF WATER DOWN TO THE SOUTH SECTOR THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT CAN CONNECT TO AND FEED OFF OF.

AGAIN, ORANGE, ORANGE PROJECTS ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND ARE, UH, BEING FUNDED.

AND THEN THE, THE RED ONES ARE PROPOSED.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT AGAIN FOR BOTH SORT SOUTH SECTOR AND NORTH SECTOR.

UH, SAME SYMBOLOGY, SAME THOUGHT CONCEPT THERE.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO, WHEN WE DO THE CALCULATIONS, WE'RE GONNA SPLIT OUT.

THESE ARE THE CIP COSTS IN THE NORTH SECTOR.

THESE ARE THE CIP COSTS IN THE SOUTH SECTOR.

UM, AND I FAILED TO MENTION THIS EARLIER, BUT THE FUNDS THAT YOU COLLECT IN, SAY THE SOUTH SECTOR CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PROJECTS IN THE SOUTH SECTOR.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT THOSE AREAS AND WHAT GOES INTO, UH, EACH OF THOSE BUCKETS.

UM, AND I GUESS AGAIN, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, THIS IS BE ANOTHER SOFTENING POINT WHERE WE'D WANT TO TALK ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE CIP.

UM, SO BE THINKING ABOUT THE MAPS THAT YOU HAVE THERE.

IF WE NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MAPS, WE CAN GET THAT TO STAFF, THE MORE DETAILED.

BUT, UH, WE'D WANT YOU TO LOOK THROUGH, SEE IF THERE'S ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE ON THE MAP THAT AREN'T, OR VICE VERSA.

HEY, WE KNOW THIS ONE'S BEING A DEVELOPER DRIVEN, WHAT HAVE YOU.

WE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND INCORPORATE THOSE PROJECTS AS NEEDED.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE FORMULA THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS WHAT'S DEFINED BY, UH, 3 95.

SO THE IMPACT FEE COST, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BLUE BOX UP TOP, THAT IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COST.

THAT'S THE, THE BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT GOES INTO, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION COST, DESIGN COSTS, EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

THE CREDIT, THE RED BOX.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PROJECT IS A DETAILED CREDIT ANALYSIS.

SO WITH, WITH UH, 3 95, YOU HAVE TWO FUNDING OR TWO MECHANISMS TO DO THIS CREDIT.

THE FIRST ONE, THE SIMPLEST ONE IS THE DISCOUNT EVERYTHING BY 50% AND SAY, HEY, UH, LET'S SAY IT WAS $10 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA CUT IT DOWN TO 5 MILLION JUST OFF THE TOP, AND WE'RE GONNA CALL IT SIMPLE AND GOOD.

UH, THE OTHER MECHANISM IS THIS CREDIT ANALYSIS WHERE WE'RE GONNA LOOK THROUGH, UH, YOUR FUNDING HISTORY FOR THESE PROJECTS AND DETERMINE WHAT PORTION OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ALREADY ALLOCATED IN YOUR RATES.

UH, SO WE'RE, IT'S A METHOD OF AVOIDING DOUBLE DIPPING.

SO THE EASIEST ONE AGAIN IS 50%.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

THIS ALLOWS YOU TO POTENTIALLY COLLECT A HIGHER RATE.

UH, WE WANT TO GET YOUR MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE AS HIGH AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN START WORKING OURSELVES DOWN FROM THERE.

UH, THE NUMERATOR OR THE, SORRY, THE DENOMINATOR, THE GREEN, THE GROWTH AND SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

UH, SO OUR BASE, UH, UNIT OF MEASURE FOR IMPACT FEES IS THE EQUIVALENCY OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL METER, A WATER METER.

AND SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS TYPICALLY A THREE QUARTER BY FIVE EIGHTHS METER, UH, SAY A THREE INCH METER COMING IN.

THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF SO MANY TIMES MORE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

SO THEY HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT.

I FORGET WHAT THAT EXACT CONVERSION IS.

WE HAVE A TABLE,

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BUT LET'S SAY THE CONVERSION IS 60, SO YOU WOULD, WHATEVER OUR FEE IS, IT WOULD BE THAT TIME 60 WOULD BE THE RATE FOR THAT, UH, THREE, THREE INCH METER COMING IN.

UM, THE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF YOU'RE RE SAY YOU'RE REMODELING A HOME THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT CHANGING THE METER SIZE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE CHARGING AN IMPACT FEE, THAT'S WHEN YOU START CHANGING METER SIZES, THAT YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF IMPACT FEES ON THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES.

YES, MA'AM.

SORRY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR METHODOLOGY THAT YOU MENTIONED? THE FIRST WAY WAS THE EASY WAY, THE 50%.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LESS SCIENTIFIC.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THAT.

YEAH, IT'S VERY EASY, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY THE SENTENCE THAT'S IN CHAPTER 3 95, IS THAT YOU CAN JUST CREDIT THE, UH, COST TO IMPLEMENT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BY, BY 50%.

SO THAT'S TC OR NOT TCQ, SORRY, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE WAY OF SAYING WE WANNA AVOID DOUBLE DIPPING.

WE WANT YOU TO NOT BASICALLY CHARGE A CUSTOMER TWICE IN THE RATES AND THE IMPACT FEES.

UH, SO YOU JUST CUT WHATEVER YOUR COST IS IN HALF, AND WE'RE GONNA ASSUME EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE MADE UP BY RATES.

UM, THE MORE DETAILED WAY OF SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED THESE TO DEBT SERVICES, UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT MA THEY'RE GONNA BE IN RATES AND THESE AREN'T.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED PROCESS.

WE, UH, ARE MEETING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD QUESTION.

MORE AROUND WHO, WHO COLLECTS THE FEES? THE CITY.

SO WHENEVER A UM, DEVELOPER COMES IN, THEY ARE ASSESSED THE IMPACT FEE WHENEVER THE PLAT IS, UH, FILED.

AND THEN IT'S COLLECTED WHENEVER THE BUILDING PERMIT'S PULLED.

EXTRATERRITORIAL EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

SO WHENEVER THE CITY PULLS ALL THEIR, LIKE TAP FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE IMPACT FEE IS COLLECTED.

I'M ASSUMING THE CITY ALSO KEEPS UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION OR THE, UH, FUNDING OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND YEAH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

YEAH, GOOD QUESTIONS.

UH, SO I'VE KIND OF HIT ON THE SCHEDULE A COUPLE TIMES, BUT CURRENTLY OUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK IN, I THINK THAT'S TWO WEEKS TO, UH, PRESENT AT YOUR NEXT, UH, MEETING, DO ANOTHER BRIEFING HERE.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE ACTIONS TO APPROVE THOSE COUPLE THINGS.

THERE'S A CHANCE WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE THIS A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THE ETJ.

UH, SO IN ORDER TO, UH, DO IMPACT FEES IN THE ETJ, WHICH IS MOSTLY WHAT YOUR SOUTH SECTOR IS CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT.

SO WE'RE WORKING TO FINALIZE THAT PERSON RIGHT NOW.

CAN YOU SAY WHAT ETJ IS PLEASE? YEAH.

THERE WE GO.

SO WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THESE WE'RE LAY PEOPLE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THESE.

WE START GOING THESE ACRONYMS WE NEED TO, SO YOU CAN GIVE US THAT, MAYBE SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT.

SO WITH THE ETJ, THAT'S THE POLITICAL BOUNDARY THAT'S OUTSIDE YOUR CITY LIMITS THAT THE CITY'S IDENTIFIED, UH, IN ORDER TO ASSESS IMPACT FEES IN THAT AREA.

SO IF I GO BACK, LET'S SEE HERE.

DOES IT SHOW ON THAT? IT'S THAT THAT'S, THAT'S E SERVICE AREAS? YEAH, THERE WE GO.

SO IN THE SOUTH SECTOR SERVICE AREA MAP, YOU SEE THE KIND OF THE YELLOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOUNDARY, UH, THAT IS THE CITY LIMITS BOUNDARY.

SO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT BASICALLY CUTTING THROUGH THE T AND O, THAT'S MORE OR LESS YOUR CURRENT CITY LIMITS.

EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THAT IS IN YOUR ETJ.

AND SO IT'S NOT ANNEXED YET INTO THE CITY IN ORDER TO CHARGE IMPACT FEES THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT AREA AS PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONE MEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MEMBER YET.

I THINK WE'RE WORKING OUT SOME STUFF WITH THE CITY TO IDENTIFY THAT PERSON AND GET THEM, UH, APPOINTED TO THIS COUNCIL AS AN AD AD HOC MEMBER.

AND THEN ONCE THAT MEMBER'S ON BOARD, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTING IMPACT FEES IN THAT AREA.

JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT, THE, YOU MENTIONED SOUTH SECTOR, THE RED AREA, THAT AREA THAT'S DARK IS THE ETJ, EVEN THAT AREA THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THE DONUT THE CITY BACK IN, I BELIEVE WHAT, 2017.

SOMETIME THEY ANNEXED KIND OF A, A WEIRD ANNEXATION TO DEFINE OUR BOUNDARY ON THE EAST.

AND SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF ETJ OPEN AREA THAT IS JUST AG THAT AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA CONSIDER WITH ALL OF THIS.

SEEING SOME MOVEMENT, Y'ALL.

WHEN YOU RASHAD, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT AREA BEING AG MM-HMM .

THOSE PROPERTIES DO NOT GENERATE HARDLY ANY PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE THEY HAVE MAJOR EXEMPTIONS ON 'EM.

SO TO BRING THEM INTO A COMMERCIAL SETTING WOULD ADD A LOT OF TAX BASE OUT THERE TO THAT AREA TOO.

WELL, THERE'S SOME WORKINGS BEHIND THE SCENES ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN BOTH THAT DONUT AREA AND THE AREA TO THE SOUTH.

WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO'S PURCHASED 5,000 ACRES IN THE SOUTH AND ABOUT 1200 ACRES ON THE NORTH.

SO, UM, AND I, YOU'LL START

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WELL, THE, WE WENT TO THE WORKSHOP OF LOSING IT , SO YOU'LL START SEEING SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

THE ONLY THING I REMEMBER IS THAT IF, IF I WAS CORRECT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, SOME KIND OF ANNEX, UH, SATELLITE THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT BUILDING FROM THE CITY YES.

CITY FOR CITY SERVICES.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS COMES IN.

ONCE WE ANNEX IT IN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CHARGE IMPACT FEES IF IT'S NOT ADDRESSED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR ANY EXCEPTIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY HAVING SOMETHING ATTACHED, SOMETHING THERE THAT YOU COULD PULL FROM.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE ON JUNE THE 26TH.

SO I WOULD BE NICE IF YOUR MEETING GOT PUSHED BACK, BUT WE'LL SEE IF THAT HAPPENS.

UM, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS COME FROM WHAT I DO WORK IN THE ENERGY BUSINESS AND IN THE, WHEN YOU INTERCONNECT, TYPICALLY THE LAST PERSON ON THE LINE PAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT WAS ON THE LINE BEFOREHAND THAT THEIR SERVICES ISN'T CURTAILED OR INTERRUPTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, ON SLIDE SIX, THERE'S THREE FUNDING MECHANISMS, RIGHT? THERE'S WATER RATE INCREASES, ADDITIONAL DEBT, AND THEN THE IMPACT FEE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY CHARGED TO THE, THE BASICALLY THE NEXT MARGINAL PERSON TO COME ONTO THE WATER SYSTEM, RIGHT.

WITH THE FIRST TWO, THAT'S A COST THAT WOULD BE EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WOULD PAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE BETWEEN THOSE THREE BUCKETS OF MONEY THAT IT GETS PAID MORE FOR BY THE NEW PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO AMORTIZING ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY? YEAH, SO PART OF THAT GOES INTO, UH, WHEN WE DO THE IMPACT FEES WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT AN OPTION OF A NORTH SECTOR AND A SOUTH SECTOR SO THAT NORTH SOUTH SECTOR, SORRY, WHERE THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH WILL LIKELY HAVE A HIGHER POTENTIAL IMPACT FEE RATE.

UH, SO THAT WILL CHARGE THEM MORE THERE.

UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE WATER RATES WILL BE EQUALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THE CITY EVALUATES FREQUENTLY AND WILL ADJUST THE WATER RATES AS NEEDED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST OF OPERATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN AS WE IDENTIFY THE CIP PROJECTS, UH, HOPEFULLY SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BECOME FUNDED BY THE IMPACT FES, WE'LL HAVE BEEN COLLECTING MONEY AGAINST THEM, UH, BUT THE OTHER ONES WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE DEBT SERVICES AND, UH, BONDS TO PAY FOR THEM.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY UP FRONT THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES SO THAT WE CAN, UH, OFFSET THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BONDS LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT SO IT COULD BE, 'CAUSE THESE, WE WENT TO THAT OFFSITE THING THAT RASHAD WAS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE ARE GONNA BE GREAT HOMES MM-HMM .

AND IF TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OF THAT IS PAID FOR BY WATER RATE INCREASES OR ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT COULD BE PAID FOR BY PEOPLE THAT WERE LEGACY GRAND PRAIRIE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT STAND VERY LITTLE CHANCE OF GETTING THE SAME KIND OF REAL ESTATE APPRECIATION PRICE THAT THOSE THINGS SOUTH OF THE, OF I 20 ARE GONNA GET.

SO MY, MY QUESTION IS IT'S, SO THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY AS TO MAKE IT MORE THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR THE NEW BURDEN TO THE SYSTEM.

IT IT DOES HAVE TO BE AMORTIZED ACROSS THE CITY FOR WATER RATES.

UH, FOR THE IMPACT FEE RATES.

SORRY, YOU FINISH I'LL.

GOES TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS ANALYSIS.

SO FOR THE IMPACT FEE RATES SINCE WILL BE THE SOUTH SECTOR SPECIFICALLY WHERE A LOT OF THAT'S COMING IN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, AGAIN, IT'LL BE A POTENTIALLY HIGHER AMOUNT.

SO ANY OF THOSE DEVELOPERS COMING IN, SAY THEY BILL 500 HOMES, THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGED THAT FEE FOR ALL 500 HOMES.

THAT DOES GET PASSED IN TO THE COST OF THE HOME GENERALLY.

BUT, UH, ALL OF THAT IS, IT'LL BE HIGHER IN THE SOUTH SECTOR SO THAT THE NORTH SECTOR RESIDENTS ARE LESS BURDENED BY IT.

YOU KNOW, THE, AN EXISTING RESIDENT, UH, IN THE, IN THE NORTH SECTOR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CHARGED JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE COMES IN.

SO THE GOAL IS TO USE THESE IMPACT FEES TO PUT, REDUCE THE NEED TO INCREASE THE WATER RATES AS MUCH.

UH, SO IDEALLY WE START COLLECTING ALL THESE IMPACT FEES THAT BECOMES A BIGGER BUCKET THAT WE CAN FUND THESE PROJECTS WITH.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE WATER RATES TO PAY FOR THEM OR AS MUCH, OR INCREASE THEM AS MUCH.

IT'S THE AS MUCH PART THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO INCREASE THE FEES AND IT'S THE AS MUCH PART THAT IT'S THE, AS MUCH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.

DO YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? I WAS JUST, I'LL JUST ADD, AND SINCE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT IN DETAIL TONIGHT, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS EACH EACH CIP PROJECT, IT BASICALLY HAS A CAPACITY A, WE WILL SAY A, UM, 15 INCH SEWER LINE HAS A CAPACITY OF CARRYING SO MUCH WASTEWATER FLOW.

AND WE SPLIT THAT OUT.

THE, THE, THE KIND OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF THE ANALYSIS, WE'LL SPLIT THAT INTO THE THREE PORTIONS.

THERE'S A PORTION OF CAPACITY THAT SERVES EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

THERE'S A PORTION THAT'LL SERVE 10 YEAR GROWTH IS, WHICH WE'RE FOCUSED ON FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THEN THERE, IF THERE'S ANY EXCESS CAPACITY OUTSIDE THE 10 YEAR WINDOW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF BUCKET OF MONEY.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A 15 INCH WATER LINE THAT COSTS $10 MILLION AND 5 MILLION OR 50% OF THAT ALREADY

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SO THAT PART'S ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR AND EXISTING CUSTOMERS AREN'T PAYING ANYTHING ADDITIONAL INTO THAT NUMBER, THE KIND OF THE REMAINING CAPACITY THAT'S ALLOCATED FOR GROWTH, THEY'RE GONNA PAY THAT EQUITABLE SHARE PROPORTION OF THAT PROJECT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO TIE ONTO THE SYSTEM.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? KIND OF.

WE'LL HAVE SOME HERE AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE SOME VISUALS DOWN THE ROAD THAT KIND OF EXPLAIN WHERE ALL THE, THE BACKGROUND CALCULATIONS AND NUMBERS DO COME FROM.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WHEN DID WE START ACTUALLY COLLECTING THE IMPACT FEE? I SEE YOU SAID IT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT WHEN DID THE CITY START ACTUALLY COLLECTING FROM DEVELOPERS AND HOMEOWNER? UH, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT DATES BACK AT LEAST TO THE 1990S.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT I'VE HAD IN PLACE, A PROGRAM Y'ALL HAVE HAD IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT ABOUT AMORTIZATION.

YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ON THE FEES.

SO, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHEN THOSE FIRST PEOPLE GOT HIT WITH THAT, THEN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE NEVER HIT WITH THAT PRE, PRE 1990 THEN.

CORRECT.

SO THE, THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM AND THE WAY THE LAWS AND RULES ARE WRITTEN IS TO BE AS EQUITABLE AS, AS POSSIBLE FOR BOTH SIDES.

SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MAXIMUM LIABLE FEE, YOU'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE MOST BURDEN OFF YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS AS YOU CAN.

SO THEY GET SOME CREDIT FOR BEING A LONGTIME TAXPAYER, SO TO SPEAK? WELL, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS PAY ZERO IMPACT FEES.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE LAW FOR, OKAY.

SO THAT'S MM-HMM .

AN EXISTING HOME WILL NEVER BE CHARGED AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEE.

SO IF YOU WERE TO GO BUY AN EXISTING HOME RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE CHARGED AN IMPACT FEE FOR MOVING INTO THAT HOUSE.

IT'S JUST SO WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.

IT IT'S ONLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN.

GOTCHA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEP.

I THINK I JUST HAD ONE SLIDE LEFT.

I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE, RIGHT? OOPS, THERE IT IS.

UM, SO YEAH, THIS IS A SCHEDULE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT'S KIND OF INFLUX ON IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT JUNE 26TH MEETING OR NOT.

BUT, UH, IF ALL THINGS GO TO PLAN, WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AND THEN AGAIN IN ABOUT A MONTH AFTER THAT.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL PRESENT THOSE CALCULATIONS TO YOU AND GET YOU THE, THE TOTAL OR THE POTENTIAL MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE.

LET YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AND COME UP WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IN SEPTEMBER.

SO THE, THE GOAL OVERALL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO HAVE THE NEW IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE IN PLACE FOR THE START OF 2024.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

SO BOTTOM LINE, WE'RE, WE'RE LAY PEOPLE, WE'RE JUST CITIZENS MM-HMM .

SO WE'RE JUST WHAT OUR EDUCATED GUESS IS ON THIS 'CAUSE WE'LL NEVER KNOW ALL THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TO YOU ALL OF THE TECHNICAL CALCULATIONS.

WE'LL GET INTO WHATEVER DETAILS AND WEEDS YOU WANT.

UM, AND THEN, SO AT THE END OF IT, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THIS IS THE, THE POTENTIAL RATE AND LET YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL TO BE.

AND THEN COUNSEL WILL MAKE THAT DECISION AT THE END OF THE DAY OF WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT INTO THE ORDINANCE.

RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE COULD DECIDE ONE THING AND COUNCIL DECIDE SOMETHING ELSE.

WE'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT WITH IMPACT FEES MYSELF, .

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IS THAT, IS THAT IT FROM YOUR GROUP? YEAH.

STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, TO PRESENT? ? HI SAVANNAH.

HELLO.

EXISTING STRUCTURES AND USES THAT ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO THE FIRST TWO ITEMS FOR PRESENTATION, UH, TONIGHT WILL BE PRESENTED TOGETHER SINCE THEY'RE RELATED.

THE FIRST COMPONENT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE ZONING CHANGE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.

UH, THIS FIRST COMPONENT IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FROM WHAT'S EXISTING, UM, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

IT'S ABOUT 11.9 ACRES AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS UH, COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND THE COMMERCIAL.

AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THESE PROPERTIES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH HAS TRIGGERED THIS REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.

ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THE AREA.

UH, THE, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF MIXED USE WHICH IS IN BLUE AND RED IS THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE.

SO STAFF'S UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

UH, STAFF DOES NOTE THAT A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPMENT OR IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH

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UH, SO THE SECOND ELEMENT IS THE ZONING CHANGE.

AGAIN, SAME PROPERTIES.

UH, THE EXISTING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THIS IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE AREA.

UH, SO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, THE FIRST ELEMENT WHICH IS ZONED COMMERCIAL OFFICE IS STRIPER ZONE, WHICH IS AN EXISTING PAVEMENT STRIPING BUSINESS.

IT CURRENTLY OPERATES THERE.

UM, THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE USE OR ANY ADDITIONS TO THE STRUCTURES OUT THERE.

UM, BUT THEY ARE REQUESTING IT BE REZONED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THE SECOND PORTION IS TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S ZONE COMMERCIAL.

AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST BUILDING WHICH IS FACING GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S A TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF STOREFRONT WINDOWS.

UH, THE SECOND BUILDING IS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF IT AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

UM, SO STAFF'S UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE MAP STAFF DOES NOTE THAT A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPMENT WITH CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH EXISTING STRUCTURES AND USES THAT ARE NOT IN LINE WITH FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

I WILL NOTE THAT THIS REQUEST, IT WAS INITIATED BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING READY TO LEASE THOSE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS A MORE INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ALLOWED USES.

IN SOME INSTANCES, A USE MIGHT REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND COMMERCIAL AND BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, SO THEY DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY TENANTS AT THIS TIME, BUT INDICATED THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING THE SONY CHANGE TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN UH, SIGNING ON A FUTURE TENANTS CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

I'M SO GLAD YOU JUST SAID THAT 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REAL REASON BEHIND THAT? SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO DO AN SUP UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN, DO YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA USE ANY OF THESE NEW BUILDINGS FOR THEIR OWN BUSINESS OR ARE THEY ONLY LEASING 'EM OUT? I BELIEVE A PORTION OF THE, EITHER THE, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WILL BE USED, USED FOR THEM AS PART OF STRIP ZONE.

I THINK IT'S MORE OF A, A COMMERCIAL RETAIL ELEMENT.

UH, BUT THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE HERE TONIGHT AND CAN UH, KIND OF DISCUSS THEIR PLANS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER COLEMAN? THIS AREA SEEMS TO BE DEVELOPING AS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA 'CAUSE I NOTICED, UH, THAT RIDER, THAT'S CORRECT.

TRUCK RENTALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE ANY PLANS TO FOR THAT OLD HOSPITAL OUT THERE IN THE WORKS? YES.

RASH? YES.

? YES.

SO THERE'S A, A NEW TENANT TAKING OVER THAT HOSPITAL DISTRICT I OR THE HOSPITAL.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT STATUS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN, IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING PERMITS AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES AND ALL THAT, BUT IT IS PART OF A REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT, UM, WITH THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART, UH, DEPARTMENT AND THAT FUTURE TENANT OR FUTURE OWNER.

COULD MR. FEDCO, SORRY.

SO IF WE, UH, CHANGE THIS TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEN STUFF THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEFORE HAPPENED TO BE DONE UNDER SUP, THEY GET TO DO BY RIGHT.

UM, BUT IF IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALL HAS TO BE INSIDE DONE INSIDE THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE, THE FOUR WALLS OF THE BUILDING, NONE OF THAT'S OUTSIDE ACTIVITY.

SO I BELIEVE THE OUTSIDE STORAGE ELEMENT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

IN SOME INSTANCES I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

AND IF THIS LOCATION WOULD TRIGGER THAT, UM, BUT IN GENERAL, STAFF'S MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING.

MR. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT SEEMS LIKE AN KIND OF A, NOT A, NOT A, A DECENT ASK AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO TRY TO STRETCH OUT A LITTLE BIT AND TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO AM I READING THAT RIGHT? YEAH, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE UPDATED THE SITE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY INGRESS AND EGRESS ISSUES THAT MAY COME WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, SOME BOX TRUCKS AND WHATNOT.

I KNOW TRANSPORTATION ALLOWED FOR THEM TO HAVE SOME WIDER DRIVEWAYS AND APPROACH ANGLES.

SO OVERALL THE, THE BUILDING CAN FUNCTION FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

UM, IT'S JUST MORE SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP, OPEN UP THE DOOR TO ALLOW FOR THOSE USES TO COME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE FREELY THAN, BUT WILL IT TAKE AWAY FROM THE LOOK? IS THAT WHAT ANOTHER PART OF THE WON'T TAKE AWAY? NO, THIS IS STILL GONNA LOOK THE WAY IT IS.

IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH BUILT.

IT'S ALREADY BUILT FROM A MARKETING ASPECT, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S WIDER WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MARKET A PRODUCT.

CORRECT.

SO I THINK IT WOULD, I THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR 'EM TO, TO FILL THE RENTAL AND THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN EMPTY WAREHOUSE SPACE.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT THAN THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE HERE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M BRITTANY MUSSER PLANNER.

I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 10 SUP 23 0 4 0 0 1 4.

THIS IS AN SUP SITE PLAN FOR A GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY COMMONS.

IT'S LOCATED GENERALLY AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SO GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY AND BARDON.

SO THE REQUEST IS FOR TWO NEW RETAIL BUILDINGS ALONG WITH A DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S TRIGGERING THE SUP ASPECT OF THIS.

SO IT'S ZONED PD 30 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR I 20 CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

SO THEY DO HAVE TO MEET OUR APPENDIX F STANDARDS.

THIS SITE'S ABOUT 2.55 ACRES.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE BOTH 8,851 SQUARE FEET.

DOES INCLUDE 1000 700, 12 20 OR 25 SQUARE FEET FOR THE UM, RESTAURANT PORTION WHERE THE DRIVE THROUGH.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL BUT THE DRIVE-THROUGHS ON THE UH, NORTHERN PORTION AND THE BACK PORTION.

SO IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY WELL SCREENED FROM SOUTH GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

SO OOPS.

SO THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO SETBACKS BUILDING HIGH MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO.

THEY ARE ALSO MEETING ALL OF OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE DRIVE THROUGH QUEUE.

SO IT DOES REQUIRE SIX DRIVE THROUGH QUEUE SPACINGS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, BUT THEY'RE ALL PROVIDED THERE.

THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING THE TRASH RECEPTACLE AS WELL.

SO THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SO THEY ARE MEETING OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION.

SO SOUTHERN PORTION DOES ABUT A RESIDENTIAL RUN NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THAT MASONRY SCREENING WALL, WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

THERE IS ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR, BUT I'LL GET INTO THAT AT THE END.

SO THESE ARE THEIR ELEVATIONS.

THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF OUR APPENDIX F STANDARDS HERE, EXCEPT FOR ONE, WHICH AGAIN I'LL TOUCH ON IN JUST A SECOND.

AND THE TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE IDENTICAL OTHER THAN THE DRIVE-THRU IN THE NORTHERN PORTION.

SO THE TWO VARIANCES THEY'RE REQUESTING, THE FIRST IS TO THE GLAZING.

SO THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM 50% GLAZING TO OF ALL THE AREA OF THE FACADES TO ALLOW FOR 37% GLAZING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THAT RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

SO PENNIX F DOES REQUIRE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER DOWN THERE.

SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR TWO FOOT BUFFER FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AND THEN THEY'LL GO UP TO THE 15 FOOT BUFFER.

THE REASON THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT IS SO TRANSPORTATION ASKS THAT THEY MOVE THE DRIVEWAY SOUTH SO IT LINES UP WITH THAT EXISTING MEDIAN, UM, MEDIAN CUT ON SOUTH GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

ALSO, I DID WANNA NOTE, OH, I THINK I ACCIDENT, LOST THE SLIDE.

I DID WANNA NOTE THAT THERE WAS TWO OPPOSITION LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS TO THE SOUTH.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A WHOLE LOT.

UM, AND DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IION, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW.

UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT RESTAURANT IS CONSIDERING? SO THEY, SO FAR ARE, THEY'RE EXPECTING SUBWAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND UM, SO AS FAR AS THE RESIDENCE, WHERE THEY PUT THE BOX, WHERE THEY, THE THE CALL BOX, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCE IS IT? NO.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE RESIDENTS ARE ON THE SOUTH.

ACTUALLY I'LL GO TO THE, SO THE RESIDENTS ARE ON THE SOUTH, THE DRIVEWAY PORTION'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE ON THE NORTHERN.

YOU DON'T HAVE A POINTER, DO YOU? 'CAUSE WE CAN HARDLY FOLLOW YOU, KINDA SORT YES THERE.

OH GOOD.

YOU SEE IT? OH YEAH.

UM, SO ON THE NORTHERN PORTION RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY WHERE IT'S GONNA BE.

SO IT'S GONNA BE IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE EXISTING WALGREENS THERE.

AND SO SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL HAVE THE WALL, UM, SIX FOOT THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT, THAT, IS THERE A PIT THERE FOR THE, THERE'S THAT SUBDIVISION HAVE A PIN? I'M NOT POSITIVE.

I HAVE TO LOOK TO THAT.

YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT THEN.

UH, YES MA'AM.

DOWN IT'S THE UH, UH, OCALA SHEFFIELD, UH, AND I THINK THEY'RE, UM, VERY UNITED.

SO, UM, I DON'T RECALL SEEING A, THERE'S A BUFFER BE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A NEW CAR WASH OR A NEW BY ALDI, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT POSITIVE ON THAT ONE.

ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THAT ONE DID, DOES HAVE A NICE WALL, BUT UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR THIS LOCATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HAVE THERE BEEN ANY MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA? I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT HAS, BUT THEY'LL BE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 11 AND 12, UM, WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.

SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THEM TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE

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PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FOR 1926 MAYFIELD ROAD.

SO CURRENTLY THIS AREA IS, UM, THE DESIGNATION FOR THE, UH, FLUME IS ACTUALLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF A PROPERTY ON 1926 MAYFIELD FROM SF TWO TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH AN OFFICE USE.

SO THEY'RE BASICALLY CHANGING SINGLE FAMILY TO A RESIDE TO A COMMERCIAL USE.

UM, TO ALIGN WITH THIS REQUEST, WE NEED TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL LAND USE MAP FROM LOWDEN CITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL OFFICE.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WITHIN UM, A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER, THIS LITTLE CIRCLE IS A THOUSAND FEET, SO IT'S ABOUT A 0.2 MILES.

UM, THERE IS NO OTHER PROPERTIES IS ZONED COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY.

SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING RIGHT NOW.

IT SHOWS YELLOW, THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO THE RED TO REPRESENT THE COMMERCIAL USE.

SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, THIS PROPERTY IS JUST THE WEST, UH, EASTERN HALF OF THE F TWO.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY PDS, BUT ALL PDS AS YOU CAN SEE ARE BASED ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BEEN FULLY BUILT OUT.

SO STEPH IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL SINCE THE OFFICE USES INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LINE USE MAP.

AND I'LL RECOVER THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND GO MORE INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO IF THE ZONING CHANGE WAS TO BE APPROVED.

SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY TOO.

THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING PLAN DEPLOYMENT FOR OFFICE USES ON 0.8, UH, ACRES OR SO.

SO I COVER THIS PAGE, SO I'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

SO BASICALLY THEY'RE ASKING, HEY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OFFICES HERE ON THIS LOT AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATE THAT AREA AS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEANING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO THEY ARE MEETING, UM, MOST OF THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT EXCEPT FOR THE LOT SIZE, WHICH ARE COVER IN THE VARIANCE SECTION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE STREET VIEW.

SO THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE AT THE CORNER.

UM, THE PROPERTY COVERS ACTUALLY THIS EMPTY LOT AND THE LOT WITH AN OLDER HOME.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A VIEW OF THAT AREA FROM THE AREA.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING HOUSE, THERE'S A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS A ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EXISTING ON THERE.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AS SHOWN IN THE DARK OR YELLOW.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PROPOSING OFFICE USES WITH PARKING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, SO SHOWN ON THE GREEN WITH THE DASH LINE, THEY'RE REQUESTING VARIANCES.

SO TYPICALLY AS BRITTANY TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE, UH, HAVE THE COMMERCIAL USES AS JASON OR A BUDDING RESIDENTIAL USES, THEY'RE TYPICALLY A SCREENING REQUIREMENT.

IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUT SIX FOOT MASON SCREENING, EITHER CONCRETE PA, UH, CONCRETE PANELS OR BRICK.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO JUST DO THE BOARD ON BOARD WOOD FENCES ALL AROUND THREE SIDES.

OKAY? THEY'RE PROPOSING CONCEPT LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE CONCEPT ELEVATION.

THEY'RE TRYING TO COOL WITH THE MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOOK, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING SIDING AS A MATERIAL AS IN THE CONCEPT PLANS.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE SF TWO CURRENT ZONING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOT ON THE YELLOW IS SHOWING THOUGH A LOT WITH THE EXISTING HOME.

SO EVEN WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD POTENTIALLY DO THREE SINGLE FAMILY TO TOUCH HOUSES WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL VARIANCES.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS, UM, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF GRASP THE IDEA OF WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD ALLOW.

WITH THAT SAID, THE EXISTING LOT IS SURROUNDED BY PD FOR RESIDENTIAL USES ON ALL SIDES.

UH, WITH THE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHURCH, UM, ALL OTHER PARCELS ARE OCCUPIED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AS YOU HAVE SEEN THAT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THIS PROPERTY, THERE IS NO OTHER COMMERCIAL USES.

AND THE REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, FUTURE LANE USE MAP.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.

ONE IS THE REDUCTION OF THE LOT SIZES WE HAVE SEEN.

ANOTHER THING IS A SCREENING FENCE.

IT'S, I HAVE COVERED, UH, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

UM, THEY WERE JUST EXCEEDING AND THIS IS THE OVERLAY.

SO THEY NEED TO SUBMIT THE UH, THE PARKING COUNT IS THE MAXIMUM.

UM, WITH THAT, UM, STEPH IS NOT ABLE TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

BUT IN CASE THAT YOU DO WANNA CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, STEPH RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PD, WHICH IS THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL BE PLATTED.

CURRENTLY IT'S NOT A PLATTED LOT.

I THINK THE HOUSES WERE BUILT MANY YEARS AGO AND THE LOTS WAS NEVER PLATTED.

AND SECOND IS THAT STEPH UM, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST SIX FOOT MAY SNEAK SCREENING UP.

BUT THE EXISTING SUB, UH, SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, WE FEEL THAT THAT AREA REALLY NEEDS THAT MASON SCREENING.

'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE ADJACENT LOTS, BUT AT LEAST FOR THERE, WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WILL HAVE REMAINED THERE FOR A WHILE.

UH, WITH THAT, UM, ANOTHER THING IS THAT THE APPLICANT'S, UH, PLANS CONCEPT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ELEVATIONS.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT PLAN

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ASSOCIATED WITH THE PD, THIS IS KIND OF A CONCEPT, IT'S NOT FULLY DEVELOPED.

WE REALLY DIDN'T WANNA PUT THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE WHOLE DESIGN PROCESS WITHOUT THE ZONING BEING IN PLACE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY DO A SITE PLAN AND MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH THE UDC AND THE APPENDIX F STANDARD.

AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, THEY USUALLY REQUIRE SOME KIND OF LANDSCAPING AND ELEVATION MATERIALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS DON'T, DON'T LEAVE YET.

, UNLESS DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, JOHN? YES SIR.

SO COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? NOPE.

GO FORWARD.

NO, YOU'RE GOING BACK THE, YOUR REC LIST OF RECOMMENDATION.

THE ONE THAT WAS UP, UP THERE RIGHT BEFORE YOU STARTED MOVING THE SLIDES.

GO TO THE VERY GO TO THE VERY LAST RIGHT THERE.

SO THEIR REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE ON THE SCREENING FENCE? YES.

YOU ONLY WENT THAT ON THE NORTH? NOT ON ALL THREE SIDES.

SO WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING THE ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS MINIMUM WE WANT A MASONRY SCREEN TO THE NORTH.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE HAVING THE EAST ON THE WEST, LET'S SAY SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS TO THE EAST AND WEST BECAUSE THEY ARE LESS DEVELOPED.

DO YOU WANNA KEEP THAT? UM, SO THAT WAS JUST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THINKING, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S LIKELY THAT NORTH ONE WILL NEVER BE TURNED, TORN DOWN ANYTIME SOON BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES WILL PROBABLY REMAIN ANOTHER GOOD DECADE OR TWO.

BUT THERE'S A HOUSE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF IT TOO, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO INCLUDE THE EASTERN SIDE THAT YOU CAN, BUT THAT WAS JUST THE STEP RECOMMENDATION SAYING MINIMUM AND WAS CORRECT MY MEMORY.

WAS THIS AN INTERSECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH A LADY THAT HAD A BOAT THAT TALKED ABOUT THAT? NO.

THIS, THIS IS THE DIFFERENT AREA? NO.

STEPH IS CONSIDERING PUTTING A SCREEN WALL IN THAT UNIQUE LOCATION WOULD LOOK AWKWARD LONG TERM IF THIS DEVELOPS AND TRANSITIONS AND IMMEDIATE QUARTER TURNS INTO RETAIL OR WHATNOT, IT JUST WOULD NOT LOOK RIGHT.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HOME SCREENING WALL, OFFICE SCREENING WALL, YOU CAN DO THE SAME SCREENING WITH SOME VEGETATION.

COMMISSIONERS, ANYMORE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

IT JUST SEEMS A BIT ODD THAT THEY WANNA PUT THAT IN RED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT RESIDENTIAL, UNLESS IT'S GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL FRIENDLY.

MEANING WHAT TYPE OF OFFICE? I MEAN, IS IT GONNA BE LIKE A INSURANCE COMPANY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHAT, WHAT IS IT? SO WE DO NOT HAVE THAT.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A FIXED TENANT YET, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF HE HASN'T.

ALL? YES MA'AM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CHILD DAYCARE FACILITY.

AND WE REQUIRE AN SUP FOR THIS USE NO MATTER WHAT ZONING DISTRICT IT'S IN.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION IS OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.

UH, THE TENANT SPACE IS A PORTION OF THIS BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.

IT'S ABOUT A 4,100 SQUARE FOOT LEASE SPACE AND ITS ADDRESS IS EIGHT 40 GREENVIEW DRY.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, SO THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING AS A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES THERAPEUTIC AND EDUCATIONAL SERVICES TO CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.

UH, THE REASON IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THAT THE OPERATIONS INCLUDE CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE, WHICH IS WHAT IS TRIGGERING THAT CLASSIFICATION OF A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER.

UH, SO THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 7:00 AM TO 6:30 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE REQUIREMENTS AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND EN ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WILL BE MEETING.

UH, ONE OF THOSE IS AN OUTSIDE PLAY AREA THAT'S FENCED IN.

UH, THEY ARE, UH, WORKING THROUGH GETTING THE PERMIT TO PUT IN A FENCE AND WILL BE PROVIDING THAT, UH, THIS IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM IS TAKEN.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA BACK HERE.

THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT FUTURE PLAY AREA.

UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL A SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR INSTALL FIRE RATED SEPARATIONS TO REDUCE THE AREA CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE EXTERIOR WALLS OR FIRE SEPARATION TO 12,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.

AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE BUILDING CODE AND FIRE CODE AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS A RECOMMENDED CONDITION, UH, SO THAT THE APPLICANT'S CLEAR ON THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, CHECKED AND REVIEWED AT THE BUILDING PERMIT PHASE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THE APPLICANT IS GONNA BE HERE.

THEY SHOULD BE HERE, YES.

SUP CONDITIONS AND THEN OTHER APPLICABLE REGULATIONS.

SO THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW FOR ZAZA HOOKAH LOUNGE AND THE REVIEWS OF ANY SUVS.

UH, WE TAKE THEM BEFORE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE

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AND THEN BASED ON THAT REVIEW, WE ARE RECOMMENDING MODIFICATION, RENEWAL OR REVOCATION, UH, BASED ON THAT.

UH, SO THE SUP 1125 A IS FOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES, WHICH AUTHORIZES A HOOKAH LOUNGE.

UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT CAME THROUGH AND WAS RENEWED FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS.

AND SO THIS IS, UH, THE END OF THAT SIX MONTHS.

AND STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE OPERATIONS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE SUP CONDITIONS AND ALL OTHER RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO THERE'S NO VIOLATIONS TO REPORT TONIGHT.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A RENEWAL OF THIS SEP FOR ONE YEAR.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.

UH, NO, NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

SO THE ITEM NUMBER 15 AND THE LAST NIGHT ITEM FOR TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FOR 1905 GALVESTON STREET.

SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF GALVESTON STREET IN, UM, CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED AS PART OF THE PD 1 46, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 19, UM, 84.

UM, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY SIX.

UM, THIS ACTUALLY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, FUTURE LINE USE MAP, WHICH CAUSES THIS AREA IS LOADED INTO THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THERE IS SOME EVIDENCES OF OTHER PROPERTIES WHO ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE SIMILAR REQUEST OF ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE IN THIS AREA, GENERALLY THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CURRENTLY EXISTING.

SO THE, SINCE THE CURRENT PD DOES NOT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THEY, UH, THE, THE KIND OF A DARK YELLOW IN THE CENTER IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THE SAME ZONING AS THEIR NEIGHBOR SO THEY CAN BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

UM, THIS IS A LOT FROM THE STREET.

SO, UM, THIS IS KIND OF COMMUNICATE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY TO TOUCH HOME THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS FROM THE FRONT.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND THE DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THOSE SHARING INFORMATION GIVE US PERTINENT POINTS SO WE ALL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, THAT BEING SAID, UM, NOTHING ELSE.

THIS CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING SESSION AND WE WILL ADJOURN UNTIL SIX.

WELL, IT'S, ARE WE GONNA KEEP IT'S THREE.

GOT THREE MINUTES TO START AT SIX 30.

WELCOME TO THE STAFF.

[Call to Order]

HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 12TH, 2023.

I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:31 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.

ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.

INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.

THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA.

ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL CONDUCT NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE CHERYL SMITH.

QUENTIN PETE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR JULIA PEREZ AND QUENTIN PETE.

AND NOW WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER ANNA COKA COKA.

AND THEN I WILL GIVE THE, I'LL LEAD THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TOGETHER THIS EVENING.

WE INVITE YOU TO PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING, EVEN IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, GIVE US UNITY OF SPIRIT.

HELP US EACH TO LISTEN POLITELY AS OTHERS SHARE THEIR POINTS OF VIEW.

HELP US TO WORK AS A UNIFIED TEAM IN COMBINING IDEAS FOR A GREAT OUTCOME.

LORD, WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM AS WE MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS IN THIS MEETING.

HELP US TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN BE GATHERED.

MAY

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HELP US TO BE INNOVATIVE AS WE BRAINSTORM SOLUTIONS.

HELP US TO WISELY EVALUATE ALL OPTIONS CONSIDERING THE PROS AND CONS.

HELP US TO BE UNIFIED IN MAKING THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS AND TO EFFECTIVELY CARRY THEM OUT.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

I FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I LEDGE ALLEGIANCE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

STAFF WILL PRESENT, UH, FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.

STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS? NO.

MADAM CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THE NEXT MATTER FOR

[PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSIDER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 22ND, 2023 P AND Z MEETING, AND ITEMS TWO THROUGH SEVEN ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA BY A COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

NEXT ITEM,

[Items 8 & 9 ]

GOOD EVENING MEASURES.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS I'LL BE PRESENTING AT A SINGLE TIME THAT YOU CAN MAKE A SINGLE MOTION ON THEM.

AND THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE SECOND IS THE ZONING CHANGE.

YOU CAN SEE THE REQUEST LOCATION OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THIS LOCATION FROM MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE, UH, ACREAGE IS ABOUT 11.9 ACRES AND THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTIES ARE, UH, COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND THEN COMMERCIAL.

SO THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE THESE PROPERTIES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THAT IS TRIGGERING THIS REQUEST TO AMEND THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.

ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE MAP OF THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.

UM, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED FOR MIXED USE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN BLUE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PORTION IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN RED.

STAFF'S UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

STAFF NOTES THOUGH THAT A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED WITH EXISTING STRUCTURES AND USES THAT ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO THE SECOND ELEMENT, UH, RELATED TO THIS LOCATION IS THE ZONING CHANGE.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING FOR THE AREA.

THERE IS, UH, A PORTION OF THE SITE WHICH IS, UH, DEVELOPED FOR STRIPER ZONE, WHICH IS AN EXISTING PAVEMENT STRIPING BUSINESS.

IT CURRENTLY OPERATES AT THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED, AND THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE USE AT THIS LOCATION OR ANY ADDITIONS TO THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.

UH, THE SECOND PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY ZONE COMMERCIAL.

SO THIS IS A PHOTO ACROSS THE STREET FROM GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

YOU CAN SEE THE UH, UH, BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND BUILDING TO THE WEST OF THAT.

SO THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, UM, IS REALLY INITIATED BY THE APPLICANT WANTING TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY, UH, AND A A WIDER VARIETY OF USES THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

WHEN MARKETING FUTURE TENANTS, UH, THEY HAVE NOT, UH, IDENTIFIED ANY FUTURE TENANTS AT

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THIS TIME, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS TO HELP IT WITH THEIR MARKETING OF IT.

UH, SO THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL NOT CHANGE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS.

AGAIN, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT WILL CHANGE, UH, SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED.

STAFF'S UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP STAFF DOES NOTE THAT A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH EXISTING STRUCTURES AND USES THAT ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND AS A NOTE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NOT THE PROPERTY ZONING, IT'S THE RECOMMENDED FUTURE LAND USE FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PER THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FOR, FOR DCO SAVANNAH, I I I WANNA GO BACK TO THAT QUESTION.

I WAS ASKED IN THE PRE-MEETING.

WE GO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEY CAN DO STUFF BY RIGHT? AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT ZONING.

CORRECT.

IF WE CHANGE IT, WILL ANY OF THAT ALLOW THEM TO DO STUFF OUTSIDE OF THAT STRUCTURE? IF WE GO TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? SO ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE A CONTRACTOR SHOP WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

CURRENTLY IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT IT IS ALLOWED IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

SO LIKE TO STORE STUFF OUTSIDE TO STORE IF, IF YOU ARE, ARE GOING TO A SITE AND YOU HAVE HEAVY THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE WITH YOU, THAT COULD BE STORED AT THIS SITE, UH, BY RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER MED? I DO.

SO, UM, FROM THE GRAPHIC RIGHT THERE, THE IMAGE, THOSE ARE ALL, THOSE AREN'T GARAGE DOORS THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THAT PHOTO.

IT'S STOREFRONT WINDOWS.

THOSE ARE STOREFRONT WINDOWS.

ACCESS WOULD BE BEHIND, SO AWAY FROM RIGHT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

SO THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE, ARE KIND OF DESIGNED THE SAME WITH THE STOREFRONT WINDOWS FACING OUTWARDS, AND THEN THE KIND OF THE BACK OF HOUSE AREA FOCUSED INWARDS TO THE SIDE.

SO IT'S HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC EYE FOR THE MOST PART? CORRECT.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IF THEY GO TO, TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF WHAT THEY PUT THERE.

SO IT, I MEAN, IT COULD BE TWO DIFFERENT OPPOSING BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL, UH, IS I GUESS I'M, I JUST DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU REALLY WANT THE, THE BUILDINGS TO BE OCCUPIED, BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN THERE, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A CORRECT.

AND, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS LIKE OUTSIDE STORAGE THAT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

SO IT'S NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL.

THE, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT DOES ALLOW MORE USES AND USES THAT ARE MORE INTENSE THAN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

SO IT'S NOT THE WILD WILD WEST ? NO.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S, UM, OKAY.

WE, WE, WE IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, WE DO THE APPLICANT.

THEN WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.

I'M ASSUMING PLEASE COME UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS ANGELA CHAKA, 1 0 1 NORTHWEST EIGHTH STREET, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT REAL QUICK IS THE BUILDING.

THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS THAT THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT DURING AND PRIOR, UH, COVID.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

THE DEMAND HAS CHANGED.

AND SINCE THIS IS AT LEAST BUILT SPEC BUILDING, UM, WE HAD TO CHANGE THE ZONING BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY REALLY DEMAND FOR ANY OFFICE SPACE AT ALL.

AND THE STRIP ZONE FAMILY IS ACTUALLY THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING.

SO THEY HAVE A BIG, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF, UH, VESTED INTO THIS, UH, PROPERTY AND THEY WANTED TO DO WELL.

AND THE ONE COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE WALL, WALL WEST, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENT, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA BE IN PARALLEL WITH WHAT THEY HAVE THERE NOW.

SO COULD YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF THAT, SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING OF THAT? YEAH.

SO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IT LISTED WITH, UH, MERCER AND COMPANY.

AND THE, THE CONSISTENCY THAT WE'RE GETTING IS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A CLASS TENANTS.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER WERE LIKE, WHO ARE THEY GONNA HAVE AND WHAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED? ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, EVEN IF YOU'RE GOING, EVEN IF YOU'RE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, CERTAIN THINGS REQUIRE AN SUP REGARDLESS.

SO IF THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE LI EVEN THOUGH IT'S, UM, IT'S ZONED FOR IT, THEY STOP TO GET AN SUP.

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS.

SO WE'RE IN THE STAGE WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO BE COMPLETED BY AUGUST.

THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE TILL WALL BUILDINGS, THEY'RE A CLASS BUILDINGS.

THE FRONT FACADE LOOKS JUST LIKE AN OFFICE.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S DONE A CLASS.

WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, PER SE ANY VARIANCES AS FAR AS PARKING.

ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, ONE IS ABOUT 350 FOOT LONG.

THE ONE IN THE FRONT AND THE ONE IN THE BACK IS 325 FOOT LONG.

AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE CREATED A DRIVE LANE.

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SO LIKE IF A TRUCK NEEDED TO DROP SOMETHING OFF, IT DOESN'T HAVE, ONE THING THAT WASN'T NOTED WAS THAT THERE ARE NO DOCK HIGH DOORS AND THAT THERE ISN'T ANY TRUCK PARKING SPACES FOR TRUCK AND TRAILERS.

SO IT'D BE LIKE A TRUCK WOULD COME DROP OFF AND LEAVE.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO YOU GUYS AND GIVES A LOT OF CITY HEARTBURN.

RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 40 TRUCK AND TRAILERS PARKED OUT HERE CAUSING AN ISSUE.

IT'S AN EYESORE.

THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

IT'S ON A GREAT LOCATION.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT GRAND PRAIRIE NEEDED IN THAT AREA.

SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW THEY BRING UP THE HOSPITAL, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING BUILT NOW.

THEY'VE SUNK A TON OF CASH INTO IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT YOU CAN'T SEE, UH, ON THE SURFACE.

THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION PONDS WORKING WITH, UM, ENGINEERING ON HOW TO GET THESE, UH, THINGS DONE.

YOU KNOW? SO I WISH I WAS, YOU KNOW, DOING A BIG SUBDIVISION OR SOMETHING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT, I'M DOING SOMETHING THAT MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, IT'S A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE AND I THINK THAT THEY HIT IT ON THE MARK AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS COULD SEE THAT AS WELL.

SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ONE COMMENT.

SO, UM, IS STRIP ZONE GONNA USE ANY OF THE TWO BUILDINGS? JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, STRATO ZONE'S INTENT IN THE BEGINNING, PRE COVID WAS TO OCCUPY THE SMALLER BUILDING.

I THINK THE WHOLE THING TO IT WAS LIKE ANOTHER BRANCH OF THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS.

'CAUSE THEY ARE GROWING.

AND ONE THING TO NOTE, THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1957, SO THEY'RE A STAPLE OF GRAND PRAIRIE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND MY THING IS, I THINK THEY GET WHAT, WHAT GRAND PRAIRIE ONCE, AND THEY FOLLOWED THAT VISION, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY WHEN THEY WENT WITH THIS BUILDING, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY VARIANCES.

YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WORK WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, DOING THE TIL WALL.

THEY COULD HAVE EASILY HAD ASKED FOR OTHER VARIANCES AS WELL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE SERGEANT FAMILY WANTED AN A CLASS PRODUCT BECAUSE THEY WANT AN A CLASS TENANT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE.

SO, I AGREE.

AND I WAS GONNA, MY COMMENT WAS GONNA BE THAT IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT NEARBY, NOT OWNED BY STRIPE ZONE, BUT OTHER, THAT THIS IS FANTASTIC AND BEAUTIFUL AND REALLY IS AN IMPROVEMENT ON GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO PRESENT IT.

'CAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF I'VE BEEN PRESENTING AND I'VE EVEN BUILT MYSELF, I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I HAVE GRAY HAIR.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST HOPE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FLUME DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR, FOR COMMER.

UM, WHAT IS IT? UH, FOR COMMERCIAL? I THINK THE LI WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, I THINK IS COMMERCIAL.

I THINK WHAT'S IN WITH WITHIN REASON AND MM-HMM .

GIVEN ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

AND UNLESS THE CITY WOULD LIKE A VACANT BUILDING, AND THEN IT TURNED INTO, YOU KNOW, JUST A VACANT BUILDING, THEN COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, THE ONLY SPEAKER CARD WE HAVE IS FROM ANGELO, UH, CHAKA.

THE, THE APPLICANT.

UM, THIS IS, UM, COMMISSIONER FICO'S AREA.

YEAH, I, AND I'M GENERALLY IN, IN FAVOR OF IT.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT, TO YOUR POINT, IMPROVEMENT ON GR GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY IS WELCOME THERE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, DETRACT FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

MM-HMM.

BUT I THINK THEY BUILT A BUILDING THAT GOT AFFECTED BY COVID AND NOW THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THAT WORKS.

I DO HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION.

IF WE DID THIS, DO WE HAVE TO DO TWO SEPARATE VOTES, EIGHT AND NINE? OR CAN THEY BE TOGETHER? I, I, I THINK THEY CAN BE TOGETHER AGAIN.

I, I'M, THIS IS MY, UH, FIRST MONTH HERE AND PROCEDURALLY, SO, UH, PROCEDURALLY I THINK WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T, I, I LEGALLY I THINK YOU'RE FINE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY.

, YOU'RE THE BOSS, MATT .

SO, UH, MADAM CHAIR, IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE AND NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, APPROVE BOTH REQUESTS.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT AND NINE, AND IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HELLO.

SO AGAIN, BACK AGAIN WITH

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THE SUP SITE PLAN FOR GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY COMMONS.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A RETAIL, TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS ALONG WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE DRIVE THROUGH'S GONNA BE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION.

THAT ABUTS WALGREENS RIGHT THERE, THIS SOUTHERN PORTION HERE.

I DID HEAR FROM MARY GARZA, THE PRI THE PIT PRESIDENT.

THEY HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE APPLICANTS, BY THE WAY.

UM, BUT SHE'S UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

SO, SO IT IS ZONE PD 30 WITH THE BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL.

IT IS WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.

SO IT DOES HAVE TO MEET OUR APPENDIX F STANDARDS.

SO HERE THE SITE PLAN, WE CAN SEE BOTH BUILDINGS ARE, UM, 800, 8,851 SQUARE FEET WITH ABOUT 1700, 1700 SQUARE FEET FOR THE DRIVE-THRU.

AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE A SUBWAY.

UM, SO THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, OUR SETBACKS, OUR HIGH, OUR, UH, FLORIDA AREA

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RATIO.

THEY'RE MEETING OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, INCLUDING THAT DRIVE-THRU QUEUE OF SIX SPACES.

AGAIN, THEY'RE MEETING OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THAT SIX FOOT RESIDENTIAL MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO THE SOUTH.

THAT'S ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THESE ARE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES, ONE OF THEM FOR GLAZING.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM THE 50% GLAZING OF THE AREA OF ALPHA SAWS TO ALLOW FOR 37%.

AND AGAIN, THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THIS SOUTHERN PORTION, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT TWO FEET FOR A HUNDRED FEET.

AND THEN IT'LL EVENTUALLY WILL TAPER TO 15 FEET.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING THAT DRIVEWAY TO, UH, MATCH UP WITH THE EXISTING MEDIAN BREAK IN SOUTH GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA KNOW, AND MARY ALSO JUST NOTED HER OPPOSITION.

SO WE HAVE THREE OPPOSITION LETTERS OFFICIALLY AND STAFF'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN YOU, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REMIND ME THE GLAZING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? SO THOSE ARE THE WINDOWS.

AND SO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT 50% OF GLAZING FOR ALL TOTAL FACADES HAS TO BE 50%.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE.

AND A GOOD, A GOOD REASON IS BECAUSE THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING'S RIGHT HERE, SORRY, I RICH, USED THE, UH, ARROW RIGHT HERE THAT'S GOING TO FACE THAT VACANT AREA.

THEY'RE NOT PUTTING ANY GLAZING BACK THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BRINGING THAT PERCENTAGE DOWN.

ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE? I BELIEVE SO.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS? MADAM CHAIR? WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.

UH, ONE I BELIEVE MIGHT BE FROM THE APPLICANT T CRAIG CARNEY.

UH, HE PUT THAT HE COULD SPEAK IF NEEDED AND WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

UH, AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM DANA BALDRIDGE WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OPPOSITION? WE ASK, WE DOING ONE AT A TIME FIRST.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

UH, YES.

RASHAD, THAT WAS, OH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, SO WE DON'T, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

I THINK SUBWAY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, IN MY OPINION.

UM, THE IN OPPOSITION, UH, THE NAME, UH, CAN YOU HAVE HIM COME UP, CALL THEIR NAME PLEASE.

IT IS DANA BALDRIDGE.

HELLO MA'AM.

HOW ARE YOU, MS. BALDRIDGE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

UM, DANA BALDRIDGE AT 41 0 6 BRITON COURT.

UM, AND WHICH MORE NEIGHBORS COULD HAVE COME? EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO, IT WAS NOT FOR HAVING A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT THERE.

UM, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE.

UM, I'M RIGHT UP THERE CLOSE TO WHERE IT WOULD BE BUILT.

UM, AND I, MY NEIGHBORS, THE TWO THAT I WAS REALLY HOPING COULD MAKE IT BOTH WORK TONIGHT, THEIR HOMES WOULD BACK UP TO THIS.

THEY DON'T WANNA BE HEARING, YOU KNOW, MAY I TAKE YOUR ORDER, PLEASE, ALL DAY OR NIGHT LONG.

THE EXHAUST FROM CARS IDLING AND A AND A DRIVE THROUGH LINE, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH NOISE.

AND LIKE I SAID, JUST ALL THE EXTRA TRAFFIC, PEOPLE PULLING IN AND OUT THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW LATE IT'S GONNA BE.

LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UM, IT'S JUST GONNA DRASTICALLY AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO SIT ON THEIR PATIO AT NIGHT OR WHATEVER, AND THEY DON'T WANNA BE HEARING THAT.

OR LIKE I SAID, SMELLING THE EXHAUST FROM CARS IDLING, NOT TOO FAR FROM THEIR BACK FENCE, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S BEEN OUR BIG CONCERN.

UM, AND UM, WE'VE GOT, I COUNTED LIKE 11 FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS WITHIN A MALL OF THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AROUND THERE.

WE DON'T NEED MORE.

I MEAN, I KNOW, I'M GUESSING IT'S GONNA TAKE OVER FROM THE OTHER SUBWAY.

THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON GREAT SOUTHWEST, THERE'S A SUBWAY RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT'S JUST REPLACING THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S LIKE 11 THAT I COUNTED WITHIN A MILE OR LESS, YOU KNOW.

UM, AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR MORE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MEAN, IT'S TAKING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF IT, I THINK.

I THINK THERE'S BETTER USE WE COULD USE.

AND WE WERE ALSO CURIOUS WHAT WAS GOING IN THE OTHER BUILDINGS .

WE DIDN'T, I MEAN, WE CAN ASK, WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP.

DO WE HAVE ANY COME BACK UP THE APPLICANT? WHAT'S ASK AFTER? YES.

WHEN, WHEN YOU FINISH, WE'LL HAVE HIM COME BACK UP.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS OUR MAIN CONCERN.

JUST THE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING UP PULLING OUT THERE.

'CAUSE THAT GREAT SOUTHWEST JUST KIND OF CURVED THERE.

AND DEPENDING HOW CLOSE THE CUT IN, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE DRIVE WAS GONNA BE INTO THE BUSINESS.

I COULDN'T REALLY TELL, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE NORTHBOUND ON GREAT SOUTHWEST WOULD BE ABLE TO REALLY SEE VERY WELL AS THEY'RE HEADING NORTH THAT PEOPLE ARE PULLING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOO MANY DRIVES THERE.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

I JUST HAD A COMMENT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, THEY'VE, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT HEARING CARS IN THE ORDER SIGN AND ALL THAT STUFF.

YEAH, THEY DID.

LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE PUTTING IT ON THE NORTH, THE FURTHEST POINT FROM ANY HOMES.

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THAT'S ONE GOOD THING.

UM, AND, AND THIS PROPERTY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS ZONED FOR WHAT IT'S USED FOR, IF THEY JUST HAVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 'CAUSE OF THE DRIVE THROUGH, WHICH I KNOW IS A COMPLAINT OF YOURS.

BUT, UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT.

THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A THREE OR FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

PEERING DOWN YEAH.

INTO YOUR YARD.

SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER POSITIVE OF, OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

UH, COMMISSIONER COKA, UH, WERE OTHER NEIGHBORS NOTIFIED? I KNOW THE OCALA SHEFFIELD VILLAGE.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I'M SORRY THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT ABLE, THE GOOD PRESIDENT HAD TO EMAIL ME, BUT WE ARE REQUIRED FOR SUVS TO SEND OUT NOTICES 300 SQUARE FEET FROM THE, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY.

WELL, SO YEAH.

WE DIDN'T GET TONIGHT'S NOTICE, WHICH I, I ACTUALLY GOT YOUR HUSBAND'S, UM, YEAH, LINK.

AND WE, AND WE HAD YOU ON THE LIST.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DIDN'T GET TO YOU.

SO, BUT WE DID SEND THEM OUT UNFORTUNATELY.

I'M SORRY, I MISSED Y'ALL.

AND WHAT DID THE PIT PRESIDENT, UH, DID SHE SAY SUPPORT MARY? NO, SHE'S IN OPPOSITION.

MARY EMAILED ME.

SHE'S IN OPPOSITION.

SHE'S IN OPPOSITION AS WELL.

AND SHE REPRESENTS OCALA SHEFFIELD VILLAGE, WHICH IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORS.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

ONE MORE, ONE MORE QUESTION NOW.

SO MS. BALDRIDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.

WE DON'T GET ENOUGH CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT, BUT THIS LAND IS OWNED COMMERCIAL.

YEAH, I KNOW.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GO THERE? ? YOU MEAN IF I HAD A CHOICE? WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT OH, YEAH, YEAH.

I KNOW.

WITH DEPARTMENTS, YEAH.

EVERYTHING.

THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS.

THEY PUT THE DRIVE THROUGH ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.

THEIR VARIANCES ARE VERY MINOR.

WELL, I MEANT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY OFFICES, ANYTHING, AND I KNOW OFFICES AREN'T A BIG THING ANYMORE.

, BUT, YOU KNOW, DAYCARE, , WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT I WENT, OH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD THERE.

BUT ANYWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WEEKENDS, NIGHTS HOPEFULLY IS NOT GONNA HAVE SOUND BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FAST FOOD PLACES PEOPLE GO THERE LATE AT NIGHT, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

AND LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WANNA HAVE A NICE, SOME QUIET MM-HMM .

AND BE ABLE TO RELAX IF IT'S IN THEIR YARD, I MEAN BACKYARD OR ANYTHING.

SO COMMISSIONER MM-HMM .

AND ONE MORE COMMENT, UM, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THERE, THEY'RE BUILDING A AUTO ZONE.

NEXT TO THE CAR WASH.

AND, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, UM, 'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT ANOTHER SUBWAY IS LOCATED VERY NEAR ALREADY IN GREAT SOUTHWEST.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE LIKE SALAD OR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, UH, OFFERING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEALTHIER, UH, FOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I MEAN, THE ONLY OTHER THING IF THEY DID SOME BIG SOUND BARRIER WALL OR SOMETHING DOWN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LITERALLY GONNA BE UP AGAINST IN THOSE BUSINESSES AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH HEARING THE DUMPSTER AT 4:00 AM BEING BANGED OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS THAT AT 4:00 AM SO YES.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, WHAT, UH, I GUESS, UH, FOR, UH, SAVANNAH, CAN WE REQUIRE A TALLER WALL, LIKE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONARY WALL? DO WE HAVE TO STAY WITH SIX? YOU CAN MAKE THAT A RECOMMENDED CONDITION.

THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD POINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THE APPLICANT.

CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO AND, AND WHY THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT, UH, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY MEETINGS WITH ANY OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE AREA? YEAH, MY NAME'S, UH, CRAIG CARNEY WITH CARNEY ENGINEERING ADDRESS 54 65 LEGACY DRIVE, SUITE SIX 50 IN, UH, PLANO.

SO, UH, ASK ME THAT AGAIN, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

UH, WE'RE WONDERING, UH, WHY THERE WERE NO, UH, MEETINGS, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU KNOW, I, I NOT BEING THE OWNER DON'T HAVE A, A SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THAT.

I, I THINK THAT BECAUSE THE DRIVE THROUGH IS IN FACT LOCATED ON THE FURTHEST, YOU KNOW, POINT ON THE PROPERTY NORTH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE COULD PUT IT TO MAKE IT MINIMAL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEIGHBORS.

NOW, IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE, UH, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A WALL SEPARATING AND THE WALL IS GONNA BE, UH, UH, THE, THE PIT.

THERE'S A PIT OVER THERE, I BELIEVE.

SO IT HAS TO BE COMPARABLE TO THAT.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE SIZE OF THE WALL IS TO THE PIT? WHAT? I WAS JUST WONDERING THAT COMMENT THAT, UH, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF, OF THE, THE BUFFER WALL THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE.

'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

I I, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, IF IT'S SIX OR EIGHT.

SAVANNAH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS? I THINK A COMMISSIONER COLEMAN ASKED YOU THAT.

SO THE REQUIREMENT IS SIX FEET A MINIMUM.

WOULD THE A WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO DO THAT? WELL, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AN ADDED EXPENSE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO ASK FOR EIGHT.

WOULD

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I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT THE, UH, THE, THE GAIN, THE BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, IS IN LINE WITH THE EXPENSE.

BUT WE CERTAINLY WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR SURE.

WELL, YOU WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

AND IN ORDER FOR US TO CONSIDER, UH, APPROVING THIS, WE, WE NEED SOME BUY-IN FOR OUR, UH, TAXPAYERS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

SO CLOSE TO IT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT'S COMPROMISE.

YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA TRY TO MEET PEOPLE HALFWAY.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ACCOMMODATING EVERYONE AS BEST WE CAN.

UNDERSTOOD.

WHO'S DISTRICT FOUR? THIS IS MY DISTRICT .

THIS IS DISTRICT FOUR.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS HERE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY IN, ON DISTRICT FOUR.

I, UH, IN OVERALL, I, I AGREE THAT THE SUBWAY SHOULD BE THERE, BUT I THINK YOU COULD BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME COMPROMISE AND BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE SURE.

THE RESIDENTS THAT THE WALL WILL HIGH ENOUGH TO, TO, SO YOU WON'T HEAR THE SOUND SO MUCH OF THAT SOUND OF THE NOISE.

AND THEN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HOURS ARE GONNA BE? YOU KNOW, DANIEL, DO YOU REMEMBER? NO, I, I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT TIME DO WE HAVE THAT IN THE NARRATIVE? LARGE NARRATIVE? I HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

WELL, WELL AT THIS POINT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION AT THIS POINT.

WOULD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE TABLE THIS TO GET HIM? HAVE, ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH GOING FORWARD WITH IT? OKAY.

UP OR DOWN VOTE.

OR DOWN VOTE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, ARE WE MODIFYING THE HEIGHT OF THE VENT FENCE? YES.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE MOTION? YES.

AND, AND DID WE FIND OUT WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THE OTHER BUILDING? WHAT, WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TENANTS YET.

THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SIGNED.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

I, I, I WOULD, I'M, I'M KIND OF PLEADING TO THE COMMISSION, LIKE THE PORTION OF FENCE THAT'S AFFECTED OR IS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OF THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS OR THIS PROPERTY.

I MEAN, IT IS NEGLIGIBLE IN COMPARISON TO THE FULL LENGTH THAT GOES BACK ALONG O KALO AND ALL THIS.

UM, TO REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL REALLY TALL FENCE JUST IN THIS SECTION AFTER THE FIRST 100 FEET, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY LOOK ODD.

ONE, TWO, THE, THE, I MEAN, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE WITH SUBWAY, BUT I DON'T SEE IT AS A, LIKE, IT'S USUALLY A WALK-IN SITUATION.

SO I FIND THAT IT'S UNUSUAL AND PROBABLY A VERY NEW THING THAT A SUBWAY WOULD HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH.

SO I, AND IT'S FACING THE OTHER DIRECTION.

I, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT SOUTH PART.

I, I, I ENTERTAINED SOME DISCUSSION.

I'M JUST, WELL, I, I, I KNOW FOR MYSELF, I LIKE DRIVE THROUGH BECAUSE I'M, I'M LAZY.

I JUST WANNA GO IN AND OUT.

I DON'T REALLY WANNA GET OUT OF MY CAR.

I REALLY DON'T.

AND ESPECIALLY IF THE WEATHER'S BAD.

SO I THINK IT HAS SOME PLUSES TO THAT AS WELL.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANT BUSINESSES TO COME TO GRAND PRAIRIE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.

AND ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE THE EXISTING SUBWAY IS, IS GONNA CLOSE DOWN AND MOVE TO THIS LOCATION.

THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

UH, WHICH, SO WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OF THAT OTHER LOCATION? I, I'M NOT SURE.

ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

ARE ARE THERE ANY CARS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MUCH.

NO, MADAM CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

CAN THEY HEAR YOU? SEEM LIKE I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YOU COULDN'T HEAR ME? NOTHING.

, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, I, UH, CLOSE THE, UH, UH, ON AND APPROVE ITEM 10 SUP 23 0 4 0 0 1 4, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN.

BUT, UH, PUT IN THERE THAT, UH, REQUIRE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE INSTEAD OF A SIX FOOT FENCE.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 10 BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY MYSELF.

COMMISSIONER SMITH.

ALL IN FAVOR? I MEAN, EXCUSE ME.

CAN WE ADD SOME DISCUSSION? CAN I, YES.

WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THAT VOTE.

JUST A MOMENT.

KNOW HOW LONG A SECTION THAT IS A FENCE? DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW? I THINK IT'S ABOUT 200 TO 300 FEET.

HOW, UM, DO WE

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TWO OR 300 FEET? YEAH.

THANKS.

SO IN THE DISCUSSION, WHAT CAN, AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU, YOU EXPLAINED BEFORE, WHAT'S YOUR OB OBJECTION TO THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE? I JUST, I FEEL LIKE IT'S UNNECESSARY.

THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN FENCES ON THEIR BACKYARDS AND THE, THE NOISE PORTION IS GONNA BE, UM, FURTHEST AWAY FROM THE FENCES AND WHATEVER COMES BEHIND, WE'LL HOPE THAT THEY NEED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OR SOMETHING.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE THAT 200 FEET OF FENCE AT EIGHT FEET TALL IS JUST GONNA BE STANDING OUT THERE FLAPPING IN THE WIND BY ITSELF.

UNLESS THERE'S A NEED FOR IT TO COME BEFORE US WHEN THEY START DEVELOPING FURTHER TO THE EAST, I THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S USEFUL.

I'D LIKE TO GET, UH, YOUR INPUT ON THAT, UH, SAVANNAH OR, OR RASHTI, THE ONE SHE IS, SHE IS CORRECT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIMING ON THE, A BUDDING DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST.

SO THAT WALL WILL BE THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

OR COULD BE, THIS MAY BE DEVELOPED IMMEDIATELY AND WE, AT THAT TIME, WE CAN REQUEST THAT IT MATCH.

UM, BUT NOW, FOR NOW, FOR RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GONNA BE A EIGHT FOOT WALL, AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THAT WILL HAVE THE WOOD FENCE SYSTEM REMAINING.

SO IS THE, IS IT AN AESTHETIC CONCERN THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS EIGHT FOOT FENCE SURROUNDED BY A BUNCH OF SIX FOOT FENCES? I MEAN, PART OF IT IS, PART OF IT I FEEL LIKE IS A UNNECESSARY EXPENSE BY THE DEVELOPER.

SO BOTH, NO, I THINK, I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS DOING SIX FOOT, ISN'T IT SIX FOOT? IS IT SIX FOOT? YES.

ADDING AN ADDITIONAL ADDING.

SO WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING ADDING THE ADDITIONAL JUST SO FOR THE, I THOUGHT FOR THE SOUND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE SOUND EFFECTS.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE EIGHT FOOT WAS WOULD, WOULD BE FOUR, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL TO THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS IS WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.

BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF HOW THAT LOOKS.

I I DON'T HAVE A VISUAL ON THAT.

I MEAN, GOING FROM SIX TO EIGHT, UM, VISUALLY, IS IT GONNA BLOCK A LOT? LIKELY NOT.

BUT IT'S P Z'S RECOMMENDATION, KEEP IN MIND IT'S GONNA GO TO P UH, COUNCIL.

SO WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, WE CAN LIBERATE THAT MORE IN DETAIL.

IF THERE'S CONCERNS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS TO COUNSEL ABOUT THE WALL, WE CAN DEFINITELY PASS THOSE ALONG.

UM, BUT IT'S Y'ALL'S, Y'ALL'S Y'ALL'S WISH.

COMMISSIONER COLE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M, I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING IT AT SIX IF NEED BE.

AND THEN THEY CAN TALK.

'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DECIDE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ANYWAY.

WITH VOTING IT AT EIGHT AND THEN THEY CAN LOWER TO SIX IF THEY WANT TO.

IF THE ONLY REASON I THOUGHT ABOUT EIGHT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOUR AESTHETIC CONCERNS AREN'T REQUIRED, BUT YOU DID GET SOME OPPOSITION, INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE MM-HMM .

SO YEAH.

THAT, THAT I'M TRYING TO BE SOMEWHAT COGNIZANT OF.

AND I, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT CAME AND SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AND THE PRESIDENT SPOKE AGAINST IT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET SOME, I'M TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR AESTHETIC POINT ABOUT A VERSUS SIX COMMISSIONER FEDCO.

I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE REASON I WAS FOLLOWING UP ON THAT TO, UH, TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE ACCOMMODATE THE TAXPAYERS, THE RESIDENTS COMMISSIONER COCA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE, UM, WITH THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE IT TO EIGHT VERSUS A SIX.

UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, I STILL WANNA VOTE AGAINST IT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A SIX OR AN EIGHT FOOT.

SO I DON'T WANNA VOTE NO ON THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MAKE THE WALL TALLER.

I COMPLETELY JUST WANNA VOTE.

NO.

OH YEAH.

YOU, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO VOTE ANY WAY YOU CHOOSE.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT UNDERSTOOD THAT I'M NOT GOING NO.

ON THE WALL SIZE, I'M VOTING NO ON THE WELL, YOU, IT'S, IT'S A ONE VOTE, CORRECT? YEAH, THERE'S A STILL A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

Y'ALL HAVE, Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING THAT MOTION RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

SO YOU, YOU EITHER SEE THEY'RE UP OR DOWN VOTE.

YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR A PART OF IT.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE NOAM CHAIR A A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

UH, THE MOTION WAS, UH, WITH THE CONDITION OF THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE, DID THAT MOTION ALSO INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF? YES.

ARE WE GONNA START AGAIN TO, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? I DID.

WE DID.

WE SHE NEED TO CHANGE OUR DISCUSSION.

ARE ARE WE GOOD ON OUR LINGO? WE'RE READY TO VOTE.

YOU'RE READY TO VOTE? OKAY, WE'RE READY TO VOTE.

WE'RE READY TO VOTE.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 10 BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY MYSELF.

COMMISSIONER SMITH.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE

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YOUR HAND.

MOTION, UH, IS 3 4, 5, 6 PASSES.

SIX, I MEAN THERE'S SIX FOR, UH, APPROVING ALL THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

DID YOU, WAS IT JUST ONE? OKAY.

ONE.

SO THE MOTION PASSES.

UH, SIX TO ONE.

BY RESIDENTIAL USES ON ALL SIDES.

GOOD

[Items 11 & 12]

EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ITEM 11 AND ITEM 12.

UM, A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST IN 1926 MAYFIELD ROAD TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR OFFICE USE AND ON THE ACCOMPANYING, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

SO FIRST ITEM THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IS THE ITEM NUMBER 11 CPA 23 0 5 0 0 0 7.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE IN THIS AREA WHERE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATE AS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO ACCOMMODATE HIS REQUEST FOR A PD FOR AN OFFICE USE.

THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL NEED TO BE AMENDED AS THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE IN RETAIL.

I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS UM, RED CIRCLE AROUND THE PROPERTY REPRESENTS THE A HUNDRED FOOT.

UM, AS YOU CAN NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMERCIAL LEASE ZONED PROPERTIES WITHIN A, UH, 0.2 MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S THE EASTERN HALF OF THIS SF TWO, WHICH IS THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS, UM, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MOON AMENDMENT.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY PD THAT HAS THE BASE ZONING OF, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM THE AREA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHURCH, UM, ALL THE PARCEL SURROUNDING IT ARE ALREADY OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES.

SO THE STAFF IS NOT UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS THE OFFICE USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND I'LL GO OVER THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.

SO THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST IS FOR THIS PARCEL AS SHOWN WITH THE VACANT AREA AND, AND UM, OLD RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON IT.

IT IS CURRENTLY ZONE SF TWO AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TWO MULTI-TENANT OFFICE BUILDINGS AND IS REQUESTING A PD FOR OFFICE USE.

I HAVE COVERED THIS, UM, EXISTING ZONING SLOT.

GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REQUESTED ZONING WOULD BE, UM, A BASIS ZONING OF AN OFFICE TO USE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE REST.

UH, REST OF THE LANE USES AROUND IT, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY.

CURRENTLY THEY'RE MEETING THE DENSITY INDIVIDUAL REQUIREMENT WITHIN AN EXCEPTION OF THE LOT AREA.

IT'S SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE FOR AN OFFICE, UH, OFFICE DISTRICT ZONE PROPERTIES, BUT THIS IS A STREET VIEW OF THE VACANT PROPERTY AND THE UM, EMPTY HOUSE TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AT THE CORNER THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY WITH IS THEN THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NEWER THAN THE ORIGINAL HOUSES THAT WERE POSSIBLY BEEN HERE IN THE, IN THE PAST.

SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT KIND OF IN CONTEXTUALLY WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PARKING LOT OF THE CHURCH AND THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THIS SUBDIVISION THAT WAS DEVELOPED.

AND UM, IT IS LIKELY THAT THIS HOUSE, UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER HOUSE AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DRIVEWAY THAT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN HERE AND WAS TORN DOWN.

THE DARKER YELLOW OUTLINES DEEP TWO LOCATIONS OF WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO APPROXIMATELY LOCATE THE, UH, NEW OFFICE.

SO THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN, UM, THAT SHOWS HOW THEY PLAN ON ADDING THESE TWO MULTI-TENANT OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING AND SUB LANDSCAPE AROUND IT.

AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS LOT ADJACENT AT THE CORNER OF THE MAYFIELD AND UH, WATER WOULD DRIVE IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.

SO WITH THIS, TYPICALLY WE, IF THE ZONE CHANGE WAS APPROVED, THERE WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL USE OF BUDDING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE SHOW USES ON, UH, ZONINGS ON ALL THREE SIDES.

SO TYPICALLY WE WOULD REQUIRE A SIX FOOT MISSIONALLY SCREENING WALL WHEREVER THERE ARE BUDDING.

SO, UH, WEST, NORTH AND EAST WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PUT WOOD SCREENING WALL IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED MASONRY WALL THAT IS INCLUDED IN ONE OF THE VARIANCES REQUESTS.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL ELEVATION.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THE BUILDINGS WITH THE SIDING.

UM, THIS IS JUST AN ALTERNATIVE OF WHAT THIS PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED AS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.

SO EXISTING ZONING IS A SINGLE FAMILY TWO.

UM, AND IF THEY WERE, UH, TO BE DEVELOPED INTO THREE SINGLE FAMILY DETESTED HOMES, THEY COULD BE DEVELOPED EASILY WITHOUT ESSENTIAL VARIANCES AND WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH KIND OF A LOT CONFIGURATION OF ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM GENERAL DIMENSIONS.

SO THE EXISTING LOT IS SURROUNDED

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UM, AND ALL OTHER PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEY REQUESTED, UH, THE REQUESTED INCONSISTENT WITH THE AL AND USE EVIDENCE.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT THERE ARE NO COMMERCIALLY ZONE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE THOUSAND FEET FROM THE PROPERTY.

THE FIRST, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY YOU'LL SEE IS THE EPIC WEST WITH THE MICHAELS AND HOMEWOODS AND RAISING CANES AND ALL THAT AREA.

SO, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES, THE LOT SIZE WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE SCREENING FENCES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE PARKING SPACE.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE AREA IS IN THE OVERLAY AND THE PARKING SERVICE AS A MAXIMUM, NOT AS A MINIMUM.

MIGHT THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH IF, UH, APPLICANT DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED THE VARIANCE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT, STIFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CPA AND THE ZON REQUEST BECAUSE THE, UM, PROPOSED USE FOR OFFICE IS CONS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

IF THE PNC COMMISSION WERE TO RECOMMEND APPROVALS, THAT RECOMMENDS THREE CONDITIONS.

ONE IS THAT THE PROPERTY BE PLATTED.

TWO IS THAT THEY PROVIDE AT MINIMUM THE SIX MONTH BASICALLY SCREENING TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF IT.

UM, JUST SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IF THE EASTERN AND WESTERN PROPERTIES DEVELOP FOR CERTAIN OTHER USES, MAYBE THOSE WOOD SCREENING CAN EITHER REMAIN OR BE TORN DOWN OR BE ADJUSTED.

UM, AND THE APPLICATION, UH, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO THE SITE PLAN, UM, WITH, UM, WHICH COMPLIES WITH THE UDC AND APPENDIX F STANDARD.

AS WE DID NOT INTENS LOOKED AT ALL THE SITE PLANNING LANDSCAPE AND ELEVATION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FIRST.

UH, WITH THAT SAID, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS AND OPPOSITION, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, ONE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

ONE COMMENTED, BOTH ACTUALLY, SORRY, CAME FROM THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IN ALONG THE HACIENDA, UM, COURT.

UM, ONE DID NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

ONE HAD A COMMENT SAYING, HEY, WE REALLY WANT TO, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE PRESERVED AS A SINGLE FAMILY USE.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OTHER, UH, OPPOSITIONS OTHER THAN SOME INQUIRIES.

THIS CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.

MS. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

MS. JUNE THE, THE WHITE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD JUST DOWN FROM IT.

WHAT ROOFTOP, WHAT IS THAT? I BELIEVE THAT'S SOME KIND OF A EITHER GAS WELL OR SOME KIND OF UTILITY BUILDING WHERE IT'S, I I LOOKED IT UP.

I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A COMMERCIAL USE.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE UTILITY SITES.

YES SIR.

AND YOU HAVE A QUESTIONS COMMISSION FOR DARCO? YEAH.

JUNE AGAIN, CAN YOU MM-HMM .

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PRE-MEETING.

CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHY A FENCE ON THE NORTH BUT NOT ON THE OTHER SIDES? SURE.

SO, UM, SO IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A MASONARY SCREENING ON ALL THREE SIDES.

AND WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT.

AND THERE APPLICANTS REQUEST IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WOOD ON ALL THREE SIDES INSTEAD.

THAT IS KIND OF SET, UM, IN STAFF'S OPINION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE NORTH, TYPICALLY THEY WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF MASON SCREENING IF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THEM WERE TO BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT TO, USUALLY THE BACK OF THE COMMERCIAL USERS ARE WHERE THEY'RE LOADING, UNLOADING HAPPENS WHEN THEY TAKE OUT THE TRASH AND THINGS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THOSE TYPICALLY SERVES AS A SEPARATING WALL BETWEEN THE TWO USES.

SO CAN YOU USE YOUR POINTER AS WHILE YOU'RE TALKING? 'CAUSE WE CAN MAKE SURE YES MA'AM.

SO RIGHT HERE THAT'S THE NORTHERN PORTION.

SO IN STEP'S OPINION, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD A MASONRY SCREENING WALL ON THE WEST AND THE EAST IN THE FUTURE, IF THESE PROPERTIES WERE TO BE TURNED INTO NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, LIKELY THEY MAY TEAR IT DOWN OR THEY MAY, IT JUST SEEMS LESS ECONOMICALLY.

BUT YOU COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD TOO.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

BUT THERE'S LESS CHANCE FOR THESE SUBDIVISION TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THERE ARE TWO EXISTING INHABITED HOMES RIGHT NOW ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE.

I AGREE.

SO THE EAST SIDE, IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION, I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH THAT.

I JUST, WITH THE WEST SIDE, I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WILL STAY AS A HOME OR NOT.

I THINK COMMISSIONER MATTON HAS A, A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YES MA'AM.

SO CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT IS THE ZONING THAT, I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ANY KIND OF RESTAURANT COULD EVER GO INTO THIS PROPOSED ZONING? THANK YOU.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO OFFICE ZONING IS ONE OF OUR KIND OF A, UH, LEAST INTENSE ZONING CATEGORIES.

THEY ONLY ALLOW PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW WHAT YOU WILL SEE TYPICALLY IN COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL RETAIL, WHICH IS RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL STORES.

IT WOULD JUST BE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES.

AND WHAT ABOUT MEDICAL, LIKE PROCEDURAL MEDICAL? THEY COULD, THEY COULD, THEY COULD BE A MEDICAL OFFICE, LIKE A CLINIC.

THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM FELIX WONG.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE? YES.

WE HAVE UH, SPEAKER CARDS.

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I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE APPLICANT OR NOT.

HELLO SIR.

COME, COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS FELIX WONG.

MY ADDRESS IS 26 0 4 ABERDEEN DRIVE, ARLINGTON, TEXAS.

I'M THE APPLICANT.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS ALSO THE DEVELOPER.

SO OUR ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS FROM THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH IS SEVEN, WHICH IS SF TWO TO TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL SEE, YOU KNOW, I GO THROUGH MY SORT PRESENTATION.

Y WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND NOT JUST A STRAIGHT OFFICE ONLY.

SO LET'S FIRST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYFIELD ROAD.

YOU KNOW, THE CONDITION OF MAYFIELD ROAD IS A FOUR LANE ROW.

IT GO THROUGH NOT ONLY GRAND PERRY, BUT ALSO ALL THE WAY INTO, INTO ARLINGTON ALONG ITS COURSE, IT CAUSES OVER SEVERAL MAJOR REGIONAL HIGHWAYS AS I'VE LABELED HERE, HIGHWAY 360, YOU KNOW, GEORGE BUSH, FREEWAY HIGHWAYS 1 61 AND NOT MENTIONING GREAT SOUTHWEST PARKWAY, WHICH IS ANOTHER MAJOR ONTARIO IN THE MIDDLE.

AND, AND IT'S A FALLEN STREET.

WHEN I'M DRIVING ON CHECK, CHECKING ON THE PROPERTY, I'M DRIVING 35 40.

I'M PROBABLY THE SLOWEST ONE THAT ARE DRIVING ON MAYFIELD.

SO TYPICALLY A STREET LIKE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD GENERALLY THINK OF AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE NOT HERE TO CHALLENGE THE, THE FUTURE LANGUAGE MAP.

WE UNDERSTAND WHY AND, AND, AND THE PURPOSE.

OFTEN IT'S PAINTED WITH A BROAD STROKE.

IT APPLIES SPECIFICALLY MORE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE DEVELOPING 20, 30, 40 ACRES.

AND IT IS THERE TO TELL YOU THAT IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING NEXT TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, TRY TO COMPATIBLE, TRY TO BE, TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY AND NOT PUT IN MEDIUM DENSITY LIKE, LIKE QUAD PLEXES OR APARTMENTS NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THAT THAT'S THE INTENT OF SAYING LOW DENSITY, DON'T DO HIGH DENSITY.

I HAVE PICTURES ON, ON THE, THE, THERE'S SO MUCH TALK ABOUT THIS.

THIS EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE PICTURES ON THE LEFT CORNER IN THE BACK, RIGHT CORNER IN THE BACK AS WELL ACROSS THE STREET.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ON, ON THE LEFT CORNER, UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE IS THERE.

AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WOOD FENCE, YOU, YOU HAVE WHAT LOOKS LIKE THEIR, THEIR STORAGE BUILDING, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF WHAT PE PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR, IN THEIR BACKYARD.

SO THAT SERVE ANOTHER LAYER OR BUFFER TO, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM SEEING WHATEVER WE ARE DEVELOPING ON, ON, ON OUR PROPERTY.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE, THE RIGHT SIDE THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THERE'S SOME TWO STORY HOUSES ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

YOU HAVE BOTH SINGLE, SINGLE STORY AND TWO STORY.

AND ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS A SUBDIVISION THERE, THERE'S A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION, THERE'S A SCREENING WALL THAT IS PROTECTING THOSE HOMES THAT KEEP YOU FROM SEEING INTO THEIR BACKYARD.

AND, AND OUR MEASUREMENT FROM, WE DID WHEN WE DID A SURVEY, THAT WALL THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, THEY'RE PROTECTING THOSE HOMES IS 182 FEET FROM THE FACE OF OUR, OF OUR BUILDING.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN, WHEN WE ARE IN OUR BUILDING LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, LOOKING OUT THE OFFICE WINDOW, THAT WALL THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS 182 FEET ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAYFIELD ROAD.

IT'S A LONG DISTANCE.

ONE MORE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE I LEAVE THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, BACK TO THE LEFT, RIGHT THE, THE LEFT REAR CORNER, THAT'S WHERE WE WILL PROPOSE TO DO A FUTURE SCREENING WALL.

YES, IT IS TRUE THAT IN OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST WE HAVE PROPOSED A SIX FOOT BOARD ON BOARD WOOD FANS THINKING THAT WOULD BE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY AS FAR AS THE BRICK WALL OR MASONRY WALL.

WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR STAFF COMMENTS ON THE SITE PLAN, IT WAS POINTED OUT WHEN THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE TYPE ONE FANS AS THE UDC CALLS IT.

SO WHEN WE RESUBMITTED OUR SITE PLAN, OUR CONCEPT PLAN, OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE HAVE CHANGED THE LABEL AND GOT RID OF THE BOUGHT ON, BOUGHT WOOD FANS AND REPLACE THAT WITH A NEW LABEL CALLED TYPE ONE FANS PER SECTION EIGHT POINT 10.1 OF THE UDC WHEN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PUT DOWN IN, IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT YOU

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COULD PROBABLY ZOOM IN AND SEE THAT, PUT THAT ON.

TO MAKE IT EASIER, WE PUT IT ON ALL THREE SIDES, LEFT SIDE, RIGHT SIDE, EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE, AS WELL AS THE NORTH SIDE.

THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE DOING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF A STRAIGHT OFFICE ZONING.

WE WANT TO COME IN WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY DESIGN, ONE STORY ONLY WITH A RESIDENTIAL GABLE ROOF.

NOT A PER PER, NOT A FLATT ROOF, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF A COMMERCIAL.

A GABLE ROOF IS MORE NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY.

THE O FOUR HEIGHT IS LESS THAN 25 FEET, WHICH IS LESS THAN, THAN SOME OF THE TWO SOY HOUSES THAT IS ADJACENT TO TO TO, TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WITH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU ARE LOCKING IN ALL THOSE NUMBERS THAT, THAT I JUST MENTIONED TO YOU, AS WELL AS THIS DRAWING, THIS DESIGN RIGHT HERE.

WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A LOW DENSITY, LOW INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

THOSE TWO BUILDING THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ONLY OCCUPIED 24% OF THE LOT, 24% AND OUT THE ENTIRE LOT AREA 36% OF IT IS NOT PAVED.

IT'S LANDSCAPED WITH GRASS AND TREES AND, AND SHRUBS.

WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM WAVE AND THE MINIMUM DEPTH IN THE, IN THE TYPICAL O OFFICE ZONING, EVEN THOUGH OUR, OUR LOT SIZE AS IT IS AT 36,000 SQUARE FEET IS LESS THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 50,000.

BUT OUR THOUGHT IS THAT WHEN THIS NEXT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT, A SMALLER SCALE AT 36,000 IS BETTER THAN A BIGGER SCALE AT 50 OR 60,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH MIGHT CONTAIN THREE OR FOUR BUILDING, ESPECIALLY JUST TWO.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THERE'S AS INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND TREES EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENT YOU CAN SEE COMPARED TO REQUIRED COLUMN WITH THE PROPOSED COLUMN.

I WON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED, I NEED TO READ THE NUMBERS OUT TO YOU, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN OUR, IN OUR PROPOSAL.

I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, DENSITY BECAUSE THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE A, A, A PART OF THE, UH, A ISSUE HERE RELATED TO THE, TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DENSITY, I I WANT TO PROPOSE TO YOU IS NOT JUST A NUMBER LIKE SO MANY DENSITY PER ACRE AS HUMAN BEINGS, WE GO WITH LOOKS AND FIELDS UNDER THE CURRENT SF TWO ZONING BECAUSE OF THE MINIMUM 50 FOOT WIDE LOT, THERE COULD BE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, FOUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON THERE.

AND THOSE HOMES, BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE 10 FEET FROM SIDE TO SIDE.

THE E WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE BE SEVEN AND A HALF TO, TO, TO TO, OR, OR SEVEN FEET BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSION BEYOND, BEYOND THE SIDEWALL.

SO COMPARED TO JUST TWO BUILDING 20 FOOT APART SEEMS LIKE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME, MOST LIKELY TWO STORY WOULD FEEL MORE DENSE AND MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT I, THAT YOU'VE SEEN.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

SO IN LOOKING AT YOUR PLAN HERE ON THE SCREEN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE LEFT THAT PARKING AVAILABLE TO HEAD TO THE EAST.

ARE YOU IN TOX AT ALL WITHIN WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT'S ON THE CORNER? WE, WE ARE NOT NOW.

UH, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VARIANCE TOO.

JUST SINCE PARKING WAS MENTIONED, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THE MAXIMUM IS ALSO THE MINIMUM IS ALSO THE MAXIMUM.

WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY PARKING SPACES.

WE, WE BE, IF IT PLEASE THE COMMISSION, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK DOWN TO 28 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED AS VERSUS YOUR 34.

MY QUESTION THOUGH STILL STANDS.

SO YOU, YOU WERE NOT TALKING TO THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR TO TRY TO OBTAIN THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD HAVE THE PARKING LOT REMAIN LIKE THAT WITH A DEAD END.

IT, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE TURN THE, THE DUMPSTER IN THAT LOCATION WITH THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE ON THE EAST END, NOT ON THE, ON, ON THE EAST, NOT ON THE WEST.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE, UH, THE LAST SPACE HAVING TO SWING OUT AND BEFORE THEY HEAD OUT ON ONTO THE STREET.

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THAT WOULD BE, IF WE REDUCE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, IT WON'T BE THAT CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBOR.

AND HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE AND WHERE THE END OF THAT PARKING LOT IS? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL ON THE DRAWING.

ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL THE ON ON THE EAST END? YES.

IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NOT, BUT JUST INCHES.

AND, AND I WONDER IF, DOES STAFF KNOW, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE THE RESIDENCE END THEIR HOUSE, THEIR, UM, FENCE ENDS IN RELATION TO WHERE THIS PARKING LOT ENDS? SO THERE, UM, LIKELY THE RESIDENCE FENCE IS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.

UHHUH, .

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, STEPH DIDN'T WANNA PUT THEM THROUGH INDEPTH DESIGN OF THE SITE, UM, WHEN THEIR ZONING IS NOT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO YEAH.

WASTE A LOT OF HOURS ON THAT, SO MM-HMM .

I THINK WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT THEY CAN ADJUST THAT, UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF LAID OUT AS A SCHEMATIC TO COMMUNICATE THE IDEA BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT SPACE FOR THE CARS TO BACK OUT FROM THE PARKING LOT I GET.

YEAH, I GET THAT.

BUT MY CONCERN IS IF I'M THE REMAINING HOUSE NEXT DOOR AND I HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT IS OFF, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M LOOKING OUT MY FRONT YARD ON MY LAWN AND THERE'S A PARKING LOT THAT'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT.

LIKE IN MY SITE, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

AND, UM, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE MASON SCREEN SCREENING REQUIREMENT WHERE THE APPLICANT IS SAYING WE WANNA PUT THE PUT UP A WOOD FENCE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

TYPICALLY YOU WOULDN'T REALLY SEE THAT WITH FENCE EXTENDING OUT INTO FRONT YARD.

AND THEN SINCE YOU'RE SPEAKING JUNE, I WONDER, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT IS THE TYPE ONE SCREENING FENCE? YES, MA'AM.

THE TYPE ONE SCREENING FENCE.

THE, SO THE TYPE ONE SCREENING FENCE IS THE MASONRY SCREENING FENCE MASON.

TYPE THREE IS THE WOOD FENCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.

IT'S JUST A NAME THAT CONVENTION THAT WE CALL JUST TO SIMPLIFY INSTEAD OF CALLING IT SIX FENCE MASON LEAF SCREENING WALL.

COMMISSIONER FEDARKO.

MR. WONG, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IF, IF WE WERE TO GRANT THIS AND REQUIRE A MASON WALL ON ALL THREE SIDES? NO, WE, WE ALREADY PROPOSED IT IN, IN THE PLAN THAT YOU RECEIVE IN YOUR PACKET ALREADY.

I, IT IS OUR FAULT THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT LABEL BIGGER.

IT'S LABEL AS TYPE ONE FANS ON ALL THREE SIDES.

ANY MORE QUE QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT? IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD PROPOSAL IN, IN MY MIND IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE, UH, RESIDENTIAL FRIENDLY WITH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS AND THE, AND NOT THE STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL LOOK.

SO I I LIKE THAT, THAT YOU TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE ONLY THING THAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT ATTORNEY FOR SEVEN OPERATION, IT'S OFFICE HOURS.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO.

SO WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES ARE YOU PROPOSING TO BE THERE? WE HAVEN'T STARTED LEASING YET.

TYPICALLY THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS THAT YOU SEE ARE THE KIND THAT YOU WOULD NOT SEE GOING INTO WHERE MARSHALL AND HOME GOOD IS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE GUY WHO DOES YOUR TAX RETURN MM-HMM .

THE, UH, THE, YOUR, UH, YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS SUCH AS EBO JONES OR YOUR INSURANCE AGENT LIKE ALLSTATE OR, OR STATE FARM.

YOU MAY HAVE A, A TITLE COMPANY THERE WHO HANDLE PEOPLE'S CLOSING MM-HMM .

TO GET THEM IN THEIR HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD GO INTO A, A SMALL CENTER LIKE THERE VERSUS GOING ON ON 360 OR, OR 1 61.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU MR. AL.

I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, CERTAINLY THE DESIGN LOOKS, LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

I MEAN, THE CONSIDERATION INTO MAKING IT NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY CERTAINLY GOES A LONG WAYS.

JUST A QUESTION.

DID YOU CONSIDER JUST MAYBE PUTTING TO YOUR POINT, MAYBE THREE HOMES AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, UH, AN OFFICE SPACE? JUST, JUST WONDERING YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT.

IF IT'S JUST, UH, AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU.

CONSIDER DOING HOMES INSTEAD OF A, YOU KNOW, OFFICE BUILDING.

IN FACT, THE, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER HAD HIS INITIAL THOUGHT WHEN HE START SERVING, LAYING OUT A PROPERTY UNDER THE SF TWO ZONING ON 50 FOOT WIDE LOT.

IT IS FOUR, FOUR LOTS FOR FOUR HOMES.

THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT IT, THE ALTERNATIVE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING IS FOUR HOMES, 10 FEET APART.

THAT'S TWO.

THE DENSITY IS NOT.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GET THE STAFF JUST TO CONFIRM THAT'S THE CASE.

WHAT IS THE CASE? THE, THE 50 FOOT? SO ACTUALLY SF TWO ZONING, AS I'VE SHOWN YOU, REQUIRES 80 FOOT LOTS.

SO HAVING THREE LOTS IS PROBABLY WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE MAXIMUM, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT 50 FOOT Y RIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

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I THINK THAT'S IT FOR US.

I DO BELIEVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, NO, THIS IS A COMMENT.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING INSTEAD OF A TWO STORY BUILDING.

THE ONE THING THAT I LIKE IS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING BUSINESSES TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL ALL OVER TOWN TO GO TO A INSURANCE COMPANY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA DO REPUTABLE, UPSCALE BUSINESSES.

NOT, UH, UH, ANYTHING A DOLLAR STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE DOING THINGS THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THEY LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE IT FITS IN BECAUSE YOU ARE THE WAY YOU'RE BUILDING AND THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.

I LIKE THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER MA? UH, SIR, I THINK IT'S FOR STAFF.

UM, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW FAR BACK STOP, UM, FROM THE ROADWAY THAT A FENCE WOULD STOP OR START? RIGHT.

SO TYPICALLY FENCES NEED TO STOP AT THE FRONT SETBACK.

SO IF IT, THE FRONT SETBACK IS 25 FEET, THEN THEY WILL NEED TO STOP AT 25 FEET.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE A FENCE WITHIN IN, WITHIN THE FRONT YARD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS FOLLOWING ON MICHELLE'S QUESTION.

THE FENCE DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE HOW FAR IT'S FEET, 25 FEET FROM THE STREET.

I, UH, I FORGET WHAT THE SETBACK IS FOR THE OFFICE ZONING.

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A ZONING.

CAN YOU COME UP, CAN YOU COME BACK UP AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY, SURE.

SORRY.

AND USE YOUR POINTER.

I'M A KIND OF VISUAL PERSON.

COMMISSIONER MADDEN BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT E NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE COULD STAND UP.

NO, LEAVE THE MAP UP PLEASE.

SO NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE COULD WALK OUT OF THEIR FRONT YARD AND THEY SEE TO THEIR RESPECTIVE LEFT OR RIGHT.

THEY SEE A PARKING LOT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS LINE WHERE THEY'RE LABELING 25 FRONT, FRONT SETBACK.

UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS AROUND.

I SEE IT.

SO THAT'S TECHNICALLY WHERE THE FENCES WOULD STOP RIGHT HERE.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT.

THERE'S A, A SLIDE THERE.

CAN YOU USE A POINTER ON THAT? UH, CAN, YEP.

SO THIS LINE RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, YOU HAVE IT LABELED.

IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE.

THAT'S, YOU HAVE IT LABELED, BUT YEAH.

IS THERE, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE THE FENCE GO A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE UDC BECAUSE THE REASON THAT THEY CANNOT BE SO CLOSE TO THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY IS SOMETIMES THAT CREATES ACTUALLY SAFETY ISSUES.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

WE, YEAH.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUNE? ANY OTHER? THANK YOU, JIM.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

AND GOING BACK TO MR. UM, UH, GONZALEZ, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S QUESTION.

SO THAT RED, UM, LABEL KIND OF SHOWS KIND OF THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH THAT'S REQUIRED IN THIS F TWO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, MR. WONG, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY? JUST BRIEFLY.

'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING RID OF YOU PROBABLY PASSED 30 MINUTES ALREADY.

BECAUSE THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THE TYPE ONE FANS TO EVEN WITH THE FRONT LANDSCAPING SO THAT IT WILL GET PAST THE, THE, ALL THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT.

AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DRAWING, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL A LONG WAY TO THE, TO THE CURB LINE ON, ON, ON, ON MAYFIELD.

PEOPLE PULLING OUT THE DRIVEWAY IS NOT GOING TO BE YEAH, WE CAN'T BE CAREFUL OF THAT.

THE UDCI THINK THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT.

I THINK RASHAD MENTIONED THAT THE UDC UH, REQUIREMENT.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING DESIGN THAT THEY HAD UP, THAT SCREENING WALL WOULD PARTIALLY SCREEN THOSE FRONT PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THAT 25 FOOT MARK.

SO GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY LINE, I THINK WOULD CAUSE MORE OF A CONCERN OF THOSE ABUTTING PROPERTIES HAVING TO COME OUT ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OF MAYFIELD TO LOOK AROUND BEFORE THEY PULL OUT.

SO I'D RATHER KEEP IT AT THE 25 FOOT MARK.

MAKES SENSE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS, UH, DISTRICT TWO.

I MEAN THIS IS, UH, YEAH, DISTRICT TWO.

A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

MS. MS. COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

WELL, ALL RIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEMS. I'M GONNA DO 'EM TOGETHER.

UM, 11 AND 12 CPA 23 0 5 0 0 7, AND ZERO N 23 0 5 0 0 1 7.

AND I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DECLINE THE REQUEST.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DECLINE ITEM, UH, 11 AND 12 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND

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UM, COCA, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT, RAISE YOUR HAND.

DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION? CAN I ASK? I MEAN, IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, SO I GOTTA BE DEFERENTIAL TO THAT.

BUT WHY? IT'S A NICE PLAN.

I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE RESIDENCES AND ADJACENT, ESPECIALLY THE ONE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.

I MEAN, THIS PRETTY MUCH EDGES HIM OUT.

THE ONE, THE ONE TO THE EAST.

I, I, I'M TORN ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.

UM, I WOULD AGREE THAT THE DESIGN IS NICE IF HE HAD TOLD ME THAT HE WAS SPEAKING TO THAT PERSON ON THE CORNER, AND YES, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT OBTAINING THAT PROPERTY AND IT WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS, IT WOULD BE ALL COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE FROM THE CORNER TO THE END OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY CURRENTLY OWN.

I'D BE TOTALLY ON BOARD.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE CORNER LOT ACROSS FROM THE CHURCH, THEY'VE GOT A POOL, THEY'VE GOT A BUILDING THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY'S LONGTIME HOME.

AND SO IT IS MY CONCERN TO, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT THAT.

AND, AND I DO THINK THE PLAN IS LOVELY, BUT I ALSO AM CONCERNED, AND IF IT WERE ME ON THAT CORNER A LOT, UM, ONE I'D BE HERE, BUT IN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE, UM, I FEEL A DUTY TO PROTECT HIM.

AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING HE CAN DO TO CHANGE YOUR VIEW ON THAT? NO, BUT YOU GUYS CAN ALL VOTE AGAINST ME.

I'M JUST SAYING.

I MEAN, AND JUST SAYING NO, I ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH MICHELLE THERE.

THE FACT IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOME BUSINESS, THERE'S PLENTY OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UP THE STREET OF MAYFIELD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, PLENTY, ANY KIND OF OFFICE SPACE.

THE FACT THIS IS, THIS AREA SEEMS TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOMES AS IT IS.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT, IT'S NOT MY AREA, IS THE FACT THAT, BUT NONE OF THE FOLKS ARE HERE.

YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU GET THE NOTICES THAT YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WITHIN 300 FEET, I MEAN, TO ME, IF IT WAS, IF I, IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD BE HERE.

SO THEY REALLY ARE NOT THAT ENGAGED IN THE WHOLE SITUATION.

AND I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, UH, PRESENTATION.

AND I LIKE THE, THE LOOK, I LIKE THE FACT THAT HE TOOK THE RESIDENCE INTO, INTO, UH, CONSIDERATION.

AND I, I THINK THAT I WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT.

I MEAN, I WOULD VOTE FOR THEM HAVING THAT, HIM HAVING THAT.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.

MY ONE PERSONAL OPINION, UH, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF LIKE AN ODD DUCK TYPE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE THE, THESE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY HELD OUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE TWO HOUSES BEFORE IT IS, BUT NOW WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE ASPECT OF, OF REALLY WHAT NEEDS, WHAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD TO GO IN THERE AT WHAT THE PROPERTY COSTS.

NOW, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU FACTOR IN WHAT THE PROPERTY COSTS NOW TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE THAT THEY COULD SELL WOULD PROBABLY DOUBLE THE PRICE OF THE, OF THE CURRENT HOUSES IN THAT AREA.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD WORK VERY WELL.

I MEAN, IT JUST GOT LEFT OUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND IT'S HANGING OUT THERE.

SO I'M, I'M THINKING THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE WOULD BE FOR SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, SMALL BUSINESS.

LIKE, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, INSURANCE OR, OR A MEDICAL POSITION, TEXAS, WHATEVER.

WELL, AND, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, BUT AGAIN, I KNOW, I KNOW OUR, OUR, UM, CHAIRPERSON MENTIONED THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT PRESENT.

BUT AGAIN, THE, I KALO PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER CASE, MOST OF THEM WERE NOT PRESENT TOO.

SO THAT BEING SAID, SECONDLY, EVEN IF THE, EVEN IF THE DESIGN LOOKED LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR, SOME OF OUR AREAS WHERE THEY'LL TAKE, UM, OLDER HOUSES AND TURN THEM INTO BUSINESSES WHERE THEY LOOK LIKE HOMES AND HAD DRIVES AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE LEANING MORE TOWARDS THAT JUST AGAIN, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT THAT PER PERSON ON THE CORNER HAS THAT HOUSE, THAT HOME AND, BUT WE ALL, WE ALL, YOU KNOW, VOTE AS WE FEEL.

AND, AND THAT'S THE ONE GOOD THING I LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MADDEN IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL HERE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE ALL HAVE AN OPINION AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD VOTE YOUR CONSCIOUS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO.

YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE, THE, THE COUNCIL IS GONNA DO WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES, RIGHT? SO WE'RE JUST MAKING A PRELIMINARY DECISION AND THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY DO, WHATEVER THAT IS.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND FINISH.

I THINK, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ARE WE DONE WITH DISCUSSION? OKAY, COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD.

UH, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

ALRIGHT.

THE MOTION STILL STANDS.

I'M, I'M, I MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY BOTH ITEMS. UM, 11 AND 12, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, TO DENY ITEMS, UH, 11 AND 12 BY COMMISSIONER MADDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COCA.

AND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL, RAISE YOUR HAND.

1, 2, 3, 4, ALL, UH, IN FAVOR, OR IS THAT HOW I SAY IT? ALL? OPPOSED? ALL OPPOSED.

SO THE ITEM PASSES TO DENY THE ITEM PASSES TO DENY.

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FOUR TO THREE.

SO YOU GOT IT.

MICHELLE .

[13. SUP-23-03-0008 - Specific Use Permit - Spectrum of Love Day Care (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for a Child Day Care. GSID Community #5, Block 2, Lot 6, Site 7, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned LI, within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 840 Greenview Dr]

NEXT ITEM.

ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SPECTRUM OF LOVE DAYCARE.

IT'S LOCATED AT EIGHT 40 GREENVIEW DRIVE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY LOCATION OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO OCCUPY A PORTION OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE SUITE LOCATED TO, UH, THE FURTHEST SOUTH.

UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OCCUPYING ABOUT A 4,100 SQUARE FOOT LEASE SPACE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, SO THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS, THEY'RE A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES THERAPEUTIC AND EDUCATIONAL SERVICES TO CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.

AND THE REASON IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS BECAUSE THOSE OPERATIONS WILL INCLUDE CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE.

SO BASED ON OUR DEFINITION OF A CHILD DAYCARE SERVICE AND THE LICENSE THAT THEY WILL BE OBTAINING FROM THE, UH, UH, THE STATE, IT DOES TRIGGER THAT SUP REQUIREMENT.

THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING, OR THEIR PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 7:00 AM TO 6:30 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

UH, THEY WILL BE COMPLYING WITH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THOSE OF THE STATE.

UH, ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS IS THEY PROVIDE AN OUTDOOR FENCED PLAY AREA, AND THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH GETTING, UH, BUILDING PERMITS TO PROVIDE THAT FENCING.

UH, THIS IS A VIEW, UH, THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN IS A VIEW, UH, UH, THIS IS THE, THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD BE OCCUPYING SOUTH OF THAT IS AN OPEN AREA, WHICH IS WHERE THEY WOULD BE PROVIDING THAT OPEN, UH, PLAY AREA.

THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL A SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR INSTALL FIRE RATED SEPARATIONS TO REDUCE THE AREA CONTAINED WITHIN EITHER EXTERIOR WALLS OR THE FIRE SEPARATION TO 12,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.

AND SO THIS IS COMING FROM THE BUILDING CODE AND FIRE CODE.

UH, WE DID WANT TO MAKE IT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL SO THAT THE APPLICANT IS AWARE, BUT THAT, UM, ANY, ANY PERMITS THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THE BUILDING PERMITTING TIME.

COMMISSIONER MR. MADDEN.

DID, DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THEY'RE NOT USING THE ENTIRE PIECE OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE JUST USING A PORTION, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE OTHER PORTION, DIFFERENT OFFICE TYPE USES? UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? COMMISSIONER COCA COURT IS THE, UH, APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, YES, SHE IS HERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT.

WE THE SPEAKER CARDS PLEASE? UH, YES.

MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD AND THAT IS THE APPLICANT.

DEJA ARD, DID YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE? MS. ARD? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

DEJA ARD 8 48 GREENVIEW DRIVE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

AND DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER COCO? YES.

UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

UH, DAYCARE, THANK YOU.

AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN IS VERY, VERY NEEDED.

UM, I'M A TEACHER.

SO MY QUESTION, THERE WILL BE SOME OFFICE SPACES NEXT TO IT.

UM, HOW ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT AT ALL TIMES THE CHILDREN DON'T HAVE ACCESS OR MAKING SURE THAT THE ADULTS IN THE OTHER OFFICES DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, THE CHILDREN? SO, UM, TO THE RIGHT OF OUR BUILDING, THERE IS A SECURITY COMPANY.

SO THEY PROVIDE SECURITY SERVICES.

UM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY ON THE CORNER.

AND THEN JUST TO THE RIGHT OF OUR BUILDING, WE WOULD HAVE THE FENCE, SO THERE WOULD BE NO INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN? I MEAN, FOR, FOR DCO.

GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, UH, UH, WHAT'S YOUR HISTORY IN, IN OPERATING A, UH, A CARE CENTER? YES.

SO, UM, I OWNED A CHILDCARE CENTER IN DUNCANVILLE.

UM, AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR CHILDREN WITH AUTISM AS WELL.

UM, SO I'M JUST MOVING MY BUSINESS FROM DUNCANVILLE HERE TO GRAND PRAIRIE BECAUSE THESE FAMILIES WERE COMING TOO FAR.

THEY WERE COMING ALL THE WAY FROM PLANO, MCKINNEY, UM, LITTLE M EVERYWHERE TO COME TO DUNCANVILLE.

SO I REALLY WANT IT TO BE IN MORE CENTRAL AREA.

SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED IT.

COMMISSIONER, FEDCO, MS. ARD, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM? YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS TALKING ABOUT.

I UNDERSTAND AND I'M JUST, IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE, UM, BUILDING CODE, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING MY SPECIFIC SPACE TO HAVE THE SEPARATIONS.

THEY'RE JUST REQUIRED BECAUSE I'M IN A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT HAS, WE HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATION

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SOMEWHERE IN THE .

BUT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT CONDITION? YES.

I HAVE TO BE .

THE WILL, WILL THE, UH, THE, THE BUILDING OWNER, WILL THEY PAY FOR THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR? WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN TALKS WITH IT.

I'VE CONSIDERED THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, BUT IT'S OVER $150,000.

AND THEN THE, UH, THE SEPARATIONS ARE AROUND AROUND 25, 30,000.

SO AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO BE HERE, I DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN MY LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO VACATE THE PROPERTY IF I CAN'T AFFORD, CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, ANY OTHER QUICK COMMISSIONER THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK TOO, IS, IS THE, UH, DOES THE BUILDING ALREADY HAVE FIRE SUPPRESSION? NO.

SO I ACTUALLY WORK FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION COMBAT, SO THAT $150 OR $150,000 NUMBER IS PROBABLY RIGHT.

IT'S NOT CHEAP.

SO, UM, I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

PEOPLE, THEY GO IN THERE AND LIKE, OH, WOW, THIS IS A BALLOON NUMBER I DIDN'T EXPECT.

SO YEAH, THAT'S, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

I APPLAUD YOU AS COMMISSIONER COCO DID ABOUT, UH, BRINGING IT TO THE AREA BECAUSE AUTISM IS SO IMPORTANT AND THERE'S SO MANY KIDS THAT HAVE MISSED THE MARK AND NEVER GET ANY KIND OF HELP AT ALL.

AND FOR YOU TO WANNA BRING IT HERE TO US, I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES.

AND, UH, I, I WISH YOU WELL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ONE MORE COMMENT HERE, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

IS THERE A, IS THERE A VARIANCE YOU CAN GO DO ON THAT SAVANNAH, AS SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, THERE, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT A VARIANCE TO THE FIRE CODE OR BUILDING CODE.

UHHUH , OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY GREAT WITH WORKING WITH APPLICANTS AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION UPFRONT AND WORKING WITH THEM ON, UH, YOU CAN DO X, Y, AND Z, BUT UH, THEY'VE GOTTA DO X, Y, AND Z.

AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THE KIDS AT RISK.

NO.

SO ONE, ONE THING I WAS THINKING THAT YOU MAY WANNA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH WHO, YOUR BENEFACTORS, WHOEVER'S HELPING YOU TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND THAT IS IMPORTANT AND, AND THAT THEY WANT TO, TO GET A RETURN, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO I THINK YES MA'AM.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD WAY TO PUSH THAT ITEM.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

LIKE MR. COLEMAN SUGGESTED, UH, ASK THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING MM-HMM .

HAVE A MEETING WITH THE OWNER AND HAVE THAT CONVER THAT COURAGEOUS CONVERSATION.

UM, WELL WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND HE'S NOT COMPLETELY AGAINST IT.

HE'S JUST, HONESTLY, HE'S JUST VERY FRUSTRATED THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS BEING REQUIRED UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE IT IS A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE AND MOST OF THOSE, UM, SUITES ARE ALREADY OCCUPIED AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TO DO THAT.

SO COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO IS THIS A MATTER OF GETTING A CO SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD MOVE INTO THIS SPACE NOW IS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE FIRE SUPPRESSION, IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS USE.

JUST THE USE.

SO THIS USE FALLS UNDER A CERTAIN ASSEMBLY AND THE BUILDING CODE THAT REQUIRES THIS AND IT'S REALLY LIFE SAFETY.

SO THE VARIANCE IS THE OPTION TO DO THE OH, UH, FIRE SEPARATION WALL.

THAT IS THE SO IT'S EITHER OR? YES.

SO EITHER THAT WALL OR THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, IS IT EDUCATIONAL OR, I, I, THAT'S THE SPECIFIC SIDE.

MY BUILDING CODE, MY BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS.

BUT IT'S REALLY, I THINK LIFE SAFETY, THE NUMBER OF KIDS, THE NUMBER, THE TYPE OF USE, YES.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE SAFETY.

I THINK THAT YES MA'AM.

YOU'RE THE OWNER IS NOT LOOKING REALLY REALISTICALLY AT THIS, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE, THE, OUR, OUR CHILDREN, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT THE OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED IT PROBABLY SINCE THAT BUILDING WAS, WAS PUT UP, YOU KNOW, SO YES', MA'AM.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND I'M, I'M DEFINITELY HERE FOR WHATEVER WOULD KEEP NOT ONLY MY KIDDOS SAFE, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

IT, THE CHALLENGE IS JUST THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT FOR US.

I, YEAH.

WELL, I THINK YOU CAN PUSH HARD ON SAFETY AND THEN YOU COULD LET SAVANNAH BACK YOU UP AND SHE CAN TELL THEM THE, THE DETAILS OR TECHNICAL DETAILS AS TO WHY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALL IN THE WHY RIGHT NOW.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD BUSINESS COMMISSIONER COLEMAN RASHAD, WOULD A WALL BE A, A LESS EXPENSIVE ROUTE TO GO? YEAH.

AND THEY, SHE'S BEEN PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION AS MENTIONED.

ANY MORE DI ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

PLEASE DO.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 13 AND APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 13 BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

[02:20:04]

ALRIGHT.

ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW FOR ZAZA HOOKAH LOUNGE.

THIS NEXT

[14. SUP-23-05-0015 - Specific Use Permit Review - Zaza Hookah Lounge (City Council 2). Review SUP No. 1125A, a Specific Use Permit for Amusement Services authorizing a Hookah Lounge, for compliance with SUP conditions, and modify, renew, or revoke if deemed appropriate based upon the review. Lot 2, Block 1, Gibsons Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-394, and addressed as 906 W Pioneer Pkwy Suite 250]

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO BRING FORWARD SUP 1125 A AND REVIEW IT AGAINST THE COMPLIANCE WITH OUR SUP CONDITIONS AND ANY OTHER, UH, REGULATIONS.

AND BASED ON THAT REVIEW, UH, WE ARE RE EITHER RECOMMEND MODIFYING IT, RENEWING IT, OR REVOKING IT IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.

UM, SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SUP 1125 A IS FOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS AUTHORIZING A HOOKAH LOUNGE.

UH, SO THE SUP WAS BROUGHT BACK AND RENEWED AGAIN FOR SIX MONTHS, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THE OPERATIONS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUP CONDITIONS AND THEN ALL OTHER RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS TO REPORT TONIGHT.

UH, BECAUSE OF THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A RENEWAL OF THIS SUP FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THAT ONE.

ANY, ANY MORE? ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE TAKING A VOTE? WHOSE AREA IS THIS? THIS IS COMMISSIONER MADDEN.

YES, .

WILL YOU DO US THE HONORS PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

UH, I, I , I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 14 SEP 23 0 5 0 0 1 5.

AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER, UH, 14 BY COMMISSIONER MATT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

GOOD, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER.

[15. ZON-23-05-0018 - Zoning Change - 1905 Galveston Street (City Council District 1). Zoning Change from Planned Development-146 to Single Family-Six Residential District on 0.176 acres. Lot 2, Block 102, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, zoned PD-146, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1905 Galveston Street]

THE ITEM NUMBER 15.

THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AT 1905 GALVESTON STREET, ZON 2 3 0 5 0 0 1 8.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM PD, WHICH HAS THE COMMERCIAL, USES THE BASE ZONING TO SF SIX TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME.

UM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LINEAGE MAP AND IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

THIS AREA GENERALLY HAS BEEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS TWO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE.

THE SAME ZONE CHANGE FROM PD 1 46 TO SF SIX AND HAS BUILT A HOME IN THE PAST.

THIS IS THE STREET VIEW OF THE LOT AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND THE ELEVATION KIND OF SHOWING WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THAT.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

DRC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE SUPPORT LETTER, BUT IT WAS FROM THE APPLICANT, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE PACKET.

RIGHT? YEAH.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUNE COMMISSIONERS? NO.

ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

WHOSE AREA IS THE DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER? MADAM CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC, UH, DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 15 AND VOTE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE.

ITEM 15 BY COMMISSIONER ERCO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT BEING SAID, NO OTHER BUSINESS.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.