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[RECONVENE MEETING]
MY MIC.WELCOME, UH, CALLED THE MEETING ORDER.
HAVE HAD A VERY GREAT MEETING SO FAR AND, UH, BETTER TO CONTINUE.
SO TONIGHT, UM, WHERE REBECCA AND I WENT TO CHURCH WHEN WE WERE FIRST MARRIED, FAIRVIEW BAPTIST CHURCH, PASTOR CARL ALLEN IS HERE TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.
FOLLOWING THAT OUR PLEDGES WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JACQUELINE HEADON.
PLEASE RISE, IF YOU WOULD ALL PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME AS WE GO TO THE LORD IN PRAYER.
HEAVENLY FATHER, I WANT TO THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR THESE YOUR SERVANTS, OUR MAYOR, OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR CITY STAFF, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL THOSE THAT WORK IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, LORD.
AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THE WAY OF SERVICE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO TAKE UP ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY, THE LORD, WE COME TO THIS ROOM TONIGHT, CARRYING BURDENS, CARRYING JOY AND HOPE, TRUSTING THAT YOU WILL ALONE CAN HOLD US TOGETHER OH GOD, AND YOUR LOVE AND YOUR PEACE.
LORD, HELP US LORD, TO TRUST YOU MORE AND MORE EACH AND EVERY DAY, MORE THAN OUR FEARS, OUR WOUNDS, AND EVEN OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
MAY WE LEAN ON YOUR EVERLASTING ARMS TONIGHT, FATHER GOD, BELIEVING AND KNOWING THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS TAKE US TO THE RIGHT PLACE.
BLESS THOSE BEFORE US, FATHER GOD, AS YOU BLESS US ALWAYS.
THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND PGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY REGIME JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE CITY, TEXAS, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
[3. Juneteenth Proclamation presented to Denise Gambrell]
I RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER JUNIOR ZANU TO READ PROCLAMATION.HONORED TO READ THE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN SIGNED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION ON JANUARY 1ST, 1863.
AND WHEREAS IT WAS TWO YEARS LATER WHEN THE, WHEN THE STATES, WHEN THE SLAVES IN TEXAS RECEIVED WORD THAT THEY HAD BEEN FREE.
AND WHEREAS ON JUNE 19TH, 1865, UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER READ THE PROCLAMATION IN GALVESTON DOES BELATEDLY BRINGING ABOUT THE FREEDOM OF 250,000 SLAVES IN TEXAS.
AND, AND WHEREAS GOVERNOR WILLIAM CLEMENTS SIGNED JUNETEENTH INTO LAW AS A STATE HOLIDAY IN 1979, ON JUNE 17TH, 2021, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SIGNED INTO LAW MAKING JUNETEENTH A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
THE LAW WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
AND WHEREAS WE RECOGNIZED THE EFFORTS OF OPAL LEE, KNOWN AS THE GRANDMOTHER OF JUNETEENTH AT 89 IN 2016, STARTED HER 2.5 MILE WALK FROM FORT WORTH, TEXAS TO WASHINGTON DC TO CAMPAIGN TO MAKE JUNETEENTH A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE WILL BE CELEBRATING THE HUNDRED 58TH ANN ANNIVERSARY OF THIS HOLIDAY AND THE 35TH YEAR OF FORMAL CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH, BEGINNING ON JUNE 16TH, 2023, THERE WILL BE AN EVENING EVENT AT DALWORTH RECREATION CENTER AND CONTINUE ON AND CONTINUING ON JUNE 17TH, 2023 WITH A PARADE FROM CITY HALL PLAZA TO TYREE PARK.
THE CELEBRATION WILL CONTINUE AT THE PARK FOLLOWING ALL SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR COVID CONCERNS FOR A SAFE, FUN FIELD, HISTORIC CELEBRATION.
NOW THEREFORE, MAYOR RON JENSEN ON BEHALF OF THE GRAND PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2023.
AS JUNETEENTH DAY IN OUR CITY, I HEREBY URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THIS DAY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECALL THE MI MILESTONE IN HUMAN RIGHTS, WHICH THIS DAY REPRESENTS.
I BELIEVE IT'S NOW SIGNED, SEALED, AND, AND FIXING TO BE DELIVERED.
I THINK PRESIDENT D DIXON, YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT.
AND I KNOW DENISE HAS BOY BEEN THE CHAMPION OF IT FOR YEARS.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T JUST RECOGNIZE HIM WITHOUT RECOGNIZING YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE FOR YEARS AND THAT Y'ALL HAVE, AND NOW IT'S A NATIONAL HOLIDAY, BUT Y'ALL WERE, Y'ALL WERE OUT THERE AHEAD OF THAT.
UM, MY, MY GOOD FRIEND, YOU WANT ME TO TAKE ANYBODY ELSE WANT ME TO TAKE A
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PICTURE OF THEIR CAMERA? PERFECT.BUT THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING OUT THERE, UH, A WEEK, NOT THIS WEEKEND, THE NEXT WEEKEND, AND HAVE THE PARADE AND THE DINNER THAT NIGHT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN COMING TO THAT DINNER QUITE A WHILE, SO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR ALWAYS FOR YEARS Y'ALL BEEN DOING IT, SO THANK YOU.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND A, A GREAT CITY AND THE WONDERFUL LEADERS, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER AS WELL.
D UH, DENISE HAS A COUPLE OF SHIRTS FOR YOU AND ONE FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE.
AND WE ARE, WE WANT TO ENTER OUR COUNCIL TO KNOW WE HAVE SHIRTS FOR ALL OF YOU.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PRESENT AND IN AND OUT BURGERS WILL BE THERE.
GRATEFUL WE'VE HAD HOT DOGS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IN, IN AND OUT BURGERS IS GREAT TOO.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS INTENTIONAL.
WELL, MY GOODNESS OPAL LEE, UH, YES, I HOPE I CAN WALK TWO AND A HALF MILES WHEN I'M HER EIGHT, SO, OH LORD,
UH, SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
HERE'S THE LAST, HERE'S THE LAST SECRET I WANT TO TELL YOU.
WELL, IT'S GOTTA BE A RHYME, I BET.
WELL, COUNCILMAN ZANU IS OUR WONDERFUL PARADE MARSHAL THIS YEAR.
THAT'S NOT WHY I HAD HIM READ THE PROCLAMATION.
GOTTA GET MY CAMARO WASHED UP, REVEREND, HERE'S THE PROCLAMATION.
NOW WE'LL HAVE IT AGAIN THERE FOR YOU AT THE, UH, EVENT AND GEORGIA ALWAYS LIKES READING IT FOR THAT WHILE I GO BACK TO MY SEAT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MAYOR PRO TEM HUMPHREYS, WILL YOU GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA? ABSOLUTELY.WE HAVE A QUESTION ON NUMBER NINE, A SPEAKER.
HAROLD AND HAROLD, WHILE YOU'RE COMING, I'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU, WE'RE TABLING ITEM 13, SO I WILL NOT HAVE YOU SPEAK ON 13 TONIGHT, BUT, UH, TABLING IT AGAIN, HUH?
SO, OKAY, WE'RE TABLING IT AGAIN.
SO NUMBER NINE, UH, HAROLD WILLIS, 5 38 LINLEY.
WHO IS SI ENERGY AND WHO IS SI ENERGY COALITION? OKAY, SO SEA ENERGY IS A GAS UTILITY COMPANY.
AND SEA ENERGY COALITION IS A GROUP OF CITIES THAT ARE SERVED BY SEA ENERGY.
SO WE, UM, HAVE EFFECTIVELY BANDED TOGETHER TO HELP NEGOTIATE RATES FOR OUR, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING THE, THE ENERGY.
SO SI ENERGY THROUGH, THROUGH ATMOS.
IT'S A, IT'S ITS OWN, IT'S A, IT'S LIKE ATMOS.
IT'S ITS OWN, IT'S NOT ATMOS, BUT LIKE I GET A BILL FROM ATMOS WHO, WHO DOES SI ENERGY SERVE IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE? IT'S MAINLY DOWN SOUTH.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IN OUR CLOSE TO OUR ETJ, THAT AREA.
I THINK IT'S, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT ELLI.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF ATMOS FOR THERE? CORRECT.
'CAUSE I KNEW IT, IT WAS ALL LONE STAR GAS, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 YEARS AGO.
SO, SO SI ENERGY SERVES ELLIS AND JOHNSON COUNTY.
SO NOTHING TO DO IN THIS PART OF GRAND PRAIRIE OR NOT IN THIS PART.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
WELL, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION MAYOR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE FULL AGENDA IS POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE THANK GT X.ORG.
AND, UM, IF YOU WANNA REVIEW ANYTHING IN MORE DETAIL AND OF COURSE ANYBODY CAN SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY AGENDA ITEM BY, UH, COMPLETING AND SUBMITTING A SPEAKER CARD.
THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD MOVE THE APPROVAL OF ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE AND NOTING THAT ON EIGHT, THE TIF R BOARD MET TO TODAY AND SUGGESTED APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHN LOPEZ.
[11. Grand Prairie Sports Facilities Development Corporation, Appointment of President of Board of Directors]
11.DURING PRE SPORTS FACILITIES DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AS I WANT THOSE THAT ARE REVIEWING TONIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THE SPORTS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS THE ACTUAL ENTITY THAT OWNS LONE STAR PARK.
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SEVEN.IT HAS SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, FOUR OF WHICH ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE OTHER THREE AT LARGE, AND THAT'S BY THE INCORPORATION PAPERS OF THE SPORTS CORPORATION.
THE OFFICERS FOR THAT CORPORATION ARE VOTED ON BY THE CORPORATION EXCEPT FOR THE PRESIDENT.
THE COUNCIL NAMES THE PRESIDENT OF IT.
IT'S NOT CONTRACTUAL REQUIRED TO BE THE MAYOR, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE MAYOR.
UH, AND WE'LL SEE IF IT IS AGAIN TONIGHT.
MAYOR, YOU MIGHT TAKE, WE MIGHT TAKE RIGHT.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, THAT WE APPOINT MAYOR RON JENSEN AS PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE GRAND PRIX SPORTS FACILITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TIMM HUMPHREYS.
AND LET ME, WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, UH, I'M ON THE COMMITTEE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMSON IS ON NOT THE COMMITTEE THAT BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COPELAND IS ON IT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER DEL BOSKY ARE THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ON IT.
SO, UH, THE NON COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE LATE EDDIE FREEMAN, BILL HILLS BEST FRIEND, LONGTIME FRIEND WAS ON IT UNTIL HIS RECENT PASSING.
UH, RJ GARCIA AND MIKE SKINNER ARE THE THREE NON COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT.
[12. EpicCentral Convention Center Name]
GONNA TABLE ITEM 12.CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 12.
MAYOR, I MOVE THE TABLING OF ITEM 12.
AND SECOND, THE TABLE, THE EPIC CENTRAL CONVENTION CENTER.
NAMING, UH, WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A BRIEFING.
[13. STP-23-02-0005 - Site Plan - BigShots Golf Entertainment (City Council District 2). Site Plan for an Amusement Services (Indoor) and Amusement Services (Outdoor) facility on 11.19 acres. A portion of Tract 2.2, William Reed Survey, Abstract No. 1193, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-436, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 1015 Ikea Place (On April 24, 2023, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with a condition by a vote of 6-0)]
ARE TABLING.CAN I HAVE A MOTION TABLE? ITEM 13.
MAYOR, I'D MOVE TO TABLE ITEM 13.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEDEN.
[Items 15 & 16]
15.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, I AM GOING TO BE PRESENTING ITEM 15 AND 16 TOGETHER AS THEY'RE RELATED.
AND THE FIRST COMPONENT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE SECOND IS THE ZONING CHANGE.
ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
UH, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS MIXED RESIDENTIAL.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN RED.
AND IN ORDER TO APPROVE THAT, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
UH, SO ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ZONING.
AGAIN, THERE ARE ARE A FEW PIECES OF PROPERTY.
THE FIRST IS TO THE NORTH, UM, AND THEN THIS AREA TOWARDS THE CENTER.
UM, BUT YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS ZONE LIGHT.
INDUSTRIAL STAFF'S UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SINCE IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
HOWEVER, THE REQUESTED ZONING AND, UH, MATCHES THE PREDOMINANT ZONING OF THE AREA.
THE REQUESTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION MATCHES THAT ZONING OF THE AREA.
THE SECOND ELEMENT IS THE ZONING CHANGE.
UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY ONE COMMERCIAL AND PD 3 81 AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THIS IS ABOUT 7.176 ACRES.
I WILL NOTE AGAIN, THIS IS THE ZONING AND THEN THE FUTURE LANE USE MAP.
I WILL NOTE THIS IS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT, A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED ACRES.
UH, THE SITE PLAN FOR THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED SINCE THEN.
THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL PARCELS AND SO THAT HAS ENABLED THEM TO, UH, KIND OF REDESIGN AND MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
THE TWO IMAGES ON THE SCREEN, THE FIRST IS THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL.
THE CLOUDED AREA IN RED SHOWS THE, UH, ZONING AREA AND THE SUBSEQUENT CHANGES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THIS IS THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THESE ARE THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BACK WITH THE SITE PLANNING CONCEPT PLAN.
SO STAFF'S UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE CASE BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ZONING DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND MAP.
HOWEVER, THE REQUESTED ZONING MATCHES THAT PREDOMINANT ZONING OF THE AREA.
UM, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL LAND ALLOWS FOR A MORE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW.
UH, SO ON MAY 8TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANOTHER REASON WHY I DON'T LIKE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS MAKES SENSE, BUT YOU CAN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
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WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS.CLEMSON, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? WE CAN.
I MAKE ONE MOTION TO DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
ANYTHING YOU WISH? THANK YOU MAYOR.
AND, UM, THANK YOU SAVANNAH AND THANK YOU RASHAD FOR DISCUSSING THIS WITH ME EARLIER TODAY AS WELL.
AND EXPLAINING IT A LITTLE MORE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
AND UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OF COURSE, THAT STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.
BUT HOWEVER, IF THE THINGS ZONED AROUND IT ALREADY ZONED DON'T FIT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA UNDO 'EM.
AND THAT'S WHAT RASHAD POINTED OUT TO ME, RIGHT? RASHAD? THE, SORRY, JUST, JUST RIGHT.
AND THAT DOES MAKE SENSE ON BOTH OF THEM.
AND IT WOULD BE COHESIVE AND, UH, EVEN A BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW.
SO UNDER THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.
AND UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, I WOULD MOVE THE APPROVAL OF ITEM 15 AND 1615.
WE HAVE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEBOSKY A MOTION.
[17. SUP-23-03-0010 - Specific Use Permit - Veterinary Emergency Group (City Council District 2). Specific Use Permit for a Veterinarian with Outdoor Kennel. Lot 11, Block A, Epic East Towne Crossing Phase 2, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-364, within the SH 161 Corridor Overlay District, and addressed as 3142 S HWY 161 (On May 8, 2023, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions by a vote of 9-0)]
17.THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VETERINARY EMERGENCY GROUP.
THIS IS FOR VETERINARIAN AND WITH OUTDOOR KENNEL LOCATED AT 31 42 SOUTH HIGHWAY 1 61, YOU WILL SEE THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.
THE AERIAL HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED.
THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED AND WAS APPROVED WITH A PREVIOUS SITE PLAN.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING A 24 HOUR CLINIC AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY JUST UNDER HALF OF THIS BUILDING.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE THIS LIGHT, LIGHT POLE, UH, THE AREA TO THE WEST OF IT, UH, THERE ARE GONNA BE STAFF 24 HOURS A DAY WITH ABOUT FIVE TO EIGHT STAFF ON SITE AT A TIME.
UH, ANIMAL WASTE THAT OCCURS WITHIN THE HOSPITAL OR OUTDOOR AREAS WILL BE COLLECTED BY STAFF AND DEPOSITED INTO THE CLOSED WASTE DISPOSAL CONTAINERS ON MAY 8TH.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE FIRST, THAT IS THAT OUTDOOR OPERATIONS SHALL BE LIMITED TO PET RELIEF AND EXERCISE KENNELS ARE NOT PERMITTED OUTDOORS.
UM, STAFF SHALL PATROL THE SITE AT LEAST TWICE DAILY AND PICK UP PET WASTE AND DISPOSE OF IT AS STATED IN THE OPERATIONAL PLAN.
UH, STAFF DID CHECK WITH THE ANIMAL SERVICES AND THEY, THEY PATROL ONCE A DAY.
SO STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, THE TWICE DAILY THINKS IT'LL BE, UH, A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND THEN THE STAFF SHALL MAINTAIN THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE TIME AND DATE THAT THE OUTCO OUTDOOR PATROL AND CLEANUP OCCURRED, INCLUDING THE NAME OF THE STAFF MEMBER RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST THE TWO PREVIOUS MONTHS.
SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT ALLOWS US TO CHECK THEIR RECORDS AND MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
HAVE ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZANIA.
AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER COPELAND.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING? I SEE THERE'S, IT'S A PD, BUT WHAT IS IT ALL ZONED FOR WITHIN THAT PD? SO THE PD 360 4 ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
IS THIS CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL? YES.
SO WHY HAS IT COME INTO US AS A, UH, SUP? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE 24 HOURS AND THE NECESSARY OUTDOOR OPERATIONS.
UM, SO THAT OUTDOOR TRIGGERS THAT SUP AND STAFF REVIEWED THEIR PROPOSAL AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH THOSE, THOSE FOUR, FOUR CONDITIONS.
SAVANNAH, WHAT IS THE OUTDOOR FENCING GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SO THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY OUTDOOR FENCING.
SO THEY'RE GONNA WALK AND EXERCISE THE DOGS OUTSIDE WITH, DO THEY OWN THE LAND BEHIND THEM? SO THE, THE, IF YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN ON THE SCREEN, THE BOLD IS THE, THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THERE'S AN AREA TO THE NORTH RIGHT THERE THAT THEY'LL HAVE IN THEIR, ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT IS SOMEWHAT CREEK AREA.
UH, THE, THE AERIAL OR THE PICTURE THAT SAVANNAH HAD, UM, UP ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, KIND OF.
SO, SO THEY DO OR DON'T OWN THAT THEY DON'T OWN THE CREEK, BUT THEY OWN IT SLOPES OFF IN THAT AREA.
SO THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING THERE THAT THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO EXERCISE ANIMALS IN THAT NON FENCED AREA.
THEY'RE GONNA CROSS THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THAT GRASSY AREA FIRST.
WHERE PATRONS MIGHT BE PARKING THEIR CARS MM-HMM
FROM THE OTHER BUSINESS THAT OCCUPIES THAT BUILDING, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO WALK THAT TWICE
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A DAY.AND THEY'RE GONNA BE CLEANING UP ALSO.
I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY STRINGENT ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF FENCES AROUND THE DAYCARE TO KEEP DOGS FROM GETTING INTO THE DAYCARES.
I MEAN, COUNCILMAN LOPEZ DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THAT.
YEARS OUT, HAD THE DOGS OUT WITHOUT A LEASH.
I I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY, EVEN IF THEY HAD A FENCED IN AREA, THEY COULD TAKE THE DOGS OR WALK OUTSIDE OF THE FENCED IN AREA AND IT'S, IT'S, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT MORE AS A VETERINARIAN CLINIC, NOT A BOARDING.
IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A BOARDING.
I WOULD THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT STRICTER IF IT WAS A BOARDING.
SAVANNAH IS MAN'S BEST FRIEND.
IS THAT DEFINED A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE TELLING US IT'S A VETERINARIAN CLINIC? IS IT DEFINED DIFFERENT FROM BOARDING? I, WE HAVE VETERINARIAN WITH OUTDOOR KENNEL, UM, VETERINARIAN WITH INDOOR KENNEL AND I CAN'T BELIEVE REMEMBER THE, THE THIRD CLASSIFICATION.
BUT THERE ARE SOME NUANCES BETWEEN THE THREE.
BUT IF A, A BOARDING PLACE ISN'T A VETERINARIAN, THE YOU CAN CORRECT, LIKE MAN'S BEST FRIEND WAS ABOR.
AND, AND THE ANIMALS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS REQUIREMENTS UNDER A VETERINARY CLINIC.
AND AND THAT WAS HIS QUESTION.
NOT THE DIFFERENCE WITH THREE VETERINARY CLINICS.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A VETERINARY CLINIC AND A BOARDING.
WELL, WHY, WHY IS, WHY IS THIS EVEN BEING BROUGHT TO US? TO US? I MEAN, BECAUSE NOW I HAVE AN ISSUE THAT IT'S NOT FENCED AS OPPOSED TO THE, THE PROCESS OF A, OF A VETERINARIAN CLINIC JUST WALKING THEIR DOGS OUTSIDE.
I MEAN, WHY, WHY ARE THEY NEEDING OUR PERMISSION TO DO THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAUSE OF THE, THE 24 HOURS AND THE NATURE THAT THERE WILL BE OUTSIDE ACTIVITY.
UH, THEIR ORIGINAL, IT'S A STAFF CALL AND NOT THEIRS.
AND THEIR ORIGINAL APPLICATION DID HAVE A FENCED AREA IN THIS PARKING ISLAND, UH, RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN.
BUT THEY HAD SINCE REMOVED THAT.
UM, AND IT MAY BE OBVIOUS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A VETERINARIANS AND NOT A BOARDING, WILL SOME OF THE ANIMALS STAY 24 HOURS OVERNIGHT A BET? SO, YEAH.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME BOARDING GOING ON.
JUST NOT, THERE'LL BE SOME OVERNIGHT STAYS JUST LIKE IN A, YEAH.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK? YES.
UH, ALONG THE LINES OF COUNCIL MEMBER COPELAND WHERE, UH, HALF THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE FOR VETERINARIAN, THE OTHER HALF COULD POTENTIALLY BE A DAYCARE, IS THAT CORRECT? COULD POTENTIALLY, COULD POTENTIALLY.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING POTENTIALLY YOU CAN COME BACK FOR A DAYCARE.
SO, UH, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE DOG WALKING.
UH, I JUST DON'T SEE IN THE LOCATION AS A GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT.
SO, UH, EXCEPT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO TALK ABOUT.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OH, JUST WANTED TALK MORE.
WE'LL CALL YOU UP IN A MINUTE.
TALK MORE ABOUT THEIR PROJECT YEAH.
AND WHY THEY THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION.
I'LL WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THEM.
SO SAVANNAH, UM, NEXT TO JAKE'S, WE HAVE A SIMILAR ANIMAL CLINIC RIGHT IN THE HEART CORNER.
AND DO WE KNOW IF THAT CLINIC CURRENTLY HAS ANY ANIMALS THAT STAY OVERNIGHT? I, I DO NOT KNOW.
I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THEIR, THEIR OPERATIONS.
I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER IT COMING TO US.
AND THEN THE, EITHER THE PETCO OR THE PET SMART THAT'S ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, SOME OF THEM OFFER BOARDING.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO, DO WE KNOW OF THAT LOCATION AS A BOARDING PROCESS OR I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES.
I, AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO TO PULL UP THEIR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THEIR OPERATIONS.
IN THAT CASE, THE, THE BOARDING WOULD BE AN ANCILLARY OR ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY
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RETAIL, WHICH IS YEAH, BUT TO OUR PROBLEM IF IT HAS BOARDING WITHOUT A FENCE, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS WE HAVE AT THIS ONE.SO IF THE PETCO HAS BOARDING BUT DIDN'T REQUIRE AN SUP, IT KIND OF GETS BACK TO THE QUE I MEAN, YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER COPELAND AND TO THE ONE NEXT TO JAKE'S, I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER WE, UM, YEAH, I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A CLINIC OR EMERGENCY CLINIC OR SOMETHING.
BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE OVERNIGHT STAYS OR NOT.
YOU WOULD THINK THEY'D HAVE TO.
AND THEN THE 24 HOURS, IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S 24 HOURS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR NOT SO MUCH THAT THE ANIMALS ARE THERE 24 HOURS? RIGHT.
ANIMALS COULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE 24 TO 48 HOURS AND WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT.
EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, I I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO TABLE IT, BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THIS BRINGS UP ABOUT THE OTHER PLACES THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.
IT MAY BE BEST FOR US TO LOOK 'CAUSE WE, TO BE FAIR, IF WE'VE, IF IF THE ONE THEREBY JAKE'S IS EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT WE DIDN'T, MAYBE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE PLACED ON THEM.
SAME AS THE PETCO OR WHATEVER IT IS.
IF JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT'S AN INSULATORY DEAL, IF THEY'RE KEEPING 'EM OVERNIGHT, IT WOULD, TO ME IT'D FALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEDDEN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, Y'ALL DIDN'T YOU BOTH GET CARDS? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WHICH ONE OF YOU COMES UP FIRST.
JUST COME ON DOWN AND UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, AND MEGAN WILL MARK YOU OFF THE LIST HERE.
I ACTUALLY WORK FOR VETERINARY EMERGENCY GROUP.
SO, UM, JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS EARLIER AND KIND OF WHAT'S UP THERE.
SO THERE ARE NO SPACE, NO BOARDINGS, NO VACCINES, NO NEEDLES OF ANY KIND.
THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT STAY OVERNIGHT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER THE CARE OF A DOCTOR AT ALL TIMES.
SO THE UNFORTUNATE NATURE OF OUR YOUTH IS ANYONE THAT COMES TO US IS LIKE THICK.
SO THERE IS NO OUTDOOR PLAYING.
THERE IS NO OUTDOOR KENNELS, THERE IS NO BOARDING OF ANY KIND.
IF AN ANIMAL DOES GO OUTSIDE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY VERY RARE BECAUSE MOST ANIMALS ARE WITH US ONE TO FOUR HOURS MAX.
AND THE ONES THAT USUALLY ARE OVERNIGHT ARE TOO SICK TO GO OUTSIDE.
THE ONES THAT DO GO OUTSIDE ARE DOUBLE LEACHED.
THEY GO OUT, THEY GET PICKED UP AND THAT'S IT.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER? VOKI? SO JUST FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE IT'S A CLINIC.
WHEN THEY DO GO OUTSIDE, IT'S MORE JUST FOR REHAB.
IT'S SIMPLY TO USE THE RESTROOM.
SO LET'S SAY A DOG COMES IN AND HE HAPPENS TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUTSIDE HIS OWNER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR FOUR OR FIVE HOURS, YOU HAVE TO GO, THEY WALK OUTSIDE, DOUBLE LEASH, GO TO THE BATHROOM, THEY PICK IT UP, THEY GO INSIDE.
THEY'RE OUTSIDE MAYBE FOR TWO MINUTES MAX.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH YOUR PET TO OUTSIDE OF PETCO OR A RESTAURANT OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S ONE OUTSIDE.
SO IF AN ANIMAL, A DOG WENT IN THERE FOR SURGERY, JUST PART OF THE REHAB IS TAKE IT OUT, STRETCH IT.
SO THERE'S NO REHAB WHATSOEVER.
AGAIN, MOST ANIMALS THAT COME TO US ARE THEIR MAX ONE TO FOUR HOURS.
LET'S SAY LIKE THEY BROKE THEIR TOENAIL, THEN YOU GET STITCHED UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE ONES THAT DO ARE HIT BY A CAR AND THERE'S SURGERY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE EITHER.
THEY ARE THERE OVERNIGHT, BUT THEY'RE UNDER THE CARE OF MANY DOCTORS AND NURSES AND THEY'RE TOO SICK TO GO OUTSIDE.
WE HAVE 47 HOSPITALS OPEN AROUND THE US OPENING 30 MORE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
A HANDFUL OF OUR HOSPITALS ACTUALLY HAVE A FENCED AND RELIEF BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
IT'S SIMPLY IF THE DOG CAN GO OUTSIDE 'CAUSE THEY'RE WELL ENOUGH TO GOOT, GREAT.
IT'S LITERALLY, IT'S MAX TWO MINUTES IN AND OUT AND THAT'S IT.
THEY'RE NOT WALKING THEM EVEN AROUND.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, IT'S NOT A BOARDING NO, BUT DOCTORS WILL KEEP A PET THERE 24 TO 48 HOURS.
THEY'RE ONLY THERE IF THEY MUST BE UNDER THE CARE OF A DOCTOR.
LIKE THEY'RE RECOVERING FROM A SERIOUS SURGERY WHERE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS TO GO HOME.
BUT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY UNDER THE CARE OF A DOCTOR AT ALL TIMES.
A PERSON CAN'T BE LIKE, HEY, HERE'S MY ANIMAL, LEAVE THEM AND THEN COME BACK TWO DAYS LATER ON VACATION.
THEY'RE ONLY THERE WHILE THEY MUST BE TREATED AND THEN THEY'RE TAKEN AWAY.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE A HOSPITAL, A DOCTOR, IT'S A HOSPITAL.
A DOCTOR DOESN'T SIT THERE WITH A PATIENT 24 HOURS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YES, BUT OUR HOSPITAL IS BUILT TO WHERE IT'S AN OPEN CONCEPT SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PATIENTS IN THE AREA.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT STAYING VERY LONG.
SO THEY'RE CONSTANTLY UNDER THE CARE OF SOMEBODY.
LET'S SAY THEY JUST HAD SURGERY AND THEY'RE RECOVERING FROM ANESTHESIA, THEY'RE KIND OF JUST QUIETLY OVER THERE.
BUT THERE IS NO BOARDING AND NO ANYTHING ELSE.
YEAH, I'M NOT I AGREE WITH YOU.
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YEAH.BUT I ALSO SEE THAT THERE IS UH, SOME TYPE OF OVERNIGHT STAYS FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS BECAUSE OF MAJOR SURGERY FOR AN ANIMAL.
UH, MY, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FAIR TO ALL THESE TYPE OF VETERINARY BUSINESSES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
WE DON'T COMPETE WITH THE ACTUAL, UM, VETERINARY PRACTICES, NOT COMPETITION.
BUT IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO GET A FENCE AND THE OTHER ONES, THEN WE DON'T NEED A FENCE.
WE'RE NOT APPLYING FOR THE FENCE.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO APPLY FOR THE HOURS.
BUT WE'RE
SO IF WE DECIDE YOU WANT A FENCE TO GET THIS, WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO YOU? AND WE DIDN'T REQUIRE FOR THE OTHER ONES.
WOULD IT BE FAIR FOR YOU TO SAY TO, IN ORDER FOR YOU, US TO APPROVE THIS SUP, YOU MUST DO AN EIGHT FOOT RETAINING WALL FENCE, WHATEVER.
AND BUT WE THEN WE DIDN'T REQUIRE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THAT'S FOR US TO DECIDE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I THINK WE KNOW WHAT YOUR REQUIREMENTS ARE AND HOW OFTEN YOU'RE GONNA BE TAKING 'EM OUT.
AND I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
I, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAIR.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT A RULE ON YOU THAT WE HAVEN'T PUT ON SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I DO THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW.
BUT I'M, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THIS QUESTION.
UH, RESTAURANTS, BUSINESSES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH HUMAN BEINGS, WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A RESTROOM.
WE DON'T JUST TELL THE PATRONS TO GO OUT BACK.
OKAY? SO I'M OF THE OPINION THAT, THAT THIS HAS BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE NEVER LOOKED AT BEFORE.
AND IF YOU ARE SERVICING AN ANIMAL POPULATION, THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A ROOM INSIDE THERE THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE RESTROOM BACK THERE AND THEN YOU WASH IT DOWN AND DRAIN.
UH, AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY OPINION TONIGHT IS, UH, I'M GONNA SAY NO, BUT I WOULD MUCH PREFER A TABLE.
BUT I DO THINK THAT AS A CITY, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND, AND LOOK AT ALL, LOOK AT ALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH ANIMALS AND JUST LIKE A RESTAURANT THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH HUMANS REQUIRE THAT THOSE FACILITIES BE INSIDE THE BUSINESS AND NOT OUTSIDE.
I THINK I'M, I'M OKAY WITH APPROVING THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT DOES RAISE SOME ISSUES.
I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE TABLING IT AND LET STAFF DO A LITTLE BIT MORE INVESTIGATION.
WE'VE RAISED SOME ISSUES THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD REALLY, AND I'D LIKE TO, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HEADON? IT IS.
SO I, I, UM, YEAH, I HAD REALLY ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS THEY HAD.
SO BEING THE LAST ONE, THEY'VE KIND OF ALL BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, BUT I GUESS THE ONE LAST ONE I HAD IS HOW MANY ANIMALS, WHAT'S THE CAPACITY THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN THERE AT ONCE? IT VARIES.
I THINK BECAUSE WE ARE 24 HOURS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE ONE, IT CAN BE FIVE.
UM, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE DAY.
AGAIN, MOST ANIMALS THAT COME TO US ARE THERE, LET'S SAY LIKE ONE HOUR, TWO HOURS MAX.
I'D SAY IT'S PROBABLY 90% OF OUR PATIENTS ARE THERE IN THAT TIME.
AND SO IF SOMEONE KIND OF COMES IN, USUALLY IF SOMEONE ELSE COMING IN, IT'S USUALLY KIND OF A NICE FLOW.
OUR HOSPITALS ARE NEVER OVERRUN.
PART OF LIKE WHAT WE DO, WHICH IS SO SPECIAL, IS THAT WHEN YOU COME IN, PART OF WHO WE ARE IS YOU SEE A DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY.
YOU WALK RIGHT INTO THE HOSPITAL, YOU KIND OF SEE LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND THAT'S KIND OF PART OF HOW WE DO THINGS.
AND WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF AND EVERYONE THERE TO KIND OF KEEP THAT FLOW GOING.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT A GP SO WE DON'T, OR LIKE A SPECIALTY.
SO WE ONLY DO ER AND HONESTLY OUR BUSIEST HOURS TEND TO BE LATER IN THE EVENING BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OR LIKE EARLY IN THE MORNING, NOT VERY MANY OF THE OPEN.
OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE HOME WITH YOUR PET OR THE WEEKENDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO IT'S NEVER REALLY A DISTURBANCE TO ANYBODY.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE LOCATED IN THE BASES OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
WE'RE LOCATED IN MASSIVE CENTERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 47 HOSPITALS.
A HANDFUL HAVE AN OUTDOOR AREA BECAUSE VERY FEW ACTUALLY EVER GO OUTSIDE.
ALL OUR ACTUAL PRACTICES ARE INSIDE THE HOSPITAL.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS INDOORS EXCEPT FOR BATHROOMS. I WAS GONNA SAY SOME OF YOUR FACILITIES HAVE AT THE OTHER 47 LOCATIONS, HAVE ANY OF THEM DONE INDOOR BATHROOMS, BATHROOM FACILITIES, INDOOR? NO, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT.
UM, THIS ACTUALLY IS THE FIRST TIME THIS KIND OF THING HAS REALLY BECOME A THING.
UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE TO US AS IF YOU ARE TAKING YOUR PET TO A RESTAURANT OR A PET CO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
'CAUSE WE COULD TAKE OUR PETS TO THE RESTROOM AND WE COULD TAKE 'EM OUTSIDE.
I JUST THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TONIGHT, AND ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE ONES THAT JAKE'S AND PETCO, I THINK RIGHT NOW WOULD BE BEST IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO TASTE.
I DO DISAGREE BECAUSE RESTAURANTS ARE NOT DESIGNED JUST TO SERVICE ANIMALS AND THIS IS THE BUSINESS JUST FOR SERVICE.
BUT YOU WOULD AGREE THIS IS RAISED MISUSED.
I, I LIKE THE BUSINESS AND I HOPE I WANT 'EM TO BE HERE AND I WANT IT TO BE FAIR, I THINK.
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DOG ALLOWED OUTSIDE AT ONCE? YES.AND THE ANIMALS DOUBLE LEASH AT ALL TIMES.
ALL OUR HOSPITALS HAVE A DOUBLE VESTIBULE AS WELL.
SO BECAUSE WE ARE 24 7, YOU GET BUZZED INTO BOTH DOORS.
SAFETY OF BOTH OUR ANIMALS, OUR PATIENTS, AND OUR DOCTORS IS NUMBER ONE TO US.
WE'RE I'M SURE Y'ALL RUN A GOOD FACILITY.
IT'S JUST RAISED SOME OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD.
ARE YOU FINALLY FINISHED WITH HER QUESTIONS? NO MORE QUESTIONS.
JOSE GONZALEZ SUPPORTS THIS ITEM.
AND, UH, DAVID, UH, Y LIKE TO SPEAK.
I SAW YOU GET UP TO GO FILL OUT THE CARD.
YEAH, I JUST FELT LIKE I HAD TO SAY SOMETHING.
I THINK WE'RE OVERCOMPLICATING THIS A LITTLE BIT.
WE MAY BE
SO I THINK IT MAY BE THE BEST FOR US TO SIT ON IT AND GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
UM, TO YOUR POINT, MR. COPELAND, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, MOTHER NATURE CAN TAKE CARE OF, UH, WHATEVER, UM, FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOGS OR THE ANIMALS USE.
I THINK HER POINT WAS JUST LIKE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THEIR ANIMALS AT HOME, YOU DON'T HAVE A, A RESTROOM FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR DOG.
YOU, YOU TAKE IT OUTSIDE AND, UM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING VERY S SPECIALIZED AND SMALL SCALE.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REALLY JUMP THROUGH HOOPS FOR THEM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
IT'D BE A GOOD REVENUE STREAM FOR THE CITY, HAVING THEM DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK IT'D BE IDEAL NOT TO OVERCOMPLICATE IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZANU, I HAD A QUESTION FROM YOU.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR CLARIFICATION.
SIR, ARE YOU PARTNERED WITH THIS ENTITY, THIS BUSINESS? I AM NOT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR THE APPLICANT IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME BACK UP.
YEAH, I GOT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, ANSWERS EARLIER.
I'M CURIOUS ANIMAL HOSPITALS THAT TAKE I GUESS INPATIENT ANIMALS AND HAVE SURGERIES AND ALL THAT, DO THEY GENERALLY HAVE RESTROOMS FOR PETS? NOT INDOORS.
DO THEY HAVE OUTHOUSES OR JUST THEY LET 'EM AT MOST PEOPLE OPERATE THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO.
AGAIN, THE UNFORTUNATE NATURE OF, I SAY UNFORTUNATE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WHEN ANIMAL COMES TO US MM-HMM
THEY'RE NOT EXCITED, THEY'RE NOT UPBEAT, THEY'RE NOT ENERGETIC, THEY'RE SICK AND THEY'RE HURT.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE USUALLY NOT ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE.
SO IT'S VERY RARE AN ANIMAL ACTUALLY EVEN GOES TO GET WALKED OUTSIDE.
IF THEY DO, YOU SEE LIKE LITTLE GRASS RIGHT THERE, THEY'D BE DOUBLE LEAVES TO WALK.
THEY'D BE IN OUT IN TWO SECONDS IF THEY CAN WALK, THEY PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN WALK THAT LONG.
SO WE'RE NOT LIKE A, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT A REGULAR FACILITY WHERE THESE ANIMALS ARE LOUD AND BARKING OR JET AND NEED TO RUN AROUND.
IF THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE, THESE ARE SICK, WHICH IS RARE.
IT'S SIMPLY JUST TO RELIEVE REALLY QUICKLY AND COME BACK IN.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT THERE USUALLY VERY LONG UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN UNFORTUNATELY HIT BY A CAR HAVING VERY SERIOUS SURGERY.
WHICH CASE AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT OUTSIDE AND PROBABLY MOST FACILITIES HAVE, THEY'RE EITHER SINGLE BUILDINGS.
THIS IS JUST AN ODD LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S GOT PARKING ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
I WILL TELL YOU ACTUALLY, QUITE A FEW OF OUR LOCATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE BUILT LIKE THIS AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GROWING TREND.
BECAUSE I'D RATHER IT BE A VET CLINIC THAN A LIQUOR STORE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T GET TO PICK.
BECAUSE WHAT WE SOMETIMES DO, WE, SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND FI YOU STILL HAVE IT BEFORE.
HOW OFTEN ARE Y'ALL CLEANING? I GUESS THE GRASS TO MAKE SURE THAT FE SEES A SECOND.
SOMEBODY GOES OUTSIDE, IT'S PICKED UP RIGHT AWAY.
I THINK THE KEY THING HERE IS, UM, THAT Y'ALL DON'T OWE THE LAND.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS YOU'RE JUST PUTTING DROPPINGS ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND.
THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE, WELL WE OWN THAT PROPERTY.
BUT I THINK FOR US IS JUST BEING CONSIDERATE OF THE NEIGHBORS.
THE OTHER OCCUPANTS IN THE BUILDING, THEY'RE PARKING AND YOU GOT THIS GREYHOUND OUT THERE, BIG DOG DROPPING.
RIGHT HERE IN THIS, IN THIS PHOTO HERE.
AS YOU SAY, IF SOMETHING WAS THAT TO HAPPEN, IT'S THAT Y'ALL DON'T HAVE THE LAND.
YOU DON'T OWN THE LAND TO DO THAT.
IF, IF Y'ALL DID THAT, IT, I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE MUCH OF A PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S JUST BEING RESPECTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS.
AGAIN, WE ARE LEASING THE SLANT TOO AND WE ARE LEASING THIS PROPERTY AND TO US, LIKE WE TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF EVERYWHERE THAT WE ARE.
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I SAID, THE SECOND ANIMAL WOULD GO OUTSIDE, LET SEE THAT GREYHOUND.THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE TO WHAT WE DO THEN ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD TAKE A PET AND WALK TO ANY STORE OR ANYWHERE AROUND THE CITY OR IN TOWN OR WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING.
BUT YOU PICK IT UP RIGHT AWAY.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO DIFFERENCE THAT NOPE.
YOU KNOW, PET OWNERS AREN'T OWNING THE LAND THAT THEY'RE SHOPPING AT.
THE ANIMAL GOES AND THEY PICK IT UP.
IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING FOR US.
IN FACT, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE LESS DROPPINGS BY US.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE EITHER NOT THERE LONG ENOUGH OR THEY'RE TOO SICK TO GO OUTSIDE.
AS I SAID, 47 AND IT'S JUST THE PERCEPTION OF IT.
IT'S JUST BEING RESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE LEASING AND, AND THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE COMING IN.
WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS, THAT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BEST INTEREST IN THE COMPANY'S BEST INTEREST.
AND SETTING A PRESIDENT'S FOR FUTURE.
AND MAYBE THE PRESIDENT'S ALREADY BEEN SET BY OTHERS THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST IN, IN Y'ALL'S BEST INTEREST.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE DOGS WOULD GO TO THAT AREA AND WITHIN SECONDS YOU WOULD PICK IT UP.
TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT STARTS TO DETERIORATE.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LANDSCAPING? 'CAUSE YOU'RE LEASING THE LAND.
IS IT YOU OR THE LAND? I BET IT'S THE LANDLORD.
SO YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE LANDLORD TO USE THIS, THIS PIECE HERE TO DO THAT.
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH OUR LANDLORDS AND THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF ALL OF THIS.
EVERY LAND THAT WE, THAT WE TALK TO IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHERE WE WOULD USE.
SO YES, WE SPEAK TO ALL OF THEM.
SO WHO, WHO WILL WE GO TO TO SAY, HEY, THIS LANDSCAPING NEEDS TO BE PICKED BACK UP AGAIN.
THE LAND, NO MATTER WHO'S IN THERE, UHHUH,
SOMETIMES THE LANDSCAPING GOES IN THERE AND IT'S GREAT FOR A YEAR.
AFTER THE YEAR, FORGET ABOUT IT BEING A VET PLACE.
I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH D SHRUBS THAT ARE NEVER REPLACED AND WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT.
SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY, WE WILL VOTE IT UP OR DOWN OR MAYBE WE SETTLE ON IT AND JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THE PLACES THAT JOHN MENTIONED AND OTHERS JUST TO GET A CLARIFICATION.
I'D ENTERTAIN WHATEVER MOTION YOU WANNA MAKE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.
I FEEL FAIRLY COMFORTABLE, BUT I THINK THE, UM, CONCEPT OF PRECEDENT IS IMPORTANT.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER PET PLACE THEY'RE DOING.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO TABLE THIS.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE SECOND.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD STAFF BE LOOKING INTO AS FAR AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE WE'VE APPROVED MM-HMM
LIKE THE OPERATIONAL PLAN 'CAUSE YES.
AND DUDE, DID WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A FENCE? NO.
RIGHT? WHY DIDN'T WE, DID IT COME TO US FOR AN SUP? I THINK THE BIGGEST COMPONENT, I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE RESEARCHING ALL THE LOCATIONS.
THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF THIS IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHERS.
IS THAT THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THE SP? YES.
HEY, WE WE'RE JUST HERE FOR THE 20.
BUT HE DID SECOND DOWN JUNE SUPPORT, SECOND SUPPORT TABLE.
I I I'M OKAY TO VOTE IT UP OR DOWN TONIGHT TOO.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO TABLE.
I'M IN FAVOR OF DENYING THAT MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
RAISE YOUR HAND FOR NAYS ON TWO THREE.
WE DENIED THE MOTION TO TABLE.
I MEAN, I CAN, NO, WE'VE ALREADY DONE DENIED IT TO TABLE.
I MEAN, BUT NOW I CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.
WELL MY INSTINCT, UH, AFTER ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, I THINK IT, THE ANIMALS ARE SICK.
SO I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS LISTED HERE.
SECOND, WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND.
BUT, BUT MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE WE DID OVER COMPLICATE IT.
I JUST, I JUST, BUT HOPE, HOPE THAT WASN'T MY LAST DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCIL.
UH, BUT, BUT MAYOR, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE STAFF.
THE RE THE REASON COUNCILWOMAN IS, IS THAT I WANT TO SUPPORT IT.
IS, IS, IS, IT SOUNDS LOGICAL, BUT I DO THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE, I KNOW THAT WE TRY TO BE VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY HERE AND I
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DON'T THINK WE'RE ADDING THAT MUCH COST TO A TENANT TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF BLACK DRAIN AND A TILE FLOOR AND A, A WASH AREA.YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WE'LL CHECK INTO THAT.
WE NEED TO CHECK INTO, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS LONG ENOUGH TONIGHT GOING FORWARD.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
CITIZEN COMMENTS, HAROLD WILLIS, GET OUTTA HERE BEFORE WE CHANGE YOUR MIND.THIS IS PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT.
TODAY WAS THE FINAL DAY OF THE BATTLE OF MIDWAY IN JUNE 6TH, 1942.
PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT'S LEADERSHIP BY CHOOSING ADMIRAL CHESTER NIMITZ FROM FREDERICK BURGS, TEXAS TO LEAD THAT BATTLE.
LIKE IT SAYS TOGETHER, WE CANNOT FAIL.
JUNE 6TH, 1944 D-DAY INVASION PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT'S LEADERSHIP IN THAT EVENT.
SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CANNOT FORGET, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP OF FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, SO I DON'T WANNA FORGET THIS.
I DON'T WANNA FORGET THE MEN AND WOMEN IN WORLD WAR II.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A PICTURE OF RUTHIE JACKSON STANDING BY A P 51 MUSTANG.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HANGING UP OUT IN THAT LOBBY FOR WHAT SHE DID.
SO JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT AND FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT'S PORTRAIT HUNG IN CROCKETT ELEMENTARY BECAUSE CROCKETT ELEMENTARY WAS A WPA PROGRAM.
SO BEEN LOOKING AT HIM SINCE THE SIXTIES.
AND MY GRANDPARENTS VERY, AND MY SOCIAL SECURITY.
HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT SWAT STANDOFF COUNCILMAN COPELAND.
FRIDAY NIGHT AT 5 51 KESSLER, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I REALIZE WE CAN'T ENGAGE BACK AND FORTH, BUT THAT WAS THE SECOND SWAT STANDOFF AT 5 51.
THAT WAS THE SECOND SWAT STANDOFF IN FIVE YEARS.
THE INDIVIDUAL, I DON'T KNOW, I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS BRANDON MARINO.
I'VE BEEN TOLD BY HIS NAME WAS RAYMOND MARINO.
THIS IS THE PERSON BRANDON MARINO.
IN 2017, HE TOOK TWO HUGE FREEZER BAGS OF METHAMPHETAMINES AND STUCK IN THE STORM SEWER DRAIN AT FRANKLIN AND LINLEY.
THIS IS THE SAME BRANDON MARINO.
I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY OF 2018 WHEN THE OTHER, THE FIVE HOUR SWAT STANDOFF OCCURRED.
THAT WAS BROKEN BY FLYING THE FLASH BANGS GRENADE THAT STABBED HIS FATHER WENT INTO TOM THUMB BLEEDING.
THIS IS THE BRANDON MARINO WHO WALKS UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
HE HAS TATTOOS ON, ON HIS NECK.
NOW HE HAS TATTOOS ON HIS FACE.
OUR PROBLEM IS INVOLVING FRIDAY NIGHT.
MY NEIGHBOR, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ME, SHE CALLED THE NON-EMERGENCY DISPATCH NUMBER AND WAS TOLD THE SITUATION WAS CLEAR.
THERE'S BRANDON MARINO COVERED UP IN DIRT UNDER A FLOWERBED SAYING PLEASE DON'T CALL MINE.
THIS IS AFTER THE POLICE HAD CLEARED THE SCENE.
I'M NOT BASHING THE GRAND PRIX POLICE.
IT'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENED? SHE WAS IN THE HOUSE BY HERSELF WITH HERSELF AND HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER.
HER HUSBAND'S A LAB TECH WORKING NIGHTS.
SHE OPENED THE GATE, LET HIM OUT.
HE RAN OFF INTO THE ESCARPMENT WHERE ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT, HE WAS ARRESTED AND THE ONLY CHARGES WERE FLING.
HE HAS A LONG CRIMINAL HISTORY.
AT 5 51 KESSLER, WE COULD HAVE THE WESTCHESTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PROUDLY PROCLAIM.
THAT'S THE OUTSTANDING DRUG HOUSE FOR 15 YEARS IN A ROW.
THE AMOUNT OF DRUG ACTIVITY THAT IS BEING SOLD.
YES, THERE ARE DRUG HOUSES IN WESTCHESTER.
I GOT A DRUG HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME ON LINLEY.
I GUESS OUR ANGER IS THIS CONTINUES ON AND ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT 4 45 AT THE VALERO STATION AT CAMP WISDOM AND LAKE RIDGE.
I WALK IN, THERE'S BRANDON MORENO AND I HAD TO WAIT FOR A SECOND TO MAKE SURE.
IS THIS HIM? HE HAD THAT SCHIZOPHRENIC STAIR.
HE WAS JUST STARING AT A DISPLAY CASE.
I ASKED THE STAFF PEOPLE, HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN IN HERE? OH, ABOUT AN HOUR.
WHAT'S HE BEEN DOING? JUST SITTING THERE STARING OUT.
HE TURNED AROUND, LOOKED, LOOKED AT ME AND MADE EYE CONTACT.
WHAT TIME IS IT? HE GOT UP AND LEFT.
WHY WAS HE NOT IN JAIL? THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED AT HIM.
IT WAS LIKE A SCENE OUT OF PULP FICTION WITH JOHN TRAVOLTA AND MY COUSIN BRUCE WILLIS.
WHY IN THE HELL AREN'T YOU IN JAIL? YOU RAN FROM THE GRAND PRIX POLICE FRIDAY NIGHT.
YOU DISRUPTED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE COULDN'T EVEN STEP OUT ON OUR SIDEWALK.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS, AND MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW IS FOR CITY MANAGER DIE BECAUSE CITY MANAGER DIE.
YOU WERE POLICE CHIEF WHEN THAT
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SWAT STANDOFF OCCURRED FIVE YEARS AGO.WE'RE ASKING FOR A MEETING WITH DANIEL S THE POLICE CHIEF.
UH, OUR MEMBER COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN COPELAND, SINCE YOU LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS NOW TO PULL THIS IN.
WHY IS THIS PERSON ALLOWED TO ROAM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? IS HE ON PAROLE? WHO IS THIS PERSON? WHAT'S GOING ON? SO IF WE COULD COORDINATE A MEETING AT THE MACK LIBRARY, I'LL WORK WITH YOU, WHATEVER.
BUT, UH, AND ESPECIALLY MY NEIGHBOR AT 5 46 LINLEY, SHE'S VERY ANGRY AND UPSET.
SO ANOTHER EXCITING ADVENTURE WITH OUR DRUG HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.