May 15, 2023 Zoning Board of Adjustment

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS FOR ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 3.

SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION AND LOT WITH VARIANCE.

LOCATED AT 13 30 15 34 AVENUE E.

SO THIS LOT WAS REPLANTED INTO ONE LOT.

SO THEY'RE A DOUBLE SIZED LOT.

THEY WERE REPL IN 1987 SO THAT THE MAIN HOUSE CAN USE THE EXTRA SPACE FOR THEIR, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, CARPORT AND ACCESS FOR GARAGE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, THE CURRENT OWNER DESIRES TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE LOT BACK INTO TWO, BE ABLE TO SELL OFF THE OTHER LOT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY DID, UM, ASK FOR SIMILAR VARIANCES BACK IN 2021, WHICH WAS DENIED BY ONE BILL BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GARAGE CONVERSION REQUIRING TWO PAY PARKS PARKING SPACE, WHICH AT THAT TIME I DON'T THINK THEY WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED.

SO WITH THAT SAID, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED THE NEW DOUBLE WIDTH DRIVEWAY.

THEY CAN PARK EASILY TO CARS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THIS AVENUE E IS NOT A FULLY DEVELOPED STREET.

MEANING, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IN YOUR SUBDIVISION YOU'LL SEE A SIX INCH CURVE AND THERE'S ROOM FOR CARS TO BE PARKED NEXT TO THOSE CURB.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE A CONDITION WHERE, I'M SORRY, , THEY HAVE THESE, UM, DITCH.

SO THE DRIVE WELL WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE, YEAH.

SO IN THIS CASE, ACTUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THOSE PHOTOS, OTHER PLA OTHER HOUSES IN THE BACK, THEY HAVE DOUBLE WIDTH DRIVEWAYS WHERE THERE ARE PARKING THREE FOUR CARS AND THAT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG THAT.

SO WITH THAT, STEPH DOES NOT OPPOSE THIS REQUEST.

HOWEVER, UM, RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING THE CONDITION, WHICH IS THAT THE LOT SHALL BE PLANTED, ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURAL SHALL BE REMOVED FOR PLANNING.

ANY QUESTION FOR STEPH? SO THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS NOW THEY HAVE THE DOUBLE, DOUBLE WIDE PARKING SPACE ON THERE.

AND IF WE WERE TO APPROVE, WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION THOSE TWO STAFF RECOMMENDED THINGS ABOUT LIGHTING IS MOVING THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? OKAY, HOW ABOUT TO MY LEFT? NOPE.

MOVING ALONG, THANK.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST LOCATED AT 2 0 1 NORTHWEST 15TH STREET.

SO THIS IS A, UM, A TRUE HARDSHIP CASE.

SO IF YOU CAN LOOK IN LOCATION MAP, WHICH IS AN ORIGINALLY PLOTTED LOT FROM DALWORTH PARK, THIS IS A, A PLA THAT'S FROM LIKE THE 1930S.

AND SO THEY WERE PLOTTED AS 25 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

AND SO THIS IS A LEGALLY PLOTTED LOT, BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY

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HOME.

AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY'RE HAVING TO COME IN AND REQUEST MULTIPLE SPECIAL, UH, MULTIPLE VARIANCES IN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

SO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS TO REDUCE THE OFF STREET PARKING.

OUR UDC CALLS FOR TWO GARAGE PARKING SPACES.

THEY'RE WANTING TO REDUCE IT TO ONE.

UM, BUT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE AGREED TO SUPPLY TWO DRIVEWAY PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE UDC TO GET THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE IN THE FRONT SETBACK.

UH, IT'S REQUIRED 25 FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 20 FEET, UM, A VARIANCE ON THE REDUCTION OF THE SIDE SETBACK ON THE STREET.

SO ON THE STREET IT REQUIRES 15 FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE AND THE REDUCTION ON THE INTERNAL SIDE SETBACK.

SO THAT SIDE SETBACK TO THE NORTH, UM, WHAT IS REQUIRED IS SIX, THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE.

SO THIS IS THEIR SITE PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE GOT THE CONCRETE DRIVE, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE 18 BY UM, NINE STANDARDS.

UM, THEY HAVE THE SIDEWALK CONNECTING AND THEY'RE DOING A ONE CAR GARAGE THERE.

IT'S A TWO STORY RESIDENCE.

SO THIS IS A LOT, IT'S PRETTY TIGHT LOT, BUT APPARENTLY THE APPLICANT HAS ACTUALLY DONE THIS BEFORE IN DALLAS.

SO 46 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

THERE'S NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

ONE QUESTION ON MY PART, SO THIS THING'S ONLY 25 FOOT WIDE, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WAS PLOTTED AND SET UP AS.

AND SO IN THE D WORTH PARK AREA, MOST OF THOSE HOUSES OUT THERE, THEY HAVE COMBINED TWO LOTS.

UM, BUT THIS IS STILL THE ORIGINAL LOT LINES WHICH RIGHT.

WE DO RESPECT.

AND SO STAFF'S SUPPORTING THE DOES NOT OBJECT.

WE DON'T OPPOSE.

BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE LOT.

OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A BONUS LOT.

BUT NOBODY, IT'S GONNA BE AN 18 FOOT WIDE HOUSE.

SO THE HOUSE ITSELF IS 17 FEET, THE DRIVEWAY IS GONNA BE SLIGHTLY LARGER SO IT CAN MEET OUR STANDARDS.

BUT IT'S TWO STORY.

YEAH, IT'S TWO STORY.

HMM.

IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING ON THAT LOT, I THINK EXACTLY THE WAY IT'S BUILT.

HELLO? THERE YOU GO.

OH, AND ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE, WE SPOKE OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEY RECOMMENDED GOING FROM THE ALLEY IN THE BACK FOR THE DRIVEWAY.

THAT WAY THEY CAN GET THE DRIVEWAY SPACE, BUT THEY'RE NOT HAVING ANY EXTRA, UM, DRIVEWAYS OFF OF NORTHWEST DALLAS STREET OR UM, NORTHWEST 15TH STREET TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION.

NOW IS THAT ON THEIR, THEIR PLAN RIGHT NOW OR IS IT YEP, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THEIR PLAN.

OKAY, COOL.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE ALLEY AND THE, IT'S GO THE DRIVEWAY'S OFF THE ALLEY IN THE BACK.

THE, THE TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDS ALLEY ACCESS ANYWAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, CLAYTON? CLAYTON? YES.

UH, YOU SAY THEY AGREED TO PROVIDE THE TWO PARKING SPACES? MM-HMM.

SHOULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION? YES.

AND I MEANT TO ADD IT AS A CONDITION AND I FORGOT, BUT YES, I WOULD RECOMMEND US ADDING A CONDITION THEY'VE AGREED TO ADD IT.

IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS ALSO AWARE THAT THIS IS WELL, YEP.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 8.

THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

IT'S LOCATED UH, 2 4 2 6 MILLER STREET.

SO THIS ONE, THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE VARIANCES TO BUILD THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO THEY'RE INCREASING THE MAX.

THEY'RE REQUESTING OR INCREASE FOR THE, IN MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE FROM 50% TO 56%, AN INCREASE TO THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 25 FEET TO 27 FEET.

ONE INCH REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET REDUCTION AT THE SIDE SETBACK FROM SIX FEET TO FIVE FEET ON BOTH SIDES.

AND A REDUCTION OF THE REAR SETBACK FROM 10 FEET TO SIX FEET 11 INCHES.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.

THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.

AND THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

SO THIS IS THE LOT I BELIEVE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LOT TO THE RIGHT.

UM, BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO SELL IT AS A HOME OR SELL IT TO BE BUILT AS A HOME.

UM, 58 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE.

THAT WAS A TRUE HARDSHIP.

THIS IS A CASE IN WHICH THEY COULD MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS IF NOT MORE, AND SIMPLY ARE CHOOSING TO REQUEST FIVE DIFFERENT VARIANCES TO BUILD THIS HOUSE.

UM, AND THE HOUSE IS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF IT ARE NEWER HOMES.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY OLDER HOMES WHERE THAT'S KIND OF THE NORM.

SO BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO MEET OUR STANDARDS, STAFF WOULD, IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, WAS ABLE TO BRING QUESTIONS.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT, NOTHING AROUND IT EXCEED GETS TO THAT HEIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE TRY TO FIND.

SO NOT ALL OF THEM, SO SOME OF THEM IN THIS AREA ARE OLDER, SO WE COULDN'T FIND BUILDING PERMITS FOR ALL OF THEM.

BUT JUST FROM GOING OUT THERE, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE PITCH ON THE BUILDING ELEVATION, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PITCH.

THIS IS A SINGLE STORY HOME AND IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN THE AVERAGE THAT WE SEE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH GENERALLY DON'T EXCEED 25 FEET.

OKAY,

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QUESTION ABOUT THE UM, UH, SIDE SETBACKS 'CAUSE THEY'RE ONE OF VARIANCE ON THE SIDE SETBACKS, RIGHT? YES.

IT LOOKED LIKE FROM THE PICTURES THAT OTHER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE PRETTY TIGHT TO THE FENCES.

AND IT'S THE SIDE SETBACK.

ONE FOOT STAFF IS NOT AS CONCERNED.

IT'S REALLY THE FRONT AND THE REAR BECAUSE ALL THREE OF THE SIDES REQUIRING SETBACKS IS ALSO FORCING THEM OVER THEIR LOT COVERAGE AS WELL.

UM, WHICH IS TRIGGERING THAT VARIANCE AS WELL.

SO ONE FOOT SETBACK ON THE SIDES IS LESS CONCERNING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IN ZBA.

UM, BUT THE FRONT AND REAR STAFF FEELS THAT YOU COULD MEET THAT AND THAT WOULD ALSO THEN NO LONGER REQUIRE THE VARIANCE PROBABLY FOR YOUR LOT COVERAGE AS WELL.

AND THE OTHER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASICALLY COMPLY WITH FRONT REAR SETBACKS.

YEAH, FOR THE MOST PART THEY LOOK LIKE, WHICH WE, AGAIN, WE COULDN'T FIND BUILDING PERMITS FOR A LOT OF THEM, BUT ESPECIALLY LIKE THE REAR SETBACK, SIX FOOT, SIX FEET, 11 INCHES.

SO, 'CAUSE ALSO THEN YOU'RE LIMITING YOUR ABILITY TO EVER DO AN ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE FUTURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 28? SEEING NONE.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SIX ITEMS. 0 0 3 0.

SO ZBA 23 0 4 0 0 3 0 IS AGAIN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCE REQUEST.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 1733 GLEN KEY STREET.

SO THIS IS AN EXISTING CARPORT.

IT WAS BUILT AROUND 2018 I BELIEVE.

UM, THEY WERE CITED BY CODE AND TOLD THEY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND COME IN FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND FOR ZBA SPEC, WHICH IS GONNA TRIGGER ZBA, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE HERE TODAY.

SO IT'S FOR FRONT YARD CARPORT, THEY'RE REQUESTING SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THAT.

UM, A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AREA FROM 500 SQUARE FEET TO 750 SQUARE FEET, INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WIDTH FROM 26 FEET TO 30 FEET, A REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK, FIVE FEET TO ZERO FEET AND A REDUCTION OF THE SITE SETBACK THROUGH FEET, THREE FEET TO ZERO FEET.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE CARPORT OUT THERE.

47 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE UH, ZBA 23 0 4 0 0 3 0 IS REQUESTED DUE TO THE FACT THAT GENERALLY WE DON'T SUPPORT REQUESTS THAT ARE MORE THAN 30% OF WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR CARPORT AREA, WHICH COMES OUT TO 650 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH THIS WELL EXCEEDS THAT AT 750.

UM, AND ADDITIONALLY I WAS UNABLE, I LOOKED THROUGH THE RECORDS WE HAVE FOR SIDE SETBACKS FOR ZBA.

I HAVE NOT SEEN A CASE WHERE ZBA HAS APPROVED ZERO FEET ON SIDE OR FRONT SETBACKS.

SO STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT DUE TO THOSE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.

ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE US TO NUMBER SEVEN.

OKAY, LAST AGENDA.

ITEM ZBA 23 0 4 0 0 2 4.

THEY'RE COMING INTO RE REQUEST.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 1901 WEST ARBOR ROSE DRIVE.

THEY'RE COMING INTO REQUEST AN INCREASE OF A MAXIMUM AREA OF A CARPORT FROM 500 SQUARE FEET TO 760 SQUARE FEET.

INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF A CARPORT, SO FROM 26 FEET TO 40 FEET AND INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT OF AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FROM 12 FEET TO 15 FEET.

SO THIS IS A SITE PLAN.

SO THEY'RE DOING TWO BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE COMING IN FOR.

THEY'RE WANTING TO DO A METAL CARPORT, WHICH IS NUMBER THREE ON THE SITE PLAN.

AND A PROPOSED STILL CANOPY TO COVER A VOLLEYBALL COURT, WHICH IS NUMBER FOUR ON THE SITE PLAN.

THE NEIGHBORS BACK THERE, I BELIEVE IT'S CHAIN LINK FENCES.

SO THESE ARE THE, UH, FLOOR PLANS THEY PROVIDED FOR BOTH OF THOSE STRUCTURES, THE ELEVATIONS FOR BOTH OF THOSE STRUCTURES.

AND THIS IS A, UH, PHOTO OF THE HOUSE.

SO 43 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO FOUR WERE RETURN OPPOSED.

THERE'S NOT AN HOA UM, THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

UM, JUST DO, SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS LOCATION MAP, THEY, THIS IS THE ONLY LOT OF THAT SIZE IN THAT AREA.

NO OTHER BUILD OR NO OTHER PROPERTY OWNER IN THE AREA COULD BUILD ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THIS SIZE.

IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF THIS UNIQUE LOT SIZE THEY HAVE.

AND SO IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH ANY OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN ANY OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING 760 SQUARE FOOT CARP OR CARPORT, WHICH WELL EXCEEDS THE 650 THAT STAFF IS USUALLY COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING.

AND AGAIN, AND SO WE DO HAVE FOUR LETTERS THAT WERE, UM, OPPOSED.

AND MANY OF THEM WERE WRITTEN AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE SHEER SIZE.

'CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING LARGE WAREHOUSE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE TWO PROPOSED STRUCTURES.

IS A WAREHOUSE THERE ON THAT PROPERTY? UH, YEAH, IT'S LIKE A METAL WAREHOUSE.

IT'S EXISTING AND IT WAS LEGALLY PERMITTED.

SO IT'S NUMBER TWO ON HERE.

AND IF YOU, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THIS PHOTO, BUT THERE IS NOT GREAT SCREENING BACK THERE.

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SO THERE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE WELL SCREENED AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE THERE IS AN EASEMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR YARD DUE TO, UM, YEAH.

ELECTRICAL WIRES OUT THERE.

SO.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE.

TIMOTHY, GO AHEAD SIR.

MIC ON.

WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT THE FOUR PEOPLE OPPOSED? BECAUSE OF THE SIZE? WHY? I THINK BECAUSE A, IT'S NOT WELL SCREENED SO THEY CAN SEE IT.

UM, AND BI THINK THEY'RE WORRIED FROM WHAT I COULD READ ON ONE OF THEM, I, I NOT A MIND READER, BUT ONE OF THEM JUST MENTIONED THAT IT FELT A LITTLE MORE LIKE COMMERCIAL SIZED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SEE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THEY'RE RATHER LARGE FOR RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

AND ONE OF THEM IS A COVERED VOLLEYBALL COURT.

SO THE STEEL CANOPY IS GONNA BE FOR A VOLLEYBALL COURT.

HOW HIGH IS THAT GONNA BE? 15 FEET.

SO THAT'S THEIR, THEY'RE COMING IN FOR VARIANCE REQUEST.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ISN'T THE 19 FEET AND THEIR WALL HEIGHT IS 15 FEET? OH YEAH.

EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY.

THE WALL HEIGHT'S 15 FEET, BUT THE OVERALL HEIGHT IS 19 FEET.

BUT THEY DON'T REQUEST IT.

THEY DON'T REQUIRE VARIANCE FOR THAT.

'CAUSE YOU CAN GO UP TO 22 FEET TOTAL.

BUT WALL HEIGHT CANNOT BE MORE THAN 12 FEET.

AND THEY'RE PUTTING THIS ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK, RIGHT? YES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR SITE PLAN AND I'M, I'M JUST ASKING YEAH, THEIR HOUSE IS NUMBER ONE.

YEAH, HOUSE IS NUMBER ONE NUMBER.

YOU CAN SEE THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

THAT'S THEIR REAR PROPERTY LINE.

IT'S THE PREEXISTING NUMBER.

TWO'S ALREADY THERE.

NUMBER TWO'S EXISTING.

AND SO NUMBER FOUR IS GONNA BE THE THIS, THE NUMBER FOUR IS GONNA BE THE SEAL CANOPY FOR THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

AND NUMBER THREE IS TWO.

IS THE METAL CARPORT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? THANK YOU MS. ROGERS.

UM, ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GONNA AHEAD AND CALL IT ADJOURNED AND HAVE ABOUT A TWO MINUTE COMFORT BREAK JUST IN CASE ANYONE SHOULD NEED ONE.

THIS CONCLUDES THE STAFF BRIEFING.

WE'LL ADJOURN UNTIL SIX FOR THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH IS IN ONE MINUTE MINUTE.

BUT IF ANYONE NEEDS A COMFORT BREAK AND IT'LL JUST GIVE STAFF A CHANCE TO ORGANIZE.

WE'RE NOT MISS ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE HERE.

DAVID SAID YES.

CONFIRMATION TIMOTHY HERE IS THANK YOU MELINDA FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU MELINDA.

MUCH APPRECIATED.

SO WE MAY ROLL WITH EIGHT BUT WE CAN LEGALLY ROLL WITH EIGHT AND I'LL JUST DO MY, MY PART.

THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING OF MAY 15TH, 2023.

WELCOME TO

[Call to Order]

I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:03 PM THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.

ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIES UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF ANY MATTER WHICH IS BEFORE THE BOARD THAT THEY HAVE JURISDICTION OVER.

ONCE AGAIN, SEVEN AS YOU CAN COUNT, WE HAVE EIGHT UP HERE.

YOU GOTTA HAVE SIX.

TWO DOESN'T WIN FIVE AND FIVE THREE DOES NOT WIN.

SO IT YOU DON'T HAVE SEVEN AND IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GET SEVEN.

YOU MIGHT DO WELL TO REQUEST WE TABLE SOMETHING IF IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE VIBE'S GOING YOUR WAY.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW TO GET AN APPROVED THROUGH ZBA YOU NEED SEVEN POSITIVE VOTES ON ANY MATTER THAT'S BEFORE US.

AND I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR BEFORE WE GET THERE, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES ZB A'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND YOU GOTTA HAVE SEVEN TO GET THERE.

UM, AT THIS POINT YOU COULD ADDRESS THE BOARD UNDER ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M NOW GONNA CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.

JUST BUTCHERED THAT DIDN'T I? ERIC SMITH HERE AND MELINDA ROGERS HERE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS HERE AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN PROCEED.

I'M NOW GONNA ASK SOMEONE TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.

CLAYTON YOU UP FOR IT? ABSOLUTELY.

MR. HUTCHINS WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.

DEAR GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BOARD.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY AND ITS UH, COUNCIL.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY AND

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WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM ALL.

IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

COUPLE MEETING GUIDELINES IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.

THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.

UH, SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD RIGHT AT THE TOP ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

FIRST THING ON THE MIC, NAME AND ADDRESS.

SO IT'S FOR THE RECORD.

STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.

AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT'S NOT LISTED ON OUR AGENDA.

CAN.

UNDER THE HEADING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS, OUR

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

FIRST ACTION ITEM OF THE NIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, THE MEETING OF APRIL 17TH, 2023.

IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION.

TIMOTHY, GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION.

I MOVE THE MOTION THAT WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. EPO AND A SPEAK INTO THE MIC.

SO WE GOT THE RECORD SECOND AND A SECOND FROM MS. EK.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MR. EPO AND A SECOND MS. UBA.

CHECK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

TAKE US TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION FOR OUR CASES LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED BY ACCOUNT.

EIGHT TO ZERO.

THAT WILL NOW

[2. ZBA-23-04-0031 (Council District 1) – Variance to reduce the front setback for a porch permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 726 Tuskegee Street, legally described as Lot 16, Block 2, Tyre Estate Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

WE HAVE SIX CASES ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

BRITTANY, YOU'RE UP.

GO AHEAD.

ITEM 0 4 0 0 3 1 LOCATED AT 7 26 TUSKEGEE STREET.

SO AS REQUEST FOR REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK, IT'S REQUIRED 25 FEET WITH AN SF FOUR ZONING, THEY'RE REQUESTING 22 FEET.

SO THEY'RE COMING IN TO REPLACE AN EXISTING PORCH.

THEY'RE REBUILDING IT TO THE EXACT DIMENSION THAT WAS BUILT PREVIOUSLY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S VERY WELL SCREENED IN THE FRONT YARD.

SO STAFF HAS AN APP, HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS REQUEST.

55 NOTICE SENT ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO POST.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AS REQUESTED.

IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT FOR STAFF? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.

BRITTANY, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? ENRIQUE GUERRERO? IS THAT RIGHT? DID YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK TO US OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? UM, WE'RE JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND READ INTO THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM GUERRERO? NO, I DON'T SEE ANY.

SO YOU'RE GONNA GET OFF LIGHT IT LOOKS LIKE.

ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE? 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 1.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 1.

SEEING NONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AND DO A REBUTTAL.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE AMONG STAFF? ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A MOTION TO TAKE ACTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 3.

ONE SECOND.

I WAS LOOKING THIS WAY SO I'M GONNA GO MR. ADAPA, I GOT A MOTION FOR MR. ADEEN.

A SECOND FOR MR. EPO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

UH, FOR ZPA TO FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING A VARIANCE FOR GARAGE CONVERSION? AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS BRAND NEW DRIVEWAY, A DOUBLE WIDTH DRIVEWAY WAS CONSTRUCTED.

MOTION IS APPROVED BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ZERO, WHICH WILL TAKE US TO

[3. ZBA-23-04-0023 (Council District 3) – Special Exception for a conversion of a garage into living space and a variance to reduce the minimum lot width permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1534 Avenue E, legally described as Lot 18R, Block 3, Lake Crest No. 2 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

OUR NEXT CASE.

UH, 0 0 2 3.

GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS, THE ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 3, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR GARAGE CONVERSIONS AND, UM, FOR THE LOT WITH VARIANCE.

LOCATED AT 1539 AVENUE E.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, PLAT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOT IS CURRENTLY A DOUBLE SIZE LOT.

THIS WAS RE PLATTED BACK IN 1987 AND THE ADDITIONAL LAND HAS BEEN USED FOR, UH, TO SUPPORT THE, USES THE MAIN HOUSE BY HAVING A DRIVEWAY WHICH LEADS TO THE SIDE ENTRY GARAGE AND HAVING A CARPORT.

SO THE, UM, APPLICANT WISHES TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE LOT BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAIN HOUSE DOES NOT ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE SETBACK.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR A LOT WITH REDUCTION AND AT THAT TIME YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO USE THE SIDE INTRIGUE GARAGE ANYMORE.

SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY.

THIS CASE WAS BROUGHT BEFORE ZBA BACK IN 2021 AND AT THE TIME THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT, HEY, ARE THEY PROVIDING THE TWO PAID PARKING SPACE FOR BE,

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I JUST WANNA NOTE, UH, MAKE, TAKE A NOTE OF IT, UM, SAYING THAT THESE WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED BEFORE THE PLATING.

ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU IS THIS AVENUE E IS NOT A FULLY DEVELOPED, FULLY IMPROVED RESIDENTIAL STREET.

A TYPICAL, FULLY IMPROVED RESIDENTIAL STREET.

YOU WILL SEE A SIX INCH CONCRETE CURVE IN FRONT OF THE FRONT YARD.

AND THEN PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF PARK THEIR CARS ALONG THAT.

HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN NOTE THAT BECAUSE THE STREET DOES NOT HAVE THAT, UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THE DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY CUTTING ACROSS A TRENCH WITH THE LITTLE UH, PIPES.

SO PEOPLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN THIS PICTURE, IN THE KIND OF IN THE HOUSE, TWO HOUSES IN THE BACK, PEOPLE ARE PARKING THEIR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAYS.

AND HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, PEOPLE ARE FINDING WAYS TO PARK THEIR CARS .

SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADDRESSES ZBA A'S PREVIOUS CONCERN.

WITH THAT, UM, 49 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO WAS RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.

STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST, BUT RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

ONE IS THAT THE LOT SHALL BE PLATTED BEFORE THE RELEASE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS.

THE, AS I MENTIONED, THE PLAT IS UNDER REVIEW.

WE JUST NEED THE VARIANCE APPROVED BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY APPROVE THE PLAT BECAUSE THEY ARE NEEDING THAT LOT WITH VARIANCE.

AND THEN SECOND THING IS THAT ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHALL BE REMOVED FOR FILING OF THE PLAT.

WE'LL NEED TO CONFIRM EITHER A PHOTO OR WRITTEN NOTICE OR SOMETHING SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE EXTRA STRUCTURES THERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE ONLY ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE MAIN HOUSE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT, NO QUESTIONS.

QUESTION TO MY LEFT? NO QUESTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK JUNE.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO THROUGH, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.

FIRST I BELIEVE IS THE A APPLICANT, DEO GRACIANO.

DO I HAVE A COME ON DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU WILL FOR JUST A SECOND.

I ALSO HAVE LUKE KEATON.

YOU GUYS KIND OF BACKING EACH OTHER UP? YEAH.

LUKE, ARE YOU GONNA TRANSLATE FOR BERTO? IS THAT THE YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU BOTH COME ON DOWN AND I'LL, THAT WAY I'LL READ YOU BOTH INTO THE RECORD.

MY NAME'S LUKE KEATON WITH KEATON SURVEYING COMPANY, UH, 2037 DALWORTH STREET IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

AND JUST DAN GILBERTO, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? FOUR.

FOUR.

MY NAME IS DA ROBERTO ANO.

I LIVE IN 1534 AVENUE E.

LUKE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SHARE WITH US? I THINK JUNE DID A GOOD JOB AT PRESENTING IT.

UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL ANSWER 'EM.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD TO MY RIGHT? HOW ABOUT TO MY LEFT? NO QUESTIONS HERE.

GENTLEMEN, YOU GOT OFF EASY.

IT'S JUST THAT EASY.

YOU DO.

THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

WE'LL READ YOU INTO THE RECORD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, ALL.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE? UH, 2304 OR 2 0 0 2 3.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 3.

SEEING NONE, I WILL LOOK FOR DISCUSSION OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS CASE.

MR. DEAN JUMPS RIGHT UP.

GO AHEAD SIR.

, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 3 WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND AND A SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. HEINE.

SECOND FOR MS. ROGERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THE MOTION PASSES BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ZERO, WHICH WILL TAKE US TO ITEM

[4. ZBA-23-04-0032 (Council District 5) – Special Exception to reduce the number of off-street parking spaces and variances to reduce the minimum front and side yard setbacks for a single family residence permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 201 NW 15th Street, legally described as Lot 12, Block 53, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 23 0 4 0 3 2.

THIS IS REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND VARIANCES LOCATED AT 2 0 1 NORTHWEST 15TH STREET.

SO AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THIS IS A LEGALLY PLOTTED LOT.

UM, IT'S FROM 1930, SO WE GOT WORKING ON A LOT WIDTH OF 25 FEET.

SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS LOT, THEY ARE HAVING TO COME IN AND MAKE A COUPLE REQUESTS AS EBA.

SO FIRST THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING.

OUR UDC CALLS FOR TWO GARAGE SPACES.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO ONE.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET.

THE SIDE SETBACK ON THE STREET FROM 15 FEET TO FIVE FEET.

AND THE INTERNAL SITE SETBACK FROM SIX FEET TO THREE FEET.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WE PROVIDED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PROVIDING THE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, WHICH AS CLAYTON POINTED OUT, PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE THE CONDITION JUST TO MAKE SURE BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS AWARE.

AND ON THE SAME PAGE AS EBA, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE IT.

THEY'VE ALSO AGREED TO DO THE REAR ENTRY GARAGE FROM THE ALLEY TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO EXTRA DRIVEWAYS WITHIN, UM, 50 FEET OF THAT INTERSECTION THAT'S EXISTING OVER THERE.

SO THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE LOT 46 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO

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OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO AS REQUESTED, BUT IS ASKING AS EBA INCLUDE THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES AND IS AVAILABLE.

UH, IT'S MY PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT FOR STAFF.

HOW ABOUT QUESTIONS? MY LEFT.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

NOW ON THE APPLICANT.

I HAVE LILA, GOODY GUNDY.

GUNDY.

I'M SO SORRY.

LILA.

I'M, THAT'S MY HANDWRITING.

YEAH, THAT'S TOTALLY HER FAULT.

I'M NOT GONNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AT ALL.

I AM THE INNOCENT ONE UP HERE.

ALL RIGHT, LILA.

AND I SEE YOU QUITE SMARTLY, MARK DOWN THAT YOU DON'T WISH TO SPEAK UNLESS, UNLESS WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS? YES SIR.

AND, UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE OR ARE WE, WE GOOD? WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YOU IN YOUR SEAT.

REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY.

LALA.

WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE RECORD THAT YOU WERE DOWN HERE TO SPEAK.

UH, THE OTHER CARD I HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, FRANCISCO PINON.

IS THAT RIGHT? DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK OR ARE YOU JUST IN SUPPORT OF THIS MODE? IT SAYS YOU'RE IN SUPPORT AND DON'T WISH TO SPEAK 'CAUSE YOU'RE ON TEAM LILA AND YOU DON'T WANNA SPEAK.

AND I PROBABLY MESSED UP YOUR NAME.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY BRITTANY'S FAULT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW THE PRE FRANCISCO CLOSE ENOUGH.

I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING HERE, UH, IS IN SUPPORT.

DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE? ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 2? NO.

ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION TO ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 2? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

TIMOTHY, GO AHEAD, SIR.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, OH, WHETHER THEY HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE INSTRUCTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY THIS STAFF.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL LYLA ON UP HERE.

JUST SO WHILE IT IS NOT THE OWNER, SHE'S REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FIVE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YES.

SO THE OWNERS AREN'T HERE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REP.

I HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE.

IS THAT WHO YOU WANNA TALK TO? SO THEY HAVE BEEN, YES.

THEY'VE BEEN MADE AWARE.

AND THE SITE PLAN, LILA AND I WENT BACK MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE SITE PLAN AND ANYTIME I'VE REQUESTED SOMETHING, THEY'VE GOT IT ADDED ON, SO, OKAY.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION, TIMOTHY? OKAY.

WE'LL SAVE LILA FROM HAVING TO WALK ALL THE WAY UP HERE.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO VOTE ON ZBA 23 0 4 0 0 0 3 2 WITH THE STAFF CONDITIONS.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION FOR MS. SECOND RODIER AND A SECOND FOR MR. EPO BECAUSE MR. SMITH, IT WOULD KILL YOU.

SO I COULD SAY YOUR NAME AT SOME POINT.

I'M GETTING ALL THE OTHER HARD NAMES AND YOU'RE JUST OVER THERE MUTE AS CAN BE.

BUT I HAVE A ABSOLUTELY MOTION FOR MS. RO A SECOND FOR MR. EPO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WILL TAKE ACTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

A AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THE MOTION DOES PASS BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

LEAVE ME OUT THERE HANGING MR. SMITH.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

[5. ZBA-23-04-0028 (Council District 3) – Variances to increase the maximum lot coverage and height and to reduce the minimum front, side, and rear yard setbacks for a single family residence permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 2426 Miller Street, legally described as Lot 12, Block 9, Mountain Lakeview Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, EBA 23 0 4 0 0 2 8.

THESE ARE A VARIANCE REQUEST LOCATED AT 24 26 MILLER STREET.

SO THEY ARE REQUESTING, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FROM 50% FOR 56%.

AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 25 FEET TO 27 FEET.

ONE INCH REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK, 25 FEET TO 20 FEET, A REDUCTION OF THE SIDE SETBACK, SIX FEET TO FIVE FEET ON BOTH SIDES.

OBJECTION OF THE REAR SETBACK.

10 FEET TO SIX FEET, 11 INCHES.

AGAIN, THIS IS FOR A DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED IN SF FOUR ZONING.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF.

THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF.

AND THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE LOT 58 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN, OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE, WHICH WAS A TRUE HARDSHIP.

THEY ARE ABLE TO MEET SF FOUR STANDARDS.

THEY ARE JUST CHOOSING NOT TO AND COMING BEFORE YOU FOR FIVE VARIANCE REQUESTS.

THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT.

THE REQUEST IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? TO MY RIGHT, QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT FOR STAFF.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

NOW YOU BRITTANY IN HERE THE APPLICANT'S JESUS VALDIVIA.

AND I HAVE A CARD HERE FROM E EZEKIEL.

IS THAT EZEKIEL? YEAH, THAT'S IT.

I LEAVE IT RIGHT HERE.

FIRST OFF, RIGHT AT THE TOP, YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SO WHO'S COMING UP? JESUS OR EZEKIEL, YOU CAN BOTH COME ON UP.

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SO IT'S IN THE MIC.

ALRIGHT.

MY NAME IS JESUS VALDIVIA.

I LIVE AT 7 25 GRAND HILL LANE, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 2.

OLI UHHUH 20 24 33 MILLER STREET.

GOT IT.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW? JESUS.

UH, REALLY WE JUST WANNA BUILD THAT HOUSE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE.

WELL, I CAN'T REALLY SEE THE PICTURE HERE.

CAN I PULL UP YOUR SCREEN? WE, WE CAN T TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH 'CAUSE IT'S THIS, IT, NO, YOU WANT TO SEE THE, THE EAGLE EYE ELEVATION OR THE ABOVE? YEAH.

SO WHENEVER WE SET THE PLANS, UM, THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON KIND OF ON THE LEFT, IT'S GONNA BE HIS HOUSE.

IT, HE'S TRYING TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO WHENEVER WE SEND THE PLANTS TO GET THEM DRAWN, UH, WE HAD A SERIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS FIVE FEET FROM THE SIDES.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED.

WHENEVER THEY DRAW THE PLANTS.

AND THEN ON THE HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND IT, YOU SEE THIS RIGHT? BORDERLINE WITH THE FENCE.

SO WE, MY MISTAKE, I REALLY DIDN'T ASK, UH, TO SEE HOW MUCH FEET WE NEEDED FROM THE BACK TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

UH, SO THAT IS KIND OF MY MISTAKE.

, I'LL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

UM, BUT YEAH, BASED ON THE OTHER HOUSES OR EVEN MY DAD'S HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IT'S NOT EVEN 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE FENCE.

AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S ONLY LIKE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE FENCE.

SO WE JUST WANNA SEE IF WE CAN GET AN APPROVAL FOR US TO START BUILDING THAT HOUSE.

WELL HERE, HERE'S MY CHALLENGE.

I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU SAID IT, YOU DID, YOU DIDN'T CHECK ON THE BACK, DIDN'T CHECK ON SOME OTHER STUFF.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE VARIANCES HERE, WHICH IS A LOT.

I JUST DIDN'T CHECK ON THE BACK TO BE HONEST.

'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS IF WE TOOK MORE TIME AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO VOTE ON QUITE AS MANY VARIANCES, I MIGHT BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS.

UH, AND I'M CONCERNED HONESTLY, WE'VE GOT EIGHT PEOPLE HERE TO VOTE.

AND AS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF THIS THING, YOU GOTTA HAVE SEVEN YESES TO GET IT, OTHERWISE IT GETS VOTED DOWN AND YOU GET TO WAIT SIX MONTHS OH WOW.

BEFORE YOU COME BACK.

OKAY? SO I WANNA BE VERY FAIR WITH YOU THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO A A AND, AND WITH FIVE VARIANCES, IT'S A CHALLENGE, RIGHT? IF YOU TOOK SOME TIME AND CLEANED IT UP, I PERSONALLY WOULD BE MORE, NOW I'M JUST ONE VOTE.

BUT I'D BE MORE INCLINED.

BUT SEEING THAT MANY VARIANCES IS A TOUGH THING.

'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A, YOU HEARD WHAT SHE SAID IN THE, IN THE EARLIER SECTION THAT IT'S PRETTY TALL HIGH PITCH, RIGHT? IT'S TWO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NEIGHBORHOOD, YEAH.

TWO FEET HIGHER THAN WHAT IT, YEAH.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WOULD FEEL LIKE FOR ME, I'D BE MORE IN SUPPORT OF IT IF I FELT LIKE WE CAME BACK AND TWEAKED A FOOT HERE OR TWEAKED THAT AND, AND MADE IT THE RIGHT DEAL.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE A SWING, MISS IT, AND THEN HAVE TO JUST SIT OUT AND RIGHT.

STARE AT THE GRASS ALL SUMMER.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH MY VOTE.

NOW I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW THE OTHERS, BUT LET ME ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD THAT HAS QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT OF WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING BEFORE US OR WANTS TO CHAIR MR. DEAN.

GO AHEAD SIR.

YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, ONE OF THE BIG PROB, YOU KNOW, LIKE MR. SANDERS SAID YOU HAVE A COUPLE ISSUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BACK PROPERTY LINE OR THE BACK OF THE HOUSE BEING SO CLOSE TO THE BACK PROPERTY LINE WITH THE OTHER HOUSE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, I'M LIKE, OKAY, SO YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE ANY ROOM BACK THERE IF YOU ONLY ARE, YOU KNOW, FIVE FEET OFF THAT BACK PROPERTY LINE.

RIGHT? WE HAVE SIX FEET, 11 INCHES.

SIX INCHES.

SO EVEN SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ROOM, YOU BARELY HAVE ROOM FOR A DOG TO GO OUT AND USE A RESTROOM BACK THERE.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO NOT TO MENTION ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BEING THE OTHER HOUSES I NOTICED BEFORE ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES FOR THE MOST PART.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU BASICALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ZERO LOT LINE HOME GOING IN, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIGNED FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY, 'CAUSE I'M RIGHT THERE WITH BARRY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED, YOU NEED SEVEN VOTES.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING IT.

YOU MIGHT BE BETTER OFF ASKING US TO TABLE IT AND UH, OR WITHDRAWING THE MOTION FOR NOW AND GOING BACK AND REWORKING THE PLANS, WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT FITS BETTER ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

GOTCHA.

NOW LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

CAN I YES, GO AHEAD.

IF YOU WANNA ASK STAFF, GO AHEAD.

IF WE LOOK AT THE SIDE PLAN HERE, ON THE VERY BACK, THERE'S LIKE A PORCH.

WHAT IF WE REMOVE THAT PORCH? SEE, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT BEFORE US RIGHT? TO TWEAK IT.

BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THEIR INSIGHT.

AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO DO IS YOU'RE GONNA WANNA PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL AND IT MIGHT HAVE ONE VARIANCE

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OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I'M NOT HORRIBLY OFFENDED BY YOU NEED THE THREE FOOT ONE INCH ON THE PACK.

IT'S JUST WHEN YOU STACK IT UP WITH THE OTHER STUFF, RIGHT.

THAT IT GETS.

AND SO I'D ALMOST LIKE YOU TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY LOOK, WE'VE GOT, IF I CAN GET THE STAFF ON BOARD WITH ONE MINOR THING INSTEAD OF FIVE MINOR THINGS, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO GIVE MY VOTE.

UH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE THAT IT'S GONNA MAKE IT MORE AMENABLE.

YOU WANT IT TO FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU WANT 'EM TO HAVE A NICE PLACE.

I WANT YOU TO HAVE A NICE PLACE AND A LOT.

BUT I ALSO WANT, I KNOW THIS, THE PROCESS CAN BE A LITTLE DAUNTING, RIGHT? AND I WANNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT FAIR WITH YOU BECAUSE ZBA IS GRANTING A ZONING CHANGE.

WE, YOU GOTTA GET A SUPER MAJORITY, YOU GOTTA GET SEVEN OUT OUT OF NINE POTENTIAL BOARD MEMBERS.

YOU'RE ALREADY STARTING OFF.

'CAUSE YOU GOT EIGHT UP HERE.

SO YOU, YOU GOT ONE VOTE THAT'S JUST WENT OUT THE WINDOW.

AND I THINK WE KIND OF CLEARLY TOLD YOU THE THING.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE GRATIFIED IF YOU SAID, LOOK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA YEAH, NO, UNDERSTANDABLE.

NOW ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO IF YES SIR, IF WE END UP MOVING THE, REMOVING THE PORCH AND THEN ON THE HEIGHT, WE TWEAK THE HEIGHT AS WELL TO BRING IT DOWN TO 25 FEET.

WE STILL HAVE THREE VARIANCES THERE.

AND STAFF WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, IF YOU REMOVE THE PORCH, IT MIGHT TAKE YOUR LOT COVERAGE DOWN BELOW 50.

SO POTENTIALLY COULD BE LOSING A THREE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD LOSE, YOU COULD LOSE ONE OF THE VARIANCES IF THE PORCH ISN'T THERE JUST BECAUSE IT, IT KIND OF COUNTS AGAINST YOU IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES.

SO IF WE END UP DOING THAT, DO WE HAVE TO COME UP TO YOU GUYS AGAIN OR WE JUST PRETTY MUCH JUST TALK TO YOU? STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU.

UH, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT YOU PROPOSE AND THEN, BUT WE WILL BE BACK HERE NEXT MONTH.

BUT THAT WAY YOU CAN BE BACK HERE ON THE 19TH OF JUNE INSTEAD OF SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

AND, AND I'M GRATIFIED THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK ON THIS AND MAKE DEALS A LOT OF TIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, GET WHAT THE CITY'S HAPPY WITH, WHAT THEY CAN RECOMMEND, THEN IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER.

NOBODY LIKES TO VOTE ANYTHING DOWN.

BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T FIT.

EXACTLY.

IT'S TOO TALL.

IT'S AGAINST THE FENCE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY COME UP TO US.

WHAT, WHAT THE, YOU RIGHT.

WE, WE, WE DON'T MIND IT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TOO.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT EVERYTHING.

SO, BUT THE FEEDBACK, I, I THINK THAT IF YOU CLEANED IT UP WITH A, IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.

I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE WILLING TO IT.

I JUST HOPE THAT YOU DON'T PUT ME IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO TAKE AN UP DOWN BOAT TONIGHT.

TRUST ME.

THAT'S WHY, THAT WHY I'M, I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT EVEN, EVEN IF EVERYBODY LOVES EVERYBODY, IT COULD STILL BE A PROBLEM.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN TWEAK IT AND COME BACK NEXT MONTH.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

UH, TABLE IS FINE.

WELL, I'LL TRY TO BE HERE NEXT MONTH.

I HAVE A TRIP LONG PLANNED TRIP.

WELL THAT, THAT'S OKAY.

NOT REQUIRED TO BE HERE, BUT THEN IT'S ON YOUR, THEN IT'S ON YOUR SCHEDULE AND YOU GET SOMETHING THAT RATHER THAN GETTING A NOBO AND YOU'RE BANNED FROM COMING BACK WITH THIS PRODUCT FOR, FOR SIX MONTHS.

WELL ALSO, I, I'LL HAVE TALK TO BRITTANY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL BE AN APPROVAL WITHOUT ME BEING HERE.

WELL, YOU, YOU'D WANT, YOU WANNA, I MEAN THERE ARE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN TELL YOU, HEY LOOK, MOVE THIS BACK TWO FEET AND YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOLDEN.

YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK US.

WE DON'T EVEN GET TO HEAR IT ALL RIGHT.

BUT IF I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE YOU TO REQUEST WE GO AHEAD AND TABLE THAT, THEN I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO TABLE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO.

'CAUSE YEAH, LET'S PUT IT ON THE, YOU GUYS BEING THE APPLICANT.

SO THEN ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT THAT WE WANNA ASK QUESTIONS? SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM A LITTLE TIME TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS AND GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT IS SO YES SIR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT PAINFULLY CLEAR.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THREE EIGHT OH THUMBS UP, UH, APPROVALS AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT EACH ONE OF THEM WERE APPROVALS THAT THE, THE, UM, THAT ZONING HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH.

SO THEY CAN'T SUGGEST WE, I, I DON'T KNOW IN MY HISTORY, PERHAPS WE'VE GONE AGAINST THE, THE ZONING BOARDS, UH, UH, A FEW TIMES APPROVAL.

WE, WE, WE HAVE THE STAFF.

WE DO IT EVERY NOW AND THEN THAT WE WANT.

THEY COME UP WITH STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT A LOT OF TIMES.

IF YOU WANT, WE APPROVE AN EASY THUMBS UP.

JUST GET, GET SOMETHING THAT THEY LIKE .

EXACTLY.

THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT.

THAT'S, YEAH.

THOSE FIRST THREE WERE REAL EASY THAT YOU JUST WATCHED.

AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THIS COMMITTEE, I MEAN WE HAVE A TOUGH RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S GOTCHA.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY VARIANCES, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND SO WITH THAT BEFORE US, I THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING DOWN.

I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD TRIP AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

HOPEFULLY.

HOW ABOUT THAT? HOPEFUL.

HOPEFULLY YOU COME AND SEE THE NEW HOUSE.

AND DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY INPUT BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN CLOSING THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING AND UM, MAKE A MOTION? I SEE NOTHING ELSE.

IF HE MAKE A MOTION TABLE.

I MEAN, I, I KNOW I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I'M, I WAS LOOKING AT YOU TO MAKE IT SINCE HE JUST, ALRIGHT, I MOVE.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE TABLE OR DO WE NEED TO ASK HIM TO MOTION? NO.

TABLE I THINK IS THE CLEAN ORDER.

JOHN, MOTION ON, ON ADVICE OF COUNSEL IF WE CAN GET A MOTION AT TABLE.

SO IF ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN CAN DO THAT COUNCIL THERE.

WELL,

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WE END DISCUSSION FOR NOW ON THIS MATTER AND MOVE TO TABLE THIS REQUEST UNTIL NEXT MEETING.

I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE FROM MR. SMITH SECOND AND A SECOND FOR MS. ROGERS.

TWO EASY NAMES FOR ME THAT TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY AYE.

WE'RE TABLING AT EIGHT.

[6. ZBA-23-04-0030 (Council District 3) – Special Exceptions for a carport and variances to increase the maximum area and maximum width of the carport and to reduce the required front and side yard setbacks permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1733 Glen Key Street, legally described as Lot 3, Block 8, Inglewood Park No. 1 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three Residential District]

UP, BRITTANY.

UH, 0 0 3 0.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, ZBA 23 0 4 0 0 3 0.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND SOME VARIANCES.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 1733 GLEN KEY STREET.

SO THEY'RE REQUESTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AREA OF 500 SQUARE FEET TO 750 SQUARE FEET, INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF THE CARPORT FROM 26 FEET TO 30 FEET, REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK FROM FIVE FEET TO ZERO FEET AND REDUCE THE SIZE SETBACK FROM THREE FEET TO ZERO FEET.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

THIS IS A PHOTO, AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING CONDITION THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 2018.

IT WAS NOT LEGALLY PERMITTED.

IT WAS THEY WERE CITED BY CODE, ASKED TO COME IN FOR ZBA APPROVAL AND BUILDING PERMITS.

UM, 47 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF WAS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST DUE TO THE FACT THAT AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM AREA IS BEYOND WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD APPROVE.

SO NORMALLY WE LOOK AT 650 SQUARE FEET IS ABOUT WHAT STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH.

THIS IS 750 SQUARE FEET.

AND AGAIN, STAFF HAS, WAS UNABLE TO FIND ANY EVIDENCE THIS EVA HAS EVER APPROVED A ZERO FOOT SETBACK ON EITHER THE SIDE OR FRONT YARDS STAFF.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY RIGHT NOW THE QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.

GO AHEAD ERIC.

DO WE KNOW HOW TO WITH FIVE YEARS WITHOUT BEING DISCOVERED? I MEAN A LOT OF TIMES, UM, IT NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY REPORT THESE KIND OF THINGS.

SO, UM, IF AND IF IT'S ON A NEIGHBOR THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS CODE WILL BE DRIVING AROUND AND SOME CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS I THINK ARE BETTER KIND OF RECOGNIZING WHO'VE WORKED WITH PLANNING A LITTLE MORE.

MAYBE LIKE, OH, THAT'S A CARPORT THAT NEEDS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THAT'S RATHER LARGE.

IT MAYBE NEEDS SOME VARIANCES.

DID WAS IT LEGALLY PERMITTED? AND THEN ASKED THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY, QUESTION IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED TONIGHT, WHAT IS THE PASSWORD? SO, UM, MOST LIKELY, I MEAN MOST LIKELY IF IT'S NOT APPROVED TONIGHT, IF AND IT'S NOT TABLED, THEN THEY CAN'T COME BACK FOR SIX, FOUR MONTHS.

SO THE EXPECTATION WILL BE THAT THEY EITHER TEAR IT DOWN OR WE DID HAVE 1 0 0 9 RALPH STREET.

IT WAS A SIMILAR CASE.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO TELL THEM IF YOU'RE WILLING TO REDUCE IT TO WHERE IT COULD BE ADMIN APPROVED, WE CAN ADMIN APPROVE IT.

SO I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF THEY MEET THE ADMIN APPROVAL CONDITIONS.

BUT IF THEY DO, IF THEY CHANGE THE REQUEST ENOUGH, WHICH BASICALLY WOULD BE REMOVING ALL THOSE VARIANCES.

AND THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION IF THEY MEET OUR CRITERIA, UM, WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS, THERE HAS TO BE ONE LEGALLY PERMIT WITHIN 800 FEET.

BUT IF THEY DO MEET IT, THEN POTENTIALLY WE COULD ADMIN APPROVE IT OR IF NOT, THEY COULD COME BACK FOR THE BOARD IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ENOUGH REQUEST, WHICH I BELIEVE, UM, OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE SAID THAT THEM REMOVING ALL THOSE VARIANCES MAKES IT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH SO THEY COULD COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

STEERMAN WE SAW HIM A FEW TIMES .

SO, BUT IF THEY KEEP THE SAME REQUEST, THEY CANNOT COME BACK FOR SIX MONTHS AND THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THEY TAKE IT DOWN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MAYBE TO TAKE IT DOWN OR ADJUST IT.

ANYONE IN OPPOSITION TO 2 4 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 0.

IT'S WAY GET DOWN TO GET ADMIN APPROVAL.

'CAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN APPROVED, RIGHT? YES.

SO IT YEAH, IT HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THANK YOU BRITTANY.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

I DO HAVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS MODESTO TREJO, BUT TREJO, BUT I DO NOT HAVE A CARD.

IS THERE A REJO IN THE ROOM? DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE IN THE ROOM? 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 0 SEEING NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE IN SUPPORT OF 2 3 0 4 0 0 3 0 SEE NONE.

WELL THAT JUST MAKES IT ALL KINDS OF FUN, DOESN'T IT? SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND A VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR CA CASE.

I MOVE THE MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THIS CASE.

UHHUH AND SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALRIGHT.

NOW CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? YEAH, WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT.

I, AND I'M GONNA ASK, I'M GONNA ASK COUNSEL.

'CAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT IN THE CASES EVA, IT'S BETTER IF EVERYTHING, ALL, ALL MOTIONS ARE MADE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND THEN EVERY MEMBER OF THE

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BOARD CAN VOTE UP OR DOWN ON THAT.

BUT THAT WAY EITHER YOU APPROVE IT OR YOU DON'T BY A MAJORITY.

I THINK IN THIS CASE, IF, IF SOMEONE IS THIS CLEAR WHAT THE, WHAT THE MOTION IS FOR AND WE'RE GOOD.

SO I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION.

ARE YOU VOTING TO GIVE THEM THE VARIANCES THEY'RE REQUESTING? NO OR NO? NO.

SO YOU'RE VOTING TO DENY YES.

THE FIVE VARIANCES AS AS SUBMITTED? YES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE A, A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND A MOTION BEFORE US TO DENY THE, THE APPLICATION FOR THE FIVE VARIANCES AS SUBMITTED? YES.

IS EVERYONE, SO IN THIS CASE A VOTE, A YES VOTE WILL BE A VOTE TO DENY? YES.

SO BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE A MOTION SURE.

I KIND OF MADE IT UP AS WE WENT ALONG, BUT WHAT DO YOU GUYS HAVE DOWN AT GIVEN THE MOTION? NO, ACTUALLY TIMOTHY'S.

THERE YOU.

OH YES.

GO TIMOTHY, YOU GOT THIS? YEAH, I MOVE THE MOTION THAT WILL CLOSE THE HEARING AND TO DENY THE VARIANCES SOUGHT AFTER.

OKAY, SO IF EVERYONE IS CLEAR, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ONE? A SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. EPO.

A SECOND FOR MS. ROGERS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE COMPLETELY CLEAR ON HOW THIS MOTION'S GONNA GO, WHAT YOU'RE VOTING.

SO ALL THOSE VOTING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION, WHICH IS A DENIAL OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCES.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

ANY IN OPPOSITION TO THAT MOTION? NONE.

SO BY COUNT OF EIGHT TO ZERO, THAT MOTION FAILS.

OR EXCUSE ME, THE MOTION PASSES.

THE VARIANCES FAIL.

JUST WANNA CLEAN THAT UP FOR 'EM ON THE MIC SOMEWHERE I'LL GET YELLED AT TOMORROW.

TAKES

[7. ZBA-23-04-0024 (Council District 1) – Special Exception for a rear yard carport and variances to increase the maximum area and maximum width of the carport, and a variance to increase the maximum wall height of an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1901 W Arbor Rose Drive, legally described as Lot 11, Block 1, Wild Rose Ridge Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-One Residential District]

US TO ITEM SEVEN.

GO AHEAD, BRITTANY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS ZBA 23 0 4.

0 0 2 4.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 1901 WEST ARBOR ROSE DRIVE.

SO THEY ARE COMING AND REQUESTING VARIANCES TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AREA OF A CARPORT FROM 500 SQUARE FEET TO 760 SQUARE FEET.

UM, INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF A CARPORT FROM 26 FEET TO 40 FEET, AND AN INCREASE THE MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FROM 12 FEET TO 15 FEET.

AGAIN, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE.

NUMBER ONE IS THE EXISTING HOME.

NUMBER TWO IS AN EXISTING THE STORAGE WAREHOUSE TYPE BUILDING.

UM, NUMBER THREE IS THE PROPOSED METAL CARPORT, AND NUMBER FOUR IS THE PROPOSED VOLLEYBALL COURT.

SO THESE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US.

THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS PROVIDED TO US, WHICH AS YOU COULD, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE.

YEAH, JUNE IS CORRECT THAT I BELIEVE IT'S 19 FEET TOTAL FOR THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE HOME.

43 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR FOR RETURN, OPPOSE.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE SEA SIZE OF THOSE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FAR EXCEEDED ANYTHING ELSE ALLOWED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S SIMPLY DUE TO THE LOT SIZE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATCH THE, LIKE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THAT CARPORT AREA EXCEEDS WHAT STAFF IS GENERALLY COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING, WHICH IS 650 SQUARE FEET.

AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING 760 SQUARE FEET.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? TO MY RIGHT, MR. SMITH? YES.

UH, NOW IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME, IS THE PROPOSED VOLLEYBALL COURT COVERED? YES.

SO THE STEEL CANOPY IS TO COVER THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

AND, BUT THERE'S ALSO A STEEL CANOPY OVER THE CARPORT? YES.

YEAH, THAT'S JUST HOW THEY WAS REFERRED TO IN THEIR PACKET.

THEY SUBMITTED TO US METAL CARPORT AND STEEL CANOPY, BUT THEY'LL BOTH BE METAL STRUCTURES.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FIRST, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST SLIDE, THE OVERHEAD.

SO THE THIRD VARIANCE, THE HEIGHT, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE 19? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? 19.

SO THE WAY OUR ARTICLE SIX IS WRITTEN IS A LITTLE WEIRD.

SO BASED OFF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE WALL HEIGHT AND THE OVERALL HEIGHT.

SO THEY'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE LIMITS ON THE OVERALL HEIGHT, BUT THEY ARE EXCEEDING THE LIMITS ON THE WALL HEIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY THE VARIANCE IS WRITTEN THIS WAY.

THE OVERALL HEIGHT, I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY 22 FEET IS ALLOWED AND THEY'RE AT 19, BUT THE WALL HEIGHT IS CAPPED AT 12.

HOW ABOUT QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT FOR STAFF? ANYBODY? NO.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT.

THANK YOU, BRITTANY.

NOW I HAVE AN APPLICANT DOWN AS DORA GOMEZ.

DORA, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD? THAT'S OKAY.

IF YOU COULD COME ON DOWN THOUGH AND, AND TALK TO US.

THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA, WHEN YOU'RE DONE THOUGH, I WANT YOU TO GET WITH HER IN THE BACK AND SHE'LL FILL IT OUT.

JUST SO WE HAVE IT.

FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU WERE HERE, YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN, WE'LL, MY NAME IS DORA GOMEZ AND I LIVE IN 1901 WEST AR ROSE DRIVE.

BUILD A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE? WELL, NOT REALLY.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW? WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE ON THE BACK OF THAT LOT OR WANNA

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IT'S ONLY THE, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE CARPORT, UHHUH.

'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PLACE TO PUT OUR CARS.

THE GARAGE WAS CONVERTED INTO A ROOM BEFORE WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE.

UH, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE GARAGE OR ANYTHING.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

MY DAUGHTER PLAYS, UH, VOLLEYBALL, SO I WANNA BE ABLE TO WATCH HER ALL THE TIME AND TO BRING, UH, UH, FRIENDS AND EVERYBODY, UH, TO PLAY SMALL COURT.

BUT WE JUST WANNA COVER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, NOW THE SUN AND EVERYTHING, UH, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE COMFORTABLE.

SO, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

NOW, I, I LIVE UP IN THAT AREA, THAT'S CHAIN LINKS ALL IN THE BACK THERE FACING OUT ON THE, SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY ACROSS, I KNOW YOU GOT THAT EASEMENT FOR THE POWER LINE.

GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH THERE.

'CAUSE BECAUSE THAT RUNS RIGHT THERE.

BUT, UH, UM, IF THERE WAS A CHALLENGE, 'CAUSE I, I HAVE TWO CHALLENGES.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BUILDING A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF ALL ON ONE MOTION.

IF I WERE TO ASK YOU WHAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT, THE CARPORT OR THE VOLLEYBALL COURT, IF YOU HAD TO PICK AND CHOOSE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? CARPORT.

AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER CHALLENGE I HAVE IS THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO BE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT OF, OF, OF, OF, WELL IT'S ON THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE, I BELIEVE IS, IS WHAT IT IS.

FOR CAR CARPORTS HAVE THEIR OWN RESTRICTIONS ON HOW BIG THEY CAN BE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR 50.

YOU, YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50 ACRES, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE BUILT ON THERE AS TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN HAVE THE OTHER STUFF ON THERE.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CHALLENGE ABOUT THIS, MA'AM, IS THAT, UH, WE'RE PUTTING BIG STEEL STRUCTURE OVER A VOLLEYBALL COURT.

MR. RODIN'S ALREADY CONCERNED THAT YOUR DAUGHTER MIGHT HIT IT TOO HIGH AND THE ROOF'S NOT EVEN HIGH ENOUGH AS IT IS.

UH, BUT, AND, AND THE CARPORT AND I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO DO, MAYBE NOT TAKING A WHOLE FAIL SWEEP AT EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE MIGHT MAKE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT AND GETTING A YES VOTE.

NOW YOU HEARD THAT LAST CASE WHERE A COUPLE CASES BACK WHERE I HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE HERE.

YOU'VE GOTTA GET SEVEN VOTES.

IF YOU ARE NOT GONNA GET SEVEN VOTES AND JUST LISTEN TO SOME FOLKS.

IF, IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GET IT, THEN WE MAY WANT TO GO BACK AND, AND, AND MODIFY SOME STUFF AND BRING SOME, SOMETHING BACK A LITTLE BIT CLEANER.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.

WHEN THEY'RE DONE, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP AND, AND DO FOLLOW UP FOR ANYTHING THAT'S SAID BECAUSE YOU'RE THE APPLICANT AND, AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU FIRST AND LAST ON THIS.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD? I'M SORRY.

YES, GO AHEAD.

YES, I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.

WELL, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, TODAY WE ARE ONLY GOING TO DISCLOSE THE CARPORT.

UH, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

WE HAVE A, UH, DIFFERENT PERMITS, UH, FOR, FOR EACH, UH, STAFF.

SO, UM, I WAS HERE JUST TO GET A PERMIT FOR THE CARDBOARD.

UH, THANK, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

'CAUSE I'M GONNA DIRECT THIS TO STAFF.

SO PERMITS ARE RUN SEPARATELY VER WE AS PLANNING DECIDE TO RUN ZBA REQUEST CONCURRENTLY.

SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DROP THE, WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE APPLICATION IF THEY DROP THE WHOLE VARIANCE FOR A, A ROOF OVER A VOLLEYBALL COURT? SO, UM, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS CAN THEY BE APPROVED FOR THE CARPORT AREA VARIANCE, IN WHICH CASE WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.

BUT I THINK ALL THE ITEMS WILL HAVE TO EITHER BE TABLED OR WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

SO, WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.

YOU, YOU, YOU GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS.

STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT, AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THIS.

I MEAN, THIS BIG GIANT ROOF OUT HERE WOULD BE A CHALLENGE, BUT I'M GONNA LET STAFF 'CAUSE I DON'T, WHILE WE'RE OPENING IN A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

'CAUSE YEAH.

AS I ASKED YOU AT THE TOP OF THIS, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE CARPORT'S YOUR FIRST THING TO, TO WORRY ABOUT.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND NOT THE CARPORTS.

BECAUSE THE OTHER THING I UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE'RE AT SEVEN 50 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS BIGGER THAN THE SIX 50.

WE'RE COMFORTABLE.

IS THAT ALL ON THE CARPORT? JUNE? YES.

SORRY, SO WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? UH, THE SECOND ITEM ON UHHUH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UHHUH , THE REQUESTED MAXIMUM AREA OF AIRPLANE YES.

FOR THE CARPORT IS SEVEN 60.

WE'RE MORE COMFORTABLE.

I REMEMBER IN BRITTANY'S BRITTANY'S PRESENTATION MM-HMM .

TYPICALLY WE SEE SIX 50 IS THE THING.

SIX 50 HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT STAFF WAS FEELING COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING UP TO SIX 50 OR LESS.

SO STAFF COULD SUPPORT SIX 50.

SO IF SHE WITHDREW VOLLEYBALL COURT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, AND IF WE SUGGESTED THAT TO GET AN APPROVAL, YOU MAY HAVE TO, WE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE UP TO 650 FEET.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING,

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SO, WELL, YEAH.

AND, AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM, FROM LET, LET'S HEAR FROM BRITTANY RIGHT FROM DOOR AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK SHE HAS, GO AHEAD BRITTANY, WHAT DO YOU GOT FOR US? I THINK WE WANNA HEAR FROM RESIDENT TOO, AND IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO TABLE THE WHOLE CASE AND UNTANGLE IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL NEED TO RE-NOTICE AND REMOVE THINGS.

I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT, OKAY.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO DO, COURT, WE RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD STIPULATION THERE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE UP HERE TRYING TO WIELD IT AROUND.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO DO MM-HMM .

IS, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OTHER CARDS AND, AND WE'LL HEAR THEIR POSITION.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE THEIR POSITION'S GONNA GO IF, IF THEY HAVE OPPOSITION.

AND, AND I THINK WE'RE COMING A PERSONALLY I THINK YOU'RE COMING A LONG WAY IF WE CAN BACK OFF THE VOLLEYBALL COURT, BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US IS KIND OF MUDDIED RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T WANT YOU GETTING THE SAME CHALLENGE WE HAD WITH THE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT IF WE VOTE AND YOU DON'T GET SEVEN, YOU SIT TIGHT FOR SIX MONTHS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN LOOK AT IT.

SO YES, I UNDERSTAND.

IF THAT PRESENTS THE THING, I'M GONNA CALL ON THE OTHER CARDS AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE YOU COME BACK UP.

IS THAT FAIR? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

LET ME ASK HER ONE QUESTION.

OH, ONE MORE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

MR. B, ARE YOU BUILDING A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT OR ARE YOU BUILDING A PAVED VOLLEYBALL COURT? NO, IT'S A CONCRETE, IT'S GONNA BE A CONCRETE, SO YES.

WITH SOME SORT OF SURFACE ON IT SO THE KIDS CAN DIVE AND DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WELL IT'S, UM, THIS IS RECREATION, IT'S LIKE KIND OF RECREATIONAL.

IT'S, IT'S JUST FOR MY HOUSE.

IT'S NOT LIKE, UH, TEAMS WILL COME AND PLAY TO MY HOUSE OR ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST FOR THE FAMILY TO GET FUN AND FOR MY DAUGHTER TO TRAIN.

YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MY AND I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T ALL THAT GERMANE TO EVERYBODY ELSE QUESTION, BUT MY DAUGHTERS PLAYED VOLLEYBALL TOO.

THEY PLAYED CLUB VOLLEYBALL, THEY PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL VOLLEYBALL.

THEY, YOU KNOW, PLAYED PRETTY HIGH LEVEL STUFF AND YOU KNOW, THE BALL GOES PRETTY HIGH.

SO A 19 FOOT CEILING, YOU KNOW, IS PRETTY LOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE HITTING THE BALL OFF THAT CEILING A LOT.

YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION FOR YOU WOULD BE TO, YOU WANNA PUT A VOLLEY, YOU KNOW, PUT A PAVE IN THERE SO THEY CAN PLAY VOLLEYBALL BACK THERE.

GREAT.

YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE SITTING IN THE SUN? WELL, YOU KNOW, SET UP SOME UMBRELLAS FOR PEOPLE TO SIT UNDER INSTEAD OF P THEM INSTEAD OF COVERING THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW? BUT, UH, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, SO.

YES, THANK YOU MR. ABPA.

GO AHEAD SIR.

YES, YES.

UM, I KNOW IT'S, UH, GOING TO BE A FAMILY VOLLEYBALL COURT.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FEELINGS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE YOUR DAUGHTER MAY HAVE SOME FRIENDS AT CERTAIN TIMES AND WE CAN HAVE POOR PEOPLE MAKING THE CROWD OF A VILLAGE DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORS.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL THAT? PUTTING THE FEELINGS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AT HEART? WELL, UM, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S NOT REALLY BEFORE US, IS IT? OKAY.

I MEAN, IN FAIRNESS YEAH.

THAT, AND THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN INTRODUCED YET.

IT MAY IN A FEW MINUTES WHEN WE HAVE THE OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, BUT AS CHAIR, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO HAVE HER ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE US YET.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF YOU CAN WITHDRAW THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 4? NOT SEEING ANY? I HAVE TWO CARDS AND YOU DON'T WISH TO SPEAK UNLESS YOU WANNA SPEAK, BUT I HAVE PATSY BURNS.

DO YOU NOT WISH TO SPEAK? YOU'RE JUST HERE IN OPPOSITION? YES.

I'LL READ INTO THE RECORD THAT PATSY BURNS IS HERE AND IN OPPOSITION, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

THE OTHER CARD I HAVE IS SANDY AND JOHN SALISBURY, WHICH I BETTER, THE OTHER TWO NICE PEOPLE.

JOHN, YOU WANNA COME DOWN AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT, JUST SO THE BOARD IS FULLY INFORMED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

IF YOU COULD START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR, AND TAKE YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS JOHN SALISBURY, LIVE AT 1930 WILDWOOD DRIVE.

I LIVE IN THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ACCESSORY OR THE VOLLEYBALL COURT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

FIRST THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS AGO, PRIOR TO THESE PEOPLE OWNING THE HOME, THERE WAS A FIRE IN THAT STORAGE BUILDING THAT WAS BACK THERE THAT WAS, AND IT BURNT TO THE GROUND BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT ABLE TO GET TO THAT AREA.

UH, THEY COULDN'T GET UP THERE BECAUSE OF THE INCLINE OF THE HILL.

SO THEY HAD TO COME THROUGH OUR YARDS, MY NAME, MY YARD, AND MY NEIGHBORS TO GET TO THE BACK, UH, TO PUT THE FIRE OUT.

AND ALL THEY COULD DO IS PUT THE GRASS FIRE OUT BECAUSE IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET BACK THERE.

BURN TO THE GROUND.

UH, TECHNICALLY IT'S, UH, IT'S ON OUR PROPERTY.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION TO.

I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

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IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IT'S BACK AGAINST MY FENCE.

AND I HAVE SOME PICTURES IF I COULD SHOW THOSE PICTURES TO YOU.

UM, THERE'S, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO PLUG IT IN HERE.

I HAVE, YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE COPY, HARD COPY OF PICTURES.

YOU CAN PASS THOSE OUT TO, LET ME ASK YOU THIS OVERHEAD.

JOHN, ARE YOU IN THE WHITE, THE HOUSE WITH THE WHITE STRUCTURE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE? THAT'S THE POOL.

IS THAT THE POOL? OKAY.

THAT'S THE STRUCTURE BEHIND OUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THE VOLLEYBALL COURT FOR.

I SEE THAT BEING A CHALLENGE.

OH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, SO THEY ALREADY HAVE IT UP THERE? YEAH.

WELL THEY DON'T HAVE THE ROOF ON IT, BUT IT STRUCTURE'S UP SAYING, OKAY, YES.

STRUCTURE'S UP, BUT THE ROOF'S NOT ON.

DID THEY BUILD THAT OR WAS IT THERE? THEY, YES, THEY PUT IT UP.

THEY JUST PUT IT UP.

THEY HAVE JUST PUT IT UP.

I, UH, THERE'S OTHER PICTURES ON HERE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

DID THE STRUCTURE GET APPROVED? NO, IT, THERE IS A COPE AND CODE CASE.

SAVANNAH ACTUALLY JUST REMINDED ME THERE IS AN OPEN CODE CASE, UM, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE HAVING TO COME BEFORE ZBA AND GET THEIR BUILDING PERMITS.

SO, OKAY.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME PICTURE.

LET ME GET, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER PICTURES HERE THAT, UH, THIS IS THE, THESE ARE ALL VIEWS FROM YOUR BACKYARD ACROSS THE POOL TO THE STRUCTURES.

THIS IS THE VIEW FROM PATSY BURN'S BACKYARD.

WHICH IS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

GOTCHA.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE.

UH, I WAS TRYING, HERE IS A, A PICTURE OF THE BUILDING, THE STORAGE BUILDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT IT, YOU CAN SEE THE, ALONG THE BACK FENCE.

NOW WE'RE BUILDING A COMMERCIAL AREA AND THIS IS OUR CONCERN.

IS THE, NOW IS THE STRUCTURE UP FOR THIS CARPORT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR NO, I, I BELIEVE, AND DORA MAYBE CAN CLARIFY THIS, THE CARPORT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT WHITE BUILDING THERE OF THE WHITE BUILDING THERE.

THE WHITE BUILDING THERE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THE CARPORT.

AND THAT'S NOT REALLY THE THING Y'ALL HAVE THE ISSUE WITH.

YOU HAVE THIS, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

AND THE ISSUE WITH THE STRUCTURE GOING UP OVER A VOLLEYBALL COURT.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.

NOW WE CAN ONLY HEAR WHAT'S BEFORE US.

AND RIGHT NOW WE GOT IT ALL KIND OF MUMBLED UP TOGETHER.

BUT TALKING TO THE APPLICANT, RIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S, SHE'S READING THE TEA LEAVES PRETTY WELL, BUT IF SHE WANTS HER CARPORT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE THE OTHER THING.

AND, AND SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO TIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO GET THE CARPORT APPROVED AS NEIGHBORS.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING DOWN HERE AND SPEAKING TO THAT.

SO OFTENTIMES THINGS AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOBODY EVER SHOWS UP.

WE'RE NOT THAT EXCITING, UH, DOWN HERE.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME DOWN AND, AND, AND DO HEAR, HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.

I WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.

UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE DORA HAS, HAS BROUGHT THIS UP AND, AND REALIZES THERE GONNA BE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE ON GETTING IT ALL IN ONE SWOOP.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TABLE HER, GET THIS SQUARED OUT, SQUARED OUT.

I WANT HER TO PERSONALLY, I WANT HER TO DEAL STUFF.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES, I GET THAT THE, THE VOLLEYBALL COURT AND THAT STRUCTURE IS JUST DRIVING YOU NUTS? UH, IT'S NOT LEGAL RIGHT NOW.

NO.

I MEAN THEY HAVE HAD VOLLEYBALL GAMES DOWN THERE.

SURE.

THEY'RE NOT DISRUPTIVE AND HAD NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH THEM.

SO TO ANSWER MR. DEPO'S QUESTION, YES, IT'S NOT TERRIBLY DISRUPTIVE WHEN THEY PLAY.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY WERE WELL BEHAVED AND THEY HAD COOKOUTS AND VOLLEYBALL GAMES AND STUFF DOWN THERE WITH THE LARGE GROUP.

WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

NO PROBLEM.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

NO PROBLEM HAVING A VOLLEYBALL COURT IN THE BACKYARD.

JUST A BIG MONOLITH.

I HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH STEEL IN THE BACKYARD.

MM-HMM.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

I UNDERSTAND.

THERE'S CONCRETE ALREADY.

IN ONE OF THE PICTURES IT LOOKED LIKE, IS THE CEMENT ALREADY DOWN THERE TOO? IS WHAT? IS THE CEMENT ALREADY DOWN THERE? YES.

THE CONCRETE'S ALREADY THERE.

GO BACK TO ANOTHER PICTURE.

I MEAN, ONE OF THOSE PICTURES THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS CEMENT, I NO ONE SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT YEAH, THEY'RE PLAYING.

THEY PLAY ON IT.

SO THERE'S YEAH, THERE'S CONCRETE THERE.

SO THERE'S CONCRETE DOWN THERE NOW.

AND, AND, AND NOW, NOW THEY'RE BUILDING THE STRUCTURE OVER THE CONCRETE.

SO, SO IT'S NOT REALLY THE CONCRETE IN THAT PART.

IT'S THE STRUCTURE IS THE ISSUE.

IT'S THE STRUCTURE.

THE CONCRETE.

OKAY, I'M JUST ASKING.

YOU CAN HAVE A PATENT PACK, RIGHT SLIDE.

LIKE CONCRETE WILL GO THROUGH PER BUILDING PERMITS.

BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA COME BEFORE Y'ALL.

IT'S WHEN IT STARTS GOING VERTICAL.

YEAH, I KNOW.

I JUST WAS ASKING, JUST ASKING.

IT'S GONNA CONCERN MR. INE 'CAUSE APPARENTLY HIS DAUGHTERS DIE A LOT ON THAT CONCRETE.

PRETTY DARK.

HE IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE DAUGHTERS ON THIS STUFF.

BUT TO BE CLEAR, BRITTANY, THE STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, OH, SORRY JOHN.

THAT WAS ME.

WE'RE GOOD.

THE STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY UP AT THE MOMENT IS NOT BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.

IS THAT A PART OF THIS PACKAGE? SO THE BUILDING, THE WHITE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETELY BUILT, BUILT, NOT THE WHITE BUILDING THIS STEEL, THIS IS THE STEEL CANOPY AND THE VARIANCE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS FOR THE WALL HEIGHT OF THIS.

SO THAT IS BEFORE YOU, SO THERE ARE THREE VARIANCES BEFORE YOU, TWO OF THEM ARE FOR THE CARPORT.

JOHN? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THEM UP HERE? ANYTHING? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UP FOR JOHN.

PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR

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DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET BACK WITH HER IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT WHILE SHE'S ANSWERING QUESTIONS, I DIDN'T LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU SIR, FOR COMING DOWN.

AND THEN I'M BRITTANY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME ON UP.

I'M GONNA SWITCH OVER.

YOU SWITCHED TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT'S CLEAR IN THIS CASE TO HAVE A VISUAL.

AND I APPRECIATE THE VISUAL.

'CAUSE WITHOUT THAT VISUAL WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANY IDEA ABSOLUTELY.

THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WERE LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

SO YOUR QUESTION TO HER IS, SO THE BIG STEEL STRUCTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN NUMBER FOUR, IT'S NUMBER FOUR.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

AND THEN SOMEBODY OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING HAPPENED.

IT'S GOT, AND NOW IT'S IN STOCK.

THEY GOT A WORK STOP ORDER FROM CODE.

THEY'VE ALREADY, YET, WHICH HAS COME BEFORE US.

IS THE HEIGHT OF IT WHERE IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT IS, IS THAT WITHIN REASON FOR A VARIANCE? SO THE VARIANCE BEFORE YOU FOR IT, LEMME JUST SEE IF I CAN DO IT.

UH, THE VARIANCE BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE WALL HEIGHT.

SO WE CAP WALL HEIGHTS AT 12 FEET.

SO THE OVERALL HEIGHT CAN GO UP TO 22.

BUT THE WALL HEIGHT CANNOT EXCEED 12 BECAUSE WE, WE LOOK AT PEAK TO GRADE FOR OVERALL HEIGHT.

SO WALL HEIGHT HAS TO BE A LITTLE SHORTER.

THEY'RE AT 15 FEET.

SO THEY'RE COMING IN FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE WALL HEIGHT OF THE WALL HEIGHT ONLY.

SO THE ROOF PART OF IT IS OKAY.

WOW.

IF THAT IS 19 FEET, 'CAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.

SO, AND IF WHATEVER GETS APPROVED OR NOT GETS APPROVED, WHATEVER GETS PERMITTED, WE DO HAVE INSPECTORS GO OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS OUT THERE MATCHES WHAT WAS APPROVED.

BUT IF THAT TRULY IS 19 FEET, THEN THAT IS WITHIN ARTICLE SIX, BUT THE WALL HEIGHT IS NOT PERMITTED.

GOT IT.

WITHOUT A VARIANCE.

SO WHAT OTHER CLARIFICATIONS DO WE KNOW? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S BEFORE US AND WE CAN'T UNTANGLE IT FROM UP HERE IF THERE'S TWO OR THREE ISSUES BEFORE IT.

COUNSEL, YOU GOT ANY CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO HERE? I WAS READING THE ORDER AND THE APPLIC, SORRY.

OH, MIC UP.

I'M READING THE ORDER AND THE APPLICATION.

UM, IT DOES, IT IS UNCLEAR.

UM, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT THE WALL IS THE ONLY THING I ISSUE BASED ON THE ORDER AND WELL, WAS THE APPLICATION FOR ONLY THE HEIGHT, THE WALL HEIGHT? OR IS IT A SO THE WALL HEIGHT IS FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THE OTHER TWO ARE FOR THE CARPORT.

SO THE WIDTH AND THE AREA FOR THE CARPORT.

WELL LOOK, I AGREE THAT THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE CASE TWO CASES AGO.

AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE RECORD THAT IS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT SEEMS TO BE UNDER WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WE TABLE THIS AND THAT WE, IF, UH, THE, THE BEST BET IS PROBABLY TO CLARIFY THIS RATHER THAN TRYING TO MODIFY THIS.

ON THE SPOT HERE.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA ASK MS. AMEZ TO COME BACK UP IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

COULD YOU COME BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE, DORA? YES, PLEASE.

SO IT'S KIND OF CONVOLUTED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE A PROBLEM.

TWO ON THE CARPORT MM-HMM .

AND ONE ON THE, UH, OVER THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

STRAIGHT SEVEN UPS, SO I CAN'T PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

AND VOLLEYBALL COURT.

THE HEIGHT OF THE WALLS, YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH YOU HAVING A CARPORT ON THAT WHITE BUILDING.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT SIZE AND THE, THE OTHER STUFF.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM YOUR OWN TESTIMONY, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING FIRST TO GET YES SIR.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

WE CAN GO BUY A COUPLE UMBRELLAS AND DEAL WITH VOLLEYBALL COURT, BUT YES.

UM, SOUNDS LIKE THEY CERTAINLY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM.

MAN'S GOT A POOL RIGHT AGAINST THE FENCE AND HE'S OKAY WITH HIM PLAYING BACK THERE.

IT'S JUST HAVING A STRUCTURES WHAT SCARES HIM.

SO I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY FOR US TO DO, AND I'M SORRY FOR THE CHALLENGE, BUT I, I WANT EVERYBODY TO, I WANT GOOD NEIGHBORS TO GET ALONG AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO GET IT PASSED THROUGH WITHOUT COMPLICATIONS.

BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ASK US TO TABLE THIS TONIGHT.

IF YOU DO AND WE VOTE TO TABLE IT, YOU CAN GET WITH BRITTANY AND THE JUNE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CLEAN UP THIS CARPORT.

AND WE'RE NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT BUILDING MORE STRUCTURE OVER THE VOLLEYBALL COURT RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU WANT TO GET PROJECT A TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE.

I MEAN, IF THAT WINDS UP JUST BEING THAT CONCRETE WHERE SHE'S GONNA PLAY THAT, THAT MAY BE WHAT WE WIND UP DOING ON THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S, YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEIGHBORS REALLY CHALLENGED WITH BUILDING SOMETHING THAT BIG BACK THERE OVER THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

BUT WITH IT ALL TOGETHER, IT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT UP OR STRAIGHT DOWN.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET

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YOU DO IT.

IF YOU WANT US TO TAKE THE VOTE TONIGHT AND YOU WANT TO ROLL YOUR DICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT IF YOU WANNA REQUEST A TABLE, I KNOW THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS ABOUT WANTING TO WORK WITH WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO.

AND THE BIGGEST THING I CAN TELL YOU IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE STAFF.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL ABOUT TELLING YOU STUFF.

THEY RUN INTO A HARD THING WHEN YOU'VE GOT APPLICANTS THAT DON'T WANNA LISTEN, THAT DON'T WANNA WORK WITH, IF YOU WORK WITH US, WE'RE GRAND PRAIRIE'S A GOOD TOWN TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THINGS.

AND WE, WE WANNA BE GOOD FOR YOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS TOO, SO EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.

SO IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT US TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A VOTE RIGHT NOW AND JUST SEE WHERE YOUR CARDS LIE.

BUT IF, IF IT FAILS, IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS BEFORE YOU COULD EVEN COME BACK.

OR YOU CAN SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE TABLE THIS TOMORROW.

YOU CAN BE ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE PHONE WITH BRITTANY AND, AND JUNE AND FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE GET THIS CARPORT THING CLEANED UP SO THAT YOU SAW US ON SEVERAL OF 'EM.

IF, IF STAFF CAN RECOMMEND OR NOT RECOMMEND WHAT IT, SOMETIMES WE VOTE, VOTE AGAINST THEM, BUT IT, IT CAN'T HAVE VOTES.

AND I WANT TO BE FAIR WITH YOU.

SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS RIGHT NOW? UH, WELL, UM, SEE, LIKE I SAY BEFORE I CAME FOR THE CAR, OKAY, I, I HAVE NO IDEA THAT THE, THE VOLLEYBALL COURT IS GONNA YEAH, IT GOT LAYERED ONTO IT.

YEAH, IT IS.

THAT IT WAS, IT WAS SIDE ON.

THIS IS THE FIRST THING.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT, I MEAN, IF YOU CONSIDER THE LOT, UH, I MEAN THE LOT SIZE THAT I HAVE, UM, I MEAN I THINK THAT IT IS ALSO, UH, HOW CAN I SAY IT? I'M SORRY.

MY ENGLISH IS NOT PERFECT.

NO, YOU YOU, YOU'RE DOING JUST FINE.

I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

SO, SO THE LOT SIZE, I MEAN, IS IS BIGGER ENOUGH FOR ME TO HAVE ALL THESE THINGS? UH, NUMBER THREE, UH, YES.

I WILL, I WILL LIKE TO TABLE THIS OKAY.

AND, UM, WORK WITH THEM AND SEE HOW WE, WE GET APPROVAL AND WE GET SEPARATE THE CARDBOARD THAN THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO COME WITH A CLEAN CARPORT THING FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

WHICH YOU CAN DO IF WE TABLE.

AND I PERSONALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM VOTING FOR YOU TO GET THAT CARPORT THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE WILL WORK ON THE FOOTAGE, MAKE, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WORKING ON IT.

BUT THAT'S STEP ONE.

BUT ACTUALLY THAT'S STEP TWO.

STEP ONE WOULD BE THE TABLE TONIGHT.

AND THEN YOU WORK IT OUT.

BUT ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE SAYING YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WAS JUST THE CARPORT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE FILLING OUT CARDS AND UPSET ABOUT ROOFS OR I GET IT, IT IT, IT KIND OF, BEFORE IT GOT AWAY FROM US.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR, UH, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD WITH MS. EZ BEFORE THEN? BASED ON THAT, BASED ON YOUR REQUEST FOR TABLE, THEN I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO DO JUST THAT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THIS BOARD TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZBA 2 3 0 4 0 0 2 4.

AND TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THEY CAN BRING IT BACK.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. INE, A SECOND FOR MS. ALCON RODIER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION BEFORE US RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

MOTION PASSES BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

ANYONE ELSE HERE UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS? I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY THAT MS. HUTCHINS, MR. HUTCHINS, I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE.

UH, OH.

PERSON IN OPPOSITION MENTIONED ABOUT FIRETRUCK NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON FOR SIDE YARD SETBACKS IS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

EMERGENCY VEHICLES WELL SPOKEN.

WELL SPOKEN.

WE KIND REALLY JUST LET 'EM DO IT A LOT OF TIME, BUT WE OUGHT TO WATCH OUT FOR THOSE TWO LITTLE AS A GUIDELINE IF THEY CAN'T GET IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE POINT AND, AND, AND A GOOD REFRESH FOR EACH OF US ON THESE SIDE BACKS.

WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET AWAY WITH THE ZERO ON ON SOME OF 'EM THAT THE APPLICANTS PUT OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T AS, AS, AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, YEAH.

BURNED TO THE GROUND.

THEY JUST WATCHED IT BURN.

COULDN'T GET BACK THERE.

UH, MR. RIPPA, GO AHEAD SIR.

YES, I WOULD.

THIS IS TO STAFF BECAUSE OF THE, UH, IMPORTANCE OF THIS, UH, NECESSARY EMERGENCY EXIT.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF DURING THE NEXT, UH, PRESENTATION YOU LOOK AT IT AS A PART OF THE COMP SITE RECOMMENDATION, THE WAY TO, TO GET ACCESS THROUGH EMERGENCIES.

IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO FOLLOW OUR NEXT STEPS.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TONIGHT? I HAVE NO CITIZEN COMMENT CARDS.

MS. GOMEZ, IF YOU'LL FILL OUT A CARD WITH A YOUNG LADY IN BLUE JUST SO WE HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD.

AND I'M SURE THE STAFF WILL WANNA BE IN,

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IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.