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IT IS MARCH 21ST AT FOUR 30.UH, TABLE RIDGE GOLF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, SO WE CONTRACTED WITH A CONSULTANT, UH, I, BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, THOSE, YOU DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL TODAY.
UH, FOR ONCE, AFTER US STEALING 105 EMPLOYEES FROM ELI
DWAYNE HAS DECIDED TO RETIRE SO HE CAN START DRAWING HIS PMRS AND HE CAN DO THAT IF HE GOES TO WORK FOR ANOTHER CITY.
SO HE'S GOING TO WORK FOR ELI.
SO, UM, UH, WE'RE HAPPY FOR HIM.
UH, IT'S WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM, SO, UM, I'M NOT, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY'S READ THEIR EMAILS AND GOT THAT NOTICE OVER.
UM, SO, UM, A WHILE BACK, WE, WE, UH, WITH, WITH, UM, DIRECTION FROM THE FINANCING GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE, WE REACHED OUT TO THE CONSULTANT CALLED JJ KEGAN.
HE'S ONE OF THE TOP CONSULTANTS IN THE COUNTRY TO EVALUATE GOLF COURSES AND, AND FIND OUT ARE YOU HEALTHY? AND IF YOU ARE, GREAT, IF YOU'RE NOT, HOW CAN WE GET YOU HEALTHY? SO WE, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS TO THE F AND G COMMITTEE, AND WE'RE READY TO COME FORWARD TO THE, TO THE, UH, THE FULL COUNCIL.
UH, 'CAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION, UM, ON, ON, ON HOW WE WANNA GO FORWARD.
AND SO, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UH, GOLF OPERATIONS IS, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO, THE, THE, UH, THE CITY, UM, THE COURSE SALES TAX SUPPLEMENTED OR INVESTED HEAVILY INTO THE GOLF PROGRAM TO THE AMOUNT OF WELL OVER $600,000.
WHEN YOU HIT THAT 2021, OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT WAS THE COVID, THAT'S WHEN OUR PARK SYSTEM EXPLODED.
THAT'S WHEN GOLF COURSES ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE COUNTRY EXPLODED.
EVERYBODY WANTED TO GET OUT THERE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PICK IT BACK UP, OR THEY WANTED TO LEARN.
BUT OVER THE, OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A, A, AN AMAZING TREND.
IN THE END OF 21, WE ARE IN THE BLACK AT 12,000, AND AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE'RE IN THE BLACK, UH, 224,000.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT CONTRIBUTE? COVID DID A LOT, BUT WE ALSO, THERE'S A NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING THAT NOT ONLY MARKETS OUR ROUNDS, BUT HELPS US MANAGE OUR TSHEETS WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN MAXIMIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE IN THE COURSE STAFF IS EXCITED ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE, UH, THE UPWARD MOVEMENT, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN BASED ON JJS RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE THINGS TO CONTINUE THAT PATH FORWARD.
SO, SOME OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS I WANNA COVER REAL QUICK WITH YOU ARE HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RENEGOTIATE THE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT TO RIDE, TO RAISE THE PRIME RATE, THE 75, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL PAY, UH, ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND MORNINGS.
DISCONTINUE OUR ANNUAL PASS REPRICE, OUR AVID GOLFER OR IDEAL GOLFER, AND THOSE ARE OUR PROMOTIONAL PRINTED PART, A COUPON.
AND THEN, UH, ACQUIRE A FOOD TRUCK IN CERTAIN AREAS.
SO THE FIRST ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS TO RENEGOTIATE THE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE BID PROCESS.
SO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IS GO AHEAD AND RENEW MARK'S CONTRACT THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER 24TH.
UH, THAT ALLOWS US ONE A YEAR FOR HIM TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON THE PAST YEAR, UH, TO, UH, TO GIVE HIM HIS TOOLS, BUT ALSO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY IN SPRING OF 24 TO REBID THE OPERATIONS, EITHER OF THE PRO SHOP AND OR OF THE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AND SEE HOW, HOW THAT COMES UP.
AND THAT WILL STILL GIVE US A TRANSITION TIME, UH, FOR EITHER HIMSELF OR THE NEW, THE NEW, UH, VENDOR OR CONTRACTOR TO, TO TRANSITION AS HE IS WRAPPING UP HIS, HIS, UM, HIS SEPTEMBER, UH, 24, UH, CONTRACT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH F AND G ON SOME BENCHMARKING CURRENTLY, UH, THAT WE CAN, THAT WE'RE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT.
AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL BRING THOSE FORWARD TO, UH, OUR NEXT
HE ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE HAD SOME ROOM, UH, IN THE RACK RATE, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, SUNDAY, THE, THE, THE PRIME TIMES.
UH, WE ARE AT 68, WE AGREE, WE'RE GOING TO 75.
UH, AND THEN TO REPRICE, THE AVID GOLFER AND IDEAL GOLFER, THOSE ARE OUR PROMOTIONAL.
SOME OF THOSE ARE IN A COUPON BOOK THAT YOU GET THAT'S PRINTED.
LIKE THE IDEAL GOLFER, WE'RE GONNA GO FROM $29 TO 35.
UH, THE AVID GOLFER WAS ALREADY A COUPON BOOK ALREADY PRINTED, SO WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THAT GOING INTO, UH, INTO 24.
SO HIS RECOMMENDATION ON ANNUAL PASSES IS TO DISCONTINUE.
UH, WHEN STAFF TALKED WITH, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR GOLF PROS FOR GRAND PRAIRIE, AS FOR MOST MUNICIPALS,
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IS WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE ANNUAL PASS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE.IS THERE ROOM TO IMPROVE? AND THE ANSWER TO THIS, SO WE STUDIED SOME OF THE TOP COURSES IN THE DFW AREA.
WE FOUND THOSE THAT ARE COMPARABLE IN PLAYABILITY AS AS RIDGE.
AND SO, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MATCHING THEIR PRICES.
SO FOR INSTANCE, ON ON THE, UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 24 60 FOR THE GOAL, WHICH IS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UH, AND WE'RE ALSO WITH, WITH THAT, WE'RE OFFERING A 10% DISCOUNT FOR OUR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENTS ON OUR SILVER, WHICH IS 1765 DAYS A WEEK.
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WE'RE GOING TO 2,800, SAME MONDAY THROUGH, UH, UH, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
UH, AND WE'RE ALSO OFFERING OUR, OUR, UH, OUR 10% DISCOUNT FOR OUR GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENTS.
WE THINK WE'RE BEING VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE COURSES THAT HAVE THE SAME PLAYABILITY AS
THE OTHER THING THAT MARK HAS TALKED ABOUT, AND, AND SINCE, SINCE THE P RIDGE IS SET WHERE YOU, YOU START ON ONE, YOU COME BACK ON 18TH, YOU REALLY NEVER HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO STOP BY THE PRO SHOP AND, AND, AND GRAB SOMETHING.
THE, SO THESE ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF NAMES FOR 'EM.
BUT THIS WHAT WE'LL GO RIGHT AT, AT, UH, 11, 12, 13, AND SIX.
UH, THIS GIVES YOU A PLACE TO STOP MULTIPLE TIMES AND, AND PICK UP A BEVERAGE, PICK UP SOMETHING QUICK TO EAT.
AND, UH, AND SO WE ARE RENOVATING ONE OF OUR, OUR CURRENT, UH, CONCESSION TRAILERS.
AND HOPEFULLY, UH, BY YOU EARLY SPRING, UH, WE'LL HAVE A, A, A, UH, FOOD TRAILER OUT ON THE COURSE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO A PILOT PROGRAM.
HIS, HIS, UH, UH, HIS GOAL IS ON, ON THE PEAK DAYS, WHICH IS WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS.
HE'S GONNA MAN THAT, UH, ALONG WITH HIS BEVERAGE CART.
HE'S GONNA MAN THAT FROM 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW POPULAR AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT IS.
HE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR HIS, HIS, UM, UH, MENU.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS IN THE NEXT YEAR TO TWO TO THREE, IF WE SEE THAT IT IS, IS GROWING POPULARITY, WE MAY COME BACK AND SAY MAYBE IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY BUILD A SMALL, UH, HALFWAY HOUSE THERE WHERE IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A, BE A MOBILE VERSION.
SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT, THAT, THAT JJ TALKED ABOUT, OR, OR SOME OF THE SAME THAT, THAT SEAN AT THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL AS MARK IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE CART PATH ON NUMBER 12, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, BUT WE LOOKED AT BUCK REDUCTION, THAT HELPS WITH MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS PLAYABILITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON OUR DRIVING RANGE IN OUR SHORT GAME AREA, UH, REMOVING SOME TREES AND DOING SOME TREE TRIMMING, SOME FAIRWAY MOWING PATTERNS, LOOKING AT THAT.
BUT ALSO OUR LONG RANGE PLANS FOR GOLF.
UH, THE, THE, THE GREENS RENOVATION, UH, BOTH OF THOSE HAVE ABOUT A, A FIVE, FIVE YEAR, UM, LIFE THAT WE'RE GONNA START PUTTING THOSE IN OUR FIVE YEAR EXTENDED PLAN.
THOSE ARE, ARE A BIG DOLLAR, BUT WE KNOW THAT GREENS AND THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM DO HAVE A LIFESPAN.
ALL THOSE ARE THE TOP, THE TOP OF THE ONES THAT ARE ALL ON COMPETITIVE, ARE ALL BUDGETED.
SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THOSE.
OTHER THING THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT IS WHAT CAN WE DO WITH OUR CLUBHOUSE? UH, THE CONSULTANT, THE PRO, EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME VIEW, IS YOU CAN DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS EXPAND IT TO THE WEST, MAKE, MAKE THAT THAT AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE, IT IS BETTER USABLE ALL THE WAY TO MAYBE WE, WE JUST, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WIPE IT CLEAN, START OVER WITH OR WITHOUT A RESTAURANT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UH, WE CAN MOVE IT, UM, AND, AND PUT IT IN DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE YOU GET DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE COURSE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR CURRENT CLUBHOUSE.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TALK ABOUT STARTING WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND STUDY IT, SEE IF THERE'S A RESTAURANT THAT WILL WORK OUT THERE.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? EITHER, YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT TIME TO DO SOMETHING NEW? AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SO THAT CONSULTANT, THAT'S A PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
BUT THAT WOULD GIVE US THE, THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S HERE, WE STUDIED IT AND HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD.
SO WHAT WE, WE JUST WANNA WRAP UP IS WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THE FEE CHANGES, WHICH IS OUR RACK GRADE, UM, OUR, OUR, UH, THE ANNUAL PASSES.
UH, AND THOSE WE'D LIKE TO, TO KICK IN APRIL 1ST.
UH, AND SO IF WE CAN, UH, JUST GET SOME APPROVAL FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL THAT, BECAUSE WE, YOU WILL GET PHONE CALLS.
WE KNOW THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING UP, WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR ANNUAL PASSES, THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE, UH, FIVE, UH, CITIZENS THAT HAVE A GO PASS, FIVE CITIZENS THAT HAVE THE SILVER PASS.
SO IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE KNOW YOU ARE GONNA BE GETTING SOME PHONE CALLS.
WE DO THINK IT, IT IS NECESSARY, IT'S TIME TO DO OUR P INCREASES.
THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME, BUT WE THINK THAT NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT, TO CONTINUE THAT, THAT PATH FORWARD AND TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR GOLF INDUSTRY PUZZLE.
HEY, UH, CHAIRMAN, DID Y'ALL, I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL HAVE BEEN LOOKING THIS
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FOR A WHILE.DID Y'ALL COME UP WITH A CONSISTENT CONSENSUS OR RECOMMENDATION? THANK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IT.
MY, MY OTHER MEMBERS CAN JUMP IN IF I SAY ANYTHING THAT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COLLECTIVE DECISION.
BUT WE SPENT HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS LOOKING AT THIS AND, AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS A HUGE ADVOCATE BECAUSE HE'S A GOLFER AND HE'S OUT THERE A LOT.
SO IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE HIS INPUT.
UH, HONESTLY, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT, I WAS READY TO BE OUT OF THE GOLF BUSINESS.
AND, UH, WITH GOING INTO IT WITH THAT MINDSET, THE VERY LAST THING F AND G WAS LOOKING AT DOING WAS ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE STUDY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT, THAT, THE CONSULTANT WAS JUST AMAZING.
THAT GUY KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT GOLF AND BUSINESS AND WAS VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
AND SO WE FOUND HIS STUDY TO, TO, TO BE INCLUSIVE.
WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES RIGHT HERE.
WE LOVE STAFF'S IDEA OF USING A TEMPORARY CONCESSIONS TRAILER INSTEAD OF BUILDING A TRAILER OUT THERE.
UH, THE FACT THAT THE, THE PASSES, THERE'S ONLY 10 RESIDENTS THAT ARE DOING THAT.
UH, WE, WE LOOKED AT, GO AHEAD, GO TO YOUR FIRST CHART, PLEASE, SIR.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.
WE LOOK AT 2020 WHEN, WHEN TANGLE RIDGE LOST $506,000.
THAT'S KIND OF THE ACTIONS NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TYPE SCENARIO.
WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT AND DURING THAT YEAR, WE HAD ROUGHLY 55,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF, WHICH MEANS THE OVERALL CITIZENSHIP OF GRAND PRAIRIE SUPPLEMENTED EVERY ROUND OF GOLF OUT THERE ABOUT $9.
SO EVERYBODY THAT PAID PLAYED GOLF, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE WAS PAYING $9 OF THE GREEN.
I KNOW THAT'S HIGHER, THAT'S LOW, BUT IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN COVID REALLY HELPED A LOT.
BUT, BUT TRULY WHO'VE THOUGHT
AND THOSE RESULTS ARE PHENOMENAL.
UH, WE, WE DON'T EXPECT THOSE TO, TO CONTINUE TO DOUBLE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
BUT, BUT F AND G WAS CERTAINLY REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTIONS AND IS IS IS IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
I DON'T GET TO PLAY OUT THERE ANYMORE.
UM, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I WENT OUT THERE, TOOK REBECCA OUT THERE, SHE THOUGHT WE WERE IN THE HILL COUNTRY.
SHE HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S INPUT, KURT COLE, JEFF, AND, UH, THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME THAT Y'ALL WENT FOR THAT.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NO, I THINK Y'ALL SPENT ENOUGH TIME KICKING AROUND.
I THINK IT'S OKAY WITH ME SINCE THEY'VE RECOMMENDED IT UNANIMOUSLY SPENT ALL THIS TIME.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND LET DWAYNE GO FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN.
IN THREE TO SIX MONTHS, WE'LL COME BACK ON THE FEASIBILITY RESULTS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE.
CINDY, WE'RE GONNA TAG THIS ONE.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, CONVERSATIONS ON, ON FOOD TRUCKS, AND I THINK JEAN AND I CAN, CAN KIND OF BRING ALL THIS TO A, TO A, A GOOD, UH, GOOD LANDING POINT.
WE THINK WE'VE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UH, BUT WE SURE.
SO, UH, I, I'LL START IT AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, UH, TURN IT OVER TO CINDY AT, AT, AT THE VERY END.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PARK SITES, PARK EVALUATIONS, THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, ARE THERE CURRENT OR IS THERE A PLACE FOR A FUTURE, UH, UH, FOOD PARK OR FOOD TRUCK.
UM, PAD SITE IS, DO I HAVE A WAY TO, TO, UH, CONTROL LITTER? IS THERE PLENTY OF OF RECEPTACLES AROUND? IS THERE CROWDS? WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PARKS, BUT THEY DON'T, THERE'S NOT A BIG CROWD THERE THAT IS GONNA BE, BE, UH, ATTRACTIVE TO A, A FOOD TRUCK.
UH, AND THEN RESTROOMS IS THEY HAVE TO BE, THERE'S GOTTA BE A RESTROOM CLOSE.
UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PURCHASING THE FOOD, BUT ALSO THE, THE VENDORS THAT ARE DOING IT.
SO WE EVALUATED, UH, FIVE KEY PARTS.
THE FIRST PARTS THAT, THAT WE EVALUATED ARE WHAT WE CALL THE, UH, PROTECTED AND ALL THAT ALL THE PROTECTIVE PARTS MEANS IS, AND THOSE ARE MOST OF OUR ATHLETIC COMPLEXES.
AND THESE ARE, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH OUR YOUTH YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION.
SO WHETHER IT'S BOYS BASEBALL OR SOFT, UH, SOFTBALL OR SOCCER, FOOTBALL, UH, ALL OF THESE, THEY RUN THEIR OWN.
AND THAT THOSE FUNDS GO BACK INTO THEIR, THEIR, UH,
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BUDGETS.AND THAT HELPS KEEP THE, THE FEES FOR THE KIDS LOW.
IT ALSO HELPS THE SCHOLARSHIP.
THEY, THEY RING THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, PROFIT LOSS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ONCE A YEAR.
WE REVIEW THOSE, WE ASK QUESTIONS, IT'S ALL IN THE SAME FORMAT.
UH, AND SO, NOT THAT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT DOES ADD TO THEIR, TO THEIR ABILITY TO HELP WITH THE PROGRAM.
WE WANT TO LEAD THOSE LIKE THEY ARE AND NOT HAVE ANYBODY COMPETE AGAINST THEM.
UH, AND SO THESE WILL GO THROUGH REALLY QUICK, THIS IS THE, THE CHARLIE TAYLOR OR THE DANNY BOYKIN BASEBALL COMPLEX.
UM, IT, IT, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE VOICE.
MIKE LEWIS IS SOFTBALL SLASH BASEBALL.
UH, THE, THE VOICE BASEBALL HAS THE, THE CONCESSIONS ON THAT.
SO WE WANT THE WANT TO PROTECT THAT AREA.
YEAH, MC PAUL'S EAST OR THE GENTLEMAN MC PAUL'S, UH, SOFTBALL.
THAT'S OUR GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION.
THEY, THEY HAVE THE CONCESSIONS THERE.
AND THEN ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE, THIS IS THE JUNE CAMPBELL BASEBALL COMPLEX.
UH, OUR, OUR OUR YOUTH FOOTBALL, UH, HAS PARK HILL, UH, FOOTBALL COMPLEX.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE THE, THE TACKLE FOOTBALL, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR, THEIR YOUTH FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUES THAT, THAT TAKE PLACE AT PARK HILL.
UH, AND THEN, UH, CP WAGNER, THAT'S OUR, OUR OTHER BASEBALL COMPLEX.
AND THAT ONE HAS BOYS BASEBALL.
AS, AS THE, UH, THE CONCESSION HERE, OUR, OUR YOUTH SOCCER COM, UH, FIELD, UH, ASSOCIATION, I'M SORRY, RUNS THE CONCESSIONS AT, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT, THAT, THAT WE SAY, LET, LET'S LEAVE THOSE ALONE.
YES, THEY HAVE BIG CROWDS, JUST, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE, UH, UH, RESTROOMS. BUT LET, LET'S LEAVE THOSE FOR THE, FOR THE
UH, SO WE, WE'VE COME UP WITH, WITH A COUPLE PARKS THAT WE WANT TO USE AS KIND OF A PILOT PROGRAM.
UH, AND, AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES HERE.
MEAT FAMILIA IS, IS, UH, IS ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED.
IT WILL BE DESIGNED WITH, UH, TWO FOOD, FOOD TRUCK SLOTS, UH, THAT WILL BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES, WHICH BOTH PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES AND LEAN CREEK PARK.
WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
IT'S NOT THE NORMAL YOU APPLY AND, AND IT'S, THERE'S A LOTTERY EITHER PROCESS TO GO THROUGH.
WE, WE HAVE A BID PROCESS, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL ICE AT BOTH OF THOSE.
AND SO, BUT ALL THOSE FUNDS, THOSE, THAT PERCENT OF GROSS REVENUE GOES BACK INTO PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES FOUNDATION, OR GOES BACK INTO THE LAKE PARKS.
AND SO, LET LEMME COVER THOSE REAL QUICK.
THE RED.IS WHERE THE CURRENT FOOD TRUCK, UH, SLOTS ARE BEING DESIGNED.
AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE, UH, UH, COMPLETED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, THERE, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO SLOTS THERE THAT, THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PREPARING CLOSE RESTROOM AND BIG PARK.
SO A LOT GOES ON ON THE WEEKENDS.
THE RED DOT, UH, AT PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES SIDE BY SIDE.
THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS IT IS TO GO.
WE, WE'VE HAD GPSD HAD A FOOD TRUCK THERE ONCE TO SEE IF THEIR CULINARY PROGRAM COULD DO THAT.
SO WE THINK THAT IF WE, IF WE PUT THE FOOD TRUCK RIGHT BY KONA ICE, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT'S AT.
AND THINK ABOUT PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES.
IT'S BUSY FROM SUN UP TO SUN DOWN.
IT'S ALWAYS, SO THAT WILL BE A VERY, THAT, THAT WILL BE AN INTEREST TO OUR, OUR FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS.
SEASONAL BE MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER.
BUT, UH, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE AREAS, AND THESE ARE KIND OF THE THREE THAT WE, WE, UH, BID OUT TO.
KONA ICE IS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE BIG PARKING LOT.
THAT'S, AND WE CAN BREAK THESE UP WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT IS, UH, AREA ONE, TWO, AND THREE, AND YOU CAN BID ON EACH ONE OF 'EM.
SO THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN BREAK THAT UP.
UM, THE, THE ONES ON THIS IS CALLED ONE AND THREE.
THOSE AREN'T AS, AS HEAVILY, UH, POPULATED DAY IN, DAY OUT AS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF SWIM BEACH.
UH, BUT IT IS, SINCE IT IS A ENTERPRISE FUND, WE LOCK FOR ALL THOSE FUNDS TO GO BACK INTO THE, INTO THE LAKE PARK.
UH, SO WHAT, WHAT IS OUR PROCESS? SO THERE'S TWO PROCESS.
THERE'S THE BID PROCESS, BUT THE ONE THAT, THAT WE'D LIKE TO, TO TO PILOT, UM, FOR ME FAMILIAR IS IN JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR.
UH, AND WE'VE GOT THIS MODEL FROM LEWISVILLE.
THEY, THEY KIND OF DO THE SAME THING IN JANUARY.
WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL RELEASE THE, THE INVITATION, WE'LL USE CINDY'S, UH, UH, DATABASE FOR ALL HER.
I THINK SHE HAS A HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED FIFTY FOOD TRUCK.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL RELEASE THAT TO THEM, AND WE'LL, WE WILL SHOW 'EM WHAT WE HAVE BOTH ON THE BID SIDE AND JUST THE APPLICATION SIDE.
AND THEN, THEN WE WILL CLOSE IT.
AND WE'LL, IF IT'S A BID, IT'LL BE BE A SEALED BID.
THAT PROCESS PURCHASING WILL HELP US WITH THAT.
BUT IF IT'S JUST AN APPLICATION, WE'LL GET THOSE IN THE, IN THE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK, IF WE GET MULTIPLES THAT ARE ON THAT, THEN IT, IT IS SOMETHING JUST AS SIMPLE AS IT'S A LOTTERY SYSTEM AND WE CAN HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WORKS ON THAT, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMPLE.
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UH, BUT ON THE BID PROCESS, WE CAN DO THAT AS OF, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO SPRING.SO WE'RE READY FOR OUR BUSY SEASON.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS SPRING WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR A BID FOR BOTH PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES AND WAYNE CREEK.
WE THINK THOSE WOULD BE VERY POPULAR.
UM, UH, FOR OUR A FOOD TRUCK, UH, THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANT WILL HAVE THEIR SPOT.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS FOR THE, THE PILOT FOR EITHER A YEAR, UH, OR FOR A SEASON.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO WOULD BE FOR, FOR THE YEAR.
UH, KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PRIME TIME WHEN EVERYBODY'S OUT THERE.
BUT TO BE, UH, TO BE ELIGIBLE, THE FOOD TRUCK VENDOR, UM, THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AND, AND MEET THE CONDITIONS THERE.
AND IN OUR POLICY, WE, WE HAVE LAID OUT A SERIES OF RULES, AND ALL IT IS, IS WE WANT, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE, GOOD PRODUCT, BE CLEAN AND, AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR STUFF.
UH, ALSO AN EXAMPLE IS, IS DO YOU HAVE ALL YOUR CURRENT PERMITS THROUGH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT? SO HERE, HERE'S JUST, UH, THE FIRST PAGE OF THE POLICY.
IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE PART SITES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
HERE'S THE DATE, HERE'S SOME, SOME, UH, SOME, SOME, UH, LINKS ON HOW TO GET THERE.
YOU CAN READ OH ONE, I CAN READ FOOD TRUCK POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, BUT ON ELIG ELIGIBILITY, ELIGIBILITY IS JUST, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN YOU CURRENT, I HAD TO PUT MY GLASSES ON.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IS SOME BULLET POINTS THAT WE WANT TO HOLD.
THE, UH, THE, THE FOOD TRUCK OPERAT, I TRUST YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOMEBODY READ THE FINE PRINT.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE FOOD TRUCK, UH, PAD SITES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS, UH, VERY EASY.
UH, IT, IT, IT, IT FOLDS DOWN SO THAT THE VENDOR WOULD HAVE HIS OWN LOCK ON IT.
INSTEAD OF SAYING STOP AND SAY SOMETHING LIKE FOOD TRUCK PARKING.
UH, WHEN, WHEN HE PULLS UP, HE UNLOCKS IT, LAYS IT DOWN, PULLS OVER IT, WHEN HE LEAVES, IT'S UP TO HIM, PUT IT BACK UP, LOCK IT.
AND NOW I CAN'T PHYSICALLY GET A FOOD TRUCK IN THERE.
I SEE THE WHEELS TURNING THERE.
WELL, OLIVER'S GONNA WANT THAT.
MAYOR JENSEN, I PICK ME A SPOT DOWN LINE, YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON THAT JUST, WHO'S GOING TO GET OUT AND UNLOCK IT FOR
MR. BECK JUST KEEPS THE KIDS, I'VE GOTTA TELL Y'ALL THE STORY.
ERIC AND I WERE IN ORLANDO FOR THE IIC SHOW YEARS AGO.
IT'S ALWAYS OUT THERE IN ORLANDO.
I HAD JUST BEEN ELECTED MAYOR THAT MAY, AND I PULLED UP AND THERE'S A SIGN THAT SOMEBODY JUST GOT OUT OF A CAR AND PUT THE SIGN UP, RESERVED FOR THE MAYOR.
I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT AND SENT IT TO TOM HART AND I'M, WE PARKED NOT THERE.
WE PARKED AND THE MAYOR PULLED UP AND GOT OUT OF HIS CAR.
I WENT UP, INTRODUCED HIM MYSELF TO HIM.
I SAID, I NEED ONE OF THESE BACK HOME
THEY HAD SOMEBODY IN FRONT OF HIM DO THAT WAS SO FUNNY, CUTE, AND NO, I DON'T NEED THAT.
MENTAL NOTE, MENTAL NOTE, BECAUSE I LIKE TURN IT OVER TO
OKAY, SO LAST TIME WE SPOKE, THERE WAS STILL A FEW ISSUES THAT, UH, WARRANTED SOME MORE DISCUSSION.
UH, THE QUESTION CAME UP, UH, WHY CAN'T FOOD TRUCKS JUST HAVE ONE PERMIT FOR ALL SPECIAL EVENTS? AND SO WE REALLY LOOKED AT THIS AND REALLY THE SPECIAL EVENT, TEMPORARY FOOD PERMIT GIVES THE OPERATORS PERMISSION TO SELL FOOD AT THAT EVENT, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE DISCUSSION CAME UP ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING, OH, THEY'RE PAYING A LOT MORE THAN A FOOD TRUCK PER YEAR.
BUT IN ALL REALITY, SINCE WE DON'T CHARGE FOR CITY EVENTS, SCHOOL DISTRICT EVENTS, OR ANY NON-PROFIT EVENT LIKE A CHURCH CARNIVAL OR SOMETHING, UH, THEN REALLY WE ONLY PERMITTED IN 2022 OR PAID, THERE WAS ONLY, UH, 44 WHO PAID, UH, FOR A FOOD TRUCK PERMIT FOR THAT TEMPORARY FOOD PERMIT.
AND THERE WAS 35 UNIQUE VENDORS.
SO I DOUBT THERE WAS ANYBODY WHO PAID MORE THAN TWO 50 OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR FOR, UH, TEMPORARY FOOD PERMITS.
UM, SO WE ALSO LOOKED AT, OKAY, WE'RE HAVE A FEE FOR A TEMPORARY FOOD PERMIT.
UM, AND THEN IS THERE A FEE FOR NON-PROFIT FOR NON-PROFITS? AND WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AS WELL.
MOST CITIES DON'T CHARGE FOR NON-PROFIT EVENTS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE THE LOWEST HERE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY DESIRE TO CHANGE THAT, BUT JUST TO SHOW THAT WE ARE VERY REASONABLE, UM, AND NOT HAMPERING MOBILE
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FOOD BUSINESS FROM COMING INTO THE CITY.AND I WILL SAY THAT MOST OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE ARE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE EVENTS.
SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO THE QUESTION OF FOOD COMMISSARIES.
YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER CITIES DON'T REQUIRE IT, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT THIS IS FEDERAL LAW AND IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE REMOVAL OF WASTE AND, AND GRAY WATER, UH, GREECE, ET CETERA.
AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERY OTHER DFW CITY, THEY ALL REQUIRE A COMMISSARY CERTIFICATE, UM, FOR REGISTRATION WITH THE CITY.
WE CURRENTLY DON'T REQUIRE IT FOR TEMPORARY FOOD PERMITS.
THAT'S BECAUSE REALLY FOOD TRUCKS ARE A SMALL PART OF TEMPORARY FOOD PERMITS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST GONNA HAVE A TABLE AND SELL WATER AND, UM, SNACKS, UM, PREPACKAGED SNACKS AND SO FORTH.
AND SO IT'S JUST A SUCH A LOW RISK EVENT FOR JUST TWO OR THREE DAYS, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER SOME CITIES, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAW IS, ENFORCE IT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY IS THE BEST THING.
IT PROTECTS OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM AS WELL TO REQUIRE THAT COMMISSARY AND IT HELPS THAT THERE'S A COMMISSARY AVAILABLE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU AND DWAYNE AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, THE PEOPLE WHO WIN THE BIDS AT THE PERMANENT PARK LOCATIONS, WHAT IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP CONSISTENTLY? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO BID, THEY WANT TO BE THERE, BUT WE ALSO DESIRE A FOOD TRUCK TO BE THERE AND THEY'RE ONLY SHOWING UP EVERY OTHER WEEKEND.
ARE WE MAKING ANY, ANY ATTENDANCE GUIDELINES TO MAINTAIN THAT PERMIT IN, IN OUR CURRENT BID DOCUMENT WITH, WITH SAY, SAY, KONA ICE IS, YOU HAVE TO BE HERE AT LEAST THESE DAYS FROM THIS DAY TO THIS DAY, YOU HAVE TO BE HERE THESE DAYS.
NOW IF YOU WANT TO HIT MONDAY AFTERNOON, TUESDAY AFTERNOONS, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
BUT YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO BE HERE THESE DAYS.
THE LAKE IS EASY BECAUSE WE'RE THERE.
WE, WE DON'T, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE AROUND PGA ALSO.
SO, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT BEING THERE, THEN WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, PULL THEIR, YOU KNOW, PULL THEIR BID AND CONTRACTION THEIR ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE BIG, AND THEN, UH, UH, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE SITES LIKE NEW.
FOR ME, THOSE THAT WIN THAT BID ARE PERMANENTLY PARKED THERE.
NOT, BUT, BUT THE ONE, THOSE THAT RECEIVE THAT, WELL, THEY RECEIVE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL PERMIT OR STICKER THAT IS EASILY, I, I LIKE THE, THE LOCKING DEAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL PERMIT ON THEIR VEHICLE BECAUSE IF, IF I'M THAT FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THIS SYSTEM AND I FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND THEN SOME OTHER DUDE JUST PULLS UP, I DON'T WANT THEM GETTING IN A FIGHT ON OUR STREETS.
AND I WANT IT TO BE EASILY IDENTIFIED AS WHO SHOULD BE THERE AND WHO SHOULD NOT BE THERE.
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AND I REALIZE THIS IS A CRAZY WORD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY CALL WITH THE POLICE STATION.
I, I REALIZE WE GOT BANK ROBBERY GOING ON.
IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THAT IN THE SYSTEM FOR A PRIORITY CALL.
NO, I, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I CHOOSE MY WORDS, BUT I THINK THE POLICE, BUT THEY OUGHT TO CALL 9 1 1 AND THEN THE POLICE SAY, WELL THAT LET, LET ME JUST DRIVE BY THERE AND SEE IF IT HAS THAT PERMIT OR NOT.
SO WHAT YOU, WE'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, THEY JUST NEED TO CALL 9 1 1 1.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, IF ALL OF 'EM ARE BUSY, I DON'T WANT, I GET IT.
IT'S MORE LIKELY TO BE A CODE FOR A PARK EMPLOYEE ISSUE.
BUT Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
DWAYNE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THEY'LL GET A PERMIT, UM, FROM US, A MOBILE FOOD PERMIT, JUST LIKE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GO TAKE ASIA TIMES SQUARE.
BUT WE WILL ISSUE A SPECIAL PARK PERMIT FOR THAT TRUCK, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK.
IT'LL BE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE FOR, FOR CODE AND FOR POLICE.
WE WANT THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CHECKING IT CODE POLICE PARTS WHEN THEY DRIVE BY TO CLEARLY SEE THE PERMIT.
SO THEY ONLY HAVE IT'S READILY RECOGNIZABLE, SIR, YOU'RE NOT, MA'AM, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
OUR PATROL OFFICERS THAT ARE PATROLLING THAT AREA ANYWHERE EASILY IDENTIFY WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND, AND THE OTHER SIDE, THEY GOT 10 CUSTOMERS LINED UP, WE DON'T WANNA PULL THEM OFF OF LINE TO SHOW US THEIR PERMIT.
SO YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, THEN WE'LL COME TO YOU, KURT.
MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHY ARE WE DOING, I THINK YOU STATED IT, THEY HAD TO REITERATE, WHY ARE WE DOING, FOR ME FAMILIAR AN APPLICATION TO A BID PROCESS? ME,
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FOR ME IS NOT GONNA HAVE THE CROWDS CONSISTENTLY.UH, IT, IT IS, IT'S REALLY SET UP FOR A BIG SPECIAL EVENT OR MAYBE BIG HOLIDAYS, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT, THAT WEEKEND IN WEEKEND OUT.
I, I WOULDN'T THINK, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, YOU MAY, YOU MAY, YOU KNOW, MAKE DIFFERENT, BUT WEATHER PERMITTED AS A, AS A FOOD TRUCK VENDOR, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I PREPARE ENOUGH, I SELL OUT, I SHOW UP, AND I'M SPENDING MY TIME WISELY AT THE TWO THAT, THAT ARE, HAVE A, A BUILTIN CROWD.
I THINK THOSE ARE VERY, ARE VERY, UH, WILL BE SOUGHT OUT.
MAY HAVE TO GROW A LITTLE BIT, UH, ON WEEKENDS OR HOLIDAYS, BUT A CONSISTENT DAY IN DAY OUT, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE AS, AS AS VALUABLE TO THE, THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR AS THE OTHER TWO THAT, THAT, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE AS A BIG CROWD THERE THE WEEKEND.
AND I, I HAD A LITTLE SUGGESTION THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER RATHER THAN ALLOWING ON THE, THE TWO, UH, LINK CREEK PARK AND UH, PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES, RATHER THAN ALLOWING THE FOOD TRUCK ENTITY TO BUY UP ALL THE PAD SITES, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE JUST RESTRICT THEM TO ONE PAD SITE PER UH, VENUE? ABSOLUTELY.
CAN WE ADD THAT INTO THE, TO THE, UH, I'M SORRY.
SO I, I'M, I'M SURE THAT OBJECTION.
EARLIER ON IN, IN THE PRESENTATION, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, LINK CREEK PARK, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT SITES.
YOU STATED THAT IT'S POSSIBLE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BID FOR ALL THREE SITES AND WIN THE BID FOR ALL THREE SITES.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FAIR.
UM, IF WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMPETITION THAT SOMEONE CAN, CAN WIN ALL THREE SITES, I, I JUST FIND THAT NOT FAIR IN MY OPINION.
SO I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD CHANGE THAT POLICY AND ALLOW FOR THEM TO ONLY HAVE TO RESTRICT EM TO ONE SITE PER UH, PARK.
I, I GET A SUPER REASON PERSON COULD HELP ME WITH THAT, WITH THAT DESIGNATION.
WELL I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, IS THAT, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, BETWEEN NO, NO.
1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1 COMPANY PER SITE, ONLY ONE.
SO IF YOU WANT, LIKE WHAT HE SAID.
SO IF HE HAS THREE TRUCKS, NOT ONE PERSON FOR ALL THREE, HE CAN ONLY SEND ONE OUT, THAT'S IT.
APPLY FOR ONE AND HE CAN RECEIVE ONE.
SO WE OPEN UP, COULD SEE HE COULD APPLY FOR THE OTHER ONE TOO.
HE COULD APPLY FOR PLAYGROUND AND NO, BUT HE COULD HAVE ONE AT PLAYGROUND AND ONE LOCATION WISE.
WE'RE TRACKING WITH YOU JUNIORS ON THOSE TRUCKS ANYWHERE.
SO WE CAN THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND WE'LL, WE WILL IMPLEMENT THAT.
WHAT YOU MIGHT DO, IF THERE'S THREE SITES AT LYNN CREEK AND THERE'S ONLY TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED, THEN YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE 'EM IF EVERYBODY ELSE FOR HAS BEEN EXPENDED ON THE LIST OR THERE ARE NO OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
SEE I THINK THE BID PROCESS AS I UNDERSTAND ONE IS THE PRIME LOCATION, THE OTHER TWO AREN'T MM-HMM
SO, UH, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE BID PROCESS TOO.
IT, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE LAST SUGGESTION, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE, RATHER THAN GIVING THESE ENTITIES THE ENTIRE YEAR FOR THAT BID, THAT WE BREAK IT UP TO MAYBE SIX MONTHS, UH, JUST IN CASE IF THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE APPLYING AND WE'RE SPREADING IT OUT AND GIVING THESE SMALL BUSINESS AN OPPORTUNITY AND, AND I THINK AS A PILOT PROGRAM GOES WE'LL, WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT.
THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CUT THE SUMMER IN HALF WHERE YOU GET THE SPRING AND HALF THE SUMMER AND HALF THE SUMMER IN THE FALL, MAYBE THAT'S, BUT WELL, DWAYNE REMIND HIM THAT FOR LIKE LYNN CREEK, IT WILL ONLY BE SIX MONTHS.
PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES YEAR ROUND.
SO THAT WOULDN'T MAYBE PLAY IN ON THAT ONE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
WHY ONLY SIX MONTHS AT LAND CREEK? WELL, HOW, HOW LONG DO THEY OPEN SEASON? THEY DON'T OPEN UNTIL MARCH, APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER.
OH, BECAUSE IT SHUTS DOWN THEN PRAIRIE MARCH, OCTOBER.
NO, IT DOESN'T SHUT DOWN FOR PRAIRIE LIKES.
COLE, WE AREN'T OPEN DURING THE WINTER OUT THERE.
IT'S NOT NO LLOYD PARK YEAR ROUND.
LYNN CREEK MAR LYNN CREEK'S NEVER BEEN OPEN YEAR ROUND.
WHETHER SHOULD OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THIS.
WELL I WATCHED THEIR, I GUESS I DON'T, BUT SEE I STAY TUNED TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND HE, HE ANNOUNCES WHEN GLEN CREEK IS OPENING UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I, AND I SHARE IT
I YOU WOULD'VE NOT MISSED YESTERDAY HAD YOU BEEN
WELL, BUT LET YOU BE THE CO-AUTHOR OF THAT AMENDMENT.
UH, ALSO IT IS IN BUSINESS, IT'S LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
SO WHEN YOU ARE AT LYNN CREEK PARK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE COME THERE.
AS OPPOSED TO PLAYGROUND ADVENTURES AND WELL, MAYBE
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MORE THAN PLAYGROUND.I KNOW BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT LYNN CREEK GONNA BRING THEIR OWN FOOD TOO THOUGH.
BUT YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE NUMBERS.
SO I LIKE TO RECOMMEND, SUGGEST THAT THE PRICE FOR THAT LOCATION MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SOME, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BID PROCESS, THE BID PROCESS MAY NOT PRICE IT.
THEY GIVE, THEY PAY US A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEY BRING IN.
WELL THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE IS WE'LL SAY WE WON'T, WE WON'T ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS THAN 15% OF YOUR TOTAL GROSS.
THAT'S THE WAY WE DO THE POPCORN DURING PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
WE GET A, WE GET A CUTOFF OF EACH COLONEL.
THE MORE AGGRESSIVE YOU GET WITH YOUR PERCENTAGE, THE BETTER.
CONSIDER AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO BRING UP.
WELL, AND THAT WOULD CONSIDER IT.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE GROSSING THREE TIMES AS MUCH, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THREE TIMES AS MUCH.
AND, AND COUNSEL, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM.
SO I, WE RUN THROUGH THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR'S METHOD THEY'VE USED AT PRAIRIE LIGHTS.
AS WE IMPLEMENT THIS AND RUN THROUGH IT, PLEASE FORWARD THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE GETTING US.
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU SHOULDN'T BE PAYING THE SAME.
YEAH, BECAUSE, AND I THINK AS AN OPERATOR I WOULDN'T MIND 15%.
'CAUSE IF I HAD A BAD DAY, YOU SHARE THAT BAD DAY WITH ME.
YOU KNOW, BAD RAINY DAY, I'M NOT PAYING FULL PRICE.
'CAUSE I ONLY HAD A FEW PEOPLE COME OUT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAD, UM, I KNEW THE COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE RELEVANT WHEN MAKING A DECISION, REVIEWING THE BID.
IF THERE ARE A LOT OF APPLICANTS, HOW ARE YOU GUYS GONNA NARROW IT DOWN? ARE YOU GOING TO TRY THE FOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT GET A GREAT OFFER ON PAPER.
I, I MEAN, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE.
I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT TODAY THERE'S BEEN NOBODY THAT'S BEEN KNOCKING ON MY DOOR THAT WANTS TO BRING A FOOD TRUCK TO PGA OR THE LAKE OR, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HADN'T HAD THAT.
NOW WHEN WE PUT IT OUT THERE, IT MAY PERK SOME INTEREST, BUT I WOULD LOVE THAT IT WILL STILL GO ON THE BID BECAUSE IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL TRY TO DO THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, BEST VALUE AND IF, IF, IF YOUR PERCENTAGE IS ONE, ARE YOU A GRAND PRI VENDOR? SO WE'LL TRY AND MARGINALIZE.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE HOPE THAT'S A PROBLEM.
PURCHASING CAN HELP ME MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT'S, IF THAT IS, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN UH, AND YOU HAVE TO TASTE THE FOOD.
COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, DWAYNE ON THE PARK HILL SLIDE, UM, PARK HILL'S VERY ACTIVE ON THE SATURDAY MORNING AND SATURDAY.
AND I, I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER PARTS.
YOU, I THINK YOU HAD SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PAY ADMISSION SOMETIMES TO GET INTO PARKING FIELD OR DO THEY FEEL NO, TO, TO GET INTO THE, THE FIELDS? YES.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
'CAUSE I KNOW I PASS BY ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS AT THAT PARK AND SOMETIMES THERE'S PEOPLE THAT RUN OUT AT THE, SOMETIMES THEY DO CAR YES.
OR THEY DO SOME TYPE OF SHOW OUT THERE.
OH, WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO ALLOWING, WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS FOR YEAH.
FOOD TRUCKS ON A SUNDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON AN OFF.
THAT'S NOT PART OF THEIR PRIMARY.
AND, AND, AND, AND I WOULD SAY THIS, WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THEIR PERMIT, WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND THEN WE, WE, WE WILL APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THEIR APPLICATION BASED ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND SAY YES.
SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S AN OFF DAY AND IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY WANNA HAVE A FOOD TRUCK, THEN WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH CINDY THAT THAT PERSON HAS TO HAVE ALL THEIR STUFF.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A SPECIAL EVENT.
BUT I, YEAH, OUR CURRENT SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS WOULD COVER THAT OPPORTUNITY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I, YEAH, SO WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT FOR PARK HILL PARK JUST SO IT'S NOT THE DAYS THAT THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HAS.
AND MOST OF THE TIME THAT THE, THE PERSON'S DOING THE SPECIAL EVENT WOULD REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO COME DO THIS.
I'M CHARGE YOU 50 BUCKS TO BE THERE, WHATEVER.
YOU SAID THE ORGANIZERS OF THE SPECIAL EVENT ARE ACTIVE.
BRING US THE FOOD TRUCK, UH, APPLICANTS.
BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
I THINK THIS IS A F GREAT NEXT STEP IN THE FOOD TRUCK DEAL.
I THINK IT'S REAL GOOD FOR NEXT FIRST STEP.
PRESENTATION BROUGHT UP, UH, WHILE WE'RE WAIT, WAITING TO BRING THAT UP.
WE'VE MADE A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS TO THE F AND G COMMITTEE.
ONE WAS A WRAP UP OF LAST YEAR'S ICE RING AND ALSO A PRESENTATION ON A PROPOSAL FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING IT BACK FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE FULL COUNCIL.
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HAS SEEN THESE.SO, UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, ALRIGHT, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE, UH, AN EXPENSE REPORT FROM LAST YEAR'S ICE RINK JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S BROUGHT UP TO DATE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A GRAND TOTAL SPEND OF $170,000.
THIS IS ALL IN, THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE SPENT ON THE ICE RINK THIS YEAR, INCLUDING GETTING THE ICE RINK FROM OUR VENDOR.
UH, WE HAD TO SUPPLEMENT THE POWER THIS YEAR WITH A GENERATOR.
THAT COST IS BAKED IN HERE AS WELL AS THE HELP AND THE FUEL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM OUR FLEET SERVICES.
THEY BAILED US OUT OF A FAIRLY EMERGENCY SITUATION THERE.
UH, STAFFING TO HELP STAFF FOR THE ICE RINK.
UH, ALL OF OUR ODDS AND ENDS THAT WE PURCHASED THROUGHOUT THE TIME RENTAL STOP EVERYTHING.
SO $170,000 ALL IN ON THE ICE RINK THIS LAST YEAR.
IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE THAT CAME DOWN.
WE HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE FOR A VERY FIRST YEAR EVENT.
UM, AT LEAST IN OUR OPINION, FIRST ICE SKATING EXPERIENCE FOR MOST OF THE SKATERS.
UH, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, CAMERON AND I WERE OUT THERE ALMOST EVERY NIGHT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
OUR KIDS HAVE NEVER DONE THIS.
I'VE NEVER DONE THIS FROM GROWN ADULTS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS HERE.
SO REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE.
WE INTRODUCED PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE PEOPLE CAME TO THE ICE RINK AND DISCOVERED THAT DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE HAS A LOT TO OFFER.
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT MORE, MORE TO COME IN DOWNTOWN, BUT THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP FOR US.
WE ALSO SENT OUT A SURVEY FOLLOWING THE, UH, FOLLOWING THE, THE RUN OF THE EYE STRING.
THERE'S OUR MAYOR PRO TIM ON SKATES.
UM, OVERALL EXPERIENCE FOUR AND A HALF STARS.
BASICALLY THE NEGATIVE RESPONSES WE GOT WERE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD RESERVATIONS ON DAYS THAT WE CANCELED DUE TO WEATHER.
UNFORTUNATELY NOT MUCH WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED AND EXPRESSED THAT DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE SURVEY.
UH, LIKELIHOOD TO RETURN ALMOST ALL FIVE STARS.
UH, CONVENIENT HOURS, AGAIN, FOUR AND A HALF STARS.
SO VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK THERE.
WE HAVE SOME GREAT COMMENTS AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
MY KIDS LOVED THE SCENERY, THE MUSIC.
WE CREATED AN EXPERIENCE IN DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE.
THE PICTURES TELL THE STORY, BUT IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND SEE THE SMILING FACES AND HEAR THE LAUGHTER AND SEE THE FAMILIES ENJOYING AN EXPERIENCE IN DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE, IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL.
WE'VE GOT SOME THOUGHTS FOR THE FUTURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT FOR THIS YEAR, IF COUNCIL ADVISES THAT WE GO FORWARD, TURN THE TREE LIGHTING WEEKEND INTO A THREE DAY EVENT.
WE HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE THAT FIRST NIGHT AND THEN WE HAD THE ICE W RINK AND THE TREE UP FOR THE REST OF THE WEEKEND.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE OTHER THINGS TO BRING PEOPLE DOWN.
UH, THERE'S BEEN A BIKE DRIVE AT VAL'S BARBECUE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR OP UH, BRINGING IN OVER A HUNDRED BIKES EACH OF THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THEY'VE BASICALLY OUTGROWN THE SPACE AT VALS.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT.
MAYBE MOVING DOWN TO THIS SITE FOR NEXT YEAR GIVES THEM THE POSSIBILITY TO EXPAND.
SUPPORTS AN INCREDIBLE LOCAL CHARITY.
I'M LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS WITH SOME OTHER LOCAL CHARITIES, UH, FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING ON SUNDAY AND TURNING THIS INTO A REALLY A THREE DAY EVENT WEEKEND, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE ACTIVITIES ON THE WEEKEND.
MAYBE BRING OUT SANTA, NOT JUST THAT FIRST WEEKEND, BUT HAVE HIM OUT THERE EACH WEEKEND.
MAYBE BRING OUT A DJ TO BRING, BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE LIFE TO THE PARTY.
WE HAD MUSIC, BUT IF YOU HAVE A DJ, IT'S A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO DID WAS WE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR RANKING AS A TOP 10 CHRISTMAS TOWN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THIS YEAR.
GOT SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU GUYS.
UH, WE BASICALLY JUST WENT ALONG HERE WITH, WITH THE NUMBER OF SKATERS, UH, WALK-INS AND CHECKED IN THIS YEAR.
WE DID TAKE RESERVATIONS THIS YEAR.
UM, BEING OUR FIRST YEAR, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE CROWDS, BUT WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE RESERVATIONS WITH NO CHARGE AND NO SKIN IN THE GAME.
SO WE HAD SOME WALK-INS, BUT WE ALSO THINK THAT THAT WALK-IN NUMBER WAS DEPRESSED A LITTLE BIT BY PEOPLE LOOKING ONLINE AND SEEING THAT WE WERE SOLD OUT AND THERE'S NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE.
SO WE, WE MAY DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS IF COUNCIL APPROVES US FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND MAYBE EITHER REDUCE RESERVATIONS, TAKE A BIT OF A FEE FOR RESERVATIONS, HALF RESERVATIONS, AND LEAVE ROOM FOR WALK-INS.
AS FAR AS THE OPERATION GO, UH, TIMES, UH, YOU COULD SEE THERE ARE PEAK TIMES STARTED AROUND FIVE O'CLOCK EACH DAY AND THEN REALLY STARTED TO TAPER OFF AROUND EIGHT O'CLOCK, EIGHT 30.
SO MAYBE WE ADJUST HOURS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS ZIP CODES.
70% OF OUR USERS WERE GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENTS.
I THINK THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER THAT SAYS THAT THIS SERVICE, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE AND THEIR RESIDENCE, BUT 30% IS NOT A SMALL NUMBER.
TO KNOW THAT WE BROUGHT PEOPLE IN FROM OUT OF DOWNTOWN OR OUT OF GRAND PRAIRIE TO EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN AND TO EXPERIENCE GRAND PRAIRIE
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WITHIN GRAND PRAIRIE.MOST OF OUR USERS ARE FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.
THAT'S WHERE THE WHERE THE ICE RINK WAS LOCATED.
YOU COULD SEE IT KIND OF TAPERS DOWN AS YOU MOVE SOUTH.
ONE OF OUR GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY ACROSS GRAND PRAIRIE.
TARGET SOME MARKETING TO THE SOUTHERN PARTS OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE, WHO DON'T TYPICALLY THINK ABOUT COMING TO DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR VISITORS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET COME FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THE FARMER'S MARKET.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OTHER GRAND PRAIRIE RESIDENTS KNOW ABOUT THAT.
WE HAD A RELATIVELY SHORT TIME TO MARKET THIS THIS LAST YEAR.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET THE MARKETING OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE WORD OUT TO THOSE AREAS OF TOWN THAT MAYBE DIDN'T EXPERIENCE IT LAST YEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN GRAND PRAIRIE BY THE NUMBERS.
SO WE HAD ABOUT 2,700 TOTAL SKATERS, ABOUT 4,000 PEOPLE IN TOTAL FOOT TRAFFIC.
AND THAT'S PEOPLE WHO VISITED TO WATCH THEIR KIDS, TO WATCH THEIR GRANDKIDS, TO WATCH THEIR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS SKATE, BUT MAYBE DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE SKATE.
THE RING COST WAS ABOUT $171,000.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER COPELAND BROUGHT UP A A METRIC THAT WE FOUND INTERESTING.
AND SO WE BROKE IT DOWN HERE FOR YOU GUYS.
IF YOU TAKE IT COST PER ATTENDEE, WHICH IS THE 4,000 PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DID COME DOWN TO IT.
WE WERE ABOUT $42 AND 75 CENTS PER PERSON.
IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN PER SKATER WHERE IT'S 64 0 2 FIRST YEAR EVENT, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT $9 PER PERSON IN GOLF, IT'S A REALLY BIG NUMBER.
BUT IT WAS A FIRST YEAR EVENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN SOME MOMENTUM WITH THIS.
AND AGAIN, WITH THE, WITH THE SHORT MARKETING WINDOW, WE THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY INCREASE THE ATTENDANCE NEXT YEAR.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS LONGER MARKETING PERIOD, FOCUS ON AREAS OF GRAND PRAIRIE THAT MAYBE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT AND MAKE IT MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR MORE WALKUP AVAILABILITY.
ONE THING THAT WE DID DISCOVER THE LAST TWO DAYS THAT WE WERE OPEN, WE EXTENDED THE HOURS EARLIER IN THE DAY BECAUSE WE HAD HAD TO BE CLOSED FOR SOME CO SOME BAD WEATHER.
AND WE OPENED THOSE UP EACH MORNING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, SAY, HEY, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR WALK-UPS.
THOSE TWO HOURS A WEEK, EXTENDED BOTH DAYS WERE SOME OF OUR BUSIEST TIMES.
THE WORD GOT OUT FROM JUST THAT MORNING TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE.
SO WE'RE CONVINCED THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO GET PEOPLE THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LONGER TIME.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A FEW IDEAS FOR REVENUE.
UM, YOU NOTICE THAT WE STARTED TO DROP OFF AROUND EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.
WE MAY CLOSE FOR PUBLIC SKATING A LITTLE BIT EARLY, PROMOTE THOSE LAST TWO HOURS AS AVAILABLE FOR PRIVATE RENTALS COMPANIES, BALL TEAMS, FAMILIES, TEAM BUILDING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
WE CAN GENERATE A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE WITH THAT POSSIBILITY OF ICE SKATING LESSONS.
AND THEN MAYBE WE CHARGE A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE FOR RESERVATIONS.
ONE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A LITTLE SKIN IN THE GAME AND HOPEFULLY SHOW UP.
BUT TWO, TO DRIVE A LITTLE REVENUE.
NOW NONE OF THESE ARE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD.
NONE OF THESE ARE GONNA COME CLOSE TO RECOUPING THE COST OF OF THE ICE RINK.
BUT THESE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE SEE.
SO WITH THAT, WHAT WE'VE COME TONIGHT IS FOR SOME, UH, DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL, WHETHER YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK FORWARD.
SO AGAIN, YOU, YOU SAID YOU SENT THIS THROUGH F AND G? YES SIR.
DID Y'ALL MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? YES SIR.
I'LL START AT THE END AND THEN I'LL GO BACKWARDS.
F AND G RECOMMENDS NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I MADE THAT VOTE.
COUNCILMAN HUMPHREYS WANTS TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM THAT'S IN HIS DISTRICT AND I TOLD HIM I'D GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO, TO TO TALK AS WELL.
WHEN F AND G FIRST HEARD THE PRESENTATION THAT Y'ALL HEARD, WE WERE REAL EXCITED.
THAT'S A REAL GOOD CHRISTMAS FEEL GOOD STORY RIGHT THERE.
ALL THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE, THE CHRISTMAS TREE, ALL THE STUFF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I WERE SAYING, HOW DO WE MAKE IT BIGGER? HOW, HOW DO WE DOUBLE THE SIZE? YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL FOR IT.
WHEN IT CAME BACK THE SECOND TIME, WE'D HAD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S WHEN COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I CHANGED OUR MINDS BECAUSE WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS, IT'S 64 72 PER PERSON.
JUST LET ME GO WITH $65 PER PERSON.
WE HAVE 2,600 PEOPLE SHOW UP TO ICE SKATING AND WE PAID, THE CITY PAID $65 PER PERSON IN THE ICE SKATING.
WELL GUESS WHAT? IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN ICE IN TEXAS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO STAFF BROUGHT BACK THE RECOMMENDATION OF A TENT TO COVER IT UP.
MY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IF I'M GONNA BE STAYING UNDER A TENT, I'M NO LONGER LOOKING AT THE DOWNTOWN DECORATIONS IN THE TREES.
I MIGHT AS WELL BE INSIDE THE GALLERIA.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD THAT $40,000 ONTO IT, WHICH STAFF SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE NOT HAVE.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE OPTION, NEW CONDITION, WE
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NEED TO HAVE A 10 OVER IT THAT MAKES IT $80 PER PERSON.AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I FELT LIKE WE COULD CONTACT THOSE 2,600 PEOPLE AND BUY THEM THEIR VERY OWN PAIR OF ICE SKATES IN AN ALL DAY PASS TO THE GALLERIA FOR PROBABLY 35 OR $40 A PERSON.
NOW WE KNOW THAT AS A CITY WE SET THINGS UP IN PARKS AND REC TO PROVIDE FUN TIMES TO OUR CITIZENS.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A FEEL GOOD STORY.
AND CONCEPTUALLY I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO THE COST OF $80 PER PERSON TO DO IT F AND G FROM A TWO TO ONE BOAT, F AND G DID NOT FEEL LIKE THAT WAS, UH, A GOOD WAY TO SPEND OUR CITIZENS' MONEY, ESPECIALLY.
AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO COMPARE IT TO TO BE FAIR, IS GOLF.
DURING GOLF'S VERY WORST YEAR EVER, WE SPENT $9 PER PERSON.
AND SO IF WE DOUBLE ATTENDANCE, WHICH WE DON'T THINK WE CAN DOUBLE ATTENDANCE, YES, IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR.
BUT IF YOU JUST HAVE THE GREATEST MARKETING PROGRAM IN THE WORLD AND YOU SHOULD DOUBLE ATTENDANCE, NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COST PER PERSON OF $40 BECAUSE THE COST PER PERSON IS GOING TO BE $80.
WHEN YOU ADD A $40,000, 10, IF YOU DOUBLE THE ATTENDANCE, THAT TAKES IT DOWN TO $40.
AND WE JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S TOO MUCH PER PERSON.
DOES THAT, DO I REPRESENT YOU WELL? YES.
AND MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LOVE TO HEAR.
WHAT WE, THE COST WE DON'T HAVE IN HERE IS WHEN THE, I WAS EXCITED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
THE QUESTION I BROUGHT UP WAS, WE WERE IN TEXAS AND THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA KEEP IT FROZEN.
THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO KEEP IT FROZEN.
WE HAD SOME DOWNTIME, UH, DUE THE WEATHER.
WELL, RAIN, RAIN MAYBE DON'T MATTER.
WHO WAS SKATING IN THE RAIN? NOBODY, NOBODY THAT, THAT'S RIGHT.
WHEN IT STARTED TO GET A LITTLE SLUSHY, NO ONE WAS SKATE.
SO THERE'S A COST THERE WHERE THE VENDOR STILL GOT PAID THE FULL DOLLAR AMOUNT AND DID NOT PROVIDE A FULL SERVICE.
SO TO BE, TO BE FAIR, WE DID NOT CLOSE, CLOSE THE ICE RATE DOWN FOR ANYTHING BUT RAIN.
WELL, THE TWO DAYS ALL SAID IT WAS SHUT DOWN FOR LONG AMOUNTS OF TIME, WHATEVER AMOUNT, DEFINITION, WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME IT WAS SHUT DOWN.
HOW MUCH DID WE PAY FOR THAT? SO THE $60 TO $80 IN AMOUNT ALSO INCREASES BECAUSE WE PAY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THAT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MATH.
WHY, WHY IT SHUT DOWN'S IRRELEVANT.
SO, AND I GET WHY Y'ALL VOTED NO, IT, IT, IT COST YOU MUCH MONEY FOR THE BENEFIT IS WHY Y'ALL VOTED NO COLE, YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT IT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT BRINGS TO DOWNTOWN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS, THANKS, GO AHEAD.
UH, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT COUNCILMAN COPEMAN HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN AGENDA THERE BECAUSE WE TOOK A NUMBER FROM $60 DOWN TO $40 AND PERHAPS NEXT YEAR WHEN IT DOUBLES, THAT GETS DOWN TO $20.
BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT $80 THAT, THOSE NUMBERS.
I'M, I APPRECIATE YOU SPOKE WHILE AGO.
IF YOU DON'T MIND LETTING ME CONTINUE THEY, THEY'RE, I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE AS F AND G MEMBERS.
THAT'S NOT, EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT.
AND HE'S, HE'S INTERRUPTING ME.
WHAT AM I SAYING? LET, LET, LET, LET'S, LET'S COME ON, GABE.
YOU'VE ALSO MENTIONED THAT IT SHUT DOWN VARIOUS TIMES BECAUSE OF WEATHER.
TEXAS WEATHER, WE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT DIDN'T SHUT DOWN.
AND TO COMPARE POOR FAMILIES IN MY DISTRICT TO GOLFERS IS REALLY JUST APPLES AND ORANGES.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF POINTS MADE THAT REALLY DIDN'T APPLY TO THE SITUATION AND I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE IT.
BUT, UM, YES, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT WE, UH, DEFINITELY PROVIDED A SERVICE, UH, TO A LOT OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOLKS, AN EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'LL NEVER FORGET, AN EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'RE GONNA TELL ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT.
THEY'RE GONNA BRING THEM DOWNTOWN.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DOUBLE THE NUMBERS NEXT YEAR AND IT'S STILL GONNA BE, UH, 20, 30, $40 A PERSON.
UM, AND I STILL, AND I WILL SUPPORT IT AS, UH, AN A G MEMBER.
YES, BUT LET I HAVE THE FLOOR DOWN.
I'LL GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE FOUR.
I DON'T THINK THIS WAS EVER MEANT TO MAKE MONEY.
'CAUSE IT COULDN'T, YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY ON SOMETHING YOU DON'T CHARGE FOR.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS, DO WE EVER WANTED, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL WANTED IT AT A CERTAIN PRICE.
IF NOT THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT IT.
NOW, $64 A PERSON DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.
'CAUSE IF THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE GO THERE, YOU ONLY LOSE $180
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE WHOLE, HOW MUCH DID WE LOSE?
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NOT HOW MANY PEOPLE, BUT, AND WE DID LOSE MORE MONEY THAN I WOULD HAVE WISHED.BUT I, YOU KNOW, HERE'S MY TAKE ON IT FOR WHAT WE WANNA ACCOMPLISH DOWNTOWN.
I WANT US TO BRING THIS BACK, BUT MAYBE NOT NEXT YEAR.
WHAT Y'ALL HEARD ME SAY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH DOWNTOWN IS WALKABILITY PEOPLE COMING DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING WITH THE CALVARY SPOT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE ROAD CLOSURE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUILDING, ANOTHER BUILDING DOWNTOWN.
SO I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMPETITORS AROUND THE METROPLEX ARE DOING.
OTHER CITIES THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE WE'D WANT TO DO IT WHEN WE GET COMPLETED.
WHETHER WE DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR OR NOT.
I'M NOT THAT SOLD ON, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, I I, I WILL NOT MIND SPENDING THE MONEY WHEN WE GET WHAT WE, OUR DREAM FOR DOWNTOWN AFTER THE ROAD CLOSURE.
AND I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH IT COSTS PER PERSON, IF IT COST A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO GET THAT EVENT DOWN THERE TO GIVE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, SO BE IT NOW, RIGHT NOW IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME FOR IT.
I'VE GOT NO HEARTBURN FOR DOING AGAIN.
I'VE GOT NO HEARTBURN FOR NOT DOING IT AGAIN.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY $64 AND 62 CENTS WORTH.
WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU A HUNDRED DOLLARS
I THINK WE CAN BRING IT BACK ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IS DOWNTOWN AND IT'S UNDER SPONSORSHIP.
JUST LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH MAIN STREET FEST.
WE HAVE COMPANIES, WE HAVE BUSINESSES, WE'VE GOT LOCKHEED MARTIN, WE'VE GOT A NEW HOSPITAL THEY CAN PITCH IN TO COVER THAT COST.
WHETHER IT'S 170,000 OR 250,000.
I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH BUSINESS IN GRAND PRAIRIE THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SPONSOR THAT THERE'S NO PENNY OFF OF US.
AND WE BRING, WE BRING OUR CITIZENS OUT AND THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEIR COMPANIES TO PROMOTE IT AND DO THEIR NETWORKING.
I THINK IF WE CAN FIND THAT HAPPY MEDIUM, MIKE, I THINK YOU'D AGREE.
IF WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH SPONSORS, WE AS A CITY WOULDN'T MIND SPENDING THE MONEY.
IF ONCE EVERYTHING OPENS UP DOWN THERE, I DON'T WANNA BE CONT MY STATEMENT TO BE MEANT CONTINGENT UPON GETTING ENOUGH SPONSORS.
AND I THINK YOU, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
IF WE HAVE SPONSORSHIP, I THINK, I THINK A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE COULD MM-HMM
UM, AND, UM, I FORGET ABOUT THE ICE RINK FOR A MINUTE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS TREE AND THE THREE LIGHTS, THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO THE ICE RINK.
I THINK WE'VE, WE FORGET, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SCHOOL CHILDREN THAT GO TO SCHOOLS IN GRAND PRAIRIE THAT AREN'T GRAND PRAIRIE ISD SCHOOLS.
I THINK NEXT YEAR DURING THAT THREE DAY EVENT, WE NEED TO INVITE THE KIDS FROM DALTON ELEMENTARY, WHICHEVER KID THAT GOES TO DALTON ELEMENTARY LIVES IN GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT THEY GO TO A MANSFIELD SCHOOL TO COME.
SEE, WE'VE GOTTA GET, WE'VE GOTTA GET 7 5 0 5 4 TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
HOW BETTER TO DO IT THAN THEIR SCHOOL CHILDREN.
AND WE HIGHLIGHT ATHLETES THAT WENT TO LAMAR AND LIVED IN OUR CITY AND WENT TO LAKE RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WENT TO OUR CITY AND BOWIE AND BOWIE THAT WENT TO OUR CITY.
SO LET'S HIGHLIGHT, LET'S UTILIZE THOSE KIDS THAT GO TO ARLINGTON SCHOOLS.
THAT THE SCHOOL IS IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
DALTON ELEMENTARY IS IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
IT'S IN GRAND PRIX CITY LIMITS.
IT'S JUST IN MANSFIELD SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT STAT IS IN GRAND PRIX, BUT IT'S AN ARLINGTON SCHOOL.
SEE? SO LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAVE ENTERTAINMENT.
NOW, UH, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE, COUNSEL? WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT? YES, JUNIOR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I REALLY LIKE IT PERSONALLY, I LOVE THIS PROGRAM.
I KNOW IT COSTS MONEY, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING
I DON'T MIND SUPPORTING IT TO CONTINUE.
YOU BROUGHT UP THAT, UM, THERE'S, THERE COULD BE A POSSIBLE FEE OF
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FIVE TO $10, UH, FOR THOSE THAT, UH, RESERVE THE, RESERVE THE SKATING RINK, BUT DON'T COME THAT MAKE RESERVATIONS.AND IF THEY KNOWHOW THAT, THAT IN ORDER TO, TO BOOK IT'S NON-REFUNDABLE.
WE'RE NOT READY TO SAY THAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE.
IT WAS JUST ONE THOUGHT AS TO HOW TO MAYBE MAKE SURE THAT THE RESERVATIONS THAT WERE MADE ACTUALLY SHOW UP TO SCALE.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO MAKE PEOPLE, MAKE PEOPLE HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME SO THEY ACTUALLY COME.
MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT IF WE CHARGE A FIVE OR $10 FEE RESERVATIONS AND THEN DON'T CHARGE PEOPLE THAT DO WALK-INS, THAT'S NOT FAIR.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE STUCKING BETWEEN ROCK.
AND IT, AND IT COULD BE THAT WE ONLY ALLOW RESERVATIONS AT PRIME TIMES, LIKE EVENINGS ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY MAYBE.
I LIKED YOUR IDEA OF NOT RESERVING THE WHOLE EVENING.
TAKE SOME RESERVATIONS, BUT NEVER SAY IT'S SOLD OUT.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN, BECAUSE PEOPLE NOSHOW.
I I GUARANTEE YOU I ALMOST NO-SHOWED THURSDAY NIGHT, ALTHOUGH I'D PREPAID BUT WAS ONLY 10 BUCKS, BUT IT WAS POURING RAIN.
I ALMOST DIDN'T GO TO HEAR MONICA SALDOVAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SO I FIVE BUCKS NOT GONNA KEEP PEOPLE FROM NOT GOING.
BUT I LIKE NOT RESERVING THE WHOLE EVENING.
IT WAS A GREAT CONCERT, BUT I ALMOST DID 'CAUSE IT WAS POURING RAIN.
I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT TOTALLY, SO WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR OR NOT, UM, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO LOOK AT OTHER VENDORS.
'CAUSE OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT BE DOING THIS AS FAR AS ICE SHRINK, ICE SHRINK AND THEN THE COST MIGHT BE A LOT DIFFERENT.
WE, WE DID PUT IT OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID LAST YEAR.
SO WE, WE THE IN ORDER OBVIOUSLY AT THE COST IT, IT HAD TO BY LAW, BUT YES SIR, WE DID PUT IT OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID.
THERE'S A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT THAT PROVIDE REAL, UH, BUT WE DID PUT IT OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I THINK THE MAYOR HIT A POINT REGARDING 7 5 0 5 4.
WE HAD TO GET MORE PROGRAMMING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE CAN'T JUST BE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE AREA AND ONE AREA.
AND PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT WANT ACTIVITIES FROM THE CITY.
IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE CITY, TAKE PROGRAMMING TO THEM.
DON'T, DON'T TELL 'EM COME DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT AS WELL.
AND I MEAN, WE, I JUST WANT TO REMIND STAFF ON THAT.
THOSE EIGHT PEOPLE DIDN'T COME UP AND THEY PROBABLY ENJOYED IT, BUT I I, I PREFER US DOING BOTH.
'CAUSE I WANT 'EM TO BE, I WANT THOSE SCHOOL KIDS TO BE, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF GRAND PRAIRIE KIRK.
UH, I DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT FG THAT INSTEAD OF THE ICE ICE RINK GO WITH THE ARTIFICIAL, LIKE THE ONE THEY HAVE AT MOTOR ADVENTURE TO SEE ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED YOUR VOTE? WOULD IT MAKE A 2 3 2 TO ONE VOTE IN FAVOR OF I'M SURE IT WOULD HAVE.
OH, WELL FG WOULD'VE SUPPORTED THAT, BUT COLE WASN'T SUPPORTIVE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE ACTUAL ICE.
AND MAYOR, IF, IF, IF YOU'D ALLOW ME, LET'S SAY THAT THIS COST $200,000.
IT COSTS ONE 70 IS GONNA TO BE TWO 10.
LET'S SAY IT'S 200,000 AND ONLY TWO PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
WOULD THE COST PER PERSON AFFECT YOU THEN? YES, IT WOULD.
BUT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE JUST TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP.
BUT, BUT TO SAY THAT THE COST PER PERSON DOESN'T HAVE ANY VARIANCE ON YOU.
I DISAGREE AND I STILL DISAGREE BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON EPIC.
IF WE DRILL DOWN HOW MANY COST PER PERSON TO, IF WE DRILL DOWN COST PER PERSON TO LET KIDS DO THE, AT CHARLIE TAYLOR REC CENTER, I DON'T WANNA HEAR COST PER PERSON.
I NEVER PAID A DIME WHEN I WENT TO CRO ELEMENTARY TO WORK OUT.
SO COST PER PERSON DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.
I, WE NEED A REC CENTER THAT'S OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
SO THERE'S SOMETIMES THE COST PER PERSON MEANS SOMETHING TO ME AND SOMETIMES IT DOES LIBRARY.
I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS, COST PER PERSON.
WE NEED TO ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE WIFI OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN THERE AND GET WIFI AND IF IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NO, I HEAR.
AND WHAT IT IS OUR JOB TO DO IS GET THAT, GET MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
'CAUSE FOLKS, THIS THIS AIN'T GOING TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET.
ONE I OPEN, THIS IS A DROP IN THE YEAH.
BUCKET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT YOU SAID WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
WE'RE IN A TRANSITION TIME DOWNTOWN.
WE'RE, UH, IF WE ARE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE IN TO ICE SKATE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS WHEN WE'RE UNDER
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CONSTRUCTION, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT GREAT OF EXPERIENCE OF AN EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS COMING TO OUR DOWNTOWN.BUT I LOVED THIS IDEA OF THE ARTIFICIAL ICE, IF IT'S HALF THE PRICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHILE WE'RE IN THE INTERIM, BEFORE WE COMPLETE AND HAVE THE FABULOUSNESS TO BRING, SPEND MONEY AND HAVE THE REAL EYES AGAIN.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST.
LET'S DON'T EVEN MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WINTER STARTS NEXT WEEK AND WE HAVE THE BIG SHOW.
UM, I HAD A FEW THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS.
I REALLY LIKE THE RENTAL IDEA.
I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A BIG SELLER FOR TEAM BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT PEOPLE IN OFF, OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA POSTING.
BUT MAYBE THAT COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REACH DIRECTLY OUT TO SOME ORGANIZATIONS.
GIRL SCOUTS, BOY SCOUTS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, MY NEXT THOUGHT WAS ABOUT THE TENT AND I CAN'T HEAR, I, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU PUT THE TENT THEN YOU CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING AS WELL.
BUT THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE ICE.
SO DO YOU REALLY? WE SHUT DOWN BY THE RAIN.
SO DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE TENT IF IT WAS JUST MINIMAL? IT WAS, IT WAS MINIMAL.
LOOK, THE ICE WAS NOT OPTIMAL DUE TO THE SUN.
EVEN ON COLD DAYS, THE SUN IS GONNA MELT THE ICE A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S NOT OPTIMAL, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THE SIDES DOWN TO THE TENT.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS PROTECT THE FROM WELL, YES SIR.
SO YOU COULD STILL SEE OUTSIDE SUN, JUST NOT HEIGHT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE HIGH RISES DOWN THERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK IN A MONTH.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU A PRICE ON, WE'LL OPEN IT ALL UP BACK QUESTIONS THEN BRING US BACK SOME MORE DATA.
UH, I KNOW THIS, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING IT AT ALL WHEN THE ROAD'S TORN UP.
SO IF THE ROAD'S GONNA BE TORN UP BY NEXT DECEMBER, I NEED TO KNOW THAT.
SO Y'ALL TELL, Y'ALL KIND OF GET US THAT.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS T'S SLOW MOVEMENT.
UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, MAYOR PRO, TIM HUMPHREYS.
WE GOT A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
THANK APPLICATIONS AND OUR CONSENT AGENDAS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW AT GOOD TIME TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE STAFF A QUESTION? YES.
COUNCIL, MAYOR ZA ITEMS 12 AND 13, WHAT ARE WE REJECTING? 12 AND 13, THOSE ARE MINE.
UM, THE 12 IS, UM, FOR THE, WE HAVE TO DO REPORTING ON OUR PART-TIME PEOPLE AND IT'S FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.
WE'RE JUST REJECTING BIDS, UH, FOR THAT.
AND, UH, BECAUSE THE VENDOR COULD NOT THAT WE ACTUALLY PICKED WHEN WE GOT DOWN TO IMPLEMENTATION, HE INDICATED THAT HE, THEY COULDN'T MEET THE TIMEFRAMES FOR THE FEDS FOR OUR CURRENT VENDORS FOR FILLING THAT FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'LL GO BACK AFTER THE DECEMBER.
UM, SECOND ONE WAS THE TOBACCO CESSATION AND THAT WAS JUST SIMPLY THE BIDS THAT WERE VERY, VERY HIGH AND OUR CURRENT VENDOR CAN PROVIDE THE REPORTING WE NEED.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT IT AT A LATER DATE.
IS THIS A TOBACCO CESSATION, UH, TO MAKE SURE, UH, PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE SMOKE ORDINANCE OR NO, IT'S INTERNAL.
WE, UM, WE HAVE A SURCHARGE FOR EMPLOYEES THAT USE NICOTINE PRODUCTS AND SO IT IS JUST A PROGRAM THAT TRACKS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE BY LAW.
AND SO WE HAVE TO KNOW IF THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AND HAVE REPORTING ON IT SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE, THE REDUCE THE SURCHARGE.
SO WE'RE JUST REJECTING THOSE, THAT ONE DUE TO COST.
YOU'LL BE BRINGING 'EM BACK TO US, I GUESS WHEN YOU GET THE NEW BIDS OR YOU GONNA BRING THEM OUT? YES.
WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY TEST IT AGAIN AT A LATER DATE.
UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE ARLINGTON GRAND PRAIRIE AREA? GREAT SOUTHWEST, THAT'S AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OF ON THE WELL EAST, WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
THE PROPERTIES ALONG GREAT SOUTHWEST, MANY OF THEM WERE SPLIT THE CITY LIMIT WISE, SPLIT DIVIDE THOSE PROPERTIES BETWEEN GRAND PRAIRIE AND ALL.
SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO DETERMINE WHO'S GONNA DO THE PERMITS, WHO SERVED IN THE PROPERTY, OR HOW DO Y'ALL PICK THAT? HOW DO YOU DECIDE THAT'S BETWEEN THE LAWYERS, BUT HOW DO Y'ALL DECIDE 50 50 WHO'S GOT THE MOST LAND? IT'S IT'S CASE BY CASE.
WE LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT'S FAIR AND NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
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BUT THAT'S STANDARD.AND YOU WORKED WITH THEIR LAWYERS? CORRECT.
LET THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 5 1 SUB CHAPTER D OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE BPCA TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.
NUMBER 2, 7 2 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY ITEM FOUR, SECTION 5 0 8 7 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC BALANCE AND NEGOTIATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE OTHER ROOM.