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YEAH.

ALL RIGHT FOLKS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET

[BRIEFING SESSION - 5:30 PM]

STARTED.

WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 20TH, 2023.

I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

STAFF BRIEFING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 5:42 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE BOARD AND PRE PREVIEWS THE CASE.

THIS IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE.

NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.

I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE, JUST LIKE THIS.

BARRY SANDIS.

HERE.

DAVID BAKER.

HERE.

ERIC ADEEN.

HERE.

DEBBIE EK.

HERE.

UH, ANTHONY LANGSTON.

HERE.

ERIC SMITH HERE.

AND TOMMY LAN HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS SEATED.

SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND CAN BEGIN OUR BRIEFING.

REMEMBER TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONES ON BEFORE YOU SPEAK JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU.

FOR THE RECORD, BRITTANY, GO AHEAD.

BOARD MEMBERS, WE ARE GONNA START TODAY WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

STAFF IS ASKING THAT THIS BE TABLED UNTIL NEXT MONTH SO STAFF CAN MEET THE STATE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 1 2.

IT'S A VARIANCE FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THINK BY NOW WE'RE ALL PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS REQUEST.

SO IT IS FOR ONE 10 STEERMAN PLACE.

UM, WE CONFIRMED WITH LEGAL THAT THE REQUEST WAS CHANGED ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

GOOD.

UM, SO HE IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR 468 SQUARE FEET, WHEREAS THE MAX IS 325 SQUARE FEET FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT THIS LOCATION.

AGAIN, THIS WAS IN MY PRESENTATION LAST MONTH, BUT JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, RESIDENCES IN, UM, AVON VILLAGE THAT HAVE A SIMILAR SIZE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THREE THERE THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT HE IS REQUESTING.

ONE ACTUALLY EXCEEDS IT.

TWO ACTUALLY EXCEED IT.

SORRY.

THIS IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS, UH, THE ROOM, THIS CURRENT STORAGE HERE, 180 SQUARE FEET WILL REMAIN AND HE'S REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO ADD A 288 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

IN ADDITION, HERE'S THE BUILDING PLAN AGAIN, THE PROPERTY.

SO 109 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS AN AVON VILLAGE CO-OP.

UH, STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST DUE TO JUST THE SIZE OF THE VARIANCE.

IT STILL EXCEEDS WHAT WE'D NORMALLY DO.

HOWEVER, STAFF DOES NOTE THE FOLLOWING.

UH, THERE ARE TWO ADDRESSES THERE THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR.

UM, THE APPLICANT'S DWELLING IS 650 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S PRETTY SMALL AND IT'S SMALLER THAN ANYTHING WE WOULD ALLOW.

AND SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS NOW, WHICH IS 1400 IS THE MINIMUM.

UM, AND ADDITIONALLY IT IS, IT DOES HAVE A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT ANY ADDITION TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT FACADE.

SO DOING ADDITION WOULD BE CHALLENGING.

UH, THAT COULD THAT CLOSE THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? AM I RIGHT? OH, I'M NOT MIKED.

UM, HOW I, I WE HAVEN'T, WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE HAVEN'T RUN INTO THAT, THAT HISTORIC MM-HMM .

DESIGNATION.

UM, HOW DOES THE CITY ENFORCE THAT? OR IS THAT ENFORCED? I THINK THAT'S ENFORCED WITH THE AVION VILLAGE.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? MY LEFT.

I, I FORGET WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REC, CAN I ASK WHAT, WHAT THE REQUEST WAS BEFORE AND YES.

SO LAST TIME IT SIX, WHAT WAS BEFORE 6 28 SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS TIME, SO NOW COMING IN FOR 468 SQUARE FEET.

SO HE'S REDUCED IT, HE'S REDUCED IT BY QUITE A BIT.

YEAH.

NEARLY A QUARTER.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

YES, AHEAD.

MR. BECK AND AVON HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.

CORRECT? HE HAS GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM AVON VILLAGE.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

READY? OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 1 1 OR 0 0 1 1.

YEAH.

UM, THESE ARE, THIS IS AGAIN A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

IT'S LOCATED AT 5 29 NORTHEAST FOURTH STREET.

HE'S REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK.

IT IS REQUIRED IS SIX FEET.

HE'S REQUESTING THREE FEET AND A REDUCTION OF THE REAR SETBACK.

WHAT IS REQUIRED IS 10 FEET.

HE'S REQUESTING SEVEN AND A HALF.

SO THIS CASE IS ACTUALLY A CASE OF A TRUE HARDSHIP WE CONSIDER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN FOR HIS BACKYARD, HE HAS A STEEP SLOPE.

AND SO ANYWHERE ELSE ON HIS BACKYARD THAT THERE'S AMPLE ROOM, HE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO LEVEL.

AND SO HERE HE SUBMITTED A PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE HIS FRIEND FOR REFERENCE.

SO IT IS A PRETTY STEEP BACKYARD.

SO WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS ONE A TRUE HARDSHIP.

UH, 21.

NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR.

ZERO.

RETURN TO OPPOSE.

THERE IS NOT AN HOA AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE TO MY RIGHT.

QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? SEE NONE AND KEEP ON MOVING.

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ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 1 0.

AND IT'S LOCATED AT 1837 CROOKS COURT THERE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR A COVERED PATIO.

THEY'RE WANTING TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK.

WHAT IS REQUIRED IS SIX FEET.

WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS FIVE FEET SINK.

SUCH INCH .

SO THEY'RE COMING IN FOR SIX INCHES.

UM, AND HERE'S THEIR SITE PLAN.

IT'S IN THE BACK AND I WENT OUT AND LOOKED.

IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, ACTUALLY, I'M PRETTY SURE.

BUT YOU, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE, FROM THE FRONT STREET VIEW.

I, I VISITED THIS RESIDENCE.

UM, 55 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS.

AM I RIGHT? QUESTIONS LEFT.

GOOD ENOUGH.

NEXT ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 9.

IT'S REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT 43 0 9 AMHERST LANE.

SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THIS IS ALREADY BUILT.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING A VARIANCE JUST FOR ONE HALF OF THE GARAGE.

THE OTHER HALF WILL REMAIN A GARAGE.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY'VE ALREADY ENCLOSED THIS SPACE AND ADDED A WINDOW.

SO NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK THROUGH TO GET PERMITTED AND GET THE VARIANCE, GET THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

SO THIS IS A, A MAP JUST SHOWING WHERE THE EXISTING GARAGE CONVERSIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE LOCATED.

SO THEY, THEY ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT WITHIN THAT 300 FOOT ADMIN APPROVAL BOUNDARY.

41 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN.

OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.

IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS, RIGHT.

QUESTIONS LEFT.

MR. BAKER? UH, THE CITY APPROVE OF THE METHOD DEATH.

THE OF THE WHAT? I'M SORRY.

OF THE CONSTRUCTION METHOD DONE SO AS IN LIKE THE MATERIALS AND STUFF USED? YEAH.

SO WE ARE NOT ALLOWED PER THE STATE TO REGULATE MATERIALS ANYMORE.

THAT ALL CHANGED DURING COVID.

MM-HMM .

IT HAS NOT COME BACK.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

SO, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 5.

THAT'S ANOTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST THIS TIME FOR A CARPORT LOCATED AT 2047 EL PASO STREET.

SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

IT ACTUALLY WAS AN EXISTING CARPORT, UM, BUT IT NEEDED TO BE REBUILT.

UM, BUT IT WASN'T LEGALLY PERMITTED LAST TIME.

SO THEY'RE HAVING TO COME THROUGH ZBA NOW.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKED LIKE BEFORE.

THIS IS THE PREVIOUS CARPORT.

THEY DID ALREADY START THE WORK.

I BELIEVE THEY GOT STOPPED BY THE CITY.

UM, AND YOU, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE CARPORT WILL BE.

AND YOU, AS YOU CAN TELL, THEY'RE ALSO REHABBING THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING CARPORTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE LITERALLY FEET AWAY FROM BEING ADMIN APPROVAL.

UM, BUT SO THEY HAD TO COME THROUGH ZBA AND THERE ARE A TON OF EXISTING CARPORTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

41 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN TO POST.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

QUESTIONS LEFT? YES.

IS THERE ENOUGH? IS IT A TWO CAR SPACE THERE? YEP.

TWO CAR SPACE.

AND IT MEETS ALL CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR CARPORTS.

OKAY.

SHE'S FLYING THROUGH BRIEFING.

YOU'RE DOING GOOD, .

THANKS.

WE GOT TWO MORE TO GO.

LET'S, WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

UH, SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 8.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUESTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A FRONT YARD CARPORT AND MULTIPLE VARIANCES FOR THE CARPORT.

SO THIS IS LOCATED AT 1009 RALPH STREET.

UM, THE VARIANCES THEY'RE REQUESTING, THEY'RE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM AREA WAS ALLOWED IS 500 SQUARE FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 635, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF A CARPORT.

IT CAN'T BE ABOVE THE PITCH OF THE HOUSE.

THEIR HOUSE MEASURES AT 16 FEET SIX INCHES.

THE CARPORT IS 19 FEET, FIVE INCHES.

UM, THEY ALSO ARE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM WIDTH FROM 26 FEET TO 30 FEET, NINE AND A HALF INCHES.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THEY SUBMITTED.

I DID A SITE VISIT FOR THIS ONE.

IT IS, IT IS A PRETTY LARGE CARPORT.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT ACTUALLY EXTENDS PAST THE PAVING WELL INTO THE FRONT YARD, PAST THE FRONT DOOR AND PAST A WINDOW.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO THE PITCH OF THE HOUSE VERSUS THE PITCH OF THE CARPORT.

SO THEY ARE IN AN AREA WITH A LOT OF CARPORTS.

SO THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ADMIN APPROVAL HAD THEY MET ALL CITY STANDARDS, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE HAVING TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

SO WE DID RECEIVE TWO OPPOSITION LETTERS AND THEY'RE IN THE PURPLE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IN RED.

SO 48 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR TO RETURN TO POST.

AND THERE'S NOT HOA STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

UM, SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE CARPORT, IT IS REQUIRING A LOT OF VARIANCES TO MEET CITY STANDARDS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE FACT, YOU KNOW, CARPORTS HAVE TO HAVE PAVING UNDER THEM, THE FUNCTION IS TO PROTECT YOUR CARD.

THIS IS ALMOST ACTING

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LIKE YOUR CARPORT AND A COVER PATIO.

RIGHT? BUT A COVER PATIO HAS DIFFERENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

THESE WOULD NOT, THIS WOULD NOT MEET IT.

UM, SO JUST SIMPLY DUE TO THE SIZE OF IT AND THE FUNCTIONALITY, STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? AM I RIGHT? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I THINK I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT .

.

MR. BAKER, GO AHEAD.

YES.

IF THERE WERE TO TURN THIS INTO A, LIKE ENCLOSED GARAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WOULD IT POSSIBLY MAKE, OR WOULD THEY STILL HAVE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS? THEY MIGHT STILL MAKE MODIFICATIONS.

I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ARTICLE SIX CONTINUING DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY.

UM, FOR, I THINK ATTACHED GARAGES STILL HAVE TO MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

YEAH.

SO THEY WOULD STILL, THEY WOULD STILL REQUIRE VARIANCES STILL THREE FEET TOO BIG AT THIS POINT.

YEAH, IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE SOME VARIANCES, BUT, BUT THAT COULD GET 'EM CLO THAT COULD POSSIBLY GET 'EM CLOSER.

YEAH, IT, IT, IT, I I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

I DON'T WANNA SAY FOR CERTAIN, UM, WE'D LOT COVERAGE, BUT THE HEIGHT REQUIRE, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BUT YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE OVER THE MAX HEIGHT.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT LOT COVERAGE, THINGS OF THAT.

SO THEY'RE STILL BE REQUESTING VARIANCES.

JUST DIFFERENT VARIANCES.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS THE VARIANCES FOR THIS.

I GOT, I GOT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I REMEMBER NOW.

YES.

OKAY.

IN, IN THE, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF EVERYWHERE.

OKAY.

SO ARE ANY OF THEM BIG LIKE THAT OR THEY'RE ALL LITTLE? NO, I ACTUALLY DID CHECK, SO IF YOU GO BACK HERE, I CHECKED ALL OF THEM IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

NOT ONE OF THEM REQUESTED VARIANCES.

AND SO IT, WHILE THERE ARE CARPORTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS DOES NOT MATCH WITH THE CARPORTS THAT ARE EXISTING OUT THERE.

AND SO THEY STARTED IT AND THEY GOT STOPPED.

YES.

SO NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PERMANENT PROCESS AND THE ZV PROCESS.

WOW.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, LET'S MOVE US TO OUR LAST CASE, BRITTANY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE IS ZBA 23 0 2 0 0 7.

IT IS A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FOR THE LOT WIDTH LOCATED AT 3 0 6 SOUTHWEST FIFTH STREET.

SO THE LOT WIDTH REQUIRED IS 30 FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 25 FEET.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ACTUALLY THEY'RE WANTING TO COME THROUGH FOR TOWN HOMES.

AND SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ZONED MF ONE, BUT LARGELY IT'S SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES.

THERE'S ONE APARTMENT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT IN GENERAL IT'S MAINLY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND WITH SOME DUPLEXES THROWN IN AS WELL, THEY'RE WANTING TO COME IN FOR TOWN HOMES.

SO OUR TOWN HOME REQUIREMENTS ARE AT LEAST 70% OF THE LOTS HAVE TO BE 30 FEET OR LARGER.

AND 30% OF THE LOTS CAN BE BETWEEN 21 AND 29.

HE'S REQUESTING ALL THREE BE 25.

SO THIS IS THE LOT HERE.

IT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, BUT IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.

54 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

THERE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.

SO STAFF CANNOT REPORT THIS TO A, THE SUBJECT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED AS A DUPLEX AND MEET ALL CITY STANDARDS AND THAT WOULD BETTER MATCH WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

IT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE ROOM IN BETWEEN THAT HOUSE AND THE EXISTING HOUSES.

UM, BUT HE'S COMING IN CHOOSING TO COME IN AND TRY TO FIT THREE TOWN HOMES THERE.

STAFF'S NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT IT 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THERE THAT WOULD MAKE, THAT WOULD MEET CITY STANDARDS.

ADDITIONALLY, SUBJECTS SURROUNDED BY ONE STORY HOUSES WITHOUT FRONT ENTRY RODS.

HE'S COMING.

HE WANTING TO COME IN AND PUT UH, TWO STORY STRUCTURES THAT HAVE FRONT ENTRY.

IT JUST DOESN'T NECESSARILY MATCH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO STAFF IS THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS ON THIS FINAL CASE? TO MY RIGHT, TO MY LEFT MS. JACK.

OKAY.

JUST CHECKING.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET A QUESTION.

.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

THAT'LL CONCLUDE OUR STAFF BRIEFING.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL RECONVENE IN FIVE MINUTES.

I WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERY, AS EVERYBODY'S COMING IN, IF THEY'LL FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

WE DON'T TAKE ORDERS FROM THE CHEAP SEATS.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE

[Call to Order]

ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS MEETING FOR MARCH 20TH, 2023.

I'M BARRY SANDIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED ORDER AT 6:01 PM ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS U USUALLY MEETS THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.

ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN UNLESS THE PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VARIANCES, EXCEPTIONS AND APPEALS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIES UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 1 0.009 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE CONCURRING VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS NECESSARY TO DECIDE IN FAVOR OF AN APPLICANT ON ANY MATTER ON WHICH THE BOARD HAS JURISDICTION.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL

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OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESIDENTS OF THE QUORUM.

AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE JUST LIKE THIS.

BARRY SANDIS.

HERE.

KIMBERLY I CONROE.

HERE.

DAVID BAKER.

HERE.

ERIC ADEEN.

HERE.

DEBBIE EK.

HERE.

UH, TIMOTHY DUPO.

HERE.

ANTHONY LANGSTON.

HERE.

ERIC SMITH HERE AND TOMMY LAND HERE, LET THE REFLE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS HERE AND OUR READY TO PROCEED.

I'LL NOW ASK MR. BAKER TO GIVE THE INVOCATION DEARLY.

FATHER, WE COME TO YOU SO GRACIOUSLY FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.

LORD, LET US REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE TO US.

LORD, LET US BE HONEST AND AS WELLBEING AS WE CAN FOR THE CITIZENS OF GRAND PRAIRIE LORD.

AND JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT CITY.

WE ASK THINGS YOUR NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

AND IN EVER TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THE FOLLOWING MEETING GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.

STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

APPLICANTS HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WE'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.

SPEAKER SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AT THE TOP OF THEIR SPEECH ALONG WITH WHOM YOU REPRESENT.

IF NECESSARY, STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM.

AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEARING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.

OUR FIRST ACTION OUT OF THE NIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF

[1. Approval of the February 22, 2022 Meeting Minutes]

THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 22ND, 2023.

IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THESE MINUTES? IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? I'LL NOW ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 22ND.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

AND MS. ACHE BEAT YOU GUYS TO MY RIGHT.

SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FOR MS. ACHE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED BY ACCOUNT OF NINE TO ZERO.

UH, THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CASES LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE EIGHT CASES QUESTIONED.

DO WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE OR? YES.

OKAY.

SO STAFF HAS MENTIONED ON THE FIRST CASE LISTED ON THE AGENDA,

[2. ZBA-23-02-0006 (Council District 5) – Variance to reduce the minimum side setback requirement for a covered patio permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1610 Pine Street, legally described as Lot 3, Block J, Fairview No. 1 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

THEY, THE STAFF NEEDS TO TABLE ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 6 TO COMPLY WITH NOTIFICATION POLICIES.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO TABLE MR. CHAIRMAN? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CASE THAT WE TABLE CASE NUMBER 23 0 2 0 0 6.

SECOND.

WE DO THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

MOTION TO TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT MOTION IS TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.

A SECOND.

FOR MS. RO.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

OKAY, WE'VE TABLED THAT ONE, WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT CASE,

[3. ZBA-23-02-0012 (Council District 5) – Variance to increase the maximum area for an accessory structure permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 110 Stearman Place, legally described as Avion Village Unit X10, being a portion of 59.04-acre tract out of Perry Linney Survey, Abstract No. 777, Page 495, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Multi Family-One Residential District.]

BRITTANY.

GOOD EVENING.

SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE ZBA 23 0 2 0 1 2 IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOCATED AT ONE 10 STEERMAN PLACE.

AGAIN, I'M GONNA BREEZE THROUGH THIS ONE 'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY FAMILIAR.

THE REQUESTED AREA IS 468 SQUARE FEET.

THE MAXIMUM THAT IS ALLOWED PER THE UDC IS 325 SQUARE FEET.

AGAIN, THESE ARE THOSE, UH, EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OUT THERE THAT KIND OF MATCH THE SIZE WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

HERE IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE NEW STORAGE OF 288 SQUARE FEET AND THE EXISTING ONE, WHICH IS WILL STAY AT 180 SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S THE BUILDING PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, THE RESIDENCE, 109 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS AN AVON VILLAGE CO-OP STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT THIS DUE TO THE SIZE AND THE VARIANCE REQUESTED IS NOT SIMILAR TO ONES THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD APPROVE OR WOULD SUPPORT, I SHOULD SAY.

HOWEVER, STAFF DOES NOTE THAT THERE ARE ADDRESSES WITH SIMILAR SIZE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OUT THERE.

CURRENTLY, THE APPLICANT'S DWELLING AREA IS PRETTY SMALL.

IT'S SMALLER THAN ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD APPROVE NOW UNDER THE UDC.

AND AGAIN, IT DOES HAVE A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, WHICH WOULD MAKE AN ADDITION DIFFICULT.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT FOR STAFF.

QUESTIONS? MY LEFT.

THANK YOU MS. BRITTANY AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT.

I SEE THIS.

I HAVE A CARD FOR MR. VAR.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON DOWN? AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN, I JUST WANNA SALUTE YOU.

YOU ARE AN EXEMPLARY EXAMPLE OF, UH, FORTITUDE THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.

SO LET'S THREE MONTHS START OFF WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO TELL US.

UH, MY NAME'S ADRIAN HAARD.

I LIVE AT ONE 10 STEERMAN PLACE IN AVON VILLAGE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

UM, I WROTE A COUPLE NOTES SO I DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING OUT, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE TWICE.

UM, I INITIALLY CAME IN ASKING FOR A 14 BY 32 ADDITION.

UH, I HAVE A VERY SMALL HOME.

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UM, IT'S 650 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY, UM, WITH ONE CLOSET THAT'S ABOUT TWO FOOT BY SEVEN FOOT.

UM, I'VE GOT LOTS OF CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, I'VE GOT DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'M A WELDER.

I'M A CARPENTER.

I'M A BARBER.

UM, I DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY 180 SQUARE FOOT STORE, UH, BARN UNIT.

UM, AND IT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR RAW MATERIALS AND WHATNOT.

SO, UM, I CAME IN ASKING FOR A LARGER UNIT, UM, THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT, SO I CUT THAT UNIT BY A THIRD.

UM, AND, UM, SO YEAH, SO I'M BACK.

I'M, I'M HOPING THAT I CAN GET IT DONE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.

I DON'T WANNA WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME.

NO, THAT'S I HAVE AND PAGES OF INFORMATION THAT I COULD SHARE WITH YOU.

BUT YOU REFERENCED THE BARN UNIT.

IS THAT, UH, THE THING? YOU SHOWED PICTURES LAST, UM, LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE.

THE PREVIOUS, YEAH.

SO THAT UNIT I WAS, THAT'S ONE HECK OF A NICE UNIT.

YOU'VE DONE A NICE JOB ON THAT AS I RECALL.

UM, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.

CAN YOU MAKE, MAKE IT WORK WITH A SMALLER UNIT? UH, I, YOU KNOW, I MAKE THINGS WORK.

ALL THAT'S A GOOD ATTITUDE.

I LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, YEAH, SO IF IT'LL WORK FOR YOU GUYS, UM, I'M HAPPY.

ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT MR. BAKER? NO, I'M GOOD.

YOU GOOD? NO QUESTIONS.

I AGAIN SALUTE YOU FOR BEING HERE.

SOMETIMES IT'S CHALLENGING TO CUT THROUGH THE RED TAPE, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

I UNDERSTAND.

HOPEFULLY WE GOT I'M ONE VOTE, BUT YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS SIR.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? UH, ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 2.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE CASE NUMBER 23 0 2 0 0 1 2.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FOR MS. HUBACHEK.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIDE.

BILL.

BILL YOUR SHED.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

NINE TO ZERO.

OH, I SAW MISS CHECK.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ADRIAN RAISED TWO NAYS.

YEAH.

CONGRATULATIONS.

I HAD TO FRA HER OVER HERE.

YEAH, GETTING THE ICE.

WE ALMOST HAD TO ICE DOWN THE SUPER CHECK HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE SHE GAVE HERSELF.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE.

[4. ZBA-23-02-0011 (Council District 5) – Variances to reduce the minimum rear and side setback requirements permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 529 NE 4th Street, legally described as Lot 3, Block 565, Churchill Manor Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Two Residential District]

GO AHEAD, BRITTANY.

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 1.

IT'S ANOTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURE VARIANCE REQUESTED LOCATED AT 5 29 NORTHEAST FOURTH STREET.

SO THE REQUESTING A VARIANCE, UH, FOR REDUCTION OF THE SIDE SETBACK AND THE REAR SETBACK.

SO WHAT IS REQUIRED IS SIX FEET FOR THE SIDE.

THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE, UH, 10 FEET IS REQUIRED FOR THE SETBACK.

FOR THE REAR, THEY'RE REQUESTING 7.5.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE WOULD CONSIDER THEY HAVE A HARDSHIP.

UM, AND SO ANYWHERE ELSE THAT THEY WOULD WANNA PLACE A ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE BACKYARD, BUT PROBABLY REQUIRE SOME LEVELING.

SO THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT HAS AMPLE SPACE AND IS LEVEL ENOUGH FOR THEM TO PLACE IT AGAIN.

HE SUBMITTED THIS PHOTO WITH HIS FRIEND TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE ON THE SLOPE THAT SLOPE CHALLENGES HE'S FACING IN HIS BACKYARD.

21.

NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN TO OPPOSE.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? NOT LEFT, NO.

AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT, CORRECT? STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT.

I'VE GOT THAT.

I'LL NOW ASK ANDREW RAMSEY TO COME ON DOWN.

I ALMOST SURE I MESSED UP THAT LAST NAME, CORRECT? NO.

YOU SURE? RIGHT, RAMSEY? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

UM, ANDREW RAMSEY.

YOUR BRAND LOOKS LIKE A GIANT NEXT TO THE FENCE IT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, YEAH.

5 2 9 NORTHEAST FOURTH STREET.

UM, I'VE GOT MY DEGREE IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.

I'M WORKING ON A PLAN, UH, SITE PLAN.

AND REALLY WITH THE WAY THAT THE HOUSE IS ARRANGED, THE LANDSCAPE, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE BEST AREA TO PUT IT.

IT ALSO WOULD BLOCK ANOTHER SHED THAT I'M BASICALLY MIRRORING.

UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, SMALL, OLDER, OLDER HOUSE AND JUST NEED SOME STORAGE.

MAKES SENSE.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? TO MY LEFT? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

HEY, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE, WHICH IS ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 1.

SEEING NONE, ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 1.

OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, I'LL

[00:25:01]

ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE CLOSE AND APPROVE CASE NUMBER 2 3 0 2 0 0 1.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER AND A SECOND FROM MR. LANGSTON.

OH, MR. LANGSTON GOT YOU WAY FAST.

OH, OKAY.

HE WAS SUPER FAST ON THAT ONE.

HE'S GONNA BE COMPETITIVE TONIGHT GUYS.

WE GOT LOTS OF CASES.

I'M SURE YOU'LL GET THERE.

SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FOR MR. LANGSTON.

NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION APPROVES NINE TO ZERO.

MOVING ALONG, BRITTANY.

[5. ZBA-23-02-0010 (Council District 3) – Variance to reduce the minimum side setback requirement for a covered patio permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1837 Crooks Court, legally described as Lot 10, Block 3, Phillips Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Three Residential District]

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 0.

IT IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A COVERED PATIO LOCATED AT 1837 CROOKS COURT.

SO THE REQUIRED SETBACK IS SITE SETBACK IS SIX FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING A SETBACK OF FIVE FEET SIX INCHES.

SO THEY'RE COMING IN JUST FOR SIX INCHES.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

THIS IS THE RESIDENCE.

55 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO MY RIGHT.

QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? THANK YOU, BRITTANY.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE AA CARD.

I BELIEVE THIS IS OKAY.

SEE NOW MONTIO, IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND INTRODUCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.

UM, I SIR.

UH, MY ENGLISH IS NOT THAT GOOD.

THAT'S OKAY.

BUT, UH, OKAY.

THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR, FOR THE VARIANCE IS BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS, WAS BUILT ON, I'M NOT SURE, I THINK 70 72, 19 72.

AND IT WAS BUILT, UM, 5, 5 5 FEET, SIX INCHES FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE SAME LINE WITH THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE TO BUILD THE, THE PATIO COVER.

SO YOU NEED SIX INCHES.

SIX.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TERRIBLY EGREGIOUS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? TO MY RIGHT, TO MY LEFT.

YOU'RE GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT SIR.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? UH, 0 0 1 0.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE? SEEING NONE.

DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE, EXCEPT CASE NUMBER 2 3 0 2 0 0 1 0.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER SECOND AND A SECOND FOR MS. SECOND RODIER.

OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

IT PASSES BY NINE TO ZERO.

AND JUST REAL QUICK, BRITTANY, MR. RAMSEY, UNLESS YOU'RE JUST TOTAL FAN CLUB, ONCE WE VOTED, YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HANG OUT.

I'M JUST GONNA SEE A COUPLE OF OH YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

MR. VAR HUNG OUT FOR THREE MONTHS, SO IT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW, ALL TIME.

YOU KNOW, WE DO THIS SHOW EVERY MONTH.

KEEP A SEAT FOR BACK.

ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

YOU, YOU BECOME A GROUPIE.

I SIT FRONT ROW.

YEAH, WE APPRECIATE IT.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU SITTING THERE GOING .

I WANTED YOU TO KNOW YOU'RE FREE TO GO IF YOU NEEDED TO.

TIM SENT ME A NOTE, SAID I COULD.

WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU.

WE HAVE TO BE HERE, BUT YOU DON'T .

APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT, BRITTANY.

NEXT CASE.

ALL RIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX IS

[6. ZBA-23-02-0009 (Council District 4) – Special Exception for a conversion of a garage into a living space, located at 4309 Amherst Lane, legally described as Lot 3, Block Q, Oak Hollow Phase 4A Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Planned Development-50 District]

ZBA 23 0 2 9.

IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A GARAGE CONVERSION LOCATED AT 43 0 9 AMHERST LANE.

AGAIN, THEY'RE ONLY CONVERTING ONE OF THE GARAGE SPACES INTO A BEDROOM.

THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO REMAIN A GARAGE.

SO IT, THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN ENCLOSED.

THEY'VE ADDED A WINDOW AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THEY'VE GOT THE TWO CAR GARAGE, THE TWO CAR DRIVEWAY, NON-ST STACKED, WHICH MEET CITY REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST GARAGE CONVERSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THEY HAVE TWO OVER HERE, BUT THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT 300 FOOT ADMIN APPROVAL, WHICH IS WHY THEY, BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT, 41 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN OPPOSED.

AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT FOR STAFF? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, I DON'T HAVE A CARD ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

DO YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT NAME? THE APPLICANT NAME IS, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I WILL, I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

LENE MAC.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNSELOR.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, THEN I'LL JUST ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE BEFORE ZBA.

SEEING NONE.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE AND SEEING NONE? I WILL LOOK FOR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ALSO.

SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE CLOSE AND APPROVE CASE 2 3 0 2 0 0 0 9.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND AND A SECOND, MS. HICK, THIS HAS NOW BECOME THE MOST EXCITING PART OF MY EVENING IS WAIT TO SEE WHO'S GONNA CALL.

SECOND.

[00:30:01]

UH, SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FROM MS. EK.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION PASSES.

NINE TO ZERO.

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS

[7. ZBA-23-02-0005 (Council District 1) – Special Exception for a side yard carport, located at 2047 El Paso Street, legally described as Lot 10, Block 125, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Multi-Family One Residential]

EBA 23 0 2 0 0 0 5.

SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A CARPORT LOCATED AT 2047 EL PASO STREET.

THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED SO IT WASN'T EXISTING CARPORT, IT WASN'T LEGALLY PERMITTED, SO THEY'RE REBUILDING IT SO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH FOR PERMITTING.

AND ZBA APPROVAL.

SO THIS WAS THE, UH, HOUSE WITH THE CARPORT PREVIOUSLY THERE.

AND THIS IS THE HOUSE NOW.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE KIND OF STARTED ON THE CARPORT, BUT THEY HAVE ARE ALSO DOING SOME REHAB WORK ON THE HOUSE AS WELL, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF DOING IT ALL AT ONCE.

AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST FEED AWAY FROM ADMIN APPROVAL, BUT THERE ARE EXISTING CARPORTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WITH AN ADMIN APPROVAL, THEY HAD TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

41 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ZERO.

RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN OPPOSED? AND THERE IS NOT AN HOA AND STAFF.

DOES NOT.

OBJECTIONS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ONE? QUESTIONS? MY LEFT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

I HAVE THE APPLICANT'S NAME.

IS THAT PEDRO? YES, SIR.

PEDRO VIEN? YES.

IF YOU COULD COME ON DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD INTO THE MIC.

AND THEN TELL US WHAT ELSE WE NEED TO KNOW.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS PEDRO VIEN.

I AM A NEW OWNER FOR 2047 EL PASO STREET.

SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.

EH, IT'S NOT VERY GOOD, BUT FINE.

UH, WE WANT TO REBUILD ALL THIS HOME CONVERTING IN A UGLY HOME AND BEAUTIFUL HOME.

SO THAT'S ALL WHAT, WHAT I WANT.

SO, WELL THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOING THROUGH A REAL CHANGEOVER.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S BUILDING SOME REALLY NICE HOUSES.

THAT'S YOUR GOAL.

I, I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

YEAH.

UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE APPLICANT TO MY RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT TO MY LEFT? NO.

THANK YOU PEDRO.

APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

I HAVE ONE MORE CARD ON THIS CASE.

ANGEL SANCHEZ, BUT SAYS YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEAK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.

YOU'RE JUST IN SUPPORT OF THE CASE.

I WILL RECORD FOR THE RECORD.

YOU ARE IN SUPPORT AND WE WON'T MAKE YOU COME DOWN HERE.

PEDRO'S GOT YOU COVERED.

AND WHO SAID, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO IS THE, THE PERSON IN SUPPORT? UH, ANGEL SANCHEZ.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

BUT YOU WOULD'VE HEARD IF YOU WEREN'T WALKING AROUND.

UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE BEFORE ZBA UH, 2 3 0 2 0 0 5.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 5? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK FOR DISCUSSION AND SEEING NONE ON THAT.

I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE.

CASE 2 3 0 2 0 0 0 5.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FOR A SECOND.

RODIER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION ALSO PASSES.

NINE TO ZERO TAKES US TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR

[8. ZBA-23-02-0008 (Council District 1) – Special Exception for a front yard carport and variances to increase the maximum width, area, and height permitted under the Unified Development Code, located at 1009 Ralph Street, legally described as Lot 4, Block 5, Indian Hills No. 2 Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Single Family-Four Residential District]

AGENDA.

0 0 0 8.

GO AHEAD RUDY.

WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

WE'RE FLYING THROUGH 'EM TONIGHT.

THIS IS ZBA 23 0 2.

0 0 0 8.

THEY'RE COMING IN FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A CARPORT ALONG WITH SOME ASSOCIATED VARIANCES.

SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 0 9 RALPH STREET.

SO THE VARIANCES THEY'RE REQUESTING, THEY'RE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM AREA.

WHAT IS ALLOWED IS 500.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 635 SQUARE FEET INCREASING.

THEY'RE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.

SO AGAIN, IT CAN'T GO ABOVE THE PITCH OF THE HOUSE.

UM, THEY HOUSE IS 16 FEET SIX INCHES.

THE HEIGHT OF THE CARPORT IS 19 FEET, FIVE INCHES.

AND THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF THE CARPORT.

SO WHAT IS ALLOWED IS 26 FEET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 30 FEET, NINE AND A HALF INCHES.

THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE PHOTOS FROM MY SITE VISIT.

YOU CAN TELL IT IS QUITE LARGE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, ENCROACHING INTO THE YARD QUITE A BIT PAST THE DRIVEWAY.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PITCH OF THE CARPORT EXCEEDS THE PITCH OF THE HOUSE.

AGAIN, THEY, IF THEY MET ALL CITY STANDARDS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ADMIN APPROVAL, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MEETING CENTERS OR CITY STANDARDS, THEY'RE HAVING TO COME THROUGH TODAY.

UM, AND ALL OF THE CARPORTS, YOU SEE THESE PURPLE SQUARES, ALL OF THOSE WERE LEGALLY PERMITTED AND DID NOT REQUEST ANY VARIANCES.

THEY MEET CITY STANDARDS.

YOU DID GET TWO OPPOSITION LETTERS AND THEY'RE IN PURPLE HERE ON THE MAP.

48 NOTICES.

PERCENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, TWO RETURN OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE CARPORT.

THE FUNCTIONALITY KIND OF EXCEEDS WHAT A CARPORT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATCH THE EXISTING CARPORTS OUT THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.

SO, AND STAFF, THAT CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

SO

[00:35:01]

THE PICTURE WE SAW, IS THAT THE CARPORT? YES.

SO THIS STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT HERE, THAT'S ALL THE CARPORT.

SO IT IS ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE, BUT THAT IS WHERE THAT LINE IS ON THE ROOF RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, IF THIS WORKS.

YEAH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT ATTACHED TO THE ROOF.

THAT'S ALL CARPORT.

SO IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT TONIGHT, JUST ASKING HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE DON'T, UM, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE IT DOWN.

OH.

OR ASK FOR MODIFICATIONS.

THEY MAY CHANGE IT.

MAKE SURE WHO KNOWS.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. HAINE? SO THE LETTERS THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION, WERE THEY JUST OPPOSED TO THE SIZE? DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ELSE? THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THE SIZE AND THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY LIKE HOW IT LOOKED, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY FINISHED.

I'M PRETTY SURE THEY GOT A STOP ORDER FROM THE CITY.

SO, BUT IT, THE SIZE WAS THE MOST CONCERNING THING I HEARD FROM BOTH OF THOSE IN THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? HOW ABOUT MINE? MS, GO AHEAD SIR.

YEAH, THE FUNCTIONALITY ISSUE IS BECAUSE IT EX EXTENDS BEYOND THE CONCRETE.

YEAH.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, CARPORT REQUIRES THAT THERE'S PAVEMENT UNDERNEATH, RIGHT? THIS EXTENDS WELL PAST THE FRONT DOOR AND THE FRONT WINDOW.

RIGHT.

AND SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN FOR A COVERED PATIO, FOR INSTANCE, ON THEIR FRONT, NORMALLY ABOVE THEIR FRONT DOOR AND THE FRONT WINDOW THAT HAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT HAS TO MEET THE SETBACK OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

AND SO HERE IT'S LIKE PART OF, IT'S ALMOST FUNCTIONING LIKE A PORCH, BUT NOT MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU.

THE CARPORT ALREADY.

UH, IS THERE CARPORT UNDERNEATH THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE.

YEAH.

LIKE THERE WAS ALREADY A CARPORT, NOW WE BUILT SOMETHING.

THIS IS A BIGGER STRUCTURE ON TOP OF THIS.

MM-HMM .

I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR APPLICANT.

PROBABLY COULDN'T EVEN SEE IT WHEN I WAS OUT THERE.

BUT YEAH.

MR. BAKER, UH, SO HAVE YOU TRIED WORKING WITH 'EM TO COMPROMISE AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING SMALLER? SO WE HAVEN'T HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT YET.

UM, OKAY.

THE APPLICANT WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR A LOT OF THIS MONTH, SO I WAS SPEAKING THROUGH AN INTERMEDIARY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T REALLY GET TO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TO MY LEFT WITH STAFF? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

IT'S THE APPLICANT TO GONZALEZ, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, AND IS IT NAR? YEAH.

IF YOU COULD COME DOWN, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU CAN BOTH COME ON DOWN AND TELL US HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

GO AHEAD.

HI, MY NAME ISOR.

UH, I'M SORRY FOR MY PICK ENGLISH.

NO, NOT PICK ENGLISH.

UM, OKAY.

ANSWER.

I'M GONNA BE THE SAME.

OKAY.

I'LL TRY TO, I'M GONNA TRY TO, I'M GONNA TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FOR WHAT I KNOW.

SO, AND GIVE US YOUR NAME TOO.

MY NAME IS CIO EVA.

OKAY.

ACTUALLY, I MOVED DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, RENTED LIKE A PLACE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIND A PLACE, YOU KNOW, BUT I TRIED TO HELP HER HARD RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, ONE OF HER FAMILY, THEY FROM HOUSTON, THEY COME BY IN HER HOUSE THAT WAS LEAKING EVERYWHERE, YOU KNOW, INSIDE.

RIGHT.

SO THEY HAVE A BIG OLD MESS AND SHE CLEAN IT UP AND EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW THIS 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE SHINGLES THAT WAS BAD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS HAPPENING.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

YOU KNOW.

SO SHE TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS THE HOUSE ON RALPH STREET.

YEAH.

THIS IS THE HOUSE ON 1 0 9.

1 0 9 RALPH STREET.

SO FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO? THEY JUST CHANGE THE SHINGLES AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT THERE ON THE PORCH.

WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE CARPORT? OKAY.

NO, WHAT I'M SAY, SO, UH, SO THIS, WHEN THE GUY, YOU KNOW, BUILD HER CARPORT 'CAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW FOR LIKE BEING ORANGE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING BUT THIS.

SO WHAT I TRY TO HELP IS HER, YOU KNOW, LETTING KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY, I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNOW, DID WE, DID WE PAY SOMEBODY TO BUILD THE CAR OR NO, THERE WAS NO, NO, THEY WAS JUST LIKE HER FAMILY.

YOU KNOW, THEY CAME FROM HOUSTON AND MY WORKING IS, UH, RELE ME RE ONLY THE WORKING, THE RELE? NO, IT'S ONLY, ONLY FOR THE, OKAY.

SO MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT WE HAVE RULES ON THE SIZES THAT YOU CAN BUILD THE PITCH AND ALL THAT STUFF.

WHEN WE BUILT THIS, SOMEBODY DIDN'T LOOK AT THE RULES.

RIGHT.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? AND THAT'S WHY YEAH, ACTUALLY, YEAH.

NO, THEY DON'T.

I DON'T KNOW.

THEY MAY BE, THEY DON'T KNOW THE RULES.

SO I DON'T, I MEAN, I, I LIVED IN HOUSTON.

I KNOW THAT THE ZONING RULES ARE WAY DIFFERENT IN HOUSTON.

YOU CAN BUILD STUFF UP AND DOWN AND ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER, BUT NOT, NOT UP HERE.

UH, OUR PROBLEM IS, AND, AND I THINK YOU HEARD STAFF PRESENTATION THAT HAD, WE JUST FOLLOWED THE SIZE OF THE PITCH.

THEY COULD ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE IT AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE.

YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK TO US.

BUT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A BIG STRUCTURE, NOW THEY'VE HAD TO PUT A STOP WORK ON IT.

MM-HMM .

YOU GOT, YOU GOT A PROBLEM.

[00:40:01]

ONE QUESTION MR. BAKER ASKED, IS THERE ANOTHER CARPORT UNDER THERE? IS THERE ANOTHER CARPORT TRUCK? TRUCK THERE? JUST RIGHT THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD CARPORT, THEY WAS SMALL, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY, THEY RAISED THE PITCH, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

GET OVER THE CARPORT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO IT.

KIND OF A EASY WAY TO GET AROUND IT, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I CAN'T SUPPORT BUILDING SOMETHING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ARE OBJECTED TO IT AND IT'S AGAINST THE RULES.

RIGHT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT MODIFYING AND DOING SOMETHING.

SO, UH, FOR ME, I'M GONNA HAVE A CHALLENGE TONIGHT APPROVING SOMETHING THAT'S SO MUCH BIGGER THAN, THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NEIGHBORS ALREADY DON'T LIKE RIGHT.

BEING OUT THERE.

AND I'M VERY SORRY THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS AND I'M SORRY.

IT'S A CHALLENGE.

YEAH, NO, IT'S OKAY TO COME BEFORE US, BUT THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR SIDE AND HEAR, HEAR WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

DID WE HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MS. ADIER, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT CAN BE REDUCED? SOME YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YEAH.

WHAT SHE SAY, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS DO NOT THINK MONEY OF HAVING MONEY.

NO.

FOR THE, WELL, SHE, LIKE, SHE'S, SHE'S KIND LIKE, TELL ME SHE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY, BUT IF, IF SHE HAD TO REDUCE IT UNIT, MAKE IT SMALL UNIT, I MEAN YEAH.

YOUR, YOUR OPTIONS ARE BASICALLY THREE WAYS.

ONE, IF THIS BOARD WERE TO VOTE AND APPROVE IT MM-HMM .

YOU WOULD NEED SEVEN PEOPLE UP HERE TO VOTE.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

THAT, TO, TO APPROVE IT WHERE YOU ARE.

AND YOU GOT SEVEN OUTTA NINE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH GET, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

UH, TWO, YOU HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN, WHICH IS GONNA COST YOU MONEY ANYWAY.

YEAH.

OR THREE WE VOTE, DON'T APPROVE IT.

AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND DO, THAT'S GONNA, UNFORTUNATELY, ALMOST ALL THESE THINGS ARE GONNA WIND UP IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AT THIS POINT.

IT'S NOT FINISHED.

THAT'S GONNA COST YOU MONEY TO FINISH IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

MM-HMM .

SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEFORE US.

UH, WHERE WE ARE IS BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED HAMMERING UP STUFF ON, WE DIDN'T FOLLOW, FOLLOW US ON THAT.

SO IT MAY COME DOWN IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO, TO REDESIGN SOMETHING IN IT, BUT THAT, THAT MAY BE YOUR NEXT COURSE OF ACTION IS FIGURING OUT.

'CAUSE WHEN STAFF PRESENTED, THEY SAID, HEY, LOOK, IF IF YOU'D FOLLOWED WHAT'S ALREADY BUILT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAYS THEY CAN APPROVE IT AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY BOO ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MA'AM, ABOUT THE MONEY AND ALL THAT STUFF.

UH, BUT, BUT THAT REALLY CAN'T BE PART OF OUR DECISION.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, WHETHER IT'S GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLLOWS THE RULES, DOES IS WHAT WE'RE IN PANEL TO DO.

GO AHEAD MR. BAKER.

YEAH.

IF, IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, ALL THAT REALLY MEANS IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO MODIFY IT AND MAKE IT SMALLER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY MEANS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITY AND, AND MODIFY IT AND MAKE IT SMALLER.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE IT SMALLER IF IT, IF IT DOES IT NOT APPROVE.

CAN YOU TAKE JUST A MOMENT, TRANSLATE THAT FOR HER.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I WISH, JUST TRY TO HELP HER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I UNDERST THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I MEAN, HAVE TO MOVE YOU.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE TO GO GET ANOTHER JOB, YOU, YOU, YOU, YEAH.

UH, RELATED TO HER, LIKE ONE OF TOLD ME THE ONE THAT HELPED HER TO DO THE, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT.

SO SHE PASSED THIS PAST YEAR FOR, SO SHE HAD A REAL HARD TIME BEHIND YOU.

WELL, I, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND.

I KNOW THE HARDSHIP OF IT.

AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY WHILE HE WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU, HE WASN'T FOLLOWING THE RULES AND SO HE GOT YOU IN A BIGGER HOLE.

YOU KNOW, TRY TO HELP HER, BUT SHE SAID, I'M SORRY.

SHE FEELS SORRY FOR HER, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, FOR NOT NO, NO.

MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETIMES ON THESE THINGS IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LOOK, I MEAN, YOU DON'T BUILD CARPORTS EVERY DAY.

MM-HMM .

SO I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW MM-HMM .

BUT ANYBODY THAT GOES TO DO THIS, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT THAT SCARY AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TELL YOU THE STUFF.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED BEFORE WE, UH, FROM YOU GUYS THAT YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE GOT HERE.

YEAH.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS HELP HER AND, UH, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I'M GOING TO TELL HER, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE RULES, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THE CITY WILL WORK WITH YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AND FIND A SOLUTION.

OKAY.

AND IT MAY WIND UP COSTING YOU SOME MONEY AND I'M FOR THAT.

I'M VERY SORRY, , BUT,

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YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S NOT END INTO THE WORLD IF WE DON'T GET SEVEN VOTES HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH.

WE JUST HAVE TO WORK IT OUT, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IS ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 7? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE AND APPROVE CASE 2 3 0 2 0 0 8.

I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ZB 2 3 1 2 0 0 7 1.

SORRY, I DID NOT CHANGE THAT.

IT'S, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE, I'M READING THE WRONG THING.

NO.

YEAH.

I FORGOT TO CHANGE THE CASE NUMBER.

0 2 0 0 0 8.

0 0 8.

MM-HMM .

MY, MY APOLOGIES.

BRITTANY, TRICKED ME AGAIN.

2 3 0 2 0 0 8.

I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, MOTION IS FROM MR. BAKER.

SECOND FOR MR. SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

AND THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

NA NAY.

SO THE MOTION FAILS BY ACCOUNT OF ZERO TO NINE.

UH, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET WITH CITY STAFF ON WHAT YOUR NEXT STEPS ARE.

OKAY? OKAY.

MOVE US ON BRITTANY.

THE NEXT CASE.

[9. ZBA-23-02-0007 (Council District 5) – Variance to reduce the minimum lot width permitted for townhomes under the Unified Development Code, located at 306 SW 5th Street, legally described as Lot 2, Block 60, E.W. Dallas Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Multi Family-One Residential District]

OKAY, LAST CASE OF THE EVENING.

ALRIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE IS ZBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 0 7.

IT IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR LOT WIDTH FOR TOWN HOMES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3 0 6 SOUTHWEST FIFTH STREET.

THEY'RE REQUESTING REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED LOT WIDTH FROM 30 FEET TO 25 FEET.

SO AGAIN, TOWN HOMES HAVE THEIR LOT WITH REQUIREMENTS.

WERE 70% OF THE TOWN HOMES ON THE PROPERTY HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 30 FEET OR WIDER, AND THEN 30% ARE ALLOWED TO BE 21 TO 29 FEET.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEM TO BE 25 FEET.

SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

54 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN IN POST.

AND THERE'S NOT AN HOA STAFF WAS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS CITY, AGAIN, IS A, THIS COULD BE DEVELOPED AS A DUPLEX, UM, AND MEET ALL CITY STANDARDS NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

AND THERE ARE EXISTING DUPLEXES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE THINK STAFF FEELS THAT DUPLEXES WOULD BE A BETTER FIT THERE AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, WHAT HE'S PROPOSING ONCE, UH, TWO STORY STRUCTURE, FRONT ENTRY GARAGES DOESN'T REALLY MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE.

THEY DON'T HAVE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES AND THEY'RE ALL ABOUT, THEY'RE ALL ONE STORY, EXCEPT FOR COURSE THE APARTMENT ACROSS THE STREET STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF? AM I RIGHT? SORRY, I DID IT MYSELF.

QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.

QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.

THANK YOU BRITTANY.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

I HAVE, UH, SUNGA.

ZUNIGA, IF YOU'LL COME ON DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

HELLO SIR, MY NAME IS OGA.

MY ADDRESS IS 4 1 8 BREEZEWAY COURT, SUTER HILL, TEXAS.

SO I'M THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

SO THE REASON WHY I WANT TO DO TWO STORY DUPLEXES, BECAUSE THIS AREA, SO THIS IS AN INFILL LOT.

SO IF YOU SAW THE SLIDESHOW IN FRONT, WE HAVE APARTMENTS, IT'S CALLED SAVANNAH SQUARE.

AND TO THE SIDE WE HAVE ONE STORY RESIDENCE.

BUT THE REASON WHY, SO I MEAN THESE TOWN HOMES DON'T MATCH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES.

SO BACK THEN IT WASN'T REALLY A REQUIREMENT TO BUILD GARAGES.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS STRUCTURE THAT I'M PROPOSING, IT HAS UH, TWO CAR GARAGE AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GONNA FIT OBVIOUSLY IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THESE HOUSES ARE BUILDING IN THE FORTIES, FIFTIES.

SO BACK THEN IT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT.

NOWADAYS IT'S REQUIRED TO BUILD A GARAGE EVERY TIME WE DO A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

I MEAN, I COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO MATCH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND I COULD HAVE CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS AND SAID, OH, I WANNA BUILD TOWNHOMES, BUT WITH NO GARAGE.

BUT IF THAT WAS THE CASE, IF I WOULD'VE CAME, THAT WOULD'VE ENCOURAGED ON STREET PARKING.

SO IN THESE AREAS, LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE I'VE TOLD YOU, THERE'S A SAVANNAH SQUARE, WHICH IS APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND A LOT OF THOSE DON'T HAVE ANY CARPORTS OR ANY GARAGES.

SO THAT ENCOURAGES ON STREET PARKING.

SO IF I WERE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS AND SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT A GARAGE.

WELL, I'M ENCOURAGING ON STREET PARKING, WHICH I KNOW THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, I PERSONALLY, I KNOW THEY DON'T LIKE WHEN PEOPLE PARK THEIR CARS ON THE STREET.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M PROPOSING A, A, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THREE, THREE OF THESE TOWN HOMES TO HAVE A, A GARAGE.

UM, AND I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.

I MEAN, SOMETHING NEW IN THIS AREA, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF OLDER HOMES, I MEAN, I'VE GOTTEN AN APPROACHED BY SOME INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD.

I MEAN, NO, THEY DIDN'T SEND ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE OPPOSING, I MEAN OPPOSING OR, YOU KNOW, IN FAVOR, BUT YOU AT THE SAME TIME, NOBODY OPPOSED, UH, MY PROPOSAL.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.

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UM, YEAH, AND IT'S TRUE OBVIOUSLY TWO DU TWO DUPLEXES COULD FIT 30 WIDE, 30 FEET WIDE EACH.

HOWEVER, UM, I THINK THE LAND IS BIG ENOUGH IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THREE TOWN HOMES 25 FEET WIDE, BECAUSE I MEAN, AT THE SAME TIME IT'S A RANGE.

SO 70% OF THEM COULD BE 30 FEET OR PLUS AND ALSO 30% COULD BE 25 FEET.

SO I MEAN, I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LEANING TOWARDS 25.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, IF A HUNDRED PERCENT HAD TO BE 30 FEET WIDE, THEN I OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND I I'LL DO 30 FEET.

BUT SINCE IT'S A RANGE, THEN I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, PETITION FOR THAT.

'CAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DONE AT THESE TOWN HOMES OVER HERE, THE ONES AT THE VE AND OBVIOUSLY WHY NOT? LIKE WHAT COULDN'T I TRY AS WELL? SO I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK.

SO ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER HOMES, NOT A LOT OF NEW HOMES.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD, SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE AREA.

WELL, I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT IT BEING AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND A LOT OF THOSE HOMES BUILT 50, 60 YEARS AGO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING AND LOOKING LIKE THINGS BELONG.

I'M, YEAH, I WOULD BE CONCERNED FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE ONE STORY HOUSES, CERTAINLY TWO STORY HOUSES.

YEAH, CORRECT.

BUT HOWEVER, THESE, THESE HOUSES ACTUALLY WOULD BE FOR RENT, THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE FOR SALE.

SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, MY HOUSE DOESN'T MEAN MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A TWO STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT IN FRONT.

SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF MAKES AND MATCH, SO TO SPEAK.

IT'S NOT EVERY, LIKE, THE WHOLE BLOCK IS, YOU KNOW, ONE STORY.

'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ALSO APARTMENT COMPLEXES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STREET, SO RIGHT IN FRONT OF DOWN THE STREET.

YEAH.

SO I, I WOULD SAY THERE'S LIKE A HYBRID, SO TO SPEAK, CROSS STREET.

SO JUST RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, THE SAVANNAH SQUARE, SO YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME ASK THE BOARD ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT TO MY RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT TO MY LEFT, MS. HUBACHEK? SO RIGHT, IS IT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? YES.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT ACROSS, I MEAN, LIKE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FRONT.

I MEAN, IF I COULD COME BACK OR TWO STORY APARTMENTS.

YEAH, TWO STORY APARTMENTS.

YEAH.

TWO, TWO STORY APARTMENTS.

YES.

RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, CORRECT? YES.

RIGHT IN FRONT.

RIGHT IN THE OVERHEAD IS IF YOU LOOK ON GOOGLE MAPS, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

SO YEAH, THERE'S, OH YEAH, RIGHT IN FRONT, RIGHT THERE.

UH, THE, THOSE SQUARES, THEY'RE TWO STORY APARTMENTS, SO THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD SAY IT MATCHES LIKE A HYBRID.

LIKE I SAID, HAVE RID OF, YOU KNOW, SO.

OKAY.

BECAUSE REGARDLESS, IMAGINE IF THIS WEREN'T TO PASS.

I MEAN, I COULD STILL, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT THESE HOUSES WOULD STILL BE TWO STORIES THERE'S NO, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT FROM THE, UM, FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING, SO.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT LOOKING LEFT MR. ADE? SO, SO THESE ARE, YOU SAID YOU'RE BUILDING THESE TO RENT? YES, SIR.

THEY'RE NOT BUILDING.

MM-HMM.

YOU'RE NOT BUILDING THEM.

YES, SIR.

TO RENT? YES.

UH, BASICALLY THIS AREA, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF MY OTHER BUILDER FRIENDS, THEY'VE HAD TROUBLE SELLING THE HOUSES HERE.

LIKE I SAID, UH, NEW, THE, THE FEW NEW CONSTRUCTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THIS AREA HAVE HAD TROUBLE, UH, SELLING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS MARKET.

SO OBVIOUSLY I WANTED TO RENT, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION IN THIS AREA.

SO, SO WHAT WILL THE RENTAL PRICE BE AT THIS POINT? I, I'M, I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT IT'LL BE PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME ALMOST AS SAVANNAH SQUARE FOR LIKE A TWO, WELL, IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE THREE, THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BATHS.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE MARKET WITHIN LIKE A ONE MILE, TWO MILE RADIUS AND SEE WHAT THE RENT IS LIKE.

AND ALSO THEN I'LL TAKE, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO MAYBE 2000, 2,500.

UM, AND ALSO ANOTHER THING IS OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU SEE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

SO, YOU KNOW, TOWN HOME WOULD GIVE SOMEBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE HAVE A HOME OBVIOUSLY AS WELL.

BUT OBVIOUSLY LIKE IN A ALMOST APARTMENT LIKE SETTING.

SO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, HAVE A BACKYARD, HAVE A FRONT YARD, NO NEIGHBORS ON TOP.

SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY WOULD BE TO YOUR SIDES.

SO IT'D BE A BIT DIFFERENT.

OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS, IF, IF YOU DECIDE THAT IF, IF YOU, HYPOTHETICALLY IF YOU WERE TO DO DUPLEXES, WOULD THEY BE TWO STORY? TWO, YES MA'AM.

THERE WOULD BE TWO STORY TWO.

SO EITHER WAY.

YEAH, EITHER WAY.

YEAH.

AND YOU'RE GOING, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS IF THAT WAS A DUPLEX FOR TWO STORY AS WELL.

'CAUSE UM, YES MA'AM.

IF YOU DID DUPLEXES, WOULD YOU BE TO DO THREE OR WOULD IT BE LIMITED TO TWO? IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO TWO, BUT LIKE I SAID, SO IS THAT THE ISSUE? MAYBE, WELL, THAT YOU'RE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO MAXIMIZE WITHIN THE THREE, BUT, BUT IS THAT WHAT THAT WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO? WELL, REALLY THE ONLY, THE PROPERTY, YEAH.

WELL, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M HERE REALLY PETITIONING FOR, FOR THE THREES TO BE 25 FEET WIDE IS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT IS A RANGE.

SO 70% OF THE TOWN HOMES HAVE TO BE 30 FEET OR MORE, WHEREAS 30% HAVE TO BE 25 FEET OR MORE.

SO I'M GOING TO THE RANGE WHERE IT'S LIKE 30% TO MAKE IT A HUNDRED.

IF, IF, IF IN THE, IN THE BUILDING CODE HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE WOULD'VE SAID THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT HAVE TO BE 30 OR MORE, THEN I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND I WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A RANGE FOR A REASON.

SO I'M GOING, YOU KNOW, TRYING

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TO GO MR. BAKER.

YES.

WHAT HE'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT THE, THE RULES ARE THAT IT'S WITHIN THE CODE THAT HE'S TRYING TO STAY, BUT HE JUST, BUT HE'S HERE BECAUSE IT'S A VARIANCE HE HAS TO ASK FOR.

RIGHT.

SO, SO TO MAKE NUMBERS SIMPLER, IMAGINE IF ROBERT BUILD 10 TOWN HALL, SO TO SPEAK, 70%, WHICH WOULD BE SEVEN OF THOSE HAD TO BE 30, AND THEN THREE OF THOSE, WHICH 30% HAVE TO BE 25 FEET WIDE.

SO I'M JUST COMING TO SAY THAT I WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEM TO BE 25 FEET WIDE.

WELL, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IF IT IS LIKE IT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY VARIANCE I WOULD'VE ASKED FOR.

LIKE EVERYTHING LIVING WISE, UH, SQUARE FOOT WISE, LIVING WISE, LOT WISE, EVERYTHING, IT RESPECTS THE CODE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY VARIANCE.

SO THE ONLY REASON YOU'RE HERE TODAY IS TO GET THE VARIANCE FIVE FEET? YES, MA'AM.

I MEAN, MEAN WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE IF IT'S TWO STORY, ONE STORY.

YEAH, YEAH.

CORRECT.

WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THAT.

PERFECT.

YES.

THE LOT.

THE LOT.

YEAH.

PRETTY MUCH THE LOT.

NO, NO, NO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? MR. BAKER? I SEE MR. HEINE.

GO AHEAD, BRITTANY.

DO THEY MEET THE SIDE SETBACKS AND THE REAR SET, THE FRONT SIDE SETBACKS? THIS IS THE ONLY VARIANCE HE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST.

THIS IS THE ONLY VARIANCE THAT HE NEEDS IS THE MM-HMM .

30 FEET, 25.

IF HE'S, IF HE'S 30 FEET TO 25 BUILDING TOWN HOMES, YES.

GOTCHA.

BUT THESE WERE DUPLEXES THEN HE WOULD'VE NEEDED, HE WOULD NOT NEED A VARIANCE.

NO.

IF ANYONE GET TO STAY UP.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE APPLICANT, I THINK WE'VE CLARIFIED A LOT ON THAT.

YEP.

UM, I KNOW IT'S HELPED ME A LITTLE BIT.

UM, ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

MR. DING, GO AHEAD.

SO DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE DOING? UH, I HAVE IT ACTUALLY.

I SUBMITTED IT TO THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IN, IN THE PLANS THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, I HAVE ELEVATIONS AND EVERYTHING FOR HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE LOOK OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET? WELL, IT WOULD BE AS KIND OF SIDING, SIDING ALMOST IN ALL THESE HOUSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SIDING.

SO IT WOULD BE, UH, BOARD AND BATON.

CAN HE HAVE HIS LIKE, LIKE HARDY BOARD WITH LIKE BAT STRIPS OF BATON AND IT'LL BE JUST PAINTED.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A MODERNISH LOOK.

IT WAS KIND OF COMPARED TO LIKE THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT HERE ON 1 61 BY A 20.

DOES, DOES THAT MEET THE BUILT? YES.

DOES THIS FALL UNDER THE BUILDING CODES OF THAT GET APPROVED BY P AND Z WITH ALL THE MASONRY AND STUFF? DO THEY HAVE TO WELL, YEAH.

BUILDING, WELL ACTUALLY MASON, EVEN FOR APARTMENTS STUFF, WELL ACTUALLY, UH, HARD SIDING AND HARDEE BOARD FALLS UNDER MASONRY PERCENTAGE.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? IS EBA 2 3 0 2 0 0 7? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE.

ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

TOOSE AND APPROVE CASE 2 3 0 2 0 0 0 7.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BAKER.

A SECOND FROM MS. A.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN BY COUNT OF WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU? YEAH.

APPROVE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GOT THE RIGHT COUNT.

I, I'M COUNTING EIGHT ONE.

OKAY.

YEAH, I WAS MR. EPO OPPOSED THE OTHER EIGHT I EIGHT? YEAH.

HANDS WERE JUMPING ALL.

SO BY ACCOUNT OF EIGHT TO ONE, THIS MOTION DOES PASS AND IS APPROVED, WHICH TAKES US TO THE NEXT ITEM ON AGENDA, WHICH IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.

I SEE NO CITIZEN COMMENTS BEFORE US UNLESS CASH HAS SOMETHING TO TELL US.

SO THIS WILL CONCLUDE OUR NO CASH .

THIS WILL CONCLUDE OUR AGENDA.

WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:45 PM Y'ALL HAVE GOOD NIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND BY THE WAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

THIS FIRST ONE.

YES.

THANK YOU NINE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.