[Planning and Zoning Staff Briefing]
[00:00:05]
WELCOME TO THE STAFF BRIEFING OF THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH.
I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS STAFF BRIEFING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO WATER AT 5:33 PM THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS WHERE THE STAFF BRIEFS THE COMMISSION AND PREVIEWS THE CASES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY FACILITATE THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION OF CASES.
NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE BRIEFING.
PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 6:30 PM I'LL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY HERE.
HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR ANNA COCA, QUENTIN, PETE, AND FRANK GONZALEZ.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS, UH, FOR WHICH WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MA'AM.
ANY ITEMS WE NEED TO DISCUSS? OF COURSE.
ALRIGHT, SO THE, THIS IS THE FINAL PLOT FOR GREAT SOUTHWEST LOGISTICS EDITION, AND TYPICALLY THIS WOULD BE APPROVED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, THE REASON IT'S, UH, BEING PRESENTED IS THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A FINAL PLAT CREATING TWO LOTS ON ABOUT 23.4271 ACRES.
UH, THEY ARE REQUIRING A VARIANCE BECAUSE LOT TWO DOES NOT HAVE STREET FRONTAGE.
UM, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THIS LOT RIGHT HERE DOES NOT FRONT A STREET, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE UDC.
UH, THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL, IF THIS LOT IS EVER DEVELOPED, PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT LOT.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN A VARIANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL TO THE REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 12 POINT, 17.3 OF THE UDC, THAT THE LOT FACED THE STREET PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THAT PLAT FOR CITY SIGNATURES AND FILING IT WITH THE COUNTY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS INTERESTING.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
WHAT ABOUT THE NOT BEING, UH, IN THE FRONT? HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE? THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW INSTANCES.
DOES IT SEEM LIKE THE APPLICANT IS, UH, AMENABLE TO ALL OF THIS? YES.
AND THEY'VE ESTABLISHED THAT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE THE, THE ACCESS TO THIS LOT.
UH, SO STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? MM-HMM
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A ZONING CHANGE LOCATED AT 1306 RANCH ROAD.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURE TO A SINGLE FAMILY FIVE DISTRICT, AND THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE OUR ZONING MAPS AND THE GREEN REPRESENTS THE AGRICULTURE ZONING DISTRICT.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT THERE ARE SEVEN INSTANCES WHERE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A ZONING CHANGE, UH, TO SINGLE FAMILY FIVE, AND THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
THE MATTHEW ROAD MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1968 BY MEETS AND BOUNDS.
IT WAS THEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1969 AND HAD THE ZONING OF AGRICULTURE.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, CITY COUNCILS APPROVED SEVEN ZONING CHANGES TO SINGLE FAMILY.
TO ALLOW THE APPLICANTS TO CONSTRUCT THE SITE-BUILT HOMES, UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE COMMUNITY PROVIDES WATER THROUGH A PRIVATE DISTRICT, WHICH IS MONITORED BY, MONITORED BY TCEQ, AND THEN THE ACCESS TO THIS LOT IS OFF OF RANCH ROAD.
AND ALL OF THE INTERNAL ROADS ARE, UM, MAINTAINED AT A MINIMAL LEVEL, AND THEY ARE, HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, DEDICATED AS RIDE OF WAY TO THE CITY.
SO IT'S THAT COMMUNITY THAT DOES THE INTERNAL MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE'S A LACK OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA TO ADEQUATELY SERVICE NEW HOMES, ALONG WITH BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN BAD WEATHER.
STAFF IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM INTEGRITY OF THE CURRENT WATER SYSTEMS STARVING THE PARK.
AND ADDITIONALLY, IN THE PAST, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ENCOUNTERED INSTANCES OF DIFFICULTY ACCESSING THOSE PROPERTIES WHEN THEY ARE RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY CALLS DURING EXTREME WEATHER.
UH, GIVEN ALL OF THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
[00:05:01]
DOES NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE ZONING REQUEST DUE TO THE LACK OF SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY.SHOULD THE ZONING CHANGE BE APPROVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A PLAT AND FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY BEFORE THE CITY ISSUES ANY BUILDING PERMITS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? YEAH, SO I KNOW THERE ARE MOBILE HOMES BACK THERE AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT AGAIN AND I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING WHILE YOU WERE TALKING TOO.
SO THEY CAN'T EVEN PUT A MOBILE HOME ON IT AS IT CURRENTLY IS, OR THEY CAN'T? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD EXCEPT FOR THIS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, WHAT YOU CONSIDER THE OTHER HOUSES BEING, I MEAN, THE OTHER PROPERTIES BEING GRANDFATHERED IN.
IS THAT WHY YOU'RE ABLE TO STILL COME, BRING THESE OTHER, UH, PRESENTATIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE THE, THE SEPTICS AND ALL OF THAT? I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY USE THAT TERM.
I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S A EXISTING ISSUE SINCE MM-HMM
SINCE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT WAS CREATED, UH, THE, THE LACK OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED YET.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'D BE VERY EXPENSIVE, WOULDN'T IT? IT'S BEEN ON THE RADAR OF CITY AND, UH, CITY COUNCIL FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY ARE LOOKING AT USING SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE GOVERNMENT HERE OF LATE TO POSSIBLY DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
NOW, THE STREETS, THAT'S STILL A PRIVATE MATTER.
UM, BUT WE'RE TALKING WATER, SEWER, THAT TYPE OF SCENARIO.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS AS OF YET.
SO, OF THE PAST, Y'ALL SEEN THESE QUITE A FEW MM-HMM
COUNCIL HAS BEEN APPROVING THESE WITH, I GUESS THAT UNDERSTANDING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY WE CAN'T FULLY SUPPORT MM-HMM
WE UNDERSTAND THE AREA STILL ALLOWED TO DEVELOP.
WE CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.
SO WE STILL WANT TO SHOW THAT WE ARE APPROVING THIS, NOT NECESSARILY APPROVING THIS, BUT NOTING THE CONCERNS.
SO EVERYBODY IS FULLY AWARE, EVERYTHING'S TRANSPARENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD ON THESE LOTS.
AT LEAST THEY KNOW GOING IN WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT YES, IT SEEMS LIKE TO MY CONCERN WOULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, AND NOT BEING FULLY READY FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
THEY'RE ONLY, THERE ARE 93 UNITS ALREADY THERE.
I THINK YOU, I THINK IT'S WHAT I READ AND, UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, PROPER, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, DRIVE THROUGH AND THEN THE OTHER STUFF.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
OH, AND ANNA COCA JUST ARRIVED 5 36.
THIS NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT LOCATED AT 1825 GALVESTON STREET.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR AN SUP FOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES.
INDOOR, UH, TO ALLOW AN INDOOR CORN HOLE FACILITY.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN IS THE FLOOR PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THEY'VE GOT, UH, 19 QUARTS FOR INDOOR CORN HOLE.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE BYOB AS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS.
THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS PROVIDED ACROSS THE STREET VIA A PARKING AGREEMENT AND THEIR PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION.
OUR SUNDAY, 1:00 PM TO 10:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 5:00 PM TO 11:00 PM FRIDAY, 12:00 PM TO 12:00 AM AND THEN SATURDAY, 12:00 AM TO 1:00 AM AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, THE FIRST IS THAT EIGHT LINE GAMING MACHINE SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
AND THIS IS NOT PART OF THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, UH, PD WANTED TO HAVE AS PART OF THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, THEN THE SECOND IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN THAT EXISTING PARKING AGREEMENT.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FCO, WHAT'S A EIGHT LINE GAMING MACHINE? LIKE? IT, IT'S A SLOT MACHINE.
ARE SLOT MACHINES ALREADY ILLEGAL? YES.
THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THEM AND ARE OPERATING THOSE ILLEGALLY.
IT TECHNICALLY DEPENDS UPON THE INTERNAL SETTINGS OF THE DEVICE AS TO WHETHER IT'S A GAMBLING DEVICE OR NOT.
SO I I CAN PROVIDE YOU A LONG EXPLANATION LATER IF YOU WANT.
I WAS GONNA ASK THAT SAME QUESTION 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.
SO I SEE BEHIND HIS SINGLE FAMILY, AND I'M SORRY, DID I NOT, DID I MISS, WERE THERE ANY RESPONSES TO ANY NOTIFICATION? WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN OPPOSITION AND I, I WOULD HAVE TO PULL THAT.
THAT ADDRESS UP? I BELIEVE IT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET.
WAS IT A RESIDENTIAL RESPONSE, IF YOU RECALL? I DON'T RECALL.
[00:10:01]
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TOO.I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE AS WELL.
IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
I THINK THAT'S IT ON THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND A SITE PLAN FOR, UH, ABOUT 2.8 ACRES AT MARSHALL AND BELTLINE.
UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS AN SUP AND A SITE PLAN.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.
THE PART OF THE, THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES ONE OF THE LEASE SPACES BEING A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THAT'S WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE SUP COMPONENT.
IT IS ZONED PD 3 3 58 FOR GENERAL RETAIL USES.
AND SINCE IT'S WITHIN A PD AND REQUIRES AN SUP, IT ALSO REQUIRES A SITE PLAN.
SO ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
I WILL NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY, A PORTION OF IT IS WITHIN THE FLOODWAY AND FLOODPLAIN.
UH, THIS IS THE DEVELOPABLE AREA THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP.
IT DOES MEET OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITH ONE EXCEPTION AND ACCESS IS BEING PROVIDED OFF OF MARSHALL.
THEY'RE MEETING OUR LANDSCAPE AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING PROVIDING A MASONRY SCREENING WALL.
UH, SINCE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THESE ARE THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS THAT INCLUDE STONE, BRICK, AND STUCCO.
THEY'VE GOT ARTICULATION WINDOWS, CANOPIES, AND AWNINGS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TWO TOWER ELEMENTS.
THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT TO ALLOW THE TWO TOWER ELEMENTS WITH A HEIGHT OF 36 FEET.
THE MAX ALLOWED HEIGHT IS 25 FEET.
SO THOSE, UH, TWO, UH, CORNER ELEMENTS, UM, ARE REQUIRING THAT VARIANCE.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A LID, TRASH RECEPTACLE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE.
AND THIS IS OUR STANDARD RECOMMENDATION FOR RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL, UH, PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO, UM, I SAW THERE WERE SOME OPPOSITION LETTERS THERE.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? SO THE, I BELIEVE FOUR OF THEM WERE FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.
UM, LET ME PULL UP THE LOCATION MAP.
UH, THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE, UH, THEY DIDN'T ELABORATE ON WHY THEY'RE, UH, OPPOSED THE REQUESTS.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER COUPLE TODAY THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND SHERIFF BEING USED AS A A, A THROUGHWAY, UM, NO SPECIFICS ON IT RELATED TO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, JUST MORE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC ACCESS AND, UH, THE, IT'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
A SENSE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT IN GRAND PRAIRIE
WERE THERE ANY MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER COLEMAN? SO, UH, THEY'RE PLANNING ON FILLING THE POND THAT'S THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND THE FLOODWAYS, UH, IS THAT CREEK THAT RUN BEHIND IT? CORRECT? YES.
UM, AND SO THE, THE PORTION THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING ARE, IS OUT OF THAT, THAT AREA? I THINK THAT WAS THE OLD, UH, WHAT DID THEY DO? THE ROPES? WHAT WAS THAT? THAT COMPANY? UH, EMMONDS.
EMMETT BENNY? NO, PETE AND BENNY EMMONDS.
AND THAT'S THEIR ORIGINAL HOUSE BEHIND THERE ALSO, ISN'T IT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE UP IN OKLAHOMA NOW, I THINK.
GOT A GOOD HISTORY LESSON HERE NOW.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I THINK THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA ASK IS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE, DID THEY DO A TRAFFIC STUDY? IS IT TOO EARLY FOR THAT? THEIR THERE LEVEL, UH, AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T TRIGGER THAT THRESHOLD OF REQUIRING A TIA.
I THINK THAT'S IT ON THAT ONE.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN.
UH, SO WHENEVER THERE IS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND MORE THAN ONE SIGN ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST THAT REQUIRES VARIANCES, WE BRING IT FORWARD IN A UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN.
UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED A FEW, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO FOR THIS LOCATION INCLUDED A CAR WASH, A GAS STATION RESTAURANT.
UM, SO THERE ARE TWO MULTI-TENANT MONUMENT SIGNS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THAT REQUIRE VARIANCES.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST SIGN, SIGN A, THEY'RE PROPOSING A 55 FOOT TALL SIGN.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE SETBACKS TO ALLOW LESS THAN 30 FEET.
AND THEN A VARIANCE, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE AREA TO ALLOW THE 670 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE SIGN B VARIANCE IS LIMITED TO
[00:15:01]
THE SETBACK.WE REQUIRE ONE FOOT FOR EVERY ONE FOOT IN HEIGHT, AND THERE'S SETBACK LESS THAN A FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO AGAIN, VARIANCES FOR THE MAX HEIGHT FOR SIGN A, UH, THERE'S SETBACK VARIANCES FOR BOTH SIGN A AND SIGN B.
AND THEN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE AREA FOR SIGN A, UH, TO ALLOW 670 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
CAN YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE SIGN AGAIN? BECAUSE I'M SO THEY'RE GONNA BE, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA BE POSITIONED EXACTLY? IS THAT THE TALL 55 FOOT SIGN WILL BE HERE, AND THEN THE, THE SHORTER SIGN IS OVER HERE.
AND SO THERE'S ONLY GONNA, SO FAR HOW MANY, UH, APPLICANT'S GONNA BE ON THE SIGN? ON THE, YOU SAID THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE, UH, COMPANY'S GONNA BE ON THE SIGN, OR IS IT? YES.
SO MULTI-TENANT MEANS EVERYONE IN THE DEVELOPMENT VERSUS JUST A SINGLE USER.
AND THE TENANTS RIGHT NOW ARE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON THE SCREEN.
UH, I THINK THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE AND CAN CONFIRM, WELL, THAT'S FOUR TENANTS THERE.
WHERE'S FIVE STATE? OH, I'M SORRY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER MADDEN? SO WHAT IS THE, HOW MUCH HIGHER THAN THE STANDARD HEIGHT ARE THEY ASKING? WHAT'S THE STANDARD WANT? THE STANDARD IS 25 AND THEY'RE ASKING 55.
SO WHY DOES, WELL, WHY, WHY, WHY DOES THE DRC? SO LIKE, SO LOOKING AT THE AREA, UM, THAT'S A BIG, LIKE MORE THAN TWICE I'M LIKE OUR UDC USED TO ALLOW TALL SIGNS MM-HMM
UM, AND JUST NORTH OF THIS IS A SHOPPING CENTER WITH A MULTI-TENANT SIGN OF THE SAME HEIGHT.
UH, SO STAFF KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT, UM, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION HAD THAT OTHER SIGN NOT BEEN THERE.
AND THAT, THAT SAME, SAME HEIGHT.
BUT ON THE OTHER END OF THAT, IS THAT, IS IT CLOSE TO ANY RESIDENTIAL AT ALL? IT'S GONNA BE SO TALL.
THERE ARE APARTMENTS, UM, TO THE SOUTHEAST, UM, KIND OF RIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE WAYS AWAY, BUT IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY LIGHTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT 'CAUSE THAT IS PRETTY TALL BECAUSE, SO I GUESS THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THE FOLKS COMING THAT WAY WILL SEE IT BEFORE THEY GET THERE.
IT'S MORE OF A SAFETY, LIKE RUNNING OUTTA GAS, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE AREA NOW, THAT PORTION OF 360 IS RECESSED AND IT'S NOT THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
THEY'RE TALKING, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE HIGHWAY, SO IT'S QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THEIR LOCATION.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING UP, THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA BE ABOVE, BUT THE BRIDGE AND ALL THE OTHER OBSTRUCTIONS, I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING.
'CAUSE WHEN I'M GETTING READY TO RUN OUTTA GAS, I'M LOOKING BEFORE I GET OFF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE 34, BATTERY ENERGY, ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS, UH, TO AMEND ARTICLE FOUR AND 30, UH, WE'RE GONNA DEFINE THE USE AND WE'RE GONNA ADD IT IN A, AN ALLOWED ACCESSORY USE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN PROPOSE SOME SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, SO WE ARE DEFINING THIS AS DEVICES THAT ENABLE ENERGY FROM RENEWABLES LIKE SOLAR OR WIND OR UNUSED ENERGY SUPPLIED TO THE GRID IN TIMES OF LOW DEMAND TO BE STORED AND THEN RELEASED AT A LATER TIME.
SO THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO THE, UM, WE HAVE SEEN A REQUEST FROM AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD THIS AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE SCREENED FROM VIEW FROM THE STREET BY EITHER A MASONRY SCREENING WALL OR A LIVING SCREEN THAT'S AT LEAST EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT AT THE TIME OF PLANTING.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
REMEMBER IN THE NEWS A WHILE BACK, THERE WAS A LOT OF THEFT AND, UM, MILIANS GOING ON WITH THE, UH, ELECTRICAL, UH, WITH, WHAT WAS IT? UM, WHAT WAS IT? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THE COPPER OR SOMETHING.
YOU REMEMBER THE WAY THERE WERE SOME, UH, CORRUPTION AND THEN THE EVERYBODY'S LIGHTS WENT OUT WHEN THEY HAD ALL THAT.
UM, IT WASN'T HERE PER SE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THEY HAD THE UTILITIES.
THEY, AND, AND THEN SOMEBODY WENT IN AND DAMAGED THE UTILITIES AND THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ELECTRICITY.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I'M THAT WAS UP IN NORTH CAROLINA.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SAFETY WISE, THAT HE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN PUTTING THESE UP.
SO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, THE PERSON WHO, OR THE COMPANY WHO WANTS TO DO THIS, IT WOULD BE SECURED, UM, STAFF IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCREENING ASPECT, BUT
[00:20:01]
THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES WOULD, WOULD SECURE IT IN WHATEVER WAY THAT'S NEEDED.I THINK THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT IN THE SITUATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS A SPECIFIC ACCESSORY USE FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE POWER STATIONS.
SO ANYBODY WHO WOULD MESS WITH THIS WOULD BE JUST LIKE SOMEBODY MESSING WITH YOUR AC SYSTEM, YOUR AC UNIT.
SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO SECURE IT.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY HEALTH CONSEQUENCES TO HAVING THESE? LIKE, I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY WORDING IN HERE THAT TALKED ABOUT PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ARE THERE ANY HEALTH CONSEQUENCES TO I I DIDN'T COME ACROSS ANY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO? YEAH.
SO, UM, RASHAD KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS A BUSINESS WHO WANTS TO USE THIS AS A BACKUP POWER SUPPLY FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
IS THE APPLICANT GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT? NO, I DO, I WORK IN THIS FIELD.
I WONDER IF THIS IS A, IF THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO PLAY IN THE ELECTRICITY MARKET, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T USE A BEST AS BACKUP FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
'CAUSE A DIESEL GENERATOR IS WAY CHEAPER AND WAY EASIER TO MAINTAIN.
BUT IF YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE CENTER OF A LOAD PLACE LIKE GRAND PRAIRIE MM-HMM
YOU CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AT PEAK HOURS OF DEMAND.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THEY'RE DOING IT SAYING THIS BACKUP FOR MY, FOR MY BUSINESS, BUT THEY REALLY WANNA PLAY IN THE SPOT MARKET FOR ELECTRICITY.
COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WAS JUST GONNA START PUTTING THOSE AROUND.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE OF ITS KIND.
AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DEFINE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE USE DEFINED IN OUR UDC.
AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE TO CREATE A DEFINITION AND ADD IT TO OUR USE CHARTS.
SO THAT'S NOT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE FLU.
SO WHEN THINGS, THINGS LIKE THIS COME UP, YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT.
IT JUST, YOU JUST ADD IT AND THEN LATER ON IT'LL BE A PART OF THE MAJOR.
THE NEXT TIME YOU DO A FLUE, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO A FLUE AGAIN? WELL, THIS WOULDN'T BE A PART OF THE FLUE AS LIKE A STANDALONE LAND USE MM-HMM
SO, UM, THIS PROCESS IN ITSELF WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD DO.
SO WE TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME SO WHEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL REQUESTS COMING ALONG, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
WE JUST, THESE, THESE ARE NEW BRAND NEW USES.
THE SOLAR HAS BEEN A BIG, BIG DEAL.
UH, WE GOT SOME NEW, NEW AMENDMENTS FOR THAT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE WE HAD TO, UH, BRING THINGS UP TO THE NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS NEW COMMISSIONER
I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANTS HERE TO PROBABLY ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
AND I, I, I WILL SAY JUST ON THAT NOTE, WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO DO HAVE HA WHO HAVE INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS WHO CAN ALSO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A TRIGGER THAT WE WOULD WANT TO TABLE.
'CAUSE I THINK ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA MAKE THIS INVESTMENT, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DICTATE WHAT THEY DO WITH THE POWER.
BUT I THINK THE POINT I WAS GONNA RAISE RASHAD, 'CAUSE I'M NOT, UM, AVERSE TO THIS MM-HMM
BUT IF, IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW BEST SYSTEMS IN THE CITY FOR PLAYING THE SPOT MARKET AND ELECTRICITY, THEY MAY BE SUBJECT TO A DIFFERENT KIND OF REGULATION OR OVERSIGHT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY THAT'S USING IT AS A BACKUP FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES.
'CAUSE IF IT'S REALLY JUST GONNA BE A BEST SYSTEM THAT'S PLAYING IN THE SPOT MARKET, THE BUSINESS CAN GO AWAY AND THEY CAN KEEP THIS DIRT YEAH.
TO, TO, WITH THE BATTERIES THERE.
WELL, THIS WOULD NEVER BE A STANDALONE USE.
WE HAVE THIS AS ACCESSORY USE.
COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
UH, THE COMMISSIONER COCO'S POINT, UH, I THINK THAT WITH IT, WITH THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY HAVE AND THE CITY ALREADY APPROVING IT, I MEAN, UH, RECOMMENDING IT SO FAR, I THINK MAYBE THAT MAY BE A REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT HERE.
THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A NEED TO TO BE HERE SINCE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING OUTTA COMPLIANCE.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? CORRECT.
AND ANYTIME WE HAVE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADD A USE, SOMETIMES IT'S DRIVEN BY TRENDS THAT STAFF IS SEEN.
SOMETIMES IT'S, WE GET A PARTICULAR QUESTION FOR AN APPLICANT, BUT, UH, IF
[00:25:01]
THIS IS APPROVED AND ALLOWED, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIMITED TO THAT SINGLE APPLICANT.TYPICALLY HOW WE HANDLE THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
SO THIS IS JUST UP UPDATING AND UPGRADING, GOING ALONG WITH THE, THE NEW TRENDS.
SO THAT WOULD BE THAT IT SHOULD BE OKAY.
I WOULD THINK COMMISSIONER, BUT THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'S IT ON THAT ONE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE 30, AND IT'S FOR EV CHARGING STATION.
SO AGAIN, LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS TO DEFINE THE USE AND ALLOW IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO WE ARE DEFINING IT AS ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION AS A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PARKING SPACE THAT IS SERVED BY BATTERY CHARGING STATION EQUIPMENT THAT HAS AS ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE, THE TRANSFER OF ELECTRICITY ENERGY TO A BATTERY OR OTHER ENERGY STORAGE DEVICE IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
UH, SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ALLOW IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE IN NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO REQUIRE THAT THESE CHARGING STATIONS MEET SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE, AND THEN CLARIFYING THAT THEY DO REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, SO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MADDEN? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I, THERE'S NO DETERMINATION OR RESTRICTION ON HEIGHT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I COULD JUST SEE PEOPLE USING IT AS ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TOO.
AND, AND SO IN THAT CASE WE'VE SEEN ONE THAT WE WOULD CLASSIFY IT AS A SIGN AND THAT'S NOT AN ALLOWED SIGN, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT THIS IS CASE BY CASE ON THESE SINCE THEY'RE BRAND NEW.
SO YOU SAID IT COULD EITHER BE A MASONRY WALL OR THE, THE, UM, THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE SCENERY OF THE, UH, BUSHES.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PREVIOUS ONE.
THE BATTERY ENERGY SYSTEMS. THIS IS A, A CHARGING STATION IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE MM-HMM
UH, I GO SHOP IN A DISTRICT, THAT LOCATION MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS THAT YOU CAN USE MM-HMM
AND SO THIS IS A REQUEST WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE MM-HMM
AND SINCE IT'S NOT IN OUR USE CHARTS MM-HMM
UH, WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT USE.
BUT ON THE CHARGING STATION ITSELF, IT'S JUST GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING IN THE SURROUNDING IT AT ALL.
PRETTY MUCH ON THE CHARGING STATIONS.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SIMILAR TO THE CHARGING STATIONS OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT CENTER AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
NO, AND TO COMMISSIONER MANNING'S, UH, POINT, UH, A LOT OF THIS WAS TRIGGERED BY SOMEONE WANTING TO USE ONE OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS FOR OFFSITE SIGNAGE.
SO BEING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS, WE FELT THE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING QUICKLY, DESCRIPTIONS, I GUESS THEY COULD ALWAYS ARGUE THAT IT WAS A CHARGING STATION THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE THEIR BRAND AT THE TOP.
WE'RE NOT CONCERNED WITH THE, THE BRAND OF THE CHARGING STATION.
BUT I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AS FAR AS MAX HEIGHT, I HAVEN'T SEEN US HAVE THAT ISSUE.
THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS, IT'S JUST A BILLBOARD ATTACHED TO THE CHARGING STATION, WHICH BEING THAT IT'S NOT NOTED IS CLEARLY DEFINED.
WE KIND OF LEFT IT FLEXIBLE TRYING TO AVOID A WHOLE BUNCH OF ZBA VARIANCES AND WHATNOT.
WE GOT, YEAH, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, WELL, THEY, THEY EVER SET LIKE A TIME LIMIT THAT YOU CAN BE IN A CHARGING SPACE? I MEAN, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO I CAN PARK MY DIESEL TRUCK IN THERE,
UNTIL SOMEBODY CAME AND JUST LIKE ME TOLD YOU, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY PEOPLE CAN GET ENERGY FOR FREE OUT FRONT OUT HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S NO DIESEL PUMP OUT THERE, A PARTICULAR TYPE OF CHARGING STATION.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL CHARGE YOU MONEY IF YOU ARE PARKED THERE.
THAT'S I AND, AND YOU'VE FILLED UP YOUR BATTERY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD INDUSTRY STANDARD, BUT THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES THAT DO THAT.
THIS IS NEW, SO WE'LL GET, TRY TO GET USED TO IT.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, TAKE THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER ON BOARD TODAY.
UM, MARTIN CABALLERO HAS BEEN REPLACED BY, UH, CJ CARL, UM, RAMIREZ, WELCOME TO, UH, THE COMMISSION AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME.
'CAUSE THESE ARE NON-PAID POSITIONS THAT,
[00:30:02]
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF? UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR 37 YEARS MY ENTIRE LIFE.UM, AND, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE THROUGH AND THROUGH.
SO LIKE I SAID, NO PLAN ON GOING NOWHERE.
WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR COMING, FOR BEING A PART OF US, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE A PRETTY LAID BACK GROUP, BUT EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION BRINGS THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR, UH, WHAT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR, WHERE THEY LIVE.
WE'RE LAY PEOPLE, BUT WE KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE LIVE AND WHAT, WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
SO DEFINITELY WE THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE A PART OF US AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT GRAND PRAIRIE CONTINUES TO BE A WONDERFUL PLACE.
SO, UH, YOU HAVE ANYTHING OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NOT EXECUTIVE? WE HAVE, UM, WE DID THE AGENDA REVIEW.
WE ALSO HAVE A PRAIRIE RIDGE UPDATE, OR WE'RE DOING, UH, IF Y'ALL AREN'T, SOME OF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, WE HAVE A, A FAIRLY LARGE ETJ DEVELOPMENT CALLED PRAIRIE RIDGE.
THEY HAVE PURCHASED APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 5,000 ACRES DOWN THERE SOUTH OF 2 87.
UM, AND WE'RE BEEN WORK, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
UH, WE'VE GOTTEN TO A PRETTY GOOD POINT WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE SOME INPUT FROM PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A JOINT SESSION WITH BOTH WARDS, UH, APRIL 19TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM THAT WILL BE FORWARDED OUT TO YOU GUYS.
UH, SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU ADVANCED NOTICE.
AND SO THE, THE, THE CONSULTANTS AND PROVIDENCE WHO ARE THE LANDOWNERS ARE VERY, UH, EXCITED TO HEAR SOME INPUT ON WHAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED SO FAR.
IS THAT SOUTH GATE OR IT'S THE SOUTH GATE AREA, YES.
JOINT SESSION BE, THAT WILL BE, RIGHT NOW IT'S AT THE EPIC.
I WAS BY THERE LAST WEEK ON 2 87 GOING TO, UH, CLEVELAND.
UH, THAT'S AND MANSFIELD'S GROWING TOWARDS IT THIS WAY AND MM-HMM
AND THEN, UH, MID VOLTAGE GOING TOWARDS IT ANOTHER WAY.
UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MAKING GRAND PRIX EVEN LONGER AND LEANER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.
AS FAR AS GOING NORTH TO SOUTH ON THAT.
AND I LIKE THE T TOPOGRAPHY OF IT.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF, UH, LITTLE HILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AROUND HERE.
THAT'D BE SOME REALLY NICE HOMES OUT THERE.
IS THAT WHERE PUTTING THAT THEY'RE PUTTING A CHARTER SCHOOL OUT THERE.
IS THERE A CHARTER SCHOOL OUT THAT WAY? NORTH OF 2 87, THERE'S A ILT SCHOOL THAT'S GOING IN OFF OF, UH, DAVIS ROAD.
BUT THIS IS GONNA BE SOUTH OF THERE.
THAT WHOLE AREA IS CALLED SOUTH GATE.
WE'VE TITLED AT SOUTH SOUTH GATE.
THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE WEST OF THE ILT SCHOOL CALLED, UH, LAKE SONG, WHICH IS OWNED BY HUFFINES.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL.
SO, BUT WE'RE FOCUSED ON PRAIRIE RIDGE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR WHATNOT FOR LAKE SONG DOWN THE LINE.
A QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, IS THAT, THAT'S DURING THE WEEK, THAT APRIL 19TH DATE? YES.
SO WHOEVER CAN MAKE IT, BASICALLY YES.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON FOLKS ON THEIR JOBS AND WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
BUT YOU CAN GIVE US, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GIVING YOU HEADS UP NOW.
I'M RETIRED NOW, SO I CAN I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
I THINK, UM, WELL, MEETING IS ADJOURN.
AND THE, UM, NEXT SESSION WILL START AT SIX 30.
I, UH, Y'ALL READY? Y'ALL READY TO ROLL? OKAY.
[Call to Order]
TO THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 13TH, 2023.I'M CHERYL SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HEREBY CALL BACK TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH.
ALL MEETINGS ARE VIDEO RECORDED.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN UNLESS PROPER APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS A PRINTED AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE ROUTINE ITEMS WHICH CAN ALL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE A MOTION TO INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDER AN ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT AGENDA.
[00:35:01]
THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO SPEAK ON, IN, ON AN ITEM OR NOTE YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WITHOUT SPEAKING, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD.THESE CARDS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTER AND SHOULD BE TURNED IN AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS TO CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME, YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, HERE.
HERE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR QUENTIN, PETE AND FRANK GONZALEZ.
AND NOW, UM, COMMISSIONER JULIA PEREZ WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.
AND AFTER THAT, I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT.
AS WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, HELP US ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.
GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP, AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY.
FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE, LORD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS, OUR VISITORS, AND OUR BUSINESSES.
CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL WE DO HERE TODAY IS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU AND FOR THE SERVICE OF HUMANITY.
WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.
I TO READ THIS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL OF WHETHER DEED AND JUSTICE OR WRONG HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL GOT AROUND HERE WRONG.
I THINK
THE STAFF WILL PRESENT FIRST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.
FOLLOWING A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY STAFF, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FILLS OUT A SPEAKER CARD WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME MAY BE ALLOWED THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE SPEAKING.
SPEAKERS SHOULD GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH WHO YOU REPRESENT.
IF APPLICABLE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SPEAK UNDER THE HEADING OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PRESENTATION OF EACH ITEM AT THIS TIME.
CITIZENS MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVING THE PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA.MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023 PZ MEETING AND ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE, UH, PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HANDS PLEASE.
IT JUST ARRIVED, OUR COMMISSIONER AT 6:33 PM THANK YOU CLINTON.
[7. PLT-23-01-0009 - Final Plat - GSW Logistics Addition, Lots 1 and 2, Block 1 (City Council District 1). Final Plat creating two non-residential lots on 23.4271 acres. Tract 2B, 2B3, and 2B02, William Thompson Survey, Abstract No. 1558, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned Light Industrial, and addressed as 2650 S Great Southwest Pkwy and 2400 Arkansas Ln]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A FINAL PLOT FOR GREAT SOUTHWEST LOGISTICS EDITION.UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CREATE TWO LOTS AND ABOUT 23 ACRES.
UH, THE REASON IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS IT DOES REQUIRE VARIANCE TO, UH, SECTION 12 POINT 17.3 BECAUSE THE SECOND LOT DOES NOT HAVE STREET FRONTAGE, AND THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A PRIVATE MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL GIVE THE SECOND LOT ACCESS IF IT IS EVER DEVELOPED.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN A VARIANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL TO THE REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 12 POINT, 17.3 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE LOT FACE THE STREET, AND THEY MUST OBTAIN THAT VARIANCE PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE FINAL PLAT FOR SIGNATURES IN FILING IT WITH THE COUNTY.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR? I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT WE THOROUGH ON.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, SPEAKER CARDS?
[00:40:01]
OKAY.DYLAN AND DME IS PRESENT AND IN SUPPORT, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? UM, THANK YOU MADAM, MADAM CHAIR.
IF THERE'S NO MORE, UH, COMMENTS OR SPEAKERS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SEVEN ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLT 23 0 1 0 0 0 9.
THE FINAL PLAT FOR GREAT SOUTHWEST LOGISTICS POSITION WITH THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, D-C-D-R-C RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.
[8. ZON-23-01-0005 - Zoning Change – Bravo Residential (City Council District 6). Zoning Change from Agricultural District to Single Family-Five Residential District on 0.42 acres. Tract 76, Matthew Rd MH EST, Thomas J Tone Survey, Abstract 1460, Page 225, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Agriculture District and addressed as 1306 Ranch Road]
ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A ZONING CHANGE LOCATED AT 1306 RANCH ROAD.THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURE TO SINGLE FAMILY FIVE DISTRICT, AND THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AND THE LOT IS 0.42 ACRES, AND IT'S PART OF THE MATTHEW ROAD MOBILE HOME PARK.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE AN IMAGE SHOWING THE SURROUNDING ZONING.
UH, THE GREEN DESIGNATES THE AGRICULTURE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE YELLOW, UH, ARE SEVEN LOTS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AS ZONING CHANGE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TONIGHT.
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1968 BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, AND WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WHERE IT HAD THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF AGRICULTURE.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED SEVEN ZONING CHANGES FROM AG TO SINGLE FAMILY.
TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO CONSTRUCT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, THEY WILL NEED TO PROVIDE A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEPARTMENT.
THE COMMUNITY PROVIDES WATER THROUGH A PRIVATE WATER DISTRICT.
IT IS NOT WATER THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND IT'S MONITORED BY TCEQ.
THE ACCESS TO THE LOT IS OFF OF RANCH ROAD, AND THE INTERNAL ROADS TO THIS COMMUNITY ARE MAINTAINED AT A MINIMUM MINIMAL LEVEL, UM, BY THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE PRIVATE STREETS, SO THERE'S A LACK OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA TO ADEQUATELY SERVICE NEW HOMES, ALONG WITH BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER.
STAFF'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM INTEGRITY OF THE CURRENT WATER SYSTEM SERVING THE PARK.
ADDITIONALLY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ENCOUNTERED INSTANCES OF DIFFICULTY ACCESSING PROPERTIES WHEN RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY CALLS DURING EXTREME WEATHER.
NOTING ALL OF THIS, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DOES NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE ZONING REQUEST DUE TO LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE ZONING CHANGE BE APPROVED, CITY OR STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT AND FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY PRIOR TO THE CITY ISSUING ANY BUILDING PERMITS.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I THINK THIS ONE WE, WE DISCUSSED AS WELL.
UM, THE CONCERN THAT I ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT, UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE REQUIRING THEM TO DO AND STILL DO THAT, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD OPPOSE IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME AND MY DISCUSSION.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAD ONE SPEAKER CARD, BUT IT WAS, UH, JUST YOU HAD, WE HAD ONE SPEAKER CARD THEY DIDN'T WANT WEREN'T GONNA SPEAK UNLESS WE, WE HAD A QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PERSON THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE PRIOR CASE? OH, THAT WAS THE PRIOR CASE.
WELL, IT ACTUALLY HOLDS TRUE FOR THIS ONE TOO.
JUAN AND MARTHA BRAVO ARE HERE IN SUPPORT, BUT ONLY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THEM SOME QUESTIONS? WE, WE CAN BRING THEM UP.
DISCUSSION JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
OKAY, TIFFANY, WELL, CAN YOU, WE HAVE THE BRAVOS COME UP, ARE THEY? YES.
CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP? IF WE CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION? SORRY, I'M SO SORRY TO CONFUSION.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UM, MY NAME IS JUAN BRAVO.
AND THE ADDRESS, IT'S, UH, I FORGOT IT, IT'S 13 OLD SIX RANCH ROAD.
SO BE YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
OH, MY CURRENT ADDRESS? MM-HMM
IS, UH, 13, UM, 1613 WA STREET.
AND YOU'RE THE ONE WANTING TO, UH, HAVE, MAKE THIS, UH, YOU'RE MAKING THIS APPLICATION, CORRECT? YES.
AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER COKA HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION IN ENGLISH AND THEN IN SPANISH JUST TO, UH, MAKE SURE YOU, UH, YOUR WIFE ALSO.
[00:45:01]
QUESTION, THE ZONING CHANGE, UM, AS WE HEARD, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IS MISSING, THE ROADS AND, UM, THE SAFETY OF, YOU KNOW, UH, THE AMBULANCE OR THE FIRES TO BE ABLE TO COME.SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, UH, ABOUT APPROVING THE, THE, THE ZONING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE, UH, BASICALLY OUR QUESTION IS, BECAUSE IT'S, IF, IF WE HAPPEN TO DENY IT IS BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INFRAS, ABOUT THE ROAD AND MM-HMM
UH, AND I GUESS, UH, ALSO, UH, IN CASE THE APPLICANT WANTS, IF WE SAY NO, THE APPLICANT CAN ALWAYS GO TO CITY COUNCIL WHO'S THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS, BASICALLY CITY COUNCIL MAKES A FINAL, THE FINAL THE DECISION ANYWAY.
THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS OVERRIDE US CITY COUNCIL.
THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DO YOU MIND IN INTERPRETING FOR COMMISSIONER COLEMAN? I THINK HE'S GONNA SAY SOMETHING.
I'M SURE HE IS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR STAFF, UH, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE HAS TO DO AND, UH, I THINK HE KNOWS THAT HE HAS TO COMPLY WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND HE, I I'M SURE HE REALIZES THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS AND WHERE IT IS.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASK HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE STAFF IS WORKING WITH HIM, HAD A CHANCE TO ALSO, BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS COSTING HIM TO DO THE PLATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS, BUT HE'LL STILL BE SERVED BY THE POLICE FIRE AMBULANCE.
SO I, I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF NOTED THAT THERE'LL BE HARD FOR THEM TO ACCESS, BUT HE'LL STILL BE SERVED.
THAT PROPERTY IS STILL SERVED BY, BY THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UH, SEEM YOU'LL BE SERVED BY THE POLICE AND FIRE.
UH, IT'S JUST THE ROAD IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.
I GUESS COMMISSIONER BOTTOM LINE IS JUST THAT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK COMMISSIONER PETE HAS A, YOU HAVE A QUESTION NOW? DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO.
WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO HAVE, HAVE A HOME IN, IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? ANY MORE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? JOHN? JOHN? NO, I THINK COMMISSIONER, THIS IS IN COMMISSIONER COCO'S, UH, DISTRICT.
DO YOU WANT TO, OR DO YOU WANT JOHN TO? SO IT'S, UH, THE DRC DOES NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE ZONING REQUESTS DUE TO THE LACK OF SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.
UH, BUT ONLY IF WE SAID THAT THE ZONING CAN BE APPROVED, THEN THEY WOULD, UH, GO ON WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
COMMISSIONER, UH, FOR FOR THE RECORD, IT, IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS LIKE THEIR, I DON'T KNOW, SEVENTH OR EIGHTH TIME THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS.
AND SO, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE UP TO 98, UH, UH, UNITS.
SO THERE, THERE ARE ONLY A, A FEW UNITS LEFT.
SO THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A HISTORY THERE AND THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND I THINK IT'S OKAY, IN MY OPINION, AS LONG AS HE'S AWARE OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S GONNA HAVE TO DO.
AND HE'S BEEN TOLD THAT BY DRC AND, AND BY YOU AND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS LONG AS HE COMPLIES WITH EVERYTHING THAT, UM, DRC SAYS.
I DON'T SEE WHY NOT, BUT IT'S KIND OF YOUR CALL WHAT MOTION YOU DECIDE TO MAKE, WHICH IS ONLY TO, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE PLATINUM FILING IT FOR THE COUNTY, WHICH IS NOT A WHOLE LOT.
HE JUST HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
CAN I GET A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE WITH THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS PER DRC RECOMMENDATION PER DRC UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT BY COMMISSIONER COCA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AS PER DRC.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS.
[9. SUP-23-02-0004 - Specific Use Permit - AJ's Sports (City Council District 1). Specific Use Permit for Amusement Services (Indoor) to allow an indoor cornhole facility. Lots 4-7, Block 103, Dalworth Park Addition, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned Commercial, and addressed as 1825 Galveston St]
ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AT 1825 GALVESTON STREET.AND THE REQUEST IS FOR AN SGP FOR AMUSEMENT SERVICES INDOORS TO
[00:50:01]
ALLOW AN INDOOR CORN HOLE FACILITY.IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL, AND AGAIN, THE ADDRESS IS 1825 GALVESTON STREET.
UH, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, I DID LOOK UP THE LOCATION OF THAT OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED, AND IT IS, UH, THIS, UH, PARCEL RIGHT HERE ON SAN ANTONIO STREET.
SO THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THEIR FLOOR PLAN IS ON THE SCREEN.
IT'S AN INDOOR CORNHOLE FACILITY, AND THEY HAVE 19 COURTS, BYOB IS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS.
THEY DO HAVE SOME PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING FOR THIS, UH, FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDED, UH, VIA A PARKING AGREEMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THEIR PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE SUNDAY, 1:00 PM TO 10:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 5:00 PM TO 11:00 PM FRIDAY, 12:00 PM TO 12:00 AM AND THEN SATURDAY, 12:00 AM TO, UH, 1:00 AM I THINK BELIEVE THAT'S 12:00 PM.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND THAT THE EIGHT LINE GAMING MACHINE SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
AND THIS IS NOT PART OF THEIR PROPOSED OPERATIONS, BUT, UH, STAFF DID WANT TO ADD THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN THE EXISTING PARKING AGREEMENT.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER MADDEN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR OR HAS IMMEDIATELY IN THE PAST? SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY THERE DOING THIS? YES.
A PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE, UH, PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THEIR OPERATIONS.
UH, AND THEN THIS PROPOSED USER IS LEASING A PORTION OF THAT BUILDING.
AND, AND WHAT'S THE PROPERTY ZONED? CURRENTLY? IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, COMMERCIAL.
UM, WHERE ON HERE IS THE PARKING AGREEMENT? SO, OR IS IT VIEWABLE ON THIS MAP? THE PARKING IS IN THIS AREA IMMEDIATELY TOWARD THE, TOWARDS THE NORTH.
AND THAT'S THE SAME OWNER AS RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHERE THE YES, IT'S THE SAME OWNER.
AND IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SECURITY.
I SEE THAT THERE IS A-B-Y-O-B AND, UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, IS THAT A PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SECURITY ON SITE OR, I KNOW THIS IS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BUT THEM INDIVIDUALLY, SO THERE'S NOT A, A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO IF HE'S PLANNING ON HAVING ANY SECURITY, BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING BYOB, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE SECURITY WITH B-Y-O-B-I.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
YOU MAY BE GETTING CONFUSED WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENT CRITERIA.
BUT IF YOU JUST HAVE BYOB? NO, NO, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? RIGHT.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I SHALL, UH, MY NAME'S TONY SHOTWELL.
MY HOME IS AT 3 0 9 NORTHEAST 31ST STREET.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY MY HOME.
UM, THIS GUY IS, WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING, UH, RAYMOND VASQUEZ, AJ'S SPORTS.
THERE WAS A, A LITTLE, UM, KERFLUFFLE ABOUT WHAT WAS ALLOWED IN THE ZONING.
SO HE DOES HAVE A CO TO OPERATE.
UM, AS LONG AS HE GETS THIS SUP LATER, UM, IT'S A PRETTY NEAT LITTLE DEAL.
WHEN I WAS FIRST TOLD ABOUT IT, UH, I THOUGHT, THIS GUY'S NUTS.
UH, BUT HE'S FIXED IT UP REAL NICE.
THEY, UH, THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE INSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, UH, SAVANNAH HAS THEM OR NOT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS LIKE GOING TO A BOWLING ALLEY, BUT JUST, UH, YOU'RE NOT BOWLING.
YOU'RE THROWING THESE HEAVY BAGS.
I TOSSED THE ONE UP AND THEY'RE PRETTY HEAVY AT A HOLE IN THE GROUND OR A HOLE ON A PIECE OF STONE ON A BOARD.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS A PRETTY, PRETTY FANCY THING, THAT THERE'S A, EVEN DOING IT ON ESPN NOW.
YEAH, I DID SEE IT ON E ESP N AND HE WANTS THIS FACILITY TO BE A PLACE WHERE MAYBE ESPN WILL COME.
UH, HE'S TRYING TO MAKE THIS TO WHERE IT'S ONE OF THE TWO OR THREE BEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY FOR THIS GAME.
UM, THE, UM, THE BUILDING IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF WHERE
[00:55:01]
HE IS, GOT THE PARKING AGREEMENT.UH, IN THE PAST IT WAS USED, UH, PROBABLY AGAINST THE ZONING AS A, UH, MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND A, UH, UH, EMBROIDERY SHOP AND ENGRAVING FACILITY.
UM, IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT.
THE PROPERTY WHERE THE, UH, PARKING AGREEMENT IS, IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THIS, UH, THIS OPERATOR'S SPENT SOME MONEY AND, UH, WHETHER HE'LL EVER GET IT BACK OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW,
HE'S GOT A GOOD PARKING AGREEMENT.
UH, THERE IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANY, UH, OPPOSITION, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE ON THE MAP, IT CAME FROM PRETTY FAR AWAY.
AND IT'S COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, HEY, SOMEBODY COME HERE.
AND THE CLASSIC ANSWER IS, SOMEBODY COME HERE AND OPEN UP A LIQUOR STORE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO Y'ALL.
AND THIS GUY'S DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
UH, AS FAR AS THE BYOB IS, ONE DAY HE MAY TRY TO GO WITH, UH, ALCOHOL SALES, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BANANA.
YOU GOTTA HAVE A KITCHEN, AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE TO FIREPROOF IT AND ALL THAT.
SO IF HE CAN ROUND UP THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ONE DAY, HE MIGHT DO THAT.
BUT WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU TO DO THAT.
UM, BYB UH, AND SECURITY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT ON MAIN STREET THAT'S BYOB.
UH, I COULD UNDERSTAND SECURITY IN A PLACE WHERE WE EXPECT IT TO BE PARTIES, BUT THIS IS NOT A PARTY PLACE.
THE, UH, OWNER IS IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW HE'D OPERATE.
OTHERWISE, WE ARE, UH, WE'RE HOPING YOU'LL APPROVE IT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PEREZ, MR. SHOP.
WELL, APPROXIMATELY HOW, SINCE IT'S ALREADY OPEN, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTEND, UM, ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT? UH, RAYMOND? YES, SIR.
THIS IS THE OPERATOR AND OWNER, RAYMOND VASQUEZ.
UM, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I WOULD, BUT I KNOW THAT SATURDAY HE PROBABLY HAD 35, 40 PEOPLE IN THERE.
I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE HIS, UH, MAXIMUM OF OCCUPANCY LOAD 120.
THAT'S THE MAXIMUM, BUT HE'S NEVER GOING TO GET THAT.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? RAYMOND VASQUEZ.
8 1 3 EGYPTIAN WAY, GRAND PRAIRIE.
SO IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO LIKE 40 TO 50.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER, UM, UH, PLACES THAT ARE, HAVE DOING THE SAME, UH, BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO OPERATE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS? IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS? NO, THEY, I MEAN, THEY DO ALSO DO IT, BUT THEY DO IT LIKE OUT OF A DANCE HALL.
OR OUT OF A, LIKE A INDOOR SOCCER FACILITY.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER ONE THAT'S IN THE COUNTRY.
SO THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ONE.
UM, A COMMENT, UH, BASICALLY WE WENT ON A CRUISE AND CORN HOLE WAS SO POPULAR, I EVEN PARTICIPATED ON THE CHAMPIONSHIP.
YES, BECAUSE ES ESPN WOULD, OF COURSE.
WHY NOT? I MEAN, I'M, I WANT IT TO BE A, UH, I WANT IT TO BE A DESTINATION PLACE.
I FEEL LIKE THAT I'VE, I HAVE BUILT IT FOR THAT REASON AND IT'S LIKE VERY POPULAR AND IT'S, IT'S KINDA LIKE PICKLEBALL.
AND WE EVEN BEEN THINKING ABOUT DOING PICKLEBALL ONE DAY 'CAUSE IT'S SO POPULAR.
TO TAKE THE BOYS OUT AND MAYBE HAVE A PICKLE.
A FEW PICKLEBALL COURTS AS WELL.
ESPN TOURNAMENTS ARE VERY POPULAR ON ONE.
UH, WE ARE THE ONLY, UH, FACILITY THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE SAME COURT AS THEY DO ON ESPN.
MR. ROSKI, SINCE UM, YOU ARE OPEN, HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THE B-B-Y-L-B? NOTHING AT ALL.
MR. VASQUEZ, I, UH, APPLAUD YOUR ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS BUSINESS HERE.
HOWEVER, IF THE MAP MEMORY SERVES TO THE MAP THAT SAVANNAH SHOWED DIRECTLY SOUTH OF YOU ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OPERATING A BY BO FACILITY CONTIGUOUS TO RESIDENTIAL HOUSES AND POTENTIALLY ONE WITH A FULL LIQUOR LICENSE LATER IF YOU WERE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE THE CAPITAL.
THERE'S A, THERE'S MR. PCO, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S FENCING
[01:00:01]
BETWEEN HIS BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY BEHIND HIM.AND IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO GET TO THE PROPERTY BEHIND HIM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO COMPLETELY AROUND THE BLOCK TO COME BACK AROUND, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE NEXT DOOR TO HIM THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I DIDN'T SEE ONE NEXT DOOR, BUT MEMORY IS NOT PERFECT THERE.
UH, MATTER OF FACT, IT'S SOLD FOR ABOUT 400 GRAND.
UM, AND THERE'S MAYBE ANOTHER ONE NEXT TO HIM SOME OTHER DAY, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT EITHER.
UH, AND IN ORDER TO GET TO ANYBODY BEHIND HIM AGAIN, THEY WOULD'VE TO GO DOWN TWO HOUSES, TURN LEFT, AND THEN COME BACK BECAUSE IT'S FENCED UP BEHIND HIM.
COMMISSIONER, UH, CAN WE PULL IT UP SAVANNAH FOR COMMISSIONER FOR DURO TO LOOK AT AGAIN? UHUH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
WHERE'S THE ONE TO THE EAST OR WEST OF ITSELF? IT'S NOT ON THIS MAP.
YEAH, IT'S IN THE, IN THE, THERE'S ONLY TWO LOTS NEXT DOOR.
IT SHOWS THREE, BUT IT'S IN, IT'S COMPLETE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HIM.
IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS, IT'S JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BYOB, WHICH I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS LATER THAT I'LL BRING UP ABOUT, BUT POTENTIALLY GOING TO A FULL LIQUOR LICENSE IN WHAT IS IN ESSENCE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.
AND IF IT GOES FOR A FULL LIQUOR DEAL, IT'D HAVE TO COME BACK.
BUT THAT'S AN BIG EXPENSE AND HE'S, THAT WOULD BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, PROBABLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE NOISE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT LATE IN THE EVENING AND HOW CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDE RESIDENTIAL, BUT IF THEY'RE, IF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT, UH, UH, OPPOSED TO IT, I GUESS THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
MADAM CHAIRPERSON THERE, UH, THERE WAS A MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THAT BUSINESS THAT OPERATED IN NIGHT SHIFT AND IT DIDN'T GET COMPLAINTS.
SO THAT'S A LOT LOUDER THAN WHAT HE'S GONNA BE.
IT WAS A MACHINE SHOP AND I KNOW IT WELL, I, I WAS IN IT.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BRING THIS, YOU KNOW, KEEP THIS BUSINESS HERE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, THIS IS IN DISTRICT, UH, ONE.
WELL, I, I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SORRY.
SO WITH THIS SUP, HOW OFTEN DOES IT COME BACK UP FOR RENEWAL? TYPICALLY ONE YEAR, UNLESS THERE ARE VIOLATIONS AND STAFF FEELS THE NEED TO BRING IT FORWARD MORE FREQUENTLY.
AND THEN, THIS MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING HE HAS TO DO AS A BYB ESTA ESTABLISHMENT? THERE'S NO LICENSURE OR ANYTHING TO BE A-B-A-B-Y-O-B ESTABLISHMENT, IS THERE? NO.
UH, THIS IS, MIGHT EVEN SURPRISE THE APPLICANT, RAYMOND, YOU'D BE OKAY WITH ONE OR TWO OF YOUR EMPLOYEES GETTING TABC CERTIFIED.
SO HE WILL, HE WILL GET A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES TABC CERTIFIED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD RASHAD TO THAT? YES, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD'VE TO DO.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER DUCO, ARE YOU WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION? ARE YOU HAVE MORE DISCUSSION? I'M ON THE, I'M, UNFORTUNATELY I'M ON THE FENCE 'CAUSE I, I LIKE THE BUSINESS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SOUTH OF HIM.
THE PERSON WHO REGISTERED A COMPLAINT, THEY'RE NOT HERE RIGHT.
OR THEY DON'T WANT TO WISH TO SPEAK.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NINE.
THE, UH, SUP 2 3 0 2 0 0 0 4 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AJ SPORTS.
SECOND, HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NINE BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS.
WHAT IS THAT? EIGHT ONE? WAIT, DID, OKAY, SO YOU HAD THE VOTES FOR, DID YOU DO THE VOTES AGAINST? I, I, I'M SORRY.
UM, ON ITEM NINE, ALL THOSE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO, TO ITEM NINE, RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO THE ITEM PASSES EIGHT TO ONE.
IS IT? SEVEN? SEVEN, THANK YOU.
SEVEN TO ONE OVER COUNTING OR UNDER COUNTING.
[01:05:02]
ALRIGHT, THIS NEXT ITEM IS[10. SUP-23-02-0003 - Specific Use Permit/Site Plan - Restaurant/Retail at Belt Line and Marshall (City Council District 3). Specific Use Permit for a Restaurant with a Drive Through and a Site Plan for a 10,003 sq. ft. building on 2.867 acres. Lot 14 and a portion of Lot 12, Block A, Lakeland Heights, City of Grand Prairie, Dallas County, Texas, zoned PD-358, generally located on the southeast corner of S Belt Line Rd and E Marshall Dr, and addressed as 1850 S Belt Line Rd]
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND A SITE PLAN FOR LOCATION AT BELTLINE AND MARSHALL.UM, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.
ONE OF THE TENANTS WILL BE A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH, WHICH IS WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE SUP REQUIREMENT AND THE PROPERTY'S 2.867 ACRES.
AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT 3 58 FOR GENERAL RETAIL USES.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED OFF OF MARSHALL.
UH, THE PROPOSAL MEETS OUR DENSITY AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITH ONE EXCEPTION.
THE LANDSCAPE AND SCREENING PLAN MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS AND THEY WILL BE BE PROVIDING A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL, WHICH IS REQUIRED WHEN THE PROPERTY'S ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE SCREEN SHOWS THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS WITH STONE, BRICK AND STUCCO.
THEY'RE PROVIDING BUILDING ARTICULATION, WINDOWS, AWNINGS AND CANOPIES, AND THEN TWO TOWER ELEMENTS.
THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT.
THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 25 FEET TO ALLOW THE TWO TOWER ELEMENTS WITH A HEIGHT OF 36 FEET.
THE DEVELOP INTERVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A LITTED TRASH RECEPTACLE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? I JUST HAVE A COMMISSIONER.
SO THE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE HOUSE THAT IS IN EXISTENCE TO THE EAST IS UP ON A HILL AND THEN THE RAVINE GOES DOWN AND THEN IT GOES TO THE PROPERTY.
SO I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT.
THAT HOUSE IS THERE, THEIR BACK VIEW CURRENTLY IS THE CREEK AND THE POND, AND THEN IT WILL BE THE CREEK.
AND THEN THIS BUILDING WITH NOT ONLY A, A TALL BUILDING, BUT THEN A BUILDING THAT HAS TWO TURRETS THAT ARE IN EXCESS OF THE HEIGHT THAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED WILL BE BUILT.
THANKS FOR CON CONFIRMING THAT MM-HMM
UH, SAVANNAH, WE, YOU MENTIONED, I MEAN, IT WAS IN THE PACKET THAT THERE WERE FIVE, UH, LETTERS OPPOSING.
DID THEY SAY SPECIFICALLY? AND DID YOU EVER FIND ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AS TO WHY THERE WAS AN OPPOSITION? THE ONES IN THE PACKET JUST WROTE OPPOSITION.
STAFF DID RECEIVE A COUPLE MORE DURING THE DAY TODAY, WHICH, UM, UNABLE TO INCLUDE IN THE PACKET.
UH, CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OR OVERDEVELOPMENT IN GRAND PRAIRIE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA? UM, I THINK THOSE WERE THE, THE TWO MAIN ISSUES.
DO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS COMING? WHAT TYPE OF, WHAT RESTAURANT WOULD THAT STILL A QUESTION MARK? THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC USERS, UH, FOR STAFF, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S HERE AND THEY MIGHT HAVE AN UPDATE.
COMMISSIONER PEREZ, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR SAVANNAH AT THIS, AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU, SAVANNAH.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE SEVERAL.
JACOB SUMPTER WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THAT THE APPLICANT? I BELIEVE HE'S THE CASE REPRESENTATIVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY, I'M TRYING TO THINK.
DO YOU MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES, MA'AM.
JACOB SUMTER, FIVE 19 EAST BORDER STREET, ARLINGTON, TEXAS.
THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING GRAND PRAIRIE.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE WERE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH ANY OF THE RESIDENTS SINCE THEY WERE, WE HAD THE, UH, OPPOSITION LETTERS.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THE RESIDENT, UM, TO THE EAST.
UH, WE JUST GOT NOTIFIED OF THEIR OPPOSITION THROUGH THE PACKET THAT WE RECEIVED ON FRIDAY.
UH, BUT WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH, UH, REACHING OUT TO THEM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.
THAT WILL BE SOMETHING I WOULD, I WOULD DO.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM, UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THAT'LL DO IT.
THIS ISN'T MY DISTRICT AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS.
IT IS NICE TO SEE SOMETHING MODERN, NEW AND FRESH IN OUR DISTRICT.
TOMMY WILHOIT, UM, WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'VE BEEN UP THERE SEVERAL TIMES, SO
[01:10:01]
PROBABLY ALL KNOW ME, BUT NOWAND IS THIS GOING TO BE A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND STRIP CENTER AND THAT'S IT? UH, SIR, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, SAVANNAH, SHE, SHE SAID IN THE, AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING TO THE EAST.
WELL, WE WALK, GO AHEAD, RASHAD.
WELL, THE DOLLAR STORE IS TO THE SOUTH.
THERE IS A RESIDENCE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST ACROSS FROM THE RAVINE, THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE EAST MM-HMM
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE RES UH, RESTAURANT, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AS, AS OF YET, BUT THIS DOES HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH COMPONENT TO IT.
SO IT'S JUST A FAST FOOD PLACE.
WE, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF THOSE FAST FOOD PLACES.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A RESTAURANT.
IT COULD HAVE A SIT DOWN COMPONENT TO IT.
THAT'D BE SOMETHING TO NEED TO KNOW.
IF IT'S A, A RESTAURANT THAT REQUIRES, UH, WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY ALLOWING FOR IT TO COME THROUGH WITH THE SUP.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, THE RESTAURANTS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
IN, UH, THE RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE EXACTLY.
SO Y'ALL JUST GOING TO, OKAY, I'M PUTTING IN A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.
WE GOT ONE CADDY FROM IT ALREADY.
STRIP CENTER OVER THERE, THE RESTAURANT.
WELL, SIR, THE THING OF IT IS, IT'S, IT'S ZONED AS SUCH.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE, UH, GUIDELINES, WE CANNOT PREVENT THEM FROM COMING.
WON'T BE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY BUYING THAT AND MAKING THAT A PARK FOR THAT AREA.
I I AM NOT ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SIR.
SO WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, THAT'S NOT ON OUR PAY GRADE.
AND YOU CAN PASS THAT INFORMATION ON.
THAT, THAT POND HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.
AND THERE'S WATER IN ALL THE TIME.
WELL, THE CO THE CONCERN IS, SIR, THERE WERE ONLY, UH, A FEW LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
AND SO GENERALLY, IF, IF THERE WERE, IF THE THE COMMUNITY WERE BEHIND YOU WITH THAT, THEY WOULD'VE, THEY COULD'VE COME TO SUPPORT YOU ON THAT.
IT WOULD'VE MADE A BIGGER EFFORT.
BUT IT DOESN'T, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WEIGH AS WELL, IS THE FACT THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED? HOW MANY ARE FOUR? AND IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH, UH, OPPOSITION TO, TO WARRANT NOT APPROVING IT.
IF, IF THE COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE I GOT, I ONLY HAVE ONE VOTE, EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION HAS A DUTY TO VOTE THEIR CONSCIOUS AND VOTE THE WAY THEY SEE FIT.
YOU KNOW, SO I CAN'T, THEY HAVE TO FILL THAT POND IN.
THAT MEANS WHATEVER THE BUILDER'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE.
PIERS, UH, KAT CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT RASHA.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE PIERS, IT'LL SINK.
I'M CERTAIN AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF YEAH.
INFIELD THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT BUILDING IS, UH, SUBSTANTIAL.
SO OUR CIVIL REVIEW TEAM, OUR ENGINEERING STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT WHEN THEY ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL STAGES, SIR, AND THANK YOU.
I, I MAY, I'M JUST TELLING YOU YES, SIR.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AND WHAT APPARENTLY IS GOING IN IS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT.
WELL, SIR, IT IS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU AND YOU'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND YES.
AND SO YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND WE WANT YOU TO COME EVERY TIME THAT YOU HAVE A CONCERN, ALRIGHT? BECAUSE YOUR CONCERNS ARE VALID AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER AND EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
AND THEY SHOULD, AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THEY SHOULD COME TO YOU AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S COME, COME UP, AND THEN YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU'LL BE, BE THERE TOGETHER SIDE BY SIDE.
WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? SEVERAL.
CHRIS SMITH WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
MR. SMITH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M AT 1826 SHERIFF DRIVE, UH, JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM MR. WILL HOY, I GUESS.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS AND THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL OPPOSITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT ALL HERE.
UM, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS A REQUEST FOR LIQUOR SALES? UM, I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT, THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION.
I THOUGHT I'D READ THAT SOMEWHERE.
MAYBE THAT WAS A PREVIOUS, NO, NOT THIS ONE.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF MAJOR CONCERNS.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS FILLING IN THE POND.
UM, AND THEN THE DRAINAGE FROM BEING
[01:15:01]
CONCRETED OVER.UH, THERE'S THREE 18 FOOT DRAINAGE AREAS THAT ARE TO EXIT INTO THE CREEK, WHICH IS BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF A BIG THING.
IF, IF THERE'S WATER THAT'S FILLING A POND AND THEN YOU CONCRETE IT OVER, ALL OF THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
IT, IT'S NOT GOING IN THE POND ANYMORE.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WATER.
WELL, SIR, I WOULD LIKE FOR RASHARD TO RESPOND.
WHAT ABOUT THE, WAS THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY OR IS IT TOO EARLY YET? IT'S IN THE EARLY STAGES AND BEFORE THEY CONSTRUCT, THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA INCREASE FLOW UPSTREAM OR DOWNSTREAM AND ANY DISPLACED WATER, UM, THEY EITHER HAVE TO DO SOME UNDERGROUND DETENTION OR AT GREAT DETENTION.
UH, I DON'T WANT, I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, BUT, UM, THAT'S ALL REVIEWED.
I THINK PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS PROPERTY IS SET VACANT FOR SO LONG IS BECAUSE OF THIS, AND IT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIAL COST, BUT THIS PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
AND YOU KNOW, AS A LAYMAN, IT LOOKS SOMEWHAT UNDEVELOPABLE TO ME, BUT THERE IS NO ROOM ON THE PROPERTY IF THEY CONCRETE IN A PARKING LOT AND A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THERE'S NO ROOM FOR A REMEDIATION OF UNDERGROUND WATER.
AND WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, UM, ENGINEERING STAFF HERE WHO, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, HE CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR WE CAN BRING THEM UP FOR, UH, RYAN HAROLD, WHO'S IN THE BACK.
SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS, IT'S JUST GOOD TO TO HEAR FROM YOU STAND.
SO I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS TRUE THAT THIS LOT HAS SAT VACANT FOR A WHILE BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS.
UM, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH MMA IS THE ENGINEERING CIVIL ENGINEER THAT, UH, JACOB WORKS FOR.
AND, UH, OUR, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN ALL ALONG HAS BEEN JUST FILLING THE POND AND NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT.
IT'S THE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR WHEN THERE'S A BIG STORM EVENT.
THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE DESIGN STORM IS A HUNDRED YEAR, SO WE, WE LOOK AT ALL THE WAY UP TO A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT, AND WE DON'T ALLOW FOR ANY DECREASE IN VALLEY STORAGE.
AND, UH, EMMETT EMMETT CREEK, THAT'S THE BRANCH THAT RUNS TO THE MAIN CHANNEL.
UM, IT DOES OVER TOP IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR AND GO INTO THAT POND.
BUT, UH, JACOB SUMTER, HE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE, THE BEST PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THE HYDRAULICS OF THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THEY, THEY'RE WORKING ON STUDYING THAT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO, NO LOSS OF VALLEY STORAGE, NO INCREASE IN WATER SURFACE ELEVATION.
AND, UH, WE, WE STILL HAVE YET TO REVIEW THAT FINAL STUDY, SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
BUT I JUST KNOW THAT THE, THE STAFF IS VERY AWARE OF THIS, UM, THIS LOCATION THERE, UH, THERE WAS A TIME THAT ACTUALLY WAS FILLED IN ILLEGALLY AND THEY HAD TO EXCAVATE IT BACK OUT BECAUSE OF THAT.
VALLEY STORAGE IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION, FOR YOUR EXPERTISE.
RASHARD, DO YOU NEED TO ADD TO THAT? NO, HE USES THE BIG WORD.
WELL, WE REALLY ARE, UH, GLAD THAT Y'ALL ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE AREA AND IT IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO STAY AS IS OR BETTER.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THE, THE PLAN, THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENT DRC, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THEY MAKE SURE THEY HAVE EXPERTS FROM EVERY, UH, UH, AREA TO COME IN AND REVIEW EVERYTHING THOROUGHLY.
SO BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE, IT, THEY, THEY'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.
AND, AND WE'RE JUST A, UH, LAY BOARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL STILL HAS TO MAKE THAT FINAL CALL WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN, UM, DISCUSSED.
SO, UM, POINT OUT, WE MAY WANNA GIVE IT A LITTLE, GIVE IT A LITTLE, GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SEE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PART.
JUST FOR THEM TO GET STARTED ON, ON LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.
UM, THEY'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T RESOLVED IT.
AS A HOMEOWNER, THAT'S A KIND OF A ISSUE.
WE'LL LET, WE'LL LET RASHAD RESPOND TO THAT.
SO YES, A POINT WON'T, HE WILL LET HIM RESPOND TO THAT.
IT WON'T BE CONSTRUCTED IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
SO IF ALL THE CONCERNS THAT RYAN JUST MENTIONED AREN'T ADDRESSED, IT WON'T MOVE FORWARD.
THEY CAN CHANGE THE ZONING, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO GET THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE CIVIL PLANS WILL BE FULLY REVIEWED.
[01:20:01]
OKAY.UM, MY LAST CONCERN IS, UM, TRAFFIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS FROM BELTLINE ROAD.
THEY'RE GONNA PUT ACCESS FROM MARSHALL STREET.
THE ACCESS TO THE PARKING LOT WILL LITERALLY BE ABUTTING MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD.
UM, THE DRIVE THROUGH IS FOR THE COFFEE SHOP.
APPARENTLY THERE APPEARS TO BE A COFFEE SHOP ON THE ELEVATION AND THE DRIVE THROUGH LOOKS TO HOLD SIX, MAYBE EIGHT CARS.
UM, I'M REMINDED OF THE STARBUCKS ON I 30 AND BELTLINE THAT CONSISTENTLY JAMS TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T GET ACROSS INDEN OUT OF THE STARBUCKS.
UH, I SEE THAT AS KIND OF AN ISSUE.
UM, YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF OF BELT LINE, BUT YOU'VE JUST PUT IT ONTO, UH, MARSHALL STREET, WHICH IS BASICALLY MY FRONT YARD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY OTHER MAJOR CONCERN.
DOES STAFF HAVE ANY OTHER RESPONSE TO THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO? WELL, I WOULD ONLY SAY THAT THIS SIDE IS PRETTY NARROW, UM, IN ITS DEPTH.
BELTLINE IN THIS LOCATION IS A TECH STOP FACILITY, SO ANY DRIVEWAY WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE TO PUT ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD MEET ANY OF THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT WOULD BE A BIT OF A SAFETY HAZARD.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON THERE'S ONLY THE ONE DRIVEWAY.
UH, I CAN LET RASHAD ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE DRIVE THROUGH DESIGN.
FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, THE DRIVE THROUGH DESIGN MEETS THE STANDARD FROM THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE.
OF COURSE Y'ALL CAN ASK FOR ADDITIONAL SPACES, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE POTENTIAL END USER YET.
UM, SO I, I'LL I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO PNZ ON THAT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE STARBUCKS GOT APPROVED WITH THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ALLOWED AS WELL, AND I THINK ANY OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH BELT LINE AND 30.
IT'S PEOPLE CUTTING ACROSS IN FRONT OF ONCOMING VEHICLES THAT ARE SHIELDED BY OTHER VEHICLES.
WELL, WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE VALID.
UH, MICHELLE, COMMISSIONER MADDEN, SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO.
I'M LOOKING AT THE DRIVE THROUGH AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT, UM, ALSO FOR THEM TO GET IN AND THEN GET OUT.
BUT I DO NOTICE THAT ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DESIGNED IT TO WHERE IT MIGHT TIE INTO THE, TO THE DR TO THE PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR DOOR.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S DRAWN THAT WAY NEAR WHERE THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS.
SO THAT MAY BE SOME ACCESS ULTIMATELY.
OH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT BY THE, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.
THE LOT KIND OF FUNNELS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S DEAD ENDING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT ALSO MIGHT OH NO, IT'S TOO FAR AWAY.
I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS GONNA TIE IN SO IT WOULD'VE RELIEVED SOME OF THAT ACCESS.
BY THE WAY, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS RIGHT NEAR THE DRAINAGE INTO THE CREEK.
THEY'RE LOCATED ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER.
THAT'S ANOTHER FINE POINT AT, AT THIS POINT, SIR, WE'RE JUST AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES, SO I I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU REALLY GIVE US A CHANCE.
OH, I, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK NOTHING IS GONNA GO PAST THE DIRECTOR OVER HERE,
AND SO I, I I THINK THAT WE JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ZONED THAT WAY AND THEY HAVE THE OP THE, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IF THEY FOLLOW ALL OF THE, THE GUIDELINES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROGRESS IN A SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AREA.
YOU KNOW, AND A BIG DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL ACTUALLY.
WELL, HOPEFULLY, BUT I WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE 36 FOOT TOWERS FROM MY FRONT YARD OVER MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE,
SO WE COULD, AGAIN, I, I THINK ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE VALID AND THEN WE'LL TAKE, ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, BY THE APPLICANT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SIR? CAN YOU COME UP FOR A MINUTE AND JUST SPEAK JUST TO, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS, WHICH THEY HAVE VALID CONCERNS? I HAVE IT ON THE BACK JUST, JUST FOR A MINUTE.
UM, SO TAKING NOTES DILIGENTLY, UM, TYPE OF RESTAURANT.
[01:25:01]
AND THE, THE RESTAURANT WILL BE HERS.WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION THAT DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, BUT SHE HAD, 'CAUSE IT'S HER RESTAURANT, SHE HAD A DESIRE TO DO, UM, A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY, BUT THEN ALSO WORKING WITH RYAN'S GROUP OF DEVELOPING A FLOOD STUDY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE.
'CAUSE I MEAN, IT IS A FLOODPLAIN NEXT TO US.
SO THE SITE IS VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DEFINE A DEVELOPABLE AREA, MEETING ALL THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS MM-HMM
IN REGARDS TO VALLEY STORAGE AND NOT BUILDING IN A FLOODPLAIN, UM, PROVIDING EROSION, CLEAR ZONES.
THERE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ELEMENTS THAT, SO THE MAIN THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE AWARE, YOU WORKING FOR, WE HAVE TO FIND A DEVELOPABLE AREA.
AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT THE SITE PLAN IS LAID OUT THE WAY IT IS.
IS ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO BE.
UM, NOW WE'RE BEFORE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE A FLOOD STUDY, WE HAVE ENGINEERING PLANS.
WE, WE CAN'T SUBMIT THOSE OR REALLY DON'T WANT TO UNTIL RIGHT.
I THINK WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CARDS LEFT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
YEAH, I CAN ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT ME TO, SO, OKAY.
I THANK YOU'VE SET HAD YOUR FIVE MINUTES? I, I THINK SO, YES.
OKAY, I'M GONNA GET THIS ONE WRONG, BUT JOSE ENO ZNO, UH, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HIS OPPOSITION.
AND THEN THE FINAL SPEAKER CARD IS WITH VY FAN AND VAN TRAN WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
COME ON UP, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT THE, UH, PROPERTY JUST EAST TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, JUST FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
NUMBER ONE IS, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS I HAVE AN UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW TO BELTLINE AND MARSHALL.
AND WITH A THREE STORY STRUCTURE, THAT VIEW, I MEAN, I WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THAT VIEW.
I'VE HAD THAT VIEW SINCE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE FOUR YEARS AGO.
UH, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE, UM, FLOODING, UH, REFERENCE TO THE POND.
'CAUSE MY HOUSE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S A SMALL CREEK, AND I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS AS IT IS WHEN IT RAINS.
UH, EVEN DURING LIKE NORMAL STORMS, I'M WORRIED ABOUT FLOODING BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS SOMEWHAT IN A, LIKE A DEPRESSION, SO WATER CONGREGATES AND AROUND MY HOUSE.
SO EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MY GUTTERS, ALL MY, UH, UH, ALL MY GUTTERS ARE FREE OF LEAVES TO PREVENT FLOODING TO MY HOUSE.
UM, NUMBER TWO IS THE TRAFFIC.
MY HOUSE IS ON MARSHALL NEXT TO BELTLINE.
UH, TRAFFIC IS BAD ENOUGH AS IT IS DURING RUSH HOUR AND DURING, WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION, IT'S HARD TO GET IN AND OUT.
WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC TO THE AREA THAT I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT WE COULD SUSTAIN THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, ANOTHER IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS BASICALLY THE ENTIRE, LOOKS LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE UP TO THE CREEK WHERE, WHICH ABUTS, WHICH ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.
SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT, AS I SAID BEFORE, UH, THE FLOODING, UH, ANY, UH, TYPE OF, UH, TRASH, ANY TYPE OF, LIKE A, A LOT OF TIMES I AM A POLICE OFFICER, SO I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN, UH, TO LOCATIONS WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, MISCHIEF PEOPLE DOING STUFF BEHIND BUSINESSES.
AND, UH, I'M AFRAID THAT THAT MIGHT SPILL OVER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WHETHER OR NOT THIS RESTAURANT SELLS ALCOHOL, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE THREE KIDS WHO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THE LAST THING I WANT IS BASICALLY, UH, HAVE MY KIDS, UH, NEAR A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, A STRONG POSSIBILITY WHERE THERE MAY BE AN INTOXICATED PERSON WHO USE THE LOCATION, WHETHER ON A VEHICLE OR ON FOOT.
UH, UM, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY WITH A THREE STORY STRUCTURE.
I'M AFRAID THAT IT WILL DECREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE I WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THE UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW TO MARSHALL AND BELT LINE.
AND, UH, I MEAN, WHO WANTS TO SEE A STRIP CENTER IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE? I DEFINITELY DO NOT, THAT'S NOT THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
IF I HAD KNOWN, THEN I WOULD'VE CONSIDERED ANOTHER LOCATION.
UH, AS WELL, LIKE WITH ANY BUSINESS, THERE'S
[01:30:01]
INCREASED NOISE DUE TO BUSINESS ACTIVITIES, INCREASED CLIENTELE, INCREASED TRAFFIC.AND, UM, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I, THE LAST THING I THINK WE NEED IS INCREASED TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA, UH, WITH, UH, I'M SURE IT'S A, UH, BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT THERE, UH, IT BRINGS IN MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREA.
AND I THINK WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT.
CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS? YES.
ARE YOU, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE NOT IN THE HOA, ARE YOU? NO.
SO, AND THAT THERE, THERE WEREN'T ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS? NOBODY Y'ALL GOT TOGETHER AS A GROUP? NOBODY.
THE, NO, THERE'S NO HA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND THE TITLE POLICY GENERALLY STATES THAT THE AREA, THIS AREA WAS, UH, A ZONE COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE, UH, UH, OF THAT I'M NOT SURE OF.
BUT YEAH, IF I HAD KNOWN THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A THREE STORY STRUCTURE MM-HMM
I MEAN, I THINK MY WIFE AND I WOULD'VE CONSIDERED ANOTHER LOCATION.
NOW THAT AFTER WE'VE HAD THE HOUSE FOR FOUR YEARS, ALL THAT'S GONNA CHANGE AND THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC.
I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE BUSINESS ITSELF IS BAD PER SE, BUT, UH, BUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, THE INCREASED, UH, CUSTOMERS, AN INCREASED RUNOFF AS OPPOSED TO THIS CUSTOMERS IN THE WATER, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF THAT PROPERTY.
UH, CAN WE, CAN STAFF SPEAK TO THIS TO HIS CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC OR THE ZONING? I THINK, UH, I THINK WE ALREADY SPOKE TO THE FLOODING WITH THE ENGINEER THAT THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON STUDIES ON THAT.
BUT JUST OVERALL JUST, WELL, THE, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED INVESTED FOR RETAIL.
SO IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THERE OR ANOTHER, IT'S GONNA BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE VARIANCES FOR THE MAX HEIGHT, I DO BELIEVE THE, UM, ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOWER THAN YOUR PROPERTY.
SO IT LIKELY WON'T BE AS SIGNIFICANT, UH, OF A BLOCKAGE OF YOUR VIEW, UH, TO BELTLINE, UH, CAN'T, NO HOLD ME TO THAT THOUGH.
BUT, UM, AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, I THINK BRETT HAS SPEAK, SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.
UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T WARRANT, UM, A TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, AND AT ONE POINT OF ACCESS WAS ONLY GRANTED ON, ON MARSHALL BECAUSE BELTLINE IS A TEXT CORRIDOR.
I THINK WE HAVE, COMMISSIONER PEREZ HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL.
IS YOUR HOME A TWO STORY HOME? YOUR HOUSE IS THAT BIG TWO, IT'S A STORY HOME, TWO STORY HOUSE BEHIND IT.
I'M, IT'S MY PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THAT LOCATION THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IS, HIS HOUSE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE TALLER THAN THE ACTUAL, I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE IT BECAUSE HIS HOUSE IS PRETTY TALL.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT, I THINK YOU MIGHT STILL HAVE SOME VIEW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND WE, WE DO LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, UH, FROM, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS? ANY CONCERNS? CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THIS? HAVE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT REAL QUICK.
UH, KIND WASH THIS AREA OVER THE YEARS.
MATTER OF FACT, I, I THREW A NEWSPAPER ROUTE DOWN THROUGH THERE MANY YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, THIS, THIS CORNER IS, IS A REALLY GREAT CORNER FOR, FOR RETAIL.
IT'D BE, IT'D BE A SHAME, UH, NOT TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.
UH, THE ENGINEERING TO GET THIS, THIS OUT OF, UH, UH, WHERE IT WOULDN'T PUT ANY MORE RUNOFF TO THE CREEK.
DISCHARGE TO THE CREEK, UH, THAT'S AN OBSTACLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AROUND AND I THINK THEY CAN, I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY'VE DONE, UH, IN NORTH GRAND PRAIRIE AROUND ME WITH OLD GRAVEL PITS AND HOW THEY FILLED THOSE IN.
UH, TRAMMELL CROW RIGHT NOW IS, IS FILLING IN ABOUT PROBABLY 80 ACRES RIGHT THERE NOW OFF OF WILDLIFE.
AND, UH, THE FIELD'S COMING IN FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
THEY MUST BE DIGGING SOMETHING DOWN THERE.
BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT BUYING A HOME AND, AND, UH, AND HAVING WHAT YOUR EXISTING VIEW IS.
BUT, AND IF, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU DO THAT, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A PIECE OF VACANT LAND AROUND YOU, YOU, YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW THE TYPE OF, UH, ZONING IT IS.
AND IF IT'S ZONE COMMERCIAL, THAT SHOULD BE FACTORED INTO WHAT YOU'RE, THE AREA YOU'RE TRYING TO BUY.
AS LONG AS THE ENGINEERING'S DONE PROPERLY, AND WHICH I THINK IT WILL BE DONE, UH, I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT RETAIL CORNER
[01:35:01]
FOR A BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.
WE VALUE YOUR OPINION SINCE YOU'VE LIVED IN GRAND PRAIRIE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND YOU'VE SEEN GRAND PRAIRIE CHANGE, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE, UH, COMMISSIONER PEEK? YES.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY I APPLAUD THE, UM, GENTLEMAN FOR EVEN TAKING ON THAT AS, UM, SOMEONE WHO, UH, DOES SOMEWHAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND, AND ASSISTS WITH CONSULTING.
THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO FILL THAT IN IS QUITE A LOT OF MONEY.
THAT'S VERY, VERY COSTLY, UM, FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
AND, UM, I, I KNOW THAT OUR, UM, THAT RASHAN AND THE DEPARTMENT AND THE REST OF THE ENGINEERS WOULD, WOULD DO THEIR BEST TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE AREA.
BUT I APPLAUD YOU FOR EVEN ATTEMPTING IT BECAUSE JUST FILLING THAT IN ALONE, UH, IS QUITE COSTLY.
AND, UM, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK WITH THAT.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.
WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT? TYPICALLY IT'S 25 FEET.
SO IT'S 11 FEET HIGHER THAN NORMAL WITH THE TURRETS.
THANK YOU ANY MORE? COMMISSIONER FEDARKO? I HAVE TWO THINGS.
UM, THE, UM, WELL, ONE'S JUST AN OBSERVATION 'CAUSE I, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT SURROUNDING RESIDENTS SAY, BUT I TEMPER THAT WITH STUFF LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN SAID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON WHO OWNS THIS LAND HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP THIS LAND AND IT'S ZONED A CERTAIN USAGE RIGHT NOW.
AND I DON'T WANT TO LOOK, HAVE A LOOK BACK AND SAY, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN OR LOOKED AT WHAT THE ADJOINING PARCELS WERE GONNA BE, BUT THAT PERSON WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT FOR PRODUCTIVE PURPOSES.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE MY OBSERVATION.
MY QUESTION, THOUGH NOW IS FOR THE APPLICANT, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT ARE THESE TURRETS JUST DECORATIVE? LIKE YOU'RE JUST BUILDING YES.
PREFACE, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT FIRST.
UM, SO THIS IS THE DESIGN THE ARCHITECT CAME UP WITH, WITH MY CLIENT.
SO IT'S PURELY JUST TRYING TO MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THE CITY HAS, BUT IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING IN THERE.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE DECORATIVE.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST TO DEFINE THE CORNER ELEMENTS TO GIVE IT A, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT APPEARANCE SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BOX LOOKING RETAIL BUILDING.
UH, COMMISSIONER PEREZ, YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, THERE'S A BUILDING A LOT LIKE THIS.
IF YOU GO DOWN COOPER STREET, THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT WITH US.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? CAN WE GET A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE END THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM, UH, 10 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SUP 23 DASH TWO DASH ZERO THREE WITH DRC.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 10 FROM COMMISSIONER PEREZ WITH THE, WITH THE VARIANCE PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND MOTION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE WHAT, SEVEN TO SEVEN? UH, FOUR.
ALSO, WE, UH, ALL THOSE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS MOTION.
[11. VCC-23-01-0001 - Unified Signage Plan - Victron at Lynn Creek Pkwy and SH 360 (City Council District 4). Unified Signage Plan for Victron. Tracts 5B2 and 6C2, Jerome C Lynn Survey, Abstract No. 972, City of Grand Prairie, Tarrant County, Texas, zoned PD-255A, within the SH 360 Corridor Overlay District, and generally located on the northeast corner of Lynn Creek/Mildred Walker Pkwy and SH 360]
ALL RIGHT.THIS NEXT ITEM IS A UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN OVER FOR DEVELOPMENT OVER AT 360 IN LEN CREEK.
UH, ANYTIME THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS REQUESTING VARIANCES FROM OUR SIGN ORDINANCE, UH, WE BRING IT THROUGH THE UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN REQUEST.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PD 2 55 A.
IT'S WITHIN OUR 360 CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND A SUP SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED FAIRLY RECENTLY FOR THIS LOCATION, FOR GAS STATION, CAR WASH AND RESTAURANT.
THE FIRST SIGN, UH, SIGN A IS REQUESTING VARIANCES TO THE MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT TO ALLOW A 55 FOOT TALL SIGN.
SO THE, UH, FIRST SIGN, SIGN, A FIRST VARIANCE IS TO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT.
UM, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO 25 FEET.
[01:40:01]
THEY'RE REQUESTING 55 FOOT.UM, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO THE SETBACKS.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING ABOUT 30 FEET.
UH, WE DO REQUIRE ONE FOOT IN SETBACK FOR EVERY ONE FOOT IN SIGNS THAT WOULD BE 55 FOOT SETBACK.
AND THEN THE THIRD VARIANCE IS FOR THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT, OR EXCUSE ME, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE AREA TO ALLOW 670 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS THEIR SECOND MULTI-TENANT MONUMENT SIGN, AND IT'S REQUIRING A VARIANCE TO THE SETBACK.
AGAIN, ONE FOOT FOR EVERY ONE FOOT IN HEIGHT, AND THEY'RE LESS THAN ONE FOOT OFF.
THE, THE PROPERTY LINE TO RECAP VARIANCES FOR THE HEIGHT FOR SIGN A, UH, SETBACKS VARIANCES FOR BOTH SIGN A AND SIGN B.
AND THEN THE MAXIMUM AREA VARIANCE FOR SIGN A.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, AND I THINK YOU SAID IN THE BOARD BRIEFING THAT WE'VE HAD THIS HEIGHT ISSUE ON OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
AND SO THAT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, UH, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE OF THIS HEIGHT.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, I BELIEVE IN 2019 WE REDID OUR SIGN, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND, AND DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT.
UH, PRIOR TO THAT, UH, THERE WAS A, A PERMITTED SIGN, UH, AT THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THIS HEIGHT.
UH, THAT WAS ALLOWED WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? THANK YOU.
SAVANNAH IS THE APPLICANT HERE.
WE HAVE NICK VASQUEZ WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I AM, UH, I RESIDE AT 1 0 5 YMCA DRIVE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
I'M ACTUALLY THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND GENERALLY I JUST WANNA BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT POP UP RELATED TO THE SIGNS COMMISSIONERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MADDEN.
SO I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH AND I'M LOOKING AT THE HIGHWAY VIEW AND EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, 55 FEET, I, THAT SEEMS WERE ANY OTHER HEIGHTS EX LIKE, CONSIDERED OR, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE A BEACON FROM LIKE, FOREVER AND MILES AWAY.
AND I'M LOOKING, AND I KNOW THERE'S A SHOPPING CENTER NORTH OF THERE THAT HAS, UM, HAS SIGNAGE, BUT IT'S QUITE A WAYS AWAY.
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE NEARBY.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE WHY, WHY SO TALL? YES, MA'AM.
UH, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, UH, ELEVATION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT? UH, AND WE ARE GONNA BE SITTING KIND OF IN A HOLE A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHEN WE FINISH.
IT DROPS OFF PRETTY GOOD BACK BEHIND THERE, WHICH WE'LL WE'LL BE DEVELOPING.
UH, SO IN ORDER TO, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT SIGNAGE UP, THAT'S VISIBLE ENOUGH MM-HMM
IT NEEDS TO CARRY ALL OF THE, THE, UH, OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE DOING IN THERE.
WE NEED THAT HEIGHT AND ELEVATION.
UH, ONE FOR THE TRAFFIC AND TWO FOR VISIBILITY.
IF WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, A 25 FOOT SIGN THERE, IT WOULD BE TRULY BE POINTLESS IN THIS APPLICATION FOR US.
SO, BUT YOU'RE HAVING THE SIGNS NOT IN THE BACK WHERE THE PROPERTY DIPS? IT'S AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT'S YES MA'AM, THE ROAD HEIGHT.
BUT BUT THE ARCHITECTURE, THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WILL BE BUILT DOWN AND LOWER INTO THE, UH, PROPERTY.
THE SIGNS WILL BE SETTING UP HIGH, WHICH WE NEED.
BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE LESS VISIBLE 'CAUSE IT'LL BE SITTING LOWER INTO THE PROPERTY.
BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE, YOU ARGUED TWO WAYS.
ONE, THAT THE BUILDING WOULD BE DOWN LOW AND THAT'S WHY THE SIGN HAS TO BE HIGH.
BUT IF THE BILL, IF THE SIGN IS AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE IT'S NOT DOWN LOW, THEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AS HIGH.
I'M LOOKING WELL, LET'S NOT, IT, IT NEEDS TO BE HIGH, LIKE I SAID IN THE, FROM THE BEGINNING.
BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRADES WE HAVE UNDER IT, A 25 FOOT TALL SIGN WOULD BE POINTLESS.
WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THIS LIKE THE JIMMY JOHN'S PORTION IS SEVEN FEET TALL.
THE DIGITS FOR THE GAS ARE MORE THAN FIVE FEET TALLER THAN ME.
THIS AS A RULE OF THUMB, UHHUH, YOU CAN FIGURE THAT, UH, ONE INCH OF OF LETTER UHHUH IS GOOD FOR 10 FEET.
SO WE'RE STILL WELL UNDER WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, BUT YOU CAN FIGURE IF WE HAVE A SEVEN FOOT TALL SIGN, OR IF WE HAD A 12 INCH LADDER GENERALLY FOR VISIBILITY DURING THE DAY, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT ABOUT, UH, 12 FEET OUT OR 20 FEET OUT FOR A 10, UH, 10 FOOT OUT FOR A 10 INCH LADDER AND SO FORTH.
[01:45:01]
OKAY.WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE SCALE AND I HOPE THAT ALL OF OUR, UH, OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE LOOKED TOO AT THE FIVE FOOT, SIX SIZE PERSON STANDING NEXT TO THE BASE OF THIS THING.
THIS IS LIKE A MULTI-STORY MONSTROSITY OF A THING IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY COMMISSIONER SAID NOTICE THE SCALE PERSON NEXT TO THE, TO THE, UM, GRAPHIC COMMISSIONS.
WE, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERN WITH A HEIGHT.
AND PART OF THAT IS WE'RE NOT JUST LIKE THE SIGN WHERE YOU SEE HOME DEPOT, WHERE YOU SEE TARGET.
WE'RE INVESTING A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAKE IT A SIGN THAT WOULD BE PRESENTABLE ON THAT, THAT CORNER THERE.
SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS NOT ONLY THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS JUST NOT A PLAIN SIGN, UH, ERECTED AT THE CORNER.
UH, SO I'LL SAY THIS AS, UM, SO I LIVE RIGHT THERE, UM, RIGHT AT, SO THIS IS RIGHT AT THE LIN CREEK? YES, SIR.
UM, AND I LIVE OFF OF WHERE ENGLAND AND LAKE RIDGE MEETS.
SO I GO THAT WAY EVERY DAY TO JUMP ON 360 TO GO TO WORK.
AND BASED ON THE WAY 360 RUNS AND HOW THE HEIGHT OF 360 GOES UP AND DOWN AS IT'S COMING FROM, UM, 2 87, A SIGN OF THAT SIZE IS NEEDED.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THERE.
AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, I'M SURE YOU SEE THE SIGNAGE FOR THE VARIOUS APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND CONDOS THAT ARE THERE AS WELL.
UM, IS, IS IT AS TALL AS THE TARGET AND HOME DEPOT THAT'S FURTHER DOWN? NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT THERE.
BUT BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINESSES OF THAT MAGNITUDE, IF YOU'RE COMING AROUND THAT CORNER, CORNER, YES.
AS YOU'RE GOING AROUND 360 THERE, A SIGN THAT'S NOT VERY TALL WOULD MAKE THAT NOT VERY NOTICEABLE AT ALL.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL, NO SUBSTANTIAL NOTICE TO EXIT THAT LIN CREEK EXIT TO GET TO THAT BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
SO IF YOU DO A SMALLER SIGN, AS HE STATED BEFORE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE RELEVANT BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY SEE THAT SIGN, THEY WOULD'VE PASSED THE EXIT.
AND NOW THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN TO CAMP WISDOM, DO A U-TURN AND GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO LYNN CREEK AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT WILL SUFFICE WITH THE, WITH THE NEED AT THAT POINT.
YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD IF YOU DISAGREE.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I LIVE, I LIVE, I LIVE THERE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DO TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PETE BECAUSE I KNOW MYSELF WHEN I'M NEEDING GAS AND, AND, AND IF I, I HAVE TO KNOW BEFORE I GET OFF AND, YOU KNOW, IN CASE IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY SHAKY WHETHER I'M GONNA MAKE IT OR NOT.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF THE SIGNS.
NOW IF THERE, THERE, IF THE SI IF IT'S, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
I I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT, THAT IT IS HIGHER, BUT IT'S HIGHER FOR A REASON.
AND, UM, IT'S GONNA BE, IT, IT'S PROS AND CONS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE CLOSER YOU GET TO IT, OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE VISIBLE AND IT'S GONNA BE EASY TO BE SEEN.
BUT IF YOU'RE AT A DISTANCE AND YOU AND YOUR JOB IS TO TRY TO BRING, DRAW CUSTOMERS TO YOU, YOU KIND OF NEED TO HAVE A SIGN.
AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS, THERE ARE CONVENIENCE STORES, A LOT OF PLACES IN EVERY CITY, AND THE COMPETITION IS FIERCE.
SO OUR INVESTMENT IS HIGH ON THIS FACILITY AND WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET TO, YOU KNOW, HELP BRING TRAFFIC TO OUR, OUR CORNER.
THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS THAT WOULD, ON THE SIGNAGE WILL, IS IT GONNA BEAM ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT? IS THERE GONNA BE SOME KIND OF LIGHT THAT'S GONNA NOT GONNA AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL, IS IT? NO, MA'AM.
IT'S ALL INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED.
SO IT'LL BE JUST LIKE A QT SIGN OR RACETRACK SIGN, SOMETHING YOU SEE OF THAT NATURE.
THERE'LL BE NO, UH, DIRECT LIGHT COMING OFF THE SIGN, ILLUMINATING, UH, THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS MY DISTRICT.
SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, YOU GOTTA DO IT FOR ME.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR VCC 23 0 1 0 0 0 1 UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN AND APPROVE AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
I JUST, WE HAVE, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR MYSELF, CHERYL SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE TO APPROVE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO THAT WOULD BE SEVEN, UH, FOUR.
[01:50:03]
NEXT ITEM.[12. TAM-23-02-0002 - Text Amendment - Battery Energy Storage System. An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending Article 4: Permissible Uses and Article 30: Definitions of the Unified Development Code to add and define Battery Energy Storage Systems as an allowed accessory use and establish development standards; Repealing all Ordinances or parts of Ordinances in conflict herewith; Containing a savings clause and a severability clause; and to become effective upon its passage and approval]
ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE 30 OF THE UNITED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.AND IT IS TO, UH, DEFINE THE PROPOSED USE, WHICH IS BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. AND WE ARE DEFINING IT AS DEVICES THAT ENABLE ENERGY FROM RENEWABLES LIKE SOLAR OR WIND, OR UNUSED ENERGY SUPPLIED TO THE GRID IN TIMES OF LOW DEMAND TO BE STORED AND THEN RELEASED AT A LATER TIME.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD IT AS AN ALLOWED ACCESSORY USE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO ACQUIRE THAT IT BE SCREENED FROM VIEW FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY BY EITHER A MASONRY SCREENING WALL OR A LIVING SCREEN THAT'S AT LEAST EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT AT THE TIME OF, UH, PLANTING, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH? COMMISSIONER FEDCO? I HAVE, I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
SO IS THIS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO SOME EXISTING LANGUAGE OR IS THIS FOR A SPECIFIC APPLICANT, OR IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS? SO THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT.
UH, THIS REQUEST WAS INITIATED AFTER WE RECEIVED INQUIRIES FROM AN ANOTHER BUSINESS WHO'S WANTING TO PUT THIS IN AT THEIR LOCATION.
THIS IS FOR THE, UM, TESLA SUPERCHARGING STATIONS? NO, THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL.
JUST IN GENERAL BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ONE BRAND OR ANOTHER.
SO RASHAD, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PERSON THAT'S ASKING THE CITY TO MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THE TEXT? NO, NOT MYSELF.
UH, THEY'VE CONTACTED OUR STAFF, UM, AND WE'VE HAD O OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS AS WELL.
IT'S INDUSTRIAL USERS WHO I GUESS WANT TO BE, UM, ABLE TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION IN THE TIMES WHEN POWER IS NOT AVAILABLE.
SO, UM, AND THIS, WHENEVER WE GET THESE REQUESTS ON REPEAT, WE START LOOKING AT, UH, I ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE CITIES DOING? THEY DO THE RESEARCH AND WE COME UP WITH AMENDMENTS TO MAKE IT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT THE OBSTACLE IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, I, I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO BE THE OBSTACLE EITHER, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WHAT I, PART OF WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING AND YOU KNOW, YOU ON, IF THAT THING, IF I UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF WHAT'S PRESENTED THERE, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT COULD BE AN ACRE, ACRE AND A HALF SIZE OF DIRT THAT'S KIND OF DEPICTED THERE.
SO THAT'S LIKE 65 MEGAWATTS, THAT'S LIKE A SMALL COMBINED CYCLE PLANT.
IF, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THERE WAS A TEXT IF WE RECOMMENDED IT WITH THE TAX AMENDMENT THAT, BUT THE BEST SYSTEM COULD NOT SELL POWER INTO THE WHOLESALE POWER MARKET OF ERCOT, THAT IT WAS REALLY MEANT FOR ONSITE BATTERY STORAGE, BACKUP TO THE BUSINESS THAT IT'S SERVING.
WE CAN ADD, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I, I GET THE SENSE THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TROJAN HORSE TO ALLOW BEES IN HERE WITH, AS LONG AS WE HAVE AN ATTENUATED BUSINESS, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SET.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT COOL WITH THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF LITHIUM IN THESE BATTERIES.
A LOT OF SAFETY STUFF THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I HAVEN'T A CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT.
WE'RE JUST AMENDING THE TEXT TO WHAT IS, UH, DOABLE AND WHAT IS NOT DOABLE AS FAR AS GUIDELINES.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
CURRENTLY, THIS USE ISN'T DEFINED OR IN OUR USE CHARTS.
AND SO WE ARE DEFINING THIS USE, WE ARE ADDING IT TO THE USE CHARTS, AND THEN WE WERE ADDING THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
SO AT SOME POINT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO ADD IT ANYWAY.
YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO ADD THIS, THIS VERBIAGE, THIS, THIS, BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND THESE TYPE UH, ITEMS, YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO ADD IT IN THERE ANYWAY AS FAR AS THE, THE TEXT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
CAN YOU, AM I EXPLAINING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH.
WE'RE ADDING THIS LANGUAGE INTO THE UDC TO COVER REGULATION OF THIS TYPE OF USE, AND WE CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE, UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO, UH, REQUEST TO BE ADDED INTO THE STANDARDS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, AND THAT'LL COVER THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR, UH, SAVANNAH ON THIS? UH, COMMISSIONER FEDCO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, ENC CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM TM DASH 23 DASH OH 2 0 2 ON THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
AND, UM, VOTE TO APPROVE, PROVIDED THAT STAFF ADDS INTO THE LANGUAGE, CHANGE THAT ANY POWER FROM THE BEST
[01:55:01]
SYSTEM, UH, THAT IS, IF IT'S, IT CANNOT BE SOLD INTO THE WHOLESALE ENERGY POWER MARKET WITHOUT SUBSEQUENT, UM, I, I WANT THEM TO COME BACK TO THE CITY SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A SECOND LOOK AT THAT TO REGULATE THAT RASHAD, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VARIANCE.
WELL, THAT TO VARI VARIANCE, BUT IF, YEAH, IF IT'S GONNA BE A POWER PLANT, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT KIND OF REGULATIONS THAN IF IT'S A, UH, A BACKUP TO A, A BUSINESS.
I'D RATHER JUST STATE THAT AS A REQUIREMENT.
AND I GUESS WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, GO THROUGH TO, TO VERIFY THAT.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL APPROACH.
THEN WE CAN JUST SAY, PROVIDED THAT THE POWER FROM THE THE BEST CAN'T BE SOLD INTO THE WHOLESALE POWER MARKET.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER FEDCO FOR ITEM 12.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FEDCO FOR THAT.
[13. TAM-23-02-0003 - Text Amendment – EV Charging Stations: An Ordinance of the City of Grand Prairie, Texas, amending Article 4: Permissible Uses and Article 30: Definitions of the Unified Development Code to add and define EV Charing Station as an allowed use and establish development standards; Repealing all Ordinances or parts of Ordinances in conflict herewith; Containing a savings clause and a severability clause; and to become effective upon its passage and approval]
NEXT ITEM IS ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE 30 FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS.UH, AGAIN, THE PURPOSE IS TO DEFINE THE USE AND TO ADD IT TO OUR USE CHARTS AND THEN ALSO ADD SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO WE'RE DEFINING THIS AS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION AS A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PARKING SPACE THAT IS SERVED BY BATTERY CHARGING STATION EQUIPMENT THAT HAS ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE, THE TRANSFER OF ELECTRIC ENERGY TO A BATTERY OR OTHER ENERGY STORAGE DEVICE IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
WE'RE PRO PROPOSING TO ADD IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE IN NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO REQUIRE THAT CHARGING STATIONS MEET SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND IT SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE AND THAT THEY MUST OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THAT? UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? CAN I GET A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION.
WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, APPROVE ITEM TM DASH 23 DASH ZERO TWO DASH 0 0 0 3.
TEXT AMENDMENT EV CHARGING STATIONS WITH, UH, THE, UH, DE UH, RECOMMENDATION OF THE DRC.
UH, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM 13 BY COMMISSIONER PEREZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COCA, UH, TO APPROVE AS PER DRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
THANK YOU THERE BEING NO FURTHER CASES.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:54 PM THANK YOU.